Open Thread – Weekend 7 Oct 2023


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feelthebern
feelthebern
October 7, 2023 6:44 pm

The latest series of Archer is so stale.
It needs Mallory.
It would be like doing Parks & Rec with no Ron Swanson.

MatrixTransform
October 7, 2023 6:47 pm

Wotz a “progress claim (?)

something that a builder ignores for 3 to 9 months in the hope that they can fnck up your cash-flow so badly that they never have to actually pay you

Rabz
October 7, 2023 6:50 pm

Stumbled onto a recent headline from a UK paper: “Heat wave conditions, 28 degrees expected”

28 degrees? FFS. That’s a perfect day.

The Gerbil Broiling cult is becoming ever more unhinged …

Rabz
October 7, 2023 6:51 pm

It would be like doing Parks & Rec with no Miss Ludgate.

calli
calli
October 7, 2023 6:51 pm

Matrix, my definition of a progress claim is

something that a customer ignores for six to nine weeks in the hope that they can fnck up your cash-flow so badly that they never have to actually pay you

Currently have a couple of wealthy d*cks who are treating the New Broom like a bank. The usual excuse – money on deposit, have to wait until it matures.

calli
calli
October 7, 2023 6:53 pm

And never, ever work for government. Not unless you have pockets filled to exploding. They never pay on time.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 7, 2023 6:53 pm

Oh, and in case it was not resolved…

Obviously

Awe bleateth after lomb

is

Ewe bleats after lamb.

So. Lhouth?

Lhouth after calve, cu

Something a cow does.

Lhouth is ‘lows’ – an unfamiliar word perhaps as the onomatopoeiac ‘moo’ has taken over. Formally a cow lows, not moos. Just as mewing has been replaced by ‘meowing’. Cats mew, not meow.

So

Lhouth after calve, cu

becomes

Lows after calf, cow

Or more familiarly to us

Cow lows after calf.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 7, 2023 6:55 pm

Haaretz has a live thread on the Gaza thing.

Gaza Declares War | Surprise Infiltration, Massive Barrages Shock Israel; Several Killed, Hundreds Wounded, Unknown Number of Hostages (7 Oct)

I really can’t think why the Hamas bosses are doing this. The IDF is going to raze all their mansions to the ground.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 7, 2023 6:58 pm

The usual excuse – money on deposit, have to wait until it matures.

The arrogance of them saying that.

JC
JC
October 7, 2023 7:00 pm

Calli

Payment in 7 days or will institute legal proceedings and have the lawyer ready to do it. Then hit them for legal fees too.

Rabz
October 7, 2023 7:01 pm

Apologies Cats, looks like the protest songs thread is not going ahead … 😕

Salvatore, Iron Publican
October 7, 2023 7:02 pm

Okay, I’ve had enough for a while. Have now downloaded from social media more than 70 video clips, this will wash out to more than 50 unique video clips of Israel this morning.

From this it can be determined that Hamas have had a field day.

calli
calli
October 7, 2023 7:03 pm

JC it all takes time and effort. While you’re dealing with these time wasters, you could be making money. The CCT is a nightmare, when it finally gets there you’ve spent days on documentation and personal representation.

You know about opportunity cost. This all eats into it.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 7, 2023 7:03 pm

TD’s can be broken.
Failing that they’d have a line of credit somewhere.
Worst case, they can use their credit cards for at least some of it.

They are just being pricks.

JC
JC
October 7, 2023 7:09 pm

Calli

If it’s endemic to the business, you guys are in, get a good lawyer to be ready to send out letters of demand with the 7 day limit highlighting the potential penalty.

The idea that you have to wait for a time deposit maturity is deplorable. They can break the maturity of the time deposit at any time.

A speedy lawyer would get the money quickly.

Rabz
October 7, 2023 7:09 pm

opportunity cost

My next economics post.

The examples are infuriating. Like the imbeciles perpetrating them.

eric hinton
eric hinton
October 7, 2023 7:09 pm

Top work ML

moo (v.)
“to make the characteristic cry of a cow, to low,” 1540s, of imitative origin (compare Latin m?gire “to low, moo,” Lithuanian m?kiu “to bellow,” Middle High German m?hen “to low, bellow,” and see PIE root *gwou-). Related: Mooed; mooing. The noun “the low of a cow” is from 1789. Baby-talk moo-cow (n.) “a cow” is attested from 1812.

Crossie
Crossie
October 7, 2023 7:09 pm

I’m just watching James Morrow’s US Report and his editorial on the US Speaker being given the heave-ho. The man either understands nothing or is part of the swamp. This will make it hard for me to watch The Outsiders knowing that when he mouths some things he doesn’t really believe them. The Outsiders is far too valuable to be tainted by James Morrow.

Carpe Jugulum
Carpe Jugulum
October 7, 2023 7:12 pm

I found a video on you tube of old Rugby Union plays.

It was a bit deceptive by calling the players thugs/Goons.

This was old style Rugby, yes some dirty play. But fast moving, hard tackling and most obvious was how fast their hands were passing to keep the ball alive.

The teams mentioned used to be dominant, SA, Oz, The Pumas, France, England, Wales & Ireland, Jesus about halfway through the Kumuls and Rhodesia got a mention.

See this and then you can see the decline in the modern game.

Old School Thugby

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 7, 2023 7:12 pm

Apologies Cats, looks like the protest songs thread is not going ahead

Bummer, I was hoping for the Radio Show. I can’t think of any protest songs since my arc has been from alt-right to full on knuckle dragger. Never was a lefty, not even at uni. Ok yep now I can think of one I liked:

Cry Freedom (1987)

Hasn’t worked out well for them though. Beware what you think you want.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
October 7, 2023 7:13 pm

From the content of the video clips, it can be determined that Hamas have had a field day.

Important safety tip: Don’t be anywhere near a Hamas hideout, safe house, suspect headquarters, or anywhere those fellers hang out. The likelihood of incoming ballistics in the near future: 105% chance.

Rabz
October 7, 2023 7:15 pm

Crossie – I’ve usually thought that the Morrow was on target on most things and I can’t recall him badmouthing Fatty Trump – he’ll need to be on his guard tomorrow morning.

Any pro swampage and he gets denounced, incessantly.

That he’s a blad headed flog does not help. 😕

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
October 7, 2023 7:18 pm

Protest song thread????
Dammit that’s me all over.
I might email you via DB, Rabz, any content I pitch in would be best subbed at the start, I’m not much good at sitting on threads of an evening.

MatrixTransform
October 7, 2023 7:18 pm

my definition of a progress claim is

oh … I know

we normally don’t work for builders but sometimes can’t avoid it

had a very frank discussion over coffee with the one we are dealing with right now

I asked him where the hold-up was … is it you or the fckn Arabians?

he just stared into the long distance

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 7, 2023 7:18 pm

Apologies Cats, looks like the protest songs thread is not going ahead

I wouldn’t listen anyway.

In principle.

(Tell me, pleeeease, that I do not have to post ‘sarc’ tags.)

JMH
JMH
October 7, 2023 7:20 pm

Crossie
Oct 7, 2023 7:09 PM

I’m just watching James Morrow’s US Report and his editorial on the US Speaker being given the heave-ho. The man either understands nothing or is part of the swamp. This will make it hard for me to watch The Outsiders knowing that when he mouths some things he doesn’t really believe them. The Outsiders is far too valuable to be tainted by James Morrow.

I’m with you, Crossie. I saw the segment, was disgusted and quickly switched to another channel. I once thought Morrow had insight. Obviously not.

Rabz
October 7, 2023 7:24 pm

Tonee Yabbott – a bald headed flog, selling wars, door to door.

Try and convince me otherwise.

calli
calli
October 7, 2023 7:25 pm

Has the Prick with a Fork lost his fork?

Shame. I rather liked him.

JMH
JMH
October 7, 2023 7:27 pm

Has the Prick with a Fork lost his fork?

Long gone, I’d suspect, Calli.

JC
JC
October 7, 2023 7:29 pm

Lol.. I agree.

JMH
JMH
October 7, 2023 7:29 pm

Come to think of it, didn’t Prick with a Fork make the odd appearance on Sinc’s Cat – or am I thinking of another blog?

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 7, 2023 7:30 pm

With limited knowledge of the Hamas incursion into Israel (just had dinner) I will venture a guess with minimal knowledge.

Hamas thrives on Arab-Israeli resentment. They are not really ideologically driven people, but in the old climate, as much by the Arab states as anything, blindly homicidal lunatics were the perfect fit for Hamas leadership. Now the Arab states have changed their stance Hamas realises their support is threatened.

Provoking the Israelis into attacking Arabs could, they would hope, turn people against rapprochement and bring back the good old days of mindless slaughter.

calli
calli
October 7, 2023 7:35 pm

He was in the sidebar, JMH. His blog about dining.

He may have commented occasionally.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 7, 2023 7:36 pm

Hamas thrives on Arab-Israeli resentment.

The weird thing is they’ve announced this is all about defending the Al-Aqsa mosque. Which isn’t threatened by anyone, certainly not the Israelis who’ve been very careful to play a straight bat on it.

Salah Arouri, an exiled Hamas leader, said the operation was a response ‘to the crimes of the occupation.’

He said fighters were defending the Al-Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem and the thousands of Palestinian prisoners held by Israel.

Sounds very contrived. Go figure. Something is going on under the surface but I don’t know what it is.

MatrixTransform
October 7, 2023 7:38 pm

letting loose the Gargoyles will not work … it will just cause all Gargoyles everywhere to fly all at once

best solution when dealing with a room full of gunslingers … is to control the flow of bullets

… make of that what you will.

calli
calli
October 7, 2023 7:38 pm

Something is going on under the surface but I don’t know what it is.

I do. Implacable hatred and resentment fed from outside.

And, speaking of “outside”, all Israel has ever had to do is cut off power and water.

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
October 7, 2023 7:40 pm

If Israel fails to wipe Hamas of the face of the planet they deserve the next 100 years of sporadic attacks on their citizens.

JMH
JMH
October 7, 2023 7:43 pm

calli
Oct 7, 2023 7:35 PM

He was in the sidebar, JMH. His blog about dining.

He may have commented occasionally.

Thanks, Calli. If memory serves, it was either at Sinc’s or the great Prof. Bunyip’s site that I remember contributions from Prick.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 7, 2023 7:44 pm

I do. Implacable hatred and resentment fed from outside.

You breed a class of maniacs to do your fighting then, when the diplomatic situation changes, you are stuck with maniacs programmed for the ‘old’ way.

JMH
JMH
October 7, 2023 7:47 pm

best solution when dealing with a room full of gunslingers … is to control the flow of bullets

Spot on MT.

There is only so much fun one can have before becoming totally bored.

Crossie
Crossie
October 7, 2023 7:48 pm

Rabz
Oct 7, 2023 7:15 PM
Crossie – I’ve usually thought that the Morrow was on target on most things and I can’t recall him badmouthing Fatty Trump – he’ll need to be on his guard tomorrow morning.

He still does express some sound opinions but now I wonder whether he believes them or is simply reading what is written for him.

Crossie
Crossie
October 7, 2023 7:50 pm

With James Morrow it’s the inconsistencies that are startling.

JC
JC
October 7, 2023 7:50 pm

InteractivePolls
@IAPolls2022
? 2024 National Republican Primary

• Trump — 65% (+56)
• DeSantis — 9%
• Ramaswamy — 8%
• Haley — 5%
• Pence — 4%
• Christie — 3%
• Scott — 2%
• Burgum — 1%

The poll doesn’t surprise, but who the hell is Burgum?

Gilas
Gilas
October 7, 2023 7:51 pm

Repeat attendance at the same multi-culti, pre-poll booth in a deep Western Sydney Liars coven.
This time, a few NO spruikers are present, always outnumbered by the YES camp.. as well as the same corflutes put up earlier this week, which I honestly thought would have been vandalised or disappeared by now. Happy to have been wrong.
One of us, John, through personal initiative rather than central organizational brilliance, has taken on the thankless task of organising our group for next week, bringing badly needed NO pamphlets in Arabic, Chinese, Hindu, Turkish and Vietnamese, as well as caps, T-shirts, a table and refreshments.
Hopefully, any out-of-pocket expenses will be refunded.
What is also badly needed, and we didn’t have, is a simple, short summary of the main arguments in favour of NO, something that the YESsers have, meaning that they have a few simple paragraphs of feel-good BS which, as we all know, is juicy meat for many low-info punters.
As all such literature has to first be approved by the AEC, no breath-holding will be necessary.
One of us, a veteran of other political campaigns, as well as an esteemed Catallaxian, had the brilliant idea of holding a NO sign at a nearby street corner, next to a busy roundabout, something the YES camp saw, but didn’t copy ?too low brow?
While chatting, we had several cars honking their approval, as well as a much smaller number of the less enlightened giving us the bird, one even had the temerity to call us morons… we were both deeply distressed by this.. really!
Overall, even in deep Liars territory, support for NO appears to exceed that for YES, something that informal chatting with people in queues appears to confirm, even if only anecdotally. The friendly enthusiasm of those intending to vote NO was in marked contrast to some of the YESsers’ supercilious nodding and hand-waving.
A satisfying contrast.
Intending to stay a couple of hours, the whole day went past. A day well spent.

C.L.
C.L.
October 7, 2023 7:51 pm

I’m just watching James Morrow’s US Report and his editorial on the US Speaker being given the heave-ho. The man either understands nothing or is part of the swamp. This will make it hard for me to watch The Outsiders knowing that when he mouths some things he doesn’t really believe them. The Outsiders is far too valuable to be tainted by James Morrow.

I like Morrow but this was a very bad take by him.

Time and time again, the Sky crew falls in behind the old partisan view of contemporary politics. They still don’t get it. It’s no longer about a ‘side’ winning – it’s about the principle winning.

MatrixTransform
October 7, 2023 7:52 pm

Currently have a couple of wealthy d*cks …

I feel for youse

the numbers for you guys are about 50 to 100 times what ours are

calli
calli
October 7, 2023 7:52 pm

Gee, we’ve got some Hamas fanbois lurking.

Drop your flaccid downticks losers. Do your impotent worst.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 7, 2023 7:52 pm

At this rate, these attacks on Israel are on track to be the biggest in twenty something years.

MatrixTransform
October 7, 2023 7:57 pm

I only mentioned the Arab once

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 7, 2023 7:59 pm

At this rate, these attacks on Israel are on track to be the biggest in twenty something years.

I’m cynical – it it anything to do with the fact that it’s fifty years since the Yom Kippur war – which some of us thought was the end of the State of Israel?

rosie
rosie
October 7, 2023 8:00 pm
WolfmanOz
WolfmanOz
October 7, 2023 8:01 pm

Carpe Jugulum
Oct 7, 2023 7:12 PM

Great video Carpe . . . Brings back many memories of the fabulous teams and players from the 70s.

My all-time favourite was Gareth Edward’s and his try (That Try) is for me one of the great spine-tingling moments/plays in all of sport.

C.L.
C.L.
October 7, 2023 8:01 pm

Liz Storer is a bit shouty but I like that she is totally immovable on what she believes in. They tried to monster her about Dear Old Ukraine but she doubled down. Joe Hildebrand tried the old pox on both their houses the other night re the Voice but she wasn’t having that either.

——————————

Sounds very contrived. Go figure. Something is going on under the surface but I don’t know what it is.

What’s going on beneath the surface is Iran.

Also: America tied up in another dumb Vietnam + a demented US ‘President’ whose handlers (Barack & Co.) hate Israel.

If Trump was President, this would not have happened.

Crossie
Crossie
October 7, 2023 8:01 pm

Time and time again, the Sky crew falls in behind the old partisan view of contemporary politics. They still don’t get it. It’s no longer about a ‘side’ winning – it’s about the principle winning.

C.L., some very smart people here and in the US have not realised yet that the fall of McCarthy is a seismic shift in US politics and I doubt that things will ever be the same again. The whole point of the sacking was to change the direction and dynamics which means that things will hopefully turn for the better but it’s just as possible that the political climate gets worse.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
October 7, 2023 8:02 pm

Am unable to readily locate his source

Avi Yemini @OzraeliAvi
28m ?#BREAKING: The IDF confirms Hamas terrorists are in control of several Israeli communities
This has NEVER happened before.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 7, 2023 8:03 pm

I remember seeing footage years ago of Hamas loonies in a small truck with a couple of rockets or mortars in the back, dancing about with glee at the thought of slaughter.

The little truck drove off while they still danced and…and must have hit a pothole.

There could have been a mountain of Hamas sandwiches that day.

JC
JC
October 7, 2023 8:05 pm

CL

I’m honestly still trying to get my head around this McCarthy booting.

Every demon voted with 8 GOP to fire McCarthy. How is it good to be on the same side with the demons?

Trump raised the debt by almost US$7 billion, but according to the WSJ, Gaetz didn’t raise a peep during the four years and he’s now a deficit hawk?.

McCarthy was working on lowering the deficit by 30%, which with a hair thin majority is a big deal.

Now, both the right and left flanks of the GOP are aware they can remove a speaker with the help of all the demons. How is this a good thing?

How does any of this now strengthen the speaker?

Rabz
October 7, 2023 8:08 pm

Liz Storer is a bit shouty but I like that she is a brunette amazon goddess …

C.L.
C.L.
October 7, 2023 8:10 pm

Liz Storer is a bit shouty but I like that she is a brunette amazon goddess …

This also. 🙂

Rabz
October 7, 2023 8:10 pm

Let’s have some T ‘n’ A, Cats! 🙂

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 7, 2023 8:15 pm

If Liz Storer was in the US they would do more with her hair – bulk it up and style it more carefully around her face.

They seem happy to leave it a dead weight in her scalp in Australia.

Well, that is my sense of it.

cohenite
October 7, 2023 8:18 pm

Morrow with Trump is like Kenny with the screech; they both have a rancid blind spot which negates their otherwise sense on most other things.

JC
JC
October 7, 2023 8:19 pm

Kimberley is always good value.

WSJ opinion.

Gaetz & Co: A Tale as Old as Time
Kevin McCarthy falls as speaker thanks to an act of two-bit political hackery.
Kimberley A. Strassel

By Kimberley A. Strassel

Pundits are laboring mightily to imbue Speaker Kevin McCarthy’s ouster with historic or cultural significance, with references to “populism” and 1910 and the tea-party movement. If only it were so interesting, rather than one more Washington example of two-bit political hackery—a tale as old as time.

Give Florida Rep. Matt Gaetz and his crew of slang-whangers their due: They can spin with the best of them. There they nobly stood Tuesday on the House floor—side by side with Democrats—to explain that they alone were real conservatives; they alone cared about regular order and spending and the border; they alone had the courage to hold Mr. McCarthy to his promises. So slick was this performance that they alone were then able to march out of the chamber and raise millions of dollars off it.

That those claims are hokum is obvious to anyone who tuned in the past 11 months, rather than only for the final speechifying. It’s worse than hokum, given that many of the offenses the rebels cited as grounds for deposing Mr. McCarthy were of their own making. How dare Mr. McCarthy fail to pass all 12 House spending bills by Sept. 30? How dare he then go to Democrats to get the votes to keep the government open?

The insurgents engineered that outcome. Last November a newly elected GOP majority was raring to go to work on reform and oversight. It instead remained in paralysis—unable to elect committee chairmen, hire staff or make plans—all through November and December. Many of this week’s rebels—self-labeled even back then as the “Never Kevin” movement—refused to provide Mr. McCarthy the final speaker votes, instead throwing in behind a vanity run by Rep. Andy Biggs. They dragged out the process even after Congress convened in January, piling up demands and ultimately requiring 15 ballots to elect a speaker.

The same group then helped drag out internal negotiations over the GOP position on the debt limit, delaying Mr. McCarthy’s deal with the White House that ultimately led to top-line numbers for those 12 bills.

As work belatedly commenced on appropriations, the same group strung the bills out in committee and blocked them from the floor. In the weeks leading to the shutdown date, a handful of rebels—including Reps. Biggs, Ken Buck, Eli Crane and Matt Rosendale—tanked the Pentagon spending bill more than once. This week they complained that Mr. McCarthy hadn’t quickly passed the bills they held hostage.

The purpose of all this? Some Republicans noted that Mr. Gaetz’s antics were driven by his need for attention. Cameras. Reporters flocking. Invitations from TV bookers. All true, but even this observation doesn’t fully capture his self-interest.
Read More Potomac Watch

It’s impossible to separate Mr. Gaetz’s public grandstanding this week from his personal problem in the House Ethics Committee—especially given that he has admitted the tie. He has spent two years furious that Mr. McCarthy wouldn’t break the rules and somehow intervene to stop that probe into allegations of sexual misconduct and misuse of funds. More recently he has even claimed (without evidence) that Mr. McCarthy somehow inspired the probe. “I believe that Speaker McCarthy is trying to signal to the Ethics Committee to pursue me,” he said on Monday, even as he asked a credulous America to believe this open bitterness had nothing to do with his ensuing McCarthy takedown.

Mr. Gaetz and some of his fellow rebels were also using the moment for their ambitions to move up from the House. Mr. Gaetz is expected to run for Florida governor, and thanks to this week’s drama the donations are flowing. Mr. Rosendale is gunning for another run at a Montana Senate seat. His 2018 attempt was an acute embarrassment—he got thumped in a conservative state by Democrat Jon Tester—and is naturally facing headwinds against a second go. What better way to rouse the primary base, and hoover up money, than to pose as the conservative who slayed the “establishment”?

Rep. Nancy Mace’s South Carolina district is the subject of a Supreme Court gerrymandering case that could make her re-election even tougher. As the Journal recently reported: “She has indicated she’d be interested in statewide office in South Carolina and has been advised she has some work to do to win over the state’s conservative base.”

Spare a thought for all the poor souls who actually bought the noble line. It’s a testament to how frustrated Americans are by Washington’s dysfunction—how anxious they are to think someone in D.C. actually has their backs—that they were open to this playacting.

The sad truth is that Washington has always been a town divided between those who put in the work and those who preen. The pity is that more of those conservatives who really are toiling day in and out to notch real policy victories—senators, House Freedom Caucus members, activists—aren’t more willing to highlight the distinction. They are only undermining their own cause.

Write to [email protected].

cohenite
October 7, 2023 8:24 pm
Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 7, 2023 8:34 pm

these attacks on Israel are on track to be the biggest in twenty something years

The IDF has now declared Operation Swords of Iron.
They seem a bit pissed off with the Palis. Good.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 7, 2023 8:40 pm

feelthebern
Oct 7, 2023 7:03 PM
TD’s can be broken.

Breaking requires 30 (31?) days notice.

bons
bons
October 7, 2023 8:41 pm

Oh deary, deary, dear.
How will our Penny react to the Palistanian situation that she helped to create.
This would be the Penny who abused the UK for their colonial sins while forgetting to mention that her forebears colonised Malaya.
What a week to come. A voice disaster to cover up and then Albanese having to justify Labor support for Palestinians murdering Israeli kids.
Good times.

C.L.
C.L.
October 7, 2023 8:42 pm

Superyacht spotting in Monaco!

But are they happy?

Pogria
Pogria
October 7, 2023 8:54 pm

Morrow used to comment quite a lot at Tim Blair’s blog. He and Tim were mates. I seem to recall him commenting occasionally at Boy on a Bike’s blog also. Had some good comment runs about food at Boy’s blog.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 7, 2023 8:56 pm

Superyacht spotting in Monaco

Surely your man had the yacht show in the diary? Always fun even if you’re just kicking tyres.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 7, 2023 9:01 pm

But are they happy?

Not the Russians or the Barbados guys presently getting the bills on behalf of the US State Department.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 7, 2023 9:04 pm

Apparently one of the boats requires the air conditioning on 24/7 to stop a Miro painting going mouldy. A beyond First World problem.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 7, 2023 9:19 pm

As an aside we went to the MiroFoundation place just out of Barcelona. Was a good day outing from memory. Plenty of clapped out Olympics ruins around too.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 7, 2023 9:24 pm

The Sun (UK):

HAMAS militants have been paragliding into southern Israel after launching a shocking early morning attack, sparking a declaration of war from Israel

Paragliding, apparently.

This better not be a Ghost of Kyiv thing.

JC
JC
October 7, 2023 9:33 pm

I bet they wouldn’t be happy with the cost of boat fuel every time they have to get the credit card out at the pump. It could cost 250K to get the boat from the US to Europe, if not more..

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 7, 2023 9:35 pm

The IDF has now declared Operation Swords of Iron.

The I.D.F. has always gone in for suitable designations for Operations – the Operation that wreaked retribution on the Palis for the massacre at the Munich Olympics was designated “Wrath of God.”

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 7, 2023 9:36 pm

JC – they said about USD 2,000 a day for the air conditioning alone without going anywhere. Deep pockets needed.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 7, 2023 9:37 pm

Israel’s Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu declares war on Hamas

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 7, 2023 9:41 pm

Everything probably dwarfed by the legal fees ensuring you get a decent title before you get the cheque book out.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
October 7, 2023 9:42 pm
feelthebern
feelthebern
October 7, 2023 9:44 pm

How could Hamas launch 1000s of rockets with no intel of the build up?

JC
JC
October 7, 2023 9:50 pm

H B Bear
Oct 7, 2023 9:36 PM

JC – they said about USD 2,000 a day for the air conditioning alone without going anywhere. Deep pockets needed.

FMD

US $730,000 for a/c alone. The boats I was talking about must be speedboats then.

Think of the emissions. If only they ran these things on batteries.

Bear, can you imagine the amount of CO2 these fcuckers send up in the sky? They wouldn’t dream of a commercial flight to get to the boat. They’d go private jet too.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 7, 2023 9:52 pm

Hamas attack: This was a terrible intelligence failure by Israel
greg sheridan greg sheridan

9:11PM October 7, 2023
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The Hamas attack is an Israeli nightmare. Not so much the perhaps 5000 rockets – though the numbers are disputed – the terrorist group launched against Israel, but the terrorists roaming through southern Israeli towns, where women and children take shelter in “safe rooms” while the towns’ men try to fight the terrorists off. And civilians are gunned down.

The implications of this will reverberate for years, decades, in the Middle East, as did the Yom Kippur war on this date 50 years ago when Syria and Egypt launched a surprise attack on Israel.

“Citizens of Israel,” Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said, “we are at war, and we will win.”

The Israeli response will be fearsome. But the immediate course of this conflict is deeply unclear.

This was a terrible intelligence failure by Israel. That Hamas could coordinate such a big operation, with not only huge numbers of rockets but also countless Hamas terrorists flooding in to southern Israel, without Israeli intelligence hearing a whisper of it in advance, is shocking.

Israel withdrew from all of Gaza in 2005. The hope was that it could withdraw from most of the West Bank and a Palestinian state at peace with Israel follow.

JC
JC
October 7, 2023 9:52 pm

feelthebern
Oct 7, 2023 9:44 PM

How could Hamas launch 1000s of rockets with no intel of the build up?

The Mossad boss by rights should be in a spot of trouble by now.

amortiser
amortiser
October 7, 2023 9:53 pm

This morning spoken to a guy working part time for AEC referendum. Says when putting ballot in the box supposed to be folded. Many don’t do this so the staff have to do it later. That way they get to see whether a yes or no.

He is in a long held Labour electorate. Says the ballots he is seeing are over 75% No.

Have met him once before and he himself is a No voter. No reason to doubt him.

I call BS on this story.
The ballot boxes into which the votes are placed are sealed and witnessed before voting commenced. They are not unsealed and opened until close of voting on 14 October. AEC staff cannot access ballots once they are placed in the box whether they are folded or not. It’s entirely up to the voter whether the ballot is folded or not. The slot is wide enough to accommodate both.

Unless the voter shows the ballot to an AEC worker the ballot remains secret until counting begins.

Johnny Rotten
October 7, 2023 9:58 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Oct 7, 2023 9:37 PM
Israel’s Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu declares war on Hamas

Time now for Israel to drop a load of nukes on those Iranians. Set their oil fields alight at the same time which should help Global Boiling. And stuff up the Chinese and North Koreans.

JC
JC
October 7, 2023 10:03 pm

Wodney, if the Israelis “nuked” Iran, what would be the purpose of setting their oil fields alight after obliterating the country. I don’t quite get your extended logic here.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 7, 2023 10:05 pm

I don’t quite get your extended logic here.

It’s ‘part time bovver boy’ logic.

He won’t do it himself, he wants someone else to do it while he chants in the background.

MatrixTransform
October 7, 2023 10:09 pm

sounds like the experts here know how things really work

lawyers at 20 paces and …. sorry mate, all my money’s tied up ?

really?

how about … geez, hope your new hotel doesn’t have any services interruptions in the middle of summer

what’s that? your chillers aren’t going?

well … when we get paid I’ll see if we can get somebody to have a look

ring me on Monday.

what? … you wanna know what the password is for the automation system?

tell you what, when the engineer’s back from leave … I ask him and let you know.

ok?

C.L.
C.L.
October 7, 2023 10:19 pm

Hamas attack: This was a terrible intelligence failure by Israel
Greg Sheridan Greg Sheridan

Oh bullshit.

Try the CIA believing it was going to regime change Russia in a fortnight, Greg. That’s what you call an intelligence failure.

I’m tired of this hackneyed response to anything big and bad that goes down.

‘Intelligence’ is not some kind of foolproof mystical system.

JC
JC
October 7, 2023 10:22 pm

Let’s try the reverses Trans, and see what you come up with, being the smartest guy on a build site.

You screw up the job and receive a lawyers letter saying that you must repair the work in 7 days or the hotel owner will find a repairer and will go after you and your insurance provider immediately for costs.

Do you

1/ thumb your nose at the letter and repeat to yourself, I’m a God Oracle and people shit themselves when I walk into a room, so they wouldn’t dare try that on with me, the living a/c god?

2/ Or do you shit yourself and repair the faulty work immediately?

lotocoti
lotocoti
October 7, 2023 10:24 pm
C.L.
C.L.
October 7, 2023 10:32 pm

Sheridan can’t help decrying that Australia doesn’t have 150,000 rockets as Hezbollah supposedly does.

Are we being threatened by Papua New Guinea?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 7, 2023 10:33 pm

Bulldoze al-aqsa.

It’s a pity that the Israeli soldiers that captured the sh!thole in 1967 didn’t level it to the ground. Winged horse, my hairy aunt!

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 7, 2023 10:34 pm

Watching the World Cup in the crikkit. It is in India.

The tournament has a plethora of secondary sponsors, of which most are cement companies. Its primary sponsor is Aramco:

Saudi Aramco, officially the Saudi Arabian Oil Group or simply Aramco, is a Saudi petroleum and natural gas company, most of whose shares are owned by the Saudi Arabian state. As of 2022, it is the second largest company in the world by revenue and is headquartered in Dhahran.

No ‘Just Stop Oil’ protestors running onto the field with orange paint and such. I would imagine this is because should they even dare to have a crack at this, they would get flogged by security guards, almost beaten to death by the crowd on their way out and spend years in Indian jails getting waterboarded with premium unleaded.

Cowards.

JC
JC
October 7, 2023 10:34 pm

Another 48 hours and another threat of taking everyone out with him.

NUCLEAR EXTINCTION: PUTIN HAS THREATENED ANNIHILATION IF A NUCLEAR STRIKE IS DETECTED

Putin’s recent statements on nuclear capabilities should be alarming to EVERYONE.

He threatened ‘enemies’ with total nuclear annihilation, leaving ‘no chance of survival’

Putin emphasized that once Nuclear missile launches are detected, a massive retaliatory strike of HUNDREDS of Russian Nuclear missiles will be unleashed from various directions, ensuring that ‘no single enemy survives.’

In other words, any Nuclear strike from any NATO member could mean a simultaneous and total nuclear strike against all NATO nuclear powers, including the U.S.

It’s important to note that NATO has never threatened a first strike on Moscow.

Recent reports suggested suspicions of a new test in the Arctic involving the Burevestnik, a super powerful missile with an onboard nuclear reactor.

Putin also bragged about the successful testing of the ‘Sarmat’ or ‘Satan-2,’ an unstoppable ICBM that travels at 15,880 mph and is the size of a 14-storey tower block.

He vowed to move towards mass production and combat duty deployment soon.

When asked about resuming nuclear weapons testing, Putin remained non-committal, suggesting Russia could potentially revoke ratification of the international nuclear test ban treaty.

C.L.
C.L.
October 7, 2023 10:35 pm

JC, what you wrote earlier today re the “evil” of what is being done to Trump is spot-on. That is the word to use. I am now committed to Trump in 24. Apart from everything else, he has shown character that people lightly assumed he didn’t have to endure it all. He is becoming genuinely heroic.

Rabz
October 7, 2023 10:39 pm

it’s about the principle winning

CL – care to enunciate what the “principle” is?

JC
JC
October 7, 2023 10:43 pm

CL

They’ve gone after this man since the first week he won the presidency that not only hasn’t stopped but they’ve escalated. They want him dead in any way possible. The amount of state sanctioned abuse he’s taken makes him the hero of the 21st C. I was actually moved when I saw the vid of the guy today. He looked tired of the sheer torture he’s going through. Did you see the vid of the smiling/giggling judge when he realized the camera was on him? Just evil. Yeah, I’m all for Trump in 24.

Cassie of Sydney
October 7, 2023 10:49 pm

Fifty years ago, in 1973, I remember clearly we Jews praying in synagogue for our fellow Jews in Israel, when Arab states attacked.

Tonight, in 2023, as Israel is under attack yet again, I prayed in synagogue with other Jews for the Jews in Israel, under attack again from murderous adherents of a death cult.

I’m sure tonight there are are Jew haters across the world, and those lingering here, who are celebrating today’s attacks, but I heed the words of the rabbi tonight in synagogue, who reminded an consoled us us that tonight we celebrate the giving of the Torah by Hashem, and that we Jews will always prevail, that unlike eight years ago when Jews were slaughtered, we now have an army who will fight for us and we now have Israel, always was, always will be the eternal homeland of the Jewish people. He said to us tonight that we Jews will prevail. I am reminded of the words from Kohelet (Ecclesiastes)….

A time to kill and a time to heal; a time to break and a time to build.

I add this here….

A time for vengeance, a time for justice. of which there will both. There will be no turning the other cheek to this.

And for those Jew haters, particularly those on the progressive left, many of whom now populate our government, beginning from the top, who like to spend their time trivialising and equating the violence, who fund the violence with our taxes, and who insist that Hamas has “legitimate grievances”, hear this, there is zero comparison, one side is a murderous terrorist group that likes to kill Jews for the pleasure of killing Jews, the other side is an army that, like any army, can make mistakes, but is perhaps, echoing the words of Colonel Richard Kemp, the most moral and efficient army in the world, and this army will defend the Jewish people.

Cassie of Sydney
October 7, 2023 10:53 pm

And let me add this, Israel has become affluent, spoilt, and this combined with months of leftist protests, funded by the Biden administration and Soros, has dented it.

Time to get tough again.

C.L.
C.L.
October 7, 2023 10:54 pm

Did you see the vid of the smiling/giggling judge when he realized the camera was on him?

Most punchable face of 2023.

C.L.
C.L.
October 7, 2023 10:56 pm

HEAR HEAR, Cassie.

JC
JC
October 7, 2023 10:57 pm

“Basically” has any organization or individual country threatened Russia with a first strike?

Johnny Rotten
October 7, 2023 11:01 pm

JC
Oct 7, 2023 10:03 PM

Your lisp seems to be getting worse. Maybe more treatment is needed. Any good doctors in NY?

It would show the world once again not to mess with them.

Anyway, Hamas has gone way too far this time and Israel is at war. Has been since day one.

As WolfmanOz said with the Bette Davis post – It will be a bumpy ride.

Johnny Rotten
October 7, 2023 11:02 pm

JC
Oct 7, 2023 10:57 PM
“Basically” has any organization or individual country threatened Russia with a first strike?

Nazi Germany in WW2.

Razey
Razey
October 7, 2023 11:06 pm

I bet Alcosleezy and Wong are having a quiet celebration tonight.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 7, 2023 11:07 pm

calli

Oct 7, 2023 6:51 PM

Matrix, my definition of a progress claim is

something that a customer ignores for six to nine weeks in the hope that they can fnck up your cash-flow so badly that they never have to actually pay you

Currently have a couple of wealthy d*cks who are treating the New Broom like a bank. The usual excuse – money on deposit, have to wait until it matures

Such a bullshit excuse.
Truth is, most TDs can be drawn down early for a modest reduction in interest rate.
They are taking the piss.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 7, 2023 11:13 pm

“Basically” has any organization or individual country threatened Russia with a first strike?

Then, from the part-timer:

Nazi Germany in WW2.

Ah, no. In fact, it was the opposite. The Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact.

lotocoti
lotocoti
October 7, 2023 11:15 pm

We are not murderers.
Yes you are.

Johnny Rotten
October 7, 2023 11:20 pm

Knuckle Dragger
Oct 7, 2023 11:13 PM

Hello Sheep Shagger. Talking about part timers, back from the Pub now?

Or just woken up?

Nazi Germany did it and Stalin was warned before it happened.

Being a paranoid ‘commie’, he did not believe his own advisers. The West saved his backside.

Please keep up with events. Sheep Shagger.

Cassie of Sydney
October 7, 2023 11:24 pm

“C.L.
Oct 7, 2023 10:56 PM
HEAR HEAR, Cassie.”

Thank you C.L. Please pray for Israel, please pray for the Jewish people. As the rabbi reminded us tonight, God hears our prayers.

MatrixTransform
October 7, 2023 11:25 pm

Truth is, most TDs ….

Lego-man to the rescue

in the building game?
got yrself in a cash-flow pickle?

bitten of more than you can chew?

call 1800 Lego Man

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 7, 2023 11:25 pm

Knuckle Dragger

Oct 7, 2023 10:34 PM

Watching the World Cup in the crikkit. It is in India.

The tournament has a plethora of secondary sponsors, of which most are cement companies. Its primary sponsor is Aramco

Yes.
Whilst Captain Carbon and his buddies were tearing their Alinta badges off their gear in disgust about “dirty coal” they happily lined up in front of Aramco signs at the T20 World Cup.
Why?
Because Aramco is a major sponsor of the IPL.
And Aramco will take action against recalcitrants but Alinta will not.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 7, 2023 11:28 pm

Nazi Germany did it and Stalin was warned before it happened.

Yes, but Stalin was not warned by the Krauts, let alone threatened by them. That was original premise – has anyone ever threatened Russia with a first strike, remember?

Oh, you poor thing, you probably don’t.

Please keep up with events. Sheep Shagger.

Speaking of events, I told you yesterday. There are no sheep in the NT. I realise this is difficult for you.

MatrixTransform
October 7, 2023 11:30 pm

it’s a ‘bullshit excuse’

…. tell them Lego-man and Yosemite Sam said so

gawd you two clowns are full of shit

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 7, 2023 11:32 pm

Nazi Germany did it and Stalin was warned before it happened.

A German deserter who crossed the lines, and warned the Soviets that the attack was imminent, was shot, on Stalin’s orders.

lotocoti
lotocoti
October 7, 2023 11:50 pm

No reportage can be complete without the obligatory
palestinian ambulance destroyed by Israeli air strike.
You’re not supposed to notice the rest of the picture.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 7, 2023 11:52 pm

Whilst Captain Carbon and his buddies were tearing their Alinta badges off their gear in disgust about “dirty coal” they happily lined up in front of Aramco signs at the T20 World Cup.
Why?

The BCCI tells them how to suck eggs.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 7, 2023 11:52 pm

wheres me money

sorry mate its on td

oh ok no worries
how long

five years

oh well thats alright then
cant be helped

Indolent
Indolent
October 7, 2023 11:53 pm
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 7, 2023 11:57 pm

Death toll in Israel reaches 40, with 779 injured
Agency writers
Agency writers

At least 40 people have been killed in Israel during fighting with Palestinian militants on Saturday, the Magen David Adom emergency medical services said in a statement.

“Since the morning hours, MDA teams provided medical care to hundreds of casualties, and pronounced 40 people dead,” it said, while the Israeli health ministry confirmed that at least 779 people had been injured and taken to hospitals.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 8, 2023 12:00 am

Palestine may cease to exist? There’s a down side to this?

lotocoti
lotocoti
October 8, 2023 12:16 am

Palestine may cease to exist?

The animals have posted a video which would hasten that,
were it ever broadcast, uncensored.

C.L.
C.L.
October 8, 2023 12:24 am

JC, I’m not seeing any news angle in Russia saying it will retaliate if it is subjected to a nuclear attack.

Yes, Russia is somewhat gung-ho about nuclear weapons – a fetish that has allowed it to make the world’s most deadly arsenal of massive and advanced hypersonic missiles. Its alleged over-enthusiasm led to the breakdown of the INF treaty – which the US was gleefully eager to abandon. The US has its own new programs to counter China’s. Personally, I think the INF’s demise was a gentleman’s agreement between Moscow and Washington to allow each to do its desired thing.

What Putin is really saying is that if foreign armies are mobilised to ‘retake’ Crimea, say, that will be regarded as an attack on Russia. If, thereafter, consideration was given in the West to attacking Russia pre-emptively (on the moral pretext of protecting those foreign troops), the attacker – understood as the Western allies conjointly – will run the risk of being conjointly annihilated.

C.L.
C.L.
October 8, 2023 12:25 am

Palestine may cease to exist?

It doesn’t exist already.

MatrixTransform
October 8, 2023 12:28 am

sorry mate its on td

is it …

Johnny Rotten
October 8, 2023 1:09 am

Speaking of events, I told you yesterday. There are no sheep in the NT. I realise this is difficult for you.

Never saw any post on that subject. And why are there no sheep in the C U in the NT?

Did you shag them all silly”. Baaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh.

Lysander
Lysander
October 8, 2023 2:20 am

Cassie
Our Parish Priest (He’s a very solid citizen who has hung out with the likes of Pell and Rabbi Sachs) offered Mass this evening for Israel and our Hebrew “godparents” (an affectionate Catholic term for the Jewish). I pray your friends/family are safe as we also have friends who were literally bunkered down in Galilee.

I’ve seen a lot of awful sh!t in my years but none has so filled me with rage as it has this evening. I sincerely hope “Palestine” is turned into a car park.

Helen
Helen
October 8, 2023 2:24 am

There are sheep in the NT. My granddaughter has a flock.

Lysander
Lysander
October 8, 2023 2:37 am

Honestly don’t know how Leftards tweet “f*** Israel” and the like.

Do they really think the pig f**kers care? They have throat slitting plans for those Leftards too, ya know. As if Charlie Hebdo (and others) wasn’t enough to prove that…

Tom
Tom
October 8, 2023 4:00 am
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 8, 2023 4:29 am

Re that week in pics shot of 40’s beauties. I think in the 40’s and 50’s all girls had more natural figures, with no thin thighs. The pointy bras of course were just for show. We didn’t always fill them. Especially if like me you were still ‘developing’.

We are in Villath in Austria, having descended on an autobahn for 185 km from Bechestgaden, through massive tunnels from scenic valley to valley, for these Alps are never-ending. We are still at 500 ft. But the trip has been much easier driving on these engineered highways with major bridges and tunnels to keep the traffic flowing. Hairy says, with heavy irony, that Austria will have good roads when they finish the endless road works for they kept us at 80km per hour for much of the way. They are prepar ou ng for winter, I say, because now the weather has turned. It’s warm in the day but nights and mornings are becoming cold. Almost into the foothills now in an apartment doing some washing.

Terrible news from Isreal.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 8, 2023 4:56 am

Memo to Hamas.

Most non-neanderthals don’t like seeing footage of dead or unconscious IDF personal, half stripped out of their uniforms in the back tray of your 4WD’s while your Hamas apes cheer it on.

And it’s especially ripe if they are female.

The footage that these subhumans are uploading onto TikTok & twitter is some of the worst I’ve seen.

Tom
Tom
October 8, 2023 4:59 am
Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
October 8, 2023 6:06 am

Having been very unwell and incommunicado since Friday afternoon after dental surgery, I’ve awoken this morning to the terrible news of the terrorist attack on Israel. I pray the state of Israel will do what must be done. God bless and protect Israel and the Jewish people. Amen

miltonf
miltonf
October 8, 2023 6:09 am

Amen. We live in dangerous times.

Gabor
Gabor
October 8, 2023 6:24 am

However, Labor Party leader Merav Michaeli wrote on X: “Today is Netanyahu’s Yom Kippur – a terrible and shameful failure, and a tough morning. To start Saturday and the holiday morning, children run to the stairwell with terrible reports about what is happening in the southern settlements.”

Even in this situation, the communists can’t help being what they are.

How on earth is this the fault of Netanyahu?
He may have many but not this.

calli
calli
October 8, 2023 7:15 am

It’s a shame Powerline doesn’t allow hotlinks any more.

The Shakespeare one is pertinent to Israel and Hamas.

I fervently hope they discover the hard way.

calli
calli
October 8, 2023 7:20 am

Albanese courting the Imams this week has aged well.

He’s an even better tactician than ScoMo.

bons
bons
October 8, 2023 7:24 am

One wonders about the future if Obama’s Israeli judges once (if) this is over.

lotocoti
lotocoti
October 8, 2023 7:35 am

How to make a Rangers fan.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 8, 2023 7:40 am

In its wisdom the BBC, only English news channel we have, said that they had decided not to show the Hammas displaying of hostages. Yet they show fake shots of Palestinian women carrying ‘dead’ babies. Bias, as usual…

We turn it off and return to the internet. We commend your prayers for Israel, Tinta.

Tomorrow we head to Treviso, your home territory, for 3 days in an Italian Villa hotel before driving to Trieste to get on the ship.

bons
bons
October 8, 2023 7:43 am

Interesting that the headline reports and detailed news of the Gaza war are so completely dominated by Al-Jazeera.
Oh, and the Guardian, but they are the same outfit.
They must be such professional journalists to have obtained so much inside information so quickly. One would be tempted to think that they were part of the plan. An unworthy thought, I know.
Al-Jizz will rise even further in SBS’s scale of favourites.

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 8, 2023 7:49 am

Piers Akerman:

I’ve met many ignorant people, but never have I met as many smugly ignorant individuals as I did while offering No campaign leaflets to referendum voters outside a pre-polling station in Teal territory this week. They were Yes campaign workers and Yes voters.

The whole of the Yes strategy throughout this divisive process has been designed to keep the aims of the elite group that designed the Uluru statement hidden from the public.

The proof lies in Prime Minister Anthony Albanese’s disgraceful refusal to acknowledge the existence of the documents supporting the demands for the insertion of a whole new chapter in the Constitution, through to the most recent and derogatory remarks of broadcaster Ray Martin.

I’ve never joined a political party and won’t while I am a working journalist. But while I felt this referendum didn’t require me to join a party, I could not stand by and let others do all the heavy lifting in combating the might of the major corporates, the taxpayer-funded ABC and the rest of the Left-wing media and the government-funded Yes campaign. Pulling on the T-shirt with the Vote No to Division slogan was easy. Maintaining a smile while being called a racist by people who admitted they hadn’t read any of the many explosive statements made by supporters of the Uluru statement was not.

Not only had they not read the emotive and deceitful pamphlet that urges a vote for recognition in the Constitution, they weren’t aware it made no mention of the second leg of the loaded question that locks in the unelected Voice as a permanent fixture of the Constitution, giving its members the right to make representations to government.

The small group of No volunteers was heavily outnumbered by the Yes campaigners wearing their Allegra Spender for Wentworth colours.

While younger Yes team members were friendly, others were not as congenial and there was a disturbing triteness in their apparent banal acceptance of vague assurances that absence of detail was unimportant.

None of the voters I encountered was as hostile as one prominent Aboriginal sports star who told a No worker she was a racist and that she was on his land, which she had stolen.

My fear is whichever way the votes fall, it is this poisonous attitude that will linger, so steeped are the Yes campaigners in racist venom.

The former reconciliation leader, Noel Pearson, no longer sounds profound, delivering words that can be described as ugly and divisive.

He seems to prefer multi-syllable words, as if they signify wisdom. He should study the speeches of Martin Luther King Jr, Nelson Mandela, Mahatma Gandhi or Bob Hawke. None championed divisiveness on racial grounds.

The only positive to come from Albanese’s expensive exercise in virtue-signalling has been the exposure of the money wasted by organisations tasked to work with Aboriginals. We desperately need the audit of all funding spent on these bureaucracies, as outlined by Jacinta Nampijinpa Price and Peter Dutton. The 2021 census provided hard proof of the unnecessary nature of Albanese’s referendum. The division his Yes campaign is promoting is already being remedied in households across Australia.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
October 8, 2023 7:50 am

Is the attack on Israel the result of the leftist government that they had for a while, allowing terrorists to hatch plans because they weren’t having to watch their own backs? For this to have happened I can only think Mossad have been nobbled during this time. We all know Israel will prevail and the Palis’ will continue to blame everyone but themselves. My thoughts are with you Cassie and your worldwide family.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 8, 2023 7:50 am

Sorry, Calli, we won’t have much info on Trieste for your visit as we are driving in from Treviso on the morning of the cruise, dropping the car off at the airport from its Milan to Trieste hire, and taking a cab then to the wharf.

Hairy assures me the timings will be perfect. I hope so, for I am more of a contingency planner than he is. But I can’t win all of our timing discussions.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 8, 2023 7:53 am

The former reconciliation leader, Noel Pearson, no longer sounds profound, delivering words that can be described as ugly and divisive.

He seems to prefer multi-syllable words, as if they signify wisdom. 

mong

good thing we don’t have that here on the cat

Dot
Dot
October 8, 2023 7:59 am

a fetish that has allowed it to make the world’s most deadly arsenal of massive and advanced hypersonic missiles

Their “hypersonic missiles” are overhyped like everything else in their third world arsenal. Hypersonic if dropped from a fast jet whilst launched, at altitude. Their actual speed is around half of what Russia claims.

Remember the literal thousands of Armata tanks that were going to smash Ukraine?

They have literal cities dedicated to building these! By the end of late 2022, Ukraine will be reincorporated back into Russia!

Well that never happened. They probably haven’t fielded a single T-14. They have on the other hand fielded thousands of T-55s with rocks in metal cages as top down attack HEAT warhead defence.

Top tier, first world tech. Their economy must be going ticketty boo as well, not being able to mass produce (or at all) any new elaborate machinery.

m0nty Putin: Any day now. Any day!

What we get is histrionics and the firehose of misinformation to save face.

Another fetish that needs to be looked at is revanchist tendencies and the cult of Peter the Great.

Dot
Dot
October 8, 2023 8:04 am

Haaretz’s incredibly bad hot takes on Bibi being a dictator now should respectfully shut up after they lobbied for the bench and a prosecutor to rule the country as a shadow government.

Israel will prevail. The old saying that Israel will be secure when the Palestinians care about Israel as much as their own children is ringing in my head.

Zatara
Zatara
October 8, 2023 8:08 am

The hostage taking is what’s going to get them burned to the ground IMO.

There is absolutely NO excuse for that (as with the murders, but the world is used to those).

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 8, 2023 8:08 am

The news of Israel is blood boiling. Hamas won’t be around much longer with this shit, I expect a massive retaliation.
What are your thoughts monty?

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 8, 2023 8:13 am

Looking at the Daily Telegraph website, you need to scroll down 20 items before any mention of these atrocities are mentioned. Before that, we have Wayne Cooper marrying again, Bathurst, Albo voting and the school ban on mobile devices. FMD

JC
JC
October 8, 2023 8:16 am

Jeez

It sometimes hits 2 degrees of separation. Wifey was texted by her Jewish pal in the US that her niece was taken hostage in Israel. The family is beyond panicked.

johanna
johanna
October 8, 2023 8:23 am

Yup, Hamas really poked the bear this time. As they are about to find out.

That nincompoop Biden just gave Iran US$6 billion for reasons nobody half sentient seems to understand. He has Israeli blood on his hands.

Truly, in terms of foreign policy alone, this Administration must be the worst since Woodrow Wilson’s.

Pogria
Pogria
October 8, 2023 8:28 am

Brendan O’Neill has written an excellent article at Spiked about the attack on Israel.
He mentions, as Cassie did earlier about the internal problems Israel has been having has been a major contributor to Security Services having taken their eye off the ball, so to speak.

For what it’s worth, I am glad Netanyahu is back. He is the only one who will deal with this atrocity with the cold ferocity needed. Also, I believe the filthy sand apes had inside help. No way they could have kept the planning for such a gigantic operation off the radar.

Brendan is also correct in how he calls out the media’s reporting of the attack. The article is well worth read.

lotocoti
lotocoti
October 8, 2023 8:28 am

I expect a massive retaliation.

I expect our betters equivocators will be calling for a measured and proportionate response.
Roman would be my preference.

calli
calli
October 8, 2023 8:34 am

None of the voters I encountered was as hostile as one prominent Aboriginal sports star who told a No worker she was a racist and that she was on his land, which she had stolen.

The Aboriginal “sports star” has culturally appropriated (ie. stolen) a sport which has no cultural anchors in aboriginality.

They should retire immediately and give back any of their ill gotten gains acquired from this sport.

Then I might consider their claims of theft and racism. Until then, pi55 off.

chrisl
chrisl
October 8, 2023 8:34 am

In the papers today , there is war and there’s waste
But I turn right over to the TV page …

bons
bons
October 8, 2023 8:34 am

Fascinating that the Obama directed Israeli smartasses who have been demanding that reservists refuse to report for training are suddenly demanding a 100% call-up now that their relatives are being murdered and kidnapped.
Reality has always been the deadly enemy of the Left.

calli
calli
October 8, 2023 8:35 am

New Elbow “Zinger”

Imamomentum!

You know it makes sense.

Pogria
Pogria
October 8, 2023 8:35 am
GreyRanga
GreyRanga
October 8, 2023 8:36 am

We think alike Pogria.

Dot
Dot
October 8, 2023 8:36 am

Imamomentum!

What the hell is this dribbling idiot inflicting on us now?

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
October 8, 2023 8:37 am

Prayers for Israel from our household. It will be fascinating to see the reactions from certain suburbs of Sydney and Melbourne.

Cassie of Sydney
October 8, 2023 8:37 am

“C.L.
Oct 8, 2023 12:25 AM
Palestine may cease to exist?

It doesn’t exist already.”

Correct, and may it never, because here’s the thing, “Palestine” does not deserve to exist.

I can’t look at the coverage, I just can’t.

Gaza is a shit hole, it should be levelled. As for the scum on the left who howl “occupation”, Gaza has not been occupied for eighteen years. Israel pulled out in 2005, and since then Gaza and Gazans, under Hamas, instead of trying to build and create a prosperous state (where Jews would have happily helped them), instead preferred to engage in plain old fashioned Jew hatred. That is the raison d’etre for Gaza……JEW HATRED. Palestine itself, as a whole, is defined by Jew hatred, nothing else. They still want to push the Jews into the sea.

There’s an American youtuber by the name of Corey Gil-Shuster. He has a Youtube channel where he goes into the West Bank, to cities such as Ramallah, Bethlehem and Hebron (never Gaza) to speak to Palestinians, young and old. It’s a vox populi type channel. His project it to “ask a Palestinian/ask an Israeli” questions. It’s interesting, and more often than not, sickening. His forays into “Palestine”, where he asks questions such as “do you believe Israel has a right to exist?”, “do you believe in two state solution?”, “what will you do with the Jews once you destroy Israel?” are interesting because they provide us with a frightening insight into the mentality of Palestinian Muslims, young and old…in fact the young are worse. These people have no interest in “peace”, they don’t believe a Jewish state has a right to exist, they want the Jews pushed into the sea. Nothing has changed, nothing will change.

An interesting aspect to Gil Shuster’s videos is the radical difference in mentality between Palestinian Christians and Muslims. Sometimes, if he’s in Ramallah or Bethlehem, he speaks to a Palestinian Christian. I have a lot of sympathy for Palestinian Christians, they are caught between a rock and a hard place. But the difference in outlook between the Christians and Muslims is staggering.

Last night, in synagogue, I spoke to a prominent person in our community. He says that there are multiple reasons for what is happening in Israel, among them…

1. Leftist protests, financed by Biden and Soros.

2. The fact that Israel and Saudi Arabia are about to sign a pact. Oh and again, one of the major achievements of Trump was the Abraham Accords, and friendlier ties between Israel and Saudi. We can thank Trump for this.

3. Affluence, Israel has become too affluent and comfortable.

4. The Sniffer’s administration’s payoff to Iran last week. All it has done is to empower Iran further. Iran finances both Hamas and Hezbollah. And remember, Israel has Hezbollah on it’s northern border, I suspect Israel and Israelis are very nervous today.

Lastly, the left here, including Jew haters like Lidia Thorpe, like to talk about Aboriginal land never being ceded. Well here’s a fact, the Jews never ceded their rights to the land known as Judea and Samaria. We never did, and we never will. That land has always been, and always will be, the eternal homeland of the Jewish people. After losing six million, all Jews wanted was a homeland IN their homeland.

Here’s my message to Hamas, Hezbollah, leftists, progressives, to the pervert apologist, and to all the others, the Jews are back in their homeland, the Jews will stay in their homeland, the Jews are not going anywhere.

The West has become steeped in a deadly cocktail of wokeness, of affluence, of vacuousness and of historical amnesia, caused by the collapse of its foundations, particularly the collapse of religion. Now the West is drenched in woke progressive ideology. People don’t quite understand just how insidious and dangerous wokeism is, wokeism is exactly like acid, it destroys everything. Westerners, be they here in OZ, the UK, USA or Canada, have fallen into a Rip Van Winkle sleep, forgetting history, ignoring basic facts, and so what happens? In Canada two weeks ago, under an utterly despicable cockroach by the name of Justin Trudeau, a man with a long history of putting on blackface for cheap vulgar entertainment, a man who loves to screech “Nazis” at his political opponents, decided to honour a real Nazi, a man who’d been a member of the Waffen SS. Do you laugh or do you cry when you see this? Whilst I fumed watching the scenes of what ensued in the Canadian parliament, I can’t say I was very surprised because this is what happens when a culture forgets its history. Trudeau, Andrews, the pervert apologist here on this blog, and others who just love to scream Nazis, who love to fantasise about punching Nazis, well, the descendants of the Waffen SS are Hamas and Hezbollah, they are today’s Nazis, and yesterday, on a Jewish holy day, Jews in Israel are under attack from REAL Nazis.

Here’s a thought, if Monty wants to punch some Nazis, I suggest he head off to Gaza pronto, because there are lots of Nazis there, real Nazis, killing Jews as I write.

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 8, 2023 8:39 am

Rishi Sunak weighs in:

“I am shocked by this morning’s attacks by Hamas terrorists against Israeli citizens. Israel has an absolute right to defend itself,”
“We’re in contact with Israeli authorities, and British nationals in Israel should follow travel advice.”

All well and good from the ABC website. But Sunak did this on Twitter. What’s wrong with being a statesman and delivering this at a lecturn?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 8, 2023 8:40 am

calli

Oct 8, 2023 8:35 AM

New Elbow “Zinger”

Imamomentum!

Could be the net zero he keeps looking for.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 8, 2023 8:41 am

That nincompoop Biden just gave Iran US$6 billion for reasons nobody half sentient seems to understand.

Babylon Bee is now doing actual news…

White House Issues Condemnation Of Attack Biden Funded (7 Oct, via Instapundit)

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
October 8, 2023 8:42 am

BB @ 8.08, you are expecting a lot of mutley. Thinking…… I have people to do that for me.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 8, 2023 8:45 am

lotocoti
Oct 8, 2023 8:28 AM
I expect a massive retaliation.

I expect our betters equivocators will be calling for a measured and proportionate response.
Roman would be my preference.

Hmmm. How many Israeli civilians have been killed or injured? The same to the enemy, plus 100% interest.

How many Israeli hostages have been taken, the same in return, with interest, and executions if the Palis start executing hostages.

lotocoti
lotocoti
October 8, 2023 8:45 am

New Elbow “Zinger”
Imamomentum!

Imodium might be more appropriate.

calli
calli
October 8, 2023 8:48 am

That US embassy tweet tells you everything you need to know about the current US government’s attitude to Israel.

They became a failed state through deception in 2020, unless they change tack on this one, they’ll be finished sooner rather than later. That’s no threat from a pleb like me, it’s a promise from someone far higher up the line. At the Top, if you like.

shatterzzz
October 8, 2023 8:52 am

MSN news blocks comments after 13 got thru (which are also blocked) on Luigi statement on Israel.. I never, ever listen to Luigi so I’m guessing whatever he’s got to say isn’t one of his finer moments ..
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/other/anthony-albanese-condemns-indiscriminate-and-abhorrent-attacks-against-israel/ar-AA1hQViq?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=1ad1b87b9bb5414483455107a93e9b63&ei=14

Cassie of Sydney
October 8, 2023 8:53 am

Men, women, children, babies, grandparents, mothers, fathers, taken hostage by Palestinian Nazis. We don’t know if they’re alive, the daughter and women no doubt raped.

Hey pervert apologist, go punch those Nazis. Go on big boy.

Dot
Dot
October 8, 2023 8:54 am

That’s no threat from a pleb like me, it’s a promise from someone far higher up the line. At the Top, if you like.

You are just an observer of reality.

Zatara
Zatara
October 8, 2023 8:56 am

The disgraceful tweet he is referring to has since been deleted.

Thankfully it was captured before they deleted it.

Dot
Dot
October 8, 2023 8:58 am

Please forgive my ignorance,

I thought (roughly) Hamas was backed by the MB and Hezbollah by Iran through Syria.

Obviously it might be much more complicated than that.

So has the KSA got a zero tolerance of the MB as a possible rival power base? Is this a new thing?

Or has Hamas been “turned” to (primarily) Iranian patronage?

This has bigger implications than just for Israel.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 8, 2023 8:59 am

Message for Luigi.
The attack on Israel is the end result of stoking division and dissent for generations.
Take a look.

Cassie of Sydney
October 8, 2023 8:59 am

For what it’s worth, I am glad Netanyahu is back. He is the only one who will deal with this atrocity with the cold ferocity needed. Also, I believe the filthy sand apes had inside help. No way they could have kept the planning for such a gigantic operation off the radar.”

Yep.

Cassie of Sydney
October 8, 2023 9:01 am

Rowan Dean is not mincing words.

shatterzzz
October 8, 2023 9:01 am

None of the voters I encountered was as hostile as one prominent Aboriginal sports star who told a No worker she was a racist and that she was on his land, which she had stolen.

Name & shame! .. if it was a “white” sports star naming would have been compulsory ..
problem with “journos’ is even when they, temporarily, stray off the “left ” reservation they can’t quite bring themselves to go the full “wordsmith” ……….

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