Open Thread – Weekend 14 Oct 2023


Idle Hours, William Merritt Chase, 1894

Subscribe
Notify of
guest

1.2K Comments
Inline Feedbacks
View all comments
Indolent
Indolent
October 14, 2023 9:27 pm
Nelson_Kidd-Players
October 14, 2023 9:29 pm

Early days, but thanks to The Guardian website (and Rosie for the link!):

Electorate / State / Yes (%) / No (%) / Votes counted (%)
O’Connor / WA / 8.7 / 91.3 / 0.1
Durack / WA / 12 / 88 / 0.2

Indolent
Indolent
October 14, 2023 9:30 pm
Makka
Makka
October 14, 2023 9:55 pm

“the racism of LOW EXPECTATIONS should go”- Jacinta.

Awesome.

alwaysright
alwaysright
October 14, 2023 9:55 pm

Rip Adern’s lunacy out ruthlessly.

Let the cattle leave a footprint more than 6 inches deep.

Bruce in WA
October 14, 2023 10:15 pm

Oh, Jeezus, Albo tearing up on Sky. “I was so proud standing next to all those beautiful Aboriginal women at Uluru …” (paraphrase)

“But this is not the end …” (paraphrase)

When I picked up the chef’s knife I was using by the blade, Dearly Beloved changed channels.

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
October 14, 2023 10:18 pm

Tomorrow, someone is going to have to explain all this to the CHILDREN !

Salvatore, Iron Publican
October 14, 2023 10:24 pm

Let the cattle leave a footprint more than 6 inches deep.

IIRC it was 3 & 1/4 inches depth, & applied to all livestock.

Makka
Makka
October 14, 2023 10:57 pm

Fewer jobs must be more agonizing tonight than making the call on unleashing the IDF into northern Gaza, knowing the impact it will have on the fate of so many Israeli hostages.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 14, 2023 11:07 pm

Hamas Leader Who Oversaw “Aerial Operations” Killed In Israeli Airstrike

Good riddance…

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 14, 2023 11:18 pm

Well a good response to Albo’s queef.
Enjoying a cab sav after smashing bowls. Again 🙂

Cassie of Sydney
October 14, 2023 11:18 pm

Last week, after visiting a western suburbs Sydney electorate, Tony Abbott was harassed by very white YES spruikers as he was leaving a function, these “YES” spruikers chased him, verbally abused him, and shouted at him, ‘Tone, you’re always on the wrong side of history”.

Well, given tonight’s result, it isn’t “Tone” who’s on the wrong side of history.

I’m sorry, but it really is time that the activists were made to eat their shit.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 14, 2023 11:28 pm

I’m sorry, but it really is time that the activists were made to eat their shit.

As a sandwich, without bread!

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
October 14, 2023 11:34 pm

11 days on pre poll 10 hours on booth today, 1 hour scrutineer, worth every minute.
Abused mostly by YES volunteers and a little by the public.
The vast majority were friendly and great to talk to. (both sides)

And the Australian public NEVER get it wrong!

NT big majority for NO, what happened to 80% aboriginal support?

Anders
Anders
October 14, 2023 11:55 pm

Just ticked over to 60% for NO nationally, absolutely crushing.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 15, 2023 12:05 am

Ok My Teal Electorate Mackellar with “Stupid Zali Steggall of NO Brains”

showing YES 50.47% – NO 49.53%

Given – https://tallyroom.aec.gov.au/ReferendumDivisionResults-29581-132.htm

seems to show Absent – Provisional – Declaration Pre-Poll not showing any numbers and my wife voted NO Pre-Poll

I take heart from Postal Vote Figures of YES 35.34% vs NO 66.64%

that in the end `Mackellat may end up with greater NO Vote – Sucks to Zali Steggall

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 15, 2023 12:06 am

Albo said thusly:

“We are not yes voters or no voters. We are all Australian. We must take our country beyond this debate, without forgetting while we had it in the first place.”

After taking the nation down a rabbit hole.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 15, 2023 12:12 am

Only Place in Australia – Territory to Vote YES – Public Servants on Australian Taxpayers Gravy Train/Teat in ACT

YES 62.25% – NO 37.75%

https://tallyroom.aec.gov.au/ReferendumStateResults-29581-ACT.htm

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 15, 2023 12:13 am
Barking Toad
Barking Toad
October 15, 2023 12:15 am

Albo ensuring his goosiness will endure forever.

Absolute embarrassing. I was disappointed he didn’t cry.

He let Linda have a 60 second go before getting on for another dribble.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
October 15, 2023 12:29 am

Still smiling after the referendum result.

And especially the Tassie result.

“Experts” said it would be a “Yes” State.

Punters said GAGF. 60% NO. Beautiful.

Chris Kenny must be suffering early onset dementia. Or he’s on ferking meth. Incoherent on Sky. Credlin gave him a good slapping.

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 15, 2023 12:31 am

Hi monty!
You piece of excretion. Absolute phucking moron.
On this site you gloated about ‘little wins’ in regards to the Trump.
Yet conspicuous in your absence.
Which means I can dance on your grave. Like Hamas would

Tom
Tom
October 15, 2023 4:00 am
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 15, 2023 4:08 am

Corfu – a book called ‘Adriatic’ which I am reading, by Robert Kaplan, says it well:

“The island of corfu is, and is not, Greece. It has been identified as much with the Adriatic as it has with the archipelagic Greek seaboard. Corfu, in a larger sense, constitutes a register of (and meditation on) European history itself. The real beauty of this island is how it makes you think, in the most profound and analytic way. Vandals, Goths, Byzantines, Slave and Barbary pirates, Normans, Angevins, Catalans, Venetians, Ottomans, Russians, French, British, Germans, and Italians all conquered, reconquered, or raided this Greek island not because of its beauty, but because of its strategic location. It is the Gibralter of the Adriatic.

And before all of that there was an ancient history.

On our tour today we came across the main strands of the above.

Most particularly, our attention was taken by the statue of an Austrian general, who in 1716 used the two old great forts, connected by tunnels, to maintain an Ottoman seige said to be 50,000 strong against 8,000 Corfuoits. No-one was more pleased than the Venetians. The Ottomans were constantly making attacks but this was the big one, and Corfu repelled it, assisted by a major storm sent by their patron Saint Spyridon. Every August 11th Corfu still celebrates his victory. They are not too keen on the Ottomans around here.

We were also impressed to see both the British and the French recognised as contributory and well-intentioned colonisers. The old Royal Palace where Prince Phillip was born was created in Regency style in the early C19th by a much loved British Governor, for his wife’s ‘get away’ from the main palace in town (that one in town bearing plentiful bullet holes in it from WW2). His statue, wearing a Roman toga to signify wisdom and dignitas, is a tribute to his work in infrastructure development and social welfare. The homesick Napoleonic French built a very fine replica of a Parisian promenade that Corfu delights in today. Not all colonisers were bad; what a relief. Sadly, this wise fellow only enjoyed four more years in the delightfully mild climate, entrancing landscapes and cosmopolitan atmosphere of Corfu. He was so successful he was posted on to India. The rewards of high office, says Hairy sarcastically, betting the man didn’t come home waving a piece of paper and saying to his wife ‘good news, darling’.

And if you’re sick of modern history and Corfu, just grab your copy of the Odyssey and read about Ulysses coming to Corfu trying to get home to Ithaca and being assisted by the King and Queen here, who knew him for a kinsman and gave him a boat and supplies. Then whip on a few hundred years later BC and you can turn to Thycydides’ Peloponnesian War and read more about the Athenian navy gathering here after Corfu had allied with Athens against Corfu’s overlords in Corinth.

If you are bored with all of that rub for good luck the much-rubbed nose of the bronze bust of either Gerald or Lawrence Durrell, memorialised in a park near the old palace, who both wrote about Corfu. Gerald called it ‘the garden of the gods’. So it is, too.

Figures
Figures
October 15, 2023 5:15 am

Indolent
Germany and Luxembourg

European elections: Ashes, ashes, the Greens fall down

With all these right wing victories let’s all, ummm, hope that the Right doesn’t use the left’s tactics against them.

It would be such a shame if all leftist leaders were indicted on nonsense charges or even just made to follow their own policies (ie be banned from owning property or use electricity).

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 15, 2023 5:17 am

Who had the Argies beating Wales?

Beertruk
October 15, 2023 5:37 am

Meanwhile in other news, Argentina 29 v Wales 17.

In Un Zud, Labor has been punted and the Conservatives are in.

Now off to watch Awl Blicks v Ireland at the local boozer with Brother in Law, wearing a Waratahs jersey.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 15, 2023 5:43 am

Hamas targeting schools & taking hostages was the key to their plans.

‘Top secret’ Hamas documents show that terrorists intentionally targeted elementary schools and a youth center

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/investigations/top-secret-hamas-documents-show-terrorists-intentionally-targeted-elem-rcna120310

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 15, 2023 5:46 am

More footage is coming through of the explosions that killed Pali’s driving south out of Gaza.
IED’s not air strikes.
Hamas detonated IED’s to stop people heading south.
I would say unbelievable but there is nothing I would put past these Hamas sub-humans.

Dot
Dot
October 15, 2023 6:11 am

The English ref is off to a good start, living in his own heroic fantasy.

I bet he doesn’t allow one change of possession by a competition in the ruck.

Dot
Dot
October 15, 2023 6:18 am

New Zealand steal the ball in the ruck and get a ridiculous and undeserved 50 m penalty goal!

Backs should not be refs.

caveman
caveman
October 15, 2023 6:21 am

Good to see Bolt sowing the seeds for Elbow to go.

Dot
Dot
October 15, 2023 6:21 am

Pretty sure NZ came around the side on that ruck. No penalty, then try!

Dot
Dot
October 15, 2023 6:24 am

About bloody time.

3 – 13

Dot
Dot
October 15, 2023 6:27 am

“I don’t think the water boys should be talking to the ref”

No shit!

Dot
Dot
October 15, 2023 6:30 am

Bundee Aki is in near the posts!

Dot
Dot
October 15, 2023 6:31 am

Sexton converts!

10 – 13

Dot
Dot
October 15, 2023 6:37 am

😐 10 – 18

Dot
Dot
October 15, 2023 6:43 am

15 – 18!

What a try!

Dot
Dot
October 15, 2023 6:44 am

The Sexton!

17 -18!

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
October 15, 2023 6:45 am

My wife’s comment on Toytown voting 60% yes. “This is what I have to contend with every day. Not a clue, think they know what the rest of Australia thinks”.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 15, 2023 6:48 am

Aha, just reading further into Kaplan’s book on the Adriatic, never believe what tour guides tell you, as they tend to muddle things up, especially dates and numbers; or sometimes mea culpa, perhaps the tourist taking in the scenery isn’t really listening. Whatever, a correction. It was in 1571 that Don Juan of Austria (he of the statue) came to Corfu with three hundred ships, 50,000 foot soldiers and 4,500 horses, stopping the Ottomans coming in and then chasing them to the Gulf of Lepanto in the Ionian Sea, defeating them soundly with the loss of 8000 Christian soldiers at sea on October 7th. So, this General is the hero of Lepanto, against the tide of Islam, which if sucessful would have exposed Venice and Sicily to Ottoman attack. Venice, of course, provided many of the ships and men. They called Corfu their ‘Adriatic door’.

Still remembered, especially the saintly help of St. Spyrodon of much earlier fame.

Kaplan also point to the ‘supernatural effect of the Greek landscape upon a visitor coming for the firt time from the West’. He quotes Lawrence Durrell on this, who see the landscape as an ‘enormous eye’, a lens for viewing through.

You enter Greece as one might enter a dark crystal; the form of things becomes irregular, refracted. Mirages suddenly swallow islands, and wherever you look the trembling curtain of the atmosphere deceives.

That is pure Corfu. We did this trip because I very much wanted to see Corfu, as something of a Durrell fan (both of Lawrence and Gerard). It hasn’t disappointed. Hairy had been before, when he was nineteen and at Cambridge, hitching down to visit Greek friends. On which rock did you sleep this time? I ask rather cynically, and he doesn’t disappoint either. He indicates with a vague gesture along the waterfront to a roadway: over there, just down on the little edge beneath that road there.

calli
calli
October 15, 2023 6:49 am

Anyone else got a hangover? 😀

Diogenes
Diogenes
October 15, 2023 6:50 am

seems to show Absent – Provisional – Declaration Pre-Poll not showing any numbers and my wife voted NO Pre-Poll

Not surprising as they only start counting them today.

rugbyskier
rugbyskier
October 15, 2023 6:51 am

GreyRanga, the difference in the poll results just over the border is enlightening. Canberra voted 61% Yes and Queanbeyan voted 57% No.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
October 15, 2023 6:54 am

Micheal Cheika will have a big smile on his face. An Aussie making it to the semi-finals.

JC
JC
October 15, 2023 6:55 am

No joke, this is real. Child abduction is racist.

California recently passed a new law creating an Ebony Alert, a notification system that will keep the public informed about missing Black children and young people in an effort to address the disparity in missing persons cases

JC
JC
October 15, 2023 6:55 am

whoops quotes.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 15, 2023 6:57 am

Please excuse plurals and other letters lost to faint keystrokes etc, and also Odysseus is the correct spelling in my earlier piece.

Meanwhile in other news, Argentina 29 v Wales 17.

Hairy was watching this when at a crucial phase of it the picture froze; he was pronto on the phone to the comms people here to get him (and everyone else) back up soonest, which they did. They assure us now the continuing internet issues are ‘fixed’.
He’s now watching the All Blacks after we’ve had another degustation dinner with sommelier chosen wine. I close my ears and read. Can’t say life’s hard, and we toasted the great NO win with some very good wine, supposedly matched to what we were eating.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 15, 2023 7:02 am

Now off to watch Awl Blicks v Ireland at the local boozer with Brother in Law, wearing a Waratahs jersey.

Why not wear a cocktail dress?
Less embarassing.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
October 15, 2023 7:05 am

It’s a NO Sunday and the feeling is good.

Looking forward to Outsiders comments on the great Luigi.

rugbyskier
rugbyskier
October 15, 2023 7:17 am

Jacinta Price was very impressive last night, speaking without notes and answering questions with concise answers. Contrast that with ‘Aunty Gucci’ who read off a prepared speech and wouldn’t answer questions. Peter Dutton needs to prepare Jacinta for bigger things, she needs to broaden her portfolio experience. However, the way she handled the abuse she received and responded in a good way shows she has the right stuff.

Dot
Dot
October 15, 2023 7:20 am

Brilliant try and kick from NZ, set up from a ripper long pass.

It’s nice they can score like this from absurd ruck penalties – you steal the ball (somehow, legally without an offside and you take it backwards) and you get a penalty.

Dot
Dot
October 15, 2023 7:21 am

The Sexton 🙁

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
October 15, 2023 7:23 am

I have been impressed by Price for a long time. I can only hope she is not relied on solely to improve things for aboriginals. She will need to delegate, and expect results. Chasing the evaporating money is one task, but getting actual work done on the ground is essential. Albo will start by funding the accommodation boarding school school in Alice Springs and claim the halo for doing so.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 15, 2023 7:24 am

wearing a Waratahs jersey.

BDSM bars have the rugby on?
Must be a Tory thing.

Dot
Dot
October 15, 2023 7:26 am

*Doing what all good sides do, tracking the ball*

Until you get scored against out wide.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 15, 2023 7:28 am

From Daniel Wild at the IPA. Second part of a very long letter to members:

I am tremendously proud of the research and analysis the IPA has prepared over many years on this vital topic, and on the broader matter of our national values and way of life. And I am also very proud of the team at the IPA, who has, among many other matters, been provided nation-leading research on the Voice to Parliament for many years.

It is important also to understand that the Voice is a dramatic refutation of Australia’s governing class of the corporate, media, political, and institutional elites. Never before in Australia’s history has economic, corporate, financial, and communications power been coordinated and deployed against mainstream Australians in such a manner.

At least in the early days of the referendum campaign, almost every single major corporate, media organisation, civic institution (such as places of worship), and sporting code shamelessly supported and financed the divisive race-based Voice to parliament.

All up, the Yes campaign had a war chest of some $50 million minimum.

Never forget everything that the elites tried to do to stack the deck in this referendum and to stop there being a free and fair debate.

The government gave a multimillion dollar financial free kick to the Yes campaign through favourable tax treatment.

Qantas gave free flights to Yes campaigners.

The government tried to stop the distribution of the referendum pamphlet, outlining the Yes and the No case, a tradition dating back to 1912.

And foreign big tech companies and self-appointed fact-checkers, with the backing of government, engaged in unprecedented levels of censorship.

That Australians saw through all of this should give you hope for the future.

Lastly, we should all remember that millions of our fellow countrymen and women voted Yes. And that, no doubt, the great majority of those who voted this way did so because they genuinely believed the Voice would alleviate the tragic outcomes that far too many Indigenous Australians in remote parts of the country face, just as we all do.

It is our obligation and responsibility to engage in a healing and unifying process for our nation. There is far more that unites us as Australians than divides us. The fault is not with those who voted Yes, but with the elites in Canberra who put our nation through this divisive, unnecessary, and entirely avoidable process.

Everything the IPA has done in terms of research has only been possible thanks to you and our nearly 9,000 members across Australia.

Thank you for your support – this one’s for you.

Before I let you go, I wanted to remind you of a special IPA Online Town Hall, to be held on Monday 16 October. John Roskam, Scott Hargreaves and myself will provide our insights on the Voice referendum and take your questions.

The IPA Town Hall is held over Zoom, and there are two sessions you can join – either 12-1pm, or 5-6pm (or you can attend both). You can register here. I hope you can make it.

Dot
Dot
October 15, 2023 7:29 am

Penalty try for Ireland and a yellow card for the trans Tasman gits!

Dot
Dot
October 15, 2023 7:30 am

24 – 25!

The Bungonia Bee
The Bungonia Bee
October 15, 2023 7:34 am

New NZ PM offers Tex Relief.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 15, 2023 7:36 am

It is our obligation and responsibility to engage in a healing and unifying process for our nation. 

No it isn’t.
Not if you are going to have to concede that you are a dinosaur and a dickhead with a teensy weensy waaaacist streak.
F-ck off.

The Bungonia Bee
The Bungonia Bee
October 15, 2023 7:36 am

The Victorian First Peoples Assembly will respond to The Voice referendum result soon.

Dot
Dot
October 15, 2023 7:36 am

That’s about the weakest penalty I’ve ever seen.

24 – 28

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 15, 2023 7:37 am

The “Healing Process” will mean not asking “Where did the money go, Noel?”.

The Bungonia Bee
The Bungonia Bee
October 15, 2023 7:37 am

Babylon Bee:
Emperor Hirohito calls for ceasefire after bombing of Pearl Harbour.

Dot
Dot
October 15, 2023 7:39 am

Subjecting myself to these NZ commentators won’t happen again.

rosie
rosie
October 15, 2023 7:51 am

Make yourself feel better by reading the Guardian commentary regarding the defeat of the referendum.

Dot
Dot
October 15, 2023 7:51 am

It would have been nice if they ran the ball like that 20 minutes ago.

Dot
Dot
October 15, 2023 7:55 am

Albanese wanted to end two centuries of silence, but we said no – and failed our First Nations people

Incredibly racist to ignore Lingiari, Mabo, Wyatt, McCarthy, Price, Nicholls, etc.

Dot
Dot
October 15, 2023 7:57 am

Indigenous people had asked to be seen and heard in their own continent.

Ignoring Lidia Thorpe, a lot of Aboriginal Australians voted against this! Likely a majority of them! Not 80% in favour!

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 15, 2023 8:05 am

The Victorian First Peoples Assembly will respond to The Voice referendum result soon.

Yes I see Aboriginal flags will be flown at half mast. According to something just now on the tv.
Really?

Johnny Rotten
October 15, 2023 8:07 am

“A great nation like ours can and must do better for the First Australians,” the prime minister said.

Well, Arrogant Albo, get off yer’ fat backside and do your job along with Linda “Gucci” Burney.

Accountability is the way forward so get on with it and find out where all those many, many billions of Taxpayer funded Australian Dollars are going.

Then you and the Feral Laybore Guv’ment can start to fix things.

NOW !!!!!

And that’s The Voice. Are you listening?

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 15, 2023 8:08 am

The Yes campaign simply never credited people inclining to No with reasons other than racism.

That was the stick – they were going to call you racist, and reasonable people actually dislike being called that.

The carrot, such as it was were vague emotive platitudes.

Ray Martin was being deliberately dishonest with his claim that if you don’t know you should read up – the problem was that the government was not releasing details.

A curmudgeonly has-been. Who is the dickhead and dinosaur now?

caveman
caveman
October 15, 2023 8:09 am

Yes I see Aboriginal flags will be flown at half mast.

Keep the grieving industry rolling , so much for a call of unity by that worthless Elbow.

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 15, 2023 8:10 am

Ignoring Lidia Thorpe, a lot of Aboriginal Australians voted against this! Likely a majority of them! Not 80% in favour!

I think you are on the money. No black fella here voted yes.

Razey
Razey
October 15, 2023 8:11 am

I’m just waiting to here what Shaquille O’Neal thinks of Australia disobeying him.

Razey
Razey
October 15, 2023 8:12 am

*hear !

Razey
Razey
October 15, 2023 8:13 am

The Dinosaury Dickheads won. LOL. Wonder how Martin is coping.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 15, 2023 8:13 am

I saw the start of that interview of Warren Mundine by Pat Karvelas.

Her first question was whether he regretted that he and his colleagues had run a dishonest campaign.

Spiteful bint.

Cassie of Sydney
October 15, 2023 8:20 am

I’m a very happy dickhead and dinosaur.

Cassie of Sydney
October 15, 2023 8:23 am

The Yes campaign simply never credited people inclining to No with reasons other than racism.”

Correct.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
October 15, 2023 8:24 am

Louis Litt:

Almost as inspiring as that American lady who survived an abortion who was adopted by a Christian stepmother.

IIRC the person who adopted the abortion-survivor child was in fact a Christian nurse present at the barbarity.

Megan
Megan
October 15, 2023 8:26 am

I’m a very happy dickhead and dinosaur.

Quite a lot of us dickheads and dinos about and smiling today. A majority of the country, in fact.

Will our supremely arrogant yes voting betters learn anything from this? Unlikely, a concrete mind is difficult to penetrate.

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 15, 2023 8:27 am

Clare Armstrong reporting:

A visibly shaken Anthony Albanese called on Australians to unite in finding the solutions to address Indigenous disadvantage after the resounding defeat of the historic Voice referendum.

Australians overwhelmingly rejected the referendum to enshrine an Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice in the constitution on Saturday, with all six states on track to officially reject the proposal.

At 6am (AEDT) on Sunday, the national tally stood at 60 per cent for the No vote and 40 per cent for Yes.

Tasmania, NSW, Victoria and South Australia were all called for No by Sky News Australia before counting had even begun in Queensland, Western Australia and the Northern Territory.

The ACT was the only jurisdiction firmly voting Yes.

Voters in Queensland were most against the proposal for constitutional change, with 68 per cent of votes cast for the No.

The No camp also resonated with NSW and Victoria voters, who rejected the referendum 59 per cent and 54 per cent respectively.

South Australia returned a 64 per cent vote for No, while 59 per cent of Tasmanians and 64 per cent of WA voters voted against the change.

Just 38 per cent of NT voters were in favour of the proposal.

Speaking hours after the vote was called on Saturday evening, the Prime Minister said the millions of Australians who had backed the referendum with “hope and good will” must now take the result with the “same grace and humility”.

“Tomorrow we must seek a new way forward with the same optimism,” he said.

Invoking Winston Churchill, Mr Albanese said “success is not final, failure is not fatal – it is the courage to continue that counts”.

“We intend, as a government, to do what we can to close the gap,” he said.

“To do what we can to advance reconciliation, to do what we can to listen to the First Australians.”

Mr Albanese said the government had “given their all” to the Voice, but “when you aim high, sometimes you fall short. As Prime Minister I will always take responsibility for the decisions I have taken and I will do so tonight.”

Mr Albanese said Australians must now take the country beyond the debate, without forgetting “why we had it in the first place”.

“Too often in the life of our nation, and in the political conversation, the disadvantage confronting Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people has been relegated to the margins,” he said.

“There is a new national awareness of … (Indigenous disadvantage). Let us channel that into a new sense of national purpose to find the answers.”

Yes23 campaign director Dean Parkin lamented that the Yes team had been unable to reach well-meaning Australians who had doubts about the Voice proposal.

He accused the No case of fuelling voters’ concerns with “what has been the single largest misinformation campaign this country has ever seen”.

Claims Indigenous people would take back land, raise taxes, veto government decisions and control money ran rampant on social media, despite the Yes case consistently refuting them.

Mr Parkin said some parliamentarians had “very incorrectly and dishonestly” waged a campaign that the Voice would result in division in Australia.

Opposition leader Peter Dutton defended his stance on the Voice and said “at all times” in the debate he had criticised “what I consider to have been a bad idea – to divide Australians based on their heritage or the time at which they came to our country”.

“The Coalition, all Australians, wants to see Indigenous disadvantage addressed.” he said at an event in Brisbane.

“We just disagree on the Voice being the solution.

“And while yes and no voters may hold differences of opinion, these opinions of difference do not diminish a love for our country or our regard for each other.”

Mr Dutton took aim at Mr Albanese for failing to provide detail on the Voice proposal, and said focus must return to other issues like cost of living.

“Importantly, we must also redouble our efforts to improve outcomes for Indigenous Australians in those disadvantaged communities and to Close the Gap,” he said.

“That includes an urgent need to boost law and order, to increase school attendance and employment at many remote communities.”

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 15, 2023 8:29 am

I’m a very happy dickhead and dinosaur.

Thinking about doubling up after last night’s shenanigans. Not too early? 🙂

Megan
Megan
October 15, 2023 8:30 am

Yes I see Aboriginal flags will be flown at half mast. According to something just now on the tv.
Really?

Heard it directly from Aunty Gucci’s lipsticked mouth on the livestream last night.

Looking ridiculous does not seem to be on her radar.

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 15, 2023 8:31 am

Linda Burney saying the no vote won because of misinformation. FMD

Indolent
Indolent
October 15, 2023 8:33 am

Inspirational

TheRealBiffBifford
@TBifford

This is why Poland is not afraid of Islamic jihad within its own country.

“Not one illegal immigrant in Poland. Ever”

We can be called populist, nationalists, racists. I don’t care. I care about my family and my country

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
October 15, 2023 8:34 am

Albo fails to understand that the majority of Australians ARE united, just not with him. Oh I have many short pithy emails to send to numerous pollies while I watch Outsiders this morning, first, bacon and eggs.

Dot
Dot
October 15, 2023 8:35 am

Linda Burney saying the no vote won because of misinformation. FMD

An audit can fix this up.

132andBush
132andBush
October 15, 2023 8:35 am

The Yes campaign simply never credited people inclining to No with reasons other than racism.”

Correct.

We are all racists now.
At least I know I’m in good company.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 15, 2023 8:35 am

rugbyskier
Oct 15, 2023 7:17 AM
Jacinta Price was very impressive last night, speaking without notes and answering questions with concise answers. Contrast that with ‘Aunty Gucci’ who read off a prepared speech and wouldn’t answer questions. Peter Dutton needs to prepare Jacinta for bigger things, she needs to broaden her portfolio experience. However, the way she handled the abuse she received and responded in a good way shows she has the right stuff.

Dutton needs her in indig affairs until at least after the next election, to straighten the mess out.

rugbyskier
rugbyskier
October 15, 2023 8:35 am

If Luigi and Aunty Gucci think that labeling voters gullible and prone to believing lies is a winning strategy, fill your boots and keep it up until the next election.

Alamak!
October 15, 2023 8:38 am

Linda Burney saying the no vote won because of misinformation

FTFY -> Linda Burney saying the no vote won because of missing information

Miltonf
Miltonf
October 15, 2023 8:39 am

So has the abuse of the electorate started yet? You know the usual gaggle of dons and germalists calling us racist, redneck, uneducated etc etc. Cassie is right in saying that the hope for and goodness in this country is in the outer suburbs and the regions. Proud to live in a tradie electorate in vicco with a big no majority.

Cassie of Sydney
October 15, 2023 8:39 am

Last night was the real statement from the heart, a statement from the heart of ordinary Australians….

NO.

Toodeloo Uluru!

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 15, 2023 8:39 am

The ACT was the only jurisdiction firmly voting Yes.

Voting for more bureaucracy and a bigger gravy train.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 15, 2023 8:41 am

Invoking Winston Churchill, Mr Albanese said “success is not final, failure is not fatal – it is the courage to continue that counts”.

LOL. He “Fights Torries”, but invokes the memory of Churchill.

Miltonf
Miltonf
October 15, 2023 8:43 am

As for Canbra, the numbers say it all. Not fit to govern this great nation. Tenth rate Marxist incompetent mediocrities.

Cassie of Sydney
October 15, 2023 8:43 am

Where’s our pervert apologist? Note his silence?

All week he’s been silent on massacred Jewish babies, children, men and women.

Last night he was silent on the referendum result. I remember how he defecated here the night the Liberals lost Aston in April. Actually, that Aston result allowed Dutton to regroup and take charge.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 15, 2023 8:44 am

Mr Albanese said the government had “given their all” to the Voice

They gave our all – not just money but other resources and powers entrusted to them to work for all of us, not just 40%.

And people are still struggling to make ends meet.

I think some people had hoped that once they got this Voice thing out of their system they might start trying to help.

Me? I think they should continue helping – getting themselves (through ineptitude and transparent political play) thrown out.

Crossie
Crossie
October 15, 2023 8:49 am

I have posted this on the vote thread but think it could be added here as well.

Has anybody considered that the high NO vote in NT and other electorates with large numbers of aboriginal voters may actually have been a vote against the Head Men who own and control everything in traditional aboriginal communities? Could it have been a vote for democracy and against authoritarianism?

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 15, 2023 8:54 am

Has anybody considered that the high NO vote in NT and other electorates with large numbers of aboriginal voters may actually have been a vote against the Head Men who own and control everything in traditional aboriginal communities? Could it have been a vote for democracy and against authoritarianism?

Entirely correct Crossie.

bons
bons
October 15, 2023 8:54 am

Humility is not a Marrickville trait.

It is obvious that he is going to ignore the result.

Australia is just a big inner city Party branch eh Albo. And you know how to deal with those Torries, don’t ya Mate?

God, he is awful. Slapper in pants.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 15, 2023 8:55 am

As for Canbra, the numbers say it all.

Indeed. The one jurisdiction which sits like a great fat spider that devours untold of our money and sprays out unending streams of web to ensnare and bind the rest of us.

To them the Voice was appealing. Spending, laws, regulations, lawyers, court cases – very much their vision for Australia.

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 15, 2023 8:57 am

Now I will put here Tim Blair’s round up of all things referendum.
Part one

Dot
Dot
October 15, 2023 8:59 am

God, he is awful. Slapper in pants.

LOL

With less testosterone.

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 15, 2023 8:59 am

Deux Ash Gardner hardest hit

MatrixTransform
October 15, 2023 8:59 am

Crossie, I was just looking at the zoomable map on the Guardian site and noted to the missus the same inverse proportion

I may have mentioned here before that my BiL is Koorie … and the kids.

My sister’s complaint about the rivers of money?

she says, “Oh, we aren’t the type of Koorie that sees any of that”

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 15, 2023 9:00 am
H B Bear
H B Bear
October 15, 2023 9:03 am

Linda Burney saying the no vote won because of misinformation. FMD

Reeks of cope.

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 15, 2023 9:03 am

Our seat of Mallee voted 78 percent no. That’s a reaming of the highest order.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 15, 2023 9:04 am

‘DAMAGE HE HAS DONE’: Growing calls for Albo to resign as Prime Minister

The immediate impact to Anthony Albanese’s political future has become a major talking point after Australia resoundingly voted No.

Anthony Albanese’s political opponents are calling for the PM to resign over the Voice referendum failure for the “damage he has done”.

Sky News host Andrew Bolt suggested the Prime Minister “should go” for subjecting Australia to the “poison” of the referendum during a fiery clash over the fallout of the Yes wipe out.

“I just wonder now how he can continue as Prime Minister.

He’s put us through this nightmare and wasted nearly $400 million of taxpayers money, putting Australians at each other’s throats.

“And unfortunately the poison from all this will survive.”

In The Australian, columnist Simon Benson wrote the consequences for Albanese are “unknown”.

“Failure of the referendum doesn’t necessarily go to fatality of leadership,” Benson wrote.

“But the question is whether there is a residual effect that goes to a broader issue of political competence and judgment.

“Is what has been exposed by the Voice reveal something endemic about how Albanese deals with the big issues?”

– The PM is ‘damaged by this’ – ABC – Speers said on ABC News Breakfast.

– Racism ‘part of the story’ – ABC – Indigenous ABC journalist and presenter Dan Bourchier

– Indigenous ‘disunity’ a factor – ABC – Patricia Karvelas

– Gina Rinehart celebrates

– The world reacts

– ‘Reconciliation is dead’ – Marcia Langton – NO Voters are Stupid & Racist

Anthony Mundine unleashes

Indigenous former footballer Anthony Mundine, an outspoken opponent of the Voice, has unleashed in an extraordinary rant on social media.

Mundine took to Instagram to celebrate the defeat of the referendum, which he bizarrely claimed would have “enslaved humanity”.

“I’m just disappointed that a lot of people … that I thought that sold out, got paid to push this yes campaign that divided friends and family,” Mundine said in an Instagram story.

“I want Australia to walk as one, white and black … no matter what you are.

But this was nothing about that.”

From the Comments

– Just imagine what that money could have meant to everyone, housing, medical, education, you name. A complete and utter waste and for what!?

– Yes voters, spitting the dummy and running home to mommy!

– Albo is to blame for the loss.

This was an expensive failure.

He should be made accountable for wasting tax payers money. If he was the head of a Public company who just wasted that amount of money on a proposal that was not only doomed to fail but also restulted in more division within the company, he would be voted out in a heartbeat. This is no different.

– Why only a week? Silence from you moralizers sounds fantastic

– Albo and Burney must resign over this racism and threat to our democracy.

– can we now focus on the cost of living problems which the labour gov promised life would be easier under Albo, the diversion is over.

shatterzzz
October 15, 2023 9:04 am

Gotta feel for the gucci gnome .. waking up this morning and realising that tomorrow she’s expected to, actually, do some bloody work as the, $ 400 grand a year, 251 minister …… and she hasn’t got a clue where to start …!

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 15, 2023 9:05 am

Burney virtually unsighted as the campaign proceeded. Not a vote of confidence.

rugbyskier
rugbyskier
October 15, 2023 9:07 am

Outsiders played the video of the Israeli flag burner’s self-immolation and then cut to Nationals Senator Bridget McKenzie who was still laughing about it.

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 15, 2023 9:08 am

Grayndler 74 percent yes.
Wentworth 62 percent yes
McMahon 63 percent no.
Sydney 71 percent yes.

According to AEC via Tim Blair

Dot
Dot
October 15, 2023 9:09 am

Mundine took to Instagram to celebrate the defeat of the referendum, which he bizarrely claimed would have “enslaved humanity”.

No.

Perhaps he realises what sit down money does and earnt his money, unlike Noosa Noel.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 15, 2023 9:09 am

Curtin remained true to its Teal roots. Maybe they will ask the guy who does the hedges why? Canberra shows why it remains Australia’s greatest ever mistake and purely administrative capitals are ALWAYS a bad idea.

Dot
Dot
October 15, 2023 9:10 am

Outsiders played the video of the Israeli flag burner’s self-immolation and then cut to Nationals Senator Bridget McKenzie who was still laughing about it.

Holy red cow I may need some context over here.

Dot
Dot
October 15, 2023 9:11 am

We should have had a rotating capital or a confederation.

What a waste of nice, idyllic farmland.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 15, 2023 9:12 am

Que?

Exiting NZ PM Chris Hipkins thanks new partner Toni in concession speech

Shortly after NZ elected a new Prime Minister, one small detail in Chris Hipkins’ concession speech set tongues wagging across the nation.

A love scandal has rocked New Zealand’s general election on Saturday night as the country took to Google to find out: Who is Toni?

In former PM Christopher Hipkins’ concession speech he thanked his children and then thanked his new partner Toni, whose existence had been kept quiet during the campaign.

During Covid, Hipkins’ relationship with his wife of 15 years broke down, not long after they got married in 2020.

Since then, NZ thought their PM was single. However, that quick thank you had Kiwis racing to Google.

The search term Toni skyrocketed on Saturday night with hundreds of people trying to find out exactly who Toni is.

The search for Tony also went through the roof, with Kiwis apparently wondering if their PM had found love with a man.

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 15, 2023 9:12 am

Watson 58 percent no.
Albo and Burke should really resign for courting the Islamic vote.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 15, 2023 9:12 am

– Indigenous ‘disunity’ a factor – ABC – Patricia Karvelas

PK gets it. Albo won’t be the only one with problems after Saturday night.

Dot
Dot
October 15, 2023 9:13 am

Toni Pearen? She was very cute but is married and retired!

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 15, 2023 9:14 am

Our seat of Mallee voted 78 percent no.

My electorate of Hunter was 71% no and next door Shortland 60% no.

Just to illustrate what that means Hunter has been held for Labor since 1910 and Shortland has always been Labor.

Increasingly politics is becoming woke progressives versus the rest.

Entropy
Entropy
October 15, 2023 9:15 am

Canberra bureaucrats were always going to vote for more bureaucracy.

rugbyskier
rugbyskier
October 15, 2023 9:16 am

Dot, there’s a video doing the rounds of a group of pro-Hamas demonstrators burning an Israeli flag and the wind turns the flames onto the bloke holding the flag, who is last seen exiting stage right with his pants literally on fire.

As Rowan Dean said, it proves God has a sense of humour.

MatrixTransform
October 15, 2023 9:17 am

on the cusp
Isaacs, Vic
yeah: 50.75
nah: 49.25

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 15, 2023 9:18 am

Increasingly politics is becoming woke progressives versus the rest.

Yep, Left v Right won’t give you the answer but it’s still a useful starting point. Asset rich, middle class voters aren’t always what they seem.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 15, 2023 9:20 am

Anger, tears, blame – and a thundering message to Australia: How the Yes campaign reacted to crushing Voice defeat – with Aboriginal elders warning: ‘We now know where we stand in our own country’


. Yes campaigners were overcome with emotion on Saturday
. The Indigenous Voice to Parliament referendum failed in every state
. Key figures slammed the No campaign as ‘lying to the public’

Comments Very Unkind to the Idiots above

sfw
sfw
October 15, 2023 9:23 am

The nursing agency that my wife works for just told her that in the NT the gov has changed the conditions of employment and nurses there will no longer get overtime, all hours will be paid at the normal rate, no matter how many they do. The gov says this is due to finances and they have to save money. Labor is in power in the NT, and they’re cutting wages, things must be getting pretty bad there.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
October 15, 2023 9:24 am

Kennedy 81 no – 19 Yes
Herbert (My normal residence) 75 No – 25 yes
Maranoa a whipping 84 no – 16 yes

What the hell happened in WA? Thought they would have had some electorates in the 80’s.

Gilas
Gilas
October 15, 2023 9:25 am

Good morning, on this stunning post-Referendum Sunday!!

Like a few Cats, I spent 10 hours, as the sole NOer, at the polling booth yesterday.
Thankfully just 1 hour scrutineering in one of 48 booths in the division of Blaxland.

Arrived early, introduced myself to the AEC Officer-in-charge, set up and planted myself on the best access point, at the time…
YESsers eventually arrived, with chair, boxes and corflutes displaying the usual lies of their campaign.
More exhausting than envisaged, handing out the HTVs in a large access area with multiple entries and a wide “6-metre” exclusion zone (more like 20 metres), while keeping an eye on the YESsers (5 of them, at one stage) who eventually repositioned themselves around, to try to neutralize my message on the approaching voter, while maximizing theirs.
By early afternoon, they placed one closer to the voters’ queues, where they could ask the voter if they had any questions. A luxury that I didn’t have.
Several low-or-no information voters did, and I’m sure that it decided their vote.

Even thought of notifying the AEC Officer about potential encroachment into the exclusion area, but my placement was also potentially dodgy, so stayed schtum, quietly seething instead.

On a day of low activity at this booth, when compared to prior elections, I still ran out of the HTV cards I was given. Thank you, NO organizers!
Improvisation and invention, with what was left, then kicked in.

Many thumb-ups and winks from supporters of NO. Many dirty looks and even a “You are racist!” from the brainwashed.
But it was a beautiful day, civility reigned supreme, even from the YES spruikers.

Scrutineering was quick and easy, the AEC staff pleasant and professional, even though they knew I was a NOer.
ALL was done from, and to, pen and paper. Not a laptop anywhere.
Here, YES won by a small margin (51% to 47%), so, an anxious train ride home.

But what a fantastic result in the end!
As usual, the Cat picked it like a nose.

lotocoti
lotocoti
October 15, 2023 9:25 am

96.4% indigenous Cherbourg:
Yes – 142
No – 101
GFY – 1

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 15, 2023 9:28 am

2022-2023 Porsche Taycan electric car recalled due to fire risk

The high-performance Porsche Taycan electric car is being recalled in Australia because the batteries could catch fire due to a manufacturing fault.

Risk of a fire has triggered a recall of the Porsche Taycan electric car in Australia.

The 231 affected vehicles are stamped Model Years 2022-2023. All variants are impacted by the recall.

“Due to a manufacturing issue, there is a possibility of insufficient sealing between the high voltage battery casing and battery cover,” the recall notice says.

“This could lead to moisture entering the high voltage battery … If a sufficient amount of moisture enters the high-voltage battery arcing can occur, which increases the risk of fire causing injury or death to vehicle occupants, other road users or bystanders.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 15, 2023 9:29 am

Good work Gilas. As I said to my (Solmalian) support worker, always a pleasure to vote without being shot at.

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 15, 2023 9:29 am

Where’s our pervert apologist? Note his silence?

It’s well noted Cassie. Remember how he came in and gloated about Trump and Labor and whatever else turned him on and said “we’ve had a good couple of days”?
Nowhere to be seen except for his downticks. I guess “his lot” aren’t doing well.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 15, 2023 9:32 am

Post Malmo it is fair to say mUnty is quite careful when he makes an appearance.

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 15, 2023 9:32 am

Burney virtually unsighted as the campaign proceeded. Not a vote of confidence.

You get the feeling Bear that she will be thrown under the bus. Albo will blame everyone except himself

bons
bons
October 15, 2023 9:34 am

Gilas. Eleventy, you deserve a special mention.
I would not have survived on my own as you did.
Respect Sir. Have a luxurious sleep-in and demand to be pampered.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 15, 2023 9:36 am

Black Ball
Oct 15, 2023 9:08 AM
Grayndler 74 percent yes.

Grayndler will fall to the Slime next time.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 15, 2023 9:36 am

BB – we’ll see. There will be more than a few interesting meetings over Sunday coffees you suspect.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 15, 2023 9:36 am

This would be a good opportunity to focus on some of the dodgy practices of the Yes23 campaign while the majority No voters are still stinging from the trickery and abuse levelled at them.

One thing would be to call out corporations that squandered shareholders money on Yes. You would address the corporations but would be talking to the shareholders. It would actually be up to them to call the boards to account.

And not just the money spent. There is the impact on brand which would also have a financial impact. Qantas shareholders know their brand has taken a hit (well, another).

It would also spare us all the free advertising progressive causes get.

Dutton? Who is the shadow minister to bring this up?

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 15, 2023 9:38 am

Dot
Oct 15, 2023 9:11 AM
We should have had a rotating capital or a confederation.

What a waste of nice, idyllic farmland.

Idyllic? It’s scorching and dry in summer and freezing in winter. The original description, “A good sheep station ruined”, still applies. Actual agriculture, not so much.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 15, 2023 9:39 am

Still a lot of Polling to be counted – “Polling Place Counts Completed” – a lot of NO

updates for today a few – will keep an eye on my Electorate Mackellar

https://tallyroom.aec.gov.au/ReferendumUpdatedByDivision-29581.htm

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 15, 2023 9:40 am

Black Ball
Oct 15, 2023 9:12 AM
Watson 58 percent no.
Albo and Burke should really resign for courting the Islamic vote.

What influence did the sight of the aboriginal flags in last week’s demonstrations have?

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 15, 2023 9:40 am

One thing would be to call out corporations that squandered shareholders money on Yes. You would address the corporations but would be talking to the shareholders. It would actually be up to them to call the boards to account.

That should be left self regulating. Richard Goyder might wish it wasn’t so.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 15, 2023 9:40 am

Does this mean there will be no more “Welcome to Country?”

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 15, 2023 9:42 am

Bruce of N

Increasingly politics is becoming woke progressives versus the rest.

AKA the Great Reset, but there are more of the rest than there are woke progressives (should be spelled “regressives”).

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 15, 2023 9:44 am

Grayndler will fall to the Slime next time.

You suspect Albo will be the last Liar member (for how long?). Plibbers too in her seat.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 15, 2023 9:45 am
Black Ball
Black Ball
October 15, 2023 9:47 am

What influence did the sight of the aboriginal flags in last week’s demonstrations have?

I would think a lot Boambee John. Any undecided voters after seeing that had their mind made up for them.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 15, 2023 9:49 am

That should be left self regulating.

Definitely. Between share holders and boards.

Last thing I would recommend is further government intervention.

Just that someone with a high profile could, so to speak, fire a starter’s pistol for shareholders.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 15, 2023 9:50 am

Jacinta Price was the face of the Voice No campaign. And now – as she stands by Peter Dutton’s side at a victorious press conference – Coalition supporters say SHE should be running the show

. Australians voted No to the Voice
. Peter Dutton and Jacinta Price held a conference
. Voters called for Price to lead the Opposition

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 15, 2023 9:50 am

Should Anthony Albanese resign following the Voice referendum defeat?

Currently 95% YES

After all that he may finally triumph with a YES vote.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 15, 2023 9:51 am

I would think a lot Boambee John. Any undecided voters after seeing that had their mind made up for them.

BB – a lot of goodwill to aboriginal people has been lost. Thomas Mayo is not Charlie Perkins.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 15, 2023 9:52 am

Does this mean there will be no more “Welcome to Country?”

WTC vaporised by a Directed Electoral Weapon?

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
October 15, 2023 9:54 am

Jacinta Nampijinpa Price is a humble magnificent human being. She will not fall for the calls for her to be leader — she is not ready, she is only 42 and has time on her side. Peter Dutton and David Littleproud let her shine, to be the beacon but I do not yet want her to be in any leadership position. I want her to oversee the accountability for the 30-40billion spent over decades making not the slightest difference to the outcomes for our aboriginal brothers and sisters in remote and regional communities. God bless Jacinta.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 15, 2023 9:54 am

Australia has said NO loud and clear to the Voice, writes JACINTA NAMPIJINPA PRICE. Now we must turn last night’s result into a a great opportunity

Jacinta Nampijinpa Price shares message to Australia

One together, not two divided.

That’s the message you have sent loud and clear.

Australians have used their democratic voice to choose unity over division.

We have affirmed a nation where we tackle our problems together.

Side by side, as one. Not separated in our Constitution. Not divided by race.

This has been a long and bruising campaign and I heard over and over again from Australians that they just wanted this over and done with.

They’re sick of the division, they’re sick of feeling guilty, sick of being lectured to.

Finally, they’ve been able to have their say through our democratic process and they’ve said ‘no’.

No to those who want to treat Aboriginal people differently.

No to those who want to treat Aboriginal disadvantage as something that’s permanent.

No to those who profit from casting Indigenous Australians as victims, powerless, incapable of being helped without special treatment.

It’s important to understand, though, that the No to those things turns tonight’s result into a ‘yes’.

Not a vacuous ‘yes’ to silly ideas about ‘making history’.

But a ‘yes’ to practical solutions that bring us together as a united people.

A ‘yes’ to politicians from the Prime Minister on down – including me – doing our jobs and making sure the money being spent to help is actually going where it needs to go.

‘Yes’ to a new approach to tackling Indigenous disadvantage where we are about making sure kids go to school and adults go to work.

Where we focus on keeping women and children safe.

And where we understand that Aboriginal people are Australians – human beings – who want exactly the kinds of things we want for all Australians.

I understand many Australians will be disappointed with the result.

But this is an opportunity.

Because I mean it when I say it’s our chance to be united and practical.

And I’m looking forward to working with all Australians in a future where we tackle problems together, not divided any more but united as one together.

Cassie of Sydney
October 15, 2023 9:54 am

“What influence did the sight of the aboriginal flags in last week’s demonstrations have?”

I don’t think it went unnoticed.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 15, 2023 9:54 am

Just that someone with a high profile could, so to speak, fire a starter’s pistol for shareholders.

If you want to fire a gun try asset advisors, shareholder services firms and superannuation fund trustees. Plenty of targets there to be getting on with.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 15, 2023 9:57 am

Daily Tele.

Hollywood legend Sir Michael Caine, 90, retires from acting after seven decades

Acting legend Sir Michael Caine has confirmed he will finally leave his chosen profession at the age of 90, with his next film his last.

Cassie of Sydney
October 15, 2023 9:59 am

Thomas Mayo is not Charlie Perkins.

Correct, whether you liked him or not, Charlie Perkins experienced real racism.

I would also add that Australians, as evident by the votes yesterday, saw right through the far-left Marxist Langtons, Mayos, Stewarts and others. They knew the Voice was subversive.

The Voice had nothing to do with “healing”, it was “harming”.

Yesterday we chose the Jacinta Price road. I’m so proud of my fellow Australians.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
October 15, 2023 9:59 am

Thomas Mayo is not Charlie Perkins.

Charlie Perkins had at least direct Aboriginal heritage — if I am not mistaken Thomas Mayo’s claims to aboriginal heritage has apparently been called into question – don’t know is this claim is true

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 15, 2023 10:02 am

Speaking of Thomas Mayo
What an arsehole.

Miltonf
Miltonf
October 15, 2023 10:02 am

Me too Cassie. It wouldn’t take much to get this great country moving in the right direction. It’s the political media class that prevents this.

Megan
Megan
October 15, 2023 10:04 am

Tenth rate Marxist incompetent mediocrities.

Far too kind.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
October 15, 2023 10:04 am

It’s the political media class that prevents this.

. The enemy of the people is the media, particularly the ABfnC

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 15, 2023 10:07 am

The enemy of the people is the media, particularly the ABfnC

Expect we haven’t heard the last of that.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 15, 2023 10:07 am

Outsiders showing clips of the local Hamas operative from their ABC.
Wearing his lapel badge of entwined Aboriginal and Pali flags.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 15, 2023 10:08 am

I don’t think Jacinta should be PM.

Not yet anyway.

She performed admirably on the issue of the referendum. She showed strength and character throughout against some very vile attacks. And, as a bonus, she was likeable.

But so far she has shone on an area with which she is intimately familiar. She should be rotated through some other portfolios to gain experience and then we can see how she performs.

I hope they don’t treat her like she belongs in Indigenous affairs merely because she is indigenous.

I would love to see the ABC squirm if she became Foreign Minister, travelling abroad as the first Aboriginal representative of Australia. All of us.

The ABC should, according to how they present themselves, be stoked. But they will never be able to forgive her for her political complexion.

They will be convinced that accolade legitimately belongs to one of their mob, Labor or Green, with 1/16 blood and who will cavort around the globe telling everyone how racist and disgraceful Australia is.

Miltonf
Miltonf
October 15, 2023 10:09 am

I believe tv was one of the worst inventions of the 20th century. Not called the idiot box for nothing.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 15, 2023 10:09 am

Coming to Australia Under Labor/Greens AlboSleezy & Blackout Bowen

New York Refuses To Give More Money For Offshore Wind Projects As Cheap “Green” Myth Implodes

The New York state authorities have rejected a request by Orsted, BP, and Equinor for raising the price of electricity in future power purchase contracts featuring offshore wind energy.

Offshore wind developers have been pressured by rising raw material and component costs, and higher borrowing costs, which has cast doubt over the viability of many projects. Indeed, Reuters reported that some projects planned for the waters off the coast of New York may need to be reconsidered in light of the authorities’ decision.

“Sunrise Wind’s viability and therefore ability to be constructed are extremely challenged without this adjustment,” Orsted told Reuters.

Sunrise Wind is an offshore project with a planned capacity of 924 MW that could supply electricity to 600,000 households. According to Orsted, it would also involve several hundred million dollars in investments in the state and 800 jobs.

“These projects must be financially sustainable to proceed,” the president of Equinor Renewables Americas told Reuters, referring to the offshore wind projects the Norwegian energy major is leading in the U.S.

Per Reuters, Equinor is involved in three projects with BP—the 816 MW Empire Wind 1 and the 1.26 GW Empire Wind 2, as well as the Beacon Wind farm, with a projected capacity of 1.23 GW.

Indeed, rising costs have compromised the financial sustainability of many wind power projects and earlier this year led to the cancellation of a large-scale one off the coast of the UK.

Swedish Vattenfall, which led the Norfolk Boreas project, said it would quit it after it saw costs rise by 40%, which made the project unviable.

To tackle the rising cost problem, wind developers have turned to governments, asking for additional tax incentives and higher electricity prices, busting the myth of cheap wind power.

The New York Public Service Commission said that if they had agreed to do what the wind developers wanted, that would have added 6.7% to New Yorkers’ electricity bills, which are already among the highest in the State.

bons
bons
October 15, 2023 10:10 am

Rowen doing a good job of ripping their ABC for their pro-Hamas propaganda.
Australia can never be democratic as long as the ABC marxist presidium exists.
It has gone beyond annoyance for me. Action is needed.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
October 15, 2023 10:10 am

Quick run through the www as I have a slow morning.

Most publications from ME to Europe the Americas and Asia have lumped the 2 stories of NZ’s change in Government and the referendum defeat side by side. Some outlets only mentioning NZ.

It’s over, there is no or never was any reputational risk. The rest of the world doesn’t give a siht and if NZ didn’t have such a dramatic change in Government I reckon some of the outlets wouldn’t have even bothered covering.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 15, 2023 10:11 am

don’t know is this claim is true

“Dark Emu Exposed” came to the same conclusions.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 15, 2023 10:12 am

Good TV is great. Bad TV is awful. FTA is just going through its candlestick makers phase, which doesn’t help.

Dot
Dot
October 15, 2023 10:13 am

It’s scorching and dry in summer and freezing in winter.

A coastie definitely wrote that.

The thing is, crops need seasons to work properly!

Despite global boiling enthusiasts’ claims, they still operate like clockwork at Canberry.

JC
JC
October 15, 2023 10:15 am

sfw
Oct 15, 2023 9:23 AM

The nursing agency that my wife works for just told her that in the NT the gov has changed the conditions of employment and nurses there will no longer get overtime, all hours will be paid at the normal rate, no matter how many they do. The gov says this is due to finances and they have to save money. Labor is in power in the NT, and they’re cutting wages, things must be getting pretty bad there.

Sounds great. Overtime in the US (as I recall) used to mean MORE HOURS WORKED, and you got paid at the regular contracted rate. If only.

Dot
Dot
October 15, 2023 10:17 am

there’s a video doing the rounds of a group of pro-Hamas demonstrators burning an Israeli flag and the wind turns the flames onto the bloke holding the flag, who is last seen exiting stage right with his pants literally on fire

He was knocked out of Who Wants to be The 12th Imam.

JC
JC
October 15, 2023 10:18 am

Does anyone think what occurred in Israel and then the Sydney Opera house have any impact on the vote with the undecideds? I suspect it did, as it showed what can occur when people are divided in some way.

alwaysright
alwaysright
October 15, 2023 10:21 am

I have some nicely cooked crow for the MSM to eat.

Cassie of Sydney
October 15, 2023 10:21 am

Albo is now drowning in his own pool of tears.

Dot
Dot
October 15, 2023 10:21 am

WOW, JUST WOW.

https://tippinsights.com/bidenflation-climbs-to-17-0-hurting-americans/

Look at the table of CPI and their calculated inflation rates, and the differences.

Cassie of Sydney
October 15, 2023 10:22 am

Yes, JC.

JC
JC
October 15, 2023 10:23 am

there’s a video doing the rounds of a group of pro-Hamas demonstrators burning an Israeli flag and the wind turns the flames onto the bloke holding the flag, who is last seen exiting stage right with his pants literally on fire

I put up the vid a few days ago. Yes, there is a God! Funny as, seeing the moron dropping the flag and bolting.

Here again

https://www.facebook.com/CalvaryStudioMinistry/videos/video-prayer-for-peace-man-catch-fire-while-burning-israel-flag/3762400870537107/

Freaking moron.

Black Ball
Black Ball
October 15, 2023 10:25 am
Roger
Roger
October 15, 2023 10:27 am

Does anyone think what occurred in Israel and then the Sydney Opera house have any impact on the vote with the undecideds?

It certainly didn’t help Yes.

People instinctively shy away from change during uncertain times.

But I believe the cost of living had already focused minds on the merits of the proposal with the result that the referendum was always going to be lost.

One Labor luminary & pollster, Kon Samaras (VIC ALP), publicly said during the campaign that Albanese made a critical mistake with his timing – it was a project for a second term Labor government that had weathered the economic crisis and was pitching the idea to a more optimistic public.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 15, 2023 10:34 am

Warren Mundine not happy with the journalists.

With good reason. PK needs to keep an eye over her shoulder. Lucky she works at the ALPBC. Ita has her back.

Roger
Roger
October 15, 2023 10:35 am

Increasingly politics is becoming woke progressives versus the rest.

You’d have thought 2019 would have been a sufficient dose of reality for Labor.

‘Born to rule’ runs deeply within their veins.

Makka
Makka
October 15, 2023 10:36 am

OldOzzie
Oct 15, 2023 9:54 AM

Thanks OldOzzie.

This woman, Jacinta Price, is destined for big things and not just in the Indigenous space. But Dutton has to get her and the LNP into power first. It starts with plain speaking, just like her. I want to hear Dutton call out the climate scam that is ruining the country and what he intends to do about wasteful Govt spending. Just plain speaking not long winded slogans full of bs.

One thing Dutton has to understand is that the conservatives voters of Australia liked what they heard from Price. Because she showed backbone and conviction in plain speaking- devoid of feelz and bs. The LNP has to learn from that or they remain fkd.

local oaf
October 15, 2023 10:37 am

I’m tempted to think that possibly, the Voice was never meant to succeed.

Albo and the Yessers did absolutely everything they could to patronise, mock, insult and abuse Australians.

Indigenous affairs has always been considered a poisoned chalice. With the failure of the Voice, Labor is now free from any responsibility to achieve anything for indigenous people.
Labor from now on – “Terrible poverty and disadvantage of aboriginals? Don’t blame us, we made a heroic effort to fix everything. Blame the evil racist Liberals who stopped us from succeeding.”

Also a massive bonus for the trot, huge amount of division, distrust, friction and hatred in the community.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 15, 2023 10:38 am

Rockdoctor at10:10

It’s over, there is no or never was any reputational risk.

There never is. The Bunyip Aristocracy pumping up their own tyres as usual.

flyingduk
flyingduk
October 15, 2023 10:39 am

Our seat of Mallee voted 78 percent no. That’s a reaming of the highest order.

1) We did
2) You’re welcome

  1. In the image of the heroic John Curtin, who apparently ‘saved Australia’ by demanding the withdrawal of two of the…

  2. The power to name a place denotes authority  I hereby declare the place formerly known as Melbourne, Bearbrass, or Naarm…

1.2K
0
Oh, you think that, do you? Care to put it on record?x
()
x