Open Thread – Weekend 23 Sept 2023


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Cassie of Sydney
September 24, 2023 7:46 am

“Also, don’t fear stating the bleedin’ obvious. Sometimes the obvious needs an airing, once all the gaslighting and bullsh*t is discussed, dismembered and reassembled.”

Yes but we live in a post “bleedin’ obvious” world.

Dot
Dot
September 24, 2023 7:47 am

So wow, thanks Cassie.

Abolishing excise taxes, cutting government spending, curbing inflation, nuclear power and abolishing stamp duty would be a winner.

Maybe people are being mugged by reality again.

calli
calli
September 24, 2023 7:51 am

Yes but we live in a post “bleedin’ obvious” world.

That’s why we need to say it.

I was attempting to encourage Foxbody to comment more, and anyone else who lurks – speak up. The worst thing that can happen is that you’ll be ignored.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
September 24, 2023 7:57 am

132andbush, I reckon you could start your own grifting consultancy.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 24, 2023 7:59 am

Did I read up thread that the Melbourne Neo-Nazis put in another appearance at the No rally?

Cassie of Sydney
September 24, 2023 7:59 am

Maybe people are being mugged by reality again.

Which a focused Liberal Party should be able to tap into.

Taking out the Teal seats (and I believe most will be returned to the Liberal fold) most of the electorates won by Labor in May of last year are marginal and these electorates, such as Bennelong, Parramatta, Aston and others could easily be won back by the Liberals, however it remains to be scene whether they can get their act together and get in with early pre-selections, particularly here in NSW.

Also, they need to take off the kid gloves, put on the boxing gloves and punch back hard. There must be no “civility” towards the left, when are the left civil towards the right? NO, you go for the jugular.

Cassie of Sydney
September 24, 2023 8:01 am

I was attempting to encourage Foxbody to comment more, and anyone else who lurks – speak up. The worst thing that can happen is that you’ll be ignored.”

Agree 100%. Speak Foxbody, speak.

Although calli, some lurkers are better off staying in the shadows……lurking

Black Ball
Black Ball
September 24, 2023 8:02 am

Piers Akerman:

Reality has struck energy-pressed governments everywhere in the real world, but not in Labor’s progressive la-la land.

On its net-zero energy policy, Australia is as isolated as it was when it broke from Gondwanaland 200 million years ago. Britain is the latest European nation to roll back ambitious Green-Left emission measures in the face of energy shortfalls and rising power costs.

UK Prime Minister Rishi Sunak has rolled back a ban on sales of new petrol and diesel cars from 2030 to 2035, applied the brakes to plans to phase out gas boilers, and rejected calls to hit homeowners with further regulations on energy efficiency. He’s stepped up plans to develop oil and gas projects in the North Sea and drill for fossil fuels and lifted a ban on onshore wind developments that had been blocked by NIMBY protesters.

Yet, just two years ago, the UK hosted the COP26 conference and was praised by the environmental movement as a leader in the fight against the climate “crisis”. The climate activists are spewing. For far too long they crippled the British energy sector and disrupted the population with bizarre stunts to capture the headlines and TV news.

Gluing themselves to roads and artworks, screeching false claims the world was facing an emergency, that the human race faced extinction – and now their bluff has been called.

The UK is not alone in winding back the lunatic green agenda. The new Swedish government spent its first 100 days unwinding environmental regulation and slashing funding to climate-change policies, says the progressive Left Green European Journal.

It quickly changed the name of the Ministry of Environment to the Ministry of Climate and Enterprise, prioritising a reduction in diesel and petrol prices. It’s also reducing the climate and the environment budget by 58 per cent over the next three years and is building nuclear power plants. Having paid nearly $2.50 a litre for standard unleaded petrol on Saturday, I say we need some of whatever is driving the Swedish government now.

Our Climate Change and Energy Minister Chris “Blackouts” Bowen has his eyes and ears closed to the prospect of nuclear energy. On the ABC’s Q+A on Monday, he was made to look foolish by year 11 student Will Shackel, 17, who calmly asked why the government didn’t let the markets decide whether wind and solar were more affordable and more reliable than nuclear power.

Shackel said the easiest way to do this would be to lift the ban on nuclear power – a fact that puts the AUKUS agreement to service and build a nuclear-powered submarine fleet in Australia in a strange position.

Shackel outshone all but one of his fellow panellists, who were (apart from Bowen) vacuous teal MP Allegra Spender and economist and Climate Council member Nikki Hutley. The only other non-Green-Left was opposition climate and energy spokesman Ted O’Brien, who believes nuclear energy has a place in the mix.

Bowen, who is solely reliant on ideology and who refuses to acknowledge the claim the CSIRO report he frequently refers to is misleading, dismisses nuclear power: “We don’t have a nuclear industry in Australia, so we’d be starting from scratch.”

Yet we do have a successful nuclear industry in Sydney’s Lucas Heights, and every other OECD nation uses nuclear power. Eminent climate change authority Professor Ian Plimer, a favourite of the late Duke of Edinburgh, has published three handbooks on climate change.

He calls them his Little Green Book series and they’re available from Connor Court publishing.

Prince Philip asked Plimer “when will commonsense and good science prevail and what happens if it does not fairly soon?” Plimer sets out his answer in these books and I commend them to Bowen.

Black Ball
Black Ball
September 24, 2023 8:05 am

Apparently Mother Lode:

There have been wild scenes in Melbourne as thousands turned out across the country, including known neo-Nazi groups, in support of the No campaign ahead of the Voice referendum.

In Melbourne, one group of protesters with the National Socialist Network attempted to join the main rally, brandishing a banner reading “Voice = Anti-White”.

They were ejected from the steps of Parliament House by police, with one member of the group pepper-sprayed.

Mak Siccar
Mak Siccar
September 24, 2023 8:07 am

The damage to our nation caused by this referendum, I fear, is irreparable. The ‘No’ voters must be vigilant that, after (I hope) a crushing defeat of the Screech referendum, the Uniparty does not ignore the clear wishes of the people and introduce an equivalent of the Screech, either by legislation or by stealth.

https://www.spectator.com.au/2023/09/the-voice-of-unreason-no-easy-way-out-of-this-mess/

My bolding.

The Voice of unreason: no easy way out of this mess

Benjamin Crocker
24 September 2023

The Voice will likely fail. Possibly at referendum, but, if it succeeds at clearing that hurdle, it will fail in meeting its objectives.

What are its objectives? Ostensibly, its advocates say, to improve the lives of our Indigenous brothers and sisters, harmonising long-strained race relations, and paying due respect to the lineage of ancestry present in current-day Aboriginal people.

Conversely, and subversively – its opponents say – it seeks to upend the Constitutional order, to entrench racial prejudice within our governing apparatus, and to pave the way for the rise of a vindictive, self-loathing national identity – one that hates its British heritage, and the commensurate promulgation of a Western legal ethos.

‘The Voice’ as it appears in our national story, is a fatefully tossed coin – a national bet of sorts, flipping haphazardly through the air. It seems, from outward appearances, to be falling toward a neutral position. But the wager is fallacious. When it lands on October 14, pushed one way or another by the tempest winds of rancorous debate, we stand poised to win no benefit and to discover no great national fortune.

If either side sincerely believes our country is headed for a better future should their argument prevail at the referendum, then they are sorely deluded. This referendum, and the prevailing national psyche that birthed it, offer only a lose-lose scenario for Australia.

I am sympathetic to the ‘No’ case. Their retort to the ‘Yes’ camp – that it rests on a bed of emotional irrationality born of grievance and historical revisionism – is a well-founded one. The ‘Yes’ campaign has failed to conduct a rational exposition of its position. Their messaging stops at the gates of reason, and retreats always into platitudes of national atonement. The emotional response is their stock in trade. Their strategy is not to explain, but to conflate. ‘Yes’ to a complex, vague, and experimental constitutional proposal, has been abstracted into meaning ‘Yes’ to the binary question of whether or not we should want to improve the lives of Aboriginal people.

This is a laudably simple political strategy. But the consequences, were it to succeed, would be anything but. The ‘Yes’ camp has set up its constituent voters to expect a magic-pudding-like rise in spiritual and material circumstances for Indigenous people. If one is under any illusions as to the veracity of this claim, then witness the ecstatic contortions leading proponents performed in explaining that yes, actually, the mere addition of a pop song to the national discourse was the true game-changer in the debate.

Consider the scenario where on the back of this emotionally-driven argument, the Voice succeeds in passing at referendum. The advisory body is set up, and the ‘third chamber’ (to use now-advocate Malcolm Turnbull’s terminology) swings into action. What next? The Voice isn’t going to solve problems in the manner the campaign suggests it will. What will advocates do when issues manifesting as policy problems at the most local level simply can’t be solved by a national body? Whatever pretensions to ‘grassroots’ DNA the voice is purported to hold, it will be instantiated as a national, nay, constitutional body. How will competing factions reconcile within a wholly new national body, let alone cope with the complexity of challenges posed by a diverse indigenous polity that is far from monolithic in both its needs and worldview? The ‘Yes’ side, were it to succeed, has so dumbed down the rational exposition of its position, it will never be able to deliver results in line with expectations.

When the failures mount then, so too will the recriminations. Unreasoned argument always leads to unreasoned consequences – unreasoned consequences to unreasonable reaction. When the magic pudding of improved Aboriginal circumstance doesn’t rise, expect the blame to be placed not on the Voice itself, but on the electorate. All but the blindest of men should see the coming fury with which ‘Yes’ advocates will denigrate the Australian people, should their emoted prescriptions fail in moving from theory to practice. Take one look at the growing remonstrations of our self-anointed elite on Twitter/X, to see the peculiar hatreds they expressed toward everyday Australians on this issue.

Say though, that against the wishes of these elites, that the ‘No’ camp wins (as on all statistical probability, it is likely to). Will its captains – Abbott, Mundine, Price, and Co – sail Australia happily into a brighter national future? Those who think so have failed to read the room, or indeed, to take the global temperature. The seeds of further social division have been sewn deliberately into the fabric of this campaign, and a defeat for the ‘Yes’ case will throw petrol on the already inflamed passions of the social justice left.

Australia did not have a Brexit, a Trump, or a Trucker convoy. Instead, the Voice will be our proxy for the historical-cultural warfare that has hitherto expressed itself in the wretched dialectic of other Anglosphere nations. Australia is not fighting precisely the same battle over the Voice, but it needs to learn precisely the same lesson: That the vote itself will act as stimulus, not settlement of the dividing question.

The Voice’s tragedy is that it repeats the confrontation that manifests in the spirit of our age across the Western World. Like Brexit, there will be a ferocious attempt to ignore the will of the people. There will be framed to posterity a ‘right side’ and a ‘wrong side’ of history. Anthony Albanese, in the spirit of his ideological forebear Barrack Obama, has not even bothered to wait for the vote to declare it so. Like the Trump election, there will be the permanent staining of the man in the street, for having the temerity to try charting the unapproved path. You can bet with unbridled confidence that the moral (if not the mathematical) legitimacy of the vote will be called into question before the first exit poll is tallied. Like the Canadian trucker convoy, the permanent state and its appendaged, subjugated corporations will be infuriated with the effective delegitimisation of their endorsed position. They will find a way around the obstacle that an inconveniently-disposed general public puts in its way.

For an Australia that has slipped into the throes of unreasoned passion, the road ahead will be treacherous. The only way out will be through – our politics will ultimately fail at solving a problem that only local citizen competency and national civic virtue can remedy.

Indolent
Indolent
September 24, 2023 8:09 am
132andBush
132andBush
September 24, 2023 8:10 am

GreyRanga
Sep 24, 2023 7:57 AM

Lol
My own mining company you mean.

Bushies Unconventional Mining (NL)

Cassie of Sydney
September 24, 2023 8:18 am

Isn’t it curious, odd and strange that Tyrant Dan’s socialist nirvana called Sicktoria has such active cells of Nazis, and how these Nazis only ever seem to pop up when ordinary men and women are on the streets protesting real issues, be it perverts in women’s spaces, or this “Voice” referendum.

Does anyone recall the Nazis turning up at the Invasion Day protests in January? I don’t.

And I’m curious, were these Nazis easily identifiable by the wearing of swastikas on their clothing? Because I thought displaying such symbols is now illegal in Victoria? I also thought that performing the Nazi salute is also now illegal in Victoria. Yes or no? And if they were wearing clothing with this banned symbol displayed prominently, and/or if they did give the Nazi salute, why weren’t they arrested and charged?

Too many questions.

All of which tells me that these Grampian Nazis are without a doubt an insider job. They’re paid actors doing the bidding of Tyrant Dan and the Victorian Police.

Or maybe I just have a feverish imagination……nah………..I don’t think so.

calli
calli
September 24, 2023 8:23 am

Quite so, Cassie. I’m expecting a whole lot more kabuki to come.

Mr PepperSpray took a bullet for the Cause.

And it wasn’t No.

Razey
Razey
September 24, 2023 8:23 am

The damage to our nation caused by this referendum, I fear, is irreparable.

The irreparable damage was done during the plandemic and the feeble/non-existent push back on medical tyranny. Now with the spectre of a whitewashed ‘inquiry’ there will be no chance of punishment or change to laws. Someone mentioned above about vigilance if No gets up. That will fall on deaf ears and they will impose their Marxism on us regardless.

miltonf
miltonf
September 24, 2023 8:24 am

The rubbish that misgoverns Vicco still live in the world of student politics at Monash aka the sewer. They have not progressed beyond kindergarten marxism.

m0nty
m0nty
September 24, 2023 8:25 am

Yesterday, Cats whined piteously that No supporters were terrorised by imaginary fascists into staying silent during WTC at the footy.

Also yesterday, actual fascists turned up in support of the No rally in Melbourne.

Indolent
Indolent
September 24, 2023 8:27 am

Actually doing some of the things being recommended here.

Sweden CANCELS Plan Stunning Europe

miltonf
miltonf
September 24, 2023 8:27 am

Speaking of kindergartan marxism

calli
calli
September 24, 2023 8:28 am

actual fascists

As Cassie said, now illegal in Vic to salute or display symbols.

I want them charged and named, like any other felon. Then we’ll know.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 24, 2023 8:30 am

‘The National Socialist Network’?

Network?

The weird thing (or things) is that they seem very amateurish for neo-Nazis. (I have in fairness only seen images and read descriptions of their activities) is that they their clothes are in good, even new, condition. They seem not to sport any actual Nazi symbols like flags, swastikas, iron crosses, or slogans in gothic script.

They are not aggressive, they don’t throw themselves upon counter-protestors and scuffle – even antifa does that.

And they don’t seem to have their own agenda, only appearing when conservatives make a stand in defiance of progressive government agenda. Other than then there seems nothing they want.

I truly just cannot put it beyond the Victorian government to organise these things, but it is probably more likely a small band of progressive activists who take their neo-Nazi street theatre to conservative rallies to discredit them. It is dishonest and vile, and therefore would be second nature (or first) to them.

Perhaps someone on Sky could flash up contrasting images, or footage, of real neo-Nazis and street performers.

Dot
Dot
September 24, 2023 8:31 am

Also yesterday, actual fascists turned up in support of the No rally in Melbourne.

Was the blonde long haired son of a VICPOL CIB officer spotted again

That frickin’ guy.

Bonus points to m0nty for implying that Anthony Mundine Jr is concomitant with “ACTUAL Nayzees” – another gutless Malmo moment.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 24, 2023 8:32 am

I see Cassie beat me.

Who is the quicker draw?

Keyboards at 20 paces!

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 24, 2023 8:33 am

They seem not to sport any actual Nazi symbols like flags, swastikas, iron crosses, or slogans in gothic script.

I meant in the form of tattoos.

Dot
Dot
September 24, 2023 8:34 am

Also m0nty – “68% of Quenthlandersare ACTUAL Nayzees”.

Great way to shit on all of those QLD WWII vets who served in the Battle of Britain, North Africa campaign and who went down on HMAS Sydney.

No sense of shame, this frickin’ guy.

Cassie of Sydney
September 24, 2023 8:35 am

Also yesterday, actual fascists turned up in support of the No rally in Melbourne.”

So writes an actual fascist.

Punched any Nazis today, pervert apologist?

m0nty
m0nty
September 24, 2023 8:36 am

Why is it so hard for Cats to believe that actual neo-Nazis exist in Australia? They have a long history, well documented. Not everything is a trick, some things are as they seem.

Dot
Dot
September 24, 2023 8:38 am

Because the long haired blonde son of the Victorian CIB detective keeps on turning up and never gets arrested despite Reddit cucks such as yourself telling us ending free speech is worth it as we could round up da Nayzees as soon as they protest.

“Why is it so hard to believe?”

Because it isn’t credible.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 24, 2023 8:39 am

Also yesterday, the VicStasi chose to react relatively mildly (compared to their actions during Deadly Dan’s lockdowns) to the illegal actions of their pseudo-fascist sock puppets. You know, the ones who only turn up at demonstrations not approved by Victoria’s fascist government.

Bashed any Nazis lately, gutless worm? Or are you still sub-contracting the task to the actual fascists of Ante-Fa?

Indolent
Indolent
September 24, 2023 8:40 am
m0nty
m0nty
September 24, 2023 8:40 am

Also, neo-Nazis don’t require iron cross tattoos or swastika flags to be authentic. Their message is enough.

All it takes is 14 words.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 24, 2023 8:44 am

m0nty
Sep 24, 2023 8:36 AM
Why is it so hard for Cats to believe that actual neo-Nazis exist in Australia? They have a long history, well documented. Not everything is a trick, some things are as they seem.

Who better to confirm the existence of actual Nazis in Australia than our resident fat fascist fool, supporter of Ante-Fa (comes before fascism).

Tell us, fat fascist fool, do actual communists exist in Australia?

Cassie of Sydney
September 24, 2023 8:45 am

“Why is it so hard for Cats to believe that actual neo-Nazis exist in Australia? They have a long history, well documented. Not everything is a trick, some things are as they seem.”

Firstly, piss off. when I talk about putting on boxing gloves, let’s start with scum like you.

Secondly, the only neo-Nazis that exist in this country are on your side, pervert apologist, groups like Antifa and others.

And if there are real Nazis here, why aren’t you spending your days punching them? Why weren’t you out yesterday shouting condemnation at those Nazis? You could become a comic book hero, Captain Monty, the fat Nazi Puncher! Now that would make amusing reading, except it really isn’t “amusing”, the only people you want to see punched are those whose ideological views you don’t like.

As I wrote above, piss off. I’m tired of scum like you, and I am particularly tired of being nice to scum like you. You used up any capital here when you justified and laughed at violence towards women.

m0nty
m0nty
September 24, 2023 8:46 am

I don’t have any insight as to VicPlod’s strategy when it comes to dealing with the neo-Nazi element, but my guess would be that they focus on containment during protests rather than escalation.

Ratbags like Thomas Sewell have their own agenda, but thankfully their numbers are small enough to not cause serious trouble. And he’s in trouble for that business with the hikers.

Cassie of Sydney
September 24, 2023 8:47 am

“Also, neo-Nazis don’t require iron cross tattoos or swastika flags to be authentic. Their message is enough.”

Wow, laughable but those words above confirm that the pervert apologist just wants to punch men, women and children whose views he doesn’t approve of.

Piss off pervert apologist.

lotocoti
lotocoti
September 24, 2023 8:48 am

I meant in the form of tattoos.

Yes.
The sort of lifetime commitment as shown by mØnty’s
waffen ss adjacent bro’s would be a deal sealer.

Black Ball
Black Ball
September 24, 2023 8:54 am

25g tobacco pouch. $70.99. FMD

m0nty
m0nty
September 24, 2023 8:54 am

I have had a few conversations with police people in social settings lately. One of the things that has come up has been the frequency of police car rammings: 350 per year, apparently.

The story is that youth gangs have worked out that when they steal a car and get chased by rozzers, all they need to do is cause any sort of bingle to the cop car and Plod will back off.

That policy is understandable to de-escalate what could be dangerous situations, but it has led to a lot of police cars spending a lot of time in the panel beaters.

Better than cops and/or crims spending time in hospital wards or morgues, I suppose. Still not a great outcome.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 24, 2023 8:54 am

Very easy to get a park for the half track at Halls Gap. Must be the footy finals.

Indolent
Indolent
September 24, 2023 8:56 am
H B Bear
H B Bear
September 24, 2023 8:56 am

I have had a few conversations with police people in social settings lately.

Trusted bloggers begone.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 24, 2023 8:58 am

Indigenous Voice to Parliament: Fair Australia says teal MP Kate Chaney’s Curtin seat voting No
Joe SpagnoloThe West Australian
Sun, 24 September 2023 2:00AM
Comments

Fewer than one in three voters support the Voice in Kate Chaney’s western suburbs teal stronghold of Curtin, according to the No campaign.

Support for the Voice in Ms Chaney’s Federal seat has plummeted to just 32 per cent, according to No supporters.

Internal polling by Fair Australia conducted earlier this month and obtained by The Sunday Times showed just 32 per cent of Curtin voters would support the referendum proposal to enshrine a Voice to Parliament in the Constitution — but nearly 60 per cent would oppose it.

Just under 7 per cent were unsure how to vote.

The phone poll of 825 people was taken over four nights and asked this question: In a national referendum that will be held on October 14 Australians will vote on: A Proposed Law: to alter the Constitution to recognise First Peoples of Australia by establishing an Aboriginal Torres Strait Islander Voice. If the referendum were held today, would you votes Yes for the Voice, or No against it?

It was the same question that will be asked at the October 14 referendum except the last line with voters to be asked: Do you approve this proposed alteration?

Fair Australia sources believe Curtin is a crucial seat in the referendum fight for WA, where the vote is on track to fail with the State potentially playing a key role in the Voice’s defeat.

The numbers mirror a poll in The West Australian which showed just 39 per cent of WA voters were planning a Yes vote, while 61 per cent said No.

Cassie of Sydney
September 24, 2023 9:01 am

I have had a few conversations with police people in social settings lately.”

The pervert apologist is reporting on us.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 24, 2023 9:04 am

m0nty
Sep 24, 2023 8:40 AM
Also, neo-Nazis don’t require iron cross tattoos or swastika flags to be authentic. Their message is enough.

All it takes is 14 words.

Tell us the 14 words, genius. Many of us are not familiar with the concept of “14 words for Nazism.

Cassie of Sydney
September 24, 2023 9:05 am

Fewer than one in three voters support the Voice in Kate Chaney’s western suburbs teal stronghold of Curtin, according to the No campaign.

Support for the Voice in Ms Chaney’s Federal seat has plummeted to just 32 per cent, according to No supporters.”

Totally unsurprising. And as I mentioned earlier re. Teal electorates, my prediction is that Curtin will be returned to the Liberal fold at the next election.

Bruce
Bruce
September 24, 2023 9:06 am

@calli:

“Kabuki,” or…

“Noh”?

In Kabuki, the performers wear lurid makeup. in “Noh” they wear elaborate masks, thus allowing rapid and dramatic changes of “face” / expression.

So, is the Oz body politic, “Kabuki” or, a “Noh show”?

Or just a degenerate circus?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 24, 2023 9:09 am

Why is it so hard for Cats to believe that actual neo-Nazis exist in Australia?

Because astroturfing is rampant by the Left and the deep state (but I repeat myself).

FBI lost count of how many paid informants were at Capitol on Jan. 6, and later performed audit to figure out exact number: ex-official (19 Sep)

Why would you think was any different here?

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 24, 2023 9:12 am

Fat Fascist Fool

The story is that youth gangs have worked out that when they steal a car and get chased by rozzers, all they need to do is cause any sort of bingle to the cop car and Plod will back off.

Hmmmm. “Youth gangs”? Is that code for Africans, mUnty? Are you some kind of racist, as well as being a fascist? You need to engage in a good old Maoist struggle session.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 24, 2023 9:12 am

Fewer than one in three voters support the Voice in Kate Chaney’s western suburbs teal stronghold of Curtin, according to the No campaign.

Ah ha, a Curtin uprising. I knew it. As soon as the Range Rover was back from Barbagallos.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 24, 2023 9:13 am

Lode, earlier:

Perhaps someone on Sky could flash up contrasting images, or footage, of real neo-Nazis and street performers

Yep. The black-shorted, terry-towelling-hat-wearing specimens turning up lately are the equivalent of buskers. $50 for an hour’s work beats playing ‘Greensleeves’ in Bourke Street all day, while keeping an eye on your coins lest a local tweaker pinches them and runs off.

Tom
Tom
September 24, 2023 9:17 am

25g tobacco pouch. $70.99. FMD

And 90% of the retail price is federal excise tax, Black Ball.

Only mugs like you and me pay tax.

Illegal, tax-free tobacco is now everywhere thanks to the uniparty’s insane anti-tobacco excise regime.

And organised criminals in Melbourne are now setting fire to tobacconists’ shops because they’re now competitors for illegal tobacco.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 24, 2023 9:18 am

Joy-riders’ passion for cars steered into legal avenue
Eelemarni Close-BrownAAP
Sun, 24 September 2023 4:32AM

An innovative program in north Queensland is hoping to encourage young First Nations people to take their love of cars to the workshop rather than the streets.

The Deterring Drivers program ran for six weeks in Townsville and combined education sessions on the dangers of joy-riding and the legal consequences of car theft with hands-on activities including panel beating workshops.

Seven Indigenous boys aged 13 to 16 took part in the Australian Catholic University pilot program, which aimed to reduce car thefts and encourage youths to engage in more social activities.

When asked how they first became involved in joy-riding, participants – whose real names are not being used – cited peer pressure, boredom and the enjoyment they gained from driving as well as a need to escape their circumstances.

Daniel, 16, said he took it up while attending a public school and hanging out with the wrong crowd.

He enjoyed attending the panel beating sessions the most as he was able to channel his passion for cars into practical, hands-on experience by fixing them.

Daniel and the other participants were shown how to spray paint, weld and use power tools to repair damaged cars – many of which had been damaged by joy-riding.

On the final day of the program, Daniel’s caseworker informed the research team that the young man had submitted his resume to the panel beating workshop and they immediately offered him an apprenticeship.

lotocoti
lotocoti
September 24, 2023 9:20 am

Currently revisiting the adventures of Harry Flashman VC.
A public reading of Flash For Freedom
would probably trigger the apocalypse.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 24, 2023 9:22 am

The story is that youth gangs have worked out that when they steal a car and get chased by rozzers, all they need to do is cause any sort of bingle to the cop car and Plod will back off

Ah, no. Apparently and allegedly, that used to be the policy everywhere, not just in Vicco.

However, after the Gargasoulas matter where that chap mistook the Bourke Street Mall for Punt Road, VicJack Inc – loath as I am to applaud them – now have the only SOPs in the country allowing jacks to not only continue on after being ‘rammed’ (regardless of damage caused), but to actually run the offending vehicle and the people in it off the road.

Either these ‘police in social settings’ are brand new, have spent their entire careers in offices or have identified a suitable candidate to take the piss out of for half an hour or so.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 24, 2023 9:23 am

Look, I think we should acknowledge that there are certainly some Nazis in Australia,

Just as there are other such Nazi-adjacent types as fascists, communists, Maoists, Trotskyists, enviro-fascists, Ante-Fa (arrives before fascism) and every other variety of leftard idiot (including those too stupid to pass Economics 1).

The question is how many stupid leftards are there here, and the answer seems to be in the order of 10% of the population. The real issue is what should be done with all of these mental midgets. Perhaps exile to the inner-city swamps of leftardism, and permanent confinement there. They can amuse themselves plotting against each other, and conducting purges.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 24, 2023 9:24 am

And organised criminals in Melbourne are now setting fire to tobacconists’ shops because they’re now competitors for illegal tobacco

Andrew Rule has a decent piece on this in the Hun, if one were to evade a paywall.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 24, 2023 9:28 am

A question for the fat fascist fool.

Given his enthusiasm for the whole “punch a Nazi” thing, and his confidence that the Grampians Nasties will always turn out for demonstrations against the stupidity of leftardism, why did he not attend the NO demonstration yesterday, and, like, you know, “punch a Nazi”?

JC
JC
September 24, 2023 9:28 am

Illegal, tax-free tobacco is now everywhere thanks to the uniparty’s insane anti-tobacco excise regime.

Prohibition or prohibitionary taxes always work.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
September 24, 2023 9:29 am

BJ

Same up this way with the euphemism “Youth crime.”

Fascinating that Vic Pol are suddenly showing restraint. Sarcasm aside I wonder if these groups cross pollinate through social media.

The ones up here are also ramming police cars and Katrina “You can’t arrest your way out of a crime wave” Carrol has a policy the cops must return to the station. The car thieves were actually looking for and attempting to damage police cars.

Pogria
Pogria
September 24, 2023 9:35 am
Roger
Roger
September 24, 2023 9:35 am

Katrina “You can’t arrest your way out of a crime wave” Carrol has a policy the cops must return to the station.

A pity; she started well, refusing calls to apply gender quotas to recruits, for example.

If my detective friend is representative of views in the QPS, she’s lost their confidence.

lotocoti
lotocoti
September 24, 2023 9:44 am

Prohibition or prohibitionary taxes always work.

Especially for buccaneering entrepreneurs seeking
new opportunities in the alternative economy.

Rabz
September 24, 2023 9:48 am

Jacinta Price is absolutely awesome. On Outsiders now laying into inner city collectivist imbeciles (BIRM).

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 24, 2023 9:51 am

Flash For Freedom – likely the best description of slave-trading ever written.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 24, 2023 9:51 am

They’re still carrying the torch in some parts (the Hun):

Firefighting crews are showing up to emergencies undermanned, amid a critical staff shortage that whistleblowers say poses a public safety threat.

Fire Rescue Victoria has admitted minimum crew requirements are being flouted as the service battles high absenteeism.

At least part of the reason for low (and falling) numbers:

Frustrated firefighters said ongoing vaccine mandates — which are estimated to be keeping dozens of firefighters off work — were a contributing factor.

Jesus wept. Let. It. Go. You. Flogs.

“This is a clear public safety threat,” one source said.

“Several firefighters are still stood down because of baseless and derelict mandates, but FRV would rather run below minimum staffing than bring these firefighters back to duty.

“As recently as last week, personnel have been denied entry to their stations to collect personal items because they are unvaccinated.”

Right now, there are clueless bureaucrats – of whom all no doubt live withing 5km of the Melbourne GPO – sitting around a table somewhere with their hands in the air going ‘How could this have happened?’ and ‘Nobody could have foreseen this’.

And:

An FRV spokesman confirmed minimum crew requirements were being flouted.

“On occasions, crewing numbers are reduced due to the availability of firefighters on a particular shift,” she said.

However:

A government spokeswoman said community safety has not been compromised.

Oh. Well. That’s comforting then. Forget I said anything.

Dot
Dot
September 24, 2023 9:54 am

m0nty got raked harder than Admiral Villeneuve at Trafalgar.

Every Cat must do his duty.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 24, 2023 9:55 am

All it takes is 14 words.

Come on, mUnty.

Tell us the 14 words that define Nazism. You have the advantage of being far more familiar with Nazi doctrine and symbolism than the rest of us. After all, it was you who caught Elon Musk using the number “88”, confirming his status as a Nazi, or at least confirming that status for the person he was quoting.

Don’t hold back, demonstrate that your knowledge of Nazi symbolism exceeds your knowledge of economics.

m0nty
m0nty
September 24, 2023 9:56 am

The Bourke St Mall incident was fixed with pop up bollards, not VicPlod policy changes.

Can’t do that on the Ring Road.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 24, 2023 9:56 am

The car thieves were actually looking for and attempting to damage police cars

Yep. Copycatting from social media, the same happened in Alice Springs and Katherine recently. In D-Town it’s about once a week or so.

The upper-level jacks are so horrified at the optics of a divisional van running a car off the road containing methed-up 16 year olds intent on destruction, that they have abandoned their primary purpose of protecting the community from human shit.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
September 24, 2023 9:57 am

Interesting comments by Cassie and others about the Melbourne Neo Nazis and yesterday.

The rally turnout was very low for a number of reasons.

Firstly they were not official No campaign rallies and neither Jacinda or Warren Mundine appeared at any. In fact Fair Australia organisers distanced themselves from the events once it became known the rallies were being organised by the pro Putin supporter Aussie Cossack from within the Russian consulate. These points would have turned off many No supporters.

Then there is the point some of those who were previously high profile protesters in Melbourne have moved interstate as could no longer stand living in VIC under Andrews and the VIC Pol regime.

The Neo Nazis tendency to turn up would also be a factor. They unfortunately taint any protest no matter how good the cause. Odd that it is always the causes that are against the Government. In this respect I would suggest that VIC Pol don’t mind them turning up as they serve to keep protest numbers low and reduce the police manpower strain. When you look at what they do it is pretty much standing around but they don’t cause any damage or physical harm. Whether they are undercover cops or whatever I don’t know but I think their presence does help by reducing protest numbers which is something preferred by police and Government.

On the Voice just caught Spencer Howson on 4BC. He is ex ABC and would normally expect him to be for Yes. He said he is leaning No because if No wins the Government can still take action and legislate to close the gap. That might mean Linda Burney actually doing her job instead of traveling around the country posing for selfies.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
September 24, 2023 9:57 am

No sense of shame, this frickin’ guy.

Are you sure that MontyPox Virus is a guy?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 24, 2023 9:59 am

The Bourke St Mall incident was fixed with pop up bollards

It wasn’t ‘fixed’, you simpleton. It had already happened.

The policy would have allowed the jacks to ram – in concert – Gargasoulas’ stolen Commodore from where it was doing burnouts at Flinders and Swanston until it was on its roof in Fed Square, or more appropriately the river.

Roger
Roger
September 24, 2023 10:05 am

I still don’t trust polls but this is comforting….

RedBridge poll finds voters don’t think Voice to Parliament is a top-5 priority

An exclusive new poll has found that few Australians rank the Voice as one of the top five priorities for the federal government, nominating cost of living and housing affordability as top issues.

Says Captain Obvious.

RedBridge is a Labor pollster too.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
September 24, 2023 10:09 am

Tom
Sep 24, 2023 9:17 AM
25g tobacco pouch. $70.99. FMD

And 90% of the retail price is federal excise tax, Black Ball.

Smokers doing their bit for the Guv’ment coffers. Got to pay for those ‘Pollie’ benefits yer’ know.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 24, 2023 10:14 am

The Bourke St Mall incident was fixed with pop up bollards

This is how you end up with Victoriastan.

cohenite
September 24, 2023 10:15 am

Also yesterday, actual fascists turned up in support of the No rally in Melbourne.

You actually have no dick. Anyone who says these were NAZIs supporting the No vote is either a dickless grub or a complete idiot.

Rabz
September 24, 2023 10:21 am

Why is it so hard for Cats to believe that actual neo-Nazis exist in Australia?

Because unlike you, Cap’n Monty, the nayzee puncher, we aren’t severely brain damaged.

Or too house sized bottomaged to get off the couch.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
September 24, 2023 10:27 am

Chris Kenny article in the Oz now over 2500 comments. Overwhelmingly against him.

He is going to need to some serious therapy on 15th October.

Robert Sewell
Robert Sewell
September 24, 2023 10:29 am

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/09/uk-government-contract-states-that-illegal-immigrants-must/

The Home Office have now told their contractors that individuals who break into the country illegally on small boats must be given better accommodation. Contracts now mandate three star hotels as the acceptable standard.

MatrixTransform
September 24, 2023 10:30 am

and I am particularly tired of being nice to scum

that’s the spirit

but imagine mUnty’s plight for a sec

always surrounded by people just like himself in a mono-thinking vacuum he is ‘literally’ suffocating

this is the only place where his most simplistic non-sequitur gibberish can get a hearing

MatrixTransform
September 24, 2023 10:30 am

25g tobacco pouch. $70.99. FMD

… it’s for your own good

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 24, 2023 10:31 am

He is going to need to some serious therapy on 15th October.

I think the ALPBC will roster some extra therapy dogs.

Robert Sewell
Robert Sewell
September 24, 2023 10:37 am

Mother Lode
Sep 24, 2023 8:30 AM

I truly just cannot put it beyond the Victorian government to organise these things, but it is probably more likely a small band of progressive activists who take their neo-Nazi street theatre to conservative rallies to discredit them. It is dishonest and vile, and therefore would be second nature (or first) to them.

Mother Load, mob them and expose their faces. It’s easy enough to do and should be a tactic every time they turn up.
Mob, expose and photograph. It’s an effective way to stop them.

Roger
Roger
September 24, 2023 10:37 am

The Home Office have now told their contractors that individuals who break into the country illegally on small boats must be given better accommodation. Contracts now mandate three star hotels as the acceptable standard.

Contradicting the Home Secretary Suella Braverman’s position stated in parliament.

Like certain Liberal ministers in a former Australian government (Hi, Alan Tudge!), she likes to talk a big game but appears incapable of delivering results.

MPs are rightly complaining that illegal “migrants” are now being housed long term in hotel accommodation their constituents couldn’t afford for a short term holiday.

Roger
Roger
September 24, 2023 10:40 am

Contracts now mandate three star hotels as the acceptable standard.

That was a minimum of 3 stars stipulated in that particular contract, btw.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 24, 2023 10:46 am

Contracts now mandate three star hotels as the acceptable standard.

That rules out the Salford pub I stayed at arriving in Manchester during a UEFA home game for Man U.

Robert Sewell
Robert Sewell
September 24, 2023 10:47 am

I’d like to see some closer examination of Barrys’ supposition yesterday at 3:41PM:

1/3 of the population is on the postal ballot register.
All postal ballots are placed in the custody of Computershare after AusPost and prior to counting.

Is this correct, and could the raising of this in public discussion short circuit the attempt?

Ron Elk
Ron Elk
September 24, 2023 10:48 am

Being on the right side of history all the time can be a very difficult thing to adjust to for some people. Sometimes you will end up doing things that might seem to be wrong on the surface, but then you have to remember that you are on the right side of history, and that makes it okay.

So inventing fake neo nazi groups out of nothing in order to sabotage your opposition might initially seem to be a bit off, but remember, you are on the right side of history, so it is okay.

And filling school libraries up with books encouraging seven year olds to change their sex, and threatening parents who question this, all of this might seem to be a bit sinister, initially, but you have to remember that you are on the right side of history, you and history are standing together in the right, correct and exactly appropriate position in space, or some such thing, so all will be well.

Of course all of this depends on there not being a higher power above and beyond history that you will one day have to stand before, but very few of these people really believe in any of that. No, it is all about history, and standing in the right place beside it, or in its shadow, or just below an awning branching off it, or something, that is what matters, and very little else.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 24, 2023 10:49 am

There is no postal ballot register. Maybe check the tunnels?

Rabz
September 24, 2023 10:50 am

He is going to need to some serious therapy on 15th October.

Not to mention a new jerb. I’m sure the ALPBC will welcome him with open alms.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
September 24, 2023 10:51 am

Is this correct, and could the raising of this in public discussion short circuit the attempt?

Didn’t work for the hieroglyphic being allowed to mean “Yes”

That is no reason to give up or not try, there’s no other way but to shine sunlight on possible cheating.

Rabz
September 24, 2023 10:52 am

Oops – Bear, you beat me to it (again).

Bluey
Bluey
September 24, 2023 10:54 am

Cassie of Sydney
Sep 24, 2023 9:01 AM
I have had a few conversations with police people in social settings lately.”

The pervert apologist is reporting on us.

“social settings”

Uh huh…..

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
September 24, 2023 10:56 am

The head of Ukraine’s SBU has said that the country cannot afford to keep fighting “soldier to soldier” due to the imbalance of the countries’ populations.

Around 60,000 dead from the UKR Counter Offensive according to some. Going well I see.

Yes, more missiles please says ‘Z’ as ‘we’ (and who is we BTW) are running out of ‘cannon fodder’.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 24, 2023 11:01 am

Not to mention a new jerb. I’m sure the ALPBC will welcome him with open alms.

Kenny will need to overcome some cognitive dissonance before starting at the ALPBC. Stranger things have happened. PK is now a star after a stint at Teh Paywallian .

lotocoti
lotocoti
September 24, 2023 11:02 am

Outsiders could’ve chosen a better Remoaner clip.

Rabz
September 24, 2023 11:02 am

Paul “is wrong, again” Kelly talking about Ruperdink Mudrock.

No, thanks very much.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 24, 2023 11:02 am

Cassie of Sydney

Sep 24, 2023 7:44 AM

I still don’t trust polls but this is comforting….

RedBridge poll finds voters don’t think Voice to Parliament is a top-5 priority

I think I saw a poll a while ago showing it didn’t rate in the top 15.
This is good for pushing the undecided vote to No.

Roger
Roger
September 24, 2023 11:03 am

That was a minimum of 3 stars, btw.

“The location of the accommodation will be carried out at locations close to amenities and transport networks. Contracted venues should be at least a minimum of three stars.”

Luzu
Luzu
September 24, 2023 11:03 am

Well, well, well.

Ireland have beaten South Africa in their much-anticipated pool match. Quarterfinals are now (barring some sort of stupid result/tactical loss/referee brain fade somewhere) SA v France and Ireland v NZ.

Wales will most likely beat Australia and that is, unfortunately, the end of the Wallabies’ campaign (and also Eddie Jones, one would think). Very sad seeing Australian rugby fall from the wonderful heights of having made the RWC final in 2015.

If QFs go with form, I would expect the four semi-finalists to all be NH nations. However, Argentina (despite having an average start to their campaign) could possibly pull off an upset against Wales in the Pool D runner up vs Pool C winner QF (assuming Wales beat us tomorrow morning). But Fiji is unlikely to repeat their recent performance against England in the other QF from that side of the draw.

I cannot see France losing to SA nor can I envisage NZ besting Ireland. I am, however, hopeful of being totally and utterly wrong in the latter case. An Irish loss to NZ sets up the delightful prospect of a NZ v France final. Ooh la la!

We will see.

Roger
Roger
September 24, 2023 11:06 am

I think I saw a poll a while ago showing it didn’t rate in the top 15.

I dare say nuclear power would rate as more of a priority if it were included in the poll.

Roger
Roger
September 24, 2023 11:07 am

The government is losing control of the narrative, as the pundits are wont to say.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 24, 2023 11:09 am

Flash For Freedom – likely the best description of slave-trading ever written.

Any Cats got an opinion as to which the best of the “Flashman” novels was? My money was on “Flash For Freedom” and “Flashman at the Charge.”

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 24, 2023 11:09 am

Eddie Jones manager should update his contact list. Could be a busy few months. Plenty of time for Eddie to fit in some media management courses. RA should check Amazon for hari kari swords.

Roger
Roger
September 24, 2023 11:11 am

Very sad seeing Australian rugby fall from the wonderful heights of having made the RWC final in 2015.

I find it very satisfying.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 24, 2023 11:13 am

I find it very satisfying.

Unless you watch the games.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 24, 2023 11:14 am

From the previous page:

No, it is all about history, and standing in the right place beside it, or in its shadow, or just below an awning branching off it, or something, that is what matters, and very little else.

Yep. And if your efforts fail, there is a twofold mantra to fall back on:

1. Next time we’ll do it right; and/or
2. It was someone else’s fault*.

*May also be translated as ‘Mistakes were made on both sides’.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 24, 2023 11:15 am

m0nty

Sep 24, 2023 8:36 AM

Why is it so hard for Cats to believe that actual neo-Nazis exist in Australia? They have a long history, well documented.

If they have such a long history but remain a fringe group of noisy but harmless loons, why is Hunchback so obsessed with them?

Roger
Roger
September 24, 2023 11:16 am

Unless you watch the games.

Meh…I couldn’t be bothered.

I was watching highlights of the 1991 matches the other night.

Glory days.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
September 24, 2023 11:17 am

BREAKING: Ukraine asks all Ukrainians to leave Crimea before its liberation

That’s code for ‘Z’ needing more men as ‘cannon fodder’ for the so called ‘Counter Offensive’.

‘Z’ will be asking for Poland, Hungary and Germany to give back all Ukrainians so that he can have the men back as more ‘cannon fodder’.

Rabz
September 24, 2023 11:17 am

The government is losing control of the narrative

They barely ever had it under control in the first place.

A hopeless government which has lost its way.

Teats Peanuthead, come on down!

Makka
Makka
September 24, 2023 11:18 am

but very few of these people really believe in any of that.

Baudelaire:
““‘The prettiest trick of the devil is to make us believe he doesn’t exist.’”

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 24, 2023 11:22 am

Agree with you on those two Flashman books, Zulu.

However they’re all good – might be easier to choose the worst. For my money it would be Flashman and the Mountain of Light.

Tom
Tom
September 24, 2023 11:26 am

Most of us end up following the football we were born into.

When I lived briefly in the USA, I just couldn’t get interested in NFL because, for me, it was just another version of rugby — gridiron, a cousin of rugby union and rugby league.

All three are running games with constant stoppages, whereas Australian football, while it is also a running game, puts much more emphasis on ball-kicking skill.

The three rugby codes, with their constant stoppages and time-outs, are boring by comparison.

But you can’t tell that to a Sydneyite or a Queenslander, who grew up soaked in league or union.

Dot
Dot
September 24, 2023 11:26 am

Ron Elk = Graeme Bird

Roger
Roger
September 24, 2023 11:27 am

Rugby Australia lost me when they persecuted Israel Folau.

It would take quite a bit to get me back…and I suspect I’m not the only one who feels that way.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 24, 2023 11:27 am

Teats Peanuthead, come on down!

To mix a metaphor, that might be too big a pill for a dog returning to its vomit to swallow. Time for another KRuddy saviour.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 24, 2023 11:29 am

calli
Sep 23, 2023 5:58 PM

Of, course, Rabz! On the strength of my “embellishment” birthday card, the Beloved booked an extension of our holiday next year. Including a final dinner in Venice.

calli,

we stayed in https://www.hotelaquariusvenice.com/ in June this year with my Son who stays there with his Family on weekend visits to Venice – besides an excellent Gelati Shop next door and a COOP Shop just across other side of square

AQUARIUS is set in Campo San Giacomo da l’Orio, one of the most beautiful areas of Santa Croce, Venice. While preserving the ancient realities, the San Giacomo da l’Orio area offers all the essential and useful services for everyday life.

With its trees and stones, secret gardens and lovely human sized spots where to refresh and enjoy, this area full of history is able to embrace every guest.

Besides pleasany drinks in ground floor bar excellent restaurants nearby including steak – AL Grill

and

So.gi. Di Sorato Luca E C. S.a.s.

Roger
Roger
September 24, 2023 11:34 am

The three rugby codes, with their constant stoppages and time-outs, are boring by comparison.

But you can’t tell that to a Sydneyite or a Queenslander, who grew up soaked in league or union.

I was musing on the difference between the codes the other day.

Rugby union and rugby league are perfect for TV because most of the action happens in a line that moves across the field and the screen.

AFL, in contrast, is as much about positioning around the oval and not just what happens on ball. Hence it doesn’t translate as well to TV.

This explains why (imv) you consistently get bigger crowds at the games than the two rugby codes do. Watching AFL on TV just doesn’t compare to being there.

Makka
Makka
September 24, 2023 11:34 am

The three rugby codes, with their constant stoppages and time-outs, are boring by comparison.

Tom,
The NRL has sped up enormously in the last few years with various rule changes. This season has been the best I’ve seen in decades, with the top 10 teams playing amazingly fast skillful footy. This weekend saw it at it’s best (especially for the Broncs!!!) I’d say the NRL nowadays is an amazingly entertaining sport. Far better than that chaotic soft mess AFL, anyways.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 24, 2023 11:36 am

Tom, there is something about having played a game (particularly as a child) that makes you appreciate the subtleties much more. I watch AFL with my support worker who played sub State level soccer and find myself explaining all sorts of things to him. And vice versa during the World Cup. I watched a few rugby games with a guy who played a lot of schoolboy rugby. We may well have been watching different games.

Tom
Tom
September 24, 2023 11:37 am

Tonight’s 60 Minutes on Nein is going to join the Russell Brand pile-on.

Tom
Tom
September 24, 2023 11:43 am

Watching AFL on TV just doesn’t compare to being there.

Correct, Roger.

One of the beauties of attending an AFL game is seeing all the tactical/positional stuff you don’t get in the TV broadcast.

local oaf
September 24, 2023 11:46 am
H B Bear
H B Bear
September 24, 2023 11:47 am

The lack of offside in AFL completely changes the game from any game that does. Increasingly it has been looking very basketball-y, although a good full forward can stop that.

Makka
Makka
September 24, 2023 11:49 am

Ron Elk = Graeme Bird

So what?

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 24, 2023 11:50 am
OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 24, 2023 11:50 am

Tom
Sep 24, 2023 11:26 AM

Most of us end up following the football we were born into.

When I lived briefly in the USA, I just couldn’t get interested in NFL because, for me, it was just another version of rugby — gridiron, a cousin of rugby union and rugby league.

All three are running games with constant stoppages, whereas Australian football, while it is also a running game, puts much more emphasis on ball-kicking skill.

Tom,

I grew up playing Hooker in Rugby League, Undefeated Premiers both in Final Year Rugby League Schools Comp and Northern Suburbs Weekend Rugby League Comp , playing Jersey Flegg & Presidents Cup for North Sydney Bears, – Played Hooker for Sydney Uni Enginerering Rugby Team and thought they were mad, as I lay on the ground in the middle of a maul being raked by studs

Moving to Melbourne with my wife in 1968, I found that if you did not follow AFL, then you were unable to prticipate in Office discussions Monday to Friday

Going to Boston 35 Times over 3 years late 70s I became Boston Patriots Fan, Bruins Fan & Red Socks Fan – again needed to enjoy Office Conversations – Most memorable – watching Super Bowl in the Sheraton Boston Sports Bar Prudential Building in 78 with our clients Legal Rep – Brawl broke out with chairs being smased over peoples heads – broken up by Police – with out host, as we huddled under table saying “Pure Americana”

My son played Rugby Union & my grandsons Soccer, Rugby League, Rugby Union and AFL, but with Son-in-Law Phsyio GWS at one stage – live-in family including Wife supports AFL & GWS – Melbourne SIL, Carlton, and AFL, I will agree is the Best Football Game in the World

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 24, 2023 11:52 am

So what?

Nanowrigglers

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
September 24, 2023 11:53 am

Not seen any mention of Yes campaign advertising during the football games. Did they go ahead with the ads?

The Welcome to Country guy at the NRL game was actually very good and got the crowd doing Aussie Aussie Aussie.

Alamak!
Alamak!
September 24, 2023 11:56 am

Not being born in Victoria or raised playing the sport I find it fast but kinda pointless with no consistency in rules for contact. Managed to live in Melb for couple of years and supported a team to get along. It was helpful to take a newspaper to read at games to get through the game. Victorians usually baffled by the global support for footba;l(soccer) during World Cup events.

JC
JC
September 24, 2023 11:56 am

Zelensky asks Marina Abramovic to be ambassador for Ukraine
Artist will lend her voice to help rebuild schools in the country

Lordie
She’s the “spirit cooker”. Some people thought her art edged toward satanism.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 24, 2023 11:59 am

On garage nastis.

The ones I have some knowledge of were dismantled by WAPOL a long time ago, Tongerins mob

I was also 2 houses down when a couple of members settled a dispute with a .410 shotgun.

They are, if anything, less of a threat to society than Bikie mobs.

And for them to be allowed to parade in Vic like they do stinks to high heaven.

JC
JC
September 24, 2023 12:00 pm

Makka
Sep 24, 2023 11:49 AM
Ron Elk = Graeme Bird

So what?

Pose that question to the owner of the lollipop pop blog, nakkas. Let him on the site and ruined the blog. Never recovered.

JC
JC
September 24, 2023 12:02 pm

Offside makes a ton of sense in soccer. Very easy to understand and not complex at all while the game is in play.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 24, 2023 12:02 pm

Some people thought her art edged toward satanism.

Probably the blood, pentagrams and goat heads she likes to use.

Luzu
Luzu
September 24, 2023 12:05 pm

“Zelensky asks Marina Abramovic to be ambassador for Ukraine.
Artist will lend her voice to help rebuild schools in the country”

Why do the same unqualified but well-connected people keep getting placed into these positions? What is she bringing to the position that benefits the people of Ukraine? Why do they (the Ukrainian people) seem to have no veto over these choices?

The current American administration is pure, unadulterated evil. Corrupt and venal in every part. I am becoming more convinced that America is the Mystery Babylon named in the Book of Revelation.

And I don’t say that lightly as I have a very deep love for the American people.

Makka
Makka
September 24, 2023 12:06 pm

Pose that question to the owner of the lollipop pop blog,

You don’t own this blog, so stfu shorty.

JC
JC
September 24, 2023 12:06 pm

Probably the blood, pentagrams and goat heads she likes to use.

Oh yeah, that’s right.

Somehow, the Pizzagaters managed to connect her to the pizzagate conspiracy, but I forget how.

Out of all the pizzagate bullshit, I thought that her to connection to satanism was quite real.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 24, 2023 12:07 pm

Not being born in Victoria or raised playing the sport I find it fast but kinda pointless with no consistency in rules for contact.

Some of the AFL rules are unduly subjective: in the back, dropping the ball, holding the ball ( in a pack) while some make no sense at all – jumping on someone’s back is fine if you take the mark but a free kick if you jump early and don’t. There is also a tendency to fiddle with the rules to keep the feel of the game as the army of coaches seek to exploit them for advantage.

JC
JC
September 24, 2023 12:09 pm

You don’t own this blog, so stfu shorty.

And you don’t either Nakkas, which is why I highlighted your stupid comment about Bird who’s banned here. You moron, he ruins blogs.

Dot
Dot
September 24, 2023 12:13 pm

“What’s so bad about Graeme Bird?”

1. Rabid, off the chart antisemitism.
2. A serial pest.
3. Would get people cancelled but he lacks the competence to get it done.
4. Obsessive and vindictive.
5. Likes to call everyone gay.
6. Will give weird stalkers a place to hang out if they placate him enough (e.g., weird male nurse and leftard “Jinmaro” posing as a female poet on a cycling trip of Europe.
7. Obsessed with “proving” conventional science wrong, stemming from being an anti Jewish scientist crank. Ergo, special & general relativity are wrong, because a Jew came up with the theories.

Graeme is why we can’t have nice things.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 24, 2023 12:13 pm

Just in case you thought Victorian Liberals couldn’t possibly get any worse.

Victorian Liberal leader John Pesutto maintains rights to expel MPs following Moira Deeming’s controversial removal (24 Sep)

Go away and join the Labor Party.

Makka
Makka
September 24, 2023 12:15 pm

It’s none of your business, shorty. If you want to give orders then fk off and start your own blog. You carry on here as if you own the place.

If the blog owner here doesn’t want him commenting he can stop him.

P
P
September 24, 2023 12:15 pm

THE BATTLE FOR THE BODY
by Carl R. Trueman
9 . 21 . 23

Given the chaotic and volatile nature of our culture, what should the church focus on in her teaching? This is one of the pressing questions of our day. The answer, of course, is “the whole counsel of God.” That is true but also somewhat glib. Do peculiar times not call for specific emphases in our teaching? As the fourth century wrestled with the doctrine of God, the fifth with Christology and the nature of God’s grace, and the Reformation era with sacraments and salvation, so our age wrestles with the question of anthropology. What does it mean to be human? More specifically, what does it mean to be an embodied human? For we now find ourselves not so much in a battle for the Bible but in a battle for the body.

The status of the body as it relates to us as human persons seems to be the issue that lies, often unseen, behind many of the other more prominent debates of our age. Take the most controversial question of recent years: What is a woman? This is remarkably simple to answer if bodies have importance, but it is now staggeringly difficult to answer because our culture denies the authority of the body in this matter. Contra Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson, one cannot punt the question of what is a woman to the biologists because biology doesn’t count.

It is eighty years since Lewis gave the lectures that formed The Abolition of Man. That abolition continues apace. And the human body is now its clear target.

Cassie of Sydney
September 24, 2023 12:16 pm

Tonight Yom Kippur begins, at approximately 5.30. It’s day of atonement, where we Jews fast, no food and no fluid for 25 hours. Most would know of it here from the war, hard to believe that was fifty years ago now. I’ve just come in from my sister’s and I will fast alone. I’ll visit Mum tomorrow afternoon. I don’t fast well, it’s not the absence of food that bothers me, it’s the absence of fluid. I’ll probably need water at some stage otherwise I get terrible migraines and start vomiting. During one fast, over twenty years ago, I collapsed in synagogue but there’s one good thing about fainting in a synagogue, there are always a lot of doctors in the house!

The elderly, the infirm, children under 12 (girls) and 13 (boys), soldiers on duty are not permitted to fast, in fact it’s forbidden. Anyway, my sister lives in the inner-west, in a very nice place on the water, so I caught the bus and train home this morning, and I got off at Town Hall to get some groceries from the Woollies there…which reminds me….I can’t believe how groceries have skyrocketed….but at least berries are cheap, strawberries, blueberries, raspberries…..yummo!

Anyway, after I got my groceries I then walked to get the bus and I noticed that the bollards are out in front of the Great Synagogue on Elizabeth Street in Sydney’s CBD. I’m quite attached to the Great Synagogue, I have some family associations with the place although I don’t go to that particular synagogue. But seeing the bollards upsets me, security at all “Jewish” organisations is enormous and costly. Every synagogue, every Jewish school, every Jewish kindergarten, every Jewish communal building now requires massive security. It wasn’t like that growing up. So, where does this danger come from? Is it from the far-right? Well, they probably count for about 20% of the threats, but the other 80% emanates from a religious ideology that insists it’s a religion of peace except one of its favourite tenets is homicidal Jew hatred. In fact there was a recent recent incident outside Moriah, the Orthodox Jewish school here in Queens Park, where a man “has protected the identity of a person who hurled the anti-Semitic abuse from a slow-moving car out the front of a prestigious eastern suburbs school, with a security guard labelled a “f**ing jew c**t”.

“A man named Ramzi Khafaga was sentenced for driver failing or refusing to disclose a person’s identity at Waverley Local Court on Wednesday in relation to two incidents outside Moriah War Memorial College, Queens Park. The court heard the Matraville man had been charged after he refused to reveal the identity of the man who unleashed the shocking abuse; a subcontractor who worked for his building business.”

Or perhaps, according to the words once written here by our very own pervert apologist, Ramzi Khafaga and the mate he’s covering up for have ‘legitimate grievances’ to go screaming Jew hatred outside a Jewish school?

But then again, what would we know about homicidal Jew hatred, according to a leftist Labor MLA, we’re just a “race of whingers”.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 24, 2023 12:17 pm

cohenite
Sep 24, 2023 10:15 AM
Also yesterday, actual fascists turned up in support of the No rally in Melbourne.

You actually have no dick. Anyone who says these were NAZIs supporting the No vote is either a dickless grub or a complete idiot.

Embrace the power of “and”. mUnty is a complete idiot, a dickless grub and a gutless worm.

And those are his good points.

Roger
Roger
September 24, 2023 12:17 pm

Why do the same unqualified but well-connected people keep getting placed into these positions?

I don’t think she’s been placed into any official position, has she?

Something vague about being asked to raise funds to rebuild schools.

(I had to look her up…she’s 76 y.o. professional attention seeker who will likely be dead before the war ends if present the trend continues.)

JC
JC
September 24, 2023 12:19 pm

I’m not giving orders, nakkas. I was responding to your stupid response to Dot, which suggested giving license to a banned loon.

Now go give the Klepto’s pic a big wet kiss , you dunce.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 24, 2023 12:22 pm

Very sad seeing Australian rugby fall from the wonderful heights of having made the RWC final in 2015.

Well, it is in our hands, now.

I am wait Albo and Chris Kenny to explain that we will not win Rugby competitions again until we, as a nation, are made whole again by The Voice. And if we fail on 14th October not only will the whole solar system have justified loathing for us, but so will all the world’s umpires, referees, and those strange little people who run around with flags.

Marcia will explain it as racist people playing a racist game where racists kick a dark ball in a racist recapitulation of thousands of racist years of racist racistry by white supremacists, and the ball is dark because it used to be made from the skin black babies under the Racist Football Fabrication Racist Act, and all White people are racist and…and…racist.

She is an academic so her words carry wait. Almost the same way another academic use spit to convey arguments.

miltonf
miltonf
September 24, 2023 12:27 pm

The current American administration is pure, unadulterated evil.

yes it is- also a strong element of payback to teach Americans a lesson for electing Trump and not the lesbian bitch.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 24, 2023 12:28 pm

JC
Sep 24, 2023 11:56 AM
Zelensky asks Marina Abramovic to be ambassador for Ukraine
Artist will lend her voice to help rebuild schools in the country

Lordie
She’s the “spirit cooker”. Some people thought her art edged toward satanism.

Is she the kind of “cooker” that FatBoy babbles about?

Carpe Jugulum
Carpe Jugulum
September 24, 2023 12:29 pm

Now go give the Klepto’s pic a big wet kiss , you dunce.

Jesus H Christ on a motorbike, i laughed out loud at that line.

I don’t know the context behind it and i don’t care, that was pi5s funny.

JC
JC
September 24, 2023 12:34 pm

Is she the kind of “cooker” that FatBoy babbles about?

Never thought of that. I could visialize Fatboy banqueting over a raw bloodied goats head.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 24, 2023 12:36 pm

Fat Boy has still not come up with those “14 words” about Nazism.

I’m beginning to think that he plucked that number, and the idea, out of his ample @rse.

Makka
Makka
September 24, 2023 12:36 pm

“Wide Awake Media
@wideawake_media
CNN Technical Director, Charlie Chester, in a secret Project Veritas recording from April 2021: Once the public are no longer scared of “Covid”, “climate change” will take centre stage as the new imaginary boogeyman to terrify everyone into submission with.

“They’ve already announced in our office that once the public is open to it, we’re going to start focusing mainly on climate… There’s a definitive ending to the pandemic. It’ll taper off to a point that it’s not a problem anymore. The climate thing is gonna take years, so they’ll probably be able to milk that for quite a bit.”

Be prepared, it’s coming.”

And sure enough, two and a half whole years later, we’re now seeing this play out in the mainstream media—in absolute lockstep, just like with the “Covid” narrative.”

https://twitter.com/wideawake_media/status/1705497398288519385

Not that confirmation of MSM insidiousness is necessary.

calli
calli
September 24, 2023 12:37 pm

My grandies are at Moriah. The old kindergarten had what was basically an airlock entrance, guarded outside with someone inside to check your identity.

I wouldn’t recommend challenging either of them.

Big school is even more heavily guarded. I won’t go into details here for obvious reasons. All my children, and the other grandies all went/go to school on open campuses. Only the Jewish children are under so much threat they have to be protected by armed guards and a network of security.

Australia, 2023.

calli
calli
September 24, 2023 12:39 pm

I don’t recall Graeme going to the trouble of using Gravatars. Waste of effort if you’re going to be punted.

cohenite
September 24, 2023 12:41 pm

Now go give the Klepto’s pic a big wet kiss , you dunce.

Jesus H Christ on a motorbike, i laughed out loud at that line.

I don’t get it; but if head prefect is giving wet ones to anyone else there is going to be donkey nuts at dawn.

calli
calli
September 24, 2023 12:42 pm

And…just like that Rover drops one.

What didn’t you like Rover? The talk about threatened children? The heavy security necessary in an Aussie school?

Or is it the expression of disgust on my face?

Barry
Barry
September 24, 2023 12:44 pm

H B Bear
Sep 24, 2023 10:49 AM

There is no postal ballot register. Maybe check the tunnels?

Of course there is a Postal Ballot Register.

If you’ve applied for a postal ballot in any previous State or Federal Election, they will send you a postal ballot for this referendum (and any future State or Federal elections). You don’t have to keep applying each time. It’s a ratchet.

This is how they build a growing population of postal voters, which are vastly easier to interfere with than in-person votes.

Every loose postal ballot paper is ripe for interference and fraud.

They are easier to interfere with by design. The votes are held, without scrutineering or monitoring by an organisation fundamentally opposed to the Right.

Slowly slowly catchee monkey. Boiling frog. Whatever you want to call it, you will lose and wonder why.

Makka
Makka
September 24, 2023 12:45 pm

The old kindergarten had what was basically an airlock entrance, guarded outside with someone inside to check your identity.

It’s a weird feeling, I’ll admit. The kindy my kid went to in Russia has serious fencing , a 4 corner guard roster with a couple at the gate – leather jacketed stocky stone faced types with very close cropped hair cuts. Local mafia families had kids there. Word on the street was that the grounds were sacrosanct. It worked and still does to my knowledge. That kindy wanted for nothing and the teachers and staff were quite wonderful.

Ron Elk
Ron Elk
September 24, 2023 12:46 pm

I did realise that I would probably be mistaken for Graeme Bird some time after typing Elk in, and I will probably have to pick a different name at some stage. The only thing I can say is that from what I have seen, his more recent pseudonyms seem to be more along the lines of ‘Cyber Elf Snow Goblin’ these days, he seems to have veered away from your basic animal name pseudonym and moved up a dimension.

JC
JC
September 24, 2023 12:46 pm

You know, it’s a pretty incredible world we live in. Brand is cancelled, and his livelihood may be gone forever because of something he may have or may not have done 20 years ago or more.

Meanwhile, this fat, oxygen thief is boasting that he was a member of the communist party at 15, showing no regrets or remorse about membership in a political party resembling the Nazis, and has a regular column in a center-right newspaper.

Is it time for me to leave the ABC?
phillip adams

I must be one of the few Australians to have been expelled from both the Communist Party and the Boy Scouts, though not in that order. I joined the former shortly after being booted from the latter. I went from Baden-Powell’s “broomstick warriors” to post-Stalin Bolshevism.

Having joined the Australian Communist Party at 15 (bemused comrades at the Eltham branch waived the minimum-age requirement), it’s debatable whether I was pushed or jumped. The Party was imploding and if you were a rat jumping ship you were evicted. Perhaps it’s in my ASIO file. I’m proud that I was the youngest to have one! Having finally got it from the National Archives, albeit heavily redacted, it’s one of my proudest possessions.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 24, 2023 12:49 pm

I’ve worked out where FatBoy got his reference to “14 words” from.

He is mixed up with that well known “progressive” racist Woodrow Wilson and his Fourteen Points to end WW I.

The best comment on the Fourteen Points was by Loyd George: “Even the Good Lord only had ten.”

Pogria
Pogria
September 24, 2023 12:51 pm

I had a message left on my phone last Thursday informing me that Roy Morgan Research would be calling me back in a few days about an IMPORTANT NATIONAL SURVEY. hah.
Any ideas on answers to anticipated questions? Reckon I may be able to have some fun.

Dot
Dot
September 24, 2023 1:09 pm

That is quick for 60 Minutes. This whole affair appears coordinated rather than a pile-on.

As it was noted yesterday, Lady Pearl Clutcher’s husband was the Major General (UK Army Reserve) in command of a political nudge unit (brigade) until 2020 and the muckraking began in 2019.

JC
JC
September 24, 2023 1:10 pm

Credit card losses are rising at the fastest pace since the Great Financial Crisis

Goldman Sachs predicts credit card losses will continue to climb through the end of 2024/early 2025.
What is unusual is that the losses are accelerating outside of an economic downturn, the firm said.
Credit card losses currently stand at 3.63%, up 1.5 percentage points from the bottom.

Credit card companies are racking up losses at the fastest pace in almost 30 years, outside of the Great Financial Crisis, according to Goldman Sachs.

Credit card losses bottomed in September 2021, and while initial increases were likely reversals from stimulus, they have been rapidly rising since the first quarter of 2022. Since that time, it’s an increasing rate of losses only seen in recent history during the recession of 2008.

It is far from over, the firm predicts.

Losses currently stand at 3.63%, up 1.5 percentage points from the bottom, and Goldman sees them rising another 1.3 percentage points to 4.93%. This comes at a time when Americans owe more than $1 trillion on credit cards, a record high, according to the Federal Reserve Bank of New York.

“We think delinquencies could continue to underperform seasonality through the middle of next year and don’t see losses peaking until late 2024 / early 2025 for most issuers,” analyst Ryan Nash wrote in a note Friday.

What is unusual is that the losses are accelerating outside of an economic downturn, he pointed out.

We’ve seen a material and very quick rise in interest rates over the past 18 months, with some credit card companies now hitting 20% on the cost of credit. Meanwhile, this dunderhead reckons it’s unusual outside of a recession without recognizing the stress these almost sudden (and unusual) rises have caused.

Dot
Dot
September 24, 2023 1:12 pm

I did realise that I would probably be mistaken for Graeme Bird some time after typing Elk in, and I will probably have to pick a different name at some stage. The only thing I can say is that from what I have seen, his more recent pseudonyms seem to be more along the lines of ‘Cyber Elf Snow Goblin’ these days, he seems to have veered away from your basic animal name pseudonym and moved up a dimension.

LOL!

Roy Cohn Machine Elf is something I expect from Bird.

Oh come on
Oh come on
September 24, 2023 1:13 pm

The ABC presents some of the most privileged people in Australia having a whine about their grievances:

Women in media on sexism and the things that still need to change in newsrooms

Crack out the world’s smallest violin for this one.

By the way, the article is just promotional copy for some ABC TV series about a newsroom in the 1980s. Original stuff! Is the main character’s name going to be Don Beaujolais? Will he sign off from his nightly newsread with ‘let’s remain classy, Melbourne’?

Setting that aside, a gripe of one of the poor suffering oppressed rich media women featured in the article is that the ABC series shows too much brown skin in the newsroom for it to be a realistic depiction. My goodness. If the director went for realism in this respect, the same woman would complain about the lack of diversity in the cast! You just can’t win with these people (and yes, that’s the way they like it).

Rosie
Rosie
September 24, 2023 1:14 pm

whined piteously

I can see why you never became a journalist.
If fantasy football falls over there’s a big opportunity beckoning in the field of bleating bodice rippers.
‘Generous applause’ followed by ‘respectful silence’.

Rosie
Rosie
September 24, 2023 1:16 pm

Also that purple drank that Fanta are currently flogging, please buy a dozen dozen bottles Monty, you’ll just adore it.

Dot
Dot
September 24, 2023 1:18 pm

Don Beaujolais

More like Haywood Jablome, Havwood Shapely, Richard P Crick or Grappa Mamma Rees.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
September 24, 2023 1:18 pm

Wow just waded through the news.com sewer. They are going full bore on these claytons Nazis in Melbourne and smearing the no rally by association.

This is what passes for journalism these days hey?

JC
JC
September 24, 2023 1:18 pm

Funny comment, OCO. Nice one.

damon
damon
September 24, 2023 1:21 pm

The famous aboriginal connection to country is a farce. Almost none of them (apart from a few elites) have ever left the country.

JC
JC
September 24, 2023 1:22 pm

Rock D

Are there any pics or vids of these ANTIFA nazis? It’s so funny. The American left was pulling this stunt around the time of the BLM riots and sure enough, the Australian left catches on.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 24, 2023 1:23 pm

<>

If they (neo-Nazis) have such a long history but remain a fringe group of noisy but harmless loons, why is Hunchback so obsessed with them?

Nazis, neo or otherwise, would not find a home amongst conservatives, or even ‘The Right’. They would detest Australia’s right as being too far left. Obviously our preference for democracy and the mixed prescriptions it produces would offend their doctrinaire natures. The right is racially mixed – white, brown, black, even rangas! Me dear old sainted Mum would come home from Mass telling of the cheeky sense of humour of this priest (from Africa), or the stories from another priest (from Vietnam) as to how much he was enjoying life in Orange, NSW and hoped to be kept there.

The left reckon they are not racist because they have developed a desperately tortured calculus wherein everyone is defined by their race and are deliberately placed in pigeonholes into an arrangement that the left tells themselves represents non-racism. When they insist some role be reserved for a person of a particular complexion they congratulate themselves for having secured for that person a role that they believe no one of that colour could have achieved by merit.

The left love abstraction in the form of simplification, such as takes away all the fiddly bits. The individual is always the first thing thrown out. They have simple doctrines, adamantine axioms, and an ever-erupting volcano of moral superiority.

The assume their opponents are the same and opposite, with an appetite for evil like a black hole. We are as race obsessed as them but in an evil way. As aware of social inequity but in striving to increase the injustice.

That is how they see us.

Everyone that is not like them is ‘right’, hence conservatives, libertarians, and Nazis all believe the same horrid things. They think they can depict conservatives as Nazis, even as conservatives despise their ideas.

And the lest will never ever ever recognise that the only traditional difference between their ideological forebears and the Nazis was the old socialists toyed with an infantile idea of economics while the Nazis based their beliefs on race – especially as the modern socialists now all speak about race.

<>

Rosie
Rosie
September 24, 2023 1:24 pm

It makes sense that people in aged care etc, don’t have to reapply for a postal vote every time.
I don’t see the sinister, I guess we’ll get some idea when the referendum is completed.
In view of the results of the last four five federal elections I think I have a little more confidence in the system than some.
general postal voter

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 24, 2023 1:24 pm

JC
Sep 24, 2023 12:46 PM
You know, it’s a pretty incredible world we live in. Brand is cancelled, and his livelihood may be gone forever because of something he may have or may not have done 20 years ago or more.

He’s on Rumble with 1.5 million followers …. increasing daily.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 24, 2023 1:25 pm

Crap, those <> tags are supposed to be rant-tags.

Rosie
Rosie
September 24, 2023 1:26 pm
Makka
Makka
September 24, 2023 1:29 pm

The Dems, parasites for OPM;

Trillion-Dollar Industry Powering Chicago at Risk of Leaving
Slew of taxes threatens future of Chicago as a finance hub
Trading firms, exchanges want new mayor to curb surging crime

Any firm mulling a move would likely get a friendly reception from economic development officials in Texas, Florida or other Sun Belt states that have seen a wave of relocations since the start of the pandemic. New York and California have each lost companies that managed close to $1 trillion of assets.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-09-18/trillion-dollar-industry-powering-chicago-is-at-risk-of-leaving?utm_content=markets&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&cmpid%3D=socialflow-twitter-markets&utm_campaign=socialflow-organic

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 24, 2023 1:32 pm

JC
Sep 24, 2023 1:22 PM
Rock D

Are there any pics or vids of these ANTIFA nazis? It’s so funny. The American left was pulling this stunt around the time of the BLM riots and sure enough, the Australian left catches on.

Remember the bunch who “marched” in DC not too long after Jan 6? Identical tan chinos and shirts, plastic shields, and all with face masks.

When some nearby unsympathetic types started to rip off their masks, they dropped the plastic shields they were carrying, ran back to their (FBI??) bus, and scarpered like Brave Sir Robin.

Clearly Glowies, as the Grampian Nasties also seem to be (with Fat Boy as their version of Goebbels).

Barry
Barry
September 24, 2023 1:35 pm

Rosie
Sep 24, 2023 1:26 PM

If you are concerned volunteer to scrutineer.
Link to AEC site.
preliminary scrutiny of declaration votes (postal, early, mobile, absent, provisional and marked-as-voted votes)

There is no opportunity for scrutiny or supervision of the votes while they are in the custody of Computershare.

It is a major defect in chain-of-custody of the votes.

The US Republicans are only starting to wake up.

There is no reason to promote postal voting other than to tamper with the vote.
There is no reason for computerised voting machines other than to tamper with the vote.

Voting in person, with ID, and a finger dipped in ink is the path to a fair vote.

3rd world countries can see that – but most are too convinced of the good intentions of the State to see it.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 24, 2023 1:37 pm

Barry

Voting in person, with ID, and a finger dipped in ink is the path to a fair vote.

Indeed, with “assisted” votes in nursing homes and the like strictly supervised by scrutineers.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 24, 2023 1:43 pm

The right is racially mixed – white, brown, black, even rangas!

Steady on.

A society can be inclusive, and simultaneously keep the rangas on as servants.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
September 24, 2023 1:45 pm

Listening to a fair bit of Spotify, going round and round on a tractor. I was piggybacking on a mate’s account, now back to the free app, and so algorithmically generated music feed, as well as lots of ads. The breakdown, apart from Spotify’s own promos, would be roughly one third gambling, one third jobs with exciting labour hire oppurtunities with exciting industries, and the rest Army recruitment, fast food…
And Universities.
The current jive-talking You Dubyay ad is calling future drivers of social change, to study social work so you can make social outcomes with real social dividends.
And there is another from Enid Blyton, which, I swear, says “discover ways to 3-D print new food from old.”
It also touches on the “we’ll make you into a creative thinker” rubbish trope, but that’s just glitter on the bumcheeks of the whole gay parade. I can’t think of what else they’re saying, if my brain had Mondegreen’d it… “new food from old” is actually more terrifying than Soylent Green. At least Soylent Green is going to be fresh produce, so to speak.

JC
JC
September 24, 2023 1:46 pm

There is no opportunity for scrutiny or supervision of the votes while they are in the custody of Computershare.

It is a major defect in chain-of-custody of the votes.

How do you know there aren’t any scrutineers holed up at Computershare?

Dot
Dot
September 24, 2023 1:48 pm

D’Rango Untanned was my favourite Rangaploitation film.

David Warner is starting in an avant- grade remake…

Dot
Dot
September 24, 2023 1:49 pm

Whoops

Starring

An actress with gravitas will be the house Ranga. I’m thinking, Our Nicole?

Dot
Dot
September 24, 2023 1:51 pm

O’Ranga’ed Soylent Lite for me, please.

  1. I almost more offended by the sloppy language.Given that we are carbon based life forms and everything around us is…

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