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H B Bear
H B Bear
October 3, 2023 6:24 pm

Barramundi is over-rated.

Reasonably easy to farm I believe. If you’re going to eat farmed fish there are worse options out there. In a hippy phase I had a look at an aquaponics set up but it all looked too hard. A mate has one apparently.

Indolent
Indolent
October 3, 2023 6:24 pm

Here’s the direct link to Tucker Carlson Ep. 27 with Victor Davis Hanson. It’s a not to miss one. The other one I liked was a repost by someone on YouTube.

<a href="https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1708986264588791862&quot;
Tucker Carlson
@TuckerCarlson
Ep. 27 Donald Trump appeared in court today, but it wasn’t a legal proceeding. It was a grotesque parody of the system our ancestors created. Victor Davis Hanson explains.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
October 3, 2023 6:24 pm

I’d prefer fresh flake over barramundi any day.

JC
JC
October 3, 2023 6:25 pm

Barramundi is over-rated.

No it isn’t, it’s worse. It’s crap.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 3, 2023 6:26 pm

As for the abomination that they call smoked salmon … desshpiccable!

Quite like smoked salmon, as in a bento box on rice, with soy sauce. Or a smoked salmon and gherkin sanga, with a bit of Tobasco for zest. I find fresh salmon a little too oily and heavy, but grilled with salt and pepper it’s not bad.

Then there’s how Mitt Romney eats salmon.

Mitt Romney roasted for bizarre way he eats salmon (15 Sep)

‘He didn’t especially like salmon, but found that if he put it on a hamburger bun and smothered it in ketchup, it made for a serviceable meal’

A very weird guy!

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 3, 2023 6:29 pm

Didn’t Romney stick his dog on the roof of his car? Def not Presidential material.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 3, 2023 6:32 pm

Net zero groceries.

Premier Chris Minns announces net zero freight policy on the Central Coast (Ncl local news, 3 Oct)

Transport was the focus for the New South Wales Premier – headed to the Central Coast today.

It came with a nod to a Berkeley Vale company leading the charge on electric vehicles… and a sweetener for freight companies to take up the technology.

If you see horses and carts delivering to Coles stores you will know why.

Indolent
Indolent
October 3, 2023 6:34 pm
Johnny Rotten
October 3, 2023 6:34 pm

Raising short term interest rates any higher will wreck the Economy.

Explain how given how much commercial and residential lending is originated in bonds which the vast majority of are foreign funded.

The reality is unless we engage in QE we really can’t alter the credit market in Australia significantly.

Funny how the Big 4 Banks keep putting up the variable rate of interest on those mortgages every time the RBA puts up the Cash Rate then. Maybe they are price gouging and keeping their margins high.

Buy Australian Bank Shares and reap those dividends with nice franking credits.

Top Ender
Top Ender
October 3, 2023 6:35 pm

A new military documentary…

Thanks frollicking – trying to blot out the memory as I type…

Salvatore, Iron Publican
October 3, 2023 6:36 pm

Barramundi is over-rated.

A phrase that reveals the speaker only thought they were eating barramundi.

Johnny Rotten
October 3, 2023 6:42 pm

And you can’t have a prosperous economy when the government is way overspending, raising tax rates, printing too much money, over regulating and restricting free trade. It just can’t be done.

– Arthur Laffer

calli
calli
October 3, 2023 6:42 pm

I have eaten wild caught barra, air freighted up to Goroka from the coast.

If fish was a steak, and a very good one, that was it. It came with crayfish, prawns and crabs. An exchange for broccoli, lettuce and beans, grown in the Highlands but hen’s teeth on the coast.

A worthy exchange!

Razey
Razey
October 3, 2023 6:44 pm

Victoria’s Vacant Residential Land Tax

So if you go travelling for 7 months you’ll be hit with 1% tax on the value of your house.

Sounds fair.

Cassie of Sydney
October 3, 2023 6:45 pm

I love to eat snapper, flathead, cod (when in UK), salmon and ocean trout.

Mum used to fry fish, and the only fish she used was flathead. Flathead, once cheap and plentiful, is now dear and scarce. I also love eating snapper. Fried fish, Jewish style, is always served cold. Quite scrumptious.

The best place to buy fish in Sydney is Faros Seafood in Marrickville. It’s where Mum, my sister and I go to buy fish. I highly recommend it, it’s much better than the fish markets at Pyrmont.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
October 3, 2023 6:47 pm

Pretty sure cheap Barra is Basa.

John
John
October 3, 2023 6:51 pm

Well, the referendum is over. I’ve voted I great big NO.

Did you write it legibly completely inside the box? Otherwise it may be informal.

Indolent
Indolent
October 3, 2023 6:51 pm
Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 3, 2023 6:53 pm

A phrase that reveals the speaker only thought they were eating barramundi.

Caught my own, ate them. They’re good, no doubt – but steaming piles of diarrhoea compared to the black jewy. Gez:

Pretty sure cheap Barra is Basa.

Yep. Sold as barra for the tourist market, and for other people who don’t know better. Shit.

Davey Boy
Davey Boy
October 3, 2023 6:55 pm

Day 1 of pre-poll – and the Yes side has been spotted being tricky at pre-poll sites – the colour of their signage is just like the AECs – what a coincidence.

https://www.aec.gov.au/media/2023/10-03.htm

Media advice: Purple campaign signage

Updated: 3 October 2023
The AEC today became aware of campaign signage outside of at least one early voting centre for the 2023 referendum that could potentially mislead voters about the source of a campaign message.

To be absolutely clear – the signs were erected by the Yes23 campaign, not the AEC. The signs featured the legislatively required authorisation statement. However, the signage prominently used white writing against a background that is a similar shade of purple to the AEC’s longstanding branding and were erected outside at least one early voting centre, in close proximity to the AEC’s ‘voting centre’ signage.

This combination of using purple and white colours in proximity to AEC signage could mislead a voter about the source of the signage, and by extension, the source of the message on the signage. Accordingly, when we were alerted to this signage the AEC requested the Yes23 campaign to rectify the situation by ensuring their signs are not placed in the proximity of AEC voting centre signs. The Yes23 campaign has agreed to comply with this request.

While the AEC has been clear over a number of years in communicating our preference that campaigners do not use the combination of colours purple and white in such a way that could be misleading, the AEC does not have any legal authority to prevent people from using particular colours. The AEC also does not have the legal authority – except in very limited circumstances – to prevent people from campaigning outside six metres from the entrance to a polling place. While AEC officers cannot remove signage that could be misleading regarding the source of the message, we expect our request to the authoriser of the signage to be complied with.

Requests from the AEC to campaigners to adjust or rectify concerns regarding signage outside of voting centres occurs frequently at every electoral event. The AEC’s experience is that, in the vast majority of cases, the authoriser of the signage complies with an AEC request.

Use of the colour purple on campaign signage has been the subject of a previous court judgement. This 2019 matter is summarised in a fact sheet on the AEC website.

https://www.aec.gov.au/FAQs/files/21-1579-factsheet-purple-signage-02.pdf

If you read this factsheet (linked) you can blame the SFLs for this one – the precedent was set in 2019, where the Liberal campaign in Chisolm (Victardia) had purple signs with Chinese writing – but the court (of disputed returns) ultimately decided that there was no statute or rule that said the use of the colour was illegal, however deceptive it might be.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 3, 2023 6:55 pm

I’ve voted I great big NO.

Did you write it legibly completely inside the box? Otherwise it may be informal.

In Sanskrit or Klingon. Nothing else will be accepted.
/s

calli
calli
October 3, 2023 6:56 pm

Pretty sure cheap Barra is Basa.

Yes. That’s what I suspect those “whiting” bites are. One hundred percent Belt and Road quality via the shaky isles.

Indolent
Indolent
October 3, 2023 6:59 pm

Tucker Carlson Ep. 27 is epic. It clearly states that America is undergoing a revolution. I just don’t see how it can be stopped.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 3, 2023 6:59 pm

Voted early, but not often today.
No.

It should be no with a smack on the end of elbows snout with a rolled up newspaper after I rub his nose in the mess he’s made.

Indolent
Indolent
October 3, 2023 7:00 pm
Davey Boy
Davey Boy
October 3, 2023 7:01 pm

Another observation from many local pre poll locations is that for every ‘No’ volunteer, there are about twenty ‘Yes’ volunteers.

calli
calli
October 3, 2023 7:05 pm

there are about twenty ‘Yes’ volunteers.

Awash with so much money (including ours), define “volunteer”.

Indolent
Indolent
October 3, 2023 7:06 pm
cohenite
October 3, 2023 7:06 pm

That fat bastard pearson is such a liar; now vomiting that his grandmas, both of them, lived to 102 years ; actually one died at 62; but also 3rd nations lived regularly to 100 and got letters from their aunties before the white idiots got here. In fact the average age of 3rd nations pre Cook was low 30s.

miltonf
miltonf
October 3, 2023 7:07 pm

It clearly states that America is undergoing a revolution. I just don’t see how it can be stopped.

Very 1917ish imo- the connivence of demonrat mayors in trashing their own cities. The Lubyanka stile imprisonment of dissenters. It just disgusts me with old poo poo pants- a life long cheat and parasite a successor to George Washington FMD.

John
John
October 3, 2023 7:07 pm

In Sanskrit or Klingon. Nothing else will be accepted.

How does one write “NO” in aboriginal?

Dragnet
Dragnet
October 3, 2023 7:08 pm

FMD this joint has been like Lord Of The Flies for the last 24 hours.
When’s Piggy going to be speared ?

Razey
Razey
October 3, 2023 7:08 pm

I’m voting Yes.

Dot
Dot
October 3, 2023 7:09 pm

Funny how the Big 4 Banks keep putting up the variable rate of interest on those mortgages every time the RBA puts up the Cash Rate then. Maybe they are price gouging and keeping their margins high.

Yes, right now.

That’s not always the case.

Have a look at June 2016 to April 2019.

The RBA cash rate was stable.

Mortgage rates moved upward, correlated and cointegrated to the US Federal funds rate, as did the 3 month bank bill swap rate, etc.

Cassie of Sydney
October 3, 2023 7:09 pm

I don’t know if I’d want the government to look after my child.

Amen! Words spoken by Dai Le tonight on Sharri Markson, independent member for Fowler. Can we have more men and women like Dai Le in parliament……please?

Indolent
Indolent
October 3, 2023 7:10 pm
calli
calli
October 3, 2023 7:13 pm

When’s Piggy going to be speared ?

Got a good recipe?

Dot
Dot
October 3, 2023 7:18 pm

Let me elaborate as to my post made at 7:09 PM.

1. From Jun 2016 to Jun 2018 for the variable mortgage rates moving up (not much though, especially for owner occupiers).

2. The actual data isn’t easy to obtain if you’re only looking at charts.

This wasn’t easy to find.

https://www.housingdata.gov.au/visualisation/financial-market/housing-loan-interest-rates

You can see over that period that variable rates went up.

“”The” mortgage rate” reported on by popular sites like trading economics is actually a 3 year fixed rate.

Dot
Dot
October 3, 2023 7:19 pm

Razey Avatar
Razey
Oct 3, 2023 7:08 PM
I’m voting Yes.

Glow harder.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
October 3, 2023 7:19 pm

Barramundi indisputably is a fine meat. Inexpertly cooked it may not seem to be. Therein may lie the root of many statements that Barramundi “isn’t all that good”.

Most fish is fantastic straight over the side of the boat & onto the stove. Most reef fish are very nice indeed. My father will eat nothing but Coral Trout, Red Emperor, & so on. Can’t recall him ever enthusing much about Barra, however he is downright scornful of cold water fish & flatly refuses to even entertain the idea of eating some.

This is of course most unfair. After a lifetime of eating reef fish, I had an opportunity to eat something out of the cold water of the south (SA caught)
Totally different to reef fish, & very bluddee nice.

Barramundi (just a perch or something really) has a reputation as the kind of eating fish – this reputation is not without good reason. Whether the title of #1 fish is deserved, that’s similar to a discussion about whether Grange Hermitage is superior to Hill of Grace.

Pogria
Pogria
October 3, 2023 7:29 pm

I had a very pleasant morning. I had to go into my little town to pay bills at the PO. Had a great chat with the ladies about the Voice scam. They are both extremely well informed and not a snowflakes they will be voting Yes.

I then went to the Rural Supplies place and was stoked to see a bowl of campaign pins with NO on them. Pinned one on my shirt so fast it raised a laugh. Had another good chat with the ladies and gents there about the screech. All NO voters. YAY!

There have been two yes placards stuck in windows on the main street, no more which was good to see. Thankfully the little Public School has not succumbed. There are many more NO placards as I drive around, including a large one in a paddock near the “Keep Transgrid off Our Farms”.

As I was driving home, a gentleman was standing on the tray of his LandCruiser stapling NO placards to a power pole. He had been working his way down the main drag. Blew the horn and gave him a cheer and a wave. Received a big thumbs up in return. Country people take no sh*t. 😀

Pogria
Pogria
October 3, 2023 7:41 pm

Arnold Schwarzenegger uses Conan The Barbarian sword to open the first box of copies of his new book Be Useful: Seven Tools for Life

I wonder if one of his “Tools” was used when he porked the middle-aged house keeper. LOL!!!

Cassie of Sydney
October 3, 2023 7:48 pm

Everything about Noel Pearson is contrived. He’s a ham actor.

Bushkid
Bushkid
October 3, 2023 7:51 pm

johanna
Oct 3, 2023 6:12 PM
Re fish:

Barramundi is over-rated.

Discuss.

Definitely not over-rated if it comes from the north of WA, wild caught. Same for the oysters up there. The very best of both that I’ve ever tasted came from a place up there.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 3, 2023 7:52 pm

Be Useful: Seven Tools for Life

Is he re-inventing himself as a sort of Jordan Peterson?

Will he explain the tendency to form hierarchies on some structure in the ancient brain of Krull?

Let’s be honest – he gave his only great insight into the human condition long ago:

(What is best in life): To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.

Indolent
Indolent
October 3, 2023 7:52 pm
Razey
Razey
October 3, 2023 7:54 pm

Dot
Oct 3, 2023 7:19 PM
Razey Avatar
Razey
Oct 3, 2023 7:08 PM
I’m voting Yes.

Glow harder.

Racist.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
October 3, 2023 7:56 pm

Purple People Misleader?
https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/voice-to-parliament/yes23-selling-purple-merchandise-ahead-of-voice-referendum-despite-australian-electoral-commission-warning-against-use-of-the-colour-after-2019-court-decision/news-story/b05f68ef032ddacb456d68d3e45b6940

The Australian Electoral Commission has said it does “not own purple”, as the Yes23 camp continue to sell Voice to Parliament merchandise with that shade after hours earlier being told to remove signage that could “potentially mislead” voters.

The photo is rather illustrative.

Email from Senator Babett today says:

Following the 2019 Federal Election, the Court of Disputed Returns examined the use of purple campaign signage similar to the brand style of the AEC in the Divisions of Chisholm and Kooyong. The court found the signs were likely to mislead or deceive a voter in relation to the casting of a vote, contravening Section 329 of the Commonwealth Electoral Act 1918 (the Electoral Act).

The AEC didn’t have to “own” the colour in 2019 for the material to be ruled misleading.
What else? Sue in court for voters being misled after the referendum is over??
Perhaps the AEC was told to be “colour blind” and took it too far.
The AEC now has worse optics than five dollar sunglasses.

Dot
Dot
October 3, 2023 7:57 pm

Take it easy Pogria, he married a Kennedy.

At least one child of his is free from the curse.

Dot
Dot
October 3, 2023 7:59 pm

It’s true, I hate races.

I much prefer field events, combat sports and team sports.

I can come at sailing and long distance running.

JC
JC
October 3, 2023 8:01 pm

There are open market operations but it doesn’t only trade FX.

So what you’re saying is that you’d allow the exchange rate to take the hit. Okay, but here’s the problem. The exchange rate isn’t as important to the economy as the interest rate. Of course the exchange rate is important, so don’t get me wrong, but the credit markets are far more so, and I don’t think it would be a good idea to try and stabilize the economy. I don’t think it can be done, and then there are the labor and goods & services markets to consider.

You have a far more stable situation with a gold peg, I think, not that I would advocate a peg.

You still haven’t answered the question, though. Let’s say we had COVID lockdowns mark 11. The economy is a mere skeleton, and everything is tanking. What would a fixed interest rate of 6% do to the system?

If you want to peg the FX rate you can’t control the CB interest rate.

You’re right, I know. It’s one or the other. However, with a gold peg, interest rates would be more stable, no?

I’m suggesting as a thought experiment (sort of) that a completely endogenous CB rate isn’t reliant on a pegged FX rate. The benefit is it is around the long term mean and avoids excesses and poor credibility issues.

Okay. But in the past 15 years, we’ve seen some pretty significant downside dips in GDP. One time, through the GFC and then through COVID lockdowns. The mean may look okay until you take into account the significant drop in nominal GDP over short periods of time. The natural rate moves too.

As for the credibility of an endogenous rate, that’s only real problem. In my ideal, if market cost of wholesale credit goes below 6%, then there is no CB lending. If that and retail rates go way above, it goes up and up. The FX rates will adjust either way.

The FX rate would certainly adjust, but like now, you need the central bank to maintain the o/n at its suggested peg.

If you’re arguing that CB policy should adjust minimum wages down to the market clearing rate, you’re going to have an even worse rear vision mirror problem.

I don’t see how you can essentially lock in a rate at any level without allowing labor markets to adjust one way or another. I don’t believe the exchange rate would be able to counteract the impact.

What if you set policy based on data vector X but the reservation wages exceed the minimum wage (vector X’)?

Example?

You could assume that MW growth is too high compared to prevailing MP. All you end up doing is push the reservation wage up again! This would make labour supply anaemic or prolong a post stimulus and inflation era of bottlenecks.

I can’t see how you can avoid it with a pegged interest rate.

JC
JC
October 3, 2023 8:04 pm

Cassie of Sydney
Oct 3, 2023 7:48 PM

Everything about Noel Pearson is contrived. He’s a ham actor.

He’s dreadful off-script. There’s are segments of him on Q&A from last night and his performance was terrible at times. No ability to answer and debate effectively. He’s actually useless other than grandstanding.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
October 3, 2023 8:05 pm

This was uploaded 2 hours ago, by the YES campaign.

Authorised by Dean Parkin, Australians for Indigenous Constitutional Recognition Ltd, Sydney

Anybody not got a problem with that advertising poster?

Salvatore, Iron Publican
October 3, 2023 8:07 pm

There’s are segments of him on Q&A from last night and his performance was terrible at times.

Thank you – you don’t have to attribute to me, as I was plagiarising ABC Q&A when I posted it.

bons
bons
October 3, 2023 8:08 pm

Victorians are getting it in the neck. I don’t care, except for one aspect. Their fuc*king around with ‘giggle’ socialism for decades has not only destroyed them, it is now destroying the rest of Australia.
Like arrogant Swedes, Vics played the schoolyard ‘look at us, look at us, we are so tolerant and progressive” game.
They even destroyed sport.
Now that shallow stupidity has killed them.
But it will kill my grandkids futrure as well.
I live in a Vic expat colony. They are scurring around like victims in a Sci Fy horror movie dodging phantoms who are sucking their life blood.
Good!

Crossie
Crossie
October 3, 2023 8:09 pm

Just saw Father Frank Brennan described on Credlin as a human rights lawyer. But isn’t he a priest? And why wouldn’t he be described as such?

miltonf
miltonf
October 3, 2023 8:09 pm

Like arrogant Swedes, Vics played the schoolyard ‘look at us, look at us, we are so tolerant and progressive” game.

which Vics?

miltonf
miltonf
October 3, 2023 8:10 pm

I live in a Vic expat colony. They are scurring around like victims in a Sci Fy horror movie dodging phantoms who are sucking their life blood.
Good!

get fuked

JC
JC
October 3, 2023 8:10 pm

Thank you – you don’t have to attribute to me, as I was plagiarising ABC Q&A when I posted it.

Why would I do that, when I get their feed on my twitter page?

By the way, your link doesn’t work, you genius. It’s a 404 error message, which means you screwed it up. Learn to code.

Indolent
Indolent
October 3, 2023 8:10 pm
Buccaneer
Buccaneer
October 3, 2023 8:15 pm

My take on raising interest rates is that it’s deliberately a blunt mechanism designed to reduce demand and make everyone more efficient, in a perfect world that means an incentive for government to ensure markets are efficient, not distorted. Leftits, simply don’t seem to care, they are quite happy for markets to fail, for populations to go hungry and broke, for people to lose their wealth, because that makes them dependent on government. They see it as a win/win, as long as a compliant media and unobservant population and feckless opposition all let them do it.

I’d add, that all the problems causing inflation can be slated to government distorting markets in one way or another. If all the markets are distorted by government, what hope interest rates will work when the government won’t change the distortions and no one will talk about it?

miltonf
miltonf
October 3, 2023 8:15 pm

Victorians are getting it in the neck. I don’t care, except for one aspect. Their fuc*king around with ‘giggle’ socialism for decades has not only destroyed them, it is now destroying the rest of Australia.
Like arrogant Swedes, Vics played the schoolyard ‘look at us, look at us, we are so tolerant and progressive” game.
They even destroyed sport.
Now that shallow stupidity has killed them.
But it will kill my grandkids futrure as well.
I live in a Vic expat colony. They are scurring around like victims in a Sci Fy horror movie dodging phantoms who are sucking their life blood.
Good!

You sound like a spiteful geriatric woman in a tizz

Salvatore, Iron Publican
October 3, 2023 8:16 pm

Why would I do that, when I get their feed on my twitter page?

Their ABC’s feed did not carry Noel Pearson’s train wreck on Q&A.

Roger
Roger
October 3, 2023 8:17 pm

Premier Chris Minns announces net zero freight policy on the Central Coast

So much for Minns being the sensible, pragmatic state premier.

Roger
Roger
October 3, 2023 8:19 pm

Meanwhile, in the UK, the Tories are discovering that every step back from Net Zero they take results in an increase in the polls.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
October 3, 2023 8:20 pm

Learn to code.

Phew, that’s it for me washing mold off the walls then. About time, I was getting rather knocked up.

(now investigating the mystery of the corrupted code)
Obviously the Yes23 campaign have sabotaged my link, in an effort to prevent their subterfuge being outed.

Stand by…..

Cassie of Sydney
October 3, 2023 8:22 pm

“The Australian Electoral Commission has said it does “not own purple””

This is the same AEC that launched a vindictive and very political legal case Craig Kelly over the font size Kelly used on his political advertising prior to the 2022 election.

Pogria
Pogria
October 3, 2023 8:22 pm


Dot
Oct 3, 2023 7:57 PM
Take it easy Pogria, he married a Kennedy.

At least one child of his is free from the curse.

Oh great! Cheese and cornichons all over the screen. Thanks Dot. heh.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
October 3, 2023 8:23 pm

The YES campaign uploaded this just over 2 hours ago.

Authorised by Dean Parkin, Australians for Indigenous Constitutional Recognition Ltd, Sydney

Voting law reform, NOW.

Cassie of Sydney
October 3, 2023 8:24 pm

“So much for Minns being the sensible, pragmatic state premier.”

No different to Dominic and Glad, but at least Minns made a decision to keep Erarong open.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 3, 2023 8:24 pm

JC

Oct 3, 2023 8:04 PM

Cassie of Sydney
Oct 3, 2023 7:48 PM

Everything about Noel Pearson is contrived. He’s a ham actor.

He’s dreadful off-script. There’s are segments of him on Q&A from last night and his performance was terrible at times.

I heard him on 3AW this morning.
Weird.
He tried to project this “Statesman With Gravitas” persona, but it just came across as some old codger who had got his Mogadon dosage mixed up.
He was desparately trying to sound conciliatory, but too often the mask dropped and snarling Noel got off the leash.

bons
bons
October 3, 2023 8:29 pm

I have asked Sharan Burrow to come around to be your therapy dog Miltonof.

Indolent
Indolent
October 3, 2023 8:29 pm
Indolent
Indolent
October 3, 2023 8:33 pm

Voting law reform, NOW.

I’m sure they’re trying to mislead, but the ballot paper has one box with the clear instruction to WRITE Yes or No.

Roger
Roger
October 3, 2023 8:33 pm

No different to Dominic and Glad, but at least Minns made a decision to keep Erarong open.

Yes, be thankful for small mercies.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 3, 2023 8:34 pm

Nobody is yet asking why Noel Pearson, the great peacemaker, why he’s been banned – by his own ‘people’ – from communities like Mapoon in FNWQ.

Or why Aurukun and surrounds have failed to benefit one single iota from the $550,000,000 Pearson got out of various Governments of the day, ostensibly for the purpose of making residents’ lives better.

Perhaps they would have been nice questions for Mr Mitchell to ask.

JC
JC
October 3, 2023 8:34 pm

BUC

My take on raising interest rates is that it’s deliberately a blunt mechanism designed to reduce demand and make everyone more efficient, in a perfect world that means an incentive for government to ensure markets are efficient, not distorted.

It has to be “blunt” in order to work its way through the economy. The only other alternative in trying to control prices would be price controls and that’s the Soviet model, which means feast of famine. Also, the financial markets the most efficient way of knowing what’s going on in the economy. We have nothing else really. The conduct of monetary policy isn’t just to reduce demand, it’s also used to raise demand by adjusting the cost of credit and indirectly the price of money. Basically, the central bank’s job is to maintain a stable nominal GDP.

Leftits, simply don’t seem to care, they are quite happy for markets to fail, for populations to go hungry and broke, for people to lose their wealth, because that makes them dependent on government. They see it as a win/win, as long as a compliant media and unobservant population and feckless opposition all let them do it.

Okay, but I don’t see monetary policy that way.

I’d add, that all the problems causing inflation can be slated to government distorting markets in one way or another.

Often times, but not always. How about demand and supply shocks for instance.

If all the markets are distorted by government, what hope interest rates will work when the government won’t change the distortions and no one will talk about it?

There is what called the natural rate of interest (look it up) that should tell you how distorted things at some point in time.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 3, 2023 8:35 pm

The AEC now has worse optics than five dollar sunglasses.

When you get prescription filled by the APS.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 3, 2023 8:40 pm

Perhaps they would have been nice questions for Mr Mitchell to ask.

Not likely.
Shit scared of being called waaaacist.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 3, 2023 8:42 pm

Like arrogant Swedes, Vics played the schoolyard ‘look at us, look at us, we are so tolerant and progressive” game

Previous attempts of this by certain (adopted) Quenthlanders, who simultaneously praised their (adopted) State as a Last Holdout led to immense hilarity when it turned out that the yappers’ own States were as bad – if not worse – than the one they were bagging.

Immense, immense, Biblical-scale hilarity.

Happy to engage in Round 2. There are millions of Victorians extremely unhappy with the current and previous states of affairs.

miltonf
miltonf
October 3, 2023 8:42 pm

High inflation is due to high energy costs not to mention gubmints spending money they don’t have. All thanks to pollimuppets and they pube pals.

cohenite
October 3, 2023 8:42 pm

Indolent
Oct 3, 2023 7:17 PM
Professor William Happer IPA lecture – The Crusade Against Carbon Dioxide – September 2023

Not one major media outlet even mentioned Happer, one of the world’s great scientists, was even in Australia.

Chris
Chris
October 3, 2023 8:44 pm

I just went and voted early. They didn’t ask a reason, just made sure which electorate I was in.

As I walked in there was a yesser handing out her crap, looked like a typical Greens supporter. I declined. Then a great-looking lady with long dark hair for the NO offered me a brochure. I said ‘No thanks, but you are doing a GOOD thing!’ She liked the affirmation.

miltonf
miltonf
October 3, 2023 8:45 pm

I have asked Sharan Burrow to come around to be your therapy dog Miltonof.

last time I checked Sally McManus came from Carlingford in Sydney.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 3, 2023 8:46 pm

Just watching a doco called “Foxcatcher”.
About John du Pont.
Dug up half his front paddock on his Noo Joisy farm trying to find the tunnels.
The tunnels being used by his enemies to infiltrate his house and hide in the walls.
Yeah.
Then he tore the walls apart.
This was 1988 so he wasn’t even buying coffees on the innernet.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 3, 2023 8:46 pm

Salvatore, Iron Publi

can
Oct 3, 2023 8:23 PM
The YES campaign uploaded this just over 2 hours ago.

Authorised by Dean Parkin, Australians for Indigenous Constitutional Recognition Ltd, Sydney

Voting law reform, NOW.

Is the yes campaign saying that the advice tendered in Canberra over at least the past 40 yeas=rs was useless? If so, why do they have many of those who tendered that advice (Pearson, Dodsons, and the rest of the urban “professional” aborigines) as their spokesthings?

Have they really thought that ad through?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 3, 2023 8:47 pm

Watching Summer Heights High on Focks.

Jonah from Tonga. One of the greats of our time.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 3, 2023 8:47 pm

Or why Aurukun and surrounds have failed to benefit one single iota from the $550,000,000 Pearson got out of various Governments of the day, ostensibly for the purpose of making residents’ lives better.

Jacinta Price is right on the money, calling for a commission of inquiry into the rivers of cash that flow into the Aboriginal industry.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
October 3, 2023 8:52 pm

Meanwhile, in the UK, the Tories are discovering that every step back from Net Zero they take results in an increase in the polls.

One wonders if this comes as a complete surprise.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 3, 2023 9:01 pm

I just went and voted early. They didn’t ask a reason, just made sure which electorate I was in.

Ditto, yesterday – never got asked a reason.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 3, 2023 9:03 pm

One wonders if this comes as a complete surprise.

For some, certainly.

JC
JC
October 3, 2023 9:03 pm

KD

Can you elaborate a little without putting the site in legal jeopardy?

Knuckle Dragger
Oct 3, 2023 8:34 PM
Nobody is yet asking why Noel Pearson, the great peacemaker, why he’s been banned – by his own ‘people’ – from communities like Mapoon in FNWQ.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 3, 2023 9:11 pm

JC – from the ABC, of all people:

Eight mayors in far north Queensland’s Cape York region have launched a scathing attack on Indigenous leader Noel Pearson, saying they want him less involved in their affairs.

In a joint statement, eight mayors including those from Aurukun, Mapoon, Lockhart River, Kowanyama, Aurukun, Napranum and the Northern Peninsula area, say they did not want Mr Pearson to have any more control over funding, policy or service delivery on Cape York.

And:

Napranum Mayor Philemon Mene says Mr Pearson never consulted local government leaders about the plan.

“Work with us, rather than trying to be the Mayor of Cape York,” he said.

Buccaneer
Buccaneer
October 3, 2023 9:15 pm

I’d add, that all the problems causing inflation can be slated to government distorting markets in one way or another.

Often times, but not always. How about demand and supply shocks for instance.

Perhaps I should have prefaced this with at the moment. As currently the shocks and failures seem to be all supply side and all the result of government intervention in one way or another.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
October 3, 2023 9:18 pm

I was hoping this STALKER would give AVI a slap, therefore, giving AVI the right slap him back at twice the force and drop the pr*ck.

Avi Yemini confronts STALKER and you won’t believe how it ends!

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 3, 2023 9:18 pm

More on Pearson – this time from the Guardian:

The upheaval around a single primary school in Aurukun, Cape York, has evidently been a bewildering experience for Noel Pearson.

What began with an evacuation of teachers over safety concerns in the outside community escalated to the Queensland government contemplating a full takeover of the largest of Pearson’s “lighthouse schools”.

The government review followed community calls for Pearson’s Cape York Aboriginal Australian Academy (CYAAA) to be stripped of the school contract and the scrapping of the centrepiece of the education platform – the rigidly scripted, US-imported, highly controversial literacy and numeracy program called Direct Instruction.

And:

A takeover of Aurukun would have represented the first significant public policy defeat for the Indigenous leader, a rollback of a key plank of his welfare reform agenda, which has spawned its own sizeable private bureaucracy.

Pearson, putting himself in the shoes of Jesus Christ about to face his betrayers by invoking the “gloom of the Garden of Gethsemane”, began launching salvos against an array of critics.

Some of these flew wide of the mark.

Pearson got millions to ‘revolutionise’ schooling:

One school staffer said it was “completely Americanised”, with students learning more about US states and holidays such as Independence Day and Thanksgiving than Australia.

Another said: “The language program is totally out of context, it doesn’t relate to Aurukun. Pictures and stories are about America. The information doesn’t spark motivation.”

And:

What is remarkable about the review is the recurring voices critical of a narrow focus on DI – not from those Pearson has characterised as political enemies of an important education reform – but from within his very own school and the community that wants to reconnect with it.

The actual schools within the actual communities want Pearson and his shit ideas, and his own bureaucracy out.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
October 3, 2023 9:22 pm

Troubling.

Rukshan:

3 Oct 2023 #voteoften
The AEC recently replied to a post on X, stating, “If someone votes at two different polling places within their electorate and places their formal vote in the ballot box at each polling place, their vote is counted.”

“We cannot remove the vote from the count because, due to the secrecy of the ballot, we have no way of knowing which ballot paper belongs to which person. However, the number of double votes received is incredibly low, and usually related to mental health or age.”

This response came in reaction to a post by a Labor MP who “mistakenly” used #voteoften in a post on X encouraging people to vote Yes.

Consequently, this has sparked a considerable amount of online discussion and raised concerns about the entire electoral process. However, is this simply another instance of the AEC being ineffective and inconsistent in their communication on online platforms?

Should they even maintain a presence on social media if they cannot provide clear communication and ensure the removal of personal/political bias from their employees who are replying to posts?

For extra context on the multiple voting the AEC has also said that “The instances of multiple marks have never been of a significant volume and never more than the margin in an election. We have electronic certified lists across all pre-polls and continuing to many on-the-day polling places with real-time mark-off of the roll.”

AEC Says You Can Vote Twice?

JC
JC
October 3, 2023 9:23 pm

Thanks KD
So dolt took US school programs and didn’t even bother to fit them for local context. Just useless.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 3, 2023 9:28 pm

So dolt took US school programs and didn’t even bother to fit them for local context

Was allowed to by various Last Holdout governments, and to the tune of over half a billion dollars and while building his own empire with that cash, yes.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 3, 2023 9:32 pm

Previous attempts of this by certain (adopted) Quenthlanders, who simultaneously praised their (adopted) State as a Last Holdout led to immense hilarity when it turned out that the yappers’ own States were as bad – if not worse – than the one they were bagging.

Mmmyes.
And whilst they were bagging out “Mexicans” their Plump Premier was playing them on a break, as cynical Queensssland politicians as far back as Joh Bejelke Petersen have done.
Pulling up the drawbridge to Fortress Queensssland.
Miss Piggy only pulled stunts like “Queensssland hospitals are for Queenssslanders” because she knew the low info rednecks love that shit.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
October 3, 2023 9:41 pm

The scene at the church @0:36 was very satisfying.

Steve Inman:

When Citizens Fight Back

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 3, 2023 9:46 pm

The unintended consequences of da Voice campaign is the light it has shone on the torrent of cash which flow into the Aboriginal industry, but which disappear into the desert sands before it reaches it’s destination.
Hilarious that the fact-checkers keep shouting “No, no! It’s not $40 billion being pissed away. It’s only $10 billion.”
The average Joe only hears, “They don’t know how much it is, but it is a shitload. It isn’t achieving jack-shit, and it will triple if Yes gets up.”

Cassie of Sydney
October 3, 2023 9:48 pm

Noel Pearson fancies himself as OZ version of Moses, Martin Luther King, Malcom X, and Nelson Mandela, a man who will lead his people to the promised land, except he has no idea what that promised land is. But the grim reality is that Noel Pearson is more like our very own Al Sharpton, and just like Sharpton, engages in vicious race baiting and grifting.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
October 3, 2023 9:55 pm

One school staffer said it was “completely Americanised”, with students learning more about US states and holidays such as Independence Day and Thanksgiving than Australia.

The “school staffer” may not realise what they’ve let slip there. Oops!

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 3, 2023 10:00 pm

Noel Pearson doesn’t have much of an idea on anything except himself.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 3, 2023 10:00 pm

Noél Pearson.
Égoïste Sans Frontières.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 3, 2023 10:02 pm

a man who will lead his people to the promised land

The promised land.
It’s not actually in Noosa, but you can see it from Hastings St.

The Beer whisperer
The Beer whisperer
October 3, 2023 10:05 pm

Anyone have Dover’s contact details? I have an article to publish. A few key aspects of the voice don’t appear to have been adequately addressed in the media or anywhere else.

It’s even worse than you think.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
October 3, 2023 10:05 pm

Mr. Pearson may be quite unpopular with some folk on Cape York, & there may be valid reason for some of this disdain.
Mr. Pearson may have some .. ahem.. accountancy & audit issues to iron out.

It may however be a bridge too far to assume his education initiative hasn’t improved scholastic achievement on Cape York.

Mark from Melbourne
Mark from Melbourne
October 3, 2023 10:13 pm

Well, they’ve got the swinging vote now…

Key voice architects say the ­referendum campaign has tapped into “a deep well of historical ­racism” and warn that Indigenous people will need to work “very closely” with politicians in the event of a Yes vote to ensure voice legislation “realises their ambitions for greater control over their lives”.

In an article for world-leading medical journal The Lancet, Marcia Langton and Tom Calma join fellow Indigenous academics Ian Anderson, Yin Paradies and Ray Lovett in cautioning a No vote will have a “profoundly negative effect” on Indigenous Australians who have worked on reconciliation for nearly two decades.

Obviously, in that event, blame needs to be apportioned…

It comes as leading Yes campaigner Noel Pearson said a failed referendum would be “a disaster for all of us” and there was no plan B to improve the lives of Indigenous Australians, while voice supporter Frank Brennan said the poll had “created a hell of a mess” and sent race relations in Australia backwards.

With less than two weeks until polling day and early voting open across the country, Anthony ­Albanese on Tuesday declared the referendum was “certainly win­nable” and undecided voters he had spoken to thought the question they would be asked on constitutional recognition through a voice was “fair enough”.

But they were really trying to be nice…

Acknowledging that the voice was a compromise position for ­Indigenous leaders after “many conservative politicians would not accept the inclusion of rights in the Australian Constitution”, Professors Anderson, Paradies, Langton, Lovett and Calma say there are early signs the referendum process is causing Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people higher levels of racism.

What, exactly, does “causing Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people higher levels of racism” mean?

Lots more absolute hilarity at the Oz

JC
JC
October 3, 2023 10:18 pm

You’re an educator now, drilller. How quaint.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
October 3, 2023 10:28 pm

You’re an educator now, drilller. How quaint.

Run it through a plagiarising tool, you’ll know where I got it from. 🙂
Shouldn’t take you long.

A dummy like me wouldn’t have an original idea, or any idea at all really. You just know I had to copy it from somewhere.

I’m no God Oracle, alas. I’m so dumb I … er.. now I forget what I was gonna say. 🙂

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 3, 2023 10:30 pm

Langton, Elbow and the rest of the ” if you don’t vote yes you are racist” mongs are setting the ground to really scar Aboriginals who accept their brain dead logic.

Instead of having the humility and intelligence to accept there are valid arguments against voting yes to a blank cheque in perpetuity they hit the big red racist button harder.

Then Abbos wake up and if they accept the mongoloid narrative 60% of Aussies want them beaten down.

What a mob of irresponsible assholes.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 3, 2023 10:30 pm

In an article for world- mis leading medical journal The Lancet,

Remember the survey showing 25 billion Iraqis had died in the invasion of Iraq?

I would not be surprised if they ‘calculate’ with their characteristic vigour that Aborigines have been here since the Permian and that there was a population of 100 million before bloody whitey turned up.

MatrixTransform
October 3, 2023 10:31 pm

I’m no God Oracle, alas. I’m so dumb

me too

JC
JC
October 3, 2023 10:34 pm

Quite the contrary driller, you’re a super man.

Tree looping expert
Pescatarian expert
Education expert
Protector of the mentally feeble.

Thank God, we now heard from an expert about the education outcomes in the Cape.

JC
JC
October 3, 2023 10:35 pm

Oh here’s Chauncey Gardner for the evening entertainment.

duncanm
duncanm
October 3, 2023 10:41 pm

Salvatore, Iron Publican
Oct 3, 2023 10:03 AM
Duncanm: The indigenous bloke who on ABC Q&A last night took on Noel Pearson, is Wesley Aird, Director of the Centre for Indigenous Training, in Brisbane.

cheers.

MatrixTransform
October 3, 2023 10:45 pm

yet another battery fire

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
October 3, 2023 10:46 pm
John H.
John H.
October 3, 2023 10:46 pm

The Battle of Kapyong (Korean War)

Brutal. When Australian, Canadian, and New Zealand forces prevented another assault on Seoul.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 3, 2023 10:47 pm

…cautioning a No vote will have a “profoundly negative effect” on Indigenous Australians who have worked on reconciliation for nearly two decades.

A little shiftiness there, I think. It reads (well to me at least) as if Indigenous Australians as a group have been working on what they are pretending will be reconciliation. It should read “… on those indigenous Australians…”

Those Aborigines have grown fat like maggots on a gangrenous wound, and as long as they can keep themselves in place to gnaw into the warm rotting flesh and slurp on the sweet black ooze they will keep this wound as gangrenous as they can.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
October 3, 2023 10:53 pm

A little shiftiness there, I think. It reads (well to me at least) as if Indigenous Australians as a group have been working on what they are pretending will be reconciliation. It should read “… on those indigenous Australians…”

NO prevailing at referendum will be quite a blow to some of the more strident First Nations urgers for Yes.

Quite a blow to their projected incomes, status, clout, conditions & benefits.

MatrixTransform
October 3, 2023 10:58 pm

still digging JC?

JC
JC
October 3, 2023 11:05 pm

Mother L

I’d ponder that a NO vote could make the fat cats even fatter, as the drumbeat of how everything was stolen and more comes after the ref funeral. The Liars could very well try to compensate for the loss by throwing even more money their way. W shouldn’t underestimate the vindictiveness from that side. The crazies are going to go even crazier.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
October 3, 2023 11:28 pm

Beery-
it’s a proton mail address. Looky at the “contact” on the header.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
October 3, 2023 11:53 pm
Gabor
Gabor
October 3, 2023 11:54 pm

Mother Lode
Oct 3, 2023 10:47 PM

Indigenous Australians as a group have been working on what they are pretending will be reconciliation.

Empty words, like the “Sorry”.

No amount of money will help those in camps around towns with nothing to do or not taking part in education.

I know it has been said many times by others.
Giving out more free money will only worsen their situation by allowing more grog to flow.
Plus 90% of that free money will end up in the pockets of admin fat cats in the cities anyway.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
October 3, 2023 11:54 pm

Mighty quiet on the prairie tonight..
…has there been some smiting?

Salvatore, Iron Publican
October 3, 2023 11:58 pm

…has there been some smiting?

I’m as yet unsmited.
Naturally this status is subject to change at 25 milliseconds notice.

Alamak!
October 3, 2023 11:59 pm

Mighty quiet on the prairie tonight..
…has there been some smiting?

people ran out of cheap insults, p’raps?

MatrixTransform
October 4, 2023 12:40 am

people ran out of cheap insults

pro-rated apparently

i suspect you can pay per insult

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
October 4, 2023 5:51 am

Everything about Noel Pearson is contrived. He’s a ham actor.

His biography should be titled: The Bully in the Pork Pie Hat.

Sadly, he’s just a mendacious grifter – might not have started out that way but that’s where he’s ended up. He was educated by the Baptists, he’s smart and talks a good game, has been courted by both Labor and Liberal to take a seat in Parliament, his hubristic pride and malice is most unbecoming and boy does it show.

Robert Sewell
October 4, 2023 5:58 am

MatrixTransform

Oct 3, 2023 10:45 PM
yet another battery fire

I don’t watch Cadogan any more – he was promoting flashlights the other day. These were being flogged off for hundreds of dollars but available on ebay for $10 – $40.
There’s his integrity blown out his arse in one easy video.

MatrixTransform
October 4, 2023 7:16 am

he was promoting flashlights the other day

eBay or Cadogan,

don’t leave any of them plugged into the charger 24/7

Louis Litt
Louis Litt
October 4, 2023 7:50 am

Dot/jC
Re the QAntas and Emirates airlines debate.
If Emirates and Other middle eastern airlines are receiving subsidies for fuel from the royal families – this is distortion which does not reflect reality.
Over time the price will increase due to lack of competition.
As this is a subsidy I would be charging Emirates extra to land here to make up the fuel discount.
This is similar to de industrialisation but this is not due to the price of labour but materials.
Western airlines will have to lobby for this additional tax when Middle Eastern Airlines land in their airports.
Your thoughts.

The Beer whisperer
The Beer whisperer
October 4, 2023 12:08 pm

it’s a proton mail address. Looky at the “contact” on the header.

Thanks, Wally. Not the first time I was stupid yesterday.

Razey
Razey
October 4, 2023 7:21 pm

Jorge
Oct 4, 2023 6:42 PM
Kim Beasley outside a polling station today:

“I don’t know who my ancestors were 700,000 years ago but I can tell you one thing: they were black.”

Oh touché old Kimmie boy, since no-one toils in the sun anymore, in 700,000 years everyone will be white!

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