Open Thread – Wed 20 Sept 2023


Still Life with Bouquet, August Renoir, 1871

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feelthebern
feelthebern
September 22, 2023 12:21 pm

The other day I was shown a catalogue of the Australia Club art collection.
I’ve never been inside the place and I wonder do they just have it hanging in hallways? That collection is simply incredible.

Robert Sewell
September 22, 2023 12:23 pm

Gabor

Sep 22, 2023 7:05 AM
Robert, did you say you were watching people working in thongs or sandals with no protective equipment, doing welding and grinding?

https://youtu.be/YQNz4qLE9mg
At the 1:10 mark a worker is loading a floor level crucible with blocks of tin/aluminium? waste – no facial protection and wearing sandals.
Welding with just the faceplate of a welders helmet to protect his eyes. Others in a casting factory carting ladles of molten steel with safety sandals.
https://youtu.be/Aje0Z4i0Nf8
Another video of tool making process. The heat in those factories must be incredible.
And yet I see very little evidence of industrial accidents – Only once have I seen missing fingers, no real burns from drops of molten metal on skin.
And the age of some of them. But what’s the choice? It’s work or die there.
I’m very conscious of origins of goods these days – and if it’s a choice of China or Subcontinental, the subcontinentals one get the sale every time.
The other thing to notice is that this was where we were 100 years ago.
Where will India be in 100 years time? Hopefully much better conditions for the wukkas.

Makka
Makka
September 22, 2023 12:24 pm

Helen Mirren does a good job in “Golda”. Unflattering portrayal of Moshe Dayan however.

Dot
Dot
September 22, 2023 12:25 pm

Dear Sucker Born Yesterday,

My name is Vanessa Hudson and I’m the new CEO of the Qantas Group.

We know that we’ve let our customers down and we’ve got some things wrong, and I want to say that we’re sorry. I want you to know that we’ve heard you, and that we are working hard to rebuild your trust in us.

In the short video message below, I share more information about the actions we’re taking to once again be the national carrier Australians are proud of.

We will get back to the Qantas you know and love, and my promise to you is that we’ll work hard with the help of our amazing people to be even better.

We’ll keep listening to your feedback and I hope you continue to share your thoughts on what you’d like to see from us in the future as we commit to taking action in big and small ways.

She is a RIVER to those disenchanted customers!

Dot
Dot
September 22, 2023 12:26 pm

QAN, HVN, TLS & CBA.

If you don’t use them and HATE them, it’s unAustralian.

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 22, 2023 12:28 pm

In good news, Tasmania’s “Dark Mofo” has been cancelled for 2024, citing “Financial strain” as the reason. Of course it was assisted by your dollars enormously.

Cance it for good. Burying someone for 24 hours in one of Hobart’s main streets was apparently “art”.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 22, 2023 12:29 pm

Bruce of Newcastle
Sep 22, 2023 12:19 PM
We must warn trees about climate change.

Kool Keith:

Dr. Octagon – “Trees” feat. Kool Keith & One Watt Sun

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 22, 2023 12:31 pm

Scientists discover irrigation.

We could sequester CO2 by ‘re-greening’ arid lands, plant scientists say (Phys.org, 21 Sep)

“Re-greening deserts by restoration of ecosystem functions, including carbon sequestration, should be the preferential approach,” writes the research team, led by senior author and plant scientist Heribert Hirt of King Abdullah University of Science and Technology. “The advantage of reclaiming arid regions for re-greening and carbon sequestration is that they do not compete with lands used in agriculture and food production.”

The King Abdullah University of Science and Technology is located in Saudi Arabia, one of the driest deserts in the world. Good luck, guys, turning that place into a green Mecca.

Lysander
Lysander
September 22, 2023 12:40 pm

Biden has done it again…

Nearly knocking over the Brazilian flag and then not responding when Brazil’s pres asks “Mr Biden, can you hear me?”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDqcGGCjJVY&pp=ygUUYmlkZW4gYnJhemlsaWFuIGZsYWc%3D

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 22, 2023 12:42 pm

I’ll go for net-zero ANU academics by 2035 please.

Net zero by 2050? Too late. Australia must aim for 2035, say researchers (Phys.org, 21 Sep)

Here’s who the authors of this imbecilic article are:

Mark Howden
Director, ANU Institute for Climate, Energy and Disaster Solutions, Australian National University

Frank Jotzo
Professor, Crawford School of Public Policy and Head of Energy, Institute for Climate Energy and Disaster Solutions, Australian National University

Ken Baldwin
Inaugural Director, ANU Grand Challenge, Zero-Carbon Energy for the Asia Pacific, Australian National University

Kylie Catchpole
Associate Professor of Solar Engineering, Australian National University

Kylie Walker
Visiting Fellow, Australian National University

Lachlan Blackhall
Entrepreneurial Fellow and Head, Battery Storage and Grid Integration Program, Australian National University

Rabz the whole place down to the foundations, and salt the earth under them!

Kneel
Kneel
September 22, 2023 12:43 pm

John H: “You and Steve want to demonstrate contempt…”

I generally agree with the sentiment expressed in your post, however I feel the radical left has managed to take control of the conversation on their side – “normal” people such as your 160+ IQ left-leaning friends don’t want racism etc, and in fact fight against it (as do most sane people, left or right).

It is worth pointing out that the right understands the position of the left, they just disagree with it. The left – and most especially the radical left – see the position of anyone who disagrees with them as “far right” and evil – they don’t want to argue with you, they want to shut you up and “un-person” you for “wrongthink”.

Sorry John, but being reasonable and nice no longer works – I wish it did, but it doesn’t. Better to “offend” some of these people than to let it fester and then explode into violence or other radicalism in the opposite direction. Because that is what will happen – again, I wish it was not so, but it is.

duncanm
duncanm
September 22, 2023 12:45 pm

areff
Sep 22, 2023 11:47 AM
Apologies if already posted, but this latest of Hanson’s Please Explains is, without a doubt, the very, very best so far:

Penny Wong’s balls on the wall…

Lysander
Lysander
September 22, 2023 12:48 pm

The Hoover Institution interviews Steve Koonin (who was an Obama appointee) on the failure of climate alarmism:

https://youtu.be/l90FpjPGLBE?si=mAUlIdvCh8R_n3OY

If you’ve never heard of him:

Steven Elliot Koonin is an American theoretical physicist and former director of the Center for Urban Science and Progress at New York University. He is also a professor in the Department of Civil and Urban Engineering at NYU’s Tandon School of Engineering. From 2004 to 2009, Koonin was employed by BP as the oil and gas company’s Chief Scientist. From 2009 to 2011, he was Under Secretary for Science, Department of Energy, in the Obama administration.

Makka
Makka
September 22, 2023 12:49 pm

The King Abdullah University of Science and Technology is located in Saudi Arabia, one of the driest deserts in the world.

An observation.

In the 70’s and early 80’s, the Kingdom went hell for leather with crop circle irrigation , establishing hundreds of thousands of wells across the deserts (there are several) to grow wheat. They started with diesel engines driving pumps of around 90- 120 hp. The wheat was largely exported to poor moslem nations as “aid”. They were in fact exporting their water.

The hundreds of millions in grants to the industry ended up also in the hands of head banging Wahabi desert dwelling types. Keeping them happy kind of.

As the years passed they needed to go deeper. There once was a massive underwater catchment beneath the Arabian Peninsula (similar to the Sahara beneath Libya) Anyway by the mid 90’s, they needed engines of 500hp+ to pump lift water from the well depths now 100’s of meters lower.

Now, they have a number of recently built desal plants providing water to their growing population having destroyed their once abundant natural resource.

johanna
johanna
September 22, 2023 12:53 pm

Called up a friend of over 20 years who cut me off (Chinese wife probably in charge) because I didn’t have a shot. Hope he’ll call back.

The damage is not just in dollars and cents.

Johnny Rotten
September 22, 2023 12:55 pm

Rabz
Sep 22, 2023 11:31 AM
This MC Hammer?

“I like big bottoms and I cannot lie
That Pluckachook ho is mighty fly
Juliar Gillard has a booty to die
So ‘scuse me while I kiss the sky …”

From Purple Haze?

Purple haze, all in my brain
Lately things they don’t seem the same
Actin’ funny, but I don’t know why
Excuse me while I kiss the sky

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 22, 2023 12:59 pm

Called up a friend of over 20 years who cut me off (Chinese wife probably in charge) because I didn’t have a shot.

F*ck them.
COVID was the greatest self selection exercise in recent history.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
September 22, 2023 1:08 pm

She is a RIVER to those disenchanted customers!

Yeah. CFO doesn’t always develop the right skillset to be CEO.
Rule #1 of business: If your preference if for a business to thrive & grow, never let accountants anywhere near decision making.

Rabz
September 22, 2023 1:09 pm

Dear Sucker Born Yesterday,

My name is Vanessa Hudson and I’m the new CEO of the Qaintarse Group.

She forgot to include this line in the subsequent self righteous utterly insincere screed:

It’s all the toxic mincing Leprechaun’s fault, I tells ya!

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 22, 2023 1:20 pm

Cassie

Crawl back into your hole, pervert apologist, and take the likes of your ideological buddy, Amanda Fazio, with you.

8 1

I think we can make a good guess as to who provided the single “Thumb Down” (Hi Johnny R) to this comment.

Rabz
September 22, 2023 1:22 pm

Burying someone for 24 hours in one of Hobart’s main streets was apparently “art”

If they’d been buried in taxpayers’ dollars, however …

Johnny Rotten
September 22, 2023 1:34 pm

Boambee John
Sep 22, 2023 1:20 PM
Cassie

Crawl back into your hole, pervert apologist, and take the likes of your ideological buddy, Amanda Fazio, with you.

8 1

I think we can make a good guess as to who provided the single “Thumb Down” (Hi Johnny R) to this comment.

I gave the post an “Up Thumb” to make it 12 to 1.

Indolent
Indolent
September 22, 2023 1:39 pm
Robert Sewell
September 22, 2023 1:42 pm

Jorge

Sep 22, 2023 10:54 AM
Say No gets up.
Expect condemnation from the UN.
They overrule us.
Sanctions called for. Australians, international pariahs.
No need to wonder how Albo, Wong and co will respond.

I hadn’t consciously thought that far ahead.
That’s a nasty little scenario you’ve assembled there.

Cassie of Sydney
September 22, 2023 1:42 pm

“johanna
Sep 22, 2023 12:53 PM
Called up a friend of over 20 years who cut me off (Chinese wife probably in charge) because I didn’t have a shot. Hope he’ll call back.

The damage is not just in dollars and cents.”

A thousand upticks. And I’m sorry to hear this, Johanna.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
September 22, 2023 1:53 pm

Interesting they can control cockroaches at a Singapore University. What about flied lice?

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
September 22, 2023 1:55 pm

Cassie and like minded people might want to note tomorrow’s No rallies are not organised or funded etc by the Official No campaign organisers.

News articles from SMH and Guardian during the week indicate a pro Putin supporter, Aussie Cossack, is in involved in the organisation of the rallies. He has been in the Russian consulate from start of year as he is wanted by police for an assault on a pro Ukraine supporter. He gained some notoriety during the mandates period but from my point of view is now a Putin propagandist.

If you want to support the No campaign do so by attending any official events or obviously by just voting No.

calli
calli
September 22, 2023 1:56 pm

Another one who doesn’t want to be cancelled.

Never mind. Phillip Adams will like you now and not call you racist names.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
September 22, 2023 1:57 pm

RS is the nasty little scenario the UN sanctoins or Luigi, Benny Wrong and co. Both!

Rabz
September 22, 2023 2:02 pm

Kamahl explains why he is changing his vote to yes:

“Because people have been so very unkind …”

Indolent
Indolent
September 22, 2023 2:03 pm

Another chirpy young woman on Daily Wire.

The Russell Brand Shakedown

and a couple of the comments –

Russell has been poking the globalist bear for years. The fact they are attacking him now is significant.

If only they cared this much about epstein

JMH
JMH
September 22, 2023 2:07 pm

Kamahl explains why he is changing his vote to yes:

Obviously not a critical thinker.

JC
JC
September 22, 2023 2:11 pm

51% of CEOs within FTSE 100 companies have a financial qualification or began their professional life in a finance role — finance is becoming more embedded in the c-suite.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
September 22, 2023 2:16 pm

Here’s one of the most uninspiring speeches you could ever hope to see. (From a top level CEO. She’s only a chair warmer, due to the leperchaun hightailing it unexpectedly)

Aaron
Aaron
September 22, 2023 2:19 pm

“If your parents only reached Year 9, they may not value education as much as a family that has been through university and who understand that education is critical,’ he said”.

Wayne Bennett left school at 13. Marcia Langton is a professor.

Many a lightweight has a uni background.

JC
JC
September 22, 2023 2:22 pm

Nice piece by Henry Ergas in the Oz, but he left out one thing about the cultural elites. Lobbing spit balls at dissenters.

Little wonder then that so many now bow to strange gods: what surer evidence of collective madness could there be than the many thousands of inner-city lefties, who, having denounced Australia’s founding fathers as murderers, daily “pay their respects” to past Indigenous elders who rained violence on women and children? Convinced, like the European romantics of the 19th century, that their own civilisation is rotten to the core, our cultural elites have found its replacement among rose-coloured visions of noble savagery.

And little wonder too that magical thinking, whose woolly-minded appeal is entirely to the emotions, has become so widespread – with devastating effects on the quality of the public debate.

That is not to deny that emotions have a place in politics; but the arguments being mounted by our revivalists are to reasoned deliberation what kitsch is to art. The late, lamented Milan Kundera thought it was only a matter of time before the Western bourgeoisie, having shed the final vestiges of its cultural inheritance, would flock to exhibitions of garden gnomes, fluffy kittens and children in tears, while shunning those of Giotto, Titian, Monet and similar rubbish.

Had Kundera seen the ads being run by the Yes campaign, he would have known that in Australian politics, the triumph of kitsch has come even sooner than he dared imagine.

It may be that barrages of kitsch-laden ads will convince voters to accept irreversible changes to our political institutions. But it is not irrational to place some confidence in the laconic common sense that was once regarded as the quintessence of our national character.

Buccaneer
Buccaneer
September 22, 2023 2:23 pm

In other Nanny State news

Salvatore, Iron Publican
September 22, 2023 2:23 pm

“If your parents only reached Year 9, they may not value education as much as a family that has been through university and who understand that education is critical,’ he said”.

Which clueless idiot said that?

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 22, 2023 2:35 pm

Joh

nny Rotten
Sep 22, 2023 1:34 PM
Boambee John
Sep 22, 2023 1:20 PM
Cassie

Crawl back into your hole, pervert apologist, and take the likes of your ideological buddy, Amanda Fazio, with you.

8 1

I think we can make a good guess as to who provided the single “Thumb Down” (Hi Johnny R) to this comment.

I gave the post an “Up Thumb” to make it 12 to 1.

JR

I phrased it badly. I was pointing the finger at mUnty as the source of the Thumb Down, but giving you a nod about thumbs versus ticks.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 22, 2023 2:43 pm

It was posted last night, Bruce of N.

Oops, yes, my mistake. PM not AM. Still sitting on zero comments though. That’s odd.

Buccaneer
Buccaneer
September 22, 2023 2:44 pm

Apparently, in Cold War East Germany, Trabant’s were so popular there was a 15 year wait to buy one. Seems like you can’t fix stupid…

Johnny Rotten
September 22, 2023 2:46 pm

JR

I phrased it badly. I was pointing the finger at mUnty as the source of the Thumb Down, but giving you a nod about thumbs versus ticks.

LOL. I worked that one out thanks and wanted to let you know that I gave the post an uptick……….Errrrrrrrrr, I mean an “Up Thumb”……..lol

Pogria
Pogria
September 22, 2023 2:49 pm

Re Cassie’s comment earlier, Amanda Fazio. eeek!
Forever more to be known as LAVERNE de Fazio.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
September 22, 2023 2:49 pm

“If your parents only reached Year 9, they may not value education as much as a family that has been through university and who understand that education is critical,’ he said”.

Well that’s OK then, my Dad left school at 8 and was functionally illiterate could only sign his name and Mum was highly educated she left school at 10. But I must say they valued education greatly and in fact my Dad, being Italian and all, was savagely criticised by the grievance mongers in the Italian community because he was educating his daughters to matriculation level. The criticism was to the effect: why is he educating his daughters they’ll only leave school and get married, what a waste of money – Mum and Dad were poor but scrimped and saved for us to attend Catholic schools. So much for not valuing education.

My dear departed dad had to deal with the nongs out of university who were with the Department of Agriculture – which prompted him to observe: they go in knowing little and come out knowing less.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 22, 2023 2:51 pm

Kamahl explains why he is changing his vote to yes:

Kamahl changed his vote after meeting Indigenous comedian Dane Simpson and constitutional lawyer Eddie Synot and listening to their arguments.

“I’m embarrassed, until Monday or Tuesday I didn’t realise they (Indigenous people) were considered not human,” he said.

Oh, Good Lord.

A horrid cynic might imagine that Kamahl’s conversion was on the cards a week ago when he shocked the world by advocating ‘No’.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
September 22, 2023 2:54 pm

Kamahl, 2 hrs ago:

I can’t begin to thank Dan for the opportunity to reconsider my Vote to YES! Instead of being BOOED, I’m drowning in the Love and Goodwill
that’s being poured all the over by so many of the ‘X’ followers !
“Why so many people are unkind?”
Please be Kind !

Makka
Makka
September 22, 2023 2:56 pm

“I’m embarrassed, until Monday or Tuesday I didn’t realise they (Indigenous people) were considered not human,” he said.

Reinforcing No voters. Confirmation the Yes side are lying scum full of hate preying on airheads..

calli
calli
September 22, 2023 2:56 pm

“If your parents only reached Year 9, they may not value education as much as a family that has been through university and who understand that education is critical,’ he said”.

I suspect people who have not had the opportunities for further education would value it more and want it for their children…in a non-entitled way as well. The important thing is to desire a good education, not the pap that’s served up as “education”.

I’ve compiled a list of authors for my daughter (yr6 son at advanced reading level), spoke to her moments ago. So thanks to all who contributed to the list – hopefully we will have a sophisticated reader and not one burdened with the over sexualised, hyper catastrophic content that passes for “youth” reading these days.

Pogria
Pogria
September 22, 2023 2:56 pm

Foolish Kamahl is receiving no love in the comments. Opining that he had not been “fully” educated about our Abos. Says he had NO IDEA that until 1967 they had not been considered Human.
Silly old fart got Pineappled good and hard.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 22, 2023 2:58 pm

Reinforcing No voters. Confirmation the Yes side are lying scum full of hate preying on airheads..

They’re going to need a bigger celebrity.

calli
calli
September 22, 2023 2:59 pm

Is Kamahl being sarcastic?

So hard to tell these days.

Pogria
Pogria
September 22, 2023 2:59 pm

SNAP, all other Cats who posted about Kamahl. 😀

Bruce in WA
September 22, 2023 3:02 pm

Currently on a bus excursion in Kushiro. Advertised as requiring significant walking over rough ground and up and down steps. Why oh why then did one of our lady passengers, who must be pushing 200+ kilos, come on it? She is suffering badly … and only probably in her late 30s!!

Johnny Rotten
September 22, 2023 3:02 pm

Trump Promises Largest Deportation in US History

“Illegal aliens are pouring into America from the southern and northern borders. Cities have been destroyed, public places overrun, and local governments are wiping out their budgets to support these intruders. US citizens are beginning to clash with refugees, as was witnessed in Staten Island, NY, when people tried to prevent migrants from exiting a bus. The NYPD was there in full force but was nowhere to be seem when Black Lives Matter was burning down neighborhoods. The migrants are here because the Biden Administration allowed them in. If elected, Donald Trump promises to kick them out.

“One of the most important issues in this campaign is ending the nation-wrecking catastrophe on our southern border,” Trump stated. He says that the invasion as created such a crisis that he would work to secure the borders on day one. “A vote for President Trump means Joe Biden’s horror show at the southern border ends at high noon on Inauguration Day, 2025,” he stated. Trump said he will end every open border policy and follow the Eisenhower Model.

President Dwight Eisenhower implemented Operation Wetback in 1954 to deport Mexican citizens. The term “wetback” has been considered derogatory ever since, but both the Mexican and US government participated. America needed cheap labor during World War II and introduced the Bracero program from 1942 to 1964. Mexicans could work in the US temporarily on short-term contracts. Mexico agreed as they wanted their citizens to return with USD to boost the economy. The US government was unable to handle the influx and this led to the El Paso incident where Border Patrol simply opened the borders with Texas. Two million Mexicans applied for the Bracero program but 70% were denied.

Mexico was facing a time of political instability and extreme poverty. No one wanted to return to Mexico with their dollars, angering the Mexican government, and a portion were there illegally without a contract. The US and Mexican governments collaborated on Operation Wetback in June 1954. The goal was to deport as many people as possible with little to no processing time. Numerous planes, buses, and boats descended on the US and brought everyone they could find back to the Mexican border. The Mexican government then moved these people to a portion of the country in need of labor, primarily agricultural. Over 1,074,277 people were deported back to Mexico.

Human rights groups back then shrieked at the inhumane handling of migrants. In today’s world, the Social Justice Warriors would use their own children to barricade the border to prevent this from taking place. But there is no alternative. South Korea recently implemented a less extreme mass deportation strategy that was successful. There are estimates that over 3 million illegals have entered the nation under Biden, and they’re not here to work in the fields. Trump has long touted the importance of securing the border and perhaps now others will listen.”

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/politics/trump-promises-largest-deportation-in-us-history/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=RSS

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 22, 2023 3:06 pm

Former ACT chief prosecutor Shane Drumgold’s office manager went to the territory’s integrity watchdog with allegations her then boss mishandled expenses and broke department policy by claiming for alcohol and $5000 in global phone roaming charges.

WTF?
Telstra charges $10 a day with 1 Gig of data included.

JC
JC
September 22, 2023 3:09 pm

Nice tribute to a dude who’s had an incredible life. An Aussie battler, he broke through into the two toughest media cities in the world – London and New York.

A Salute to Rupert Murdoch
The newsman invested in the Journal and saved it from decline.

By The Editorial Board

Rupert Murdoch announced Thursday that he’s resigning as chairman of his two media companies after seven consequential and highly successful decades. Few entrepreneurs have had a bigger impact on public life across the world, and allow us on the occasion to say a word about his role at the Wall Street Journal.

Mr. Murdoch bought Dow Jones, the Journal’s parent company, in 2007 for what critics said was the exorbitant price of $5 billion or so. The company and publication are venerable names, but the digital revolution was taking its toll. Most of the company’s net profit was paid out in dividends, and there wasn’t much left to invest in digital innovation and product enhancement.

News Corp
invested in the Journal and has made it better. This includes digital platforms like the iPad, the App and even print, but above all Mr. Murdoch invested in journalism. International and other reporting expanded, and the weekend edition added coverage of business, arts, books and culture.

This was the opposite of the choice made by many other publications, and Mr. Murdoch saved the Journal from a similar decline. The Journal and Dow Jones are now more profitable, with growing readership and revenue, which is important to maintaining the ability to do independent journalism.

We’re especially grateful that Mr. Murdoch and other News Corp and Dow Jones executives have supported us when we’ve come under political or other pressure to change our views or our coverage. This is true whether the pressure has come from the Chinese Communist Party, business titans, woke journalists, or American Presidents.

At his core Mr. Murdoch is a newspaperman. He likes the news business and believes in its mission to inform readers and, if possible, make the world better and freer for more people. In our personal experience over 16 years, the coverage by our media competitors of Mr. Murdoch as a Machiavelli telling his journalists what to write couldn’t be further from reality.

He wants his journalists to be curious and energetic, but also to think for themselves. As a former News Corp executive of long experience once advised us, he wants to hear what you think, not what you think he wants to hear. As a publisher he believes in robust debate and challenging the conventional wisdom—a mission all the more important these days when so much journalism is conformist.

As Mr. Murdoch put it with typical candor in his note to News Corp employees on Thursday: “Self-serving bureaucracies are seeking to silence those who would question their provenance and purpose. Elites have open contempt for those who are not members of their rarefied class. Most of the media is in cahoots with those elites, peddling political narratives rather than pursuing the truth.”

Rupert Murdoch’s legacy extends far beyond the Journal, going back to his roots in Australia, then to the United Kingdom, and then to other countries in Europe, Asia, the Middle East and ultimately the U.S. He has extended the orbit of liberty and prosperity.

Mr. Murdoch is in good health at age 92 and will become chairman emeritus. Yet even as he turns the helm of his companies over to his son, Lachlan, he said on Thursday he will stay “involved every day in the contest of ideas.” Let’s hope so.

Aaron
Aaron
September 22, 2023 3:16 pm

Who said it?

Kimberley Land Council CEO Tyronne Garstone will be part of this advisory body, and told The West Australian the outcome of the referendum into a Voice to Parliament could shape how much power the WA Voice holds.

He also noted that a Voice to Parliament could address and tackle problems within the education system which disproportionately impact Aboriginal children and their families.

‘If your parents only reached Year 9, they may not value education as much as a family that has been through university and who understand that education is critical,’ he said.

‘For many Aboriginal families, just getting through a week, dealing with the cost of living and securing housing, is a challenge.’
……

Of course, all whiteys have a uni qualification and are millionaires without a care in the world.

JC
JC
September 22, 2023 3:20 pm

Dover, I don’t get it. Does the US pay the Ukrainian police and firemens’ pensions?

Additionally, American “pensions” are paid through the Social Security fund and state pension schemes. Is this aristocrat (the Baron) suggesting the SS and state pension payments will be blocked if there’s a government shutdown. None of that comment makes any sense. Can you help explaining it?

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 22, 2023 3:22 pm

Former ACT chief prosecutor Shane Drumgold’s office manager went to the territory’s integrity watchdog with allegations her then boss mishandled expenses and broke department policy by claiming for alcohol and $5000 in global phone roaming charges.

Pro Tip: If you’re putting dodgy claims through, make sure you pay your Office Manager’s partner for the work done on your holiday home.

Vicki
Vicki
September 22, 2023 3:23 pm

F*ck them.
COVID was the greatest self selection exercise in recent history.

I used to think so, feelthebern, but now I am not so sure. In the dark days of Covid I joined a city group of people in my area who were as vehemently opposed to the mRNA “vaccines”, as I was. Although I formed some firm and lasting friendships, I soon found out that many among them were devoted “Greenies” and supported the local Teal candidate. They began to use the “get-togethers” to support the latter, and also the return of that monumental bore Julian Assange. That was the end of the “socials” for me, although I will always be grateful for their support during those dark years of Covid madness.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 22, 2023 3:24 pm

Just as Zelensky arrives in Washington, Poland calls it quits on arms sales to Ukraine

After browbeating a sparsely attended United Nations’ General Assembly about Russia’s invasion, and calling for additional international support on the grounds that Ukraine’s fight is everyone’s fight, President Volodymyr Zelensky is heading to Washington, to lobby for more money; $24 billion up for a vote in U.S. Congress.

Jack Poso ??
@JackPosobiec
BREAKING: Ukrainian media edited Zelensky’s UN speech to make it look like he had a bigger audience

They forgot to edit out Zelensky himself sitting in the audience. Look at the 0:14 mark

Joe Biden, who’s never met a spending bill he didn’t like, is all for it, but House Speaker Kevin McCarthy, who leads increasingly skeptical Republicans, says that all he wants to know is:

“Where’s the accountability on the money we’ve already spent? What is the plan for victory? I think that’s what the American public wants to know.”

That’s not much to ask, really, but neither Zelensky nor Biden are going to give him those answers.

Zelensky’s approach is to say that he’s still winning the war. He may be grotesquely outnumbered, and most of his army may be already dead, but Ukrainian ingenuity and persistence will do the trick. He’s been saying this for a while now, calling for total victory, with no concessions to much-bigger Russia, and it’s getting a little old.

He’s mouthed global warming platitudes at the United Nations to please Joe Biden, and fired a crazed transgender American military spokesperson for Ukraine, after the latter started putting errant American journalists on hit lists, in order to please Republicans. He’s made every neocon argument about the threat to the global order, the moral good of winning, the importance of “saving democracy” and the dangers of emboldening Russia should Ukraine fall as the first domino.

But win? We still don’t know if he can win. And inquire about the previous money? Like, with an auditor? Nope, not gonna get that. Getting an auditor would “play into Putin’s hands,’ and anyone asking is a “Putin stooge.”

The claims that Ukraine can win, though, seem to be going down like a shot-down fighter jet.

Morsie
Morsie
September 22, 2023 3:26 pm

Wandering around the net and saw someone describe themselves as a cobble cobble wakka wakka woman.
They are just taking the piss now

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 22, 2023 3:28 pm

The Voice. A Landcruiser in every pot.

Vicki
Vicki
September 22, 2023 3:32 pm

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/politics/trump-promises-largest-deportation-in-us-history/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=RSS

Wow! Just wow! If Trump could achieve “Operation Wetback” on a much larger scale, he might just arrest the decline of border control.

As for Oz – why would illegal migrants risk a perilous journey when they can now board an aircraft & arrive, with our government’s blessing, as a new workforce?

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 22, 2023 3:33 pm

I note Henry Ergas touches on the Noble Savage myth. Some people get a bit upset when you do that.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 22, 2023 3:35 pm

Mundine to withdraw from Senate race
Remy Varga
Remy Varga

Prominent Indigenous leader and No campaigner Warren Mundine will withdraw from the race for former defence minister Marise Payne’s senate spot.

Mr Mundine’s exit comes after he made comments at odds with the No camp in the referendum debate by backing treaties with Indigenous Australians and changing the date of Australia Day from January 26.

Mr Mundine, who ran for the Liberal Party in the seat of Gilmore at the 2019 federal election, is understood to have decided to stay in the business sector.

Mr Mundine told ABC’s Insiders program on Sunday that he supported treaties because they resolved issues around sovereignty and protected Indigenous culture and heritage and said treaties were more likely to occur if the voice referendum was voted down on October 14.

This contradicts a key claim from the No camp that a Yes result would pave the way for treaties because the Uluru Statement from the Heart asks for voice, treaty and truth.

Mr Mundine also acknowledged he disagreed with the No side on changing the date of Australia Day.

Leading No campaigners have cautioned the voice will try and change Australia Day as part of its pitch to persuade voters to reject the October 14 referendum.

“We are just arguing and arguing and arguing about this, and this is one of the reasons why I believe that the idea that the voice, when it is set up, isn’t going to talk about Australia Day is nonsense,” he said.

“We need to confront it and talk about it.”

Mr Mundine’s exit leaves former NSW transport minister Andrew Constance as the frontrunner in the race for the NSW Liberal Senate seat, nominations for which close on November 4.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 22, 2023 3:40 pm

The Voice. A Landcruiser in every pot.

It seems that some entrepreneur in the territory has the contract to salvage those Landcruisers that are abandoned by the side od the road, when they run out of fuel…

Robert Sewell
September 22, 2023 3:40 pm

Jorge

Sep 22, 2023 10:54 AM
Say No gets up.
Expect condemnation from the UN.
They overrule us.
Sanctions called for. Australians, international pariahs.
No need to wonder how Albo, Wong and co will respond.

I hadn’t consciously thought that far ahead.
That’s a nasty little scenario you’ve assembled there.
Addit:
South Africa, anyone?

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 22, 2023 3:41 pm

Casual Senate vacancies are always a test for any political parties. Naturally expect the Lieborals to fail this one. Always a conga line of hacks and time servers ready for a spot on the red leather. Especially if it does not involve those grubby voters.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 22, 2023 3:43 pm

Dr F

“I’m embarrassed, until Monday or Tuesday I didn’t realise they (Indigenous people) were considered not human,” he said.

Oh, Good Lord.

A horrid cynic might imagine that Kamahl’s conversion was on the cards a week ago when he shocked the world by advocating ‘No’.

Kamahl seems to me to be saying that he was monstered by the YES lobby, and gave an ambiguous reason for supposedly changing, but his actual vote might be different.

Weak, but given the viciousness of the PC left towards their “pets” who are seen to leave the reservation, and his age, possibly understandable, even if not acceptable.

Robert Sewell
September 22, 2023 3:46 pm

GreyRanga

Sep 22, 2023 1:57 PM
RS is the nasty little scenario the UN sanctoins or Luigi, Benny Wrong and co. Both!

Both, Grey Ranga.
Wherever we look in the West world today, the Communists are going all out for control.
I can’t think of one significant nation that isn’t in a top down pre revolutionary state.

Cassie of Sydney
September 22, 2023 3:47 pm

Let’s rename Karma Chameleon…….Kamahl Chameleon

“Culture Club frontman Boy George explained: “The song, Karma Chameleon, is about the terrible fear of alienation that people have, the fear of standing up for one thing. It’s about trying to suck up to everybody.”

Who knew Boy George was such an oracle about our very own Kamahl.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 22, 2023 3:47 pm

FASPTS – Failed at State Politics, Try the Senate. See also: FILTH

shatterzzz
September 22, 2023 3:47 pm

“I’m embarrassed, until Monday or Tuesday I didn’t realise they (Indigenous people) were considered not human,” he said.

I hope they paid him a lot cos no one can be that stupid for real .. can they?

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 22, 2023 3:50 pm

Kamahl seems to me to be saying that he was monstered by the YES lobby, and gave an ambiguous reason for supposedly changing, but his actual vote might be different.

Maybe so.
A fair bit less cynical.

Dot
Dot
September 22, 2023 3:53 pm

and also the return of that monumental bore Julian Assange

Assange exposed the surveillance state and born to rule deep state nepotism.

Whatever he is, he did immense good.

P
P
September 22, 2023 3:59 pm

Assad visits China.

Video (1:47) from The Australian

JC
JC
September 22, 2023 4:02 pm

And the decapitation begins.

Musk is an evil anti-Semite because the New Yorker says his grandfather was.

Cancel him!

Elon Musk’s grandfather was a pro-apartheid, antisemitic conspiracy theorist. Although his views are not Musk’s responsibility, “what would happen to those rantings, if they were posted on X today, really does lie at his doorstep,” Jill Lepore writes.

And in the New Yorker:

This month, Elon Musk threatened to sue the Anti-Defamation League, alleging that its denunciation of X—the A.D.L. had accused the social-media platform formerly known as Twitter of amplifying antisemitism—has cost Musk’s company a fortune in advertising revenue. The Anti-Defamation League, in turn, asserted that Musk’s threat was “dangerous and deeply irresponsible.” This week, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu flew to California to meet with Musk to discuss artificial intelligence, but their other much-anticipated topic was antisemitism. Netanyahu asked Musk to “stop antisemitism as best you can.” Musk, alluding to SpaceX and his hope for a mission to Mars, responded that he favors anything that “ultimately leads us to become a spacefaring civilization,” and, since hate hinders that mission, “obviously, I’m against antisemitism.”

This all unfolded amid the release of Walter Isaacson’s new biography of Musk. Musk’s family history has a bearing on the dispute, but, in the book, as I pointed out in a review, Isaacson only glancingly discusses Musk’s grandfather J. N. Haldeman, whom he presents as a risk-taking adventurer and whose politics he dismisses as “quirky.” In fact, Haldeman was a pro-apartheid, antisemitic conspiracy theorist who blamed much of what bothered him about the world on Jewish financiers.

And

Elon Musk is not responsible for the political opinions of his grandfather, who died when Musk was three years old. But

The leftist but always gives it away.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 22, 2023 4:03 pm

Assad visits China.

Poot’s diary is pretty full.

JC
JC
September 22, 2023 4:10 pm

JC
Sep 22, 2023 4:02 PM

Whoops. Source was Twitter.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 22, 2023 4:12 pm

‘Tis surely a sign of the end of days when even bartenders, accustomed to laughing uproariously at the most inane bon not delivered with the most bibulous drawl, don’t even crack a smile of obligatory indulgence.

“What would you like?”

“Might I have a nip of Aberlour?”

“Any preference for glass?”

“Bottomless?”

Actually, the build up to that reminds me of a story about the Emperor Tiberius.

In his youth, when he was just Tiberius Claudius Nero*, his reputation for drunkenness, and his belligerence when drunk, led to the nickname Biberius Caldius Mero – understood as “drinker of hot, undiluted wine”. (The Roman’s used to mix water with their wine. What? You thought all those Catholic priests were wusses?

* Nero was actually a common name. The Emperor Nero was actually born Lucius Domitius Ahenobarbus, but changed his name to Nero Claudius Caesar Drusus Germanicus. when the Emperor Claudius adopted him into the Claudian line.

JC
JC
September 22, 2023 4:15 pm

Real estate porn

Pretty incredible apartment building in Dubai.

Cheap at only US$34,500 per square meter. Just kidding.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 22, 2023 4:19 pm

Assad visits China.

Won’t help him much.

Syria On The Verge Of Collapse? (21 Sep)

Meanwhile Saudi gets their plutonium boots on.

Saudi Arabia will develop nuclear weapons if Iran gets ahold of one, Crown Prince MBS warns (20 Sep)

MENA being MENA.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 22, 2023 4:29 pm
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 22, 2023 4:31 pm

I hadn’t consciously thought that far ahead.
That’s a nasty little scenario you’ve assembled there.
Addit:
South Africa, anyone?

I’ll bet good money on that scenario.

Lee
Lee
September 22, 2023 4:32 pm

Real estate porn

Pretty incredible apartment building in Dubai.

Cheap at only US$34,500 per square meter. Just kidding.

Only 4 beds, but 6 baths?!

JC
JC
September 22, 2023 4:34 pm

Dover, the aristocrat was quite specific. He was talking about pensions. Here:

The pensions of Ukrainian police and firefighters will be paid while the pensions of their American counterparts aren’t.

This is almost the textbook definition of America Last.

Pensions aren’t shut down in a government closure. State pensions aren’t also. Unless I’m mistaken, what gets shutdown are annual appropriations and SS isn’t, as it’s paid out of the separate Trust Fund.

What could be shut down are applications for new entrants as the civil service slobs are sent home if it’s a full closure.

Robert Sewell
September 22, 2023 4:34 pm

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12547509/Covid-inquiry-Mounting-outrage-Anthony-Albaneses-refusal-hold-Royal-Commission-pandemic-fears-state-governments-let-hook.html

There is mounting outrage over Anthony Albanese’s new Covid inquiry, with critics arguing its ‘toothless and narrow’ remit will let state governments off the hook.
On Thursday morning, the Prime Minister officially announced the inquiry into the pandemic but stopped short of declaring a full Royal Commission despite previously calling for it when Labor was in Opposition.
The announcement provoked a backlash when it emerged the terms of reference outline that the ‘actions taken unilaterally by state and territory governments’ are not within the inquiry’s scope.

… critics arguing its ‘toothless and narrow’ remit will let state governments off the hook.

Of course. That’s the intent.
Too clever by half is our arrogant Luigi.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 22, 2023 4:35 pm

Pretty incredible apartment building in Dubai.

I’m not sure if I want to live in an IUD.

Johnny Rotten
September 22, 2023 4:36 pm

Meanwhile Saudi gets their plutonium boots on.

Saudi Arabia will develop nuclear weapons if Iran gets ahold of one, Crown Prince MBS warns (20 Sep)

MENA being MENA.

Join the Club.

Australia should go for Nuclear Energy and Nuclear Weapons.

Send a good message to those that envy us. IMHO.

Robert Sewell
September 22, 2023 4:42 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

Sep 22, 2023 4:31 PM
I hadn’t consciously thought that far ahead.
That’s a nasty little scenario you’ve assembled there.
Addit:
South Africa, anyone?

I’ll bet good money on that scenario.

If the UN as a proxy for China engages in the same games as they did with South Africa, the price of Aussie coal and iron ore will go through the floor.
Xi will be happy. And he will allow Luigi to kiss his feet, and perhaps his ring.

Johnny Rotten
September 22, 2023 4:43 pm

… critics arguing its ‘toothless and narrow’ remit will let state governments off the hook.

Of course. That’s the intent.
Too clever by half is our arrogant Luigi.

A ‘Clayton’s Feral Guv’ment’ holding another ‘Clayton’s Inquiry’.

shatterzzz
September 22, 2023 4:43 pm

250 pages into KL: a history of Nazi concentration camps by Nikolaus Wachsmann and starting to wish I’d never started! .. Read, probably, a coupla hundred WW2 non fiction, including maybe 2 dozen or so “Holocaust” dedicated, but definitely unprepared for the horrors this tome brings to light ..
The main impression I’m getting is that the Allies just didn’t care enuf to pursue the perpetrators of this horror into their graves! .. The reality of the farce that was the Nuremburg War Trials comes to mind .. How anyone on that stand avoided the death sentence is ridiculous .. The book leaves little doubt that they all knew what was going on! .. Speer who was deeply involved, thru his use of slave labour, from the beginning really got off scot-free with only a 20 years sentence before a lucrative career as an author should have been hanged .. Justice would have been best served if anyone apprehended wearing SS Death’s Head insignia had been shot out of hand …..
The fact that by 1948 the Allies had almost lost interest in pursuing war criminals, especially SS and by 1952 95% of all the convicted had been released shows the apathetic interest in justice for those who died horrific deaths …
The book doesn’t even reach WW2 until page 160 .. up until then the victims were primarily German citizens yet it is obvious that the general population was well aware of what was happening but chose to look the other way .. this “we didn’t know” rubbish post 1945 just doesn’t wash …
The only Nazi who, for a little while, showed some opposition to the camps was Goering but by 1936 he had realised it wasn’t a politically sane gesture and went with silence .. he wasn’t too bothered by the incarceration side but by the fact that the mounting death tolls were becoming public knowledge …..
Not a book for thr squeamish but a real eye-opener as to what really went on between 1933 and 1945 in these camps ……

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 22, 2023 4:44 pm

Only 4 beds, but 6 baths?!

The upside down pineapple on the front door is the giveaway.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 22, 2023 4:48 pm

Downtick me! Yeah!

Daddy, give me another!

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 22, 2023 4:48 pm

The leftist but always gives it away.

‘But’ is the way the left snatches tribalistic hatred from the jaws of honesty.

You know that as people read the article their chests would have tightened, their oesophaguses choked with their eown inflammation, and their eyes strained at their sockets like eggs from a chickens egg-hole, as they read all the horrors they could not actually level at Elon himself. Until the injected epipen of innuendo opened up their tissues and fresh hatred flooded their lungs.

He is as bad as they hoped after all. They can heap upon him the loathing and hate due to Nazis.

And it is masterful in its way – if they had lead with the ‘but’ bit then even the most febrile leftist would have balked at it.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 22, 2023 4:48 pm

Whoa!

Page podium!

Viva
Viva
September 22, 2023 4:51 pm

Actually, the build up to that reminds me of a story about the Emperor Tiberius.

Sorry if this has been raised before. Apparently it’s a thing that men often think about the Roman Empire (women not so much)

You tube videos showed a couple of bemused blokes being asked if this is so and were rumbled
Just asked my husband and he shot back “of course!” (Silly question)

As Dr Karl would say: “Why is this so?”

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 22, 2023 4:55 pm

Only 4 beds, but 6 baths?!

And somewhere to tie your camel in each of them. Who needs pineapples?

Lysander
Lysander
September 22, 2023 4:55 pm

Speaking of Romans, here’s a song by the Horrible Histories team that’s very funny about ‘Marcus Licinius Crassus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wINLmGb4cbM

The Horrible Histories team do a lot of funny songs about historical figures and their earlier material is not politically correct – LOL stuff. 😛

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
September 22, 2023 4:56 pm

Getting ready for start time of the Preliminary Final at the G. Pre-match drinks underway on the lounge. Like minded friends calling in soon to start the early noise.

Getting ready to mute the welcome to country shit. Remote controls – better than sliced bread.

Carna Pies!

JC
JC
September 22, 2023 4:56 pm

His point was about pensions. And no, America is not putting America last because this is a political showdown trying to prevent the ravages of the Hiden Administration.

I’m not a mind reader trying to pry out what he meant besides pensions.

Lysander
Lysander
September 22, 2023 4:58 pm

And here’s one of the funnier Horrible Histories songs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBK-Qt8edxM

Dickens.

Fittingly set to the tune of the Smiths “lord knows I’m miserable now”

Lysander
Lysander
September 22, 2023 4:59 pm

Getting ready for start time of the Preliminary Final at the G

Are all 3 GWS supporters there?

(#GoSwannies)

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 22, 2023 5:02 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCmogoGpnxg

Horrible Histories – The Tudors.

Lysander
Lysander
September 22, 2023 5:03 pm

And… (!!!) you can learn the Horrible Histories song to learn every Monarch of England in order (something I was not able to do previously):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sefbmiiyjXE

I’ll stop labouring the point now… 😛

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 22, 2023 5:04 pm

Getting ready for start time of the Preliminary Final at the G

I am cautiously optimistic, but not overly so.

The Greater Western Sydney Homos do have a certain wildcard quality, evidenced by their appearance in a prelim in the first place.

JC
JC
September 22, 2023 5:05 pm

I love the non-prediction predictions.

Make a statement inviting obvious controversy then make a prediction that people will contest the stupid comment (and why) sprinkled with obvious derision.

@MichaelPascoe01

Has any Australian-born individual done more harm to society and the environment than Rupert Murdoch?
Now watch a conga line of arse kissers compete to praise the old fake.

Pogria
Pogria
September 22, 2023 5:06 pm

Shatterzzz,
when you have finished the book, if you no longer want it, I would like to buy it from you. You can email me via Dover, thanks.
The book sounds truly a must-read.

JC
JC
September 22, 2023 5:08 pm

Another genius

Tony Windsor
@TonyHWindsor
·
10h
I watched the pain on David Marr’s face last night whilst he discussed what past generations perpetrated on Aboriginal people.Imagine what the Murdoch great grandchildren will feel when they view the history of their ancestor as they battle the Climate legacy of his preachings.

Mind you, this venom filled nutball sold his farm to fossil fuel interests.

Jorge
Jorge
September 22, 2023 5:08 pm

The Religion & Ethics Report on RN today looked at Malaysia and the increasing likelihood it will become an Islamic state, with Islam the State religion.

This will make it illegal to apostatise. If planning to marry a Muslim, non Muslims will be required to convert. Going the other direction not permitted.

A number of non Muslims have fled, quite a few to Australia.

It all sounded rather ominous. Sarawak and Sabah holding out for now.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 22, 2023 5:10 pm

As Dr Karl would say: “Why is this so?”

I’d like to see him against Tony Heller. Heller has photographic memory and would reduce Karl to a mess within 5 minutes.

He’s a gutless piece of sh*t. Only dickheads follow him. People that watch the ABC in essence.

Lysander
Lysander
September 22, 2023 5:13 pm

Jorge – I know a Catholic priest who has been “on mission” in Malaysia for some years now. They have to celebrate mass in private spaces without anyone outside knowing and you’re certainly not allowed to invite anyone in – but some people still turn up. It’s been this way for 10+ years now… but by what you say, it may be getting worse…

Dot
Dot
September 22, 2023 5:13 pm

Join the Club.

Australia should go for Nuclear Energy and Nuclear Weapons.

Send a good message to those that envy us. IMHO.

We literally started in the 1950s and 1960s but lost our nerve.

Howard could have built 30 nuke reactors with his double majority but he flubbed it and passed it off to a blue ribbon report.

Pogria
Pogria
September 22, 2023 5:13 pm

Here’s a new angle on why she’s voting NO from another rent-seeker;

An Aboriginal woman has explained why she is voting no on the Indigenous Voice to Parliament – saying she believes only First Nations people should be allowed to vote in the referendum.

Author, actor and activist Natasha Wanganeen told NITV she is part of the Aboriginal sovereignty movement which she said is the ‘other side of the no campaign… that has been hijacked massively’.

‘My whole stance on this is that as less than 3 per cent of the population, I don’t think it’s right that the other 97 per cent are going to vote on us. I think that’s racist,’ she said.

‘I think it’s not respectful considering everything we’ve gone through as a people in this country ‘

The whole article in the Mail.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 22, 2023 5:14 pm

The NT News:

Thousands of Territory cattle are still at the mercy of Indonesia’s lumpy skin disease ban

Szubanski was unavailable for comment.

A nation holds its breath.

Black Ball
Black Ball
September 22, 2023 5:14 pm

The very people it’s purported to assist. Daily Telegraph:

The sacred rock Uluru has been invoked as the birthplace of the upcoming referendum but here — in the heart of the nation — some locals say they don’t know what the vote is all about or have any knowledge of the proposed Voice to Parliament.

The Daily Telegraph travelled to Yulara, the tiny resort town beside Uluru, to ask locals from the nearby Aboriginal towns like Imanpa and Mutitjulu for their views on the referendum.

It was here, after all, that a convention of Indigenous leaders met in 2017 and signed the Uluru Statement from the Heart which called for a Voice to Parliament.

Access to Indigenous locals was limited — in some cases barred completely — by multiple layers of bureaucracy.

But The Telegraph did meet a dozen Aboriginal community members over a number of days, like Mutitjulu couple Jefferey Curtis and Evelyn Aiken, who were not aware of the Voice or the Uluru Statement from the Heart.

“We don’t know (what it is),” Ms Aiken said.

Asked if she recalled the 2017 meeting, she said “I don’t remember that”.

They said the chair of their community’s management committee may know more.

When attempts were made to contact the board, The Telegraph was told the chair was on leave and no other members were available to speak.

Media are also banned from entering the Mutitjulu township without being granted a permit, which could not be given until the committee met again next month, just prior to the referendum.

Mutitjulu’s traditional owner Sammy Wilson has previously said he supports the Voice, but others from the region like elder Murray George have opposed the statement and its proposed Voice.

Underneath the squabbles from the community’s more senior members, the Telegraph discovered the sentiment was not of support or opposition — it was apathy.

Two other women from Mutitjulu, who did not wish to give their names, did not recognise the proposal of a Voice, with one asking “where is it happening?”

Nor did they recall the statement signed in 2017 calling for a Voice, a truth-telling commission and a First Nations treaty.

Four residents from the town of Imanpa said they did not even recognise the concept of a Voice to Parliament. “We don’t know. What is that?” one resident said.

Mike Tucker, who is the principal of the independent school Nyangatjatjara College, said there had been limited exposure to the referendum debate in the region.

“We have done some classroom work talking about both sides of the argument but we don’t necessarily get involved with it in a political sense,” he said.

“Our exposure is quite limited here, in as much as there is plenty of stuff on the television but if you don’t have a television or watch it, you won’t see a whole lot on it.”

However, Mr Tucker said local groups like Empowered Communities, NPY Women’s Council and the Central Land Council had promoted a Yes vote.

NPY Women’s Council said there were currently 100 women meeting in Pipalyatjara near the tri-state border, who recently unanimously supported the Voice proposal with a resounding Yes, or “Uwa” in the local language.

Empowered Communities said they had held numerous community meetings and made presentations to community leaders, including in Mutitjulu, Imanpa and Finke.

Central Land Council Chief Executive Les Turner said: “Since early May our Voice team have held 72 information meetings about the voice across the southern half of the Northern Territory, attended by around 2300 people, including traditional owners of the Uluru Kata-Tjuta National Park.”

However, a spokesperson for the powerful Ayres Rock Resort, which owns and operates the entire town of Yulara, told The Telegraph they could not speak on the referendum issue and neither could resort staff.

Less than a month out from the referendum, there was no mention of the Voice to Parliament at the resort’s many public venues.

In fact, the extent of the referendum’s promotion at Central Australia’s iconic holiday town was one tourist wearing a Yes T-shirt.

Indigenous woman Margaret Geebung moved from Brisbane to work at the Erldundna Roadhouse, about two hours from Uluru, and does not support the Voice.

The Telegraph witnessed her asking Indigenous customers — as she often does — for their opinion on the referendum and none knew what it was.

“I think really it’s a load of crap. We have people already in parliament, we already have someone to talk for us but it’s not going to give us what we want, the treaty,” she said.

“I get a lot of locals, a lot that come through here … a lot of them don’t even have proper living quarters, you know. Where they are, they don’t even have proper water supply.

“A lot of locals don’t know what it is.”

Ms Geebung wanted Australians to understand the true history of First Nations people and for a treaty to be signed, but does not believe the Voice would achieve that outcome.

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese has repeatedly refused to be drawn into whether a Voice would result in a First Nations treaty and the truth-telling Makarata Commission, but the government has said it is committed to implementing the Uluru Statement from the Heart in full — which includes both the elements Ms Geebung is calling for

But she remains unconvinced about the referendum.

“It’s all just for the government. It’s going to separate the Indigenous to the non-Indigenous, it really is,” she said.

Non-Indigenous locals who had lived in the area for years told The Telegraph they feared the Voice would split the community. Speaking anonymously, fearing repercussions from local authorities, one local said the impact of the Voice in Central Australia would be “divisive”, while another said it would add another layer of bureaucracy in a part of the country where land councils and other bodies already took weeks and months to process decisions.

I wonder if Ms Geebung plays polo. I will see myself out.

Dot
Dot
September 22, 2023 5:15 pm

Ukraine is possibly better governed than the United States, at least Federally.

Diogenes
Diogenes
September 22, 2023 5:15 pm

Got to love Aussie Post. It took 12 hours for one of my parcels to get from Mayfield(Newcastle) to Brisbane Airport, where it has remained recovering from its flight (arrived 3am this morning) before making the 1.5 hour trip to the Nambour mail centre.

Sigh

JC
JC
September 22, 2023 5:15 pm

No, his point is about America Last.

Really, I read the comment and he specifically used the pension example

He’s not making a statement about the shut-down, but about the DoD’s spdecision to continue funding civil service salaries in Ukraine even if US civil servants are furlough.

It’s all about the shutdown otherwise, how would American pensions be threatened, if it wasn’t so?

You don’t need to read his mind, you just have to read what he said.

I most certainty am not reading his mind.

Mentioning he pensions of police and firefighters was merely to illustrate his point about America Last.

American pensions aren’t being threatened by the close down. Us SS recipients are fine. 🙂

Dot
Dot
September 22, 2023 5:16 pm

He’s a gutless piece of sh*t. Only dickheads follow him. People that watch the ABC in essence.

Have you stopped raging at “people who walk to the shops each day”?

WTF was that about ?

Dot
Dot
September 22, 2023 5:18 pm

The Greater Western Sydney Homos

Did Adam Eget write this joke?

It has nothing on the Sydney Mancravers.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 22, 2023 5:20 pm

From the Hun – sadly missed.

Police & Courts38 minutes ago
‘Justice has been served’: Locals won’t shed tears over thug’s fate

Shepparton residents say their town is a better and safer place after fugitive Stanley Turvey was shot and killed in a standoff with police.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 22, 2023 5:20 pm

Dot
Sep 22, 2023 5:16 PM

Wake up retard.

JMH
JMH
September 22, 2023 5:21 pm

“‘My whole stance on this is that as less than 3 per cent of the population, I don’t think it’s right that the other 97 per cent are going to vote on us. I think that’s racist,’ she said.

The Constitution belongs to all of us, you stupid bint! Here’s a ‘heads-up’. I will be voting NO to save this bloody country.

Viva
Viva
September 22, 2023 5:23 pm

He’s a gutless piece of sh*t.

Gee Steve I didn’t mean to trigger you by quoting Dr Karl lol

Relax and think about the Roman Empire

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 22, 2023 5:25 pm

Dot:

Stew Peters is controlled opposition

F*ckwit! Go watch Sky News.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 22, 2023 5:26 pm

Have you stopped raging at “people who walk to the shops each day”?

Obviously not, but a fair point. How are they supposed to get to the shops?

Drive? Uber? Hovercraft? DEW drone?

Or is the point that people shouldn’t go to the shops at all? If this is the case, Stevie T is almost certainly some sort of communist.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 22, 2023 5:27 pm

I wonder if Ms Geebung plays polo. I will see myself out.

Spell “Excruciating!”

calli
calli
September 22, 2023 5:28 pm

Why is this so? – Julius Sumner Miller

Dr Karl – wearer of loud shirts

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 22, 2023 5:28 pm

Dot
Sep 22, 2023 5:16 PM

You are a MSM consuming Sheep.

Dot
Dot
September 22, 2023 5:29 pm

Steve trickler
Sep 22, 2023 5:20 PM
Dot
Sep 22, 2023 5:16 PM

Wake up retard.

Please let me at least understand why you’re so damned angry about this!

Early morning walks!?

?

Viva
Viva
September 22, 2023 5:30 pm

Thanks Calli!

See Steve. It was Sumner Miller!

I am absolved!

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 22, 2023 5:31 pm

Next up on the Stew Peters Show:

I’m joined by Associate Doctor Julian Knight to discuss whether or not people should go to the shops. After that Emeritus Scientician Harold Scruby drops by to talk about whether the shops are a WEF construct developed by Klaus to enslave us all.

Subscribe now!

Lee
Lee
September 22, 2023 5:31 pm

“‘My whole stance on this is that as less than 3 per cent of the population, I don’t think it’s right that the other 97 per cent are going to vote on us. I think that’s racist,’ she said.

But you’re quite happy to accept many billions from the 97% every year.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 22, 2023 5:32 pm

Have you stopped raging at “people who walk to the shops each day”?

This isn’t one of those trucks v trains trick questions is it?

calli
calli
September 22, 2023 5:32 pm

An Aboriginal woman has explained why she is voting no on the Indigenous Voice to Parliament – saying she believes only First Nations people should be allowed to vote in the referendum.

Then it isn’t a referendum, dummy.

But do vote “No”. Every one helps, even the stupid ones.

Dot
Dot
September 22, 2023 5:33 pm

You are a MSM consuming Sheep.

I’m not.

A lot of the You Tube channels I follow/ed have been banished to the nether world.

Why do you persist with this crap because I don’t follow some REALLY dumb conspiracy theories?

Why not go full ham and just commit to Project Blue Beam, the elite are reptoids and 10 million kids in tunnels under Australia?

JMH
JMH
September 22, 2023 5:34 pm

Dr Karl – wearer of loud shirts

and a weapons grade climate retard.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 22, 2023 5:34 pm

It looks like either or both of the fat fascist fool mUnty and Dick Ed Case are hitting the Thumb Down symbol at every possible opportunity.

calli
calli
September 22, 2023 5:34 pm

I am absolved!

Chuckle. Bless you my little boiled egg seeking a haven in a vacumm-ed milk bottle!

JC
JC
September 22, 2023 5:35 pm

10 million kids in tunnels under Australia?

Seriously, I never knew that.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 22, 2023 5:35 pm

On the Indigenous voice to parliament, I was tremendously naive
nikki gemmell nikki gemmell
I assumed the referendum would bring Australia together, in joy and healing, writes Nikki Gemmell. Picture: AFP

The Weekend Australian Magazine
1:00PM September 22, 2023
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We remember emotions. How a book, a film, a sporting event, a political moment makes us feel, long after the details have faded. For the potency of emotion is barnacled in memory. I’ll remember forever how I felt when Cortnee Vine shot her winning penalty in the Matildas/France World Cup match, and I know I’ll remember forever how I will feel when the vote for an Indigenous voice to parliament is declared. Win or lose.

Once upon a time I was tremendously naive. I assumed the Voice would bring Australia together, in joy and healing; that it would mark a new waypoint of maturity in the evolution of our nation. In simpler times I dreamed that the vision of an advisory body on Indigenous affairs, painstakingly devised over 15 long years, would be agreed to, and a new era of nationhood would be ushered in.

The proposal felt necessary, suturing, for all of us. It felt like a proposal that went some way towards lifting the corrosive weight of past wrongs. Considered and careful, it seemed a simple request: for an Indigenous committee to be able to advise parliament on Indigenous issues, without being able to make laws or control funding. Yet what a sour-spirited campaign we’ve seen from the forces determined to scupper this vision.
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One of the scupperers-in-chief, Peter Dutton. How will you feel about him, the day after the October 14 referendum? How will he go down in history? We will remember our feelings about him long after the specifics of the campaign have faded. We know, ultimately, he wants to be prime minister. So, saviour of the people – or master wrecker?

Politics is reductive. The individual gets de-coloured, rendered in monotone; reduced to a few distinct traits. If Australia votes No there’ll be an easy label to stick to Mr Dutton, by his opponents and a swathe of voters he’s trying to win over to reach his ultimate goal of the Lodge. He’ll henceforth be known, by quite a few, as the man who killed the referendum. Many from the political party Dutton leads have used all the tricks in the political playbook to divide, confuse and confound; and he will not be forgiven in moderate Liberal heartlands if the Voice is lost.

Dutton’s modus operandi feels like it has hardened into a stance of saying no, to just about anything proposed by Labor, including a cheeky suggestion for a public holiday if the Matildas won the World Cup. That rode the mood of a nation, but no surrender from the opposition leader to the national tone.

That stance of wilful negativity will be an easy slogan for opposing parties in future election campaigns, an energising gift to those forces. The reductive perception: Dutton has muddied the voice argument in order to damage the Prime Minister, and the Liberal leader’s relentless negativity for negativity’s sake won’t be forgiven by a swathe of people he’s seeking to win over to gain the keys to the Lodge.

More than 80 per cent of Indigenous people support this voice proposal. The idea came directly from Aboriginal communities, not politicians. I cannot imagine the broken hearts among many of them if this proposal isn’t carried; it would feel like a soul blow, along with all the other soul blows over generations, that would reverberate for years to come.

Once I dreamt of a feeling of great national pride, and relief, following a successful vote for the Voice. Now I worry there’ll be despair and disbelief among many, that in the end it came to this. And anger. Towards one of its scupperers-in-chief most of all. I feel certain Mr Dutton will never become prime minister if the No vote prevails. Be careful what you wish for, sir. The feeling towards you will linger, long after the specifics have faded.

calli
calli
September 22, 2023 5:37 pm

Yikes! That was vacuumed.

No wonder I got a server error.

Aaron
Aaron
September 22, 2023 5:37 pm

‘My whole stance on this is that as less than 3 per cent of the population, I don’t think it’s right that the other 97 per cent are going to vote on us. I think that’s racist,’ she said.

The Greens are expected to follow suit announcing that normal should not be allowed to vote.

Dot
Dot
September 22, 2023 5:38 pm

The more you know, JC.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 22, 2023 5:40 pm

Thousands of Territory cattle are still at the mercy of Indonesia’s lumpy skin disease ban

Let them eat pork.

Indonesia jails Muslim woman for eating pork on TikTok (22 Sep)

Ok, let them not eat pork then. Lamb? Rabbit? We have lots of rabbits.

JC
JC
September 22, 2023 5:41 pm

Kez,

This isn’t an attempt to get you raging. Do you still think the YES will take this out for a win?

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 22, 2023 5:41 pm

Yellow card for posting Nikki Gemmel. Links only please. That is literally like treading in dogsh1t.

Dot
Dot
September 22, 2023 5:42 pm

Stew Peters is controlled opposition

He probably is. He’s very stupid.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
September 22, 2023 5:42 pm

Hahaha – in the Oz The Mocker (who I consider a bit of a lefty) gives Perfesser Megan Davis a fair old slapping about her whingeing about da InVoice….. an extract..

Being pampered and feted also leads to entitlement and arrogance, as Davis has demonstrated with her recent tantrum. Contrary to her expectations, many Australians are not persuaded by platitudes or emotional hectoring. If she is to convince the undecided that the Constitution should be changed, she must employ logic to stress the connection between the proposal and the outcome.

She cannot achieve this by angrily blaming the other side and the media for the Yes campaign’s shortcomings. To put it bluntly, Davis needs to behave more like a professor and less like a princess.

The large lass seems to dislike being out of the comfort zone.

Lysander
Lysander
September 22, 2023 5:43 pm

Dr Karl – wearer of loud shirts

Charger of $10,000 per hour for “talks”

Dot
Dot
September 22, 2023 5:44 pm

Can someone explain to my why “walking to the shops each day” is an insult?

???

Lysander
Lysander
September 22, 2023 5:44 pm

Here ya go Dot (a new “fix” for you):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4Q0ZaAh4rQ

Sam Newman talks to the Real Ruskan. Entertaining Sam as always, hardly PC, never was, never will be.

JC
JC
September 22, 2023 5:48 pm

Pork

Cernovich got me off pork a while ago – not completely off but enough to get into a 24 hour guilt trip the two times since it’s sitting in a plate. He reckons pigs have an equal emotional IQ to dogs and asked people if they would eat dogs. He reckons pigs, like dogs know when their lives are endangered. That’s a downer for me.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
September 22, 2023 5:48 pm

I always thought it was Julius Sumner Miller that said ” why is this so”. Or am I misremembering?

JC
JC
September 22, 2023 5:49 pm

Dot
Sep 22, 2023 5:44 PM

Can someone explain to my why “walking to the shops each day” is an insult?

Is walking to the restaurant for dins not good, because I’ll be doing that soon. Should I drive?

cohenite
September 22, 2023 5:51 pm

@MichaelPascoe01

Has any Australian-born individual done more harm to society and the environment than Rupert Murdoch?
Now watch a conga line of arse kissers compete to praise the old fake.

HP, I hope you went onto this pascoe bastard’s site and called him for what he is: a snot nosed, arse dribbling leftie who in a just world would succumb to scurvy and a virulent STD.

Speedbox
September 22, 2023 5:51 pm

Diogenes
Sep 22, 2023 5:15 PM
Got to love Aussie Post. It took 12 hours for one of my parcels to get from Mayfield(Newcastle) to Brisbane Airport, where it has remained recovering from its flight (arrived 3am this morning) before making the 1.5 hour trip to the Nambour mail centre.
Sigh

By comparison, on Tuesday Mrs Speedbox ordered an item on-line from a retailer in Japan. It was delivered by DHL at 11:05am this morning. Less than 72 hours elapsed time – Japan to our residential door in Brisbane metro area.

(And the cost of postage was very reasonable.)

Lee
Lee
September 22, 2023 5:51 pm

More than 80 per cent of Indigenous people support this voice proposal. The idea came directly from Aboriginal communities, not politicians.

I am betting that Nikki Gemmell’s first sentence is a flat-out lie (it sounds suspiciously similar to an Albo statement that was debunked), and the second sentence very dubious, unless by “Aboriginal communities” she means activists or elitists like Langton, Burney and Davis.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 22, 2023 5:53 pm

Knuckle Dragger
Sep 22, 2023 5:26 PM
Have you stopped raging at “people who walk to the shops each day”?

Obviously not, but a fair point. How are they supposed to get to the shops?

Drive? Uber? Hovercraft? DEW drone?

Or is the point that people shouldn’t go to the shops at all? If this is the case, Stevie T is almost certainly some sort of communist.

Th people who buy the newspaper everyday are sheep. F-wits who watch the 6pm news.

Knuckle Draggers!

Viva
Viva
September 22, 2023 5:54 pm

I always thought it was Julius Sumner Miller that said ” why is this so”. Or am I misremembering?

You are right. Calli set the record straight up thread

I’m the one who misremembered

JMH
JMH
September 22, 2023 5:56 pm

Sam Newman talks to the Real Ruskan. Entertaining Sam as always, hardly PC, never was, never will be.

Excellent. Sam is usually well over the target. Watched the interview and loved it. Poor 3AW didn’t know how to deal with him – but the callers did. All (that I heard) were on Sam’s side.

Barry
Barry
September 22, 2023 5:56 pm

50 years ago, Sam Newman’s views would have been the entirely conventional views of 75% of the population. All the blokes and 1/2 the women.

Most of what he says is logical and follows from easily observable behaviours.

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 22, 2023 5:57 pm

shatterzzz, you probably don’t want to go on, but Hitler’s Willing Executioners, by Daniel Goldhagen is likely just as good a read.

Ian Kershaw’s two volume biography of Hitler shows up the same revelation: that everyone in power once Hitler got in permanently – and those who wanted to join in – went along with the whole Holocaust idea.

One aspect of bringing them to account though, was that the destruction of Germany, and the coming winter from mid-45, meant that a lot of the minor criminals were left in place to ensure the whole country didn’t get wiped out completely.

wivenhoe
wivenhoe
September 22, 2023 5:57 pm

Calli, please, you cannot create a vacuum, atmospheric pressure does the work.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 22, 2023 5:58 pm

@MichaelPascoe01

Has any Australian-born individual done more harm to society and the environment than Rupert Murdoch?

Um, Michael Pascoe? And about ten thousand of his fellow leftie Aussie journos.

Amusing that the Left was all in on save the whales in the seventies, now they’re all in on kill the whales for holy wind farms. Someone should ask Mr Pascoe about this dissonance.

Morsie
Morsie
September 22, 2023 6:02 pm

Jorge Sabah is much more Muslim than Sarawak.
Sarawak is still about 50 percent Christian.However this will nit last long as the Muslims have way more kids.
It’s sort of creeping Islamisation just baby steps like the Malay girls wearing a tudung and not going to bars.
There us also an Arabisation of the Malay language.
More disturbingly when we lived in Sarawak ,up till 2017 a couple of Christian ministers were kidnapped never to be seen again.
It’s unrelenting.
All the Chinese who can will get out eventually.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 22, 2023 6:02 pm

Rupe always get the Lefty Pavlovian dog’s salivating. Even at 90 with over 20 years since a baton charge on the wukkas.

calli
calli
September 22, 2023 6:04 pm

Wivenhoe, the way we did it at school, the “vacuum” was created by a lit match in the bottle. Burn off the oxygen and the egg slips through.

Physics fun stuff.

And then we progressed to chemistry and bunsen burners…

Dot
Dot
September 22, 2023 6:05 pm

Th people who buy the newspaper everyday are sheep. F-wits who watch the 6pm news.

Um champ, consuming media doesn’t necessitate agreeing with the media.

You don’t need to be paranoid and believe the most absurd theories to discern
that the media gaslights us and is heavily influenced by government propaganda.

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 22, 2023 6:08 pm

Zombie Land…

With the highest level of heroin, ketamine and fentanyl consumption in all of Australia, this city is fast descending into a drug hellscape reminiscent of the worst excesses of America’s narcotics epidemic, as seen on the streets of San Francisco and Philadelphia. And a proposed move from a local council will only make the situation worse, local residents fear.

Daily Mail

Dot
Dot
September 22, 2023 6:10 pm

The case for de-Federation.

John Ruddick in the NSW LC.

Riverina nearly was independent by a coup, WA has desired to secede and New England almost became its own State.

I am for a confederation. COVID really did show Federation was not working well!

JC
JC
September 22, 2023 6:11 pm

HP, I hope you went onto this pascoe bastard’s site and called him for what he is: a snot nosed, arse dribbling leftie who in a just world would succumb to scurvy and a virulent STD.

I think he was some sort of business writer at Fairfax and got the size 10 sometime ago. You can see why.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 22, 2023 6:12 pm

egg

Vale Julius Sumner-Miller

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rgyc0hynJQw

Cadbury’s chocolate is nice too

Cassie of Sydney
September 22, 2023 6:12 pm

“Cernovich got me off pork a while ago – not completely off but enough to get into a 24 hour guilt trip the two times since it’s sitting in a plate. He reckons pigs have an equal emotional IQ to dogs and asked people if they would eat dogs. He reckons pigs, like dogs know when their lives are endangered. That’s a downer for me.”

Unsurprising. I think pigs might be even more intelligent than dogs. But anyway, whilst I’m a carnivore (I particularly love lamb and beef), I’m not unsympathetic to vegetarianism, however I have zero sympathy for vegans.

Cassie of Sydney
September 22, 2023 6:15 pm

I have a cousin who had lunch with Ruperdink earlier this year. My cousin told my mother that he’s lonely. Ruperdink needs a women, especially now that he’s retired.

I personally think Lachlan will make a very good head of News Corp.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 22, 2023 6:16 pm

Cheap at only US$34,500 per square meter. Just kidding.

A place in Rose Bay went for 140k per square meter 18 months ago.

Lee
Lee
September 22, 2023 6:17 pm

Attacking farming. I repeat, he is EVIL.

Bill Gates speaks out on major overlooked contributor to Earth’s overheating: ‘The one that people are probably least aware of’

The arsehole never has to worry about where his next meal is coming from.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 22, 2023 6:18 pm

The proles aren’t listening to our propaganda! How can they be this ignorant?

The Yes campaign’s ad campaign using John Farnham’s iconic hit song ‘You’re the Voice’ is backfiring, new research has found (Sky News, 22 Sep)

New research shows the “You’re the Voice” ad campaign is entrenching opposition among No voters and failing to persuade people who are undecided on the Voice to Parliament.

Voters are equipped with exquisitely sensitive bullshit detectors.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 22, 2023 6:18 pm

An Aboriginal woman has explained why she is voting no on the Indigenous Voice to Parliament – saying she believes only First Nations people should be allowed to vote in the referendum.

No idea who this woman is, but maybe her instinct is that real Aborigines don’t give a constipated rat’s clacker for the nonsense – most supporters are white.

She may simply be unaware of how many ‘Aborigines’ are urban whites who have learned to game bad laws.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 22, 2023 6:19 pm

Social media says this Mayo chap isn’t indigenous Australian.
His father is from somewhere to our north.

Cassie of Sydney
September 22, 2023 6:19 pm

And just to reiterate, Lachlan is no leftist.

Rupert’s personal intervention in terminating Tucker was unusual, it came on the heels of the Dominion court case.

JMH
JMH
September 22, 2023 6:22 pm

Cadbury’s chocolate is nice t

oo

Do check country of manufacture before you put Cadbury’s in your mouth!

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 22, 2023 6:34 pm

Social media says this Mayo chap isn’t indigenous Australian.
His father is from somewhere to our north.

Dark Emu Exposed did some digging – Mayo (who changed his surname) has described his father Celestino Mayor as a Torres Strait Islander of Filipino and Dayak (Borneo) ancestry, and his mother Liz as of Polish, Jewish and English ancestry.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 22, 2023 6:35 pm

It’s a tribute to how ghastly the state of the rest of the planet is right now that the place where most millionaires and billionaires are fleeing to is Australia.

Mapping The Migration Of The World’s Millionaires In 2023 (22 Sep)

If I were you I wouldn’t be coming here. You will be fleeced.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 22, 2023 6:37 pm

Do check country of manufacture before you put Cadbury’s in your mouth!

I’ve played the Cadbury factory golf course in Tassie, it’s pretty good.
That was then though, about the same time as the famous ad.
So your point has some merit.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
September 22, 2023 6:39 pm

Many of the Aboriginals who are No supporters are actually ones who want to go further than the Voice. They want their own nations and control of own lands.

They know they won’t be represented by the 24 of the Voice. Even Warren Mundine has pointed out the Voice is a plan to over ride the powers of the land councils.

There is a competition between a treaty done by the Voice and all the many state treaties. They are fighting over who gets the power.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
September 22, 2023 6:42 pm

Here you go Zulu, was thinking same.

https://www.dark-emu-exposed.org/home/thomas-and-me-part-1

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 22, 2023 6:44 pm

Here you go Zulu, was thinking same.

Great minds, Rockdoctor, great minds!

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