Open Thread – Wed 4 Oct 2023
1,988 responses to “Open Thread – Wed 4 Oct 2023”
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Just been checking TheirABC’s mea culpa page.
Transparency being key, it is buried. You need to intuit that it is under the Editorial Policies link, which is in tiny print at the bottom of the Just In page.
Here is the link.
What is remarkable is how few errors this media behemoth makes, according to itself. If you look at the dates, maybe three or four a month. Considering the vast output across TV, radio and online, this is unbelievably excellent, in both senses of the word ‘unbelievably’.
Take, for example, the latest admission of fallibility.
Same sex marriage postal survey
News: An online story published on 25 September has been updated to change a reference to the same-sex marriage plebiscite to a postal survey.That’s all she wrote. There you go. All fixed.
They are openly taking the piss.
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One went straight into the ladies’ lounge, another had his red trouser braces snapped and burst into tears, and then the barmaid chased all three of them out.
And here is another one for you sheep shagger.
A Scotsman goes into the Ladies Toilet.
And the ladies said – Get the fark out of here.
And he said – I apologise as I thought that the sign said Laddies. Boom, Boom.
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The interesting thing about The Amazing Luigi statement is that he’s trying to tie the two goups – Islam and Aboriginal – together.
Is this a version of an Islamic Voice being floated?The left’s game of intersectionality can make for some very strange bedfellows.
The weirdest one I can think of is the group “Gays For a Free Palestine;” ironically, where gays would be most unwelcome, and treated with the most extreme prejudice.
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calli
Oct 6, 2023 5:38 PMAnd NO down thumbing from me.
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In “something’s got to give” news…
Local councils in SE QLD are warning they can’t manage projected population growth, with one calculating they would have to see 100 new houses built every week for the next twenty-five years to accommodate the growth.
The population of Greater Brisbane (presently 2.5m) is projected to grow by 2 million by 2046.
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I know that it is early Rabz, but I do like this song –
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First responders are apparently meant to do on the spot psychiatric diagnoses:
Looking back on her early 20s, Carissa Wright describes her episodes of borderline personality disorder (BPD) at that time as “rough and isolating”.
Warning: This article contains discussions of suicide.
The 33-year-old peer support worker from Perth recalled she would have intense emotional swings, often swamped by outburst of distress, sometimes with suicidal ideation.
During this time, Carissa often interacted with mental health emergency first responders: triple zero and mental health hotline callers, police, paramedics, and staff at the emergency department.
But often, instead of finding them helpful, Carissa would feel more devastated.
‘Peer support worker?’ OMG. I suppose taxpayers are the mugs, as usual.
Anyway, while I regard all psychiatric diagnoses as dubious, as they seem to be in a cul de sac of competing theologies, BPD (if it exists) includes attention-seeking and manipulative behaviour as primary symptoms. If someone’s life work is perfecting this, how on earth is your average copper, ambo, nurse or doctor supposed to diagnose it at first contact?
Seems more like yet another excuse for bad behaviour being mooted as desirable public policy.
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Trump endorses Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH) for House Speaker
Greatest trolling in history! RINOs will be having coronaries in Congress.
Trump To Endorse Jordan For Speaker (6 Oct)
Update (2320ET): After teasing himself for Speaker of the House following Rep. Kevin McCarthy’s extremely short tenure, former President Donald Trump will endorse Rep. Jim Jordan’s bid.
“Just had a great conversation with President Trump about the Speaker’s race,” Rep. Troy Nehls (R-TX) posted on X, adding “He is endorsing Jim Jordan, and I believe Congress should listen to the leader of our party. I fully support Jim Jordan for Speaker of the House.”
All that’s needed is for Gaetz to endorse him too, and they’ll all suddenly disappear up their own rectums with a small despairing pop.
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do you people have comprehension problems?
Not many people here. But Tennis Elbow does. He doesn’t know what comprehension is.
As he was too busy fighting (s)’Torries’ in his sad dreamtime and spitting and slobbering over everyone elshe’, splurt’, splurt’.
Game over and welcome to the real Country.
It’s called Australia you Farking Dip Shite.
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Bruce O Newk here’s Jacinta Price’s article:
Anthony Albanese’s only legacy will be overseeing the most divisive referendum in Australian history.
There is no question this vote has been the most divisive ever. The only question is, will the Prime Minister take responsibility for it or will he look for someone to blame?
Will he take responsibility for putting up a detail-less proposal and hoping it would get through on the vibe?
Will he take responsibility for the fearmongering, the “if not now, when?” approach that tried to guilt Australians into voting Yes?
Will he take responsibility for the emotional blackmail, the claims of the “hand of friendship” that has been “offered in love” that Australians wouldn’t refuse?
For all the worn-out talking points and heavy media bias, it is the Yes campaign that has used fear, emotional blackmail, and guilt to try to force the Voice on to Australians.
I am confident Australians have seen through it and will say No.
As we get closer to referendum day, I am increasingly asked “what does October 15 look like? What’s next?”
Since the historic referendum in 1967, our country has continually grown to be more accepting, genuinely harmonious and extraordinarily generous but much of that work has been undone as Australians have been pitted against each other. On October 15, we will need to begin the work to reunite Australia and that will require action from all of us. The past few months have shown me that there is no shortage of goodwill. Australians have displayed an overwhelming desire for more to be done to support and help our most marginalised, no matter their background.
There are many who have believed the lies that this is our last chance to help the most disadvantaged Australians, who wear a guilt they never earned, who feel a pressure they don’t deserve and project that on to other Australians.
Advocates of the Yes campaign have propagated this idea, pitching the Voice as the last hope and anything else just “more of the same”.
We need to be clear to everyone, this Voice is not our last hope.
We need to assure those who passionately advocate for more to be done that more can be done, right now, without the Voice.
The Voice groups Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people together based on nothing more than their heritage but real change comes from focusing on need, not race.
Real change comes from shifting our focus to individuals and the most marginalised communities – no matter the background of the people who live there – rather than creating an entity that couldn’t possibly speak for all Indigenous Australians.
Real change comes from a thorough examination of what we’ve done, ensuring transparency and accountability, finding out where taxpayer money is being used effectively and where it isn’t, and refocusing our efforts on the solutions that are working.
Real change is 11 democratically elected Indigenous members of the federal parliament, ensuring transparency and accountability, holding to account those who have band been entrusted with this work and reallocating resources to where they’re most needed and going to be most effective. While a Yes vote means gridlock, bureaucracy and enshrined division will forever prevail, a No vote is a demand for something more, something better, a demand for real change.
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Warren Mundine and Vicki Grieves-Williams:
The ancient rock central to the lives of the local Anangu, the Yankunytjatjara and Pitjantjatjara people, the traditional landowners of Uluru-Kata Tjuta National Park, is called by them Uluru. A curious fact is that Uluru is mostly hidden from view. It is like a land iceberg with a gigantic 2.5km of its mass underground.
For five years, Australians have known the “Uluru Statement from the Heart” as 439 words commemorated on a canvas surrounded by signatures and artwork.
But these 439 words are the tip of a gigantic iceberg. The breadth of which cannot be understood without a detailed reading of the record, the 14th and final Regional Dialogue on constitutional recognition at which those 439 words were issued.
This record was released by the National Indigenous Australians Agency under the label “Document 14”.
The demands of the 14th Regional Dialogue are not simply the 439 words. This is now very clear, despite the protestations of those who would rather Document 14 (and the 13 before it) had never seen the light of day.
It exists as the expression of the will of those who remained in the meeting. Some were so disheartened they left and sat outside with traditional owners earlier denied entry.
This is important because we’re told the Statement has come from Australia’s nearly one million Indigenous people. In truth it’s the demands of fewer than 250 hand-picked individuals.
Document 14 spells out in unambiguous detail what the 439 words on the canvas are about and what they are requesting, including the Voice and what is to come after it.
And the demands of this so-called modest request are not modest at all.
Document 14 is steeped in grievance and victimhood. History is misrepresented, written to make Australians feel shame.
And culture is misappropriated, including in the use of the word “Uluru” against the wishes of its traditional owners.
The 14th Dialogue did not arrive at a place that contemplates reconciliation at all but a future of separateness and division, with a Makarrata Commission to speak for all traditional owners and settle their agreements with governments.
This is not our culture. In our cultures, only countrymen and women can speak for country.
Document 14 uses the expression “First Nations” around 60 times, always in the plural because it depicts them as one homogenous, pan-Indigenous group. We are not.
The Oxford Dictionary defines a “nation” as “a large body of people united by common descent, history, culture or language, inhabiting a particular state or territory”.
The word derives from the Latin word “to be born”. When the British first came to this continent there were hundreds of such groups. These are Australia’s first nations.
The word “sovereignty” is also repeated throughout the document. Nationhood and sovereignty aren’t the same.
Nationhood is about belonging and country, with or without legal and civic separateness and authority. There are stateless nations all over the world, not all desire sovereignty.
Document 14 calls for a First Nations sovereignty standing apart from, and in opposition to, Australian sovereignty. How is this possible?
A sovereign state has the ultimate and highest authority over its land and seas. Is Australia to be divided into several hundred sovereign states with only traditional owners participating in their governance?
This would leave 25 million or so others disenfranchised in their own country. Will these sovereign states take on the myriad of government responsibilities and functions, including raising taxes to fund them and armies to defend them?
Of course not.
Document 14 imagines Australia will continue, as well as its constitution, but with a constitutionally embedded Indigenous Voice as the fourth arm of government able to make representations to two of the other three.
The Voice is to pave the way for a Makarrata Commission, to whom power will be devolved to settle agreements between all Australian governments and First Nations and to supervise truth-telling about history.
It will be the overlord of traditional owner autonomy, including native title, the overlord of sovereignty and the arbiter of truth.
The core of Australia’s first nations are our kinship systems: rules that underpin all relationships and social organisation, that define each person’s role, rights and responsibilities to kin and country and how they must interact or not interact with each other (which forces people to tread carefully around relationships and to nurture them).
You cannot understand Aboriginal cultures without understanding our kinship systems. Yet the word “kinship” appears not even once in the Uluru Statement, not in the 439 words and not in Document 14.
Under our kinship systems, the universe – which is everything that is known – is divided into classifications called moieties. And everything must be classified.
So when a newcomer enters a community, they’re given a designation which in turn gives them a place and kin, regardless of their origins. Under our cultures, to co-exist in the same community and on the same country we must be part of the same universe.
Document 14 and the 439 word canvas through which it has been “pitched to the Australian people” is a metaphorical declaration of war on modern Australia.
The Voice is the trojan horse through which the attackers, hidden in its belly, will penetrate.
So it’s critical to us that the Voice is resoundingly defeated in the referendum.
What comes after that is more critical.
Thanks to this exercise of “reconciliation”, Australia stands more divided and wounded than it has for some time.
The overwhelming majority of Australians want Indigenous Australians to thrive. They have embraced the dismantling of segregation regimes and discriminatory laws of the past and take no satisfaction in the wrongdoings of history and want Australia to move on together as a united and reconciled people.
And we cannot be truly reconciled until the scourge of disadvantage that affects some Indigenous Australians is ended.
To achieve this we need laser focus on four areas.
Firstly, accountability: where is funding going, what is it being used for and what, if any, outcomes have those who received it actually achieved?
Secondly, education, including kids going to school.
Thirdly, economic participation: jobs, business creation and home ownership.
Fourthly, social change: safe communities and no more turning a blind eye to, or acquiescing to, violence, abuse and destructive behaviour.
These solutions are proven and they’re not complicated ideas at all. But they require courage and determination to implement, something no government or bureaucracy has ever had enough of, or managed to sustain, for long enough.
The Voice is a lesson that there’s no magical wand and pursuing one is a folly and distraction that take us backwards. We hope it’s not a lesson that Australia, and Aboriginal people, are forced to learn the hard way after October 14.
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Thanks BB – She writes really well! Not much substantial policywise but her comment that 11 of her people already represent them in Canberra is good. I second her observation about “gridlock, bureaucracy and enshrined division”. Streets ahead of Albo’s waffle.
I would like to hear from Mal Brough, who tried to fix the problems and was castigated by all the chardonnay sippers for it. Probably a good idea to keep his head down through this referendum though. But he really did try, unlike anyone else in the portfolio.
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The Voice groups Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people together based on nothing more than their heritage but real change comes from focusing on need, not race.
There is not one person who has ever explained what the Voice is.
However, Jacinta Price has explained what it isn’t.
Game Over.
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Yes Bruce was it under Brough that ATSIC was shut down?
I can’t remember BB, but Howard gave him the job to fix the really nasty stuff that was going on, and the Left went nuts. Then when Howard lost Macklin got the ministry and immediately went back to the old peonage system. And here we still are.
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Tell Hairy to hire some sherpas.
lol Sancho. I will definitely not be going on any Himalayan excursions now.
Dr. Faustus and Calli, luckily I am fairly active and my lungs are sound, so I don’t really have any breathing issues, mainly it’s dizziness. As dizziness can be caused by a lot of other things, such as stress or viral infections especially of the middle ear, I’m open re diagnosis, but it does seem responsive to resting now in a lower altitude. I’ve been OK in high altitudes before (Colorado in 2018), but not in recent years, so I can only put this down to the changes altitude can produce when older and having moderate high blood pressure and hiking up to a higher point post gondola, without Sherpas notwithstanding. 🙂
Lesson definitely learned.
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Dems must be serious about ridding themselves of the Bidens for the next election if that one got out. Cruelty to dogs would be one of the worst things to be accused of in modern America. Being a serial sexual predator gets a pass however.
Asking for a friend; but what if the accusations are one and the same?
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True too Rosie that it’s always good these days to keep the medical insurance primed.
Going to a doc right now though seems rather unnecessary as symptoms have subsided and they’d probably want to do time-consuming tests which I will get later if this recurs.
We leave Salzburg today, heading briefly into Germany.
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There is not one person who has ever explained what the Voice is.
And that is from the PM all the way down to the bottom.
So, what is it Tennis Elbow? A Political Stunt or a Cunning Stunt?
Baldrick had a Cunning Plan but you have never had a Plan. And that goes wiv’ the ‘Transishion’ with ‘Blackout Bowen’ and all the way to not get re-erected in 2025.
Fark wits all of you and maybe sheep shaggers as well. Baaaaaaaaaaah.
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Interesting; on The Five the outstanding Gutfeld says elections no longer matter and offers the election of the creepy old treasonous perve who offered moderation but in fact produced borderless chaos. For Gutfeld the demorat created problems can only be solved by war. Remarkable that a dominant personality can openly advocate civil war. He’s right of course.
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Chair at the time was Geoff Clark, who was often in the news for the wrong reasons
All the right reasons, I would contend.
The light, in the end, shone brightly on Mr Clark.
Echelons of Big Men of the Clark ilk are lined up, pockets open, hopeful that the Voice will get through and that their cups (and pockets) spilleth over.
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Johnny Rotten
Oct 6, 2023 5:26 PMObviously, JC was on the piss again. Or sitting on his ‘Quaintarse’ or on the ‘throne’.
No, him and his idiot mate have been sitting around the monster bong and Crème de menthe snifters all afternoon, chucking out burley for the stoush they want to create this evening.
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Administrative violence is the ammo drop the enemy keeps on giving us.
We’re using it at about 1% of potential output.
I’m talking intense background checks on Laetitia James, Fani Willis, FOI requests on the Secret Service (they’re not the target) during Biden’s term, this can get wild very quickly.
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Sheep shagger
Sorry guv’na, orright innit. There are no sheep in the vast Northern Territory:
Sheep are prohibited animals in the NT due to the presence of blue tongue virus in the Top End and its potential impact on the livestock industry.
Also prohibited are part-time bovver boys. This occurred after the Great Kindergarten Massacre of 2005, when a bunch of pre-school children ambushed some skinny-jean-wearing, trouser-brace having loudmouth pseudo-Poms at a bus stop in Darwin and stole their Doc Martens for silly putty containers.
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Dems must be serious about ridding themselves of the Bidens for the next election if that one got out. Cruelty to dogs would be one of the worst things to be accused of in modern America. Being a serial sexual predator gets a pass however.
Remember how awful DemonRats said Romney was for carrying his dog in a proper carry box, but on the roof of his car? Not even an echo of that criticism now.
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I liked the constantly complaining English giraffe.
With bad teeth.
An English giraffe? LOL. You need to go to SpecSavers. There are no Giraffes that have ever spoken English that I know of.
Just like the knuckle draggers trying to walk up straight and even grunt. Well maybe they can only grunt.
And I have never seen so much bad teeth as I have seen here, Just look at Tennis Elbow. FFS. And he spits when he tries to talk. Has he always been like that? Maybe like sleazy Joe Biden as well.
Sheep shagger, Please keep up the good work. The ewes just love you. Baaaaaaaaaah
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Tom, while you’re here…
I’m glad you no longer post Rowe, but this is a new low for the unutterable turd.
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Knuckle Dragger
Oct 6, 2023 7:08 PM
Chair at the time was Geoff Clark, who was often in the news for the wrong reasons
All the right reasons, I would contend.
The light, in the end, shone brightly on Mr Clark.
Echelons of Big Men of the Clark ilk are lined up, pockets open, hopeful that the Voice will get through and that their cups (and pockets) spilleth over.
Not forgotten by some.
Hence the short sharp reply to the Yessir running his engagement spiel after golf today.
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According to the latest Yes TV ad, which just appeared while I was watching Bargain Hunt, the Voice will remedy higher than average indigenous infant mortality rates, higher than average unemployment, and lower than average life expectancy.
In opposition, I contend that only assimilation into the mainstream of society can achieve this outcome.
It’s a no brainer.
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Lizard People shut down WA’s timber industry… and then build the biggest timber dogbox evah because carbon capture something something sustainability.
Dixon said the timber in the project would … be shipped from Europe in empty iron ore ships returning to WA.
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The interesting thing about The Amazing Luigi statement is that he’s trying to tie the two goups – Islam and Aboriginal – together.
An old acquaintace of mine – Ambrose Golden Brown – from Wreck Bay in the Jervis Bay Territory, looked much more like an Afghan than an Aboriginal. Like travelling salesmen everywhere, they got around.
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Farmer Gez
Oct 6, 2023 8:02 PM
Good news on the Daylesford sixty million Powerball winner.
A retired married woman who plans to donate big sums to charities that are dear to her heart and helping disadvantaged kids.“This prize will help a lot of people out.
“It’s my main goal.”Uplifting stuff.
I just Love it. And the Gov’ment could never do that. Not ever.
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https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2023/10/well-said-this-cartoon-is-atrocious.html
The Fin Review, for chuck’s steak. Disgusting, disgraceful and shameful.
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Given the general direction of society things to stock up on:
• Ivermectin 18mg – 7 compounded capsules
• Amoxicillin-Clavulanate (generic Augmentin) 875/125 mg – 28 tablets
• Azithromycin (generic Z-Pak) 250 mg – 12 tablets
• Doxycycline Hyclate 100 mg – 60 capsules
• Metronidazole (generic Flagyl) 500 mg – 30 tablets
• Trimethoprim-Sulfamethoxazole (generic Bactrim) 800/160 mg – 28 tablets
• Fluconazole (generic Diflucan) 150 mg – 2 tablets
• Ondansetron (generic Zofran) 4mg – 6 tabletsThe Wellness Company Medical Emergency Kit has medicines that treat:
• Anthrax
• Bacterial Vaginosis
• Bite Wounds
• Bronchitis
• Chlamydia
• Clostridioides difficile
• Colitis
• COVID – 19
• Gonorrhea
• Giardiasis
• Lice
• Nausea & Vomiting
• Pharyngitis
• Pinworms
• Plague (bioterror)
• Pneumonia
• Rickettsial Infections
• Scabies
• Shigella Infection
• Sinusitis
• Skin Infection
• Strep Throat
• Syphilis
• Tetanus
• Tick Exposure
• Tonsillitis
• Travelers Diarrhea
• Trichomoniasis
• Tularemia (bioterror)
• Urinary Tract Infection
• Vaginal Candidiasis
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OK I’m gonna have to tee off on this one.
World’s tallest wooden building to be built in Perth after developers win approval
Developers say South Perth’s C6 building will be made up of 42% timber and be carbon negative
42% timber does not make something wooden.
Western Australia is set to become home to the world’s tallest timber building, a “revolutionary” 50-storey hybrid design reaching a height of 191.2 metres.
I expect that record-smashing height to be reviewed.
Timber will make up 42% of South Perth’s C6 building, including the tower’s beams, floor panels, studs, joinery and linings.
Oh righto. Window dressing, then.
Come to think of windows- lotsa glass and not a lot of eaves in the artist’s impression. Heating and cooling all those international visa sequesterers will be carbon emission offset, I assume?
The Grange Development project at 6 Charles Street will include more than 200 apartments and was approved by Perth’s Metro Inner-South Joint Development Assessment Panel on Thursday. The developers say it will be carbon negative, storing more carbon than it uses and will combine lightweight, durable, renewable glued laminated timber and cross-laminated timber with lower amounts of steel and concrete than conventional construction methods.
Lower amounts of debbil debbil metal than conventional. Woop.
Timber is a core component of houses, as well as low-rise apartments and townhouse developments, making it a significant cost in construction.
As significant a cost amount as the buried bloodletting for approvals and licensing?
It will also be taller than Atlassian’s hybrid timber headquarters, currently under construction in central Sydney, which will be 180 metres high. The world’s tallest timber building, Ascent in Wisconsin, US, stands at 86.6 metres with 25 storeys.
Gotta keep Cannon-Brookes in the news.
Architect and principal of Fraser and Partners, Reade Dixon, said the project, which does not yet have a construction timeframe, is revolutionary in an industry that hasn’t changed much in its approach to commercial buildings over the past 70 years.
Laminated timber. Apply the physics. Woop.
AI could not name a man more strongly destined to become an architect than Reade Dixon.
The building’s developers claim that the 7,400 cubic metres of timber consumed by C6 could be regrown in just 59 minutes from one sustainably farmed forestry region.
The f*ck? Regrown? It’s grown in the first place, why make a dog and pony show about re-growing?
“C6 will consume approximately 580 pine trees sourced from sustainably managed and farmed forests,” the project’s website states. “We can’t grow concrete.”
I wonder if they had workshopped C4 as a possible name for a combustible high-rise before Ricke Ardonne said “we gotta get those numbers up, it’s too close to the bone…”
C6 will house edible and floral gardens on its rooftop.
And like McDonald’s Salad Bar, I’m sure it will be cherished. And feed all the residents. And be carbon neutral. And stuff. Biodiversity, that’s it.
Dixon said the timber in the project would either come from Australia’s largest mass timber producer, XLam, in Albury, NSW, or be shipped from Europe in empty iron ore ships returning to WA.
The irony, it burns like C4.
The director of the University of Wollongong’s Sustainable Buildings Research Centre, Timothy McCarthy, said the developer’s claims do not include end-of-life carbon costs of timber.
So close to net zero deliverance, the professor rolls the ring of power in his spindly hands…
“Currently, the end of life scenario for timber is landfill – people are working on getting this changed but the IPCC [Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change] only considers permanent sequestration for materials, and timber eventually rots or burns, returning its CO2 to the atmosphere,” he said.
Gotta keep yer blood-funnel in the main vein, IPCC. Because it’s only sustainable if you’re a parasite, forever.
While the trees used in the design come from fully sustainable sources, [yeah: trees] McCarthy noted only 40% of a tree ends up as timber – the rest is ploughed back into the land or made into mulch, while some goes towards paper making.
Prof has been brainstorming. Or maybe just googling.
Although the ambitious design was a “tough task”, he praised the project’s approach.
“[C6’s] ambitions are to be lauded and if it can deliver that sustainability over the full life of the building, we are changing the playing field, particularly in WA, where the climate is very harsh,” he said.
Honestly, where is the climate not harsh? Martha’s Vineyard, the Whitsundays and Cyprus, as far as I can tell. Ferkin academics, get out of your air-conditioned labs once in a while.
Fraser and Partners will open-source publish all technical materials from the project. The aim is to encourage more mass timber architecture in the built environment in response to the climate crisis, said Dixon.
*clutches award to shallow chest* “If I can inspire more people to reach for Gaia’s dreams…”
“Our great hope is that it challenges the industry to do future projects better,” he said.
Construction accounts for 11% of global carbon emissions, while cement alone is responsible for 8% of all carbon emissions. In 2020, WA generated 81.7m tonnes of CO2, or 16% of Australia’s emissions.
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Johnny Rotten
Oct 6, 2023 8:05 PM
Wally Dalí
Oct 6, 2023 8:00 PMSo true. This was neva the cleva country. Only the Lucky Country.
Don’t forget the rest of the quote: “A lucky country run by second rate people who share its luck.”
Although “second rate” seems to be a charitable estimate these days.
C’mon mUnty, you know you want to give this the thumb down.
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I have possibly mentioned before being shocked when walking off a flight in Paris and spying Clark and his goons sitting in the First Class cave casting sneering FU glares at the proles as they filed off.
They were wearing croc tooth hat bands which was quite a trick for a bunch of Victorians.
Until then, I had no idea that these creeps had access to unlimited money and used it for their personal gratification in the absolute knowledge that they would not be challenged.
It was during the UN Kyoto coup and Clark and his goons extracted themselves from Pigalle for long enough to be all over the adoring Euro media to define the hellish Australian apartheid.
They had some videos of bull catching and brumby shooting that were, apparently, to be considered as metaphors for our treatment of Aboriginals.
I actually copped some serious stick at work for a few weeks. No sense trying to explain to Europeans that these guys were nothing more than the World’s most cosseted mysogynist crime gang.
A few years later I saw him in my favourite sandwich shop in the 15th. Surprisingly for me, I controlled the emotions and satisfied myself with a simple and erudite “fu*kwit”. -
Not being one of those people who puts up every one of their favourites for other people to obsequiously marvel over I dare impose upon you all…
Gerry Rafferty’s Baker Street.
As a kid in year 8 I loved this song – being cranked out of a tiny kitchen radio which our very normal suburban ears somehow heard the same way as 15 channel Hi-Fi, particularly the key changes from verse to chorus!
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Wally, great commentary.
Found the prototype for the big wooden tower proposed for Perth.
Wondering how a wooden structure of that size could ever get insured? Its hot enough in WA summers for wooden power poles to burst into flames …
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Brian Eno a.k.a. Brian Peter George St John le Baptiste de la Salle Eno
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Sheesh. Sky News is being swamped with Yes23 ads.
These people are so stupid they think all they have to do is flood their opponents with your propaganda and whatever you’re promoting is magically accepted by the dumb bogans in voterland.
No wonder most of them don’t have real jobs — not even in politics.
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Gerry Rafferty’s Baker Street.
Here’s the thing…
The sax player came up with the riff that made an otherwise bland song a hit.
Yet at the time he was only paid the hourly rate of a studio musician.
Did he ever press for song writer’s royalties? I don’t know.
Until Procul Harem’s organist won his case in the House for Lord’s for the riff to A Whiter Shade of Pale being worth a song writer’s credit, such claims were hard to win.
Perhaps Bach’s estate should have got a portion of that settlement though. 😀
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Mother Lode
Oct 6, 2023 8:39 PM
Not being one of those people who puts up every one of their favourites for other people to obsequiously marvel over I dare impose upon you all…Gerry Rafferty’s Baker Street.
There is something about the English language and singing and music, It works, And no better with this. Hats Off.
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cohenite
Oct 6, 2023 8:46 PM
Sebastian Pierpoint Ravenscroft.
That’s not bad. Edgar Allen Poe is up there; and the Romantic poets were well named:
John Keats, Percy Bysshe Shelley, Alfred Lord Tennyson, Samuel Taylor Coleridge, Lord Byron and William Blake.I have a weakness for three names seeing as I have four to contend with.
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It was during the UN Kyoto coup and Clark and his goons extracted themselves from Pigalle for long enough to be all over the adoring Euro media to define the hellish Australian apartheid.
Would that be the kind of apartheid that gives a racial minority Constitutional superiority over the majority? Nor real self-aware?
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Tom
Oct 6, 2023 8:50 PM
Sheesh. Sky News is being swamped with Yes23 ads.These people are so stupid they think all they have to do is flood their opponents with your propaganda and whatever you’re promoting is magically accepted by the dumb bogans in voterland.
I think this is easy money for Sky, they play the ads while most, if not all, of their audiences ignore them or deride them. Any lefties who watch Sky would vote Yes anyway and therefore also ignore the ads.
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For a bit of dumb, light humour…Ghostbusters
Seriously glorious. Don’t cross the streams! Speaking of dumb, light humour…my reading this evening is Bob’s Saucer Repair, which has had me in tears of laughter. Starts off at a thousand miles an hour and just keeps on getting better.
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The sax player came up with the riff that made an otherwise bland song a hit.
I saw Al Stewart at the Royal Albert Hall in London in 2013. He told the story of Year of the Cat which was a hit from a similar time as Baker Street. He said the producer (Alan Parsons) said the song needed a saxophone solo. What to do? They were recording in Abbey Road and someone said a bloke lived a few streets away. The bloke named Phil Kenzie dragged himself away from the tele went to the studio and nailed a great improvised saxophone solo in two takes. I don’t really like the sax but it works so well on Baker Street and Year of the Cat. Kenzie played the solo live at the concert in 2013 using the same saxophone.
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Indigenous voice to parliament won’t fix crisis in Northern Territory, say John Howard and Tony Abbott
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By dennis shanahan
9:03PM October 6, 2023
No CommentsJohn Howard and Tony Abbott have declared the Northern Territory is a failed state because of its inability to provide basic services to remote communities, including education, and believe a voice to parliament will not improve practical outcomes for Indigenous people in central Australia.
The former Liberal prime ministers, who implemented the Coalition’s 2007 intervention into the Northern Territory, which included grog bans and placing military personnel in some remote communities, said little had changed for Indigenous Australians in the 15 years since the Coalition government’s action.
Mr Howard said changes to the Constitution to include an Indigenous voice to parliament and executive government would be tied up for years would not do anything to address the problems facing Aboriginal children in the Northern Territory.
Read NextMr Abbott said a Yes vote for the voice would only “entrench Indigenous separatism” that had not helped disadvantaged communities.
“I think that it entrenches race in the Constitution in a very damaging and destructive way,” Mr Abbott said in an interview for an Australians for a Constitutional Monarchy conference to be aired on Monday.
“I think it would gum up our system of government even further. I think it would reinforce the separatism that’s at the heart of Indigenous disadvantage. So I really do hope that we say a resounding no to this divisive voice.”
Mr Howard – defending his government’s decision to launch the Northern Territory Response to combat child sex abuse, which was heavily criticised – said it was necessary the Northern Territory government had failed.
“The intervention was a recognition that the Northern Territory government had completely failed in its responsibilities and it doesn’t appear as if a lot has changed over the 15 years that have gone by,” Mr Howard said in a presentation for the Australians for a Constitutional Monarchy conference.
“And, I think what emerged from the events in the Territory was a further indictment of the inability, the failure of the Northern Territory government to provide the basic services.
“You can make all sorts of changes to the Constitution but unless you have a police force, you have medical services and you have an education system that is up to the task of helping the disadvantaged, then you’re going to have a failure of government.
“And that’s what’s happened in the Northern Territory.”
Mr Abbott, in response to revelations in The Australian about failures within the NT education system said central Australia resembled a “failed state administratively” and the education of Indigenous children in remote communities was a chronic failure.
“Central Australia basically resembles a failed state,” Mr Abbott said in an interview with The Weekend Australian.
“Education delivery is a huge recurring problem because of a chronic failure of administration in central Australia.
“Part of the problem is that there are no people with authority who are on the spot, people who can make decisions and are living in the communities. Too many agencies and departments work in silos separated from each other and are only there in the communities a few times.”
The most authoritative representative body for Aboriginal people in central Australia has called on the Albanese government to intervene immediately to fix the Territory’s schools funding crisis. The Central Land Council’s 90 elected delegates, who represent 24,000 Indigenous people from dozens of communities, decided on Thursday to ask the commonwealth to force the NT government to deal with its bloated bureaucracy and start funding its schools properly.
The Australian’s NT Schools in Crisis series has revealed a shortfall of $214.8m a year for Territory schools, which disproportionately affects the country’s most disadvantaged students under an attendance-based funding model that does not operate anywhere else in the country.
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Speaking of names, no one here apparently remembers the name of Johann Gambolputty de von Ausfern-schplenden-schlitter-crasscrenbon-fried-digger-dingle-dangle-dongle-dungle-burstein-von-knacker-thrasher-apple-banger-horowitz-ticolensic-grander-knotty-spelltinkle-grandlich-grumblemeyer-spelterwasser-kurstlich-himbleeisen-bahnwagen-gutenabend-bitte-ein-nürnburger-bratwustle-gerspurten-mitzweimache-luber-hundsfut-gumberaber-shönendanker-kalbsfleisch-mittler-aucher von Hautkopft of Ulm.
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Joe Aston – the man has made his mark.
His ability to effortlessly denounce the tall poppies (real or imagined in their lunchtimes) has set him apart from just about every other alleged “journalist” in the braindead ozzie lamestream meeja. That he purveyed his work denouncing pollies and corporate spivs in our own legendary anti-business daily made it even more delicious.
His takedowns of some of the ridiculous pompous sanctimonious corrupt and quite frankly preposterous narcissists that are insultingly held up to us as some sort of role models or ideals to aspire to will become the stuff of legend. The man never boasted about purveying quality journalism (i.e. not “j’ism”) he just went out there out and did it.
Full steam ahead and damn the defamation suits.
Salute, Squire. Epic work. We need some more and now more than ever.
Do not allow yourself to be muzzled by baubles and bimbettes.
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Andre
4 hours ago
Whatever the failings of the NT school system the answer cannot simply be putting more teachers in remote centres to stay idle when students do not turn up. The locals did not regularly send their children to these schools when they were fully staffed so what makes anyone think they will suddenly start attending if that policy is returned? The problems are deeper and require much more intervention that simply spending more on teachers.How do you deal with parents who won’t send their children to school, for fear of “losing their culture?”
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Luigi the Munificent* is trying to tie the two groups – islam and aboriginal together – Is this a version of an islamic screeech being floated?
Vile cynical gutter communist politics – trying to unite the two most obnoxious tribes of insoluble inbred imbeciles against the mainstream.
Never forget, collectivism cannot exist without many, many enemies, real or imagined.
Divide and Conquer.
Four Legs Good
Two Legs Bad*With OPM
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This is beyond arrogance it scary. You know conversations and planning are happening among the ‘elite.’
This goes against the ethos of America. The Establishment is losing in the arena of ideas despite control all levers of influence. Are re-education camps next?
This could end in bloodshed.
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Real Mac Report
@RealMacReportHannity: “Do you believe that Anthony Fauci belongs in jail?”
Sen. Rand Paul: “Without question..I think the book will go a long way to convincing the rest of America that this man was a traitor to his country.”
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Sky’s James Morrow has lost me.
He’s now just a Down Under Washington establishment stooge.
He might as well be barracking for the dumbocrat communists.
SadWhilst enjoying the televisual feast that is Outsiders* of a Sunday morning as one might do so, I’ve not noticed the hideously uglee bald headed flog that is the Morrow** denouncing the outsized Orange Person who possesses a matching house sized rear end, not to mention some of the most atrocious taste (or complete lack of it) in the history of humanity.
When one lurks in the swamp, there is no need to. 🙂
*How’s about that Persian Princess, Cats? Feisty.
** Son of Lance, one of Time Magazine‘s more notorious purveyors of quality journalism, as she was spoke … -
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I hear the sad news but life goes on – And a good laugh helps –
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Speaking of names, no one here apparently remembers
Also sadly forgotten, Andriantsimitoviaminandriandrazaka aka Andriantsimitoviaminiandriana Andriandrazaka, King of Avaradrano, Madagascar.
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Jonathon Rotten, you tasteless peasant.
A blonde, a brunette and a redhead stride into a mess hall … 🙂
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Spurgeon Monkfish III
Oct 6, 2023 11:28 PM
Jonathon Rotten, you tasteless peasant.And it is Johnny Rotten. Jonathon is an upper class pompous name. Get rid.
Really? So try this for size.
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I must say chaps, this Woild would not be a pleasant place without English Roses.
As for those Hollweird Hussies, we don’t need to give a little … 🙂
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Spurgeon Monkfish III
Oct 6, 2023 11:59 PM
I must say chaps, this Woild would not be a pleasant place without English Roses.Save it for Later …
As for those Hollweird Hussies, we don’t need to give a little … ?
You lot are far to young for me, Now this is real music –
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…Put ’em on an unused sheep transport ship with the Poms…
Dorpers vs bovver boys brick heads at 20 paces.
https://judgedredd.fandom.com/wiki/Mean_Angel
1, where he’s surly and disagreeable; 2, where he’s mean; 3, where he’s vicious; and 4, which is when he is brutal. On occasion, an extremely hard headbutt causes Mean Machine’s dial to get stuck on 4½, which causes him to go berserk, unable to stop headbutting anything he comes across. -
How can people make beautiful music like this and make war?
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Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Oct 6, 2023 9:58 PM
Andre
4 hours ago
Whatever the failings of the NT school system the answer cannot simply be putting more teachers in remote centres to stay idle when students do not turn up. The locals did not regularly send their children to these schools when they were fully staffed so what makes anyone think they will suddenly start attending if that policy is returned? The problems are deeper and require much more intervention that simply spending more on teachers.How do you deal with parents who won’t send their children to school, for fear of “losing their culture?”
Remind them that those aboriginal äctivists” who are most adamant that they should not “los[e] their culture” have themselves thoroughly assimilated into the broader culture.
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Mother Lode
Oct 6, 2023 8:39 PM
Not being one of those people who puts up every one of their favourites for other people to obsequiously marvel over I dare impose upon you all…
Gerry Rafferty’s Baker Street.
But here is a clip which captures the very remarkable saxophone without stifling the rest. Not as good as the original musically, but with a vibrancy of which the original might, I hope be, proud.https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=unR1mnlQ2aE
I normally don’t like live music, but this is the best rendition of Jerry Rafferty’s “Baker Street” I’ve ever heard. Marvellous!
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