Open Thread – Mon 23 Oct 2023


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DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
October 23, 2023 12:02 am

Boo.

caveman
caveman
October 23, 2023 12:03 am

🙂

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 23, 2023 12:05 am

Time for Sleep

MatrixTransform
October 23, 2023 12:05 am

c’mon JC … stop wanking and cough it up

Katzenjammer
Katzenjammer
October 23, 2023 12:08 am

It’s a new day – will Israel really do it yet, or still be held back by Brandon.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 23, 2023 12:09 am

Aldi is now selling mini Stollen.
Christmas cannot properly be celebrated without Stollen and schnapps.

It can.
Try harder.

Ben Ean and fruit toast?
McWilliams Royal Reserve and Chiko Rolls?

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 23, 2023 12:18 am

Time for Sleep – Nearly

The 26-year-old analyst who shaped the world’s view of Gaza

Aaron Patrick
Senior correspondent

On Wednesday evening, just before 6pm, a 26-year-old civilian from Canberra began writing a post that would shape views around the world about what had happened at Al-Ahli hospital in Gaza some 15 hours earlier.

In a 31-post thread on X, Nathan Ruser argued that an explosion at the facility couldn’t have been caused by an Israeli bomb or missile, contrary to an allegation by Hamas that was taken seriously by the international media, including the New York Times, which ran a banner headline across its homepage blaming the Jewish state.

Ruser, who works at the Australian Strategic Policy Institute think tank, also challenged an assertion by the Gaza Health Ministry that about 500 people were killed – a toll that threatened to undermine support for Israel in the Western world and had already stopped a meeting in Jordan between President Joe Biden and several Arab leaders.

Ruser wasn’t the only keyboard analyst to question the Palestinian account, but the clarity and timeliness of his posts were unusually influential.

They have been viewed 21 million times. Ruser has since been cited in publications around the world, including The Wall Street Journal, New York Post, The Jerusalem Post and the Daily Express.

By Wednesday’s end European and American media outlets had largely rejected the Palestinian allegations, in part based on Biden’s declaration that “it appears as though it was done by the other team”.

But the information posted by Ruser and others demonstrate a big shift in the world of intelligence gathering:

analysis that was once limited to government and military officials is now available to any person on the internet.

The reason:

the ubiquity of photographs and videos, and cheap satellite imagery, allows computer savvy people without security clearances to assess what’s happening in war zones in almost real time.

Sims-like computer game

Which is what Ruser did. While many readers might have imagined a missile smashed through the hospital’s roof, collapsing the building on the patients and staff inside, Ruser pointed out that the deaths occurred in a car park where the damage occurred in an area covering approximately 15 by 15 metres.

Using what looked like an image from a Sims-like computer game, he argued it was “honestly implausible” that 500 people were present. And that figure could have only been accurate if everyone present died.

Photos showed limited damage to buildings facing the car park – cars 10 metres away were almost unaffected – which made an airstrike unlikely, he said. Trees nearby still had their leaves.

“I want to address the claimed casualty count of 500+ killed, which seems widely inconsistent with the damage we can see,” he wrote.

“None of this absolves the IDF from the countless civilians it has killed in this aerial campaign. There is no excuse for the degree of civilian casualties that the IDF considers acceptable, nor of the siege tactics.

“But it seems extremely clear to me, that much (most (all)) of the initial reporting and discussion surrounding this explosion was inaccurate. The discourse and the reaction has quickly overtaken the facts, and now it seems that the facts don’t really matter.”

Most of what are called open-source analysts now seem to agree that a rocket fired from Gaza fell onto the hospital car park, where the propellant turned into a fireball. The Israel Defence Force blamed Palestine Islamic Jihad, a smaller military group than Hamas that operates in the Gaza Strip.

Ruser declined to be interviewed on Friday. In replies to questions put through a spokesman, he said he hadn’t received any assistance from intelligence agencies or the Israeli government.

Bias allegations

Many of his readers aren’t convinced. Amid plaudits was abuse from people angry that he supported Israeli denials of what looked like a war crime.

As an employee of an organisation part-funded by the Australian Defence Department, he was also exposed to claims that he works for the Western alliance, which supports Israel militarily.

(An ASPI spokesman states that it is guaranteed statutory independence, which is strictly observed.)

Ruser’s response was to threaten to prevent abusers reading his tweets: “If I see any genocidal and hateful crap in my replies and retweets I will absolutely boot you.”

Through the spokesman, he said he was interested in the truth, not taking sides.

“There’ve been dozens or hundreds of times that I’ve been called both pro-Israeli and pro-Palestinian in the past week or so,” he said. “I make conclusions based on where the imagery and the data take me.”

It isn’t the first time his work has attracted international attention. In 2018, while a student at the Australian National University, he realised that soldiers on American bases in Afghanistan were posting their jogging routes on the internet through a program called Strava.

The breach caused the defence forces around the world to review their security arrangements.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
October 23, 2023 1:21 am
Tom
Tom
October 23, 2023 4:00 am
Tom
Tom
October 23, 2023 4:01 am
Tom
Tom
October 23, 2023 4:02 am
Tom
Tom
October 23, 2023 4:02 am
Tom
Tom
October 23, 2023 4:03 am
Tom
Tom
October 23, 2023 4:04 am
Tom
Tom
October 23, 2023 4:05 am
Tom
Tom
October 23, 2023 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
October 23, 2023 4:07 am
rosie
rosie
October 23, 2023 4:07 am

I was one of the millions that read the Ruser thread, it popped up in my timeline because Fisk and someone else I follow follow him.
One obvious thing though, if Hamas were lying about this incident, then they are lying about everything.
So his ‘no excuse for the degree of civilian casualties’ was gratuitous and completely without evidence.
When hamas were running around filming a dead doll you knew the hospital casualties was a big fake but good on him for convincing the wilfully gullible to look again.
I think most of gaza’s dead are hamas terrorists, their immediate families and those who either have been prevented from leaving or decided to take their chances in spite of IDF advice to leave.
What is most preposterous in this hideous event is the willingness to believe the propaganda of the barbaric murderers of 1400, rapists and hostage takers.

Tom
Tom
October 23, 2023 4:08 am
rosie
rosie
October 23, 2023 4:17 am

At the BBC, perhaps Iran should tell their hamas brothers to return the 210 plus hostages.
Iran warns Israel to stop war in Gaza or region will ‘go out of control’

rosie
rosie
October 23, 2023 4:22 am

Yes we know hamas uses teenage boys as manufacturers of munitions, tunnel diggers and terrorists.

more hamas propaganda amplified by the BBC.

Gabor
Gabor
October 23, 2023 4:24 am

Maybe I am a racist?

I don’t think so, but I have a question.

The US has over 300 Mil people and yet recent migrants comprise a disproportional number of federal and state politicians.
How come?
I think being born in the State to become rep only applies for the position of the president?

The same situation applies here, and yet they cry racism at every turn.

rosie
rosie
October 23, 2023 4:31 am

And in the subject of Aboriginal firebrands.
A former colleague once told me about his older brother’s involvement in some Aboriginal black power movement in Brisbane in the 1970s, iirc they’d been getting enthusiastic about someone doing something but it fizzled pretty quickly when it came to the crunch, so much so that they laughed at themselves.
I don’t know about the modern day equivalent except that the modern urbanite activitists seem to be well educated, employed and generally successful yet are far more full of venom, for no discernible reason.

Jorge
Jorge
October 23, 2023 5:15 am

At the BBC, perhaps Iran should tell their hamas brothers to return the 210 plus hostages.

Yes. And why not demand Egypt open the crossing. Gutierrez was there. The UN could set up a refugee camp without any expense to Egypt. Instead all we hear are calls for restraint from Israel.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 23, 2023 5:37 am

According to the Oz, Albo will be in China from Nov 4th & 7th.
After begging for an audience since they were elected 18 months ago, China finally locks in the date.

China forcing Albo to miss Derby Day & the Melbourne Cup.
What an enormous f*ck you by China.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
October 23, 2023 6:08 am
Steve trickler
Steve trickler
October 23, 2023 6:36 am
calli
calli
October 23, 2023 6:43 am

Top of the mornin’. It’s another beautiful day in the bay. Spring is in full swing here, yesterday I noticed a pair of wood ducks had a little army of hatchlings around them – I counted 14. In the end, they will probably have half a dozen fully fledged because eels and other predators.

The butcherbirds are also nesting – they come in for meat, disappear, then come back for more to eat for themselves. They appear to have a lot of “helpers” this year.

The lake is really low – we need some rain desperately.

Beertruk
October 23, 2023 6:48 am

Tim Blair in today’s Tele:

‘FALSE INFO’ ALBANESE’S EACH- WAY BET ON THE VOICE
TIM BLAIR
Mon 23 Oct 2023

Australians have heard the words “misinformation” and “disinformation” a lot lately, even above the desperate shrieking and wailing from upset Yes activists.
But what do these terms mean exactly, and how can ordinary Aussies tell mischievous misinformation from deadly and dangerous disinformation.
And how can we know if either is different from old-fashioned basic information, such as you’d expect from reliable and trusted sources?
Not a problem, readers. Just follow this handy guide and in practically no time at all you’ll be expertly picking the diff between mis, dis and inf.
First up, misinformation. According to Yes enthusiasts, this is what destroyed their quest for a Voice to Parliament.
Following the referendum result last weekend, Indigenous activist Dean Parkin said his Yes23 push had fallen victim to “the single largest misinformation campaign that this country has ever seen”.
Except that it hadn’t fallen victim to any such thing. The No campaign was relatively basic, dependent mainly on a sensible note of caution: “If you don’t know, vote No.”
By contrast the Yes campaign in large part damaged itself through its own deliberate rhetorical imprecision, a tactic intended to draw support from very different voter groups.
The two most prominent Yes campaign assertions were completely at
odds with each other. They were contradictory to the point of being irreconcilable.
In that scenario at least one assertion must be false – or “misinformation”, as Yes folk would put it.
To demonstrate, here’s Prime Minister Anthony Albanese carefully outlining the Voice to Parliament back in January: “What we will be doing is giving Australians the opportunity to enshrine this very simple change. It is a modest change, a very conservative proposal.”
And during the same month: “This is a modest and gracious request for reconciliation by Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples.”
Note the PM’s words: very simple, a modest change, very conservative.
But by May Albanese’s Voice proposal had grown from “a modest change” to some kind of nationwide social justice uprising comparable to the convergence of “a thousand creeks and rivers”.
“This is about people,” Albanese told the Lowitja O’Donoghue oration in Adelaide. “People striving to make themselves heard across our great nation. In the regions and beyond in the remotest corners of our vast continent.
“All those voices rising across Australia like the headwaters of a thousand creeks and rivers joining into a mighty and wonderful current that will converge around each one of us as we step into the booth on referendum day.”
This doesn’t sound simple or modest. It sounds massive and transformative. Destructive, even.
It sounds like the greatest rural flood threat our nation has ever faced, requiring tinnies, outboards and waders to reach deluged regional polling stations.
Most importantly, when combined with Albanese’s previous claims, it sounds like misinformation. Modest and massive don’t mix (also damaging was that the PM’s different opinions for different audiences reinforced his image as a double-talking “each-way Albo”.
The only thing consistent about this bloke is how he’s always on the verge of tears but never quite crying).
Labor’s Yes foot soldiers were similarly mired in misinformation.
During his infamous Marrickville speech former televisual bore Ray Martin declared that the Voice’s “details simply don’t matter. They never did. Honestly, they’re irrelevant”.
He then scolded No voters for not researching those details that didn’t matter: “If you don’t know, find out what you don’t know.”
Misinformation can be accidental or the outcome of misplaced intellectual arrogance.
Disinformation, however, is darker and more deliberate. Claims from Hamas terrorists that Israel had destroyed a hospital and killed 500 people, for example, were pure disinformation.
In fact just about everything Hamas says is either disinformation or a total lie. That might be why so many university students fall for it.
As for the rest of us, it’s probably for the best not to accept pity- pleading casualty estimates from the same goons who previously raped, incinerated, shot or kidnapped thousands of innocent Israeli men, women and children.
Hamas is such a colossal pain in the arse that even other Islamic nations won’t accept its supporters as refugees.
In the turbulent world of Middle Eastern politics that single sentence is probably as close to purely factual information as you’ll ever get.
No mis or dis about it.

Crossie
Crossie
October 23, 2023 6:49 am

One obvious thing though, if Hamas were lying about this incident, then they are lying about everything.
So his ‘no excuse for the degree of civilian casualties’ was gratuitous and completely without evidence.

I stopped reading when I got to that point. Inconsistency kills trust, you may be right about one thing but then wildly wrong about something else because of your inbuilt bias.

rosie
rosie
October 23, 2023 6:49 am

Sorry Calli Melbourne has all the rain, just 3.5 mm short of the October average.

Cassie of Sydney
October 23, 2023 6:53 am

“What is most preposterous in this hideous event is the willingness to believe the propaganda of the barbaric murderers of 1400, rapists and hostage takers”

Anything to justify one’s Jew hatred.

calli
calli
October 23, 2023 6:54 am

So his ‘no excuse for the degree of civilian casualties’ was gratuitous and completely without evidence.

Interesting. He starts with one thing and finishes with the opposite.

It the light of Blair’s Voice piece, it’s logical Albocide.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
October 23, 2023 6:54 am

calli would you like a thumbs down to start the day off in a sour mood? The downthumber must have an RDO or slept in. I’m here to help. My real name is Luigi, doesn’t matter what it is I can make it worse.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
October 23, 2023 6:55 am

Ben Ean and fruit toast. OJ down the front of me.

Crossie
Crossie
October 23, 2023 6:58 am

In fact just about everything Hamas says is either disinformation or a total lie. That might be why so many university students fall for it.

Let’s not forget that western media and politicians also lap it all up without a second thought.

calli
calli
October 23, 2023 7:10 am

Ranga, ever since the plugin was activated, I’ve found the downticks revealing and often amusing. I got used to my shadow plopping a thumb on every single comment, but thought I’d say something every so often just to draw attention to it for the casual viewer. Even made up some dumb memes to celebrate.

Let’s just say my ego remains unharmed by one (or many) downticks. 😀 The old bat in me prefers a verbal disagreement, the curious bit a desire for new information. As neither are forthcoming, I just put it down to either cowardice or stupidity. Or that person has been banned and can’t make any sort of statement.

In the end, it doesn’t matter. The comments always stand or fall on their own intrinsic merit, not anonymous “likes”.

calli
calli
October 23, 2023 7:14 am

Other bird news – our pair of banded rail are back and flitting in and out of the garden. They’re migratory, but there’s very little information on their destinations and habits. Shame they don’t carry passports under their wings, as I’d love to know where they over-winter. Something tells me it can’t be far away, as I don’t think their flying power is particularly good.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
October 23, 2023 7:23 am

When I see the majority of downthumbs I go What! An innocuous comment downthumbed. I either couldn’t care less or say why I disagree. There are so many good comments to get bogged down with mutley level of intelligence. I like how we generally see things in a similar way with slight variations.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
October 23, 2023 7:23 am

Yep. Build this today? Eff off!

Retards think we can.

—-

My Lunch Break:

Fabricated History?</a?

rosie
rosie
October 23, 2023 7:26 am

Nevertheless Ruser got millions of views, successfully challenged the accepted narrative and influenced the international media to walk back.
Also helped by the Americans French Canadians etc now confirming it was a jihad rocket.
And it demonstrates the power of X and the tardiness of the msm.
Want breaking news, go see Elon.

rosie
rosie
October 23, 2023 7:27 am

I see the intelligence insulter is having a late night.

rosie
rosie
October 23, 2023 7:33 am

That stuff is just so dumb.
I remember reading about Circassian slave girls.
, now only 5 pounds

rosie
rosie
October 23, 2023 7:35 am

Circassian women were being sold as slaves in Turkey in the nineteenth century despite most of them being muslim, islamic rules are made to be broken.

MatrixTransform
October 23, 2023 7:38 am

I see the intelligence insulter is having a late night.

I think we have another thesis brewing

jC, rosie … out with it

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
October 23, 2023 7:39 am
rosie
rosie
October 23, 2023 7:40 am

I see someone is self identifying.
Good on you.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 23, 2023 7:42 am

Always revealing when someone actually asks muslims what they think.

57% of US Muslims Believe Hamas Atrocities Justified (22 Oct)

The Cygnal poll is unique in that it polled Muslims in America as a separate group about the Hamas attack on Israel during which the Islamic terrorists massacred civilians, raped and kidnapped women, and killed and kidnapped children.

28% of Muslims in America strongly agree that Hamas was justified whle 29% somewhat agree. On the other side, 16% strongly disagree while 25% somewhat disagree.

Notably, Muslims in America have been following the situation fairly closely, with 44% saying that they have a high awareness of Hamas, 66% believe they’re well informed about the conflict, and 65% believing that they are informed about the Hamas, Fatah lineup of ‘Palestinian’ terror politics.

Given the extent of the Hamas supporting protests here you’d think the muslims in Australia would have a similar outlook.

billie
billie
October 23, 2023 7:44 am

The Yes voters petulance and irritable, spiteful bad temper is quite revealing.

Imagine if the Yes vote had passed and every time they didn’t get their way in parliament we’d be subject to this kind of carry-on, howling and yet more insults about racism.

Methinks too much of their racism is what they see in the mirror.

Each-way Albo and his government will now show us their complete lack of maturity and be 100% negative to anything the Liberal/Nationals do or say, even if it is a good thing for the country. Where did the money go is a current question being asked anywhere it can be, without being censored.

That seems to be where the government has a blind spot, that they are elected to govern the country, not give it away, cut it up or divide it nor do deals internationally that commit us to wars in foreign lands.

On Reddit I was surprised at the shellacking the Yes voters are getting, usually pretty left on their political threads. It seems a lot of people were not pleased with being called racists and misinformed idiots, who knew? Also a place where the money spent already is being questioned.

That was the best chance the Yes camp will ever get, with the current migration intakes, the ratio of Yes to No will only decrease.

They took too much for granted and found their priviledge didn’t extend as far as they thought. Spoiled by so much largesse, now angry when deprived of their expected prize.

Get over it, and take your wlecome to country with you. Australians are absolutely fed up with that stupied imported rubbish.

Pogria
Pogria
October 23, 2023 7:48 am

With the horrors of the last couple of weeks, I hope I can bring a wry smile to your faces with the following video.

Just Stop Oil Eco crazies trying to stop a Bus full of reffos in the UK.
Make sure you have the sound on.

rosie
rosie
October 23, 2023 7:51 am
Dot
Dot
October 23, 2023 7:51 am

Gabor
Oct 23, 2023 4:24 AM
Maybe I am a racist?

I don’t think so, but I have a question.

The US has over 300 Mil people and yet recent migrants comprise a disproportional number of federal and state politicians.
How come?

Tokenism.

Tokenism is a consequence of believing in “intersectionality”.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 23, 2023 7:56 am

Excellent article at Spiked, about the misbegotten “alliance” between the former leftists (now fascists) and the murderers of radical Islam. It confirms the utter failure of multiculturalism to enable maintenance of peaceful societies.

By Brendan O’Neill, so well worth reading.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 23, 2023 7:56 am

Good morning from the Tartaria battlements.

The D-Town BOM site informs me those sweaty punters there are a tick over 150mm down on the October rain average.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
October 23, 2023 8:00 am
Miltonf
Miltonf
October 23, 2023 8:11 am

Yes two very good articles on spiked this morning. The other one about turdberg and the er twats.

Bruce
Bruce
October 23, 2023 8:12 am

Regarding the “Ruser” report:

ANYONE with modest training, can learn to recognize such things as bomb and artillery impact damage.

The shape of an artillery / mortar projectile crater can easily provide information about its type, impact angle, flight path and possible launch site. The “size” of the crater generally identifies the projectile and therefore, the launch weapon. The shape of the crater indicated the direction from which it was fired and the “angle of impact”. Thus it is relatively easy to extrapolate a line from the crater back along the trajectory to a series of plausible launch sites.

ALL “REAL” military forces know how to do this. The advent of portable,battlefield radar, over half a century ago, also refined and sped up the process of initiating “counter-battery fire” against those who launched the first projectile

Damage to buildings can also provide information.

If that car park is only fifteen metres square and surrounded by buildings of various heights, there is a limit to the possible trajectory on which the “device” arrived. If a basic, impact-fuzed 500Kg aerial bomb had landed in the centre of the “square” containing over 500 people, it would be REALLY messy.,with an almost circular crater in the middle. The lateral blast would have shattered every piece of glass facing that square, for blocks around.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 23, 2023 8:12 am

Mentioned earlier – but (the Hun):

A group of Indigenous Yes supporters have attacked No voters, the media, Coalition MPs and conservative think tanks, accusing them of fuelling a “racist” campaign against the Voice.

The authors and signatories of an open letter, which expansively details the reasons some Yes campaign leaders believe the October 14 referendum failed, declined to be named before the three-page document was distributed on Sunday night.

Of course they ‘declined to be named’. And:

“There has always been racism against First Nations people in Australia,” the letter said.

“It increased with multiple daily instances during the campaign and was a powerful driver for the No campaign.

“But this campaign went beyond just racism. ‘If you don’t know – vote No’ gave expression to ignorance and licensed abandonment of civic responsibility on the part of many voters who voted no.”

$40 billion, each and every year doesn’t really seem like the abandonment of civic responsibility*. From upthread:

Imagine if the Yes vote had passed and every time they didn’t get their way in parliament we’d be subject to this kind of carry-on, howling and yet more insults about racism.

Precisely. This wide brown land is now seeing exactly what would have happened if Elbow’s ‘I want you to vote for an idea’ had got over the line, and is breathing hard after realising the size of the bullet it dodged.

*Arguable.

calli
calli
October 23, 2023 8:13 am

57% of US Muslims Believe Hamas Atrocities Justified (22 Oct)

The only surprise is that anyone’s surprised. Just look at the streets of Sydney and Melbourne on the weekend, and listen to the soft-soaping by friends and family you thought you knew better. And who should know better themselves.

lotocoti
lotocoti
October 23, 2023 8:15 am

MetPlod’s flag experts confront the real enemy.

Cassie of Sydney
October 23, 2023 8:21 am

The Jew hatred we see on the streets in the west has been directly sponsored by far-left academia, and much of this was spawned in American ivy league universities, such as Stanford, Princeton, UCLA, Yale and the biggest of them all……Harvard.

The seeds have been sown, the explosives have been planted, the West is probably f*cked. All the social justice warriors are now found in our corporations, our media, our government and even our military.

Further to explosives, I have it on good authority from someone who survived the pogrom of 7 October 2023 in southern Israel, that whilst IDF soldiers arrived at several kibbutzim within hours, it took many more hours to enter houses because explosives had been strewn around homes. The homes had been booby trapped.

The protests across the West are very deliberately parroting the Hamas charter, which calls for the extermination of ALL Jews, note…..not, just Jews in Israel. It is a direct call for genocide, and we are now seeing it and hearing it on our streets. It is no different to the words spoken and the plans enacted at Wannsee in 1942. But today, in 2023, it is being directly sponsored by academia, media, government and police forces.

Perhaps I should call the NSW Police the NSWannsee enablers? Am I being too harsh? Nah, I don’t think so.

Indolent
Indolent
October 23, 2023 8:22 am
Tom
Tom
October 23, 2023 8:26 am

In fact just about everything Hamas says is either disinformation or a total lie. That might be why so many university students fall for it.

Many thanks, Beertruk at 6.48am, for posting Tim Blair — a beaut read.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
October 23, 2023 8:28 am
Indolent
Indolent
October 23, 2023 8:30 am
Boambee John
Boambee John
October 23, 2023 8:31 am

The authors and signatories of an open letter, which expansively details the reasons some Yes campaign leaders believe the October 14 referendum failed, declined to be named before the three-page document was distributed on Sunday night.

“Declined to be named” suggests a major split in the activists, none of whom were shy about putting their names to public statements before the vote.

I wonder how long it will be before those who refused to sign on leak the names of the recalcitrants?

duncanm
duncanm
October 23, 2023 8:37 am

The Gaza hospital bomb looks no worse than an average night in Paris.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 23, 2023 8:38 am

Cassie of Sydney
Oct 23, 2023 8:21 AM
The Jew hatred we see on the streets in the west has been directly sponsored by far-left academia, and much of this was spawned in American ivy league universities, such as Stanford, Princeton, UCLA, Yale and the biggest of them all……Harvard.

And the vehicle used to justify and transmit this hatred is the Great Lie – multiculturalism.

MatrixTransform
October 23, 2023 8:38 am

New Zealand is a Crime Scene:

aww … not that Expose

I’m waiting the big one: Tick-Gate

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 23, 2023 8:39 am

MetPlod’s flag experts confront the real enemy.

Yeah. They’re language experts too.

London Police Declare Calling for Jihad Is Lawful as Word has ‘Number of Meanings’ (22 Oct)

I was wondering to myself how they would treat people shouting “Crusade!” That has a number of meanings too. Doubtful they’d respond quite in the same way.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
October 23, 2023 8:45 am

MatrixTransform
Oct 23, 2023 8:38 AM
New Zealand is a Crime Scene:

aww … not that Expose

I’m waiting the big one: Tick-Gate

Celebrating 100 years of the NSW Cattle Tick Program –

https://www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/stories/celebrating-100-years-of-the-nsw-cattle-tick-program

On a more technical note, there is a call for a Stewards enquiry into all of this recent down thumbing.

duncanm
duncanm
October 23, 2023 8:45 am

ooops – Swiss vote against woke madness and illegal immigration.

duncanm
duncanm
October 23, 2023 8:46 am

snap indolent.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 23, 2023 8:50 am

In Even Their ABC Can Smell a Sinking Ship news:

A sinkhole, toxic gas and the $2 billion mistake behind Snowy 2.0’s blowout

The pumped hydro project, trumpeted as a grand “nation-building” scheme, was first estimated to cost just $2 billion. It’s blown out to $12 billion.

It was expected to produce its first power next year — now, it won’t be keeping any lights on for at least another four years.

Snowy Hydro has revealed to Four Corners as much as $2 billion of this blowout can be blamed on the stalled tunnel boring machine they call Florence.

Its 15km journey below Kosciuszko National Park should be well underway by now, but it’s gone just 150m.

Snowy Hydro’s Top Men explain: Not our fault:

In Snowy Hydro’s words, Florence is “one of the most technically advanced machines in the world”. With a price tag of more than $150 million, it’s not just a tunnelling machine, it’s a mobile factory.

But for the past 19 months, it’s had little chance to show off. It’s barely even moved.

The boasts are based on Florence’s ability to operate in both hard and soft ground.

But to work in soft ground, a so-called “slurry system” should be in place, which helps shore up the ground ahead.

Not only was this slurry system not operating, its key equipment wasn’t even on site.

Luckily, the Isambard Kingdom Brunel of modern politics, the Top Men’s Top Man, is available to give on-the-spot guidance:

The project’s original champion, former prime minister Malcolm Turnbull, is not convinced.

“Clearly, it’s an oversight, it’s wrong. I mean, if you’re going to be dealing with soft ground that needs to be slurried and you don’t have the slurrying kit, you’ve screwed up, haven’t you?”

Pass the parcel.

Technical Note: Snowy 2.0 was expected to backfill the closure of Eraring power station in 2025. It’s stretch target now is to somehow help when Bayswater power station closes in 2030 – and NSW goes black.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
October 23, 2023 8:50 am

Absolutely bonkers.

—–

Dafydd Phillips:

AXALP 23 PATROUILLE SUISSE IN THEIR NATURAL HABITAT – 4K

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 23, 2023 8:50 am

Some extracts from Wiki (probably drafted by a supporter of multiculturalism).

The earliest academic critics of multiculturalism in Australia were the philosophers

Lachlan Chipman[29] and Frank Knopfelmacher,[30] sociologist Tanya Birrell[31] and the political scientist Raymond Sestito.[32][when?] Chipman and Knopfelmacher were concerned with threats to social cohesion, while Birrell’s concern was that multiculturalism obscures the social costs associated with large scale immigration that fall most heavily on the most recently arrived and unskilled immigrants. Sestito’s arguments were based on the role of political parties. He argued that political parties were instrumental in pursuing multicultural policies, and that these policies would put strain on the political system and would not promote better understanding in the Australian community.[33][34]

Those social costs now fall mostly on the unskilled native Australians, who don’t benefit from programs to support immigration and multiculturalism.

Historian Geoffrey Blainey achieved mainstream recognition as a critic of multiculturalism when he wrote that multiculturalism threatened to transform Australia into a “cluster of tribes”. In his 1984 book All for Australia, Blainey criticised Australian multiculturalism for tending to emphasise the rights of ethnic minorities at the expense of the majority population and for being “anti-British”, despite Britons being the largest ethnic group to have migrated to Australia. According to Blainey, such policies created divisions and threatened national cohesion. He argued that “the evidence is clear that many multicultural societies have failed and that the human cost of the failure has been high” and warned that “we should think very carefully about the perils of converting Australia into a giant multicultural laboratory for the assumed benefit of the peoples of the world”.[39]

Blainey was excoriated at the time, but has proven to be smarter than his oh-so “edumacated” critics.

Historian John Hirst argued that while multiculturalism might serve the needs of ethnic politics and the demands of certain ethnic groups for government funding for the promotion of their separate ethnic identity, it is a perilous concept on which to found national policy.[40] Hirst identified contradictory statements by political leaders that suggested the term was a nonsense concept.

Another accurate prophecy.

Critics have argued that multiculturalism was introduced as official policy in Australia without public support or consultation. According to academic Mark Lopez: “Multiculturalism was developed by a small number of academics, social workers and activists, initially located on the fringe of the political arena of immigration, settlement and welfare. The authors responsible for versions of the ideology were also principal actors in the struggle to advance their beliefs and make them government policy”.

Academics, political activists and public servants with time on their hands and a hatred for their own nation.

That one “cultural” (actually fanatical religious) group can march through the streets demanding the deaths of those who are not part of their group, and not be stopped or arrested, is a stark demonstration of the failure of multiculturalism.

alwaysright
alwaysright
October 23, 2023 8:51 am

In contrast, the Greens were expected to see their share of the votes fall by 4 percentage points to 9%, and lose six seats.

Good news from the Suisse vote.
Let’s hope it is a world wide trend.

Dot
Dot
October 23, 2023 8:52 am

More gold from the Daily Expose.

https://expose-news.com/2023/10/22/legal-groups-seek-halt-to-uk-arms-sales-to-israel-over-illegal-attacks-on-civilians-in-palestine/

Never think about the human rights of the raped and murdered Israeli women at the rave cum rape party.

If it was about human rights they could have buried that girl instead of parading her around in the back of a ute screaming “god is great!”.

lotocoti
lotocoti
October 23, 2023 8:53 am

It’s come to this.
Hope they’ve reserved extra seats for the despicable BBC.

flyingduk
flyingduk
October 23, 2023 8:55 am

One obvious thing though, if Hamas were lying about this incident, then they are lying about everything.

‘falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus’ applies to our wise rulers too.

calli
calli
October 23, 2023 9:01 am

Luckily, the Isambard Kingdom Brunel of modern politics, the Top Men’s Top Man, is available to give on-the-spot guidance:

The project’s original champion, former prime minister Malcolm Turnbull, is not convinced.

Ahahaha! Just perfect.

And in other perfect stuff, here’s a meme for your amusement.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 23, 2023 9:03 am

lotocoti
Oct 23, 2023 8:53 AM
It’s come to this.
Hope they’ve reserved extra seats for the despicable BBC.

The western LSM will blur the images (if they show them at all) because to allow the public to see them would be prejudicial.

Roger
Roger
October 23, 2023 9:04 am

Luckily, the Isambard Kingdom Brunel of modern politics, the Top Men’s Top Man, is available to give on-the-spot guidance

Chortle.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 23, 2023 9:05 am

Precisely. This wide brown land is now seeing exactly what would have happened if Elbow’s ‘I want you to vote for an idea’ had got over the line,

Plus every tantrum could be judicated in the high court.
Rule by “Ill sweam and scweam until Im thick”.

Roger
Roger
October 23, 2023 9:09 am

I see a connection between these two reports that appeared in my news feed this morning:

Food insecurity is ‘absolutely everywhere’ in Australia. Most are feeling it for the first time
Foodbank Australia has highlighted a “food security crisis,” after new data revealed a staggering increase in the number of people struggling to put food on the table.

– SBS

Buyer’s remorse for ALP backers as support falls
Voters have swung sharply against the federal government in key states that helped secure victory for Anthony Albanese at the last election.

– The Australian

Surely, ALP backbenchers can join the dots too?

duncanm
duncanm
October 23, 2023 9:11 am

lotocoti
Oct 23, 2023 8:53 AM
It’s come to this.
Hope they’ve reserved extra seats for the despicable BBC.

and idiots in Australia, so called ‘teachers of journalism’, like Wendy Bacon.

JC
JC
October 23, 2023 9:11 am

Today in London. Someone decided to take the Pride Flag to a Palestinian protest. Watch how they welcomed him.

Gays for Palestine doesn’t quite have the same ring to it.

Miltonf
Miltonf
October 23, 2023 9:13 am

Any good Howard might have done is totally cancelled out by his poisonous egg aka Michael Trumble

Top Ender
Top Ender
October 23, 2023 9:13 am

A comparison between the NZ election and the possibility of Elbow losing for the same reasons…

Daily Mail

Miltonf
Miltonf
October 23, 2023 9:18 am

Universities or monoversities as Rabz called them need to be sidelined and rendered irrelevant. We need to move back to institutes of technology without BA(comms) courses ofcouse

Roger
Roger
October 23, 2023 9:20 am

London Police Declare Calling for Jihad Is Lawful as Word has ‘Number of Meanings’ (22 Oct)

When determining meaning, context is everything.

You can’t hide your cowardice behind lazy hermeneutics.

Miltonf
Miltonf
October 23, 2023 9:21 am

London is contemptible place.

Top Ender
Top Ender
October 23, 2023 9:25 am

Brisbane City Council will “pay the rent” through grants to Indigenous organisations under a plan by maverick Greens lord mayoral hopeful Jonathan Sriranganathan.

$40 million proposed.

Courier-Mail

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 23, 2023 9:27 am

and idiots in Australia, so called ‘teachers of journalism’, like Wendy Bacon.

This Mrs Processed Pig?
https://twitter.com/Wendy_Bacon/status/1715641619045859809

Wendy Bacon
@Wendy_Bacon
You’re spreading lies. Eg there were no beheaded babies. I am protesting against genocidal Israeli gov policies & for the rights of Palestinian people

And how in the name of buggery f*ck is anything happening to palestinians “genocide”?
There are many millions in the surrounding nations.
Its like calling the gifting of Prussia to poland at the end of WW2 a genocide rather than a (still nasty) political program.

Roger
Roger
October 23, 2023 9:28 am

Cassie of Sydney
Oct 23, 2023 8:21 AM
The Jew hatred we see on the streets in the west has been directly sponsored by far-left academia, and much of this was spawned in American ivy league universities, such as Stanford, Princeton, UCLA, Yale and the biggest of them all……Harvard.

Bill Maher rips into them this week.

Tom
Tom
October 23, 2023 9:28 am

Buyer’s remorse for ALP backers as support falls
Voters have swung sharply against the federal government in key states that helped secure victory for Anthony Albanese at the last election.

It was only a matter of time before Elbow’s arrogant “leadership” on the referendum became the ALP’s primary vote disappearing up its own fundament.

The clock is ticking, Faceless Men. Too bad the leadership cupboard is bare.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
October 23, 2023 9:29 am
Bourne1879
Bourne1879
October 23, 2023 9:30 am

Seems the Yes leaders are not taking their loss well.

Yet they think they can still have some sort of Voice.

Dead and buried guys. Plus hopefully killed all talk of treaties.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 23, 2023 9:31 am

‘The majority of Australians have committed a shameful act’: Yes campaign blames Coalition for referendum failure

The leaders of the failed Yes campaign have revealed who they blame for the unsuccessful referendum on an Indigenous Voice to Parliament in a draft letter that has leaked to the media.

Australia decisively defeated the referendum on an Indigenous Voice to Parliament on October 14 with more than 60 per cent of the country voting no.

Following the referendum defeat, some within the Yes movement have observed a week of mourning which will presumably expire tomorrow.

The new statement was supposedly written to share the “insights and views of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander leaders, community members and organisations who supported the Yes Campaign”.

From the Comments

– A whole week to write one letter? Wow!!

JC
JC
October 23, 2023 9:31 am

Miltonf
Oct 23, 2023 9:21 AM
London is contemptible place.

No, London is in the top five most beautiful cities in the world. Some of the people suck though. 🙂

amortiser
amortiser
October 23, 2023 9:32 am

Technical Note: Snowy 2.0 was expected to backfill the closure of Eraring power station in 2025. It’s stretch target now is to somehow help when Bayswater power station closes in 2030 – and NSW goes black.

How is this possible? Snowy 2.0 is a pumped hydro project. It requires power to be expended to pump the water back up into the holding dams. It expends more power pumping up than it generates flowing down. Am I missing something here?

Eraring has a generating capacity of 2880mw which will be lost on closure. Total generating capacity will be reduced by more than that if and when Snowy 2.0 comes on line.

How long before the reality cluebat hits?

Roger
Roger
October 23, 2023 9:35 am

‘The majority of Australians have committed a shameful act’

Not taking it well then.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 23, 2023 9:37 am

Labor licking terrorist paws.
Validating the tactic of using their own people as a meat shield from retribution and destruction.
Murray Watt condemns taking of innocent lives in Middle East

Labor senator Murray Watt has told reporters that every civilian life lost in the violence between Israel and Hamas is a tragedy, regardless of which side of the border they come from.

As reported by AAP, the minister said although Israel has a right to defend itself, any further civilian deaths must be stopped:

There’s no difference between an Israeli life and a Palestinian life if we’re talking about innocent civilians on either side of that barrier.

We condemn Hamas for taking those innocent Israeli lives and we want to make sure that no more civilians are lost in Palestine in unfair circumstances.

This comes as two of Watt’s Labor colleagues, Ed Husic and Anne Aly, have condemned the “collective punishment” of Palestinians over the actions of Hamas.

Roger
Roger
October 23, 2023 9:40 am

Brisbane City Council will “pay the rent” through grants to Indigenous organisations under a plan by maverick Greens lord mayoral hopeful Jonathan Sriranganathan.

$40 million proposed.

Let’s test support for this proposal:

Make the levy a voluntary option on rates notices.

alwaysright
alwaysright
October 23, 2023 9:44 am

The leaders of the failed Yes campaign have revealed who they blame for the unsuccessful referendum…

Without a voice, how did this get published?

Top Ender
Top Ender
October 23, 2023 9:47 am

Mayoral hopeful Jonathan Stirringpossum lives on a houseboat on the Brisbane River apparently.

So doesn’t pay rates.

Roger
Roger
October 23, 2023 9:49 am

Gravy train disgorges angry passengers after breaking down at Albotown.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 23, 2023 9:49 am

Seems the Yes leaders are not taking their loss well.

People like these fall in love with themselves as teenagers, clinging with such fervour that the next stage of maturity passes them by – and they remain teenagers forever.

They know everything, everything they like is important, only their friends understand things, everybody else is stupid and/or malevolent, and everything they experience or do is being experienced or being done for the first time in the history of the world.

lotocoti
lotocoti
October 23, 2023 9:51 am

I am protesting against genocidal Israeli gov policies…

Genocidal?
Perhaps the numb slunt should look at the demographics.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 23, 2023 9:53 am

Luckily, the Isambard Kingdom Brunel of modern politics, the Top Men’s Top Man, is available to give on-the-spot guidance:

The project’s original champion, former prime minister Malcolm Turnbull, is not convinced.

Harsh.
But fair.

MatrixTransform
October 23, 2023 9:54 am

Lode,
saw a middle aged bloke on Flinders Lane last week.
was still wearing his Yes t-shirt
caused me to rant to Pete for 15 minutes about “wtf is wrong in people’s heads?”

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 23, 2023 9:55 am

Make the levy a voluntary option on rates notices.

As should any reparations – make them a voluntary option, and let’s see who puts their money where their mouth is.

Roger
Roger
October 23, 2023 9:55 am

Jonathan Sri, presently running for mayor of Brisbane, stepped down as Greens councillor for the Gabba ward earlier this year.

His replacement describes herself as “a queer Black Asian immigrant woman.”

The BCC is about to get a strong dose of intersectionality.

Residents may expect their ‘roads, rates and rubbish’ to improve accordingly.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
October 23, 2023 9:56 am
Top Ender
Top Ender
October 23, 2023 9:58 am

A new Facebook group I’ve just seen:

Albo is a joke!!
9.7K members

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 23, 2023 10:07 am

‘The majority of Australians have committed a shameful act’

So far I’ve got Dinosaur, Dickhead, Racist and Shameful.
I just need a Deplorable and I’ve got Bingo!

calli
calli
October 23, 2023 10:09 am

Wendy Bacon, that old purveyor of propaganda and fabricated hit pieces. Now ties herself unbreakably to a terrorist cause.

If you wonder why our modern “journalists” are the way they are, look no further.

calli
calli
October 23, 2023 10:10 am

You forgot Uneducated Redneck.

My personal favourite.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 23, 2023 10:10 am

Dead and buried guys. Plus hopefully killed all talk of treaties.

But no:

It [the draft letter] also proposed the Uluru Statement from the Heart – from which the referendum question was derived – could be changed ‘to remove the aim of enshrining a First Nations Voice in the Constitution’.

The Yes campaign leaders would still be committed to the Uluru Statement’s aims of Voice, Treaty, Truth, though, and would look at other ways to establish a representative body of the type that was defeated in the referendum.

Which sits slightly uncomfortably with Uncle Luigi’s assurances that this was simply a modest, polite request for recognition.

Tucked away in the “why would I read it?” sealed section of Uluru Statement is a thicket of complex legal and constitutional issues that didn’t get a glance from the Experts and Former Judges who assured us that all was straightforward and ‘legally safe’.

The key Closing the Gap issues – health, justice, education, and the provision of infrastructure and social services in remote locations – are State and Local Government responsibilities. How was the Voice to Federal Parliament going to influence them?

Self determination and traditional law for hundreds of individual groups, remote and urban. How was that ever going to work in a First World setting?

How would it function in terms of governance?
Who would determine and codify it?
Who would police, andjudicate, and enforce it?
How would it interface with mainstream Australia?
Who would fund it?
Who would it apply to?

Restitution and compensation.

Luigi and Team Yes have humbugged, squished and obfuscated their way around these awkward issues using the Modest Voice as the stalking horse.

Looks like they are going to be front and centre issues now.

The Kraken come up for Albanese’s Prime Ministership.

Roger
Roger
October 23, 2023 10:11 am

You forgot Uneducated Redneck.

My personal favourite.

Peace & love, Noel.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 23, 2023 10:12 am

John Schuman (Redgum) on Fb expressing comradely solidarity with Shane Howard (Goanna) for returning his OAM trinket.
Copping a pasting in the comments.

calli
calli
October 23, 2023 10:12 am

That’s cute. We have a couple of Tudor monarchists lurking.

I rather liked those smiling wives. 😀

Vicki
Vicki
October 23, 2023 10:15 am

Wendy Bacon, that old purveyor of propaganda and fabricated hit pieces. Now ties herself unbreakably to a terrorist cause.
If you wonder why our modern “journalists” are the way they are, look no further.

It terrifies me that my granddaughter has been accepted into UTS Communications course. She is the one who goes to her room crying when we discuss women in society, the Aboriginal issue & “climate change”. She is also smart, caring and a very hard worker. So maybe there is hope.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
October 23, 2023 10:15 am

Dead and buried guys. Plus hopefully killed all talk of treaties
Born yesterday?
The push for separatism is as strong as ever, and will maybe get smarter and more devious after losing what many midwits thought was going to be a lay-down misère.
Even before the vote, we saw that a Blair’s Law Unity of political parties, local, state and commonwealth governments, law groups, public servant unions, big businesses and legacy media have all acted like a phantasmagorical backsliding into genetic reckoning is inevitable.
All of the post-vote posturing from Voiceniks shows me that they still think they have right on their side.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 23, 2023 10:17 am

How is this possible? Snowy 2.0 is a pumped hydro project. It requires power to be expended to pump the water back up into the holding dams. It expends more power pumping up than it generates flowing down. Am I missing something here?

Are you an AEMO Arts/Law graduate with
High-level Excel and PowerPoint skills?
No?

Well, look over there then…

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
October 23, 2023 10:17 am
Damon
Damon
October 23, 2023 10:19 am

“Australians are absolutely fed up with that stupied imported rubbish.”

But the ABC is persisting with the ‘Acknowledgment ofCountry’, and now using aboriginal names, followed by their English equivalents, for our largest cities, which, incidentally, didn’t exist at the time of colonisation.

Roger
Roger
October 23, 2023 10:20 am

All of the post-vote posturing from Voiceniks shows me that they still think they have right on their side.

Still, it’s good to know they’re listening to the majority and are prepared to work with all people of goodwill to ensure better outcomes for marginalised aborigines.

[sarc.]

Roger
Roger
October 23, 2023 10:22 am

John Schuman (Redgum) on Fb expressing comradely solidarity with Shane Howard (Goanna) for returning his OAM trinket.

A dinosaur and a dickhead.

alwaysright
alwaysright
October 23, 2023 10:23 am

Are you an AEMO Arts/Law graduate with High-level Excel and PowerPoint skills?

No. I’m just a simple man.
Uneducated redneck scientist

JC
JC
October 23, 2023 10:24 am

Trans

caused me to rant to Pete for 15 minutes about “wtf is wrong in people’s heads?”

That’s the question you ought to be asking the shrink.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
October 23, 2023 10:26 am

The key Closing the Gap issues – health, justice, education, and the provision of infrastructure and social services in remote locations – are State and Local Government responsibilities. How was the Voice to Federal Parliament going to influence them?
I’ve been pointing out for years that both the mainstays of racism claims- school, spot, jobs, shops, policing- and the foundations of western prosperity- individual responsibility and grassroots charity- all grow from the street level. As such maybe the 500 x 65 000 y-o First Nationses should get their sh*t together, nominate Uncles or Leaders Past, Present and Emerging to Voice things at schools and police, instead of being hoodwinked by the espionage seduction ingredients* and striking at the heart of the constitution and attempting to leapfrog their way into the Forever Lodge.

JohnJJJ
JohnJJJ
October 23, 2023 10:28 am

So the Yes campaign now have registered cadres in every suburb. My street has at least five houses. Although they lost, they have a committed network of interfering do-gooders and moral crusaders around the country. This is the real result and we can expect the nudging of policy. There is not an equivalent network for the No.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 23, 2023 10:31 am

No chance of non-lethal humility at least.

Forrest takes grim climate warning to unis (Paywallian, 22 Oct)

Mining billionaire Andrew Forrest has taken on the role of climate prophet, spreading a message on ‘lethal humidity’.

He’s preaching lies to indoctrinated useful idiots. A match made in, um, somewhere.

(And no there’s still nothing unnatural happening.)

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 23, 2023 10:35 am

JohnJJJ

Oct 23, 2023 10:28 AM

So the Yes campaign now have registered cadres in every suburb. My street has at least five houses. 

I think you need to calm down a bit.
There is a bit of angry posturing but it is done.

Tom
Tom
October 23, 2023 10:35 am

John Schuman (Redgum) on Fb expressing comradely solidarity with Shane Howard (Goanna) for returning his OAM trinket.

In a previous life, John Schuman and I were among the young hotheads behind Adelaide’s first “community” (i.e. leftwing radical) radio station. We even did a pilot together for a future radio show that never eventuated.

Being a hothead is supposed to be something you do before you grow up, which Schuman evidently never has.

alwaysright
alwaysright
October 23, 2023 10:36 am

In this “I don’t believe it, unless there is a video” world,
how about we publish photos and videos from the Darwin, Katherine, Alice Springs hospitals of surgeries to repair battered women and children, sexually assaulted toddlers and then ask the Australian electorate what they would like to do about it.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 23, 2023 10:37 am

Even Peter van Ocelet is sticking it to the Yessir dEniAListS.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 23, 2023 10:38 am

John Schuman (Redgum) on Fb expressing comradely solidarity with Shane Howard (Goanna) for returning his OAM trinket.

I did hear “Redgum” described as a group of aging Communists.

Roger
Roger
October 23, 2023 10:39 am

I did hear “Redgum” described as a group of aging Communists.

Superannuated subversives.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 23, 2023 10:42 am

Im doing a presentation for a careers day tomorrow at a 99% Aboriginal school.
Should be interesting.
But im a little stuck, should I take the big red firetruck, or the flash ambulance??

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 23, 2023 10:48 am

how about we publish photos and videos from the Darwin, Katherine, Alice Springs hospitals of surgeries to repair battered women and children, sexually assaulted toddlers and then ask the Australian electorate what they would like to do about it.

Ask what use a Treaty or a Voice would be?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 23, 2023 10:50 am

Is there something wrong with the Cat?
Ticking numbers have dropped right off.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
October 23, 2023 10:51 am

Steve I checked the Celestial calendar, its national fall down day.

Dot
Dot
October 23, 2023 10:52 am

Believe me, if you want to see uneducated rednecks, read the HotCopper forums.

To wit: “Drilling the same tenement more than once is a distraction until they can force us to sell after a consolidation…”

The same people are so clever but won’t start their own mine.

Even if they wanted to nickel and dime the minnows, way more money can be made in finding success.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
October 23, 2023 10:52 am

There have one of mine no matter how meaningless it is Thancho

Roger
Roger
October 23, 2023 10:53 am

Some much needed rain forecast for this neck of the woods later in the week.

We’d need 66mm to reach the long term monthly average.

Little chance of that but should see some inflow into the water tanks.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 23, 2023 10:54 am

https://www.spiked-online.com/2023/10/22/the-islamo-left-is-a-menace-to-jews-and-decency/
Nice article.

The world witnesses the bloodiest pogrom against Jews in 80 years and then central London shakes with the chant that the pogromists themselves will have used. Meanwhile, Trafalgar Square was rocked by hollers of ‘Allahu Akbar’, which will have been the last words some of those Jews in southern Israel heard before they were shot to death or burnt alive. A mob of Hizb ut-Tahrir members held an accompanying demo at which they chanted for ‘Muslim armies’ to invade the Jewish State. What is ‘the solution’ to the problem of Israel, a speaker asked? ‘Jihad! Jihad! Jihad!’, came the chilling reply.

But remember, the British authorities cant do anything as “jihad” may have more meanings.

If I was to claim chanting seig heil and throwing a one armed salute was also meaning “good morning, have a delightful day” how far do you think Id get.

Vicki
Vicki
October 23, 2023 10:54 am

People like these fall in love with themselves as teenagers, clinging with such fervour that the next stage of maturity passes them by – and they remain teenagers forever.

ML – We all know cases like that. However, I think most young radical Lefties grow out of it with life experience. I know that I did. I was an isolated radical in a community of comfortable post war Aussies when our family returned from the country. I had formed a friendship with the daughter of a famous Communist journo who worked on the docks, whose family lived near us, & she was an enormous influence. I copped a lot of flak at school (which didn’t deter me) and it wasn’t until university that I started to rethink a lot of platforms. Even so, I was the only one I’m my circle who opposed our participation in the Vietnam War. Although, conversely, I was the one of the few who would applaud our returned Viet vets in the early Anzac marches.

By my late 20s I had embraced the amazing life that Australia offered in that period – raising a family, building a house, starting businesses, making a contribution to the development of adult education in this country.

Sometimes we are also lucky or unlucky in the close relationships we build around us. I was blessed by marrying a man (an old schoolfriend!) whose confidence and world view embraced mine and enabled both of us to use our abilities to build a wonderful life.

This is why, although my firebrand granddaughter reminds me of myself at that age, for that very reason I am hopeful that the paths and partner she chooses will also clarify the great issues that push youngsters down the radical or conservative pathways.

Cassie of Sydney
October 23, 2023 10:57 am

“Labor senator Murray Watt has told reporters that every civilian life lost in the violence between Israel and Hamas is a tragedy, regardless of which side of the border they come from.”

The slimy, putrid moral equivalence.

Batya Ungar-Sargon calls the media “stenographers for terrorism”.

I call the likes of Watt, Husic, Aly and all the rest of the scum on the left “apologists for terrorists”.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
October 23, 2023 10:58 am

Dot I had a neighbour who was the CFO for a small cap miner. Sounded good on paper. He lived in a Govvie and drove an old Falcon. Pass on that one.

Vicki
Vicki
October 23, 2023 11:02 am

In this “I don’t believe it, unless there is a video” world,
how about we publish photos and videos from the Darwin, Katherine, Alice Springs hospitals of surgeries to repair battered women and children, sexually assaulted toddlers and then ask the Australian electorate what they would like to do about it.

Yet, Australians quickly forgot the information which proceeded John Howard’s Intervention in 2007, and the “Save the Little Children” campaign. Then, as now, we had weeping testimony of female Crown prosecutors from Alice Springs (& Darwin?) disclosing the cases they had seen.

I have never understood how those campaigns did not eradicate much of the assaults on women & children. Changes of government & the reestablishment of patriarchal Aboriginal society had its effect, I guess.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 23, 2023 11:04 am

Some much needed rain forecast for this neck of the woods later in the week.

Brace for climate howling.

Sydney facing water restrictions within a year as dams dip (Terror, 22 Oct, paywalled)

Residents of Sydney’s most exclusive suburb, Point Piper, are among the highest water consumers in the state, The Daily Telegraph can reveal, as Sydney Water launches a campaign to sound the alarm that the Harbour City’s dams are worryingly low.

Boy I bet they wish now to’ve prepared for this catastrophe. Weird huh that they haven’t.

‘Big weight off the shoulders’: Warragamba Dam wall-raising shelved (Silly, 19 Apr)

Zatara
Zatara
October 23, 2023 11:04 am

they chanted for ‘Muslim armies’ to invade the Jewish State.

Perhaps they weren’t around to watch the panicked rout of those muslim armies after the last 2 times they tried that and were destroyed.

Or have very short memories inhabited with butterflies, unicorns and sheep.

Dino Saur
Dino Saur
October 23, 2023 11:04 am

alwaysright.

The passive aggressive very rich grifters, who identify as Aboriginal, are unlikely to speak up for them. Sacrificing their own children and women is a path to activist sainthood which entitles them to mingle with our most educated, inner city sycophants. The Hypocrits R Us mob.

Cassie of Sydney
October 23, 2023 11:06 am

“If I was to claim chanting seig heil and throwing a one armed salute was also meaning “good morning, have a delightful day” how far do you think Id get.”

Yep, imagine if a group of neo-Nazis has congregated on the steps of the Sydney Opera House on Monday night 9 October 2023, chanted “seig heil” and screeched “gas the Jews”….do ya think that the NSW police would have stood back and watched?

Selective politicised policing.

This won’t end well.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 23, 2023 11:08 am

And Austrlian Labor Party, Greens, some TEALS & Clover Moore Support This! – The Images are Horrific!

‘BARBARIC, CRUEL’: Tiny detail in CT scan reveals unthinkable horror

Graphic images released by Israeli authorities show the brutality of the October 7 massacre by Hamas – with CT scans exposing the harrowing final moments of some victims.

Israel-Hamas war: Gruesome images reveal brutality of Hamas massacre

Horror evidence from massacre

Graphic images released by Israeli authorities reportedly show the scale and brutality of the October 7 massacre by Hamas, with evidence of civilians tied up and burned alive and multiple victims, including babies, with their heads cut off.

International media were invited to review forensic evidence of the terror attacks at Israel’s National Center of Forensic Medicine, also known as Abu Kabir, in Tel Aviv last week.

Israeli officials allowed the unprecedented access to the facility, where experts have been trying to identify the mutilated and charred remains of hundreds of people slain in the attacks, in the face of denials by Hamas and scepticism online about some of the most horrific allegations, such as babies being beheaded.

One image shown to journalists was of a charred mass of flesh, alongside a CT scan which revealed two spinal columns — belonging to an adult and a child.

They had been bound together by metal wires before being set alight. “On the scanner, we clearly see two spinal columns,” said the centre’s director Hen Kugel.

“That of a man or a woman, and that of a child. The posture of the two bodies shows that the adult tried to protect the child. They were tied up then burned alive.”

Dr Kugel, who was reduced to tears, said officials “decided to show this horror because there are people who accuse us of lying, of telling stories and of actually showing dog bones”.

“I’ve been doing this job for 31 years,” Dr Kugel said. “I’ve never seen such barbarity, such cruelty, such relentlessness. It’s just atrocious.”

Nurit Boublil, head of the genetic identification unit, said more than 500 bodies had been identified out of the hundreds brought to the centre since October 7.

“Everything is made more difficult by the fact that often those who were tortured were tied together,” Dr Boublil said. “It is therefore possible that in a single bag there are two bodies or even three.”

Dr Kugel said the age of the victims ranged from three months to 90 years old, and that many were without heads.

He told The Media Line they had been decapitated, although admitted that given the state of the bodies it was difficult to tell whether it occurred before or after death and “whether cut off by knife or blown off by RPG”.

“We don’t know how many babies died, or how many elderly people,” Dr Kugel said. “There are also a lot of headless bodies. It will take a little more time to identify everyone.”

Similar work has been ongoing at four other sites in Israel.

One of them is the Shura military base near the central town of Ramla, where refrigerated containers are lined up, each holding up to 50 bodies.

One of the team leaders, Rabbi Israel Weiss, showed the site to a group of journalists.

Rabbi Weiss and other staff said there were signs that many of the victims had been tortured or raped. “Never in my life have I seen the horrors that lie behind us today,” he said.

“I have seen babies, women and men beheaded.

I have seen a pregnant woman with her belly torn open and the baby cut out.

A lot of the women who were brought here were raped.”

alwaysright
alwaysright
October 23, 2023 11:08 am

Selective politicised policing.

This won’t end well.

Same In Danisbad. Has been that way for a long time.

Roger
Roger
October 23, 2023 11:10 am

I think most young radical Lefties grow out of it with life experience.

And a mortgage.

This is why the housing crisis is a long-term political problem for conservatives.

If you don’t have a stake in society, you’re more likely to entertain notions of tearing it down because you’ve less to lose.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 23, 2023 11:11 am

Looking forward to Lord Waffleworth of Vaucluse’s thoughts on tunneling tonight. Should be funnier than regular ALPBC comedy programming. A bit early for the Mebournibad Comedy Festival.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
October 23, 2023 11:12 am

Pass the parcel.

Technical Note: Snowy 2.0 was expected to backfill the closure of Eraring power station in 2025. It’s stretch target now is to somehow help when Bayswater power station closes in 2030 – and NSW goes black.

Blackout Bowen was asked for “Any comments Minister”, however, he like the YES people was sulking in the corner sucking his thumb just like Little Jack Horner.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 23, 2023 11:12 am

I have seen a pregnant woman with her belly torn open and the baby cut out.

And, as the Israeli infantry enter Gaza, the first complaints are made that they aren’t taking prisoners, or accepting surrenders.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
October 23, 2023 11:16 am

‘Need to see leadership’: Dan Tehan calls for PM to answer Yes campaign’s leaked letter slamming ‘shameful’ referendum result

A senior Liberal has implored Anthony Albanese to respond to a draft letter from the Yes campaign addressing the Voice referendum’s defeat, arguing the language used in the statement was “divisive”.

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese has been called on to “show leadership” and answer the Yes campaign’s letter about the failure of the Voice to Parliament referendum.

A strongly worded draft statement from the Yes camp was published in the Sydney Morning Herald on Saturday and was addressed to every member of parliament.

“Only the shameless could say there is no shame in this outcome,” the draft letter said, referencing the referendum defeat.

Speaking to Sky News Australia on Monday, shadow immigration minister Dan Tehan urged the Prime Minister to issue a response.

“I think that the most important thing after the Voice referendum is that the country comes together and I think what we need to see now is leadership from the Prime Minister,” Mr Tehan said.

“We said that this Voice referendum would divide Australia and sadly we are seeing that continue.

Speaking to Sky News Australia on Monday, shadow immigration minister Dan Tehan urged the Prime Minister to issue a response.

“I think that the most important thing after the Voice referendum is that the country comes together and I think what we need to see now is leadership from the Prime Minister,” Mr Tehan said.

“We said that this Voice referendum would divide Australia and sadly we are seeing that continue.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
October 23, 2023 11:18 am

Below from The Australian. Advance Australia was the main support group for the No campaign. However more work is required.

For example last Friday Qld Health and vaccine experts held a meeting to discuss vaccine hesitancy and the role of “misinformation” and seeking help from Federal Government.

“The peak body behind the No campaign for the Indigenous voice to parliament has revealed Labor’s misinformation laws will be its next target, claiming its opponents will attempt to use the legislation to “silence” conser­vative voices.

In an email to supporters, ­Advance Australia said the referendum defeat represented a ­“defence of Australian values” but such values were still under threat.
“You and I destroyed their divisive agenda … even so, they are ­regrouping,” Advance Australia executive director Matthew ­Sheahan said in the email”.

Advance looks like the conservative version of Get Up and has indicated will campaign on issues rather than for political parties.

Roger
Roger
October 23, 2023 11:19 am

‘Need to see leadership’: Dan Tehan calls for PM to answer Yes campaign’s leaked letter slamming ‘shameful’ referendum result

So sorry…he’s out of the country.

Roger
Roger
October 23, 2023 11:21 am

Advance looks like the conservative version of Get Up and has indicated will campaign on issues rather than for political parties.

Yes; well worth bookmarking their website and tipping a few bob their way.

Cory Bernardi is not involved.

MatrixTransform
October 23, 2023 11:22 am

It expends more power pumping up than it generates flowing down

der! but it’s free power from solar and wind
and then you get most of it back
so it’s mostly free

and also … $12B is pretty cheap for a bucket that big

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
October 23, 2023 11:24 am

Bruce of Newcastle
Oct 23, 2023 11:04 AM
Some much needed rain forecast for this neck of the woods later in the week.

Brace for climate howling.

Sydney facing water restrictions within a year as dams dip (Terror, 22 Oct, paywalled)

Now, to turn on that White Elephant called “The Sydney Desalination Plant”. Have they fixed it yet after that devastating hailstorm a few years ago caused a load of damage? Does the Plant still work or is it still in mothballs? Does anyone know?

Questions, questions and even more questions for our fearless Bleeders (formerly known as Leaders) and no farking answers. Only excuses, excuses and even more farking excuses. FFS.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 23, 2023 11:26 am

No “investment” promos from the convicted fraudster today Wodney?
How come you’ve gone quiet on that front?

dopey
dopey
October 23, 2023 11:27 am

Sydney Morning Herald.
” People who voted NO on the basis they won’t vote for something that ‘treats individuals differently ‘ misunderstood what was being offered. There is a difference between horizontal equity that requires the equal treatment of equals; and vertical equity that requires the unequal treatment of unequals in proportion to their inequality. Misuse of the horizontal equity concept has denied justice. ”

Enrico Sondalini, Balgowlah.

Professor of Logic I imagine.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 23, 2023 11:31 am

The Metropolitan Police is a contradiction between briskly effective policing and cringing political managerialism.

There are armed response units patrolling 24/7 – authorised, ready and willing to gun down bad guys on a few minutes’ notice.

At the same time, senior plod is permanently in agony over the risk of giving offence, or the perception of offence that might trigger anything that looks like a career-limiting ‘race riot’.

40 years ago the problem was race and ‘suss’ policing of naughty boys. Today, it’s the more complex issue of organised radical Islam.
Hence jihad gymnastics.

Not in control.

Dino Saur
Dino Saur
October 23, 2023 11:33 am

“Moral equivalence” is being used as though it is some game of “tit for tat”, a “one for one pay back” scheme.. There are times, however, where it it “equates” to a matter of survival which necessitates a tipping of the scales.

Roger
Roger
October 23, 2023 11:35 am

Enrico Sondalini, Balgowlah.

Professor of Logic I imagine.

‘Vertical equity’ sounds a lot like Communism to me.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 23, 2023 11:36 am

Flying an Israeli flag is “divisive” but allowing 10,000 terrorist supporters to hold a rally is not “divisive”.

Sydney Lord Mayor to block proposal to fly Israeli flag outside Town Hall (23 Oct)

Sydney Lord Mayor Clover Moore will block a proposal to fly the Israeli flag outside Town Hall.

Liberal councillor Shauna Jarrett has listed a motion to illuminate Town Hall in the colours of the Israeli flag.

However, Ms Moore says such a move would be divisive, criticising the New South Wales government’s decision to light up the Sydney Opera House in the colours of the Israel flag.

Clover shows her true colours.

Roger
Roger
October 23, 2023 11:40 am

40 years ago the problem was race and ‘suss’ policing of naughty boys. Today, it’s the more complex issue of organised radical Islam.
Hence jihad gymnastics.

Meanwhile, Suella Braverman has called in the Met chief for a please explain.

She needs to make him more afraid of her than he is of the radicals.

Good luck.

Roger
Roger
October 23, 2023 11:41 am

Clover shows her true colours.

Red, black, green and white.

Chris
Chris
October 23, 2023 11:42 am

And, as the Israeli infantry enter Gaza, the first complaints are made that they aren’t taking prisoners, or accepting surrenders.

I am very pleased to hear it.

caveman
caveman
October 23, 2023 11:44 am

‘lethal humidity’.

I’m getting too old for this shit.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 23, 2023 11:52 am

Clover shows her true colours.

Has been doing so for years. Like Chairman Dan it makes no difference. In other mayoral news, Baz is back. A small reception will be held at 6PR around changeover time for afternoon shift.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
October 23, 2023 11:54 am

Meanwhile, Suella Braverman has called in the Met chief for a please explain.
She needs to make him more afraid of her than he is of the radicals.

That’s easily done.
The Met Commish wants to keep his job.

There’s 570,000 reasons (translated to Ozzi) why he’d prefer to remain Commissioner.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 23, 2023 11:55 am

Gimme gimme!

Climate ‘loss and damage’ talks end in failure (Phys.org, 22 Oct)

A crucial meeting on climate “loss and damages” ahead of COP28 ended in failure Saturday, with countries from the global north and south unable to reach an agreement, according to sources involved in the talks.

The agreement to set up a dedicated fund to help vulnerable countries cope with climate “loss and damage” was a flagship achievement of last year’s COP27 talks in Egypt.

But the delegates were unable to reach an agreement and deferred the decision to another meeting due November 3 to 5 in the United Arab Emirates, according to a webcast of the debate on the official YouTube channel of the United Nations.

Ahead of the breakdown, the discussion hit a hurdle over where the funds should be held.

There was a divide over it being managed by the World Bank, accused of being in the hands of the West, or in a new independent structure, called for by many developing nations, but would be time consuming and complex to replenish with new funds.

The failure “is a clear indication of the deep chasm between rich and poor nations”, Harjeet Singh, head of global political strategy for Climate Action Network International, said in a statement to AFP on Saturday.

This stuff is fun. Nothing is happening much climatewise, and when pressed no one actually wants to pay anything. Ok then, we’ll kick that can down the road some more. But in November when we have a meeting in climate criminal oil producer UAE we’ll certainly reach agreement! Also UAE is pleasantly warm unlike someplace like Stockholm say, and there’s plenty of room at the airport for all the private jets.

I wonder if climate campaigners Meghan and Harry will attend?

Harry and Meghan Take Private Jet for Caribbean Holiday After Climate Conference (22 Oct)

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 23, 2023 11:57 am

lethal humidity

Coming from Perf Twiggy is used to a dry heat. Perf people regard humidity the same way vampires treat daylight.

MatrixTransform
October 23, 2023 11:59 am

I’ll do it myself:

the thesis is that MT is a portmanteau of evil characters that inhabits The Cat
capricious and with wicked intent this chimeric creature lives here 24/7 simply to mess with ticks
those who are (rather absurdly) obsessed with ticks have somehow managed to conjure this demonic genius right out of the aether between their own ears

KD, who is a jigsaw edge-profile subject matter expert that can spot “antics” from the tropics when pieces won’t fit properly
JC, the mouth with an ego like a big-red-balloon … one prick is all it takes and he knows for sure who it is
rosie, whose incredulity vortex swirls so large it takes in the whole planet but who cannot possibly fathom how her intelligence gets insulted.
and sancho.
Lego-fact-checker sancho … prior claim on all things said or thunk.
possibly AI that has gained self awareness and thinks its rooly smart

collectively you clowns have crafted a whole imaginary universe of up/down tickers to avoid the obvious
that you’re all just mid-wits who apparently think yr the brainiest evah

pretty sure everybody knows who the culprits are.
ie. you’re smart enough to fool yourselves but not smart enough to fool everybody else

Here’s a hint: stop attacking people you bunch of paranoid loons

I basically just got sick of watching it
poked youse a few to many times
and naturally you obnoxious retards came good on your implicit forum ransom threat to “save” the forum by filling it’s pages full of gibber
and Ive been in your sights ever since

JC, when I say something as simple as ‘stfu youre an idiot’ and a bunch of people up-tick it …
maybe … think the unthinkable …. maybe, all those people just like seeing you get your nose bloodied?
I suspect it is because you are a complete jackass and have been for the life of this forum

Normally people here go quiet or just eventually give up after you clowns start one of your personality assassination campaigns (where is Rex btw?)

Not me.
I’ll take your words and put them in a box with big red bow on it
and then stuff that gift right where the sun don’t shine very bright.

I will wait for the right moment for maximum comic effect.
or while you’re sticking the boot into some other poor random … I’ll drop another SCUD into the middle of your group-wank

some might say, don’t kick the fence because it makes the barking worse.
well bugger that, I don’t even want you silenced, you’re the perfect stone to sharpen my claws on

where’s yr sense of humour gone ya thin-skinned tossers?
I can already hear the whining as youse pivot from Perpetrator to Victim.
but…but…MT attacked me and wont stop.

dish it out
and I’ll give it right back
and I can do it day-in and day-out without repeating the same hackneyed tropes like you fools do

“all year”, I think I said last new years eve or there abouts

learn some manners

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 23, 2023 12:01 pm

‘Need to see leadership’: Dan Tehan calls for PM to answer Yes campaign’s leaked letter slamming ‘shameful’ referendum result

Me. I know. Pick me, sir:

It’s an unsigned draft letter.
I don’t go around randomly responding to pieces of paper for the entertainment of those Opposite who are trying to drag Australia into division for base political purposes…

Lord, I could so be a politician…

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