Open Thread – Wed 18 Oct 2023


Office Prince Clemens von Metternich, Anon, 1829

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rosie
rosie
October 18, 2023 11:30 am

What are odds hamas ‘home made’ rockets have a hundred percent strike rate against professional manufactured munitions which don’t?

Robert Sewell
October 18, 2023 11:31 am

Dot

Oct 17, 2023 9:03 PM
They only need to make a credible threat to nuke the top 5 cities.

Hey, don’t talk crazy.

Dot, tell me what’s wrong with that approach instead of throwing nukes around like far too many here want to do.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 18, 2023 11:31 am

Sounds like a distinction without a difference. Where’s Chips Rafferty to explain?

Makka
Makka
October 18, 2023 11:32 am

Khalissee
@Kahlissee
BREAKING: IRANIAN FOREIGN MINISTER AMIR ABDOLLAHIAN ARRIVES IN SAUDI ARABIA

https://twitter.com/Kahlissee/status/1714435113423954210

P
P
October 18, 2023 11:33 am

Saint Luke, the Evangelist

On October 18, Catholics and other Christians around the world will celebrate the feast of St. Luke, the physician and companion of St. Paul whose gospel preserved the most extensive biography of Jesus Christ.

St. Luke wrote a greater volume of the New Testament than any other single author, including the earliest history of the Church.

Educated as a physician in the Greek-speaking city, Luke was among the most cultured and cosmopolitan members of the early Church. Scholars of archeology and ancient literature have ranked him among the top historians of his time period, besides noting the outstanding Greek prose style and technical accuracy of his accounts of Christ’s life and the apostles’ missionary journeys.

Luke was also among the only companions of Paul who did not abandon him during his final imprisonment and death in Rome.

CNA

C.L.
C.L.
October 18, 2023 11:37 am

The Israeli spokesman starts off mild and fairly scripted, but when the Sky news hysterical bint oversteps he eventually goes her.
Comments under the vid are devastating.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1f0youDkhk

What a psychotic piece of garbage. Her hatred for Jews is visceral. She often looks to be on the verge of wetting herself with rage.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 18, 2023 11:37 am

Ding ding ding ding!

I think that one warrants a full on …

Bing Bong!
BING BONG!

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
October 18, 2023 11:40 am

I think we should rename Canberra.
An indig name for the district but it was chosen by white men and is now sullied by the genocidal colonial regime that has subjugated the original owners of this country for over a hundred years.

PluckaDuck is my pick.

It captures the very essence of the place.

Roger
Roger
October 18, 2023 11:40 am

BREAKING: IRANIAN FOREIGN MINISTER AMIR ABDOLLAHIAN ARRIVES IN SAUDI ARABIA

Saudi Arabia…yet not a single kaffiyeh in sight?

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 18, 2023 11:40 am

Dr Faustus
Oct 17, 2023 3:35 PM

Barcaldine <20% Yes.

Ha. Not so much as a Leaving Certificate amongst the lot of them…

Dr Faustus,

don’t knock the Leaving Certificate it won me a Commonwealth Scholarship to Sydney Uni

How ever according to Labor/Greens/TEAL & Australian Business Elites and Multiple Elite Australian Journalists & TV personalities, notwithstanding the Leaving Certifciate

I am an Uneducated Dickhead Dinosaur Stupid Racist (Thanks Ray Martin, Marcia Langton & Waleed Aly) who read Document 14, pages 87-112 of the ULURU STATEMENT FROM THE HEART on which Voice was based, unlike YES Labor Australian PM Airbus Albo who only read one page – Who is the Uneducated One?

PS https://www.skynews.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/Credlin-Editorial-PDF-2.pdfDocument 14 Pages 87-112

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 18, 2023 11:41 am

m0nty
Oct 18, 2023 10:41 AM
Why is Labor so besotted with the Democrats then?

The Hawker Britton wing of the party should be cleared out in the wake of the Voice failure. NSW Labor is full of drongoes.

The Vicco-communist wing, OTOH, is full of brilliant polliars.

Robert Sewell
October 18, 2023 11:45 am

Feelthebern:

So the paragliders weren’t part of the “official” Hamas operation?
Who killed 250 party goers.
Pull the other one.

“These people lie.”
They lie without even really thinking about it. It’s a social reflex with them. They lie even when it doesn’t matter, and they have no shame at being caught out.

C.L.
C.L.
October 18, 2023 11:46 am
lotocoti
lotocoti
October 18, 2023 11:47 am

when the Sky news hysterical bint oversteps …

What did she think she was going to get?
A Colonel Jessupish bit of self incrimination?

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 18, 2023 11:48 am

The Hawker Britton wing of the party should be cleared out in the wake of the Voice failure. NSW Labor is full of drongoes.

The Judean Peoples Front has spoken. Quite topical really.

alwaysright
alwaysright
October 18, 2023 11:48 am

Victoria bans the Nazi salute.

Look, up there, is a bird? is it a plane? it is Superman!

That’s gotta stop.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 18, 2023 11:48 am

m0nty
Oct 18, 2023 10:49 AM
As for Gym Jordan as Speaker, the Republican Party is continuing its strong association with rock spiders.

Evidence, or as usual, you are lying.

Makka
Makka
October 18, 2023 11:52 am

IRANIAN FOREIGN MINISTER AMIR ABDOLLAHIAN ARRIVES IN SAUDI ARABIA

From last night’s conversation regarding a possible IAF strike on Iran, I suspect that this visit signals that KSA has agreed to stand neutral in actions in this conflict. Which means (to me) their airspace will be denied to Israel/US requests. If they ask.The remaining options being across Iraq and the long route around the Arabian Peninsula.

I’m only speculating but I think Israel now has had a gutsful of Iran’s support for murderous aggression and want to deliver very severe punishment. It’s now wait and see if the US can talk them down. But no doubt US preparations are underway in the region should a strike eventuate.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 18, 2023 11:52 am

Victoria bans the Nazi salute

Awaiting the announcement that Jazz Hands has replaced it.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 18, 2023 11:53 am

In reality there should be an Australia wide shortage of removal boxes following the Voice. But there won’t be.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 18, 2023 11:54 am

Jorge
Oct 18, 2023 11:02 AM
Victoria’s laws against the Nazi salute come with more than one caveat.

Apparently it’s ok if it used in opposition to Nazis. So Antifa get a pass.

Sigh of relief from Fat Boy.

Zatara
Zatara
October 18, 2023 11:55 am

I’ve no idea how valid this video is.

It appears to be of a rocket malfunctioning in flight and impacting in a city. Whose? Where? When? I don’t speak Arabic so I can’t translate it.

I also hesitate to use the term ‘hospital’ or give any credit to casualty numbers as I have seen no proof of them but prior experience tells us it’s not beyond paliwood to fake such things.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 18, 2023 11:55 am

Victoria bans the Nazi salute

Anything about half tracks?

C.L.
C.L.
October 18, 2023 11:56 am

Netanyahu’s excellent spokesman in that video, Mark Regev – the one whose rationality was causing blonde lady to melt down – is a Melburnian and former combat soldier in the IDF’s Nahal Brigade.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 18, 2023 11:57 am

Bruce of Newcastle

Oct 18, 2023 8:55 AM

She should be in the French rugby side.

Catholic nun tackles an environmental activist trying to stop construction of a religious center in France (17 Oct)

No-one who spent their formative years under a Sisters of No Mercy regime would find that footage at all remarkable.

alwaysright
alwaysright
October 18, 2023 11:58 am

According to my MP, the Australoan government’s response to the Hamas butchery is to send money to Gaza.
I wonder who will get the money.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 18, 2023 12:00 pm

Re Israel and Iran, avoid nukes, destroy Kharg Island and other roil export loading terminals.

Once shortages and hunger bite, the already restive population will rebel, distracting the mullahs.

C.L.
C.L.
October 18, 2023 12:00 pm

…is a Melburnian…

Emigrated. Now an Israeli.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
October 18, 2023 12:01 pm

Thank you for this — in our country the part of Fred is played turnabout by AirBus Albo and Blackout Bowen.

Thank you Dot

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
October 18, 2023 12:01 pm

Last night saw a promo clip on Twitter for what looks like a doco on politicians lying.

It mentioned FOI and investigation into Boris Johnson’s Covid hospitalisation and claims he almost died. Suggests was not true.

Will be interesting to see the full thing when it comes out. Based on last three years would not surprise me at all. Just part of the propaganda to promote the vaccines.

I am guessing Indolent will spot it first but one to look out for.

Cassie of Sydney
October 18, 2023 12:02 pm

Netanyahu’s excellent spokesman in that video, Mark Regev – the one whose rationality was causing blonde lady to melt down – is a Melburnian and former combat soldier in the IDF’s Nahal Brigade.”

I know Mark. He was Israeli ambassador to the UK for a period.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 18, 2023 12:02 pm

oil export, though the effect will be to disrupt roil exports.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 18, 2023 12:03 pm

NSW labore is full of drongoes

I like drongos. They’re handsome birdies.
I don’t like Labor’s drones. They’re ugly.

Had a drongo come by the Cafe for a while, it was a privilege. But he eventually wandered off to do drongoish things. My latest unlocked exploit is to get a cuckoo shrike to accept mince. So far I have to throw a morsel into the air and the shrike neatly catches it. But he now recognizes me as a source of yummy food. That’s a first – they usually ignore humans. Adults anyway, I can find a few vids of young ones being hand raised.

Roger
Roger
October 18, 2023 12:05 pm

I wonder who will get the money.

It’s supposed to go to the Red Cross.

P
P
October 18, 2023 12:06 pm

European Commission Announces Triple Funding for Palestinian/Hamas Effort
October 17, 2023 | Sundance

EU President Ursula von der Leyen has pledged to provide the Palestinian/Hamas effort with $50 million in supplemental assistance to support the resistance effort against Israeli retaliation.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 18, 2023 12:07 pm

Dr Faustus,

don’t knock the Leaving Certificate it won me a Commonwealth Scholarship to Sydney Uni

OO: Far from it, actually I was just trying to twang Winston’s elastic. It was pretty much my own qualification when I left school in the UK.

Luckily, I just happened to ‘get’ mathematics and came away with a GCSE O-level – which took me through night school and eventually, via a scholarship, to uni.

duncanm
duncanm
October 18, 2023 12:08 pm

Arky
Oct 18, 2023 10:54 AM

jeees. She should lose her job for that one.

Roger
Roger
October 18, 2023 12:10 pm

EU President Ursula von der Leyen has pledged to provide the Palestinian/Hamas effort with $50 million in supplemental assistance to support the resistance effort against Israeli retaliation.

No fan of Mz. von der Leyen here, but she specifically says it’s humanitarian assistance and mentions Israel’s right to defend itself.

Makka
Makka
October 18, 2023 12:12 pm

Jordan and Iraq will likely line up with the Saudis given the situation on the ground in both countries.

Yes , they may well. Then again, Israel may just tell them to fk off, we’re coming through and don’t make us deal with you too. Then back the long way.

lotocoti
lotocoti
October 18, 2023 12:13 pm

I think we can exclude Hamas dropping a bomb on the hospital.

Not until Greg’s Airplanes and Automobiles has done a deep dive into
the hamarse airfarce’s motorised paragliders.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
October 18, 2023 12:14 pm

No-one who spent their formative years under a Sisters of No Mercy regime would find that footage at all remarkable.

The gentleman should consider himself fortunate that she was not carrying a wooden ruler.

Roger
Roger
October 18, 2023 12:15 pm

She should lose her job for that one.

She’ll probably get an award.

(I get a distinct 7:30 Sarah Ferguson vibe from her. Like a “smart” schoolgirl completely out of her depth & unaware of how little she knows or understands.)

Salvatore, Iron Publican
October 18, 2023 12:17 pm

The Courier Mail poll linked by Top Ender;

Do you think there should be a royal commission into child abuse in remote Indigenous communities?

is now at 1250 votes, running 95% yes to 5% no.

Bruce in WA
October 18, 2023 12:18 pm

I think we should rename Canberra.
An indig name for the district but it was chosen by white men and is now sullied by the genocidal colonial regime that has subjugated the original owners of this country for over a hundred years.

PluckaDuck is my pick.

It captures the very essence of the place.

Not bad, not bad …

I rather like Fullawytekuns myself …

P
P
October 18, 2023 12:21 pm

No fan of Mz. von der Leyen here, but she specifically says it’s humanitarian assistance and mentions Israel’s right to defend itself.

How much did Israel receive?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 18, 2023 12:22 pm

LOL, it’s an EV sort of day today. Popcorn is in short supply.

High Court rules against Victoria’s EV road tax (Sky News, 18 Oct)

Victoria’s electric vehicle tax has been ruled invalid by the High Court.

Two electric vehicle owners from Melbourne have successfully argued the state government does not have the power to impose the charge.

Under current arrangements, electric vehicle drivers receive an annual invoice.

The amount they’re required to pay depends on how many kilometres they have travelled.

However, the High Court has determined only the Commonwealth would have the power to impose the charge in line with the Constitution.

A curious decision since the whole idea of the tax is to pay for roads and suchlike – which we ICE owners already do via (Federal) petrol excise. It’ll be fun if Bowen is forced to levy an excise on EVs so that state governments can maintain their roads. The Greens will be throwing their toys out of the pram very excitedly.

duncanm
duncanm
October 18, 2023 12:26 pm

Zatara
Oct 18, 2023 11:55 AM
I’ve no idea how valid this video is.

It appears to be of a rocket malfunctioning in flight and impacting in a city. Whose? Where? When? I don’t speak Arabic so I can’t translate it.

here’s the source of the video Israel claims is evidence of the Hamas misfire.

Live webcam – scroll back to 19:59:50 local time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtruJztXE5w

Robert Sewell
October 18, 2023 12:26 pm

https://www.newsmax.com/…/gm-ev…/2023/10/17/id/1138613/

Gee.
Is that yet another crack starting to show from the Green Utopia that the government is forcing on us?

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
October 18, 2023 12:26 pm

From Michael Smith News. This is why Sara Ferguson was trending last night.

The chief commander of the Al Qassem Brigade, who initiated the operation, he gave clear instructions not to target civilians or not to harm civilians,” he told ABC’s 7.30.

“In the middle of the confrontation, there was some civilians. The clear instruction was not to kill civilians.”

The Hamas leader also claimed there were no plans to take civilian hostages.

“We haven’t planned at any moment to take any civilian hostages. The plan was to take on the fight against soldiers and to take some soldiers as hostages.”

Pressed on whether he was claiming the terrorist group had lost control of its fighters, Dr Naim told 7.30 that others had infiltrated the Hamas operation.

Top Ender
Top Ender
October 18, 2023 12:28 pm

Victoria bans the Nazi salute

But what about productions of Cabaret?

Won’t someone think of the actors?

Roger
Roger
October 18, 2023 12:29 pm

How much did Israel receive?

Setting aside the whataboutism in that response, I’m not sure Israel requires any humanitarian aid at the moment as they are a well developed country.

Top Ender
Top Ender
October 18, 2023 12:31 pm

Strike 1 to Rolfe:

The coronial inquest into Kumanjayi Walker’s death has been indefinitely postponed following Zachary Rolfe’s application to have the Northern Territory Coroner recuse herself on the grounds of alleged “apprehended bias”.

An NT Courts spokesman this morning confirmed that Coroner Elisabeth Armitage has directed that next week’s scheduled sitting in the inquest be vacated to allow her time to consider the many submissions made in response to Mr Rolfe’s October 6 recusal application.

“Coroner Armitage will need to take time to carefully consider the matters raised in the many submissions received before ruling on the application, in circumstances where she has other court obligations this week,” he said.

“Accordingly, her Honour has indicated that she will not be in a position to deliver her ruling before the Inquest is due to resume on 23 October.

“As a result, Coroner Armitage has directed that next week’s scheduled sitting in this inquest be vacated.

“The further delay to these proceedings is extremely regrettable, but necessary to address the application made.”

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
October 18, 2023 12:33 pm

Dover that picture gave me the heebyjeebys. 6th form history and The Congress of Vienna with the most boring teacher ever. Put me off history for years. Dates and facts, but never the why’s and wherefores. How does a teacher make The Peloponessian War boring. Another claim to fame.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 18, 2023 12:33 pm

TE at 9:07.
Joe Hildebrand has perfectly described himself, but just doesn’t recognise it.

Robert Sewell
October 18, 2023 12:33 pm

rosie

Oct 18, 2023 7:45 AM
It is true that many muslims only pay lip-service to their fundamentally flawed religion.
However secularism is no antidote to antisemitism and apostatizing itself is punishable by death.
You might get away with it in a western country.

Every ‘moderate’ Islamic enclave is one fundamentalist away from being turned into a gang of fanatics. One Fundamentalist Imam very quickly pulls the ‘moderates’ into line.
Look at the videos coming from GB and the US, look at the videos from Australia.
Mobs of Muslims ready to maim and kill because they are sheep and have been ordered to do so. The very same people who last week were ‘moderate’ muslims.
The term moderate muslim is great camouflage and they throw the clothing of civilisation off in a second.

Kneel
Kneel
October 18, 2023 12:36 pm

“I noticed that pattern for over a week now regardless of 100 or 200 comments per page but the overall number of comments. Solution? A daily open thread?”

No – that’s a “work-around”, not a “solution”!

I would suggest changing the comment fetch SQL to add a “limit” based on page number and comments per page (this limits the data fetched from the database to just the comments that will be shown). If still slow, create an index on the comments table for each field listed in the “where” clause of the same SQL (this speeds up determining which comments are related to the thread), and also an index for any fields in the “order by” clause, if there is one (this speeds up putting the comments in the correct order). You only need to create the indecies (indexes) ONCE and the server will then update them as the database grows. Assuming MySQL, avoid indexing on large text fields, as this will tend to fill up the database server disk space with full text index caching table changes where there are lots of inserts or deletes, but otherwise it doesn’t hurt to index everything.

Roger
Roger
October 18, 2023 12:38 pm

One Fundamentalist Imam very quickly pulls the ‘moderates’ into line.

I noted earlier that the WA Labor senator & hijabi, Fatima Payman, yesterday called for Israel to be condemned by parliament (thereby abandoning the ALP’s position).

This was after a week of pressure on social media (and no doubt by phone) from co-religionists.

Labor has a real problem there.

Makka
Makka
October 18, 2023 12:41 pm

here’s the source of the video Israel claims is evidence of the Hamas misfire

Certainly appears as though a rocket launched with a Hamas salvo has failed in flight and then fell back to earth. There was a flash of the explosion on impact. Don’t know if the timing fits the event though.

Not looking good for Hamas denials.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 18, 2023 12:43 pm

The stench is the price for saving the planet.

A potentially improperly zoned, foul-smelling plant in southwest Dallas is shutting down (Phys.org, 17 Oct)

A plant near homes in southwest Dallas that renders animal fat into biofuel is shutting down after The Dallas Morning News found that it appears to be operating without proper zoning.

Neighbors have complained for years about the smell of dead and rotting animals that they say comes from the facility owned by Envirotein. They say the smell has been disrupting their daily lives since 2020, when they say they first began complaining about it through the city of Dallas 311 system.

“Just awful,” said Brandy Mendoza, 49, who has been living in the neighborhood with her family since the early ’90s when her father bought a house. “We thought it was the neighbors creating the bad smell until one day, I asked around and everyone was getting the same disgusting odor.”

Shuhdy Shazaly, operational manager at Envirotein, said Monday that it is stopping all operations for two months and will be cleaned up.

Shady Shazaly is the producer of pong? I don’t think we’ve heard, or smelled, the last of this story, somehow.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 18, 2023 12:45 pm

Dr Faustus

Oct 18, 2023 9:43 AM

Looks like I’ve been banned on HotCopper for absolutely nothing?!

Don’t despair.
If the internet is like searching an office waste bin – mostly rubbish, with some good stuff – HotCopper is like looking for used chewing gum in an ashtray.

Quite so.
My investment performance has improved markedly since I abandoned Hot Copper in favour of the dartboard and butcher’s paper.

John Brumble
John Brumble
October 18, 2023 12:46 pm

ABC (why do I bother) now using aboriginal names for Australian cities, followed, in parentheses, by their common (real) names. Get rid of it. There are already alternatives, and in the era of the kinternet, no need for it.

Looking forward to them naming “Germany”, “Deutschland”; “Japan”, “Nippon”, etc. etc. The English name of Fraser Island is Fraser Island. If you want to call it K’gari, I expect that you’ll use correct Badjala (or at the least Gubbi Gubbi of which Badjala is a dialect).

dopey
dopey
October 18, 2023 12:47 pm

Sky News hysterical bint….does sound a lot like like a certain lady on our own ABC.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 18, 2023 12:48 pm

Makka

Hamarse denials are like mUnty comments.

Unless independently verified, they can safely be assumed to be lies.

Kneel
Kneel
October 18, 2023 12:58 pm

“Opinions are like @rseholes, everyone has one….”

… and they all stink!

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 18, 2023 1:00 pm

Zatara
Oct 18, 2023 11:55 AM

I’ve no idea how valid this video is.

It appears to be of a rocket malfunctioning in flight and impacting in a city. Whose? Where? When? I don’t speak Arabic so I can’t translate it.

I also hesitate to use the term ‘hospital’ or give any credit to casualty numbers as I have seen no proof of them but prior experience tells us it’s not beyond paliwood to fake such things.

Zarata,

from link above to townhall – https://townhall.com/tipsheet/spencerbrown/2023/10/17/did-hamas-rocket-misfire-just-take-out-a-hospital-in-gaza-city-n2629969

The blast occurred just minutes after a large barrage of Hamas rockets were fired toward Tel Aviv and Hamas reportedly announced that they were in the process of launching their “most robust weapons” at Haifa just before the hospital explosion — but no such weapon reached Haifa.

Jordan Schachtel @ dossier.today
@JordanSchachtel

One minute before a rocket blew up a hospital in Gaza, Hamas announced on Telegram that they were launching their most robust weapons in the arsenal at Haifa.

No rockets reached Haifa. High probability these hit the hospital and set off secondary explosions within building.

Even pro-Gaza outlets have reported that the hospital was struck by a misfired rocket which also set off more terrorist weapons stored in the hospital.

Gaza Report – ????? ???
Oct 18, 2023
@gaza_report

#BREAKING: An impact at the Al Ahly Hospital, center Gaza City is being checked by some reports as a premature rocket detonation from a nearby launching site.

Gaza Report – ????? ???
@gaza_report

Reports continue to surface that a misifired rocket detonated a stockpile of munitions held on the hospital grounds. #Gaza

Subsequent investigation by the IDF led them to the conclusion that the explosion was caused by a misfired rocket launched by Islamic Jihad, a frequent coordinating partner of Hamas:

It’s no secret that terrorist rockets launched from the Gaza Strip — often cannibalized from street signposts, sewer pipes, and other tubes intended for other peaceful uses — often misfire and land inside the Gaza Strip.

Joe Truzman
@JoeTruzman

Lots of talk in recent hours of a failed rocket launch striking the grounds of a hospital in Gaza. I think it’s timely to remind viewers that rockets produced by terrorists aren’t always effective.

Also worth noting is the fact that Israel called for the evacuation of civilians from hospitals and other locations in the northern Gaza Strip on Friday — something Hamas worked to prevent by blocking evacuation routes and telling residents to stay put in order for the Iran-backed terrorists to maintain the presence of human shields.

As Fox News Channel’s Trey Yingst pointed out, every claim from Hamas and subsequent reporting of those claims must be scrutinized and verified — but that hasn’t stopped pro-Hamas media outlets from quickly parroting their anti-Israel narrative.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 18, 2023 1:00 pm

The chief commander of the Al Qassem Brigade, who initiated the operation, he gave clear instructions not to target civilians or not to harm civilians,” he told ABC’s 7.30.

All those manuals the IDF recovered from dead jihadis, that detail how to correctly exterminate Jewish women and children, don’t seem to’ve been noticed by the ABC.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 18, 2023 1:03 pm

Following on the Canadian Opposition handling of a Reporter above

Enoch Powell Responds to Being Called A Racist – The Dick Cavett Show

An Incredibly Lucid & Well Spoken Explanation

One I had not thought about with respect to the Construct of the UK and the British Colonies

Makka
Makka
October 18, 2023 1:07 pm

Great find , Roger. Thanks.

Rings true, every bit of it. And Biden’s visit is, among other things, is to convince Israel the US was blindsided too?

C.L.
C.L.
October 18, 2023 1:08 pm

The ABC in the morning: fined for suggesting war hero was a murderer.
The ABC in the evening: a friendly chat with a Hamas terrorist.

At this stage, give the ABC its head, I say.
They are very close to politically ripe for demolition.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
October 18, 2023 1:08 pm

No-one who spent their formative years under a Sisters of No Mercy regime would find that footage at all remarkable.

They did their training with Mother Mary MacKillop’s girls, the Sisters of St Joseph, tough biddies.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 18, 2023 1:09 pm

On Albanese’s resignation.

On form, the little Trot will be looking for political backup from the currently silent First Nations industry – who will doubtless be happy to explain that the No Tsunami was 100% due to misleading of the stupidracist population by Team Dutton, the Price girlie, and Uncle Tom Mundine.

The proud Grayndler man will be hoping to create an escape hatch around ‘the Indigenous nation has spoken and it would be harmful/ungrateful/racist/stupid to contradict them’.

Roger
Roger
October 18, 2023 1:10 pm

Rings true, every bit of it.

Well, as they say, “if even half of it is true…” we have a big problem.

Robert Sewell
October 18, 2023 1:15 pm

I vote a new tax to help feed the hungry kids in the settlements whose parents are too lazy to feed them..
50% would be a good start.
Levy it on fantasy footy sites and we’ll see how well this worthy tax helps.

johanna
johanna
October 18, 2023 1:15 pm

Local government, heavily infiltrated by Greenies, strikes again at the cost of ratepayers:

The vehicle is designed to travel up to 200 kilometres – to match a full waste collection run – and carry out about 1,000 bin-lifts over eight hours.

The region was selected because of its proximity to the recently opened Coregas hydrogen fuelling station at Port Kembla.

Mr Wade would not reveal the cost of the vehicle – except to say it was “significant” – but said the decision to invest in the technology came in response to customers who were “desperate” for the change.

He said he expected the cost of such vehicles would decrease as more heavy freight companies adopt the technology.

Isn’t it extraordinary how all of these stories about ‘game changing’ greenie technology put skirts on the sofas when it comes to mentioning the cost.

FFS, there are heaps and heaps of ways of generating energy. The only ones that matter are those that are scalable, comparatively inexpensive, and reliable.

Again and again, we get these innumerate stories about how to generate energy from seaweed or algae or pigshit. TheirABC is a serial offender.

The figure they never publish is how much it costs per unit, compared to coal, gas or nuclear. Or how reliable it is.

It reminds me of the 1960s, although I was pre-pubescent most of it. Reality was suspended, The payoff was an explosion of creative power in music that shows no signs of happening again anytime soon.

Nowadays, reality is suspended with no payoff at all – quite the contrary.

Oh, and I sometimes wonder about the ‘stately homes’ (h/t The Kinks) purchased by British rock stars.

Did they have any idea about the decrepit moneypits they were buying?

Ray Davies, lovin’ The Kinks:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYIl6n_SRCI

‘The taxman’s taken all I own …’

Roger
Roger
October 18, 2023 1:15 pm

On form, the little Trot will be looking for political backup from the currently silent First Nations industry…

I suspect Albanese’s name will be merde in quite a few of those circles.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
October 18, 2023 1:17 pm

Sky News hysterical bint….does sound a lot like like a certain lady on our own ABC.

. Yessh that nasally sound of that certain mid-evening lady but behaved more like Cathy Newman, what is it with these BBC bints?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 18, 2023 1:19 pm

At this stage, give the ABC its head, I say.

Relocate ABC HQ to Alice Springs or Gaza? Hmm, decisions decisions. Production costs would be cheaper in Gaza.

Actually if the Libs promised to do the former it would be excellent policy, since the ABC was such a Voice fan. And they could recruit lots of aboriginal people into good jobs if they were located in Alice. Can you get almond milk lattes in Alice Springs? Maybe their union could ask.

caveman
caveman
October 18, 2023 1:23 pm
P
P
October 18, 2023 1:24 pm

Jordan and Egypt Cancel Summit With Joe Biden
October 17, 2023 | Sundance

caveman
caveman
October 18, 2023 1:24 pm
Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 18, 2023 1:26 pm

Dr Faustus

Oct 18, 2023 10:23 AM

There are out-and-out pump and dump crooks that need to be in gaol that still post on Hot Copper. Absolutely ridiculous.

Quite.
Several shitty third tier brokers appear to routinely used HotCopper for that very purpose.

A while ago I briefly did some work for a very dodgy small cap before making my escape.
I continued to follow their fortunes, all the way down through the death spiral right to the flaming crash.
Litigation continues from those who tipped in $100 meg a couple of months before it was all lost in the Big Hole in The Ground.
I saw lotsa pumping on Hot Copper similar to what you describe. I am 93.1% sure I know the insider who was doing it, either alone under multiple screen-names or with a small cohort of sycophants. I doubt “good faith enthusiasm” was involved.

Arky
October 18, 2023 1:32 pm

The free world is in a no win situation.
Go hard after the terrorists in their homelands and they flood our countries with their refugees, millions of angry young men who make it politically even more difficult to isolate ourselves from the conflict or solve the underlying issues.
Go softly softly is no solution either.
Then there is the counter intuitive outcomes, similar to the AIDS epidemic actually further fuelling the gay rights movement and relaxation of the stigma and laws against intravenous drug use. Common sense would tell you dying from a hideous disease would make those things less acceptable, not more. But this is not always the case. Somehow, the more awful a thing is, the better it is at becoming a rallying point for all sorts of creatures.

Robert Sewell
October 18, 2023 1:33 pm

Big Nambas:

Oct 18, 2023 10:51 AM
I wish they would get on with WW3 I want to see who wins before I die.
One thing is certain, Israel will nuke Iran if they are attacked.

Let’s try a realistic threat first.
An irradiated Middle East only means millions of refugees streaming into Europe.
How will they be stopped?

flyingduk
flyingduk
October 18, 2023 1:34 pm

As in the UK, I reckon premiums are about to skyrocket.

They already did …. my car premium was up 36% and my house 30% year over year.

johanna
johanna
October 18, 2023 1:36 pm

John Brumble
Oct 18, 2023 12:46 PM

ABC (why do I bother) now using aboriginal names for Australian cities, followed, in parentheses, by their common (real) names. Get rid of it. There are already alternatives, and in the era of the kinternet, no need for it.

Looking forward to them naming “Germany”, “Deutschland”; “Japan”, “Nippon”, etc. etc. The English name of Fraser Island is Fraser Island. If you want to call it K’gari, I expect that you’ll use correct Badjala (or at the least Gubbi Gubbi of which Badjala is a dialect).

Better still, wil they be calling St Petersburg exclusively by that name?

Ahistorical morons R Us.

calli
calli
October 18, 2023 1:37 pm

behaved more like Cathy Newman

So what you’re really saying is…

Roger
Roger
October 18, 2023 1:37 pm

Somehow, the more awful a thing is, the better it is at becoming a rallying point for all sorts of creatures.

Victimhood pays well.

calli
calli
October 18, 2023 1:39 pm

I don’t think Israel are playing “victim” here. The anger and response is justified.

Roger
Roger
October 18, 2023 1:40 pm

They already did …. my car premium was up 36%

How about 940%.

flyingduk
flyingduk
October 18, 2023 1:42 pm

ABC (why do I bother) now using aboriginal names for Australian cities, followed, in parentheses, by their common (real) names.

Because these cities all existed prior to the arrival of the Brits?… and were stolen from the ‘first people’, just like the rest of the country?

Roger
Roger
October 18, 2023 1:45 pm

I don’t think Israel are playing “victim” here. The anger and response is justified.

If that’s to me, I wasn’t referring to Israel.

It was a response to Arky’s second para.

Minority groups use claims of victimhood to attract tax payer funding to their cause.

flyingduk
flyingduk
October 18, 2023 1:45 pm

So if I use a Nazi salute in Victoria, all I need say is that it was used in derision or mockery and I’m

good

Brilliant! … the left has already accepted that racism can be used to fight racism, so more nazism should be perfect for fighting nazis.

Aaron
Aaron
October 18, 2023 1:48 pm

Joe Hildebrand laments the appalling “Yes” campaign.

It’s obvious. The truth is out there.

Smart people voted “Yes”. Sadly they were outnumbered by uneducated bogans.

Whatever helps them cope.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 18, 2023 1:50 pm

I saw lotsa pumping on Hot Copper similar to what you describe. I am 93.1% sure I know the insider who was doing it, either alone under multiple screen-names or with a small cohort of sycophants. I doubt “good faith enthusiasm” was involved.

I’ve lived in small cap world for most of the past 20 years. I’d suggest 97.3% of what gets posted on HotCopper is utter rubbish and I recognise many recurring screen names – from context I know several of them for certain.

Why ASIC ignores this this festival of flout escapes me. A couple of public executions would work wonders.

johanna
johanna
October 18, 2023 1:50 pm

Sancho Panzer
Oct 18, 2023 11:57 AM

Bruce of Newcastle

Oct 18, 2023 8:55 AM

She should be in the French rugby side.

Catholic nun tackles an environmental activist trying to stop construction of a religious center in France (17 Oct)

No-one who spent their formative years under a Sisters of No Mercy regime would find that footage at all remarkable.

I’m trying to remember the quote about nuns licking teams, soccie or footie, into shape. Over at Sincs.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 18, 2023 1:51 pm

caveman
Oct 18, 2023 1:24 PM

God dam,who let this mutherf##ker poo ona plane

Bangladesh or Parkistan?

thefrollickingmole
October 18, 2023 1:51 pm

Insane one issue fanatics push one issue, insanely news.

The no vote in the referendum rejected constitutional recognition through a voice to parliament but did not reject the policies of truth telling and treaty-making, several Labor MPs have argued

The Quagmire of referendum consent rears its ugly head. What happened to no means no?
Am I able to argue ” well it was just the tip” to a no now?
https://youtu.be/UN9OojsdLV8?si=sCBf9bKSxP6AXWg4

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 18, 2023 1:51 pm

Roger

Oct 18, 2023 10:46 AM

As for the Voice referendum, to repeat what I said on the X machine: Albo really buggered that up. It wasn’t his policy…

“”I begin by acknowledging the traditional owners of the land on which we meet. I pay my respects to their elders past, present and emerging. And on behalf of the Australian Labor Party, I commit to the Uluru Statement from the heart in full.”

Not his policy, eh?
Was it one of those – what’s the phrase again? … Yes, that’s it. A “creeping assumption” or a “decision which made itself”.
No.
This was a shit sandwich, the production of which was overseen by Luigi. The fact that he let Noel, Marcia, Megan and Dean add more and more layers of shit to the sandwich to the point where Luigi couldn’t find enough parsley to garnish it with doesn’t alter the fact that Luigi owns this.
He owns it either because he is an unmitigated race-baited, or because he was too incompetent to control a handful of far-left Trot fellow travellers.

thefrollickingmole
October 18, 2023 1:54 pm

Romping from the in-voice to treaties and compo is like saying no to sex, then taking that as meaning you skip foreplay.

It’s a little bit rapey.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 18, 2023 1:55 pm

Dr Faustus
Oct 18, 2023 1:50 PM

I saw lotsa pumping on Hot Copper similar to what you describe

Is this part of the Copper Talk?

Glencore to shed 1200 jobs and shut Mount Isa copper mines by 2025

Mark Ludlow
Queensland bureau chief

Swiss mining giant Glencore is set to close its copper mining operations in Mount Isa by the end of 2025, which will result in the loss of about 1200 jobs, but it will keep its refinery and smelters open in North Queensland.

With global miners struggling to contain costs and boost profitability amid increasing economic uncertainty, Glencore on Wednesday announced its three underground copper mines in Mount Isa will be closed by the second half of 2025.

It is understood the mines are reaching the end of their natural life and the copper grade had become much lower which forced the decision.

But in a bid to allay local concerns, Glencore will confirm it will keep its copper smelter in Mount Isa and refinery in Townsville open, with enough third-party work to keep them profitable.

There will also be no change to its zinc operations in Mount Isa in the state’s north-west.

Glencore employs about 3500 people across its zinc and copper operations in Mount Isa.

Glencore chief operator officer of its zinc assets in Australia Sam Strohmayr said the company was aware the decision to close the copper mines would be disappointing for the Mount Isa community.

“The reality of mining is that mines have a beginning, middle and end. And unfortunately, after 60 years of operation, Mount Isa’s underground copper operations have now reached that end,” he said.

“We want to give our people as much time as possible to consider the best options for them and their families, which is why we are notifying our workers and the community almost two years before these mines close.

“Our focus over the coming months will be to work closely with our people and contractors, our suppliers, and the Mount Isa community to provide support as we move towards closure of these assets.”

Treasurer Cameron Dick will be in Mount Isa on Wednesday to talk to locals who may be concerned about the closure.

It is understood unions have been negotiations with Glencore and the state government about the job losses.

In 2022, Glencore said it was extending the life of its copper smelter in Mount Isa and refinery in Townsville after financial support from the Queensland government. Glencore also invested another $500 million into the facilities.

Late last year, Glencore has partly blamed the Palaszczuk government’s new controversial royalties scheme for its decision to abandon its plans to build a $2 billion thermal coal mine in Central Queensland.

Glencore said it had decided to withdraw the Valeria coal project from the approvals process and will place the project under review.

Aaron
Aaron
October 18, 2023 1:55 pm

“”I begin by acknowledging the traditional owners of the land on which we meet. I pay my respects to their elders past, present and emerging. And on behalf of the Australian Labor Party, I commit to the Uluru Statement from the heart in full.”

It was only a “projection”.

Like your $275.00 .

Makka
Makka
October 18, 2023 1:56 pm

The no vote in the referendum rejected constitutional recognition through a voice to parliament but did not reject the policies of truth telling and treaty-making, several Labor MPs have argued

They will try to legislate. In some fashion.

duncanm
duncanm
October 18, 2023 1:56 pm

This is how you deal with idiot reporters.. while enjoying a healthy snack.

https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1714290806335689210

Roger
Roger
October 18, 2023 1:57 pm

A good example of victimhood paying:

In QLD we have what is virtually a duplicate system of medical general practice and allied health services for indigenous people, bulk-billed regardless of means, based on the assertion that mainstream clinics were too often “culturally inappropriate” (despite no aboriginal in QLD having lived according to culture since the late 19th C.).

You have to laugh, though….most of the doctors are Indian.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 18, 2023 1:58 pm

EV’s Keeping Insurance Companies leaping with Joy!

Battery caused blaze at Eastern Golf Club where Greg Norman designed the Yering course

The fire destroyed a luxury clubhouse, and it has now been confirmed the inferno ignited from inside the building.

Charging batteries ignited the huge blaze that destroyed a luxury clubhouse at a Victorian golf course on Monday afternoon, it has been revealed.

Emergency services were called to The Eastern Golf Club at Yering in the Yarra Valley region when the automatic smoke alarm went off just before 2pm.

When they arrived the structure was “well alight” and at least 20 people were safely evacuated from the clubhouse.

On Tuesday, the Country Fire Authority (CFA) confirmed the fire was caused by lithium-ion batteries.

The batteries had been on charge in the buggy storage area when the blaze started.

Firefighters remained on the scene on Tuesday morning to douse any remaining hot spots.

No injuries have been reported.

The 27-hole golf course was designed by legendary Aussie golfer Greg Norman, who won two majors and 20 PGA Tour tournaments.

The Eastern Golf Club is a private members’ golf club which also offers retreats for its players.

Roger
Roger
October 18, 2023 1:59 pm

Not his policy, eh?

That was monty…just to be clear.

Rabz
October 18, 2023 1:59 pm

The proud Grayndler man

Not for much longer, it would seem. The greenfilth have him in their sights, as they do Blabbersack.

the ALPBC are very close to politically ripe for demolition

“very close to”? I think a certain Mantra™ could be invoked (again).

Damon
Damon
October 18, 2023 2:01 pm

Abuse of women and infanticide will not be on the ‘truth-telling’ agenda.

alwaysright
alwaysright
October 18, 2023 2:02 pm

Any “stories” from the illiterate across a generation cannot be verified.
For example, Collingwood supporters and the Harmes incident.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
October 18, 2023 2:02 pm

Tinta @ 12.01, I’m still laughing even after slipping over on the bank and gashing my leg quite badly on a rock.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 18, 2023 2:06 pm

Moment £190,000 McLaren plug-in hybrid sports car bursts into flames on TEST DRIVE a mile away from motor dealership

The McLaren Artura went up in flames in Pontefract Road, Stourton, in Leeds

Crossie
Crossie
October 18, 2023 2:07 pm

A curious decision since the whole idea of the tax is to pay for roads and suchlike – which we ICE owners already do via (Federal) petrol excise. It’ll be fun if Bowen is forced to levy an excise on EVs so that state governments can maintain their roads. The Greens will be throwing their toys out of the pram very excitedly.

Federal government will have to apply the tax as EVs are much heavier than ICE vehicles and thus damaging the roads at a far greater rate. Commonwealth builds and maintains national highways so has an interest in recouping those costs from the worst offenders – the EVs. Over to you Bowen.

alwaysright
alwaysright
October 18, 2023 2:07 pm

I think a certain Mantra™ Womantra™ could be invoked

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 18, 2023 2:08 pm

H B Bear

Oct 18, 2023 10:52 AM

Albrechtsen does well to spear the AICD. Why does practically every collective body fall in step to the Gramscian march?

Quite so.
With Joe Aston’s departure from the AFR last week I got to thinking about some of the scalps he had hanging from his belt, with one being Alex Malley, the ex CEO of the accounting membership body CPA.
Managed to wangle a $1.8 meg salary, with CPA sponsoring his “leadership” books and vanity TV show on Channel Nein.
The clown even described himself as “The boss of Australia’s xx,000 accountants”.
Err, no.
You run a membership body, responsible for a bit of professional education and the odd disciplinary matter.
If he hadn’t been tipped out, you can bet he would have been front and centre in the Gay Marriage and Yessir! campaigns.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 18, 2023 2:12 pm

Greens plan senate motion against Gaza ‘invasion’
Jess Malcolm
Ben Packham

The Greens are proposing to move a motion in the Senate to oppose Israel’s “invasion of Gaza”.

In a letter from Greens Senator Nick McKim to president Sue Lines, the party has given notice that it is preparing to move the motion on Wednesday.

“That the Senate opposes Israel’s invasion of Gaza,” it reads.

The motion comes after Greens leader Adam Bandt sought to amend a bipartisan motion in the lower house seeking to erase a statement declaring Australia “stands with Israel and recognises its inherent right to defend itself”.

The Greens have been contacted for comment.

Earlier on Wednesday, 11 Green senators opposed the government’s motion condemning Hamas and declaring Australian support for Israel. The move followed an unsuccessful attempt by the Senate Greens to amend the motion, which replicated an earlier statement in the House, to accuse Israel of war crimes.

I’m sure such a motion will make the I.D.F. quake in their boots.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 18, 2023 2:13 pm

C.L.

Oct 18, 2023 11:08 AM

I don’t think Hamas dropped a bomb on the hospital deliberately…

It’s a Christian hospital.

I’m open to the possibility.

Steady on.
Hamas is pretty extreme, but they are not the ACT Shire Council.

flyingduk
flyingduk
October 18, 2023 2:15 pm

The McLaren Artura went up in flames in Pontefract Road, Stourton, in Leeds

Lets hope these ‘electrical issues’ never disable the doorlocks.

flyingduk
flyingduk
October 18, 2023 2:17 pm

The Greens are proposing to move a motion in the Senate to oppose Israel’s “invasion of Gaza”.

reminds me of the old ‘muslims brace for Islamophobic reprisals over tomorrows suicide bombings’

calli
calli
October 18, 2023 2:18 pm

The no vote in the referendum rejected constitutional recognition through a voice to parliament but did not reject the policies of truth telling and treaty-making, several Labor MPs have argued

Bull. The question was never asked, the “policies” never showcased.

What exactly are these policies? Where are they offered to the Australian people? On what basis are these “educated” nincompoops trying to foist them upon us?

This reeks of ruling, not representing. Would they be so kind as to let the electorate decide these brand new, pulled out of their ample politician derrières “policies”?

Also, “truth telling” does not mean what they think it means.

calli
calli
October 18, 2023 2:21 pm

Any hijabs been twitched lately or are they saving that up for next week?

calli
calli
October 18, 2023 2:23 pm

Downticker has come on shift. Good afternoon, my obsessive little fan.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 18, 2023 2:25 pm

Entire Uluru Statement from the Heart ‘has got to be junked’: Peta Credlin

Sky News host Peta Credlin says the entirety of the Uluru Statement from the Heart “has got to be junked”.

Australia rejected the Voice to Parliament on Saturday, with 61 per cent of voters voting No in the referendum.

“If democracy is to mean anything, the entire Uluru agenda has got to be junked, not just the Voice,” Ms Credlin said.

“Because voters will rightly conclude that the PM doesn’t give a tinkers cuss about what everyday Australians think.

“That he’s more than happy to listen to the Aboriginal establishment led by Noel Pearson and Marcia Langton, but not to the voters in Labor’s traditional heartland which have massively rejected the Uluru agenda.”

Delta A
Delta A
October 18, 2023 2:28 pm

A top post from duncanm at 1:56 PM.

Wouldn’t it be wonderful to have a pollie like this in the LNP, one who campaigns on – and speaks – common sense?

Vicki
Vicki
October 18, 2023 2:34 pm

RAAF doing low level flying training for recruits in our valley. This was a regular occurrence years ago – but not so in the last few years. Great to see it. I have amazing footage. Interesting that it has resumed.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
October 18, 2023 2:36 pm

Mate’s sister went to St Bernadettes, particularly nasty Nun wacked her with the ruler once too often. Mother storms into the Priest’s office. If that ******* Nun touches my girl again all the kids are going to public schools. She started at my school shortly after. A big deal in those days.

Robert Sewell
October 18, 2023 2:36 pm

Dr Faustus

Oct 18, 2023 12:07 PM
Dr Faustus,
don’t knock the Leaving Certificate it won me a Commonwealth Scholarship to Sydney Uni

OO: Far from it, actually I was just trying to twang Winston’s elastic. It was pretty much my own qualification when I left school in the UK.

You were successful for about 2.3 seconds.
I ended up getting my HSC by going back to night school 3 nights/week. Not easy while working in Qld sunshine at a pipelaying job. But it was enough to get me into nursing when I was 23.

Luckily, I just happened to ‘get’ mathematics and came away with a GCSE O-level – which took me through night school and eventually, via a scholarship, to uni.

Robert Sewell
October 18, 2023 2:38 pm

apologies – that was a cutnpaste blunder:
The last paragraph is Doc Faustus’s.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
October 18, 2023 2:41 pm

Delta I liked the way he didn’t go on the defensive or justify himself. The interviewer was like a stunned mullet. Oh, don’t worry about the SFL, it’ll never happen. Spineless SFL and lying Liars, thats it. I forgot stupid voters.

Diogenes
Diogenes
October 18, 2023 2:43 pm

Oct 18, 2023 1:24 PM
caveman
Oct 18, 2023 1:24 PM

God dam,who let this mutherf##ker poo ona plane

Bangladesh or Parkistan?”

In 1972 I was travelling Lufthansa Syd – Frankfurt as an unaccompanied minor. We had to get a new plane in Athens , our previous stop was New Delhi (Syd sin BKK new Delhi Athens Rome Frankfurt) the stuff was running along the flies and was so bad you taste it in the air.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
October 18, 2023 2:45 pm

“truth telling” is exactly what he thinks it is. Making stuff up so he can funnel money into buying votes.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
October 18, 2023 2:46 pm

Like a “smart” schoolgirl completely out of her depth & unaware of how little she knows or understands.)

There’s a lot of it about.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 18, 2023 2:48 pm

Victoria’s Secret reportedly ditches prioritising wokeness over ‘sexiness’ after sales drop, revenue down by five per cent

The lingerie brand’s diversity initiatives have “not been enough to carry the day” financially, according to Victoria’s Secret executives – No Shit Sherlock Moment.

Helen Davidson (nmrn)
Helen Davidson (nmrn)
October 18, 2023 2:49 pm

The no vote in the referendum rejected constitutional recognition through a voice to parliament but did not reject the policies of truth telling and treaty-making, several Labor MPs have argued

Apparently the argument is that there are two different types of No voters – the ‘dinosaurs and dickheads’ who were lead astray by ‘misinformation’; and the ‘progressives’ who voted no because the proposal was too modest and didn’t go far enough.

I think some West Sydney (and equivalents in other states), might be seriously misjudging the number of ‘progressives’ in their electorates.

Vicki
Vicki
October 18, 2023 2:49 pm

This afternoon husband, who is sick in bed with combination of hay fever & “man cold”, watched a replay of The Lighthorsemen, portraying the charge at Beersheba. Again, an interesting time to replay.

An amazing film. I have to turn may eyes away when I see our blokes shot from their horses’ backs, and the destruction of their mounts. A horse breeder and her husband in our valley went to Israel in 2018 to take part in a “charge” to commemorate the anniversary of the charge, in which her great grandfather had taken part. I think the idea was probably more moving than the occasion, as the Israelis provided mounts which were pretty “average”. Even so, it was a moving experience.

Many beliefs about the disposal of the Australian horses after the war which have entered history books, have been shown to be incorrect. Sandy, the mounts the Brigadier-General is said to be the only Australian mount to make it home. It has entered folklore that the mounted soldiers shot their mounts at the end of the war, rather than have them be left with the locals. In fact, many of these marvellous “Walers” were so valued they were shipped by the Brits back home and to various other duties.

Zatara
Zatara
October 18, 2023 2:51 pm

When marxist progressive policies turn on the commissars…

Democrats Schiff, Porter urged to drop out of California Senate race because they’re White in name of ‘genuine equality’

“Make your opponent live up to its own book of rules.”

Lovin it.

Helen Davidson (nmrn)
Helen Davidson (nmrn)
October 18, 2023 2:53 pm

Actually if the Libs promised to do the former it would be excellent policy, since the ABC was such a Voice fan. And they could recruit lots of aboriginal people into good jobs if they were located in Alice. Can you get almond milk lattes in Alice Springs? Maybe their union could ask.

Unfortunately, Alice Springs is large enough that they could probably get their almond milk lattes.

However, now that the Covid lockdowns have shown that working remotely and collaborating via Zoom meetings is perfectly acceptable, there is no reason they couldn’t be placed in Borroloola or, for the really socially aware, Wadeye or Yuendumu.

🙂

Robert Sewell
October 18, 2023 2:55 pm

Old Ozzie:

As Fox News Channel’s Trey Yingst pointed out, every claim from Hamas and subsequent reporting of those claims must be scrutinized and verified — but that hasn’t stopped pro-Hamas media outlets from quickly parroting their anti-Israel narrative.

As soon as the Israeli denials start gaining traction, the media will quickly move on to the next story. They do it EVERY time, and they know precisely what they’re doing.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 18, 2023 2:56 pm

‘Meltdown’: Australian left ‘not coping well’ with Voice loss

Sky News host Rita Panahi says the Australian left is “not coping well” following the loss of the Voice referendum.

Ms Panahi said the meltdown has been both “widespread” and “hilarious”.

“We’ve seen our cricketers needing counselling, we’ve had guardian journals calling the whole country racist,” she said.

“We have ‘The Project’ and Waleed Aly’s remarks which many are seeing as sneering and condescending.”

Ms Panahi was joined by Sky News contributor Kosha Gada to discuss the reaction to the Voice to Parliament’s rejection.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 18, 2023 2:58 pm

17 minutes ago
Ley jabs Burney over failed referendum
Rosie Lewis
Rosie Lewis

Deputy Liberal leader Sussan Ley’s up next attempting to put pressure on the government over treaty and truth-telling. She asks Indigenous Australians Minister Linda Burney her first question since the referendum result.

“The Minister has previously stated the Makarrata commission is ‘really code for treaty without saying it’. Is the Minister still committed to treaty and truth-telling?”

Ms Burney doesn’t answer the question but notes some of the areas where there was high support from Indigenous Australians. She says the government respects the result and decision of Australians.

“Our focus has always been on getting better results for Indigenous Australians. I think that is something that we all agree on,” Ms Burney says.

Isn’t it time Auntie Gucci was called on to “show cause why she should remain in Parliament?”

duncanm
duncanm
October 18, 2023 3:03 pm

Honestly.. these Gaza injuries photos are so obviously staged.

See This image, which appears in the ABC’s Gaza hospital report

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 18, 2023 3:04 pm

Many beliefs about the disposal of the Australian horses after the war which have entered history books, have been shown to be incorrect.

Part of the difficulty arose when Australian soldiers had been allowed to bring their horses home from the Boer War – the Australian agricultural sector took a fair beating from a couple of diseases that were introduced as a result.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 18, 2023 3:05 pm

dover0beach

Oct 18, 2023 11:45 AM

Of all the possibilities, I think we can exclude Hamas dropping a bomb on the hospital.

Based on what?
How do you know it wasn’t Hamas munitions?

Pogria
Pogria
October 18, 2023 3:08 pm

Old Ozzie,
re, your link to the Victoria’s Secret article,

“Cathaleen Chen reported that the brand’s efforts to promote inclusivity – which included making LGBTQ pro women’s soccer player and outspoken leftist Megan Rapinoe, as well as a transgender woman, brand spokesmodels and getting rid of its famous “Angels” supermodels – gained “favorable reviews from online critics [but] never translated into sales.”

As you said, No Shit Sherlock”.

I would never buy anything that Rapinoe was dressed in, nor a tranny, no matter how attractive the outfit may be. Although, Rapinoe could wear the most tecnologically advanced outfit that claims 100% to beautify the wearer, and I wouldn’t touch it with the proverbial barge pole. Same for trannies.
I gave up on Dove, Neutrogena, Gillette, any brand that has gone woke.

Pogria
Pogria
October 18, 2023 3:09 pm

Bugger, formatting. Italicised the wrong paragraph.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 18, 2023 3:09 pm

Television footage shows Mr Albanese saying: ‘Regardless of what white people voted…’

However, the PM’s office insists he actually said ‘…what WAY people voted’. – Bull Shit – Listen

Comments by Radio 2GB’s Ray Hadley and Sky News Australia host Paul Murray triggered a swift reaction from the PM’s office.

Hadley said he had been bombarded by messages from the PM’s staffers since he first raised the apparent inflammatory comment.

‘Haven’t we struck a nerve with the Prime Minister?’ Hadley said on his show on Tuesday. ‘I’ve never heard from the Prime Minister’s office so many times.

‘They [usually] won’t speak to us – and all of a sudden, a plethora of phone calls from indignant members of the office.’

Murray attacked the reply as an example of how out of touch the PM was, and in denial about the catastrophic rejection of the Voice proposal.

‘The idea the result of 60/40 No is because white people voted against it is a complete blind spot about what went wrong on the weekend,’ said Murray.

The PM’s media team referred inquiries to the official Hansard record of the session which offers yet another version of what was said.

It says the PM said ‘regardless of the way people voted in this referendum’ – but audio and video from Parliament clearly shows that’s not the full quote.

Some have likened the soundbite to the notorious blue dress/white dress meme that appeared to change colour with every glance which swept the internet in 2015.

Listeners to the PM’s comment have been able to hear both the ‘way’ and ‘white’ versions of his reply after repeated replays.

Hadley still insisted on his show that the PM should come clean and admit his blunder.

‘We’re not suggesting that he did it deliberately,’ he said. ‘What we’re suggesting is, he made a mistake.’

Hadley believes the PM’s office then coerced Hansard to change the record to the sanitised version which it published, which was strongly refuted by the PMO.

‘He might have meant to say “what way people voted”, but it didn’t come out like that,’ said Hadley.

‘I’m sorry – Hansard may be reporting “regardless of the way” but this is what the Prime Minister actually said on the floor of Parliament.

‘He’s obviously made a blue and all of a sudden, “How dare you impugn our integrity? How dare you? Of course, we wouldn’t change Hansard.”

‘No. Someone must have intervened. He’s made a mistake. I’m not crucifying him, but I’ll tell you what – they’re very sensitive after what happened over the weekend.

‘They’ve obviously had no sleep…’

duncanm
duncanm
October 18, 2023 3:11 pm

All the hospital explosion videos show a fireball.

Compare that with any Israeli artillery or bombing. Zero flames, just concussion and explosions.

Here’s an purported video of the Hamas launching and failure resulting in a big orange boom.

https://twitter.com/dudupr/status/1714402154696331553

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 18, 2023 3:25 pm

Anthony Albanese sparks storm for seeming to blame ‘white people’ for Voice defeat

PM spoke of respecting Indigenous people after Voice vote
He said ‘Regardless of what white people voted’

From the Comments

– Lost the plot. Racist remark

– Albasleezy needs to be SACKED !!!

– He must go.

– Albo needs to resign now. Worst PM ever.

– OMG I knew albo was stupid but this is another level. Unbelievable. The majority of taxpayers are the ‘white’ people who pay his wages. Some respect, please. He has to go

– No Voice No Labor No Airbus Albo game set & match

– He hasn’t stop whinging. Ffs move on, we have people living in cars and can’t buy food and you are trying to justify your failure.

– Sound like white people to me

– It’s quite clear he said “white” and whilst that may have been a slip of the tongue it’s unbelievable that this has been massaged in Hansard. Once again an example of how to lose trust with the Australian public.

– Guy needs to step down before the public drag him down kicking and screaming.

– Albo we don’t appreciate you referring to us as “White” people…. your racism is showing

– THE most despised man in Australia….

– The audacity of this man is unbelievable. He should have stepped down as PM on Sunday as he so out of touch with the people he’s supposed to represent.

Clearly Albo said “white people” The Hansard has been doctored by the Albo regime.

The people of Australia have voted NO to the Voice which includes the Uluru Statement from the wallet. Australians voted NO to treaty and Makarrata. Why is Albo ignoring Australians? He had already allocated $26 million dollars of Australian taxpayer money to the Makarrata Commission which has spent $1 million to date.

– He really is clueless to the insults he seems to enjoy bestowing on others..almost daily

– I played the video 10 times, I heard White people. he 100% said white people

Robert Sewell
October 18, 2023 3:28 pm

Old Ozzie:

The lingerie brand’s diversity initiatives have “not been enough to carry the day” financially, according to Victoria’s Secret executives – No Shit Sherlock Moment.

My boycott has obviously had a tremendous effect.

Razey
Razey
October 18, 2023 3:30 pm

Commie Alcosleazy in the doghouse now. The bastards still want to make ‘treaties’ with the aboriginals. LOL. Political suicide now.

calli
calli
October 18, 2023 3:33 pm

The Beloved’s grandfather shot his horse. There was no prospect of having it shipped anywhere. He told me so, his eyes rheumy with suppressed tears.

Other animals may have been luckier, depending upon curcumstances.

He despised the ME types. He said he couldn’t bring himself to leave the creature behind to its fate.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 18, 2023 3:33 pm

‘Israel didn’t do it’: Leading defence analyst declares Islamic terrorists launched a deadly rocket that hit a Gaza hospital

A leading defence analyst has concluded Israel did not launch an air strike on a hospital in Gaza that killed hundreds, as a dossier of evidence is prepared.

An Australian defence expert said there is “very little evidence” Israel is responsible for a blast at a hospital in Gaza that killed hundreds of civilians.

Malcolm Davis, a senior analyst in defence strategy and capability at the Australian Strategic Policy Institute, said the most likely culprit is the terror group Islamic Jihad, which supports Hamas.

Scores of civilians had been seeking shelter and medical care at al-Ahli Arab Hospital when it was struck with a rocket.

“Israelis are not going to make a horrendous mistake like attacking a hospital for civilians right at the point when it‘s in their strategic interest to ensure as much of backing as possible,” Mr Davis told ABC News 24.

“You can see the consequences of this action if the Israelis had done this, it would have been an incredible own goal of sorts to essentially kill large numbers of civilians deliberately.

“The Israelis don‘t do that.

Yes, civilians are being killed in these air strikes but primarily because Hamas is refusing to let [civilians] withdraw.

So, I don’t believe the claims were coming out of Hamas that the Israeli’s were behind this.”

Videos that have emerged today in the wake of the attack appear to show rockets “being launched from Gaza and then misfiring, then coming back down in a civilian area,” Mr David added.

“It suggests either it was a faulty rocket of that [Israel Jihad] made an error when they launched it.”

Israel to release dossier

Israel’s Defence Force claims its radars showed “outgoing rocket fire” at the same time as a blast at a Gaza hospital, which killed hundreds.

A spokesperson also claimed Israel intercepted radio communications between Israel Jihad terrorist group members indicating it had fired the rockets.

Israel has confirmed there were no forces active in the area at the time of the attack, the spokesperson added.

Aerial drone footage, which has not been released, also shows an explosion that is “inconsistent” with Israeli weaponry.

A dossier of “evidence” will be prepared and presented to US President Joe Biden when he arrives in Tel Aviv later today.

Vision ‘proves’ rockets originated in Gaza

Several video clips have been released appearing to show a barrage of rockets originated in Gaza headed for targets in Israel, moments before a deadly blast at a hospital that has killed 500 people.

Vision, which has not been independently verified, is circulating online that Israelis say “proves” the blast was caused by a failed rocket strike launched from within Palestine.

In one, CCTV footage is said to show the moment a rocket fired from within the Gaza Strip fell short and exploded in Palestine.

That vision appears to match similar footage shot and broadcast by the television outlet Al Jazeera, which also shows a rocket misfire landing in Gaza.

And another clip shared online by Palestinian media outlets also reportedly depicts the moment of the blast at the hospital.

cohenite
October 18, 2023 3:33 pm

Arky
Oct 18, 2023 10:54 AM
The Israeli spokesman starts off mild and fairly scripted, but when the Sky news hysterical bint oversteps he eventually goes her.
Comments under the vid are devastating.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1f0youDkhk

What an arrogant cu.t. Personifies the media. She needs to be dropped into the Gaza so she can test her superior, moral views. At heart she is a Nazi. I don’t use anti-semite, they’re Nazis.

calli
calli
October 18, 2023 3:34 pm

This was back in the very late 70’s. We had been going through some of his photo albums. For some odd reason he took a shine to me. He didn’t really like anyone else. And usually told them so, the old coot. 😀

Delta A
Delta A
October 18, 2023 3:34 pm

My boycott has obviously had a tremendous effect.

I’d give you a smily face emoji, but I’ve forgotten the sequence.

calli
calli
October 18, 2023 3:38 pm

It might be a “story his grandpa told me”, but I don’t think so. The old fellow wasn’t disposed to liars, old school and still thought he’d be struck by lightning if he so much as stepped a toenail out of the truth.

The animal was from NSW, not sure if it was a stock horse. The family had a farm around Ryde.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 18, 2023 3:38 pm

Dr Faustus
Oct 18, 2023 1:09 PM
On Albanese’s resignation.

On form, the little Trot will be looking for political backup from the currently silent First Nations industry –

Speaking of which, is the (culturally appropriated) “First Nations ” (sic) flag still hoisted to the (culturally appropriated) half mast level in mourning?

calli
calli
October 18, 2023 3:40 pm

I was thinking that, cohenite.

Since she was so free with her eyewitness observations, perhaps she can pop over and interview Hamas.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 18, 2023 3:45 pm

flyingduk
Oct 18, 2023 1:42 PM
ABC (why do I bother) now using aboriginal names for Australian cities, followed, in parentheses, by their common (real) names.

Because these cities all existed prior to the arrival of the Brits?… and were stolen from the ‘first people’, just like the rest of the country?

It’s all in Perfesser Bruce Pascoe’s book. Didn’t you read it?

Razey
Razey
October 18, 2023 3:46 pm

It’s not relevant what gets destroyed in Gaza. They started it.

Israel will finish it.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 18, 2023 3:47 pm

Here’s another bizarre fact.

According to an Oct. 13 New York Times article, Hamas fighters who flew paragliders into Israel to massacre Jews did their training in Lebanon.

It seems highly unlikely that the United States, with intense intelligence operations right there, somehow missed the hordes of paragliders all of sudden randomly flocking to do training in Lebanon at the same time—not least because the U.S. ambassador to Lebanon, Dorothy Shea, is a paragliding enthusiast who posted videos of her own airborne adventures as recently as mid-August.

Moreover, sources for the Times piece claimed that for over a year Iran helped plan the Hamas attack in coordination with Hezbollah, using Lebanon and Syria as training grounds.

The Times piece corroborated an Oct. 8 Wall Street Journal article that reported that Iran had planned the invasion and greenlighted it the Monday before.

But reporters at the Journal’s Washington, D.C., bureau, who had no access to the Journal’s foreign sources, were dead set against their Middle East-based colleagues publishing a piece based on their own reporting that made Iran’s role clear.

Their interest was in protecting their official sources in Washington, who continued to deny any Iranian role in the attack.

The Biden administration has no plans to confront a regime that it is keen to arm with a nuclear bomb. Since the Obama administration first began negotiations with the Iranians over their nuclear program, the United States has given Iran tens of billions of dollars and made available to the clerical regime additional hundreds of billions.

Iran, in the eyes of the Biden team, is not a potential belligerent but a prospective partner.

According to an Oct. 13 CNN report, U.S. intelligence agencies produced assessments of Hamas’ activities in the days leading up to the attacks that were based on what the Israelis told them. But “it is unclear if any of these U.S. assessments were shared with Israel.” It appears, then, that the United States had a separate reporting stream it didn’t pass on to the Israelis.

And that’s what concerns the White House. Not the prospect of a war with a terror state the United States has lavishly funded, but the PR mess that will ensue as it becomes clear—as it partly has from the Journal and the Times reports—what exactly Washington withheld from Jerusalem about what the Americans knew about the coming attack, and Iran’s role in sponsoring, planning, and approving it.

As one intelligence source told CNN: “I think what happened is everyone saw these reports and were like, ‘Yeah of course. But we know what this will look like.’”

Sure, Hamas kidnaps an Israeli soldier every now and again. Maybe this time, the embarrassment will finally topple Netanyahu, like the White House has been trying to do since he returned to the prime minister’s office.

But hundreds of hostages, including infants—with U.S. citizens among them? Executing children in front of their parents then killing them, too? Incinerating entire families? Chopping the heads off babies? Shooting mothers and leaving their booby-trapped corpses at the foot of their infants’ cribs so anyone trying to move the deceased would kill everyone in the room?

No one expected that.

So now everyone is attempting to shift blame for the miscalculation of how messy the result would be, while leaving U.S. sponsorship for the author of the attack untouched.

Razey
Razey
October 18, 2023 3:48 pm

ABC (why do I bother) now using aboriginal names for Australian cities, followed, in parentheses, by their common (real) names.

Commie Mouth Piece (ABC) must be defunded immediately.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 18, 2023 3:48 pm

Honestly.. these Gaza injuries photos are so obviously staged.

Staged? How could you possibly say such a thing?

“Scratching action”! Who knew airstrikes could make your crotch itchy?

(That’s from 2012. Pallywood is very entertaining.)

Makka
Makka
October 18, 2023 3:53 pm

Iran, in the eyes of the Biden team, is not a potential belligerent but a prospective partner.

A partnership with devils. After all that we have seen these last few years from this horrible administration of freaks and perverts, why does this ring so true?

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 18, 2023 3:56 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Oct 18, 2023 2:12 PM
Greens plan senate motion against Gaza ‘invasion’
Jess Malcolm
Ben Packham

The Greens are proposing to move a motion in the Senate to oppose Israel’s “invasion of Gaza”.

I’m sure such a motion will make the I.D.F. quake in their boots.

Note from Bibi to the Head of MOSSAD: “When you have a moment …”

NADT.

Entropy
Entropy
October 18, 2023 3:57 pm

For some odd reason he took a shine to me.

nothing odd about it Calli.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
October 18, 2023 3:57 pm

Calli, your reminiscing of the WW1 horses and their fate at the end of the war reminded me of the story of Bill The Bastard, the great cantankerous warhorse.

Honoured by a statue in 2022 at Murrumburrah NSW.

Apparently he didn’t suffer the fate of so many and returned to service in Gallipoli and reportedly ended up as a workhouse for Turkish farmers.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 18, 2023 3:58 pm

calli
Oct 18, 2023 2:18 PM
The no vote in the referendum rejected constitutional recognition through a voice to parliament but did not reject the policies of truth telling and treaty-making, several Labor MPs have argued

Bull. The question was never asked, the “policies” never showcased.

What exactly are these policies? Where are they offered to the Australian people? On what basis are these “educated” nincompoops trying to foist them upon us?

Had those policies been showcased, the 60/40% split would have been nearer to 90/10%

Cassie of Sydney
October 18, 2023 4:03 pm

I had a conversation with a friend last night, and she started yelling at me. She ranted and raved, blaming Netanyahu and the religious who live in settlements in Judea and Samaria, yelling at me that too many IDF are stationed around settlements in Judea and Samaria rather than on the border with Gaza.

We Jews are grief stricken.

The Australian has uploaded this, it’s nice and helps mitigate some of the grief and anger…

When Hamas attacked, this Israeli kibbutz fought back and won

A dozen volunteers defended the families of a farming community in southern Israel from Hamas fighters who came to take hostages.
By DAVID S. CLOUD

Levi, a former Israeli soldier, said he froze for a few seconds, thinking of the danger to his family. Then he heard Rosenberg, a few houses away, open fire, prompting Levi to start shooting at the attackers from his living-room window.

Noam Kazaz, 52, who had evacuated with his family to the house of another kibbutz resident shortly after his own was hit by a rocket, called Rosenberg. “We will die on the fence. No one is entering the kibbutz,” he recalled saying before he opened fire.

The three volunteers hadn’t trained to shoot at such a far range. But their heavy gunfire prompted the motorcycle driver to turn around. The men riding on the truck jumped off and flattened on the ground. Levi thought he could see several had been hit.

They kept shooting for the next 90 minutes, until Israeli soldiers arrived at Levi’s house. “I’m from the squad, I’m from the squad,” Levi yelled to the soldiers. “I’m an Israeli. Please don’t shoot me.” Then he went into the shelter and hugged his family. Instead of staying amid the shattered glass in their living room, they went to Rosenberg’s house for the comfort of being with neighbours.

Israeli soldiers spent the following three days going house to house, looking for any attackers who might be still hiding on the kibbutz. The bodies of eight militants were recovered, one resident said. Two more were killed after troops found them hiding in a cow shed. Another was captured, and the rest were driven off.

No Mefalsim residents were killed or taken hostage, protected by a dozen residents, many of them former Israeli soldiers, who had prepared for years to defend the kibbutz.

Mefalsim also got lucky. Although the defenders didn’t know exactly how many attackers infiltrated the kibbutz, they estimated it was probably around 25 to 30, a group smaller than those that attacked other local communities, which suffered far more casualties.

Residents departed after the battle, many of them relocating to a beachfront hotel north of Tel Aviv. Mefalsim has been declared a military zone and is closed. Most of the residents say they will return and rebuild their homes.

“There is a feeling of discomfort that we survived, and others did not,” security chief Kaplan said.

But Mefalsim, at least, had survived.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 18, 2023 4:06 pm

Vicki

It has entered folklore that the mounted soldiers shot their mounts at the end of the war, rather than have them be left with the locals. In fact, many of these marvellous “Walers” were so valued they were shipped by the Brits back home and to various other duties.

Most were re-allocated to British or Indian cavalry units, which always needed good horses. Those unfit for further service were shot (officially, not unofficially by their riders). The skins, manes and tails and meat were recovered and used or sold. AFAIK, none were sold to the Ayrabs.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 18, 2023 4:06 pm

No live horses, that is. The skins etc, quite possibly.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 18, 2023 4:07 pm

<strong IN ACADEMIC LEFT UNIVERSITIES: MAYBE WE SHOULD JUST SHUT UP?

The moral nihilism and leftist willfulness of American higher education have finally been exposed by the harsh light of the Hamas barbarism, and for a change there are consequences.

So after years of seeing universities issue official statements on ever major event like George Floyd, Trump’s election, Ukraine, etc, uniformly from a leftist perspective, suddenly the Chronicle of Higher Education says—maybe university leaders should stop making statements about every controversial news event, and embrace neutrality instead.. (File under: Barn door, meet horse.)

College leaders are expected to issue statements on behalf of the institution on a variety of current political issues, for instance those related to sex and gender, racism, abortion, global warming and its remedies, regional conflicts, and so on. Such statements clearly please many people on campus.?

But — often less visibly — they disturb others, especially those who hold legitimate alternative views and object to assertions of a single institutional position on the issue in question.? . .

The author, former Harvard medical school dean Jeffrey Flier, repeats himself with an important additional qualification noted in bold:

Institutional leaders are increasingly expected to issue statements on behalf of the university on an array of issues. They do so because they think this is the right thing to do, because they are pressured to do so by a subset of the community that favors the position being articulated, or some combination of these. In such environments, leaders will be — and should be — evaluated in part on which issues they choose to respond to, and how they state their views.

In other words, cowardly administrators give in to the braying left. Every time.

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
October 18, 2023 4:08 pm

Please don’t talk Labor out of TREATY and TRUTH TELLING. Leave them in the dark.

Because if they continue down this path they will be a one term government.
Decimated at the next election, smashed.

Vicki
Vicki
October 18, 2023 4:10 pm

Calli, sadly most of the Light Horse mounts were either shot by their owners ( & many mounts were station horses supplied by their owners) or became cart horses for the Arabs. It was very likely only the best mounts were sent to England.

rosie
rosie
October 18, 2023 4:11 pm

Yes Duncanm; clothes make up immaculate blood dirt on face hands foot.
(And mum’s facial expression)
I saw a snippet waiting somewhere where I swear a little boy being examined was given a pinch to make him cry, nothing the doctor was doing was bothering him, he was calm, then suddenly started crying.

Mark from Melbourne
Mark from Melbourne
October 18, 2023 4:12 pm

I would suggest changing the comment fetch SQL…

Kneel,

Whilst I don’t wish to speak for Dover, all of what you suggest is good sense (well, except the bit about “index everything”), but has already been looked at.

In fact, this site runs on one of the most vanilla WordPress structures it is possible to imagine, and most, if not all, of that database activity is generated from stock standard WP components… no flashy addons here. Capacity has been upped – substantially, various options (including indices) tweaked, CRON jobs scrutinised. All to pretty much no effect. Dover is nothing if not diligent.

I started from exactly your position, but now believe that there is a gremlin in the actual data. SQL tracing and general performance testing would kind of suggest that’s true, but really doesn’t give any further clue, nor does it definitively prove anything. I have had a couple of MySQL/WP gurus look at it, and they are head scratching.

If it is a gremlin in the data, then eliminating that would mean pretty much starting again. Logins and so forth would be lost… definitely a last option.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 18, 2023 4:13 pm

Genocide

The true roots of Islamic Jew-hatred.

October 18, 2023 by David Horowitz

“In the fog of war,” goes an old and time-tested saying, “the first casualty is truth.”

Few comments about the genocidal campaign launched against the Jews by Hamas reflect this better than Fox News’ anchor Shannon Bream’s on-air statement that the majority of Palestinians do not support Hamas.

Oh? Hamas is the elected government of Gaza, and has been so since the Israelis in 2005 voluntarily ended their occupation of what was even then a launching pad for unprovoked terrorist attacks on Jewish population centers – internationally recognized as war crimes.

Has there been a Palestinian leader or protest in Gaza or the West Bank, or abroad, that has denounced the Nazi-like atrocities perpetrated by Hamas against Jewish women, children, and entire defenseless families on October 7?

Is there a Palestinian Party that recognizes Israel or the right of Israel to exist?

From its inception in the 1920s, the Palestinian movement has drawn inspiration from rabid Jew-haters in Europe, and from Germany in particular. In the 1930’s the Muslim Brotherhood translated Mein Kampf into Arabic.

The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem – the George Washington of the Palestinian national movement – was an ardent admirer of Adolf Hitler. When World War II broke out, he moved to Berlin where he recruited an Arab legion for Nazi Germany and laid plans to create an Auschwitz in the Middle East. When the state of Israel was created by the UN in 1948, it was attacked by five Arab dictatorships, whose rallying cry was “Push the Jews into the sea.”

The campaign to destroy the Jewish state has always been a campaign to cleanse the Middle East of Jews the way the Nazis had attempted to cleanse Europe.

It’s rationale – “free Palestine from Israeli occupation” – is an easily disproven lie.

Israel was not created on Arab land. It was created the same way Lebanon, Jordan, Iraq and Syria were created after World War II: out of the ruins of the Turkish empire which had supported the Nazis in their campaign to exterminate the Jews.

The Turks are not Arabs let alone “Palestinians” – a national identity which did not exist at the time. The Turks controlled the land on which Israel and nations like Jordan were created for four hundred years before the creation of the Jewish state.

Jordan has a population seventy percent of whom identify as “Palestinians.” They are ruled by a Hashemite minority.

Vicki
Vicki
October 18, 2023 4:14 pm

For me, there is nothing worse than having to shoot farm animals. Husband doesn’t like to do it either, though he gladly shoots vermin on the property. A local young bloke who works on the neighbouring station, & has a high powered rifle, does the job for us when it is necessary to put down a cow.

Cassie of Sydney
October 18, 2023 4:16 pm

“At heart she is a Nazi. I don’t use anti-semite, they’re Nazis.”

Correct. As are the Australian Greens. The Oz is reporting that the Australian Greens are now openly attacking Israel and calling support for Israel ‘unconscionable’. As I’ve mentioned here, at least the scab is off when it comes to Jew hatred, it’s plain to see, even a blind person can now see it.

I have long argued that the Greens are a Nazi type party, and that anyone who votes for the Greens are doing what Germans did in 1933 when some voted for Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party.

There is zero difference.

Razey
Razey
October 18, 2023 4:17 pm

It seems that the neo-Marxist vision of Australia is fake white aboriginals lording it over everyone else in some kind of bug eating communist utopia. It’s the only conclusion one can derive from their policies.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 18, 2023 4:18 pm

Victoria’s Secret reportedly ditches prioritising wokeness over ‘sexiness’ after sales drop, revenue down by five per cent

There’s a US comic who’s got a bit when he’s doing crowd work.
He’ll focus on a good looking couple and say to the guy “is that your girlfriend…she’s so hot…she reminds me of Lizzo”.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 18, 2023 4:18 pm

OldOzzie
Oct 18, 2023 3:09 PM
Television footage shows Mr Albanese saying: ‘Regardless of what white people voted…’

However, the PM’s office insists he actually said ‘…what WAY people voted’. – Bull Shit – Listen

Look, it’s a simple pronunciation error.

AnAl, as a product of a houso upbringing, uses the modified houso alphabet. The first letter is pronounced as y, and the ninth letter is pronounced oi.

What he said was “… what wy people voted …”, causing the confusion.

Uneducated?

Razey
Razey
October 18, 2023 4:21 pm

Look, it’s a simple pronunciation error.

I listen to it like 10 times, he clearly said white.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 18, 2023 4:31 pm

“They don’t only kill our children, they also kill their own”

At around 19:00 this evening, a failed rocket launch was shown live on air on Al Jazeera. The rocket was launched and fell in Gaza causing an explosion.

They don’t only kill our children, they also kill their own.

Islamic Jihad misfired rocket strikes Gaza hospital, killing hundreds – IDF

Rockets fired by factions in the Gaza Strip often fall short, with Palestinians killed in a number of past such incidents.

The IDF confirmed late Tuesday night that a Palestinian Islamic Jihad failed rocket attack damaged a Gaza hospital, leading to a still-unclear number of deaths.

The army spokesperson gave a press conference declaring that “an analysis of IDF operational systems indicates a barrage of rockets was fired by terrorists in Gaza, passing in close proximity, to the hospital at the time it was hit. Intelligence from a few sources that we have in our hands indicates that the Islamic Jihad is responsible.”

The office also told Israeli media that Israel is in possession of audio recordings in which Islamic Jihad members say out loud that they are responsible for the explosion.

“At around 19:00 this evening, a failed rocket launch was shown live on air on Al Jazeera. The rocket was launched and fell in Gaza causing an explosion,” said Yair Lapid on X, the social media platform formerly known as Twitter.

The IDF said that it had multiple intelligence sources that had confirmed that Islamic Jihad, and not Israel, were responsible, despite accusations by Hamas and some other countries.

“The entire world should know: It was barbaric terrorists in Gaza that attacked the hospital in Gaza and not the IDF. Those who brutally murdered our children also murder their own children,” Netanyahu declared late Tuesday night.

The IDF took two hours to confirm their security assessment before announcing that PIJ was responsible for the explosion.

“An analysis of IDF operational systems indicates that a barrage of rockets was fired by terrorists in Gaza, passing in close proximity to the Al Ahli hospital in Gaza at the time it was hit,” the IDF Spokesperson’s Unit said.

flyingduk
flyingduk
October 18, 2023 4:31 pm

Here’s an purported video of the Hamas launching and failure resulting in a big orange boom.

*If* said vid does depict the hospital strike, it does look much more like a ‘low order’ explosion (relatively slow and fiery), not the much sharper crack of military grade ‘high explosive’. This would suggest it was improvised explosives already at the site which were responsible. In any case, if it wasnt the Israelis, it seems likely there were secondary explosive sources at the site, as the warhead size of the Hamas rockets is likely too small to kill so many.Hamas has a history of co-locating its weapons in civilian targets like hospitals and schools, so its not a large jump to believe they would blow their own hospital for its propaganda effect.

C.L.
C.L.
October 18, 2023 4:34 pm

Murray predicted last night that Albo’s office would replace “white” with something else. He’s gunna love this.

rosie
rosie
October 18, 2023 4:39 pm

Dover wasn’t that the same hospital?
A different building, the new cancer diagnostic centre.
Two floors severely damaged, four staff injured.

JC
JC
October 18, 2023 4:39 pm

Dover, but of course the US would say Israel isn’t America’s poodle in the Mid East. Why would that even be a story as I don’t get it?

Actions speak louder than words and there are two aircraft carriers in the area taking in the sun.

flyingduk
flyingduk
October 18, 2023 4:39 pm

Some one called it a fur missile. I wonder if he gets a treat after.

Dont forget that Police dogs (and horses) are not pets ,but rather weapons, and both were deployed against us by our ‘protect and serve’ police this last 3 years.

JC
JC
October 18, 2023 4:41 pm

Duk

I guess “weapons” can used for good or bad then, right?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 18, 2023 4:41 pm

The Hawker Britton wing of the party should be cleared out in the wake of the Voice failure. NSW Labor is full of drongoes.

Not the only one.
Someone mentioned last night that Deeee Madigan has a Big Website chockers full of Torrie Fighting data.
I strongly suspect that is just Deeee pumping up her own tyres there. The recent snippiness on camera tells me that Luigi is rounding up an entire herd of scapegoats. One target might be pollsters who forgot two basic tenets of their craft:-
1. The trend is your friend (or not if it is heading South). When polls were dropping month by month there seemed to be no overt reaction. I wonder if the Deeee’s in the campaign were assuring them they could Soshul Meeja campaign there way out of it?
2. If Deeee has a Big Website chockers full of Torrie Fighting data, she maybe should have known how soft support for Yes was. I have long believed the 65% Yes polls were based on simple symbolic RRRRRecognition, not the “one with the lot” Megan and Dean and Co came up with. A good pollster would have conducted proper focus groups to tease this out.

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