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Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 10, 2023 6:21 pm

Article by Peter Purcell. Saves scrolling back.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 10, 2023 6:25 pm

JC, that Manhatten digs sitting area reminds me too much of the foyer of a Kuala Lumpur airport hotel. Tall is not always livable. And what on earth have they done to the ceilings up top? Those weird lights.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 10, 2023 6:26 pm

Napoleon film row as Ridley Scott likens emperor to Hitler and Stalin

Frenchman’s admirers say the comparison is unsuitable and believe director’s stance has been misguided by inept Anglo-Saxon historians
Adam Sage, Paris
Wednesday August 09 2023, 6.00pm BST, The Times
France

Sir Ridley Scott, the British film director, is facing criticism in France for comparing Napoleon Bonaparte to Hitler and Stalin while promoting his forthcoming biopic.

His film, Napoleon, which stars Joaquin Phoenix as the soldier who himself proclaimed emperor of France, is due out in November but is already stimulating debate.

Napoleon’s admirers say the comparison is inappropriate and believe that Scott has been influenced by inept Anglo-Saxon historians.

In an interview with Empire, the British film magazine, the director of Alien, Gladiator and Blade Runner said: “I compare [Napoleon] with Alexander the Great, Adolf Hitler, Stalin. Listen, he’s got a lot of bad shit under his belt. At the same time, he was remarkable with his courage, and in his can-do and in his dominance. He was extraordinary.”

Pierre Branda, academic director of the Fondation Napoléon, set up to research France’s two 19th-century empires, those of Napoleon Bonaparte and his nephew Napoleon III, expressed dismay at Scott comparing the French revolutionary to the 20th-century German and Soviet dictators. “It jars quite a lot,” he said. “While Hitler and Stalin built nothing and only wrought destruction, Napoleon built things that are still in place today.”

Branda pointed out that Sir Winston Churchill had always rejected claims that Hitler could be likened to Napoleon. “He would tell his staff, ‘I forbid you from saying that,’” said Branda.

Napoleon, a Corsican-born military commander who earned the admiration of the regime, notably for his campaign in Egypt, seized power in 1799 in the aftermath of the French Revolution. He went on to lead his Grande Armée in the conquest of much of continental Europe before suffering defeat in Russia in 1812. Three years later, Wellington’s victory at Waterloo brought an end to Napoleon’s rule and he was exiled to the south Atlantic island of Saint Helena, where he died in 1821.

Napoleon’s supporters say he was a military genius but also a great national leader. His legacy includes France’s codified civil law system, the baccalauréat — the equivalent of A-levels — the Légion d’Honneur, the country’s highest honour, and its lycées (sixth form colleges).

Detractors denounce him as a brutal dictator whose wars caused the deaths of between three million and six million people.

Rosie
Rosie
August 10, 2023 6:28 pm

I’m not sure, his brother and sisters untied the apron strings but Matthew was never going to be the next Lilian Frank.

Nelson_Kidd-Players
Nelson_Kidd-Players
August 10, 2023 6:30 pm

Unintended consequences episode xxx:

One fallout of the Lawyer X scandal is that VicPol finds it harder to gather intel. Snitches are way less interested for some reason;

3AW Breakfast: The shortage causing ‘massive problems’ for Victoria Police (04:16)

Pogria
Pogria
August 10, 2023 6:34 pm

CQ University has decreed that no one shall “disagree” with the Indigenes because “hurty feelings” and unfairness. lol!

JC
JC
August 10, 2023 6:35 pm

JC, that Manhatten digs sitting area reminds me too much of the foyer of a Kuala Lumpur airport hotel. Tall is not always livable. And what on earth have they done to the ceilings up top? Those weird lights.

It’s their most recent work. It’ not my fave either, but what’s wrong with the lights? LOL We have the same kitchen lights in our NYC pad as the kitchen pic in the link.

Here’s what I think is their best work.

John H.
John H.
August 10, 2023 6:37 pm

Pogria
Aug 10, 2023 6:34 PM
CQ University has decreed that no one shall “disagree” with the Indigenes because “hurty feelings” and unfairness. lol!

Be careful, if you create too many hurty feelings their boomerangs won’t come back.

JC
JC
August 10, 2023 6:40 pm

Sugar man is gonsky. Rodriguez passed away.

It was Australia and Sth Africa that made him famous and then he just went away. There was an interesting Netflix doco on the guy by a Sth African music producer wanting to know whatever happened to him. The producer tracked him down and sort of resurrected his career in his later years. He was working on buildings sites.

Wonder no more.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 10, 2023 6:40 pm

LOL We have the same kitchen lights in our NYC pad as the kitchen pic in the link.

Ikea?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 10, 2023 6:43 pm

Here’s what I think is their best work.

The coffered ceilings are noice.

JC
JC
August 10, 2023 6:44 pm

Ikea?

I don’t think so. They’re pretty stupid as they don’t reflect much light on the table.

Pogria
Pogria
August 10, 2023 6:45 pm

John H,
new keyboard please!

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 10, 2023 6:48 pm

Forbade them from entering Muruwari land

Armed bands of settlers militia will invade Muruwari land, and you can sign a formal surrender…

Delta A
Delta A
August 10, 2023 6:49 pm

OldOzzie
Aug 10, 2023 5:08 PM
– Better Menu – Prices have gone up a bit

Our local, along with all the other pubs in its ‘group’, is currently offering 50% off all food and drinks as long as the app/order is placed and paid for before 6.00 pm. With nine people in our family, this seemed like our kind of deal.

Result: fabulous steaks, schnitzels, fisherman’s baskets, extra salad and broccoli and top of the range drinks, all for $170.00. Unreal! SA Cats, check out the link and find, from the 17 venues listed, the one closest to you.

https://thepassapp.com.au/happiest-hour-south-australia/

Pogria
Pogria
August 10, 2023 6:52 pm

Cohenite,
I had read that earlier this evening. Made me wonder if he is related to the poor little boy who was murdered by his mother, stuffed into a suitcase and dumped in a pond at Campbelltown, to be discovered by young children playing on the bank of said pond.
The dead child was Aboriginal and his name was Dean Shillingsworth. Not a common name I would venture.

miltonf
miltonf
August 10, 2023 6:52 pm

English name, white man’s technology. Of course the left (under WEF, UN and DNC orders) are trying to bring about a south African state of affairs here.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 10, 2023 6:52 pm

The Wagner thing is still resonating.

Poland Doubles Border Guard On Fears Wagner Fighters Might ‘Infiltrate’ (10 Aug)

That’s all very headline-ish except it turns out that Russia expected Belarus to pay the Wagner guys, and Belarus expected Russia would pay them.

Furious Lukashenko ‘boots Wagner fighters out of Belarus’ in massive blow to Putin (9 Aug)

The group’s moderator said the men headed for Russia are mercenaries who rejected resignation to Lybia, where the Group has been operating for years.

The moderator said: “A source of the Cheka-OGPU said that after the meeting of PMC Wagner, everyone who did not sign up for a business trip to Libya was urgently sent on vacation to Russia.

“Right now, mercenaries in Belarus are packing their bags and going back to Russia on vacation.

Might be a loooong vacation. If I were them I would’ve chosen Libya myself. The Niger coup is the jewel box, since the coup leaders want Wagner to come help them. Whether Pute’s spooks contributed or not to the coup is immaterial – suddenly there’s a place to send Wagner guys to and keep them busy! Unfortunately per the second story the Wagner guys don’t seem to want to go to a piehole in the dark heart of Africa. Weird huh? Stay tune for more PMC fun to come…

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 10, 2023 6:53 pm

Forbade them from entering Muruwari land

Hope he never needs an ambulance…

Rosie
Rosie
August 10, 2023 6:54 pm

That was a fascinating documentary and Rodriguez an amazing talent.
I wonder how much music he didn’t write because his US career went bung.
RIP.

Dunny Brush
Dunny Brush
August 10, 2023 6:55 pm

That Kevin Rudd portrait looks like it was done by AI. A Year 12 art student who turned that in would be asked to redo: the chess board is a bit heavy handed.

calli
calli
August 10, 2023 6:56 pm

Pogria, the family came from Brewarrina, so it’s possible.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
August 10, 2023 6:59 pm

JC
Aug 10, 2023 6:40 PM
Sugar man is gonsky. Rodriguez passed away.

Cheers bloke.

Crucify Your Mind – A Beautiful Song by Sixto Rodriguez 1970 – Film Clip “Monika”

Rosie
Rosie
August 10, 2023 7:00 pm
mem
mem
August 10, 2023 7:01 pm

For those interested in past expositions of family poisonings I referenced a French movie which have now found . It was written and directed by Sacha Guitry and titled “Le Reman d’un Tricheur” 1936. “Considered Sacha Guitry’s masterpiece, this fleet, witty picaresque about a gambler and petty thief is a whimsical delight. Guitry himself stars as the tricheur looking back fondly on a life of crime, which he narrates with an effervescence matched by that of the film’s skillful editing and cinematography. With its rapid storytelling and novel use of voice-over, The Story of a Cheat has influenced filmmakers from Orson Welles to François Truffaut.”

Indolent
Indolent
August 10, 2023 7:01 pm
Pogria
Pogria
August 10, 2023 7:01 pm

Calli,
that was such a sad thing that happened. I remember it well. The foul “mother” kept collecting the extra dollars for the poor little baby until he was found.

JC
JC
August 10, 2023 7:03 pm

Human scum like Jack Smith will eventually get his comeuppance.

Special Counsel Got Search Warrant for Trump Twitter Account, Court Reveals
The social-media firm, now known as X, was held in contempt for resisting the warrant and fined $350,000

https://www.wsj.com/articles/special-counsel-got-search-warrant-for-trump-twitter-account-court-reveals-ec6b4c83?mod=us_lead_pos1

Pogria
Pogria
August 10, 2023 7:04 pm

Rosie,
thanks for the link.

Indolent
Indolent
August 10, 2023 7:05 pm
Steve trickler
Steve trickler
August 10, 2023 7:16 pm

( :

Thanks to JC for bringing up the news.

Rodriguez – I Think Of You (Film: Masculin Féminin (1966) )

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
August 10, 2023 7:23 pm

The excellent Chris Mitchell – from the Oz. A bit long but bits won’t do it justice.

It is worth considering why Andrew Barr, the chief minister of the ACT, is so cross with Walter Sofronoff.

Is it because Sofronoff breached protocol by providing his report on the Brittany Higgins-Bruce Lehrmann rape trial to journalists on an embargoed basis?

Or could it have something to do with the fact that this former judge made it impossible for Barr’s government to censor a report outlining serious misconduct at the heart of the ACT justice system?

Before receiving this report, Barr had made no secret of the fact that he was considering withholding certain sections from the public.

He issued a statement to this effect that was published in this newspaper on July 29. It said that subject to the contents of the report, and any legal implications, he intended to table all or part of the report this month.

It is worth considering why Andrew Barr, the chief minister of the ACT, is so cross with Walter Sofronoff.

Is it because Sofronoff breached protocol by providing his report on the Brittany Higgins-Bruce Lehrmann rape trial to journalists on an embargoed basis?

Or could it have something to do with the fact that this former judge made it impossible for Barr’s government to censor a report outlining serious misconduct at the heart of the ACT justice system?

Before receiving this report, Barr had made no secret of the fact that he was considering withholding certain sections from the public.

He issued a statement to this effect that was published in this newspaper on July 29. It said that subject to the contents of the report, and any legal implications, he intended to table all or part of the report this month. The key words were “or part”.
There is no way of knowing whether this is what prompted Sofronoff to provide selected journalists with his full report on an embargoed basis.

Janet Albrechtsen and Stephen Rice, who have written extensively on this affair, have not revealed where they received their advance copy of the report, but they have insisted they did not breach an embargo.

It is worth considering what might have happened but for Sofronoff, Albrechtsen and Rice.

If Barr’s plan had gone ahead, and those parts of the report with legal implications had been redacted, that would almost certainly have affected those sections that focus on Shane Drumgold, the outgoing Director of Public Prosecutions.

There is no way of knowing whether this is what prompted Sofronoff to provide selected journalists with his full report on an embargoed basis.

Janet Albrechtsen and Stephen Rice, who have written extensively on this affair, have not revealed where they received their advance copy of the report, but they have insisted they did not breach an embargo.

It is worth considering what might have happened but for Sofronoff, Albrechtsen and Rice.

If Barr’s plan had gone ahead, and those parts of the report with legal implications had been redacted, that would almost certainly have affected those sections that focus on Shane Drumgold, the outgoing Director of Public Prosecutions.

There is no way of knowing whether this is what prompted Sofronoff to provide selected journalists with his full report on an embargoed basis.

Janet Albrechtsen and Stephen Rice, who have written extensively on this affair, have not revealed where they received their advance copy of the report, but they have insisted they did not breach an embargo.

It is worth considering what might have happened but for Sofronoff, Albrechtsen and Rice.

If Barr’s plan had gone ahead, and those parts of the report with legal implications had been redacted, that would almost certainly have affected those sections that focus on Shane Drumgold, the outgoing Director of Public Prosecutions.
There is no way of knowing whether this is what prompted Sofronoff to provide selected journalists with his full report on an embargoed basis.

Janet Albrechtsen and Stephen Rice, who have written extensively on this affair, have not revealed where they received their advance copy of the report, but they have insisted they did not breach an embargo.

It is worth considering what might have happened but for Sofronoff, Albrechtsen and Rice.

If Barr’s plan had gone ahead, and those parts of the report with legal implications had been redacted, that would almost certainly have affected those sections that focus on Shane Drumgold, the outgoing Director of Public Prosecutions.

Rosie
Rosie
August 10, 2023 7:23 pm

No worries.
The msm must be dogging her every move.
mushroom masterchef had met with lawyers.

cohenite
August 10, 2023 7:25 pm

Indolent
Aug 10, 2023 7:05 PM
Senator Roberts

Humans are NOT Responsible for Increases in CO2

Of course humans are not responsible for the increase in atmospheric CO2:

https://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=14581&page=0

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
August 10, 2023 7:26 pm

Continued…………..

The nation might have been kept in the dark about the full extent of what Sofronoff described as Drumgold’s malpractice and grossly unethical conduct during the Higgins-Lehrmann trial.

It is understandable that Barr might feel aggrieved. He was considering censoring Sofronoff’s report and Sofronoff, Albrechtsen and Rice made that impossible.

But Barr was wrong to accuse Sofronoff, an immensely experienced former judge, of breaking the law by giving the report to the media.

Barr made that accusation at an emotional press conference on August 7 during which he departed from the measured approach of his formal joint statement with Attorney-General Shane Rattenbury.

When asked if Sofronoff’s actions amounted to a breach of the Inquiries Act, Barr said he was seeking advice on whether there had been a breach and if further action was required.

That’s when he should have stopped talking. Instead, he added: “A reasonably
straight reading of section 17 of the Act would clearly indicate that it is. The question of whether there are any mitigating circumstances remains to be seen.”

This assessment is hard to reconcile with the plain words of the statute. It also seems odd when compared to what Barr said in his formal statement with Rattenbury.

The formal statement recognises that the Inquiries Act might need to be changed in order to ensure the release of future reports must be approved by the government.

Just consider that for a moment. If the statute needs to be changed to achieve that purpose, that means the current wording of the statute does not achieve that purpose.

And that means Sofronoff is off the hook.

This is what Barr and Rattenbury said in their formal statement: “The government will also consider changes to the Inquiries Act to strengthen provisions relating to the obligation of nondisclosure of information in section 17 prior to the formal release of an inquiry report.

“The intent of any changes will be to provide the ACT government and the Canberra community with assurance that the unapproved release that occurred on this occasion will not occur for any inquiry that may be commissioned in the future,” their statement said.

The problem for Barr is that section 17 was clearly designed to prevent the unauthorised disclosure of information “acquired by” boards of inquiry, such as documents obtained under subpoena.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 10, 2023 7:26 pm
Roger
Roger
August 10, 2023 7:26 pm

Ah…I see Cats are already onto the Shillingsworth chap forbidding police to use a public road because it is “aboriginal land.”

Yet another own goal for the Yes case.

And the stuff of Albanese’s bad dreams for the rest of his days.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
August 10, 2023 7:27 pm

Continued again…………..

It was not designed to impose penalties for the unauthorised disclosure of an inquiry’s report.

There is no mention in section 17 of reports produced by a board of inquiry.

If the Inquiries Act was intended to impose penalties for the unauthorised disclosure of reports it would not have done so in section 17 which seeks to prevent disclosure of documents and other information received by an inquiry.

Such a penalty would be found in the provision that deals with the question of what happens to completed reports.

That provision, section 14, says reports must be submitted to the chief minister. It does not say they must only be submitted to the chief minister.

That might explain why Barr’s careful joint statement with Rattenbury flagged the need for legislative change.

Sofronoff did not break the law when he provided embargoed copies of his report to the media. He broke protocol and angered the chief minister of the ACT.

But that seems a small price to pay compared to what was at stake. Barr had made it clear he was considering redacting this report, even before he received it.

That meant there was a real risk that the full extent of Drumgold’s misconduct might have remained hidden.

Sofronoff might one day choose to explain his motivations. But the practical impact speaks for itself.

He exposed the full extent of a sickness at the very heart of the ACT’s justice system, free from political spin or the redactions he knew were being considered.

Barr did himself no favours by rashly suggesting that this respected former judge from a more significant jurisdiction had broken the law.

Sofronoff did no such thing.

Chris Merritt is vice-president of the Rule of Law Institute of Australia

Indolent
Indolent
August 10, 2023 7:29 pm
Barking Toad
Barking Toad
August 10, 2023 7:30 pm

The bottom line is that the poo dented Barr is talking out of his expanded arsehole.

Sofronoff would publicly excoriate him.

Rosie
Rosie
August 10, 2023 7:30 pm

No doubt the ACT will rush through legislation to keep board of enquiry reports secret from the Canberra community, for the sake of the Canberra community.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 10, 2023 7:30 pm

JC

Aug 10, 2023 6:44 PM

Ikea?

I don’t think so. They’re pretty stupid as they don’t reflect much light on the table.

That is deliberate.
Makes it harder to see the mushrooms when the time comes.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 10, 2023 7:36 pm

When asked if Sofronoff’s actions amounted to a breach of the Inquiries Act, Barr said he was seeking advice on whether there had been a breach and if further action was required.

That’s when he should have stopped talking. Instead, he added: “A reasonably
straight reading of section 17 of the Act would clearly indicate that it is. The question of whether there are any mitigating circumstances remains to be seen.”

Mayor Barr (for a mere mayor he is) seems to be just about completely painted in.

As if a silk of Sofronoff KC’s stature would be intimidated by the equivalent of the Dubbo Shire President claiming he broke the law.

Dot
Dot
August 10, 2023 7:38 pm

I know someone else probably posted this before but I can’t fathom the level of gall here in this article.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-10/voice-conspiracy-theory/102709262

“The statement from the heart is literally only 1 A4 page I tells yas, comrades!”

vr
vr
August 10, 2023 7:40 pm

Indolent: No need to get D’Souza’s take. Here is the David Garrow interview in Tablet Magazine that has gotten all the attention in the last week.

H B Bear
H B Bear
August 10, 2023 7:44 pm

Eddie Jones not going to die wondering at the next rugby World Cup. So much money in professional sport they practically have to be crowbarred out.

Dot
Dot
August 10, 2023 7:45 pm

According to most western media, to say there is a vast global network of pedophiles and perverts who traffic children is akin to believing in some Q-minded conspiracy. Apparently, with headlines that appeared on AOL News today, the conspiracy is not a theory.

Yes it is a stupid conspiracy theory because these are run of the mill criminals and these sorts of criminal enterprises get broken up from time to time – they go to gaol and stay there for a long time most of the time.

Not a single arrest was made regarding child trafficking, is that correct?

The Australian agency said the coordinated probe was formally launched in 2022 after the FBI provided the Australian Centre to Counter Child Exploitation with intelligence about Australian individuals suspected of being part of a “peer-to-peer network allegedly sharing child abuse material on the dark web.”

Not. One. Child. Trafficking. Arrest.

Followed up with idiocy like “Pizzagate was real!”, 7 years after the fact.

Which would mean the FBI lionised in the story above are also covering up the child sex ring they broke up.

The “children rescued” were rescued from their homes you twit.

Read some of the shit you post here beforehand and show some discernment.

Indolent
Indolent
August 10, 2023 7:46 pm
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 10, 2023 7:51 pm

Those kitchen lights are actually quite nice, JC, simple globular whites. I wasn’t referring to those but to the mess in the ceiling of that atrium-like space.

As to your fave Manhattan apartment, JC, yes, that is a lovely home, and I wouldn’t mind living in it. A little over-white perhaps, which is something people are now seeking relief from. Our place is white to the north, and the hallways and back rooms are a gentle grey. Our bedroom is white and we are just pushing the boat out now with some bed-backing wallpaper from Swedish Marimekko. We might decide we hate it, but we just felt like a change. It’s on order now. The rest of the room stays white as there is our best harbour view from our bed, and we want the focus to be on that.

Erk, I just made myself a gin and tonic and it tasted foul. Looked at the makings and found I’d used gin and soda water. Didn’t you see the label ? says Hairy. I thought I did, I said. Can’t you read? he asks. Only sometimes it seems, I answer. My mind was on New York apartments. lol.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 10, 2023 7:54 pm

Read some of the shit you post here beforehand and show some discernment.

Were there any Disney execs involved, laughing as they were handcuffed and chortling ‘You fools!’?

Any mention of the sites being satire-based?

Oh well. There’s a bit of the ‘oh but I’m only providing information, you make up your own mind’ about this sort of thing. Annie and srrsrs were going for gold, seven days a week in this field of endeavour.

‘Army tanks* on the streets!’

*Landrovers with ‘Driver Under Instruction’ signs on them.

Good times.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 10, 2023 7:55 pm

“The statement from the heart is literally only 1 A4 page I tells yas, comrades!”

That’s the Executive Summary, often used to blindside the CEO about the real intent.

As Jim Hacker discovered, look deeper into the Red Box and find the buried stuff.

Dot
Dot
August 10, 2023 7:57 pm

individuals suspected of being part of a “peer-to-peer network allegedly sharing child abuse material on the dark web

As opposed to Drop Box or on private groups on social media?

H B Bear
H B Bear
August 10, 2023 8:04 pm

*Landrovers with ‘Driver Under Instruction’ signs on them

We get a few of them around here. I better go and do some research.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 10, 2023 8:06 pm

As if a silk of Sofronoff KC’s stature would be intimidated by the equivalent of the Dubbo Shire President claiming he broke the law.

If Sofronoff could be bothered, I have no doubt he could sue Councillor Barr for defamation.
I don’t know if there is such a thing as Council Chamber Privilege, but no matter.
Barr made a comment in public, outside the rat-infested chamber he leads, that an experienced judge had deliberately broken the law.
Which he clearly had not, and Barr knew it.
Thin ice.

Dot
Dot
August 10, 2023 8:19 pm

Is the P8 that flew from Canberra to Adelaide today a normal sort of thing?

A mate of mine sent me the flight data and it was doing a lot of work at 200ft in St Vincent’s Gulf.

Was it looking for something? Flight training?

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 10, 2023 8:19 pm

For those who haven’t seen it, here’s John Anderson speaking to James Morrow about the Voice. Anderson is an old-school conservative who would like some sort of Constitutional recognition. I think it is too late for that now. There has been far too much activism in the past fifteen years and there is now too much fear of High Court activism with regard to the Voice. If it gets up I’m with Anderson though in believing it will only making things worse for remote aboriginal Australians, as there will be so much palpable anger and division, such as we have seen with the reaction of Western Australian farmers, who rose up against a mere legislative activity that threatened them on aboriginal matters. If a Voice that is not able to removed gets up, imagine the level of anger that would induce.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 10, 2023 8:19 pm

Oh well. There’s a bit of the ‘oh but I’m only providing information, you make up your own mind’ about this sort of thing. Annie and srrsrs were going for gold, seven days a week in this field of endeavour.

Let’s not forget that immortal phrase, “Well, what was I supposed to think?”

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 10, 2023 8:20 pm

OK, gin and linking don’t go together. Here’s the link.

Morsie
Morsie
August 10, 2023 8:21 pm

Chris Merrit not Chris Mit he’ll on the Sofronoff report

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 10, 2023 8:24 pm

Do you know, I’m not missing the uptick feature. I thought at first I would, but I am getting used to its absence now. It makes me feel freer to comment without risking a pile on, but that’s just me. If you really want to agree you can add a comment saying so, and others can see that. I know it misses out on the huge approvals that some comments quite rightly garner, but the need for all to have some level of upticks has been a bit of a nuisance on the blog. Just my view, and opinions may differ. I’ll still come here, upticks restored or not. There is some value in them and I understand why people miss them.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 10, 2023 8:27 pm

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

Aug 10, 2023 8:24 PM

Do you know, I’m not missing the uptick feature.

I am.
It’s an integral part of quality blogging.
Essential.

Gabor
Gabor
August 10, 2023 8:33 pm

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

Aug 10, 2023 8:24 PM

Do you know, I’m not missing the uptick feature.

I suppose you wouldn’t, but it has its uses and most of us miss it.
Not everyone is verbose, letting a poster know we appreciate the contribution with one click is great.
Downtick would also be useful in many instances.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 10, 2023 8:35 pm

No duff, fallen angel

A beautiful heartfelt speech, even though most of our parliamentarians couldn’t bother turning up to hear it. Well done, Member for Menzies. You’d make Menzies proud.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 10, 2023 8:38 pm

I suppose you wouldn’t

haw, haw, haw, Gabor. It’s clear where you stand, upticker. It’s good to see you come out of the woodwork.

I am literate, and interested in the written form, not necessarily verbose. But opinions may differ.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
August 10, 2023 8:39 pm

The Australian Constitution is about thirty pages.
Some bright spark might like to take it along to the next Fair And Balanced Panel Discussion.

H B Bear
H B Bear
August 10, 2023 8:40 pm

No upticks. No read.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
August 10, 2023 8:41 pm

A good point about uplinks was during stoushes people could show support for one side over the other.

Indolent
Indolent
August 10, 2023 8:41 pm
Cassie of Sydney
August 10, 2023 8:43 pm

I miss the upticks, Lizzie.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 10, 2023 8:47 pm

Old joke:

‘I was married for 84 years. I have to count them in dog years because my wife was a bitch.’

Uptick me!

Gabor
Gabor
August 10, 2023 8:49 pm

I am literate, and interested in the written form, not necessarily verbose. But opinions may differ.

My apologies, I should have said, garrulous.

Not coming out of any woodwork, I read what I consider worthy, and scroll the rest, I’m sure a lot of others do the same.

Top Ender
Top Ender
August 10, 2023 8:50 pm

Just been to see the leaning tower in Pisa. Amazing how a dodgy builder’s work has been commemorated for hundreds of years.

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 10, 2023 8:54 pm

Dot
Aug 10, 2023 8:19 PM
Is the P8 that flew from Canberra to Adelaide today a normal sort of thing?

A mate of mine sent me the flight data and it was doing a lot of work at 200ft in St Vincent’s Gulf.

Was it looking for something? Flight training?

The P-3s that they replaced were based at RAAF Edinburgh, near Adelaide. Returning home, doing a bit of low level training on the way?

miltonf
miltonf
August 10, 2023 8:55 pm

Dickless upticks thank you very much

caveman
caveman
August 10, 2023 8:56 pm

Yeah, upticks are the gold standard , bring them back.

Vote N0.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 10, 2023 8:59 pm

I’m reading an account of D-Day, June 6th 1944.

Omaha beach – there are thirty pairs of brothers, buried in the American cemetery above that beach.

One soldier, a Swede had managed to reach the United States, in 1942, where he volunteered to serve in the US Army. Aged eighteen, he was awarded a Distinguished Service Cross for his part in the costliest small unit action-in the history of the United States Army.

After the war, he was deported from the United States, because his immigration papers were not in order…..

calli
calli
August 10, 2023 8:59 pm

TE, did you visit the Baptistery also? It is lovely inside and the acoustics are superb. Also the cloister.

The horrible thing about Pisa is running the gauntlet of all the street vendors on the path, and also all the dumb clucks trying to take “hold up” photos. Doin’ it for the ‘Gram.

calli
calli
August 10, 2023 9:01 pm

I don’t like downticks. If someone disagrees, come forth and argue. A downtick is the lazy person’s Nah, Nah. It’s meaningless.

calli
calli
August 10, 2023 9:04 pm

Dickless upticks are sans serif. I prefer my typefaces with wings.

Rosie
Rosie
August 10, 2023 9:04 pm

Gaborone just wants down ticks so that people can know how much they are disliked.
Isn’t that right Gabor?
I

Rosie
Rosie
August 10, 2023 9:05 pm

Oh and we definitely need people to comment less because that would be proof that the forum is something something.
More lurkers!
Less comments!

Cassie of Sydney
August 10, 2023 9:06 pm

Don’t like downticks, but like upticks.

Gabor
Gabor
August 10, 2023 9:06 pm

I don’t like downticks. If someone disagrees, come forth and argue. A downtick is the lazy person’s Nah, Nah. It’s meaningless.

Fine, but in this case so are the upsticks, lets not have either of them.

Dot
Dot
August 10, 2023 9:07 pm

The P-3s that they replaced were based at RAAF Edinburgh, near Adelaide. Returning home, doing a bit of low level training on the way?

I’m impressed with a big plane flying around at an altitude of 200 ft. That’s serious military flying with not much room for error.

Maybe they found where Harold Holt’s sub had imploded?

Damon
Damon
August 10, 2023 9:09 pm

Whether the Voice succeeds or fails, it introduced racism into Australian life in a way previously unimaginable.

Zatara
Zatara
August 10, 2023 9:09 pm

First stage of Chinese rocket crashes in Chinese city

Locals in the city of Shangluo, population over two million and located in central China, today released video images of the remains of the first stage of a Long March 2C rocket that launched yesterday and apparently crashed in the city.

Miraculously, no deaths or injuries were reported.

Rosie
Rosie
August 10, 2023 9:14 pm

The Pisa complex on a bright sunny winter’s day is a thing of glory, and Pisa would be worth visiting even if the tower didn’t lean.
The brilliant blue sky, the gleaming white Church and Tower, the emerald green grass.
All the wow factor we expected.
I think we approached the tower via a back street, didn’t matter.
Bonus of being there in early January, crowds not so bad, I didnt climb, terrified of heights, but my travelling companion didn’t have to queue, and I don’t even remember vendors.
We stayed in gorgeous Lucca inside the walls, Pisa just iirc a half an hour by train.

calli
calli
August 10, 2023 9:17 pm

An uptick means agreement. You don’t need to add anything if the comment stands alone. Something insightful or pithy or fun or positive is always worthy, hopefully it’s about the comment, not the person who makes it.

Another commenter might like to clarify or add other examples. Then an uptick isn’t enough.

Downticks are just lazy blech. They add nothing to a discussion, in fact they may even suppress it.

All up to Dover. It’s his blog, his rules.

calli
calli
August 10, 2023 9:22 pm

I was there in summer, rosie. And would you believe it, the second time was Sunday and we missed the church as a service was in progress.

So we went into the Baptistry instead. And we were sung to by a young lady with an angel’s voice. No words, just notes bouncing and swirling around the dome and back to us. It was remarkable and more than made up for missing out.

Then it started to rain and all the vendors instantly whipped out ponchos and umbrellas!

Gabor
Gabor
August 10, 2023 9:24 pm

An uptick means agreement.

A downtick means disagreement, not everyone wants to get into an argument about every opinion.

As I said before I don’t care much either way, but if one is in so should be the other.

Other than that, I’m sorry I offered my opinion, downtick me or offer -1000.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 10, 2023 9:26 pm

Whether the Voice succeeds or fails, it introduced racism into Australian life in a way previously unimaginable.

It’s also shown that “reconciliation” is very much a “one way” street. One side goes on making all the concessions, while the other had their hands out, demanding more.

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 10, 2023 9:28 pm

Dot
Aug 10, 2023 9:07 PM
The P-3s that they replaced were based at RAAF Edinburgh, near Adelaide. Returning home, doing a bit of low level training on the way?

I’m impressed with a big plane flying around at an altitude of 200 ft. That’s serious military flying with not much room for error.

Sometimes, in the words of Tony Abbott, “Shit happens” during difficult training. Recall the RAAF 707 that went into the water off Gippsland back in the early 1990s. The idea of training is to minimise the possibility of errors. Also, skills fade, training keeps them active.

Rosie
Rosie
August 10, 2023 9:28 pm

Whipping out the ponchos and umbrellas is classic Italy.
I watched them appear and disappear in Naples several times this year.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 10, 2023 9:35 pm

Recall the RAAF 707 that went into the water off Gippsland back in the early 1990s.

Ronnie RAAF lost, from memory, 6 F-111’s during that aircraft’s time in service. It was a secret for some years, but they had counted on losing six aircraft in the first three years of service…

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
August 10, 2023 9:36 pm

More on the ACT town council (sorry, government):

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-10/act-integrity-commission-hears-of-alleged-union-approach/102713224

Corruption involving the hard left and the CFMEU? Unthinkable!

The minister, Yvette Berry, is even harder to the left than Barr with his soft spot for property developers. Berry’s faction, sources tell me, has the numbers to replace Barr but can’t do it because they know Yvette is not up to the job. She is where she is because, in an echo of North Korea’s communist monarchy, she is the daughter of a hard left heavyweight. If she had to rely on her own abilities, she might just about make passable security attendant.

calli
calli
August 10, 2023 9:39 pm

It was not my intention to upset you Gabor.

MatrixTransform
August 10, 2023 9:42 pm

talk shit and get upticks from your cartel-friends –> talking more shit
talk shit and get upticks from your cartel-friends AND down-ticks from everybody that thinks yr a wanker –> talking less shit

Lizzie was right in a backwards way about upticks being weaponized.
without a down-tick mechanism, people simply express disapproval by up-ticking posts critical of their poor form

the wankers of course, claim that the up-ticks in disapproval are false, or manufactured
which is of course bull-shit except in isolated circumstances where somebody goes out of their way to use a promiscuous VPN

unleash the down-tick and find out.

works well at Jo Nova’s

cohenite
August 10, 2023 9:47 pm

Another pea in the maze of why I think Trump will either be in jail or dead before he can win another POTUS. The Jan 6 committee, a festering tribe of scum, only published a tiny, manipulated amount of the material it had collected. This shit was anti-Trump and was confected. The vast amount of material it had, depositions, video etc not only exonerated Trump and the protestors but incriminated the various agencies and the demorats in a typical swamp conspiracy.

When Trump goes to trial on the latest bullshit indictment about interfering with the election result he would have been able to subpoena all that hidden material. But now he can’t because the flogs on the committee in an unparalleled and criminal action have destroyed that material.

Top Ender
Top Ender
August 10, 2023 9:47 pm

Yes, saw the Baptistry, Calli.

The vendors are now confined to a neat row of only about six some distance from all three buildings. Mind you, outside the square there were a lot more.

cohenite
August 10, 2023 9:55 pm

Seriously, biden and any one who is part of his admin and family should be strung up. Apparently the phones of the 13 troops he caused to be killed when he left Afghanistan have been confiscated by his admin because they have incriminating evidence about his failure to stop the attack which killed the 13. This is despite their families demanding them back.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
August 10, 2023 10:01 pm

Yvette Berry. Waste of space like her old man.

Butcher at Kippax shops – in her electorate – has a sandwich board outside his shop entrance saying she’s not welcome there.

Even vegans stick their head in the door to say onya.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 10, 2023 10:03 pm

Sometimes, in the words of Tony Abbott, “Shit happens” during difficult training. Recall the RAAF 707 that went into the water off Gippsland back in the early 1990s. The idea of training is to minimise the possibility of errors. Also, skills fade, training keeps them active.

Well, some training.
From Wiki:-

Lewin briefed the next exercise, which would involve flying the aircraft at the minimum controllable airspeed (VMCA) with both engines on the left wing at idle thrust and without hydraulic assistance available to operate the flight controls. In this condition, aerodynamic loads on the rudder limited its travel to half of the normal deflection and required a very significant amount of force to be exerted on the rudder pedals by the pilot for a prolonged period to maintain control

Double assymetric in a swept wing aircraft at a smidge above stall with hydraulic fail for good measure.
From memory they also had more altitude above them than below, limiting spin recovery opportunities.
I think the investigation concluded that the combination of failures being practiced were so unlikely to occur in reality, and the risks involved in training for them so great, that it should not have been a live training exercise.
Do it in the sim, chaps.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 10, 2023 10:07 pm

oops

shit me dacks

muss be a god oracle in da house

John H.
John H.
August 10, 2023 10:10 pm

Dot
Aug 10, 2023 9:07 PM
The P-3s that they replaced were based at RAAF Edinburgh, near Adelaide. Returning home, doing a bit of low level training on the way?

I’m impressed with a big plane flying around at an altitude of 200 ft. That’s serious military flying with not much room for error.

Maybe they found where Harold Holt’s sub had imploded?

Searching for more Yes votes.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 10, 2023 10:13 pm

Rosie

Aug 10, 2023 9:28 PM

Whipping out the ponchos and umbrellas is classic Italy.

My favourite sport in these tourist spots goes like this.
In the bright sunshine when they are selling sunglasses, ask them if they’ve got an umbrella.
When it’s pissing down and they are back with ponchos and umbrellas, ask to see their collection of sunnies.
Drives them nuts.

John H.
John H.
August 10, 2023 10:14 pm

Gabor
Aug 10, 2023 9:24 PM
An uptick means agreement.

People should only be able to uptick when they cannot see how many upticks the comment has received. That reduces groupthink. Thus Spake Hossenfelder.

Top Ender
Top Ender
August 10, 2023 10:15 pm
John H.
John H.
August 10, 2023 10:19 pm

Sancho Panzer
Aug 10, 2023 10:03 PM
Sometimes, in the words of Tony Abbott, “Shit happens” during difficult training. Recall the RAAF 707 that went into the water off Gippsland back in the early 1990s. The idea of training is to minimise the possibility of errors. Also, skills fade, training keeps them active.

A USAF general stated that he can tell when a fighter pilot has not been keeping up his flying hours if only one month is missed. It reminded me of what Karajan said: if I don’t practice for one day I can tell the difference, if I don’t practice for 2 days my audience can tell the difference. I think he was being hyperbolic but it is true that to stay at the height of performance requires continuous training at maximal levels.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 10, 2023 10:24 pm

I think that might be a tad mischievous TE!
But there is this little snippet at the link:-

Daily Mail Australia understands Ms Patterson’s owns several properties, investing wisely after inheriting money she received from the death of her parents in 2019.

Did someone say munni?
Apparently she wanted a reconciliation, but was perhaps realising that she was not only losing her marriage, but also half of her parent’s hard-earned as well.

Dot
Dot
August 10, 2023 10:24 pm

Searching for more Yes votes.

Oooh!

Albanese has until 12 AM Tuesday morning to declare the date (14/10 apparently) or it will likely be “pocket vetoed” or we could be voting for it in the new year.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
August 10, 2023 10:28 pm
Barking Toad
Barking Toad
August 10, 2023 10:31 pm

Why the flying duck didn’t Erin invite Sleazy for dinner?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 10, 2023 10:31 pm

John H.
Yes, practice is important.
But the findings out of the 707 prang were that the risks involved in that scenario were far too great for something that was highly improbable to ever occur in reality.
And, in any case, the simulator is the place to practice these extreme events.

Gabor
Gabor
August 10, 2023 10:32 pm

John H. Avatar
John H.
Aug 10, 2023 10:14 PM

Gabor
Aug 10, 2023 9:24 PM
An uptick means agreement.

People should only be able to uptick when they cannot see how many upticks the comment has received. That reduces groupthink. Thus Spake Hossenfelder.

Maybe, but I don’t know how you can implement that.
Better method would be like FB, where the list of people clicking on like is displayed.

I’m in a private FB group of bakers and pastry chefs and you can tell at a glance how many supporters or naysayers there are. Because the group is small you can also see the names and surprisingly it is not personal but relates to the substance of the post.

Not sure about the Cat, here it does get rather personal at times and facts and substance are ignored.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 10, 2023 10:33 pm

Daily Mail Australia understands Ms Patterson’s owns several properties, investing wisely after inheriting money she received from the death of her parents in 2019.

It would be something of a coincidence if they succumbed to Beef Wellington too.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
August 10, 2023 10:34 pm
Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 10, 2023 10:36 pm

We should be able to see which upticks are valid and which upticks are dickless.

NFA
NFA
August 10, 2023 10:52 pm

Sancho Panzer
Aug 10, 2023 10:36 PM

We should be able to see which upticks are valid and which upticks are dickless.

Really!

cohenite
August 10, 2023 10:56 pm

Steve trickler
Aug 10, 2023 10:28 PM
Mark Dice:

BIack Teacher Gets What She Deserves After…

Good news. I can see a market for that in this shithole.

Louis Litt
Louis Litt
August 10, 2023 10:56 pm

Coenhite 10/8 @ 7:25

You sure are smart.

NFA
NFA
August 10, 2023 11:03 pm

Steve trickler
Aug 10, 2023 10:28 PM

Mark Dice:

BIack Teacher Gets What She Deserves After…

That is as sad as Steve t to have those thoughts as a black person.

cohenite
August 10, 2023 11:08 pm

Louis Litt
Aug 10, 2023 10:56 PM
Coenhite 10/8 @ 7:25

You sure are smart.

Twice as smart:

https://australianclimatesceptics.com/?p=1

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
August 10, 2023 11:09 pm

It puts a smile on my face.

Crocodile Dundee ENDING

NFA
NFA
August 10, 2023 11:12 pm

Hey sancho,

You wouldn’t be trying to dox people would you?

Indolent
Indolent
August 10, 2023 11:12 pm
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 10, 2023 11:13 pm

I miss the upticks, Lizzie.

I know, and that’s one reason why I hope they come back. They do have a place, in acclaim and agreement and in creating a convivial atmosphere of shared enjoyment and boosting the political spirits when the glass seems definitely half-empty. I haven’t felt well served by them but I’m capable of handling that, garrulous gal that I am and all. I’ve even missed them myself when I’ve felt like applauding something said and don’t want to do more than that.

But it is up to Dover. I guess he’s trialling the site without them. Or maybe it’s a technical issue after all and they’ll be back, as Sir Humphrey says, in the fullness of time.

Louis Litt
Louis Litt
August 10, 2023 11:15 pm

Cohenite 10:56 10/8
Thank you.
Articles like that thread the missing links for me. I understand the science better.
BTW – that’s impressive for a lawyer to understand the science so well.

MatrixTransform
August 10, 2023 11:18 pm

let the down-tick puppy off the leash

Black Ball
Black Ball
August 10, 2023 11:19 pm

Albanese has until 12 AM Tuesday morning to declare the date (14/10 apparently) or it will likely be “pocket vetoed” or we could be voting for it in the new year.

It all depends on the wet season up norf I’m led to believe. From his own mouf. Needs as many votes as possible from black fellas up there, which might be a stretch.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 10, 2023 11:19 pm

I wonder if I would like being able to have a screen saying who had upticked what. Just the handles would be all you’d see.

It would be an interesting insight into who thinks what around here. And would pick out the fake upticks too. But something in that rather repels me and my libertarian sentiments, it sounds a bit like checking up on people. Rather like the boss discussed on The Sky Late Show tonight who checked up on his employee by counting the keystrokes they made while ‘working at home’. All just a bit to intrusive. Let upticks live and die in freedom!

Black Ball
Black Ball
August 10, 2023 11:23 pm

If there must be upticks, so must there be downticks.
Or as Facebook has, emoticons to capture the feeling of a comment.
Personally, I have no fornication to give. DoverLord shall run this place as he/she* sees fit.

*Indeterminate sex

NFA
NFA
August 10, 2023 11:24 pm

Steve trickler Avatar
Steve trickler
Aug 10, 2023 11:09 PM

It puts a smile on my face.

Crocodile Dundee ENDING

Love it Steve t

I did meet and make a documentary on River Red Gum forests with Gus Mercurio from the second movie

MatrixTransform
August 10, 2023 11:27 pm

shit me dacks

infantile gibber R Catallaxy

if there’s one thing that defines what this joint has become, it is this

and there is no mechanism to to dissuade tossers from tossing

Indolent
Indolent
August 10, 2023 11:29 pm

Will the Biden Administration Ban Cigars?
While drug runners cross the border with an addictive and dangerous arsenal.

What is it with the Left that they want to ban nearly everything that is fun or convenient? Gas stoves, dishwashers, plastic straws, gas cars, snowmobiles and diving boards. And now the health busybodies want to ban certain cigars.

They just want to micromanage your life. That’s all.

Indolent
Indolent
August 10, 2023 11:33 pm
NFA
NFA
August 10, 2023 11:34 pm

Steve t

Gus Mercurio was a great supporter for the High Country Cattlemen as well.

NFA
NFA
August 10, 2023 11:38 pm
Dot
Dot
August 10, 2023 11:40 pm

let the down-tick puppy off the leash

Do it. Do it. Do it!

Do it, do it now Anakin!

I double dog dare ya!

I ferkan derya!

2024 goal: 100,000 downticks for Dot and his squad.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 10, 2023 11:41 pm

I’m really enjoying Liz Storer on Sky’s The Late Show. She’s very bright with a huge sense of fun and dives right in on most issues, nearly always getting it right. And I’m noting how Caleb has sparked up too under her influence; he has to do so to keep up. I’m finding I quite enjoy his faux outrages now because his face is much more animated that it used to be. Thus perceptions can change as people present the different sides to their characters as they loosen up over time and in different places over the full gamut of issues. I think that happens here on this blog too.

NFA
NFA
August 10, 2023 11:45 pm

Dot Avatar
Dot
Aug 10, 2023 11:40 PM

Are you on a bit of a ‘downer’ Dot?

JC
JC
August 10, 2023 11:52 pm
NFA
NFA
August 10, 2023 11:56 pm
JC
JC
August 11, 2023 12:01 am

I wonder what his undies will sell for?

The Steve Jobs-owned Birkenstocks that sold at auction last November looked like they’d been run over by a semitruck full of iPhones. Worn by the Apple impresario throughout the 1970s and ’80s, the straps on the brown suede sandals were saggy and stretched, the leather insoles were curling at the edges like burned paper and the footbed was about as black as a well-done steak.

And yet, the pulverized shoes hammered out for a staggering $218,000—a reflection of Jobs’s lofty status as a pop-cultural icon almost a decade after his death.

WSJ

Alamak!
August 11, 2023 12:02 am

We should be able to see which upticks are valid and which upticks are dickless.

emoticons would be way more fun, if a little confusing.

OTOH, perhaps we could buy ticks from Dover.

NFA
NFA
August 11, 2023 12:10 am

Joe Biden ABSOLUTELY benefited from Hunter’s foreign business

Buy ‘ticks’ – that’s how you do it.

Ticks for free.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
August 11, 2023 12:14 am

Interesting comment from Keith Pitt
https://www.skynews.com.au/opinion/chris-kenny/extraordinary-set-of-circumstances-labor-scraps-nuclear-waste-dump-plan/video/ab2d9296bea9f5eae6ce3aaca4fcbf90

He is not aware of a single defence force base anywhere in the country that does NOT have native title across it.

Black Ball
Black Ball
August 11, 2023 2:49 am

Gawd almighty I love this place.

Rosie
Rosie
August 11, 2023 3:01 am
Rosie
Rosie
August 11, 2023 3:06 am

Following the news Mr Drumgold had resigned, ACT Supreme Court Justice Lucy McCallum issued a statement accepting that public scrutiny is “welcome and necessary” but warned that this could come with a “personal toll on the practitioners concerned”.

Would that be a bit like the personal toll on accused persons subject to unethical or illegal treatment by practitioners?

Rosie
Rosie
August 11, 2023 3:20 am

Exactly

The culture of a workplace reflects the values of those in charge. The Inquiry uncovered multiple instances of conduct by the DPP that were out of step with procedural and advocacy norms. They can be characterised as “grave mistakes”. Given that he held his position for some years there are justified concerns as to an ingrained adverse effect upon a desirable culture within the prosecutions office.

Rosie
Rosie
August 11, 2023 3:39 am

And no ODPP should be getting political pressure to increase conviction rates of sexual or any other offences, that’s an open invitation to ‘grave mistakes ‘.

Tom
Tom
August 11, 2023 4:00 am
Tom
Tom
August 11, 2023 4:01 am
Tom
Tom
August 11, 2023 4:02 am
Tom
Tom
August 11, 2023 4:03 am
Tom
Tom
August 11, 2023 4:04 am
Tom
Tom
August 11, 2023 4:05 am
Tom
Tom
August 11, 2023 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
August 11, 2023 4:07 am

Gary Varvel. Brilliant.

Tom
Tom
August 11, 2023 4:09 am
Tom
Tom
August 11, 2023 4:10 am
Tom
Tom
August 11, 2023 4:11 am
Tom
Tom
August 11, 2023 4:12 am
Tom
Tom
August 11, 2023 4:13 am
DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
August 11, 2023 4:21 am

Thanx Tom.

Johnny Rotten
August 11, 2023 4:32 am

Yes and brilliant from Gary Varvel. And from Leak.

Johnny Rotten
August 11, 2023 4:56 am

The CBA may be getting a lot of grief over their 10 billion dollar profit. However, the Market Cap of the CBA is 175 billion dollars. So that profit represents an investment return of just under 6%.

Big Deal people.

Razey
Razey
August 11, 2023 6:19 am

I get 5.5% risk free in the bank. Stocks are not worth it if they aren’t making well over this.

JC
JC
August 11, 2023 6:23 am
JC
JC
August 11, 2023 6:31 am
Razey
Razey
August 11, 2023 6:34 am

Dim Jim getting ratioed.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 11, 2023 6:44 am

The Ecuadoreans appear to be shit hot at politics.

Extremely popular candidate running on an anti-government corruption platform is shot and killed leaving one of his own heavily-attended rallies.

The incumbent president of the joint then declares three days of mourning – and two months’ worth of State of Emergency, coinciding with the actual election.

Amazing. As Tony Soprano would have said – ‘The balls on this guy’.

Anchor What
Anchor What
August 11, 2023 6:55 am

Special appearance by me just for Wolfman – a tribute to master filmmaker William Friedkin at American Thinker.
Link

Anchor What
Anchor What
August 11, 2023 6:57 am

Attention Wolfman – a tribute to William Friedkin at American Thinker.
Link

Anchor What
Anchor What
August 11, 2023 6:58 am

Duplicate due to non-appearance of the first one!

Louis Litt
Louis Litt
August 11, 2023 7:07 am

JC 11/8 @ 6:23
You could have provided a warning.
Career unemployed couple at the Norwood Centrelink Office.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 11, 2023 7:13 am

Chick socka news (the Tele):

Netherlands forward Lineth Beerensteyn said Thursday she celebrated the United States crashing out of the Women’s World Cup, saying the beaten holders had “a really big mouth”.

The United States defeated the Dutch 2-0 in the final in 2019 but their bid for an unprecedented third World Cup title in a row ended on penalties to Sweden in the last 16.

Pride goeth before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall
– Proverbs 16:18

mongs
– St. Matrix

calli
calli
August 11, 2023 7:24 am

There used to be symbols on those old NRMA strip maps marking “TickGate”.

Last night’s discussion brought back memories of endless road trips with my parents. They always handed the map to the horrors in the back seat to circumvent the “are we there yet” nightmare.

I still love old maps.

My take from the evening’s contretemps is that even a discussion on the things can be weaponised.

calli
calli
August 11, 2023 7:26 am

Hi Anchor! You’re looking chirpy as ever! 😀

Rosie
Rosie
August 11, 2023 7:31 am

What’s hilarious is non contributors coming out of the shadows to demand downticks.

calli
calli
August 11, 2023 7:32 am

Leak must be being very…very sly.

The portrait is

Dull
Beige
Conventional
Micro-detailed and overcomplicated
Poorly executed
Creepy (like one of those in horror movies where the eyes move)

Well done Junior!

Vicki
Vicki
August 11, 2023 7:34 am

Got the feeling that the Labor Party will rue the day ( if it is not already doing just that) that Albanese foolishly promised at the election to put the Voice to a referendum.

In spite of his “folksy” manner, Albo is old style Labor & the young bloods may believe they are watching the future election beyond their grapes as this disaster evolves.

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