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“You know so little about this Graeme you could be a “science journalist”.
Harsh but fair.”
Generally speaking to understand a science you need to be an expert on the history of that science. Thats why people like Tom Sowell were a cut above in the economics game, back in the day. Because his formal training was in the history of economics. I stopped reading books in 2003 and my economics history isn’t what it once was and my physics history was never that great.
But see physics is a little bit different. Because its at the root of science con artistry. This is where the science lies are the strongest. So while I would do a much better job of it if I was reading the old masters. from start to finish, and reading the history of science for the bedtime stuff (like I used to read sometimes some of the old guys in economics last century) still you can go a long way with physics just by focusing on what you know about shysters.
Just focus on their lies. Get rid of the obvious lies. And the clouds part in physics in a way you wouldn’t believe.
Ah yes, this evidence you lot have of Biden corruption, I recall a bunch of Republicans crowing that they had the stuff on old Joe… only to bring precisely zero to the table last week.
You remember nothing dickless. People without dicks have no memory. Remember that head prefect: this is dickless. The other idiot has no crotch, a fine but important distinction.
Biden is the most corrupt POTUS ever. His crime family has proven bribes from the chunks, ruskies, the ME and Ukraine which is why the war is occurring. Biden being beholden to overseas interest is literally the reason why the world is currently halfway over the precipice.
Allans Snackbar bloke seems to have been a loon as soon as the plane reached cruise:
The captain has since told passengers onboard they can disembark the aircraft shortly, and will be taken via bus to a terminal for some security checks, Mr Nasir said.
A women tweeted the incident “started early in the flight with constant chanting over and over again. A few people were quizzical and looked around but were being polite about it”.
“Then this guy launches out of his seat with a backpack strapped ON FRONT and starts losing it. Yelling at the top of his lungs and ‘preaching’ incomprehensibly.
“He was stalking the aisles getting in the faces of passengers. Cabin staff came through to contain him and he kicked off even more.
“Unzipped his backpack, put his hands in, made barely veiled threats about having something dangerous in it screaming at the top of his lungs right next to my seat. Never been so scared.
“(He) arced up again and tried to take on a passenger who stood up to him. Lord help us if we ever have a more serious incident.”
Once I would have almost said the same about Ed Case.
The main difference between the two is that Ed shills for the left while pretending to not be a lefty.
Every court needs a jester to inject some mirth and mayhem.
Cohenite…. 😀
Never change.
With our indigenous brothers we are spending a lot of money on them and don’t seem to be achieving a lot. But we ought to not pat ourselves on the back and say our job is done. Because we should be able to cut the budget a great deal and yet get a lot better results.
So for example I have Michael Shellenberger playing right now. And he’s talking about the drug catastrophe, focusing on San Francisco homeless. He points out that the budget for homeless in San Francisco is higher than most other places and they are getting worse results. He’s trying to analyse why and I think he’s doing not such a bad job. Bear in mind the Fentanyl issue is now a wildfire amongst white guys. So we need to think about bad policy and not assume its all about race. I mean its not like I’m going to rule that side of things out entirely. But governments have ways of undermining the confidence of people en masse. So we ought to try not to be too bigoted about it because its our guys who used to make policy. And now its foreigners who seem to, none of them being indigenous.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nSBmftZ1qU
Just what I need. Am stuck at Brisbane airport, flight to Sydney delayed indefinitely.
Phooey!
Dr. John Campbell
2% of vaccine reactions reported
Diversity targets being driven by little known organisation ‘7000 in 93 different countries!’ Farage
Activists like Monty are accidentally a walking talking advertisement for the Stupid Frigging Liberals, even when they’re trying to be the ALP — as in the current iterations of the opposition in Victoria, NSW, Queensland and WA.
Every time they open their mouths, the cost of living skyrockets.
PS: That’s why the Stupid Frigging Liberals are the opposition. Eventually, they’ll figure out that pretending to be everything your voters hate is a losing proposition.
On the perjury thing, it is a very high bar.
Simply being a prosecution witness in a trial which leads to acquittal is not prima facie evidence of perjury. In the case of a rape trial, this is the obverse side of the “believe all women” coin.
It was very similar to the Pell trial.
There were “growing calls” here for perjury charges against J.
As much as I might think he is a liar, I would be hard pressed to prove it, you know, beyond reasonable doubt.
When you start demanding automatic perjury charges for complainants in a rape trial which didn’t get over the line, based on nothing more than “they made a statement”, that isn’t so far removed from the Wilkinson-Maiden-Britnah legal model.
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“PS: That’s why the Stupid Frigging Liberals are the opposition. Eventually, they’ll figure out that pretending to be everything your voters hate is a losing proposition.”
I wish, I hope, but I’m not so sure anymore, I’m beginning to think they’re incapable of learning anything.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/08/shoplifting-threatens-close-washington-dc-grocery-store-creating/?utm_source=Email&utm_medium=the-gateway-pundit&utm_campaign=dailyam&utm_content=2023-08-13
I suppose they could do something about it, like beating the shit out of the shoplifters.
Nah – demand the government do something about it, but the problem is that the government DID do something about it and that’s why the situation is all buggered up.
So anyway without Noether. No No-Aether. No conservation laws. Matter and energy being created all the time. Energy being created and lost all the time. After getting rid of those particular lies we know as conservation laws …. It kind of obliges us to find the location of where pristine energy is be being created. Once the lies are gone they can’t hide the major location.
Where could that be in our solar system? Where is the most obvious location for new energy creation in our solar system?
I’ll let you think about that for a couple of hours. See if you can get it right.
I wish, I hope, but I’m not so sure anymore, I’m beginning to think they’re incapable of learning anything.
Making Speakperson leader in NSW suggests that is the case.
The last referendum, SSM, the yes vote got 6.5m votes out of 15.5m eligible voters, about 40%. They invalidated 5m votes on spurious grounds such as writing “no” on the envelope. And suddenly there were 6.5m out of 10.5m, about 60%. Yes to SSM.
They’ll do the same again.
Flight cancelled! This is just bluddee fantastic. Ruddy well perfect!
I feel so warmly receptive & understanding of this Islamic weirdo-beardo’s issues with western society.
Oh well, won’t be the first time I’ve slept on the benches in the domestic terminal at Eagle Farm.
Seems TE and I are the only ones interested in the pantomime playing out at Mascot.
Sad, but inevitable.
If you wish to hit a search engine in the hope debunking this, have fun. ( : F-off! … it’s from flimsy people … similar spruiking climate change types.
We’ve been sold a lie with history.
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“The last referendum, SSM, the yes vote got 6.5m votes out of 15.5m eligible voters, about 40%. “
That wasn’t a referendum, it was a plebiscite. Very different.
Better than one deciding “God willing” after making a left towards the Southern Ocean. Maybe the old boilers on the Mangy Roo don’t look so bad after all?
Okay. And Sal.
This @rsehole pretended he had a bomb and was going to snackbar the plane.
snackbar?
Shy Ted, where can I find a summary of this claim?
True. And more or less bipartisan. The comparison is limited if not spurious. Likewise the republic one.
“They invalidated 5m votes on spurious grounds such as writing “no” on the envelope. And suddenly there were 6.5m out of 10.5m, about 60%. Yes to SSM.”
No, I don’t think so.
Bolt is actually doing a good job on the liars over knickerless right now.
I’ll see your Aether and raise you Phlogiston
calli
No, I’m following it…
Trying to work out how all cultures are equal. I’m not succeeding.
All cultures are more equal than others.
Simples.
Let’s just argue with Bird over sh*t.
That’s what he’s here for.
Short for Allens Snackbar.
Which is rhyming slang for “Allahu Akbar”, the chant of choice before ridding the world of unbelievers.
Maybe the man on the Malaysian plane is a lunatic, but I don’t want to be on any plane where some git gets up and says…
““My name is Mohammed, slave of Allah.”
No thank you.
Still some life in those embers.
I came here to see you Calli. And help you fix your knees.
The criminal legal system can accommodate two concepts simultaneously. That is:-
1. A claim made by a complainant might be true; but
2. There is not enough other evidence to support a conviction.
Piss off Bird.
I actually do have a memory…and what you said about my Jewish grandchildren and trains going off into the unknown in the night.
Go away.
Thinking about the Funghi Fatty saying that her guests chose their own plates. Well, they certainly aren’t in a position to deny her claims. Also, stating that she also had gone to Hospital with stomach cramps and diarrhea, that is easily done with a big dose of laxatives.
The story keeps changing. hmmmm.
Thank you sancho.
Memory being what it is, especially if alcohol is involved, people can also be mistaken.
The excitable Mohammedan at Mascot has reportedly been arrested.
“Mental health issues” to feature prominently in tomorrow’s headlines.
My outfit had us flying Malasian for about two years due, it turned out, to a kick back corrupted travel manager.
The end was voluable and rapid, but not as one would expect because of the less than average service and suspect co-passangers of Malasian.
It ended when the European staff, who had never seen a decent airline in their lives, discovered that their FF points were being skimmed.
Apparently stage two of the travel lady’s plan was China Southern. Every cloud has a silver lining – thank you Euroweenies.
Your memory may be getting distorted along with the knees getting sore. You want to look for a fellow called Ben Patrick. The first step is always backwards walking. I don’t need to talk about those things that much any more. The vaccine genocide has gotten a lot more people upset about the Sanhedrin, so I don’t really have to be warning people so much. Not when they can see people in the State Department destroying the Ukrainians and pushing for nuclear war. Not so much my problem any more. Their power was massive when they were getting parents to poison their own children. Their power peaked the day before Putin crossed the border and they are losing power every month now.
SP @ 6:30pm
Have you read Windshuttle’s book: The Persecution of George Pell?
J’s claims and testimony are even more questionable than Higgins’ are.
Leaving out the rest of it – her dress, being so drunk, no support from her employer etc etc- in the Higgins case it could well have ended up solely as a which one to believe – her or him.
J’s claims could not have happened how, when and where he said they did – everything he said was impossible. So how to account for that?
Multiculti factoid-
“Abdullah” translates as “slave of Allah”.
…am I the only one who would waste no chance to rush the beardy antagonist? If he’s gonna blow, then it’s all seconds away anyhoo. If he’s just a mental, how would you know, plausible doubt, better safe than sorry eh?
F*cked if I’d sit tight just because it might only be a twelve hour delay and maybe a refund or upgrade.
…there should be a medal, maybe just a kiss and a wink from the cabin cuties or a special winged badge from the captain. Sure as hell Albanese Jr never did squat to earn his chairman’s lounge pass.
Thanks Delta.
Bookmarked.
knickerless!
It’s amazing the story time its gets here.
Don’t get angry, you are all cool!
Dr BG @ 1805
It is sad that mUnty, who has his own political blog, has to come here for company. I wonder has he posted anything on his own blog since he had a dig at Cassie (“Cranky”) back in early April? And whether the commenters extend beyond Homer the Idiot and Steve from Brissy?
Funny how anti-social psychopaths are constantly allowed to test our tolerance by bureaucrats we didn’t elect and politicians who didn’t ask our permission.
Went for a long drive out west this afternoon to collect a phone someone left in an uber.
Someone’s timid knock at the door elicited no response, so waited 15 minutes til 5 pm and I gave a sharp rap to the glass door.
Sleepy bloke in shorts answered.
I’ve come to collect the phone says I.
Which driver? says he.
LOL. I suppose four cars, two on the lawn and two parked in front (one of which was the nice new hybrid vehicle in question) suggested there was four night time uber drivers residing.
The driveway was empty so there might have been a couple more out doing the day shift.
Got the phone.
Scarpered.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/average-iq-by-country
Interesting.
Japanese have a higher IQ than Chinese.
Uh-huh.
You know, this makes a lot of sense.
I can’t find a link to the Mark Latham Go Fund Me page can anyone help please?
Doh! I warned you not to go there.
Well Sancho if you think anyone you know has high blood pressure spare a thought for the Giraffe. He sometimes bleeds from his ankles. His larger arteries have to be located deeper inside his body and he’s stupid with a small brain. You couldn’t get a taller animal with this gravity since he would have blackouts every time he lifted his head.
Thanks Delta re Japan tip, I’ve shared with my travel companions.
Almost time to think about packing my suitcase.
Looked at the weather forecast, hard to think about going from cold to hot, I’m so used to travelling to Europe in January.
I think “Willem Pasterkamp” has overstayed his welcome.
Colour me shocked.
Had a look at the topics for Q+A tonight. Patricia Karvelas off to a humdinger.
“Patricia Karvelas is joined by some of the nation’s brightest minds on a panel to discuss innovation, AI, the deadly wildfires in Hawaii, climate change and we ask is science sexist?” FMD
What would happen is I’d get in under Sinclairs guard. I might say something too strident. Then I’d want Sinclair to pass on a mitigating message. Like for the record let Calli know that I would consider separating a Grandma from her grandkids to be a crime against humanity and I could never advocate such a thing. But Sinclair was always happy with the current situation, and he wouldn’t allow any course corrections through.
How can the studies be supportive of White Supremacy, when Asian countries occupy the top 6 positions?
Well and truly.
In other exciting news heating has been restored to Villa Megan after being shut off in early February after our sub-floor flooded. It’s a veritable miracle after a -0.2° start this morning.
“The size of dinosaurs indicate a planet with less gravity.”
Does that mean the US has less gravity than the rest of the world, seeing as they have the highest number of obesities per capita compared to every other country?
PK on QandA, it really is circling the bowl.
PK is Aunty’s answer to Kristina Keneally.
sTan needs to point the bone at QandA.
I’ll await further information re his residential status, but generally speaking UK and US politicians who point to Australia’s “points based immigration system” as a model need to look more closely.
It’s a smokescreen.
“PK is Aunty’s answer to Kristina Keneally.”
An apt comparison.
How many points do you get for driving an Uber?
Herald Sun:
Former chief health officer Brett Sutton has been grilled in the witness box over accusations he unlawfully ordered the closure of catering company I Cook Foods.
The Dandenong South business was forced to close after it allegedly supplied contaminated food which led to the death of Knox Private Hospital patient Jean Painter, 86, from a Listeria infection.
I Cook Foods owner Ian Cook is suing the Department of Health for $50m in damages, claiming the food supplier was destroyed by the forced closure and he was denied a chance to respond before the order to shut his doors was made.
Professor Sutton, wearing a blue shirt and black tie, was called as a witness on Monday as the Supreme Court trial – dubbed ‘Slug Gate’ over allegations a health inspector planted a garden slug in I Cook Food’s kitchen – entered its third week.
Mr Cook’s barrister Marcus Clarke, KC, argued at the start of the trial that Prof Sutton acted with “reckless indifference” when ordering the business to close in February 2019.
The court heard Prof Sutton, who was then acting chief health officer, closed the business because he was satisfied by a report from an “authorised officer” that food was being prepared at an “unsafe or unsuitable” premises.
But when asked whether he knew the report he relied upon was provided to him by someone who was indeed an authorised officer, Prof Sutton said he did not know for sure.
“I was very confident he was an authorised officer,” he said.
But he told the court he had not directly seen his authorised officer card, nor did he make further inquiries.
Earlier in the hearing, Prof Sutton said there were “multiple pieces of evidence” pointing to an epidemiological link between the deceased woman – and her listeria sample – and a number of food items produced in I Cook Food’s kitchen.
“It (had become) evident to us an individual in hospital had become seriously unwell as a consequence of eating food … contaminated with listeria from the I Cook Food’s kitchen,” he said.
If Prof Sutton was not satisfied by a report from an “authorised officer” that food was being prepared at an “unsafe or unsuitable” premises, the closure of the food supplier may have been unlawful.
“I Cook lost millions of dollars as a result of complying with the destruction of stock,” Mr Clarke said at the start of the trial.
“Dr Sutton could not have been satisfied with the report of the authorised officer that the food prepared, sold or otherwise handled by or at the I Cook premises was unsafe.”
The Greater Dandenong City Council was also named as a defendant in Mr Cook’s claim, but the case was dropped after a settlement was reached in the week before the trial started.
Mr Cook unsuccessfully ran as an independent candidate in Premier Daniel Andrews’ seat of Mulgrave at last year’s state election.
Prof Sutton will continue giving evidence in the trial, before Justice Michael McDonald, on Tuesday.
Bolta advocating the passengers should have belted the shit out of the muzzie prick. I agree but you would have been prosecuted for infringing the bastard’s right to scare the crap out of people.
Err … no.
This is a popular myth, that a mere trace can kill.
It takes about 30 grams of fresh death cap to kill an adult.
Health Authorities do talk it up a bit, and rightfully so, because there are enough poisonings to warrant a fairly stern message.
That statistics support that it isn’t like Taipan venom, because the death rate from death cap poisoning is about 10-15%.
And that is the point.
A mere small accidental contamination of, say, one small 5 gram mushroom wouldn’t kill three people and come within a whisker of killing a fourth.
Gambling has brought our family together. We had to move to a smaller house.
– Tommy Cooper
Sooner doverlord extracts him the better. The poor sad loon and his obsessions don’t belong here.
Gawd here be the panel for tonight’s show
Head to the international terminal SATP. Bar there closes after midnight have a few beers and the seats are much comfier than other places I’ve slept like Bangkok, Darwin & even Cairns. Wake at 7am and there’s plenty of coffee around. From experience a couple of times.
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You guys act kind of strange for people in the middle of one of the truly largest genocide attempts in world history. Plus during a time when people in the United States appear to be attempting to provoke nuclear war. I could be saying I TOLD YOU SO.
You are pretty badly gaslit hey? But then I don’t need to talk about these people any more. Much better to talk about science.
“We need someone to go on 7:30 and say up is down and black is white.”
“Tanya’s busy, get Kristina to do it.”
“She lost the last election.”
“Bugger, I guess Albo will have to do.”
Lysander @5.55. Does Mariah Carey sing that song.
Kenny must be drinking some serious kool-aid.
Careful Birdy. Doing so well too.
Why don’t you go watch Tinker Tailor again Graeme?
Sancho:
Fair enough.
Does a dessicator concentrate the juices? Or are they just discarded? Or remain in the dessicated mushies?
I’ve never used one so have no idea.
Could the juices have toxic amounts of the … toxic stuff in them?
BBS at 7:36
You are missing the whole point here.
Just say I’m J’s lawyer and he is charged with perjury. I don’t have to account for anything.
What the prosecution needs to do is prove beyond reasonable doubt that J deliberately lied. Merely showing he was confused about dates and times, or even the identity of the alleged perpetrator, simply wouldn’t be enough to meet the criminal standard.
Okay Rosie. I just got up to where he goes to the place of an old flame. She’s desperately lonely. Talking to her cat. But its like Smiley is visiting a white witch in an old legend. She turns out to be the best information source anywhere even though she may be some years out of the game. Fantastic show. They don’t make them like that any more. Its so sad that she’s so lonely. But he gets the best advice from her.
Bit sad that Calli got mad at me. Because I like Calli so I got a bit butthurt about it.
Kenny is insane about the screech; tonight’s spittle is that the screech is a 1 page, harmless, flowers behind the ears wonder to everyone. I’ll be on air tomorrow responding to this egregious BS. I’ll draw from the S-G’s advice to albo this year.
There are 2 parts to this.
The first is what will be asked of the punters on referendum day; voters will be asked to vote ‘yes’ or ‘no’ on a single question. The question on the ballot paper will be:
A Proposed Law: to alter the Constitution to recognise the First Peoples of Australia by establishing an Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice.
Do you approve this proposed alteration?”
The real shit for the punters is the 2nd part;
Constitutional amendment
The back ground to this is on 30 March 2023, after receiving the recommendations of the Referendum Working Group, the Government introduced the Constitution Alteration (Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice) 2023 (Cth) (Constitution Alteration Bill) into the Parliament. That Bill proposes to insert a new s 129
into a new Chapter IX of the Constitution, headed:
“Recognition of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Peoples”, as follows:
In recognition of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples as the First Peoples of Australia:
(i) there shall be a body, to be called the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice;
(ii) (ii) the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice may make representations to the Parliament and the Executive Government of the Commonwealth on matters relating to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples;
(iii) (iii) the Parliament shall, subject to this Constitution, have power to make laws with respect to matters relating to the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice, including its composition, functions, powers and procedures
Points to note:
The word advice does not appear in the new constitutional provision. This is not just an advisory body as the government and yes supporters have said.
The key words are:
Representations = statement of fact
Shall = must do.
Subject to this constitution = the laws the parliament must make are what the Voice represents to parliament because the Voice is in the Constitution
The Voice will dictate to Parliament.
Anyone who downplays this is a liar or a useful idiot.
The final irony is there is already a Voice. NIAA. Already funded to the tune of $.5 billion PA.
We could, of course, instead of discussing current affairs, throw the amazing achievements of Western Civilisation in the development of mathematics, engineering, arts, sciences and architecture over the last 2000 years in the bin and ramble on about ‘Tartaria’ and answer any objections with swearing and personal abuse.
Asians and Hispanics become “white” when it suits the left (for instance, if one commits mass murder).
Hence, when the U.S. Supreme Court recently abolished affirmative action in unis for being unconstitutional, “white supremacy” was to blame even though Asian-Americans instigated the case.
Well Birdie if you could apologise sincerely to Calli, and stop trying to work in blaming Jews for everything that ails the world into everything that ever happens, maybe you would do better, here and everywhere.
My fault for leaving out the third option re perjury: that someone can be delusional. In that case they wouldn’t be criminally liable because (excuse the Latin) a crime requires mens rea, a deliberate intention, as well as actus reus, the bad act (e.g. making a false statement).
Cardinal Pell was remarkably charitable towards his accuser and I suspect it was because he thought the accuser had indeed been abused, but not by Pell, and had been coached into believing it was Pell by activists with a political agenda. The ‘recovered memory’ syndrome is notorious, and the allegations near a striking resemblance to an American case reported in Rolling Stone. Archbishop Comensoli was reviled by the usual suspects for saying the same thing before Pell’s High Court acquittal, but he may have been right.
That said, I wouldn’t rule out that Mr Chocolate Drop Eyes just made it up.
Could be the Amish getting in our shit Rosie. Could be those pesky Amish. I’ll need more research. Maybe they gave that Genesis award to the wrong person.
The Greater Dandenong City Council was also named as a defendant in Mr Cook’s claim, but the case was dropped after a settlement was reached in the week before the trial started
Any numbers been mentioned?
Assuming there’s a confidentiality agreement but there’s always a whisper number.
Testink.
This “voice” will be what, the fifth attempt at an Aboriginal “Voice to Parliament?
Read it and weep, Venestralia has dumbed itself down to the level of “Simple Jack”
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42.5 upticks.
@ OldOzzie:
““A Proposed Law: to alter the Constitution to recognise the First Peoples of Australia by establishing an Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice.”
A couple of problems:
“First Nations”: There were NO “nations” extant prior to “Europeans” turning up in the 1600s /1700s. Disparate, nomadic “extended families”? Yes. But NOTHING that would be recognizable as a “nation”.
The “concept” is a straight lift from US and Canadian ethnic politics.
First?
Conveniently swept under the carpet are the “Mungo” people of TOTALLY different ancestry and late “Tasmanian” people who wandered a long way south (WHY??) and then the tide came back in. There is ample physical evidence that the consumed a LOT od coastal shellfish and the suddenly stopped: Did somebody “important” get the bad oyster? The deliberate abandonment of a vital source of nourishment was a pretty radical move. Was Trugannini really the “last”? Then, there was that bloke claiming direct ancestry, but there was some quibble about an American whaling ship …….
The “little people” of North Queensland? There is actual film footage of the diminutive folks in FNQ in the 1920s. Very similar in appearance to the “little people” of the Indonesian island of Flores. . Apparently “merged” with the general polyglot population of the area by now.
Torres strait Islanders? Latecomers, anthropologically speaking; definitely no sign of a recognizable “nation” How many islands? How many discrete dialects.
The closest mob to something “organized” were the Kalkadoon from around Mt. Isa way. TOUGH cookies with an actual semi-organized military system. They were flogged pretty hard after a bunch of cattle went “missing”, but they persist. Look them up.
We will quietly skip over some archaeological oddities like the ancient masonry found and later destroyed in the Sunshine Coast area and some interesting rock “art” in NSW.
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When I was 14 a 40-year-old transsexual manipulated me into changing sex. For years I secretly took puberty blockers – until I finally saw through the lies of the trans activists. This is my warning for parents everywhere…
He was not just confusion about dates etc
His “memory” of the layout of the priest’s room was post its renovation, which occurred years after he claimed the assault occurred.
No one who’s attended a Catholic Mass or even an Anglican Service would have ever not witnessed the clergy processing down the central aisle to the main door to be ready to meet the parishioners afterwards – the Cardinal could not have been where J said he was.
The time taken to supposedly veer off away from the choir’s procession and end up in the priest’s room was not enough to allow for the assault to happen.
The assault could not have been premeditated because the boys’ chance to go off to the priests room would have been unknown to the Cardinal, hence why did he decide to leave the procession – for what reason?
The numbers of clergy in and around the building during Sunday Mass would make it impossible for the boys to “goof off” unnoticed.
The Cardinal wearing full regalia would have made it impossible to undertake the offence as described.
The, I think, 18?, opportunity witnesses who said Cardinal Pell was where he should have been all of the time.
If, as you surmise, J really was abused by a priest, but the activists coached him to identify Cdl Pell as the culprit, and helped him to make a physically impossible case to support that, then those activists were responsible for allowing the real culprit to evade justice.
Good work, hypocrites.
No point going over the perjury thing again.
Refer to Old Lefty at 8:26.
J would have been too old to be an altar boy post the renovation for another priest to have abused him in the sacristy.
He was coached on the setting.
By someone who didn’t know about the reno.
Well Bar Beach a rigged court is better than a car bomb right? He was auditing Vatican finances. They didn’t hang him under Black Friars bridge and he didn’t get a car bomb. He got a rigged court instead and a corrupt appeal troika.
I remember when he was exonerated. I remember how happy I was. It was like we can win sometimes after all. I even discussed the matter with E Michael Jones. Those were dark days and that was one good thing that happened in the middle of them.
Bruce
I hadn’t heard of the Sunshine Coast discovery, any details available?
Are the NSW rock items those Egyptian looking carvings found inland from Gosford?
Rome and Pompei are two of the most interesting places in Europe we’ve visited so far. Rome has ruins in enormous quantity. Apart from those which have been stabilised and arranged to tourists can see them, there are plenty of sectioned-off places where archaeological work is still going on.
I managed to get in the Colosseum, the Forum, and St Peters. One interesting aspect of the Colosseum is that most of its damage appears to have been inflicted by people carrying off stone for building materials elsewhere. It looks as if that is what happened to the original flooring as well. I was interested not only in the history but also the engineering, particularly of the floor section which allowed sudden appearances – and disappearances – of props and animals, and actors. At one stage the Colosseum was capable of being flooded.
Rome’s downside is the enormous amounts of graffiti everywhere except the ruins – the government protects those with fences and guards. On the day we were there it got to 37 at 4pm, and all of those stone-cobbled streets and concrete reflect a lot of heat.
Pompei was similarly fascinating. The guided tour took in three houses: one of a very rich person; one of a wealthy middle-class family, and one of a poorer likely-skilled worker. The visit also included two theatres, a few squares, and a brothel – complete with the remains of erotic frescoes.
One of the most interesting aspects was the explanation of how the excavated areas resembled small hills once they were covered with ash, and all of that has to be carefully removed to reveal the original houses, shops and streets. There is still around half of the town of 20,000 to go. I took an interesting photo with the scaffolding on the right and such an unexplored hill to the left.
Is the suggestion that this contradicts or embarrasses the “official” modern (carefully crafted) aboriginal history?
We should be patient with our Tartaria crowd. They are dealing with real anomalies, even if no one in their number has a convincing answer to these anomalies. It was like that with the related chronology mystery until Gunnar Heinsohn emerged to throw real light on the matter.
From the Hun.
“He was coached on the setting.
By someone who didn’t know about the reno.”
By more than one person. We know their names.
The whole Coliseum-Forum-Arch of Titus-Curia area is just fantastic.
Damning for whom?
O.L.
+1
Boambee John:
That may have been the point, BJ. Protecting one of their own, perhaps?
I’ve never formally visited the Sunshine Coast, but I did once visit the Gold Coast.
It was an epic trek.
The Qantaslink flight from Ncl went to Kempsey, then Coffs Harbour, then Coolangatta, then Brisbane. It was like riding an eccentric elevator. Between Coffs and Coolie the guy in the seat in front of me threw up over everything.
I then helped the young, tall, pretty brunette stewardess clean up the vomit. When I left the flight she thanked me by name. Oh how I wished I’d given her my phone number. One of those fond memories you acquire.
Anyway I then got to the Gold Coast and visited the business I was going to visit, and bought $10,000 worth of iridium-tantalum oxide coated titanium mesh. They produced this stuff for pool ozonolysers. We then used it in our zinc electrolysis pilot plant with success. As you do. It was a fun trip.
Colosseum – apiologies
Whybrow made a good point during the show on Channel 7 last night.
He was asked something along the lines of “Did Lehrmann do it?”
Obviously he believes Lehrmann is not guilty beyond reasonable doubt, but he stopped short of an absolute declaration of innocence.
Only two people know that for sure.
He made the point that the whole shit-show had become tribal with people locked in on both sides. The lesson to be learned from Dumgold was what happens when you get the pom-poms out for your “client”.
Corners are cut.
Documents are “lost”.
Witnesses are coached into something which isn’t their story.
The Lehrmann trial was a lesson in swinging the pendulum too far in favour of complainants, in a misguided attempt to redress a past where genuine complainants were poorly treated.
What Dumgold did is decidedly not the fix for those past wrongs.
And the fix for what Dumgold did is not to create a form of “winner takes all” where acquittals give rise to perjury charges.
And Gallagher remains in her job…….thanks to Amanda Stoker.
Yep.
However – and again, going back to the original discussion point where a woman made statements to the effect that four different blokes raped her, and that her statements reflected things that she said actually happened to her, and which were also demonstrably untrue – demonstrably, which brings the requisite standard of proof into play, which is beyond a reasonable doubt – then perjury is on the table.
In the end, it’s pretty simple.
Notice how the ABC report on resurgent anti-Semitism on campus conveniently censors out any reference to the mounting anti-Semitism of the woke left.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-08-14/students-face-antisemitism-at-university-7-30/102726396
I read somewhere that our “beloved premier” (LOL) here in Victoria got “J” a plum job, although I don’t know whether it was before, during, or after Pell’s trial.
“Whybrow made a good point during the show on Channel 7 last night.
He was asked something along the lines of “Did Lehrmann do it?”
Obviously he believes Lehrmann is not guilty beyond reasonable doubt, but he stopped short of an absolute declaration of innocence.
Only two people know that for sure.”
Indeed, and this proves that Whybrow is a very good lawyer. Both Matters and Lehrmann, whose cases are like two peas from the same pod, were lucky to have Whybrow act for them.
“conveniently censors out any reference to the mounting anti-Semitism of the woke left.”
Of course, and they conveniently censor the Jew hatred that stems from that “peaceful religion”.
But apparently, as our own resident Jew hater once wrote on blog, “they have legitimate grievances for their Jew hatred”.
TopEnder
As much as we really enjoyed Pompeii, we (my wife and I) were both much more awestruck by the remains at Herculaneum. Far more intact and, in our opinion, telling a much more vivid and human story of what happened during the eruption. There is way more yet to be uncovered, but, in this case sadly, Italy does not have eminent domain laws, and homeowners living above the site have simply told the government to “eff off”.
For me, the most mind-blowing site I have ever been to was Petra, in Jordan. It’s mind-boggling.
Point well made, Sancho. Whybrow gave the correct answer, and Drumgold was completely unprofessional to give his opinion on Lehmann’s guilt after he announced he was dropping the charges.
after. It was a council where someone of note also was working.
Top Ender:
Talking about ruins, and considering your writing abilities, an interesting example is Albert Speers “Theory of Ruins” that he promulgated with Hitler over the building of Berlin after the (victorious) war. See “Ruin Value” page154 and 56, “Inside the Third Reich” by Albert Speer.
Calli
If you’re around … an apology.
Our Queen Vickie cruise next year is in March, and it’s Singapore to Sydney. Sorry about the bum steer!
“Notice how the ABC report on resurgent anti-Semitism on campus conveniently censors out any reference to the mounting anti-Semitism of the woke left.”
Is this backlash some kind of mystery to anyone here? Like does it represent a real poser? Being as we are in a the middle of the most fantastical depopulation campaign the world has yet seen and the white on white violence manipulated since 2014 between Ukraine and Russia. Its just all a little bit too hard is it? Just too much of a conundrum wrapped in an enigma? So we’ve got to blame you and me and the kids at uni. Without giving a thought to the people who caused the devastation which has created this insignificant backlash (by way of comparison) to the initial offences.
Oh my God its just so hard to figure this out. Where is it all coming from. Its a mystery.
Perennial ‘commenter’ Susie O’Brien in The Hun:
I am down with this, as soon as we also get a public holiday celebrating the Newcastle boys’ Under 15 team.
I don’t take any surveys at face value. I want to see the method and the questions because all too often surveys are designed to produce the desired outcome. According to so many surveys we are a racist nation taking every opportunity to pour scorn and contempt on some minority group.
If ‘J’ was really abused by another priest – and I don’t know whether he was or not – the putative offender is (conveniently) dead, as I understand it.
The performance of the police and prosecutors in the Pell case was despicable. The height of it was when Richter asked a copper under oath why the police hadn’t disclosed J’s original statement. Plod replied, with a straight face, that the statement couldn’t be found (how naughty of it!) and that he had no idea why.
Given that J changed his version of events 24 times in court, the original statement would make very interesting reading.
A word of warning.
Be careful what you wish for.
If you create excessively onerous perjury laws, they won’t be used against the likes Britnah or J.
Example.
We all loved “get tough on terrorism laws”, right?
Not just to get the actual bomb throwers, but also the enablers and financiers.
So we introduce arbitrary financial restrictions which can be implemented on a whim without accountability, because we need to act fast to cut off funds to terrorists.
Who ends up being the prime target of these laws?
People like Nigel Farage.
I thought that might been the case, BBS, but I wasn’t sure.
It was around the same time that Andrews parachuted disgraced former commissioner Overland into a cushy job; a very controversial move.
That is the problem.
And the possible feedback loop via media personalities to “victims”.
O’Brien was woke long before it was fashionable.
Best ignored.
Just watching footage of Luigi at the Qantas Y-23 launch and he was baled up by a Channel 7 reporter asking him about Linda Reynolds interview last night on 7. His reply, while trying to get away – “I don’t know what you’re talking about” – and then off he went, hightailing it out of the hanger
His behaviour today reminded me of the 2022 election when he spent most of the time trying to get away from reporters so as not to answer any of their questions.
Yes Bruce, we are already thinking of coming back to the area and staying a month.
Robert, I have Inside the Third Reich at home, but back in Oz. Can’t recall his theory – what does he say, in essence?
Actually, I was just repeating what Whybrow said.
But, yes, he drew the link between becoming too invested in your “client”, or their cause, leading to the slippery slope to corner cutting and “whatever it takes”.
If Whybrow had made an absolutist statement about Lehrmann’s innocence, he would be just as bad as Dumgold.
You don’t know that, you don’t know exactly what she said.
What we do know is that her understanding of what constitutes sexual assault was a long, long way from the legal definition.
In fact she may have given exact factual accounts of each encounter, it’s just that none of them happened to be rape, except in her own tiny little #metoo mind.
One last story before I hit the fart sack:
https://www.regulationeconomics.com/_files/ugd/b6987c_2fadea7c530445f59c72b49557e3a033.pdf
“Like the onset of bankruptcy, great awakenings come slowly at first then rapidly. So it is with the global warming myth and its offspring: the myth of cheap wind and solar energy.”
IIRC, some years ago a U.S. national women’s team (don’t remember the sport) was thrashed by an amateur team of teenage boys.
Trouble is, you won’t get him through ACT Shire Council legal aid.
Too aggressive.
Cross examines looking for holes in the complainant’s story.
Poor form, apparently.
The failing therefore is with Plod and the DPP for not filtering her out.
Herculaneum.
Have to agree, its in better shape than Pompeii even if its only 25% of the whole.
I’ll never forget those people apparently waiting to be rescued in the warehouses that pre eruption were by the sea, and are now quite a long way from the shore, only discovered in 1983.
The archaeological museum in Naples has lots in interesting items from Pompeii too.
So much to see in Italy.
Has perjury gone the way of treason – little used, if at all?
Littleproud on Sky now and states that voice is not necessary, the bureaucrats will just have to do a better job interacting with community elders. I disagree on one detail, on the interaction with community elders. This is a major roadblock to fixing what is wrong. Elders have an interest in status quo to keep their place in the hierarchy and to lord it over others in their community. We should insist on individuality, everyone should interact with bureaucracy on their own terms, as all of us do.
In this day and age we are allowing an aristocracy of sorts to have power over Australian citizens. We would not accept it for ourselves and therefore we shouldn’t allow it for anyone else.
Nope, just enforce the law as it is.
Otherwise, if people are dangerously deranged, institutionalise them.
And neither do you.
This entire discussion is based on the premise that what is reported in the MSM is in fact correct. A lot of it has morphed into ‘well what about this case and that case’, which are all entirely different in circumstance.
The fact is that if you deliberately lie in a written statement (or while in the witness box) you are liable. If you happen to be Radio Rental, then as far as I am concerned you can have your defence raise it at your own trial.
That this appalling state of affairs is hardly ever pursued by either the jacks or the DPP/OPP in any jurisdiction is an effective green light to vindictive and/or Radio Rental axe-grinders.
It happened in the case described this morning, it happened in the Higgins shitfight and it happens to an untold number of people – mostly blokes – who are the subject of unjust Family Court proceedings initiated by said vindictive moles who believe, with some substance, that they can say what they like in sworn statements with no fear of consequence.
Finished the series.
I don’t quite get why Le Carre bothered with the Anne character.
Is she supposed to be be some sort of aristocrat who is beyond sexual morality?
And why did George bother, is he supposed to be hopelessly in love with her, no matter what?
I get the Bill Hayden distraction ruse but to me that would only work if he was one, not one of many.
In the film she’s apparently a much younger brunette bimbo.
Preach it.
You’ve yet to show a deliberate lie, let alone a provable case of perjury.
I’m relying on Whybrow’s claims about her being fairly accurate, that’s all.
Did you like the character of that tough guy limey convalescing in the rural boys boarding school? Only to come back and deal with the problem in such an abrupt fashion? You can’t just switch such people off I would think.
Execution is the easy answer. I’m just pointing it out. No need to feed and clothe them and stuff. It would save a fortune in legal fees.
Cassie, I agree and will never forgive Stoker. She is either stupid or treacherous and not fit to be in parliament whatever the case.
The other night I ate at a real nice family restaurant. Every table had an argument going.
-George Carlin
Then you’ve drifted into Higginsland, which was not the start point of the discussion. Mr Matters, accused of rape along with three other people was that start point.
Malicious or wompus. Both require action. None was taken.
Willem Pasterkamp
Aug 14, 2023 10:10 PM
Did you like the character of that tough guy limey convalescing in the rural boys boarding school?
Limey? Are you a Yank?
It’s quite possible for someone to misremember an event without deliberately lying or being delusional to the point of needing to be institutionalised.
That’s the trouble with pendulums, we’ve gone from women not bothering to report even gang rapes because who’s going to believe a girl that gets around to the someone felt uncomfortable about an encounter, oh you must have been raped.
Thank goodness for Whybrows and Sofronoffs and the rule of law.
I’m not sure, at the end killing Haydn for personal revenge and jeopardising the repatriation of other agents seemed a little selfish.
I think I need to read the book again. Not even a series can do a book full justice. I have a copy somewhere. Might take it to read on the plane.
Bird
As I said (with some additional information):
1. SR is not complete.
2. SR is dominated by GR.
3. The equivalence principle likely does not hold at a cosmic (greater than the observable universe) scale.
4. If space-time is thought of as the aether with a crystal structure, it conceptually solves issues. It just means we discovered what the properties of the aether really were.
5. QI is an emerging theory regarding gravity, inertia and (mostly) GR. It doesn’t need dark matter to fudge observed data. Several physical laws can be derived from QI first principles and it also implies equivalence is generally but not cosmically true.
6. There is so much evidence that GR, and SR are true and at least are good working models for the observable universe. McCulloch’s QI actually removes the need for dark matter to fit data to models and also removes the gravitational constant, G (which is really a function of the size of the observable universe).
7. Gravity might be better thought of as an emergent property like entropy rather than a true fundamental force.
simile or metaphor?
doesn’t matter
… smells like bullshit
Crossie, good comment.
The Regressive Left’s Counter-Revolution
Last chance for Cats to get some dosh on the US Democratic Nominee.
This is the best spread I have ever seen in my life. Joe is a dead man walking. Back whomever else, with whatever betting agency you want. Joe won’t be the nominee.
It’s over for him. Done and dusted. Splay your bets. 60% Newsome and pick a few outliers @ 10% each of your outlay. You can’t lose.
Bookies put up the “WIN ONLY” sign for a reason.
Watch Rashomon(again) and see how many versions of the ‘truth’ there can be.
Biden is a despicable, corrupt, perverted puppet, but I have long seen a parallel to what happened in Russia under Stalin – and not just in America.
Is Biden the Stalin of our times? “CLIMATE CHANGE” IS A TROJAN HORSE being used as an excuse to target white republicans’ small businesses the same way Stalin targeted the Kulaks during the holodomor. Biden is not only targeting small business truckers, he is also targeting family farms
Election Wizard
@ElectionWiz
ROBERT BARNES: The FBI covered up the Michigan voter fraud case at the same time they were working to create a fake Gretchen Whitmer kidnapping hoax to help Joe Biden.
I’m calling bullshit on that. All the other shit you sprouted sounds reasonable.
The issue has always been should have it gone to trial. A decision solely for the DPP. Which is why he is first (but probably not last) under the bus.
Bear, a man who wears no pants should not be commenting on these matters.
I’m not on trial here. I don’t even like Canberra.
No one likes Canberra, Bear. It’s no excuse to be wandering about the joint without pants on.
Memphis perhaps, Canberra NO.
The BBC series is very closely based on the book, including huge slabs of dialogue lifted from the original text. That said, the book has a lot of extra background material, and is anyway a compelling read.
I didn’t find Prideaux’s reaction to being betrayed by his best friend at all surprising. Throughout the story, he is depicted as a man with a strong and simple honour code, and a patriot. Hayden broke every rule that he considered to be inviolate.
Oh, and Bear surely knows that wandering around Canberra without pants at this time of the year leads to uncomfortable and unflattering consequences in the front bottom area,
Brrrr!
Gotta love the way the ABC has erased Mark Latham’s ALP past with an almost Stalinesque flair in this article about his supposed dumping by PH as NSW PHON leader. The only mention of his former federal parliamentary career is this:
10 years later he was the ALP opposition leader and very much a contender for the top job in that year’s election. Kind of a big deal to rise that high in politics, really. Probably gets a pretty fancy lifetime pension and perks as a consequence. But why mention that he climbed almost as high as an ALP MP can go if must bring up his ALP background? Surely it’s more important to state the year he was first elected to the HoR and for which electorate.
Holding people who report crimes 100% liable for the accuracy of their statements results in injustice.
As others have pointed out, eyewitness accounts can vary wildly. They are (usually) not lying. People see and remember things differently.
Applying perjury charges – which would fail almost always – to failed prosecution cases is not likely to encourage victims to come forward.
OTOH, the case of that woman who tried to destroy her copper ex’s career and life with false allegations – throw the book at her, the biggest book you can find,
Well spotted, OCO.
Get back to me when you have enough actual hard evidence implicating Joe in a specific crime. So far it’s all hearsay, dodgy hacked stuff and table pounding. Typical Republican fare, they are so bad at this stuff.
Meanwhile, do you think Fani Willis is going to put the number of indictments Trump is facing into three figures?
Tony Bobulinski’s first hand statements don’t qualify? Is there anything that would satisfy your standards here?
Bobulinski’s documents about the China deal don’t have any evidence about Joe, and the deal fell through anyway. So no.
It’s not my standards. The House Republican clown caucus of Gym Jordan and James Comer came up with nothing last week, a pitiful display after months of boasting. Everyone laughed at them.
So the monied up LLC’s don’t count? The plea bargain that went south where the evidence wasn’t argued doesn’t count? The Laptop from hell doesn’t count?
Fani (appropriate name) gets a legover from gang-bangers.
Untrue. The phone conversation with the now famous line , “My father is sitting next to me”, saw payment 5 days after the threat was made of around $5 million.
“It’s not my standards. The House Republican clown caucus of Gym Jordan and James Comer came up with nothing last week, a pitiful display after months of boasting. Everyone laughed at them.”
Nothing? The current money count from influence peddling is currently around $30 million and rising. The bank accounts registered something like 170 suspicious transactions. But hey, Bunter worked for Boston Consulting at the time and anyone who suggests this dwarfs Watergate is a conspiracy theorist.
Read Miranda Devine and tell us exactly what she got wrong. Avoid the NPC crap as no one falls for it.
mOnster, are you up for a bet?
Miss A has moved South so I’m likely to visit that way in the next few months. You ripped off JC, got a FREE steak and JC wrote off his car the last bet that you had. Impressive stuff for a mOron.
You got JC on a technicality last time. Propose a bet for me. If it involves Joes chances of winning the next election, you have my interest. He’s a “dead man” walking.
Biden would have more chance of surviving driving Arkys car than being the next President.
It’s a very slim chance either way. They are both “clown cars”.
Mark Dice:
CNN Finally Learns What Has Been Obvious To Everyone for Years
Always good when Joe Aston pays out on Cannon-Brookes, refers to him as Double Bay Jesus.
Dot can’t you get it through your thick head. Special relativity was never a scientific theory. It was a psychological operation. So every building block of it was a lie right from the start. And it was seen to be ridiculous right from the start.
The motive was to set up a filter for an institution so that those who were still in the game 30 years hence could easily be controlled. So if you look at an aspect …. The idea that pure velocity can affect time … thats a lie. Pure velocity can’t affect anything. Since velocity is entirely relative. You go down the line with it and every last part of special relativity was constructed in that manner. Which is why there is no chance that Einstein invented this ghastly mental poison himself. What would a kid know about psychological operations and how would he expect to get the decades of manipulative support necessary to lock such a horrible thing into the culture? If I came up with something that damaging, who would organise an eclipse expedition, in the middle of a global war, as a publicity stunt just for me?
Thats why they chose such a dope. Einsteain was only a figurehead. The Zelensky of physics.
John Spooner.
Mark Knight.
Mark Knight #2.
Mark Knight #3.
Peter Broelman.
Michael Ramirez. Oh dear.