Open Thread – Thurs 14 Sept 2023


Schubert at the Piano II, Gustav Klimt, 1899

1,050 responses to “Open Thread – Thurs 14 Sept 2023”

  1. Gabor Avatar
    Gabor

    Reporting for duty.
    Back to work for me, enjoy your day.

  2. Nelson_Kidd-Players Avatar

    Shall do, but the resting bit comes first!

  3. Steve trickler Avatar
    Steve trickler

    Most are in bed. A worthy repeat.

    Bee Gees – Night Fever (Moreno J Remix)

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  4. John H. Avatar
    John H.

    Site of Male Sexual Desire Uncovered in Brain – Where a Key Gene Named Aromatase Is Present

    Aromatase converts testosterone to estrogen in the brain, which drives male sexual activity.

    Mice study. Weird. So weird I checked the journal. High quality. Studies on humans offer supporting evidence.
    Full text.
    https://academic.oup.com/endo/article/161/10/bqaa137/5895007

  5. feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern

    Some of their products are very good, I’m just not a fanboy.

    It’s hard not to be a fanboy.
    I’m tapping away on my mac book pro that I purchased in 2012.
    I have this one next to the bed which has survived an ex wife, a weimaraner, coffee spills & the odd ftb foot.

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  6. feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern

    Who said:

    “We simply cannot allow people to pour into the United States undetected, undocumented, unchecked, and circumventing the line of people who are waiting patiently, diligently, and lawfully to become immigrants in this country.”

  7. Mak Siccar Avatar
    Mak Siccar

    Great painting of a great composer. Thanks Dover.

  8. JC Avatar
    JC

    Here’s Josh Hawley. The GOP currently has some of the best brains and decency in political history. And Doc says the elite is in terrible shape. Bullshit

    https://twitter.com/HawleyMO/status/1701665763445080564/video/1

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  9. Tom Avatar
    Tom

    Google delivers Mark Knight in clumps.

  10. GreyRanga Avatar
    GreyRanga

    I’ve still got an HP laptop running XP brought around 2008. Run it on Ethernet at 1GB downloads. My relatively new PC runs so much slower on W10. Microsoft is absolute crap.

  11. feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern

    Microsoft is absolute crap

    I wouldn’t say crap.
    But needs to do better.

  12. feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern

    There are videos showing the exact moment Aaron Rodgers achilles “popped”.
    It’s almost the same as when Kevin Durant’s “popped”.
    The difference being KD was playing basketball & Rodgers was being chased & tackled by a 120kilo guy.

  13. Dot Avatar

    “We simply cannot allow people to pour into the United States undetected, undocumented, unchecked, and circumventing the line of people who are waiting patiently, diligently, and lawfully to become immigrants in this country.”

    Bill Clintion in 1995 or 1996 to Congress.

  14. Dot Avatar

    Also known as Guiilame Clintoit.

  15. Dot Avatar

    John H. Avatar
    John H.
    Sep 13, 2023 11:33 PM
    Whoops: EW aircraft. My bad, just finished conquering galaxy when I should be looking up Covid impact on fertility for a friend. Material I found last night was disturbing, big hits on sperm count. The inflammation may have caused permanent damage and ACE2 receptors, the spike protein target, very high in testis.

    As a citizen, I would like to know more.

    Anything about female fertility and pregnancy?

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  16. Dot Avatar

    Real-estate startup Roam looks to bring 3% mortgage rates within reach.

    Roam, which is set to launch Wednesday, is betting that it can popularize an obscure workaround to a problem for home buyers and sellers alike: mortgage rates that are above 7%. “Assumable loans” allow sellers to transfer their own mortgage loans to the buyer alongside the house. Few consumers know about the option, and fewer still follow through with it. And many lenders are cool to the idea because for them it would mean more work for less money.

    The way mortgages are structured (they die when you sell a property & you get a new one when you buy again) is so antiquated.

    ——-________

    Okay, how and why will this mean mortgage rates cut in half or better?

    I would like to know more.

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  17. feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern

    Bill Clintion in 1995 or 1996 to Congress.

    It was Obama.

  18. Petros Avatar
    Petros

    Microsoft is crap. People should use Libreoffice if they can instead of Microsoft Office. It’s free.

  19. Johnny Rotten Avatar

    Thanks once again Tom.

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  20. feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern

    Dot, you have a debt (mortgage) secured by an asset (property).
    Just because the asset is replaced with another asset, why should the terms of the debt be re-struct.

  21. Petros Avatar
    Petros

    Interestingly, Intelslava did not report the huge attack on the port in Sevastopol. One has to read multiple sites these days to find out what’s going on.

  22. feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern

    Another thing that is silly is housing debt costs different amounts due to what you want to use it for.
    The cost of debt should be based on the asset & the credit quality of the applicant.
    Who cares if it is:
    * owner occupier P&I or I only;
    * investor P&I or I only.

    Your credit quality is your credit quality.

  23. feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern

    One has to read multiple sites these days to find out what’s going on.

    And most of it is still horse shit.

  24. Dot Avatar

    feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern
    Sep 14, 2023 5:24 AM

    Dot, you have a debt (mortgage) secured by an asset (property).
    Just because the asset is replaced with another asset, why should the terms of the debt be re-struct.

    You’re gonna have to draw a diagram like I don’t know any of this because rates dropping from 7% to 3% just seems like hype.

    You’d get 3% loans from the beginning?

    I mean, my parents lived through negative real interest rates, but this idea assumes no inflation?

    I would not lend to uncredit-worthy people. I would hope to recover inflation & origination/admin costs (included in my cost of capital), plus a margin, plus risk pricing (maybe included in the margin).

    Explain to me like I run a business but have never seen a loan before.

  25. Dot Avatar

    Who cares if it is:
    * owner occupier P&I or I only;
    * investor P&I or I only.

    I thought this went to regulation and MBS pricing.

    The loan market for cars in Australia is upside down.

    The first car loan I got was because I wanted a second-hand car and to pay it off quickly.

    I went to the mortgage broker who looked all of 18 (I was early 20s), she called up Mac Bank on a conference call and they offered me 18% at best.

    So I said no and got a new car at a rate about a third of that. The payments were for longer but about the same.

    As long as the vehicle is fully insured after a valuation, why aren’t 2nd hand cars priced at a lower interest rate? Wouldn’t the risk of driving it off the lot or the first few years of depreciation (real or not) be a bigger counterparty risk? You’re much more likely to be “upside down” on a new car.

    America has more rational chattel mortgage loans.

  26. Dot Avatar

    I wonder how Obama’s speech compared to Clinton’s 1996 anti immigant speech.

    NO ON 24!

    It’s a landslide!

    YES on 24!

  27. feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern

    I thought this went to regulation and MBS pricing.

    It’s more regulation than anything.
    I didn’t say the inefficiencies were 100% banks.
    This is why Australia is ripe to be disrupted.
    But when real disrupters turn up with deep pockets (like KKR) they just jump in the trough.

  28. feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern

    There are structural nuances in the US, German & Chinese property markets that are all very smart.
    But as we have seen in all of those markets, they don’t stop booms or busts.
    I might put some thought into a guest post.

  29. feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern

    they just jump in the trough.

    Trough refers to pigs & snouts etc.
    Not the other trough…

  30. Dot Avatar

    Did African Americans have a higher proportion of home ownership, a higher proportion of black-owned businesses and even their own stock exchange in the 1950s?

    I’ve seen this claim made!

  31. Dot Avatar

    Or even Clinton’s 1993 speech.

    Hmmm…

  32. feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern

    I’ve received 3 emails from Hawaiian airlines over the past 10 days.
    Telling people not to go to Maui was economic vandalism.

  33. Rockdoctor Avatar
    Rockdoctor

    Another observation on mornings headlines.

    Marles hiding behind National Security. Greens grub enables him to redact documents and nothing. The bloke is really an arrogant piece of work isn’t he? One of the cheerleaders of the Bishop lynching you’d think this would be a bigger story???

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  34. Rockdoctor Avatar
    Rockdoctor

    Work to do gotta go. Back to the ‘ville today too.

  35. bons Avatar
    bons

    Marles is doing for the LNP what the LNP refuses to do for us.
    Every Labor Governmrnt has arrogant pricks who eventually destroy themselves.

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  36. Vicki Avatar
    Vicki

    Re Dreyfus:

    I have always disliked him more than any other Labor hack. He is completely overrated as a legal theorist and is a thoroughly nasty piece of work.

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  37. bons Avatar
    bons

    Best wishes Jacinta for your appearance at the ABC’s disgusting National Press Club today.
    They are going to patronise you and probably sneer and smear.
    Your bravery and cool is eye watering.
    There is job going as opposition leader if you want it. The current bloke is still doing his Abbottism course.

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  38. Farmer Gez Avatar
    Farmer Gez

    Have we all said a prayer of thanks for the great works of Marcia Langton this morning?
    Dreyfus is a bench warmer compared to the her dazzling display in kicking the dead dingo.
    “Bark, you racist bastard, bark.”

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  39. Pogria Avatar
    Pogria

    Speaking of Marcia, the hamster wheel has been busy combing through her Twitter history. hahahaha
    She had a go at Mark Latham in 2018. It did not go well for her. 😀

    Marcia is too arrogant to realise once the history hamsters are after you, it’s like pointing the bone. 😀

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  40. calli Avatar
    calli

    Thanks Pogria. Now read it https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12512187/Marcia-Langton-death-message.html in Sir Les Patterson “voice”.

    😀

    She’s such a sweet, wholesome old dear.

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  41. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    One of the cheerleaders of the Bishop lynching you’d think this would be a bigger story???”

    Hardly surprising, when you have a media that marches in goose step to Labor.

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  42. calli Avatar
    calli

    Yikes. Need more coffee – linky is a bit wonky.

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  43. Pogria Avatar
    Pogria

    Calli,
    you’ve nailed it. Lately, whenever you see her on the goggle box, if she is sitting, she has totally adopted Sir Les’ slouching, spread your bod around the chair pose. I keep looking for gravy and wine stains. Probably why she seems to wear mostly black lately.

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  44. Tom Avatar
    Tom

    Marcia is too arrogant to realise once the history hamsters are after you, it’s like pointing the bone.

    Langton achieved her academic tenure because the university got to tick the blackfella box but, like Linda Burnley, her biggest problem is that she’s a dumb as a box of rocks.

    Many thanks, Marcia and Linda, for showing middle Australia how to vote on October 14.

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  45. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    “Marcia is too arrogant to realise once the history hamsters are after you, it’s like pointing the bone. ?”

    I hope so, but what I find interesting is that neither Sleazy nor the imbecilic and incoherent Burney have condemned her. They know Marcia Marcia Marcia is a poisonous woman, to her very core, they know she’s a far-left Marxist radical so, as I asked last night, why haven’t Sleazy and Burney condemned her words, why have they given her such a prominent role in this Voice referendum?

    Well, for numerous reasons, but the first thing you should understand is that this Voice referendum is a very deliberate coup by the left. If it gets up, this country is finished, it’s OVER. Secondly, Burney and Sleazy don’t condemn Langton because they agree with Langton, which is that those of us who intend to vote NO are racists and dumb. As I said last night, a shrewder Labor PM would have either not touched this Voice proposal with a barge pole OR, if they’d decided to put it to the Australian people, would have distanced themselves from the likes of Langton and Mayo. But Sleazy, not the cleverest Labor PM, really thought that last year’s election win gave him the license to pursue this.

    As for the likes of Dunny Kenny* and Joke Hilderbeast screeching about the incivility of “both sides”. NO. NOPE. NUP. It’s isn’t the NO side that is engaging in ad hominem insults towards people who are thinking differently, it is the YES side, and they’ve been doing it for months. I will not stand by and be falsely accused of something all to satisfy pro-voice scum like Hilderbeast and Dunny, who are desperate to cover up the sins of their side. They know Langton is a poisonous old woman. They know her stock in trade for decades has been spite, bile, loathing, hatred and nastiness.

    I wrote a few days ago that if this referendum goes down (and I think it will), get ready for one almighty blowback from the left and their useful mouthpieces. It will be massive. How dare we say NO to the Voice, how dare we win.

    * Further to Dunny, I’ve made paltry excuses for him until now. However he, an adult man, has chosen to hitch his baggage on a feel good campaign of disinformation and misinformation. By doing so, he’s willingly sided with scum like Langton. No thank you, I now have zero respect for him. I reckon if the Voice goes down, he’ll depart Sky.

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  46. Farmer Gez Avatar
    Farmer Gez

    Marcia gives you the distinct feeling she doesn’t t like anyone. No organisation with any skill in communication would put her in front of a camera.
    It would be interesting to ask the indig community their impressions of her.
    She’s probably killing support with them as well.

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  47. Dot Avatar

    I must make 206k USD p.a. to date a 32 year old woman with a mannish face.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-12513669/LA-model-shares-strict-list-dating-perfect-man.html

    The content creator, from Los Angeles, has revealed that she is no longer open to anyone ‘closed-minded’ and instead often opts for more mature, older men.

    my ultra-strict dating rules help me avoid liars with bad hygiene

    Such as not being able to buy a Lamborghini and a Louis Vitton luggage set in the same week.

    I’m ReAdY tO sEtTLeE dOwN nOw!

  48. Pogria Avatar
    Pogria

    In case any busy Cats have not the time to go through the Marcia link, here are the Tweets;
    Marcia to Mark, “‘You so deserve a slow, painful death and humiliating obituaries,’ Professor Langton wrote about Mr Latham.

    Mark’s perfect reply, “‘the voice of Leftist compassion in Australia’.

    ‘Indigenous, university employed, dripping with identity,’ he wrote.

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  49. Cassie of Sydney Avatar
    Cassie of Sydney

    “‘the voice of Leftist compassion in Australia’.

    ‘Homosexual, university employed, dripping with identity,’ he wrote.“

    That’s how I wish Latham had responded to that creepy and very sinister homosexual, Alex Greenfilth.

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  50. shatterzzz Avatar
    shatterzzz

    Haven’t scrolled so no idea if anyone’s put this link up from last night’s BOLT but how pathetic is this in, yesterday’s, Question Time from the “gucci gnome” .. we, actually, pay her for this dribbling?
    No wonder 251 Affairs are in such a mess with this “dribbler” in charge ..!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6A5Uc1K5pw

  51. Nelson_Kidd-Players Avatar

    Thanks Tom. Top ‘toons for me are Knight’s Joyce-Qantas one and most of the US ones such as Margolis and Branco. But they seem to have a surplus of material right now.

  52. JC Avatar
    JC

    The GOP has begun impeachment proceedings against the incompetent and corrupt dementia patient in the White House, and look at the serious and forlorn Chuck Schumer pleading they stop for the good of the nation. Just incredible

    https://twitter.com/RNCResearch/status/1701663858136318308/video/1

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  53. Nelson_Kidd-Players Avatar

    Dot
    Sep 14, 2023 7:34 AM

    I must make 206k USD p.a. to date a 32 year old woman with a mannish face.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-12513669/LA-model-shares-strict-list-dating-perfect-man.html

    The content creator, from Los Angeles, has revealed that she is no longer open to anyone ‘closed-minded’ and instead often opts for more mature, older men.

    my ultra-strict dating rules help me avoid liars with bad hygiene

    Such as not being able to buy a Lamborghini and a Louis Vitton luggage set in the same week.

    I’m ReAdY tO sEtTLeE dOwN nOw!

    A cat shelter could make a name for itself with a clever dating profile or two.

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  54. Vicki Avatar
    Vicki

    Husband and I are setting aside time from chores to watch Jacinta at the Press Club. We have loved her for a long time, as we loved her mum Bess. Both strong, honest women. They have lived the reality of cruel cultural behaviour & know that this is not understood by the do-gooders who think that money will solve the problems. It will only prolong the misery.

    My, how people have short memories. Don’t they recall the reasons for the Intervention of the Howard regime? Don’t they recall how it began from the horrors seen by the then Chief Prosecutor (a woman) of Alice Springs? Recently, the woman in a similar legal position – it may have been the senior legal person in Darwin – was also in tears talking about the cases of a indigenous assault on women and children that come before her. Why do the do-goodies ignore all of this??? Money will not fix it. Assimilation and the application of the law will.

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  55. Dot Avatar

    Good.

    America isn’t over but whose next in line?

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  56. thefrollickingmole Avatar
    thefrollickingmole

    Man up dot, shave your palms, throw back your hunch, suck in that beer gut and lie like a pig in poop about your income.
    Then, in the height of orgasmic ecstacy tell her you are really Robbo from the housing commission flat down the road and could she drop you off to Cenno tomorrow to pick up your dole.

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  57. Mother Lode Avatar
    Mother Lode

    Margolis’ cartoon is brilliant.

    I assume everyone is familiar with the memes to which it refers?

  58. Nelson_Kidd-Players Avatar

    Saw it immediately MotherLode.

    I’ve liked his ‘toons ever since Tom started posting them. His old-school black-&-white aesthetic first caught my eye but even when he adds colour the aesthetic is still there. Generally a great message as well. I look for his name in the way I used to look for Rameriz’s in the Obama era.

    How long has Tom been on the 4:00 AM ‘toons, now? 🙂

  59. thefrollickingmole Avatar
    thefrollickingmole

    Vicki

    The moral perverts ( not do gooders at all) ignore that the main victims of individual Aboriginals stealing/ bashing/ abusing is other Aboriginals.

    By refusing to remove the predators they effectively sanction more abuse and crime.

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  60. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    Geology is racist.

    ‘Too rock heavy,’ too ableist, too white: Geoscience students identify concerns in field (13 Sep)

    Geoscience courses are “too rock heavy,” remote field sites are not handicap accessible, and faculty in the field are insufficiently diverse — these are some of the concerns identified through a nationwide survey of students majoring in geoscience.

    “BIPOC students in geoscience face discrimination and barriers to learning at all levels, from microaggressions to systemic racism,” wrote Willa Rowan of Western Washington University in her August 2023 master’s thesis.

    And rocks are really really heavy.

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  61. Nelson_Kidd-Players Avatar

    Geologists are meant to rock, not do a basic two-step!

  62. thefrollickingmole Avatar
    thefrollickingmole

    Rocklickers complaining about rocks.
    Problem is the ones in her head.

  63. thefrollickingmole Avatar
    thefrollickingmole

    Off to the wilds of Wiluna for a couple of weeks…

    / and he was never seen again…

  64. Dot Avatar

    “Babe I need $600 to fix the ECU on my EA Falcon!”

    There’s a new trend now, “hobosexuals”, basically good-looking bums who will do anything in bed to get a roof over their heads.

    The tip is to hook up on a weeknight because they need to go to work the next day and you won’t get kicked out and they won’t have the time to call you out.

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  65. Chris Avatar
    Chris

    And rocks are really really heavy.

    That is their strength.
    If you can put a DEI exec under eighty-five tons of them, the whining can hardly be heard.

  66. Mother Lode Avatar
    Mother Lode

    Professor Langton was a prolific tweeter, and had amassed more than 30,000 followers and 51,000 separate tweets when she suddenly closed down her account in early 2023.

    More tweets than followers? For someone with such a high profile?

    51,000 tweets, huh? That just means that she has a lot of opinions rather than that they are profound ones. In fact, I would venture that they are the same handful of ideas tweeted repeatedly over tens of thousands of tweets tweaked only for who is a racist or a misogynist, on what mainstream Australian occasion this racism or misogyny was done, and what commonplace act is “really” the act of a racist or whatever.

    “When the racist Joe Blow said he was proud to be an Australian on Australia Day, he was really talking about white Australia, overlooking the genocide required to bring that about.”

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  67. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha Avatar
    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6A5Uc1K5pw

    Tony Burke looks as though he wishes he was somewhere else, very far away!

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  68. Vicki Avatar
    Vicki

    Now citizens of Barbados want reparation for their enslavement during the slavery movement. Look out UK. Where does it end?

  69. OldOzzie Avatar
    OldOzzie

    Petros
    Sep 14, 2023 5:25 AM

    Interestingly, Intelslava did not report the huge attack on the port in Sevastopol. One has to read multiple sites these days to find out what’s going on.

    Petros,

    Here is what we know about the incident so far.https://www.rt.com/russia/582898-sevastopol-shipyard-missile-strike/

    Kiev strikes Crimea

    The Wednesday morning attack on Crimea involved ten cruise missiles and three naval drones, the Russian Defense Ministry reported. The Russian military managed to intercept the unmanned speedboats and seven of the missiles. Those that reached the Sevastopol Shipyard damaged two ships.

    The ministry did not identify the vessels, but said later in the day, after the fire caused by the strike was put out, that both can be restored and put back into service.

    Russian media outlets have claimed that the damaged assets were the ‘Rostov-on-Don’ Kilo-class diesel-electric attack submarine and the ‘Minsk’ Ropucha-class landing ship.

    Casualties

    The strike injured 24 people, according to Mikhail Razvozhaev, governor of the city of Sevastopol. He described the condition of four of them as serious. The blastwaves also shattered windows in nearby houses and damaged rooftops, the official added.

    Unconfirmed media reports claimed that two people may have been killed in the attack. All the victims were reportedly employees of the shipyard, which is a major facility primarily involved in maintaining Russian warships.

  70. OldOzzie Avatar
    OldOzzie

    Dot
    Sep 14, 2023 7:34 AM

    I must make 206k USD p.a. to date a 32 year old woman with a mannish face.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-12513669/LA-model-shares-strict-list-dating-perfect-man.html

    Dot,

    you will also need a Powerful Bike or Electric Pump to keep inflating the Forward Assests

  71. OldOzzie Avatar
    OldOzzie

    Pogria
    Sep 14, 2023 7:04 AM

    Speaking of Marcia, the hamster wheel has been busy combing through her Twitter history. hahahaha
    She had a go at Mark Latham in 2018. It did not go well for her. ?

    Marcia is too arrogant to realise once the history hamsters are after you, it’s like pointing the bone.

    Pogria,

    the Headline is too good to leave behind

    Marcia Langton tweet emerges where Voice architect tells Mark Latham he is a ‘white supremacist, far right-wing arsehole’ who ‘deserves a slow, painful death’ and a ‘humiliating obituary’

  72. Boambee John Avatar
    Boambee John

    Vicki
    Sep 14, 2023 8:24 AM
    Now citizens of Barbados want reparation for their enslavement during the slavery movement. Look out UK. Where does it end?

    The reparations should consist of repatriation to the homeland of their enslaved forebears, with a cash payment of $10,000 to start them off in their new lives.

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  73. JMH Avatar
    JMH

    Nasty piece of work, certainly but I wonder whether dear Marcia has been geed up to sink the whole voice b/s because, all of a sudden, the Albo brains trust realise just how toxic it is. Saving face has become crucial.

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  74. Black Ball Avatar
    Black Ball

    Sub heading Daily Telegraph:

    The stranded passengers of a luxury cruise ship – carrying more than 100 Australian tourists – won’t be rescued until Friday as it emerged several Covid cases had been reported on board.

    Leave them there. Not because of the glorified flu, rather extraordinary stupidity.

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  75. Aaron Avatar
    Aaron

    100 mil for the “Yes” campaign.

    Should have remembered to remove Langton’s bile duct.

  76. Indolent Avatar
    Indolent

    Dr. John Campbell

    The [Nuremberg] Code

  77. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha Avatar
    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    . Don’t they recall the reasons for the Intervention of the Howard regime?

    I remember the “tribal elders” bawling that their “traditional authority” had been taken away.

    Relatives of mine served on the “intervention.” The Aboriginal soldiers in the unit made great role models for some of the kids in those communities. “Well, yeah, if you want to be one of our mob, you have to be able to read and write – English – and we won’t take you if you’ve been in too much trouble with the cops…”

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  78. Dot Avatar

    “Well, yeah, if you want to be one of our mob, you have to be able to read and write – English – and we won’t take you if you’ve been in too much trouble with the cops…”

    What a terrible fate. Employability skills and no gaol time.

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