Open Thread – Mon 2 Oct 2023


Adam’s House, Edward Hopper, 1928

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Helen
Helen
October 2, 2023 12:16 am

First

Salvatore, Iron Publican
October 2, 2023 12:16 am

first after Helen.

Alamak!
October 2, 2023 12:17 am

1st runner up!

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
October 2, 2023 1:00 am

Froth! Good morning, nocturnes and insomniacs.
“The first task of a university education is to teach a young man to despise his father.”
Any Cats or Kits know the exact words, the author of that quote? That’s your homewrk for the day…
Vicki, re snakes- I was a bit dopey, what I was getting at was, though those pseudonaja-brown snakes have great vibration sensing and olfactory perception, their vision is pounce predator, very short and sharp. They can only scan the distant world around them as fuzzy objects in their vision, so don’t think of them as spying prey, or going for a dog, or rearing their heads to have a look- they’re moving on pheromone trails, or flicking their tongues sniffing for such.
It’s why cobras are a doozy for “snake charmers”… they’re basically myopic.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
October 2, 2023 1:06 am

Mutt for Monday…
Good teeth, great pigment, great eye contact. Someone, pick her up and send her to me…

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
October 2, 2023 1:56 am

Fully sick at six.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
October 2, 2023 2:04 am
pete of perth
pete of perth
October 2, 2023 3:40 am

Raining in Perth.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
October 2, 2023 3:53 am

Still nice and warm in Sydney.

Tom
Tom
October 2, 2023 4:01 am
Tom
Tom
October 2, 2023 4:02 am
Tom
Tom
October 2, 2023 4:03 am
Tom
Tom
October 2, 2023 4:04 am
Tom
Tom
October 2, 2023 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
October 2, 2023 4:07 am
Tom
Tom
October 2, 2023 4:07 am
Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
October 2, 2023 4:22 am

Thanks Tom.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
October 2, 2023 4:26 am

Labour Day in NSW today.

FFS. Tennis Elbow gets another day off. I wonder where he will fly to today.

Top Ender
Top Ender
October 2, 2023 4:46 am

Thanks Tom – much appreciated.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 2, 2023 6:09 am

Test.

Petros
Petros
October 2, 2023 6:32 am

Michael Smith has a quote from Paul Keating regarding the voice. He is against it apparently. When I google that there is no mention of Keating’s opposition to the voice. Anyone know any more?

Gabor
Gabor
October 2, 2023 6:44 am

Petros
Oct 2, 2023 6:32 AM

Michael Smith has a quote from Paul Keating regarding the voice. He is against it apparently. When I google that there is no mention of Keating’s opposition to the voice. Anyone know any more?

Closest I came is this

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 2, 2023 6:48 am

Correction re Oetzi, the Iceman from re-reading my book on him, he was probably around 1.6 metres tall, but measured only 1.54 metres due to mummification after his death. Thus not very tall. See here for Museum details and reconstruction pics.

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 2, 2023 6:58 am

Andrew Bolt:

I protest. This story about Melbourne’s Grand Final parade last Friday used a word that’s fake news: “Three Extinction Rebellion protesters leapt the barriers before sitting down in the path of a ute carrying the premiership cup.”

“Protesters” is wrong. That’s not the right word for the three Extinction Rebellion extremists who stopped the parade, even trying to glue themselves to the road.

Protesters are actually people announcing they are against something, hoping to get others to join their fight.

But these three couldn’t have thought for a second that stopping fans seeing their football heroes would win their cause a single friend.

Indeed, that same newspaper report said police “managed to drag the protesters away to loud cheers from the thousands of Collingwood and Brisbane supporters”.

No, these people are really “bullies”.

Here’s the difference. A protester tells you what they think; a bully tries to force you to give in.

A protester stands next to the road with a sign; a bully stands in the road to stop you from driving by.

What’s more, it’s increasingly clear that some causes are just licenses to people to unleash their inner bully.

Global warming is one. This year climate activists felt entitled to stop a US Open tennis semi-final in New York, a world snooker championship in Sheffield, the second Ashes test in London, and a tennis match at Wimbledon.

In contrast, people against their climate extremism haven’t stopped a single game or race. Nor have they attacked paintings, blocked roads or invaded the homes of gas executives, as have climate extremists.

See, they don’t have that same licence to bully.

Race politics is another such licence. Race bullies have set fire to the old Parliament House, trashed a federal politician’s office and screamed insults at people going to hear anti-Voice speaker

Some of our most famous philosophers have warned of bullies like this. CS Lewis claimed they were the worst: “Those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.”

Bertrand Russell had their number: “Much that passes as idealism is disguised hatred or disguised love of power.”

Look now at many Voice activists, claiming to be against racism while really fighting to give their preferred race more power.

They’re just bullies, and we must be clear and say so, because we are never safer when bullies win.

Gabor
Gabor
October 2, 2023 7:01 am

Black Ball
Oct 2, 2023 6:58 AM

Andrew Bolt:

I like his written stuff, can’t stand him on the Teve. or previous on the radio.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 2, 2023 7:15 am

Good morning from Tartaria.

Early signs of the build up. Walked outside and it was warmer than inside, and a bit sticky as well.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 2, 2023 7:19 am

Yesterday we drove from Val Martino into the Val Gardena in Italy’s Tyrol Dolomite mountains. Another hair-raising drive, steep up and in long swooping curving ribbons of descent down. Better in some ways than the trip up and down into the Fiemme valley into Cavalese, the first one we did, where the descent consisted of long steep drops ending in a hairpin bends over a precipice. My right foot has became a little sore from pressing on a non-existent brake on the passenger side of the car for the many kms of roads in the three mountain passes we’ve traversed in this Alpine treat. Like your husband Vicki, as you said, Hairy is a good driver who enjoys this sort of thing. Me, less so. My role is to be quiet in a silent blue funk and enjoy the view. Which was, as I said here recently, always stupendous. Two motorbikes nearly took us out on one blind bend as they were racing stupidly in the mid-road. We also saw an Alfa-Romeo contraption like something from Mad Max, three wheels of roaring bike all chrome and steel with leather laid back seats for rider and passenger. As wide as those two motorbikes and I hope we never meet one of those on a blind corner too.

Today in the ski town of Ortesei, where 90% of the population speak the long-isolated ancient language of Ladins (a mix of old Celtic and Latin), I braved a gondola trip with Hairy up to their highest peak at over 2000 metres, straight up. On the top though on the other side are some gentle rolling pastures on a plateau which presents what is considered one of the best panoramic views in the world. World heritage listed, the Dolomites rise beyond these pastures creating a chocolate-box scenic vista. We had mushroom and truffle soup followed by Ladin dumplings in the restaurant up top there for our lunch.

We had hamburgers for dinner because that was the only place open (a cafe) when we trundled down from our hotel at 8.30 tonight for a meal. It’s Sunday and they don’t work on Sundays in this town. Church bells woke me at six, seven and eight.

Heading for Salzburg tomorrow. Hope to escape from the somewhat cloying Tyrolean kitsch with its impulse to break us out into Alpine yodelling, and hear some Mozart instead.
Hence, avoiding anything to do with The Sound of Music in Salzburg.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 2, 2023 7:47 am

Good morning from Tartaria.

Et in Tartaria ego.

Nelson_Kidd-Players
Nelson_Kidd-Players
October 2, 2023 7:50 am

Sounds like the hills were alive with the sound of engines in Italia, at least, Lizzie!

When we did a Euro bus tour before kids our guide was Tyrolean. I think he skipped the group dinner to have a meal with the family that night.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 2, 2023 7:51 am

It’s been blue skies and 26 degrees here daily in the Dolomites, but the evenings and early mornings are becoming noticably cooler. Need a jacket at night up here in the mountains, daytime the sun is hot and a t-shirt is all you require, even at 2000 metres. No wind at all.

When I get around to it I am thinking of preparing some Lizzie’s tips for travellers. Useful learnings.

Examples:

If you are female in the front passenger seat and need to pee urgently and you are a long way from a toilet, you can stop in a lay-by with passenger side to the verge, open both passenger side doors to form a little cubicle, then drop your knickers crouch-perched on the car sill and do a wee. You will not be seen and if you are so what, they don’t know you, and all they’ll see is the puddle.

A pak of tissues is always useful in pocket or purse.

If you are in benighted accommodation in the northern hemisphere without a fridge in your room and want to keep some milk, cheese, cold meats or beer cold, then stick these things on the balcony. Works well in winter, and shouder seasons.

Always carry some plastic cups and spoons, one pointed steel knife, some nail scissors, tweezers, muesli bars, tea bags, chocolate bars and two pegs for curtains that don’t quite join at night. And an airline eye mask as a sleep aid.

Recall too that necessity is the mother of invention. Towels can make ideal extra blankets or folded as a second pillow and can be worn as a poncho on the balcony.

Also, never travel in a lift or car without your mobile phone and the local number for emergency services. It’s 112 in Italy, 999 in Britain and 000 in Australia, for example.

Savlon and band-aids are a basic first aid kit. Add Panadol and Codral. Suck on occasional Strepsils when in flight.

Other travelling Cats may also have suggestions.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 2, 2023 7:51 am

Et in Tartaria ego.

‘Well, what was I supposed to think?’

Aaaand a big good morning to millions of Australians in Teh DeaTh Camps.

The internet is forever. Lurkers are forever. Comedy is forever.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 2, 2023 7:53 am

If you are female in the front passenger seat and need to pee urgently and you are a long way from a toilet, you can stop in a lay-by with passenger side to the verge, open both passenger side doors to form a little cubicle, then drop your knickers crouch-perched on the car sill and do a wee. You will not be seen and if you are so what, they don’t know you, and all they’ll see is the puddle.

Are you on a footy trip?

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
October 2, 2023 7:53 am

This dog breed looks a delight – very expensive though – life span 15-18 years

Dot
Dot
October 2, 2023 7:54 am

Via veritas via Tartaria

Dot
Dot
October 2, 2023 7:56 am

Mobile execution flatbed trucks. Justice for deATH cAmPs.

calli
calli
October 2, 2023 7:56 am

Don’t try shopping in Vienna (or most of Austria and Germany) on Sunday. All shut except for cafés and restaurants, galleries and museums.

Apparently they like to spend time with their families on Sunday.

In the Land of Commerce, the USA, some business chains are the same. Hobby Lobby is an example – Christian owners who want their staff to have a day of rest regardless of faith and loss of business income.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 2, 2023 7:57 am

Oh, and a good tip too is to put one of those bottle opener gadgets that sommeliers have into the side pocket of each of your big suitcases. Then even if you leave one of them in a hotel room you always have another handy. European and South American wines often still have corks not screw tops and not all hotels provide these in your room.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
October 2, 2023 7:59 am

?izzie, we travel with whatever fits in carry-on baggage. No lost luggage, had enough of that. Laundromats are your friend.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
October 2, 2023 7:59 am

Lizzie

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
October 2, 2023 7:59 am

Hi Lizzie thanks for the travelogues – I can almost feel the crisp mountain air in my lungs as you motor up the Dolomites – for my Italian cousins in Summer the mountains are a cool haven if it’s the cool they seek and they do that regularly during the season.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 2, 2023 8:00 am

can’t stand him on the Teve. or previous on the radio.

He has a very stilted vocal delivery, very stiff posture, and very heavy style – compare it to Chris “It’s just a voice” Kenny or the Persian Princess.

He needs a couple of shots of scotch followed by a half-pint of Chill-the-f#ck-out before each show. Don’t interrupt the guests to articulate agreement when you need only kid or perhaps say “Yes” or “Exactly”. When you have guests let them run free unless the stray completely outside the paddock.

Then another half-pint.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 2, 2023 8:01 am

It begins.

John Lewis Stops Insuring Electric Cars Over Repair Cost Fears (1 Oct)

John Lewis has stopped offering insurance to electric car drivers amid fears over the cost of repairs.

The department store’s lending business John Lewis Financial Services has put a temporary pause on customers taking out cover or renewing existing policies on battery-power vehicles while its underwriter, Covéa, analyses risks and costs.

Particular worries surround the batteries, which are commonly mounted on the floor of the vehicle. This placement can make it more likely that it will be damaged even in a minor accident such as mounting a kerb.

According to Copart, an auction platform, around half the low-mileage electric vehicles it has salvaged have suffered minor battery damage.

Our road conditions are such that the risk of battery damage would be even more considerable. I can’t see the battery being moved in the design, it’s large and vulnerable – putting it at the front or the back would seriously endanger the driver during car accidents for example. And armouring it would add a lot more weight to an already heavy car, plus reduce range even more.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 2, 2023 8:02 am

Ahahahahaa.

Downtick me harder Daddy!

I crave it.

Crossie
Crossie
October 2, 2023 8:03 am

Heading for Salzburg tomorrow. Hope to escape from the somewhat cloying Tyrolean kitsch with its impulse to break us out into Alpine yodelling, and hear some Mozart instead.
Hence, avoiding anything to do with The Sound of Music in Salzburg.

We did that drive in 1991 in reverse, starting in Salzburg. Saw a car down a ravine that must have happened only hours earlier.

JC
JC
October 2, 2023 8:03 am

Talking about dogs. The Hidens gave away their first German Shepard because of multiple biting incidences. Their new dog has struck again biting another secret service agent.

Comment below the story was funny.

Even the Biden’s dogs are obnoxious criminals…

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 2, 2023 8:04 am

Comedy is forever.

You know, if you say ‘forever and ever and ever and ever…’ quickly it begins to sound like ‘for never an’ never an’ never…’

The exact opposite!

It’s a slippery slope.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 2, 2023 8:05 am

Are you on a footy trip?

Birth-givers of a certain age will find this tip very useful in times of need that will brook no waiting and needs no prompting from excessive consumption of beer. Unlike gentlemen, we cannot pretend to simply be standing there in contemplation examining the bark of a tree.

duncanm
duncanm
October 2, 2023 8:06 am

Petros
Oct 2, 2023 6:32 AM
Michael Smith has a quote from Paul Keating regarding the voice.

its a quote from ’93 regarding John Hewson’s agenda.

Gabor
Gabor
October 2, 2023 8:07 am

Also, never travel in a lift or car without your mobile phone and the local number for emergency services. It’s 112 in Italy, 999 in Britain and 000 in Australia, for example.

Or at least an axe.
Been caught in a brand new building half way between floors. I never travel in planes unless completely sedated, but that episode was worse than any airplane travel.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 2, 2023 8:07 am

Is there any member of the Biden family that is not dysfunctional?

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 2, 2023 8:09 am

Even the Biden’s dogs are obnoxious criminals…

It’s just the company the poor animals are forced to keep.

duncanm
duncanm
October 2, 2023 8:10 am
calli
calli
October 2, 2023 8:10 am

These server errors are tiresome

Dot
Dot
October 2, 2023 8:10 am

Mr Krabs is your typical Fatmerican, not Mr Rogers driving a Maserati Quattroporte.

I’m not anti American. Look at Kapernick. Spent all of his activism money, now begging to be a trainer and second string QB after Aaron Rodgers suffered a potentially career ending injury.

It’s a lack of morals, values, ethics and principles.

America now has ass culture.

A normal man dreams of Laufey, not Cardi B.

Who is way bigger? Who has crowds chanting vulgar lyrics? Body image is also totally distorted too. Fake lips, boobs and ass. Why was the MSM pushing LIZZO onto me? She’s objectively a fat whale. The accusations against her are pretty bad, but it’s all about Russell Brand.

I’ve read about something like that before, where the crowd begs for the worse option, screaming and chanting.

We’re not far behind in arse culture. The belligerence of the Woodside grifter is near legendary.

There is nothing wrong with acquiring wealth per se.

“But for Whales…?”

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
October 2, 2023 8:11 am

King’s Birthday holiday here in Qld.

If chucky doesn’t turn up soon I’m eating his cake.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 2, 2023 8:12 am

Ok Something Different?

The Queens Pedos: Lost Boys documentary links British intelligence to decades old mystery of missing boys

Violent paedophiles protected by British intelligence could lie at the heart of a decades old mystery surrounding the disappearance of five boys, a new documentary will show today.

The team behind Lost Boys: Belfast’s Missing Children has painstakingly pieced together documents and witness testimony to try and shine a light on how the young lads vanished, yet no one has ever been held accountable.

Their investigation has unearthed a raft of evidence pointing to how the lads’ disappearances could be linked to predatory paedophiles who were allowed to operate with impunity as they worked for one of a number of intelligence agencies.

And in a revelation that illustrates how this episode is no historical legacy of the Troubles, one former intelligence operative tells the film makers that MI5 fabricated documents which were presented to the 2014 Historical Institutional Abuse inquiry in an effort, it is suggested, to influence its outcome.

The one and a half hour film weaves through the darkest days of the Troubles painting a picture of a police force unable or unwilling to properly investigate any of the disappearances, before its grim journey reaches the door of the Kincora Boys Home in East Belfast.

If any conclusion is reached, it is that the Troubles provided the cover and opportunity for serial predators to prey on vulnerable children with little or no consequences. Worse still, some of those violent paedophiles were members of, or close to, loyalist paramilitary groups and had been recruited as informers, giving them a free reign to do what they liked.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 2, 2023 8:12 am

Going up in the Gondala today we saw two beautiful dogs in the family before us, all going up for the ride. One was a big shaggy labrador, and the other was a huge St. Bernard, shaggy with it too. Italians take their dogs everywhere and most places make them welcome. The Oetsi museum offers carriers for hire for small dogs and cages on wheels for bigger ones. You don’t have to leave Fido behind.

calli
calli
October 2, 2023 8:13 am

And….good morning to you too, my sad little munchkin.

Dot
Dot
October 2, 2023 8:15 am

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/report-aaron-rodgers-rejoined-the-jets-on-saturday

Aaron Rodgers doesn’t need to be replaced.

It’s over for the Kapernick. You can’t sell yourself back into “slavery”, old mate!

Crossie
Crossie
October 2, 2023 8:16 am

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Oct 2, 2023 7:57 AM
Oh, and a good tip too is to put one of those bottle opener gadgets that sommeliers have into the side pocket of each of your big suitcases. Then even if you leave one of them in a hotel room you always have another handy. European and South American wines often still have corks not screw tops and not all hotels provide these in your room.

In one hotel they provided a winery brand name corkscrew that I souvenired but bought a plain one in a nearby shop to leave in the room so the next guests had something to use. It was not exactly stealing.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 2, 2023 8:17 am

Another something different!

Ukraine’s Possible New Counteroffensive: ‘Camouflage’ for Zelensky to ‘Steal More Money From West’

The Zelensky regime had elaborated a plan for a major offensive in the Kherson and Zaporozhye region in early October, securing the approval of Ukraine’s sponsors in Washington and London, an informed source told Sputnik earlier this week.

According to the source, Kiev’s special forces intend to seize control of the Zaporozhye Nuclear Power Plant (NPP) as part of the blueprint.

All this could be Western countries’ red herring, Scott Bennett suggested, pointing to the Ukrainian Army’s futile attempts to break through Russian defensive lines.

He recalled that many perceive this facility as “a target for destruction in a kind of ‘doomsday’ button that the US might try and push, in an attempt to generate sufficient chaos and destruction to distract the world away from the small scale battles of Ukraine, to the global implications of a nuclear disaster.” According to the former psychological warfare officer, the potential destruction of the Zaporozhye NPP would be the “ultimate expression” of this chaos.

He warned that if the facility is destroyed, “the resulting tsunami of social, political, economic disruption would disorganize opposition parties and protests against the current political elites in Europe and America, and justify a lockdown or martial law and police state mentality which could be endlessly extended.”

Bennett didn’t rule out that “the West will combine its best liars in the CIA, the Mossad, the MI6 to blame the event on Russia, and perhaps also simultaneously initiate some self-inflicted false flag attacks at the same time—such as assassinate Joe Biden and Zelensky at the same time and blame this on Russia in order to justify ‘police action’ and a drafting of Americans into the military for conflict with Russia.”

“We’ve seen it in Vietnam, and the 9/11 war on terror, so they may try and do it again, sad to say. The American media, the most professional liars and propagandists since [Nazi] Germany’s Goebbels, have already planted in the minds of Americans that ‘Trump supporters’ are becoming Russia-sympathizing domestic terrorists who may try and assassinate Biden, so the writing is on the wall,” the former State Department analyst added.

Commenting on how Zelensky’s alleged new advance can be explained, given the failure of Kiev’s summer counteroffensive, Bennett claimed that the Ukrainian president is “a madman, or being told what to do by madmen—or both. I suspect the latter. “

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 2, 2023 8:19 am

“But for Whales…?”

LOL

That was from A Man for All Seasonings, I think. Sir Gimme More?

Gabor
Gabor
October 2, 2023 8:21 am

calli
Oct 2, 2023 8:13 AM

And….good morning to you too, my sad little munchkin.

I would regard it as a beauty spot, once it gets to 2 or more then maybe a possible disagreement?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 2, 2023 8:26 am

Unlike gentlemen, we cannot pretend to simply be standing there in contemplation examining the bark of a tree.

Of course you can.

‘Hey, look at this frog here in the grass.’

calli
calli
October 2, 2023 8:27 am

Gabor, I regard it as hilarious and a little OCD. Why do you think I made some stupid memes about it?

It reminds me of the horrid boy in class who used to do smells. Causes a reaction but they really just can’t help it. It’s all they have.

Tom
Tom
October 2, 2023 8:27 am

My role is to be quiet in a silent blue funk and enjoy the view.

Absolutely loving your travelogues, Lizzie. Priceless.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 2, 2023 8:27 am

“These Morons Are Pushing Us Towards WW3”: Sunak Backtracks After UK Defense Chief Wants To Send British Troops To Ukraine

BY TYLER DURDEN

British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak was forced to clarify the UK’s stance on sending troops to Ukraine, after newly appointed Defense Secretary Grant Shapps unveiled ongoing discussions about expanding the UK-led training program for Ukrainian troops, and potentially sending British instructors back into the country, while offering Kiev unspecified naval support in the Black Sea.

It didn’t take long for two things to happen: i) Russia condemning the proposal and warning it would accelerate WW3, and ii) the UK backtracking.

On Sunday, former Russian President Dmitry Medvedev who currently serves as the deputy head of Russia’s Security Council, suggested that British soldiers training Ukrainian troops in Ukraine would be legitimate targets for Russian forces, as would German factories producing Taurus missiles should they supply Kyiv. Medvedev, who is deputy chairman of Russia’s Security Council, and has become one of the most hawkish and anti-Western figures in Russian politics, said such steps by the West were bringing World War Three closer.

In a post on Telegram, Medvedev first slammed Shapps’s proposal to deploy military instructors to Ukraine, in addition to training Ukrainian armed forces in Britain or other Western countries as at present.

“(This will) turn their instructors into a legitimate target for our armed forces,” Medvedev wrote on Telegram. “Understanding perfectly well that they will be ruthlessly destroyed. And not as mercenaries, but namely as British NATO specialists.”

Medvedev then turned his focus to Germany, vilifying those who want Berlin to supply Ukraine with Taurus cruise missiles that could strike Russian territory and try to limit Moscow’s supply to its army.

“They say this is in accordance with international law. Well, in that case, strikes on German factories where these missiles are made would also be in full compliance with international law,” Medvedev said.

“These morons are actively pushing us towards World War Three,” Medvedev said.

Realizing that he probably does not want his government to end in a mushroom cloud, British PM Rishi Sunak quickly backtracked and during a visit to Burnley on Sunday, said he wanted to make the situation “absolutely clear,” explaining that Shapps did not mean British soldiers would be deployed in Ukraine during the conflict with Russia, claiming there was “some misreporting” of comments by Defense Secretary Shapps, who floated the idea; he did however say that the UK has been training Ukrainian soldiers on British soil for “for a long time.”

According to the PM, the defense secretary actually meant that “it might well be possible one day in the future for us to do some of that training in Ukraine.”

“But that’s something for the long term, not the here and now, there are no British soldiers that will be sent to fight in the current conflict. That’s not what’s happening,” he insisted.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 2, 2023 8:28 am

Unlike gentlemen, we cannot pretend to simply be standing there in contemplation examining the bark of a tree.

Liberty quote.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
October 2, 2023 8:29 am

Who knew that being the captain of the softball and debating team at Loreto Toorak would get you a Norm Smith gig?

The judges for the 2023 Norm Smith Medal

The AFL wishes to advise the judges for the 2023 Norm Smith Medal will be Luke Darcy (Channel Seven, Chair), Eddie Betts (All Australian Selector and Fox Footy), Jude Bolton (All Australian Selector and Triple M), Sarah Olle (AFL.com.au) and Luke Shuey (Retired West Coast Eagles Captain and 2018 Norm Smith Medallist).

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 2, 2023 8:30 am

Ok not only an Australian Problem

Homes Are “Unaffordable” In 99% Of US Counties

calli
calli
October 2, 2023 8:33 am

I’ve been trying to post my list of travel essentials but keep encountering server errors. It may be because it resembles a list for body disposal and WordPress has panicked.

Gabor
Gabor
October 2, 2023 8:40 am

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calli
Oct 2, 2023 8:27 AM

All I can think of is that you have a fan, deranged, disturbed he or she might be but tries to call attention to your posts.
Why else? An enemy of YOU for all people?

There are some posters here who are intensely disliked and get their fair share of the donwticks for no other reason.

This is the last time I make a comment about the “ticks” and may your dog be free form those for ever.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 2, 2023 8:41 am

It’s over for the Kapernick.

He may be moving to Canada, which is a suitably lefty place for him to go to.

Dot
Dot
October 2, 2023 8:41 am

Actually from a “serious” article on Global Boiling on Medium.

The Paradox of Air Conditioning

Can we overcome our addiction to cold air?

Walk around in the Sahara at midday for a while champ. You’ll kick your oxygen addiction toot sweet as well.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 2, 2023 8:41 am

Australia needs more public servants like Mike Pezzullo

The tall poppy who fixes government, makes it work and do things it otherwise could not, is the natural target for those who want to critique policy, without openly challenging it.

Robert Potter Cyber-security expert

When I first met Michael Pezzullo I was a reasonably small-business owner, full of ideas and struggling to get the Australian government to work on them. To deal with him as secretary of the Department of Home Affairs was to be in a pressure cooker, but one where the best idea had a chance of winning. It was a place moving forward where do nothing wasn’t an option for people who wanted to stay long in his good books.

Very quickly he circulated our ideas in the White House, and they became the basis of a good part of the federal government’s Ransomware Disruption Taskforce. And he also got us into the White House as part of the administration’s counter ransomware initiative. There is no other place in the Australian national security space that moves like this.

It’s very rare for the most senior figures in Australia’s national security industry to become famous, or notorious.

Looking at those attending senate estimates from the leadership of the Australian Public Service, Pezzullo is the antithesis of the modern APS mandarin.

He is politically savvy, trained in the minister’s office, deadly loyal to the government of the day and able to “get things done”.

He is not in a line of APS folks who go in front of estimates and don’t answer questions, he enjoys the dialogue.

From Iraq policy, border protection and now critical infrastructure cyber, he sees the big issues and can reliably ensure that the business of the portfolio cannot destroy a government.

He’s been so successful at it, he basically has a department of being Pezzullo. The department of getting stuff done.

He cuts a much more American than Australian figure.

In the States no one would blink at the head of the FBI or NSA having an opinion on the geopolitics of the day.

Or with them offering frank and fearless advice on how to balance the political decision-making with the policy agenda.

We say we want more ambition in our APS, more frank and fearless advice, more brawlers, but the last week shows we don’t.

The government had him fighting for cyber reform and he was making progress, that will be harder now.

Our APS talks of American ambition but knows there is a Washington safety net they can rely on, and so defers decisions until it can’t anymore. This is evident across our national security policy space – Huawei, China policy, submarines, helping Ukraine – we go late, often unprepared and at big expense.

Enter the new government which was set on more or less the same border policies, but these do not sit well with part of the party. Pezzullo, the tall poppy of the service, is the natural target for those who want to critique that policy, without openly challenging it.

He was there when the coalition did things they didn’t like, so it must be his fault. So people leak everything they can about him. No evidence of any corruption, just enough gossip to keep him in the headlines and embarrassed. He has not been accused of anything against the rules of his role, but if you throw enough mud some will stick.

The Lilliputians have rallied for a good old Aussie tall poppy cut-down, a favourite and much loved sport in Canberra.

Ignore that he was an ALP staffer originally and has been a vociferous implementer of Australia’s first Labor cyber minister. To get profound cybersecurity change done, it will need reformers and do-ers, unafraid to scrap with vested interests. Our challenges need people like Pezzullo.

The dogmas of the quiet past are inadequate to the stormy present. People smugglers don’t have corporate lobbyists the way critical infrastructure companies and TikTok do. There’s a fight coming, and we want to retire the APS’s heavyweight champ. The idea is to push him out on behalf of those who personally do not like him. We will get a more timid, less effective team as a result.

It will have an impact on border protection and China policy. Usually, one waits until after the war to turn on Coriolanus. The government held out so long on standing him down because no one wants to be the minister who has a boat arrival when they fired the secretary who built the system – it’s a political disaster in the making.

So while Canberra hunts for its national security tall poppy to cut down, the net loss will be more than the gain of curbing a large ego who is hard to work with.

The government had him fighting for cyber reform and he was making progress. That will be harder now. He’s been Australia’s man who fixes government, makes it work and do things it otherwise could not. As one large enemy arms to our north, the Department of Defence will sit without a brawler to lead it out of its profound inefficiency.

We will be worse off everywhere if he is forced to retire, and much worse off in general if we don’t build more public servants like him.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 2, 2023 8:46 am

Knuckle Dragger

Oct 2, 2023 7:51 AM

Et in Tartaria ego.

‘Well, what was I supposed to think?’

Aaaand a big good morning to millions of Australians in Teh DeaTh Camps.

The internet is forever. Lurkers are forever. Comedy is forever.

I’ve lost track.
How many months have we got left?

Crossie
Crossie
October 2, 2023 8:46 am

Mother Lode
Oct 2, 2023 8:28 AM
Unlike gentlemen, we cannot pretend to simply be standing there in contemplation examining the bark of a tree.

Liberty quote.

Not so fast, transwomen certainly can though I expect they would face the traffic just to offend.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
October 2, 2023 8:47 am

The future is something which everyone reaches at the rate of 60 minutes an hour, whatever he does, whoever he is.

– C. S. Lewis

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 2, 2023 8:50 am

Describes any Australian Govt or Public Service Department?

Part II – Something Necessary to Understand About Washington DC
October 1, 2023 – Sundance

DC operates like a school of fish stupid fish, a tribe that swarms together looking for consensus which allows them to not hold responsibility for their own shortcomings.

They view systems as solutions in order to avoid responsibility.

They are not emotionally stable, cogent, capable or independent thinkers.

They require tribalism to avoid what they lack.

These are not stable people.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 2, 2023 8:55 am

calli
Oct 2, 2023 8:10 AM

These server errors are tiresome

calli,

agreed and it seems to be random – I have tried multiple changes to posts but have been unable to identify problem – seems to be occuring more often now

flyingduk
flyingduk
October 2, 2023 9:02 am

https://wethepundit.com/former-major-city-police-detective-reveals-50-of-sids-cases-happened-within-48-hours-post-vaccine/

Further to yesterdays SIDS/SADS post ….

Temporal association of 2 events is a *strong* Bradford Hill indicator of causality.

Top Ender
Top Ender
October 2, 2023 9:02 am

Other travelling Cats may also have suggestions.

These days, take the smallest powerboard you can find – three or four outlets. Having to recharge two phones and a laptop at the same time can therefore be easily done.

Gabor
Gabor
October 2, 2023 9:04 am

OldOzzie
Oct 2, 2023 8:55 AM

calli
Oct 2, 2023 8:10 AM

These server errors are tiresome

agreed and it seems to be random – I have tried multiple changes to posts but have been unable to identify problem – seems to be occuring more often now

It is definitely random with no rhyme or reason, yesterday it was simply no go, today is fine as rain.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 2, 2023 9:09 am

Are you on a footy trip?

Ah, yes.
Carting a busload of pre-primed players on an end of season trip and each one is equipped with a slab?
Want the trip to run the scheduled four and a half hours?
The piss-a-phone is the answer.
A plastic funnel on the front steps with a piece of garden hose running out through the folding doors.
Strict instructions that it not be used in towns.
I think Klaus Schwab has the patent.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 2, 2023 9:10 am

Top Ender
Oct 2, 2023 9:02 AM

Other travelling Cats may also have suggestions.

These days, take the smallest powerboard you can find – three or four outlets. Having to recharge two phones and a laptop at the same time can therefore be easily done.

Top Ender,

sent my Wife & Sister in Law off to Japan, then Youngest Daughter and Family now in US with black one of these – worked perfectly for both

LENCENT Universal Travel Adapter, International Charger with 3 USB Ports & Type-C PD Charging Adaptor for Cellphones,Laptop, All in One Travel Plug Adapter for Over 200 Countries (USA UK EU AUS) White

https://www.amazon.com.au/LENCENT-Universal-International-Cellphones-Countries/dp/B0C1SFWF1W?th=1

lotocoti
lotocoti
October 2, 2023 9:10 am

Homes Are “Unaffordable” In 99% Of US Counties

You can, however, get a lot for your buck.

calli
calli
October 2, 2023 9:12 am

My list had to do with black plastic bags, little zip ones and clasp knives. And mini screwdriver set.

Indolent
Indolent
October 2, 2023 9:14 am
OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 2, 2023 9:14 am

How Sick-Day Culture Differs Around The World

BY TYLER DURDEN

Just over half of South Koreans do not take sick leave.

At least, that’s what the results of a survey of adults aged 18 to 64 carried out by Statista as part of its Consumer Insights show.

As Statista’s Martin Armstrong details below, another Asian country also displayed a high shares of people who said they had not taken sick leave in the previous 12 months, with Japan at 45 percent.

At the other end of the scale, Australian respondents mirrored a different sick day culture, with only 14 percent reporting an absence-free 12 months.

It’s a similar, if less pronounced, story in Germany, Sweden, Canada and the United States, where between 20 and 23 percent of respondents reported the same.

calli
calli
October 2, 2023 9:16 am

Also a single multi-country voltage converter like this and a small Aussie power board. Also a power bank.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 2, 2023 9:17 am

He may be moving to Canada, which is a suitably lefty place for him to go to.

Well, the waves of virtuous euphoria that swept up all those people who so earnestly encouraged him, crowing and clamouring about his bravery in taking the knee, have subsided. And while they sit back in their beds among damp twisted sheets, skin beaded with sweat, watching smoke winding languorously up from their cigarette and have already forgotten Kapernick’s name.

He must be thinking that, should Trump win next year, there will be a mass migration of progressives to Canada (their vows to leave the US if Trump wins can be taken as given) so he will be perfectly placed to pose not merely as victim, but as unbowed victim.

This time when he has his little virtue-trysts with the compassionate leftists he will make sure they leave some money on the dresser.

calli
calli
October 2, 2023 9:18 am

And a spare set of spectacles. Always.

Indolent
Indolent
October 2, 2023 9:18 am

Of course genetically engineering and then releasing them by the billion (as Bill Gates has admittedly done) has nothing to do with it.

Climate change is now being blamed for making mosquitoes GIANT and more dangerous

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
October 2, 2023 9:21 am
OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 2, 2023 9:21 am

Escobar: Russia-China Partnership Defangs US Empire

Faced with a cosmic NATO humiliation on the battlefield, the Biden combo has no way out: even if it declared a unilateral ceasefire to re-weaponize Kiev’s forces for a new counteroffensive in the spring/summer of 2024, the war would keep rumbling on all the way to the presidential election.

China’s State Council has released a crucial policy paper titled ‘A Global Community of Shared Future: China’s Proposals and Actions’ that should be read as a detailed, comprehensive road map for a peaceful, multipolar future.

That is if the hegemon – of course faithful to its configuration as War Inc. – does not drag the world into the abyss of a hybrid-turned-hot war with incandescent consequences.

Better Listen to Medvedev’s Warning

The hegemon is already preparing the next stages of its hybrid war against China – even as it remains buried deep down into a de facto proxy hot war against Russia in Ukraine.

Russian strategic policy, in essence, completely aligns with the Chinese white paper, proposing a Greater Eurasian Partnership, a concerted drive towards multipolarity, and the primacy of the Global South/global majority in forging a new system of international relations.

But the Straussian neocon psychos in charge of the hegemon’s foreign policy keep raising the stakes. So it’s no wonder that after the recent attack on the HQ of the Black Sea Fleet in Sevastopol, a new National Security Council report leads to an ominous warning by Security Council Deputy Chairman Dmitry Medvedev:

“NATO has turned into an openly fascist bloc similar to Hitler’s Axis, only bigger (…) It looks like Russia is being left with little choice other than a direct conflict with NATO (…) The result would be much heavier losses for humanity than in 1945.”

The Russian Ministry of Defense, meanwhile, has revealed that Ukraine has suffered a staggering 83,000 battlefield deaths since the start of the – failed – counteroffensive four months ago.

And Defense Minister Shoigu all but gave away the game in terms of the long-term strategy, when he said, “the consistent implementation of measures and activity plans until 2025 will allow us to achieve our goals.”

So the SMO will not be rounded up before 2025 – incidentally, much later than the next US presidential election. After all, Moscow’s ultimate aim is de-NATOization.

Faced with a cosmic NATO humiliation on the battlefield, the Biden combo has no way out: even if it declared a unilateral ceasefire to re-weaponize Kiev’s forces for a new counteroffensive in the spring/summer of 2024, the war would keep rumbling on all the way to the presidential election.

There’s absolutely no way some sharp intellect in the Beltway would read the Chinese white paper and be “infected” by the concept of harmony. Under the yoke of Straussian neocon psychos, there are zero prospects for a détente with Russia – not to mention Russia-China.

Both the Chinese and Russian leaderships know quite well how the Ray McGovern-defined MICIMATT (military-industrial-congressional-intelligence-media-academia-think tank complex) works.

The kinetic aspect of MICIMATT is all about protection of the global interests of big US banks, investment/hedge funds and multinational corporations.

It’s not a coincidence that MICIMATT monster Lockheed-Martin is mostly owned by Vanguard, BlackRock and State Street.

NATO is essentially a mafia protection racket controlled by the US and the UK that has nothing to do with “defending” Europe from the “Russian threat.”

The actual MICIMATT and its NATO extension’s wet dream is to weaken and dismember Russia to control its immense natural resources.

War Against the New ‘Axis of Evil’

NATO’s incoming graphic humiliation in Ukraine is now compounded with the inexorable rise of BRICS 11 – which embodies a lethal threat to the hegemon’s geoeconomics.

There’s next to nothing the MICIMATT can do about that short of nuclear war – except turbo-charging multiple instances of Hybrid War, color revolutions and assorted divide-and-rule schemes. What’s at stake is no less than a complete implosion of neoliberalism.

The Russia-China strategic partnership of true sovereigns has been coordinating full-time.

Strategic patience is the norm. The white paper reveals the magnanimous facet of the number one economy in the world by PPP: that’s China’s response to the infantile notion of “de-risking”.

China is “de-risking” geopolitically when it comes to not falling for serial provocations by the Hegemon, while Russia exercises Taoist-style control to not risk a kinetic war.

Still, what Medvedev just said carries the implication that the hegemon on desperation row could even be tempted to launch WWIII against, in fact, a new “axis of evil” of three BRICS nations – Russia, China and Iran.

Secretary of the [Russian] National Security Council Nikolai Patrushev could not have been more crystal clear:

“In its attempts to maintain its dominance, the West itself destroyed the tools that worked better for it than the military machine.

These are freedom of movement of goods and services, transport and logistics corridors, a unified system of payments, global division of labor and value chains. As a result, Westerners are shutting themselves off from the rest of the world at a rapid pace.”

If only they could join the community of shared future – hopefully on a later, non-nuclear, date.

Helen Davidson (nmrn)
Helen Davidson (nmrn)
October 2, 2023 9:23 am

Unlike gentlemen, we cannot pretend to simply be standing there in contemplation examining the bark of a tree.

Modern technology is amazing! 🙂

https://www.shewee.com/she-pee-extreme.html

lotocoti
lotocoti
October 2, 2023 9:23 am

Pat Condell brings the heat.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 2, 2023 9:24 am

A page-turner.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 2, 2023 9:26 am

And the next page.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 2, 2023 9:27 am

calli
Oct 2, 2023 9:18 AM

And a spare set of spectacles. Always.

calli,

Elder Daughter in Melbourne intorduced me to this option as after cataracts only need for reading, now no glasses for driving – sticks to back of mobile phone – works prefectly

ThinOptics Glasses and Pod Case
$34.95 inc GST

Choose Your Frame Color

https://thinoptics.com.au/product/glasses-and-pod-case/

Chris
Chris
October 2, 2023 9:32 am

Other travelling Cats may also have suggestions.

Lizzie, thank you for persisting in writing travelogues!
Suggestions of mine:
Traveling in many parts, a 9mm pistol close at hand gives a man comfort that he can protect his family.
If you come upon a section of road that has scattered rocks all over it and no evidence of formal road repairs, turn around and go the other way. It is probably a site of unrest where a big mob of stone-throwers have been ‘protesting’ at passing cars.
Always carry a modest supply of cash. Traffic stops for shakedowns by police are so much easier if you are prepared.
In parts where you do not know the local customs, your host can provide advice on what means of travel are likely to result in your abduction and murder.

Gabor
Gabor
October 2, 2023 9:32 am

lotocoti
Oct 2, 2023 9:23 AM

Pat Condell brings the heat.

Posted before, but thanks.
Brilliant mind but only the powerless us are listening.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 2, 2023 9:35 am
Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 2, 2023 9:35 am

On football tragedies:

Wallabies edge past Portugal, remain outside chance of making Rugby World Cup quarterfinals

Being touched up for half a game by the minnowest of rugby minnows, displaying traditional Aussie ill discipline, and losing their last recognised fly half to injury.

Now the long wait to see whether Fiji can hold it all together, or lose to Portugal next week and let Australia out of jail – to face England in the Quarterfinals.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 2, 2023 9:39 am

Talent trumps trouble.
Before, during & after Kaepernick was taking a knee, Marshawn Lynch would sit during the anthem (not always but most of the time).
He just didn’t care.
And he didn’t make a big thing out of it.
He got his pay check for him & his family and went home.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 2, 2023 9:43 am

Also a single multi-country voltage converter like this and a small Aussie power board. Also a power bank.

A petrol generator to run the water desalinator and air ioniser.

WolfmanOz
WolfmanOz
October 2, 2023 9:45 am

Gabor
Oct 2, 2023 7:01 AM
Black Ball
Oct 2, 2023 6:58 AM

Andrew Bolt:

I like his written stuff, can’t stand him on the Teve. or previous on the radio.

Ditto. Can’t watch his TV segment anymore but his articles are always worth catching.

Here’s hoping this comment gets through.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 2, 2023 9:48 am

Noongar advocate Dr Hannah McGlade requests United Nations experts to review Indigenous children removal in WA
Jake DietschThe West Australian
Mon, 2 October 2023 2:00AM
Comments

A United Nations expert panel is in WA to look into the shockingly high proportion of Aboriginal children in the State being removed from their homes.

Child protective services are currently removing Indigenous children from their families in WA at a higher rate than any other State or Territory.

The arrival on Sunday of law professors Sheryl Lightfoot, a Anishinaabe woman from Canada, and Valmaine Toki, a Maori woman, for nine days comes after approval from the Federal Government and at the request of Noongar advocate Dr Hannah McGlade.

The delegation will advise governments on transferring child protection decisions to Aboriginal bodies and “confronting discrimination and systemic bias in the child protection system”.

It will also look at addressing the “root causes” of child removal, such as domestic violence, and reducing the chances of children in foster care being imprisoned in later life.

Dr McGlade — a member of the UN Permanent Forum for Indigenous Issues — said it was a “significant” move because WA led the nation in child removals.

The most recent Family Matters report found the State’s Indigenous children were 16.7 times more likely to be removed than non-Indigenous children.

Nationally, Indigenous children are removed 9.7 times as often as non-Indigenous children.

“We know that closing the gap is not succeeding in this area and reform has been too slow,” Dr McGlade said.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 2, 2023 9:51 am

Knuckle Dragger

Oct 2, 2023 7:51 AM

Et in Tartaria ego.

‘Well, what was I supposed to think?’

Aaaand a big good morning to millions of Australians in Teh DeaTh Camps.

The internet is forever. Lurkers are forever. Comedy is forever.

Indeed.
The internet is forever.
But sometimes it only needs to last between 18 months and four years.
Anyway, gotta fly.
That’s my boxcar pulling up now.

Roger
Roger
October 2, 2023 9:53 am

Eye watering premium increases and in some cases a refusal to renew policies:
UK insurers increasingly wary of EV risks.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 2, 2023 9:54 am

If you are female in the front passenger seat and need to pee urgently and you are a long way from a toilet, you can stop in a lay-by with passenger side to the verge, open both passenger side doors to form a little cubicle, then drop your knickers crouch-perched…

We performed this manoeuvre on a lonely straight stretch of road – only for me to see in the rear view mirror a distant car indicating that it was coming in to join us.

I assisted the anguished squawks from outside by edging the car forward, nudging Mrs F along with the rear door, leaving a series of damp spots in the dust to mark each hop.

How we laughed…

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 2, 2023 9:59 am

Indigenous voice to parliament No vote campaign is sowing division

3 Jun 2023Campaigning against John Hewson, Fightback and the GST in 1993,

Keating said: “If you don’t understand it, don’t vote for it, and if you do understand it, you’d never vote for it”

From Courier Mail 3 June 2016

THE best killer line from a prime ministerial aspirant in the modern era was from Paul Keating in 1993 when he was taking part John Hewson’s manifesto for radical change, Fightback!

“If you don’t understand it, don’t vote for it”

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 2, 2023 10:03 am

Keating must have forgotten he originally proposed a consumption tax at Hawke’s tax summit. The notorious Option C. Always a purely political Liar grub.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
October 2, 2023 10:06 am

Keating must have forgotten he originally proposed a consumption tax at Hawke’s tax summit.

From memory Chapter 2 of “Fightback” was “The case for a consumption tax” quoting RJL Hawke & PJ Keating.

Roger
Roger
October 2, 2023 10:07 am

Missed this…

‘LGBT groups lobby for Voice to parliament”

The Australian 18 September

LGBT groups have welcomed the NSW government’s drive to listen religious leaders on policy but have urged the premier to honour a commitment to set up their own advisory council.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 2, 2023 10:10 am

THE best killer line from a prime ministerial aspirant in the modern era was from Paul Keating in 1993 when he was taking part John Hewson’s manifesto for radical change, Fightback!

Keating was never asked, during that campaign, how he could support a G.S.T. as part of Option C for tax reform in the late 1980’s.

Rufus T Firefly
Rufus T Firefly
October 2, 2023 10:12 am

“British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak was forced to clarify the UK’s stance on sending troops to Ukraine, …..”
The word MORE, should be inserted before the third last word.

Yavoriv, (close to the Polish border), was hit in March 2022.
It was a training centre, set up by the British military.
Unfortunately, a significant number of British “volunteers” as well as Ukraine troops were eliminated.

The continual escalating of the conflict, by the US and UK in particular, if it continues, WILL lead to a nuclear exchange.
Firstly ammunition, then howitzers, then drones, then tanks, then depleted Uranium shells, then Cluster munitions, (because Uncle Sam has nothing else to give, sod the Ukrainians), then Long Range missiles, probably F-16’s and now, boots on the ground.

For Royal Navy vessels to enter the Black Sea, Turkey must give approval.
Whilst I doubt that will occur, you can never say never, but that would be a blessing in disguise for the Royal Navy. Any RN vessel entering the Black Sea, will not exit.

Luckily, the UK, US and NATO are not participants in the war. Definitely not.
I believe that, ….., I’m sure the Muscovites agree.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 2, 2023 10:13 am

A United Nations expert panel is in WA to look into the shockingly high proportion of Aboriginal children in the State being removed from their homes.

That’s an odd way to spell “rescued”.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 2, 2023 10:17 am

How we laughed…

The Royal wee?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 2, 2023 10:20 am

A gentleman never finds amusement in a lady’s impromptu roadside ablutions.
Never.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 2, 2023 10:23 am

LGBT groups lobby for Voice to parliament

So when can we have a Christian Voice to parliament?

Hindu, Sikh, Muslim, Scientologist and Rastafarian Voices would probably be useful as well. Parliament House could play hymns and Bob Marley songs in the elevators.

calli
calli
October 2, 2023 10:25 am

Everyone already has a voice.

It’s called Polling Day.

Don’t like it? Go live in a dictatorship.

Roger
Roger
October 2, 2023 10:28 am

A United Nations expert panel is in WA to look into the shockingly high proportion of Aboriginal children in the State being removed from their homes.

That’s an odd way to spell “rescued”.

The local indigenous activist who requested federal government approval for the UN panel’s investigation, Dr. Hannah McGlade, has already determined the root cause: domestic violence.

In which case that can’t be the reason for the inquiry.

I have a feeling ‘intergenerational trauma’ may get a run.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
October 2, 2023 10:29 am

I don’t make jokes. I just watch the government and report the facts.

– Will Rogers

Rufus T Firefly
Rufus T Firefly
October 2, 2023 10:29 am

Should the screech get up, you can bet London to a brick, that Muslims will be next in the queue, to get their own voice.

The LGBTQI elites will have to take a number.

Remember, that at the last Federal election, we were told by the AEC that 30% of the electorate “did not vote!”
Not voted informally, but did not show up to vote! Does that sound right to you?

I am not suggesting that the Minister for Everything and his gang of spineless shills of the UniParty, was dudded in any way.
Independents were expected to receive about that percentage though.
Can’t have independent thought entering Parliament, the proles may not be as shafted, if that was to occur.
Much better to keep worthless pricks like Birmingham, Fletcher, Littleproud and Dutton as the “great white hopes”.

I wrote to the AEC requesting the number of fines sent out, compared to the previous two elections.
You wouldn’t read about it, they hadn’t finalised the details, ….., after four months.
Golly gosh!

For the referendum, I would suggest that you:
a. Vote on the day and
b. Take a pen. Do not vote in pencil.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 2, 2023 10:29 am

UN will need to get their socialist scolds Down Under shortly. Nice work coming into a European winter.

Roger
Roger
October 2, 2023 10:32 am

Everyone already has a voice.

It’s called Polling Day.

Ah…but if that were the case they wouldn’t be oppressed.

Don’t like it? Go live in a dictatorship.

Or turn Australia into a place where dissent from the dogmas of neo-Marxist identity politics will not be tolerated.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 2, 2023 10:34 am

A gentleman never finds amusement in a lady’s impromptu roadside ablutions.

Except the Perth Cup carpark, right?

shatterzzz
October 2, 2023 10:37 am

This dog breed looks a delight – very expensive though – life span 15-18 years

My middle daughter’s got 2 mutts that look a lot like these .. may or may not be the same breed …….
I did use lotza excitable language when she told me, “$4 000 each” .. tho!
FFS!!! … $4 000 for a mutt ……!!!!

shatterzzz
October 2, 2023 10:42 am

?izzie, we travel with whatever fits in carry-on baggage. No lost luggage, had enough of that. Laundromats are your friend.

Being a “houso” I alwayz took just carry-on and used op-shops too top-up ..
I’m sure my “houso” maaate, Luigi does the same from some of his photo shootz ..!

lotocoti
lotocoti
October 2, 2023 10:44 am

Lindsey lays it on thick.
If Poots had the means to keep going, he would’ve been at the Dnieper a year ago.

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
October 2, 2023 10:48 am

My wife is working for AEC at a local booth again. Shes been doing the online training. As Dutton pointed out they accept a tick as a Yes but a X is not accepted as a No vote. Its a legacy thing apparently. However they do look to see if the intentions of the voter can clearly be determined. Will accept Nope or No way.

I then asked about other variances…
NFW!
Stick it where the sun dont shine!
FU Albo
A penis drawing..

No response.

Roger
Roger
October 2, 2023 10:51 am

Britain’s businesses are battling to make their “entitled” ‘Generation Covid’ employees return to the office, with many now “viewing work as an inherent negative”.

Big Four accounting firm KPMG – which employs 14,000 people in the UK – said it gave the freebie to workers including offers of vegan meals and the British staple ‘fish and chip Fridays’ – but despite this office based work is still on the decline.

— The Daily Mail

The joke is on big business.

Here’s the punchline:

The UK Health Security Agency recently conceded that there’s no good evidence that lockdowns worked.

That worked well then.

calli
calli
October 2, 2023 10:51 am

Don’t take the risk and spoil your ballot. Write a simple “No” if that is your intent. Write it inside the box, nothing outside.

And use a pen.

This is adult stuff, so be an adult, no matter how much you want to embellish your paper with fine artistry and life drawing. 😀

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
October 2, 2023 10:52 am

My wife has also worked / supervised previous polling booths.

She was initially surprised by the sheer quantity of penis drawings on ballot papers. The quality varied considerably …from a childs drawing to detailed works of art deserved of a gallery.
Please no hung jokes.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 2, 2023 10:53 am

So when can we have a Christian Voice to parliament?

Straights, whites, males, and Christians, due to their demographic and economic preponderance, are deemed to be so due to privilege and inbuilt biases in the political system.

They will never be given a special voice because they are the ones the activist groups insist are the source of injustice to be corrected.

Activists lie – they believe their cause gives them license. They lie because mere democracy might not achieve their objective but they must work within one, so they lie to hoodwink the demos into doing what they would not otherwise.

Look at the nonsense spewed by warmies!

At some point we will have some lobby group pointing out that half of the hands in the world are left, and half right – yet people are overwhelmingly right handed. Right-handed privilege will be the scourge of the times. We will have to do something to save the lives of the thousands of left-handed suicides per week.

This is the Tranny thing writ left handed.

These imbeciles will mutilate nature to achieve their own sense of geometric symmetry.

Chris
Chris
October 2, 2023 10:53 am

FFS!!! … $4 000 for a mutt ……!!!!

The mullet of dogs, the Staffy, surely costs that much?
When you consider how much happiness for your family you get for your money, a dog is surely worth a lot.
But I think it better to put the money to genetic stability and selected fitness than a ‘designer’ look.
FMD, the hotties in exercise wear in the Golden Triangle suburbs that are walking French Bulldogs these days!!!
Labradoodles are SO last year, you know.

calli
calli
October 2, 2023 10:53 am

Receive food if you work. Sounds fair.

Receive a DCM if you fail to turn up. That’s fair too. Go hungry.

local oaf
October 2, 2023 11:01 am

Remember, that at the last Federal election, we were told by the AEC that 30% of the electorate “did not vote!”

There’s been so little public discussion of the actual numbers re non-voting in the recent federal election. I thought it was about 10%, which was very high historically.

Is there a publicly acknowledged figure available?

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
October 2, 2023 11:02 am

“If you don’t understand it, don’t vote for it”

If you don’t understand it, don’t invest in it.

– Investing 101

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 2, 2023 11:04 am

Labradoodles are SO last year, you know.

That’s a problem. One morning saw 4 in the park and nothing else.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 2, 2023 11:04 am

H B Bear

Oct 2, 2023 10:34 AM

A gentleman never finds amusement in a lady’s impromptu roadside ablutions.

Except the Perth Cup carpark, right?

Hypothetical.
One is most unlikely to find a gentleman or a lady at the Perth Cup.

shatterzzz
October 2, 2023 11:07 am

a Anishinaabe woman from Canada
Ya gotta feelz for these sort of tribes , dont ya?
Anishinaabe just don’t roll of the lips like, Apache, Comanche, Sioux or even Cheyenne does when Hollywood cames looking for injun tribe superstardom …….!

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 2, 2023 11:08 am

I am told that AEC staff may not wear campaign apparel.
But t-shirts with Aboriginal motifs which look remarkably similar to “Yes” branding are acceptable.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 2, 2023 11:09 am

A United Nations expert panel is in WA to look into the shockingly high proportion of Aboriginal children in the State being removed from their homes.

Purely co incidence that they are here just before the “voice” ballot?

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 2, 2023 11:09 am

One is most unlikely to find a gentleman or a lady at the Perth Cup.

True. Somehow the hangovers and heat seem to deny it the 2 or 3 hours of civility of a day at Melbourne Cup week event.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 2, 2023 11:09 am

Johnny Rotten

Oct 2, 2023 11:02 AM

“If you don’t understand it, don’t vote for it”

If you don’t understand it, don’t invest in it.

That would limit your options to “cash in a Milo tin” wouldn’t it?

Chris
Chris
October 2, 2023 11:11 am

Labradoodles are SO last year, you know.

That’s a problem. One morning saw 4 in the park and nothing else.

Vinnes and Red Cross donation bins for THEM, sadly!

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 2, 2023 11:12 am

Somehow the hangovers and heat seem to deny it the 2 or 3 hours of civility of a day at Melbourne Cup week event.

Yes.
You see stuff which can be given a pass at 6:00 PM.
But at 10:00 AM?

Roger
Roger
October 2, 2023 11:14 am

Receive food if you work. Sounds fair.

It would appear that free greasy fish and chips from the staff cafeteria isn’t enough to lure Gen Z accountants out from under the duvet. At least not while they’re still getting paid and can order Uber Eats.

Chris
Chris
October 2, 2023 11:14 am

A United Nations expert panel is in WA to look into the shockingly high proportion of Aboriginal children in the State being removed from their homes.

Purely co incidence that they are here just before the “voice” ballot?

Ja, nee, Meinheer.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 2, 2023 11:15 am

One is most unlikely to find a gentleman or a lady at the Perth Cup.

Ladies of easy virtue tend to abound.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
October 2, 2023 11:15 am

Whoever made this decision should be put in stocks in the town square in Drummoyne, Five Dock and Concord turn about with a bucket of overripe fruit — what an absolutely disgraceful waste of ratepayers money and resources: Talk about democracy and fairness dies in darkness!! I hope Mr Nylund wins this but the costs and any punitive damages should be taken from the pockets of those responsible for this absurdity.
From the Australian:

Ex-Olympian gymnastics coach sacked after referring to girls’ team as ‘beautiful’
The picture Mr Nylund sent that prompted the sexual objectification allegation. Picture: Supplied
By ALEXI DEMETRIADI
NSW POLITICAL REPORTER

A former Australian Olympic gymnast and Commonwealth Games medal winner has been sacked by a Sydney council for sending a picture of his young gymnastics team celebrating a competition win, describing them as “our beautiful team”, which council alleged “sexually objectified” the athletes.

The coach, Lindsay Nylund, described the sacking as “absurd … and a disgraceful attack”.

The 65-year-old competed at the 1980 Moscow Olympics, and won bronze and silver at the 1978 Edmonton Commonwealth Games for Australia.

Mr Nylund had, until his termination earlier this year, worked as high-performance coach at Sydney’s inner-west Five Dock Leisure Centre, run and operated by City of Canada Bay Council.

He was coaching six young gymnasts aged between 12 and 16, and overseeing the wider gymnastics program.

In May, he was quietly sacked, leaving his students, their parents, and his colleagues in the dark.

Attempts to appeal the decision were unfruitful and led the coach to take the case to the NSW Industrial Relations Commission.

Four allegations were used by the council in their termination notice, although it was the sexual objectification allegation that essentially blacklisted the coach.

In February, Mr Nylund sent an email to parents and senior council staff, including community and leisure director Russell Wolfe, with a picture of four girls in the high-level squad with awards from a competition that day.

“Hi all … Our beautiful FDLC Level 8 Women’s Artistic Gymnasts,” he wrote. “All achieved a top 6 apparatus placing in their respective divisions at the first state trial competition of the year.

“The next state trial is in two weeks – onwards and upwards!”

The following day, Mr Wolfe replied thanking the coach for the update: “Congratulations to everyone involved.”

Documents obtained by The Australian reveal the allegations centred around the picture and usage of the word “beautiful”, which the council said “sexually objectified the athletes” with “inappropriate language”, a breach of Sport Integrity Australia’s Child Safe Practice.

The allegations were contained in Mr Nylund’s termination in May, three months after sending the picture and receiving Mr Wolfe’s response.

“The word beautiful is frequently used to describe gymnasts and their performances on Gymnastics Australia and Gymnastics NSW social media pages,” Mr Nylund said in a statement after his dismissal. “The context of the email and photos was clearly one of pride in the achievement of the gymnasts at the competition.”

In a show-cause response to the council, Mr Nylund said the term referred to the team’s performance. “It was used to describe the excellent performances demonstrating skill and artistry in sport, and to celebrate a proud moment for the gymnasts, parents and council staff who were sent the email,” Mr Nylund said.

Both Gymnastics NSW and council’s Five Dock Leisure Centre have posted similar pictures of child gymnasts on social media, using the word “beautiful” when describing athletes and staff.

The Australian has seen consent forms, signed by parents, giving council permission to use their children in promotional materials.

The three other allegations against Mr Nylund are that he “showed a lack of respect to management” by allowing a one-week membership fee freeze when it should have been two, and that he transported athletes without parent consent and attended a social event at a local club, both of which council said breached Child Safe Practice guidelines.

Mr Nylund, in a show cause response to council, said there had been a misunderstanding among himself and colleagues as to the time freeze policy.

The former coach also rejected claims he transported three children after a competition without consent, telling council he had been instructed to by a colleague. Mr Nylund provided correspondence – seen by this publication – from the three parents confirming they’d given verbal permission.

Mr Nylund also produced evidence to council showing he had received correspondence from a Gymnastics Australia child safety officer before a social dinner with parents and athletes, who advised his attendance would not breach its guidelines.

It is understood parents of that high-performance cohort – and others across different levels of programs – are steadfast in support of Mr Nylund, and wrote to the council expressing this.

It is also understood that as part of any investigation, the parents, students and colleagues of Mr Nylund were not interviewed.

A four-day hearing at the NSW IRC is set for mid-November.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 2, 2023 11:17 am

But t-shirts with Aboriginal motifs which look remarkably similar to “Yes” branding are acceptable.

Are they still getting it? For normies it will just be one more instance of having it rammed down their throats by a government institution. It will not win any one over to the Yes camp but might propel a few people still ambivalent to side with the No – just to spite the bullies.

Chris
Chris
October 2, 2023 11:18 am

I think we should start comparing people like Proud Noongar Woman Professor with the bullies in Darwin or supermarket carparks humbugging young mums for go-away money, or the Geraldton bloke hitting on a picnicker in the park for beer.

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
October 2, 2023 11:18 am

I have considered and dismissed whether the fix was in with the AEC / VEC. My better half has been a supervisor for a Mulgrave VIC booth (stayed neutral but detested Dictator Dan). She knew before they opened the boxes for counting that Dan would romp it home. 99% of voters in her booth came in with how to vote labor flyers. Rarely saw a Liberal or other flyer. Needless to say English was not their first language (nor second, third, other). Seeing the results in the following weeks there were several booths where Dan had 80%+. Unbelievable as they say. Whereas surrounding areas it dropped away to be a more even result and a couple of booths where the non Labor got up.
The fix is in with multi cultis well before polling day.

I wonder if the referendum and the by election Dans caused will go the same way in these areas.

(Mulgrave VIC was Dans electorate).

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 2, 2023 11:19 am

Top judge leads push on judicial immunity

EXCLUSIVE
By jamie walker
Associate Editor
6:50AM October 2, 2023

The head of Queensland’s District Court has demanded clarification from the state government of a bombshell finding that a federal judge in Brisbane was personally liable for wrongly sending a man to jail.

Chief Judge Brian Devereaux wrote to state Attorney-General Yvette D’Ath after judge Salvatore Vasta of the Federal Circuit and Family Court was ordered to pay $50,000 of a $309,000 damages award to the imprisoned father-of-two in August.

The case has thrown into question whether the legal immunity covering judges of the Federal Court, Supreme Court and High Court extends to those in intermediate-level jurisdictions.

Judge Devereaux is understood to have sought an assurance from Ms D’Ath that this protection applied to District Court judges, as was assumed prior to the Vasta decision.

The Attorney-General declined to comment, citing moves last week to appeal against the finding, including by Judge Vasta.

“I’m advised several notices to appeal have been filed,” Ms D’Ath said. “It wouldn’t be appropriate to comment any further until those matters are decided.”

In the Federal Court last month, judge Michael Wigney ruled that Judge Vasta had displayed an “almost contemptuous disregard for the rule of law” when he jailed the man in 2018 for contempt of court during a family law proceeding.

Judge Vasta had attempted to rely on the doctrine of judicial immunity, holding that judges cannot ordinarily be sued for their decisions in court, after the man identified by the pseudonym of Mr Stradford, went after him, the state of Queensland and the commonwealth for damages over his wrongful imprisonment. He had spent five “miserable” days in a police watch-house cell and two further days in a Brisbane jail during which he said he was bashed, became suicidal and woke to a cellmate attempting to strangle him. He was freed after the order jailing him for a maximum of 12 months was quashed.

In finding against Judge Vasta, Justice Wigney on August 30 said it was “highly unusual” for a judge to be held liable for false imprisonment. But after combing through hundreds of years of case law to pinpoint the scope of judicial immunity available to lower-court judges, he found Judge Vasta was not protected because he had acted in excess of his powers.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 2, 2023 11:20 am

describing them as “our beautiful team”, which council alleged “sexually objectified” the athletes.

They think beauty is only applicable to sexual appeal?

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 2, 2023 11:22 am

How we laughed…

The Royal wee?

Like you wouldn’t believe.
Or, perhaps, might.

calli
calli
October 2, 2023 11:22 am

It is also understood that as part of any investigation, the parents, students and colleagues of Mr Nylund were not interviewed.

What part of “investigation” do the investigators not understand?

Careful what you might find.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 2, 2023 11:22 am

The fix is in with multi cultis well before polling day.

Nothing like an ethnic branch stack.

Roger
Roger
October 2, 2023 11:23 am

Purely co incidence that they are here just before the “voice” ballot?

The problem for Albanese & Co. on that front is that people have grown weary of their good will being manipulated and have switched off.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 2, 2023 11:26 am

What part of “investigation” do the investigators not understand?

Just like the Hawthorn blackfella investigation (now buried RIP). The first thing you know about it is the front page of the Herald Sun..

calli
calli
October 2, 2023 11:27 am

Dover, it seems to me that the “error” happens when several comments appear with the same or close timestamp. Clearing the cache, reopening the page sometimes works, sometimes not.

I just leave it for a few minutes and put the kettle on or hang out the washing. No good jabbing away and making matters worse. If it’s a serious comment, I usually save it to notes for later. And if I’m being dumb, I thank my guardian angel that it doesn’t go through.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 2, 2023 11:29 am

I think we should start comparing people like Proud Noongar Woman Professor with the bullies in Darwin

Or the “activists” here claiming to be part of the “Stolen Generation”, even though they weren’t born until several years after those removals ceased.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
October 2, 2023 11:31 am

They think beauty is only applicable to sexual appeal?

Mother Lode, that’s an excellent point.
I’d hunt for where one of those councilors had written of a “beautiful sunset” or some such, then in the wordsmithy manner of a top silk, set to work publicly mocking the blazes out of the poonce.

Petros
Petros
October 2, 2023 11:32 am

Anishinaabe.
Sorry, I sneezed.

Roger
Roger
October 2, 2023 11:34 am

What part of “investigation” do the investigators not understand?

Careful what you might find.

Nothing?

calli
calli
October 2, 2023 11:38 am

Nothing?

I was thinking more of a complainant with an axe to grind.

Seems to me they fix on a “crime” then make sure everything they gather confirms it. Very Soviet.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 2, 2023 11:38 am

But I think it better to put the money to genetic stability and selected fitness than a ‘designer’ look.
[…]
Labradoodles are SO last year, you know.

Agree.
We had an early model Labradoodle, born from accidental miscegeny rather than design – and well before unscrupulous breeders realised you could ask $2000+ a pup, for something with an amusing ‘breed’ name that doesn’t shed.

He was a huge dog, smart, full of hybrid vigour, cheap to run and a very satisfying domestic servant. Unlike the inbreds you now frequently see in the doodle category – a bit dim and with strange and expensive conditions.

As always, innocent victims of human greed and stupidity.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 2, 2023 11:40 am

dover0beach
Oct 2, 2023 11:21 AM

Just a question re the internal server errors, are people getting them when posting comments just on the OTs or are they also getting them on the other threads too?

dover,

only OT

Barry
Barry
October 2, 2023 11:41 am

Hawthorne blackfella investigation scheduled to restart 15th Oct 2023.

Roger
Roger
October 2, 2023 11:42 am

Seems to me they fix on a “crime” then make sure everything they gather confirms it. Very Soviet.

I was wondering whether the powers that be didn’t want the gentleman gone because of his age and sex, the complaint being a pretext.

Makka
Makka
October 2, 2023 11:42 am

dover, only seen on OT.

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
October 2, 2023 11:42 am

Sancho Panzer
Oct 2, 2023 11:08 AM
I am told that AEC staff may not wear campaign apparel.
But t-shirts with Aboriginal motifs which look remarkably similar to “Yes” branding are acceptable.

I have checked and confirmed this. Like WTF? The good news is AEC staff have to wear an apron which identifies them as from the AEC…effectively covering most of t-shirt motif.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
October 2, 2023 11:45 am

What part of “investigation” do the investigators not understand?

‘Zackerly Calli. The council should put them onto a shovel & have them filling potholes.
Lieutenant Columbo of the LAPD would give those .. ahem… investigators such a dressing down they’d be able to slither out under the door without needing to open it.

Tom
Tom
October 2, 2023 11:46 am

Dover, I had only seven cartoons accepted this morning. Two others were rejected, including one I resubmitted unsuccessfully. Normally, resubmitting URLs sees them accepted.

The problem seems to be random.

My hunch is that it’s time to Get A Man In. I’m sure Cats would help with costs if required.

Roger
Roger
October 2, 2023 11:48 am

I was wondering whether the powers that be wanted the gentleman gone because of his age and sex, the complaint being a pretext.

Chris
Chris
October 2, 2023 11:50 am

As always, innocent victims of human greed and stupidity.

Indeed.
The poor wee doggos.

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
October 2, 2023 11:53 am

I’ve been listening to the Rest is History podcast from UK. Interesting series on fascism in UK 1910s to 1930s. Good old Oswald Mosley heading up the British Union of Fascists. Back in the day Fascism did not have the stink about it which it has today. Most were not aware what it would eventually lead to. One point that stood out to me was that Mosley put forward a government model where a board of experts is set up and decisions are turned over to them. Sounds familiar… You know like Dan Andrews did here in Victoria or the UN is proposing. Who am we to argue with the experts? The science? The polling? For these are top men, Top Men!

Dot
Dot
October 2, 2023 11:53 am

Rufus T Firefly
Oct 2, 2023 10:29 AM

Should the screech get up, you can bet London to a brick, that Muslims will be next in the queue, to get their own voice.

The LGBTQI elites will have to take a number.

Remember, that at the last Federal election, we were told by the AEC that 30% of the electorate “did not vote!”
Not voted informally, but did not show up to vote! Does that sound right to you?

This is bullshit, the AEC never said this, crawl back to the Russian embassy thanks, champ.

Diogenes
Diogenes
October 2, 2023 11:54 am

Voices would probably be useful as well.

Why stop there? Rev heads, rail fans, sports nuts, aviation enthusiasts, fishermen, hunters, boaties, 4wdrivers, grey nomads and even Collingwood supporters are deserving a Voice.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 2, 2023 11:57 am

I have checked and confirmed this. Like WTF? The good news is AEC staff have to wear an apron which identifies them as from the AEC…effectively covering most of t-shirt motif.

The point is, temporary staff should be told to wear plain clothing. No logos, no brands, no slogans, no artwork. If they can’t manage that, don’t apply.

Roger
Roger
October 2, 2023 11:59 am

One point that stood out to me was that Mosley put forward a government model where a board of experts is set up and decisions are turned over to them.

In another context, this was more or less Plato’s ideal form of government.

Karl Popper thought 20th C. totalitarianism had its roots in Plato.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 2, 2023 12:00 pm

Boy am I Glad I stayed Covid Unvaccinated!

DNA contamination of the mRNA vaccines. Would you like a part of an SV40 monkey virus with that?

By Jo Nova

Three labs confirm fragments of DNA from manufacturing are left in the mRNA vaccines

We injected 70% of the world’s population with a barely tested admixture that included random lengths of DNA.

We don’t know for sure if that DNA has been inserted into our nuclear DNA, but we’re not really looking either. The government just says mRNA can’t change your DNA.

But could contaminated mRNA which is packaged in lipid nanoparticles, with gene therapy vectors and enhancers do that? Maybe, but whatever you do, don’t run those tests, right?

Are we changing germline genetics of the human race — getting into sperm or egg cells? We don’t know.

These are just the games we play these days. We could easily have run those tests on sperm at least, before we approved anything in young fertile adults and children, but we didn’t.

A Chinese scientist that did that once in a different experiment ended up in jail. Some researchers are quite concerned to put it mildly. The odds may be low, but the numbers are astronomical. After a few billion hands of poker everyone has a Royal Flush.

In March, Kevin McKernan, a molecular biologist, found DNA contamination in Pfizer’s mRNA Covid vaccines and published this in here and here.

As soon as Kevin McKernan put out his paper on the presence of small fragments of SV40, the Factcheckers arrived to flood the scene with strawmen — declaring there’s no SV40 virus in vaccines — which is true, but no one said there was.

Now the presence of remnant DNA has been confirmed by two independent labs (Dr. Sin Lee and Philip Buckhaults) — so it wasn’t a freak finding or a mistake. It really is that bad. Indeed, Phillip Buckhaults set out to show the fears were overblown but instead, in astonishment, confirmed what McKernan found.

“My plan was to examine the vaccine to debunk the fear of SV40 being in the vaccine. … I checked them first by a PCR assay that uses primers against the vector, and lo and behold, it fired very hot. A very, very high signal. … and son of the gun, Kevin McKernan was right, this plasmid is present in the vaccine. I proved that there is NOT SV40 full virus, but there is plasmid DNA. And that plasmid does have a little piece of SV40 in it. “

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 2, 2023 12:04 pm

Why stop there? Rev heads, rail fans, sports nuts, aviation enthusiasts, fishermen, hunters, boaties, 4wdrivers, grey nomads and even Collingwood supporters are deserving a Voice.

No.
No they don’t.
Broelman’s cartoon this morning – Dutton telling AFL fans “Keep it down! You can’t use your voice until we know the detail”.
A better footy analogy would be giving one of the cheer-squads the ability to stop the game whenever they like and request a particular adjudication.
And they can sit where they like.
And get free hot-dogs.
And stay on for the cricket season and interfere with that too.
Then lock everyone who isn’t a cheer-squad member out of the ground.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 2, 2023 12:06 pm

Interesting Fair Shake.
It appears this is a standard AEC instruction, not just a local adjudication to a question.
Almost as if it has been set up.
Like the ticks and crosses thing.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 2, 2023 12:09 pm

Roger

Oct 2, 2023 11:48 AM

I was wondering whether the powers that be wanted the gentleman gone because of his age and sex, the complaint being a pretext.

Nothing’s changed really.
Just the Arthur Tunstall’s of the 80’s have been replaced with feminista warriors.

Dot
Dot
October 2, 2023 12:11 pm

Downvoting facts eh, Russian embassy boy?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Australian_federal_election

Keep in mind these figures are from the AEC and provisional figures closely matching this for the House and for Senate first preferences were available that night after polls closed.

At the last Federal election, 97.1% of eligible persons were enrolled to vote.

https://www.aec.gov.au/Enrolling_to_vote/Enrolment_stats/national/2022.htm

House of Reps, 2022:

Invalid/blank votes: 802,337 (5.19%)
Turnout: 15,461,379 (89.82%)

Senate, 2022:

Invalid/blank votes: 532,003 (3.42%)
Turnout: 15,572,661 (90.47%)

Remember, that at the last Federal election, we were told by the AEC that 30% of the electorate “did not vote!”
Not voted informally, but did not show up to vote! Does that sound right to you?

They never said this and none of the data they publish bears this out.

I hope you can find your way back to 78 Canberra Avenue after last night’s piss-up.

Top Ender
Top Ender
October 2, 2023 12:12 pm

are people getting them when posting comments just on the OTs or are they also getting them on the other threads too?

Never tried on another thread, so only OT for me.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 2, 2023 12:12 pm

One point that stood out to me was that Mosley put forward a government model where a board of experts is set up and decisions are turned over to them.

Might not have the same appeal post Covid. Experts, why don’t you take tomorrow off?

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 2, 2023 12:14 pm

Watch out! Bird droppings.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 2, 2023 12:14 pm

41% OF FRENCH IN FAVOR OF THE PROPOSAL OF A QUOTA OF 4 FLIGHTS PER PERSON IN A LIFETIME, ADVANCED BY ENGINEER JEAN-MARC JANCOVICI

On May 30, engineer Jean-Marc Jancovici, an expert on climate change, once again called for drastically limiting plane travel, and declared the need to establish a quota of 4 flights per person in a lifetime. Numerous reactions followed, for and against this proposal.

While the carbon footprint of the aviation sector is regularly singled out in the fight against global warming, and the reduction in the use of aircraft is often cited as one of the measures having the greatest impact on on an individual scale, HERE and the CSA Institute wanted to take stock of the French’s relationship with airplanes. They have just carried out a survey among the French on a possible restriction of the use of airplanes to fight against global warming and to anticipate the depletion of resources.

A majority of French people ready to reduce their use of planes

Questioned by the CSA institute, 64% of French people aged 18 and over say they are in favor of reducing their use of airplanes in the medium term for environmental reasons (including 40% completely in favor). This share peaks at 72% if we focus on those under 35, and at 77% of French people taking a plane (17% of French people surveyed do not take a plane).

“ We are certainly declarative, these intentions must pass the test of facts declares Philippine van TICHELEN, General Director of HERE . But these figures show a very clear majority in favor of a reduction in the use of the plane. Ecological awareness is obvious, in a context where natural disasters worsened by global warming (extreme heatwaves, fires, etc.) themselves have repercussions on the vacation plans of the French in Greece and Italy in the very short term… Added to this is also the impact of inflation and the increase in the cost of air travel, which in the medium term is directing the French towards other modes of transport for their travel.

In this sense, the proposal by engineer Jean-Marc JANCOVICI to limit each person to 4 plane journeys over a lifetime is rather well received since 41% of French people say they are in favor.

We once again find a higher score among those under 35 (48%).

“While the 18-35 year old period is often a period conducive to discoveries, to first initiatory journeys, this age group turns out to be the quickest to engage in a very reasoned use of the plane: close to the half of them are in favor of JM Jancovici’s proposal, and this rises to 59% of 18-24 year olds , specifies Philippine van TICHELEN. »

Conversely, Ile-de-France residents are less favourable: only 33% (and 43% would not be at all favourable). “A surprising figure, which could be explained by the fact that Ile-de-France residents are more often required to take the plane for their professional trips, and therefore that the remaining share for their personal trips on the quota of 4 flights per life per person would be even more reduced, argues Philippine van TICHELEN. »

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 2, 2023 12:16 pm

The top 4 destinations in case of air flight quotas

If this measure were adopted, the French would mainly turn to 4 countries on 3 different continents: the United States (31%), Canada (14%), Japan (13%) and Australia (11%).

The American continent (North, central and south) would be the most popular (cited 71% in total of 4 flights), then Europe (49%) and Asia (39%). “ The TOP4 destinations in the event of implementation of this quota unsurprisingly give pride of place to continental countries.

The United States, Canada, Japan and Australia have in common that they are immense countries, with an exceptional natural and cultural heritage, requiring several weeks, even months, to have a sufficiently complete overview. Here we very clearly see the trend of traveling less, further and longer, explains Philippine van TICHELEN.

In terms of organization, travelers would spread their 4 flights over a fairly concentrated period of around 5 years for 24% of them, 40% over a period of 10/15 years , and 28% over a period of 20/ 30 years. Logically, those aged 65 and over would organize their flights in a more concentrated manner over 5 years (41%).

This study was conducted by the CSA Institute and carried out online, on July 18, 2023, with a representative sample of 1,010 French people aged 18 and over, constituted using the quota method.

Roger
Roger
October 2, 2023 12:19 pm

41% OF FRENCH IN FAVOR OF THE PROPOSAL OF A QUOTA OF 4 FLIGHTS PER PERSON IN A LIFETIME, ADVANCED BY ENGINEER JEAN-MARC JANCOVICI

The fewer French flying the better, surely?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 2, 2023 12:20 pm

Keep in mind these figures are from the AEC and provisional figures closely matching this for the House and for Senate first preferences were available that night after polls closed

There’s yer problem.

Get some TRUTH stats from The Daily Expose and Zeeee Media, and then get back to me.

Dot
Dot
October 2, 2023 12:22 pm

KD

The only places I see this nonsense posted are here and on the Speccie, I wonder which retard keeps on posting them and what their source is?

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