Open Thread – Mon 25 Sept 2023


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Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
September 25, 2023 12:30 am

COYS

Salvatore, Iron Publican
September 25, 2023 12:32 am

The Productivity Commission report on Indigenous expenditure in 2017 put the figure at $33 B
(a) This is a shedload higher – almost Thirty Billion higher – than the supergeniuses on Das Projekt jibed at Kamahl over.
(b) This is 6 years ago, what would today’s figure be?

Kamahl is correct, The Project beta soys owe him an apology.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
September 25, 2023 12:37 am

Salvatore, Iron Publican
Sep 25, 2023 12:32 AM
The Productivity Commission report on Indigenous expenditure in 2017 put the figure at $33 B

One of Tennis Elbow’s Election Manifesto lies was greater transparency. LOL. So how about the latest figures for 2023. Hidden down in the Feral Budget details I guess. FFS.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
September 25, 2023 12:59 am

It’s been about 6 hours.
Has Kamahl changed his mind yet?

Salvatore, Iron Publican
September 25, 2023 1:17 am

The Australian:

Pieface attack on NT Chief Minister Natasha Fyles prompts alarm over security for politicians

I missed the alarm when Tony Abbott was headbutted in the street, & when Fraser Anning was attacked from behind.

Perhaps I just don’t pay attention to the important stuff.

(The internet is alive tonight, if I read one more joke about the NT Chief Minister being cream-pied by a constituent, I’ll hit the bottle)

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 25, 2023 2:35 am

We have ended up in Montepulchiano, area of Vin Noble, which is one of my favorite tipples. It’s not far from Sienna. We did an ambling tourist drive today through the World Heritage listed Val D’Orcia here, which is where Tuscany does its Toscana thing. Here are those fabled palazzos and farm homsteads with pencil cyprus-lined driveways and other cyprus surrounding their soft yellow buildings on hilltops throughout this glorious golden vista of rolling hills. Gone is the green-tree dream being foisted on all open agricultural land elsewhere in Tuscany, that terminates traditional vistas as it does in Australia, and here is still the rough stubble, remains of the season’s harvest, and thick gray-ochre ploughed fields on the open hillsides, ready for next season’s planting, as has been done since Etruscan times here.

Eat your heart out Russell Crowe, for here is where Maximus in Gladiator dreamed his return to his darling wife and child in a Roman rural idyll. Here is where in TV’s ‘Succession’ the helicopters flew in the outrageously rich to enjoy the splendour of a Tuscan wedding on these hilltops. This is Italy in capital letters, where lunch in a splendid restaurant overlooking such a vista was our pleasure, with porc and plums for me and bifstek and special mushrooms for Hairy.

We arrived last night into our Agritouristo farmhouse stay, which is a thing around here, to stay in a comfortable arched-windowed room laced overhead with ancient ceiling beams. There are iron latches on its heavy centuries-old oak doors, made from great oaks like the two at the entrance to this property. It opens onto a private terrace overlookng a steep forested gulley where I sit writing this. Hedges of tall Rosemary line a fence along one side and purple crepe myrtle flowers nearby.

On arrival we were greeted by a huge shaggy dog of the Alsation type, who scared me witless announcing his arrival by thrusting his nose up my bum as I leaned back into the car to collect my handbag. He is only four months old and turns out to be super friendly, as is the other dog and three cats. As we walked around this large farmhouse to our room a very close gunshot took my wits to task again. That is the hunter in the forest says our hostess, telling us in broken English that he is allowed to hunt as Covid has increased the numbers of feral ‘porc’ and ‘bambi’.

We give up all thought of a gentle forest walk before dinner.

At dinner, we drank this farm’s own vintage with some remarkably good home-made pasta. She is cooking us up another storm tonight.

We head for Bologna tomorrow.

Gabor
Gabor
September 25, 2023 2:53 am

bifstek and special mushrooms for Hairy.

Hope he is still with us tomorrow.

Only Joking, only joking!!! Bad joke as it happens but I couldn’t help myself.
Mea culpa, mea maxima culpa.

Black Ball
Black Ball
September 25, 2023 3:38 am

Tits is annoyed. Daily Telegraph:

Criminal syndicates lodging false disability claims and unethical providers who siphon cash from legitimate recipients are under investigation for defrauding almost half a billion dollars from the NDIS, as the federal government warns it is closing in on “crooks and rent seekers” ripping off the scheme.

A crackdown on dodgy NDIS claims and illegal activity has resulted in 58 active cases of suspected fraud totalling more than $405 million under review, including 22 incidents in NSW, eight each in Victoria and Queensland, and three in South Australia.

Cases include a Western Sydney man charged over a $3.3m alleged fraud, two men in Adelaide charged with 19 fraud related offences totalling $465,000 and a Brisbane man charged with more than 25 offences for $430,000 in fraud.

Also in Sydney a man found to be the ringleader of a six-person criminal syndicate that claimed $10m in NDIS funding was recently jailed for three years.

NDIS and Government Services Minister Bill Shorten said there were already signs the activity of the government’s Fraud Fusion Taskforce launched last October was driving wrongdoers out of the sector

“I take this as a small, tiny green shoot of positive good news that the number of NDIS businesses people are starting to try and sell now is increasing,” he said.

“Which means to me that the words out … the ‘good times’ coming to an end for unethical behaviour.”

Mr Shorten said with each raid and investigation the “patterns of cheating” the NDIS were becoming clearer.

He said unethical providers price gouging and overcharging were just as damaging as organised crime groups using fake identities, addresses and other illegal means of defrauding the scheme.

“This is money if it wasn’t ripped off by crooks, would be going to quadriplegics and people with vision impairment,” he said.

“This doesn’t mean the scheme is bad, it just means there’s some bad people trying to take advantage.”

Mr Shorten said he was hopeful a review of the scheme due in October would provide ideas to “lock up the back doors of the system” to prevent fraud and vowed to implement any necessary changes to the law as soon as possible.

“If legislative changes are required, I’d want to be doing it by the first (parliament sitting) session of next year,” he said.

The types of fraud being detected include individuals and organised crime groups who are promising people cash or gifts to try and get access to the NDIS, encouraging people to access the scheme with fake medical evidence and diagnosis, or changing real evidence to falsely increase a person’s NDIS budget.

Some investigations also relate to claiming for services that were never delivered and the targeting NDIS participants with false information about how the scheme works, and how to spend their funds.

In many cases fraudsters have been found hiding behind multiple businesses or using fake identities, contact details or fake addresses.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
September 25, 2023 3:49 am

Some investigations also relate to claiming for services that were never delivered and the targeting NDIS participants with false information about how the scheme works, and how to spend their funds.

And none of this could possibly have been predicted in advance. Not by bureaucrats, at least.

Any conspiracy theories that credit the parasitic class with superior intelligence falls apart as soon as you think about their total inability to make obvious predictions.

Black Ball
Black Ball
September 25, 2023 3:49 am

Just checking Premier League results and Liverpool get the 3 points over West Ham. Then see Newcastle put 8 past Sheffield United. A pasting of the highest order.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
September 25, 2023 3:53 am

Lizzie your travelogue was a joy to read – Bologna is called La Grassa ( the fat one) because its fabulous food – Chin chin and salute! Safe travels – ciao

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
September 25, 2023 3:56 am

The NDIS is a creature designed by the beauraucracy -hence the outcome we see today

Tom
Tom
September 25, 2023 4:00 am
Tom
Tom
September 25, 2023 4:01 am
Tom
Tom
September 25, 2023 4:02 am
Tom
Tom
September 25, 2023 4:03 am
Tom
Tom
September 25, 2023 4:04 am
Gabor
Gabor
September 25, 2023 4:05 am

DrBeauGan
Sep 25, 2023 3:49 AM

And none of this could possibly have been predicted in advance. Not by bureaucrats, at least.

Any conspiracy theories that credit the parasitic class with superior intelligence falls apart as soon as you think about their total inability to make obvious predictions.

I’ve had the ‘pleasure’ to meet and employ some who had the intelligence below the measuring scale, but had the cunning intelligence to lash onto any scheme going at the time that would pay without doing any work.

They are way ahead of any bureaucrats.
Government agencies are always in a catch-up mode.

Tom
Tom
September 25, 2023 4:05 am
Tom
Tom
September 25, 2023 4:07 am
Tom
Tom
September 25, 2023 4:08 am
Tom
Tom
September 25, 2023 4:10 am
Tom
Tom
September 25, 2023 4:11 am
Tom
Tom
September 25, 2023 4:11 am
DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
September 25, 2023 4:40 am

Thanks Tom.

Win
Win
September 25, 2023 5:11 am

To fight crime in the NDIS remember it was Julia Gillards reason to reduce unemployment .The ALP have a history of using a front eg The Aboriginal community for sleight of hand manoeuvres and distraction publicity.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 25, 2023 5:14 am

Forgot to mention too that today we visited this chapel built first in 1533 where legend says a vision of the Virgin appeared to a shepherdess on the hillside. The road to it is not very well signposted and as I was navigating we took a wrong turn, ending up on a rutted farm cart track along a ridge where turning around was impossible till luckily we reached a dereict building where Hairy managed to do what he calls one of his seventeen-point turns. When we found the right turn off, the walk to the chapel from the carpark, about one km, did us both good and the interior of it is quite special. Not too many international tourists around at all in this lovely vale, tourists are mostly Italians from the north, where we’re headed next. Some speak German and call themselves German-speaking Italians.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 25, 2023 5:17 am

The large Alsatian-like puppy here I mentioned earlier is six months not four months old. He went to his first puppy-school day this weekend. He must learn to greet visiting adult human females with more decorum when checking out our credentials. lol.

Petros
Petros
September 25, 2023 5:59 am

Salvatore, how can one support your pub? It’s nice to support others of like mind.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 25, 2023 6:00 am

The Band of Debunkers Busting Bad Scientists
Stanford’s president and a high-profile physicist are among those taken down by a growing wave of volunteers who expose faulty or fraudulent research papers

https://www.wsj.com/science/data-colada-debunk-stanford-president-research-14664f3?mod=djem10point

Paywalled.
A great read if you can access.

Beertruk
Beertruk
September 25, 2023 6:03 am

Tim Blair in today’s Tele:

PARIAHS, OR ARE WE JUST A NATION AHEAD OF ITS
TIME?

TIM BLAIR
Monday 26 Sep 2023

Certain Australians have always felt tremendous shame about our beautiful, peaceful, friendly nation.
They believe that Australia, viewed from enlightened foreign aspects, is a backwards, small-minded place –
bitterly and irrationally hostile to outsiders and their superior ways.
They are mortified, or claim to be mortified, by how far Australia falls short of European sophistication.
These types, overwhelmingly of the left, are basically insecure and self-hating snobs whose notions of
themselves are formed entirely by others.
They’re the adult equivalent of kids who demand to be dropped off three blocks away from school due to being
ashamed of their parents’ car (understandable these days if it’s an EV. Easy, too, because EVs often spark out
prior to reaching intended destinations).
And nothing distresses our anti-Australia crew more than democratic political leadership of which they
disapprove. Mention former Prime Minister John Howard to these people and even now, some 16 years after
Howard was voted out of office (and out of his own seat), they’ll rage and foam with fury.
One line from Howard, improvised during his successful 2001 election campaign, particularly wounded our
pro-sophistication colonial cringe community.
Speaking of Australia’s quest to halt illegal immigration, Howard memorably declared: “We will decide who
comes to this country and the circumstances in which they come.”
Seems reasonable enough, but those words and the Howard government’s border-protecting deeds boosted
various individuals to peak claims of shame.
Notably, they decided that merely safeguarding our borders – philosophically identical, although on a larger
scale, to putting up a fence or locking your house door – caused the rest of the world to hate us.
“Australia is rapidly becoming an international pariah,” former Family Court chief justice Alastair Nicholson
wrote in 2014, “riding roughshod over solemn treaty obligations into which it has entered like the
International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, the UN Refugee Convention and the UN Convention on the
Rights of the Child.”
Whatever you say, your judginess. Although “solemn treaty obligations” sounds like a terrific excuse the next
time I roll up to home at 3am.
“Australia has become an international pariah,” former Australian immigration detention doctor John-Paul
Sanggaran announced in 2015.
“Our policies and treatment of people fleeing persecution, war and torture are infamous for their cruelty and
selfishness.”
Woo-hoo! If Australia was a mega-selling mid-’90s super songbird with a five-octave vocal range we’d be
Pariah Carey. Our hard-earned international shame kept keeping time with our successful border shutdowns.
Of course those whose strategies threw open Australia’s borders weren’t too happy about it.
“We should be leading the global policy debate,” ex-PM Kevin Rudd wrote in 2016, offering a familiar
concluding phrase: “Not turning ourselves into some pariah state.”
Yet Aussie travellers, then and now, rarely encounter any anti-Australian sentiment, much less the sort of
hostility you’d expect for pariahs.
Once or twice I’ve been asked why Australia has no nuclear power plants, but that question assumes confusion
or superstition on our parts rather than evil.
And a New Orleans friend just came right out and said it during our Covid lockdowns: “What happened to
Australia’s testicles?”
Along with the role of the states, that crucial question is beyond the remit of Prime Minister Anthony
Albanese’s inquiry-avoiding pandemic inquiry.
Likewise, we haven’t heard much this week from believers in the Australian pariah theory. They seem to have
fallen oddly silent on immigration issues ever since a compelling recent statement from European Commission
president Ursula von der Leyen.
You’ll recall Howard’s words: “We will decide who comes to this country and the circumstances in which they
come.”
Well, here’s sophisticated Euro boss von der Leyen during a visit last week to the refugee-swamped Italian
island of Lampedusa: “We will decide who comes to the European Union and under what circumstances.”
Twenty years late, but Europe has finally caught up with the solid good sense of Howard and the voters who
elected him.
As The Australian’s foreign editor Greg Sheridan told Sky News, this is all quite a shift.
“Now you’ve got the European Union, the most politically correct body on the planet, actually quoting
Howard’s words,” he said.
“Actually, you hear this all around the world and all around America.”
Not bad. For pariahs.

Beertruk
Beertruk
September 25, 2023 6:05 am

Meanwhile Wales 16 Wobblies 6.

Wobblies playing like hapless water buffalo…sigh…

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 25, 2023 6:16 am

Do the Wallabies go home if they lose this?
Or do they just need every result to go their way from now on?

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 25, 2023 6:25 am

32-6.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 25, 2023 6:28 am

If the Wallabies come back from this it would be bigger than the Patriots v Falcons.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 25, 2023 6:32 am

Do the Wallabies go home if they lose this?
Or do they just need every result to go their way from now on?

They need Fiji to lose against Portugal and Georgia.

Dot
Dot
September 25, 2023 6:36 am

Ireland must be favourites by now.

Ireland v Wales would be glorious in the final.

Give Billy Webb to the Irish
Don’t make them take him away

Give Billy Webb to the Irish
Make Billy Webb Irish today!

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 25, 2023 7:01 am

High drama in the Territory continues (the NT Indy):

…. sources told the NT Independent that the woman suspected of throwing the cream-filled crepe was arrested late Sunday and is expected to be charged with assault.

State media, the NT News, reported that a “witness” said the incident had “deeply upset the Chief Minister” and that she was “very shocked”.

Multiple sources told the NT Independent the woman said she was angry with Ms Fyles as Health Minister in relation to problems or delays around surgery for her husband, believed to be during the pandemic, and allegations that Ms Fyles ignored personal appeals by the woman.

The woman’s identity could not be confirmed last night.

As if this wasn’t expected.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
September 25, 2023 7:07 am

Ms Fyles is deeply upset.
Put on two face nappies and get another booster, that ought to fix it.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 25, 2023 7:07 am

sources told the NT Independent that the woman suspected of throwing the cream-filled crepe was arrested late Sunday and is expected to be charged with assault.

More than likely a Grampians nazi with a poor sense of direction.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 25, 2023 7:09 am

I expect we’ll know more over the next 48 hours about the cream pier than the white robed car chap from Melbourne .

shatterzzz
September 25, 2023 7:12 am

Good news day! ..
crime levels are so low in Oz the media has to go to Serbia for a headline .. FFS! ..
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-09-25/kosovo-police-monastery-siege-armoured-vehicles-serbian/102895892

Dot
Dot
September 25, 2023 7:18 am

I dunno.

Three years for 10 mn of fraud almost seems worth it if the Commonwealth cannot recover the assets.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
September 25, 2023 7:19 am

BTW
Bought a new Kelpie at the Lucindale sheepdog auction yesterday.
Ted is the name – Big Ted.
A magic day, well run by the locals with lots of quality food and drinks to be had and terrific entertainment provided by the dog vendors as they put the four legged geniuses through their paces.
A cold beer while you’re bidding loosens up the purse strings – $5,500 for Ted.
Ted’s a partly trained pup but a fully trained bitch named Rosie topped out at $19,000.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 25, 2023 7:21 am

For Tucker fans, he’s been in Switzerland and Dubai:

“Our System Is Collapsing In Real Time”: Tucker Carlson Gives Bombshell Interview (24 Sep)

Beertruk
Beertruk
September 25, 2023 7:28 am

$5,500 for Ted.
Ted’s a partly trained pup but a fully trained bitch named Rosie topped out at $19,000.

Still cheaper in the long run than training a farmhand. 😉

Min
Min
September 25, 2023 7:30 am

Hi Lizzie you are in Iris Origo country in Montepulciano Her place now a beautiful garden open to visitors She has a fascinating history wrote merchant of Prato her first book and helped many during War including rescuing children.

Beertruk
Beertruk
September 25, 2023 7:31 am

Final score Wales 40 Wobblies 6.
The End.

calli
calli
September 25, 2023 7:32 am

the woman suspected of throwing the cream-filled crepe was arrested

She should have just spat at her.

shatterzzz
September 25, 2023 7:33 am

I’ll just slip this in to brighten up Monday morning …..!
Toon 8 .. Sheffield United 0 ……..

calli
calli
September 25, 2023 7:33 am

40-6

Castle’s work is now complete.

calli
calli
September 25, 2023 7:36 am

Kamahl, Kamahl, Kamahl Chameleon.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 25, 2023 7:36 am

Oh joy, more of them.

Environmentalist Owner of Private Jet Forms “Planetary Guardians” (24 Sep)

While in New York for the United Nations General Assembly, Virgin Group founder Richard Branson shared details of his next endeavor: combating climate change.

The billionaire British businessman announced Monday that his newest investment would be in his coalition, Planetary Guardians — composed of 14 world leaders who say they are taking a “whole planet” approach to “safeguard” Earth.

His new coalition includes a range of people, from actors, such as Robert Redford, to activists like Jane Goodall, to politicians, like former Colombian president Juan Manuel Santos, NBC reported.

Maybe Branson should shut down Virgin-the-airline. It must emit quite a lot of CO2, after all. I am sick of rich hypocrites saving the world. If they only left it alone it’d be just fine.

shatterzzz
September 25, 2023 7:38 am

The Kamahl effect ..!
Yesterday the Blue Bet betting YES .. $4.20 …. NO $1.20
Today ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, YES .. $5,25 … NO $1.12
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12554823/Kamahl-backflips-Voice-backs-No.html

Vicki
Vicki
September 25, 2023 7:38 am

The humiliating defeat of the Wallabies by Wales in the World Cup preliminary will cause many to reflect once again in the disgraceful treatment of Israel Folau by the Rugby hierarchy.

Vicki
Vicki
September 25, 2023 7:40 am

Absolutely Calli!

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 25, 2023 7:41 am

Three years for 10 mn of fraud almost seems worth it if the Commonwealth cannot recover the assets.

I reckon Tits’ solution will be a new bureaucracy tasked with ‘cracking down’ on fraud but which will in fact simply add another layer of paperwork, petty-fiefdom building, rivalry, lack of communication, and the delineation of responsibilities will create even more cracks for cunning criminal types to exploit.

Guess what the solution will be then?

calli
calli
September 25, 2023 7:44 am

Yes, I thought about Izzy when I read the score. It takes a long time to ruin a close-knit team, then it happens all at once.

They went for Folau, then his family. All because he quoted the Bible and stood by what he said. Not lost on the Christians in the team.

Vicki
Vicki
September 25, 2023 7:47 am

Lizzie – you must be in the Sud-Tyrol. Gosh – havnt been there in many decades. Good for Hairy – you have hired a car – the only way to really see the countryside- although the roads up there can be quite scary.

Vicki
Vicki
September 25, 2023 7:54 am

What a con job the NDIS was. I recall Shorten addressing the Sydney Institute all those years ago during the last Labor government when it was being planned. He had a couple with him who had a disabled child & hadn’t had a holiday in many years. Of course everyone was absolutely sympathetic. He portrayed the scheme as set up to give such people relief. It was described as just an insurance scheme for such people.

If it had have eventuated as such an organisation it would have been welcome. But like all Labor welfare pipe dreams it was a disaster in the making.

lotocoti
lotocoti
September 25, 2023 7:57 am

40-6
Forgot which pride guernsey they were playing for.

Rosie
Rosie
September 25, 2023 7:58 am

Democracies typically guard against a majority mistreating a minority, in part, by enshrining foundational rights and liberties in a constitution that is difficult to change democratically.

Except that the invoice is not addressing ‘mistreatment’ (and neither did the ssm plebiscite).

Let’s just go for some form of anarchy instead, shall we.
I’m sure groups that want child and polygamous marriage would welcome it.
Is it ethical that non-Indigenous people get to decide on the Voice? Is it OK for one group to have rights others don’t? An ethicist explains

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 25, 2023 8:01 am

More EV woes.

Values Of Used EVs Plummet, As Dealers Stuck With Unsold Cars (24 Sep)

The average cost of second hand electric cars is plummeting by a “phenomenal amount” as they sit for “months on end” without any buyers.

Completely unsurprising, since per another UK story I linked last week it turns out 75% of new EVs are sold to company and fleet buyers doing their virtuous ESG religious observance.

As those vehicles get replaced by the fleets they’re sold onto the used car market. But ordinary proles don’t want a used EV – they’re still too expensive and there’s always the risk of the battery dying very expensively. Going to be fun as more time goes by and this issue builds and builds.

Rosie
Rosie
September 25, 2023 8:01 am

I’d say working exactly how it was expected to when rivers of taxpayers’ money is there for the diverting.
People with disabilities are being ‘trafficked’ for their NDIS funding, insiders say

Rosie
Rosie
September 25, 2023 8:02 am

Yes I meant ‘are’.

calli
calli
September 25, 2023 8:04 am

From Sky:

Anthony Albanese said he was positive “Kamahl-mentum” would pick up steam ahead of the referendum after Australian singer Kamahl said he had changed his stance on the Voice, conceding his No was “flippant” and “uneducated”.

That didn’t age well.

Like a E-scooter battery.

Kaboom!

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 25, 2023 8:05 am

Still cheaper in the long run than training a farmhand.

Many years ago I shore at a station which had a calamity.

They managed to poison nearly all their working dogs by putting some baits too close to the homestead.
They had 2 left, one which was almost a pup and Methuselah the grey, last of his line, with about 2 teeth left in its head.

I’ve never seen such a Labor intensive muster, must have cost a fortune in wages for the muster/ motorbikes etc..
So an estimate what I’d expect to be rounded up by 4 blokes and as many dogs was a dozen blokes instead.

Working dogs are huge help to farmers.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 25, 2023 8:14 am

JC from the old fred.

JC

Sep 24, 2023 12:09 PM

…….

And you don’t either Nakkas, which is why I highlighted your stupid comment about Bird who’s banned here. You moron, he ruins blogs

Correct.
And also Dot at 12:13 PM yesterday articulating the many reasons Bird is a menace.
And who was the other bint who got banned for posting all that “25 famous Australians accused of pedophilia” and “children in tunnels” stuff?

P
P
September 25, 2023 8:18 am

Churches seek exemption for religious belief in misinformation bill
25 September 2023

Former judge Patrick Parkinson says Labor’s proposed laws to combat online misinformation will send it down a “dangerous path” of censorship, cautioning that religious teachings and claims about gender identity could be captured by the bill. Source: The Australian.

He wrote a submission to government on behalf of Christian think tank Freedom of Faith and the Australian Baptist Ministries, Australian Christian Churches, Anglican Church Diocese of Sydney and the Seventh-day Adventist Church. In the submission, Professor Parkinson said the bill’s “potential for conflicts of interest, abuse of power and censorship of ‘inconvenient truths’ is enormous”.

lotocoti
lotocoti
September 25, 2023 8:18 am

Found an actual nasty for mØnty to punch.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 25, 2023 8:23 am

lotocoti

A 92 year old might, just might, be within Fat Boy mUnty’s physical capacity, as long as the target is not allowed to run away.

Tom
Tom
September 25, 2023 8:23 am

A cold beer while you’re bidding loosens up the purse strings – $5,500 for Ted.

Congratulations, Farmer Gez. $5K is a bargain for a good kelpie sheep dog. Ted will pay for himself many times over.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
September 25, 2023 8:25 am

Lizzie, a lot of Tedeschi bought farms in northern and central Italy in the 90’s- their input of capital allowed them to conform to the terrifying strictures which the government demanded of any alterations to the UNESCO listed heritage areas.
Worked in the Toscana-Maremma for six months in 2001- that triangle between Sienna, Prato and Grosetto. Prato was the local village.
There’s a saying from farmers I can’t remember in eyetalian, but it goes “I hope our daughter marries a nice German, who works in Brussels and sends lots of money home, and I hope she has many lovely children with the boy next door.”

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
September 25, 2023 8:27 am

*sorry, Pari was my local.
My farm also had an ancient cavernous oven, we baked for Sunday markets in Prato and Sienna. Prato is where what we know as biscotti, cantuccini, were born.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
September 25, 2023 8:28 am

The dog was named Clyde but I’ve changed it to Ted.
Couldn’t stomach Clyde.
He’s a pup and with the change of boss he’ll pick up his new moniker in no time.

m0nty
m0nty
September 25, 2023 8:29 am

Notable that while the Voice is tanking, Dutton’s ratings continue to plummet, Albo is up by 20 points for preferred leader and Labor is still up by eight points 2PP.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 25, 2023 8:30 am

$5,500 for Ted.
Ted’s a partly trained pup

People pay that for a Cavoodle or King Charles Cavalier spaniel to lay around and do nothing.

calli
calli
September 25, 2023 8:31 am

During Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy’s visit to Ottawa on Friday, MPs honoured 98-year-old Yaroslav Hunka in the House of Commons.

“He is a Ukrainian hero, a Canadian hero, and we thank him for all his service.”

“ The First Ukrainian Division was also known as the Waffen-SS Galicia Division or the SS 14th Waffen Division, a voluntary unit that was under the command of the Nazis.”

But…but…Russell Brand!

shatterzzz
September 25, 2023 8:33 am

.. can’t believe what I do to myself sometimes, I duzn’t! ..
Yesterday out wiv the youngest daughter to the CommBank Stadia to see the, migg-ety, North Sydney Bears play in their 1st Grand Final in 20 years .. 24 years since departing the NRL but little improvement winning-wize .. I tellz ya! .. beaten 22-18 by Soufs .. could have been a Wallabies scoreline but Soufs weren’t much better than they ……. LOL!
Anywayz the point being I somehow, no idea how … pulled a calf muscle whilst watching the bloody thing! …… duuuuh! .. absolute agony hobbling to the daughter’s car after declining her “I’ll go get it and come back for you” invite …… age & a brave face aren’t my finest assets …..!
Up this morning and seemed a sight better so thought .. Monday .. swim day! .. and off I toddles .. managed 200mts down the road before realising the teeth gritting wasn’t gonna improve my hobblin’ and if I did reach water the return trip might be a pool too far ……. sooooooo that was that back home leg-up, keyboard tapping and an 8 nil scoreline & Kamahl to ease the pain ………
why is life soooo unkind … sometimes …!

Crossie
Crossie
September 25, 2023 8:33 am

By the way, secrecy does not imply wrongdoing. Privacy is a prerequisite for freedom. I have a lock at my bedroom. It doesn’t mean I do anything illegal in my bedroom. I am not a slave; I am a citizen. I can have privacy.

The above is from Tucker Carlson from the interview in the link provided by Bruce of Newcastle. It shows how the left has deformed the world in the last few decades. That was their philosophy and policy in the 80s and 90s yet now they insist that you have no rights even in the privacy of your own mind, you are not allowed to pray even silently near an abortion clinic.

Crossie
Crossie
September 25, 2023 8:37 am

calli
Sep 25, 2023 7:32 AM
the woman suspected of throwing the cream-filled crepe was arrested

She should have just spat at her.

That only works for the politically privileged. Precedent isn’t what it used to be.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 25, 2023 8:39 am

Notable that while the Voice is tanking, Dutton’s ratings continue to plummet, Albo is up by 20 points

Failing upwards?

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
September 25, 2023 8:41 am

One of the great consolations of farming is knowing that you can have a brilliant dog, wholly committed to its life and 100% happy with his lot, too.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 25, 2023 8:42 am

Preferred Prime Minister numbers are irrelevant. Unless like SloMo you drag the whole ship down with you.

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 25, 2023 8:46 am

Thanks for the travel piece Lizzie. Mrs TE wants to go and hang out in the Tuscany area next year for a while, so I am passing your pieces on to her too.

Cassie of Sydney
September 25, 2023 8:46 am

Pieface attack on NT Chief Minister Natasha Fyles prompts alarm over security for politicians

An attack that must be condemned for what it is, outrageous. I don’t want to see politician, any commentator, anybody punched, piefaced, milkshaked, egged or headbutted becaue of their politics.

I missed the alarm when Tony Abbott was headbutted in the street, & when Fraser Anning was attacked from behind.

Indeed, and for far too long right of centre politicians and commentators have been the target of such physical attacks. Remember, our very own comic book Nazi slayer, whose real name is……pervert apologist…..thought that ex-PM Tony Abbott being headbutted in a Hobart Street was a hoot, just like he thought Andrew Bolt being attacked from behind in a Melbourne Street was a hoot. And then, of course, we saw Anning and PM Morrison egged.

There is nothing funny about what happened to Fyles, nothing.

Crossie
Crossie
September 25, 2023 8:48 am

Maybe Branson should shut down Virgin-the-airline. It must emit quite a lot of CO2, after all. I am sick of rich hypocrites saving the world. If they only left it alone it’d be just fine.

All the enviro billionaires are bored and desperately looking for something with which to amuse themselves and right on cue the devil finds work for idle hands. As for hypocrisy, that’s for self-aware and usually poor folks to notice.

Cassie of Sydney
September 25, 2023 8:48 am

Oh look, the pervert apologist is here.

I wonder if he’s punched any Nazis today?

Makka
Makka
September 25, 2023 8:48 am

“He is a Ukrainian hero, a Canadian hero, and we thank him for all his service.”

Promoting the SS as their heroes. I wonder if the Poles feel the same way.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 25, 2023 8:48 am

21m ago
Thorpe says voice campaign ‘absolute nightmare’
Staff writers
Staff writers

Independent Senator Lidia Thorpe has labelled the voice campaign an “absolute nightmare” heading into the referendum.

“Our people are hurting more now, I think, than [during] the George Floyd moment. There are communities being torn apart, families are fighting one another over Yes or No,” Ms Thorpe told ABCRN on Monday.

“What do we get at the end of the day … we get crumbs on the table. And that is not good enough.”

Ms Thorpe called on the government to implement the recommendations of the Deaths in Custody royal commission and Bringing Them Home report.

“I’m asking to give responsibility back to our human rights person at the top level, to look at these recommendations [from] both Deaths in Custody and Bringing them Home,” she said.

“[To] have some action monitoring the implementation and what that looks like, and continue to push for all of those recommendations now.”

– Tayla Couacaud

Cassie of Sydney
September 25, 2023 8:49 am

Preferred Prime Minister numbers are irrelevant. Unless like SloMo you drag the whole ship down with you.”

Correct.

m0nty
m0nty
September 25, 2023 8:50 am

Labor increasing its 2PP while the Voice powders tells you that Albo is not going to be punished for it.

Jorge
Jorge
September 25, 2023 8:52 am

Kamahl, Kamahl, Kamahl Chameleon

Heh, calli.

It’s amusing that this doesn’t qualify as news on the ABC but the Project had him on last night in all his tongue tied inability to take a stand on anything.

somebody at the ABC must know that he would receive a bollocking on their channel and that tearing strips off an elderly, confused brown half wit might not be a good look for the supposed caring and compassionate side in this debate.

Cassie of Sydney
September 25, 2023 8:52 am

If the Voice fails (and I’ll only count my chickens on the night of the vote), Sleazy, if he had any decency and integrity, would do what David Cameron did after the Brexit poll, and resign.

But here’s the rub, unlike Cameron, Sleazy has no decency and no integrity.

Indolent
Indolent
September 25, 2023 8:52 am

That Tucker Carlson interview is amazing.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 25, 2023 8:54 am

Final score Wales 40 Wobblies 6.

If only the Eddie Jones experiment was a prog rock concept album. Back to the drawing board.

calli
calli
September 25, 2023 8:54 am

“What do we get at the end of the day … we get crumbs on the table. And that is not good enough.”

Almost 40bn per annum is hardly “crumbs”, Lidia.

How about directing your basilisk gaze towards the people running the agencies, councils and other representative bodies – it may just be that they aren’t doing their jobs.

bons
bons
September 25, 2023 8:55 am

Will the Chook commission a statue to the Wobblies.
She’s into losers, as long as they are woke.

johanna
johanna
September 25, 2023 8:56 am

High drama in the Territory continues (the NT Indy):

…. sources told the NT Independent that the woman suspected of throwing the cream-filled crepe was arrested late Sunday and is expected to be charged with assault.

The real jaw dropper for me was the report of some other local politician (forget his name) saying how shocked he was, and that he had never seen anything like it in his umpteen years in Darwin.

Yep, the placid, bucolic streets of Darwin have now been violated by someone throwing – a pancake!

Do they ever listen to themselves?

Indolent
Indolent
September 25, 2023 8:59 am
Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
September 25, 2023 9:00 am

The view out of every window in Australia in 2030.

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Anders
Anders
September 25, 2023 9:03 am

A reminder that m0nty came here to laugh when Abbott was headbutted in the street. Classy guy.

Cassie of Sydney
September 25, 2023 9:05 am

“A reminder that m0nty came here to laugh when Abbott was headbutted in the street. Classy guy.”

I hadn’t forgotten.

Indolent
Indolent
September 25, 2023 9:05 am

I don’t know if even the term pathological liar is sufficient to cover her. Even having it being proven a lie is not enough to stop her peddling it.

Hillary Clinton sounds alarm on Putin election meddling, warning ‘he’ll do it again’

m0nty
m0nty
September 25, 2023 9:08 am

Catturd ™
@catturd2

One of the biggest idiots on planet earth.

He picked a fight with Elon and got shadowbanned, so yep, he’s pretty dumb.

Indolent
Indolent
September 25, 2023 9:08 am
Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
September 25, 2023 9:08 am

lotocoti
Sep 25, 2023 7:57 AM
40-6
Forgot which pride guernsey they were playing for.

Another “Quaintarse” success story.

Indolent
Indolent
September 25, 2023 9:10 am
shatterzzz
September 25, 2023 9:12 am

“What do we get at the end of the day … we get crumbs on the table. And that is not good enough.”

I wonder who or what “good cause” Lidia devotes her “crumbs on the table” $210K + freebies a year salary too?

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 25, 2023 9:16 am

Crossie
Sep 25, 2023 8:33 AM
By the way, secrecy does not imply wrongdoing. Privacy is a prerequisite for freedom. I have a lock at my bedroom. It doesn’t mean I do anything illegal in my bedroom. I am not a slave; I am a citizen. I can have privacy.

The above is from Tucker Carlson from the interview in the link provided by Bruce of Newcastle. It shows how the left has deformed the world in the last few decades. That was their philosophy and policy in the 80s and 90s yet now they insist that you have no rights even in the privacy of your own mind, you are not allowed to pray even silently near an abortion

The Great Reversal continues, the leftards have now gone full-on fascist, to an extent even worse than their hysterical imaginings of a “police state” a couple of decades ago.

shatterzzz
September 25, 2023 9:16 am

Yep, the placid, bucolic streets of Darwin have now been violated by someone throwing – a pancake!

Cakes & pies must be bloody expensive in the NT …..!

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 25, 2023 9:17 am

“A reminder that m0nty came here to laugh when Abbott was headbutted in the street. Classy guy.”

All the class of a urinary tract infection.

Shy Ted
Shy Ted
September 25, 2023 9:17 am

There is nothing funny about what happened to Fyles, nothing.

Where have you been for the last 3 years?

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 25, 2023 9:20 am

“What do we get at the end of the day … we get crumbs on the table. And that is not good enough.”

Please, Hidia, might I have some of those $39 billion crumbs? A billion or so would be fine.

Vicki
Vicki
September 25, 2023 9:22 am

If the Voice fails (and I’ll only count my chickens on the night of the vote), Sleazy, if he had any decency and integrity, would do what David Cameron did after the Brexit poll, and resign.

But here’s the rub, unlike Cameron, Sleazy has no decency and no integrity.

Cassie – the problem is the latest poll shows Also with still a lead of around 20 points over Dutton, despite the massive swing to “NO” re the referendum.

Dutton continues to fail to impress the electorate. In my opinion it also tells us a lot about what people crave: the truth. No equivocation, no careful use of words. This is why Jacinta Price is having such an effect on people. This lady is fearless – in every sense of the word. She risks actual physical harm from some male members of “the community” as well as verbal abuse from black and white. But she faces up to the lot of them. And with that openness she looks to the camera and/or audience, and tells it like it is.

THIS is what voters crave. But it takes an exceptional politician – most likely an “outsider” to risk it. Abbott, for all his flaws, was such a politician. But they are few and far between.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 25, 2023 9:23 am

m0nty
Sep 25, 2023 9:08 AM
Catturd ™
@catturd2

One of the biggest idiots on planet earth.

He picked a fight with Elon and got shadowbanned, so yep, he’s pretty dumb.

Yellen is a woman, can’t you tell the difference?

Real Deal
Real Deal
September 25, 2023 9:25 am

This is a heart warming story. One stunning and brave woman’s account of her health battles. My admiration for a great Australian. Let’s hear the Cats’ support for this lovely, gentle lady.

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/kath-kim-star-magda-szubanski-reveals-major-health-update/news-story/322d44ac10553a85645f04e302d3e158

Dot
Dot
September 25, 2023 9:31 am

Struggle with eating?

I say she kicked it’s arse, multiple times over.

She’s got eating figured out to a tee.

She’s an 8th Dan of eating, you might say.

Tom
Tom
September 25, 2023 9:32 am

This is a heart warming story. One stunning and brave woman’s account of her health battles. My admiration for a great Australian.

When are they going to do something about fat chicks?

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 25, 2023 9:32 am

LOL. The pollsters are busily pumping up AnAl’s tyres, to soften the blow should Da InVoice go down in a screaming heap.

The MSM knows which side they prefer in government, even if the referendum fails.

JC
JC
September 25, 2023 9:38 am

Liz

What the hell? Last time I read, you were holed up on a hill top in Malaysia trying to avoid malaria.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 25, 2023 9:41 am

Notable that while the Voice is tanking, Dutton’s ratings continue to plummet, Albo is up by 20 points for preferred leader and Labor is still up by eight points 2PP.

When you look at the Newspoll results you immediately see:

• No trend change in the post-election systematic slump in Albanese’s support as Preferred PM;

• No trend change in the 2023 ‘Anyone But Albanese or Dutton as PM’ result;

• No trend change in the 2023 slump in ALP 2PP.

Despite best efforts of the commentariat, there is a distinct leakage of voting intention on the Voice poll. Hard to speak for the fallen creatures who vote Green, but it’s clear that a significant rump of Labor supporters are unimpressed by the idea of racial preference, or Uncle Luigi’s performance in selling it.

Post Referendum, when the Howler Monkeys get into action, that is going to firm up as deep-set resentment in the base.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 25, 2023 10:08 am

your basilisk gaze

LOL

Roger
Roger
September 25, 2023 10:11 am

Churches seek exemption for religious belief in misinformation bill…Former judge Patrick Parkinson says Labor’s proposed laws to combat online misinformation will send it down a “dangerous path” of censorship, cautioning that religious teachings and claims about gender identity could be captured by the bill. Source: The Australian.

They should be opposing the bill outright, not seeking an exemption.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 25, 2023 10:13 am

an 8th Dan

Ah.

That takes me back.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 25, 2023 10:16 am

Jacinta Price reveals the shocking abuse she received after her phone number was leaked

theaustralian.com.au00:13

By duncan evans
Politics and resources reporter
@Duncanevans01
NCA NewsWire
10:04AM September 25, 2023

The shocking underbelly of the Voice to Parliament referendum campaign has been revealed in shocking messages left on the mobile phone of a prominent No campaigner.

Senator Jacinta Nampijinpa Price played back some of the messages left on her mobile phone after her number was leaked on X, formerly known as Twitter.

In one message, a man calls her an Uncle Tom and a ‘Coconut’, a racist trope meaning a person is allegedly brown on the outside but white on the inside.
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“Hate your own people. You know, what a disgrace. Absolutely disgraceful, disgusting human being you are. Uncle Tom, coconut,” the man says.

In other messages, a man tells her to “f–k off” while another man says: “You’re a f–king b–ch, woman”.

Senator Price said the messages weren’t the “worst” she had received.

“It’s just remarkable how human beings feel they have the right to be aggressive and abusive and disgusting and horrible,” she said.

She called out the use of the term ‘coconut’ and said she and other No supporters, including Nyunggai Warren Mundine AO, had been targeted by the abusive racial term.

“We can’t just be seen as human beings in our own right, people like to look at us in terms of colour, and there’s no place for it,” she said.

Senator Price said two people had leaked her number online and she had reported them to the police.

When asked if the messages had rattled her, she said she had been subjected to abuse over many years.

“I’ve had so many people be abusive and horrible towards me over the years,” she said.

“And it doesn’t surprise me, I know what human beings are capable of.

“I just think, you know, wake up to yourselves. I’ve been campaigning for the betterment of the lives of our most vulnerable who are silenced because of violent perpetrators and I won’t put up with perpetrators sending me messages like that.”

She also said she wouldn’t be bullied by the toxic behaviour.

“I am not going to be bullied,” she said.

“I am here because there are people who are worse off than I am. I need to be their vessel, their voice, because if I don’t, well who else is going to?”

“Reflect upon your behaviour, yourselves, and sort out your own backyard.”

Senator Price has changed her number.

There are less than three weeks left until the October 14 referendum for a Voice to Parliament, which if successful would formally recognise First Nations people and embed a permanent Indigenous-led advisory body into the Constitution.

Roger
Roger
September 25, 2023 10:17 am

Notable that while the Voice is tanking, Dutton’s ratings continue to plummet…

It might be Liberal policy (that’s another problem), but by proposing a referendum on constitutional recognition in the midst of the current campaign and offering to work “constructively” with Albanese to legislate an indigenous voice should the referendum fail, Dutton has foolishly made this about his own leadership as much as it is about Albanese’s.

Makka
Makka
September 25, 2023 10:18 am

Recently, the 1983 painting here , done by Bob in around 28 minutes , was given a price tag of nearly $10 million. His shows went for 11 years on PBS.

Like watching a magician at work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oh5p5f5_-7A&ab_channel=BobRoss

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 25, 2023 10:25 am

Boambee John

Sep 25, 2023 9:23 AM

m0nty
Sep 25, 2023 9:08 AM
Catturd ™
@catturd2

One of the biggest idiots on planet earth.

He picked a fight with Elon and got shadowbanned, so yep, he’s pretty dumb.

Yellen is a woman, can’t you tell the difference?

No.
No he can’t.

Roger
Roger
September 25, 2023 10:27 am

Rishi Sunak reportedly planning to slash or even abolish inheritance taxes.

JC
JC
September 25, 2023 10:31 am

Dr F

I don’t think the leadership poll matters much. Morrison was constantly outpolling the Albanian and the Liars still won.

I think it was in the final turn that the Albanian caught up on the polls.

Also, the Liars were consistently in front when Morrison was ahead.

Nelson_Kidd-Players
September 25, 2023 10:33 am

Tom
Sep 25, 2023 4:00 AM
Johannes Leak.

Tom
Sep 25, 2023 4:01 AM
Mark Knight.

Points decision to Knight for me; but I guess that, since he works for the state daily rather than the national one, he can go harder on the elephant.

Obviously a different elephant metaphor to the one behind the CL avatar. 🙂

Nelson_Kidd-Players
September 25, 2023 10:34 am

Tom
Sep 25, 2023 4:11 AM
Chip Bok.

An object lesson in the fungibility of money.

Thanks, Tom!

Roger
Roger
September 25, 2023 10:38 am

This is absurd:

British Telecom is cutting 10 000+ rural & regional jobs (55 000 by the end of the decade) and hiring more people in major cities as a means of meeting its diversity in employment targets.

Service to customers takes second place to appeasing the gods of DEI, apparently.

BT’s new chief executive, Allison Kirkby, has £220,000 in bonus payments tied to meeting diversity and inclusion targets.

On a brighter note, the company’s share price is rapidly heading south.

Roger
Roger
September 25, 2023 10:39 am

On a brighter note, the company’s share price is rapidly heading south.

Like the jobs – heh.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 25, 2023 10:41 am

Haha, Microsoft wants to build a nuclear power plant.

We’re looking for a Principal Program Manager, Nuclear Technology, who will be responsible for maturing and implementing a global Small Modular Reactor (SMR) and microreactor energy strategy.

This senior position is tasked with leading the technical assessment for the integration of SMR and microreactors to power the datacenters that the Microsoft Cloud and AI reside on.

Suck on that Bowen.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 25, 2023 10:43 am

I hope the Libs brainstrust (if there is such a thing) is preparing to make the most of the pending failure of the Voice.

They should straight after, while Labor is still reeling from their own uppercut, be pouncing on them for all the energy and money they devoted trying on a cause that no one wanted while being utterly indifferent to the bread and butter issues that do count to the voters.

Labor will have taken months off from trying to help hoi polloi for their own indulgence. Was it because they had no ideas how to deliver on key policies? Or they just didn’t think them important?

They really ought to make a point of going on the attack instead of sitting smugly back while Labor dusts itself off, spins some excuses, then goes on the attack against the Libs.

Energy is going to become…ahem…a hot topic in the summer months and Labor has got nothing.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 25, 2023 10:50 am

I don’t think the leadership poll matters much. Morrison was constantly outpolling the Albanian and the Liars still won.

I agree – and to be honest I don’t really know what the ‘preferred PM’ tag means. It’s a lightweight New Idea concept, really.

Sometimes Albanese is my preferred PM; particularly when he’s running the ALP off the road. And I’m not sure what Dutton’s agenda for government is – so I’ve no real basis to form a view about his potential PM-qualities.

Up above I was pointing out that the poll numbers tell a different story to monty’s preferred narrative – which seems to be that Albanese remains a tower of strength, while a signature policy collapses around him.

bespoke
bespoke
September 25, 2023 10:50 am
Rosie
Rosie
September 25, 2023 10:52 am

I couldn’t care less about the political fallout for Elbow if the voice fails.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 25, 2023 10:52 am

Lieborals haven’t really got anywhere to go on energy because the policy difference is … about 5 years. There hasn’t been a genuine policy choice since Abbot got sh1tcanned.

Rosie
Rosie
September 25, 2023 10:53 am

How about directing your basilisk gaze towards the people running the agencies, councils and other representative bodies

To be fair, Lidia does have her basilisk gaze directed at Aboriginal Corporations.

Vicki
Vicki
September 25, 2023 10:53 am

Roger – I have to agree that while Dutton wants to work”constructively” with Labor he is doomed. Why doesn’t he have the intelligence to see this doesn’t work? I think he is obsessed with the nebulous “middle ground”.

Zatara
Zatara
September 25, 2023 10:54 am

In one message, a man calls her an Uncle Tom

Thus revealing their ignorance.

While the uneducated left consider “Uncle Tom” to be a slur implying a black subservient to whites, the Uncle Tom of Harriet Beecher Stowe’s ‘Uncle Tom’s Cabin’ upon whom they mistakenly base that slur actually let himself be whipped to death rather than reveal where two escaped black slave women were hiding.

Another meme born in racist ignorance and prolonged by the left.

Cassie of Sydney
September 25, 2023 10:54 am

Further to “preferred PM”, people have short memories, Tony Abbott, even in the immediate lead up to September 2013, was never “preferred PM”. Even when Gillard was tanking politically, she remained preferred PM over Abbott.

I think Labor party strategists and hard heads will be very worried if the Voice goes down, because like after any good party, or any big wave, or any big tsunami, it’s the wash up, it’s the aftermath that counts. And this will be a big problem for Labor, because people are hurting economically, people are becoming angrier, they can see right through this Sleazy vanity project, and this referendum has divided the country. There were rumours earlier this year that Sleazy and other Labor hot heads were convinced that they were going to win more seats at the next federal election from the Liberals, nabbing such seats as Andrew Hastie’s in WA, and other Liberal marginal or semi marginal seats. This hubris was despite the warnings of Labor strategists who advised Sleazy and others that the high water mark had already been reached. I think Sleazy thought the referendum would be easy-peasy, because since winning in May of last year, he’s brimmed with hubris. Clearly, he either isn’t being advised well or he has a tin ear.

I don’t think Dutton is popular, but nor is Sleazy.

As for what will happen on 14 October, I dunno. I lean towards NO getting over the line, but I don’t trust polls.

Vicki
Vicki
September 25, 2023 10:56 am

We have driven the ute to town to hear Jacinta & pick up some straw for the chook pen & mower parts. Wonder who and how many will turn up in this old coal mining town.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 25, 2023 10:58 am

British Telecom is cutting 10 000+ rural & regional jobs (55 000 by the end of the decade) and hiring more people in major cities as a means of meeting its diversity in employment targets.

Inevitable.
Hard to find minorities willing to live and work in the UK badlands.

If they won’t go, the only solution to the £200k bonus issue is to retreat to more inclusive surroundings.

Vicki
Vicki
September 25, 2023 11:00 am

Cassie I felt in my bones that the Libs would be smashed at the last Fed election. Similarly I feel that this will be a one term Labor government. They have gone hard and fast at their usual idiotic fantasies, & the populace will once more say “you are kidding…”

duncanm
duncanm
September 25, 2023 11:01 am

Has Kamahl performed the ultimate troll?

Wonderful stuff. Always did have a lot of respect for the guy.

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
September 25, 2023 11:03 am

I was in NE Victoria yesterday (crops are looking good). I had the misfortune of my radio getting stuck on their ABC. Bang! Climate crisis were the first two words i heard.

If all public broadcasters fell in the forest, would anyone hear climate change?

Crossie
Crossie
September 25, 2023 11:05 am

Boambee John
Sep 25, 2023 9:20 AM
“What do we get at the end of the day … we get crumbs on the table. And that is not good enough.”

Please, Hidia, might I have some of those $39 billion crumbs? A billion or so would be fine.

I would accept even a smaller crumb like a $million or so.

Bruce
Bruce
September 25, 2023 11:05 am

From the land of fruits and nuts, an idea bound to wash up on our shores soon.

https://legalinsurrection.com/2023/09/california-oks-plan-to-allow-insurance-companies-to-use-climate-crisis-to-inflate-rates/

Spillage, anyone?

The corporate state in all its ugliness

Roger
Roger
September 25, 2023 11:06 am

Roger – I have to agree that while Dutton wants to work”constructively” with Labor he is doomed. Why doesn’t he have the intelligence to see this doesn’t work? I think he is obsessed with the nebulous “middle ground”.

He’s certainly made it clear what he thinks of conservatives.

Conventional political wisdom was once that, given compulsory preferential voting, Australian elections were won by appealing to the swinging middle rather than the committed (the “rusted ons” of Labor, later becoming “the people whose vote didn’t matter” in Liberal parlance). Hence the development of the uniparty of modern times and, by way of reaction, the rise of small parties & independents, which suggests that the paradigm is shifting and rather rapidly as the politically committed abandon their loyalties (both major parties languished in the low to mid-30s in terms of primary vote at the last election and Shorten arguably lost in 2019 because he neglected the working class vote in regional Queensland).

Another problem with this trend for the Libs in particular is that they rely on “the people whose vote doesn’t matter” to hand out HTV cards.

Indolent
Indolent
September 25, 2023 11:07 am
Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 25, 2023 11:08 am

As for what will happen on 14 October, I dunno. I lean towards NO getting over the line, but I don’t trust polls.

As you shouldn’t.
Single polls are risky, the trend however is telling us that, depending on how the ‘don’t knows’ break (are they Shy Torries, or lo-info) – the result will either be a solid No, or a close-run Yes or No.

In either of these cases, the end result is going to be politically messy for Australian government.

Roger
Roger
September 25, 2023 11:10 am

From the land of fruits and nuts, an idea bound to wash up on our shores soon.

Already here, as you will discover with your next home and contents bill.

Globally, reinsurers have been hiking rates for some time due to weather events allegedly caused by climate change.

Domestic insurers have been absorbing those hikes but crunch time is now upon us.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 25, 2023 11:12 am

House of Commons speaker apologizes for honoring 98-year-old Ukrainian Nazi, claims idea was entirely his

I was wondering if Trudy was wearing his costume to the ceremony.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 25, 2023 11:14 am

The Lieborals main problem is can’t rely on a uniform preference flow from anywhere. They have no choice but to get their primary vote up. No SloMo and Albo might just do it. Long way to go yet.

Makka
Makka
September 25, 2023 11:14 am

He’s certainly made it clear what he thinks of conservatives.

He’s made a pact with the dripping wets to keep his job. Now delivering on it.

Jacinta has rightfully garnered a lot of positive attention in conservative land. A sensible person saying only sensible things. That every sensible person knows. I don’t know what her position is but I’d love to hear her speak out aggressively against the climate hoax and the damage of wokeism. That might be a catalyst to grow a backbone in the LNP.

Roger
Roger
September 25, 2023 11:20 am

Inevitable.
Hard to find minorities willing to live and work in the UK badlands.

Just as inevitable as a British government mandating (by one means or another; sticks and carrots) that corporations devolve jobs from cities to regional areas before the end of the decade as a way of dealing with the inevitable political fallout in their constituencies?

bespoke
bespoke
September 25, 2023 11:21 am

The latest ad promoting the yes vote is typically misleading. Inferring it will allow the indigenous boy to learn his native language was only one of spurious claims. In contrast the ‘no’ ads have a simple and consistent message.

shatterzzz
September 25, 2023 11:23 am

As for what will happen on 14 October, I dunno. I lean towards NO getting over the line, but I don’t trust polls.

The reality of what has/does happen in th eUSA regarding politics and voting is starting to affect everyone .. pre BAT FLU the confidence in the NO vote would be at 100% .. but post BAT FLU most folk are hedging their opinions because we just don’t trust the “free” voting system anymore ..!

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 25, 2023 11:24 am

Mystery of Ned Kelly’s missing skull finally revealed by Victorian archaeologist Jeremy Smith

The mystery of Ned Kelly’s missing skull has finally been solved.

In a twist befitting a saga that started with an exhumation and continued with a stolen skull and then a lost grave, the archaeologist who eventually found Kelly’s missing remains has revealed that the famous outlaw’s skull was never nicked at all.

“It was actually never stolen,” said Heritage Victoria senior archaeologist Jeremy Smith. “Or was missing.”

The revelation is among many in a new book, Australia’s Most Infamous Jail: Inside the walls of Pentridge Prison.

Mr Smith said new forensic testing revealed Kelly’s skull had been buried in a toolbox with the rest of his remains and not put on display at the Old Melbourne Gaol and subsequently stolen in 1978 as previously thought.

“There were parts of his skull in his burial box,” Mr Smith said.

“People still seem to think about the mystery of the missing Kelly skull, but it’s no mystery at all. We have significant parts of the Kelly skull that have been confirmed with DNA testing.”

In a remarkable story that reveals how a team of archaeologists, historians, scientists, politicians and a backhoe driver dug deep to solve the riddle of what happened to Australia’s most famous outlaw, the book details the full account of how Kelly’s remains were lost after being relocated from the Old Melbourne Gaol to Pentridge Prison in 1929 – then found in 2009 after a seven-year search.

“It really was an Indiana Jones-like project,” Mr Smith said. “Missing skulls and burial grounds, the mystery of Ned Kelly. It was one of those projects that got weirder and weirder.

“I work in a government department so I was always going to my boss with strange requests … It was amazing how it all came together.”

Thought to be buried in a marked plot at Pentridge prison, Edward E. Kelly’s remains were officially declared lost in 2002 when a team of archaeologists tried to exhume his grave.

“Edward Kelly was clearly marked on the document beneath one of the mass graves,” Smith said. “It looked as though the grave he was in included the first of the graves dug up and moved to Pentridge in 1929. But nothing was where it was supposed to be,” he said.

“The area referred to as ‘The Pentridge cemetery’ was supposed to contain the remains of all the people who were judicially executed in Pentridge, but it soon became clear that at Pentridge, X certainly didn’t mark the spot.”

In a seven-year search of the site, Mr Smith and his team located four mass graves containing the remains of 30 executed inmates – but no sign of Kelly.

“I thought it was highly likely trophy collectors had pillaged what was left of his remains in 1929,” he said.

The hunt for Kelly’s remains was reignited when a stolen skull, believed to be the outlaw’s, was returned. “Ultimately it was proved that the skull did not belong to Kelly,” Mr Smith said.

Kelly’s remains were eventually discovered in 2009 after a backhoe operator unearthed a mass grave during redevelopment of the former prison site.

“Kelly ended up being the most complete skeleton we found,” Mr Smith said. “His skeleton was 90 per cent complete.”

And in a new revelation, that box included his skull. “Those fragments have cut marks that show it was sectioned as part of an autopsy following his execution,” Mr Smith said.

“Kelly’s skull ended up in multiple parts and what was left was put in the box … He had been moved three times when we started our project, the third time being during works at Pentridge, so to find him largely intact is a minor miracle.”

Oz

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
September 25, 2023 11:27 am

calli,

another suggestion for Venice – Coffe or Brunch – as Illy Cafe reasonable price

https://www.illy.com/it-it/negozi-bar-illy/illy-caffe-venezia

Just before San Marco Giardinetti Wharf after we got off Ferry at San Marco (Vallaresso) Ferry Wharf and walked up over little bridge

Right next to Ferry Wharf and great views over activity in Harbour

Scroll down Photos on Left

The new illy Caffè opens in the Royal Gardens of Venice

Venice, December 17th 2019 – the new illy Caffè opens today in Venice, inside the historic Giardini Reali near San Marco. The Royal Gardens were commissioned by Napoleon Bonaparte in the early nineteenth century, and are now once again open to the city after a major restoration project.

The illy Caffè is located inside the historical Coffee Pavilion, a neoclassical construction designed by the architect Lorenzo Santi between 1816 and 1817 and used for the Cafehaus in the park during the Habsburg period.

The project to restore this remarkable historical location has taken several years, and has been promoted and undertaken by the Venice Gardens Foundation in collaboration with Assicurazioni Generali. illycaffè is delighted to participate in the project, and returning the pavilion to its original function is an ideal role for the company.

The redevelopment of the circular space inside the greenhouse was entrusted to the Locatelli Partners studio, who have reinterpreted the typical stylistic features of historic greenhouses, emphasizing the elegance of the luminous space, flooded with light from the tall windows all around, and the openings onto the garden. The new illy Caffè covers an area of 250 square meters. Guests are welcomed in the centre at a large circular counter with brass details, and these materials, together with the unmistakable illy red, are also carried over into the tables and the spectacular 4-circle chandelier constructed with blown glass rings, a celebration of the Venetian tradition of glass-making.

Open every day from 8:00 am to 8:00 pm, the illy Caffè offers a rich and varied range of products, ideal for any time of the day. Start the day with the aroma of the unique illy blend and delicious confectionery, enjoy a fresh and original lunch break, or relax with a selection of aperitifs and cocktails in the evening. Inside the store there is also an area for the sale of products and accessories from the world of illy: from the illy Arabica Selection range, to Iperespresso machines and the iconic illy Art Collection cups.

The new illy Caffè is sure to become a favourite meeting point for everyone who loves taste and beauty, in one of the most beloved historical sites in Venice, just a few steps from Piazza San Marco.

shatterzzz
September 25, 2023 11:31 am

I have to agree that while Dutton wants to work”constructively” with Labor he is doomed. Why doesn’t he have the intelligence to see this doesn’t work?

The Liberals are now just Labor Lite .. the only difference being the Libs haven’t got the ballz to “come out” …..

Roger
Roger
September 25, 2023 11:34 am

House of Commons speaker apologizes for honoring 98-year-old Ukrainian Nazi, claims idea was entirely his

This old geezer is being demonised as a Nazi war criminal; has any evidence been presented or tested in a court of law?

That being said, the lack of historical awareness (or is it historical revisionism in the servic eof ideology?) on the left is typical. From 1942 onwards the Soviet flag used, on occasion, to be raised on the public buildings of allied countries.

calli
calli
September 25, 2023 11:36 am

Thanks Old Ozzie. I won’t forget.

One of the problems we had after extending the trip a week was re-booking flights. As we only ever travel on FFPs, not an easy task. Miraculously, two BC Air France tickets appeared, so the Beloved snaffled them up.

Even more miraculous, when he cancelled the existing tickets, the points were reimbursed to the account within 48 hours. Something at Qantas has changed – he usually had to wait a month and sometimes make a phone call. I can’t imagine what the change was. 😀

shatterzzz
September 25, 2023 11:36 am

Similarly I feel that this will be a one term Labor government.

Should be but given Dudzy’s performance(s) we could be looking at an even the peanut is a better bet that Dudzy .. the anyone but peanut syndrome that propelled Bradbury in reverse ……..!

Delta A
Delta A
September 25, 2023 11:38 am

And I’m not sure what Dutton’s agenda for government is

He has pushed the nuclear energy option into public view, generating lively discussion on all sides of politics. Who would have thought that possible a year ago?

The other significant turnaround this year is Jacinta’s claim that we don’t need a Voice, we need accountability (for all the billions spent on indigenous affairs). Kudos to her for having the courage to raise this contentious issue.

Crossie
Crossie
September 25, 2023 11:40 am

Dutton continues to fail to impress the electorate. In my opinion it also tells us a lot about what people crave: the truth. No equivocation, no careful use of words. This is why Jacinta Price is having such an effect on people.

Apart from his political missteps Dutton just doesn’t engage visually. What people look like does matter in politics otherwise Albo wouldn’t have lost all that weight and got dental work. Let’s face it, Dutton is more expressionless than Mr Potato Head who at least can move his eyebrows and this puts off a lot of people who want to see emotions that mirror their own. Dutton is not bright enough in the way of rhetoric or policy to override that disadvantage. Since there is nobody better on the Libs’ side I don’t know how things will shake out.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 25, 2023 11:44 am

This old geezer is being demonised as a Nazi war criminal; has any evidence been presented or tested in a court of law?

Didn’t he serve with the Waffen S.S?

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 25, 2023 11:44 am

Inevitable.
Hard to find minorities willing to live and work in the UK badlands.

Just as inevitable as a British government mandating (by one means or another; sticks and carrots) that corporations devolve jobs from cities to regional areas…

Unfortunately, yes.
Once government starts into social engineering, or ‘managing’ markets, or backing ‘winners’ there is an inevitable cascade of contradictions and unintended consequences – which ripple out into utter absurdity.

It is an Iron Law.

At the moment it’s ever-present everywhere.

Makka
Makka
September 25, 2023 11:46 am

This old geezer is being demonised as a Nazi war criminal; has any evidence been presented or tested in a court of law?

Not really. He was being hailed as a hero of Ukraine due to his service in the 14th Waffen Grenadier Division of the SS (1st Galician).

He was volunteered to serve in a pretty unsavory outfit. The Speaker and Canadian Parliament are braindead lemmings.

Wiki:

“Although the Waffen-SS as a whole was declared to be a criminal organization at the Nuremberg Trials, the Galician Division has not specifically been found guilty of any war crimes by any war tribunal or commission. However, numerous accusations of impropriety have been leveled at the division, and at particular members of the division, from a variety of sources. ”

But, Himmler certainly thought they were the real deal;

In a speech to the soldiers of the 1st Galician division, Heinrich Himmler stated:

“Your homeland has become so much more beautiful since you have lost – on our initiative, I must say – those residents who were so often a dirty blemish on Galicia’s good name, namely the J*ws … I know that if I ordered you to liquidate the Poles … I would be giving you permission to do what you are eager to do anyway.[43]”

“In the winter and spring of 1944, the SS-Galizien participated in the destruction of several Polish villages, including the village of Huta Pieniacka. About five hundred civilians were murdered.[41] “

Roger
Roger
September 25, 2023 11:48 am

He has pushed the nuclear energy option into public view, generating lively discussion on all sides of politics.

After checking the polls to confirm that it’s had majority public support for some time now. As with the Voice, as leader of the opposition Dutton has consistently followed public sentiment rather than lead it.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 25, 2023 11:48 am

even the peanut is a better bet that Dudzy ..

I used to say no one was unelectable. Until Peanut Head.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 25, 2023 11:49 am

Should be but given Dudzy’s performance(s) we could be looking at an even the peanut is a better bet that Dudzy .. the anyone but peanut syndrome that propelled Bradbury in reverse ……..!

It’s a bit early in the day, but I think I might have to get stuck into the second flagon of McWilliams Sweet Sherry to manage that thought.

Christine
Christine
September 25, 2023 11:49 am

Agree completely with Crossie’s comment on Peter Dutton.

Unfortunately for Dutton, that lack of expression is a great disadvantage – one he cannot override.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 25, 2023 11:51 am

Even I got discriminated in London when I came down for a weekend from Manchester.

lotocoti
lotocoti
September 25, 2023 11:53 am

Surprised the MSM haven’t labelled it a bizarre rant.

Cassie of Sydney
September 25, 2023 11:57 am

Apart from his political missteps Dutton just doesn’t engage visually.”

I’m sorry, but this is both shallow and ridiculous, people seem to have forgotten that neither Howard nor Rudd nor Abbott nor Morrison nor Albanese “engaged visually”.

“Visual” is just as shallow and nonsensical as “preferred PM”.

Look, I don’t think Dutton is doing a bad job. I don’t care about “preferred PM”. Dutton IS chipping away, politics is about the ‘slow’ and the ‘tedious’ but he’s up to the job and he’s doing the job.

Peter Dutton has held a marginal seat called Dickson in QLD for twenty-two years now (a marginal seat he won from Gareth Evans’ squeeze). Labor and the left have tried to throw everything to dislodge him over those same twenty-two years, and they’ve failed every single time. Labor was convinced they were going to get rid of him in 2016, in 2019 and in 2022. They failed and they continue to fail because Peter Dutton, whilst not very “visual”, is actually a very astute and sagacious politician. Dutton can tap into middle Australia far more than Sleazy, who resides and socialises in his inner-city, very Green, vegan electorate.

Cassie of Sydney
September 25, 2023 11:58 am

All Albanese does is “snarl”. Just remember, oppositions don’t win elections, governments lose them.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 25, 2023 11:59 am

Has Kamahl performed the ultimate troll?

Just quietly, I suspect that most people under 60 haven’t heard of him before.

In any event, he’s provided a useful lesson to politicians: Beware of the Zinger.

Roger
Roger
September 25, 2023 12:01 pm

I’m aware of the background Makka; but it’s not evidence of criminal wrongdoing in this fellow’s case. There’s a distinct whiff of hypocrisy about it, since many Nazis were given visas by Western countries after the war.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 25, 2023 12:02 pm

…neither Howard nor Rudd nor Abbott nor Morrison nor Albanese “engaged visually”.

Another large tumbler of cooking sherry…

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 25, 2023 12:06 pm

Even I got discriminated in London when I came down for a weekend from Manchester.

Nothing personal, or trouser-related.
Anything north of Watford Gap or west of the Severn gets discriminated against.

It’s in the fine print of the Magna Carta.

Makka
Makka
September 25, 2023 12:10 pm

but it’s not evidence of criminal wrongdoing in this fellow’s case.

Is he being accused of criminal wrongdoing? Or, is being cheered as a died in the wool Nazi, who volunteered for service in the SS the real issue?

I would have thought that it’s the latter. Still , it’s NOT the type of person to be applauded in Parliament. But this is wokeism on steroids when even committed documented real Nazis are ok if they support Ukraine.

There’s a distinct whiff of hypocrisy about it,

The hypocrisy has been reeking since ’45.

Cassie of Sydney
September 25, 2023 12:11 pm

Andrew Peacock was much more ‘visually engaging’ than either Bob Hawke or John Howard.

Roger
Roger
September 25, 2023 12:11 pm

While Jews were often discriminated against, I should add.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 25, 2023 12:15 pm

Preferred PM is something meaningless for the Rustadons to cling to when things turn to shit.
Like your team finishing ninth in the regular season but pointing to the fact that you won the pre-season warm-up competition.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 25, 2023 12:16 pm

After checking the polls to confirm that it’s had majority public support for some time now. As with the Voice, as leader of the opposition Dutton has consistently followed public sentiment rather than lead it.

Yes.
The Dutton nuke proposal is the Coalition equivalent of the Voice Referendum. Check the polling (Do you think your electricity bill is: a) too high; b) too low: or c) about right?), float something that ties Those Opposite into knots, thrash the politics around in the Canbra Bubble Bath and hope something comes out in the froth.

Introducing nuclear power to Australia will require bipartisan support and a boatload of explaining by people other than Top Men. Dropping a thought on the floor of Parliament, with details to come, is not the way a serious debate is raised.

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