why don’t Palestinians want peace? With Benny Morris Spectator TV

You’re welcome.

Somebody missed the joke.

The greatest deception men suffer is from their own opinions.

– Leonardo da Vinci

That’s right, Catholics have no idea how to built churches, or cathedrals.
Everyone but you is so dumb.

Like the sign writing, that takes effort.

She is supporting the side that subscribed to “the sword is mightier than the pen”.

Writing is not really their thing. It is some sort of infidel sorcery with its ‘ideas’ and ‘logic’.

Anyone caught by Hamas with a pen is decapitated and the pen made into a very small rocket.

That’s basically all we want too but I doubt we’ll get it any time soon.

James Woods
@RealJamesWoods

I’m just being a fun provocateur, Howie. What else is X good for than that (and straight news from time to time?) I have been in Teslas, and I don’t like them much, but that’s strictly a matter of taste. I don’t like some of the most luxurious gas cars either. The real issue is that I am just sick of Big Government and idiots like AOC interfering with our lives. Drive whatever you want and enjoy. And let me do the same. Just don’t be virtue signaling when you’re sitting on a two-thousand pound battery all day, that will eventually be leaking into a landfill some time in our children’s future. Fair enough?

I’ve been in Hawaii several times over Halloween and the participation was extraordinary. The last time it was almost frightening the way everyone seemed to be disguised.

rosie
Oct 29, 2023 8:03 AM
That’s right, Catholics have no idea how to built churches, or cathedrals.
Everyone but you is so dumb.

You’re a mainstream consuming retard lacking critical thought.

Pence has bowed out. The Bee reports

In Most Popular Move Of Presidential Campaign, Mike Pence Ends Presidential Campaign

They’ve come a long way since they were a quasi-Communist state under the foreign policy sway of the Soviets. But not far enough.

Dot
Oct 29, 2023 8:26 AM

Right back at you.

New World Odor™
@hugh_mankind

-Prof Sucharit Bhakdi

This is the full 12 minutes speech by Prof. Bhakdi, who is always well worth listening to. He saw the dangers before almost anyone else and was warning us against the vaccine since 2020.

Prof Sucharit Bhakdi: The Eternal Dangers of RNA Vaccines

Russell Brand Gives Hilarious Analysis of Trump’s Gag Order

Dot
Oct 29, 2023 8:36 AM

You don’t have a clue. So many excavations around the world showing buildings with at least two stories buried … the mud flood theory has been proved.

Tartaria was also a dead set reality. Fredrick’s Church built buy people with no power tools and marble transported by horse and cart?

Absolute wa*k.

James Campbell:

Almost 20 years ago, when I was a junior staffer in the office of the Liberal MP for the Victorian state seat of Caulfield, I had a ringside seat at one of the many unsuccessful Liberal attempts to wrest what was then the federal electorate of Macnamara from the ALP.

The 2004 battle for Melbourne Ports – as the seat was called in those days – was the first time in Australian history the Liberal and Labor parties had both fielded a Jewish candidate.

It was estimated Ports had the largest number of Jews of any seat in the country, so unsurprisingly Jewish issues, especially funding for schools, played a big part in the campaign.

One of the major themes of our campaign was the Liberals were better on issues of concern to the Jewish community, unlike the Labor Party, which with its pro-Palestinian and anti-Israeli wing, was not to be trusted. The problem with this argument was that incumbent MP Michael Danby and his Labor supporters had an excellent rejoinder: “You think the Labor Party’s bad now, imagine how much worse it would be if Michael wasn’t there!”

In the two decades since, it has been clear when it comes to Israel-Palestine the traffic in the ALP has been all one way, and though it slowed during the six years that Bill Shorten was leader, Jewish community leaders have, in private anyway, been open in their fear that sooner or later, Labor will flip to an overtly anti-Israeli position.

We’re not there yet and there is still time to correct course, but the signs are not good, not if Tony Burke’s interview on ABC Radio National on Friday was anything to go by.

Asked whether he saw what was happening as a genocide, the cabinet minister answered: “I prefer to provide the facts as I just did, and I think your listeners will find their own words to be able to describe it. I think when we go straight to, ‘Do we use this word? Do we use that word?’, we end up in an argument about linguistics. What I want to talk about is what’s happening to individuals.”

The “facts” to which Burke was alluding were that he had framed a series of questions he had been asked by his constituents: “If neither fuel nor water is provided, then people say to me, ‘Who’s going to run out of water first? The family that’s evacuated because their home was bombed or the Hamas fighter? Who’s going to be more affected by the impossibility of importing medicines?

“‘Will it be the Hamas fighter or will it be the people in a hospital?’ The people in the area say to me, ‘When fuel runs out, desalination stops. But also, in a hospital who’s going to have the backup power kept separate from the supplies? The Hamas fighter or the people on life support or a baby in an incubator?’”

The answers may well be obvious but unfortunately that doesn’t make them the fault of the Israelis.

As Zionist Federation of Australia president Jeremy Leibler pointed out: “Hamas is the de facto power in Gaza and is solely responsibility for not just for the distribution of essential supplies to all Gazans, but also for the state of war Gaza now finds itself in.”

Moreover, as Leibler asked, if Hamas has supplies of fuel, food and water, why didn’t Burke call on it to provide them to its own people?

Burke could easily have drawn attention to the plight of Gazans – even saying he thought the Israeli response was disproportionate – without accusing it of the worst crime a state can commit.

That ministers in the Australian government are not prepared to immediately repudiate that idea shows how far the rot has set in.

Didn’t Tony Burke say he was kind of happy that the Palestinian flag was flying at Canterbury Bankstown?

As I mentioned earlier this week, there’s a certain type of woman who goes for this type of thing, and the men who enforce it. It’s as if their “feminism” is a thin veneer over something else entirely.

I remember bondage and masochism being very chic among the elites, even or perhaps especially among feminists, in the late 70s and early 80s. Perhaps it still is just that it’s not publicised since the suburbs did not go for it.

Campbell also reports on the idiot getting up close and personal:

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese has moved to beef-up the federal government’s “dirt unit”, with insiders saying there are big plans to ramp its attacks on Opposition Leader Peter Dutton.

Labor sources have told The Sunday Telegraph that staff in the Prime Minister’s office have in recent weeks been ­diverted into a research unit tasked with investigating the government’s opponents.

The decision to position it inside the PMO has raised ­eyebrows inside the ­government.

Governments have for ­decades employed staff to undertake research on their opponents.

But, under previous government, this work has usually been carried out by staff ­employed in backbench liaison roles — such as the Government Members Secretariat that ­operated under the John Howard government.

Insiders have claimed the creation of the unit was a reversal for Mr Albanese, who had earlier made it clear his distaste for opposition research that in the past has led to scandals involving misuse of taxpayer-funded allowances.

The establishment of the dirt unit comes as sources said the government plans to raise the heat on Mr Dutton.

One source said that “since the Voice” it had been decided “there is going to be a focus on going after Dutton personally.”

Labor insiders have for some time complained about the ad hoc manner in which the party has been conducting ­opposition research.

In March last year a war game run by Julia Gillard’s former chief-of-staff ahead of the May election campaign revealed the party had a lack of research on its opponents.

Under former leader Bill Shorten, the then Labor ­opposition had a dedicated research unit that regularly fed stories to the media on the ALP’s opponents.

That team is believed to have been responsible for digging up the “Choppergate” scandal that led to the downfall of ­former speaker Bronwyn Bishop as well as the story that led to the resignation of minister Sussan Ley, who had used a taxpayer-funded Comcar on the way to buy an apartment.

So a misuse of taxpayer funds isn’t a misuse of taxpayer funds if Albo has his hands on the lever. Got it.

“Proud” was the word he used, I believe.

Ah yes Roger. Thank you.
A tacit admission that he supports the atrocities of Hamas.

One source said that “since the Voice” it had been decided “there is going to be a focus on going after Dutton personally.”

Chuckle.

They think Dutton is their problem.

Double down, I say!

Crossie
Oct 29, 2023 8:49 AM
rosie
Oct 29, 2023 8:03 AM
That’s right, Catholics have no idea how to built churches, or cathedrals.
Everyone but you is so dumb.

We used to know how to build beautiful churches and cathedrals, the recent efforts leave me completely unimpressed.

A building firm today would be clueless as would be the workers. I’ve read a shed load of comments from builders online saying exactly that.

Jon Levi:

proof of old america (a case study)

The ‘AR’ stands for ‘assault rifle’ which means it is a fully automatic weapon specially designed to kill people so they should be banned.

Sure thing – you go first government, lets see yours ‘bought back’ first, to set an example like.

Duk,

The original quote was my mocking the the thinking of the anti-gun liberals like Joy Bayhar (or hiwever it is spelled), that Hogg poseur, high profile Democrats etc.

Thinking like this (although everything is AR-15 now, rather than AK-47.

Anyone else remember the time USA Today showed a diagram of a rifle with a ‘possible modification ‘ – a chainsaw bayonet?

That led to a flood of other ‘possible modifications’ such as hydrogen bombs, aircraft carriers, light sabres, old-timey ship cannons, and my all time favourite: a velociraptor launcher. (Do a Goolag search for ‘USA Today possible modifications meme’ for a refresher. )

A building firm today would be clueless as would be the workers.

St John’s Anglican Cathedral, Brisbane.

Completed 2009.

It’s literally built on a rock on just about the highest point in the CBD, so it’s never been flooded.

We used to know how to build beautiful churches and cathedrals, the recent efforts leave me completely unimpressed.

A building firm today would be clueless as would be the workers. I’ve read a shed load of comments from builders online saying exactly that.

Sagrada Familia Catheral in Barcelona is probably the only exception to the current architectural style poverty. One side of the cathedral is Gaudi’s original construction and after his death the project was taken over by other architects. They are doing a great job, projected to be completed in 2026, where the new side is very different to the Gaudi side yet still a beautiful whole.

The ‘AR’ stands for ‘assault rifle’
Nope. It is the manufacturer, for Armorlite.

Actually, I think it stands for ‘Amirite’. As in when in a dispute over a parking space or taking the last can of beer which is not Bud Lite from a fridge, conflict is resolved by pointing a gun and saying “It’s mine! Amirite?”

**DISCLAIMER**
That.
Was.
A.
Joke.

Excellent Week In Pictures.
“Mr Luigi Goes to Washington” edition.
…
Only joking.
No-one noticed him.

Excellent Week In Pictures.
“Mr Luigi Goes to Washington” edition.
…
Only joking.
No-one noticed him.

And Joe’s already forgotten he was there.

Dot
Oct 29, 2023 9:09 AM

You are clueless on the subject.

No Stevie, I’m a practising Catholic who is well informed about how and why we build so many beautiful churches and cathedrals to the glory of God.
For example
We know the name of the architect of the cathedral in Toledo, (I’ve visited it twice) at which Catholic university he studied, and much much more, not the least of which being that the cathedral is build over the site of the former mosque which most likely replaced a Visigoth cathedral and before that maybe a Roman temple.
I’ve been to so many of these beautiful testimonials, visiting the ruins beneath if they are open to public, from Milan to Grenoble to Merida to Rome.
And yes, there is quite often significant paperwork.
You just wallow in your wilful ignorance.
I do wonder at the purpose of people who wish to undermine our wonderful heritage.

“If that was regaining honour, then the Muslim conception of honour disgraces every Muslim.”

You make a common mistake.

What you need to realise is that for Hamarse and Iran, as well as most Islamic “states”, the concept of honour more closely aligns with pre-WWII Imperial Japan than the concept most “westerners” have of honour. Understand that and you see why they do in fact see what Hamarse did as accruing them honour.

The evidence is clear.

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Jon Levi:

This is an old segment I made on the Salt Lake City Temple and I thought I would re feature it along with a few added bonus parts.

Salt Lake City Mudflood (Investigation)

Indolent
Oct 29, 2023 10:46 AM
Tartaria was also a dead set reality.

Steve, please explain to me what difference it makes one way or the other.

Because their building / construction skills were off the charts … way more superior to anything today. The times lines offered up are made up crap and the logistics to build such structures are mind blowing.

End of the day, there was civilization superior to ours and it’s been covered up. Henry Kissenger had Tartaria on the front of his book World Order

Was he trolling? I think not.

Peta Credlin:

There’s a growing sense that we might already have lived through the best of times and that the near future might not be nearly as bright as the recent past.

At the beginning of 2020, sure, there were trouble spots around the world, yet on a macro scale, the world had never been freer, fairer, more prosperous, and safer.

It’s not that way now.

First, we had the pandemic where much of the world’s population was locked up, supposedly for its own safety, for the best part of two years.

It’s pretty clear now that panic-driven policy to deal with Covid did far more damage than the disease itself, with unprecedented levels of peacetime debt and “Big Brother” government, and the global economic disruption that’s helping to drive the new inflation, plus quite a spike in excess deaths through other diseases that were left untreated while the world obsessed over just one.

One of Covid’s weird paradoxes was the different treatment of Black Lives Matter protesters, who were allowed to break the social-distancing rules with impunity, while – even here in Australia – freedom protesters were arrested en masse after being baton charged, teargassed and shot at with rubber bullets.

It was a clear sign of a democratic political order that was losing its moral grip. Then we had Russia’s completely unprovoked invasion of Ukraine: a reminder that tyrants rolling over borders in Europe is not consigned to history. And now, the 9/11-style raid on Israel by Hamas terrorists has been a wake-up call that apocalyptic Islamist death cults haven’t gone away either, while Iran’s sabre-rattling threatens something approaching a new Holocaust.

And there’s still China, the new communist superpower, economically stronger than the old Soviet Union ever was, bullying all its neighbours, waging intermittent trade wars against us, and wondering whether to take advantage of the global disruption to launch a blitzkrieg across the straits at Taiwan, a practically independent liberal democracy that has never been under the control of communist China in its history. But that hasn’t stopped President Xi Jinping making it a priority of his rule. And at 70 years of age, Xi knows he hasn’t got forever to make it happen.

Initially, the main democracies rallied to Ukraine’s support, and for a time David seemed to be beating Goliath. But now the Ukrainians are hurling themselves against the defences that the Russians had time to build while NATO procrastinated over giving Ukraine the weapons needed to win rather than just to avoid defeat.

And as history has taught, time and time again, one country’s difficulty is another country’s opportunity, especially if the exploiter of chaos is willing to do whatever it takes to win and has no internal dissent. Such is the case with Hamas in Gaza, Iran, China, Russia, and not to forget North Korea, who now make up this new Axis of Evil.

This week, the Prime Minister was in Washington to pledge commitment to the US alliance that has kept Australia safe and the world on a mostly even keel the past 70 years. But thanks to the mayhem in Congress, the new laws needed for us to get nuclear-powered subs, even years away, remain extremely uncertain despite all the flag-waving for the TV cameras while Anthony Albanese was in town.

And straight after gushing in Washington about the importance of a commitment to peace, freedom and justice, he will soon head to Beijing, doubtless there to gush about our friendship with a regime that is a threat to everything he has just praised in the US.

The best you could say is that his messaging will sound confused; his critics would call it hypocritical.

But it creates the worrying impression of a government that doesn’t quite know what it believes and whose side it’s on. Especially when this now inveterate prime ministerial traveller couldn’t manage a stopover in Israel, where the leaders of the US, Britain, France and Germany have already been, or even – as far as we know – a phone call to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu as his country quite literally fights for its right to exist.

Meanwhile, in our parliament, the Greens seem less concerned about Hamas’s unprovoked terrorist savagery than about an Israeli response complicated by the terrorists’ use of hostages and human shields; a senior government minister justifies local councils flying the Palestinian flag in solidarity with those who want Israel wiped off the map; and there’s still no official action against the protesters shouting “gas the Jews” and other profanities from a vast anti-racism apparatus that would have instantly prosecuted any race hate that wasn’t anti-Semitism.

It’s hard to avoid the conclusion that the PM is still shell-shocked from the overwhelmingly defeat of the Voice two weeks ago.

Yet the mere fact that he pursued constitutional change on such a sensitive topic, without any real attempt at bipartisanship, when he must have known that it was likely to fail, was a huge error of judgment.

To be fair, other than this appallingly mistimed trip to Beijing that can’t help but give comfort to our biggest strategic adversary, the PM’s touch on foreign issues has been pretty steady. But on everything else at home, he’s starting to look out of his depth or just wrongheaded.

The most obvious example is the government’s failure to rule out the Treaty and Truth elements of the Uluru trifecta, now that the Voice has been resoundingly defeated.

Mind you, it would be typical of the green-left that it would try to do by executive and legislative action what the voters had clearly rejected.

I suspect it will be a long time before a leftist government ever again puts anything specific to the people, given the risk having their ideological fixations rejected by the collective common sense of voters.

But this government’s greatest error is less its relentless prosecution of the left’s cultural agenda than its wilful economic vandalism.

Getting to net zero won’t just be ruinously expensive – a tri-university study led by former chief scientist Robin Batterham recently put the local cost at $1.5 trillion by 2030 and up to $9 trillion by 2060.

And for what? We will make ourselves poorer and yet it will make no difference to global emissions, given we are less than 1.5 per cent of the problem. All the while, China will keep emitting on a grand scale because of its insistence on putting its own economic and military strength ahead of emissions reduction. Along the way, of course, we’ll deliberately forfeit the coal, gas, and agricultural exports that have been the foundation of our national wealth based on nebulous assurances about green jobs and strategic minerals.

The death a week ago of Bill Hayden, 90, a pragmatic Labor leader of strength and humility who devised a universal medical insurance scheme with reasonable cost discipline, is a reminder of how much our collective national leadership has declined in a generation.

Maybe Ms Credlin, maybe Albo is just an arsehole with delusions of grandeur. Mixed with spite for anyone he sees as a danger to his ill gotten power. A truly obnoxious flog.

Bourne1879

Oct 29, 2023 10:33 AM

Crossie is right. I think Albo is more vulnerable to background research than Dutton. Such as the clip of him in a Palestine protest that surfaced the other day.

And perhaps an interview with Ting-Tong from the Rubben Tug shop.

“Tartaria”, good name for a knock shop

You mean it isn’t an Italian bakery?

Outstanding WIP; finishing with this:

Female IDF combat squad claims to have killed 100 Hamas terrorists: ‘A strong squad’

Israeli Caracal Battalion commander Lt.-Col. Or Ben-Yehuda praised the unit for their bravery in the southern Gaza Strip where they took down approximately 100 Hamas terrorists, The Jerusalem Post reported.

If Jacinta is not available my next wife is going to be an Israeli military girl.

Crossie is right. I think Albo is more vulnerable to background research than Dutton. Such as the clip of him in a Palestine protest that surfaced the other day.

I like the photos of rub and tug coming out of the knock shop.

I don’t think you’ve thought this through. Where are the air refuelers waiting to refuel fighters? Over the Gulf? Over Saudi Arabia? Over the Arabian Sea? That would be the same distance from the carriers themselves.

What you’re basically suggesting all the way through this discussion is that the US has no capacity to attack Iran. Now, answer this question, does it or doesn’t it?

The guided missiles have a shorter range generally than the fighters.

Okay, so the carriers have less of a problem that you originally suggested.

That depends on Iranian missile range. Do you know what that is?

No, it doesn’t.

Really, explain why?

I haven’t said anything about their AD. I’ve just looked at google maps and noted the distance from likely US staging points.

Sure, you have even by default, by implying the US has no way of hitting Iran.

Tell me, does this have a Putin element to it?

This all began because you think the US is going to hightail out of the region seeing Iranian proxies are sending missiles towards US bases. You then made comments suggesting it would be almost impossible to hit Iran. You need to defend this.

If Jacinta is not available my next wife is going to be an Israeli military girl.

After your sixth marriage, do you think you should be looking for the seventh?

Rufus T Firefly
Oct 29, 2023 11:02 AM
Is english not your first language Dot?

Dotty Dot of Dottiness once posted here that the peoples of Southern Scotland (the Lowlands) were essentially English. And then there was all that rubbish about Anglo Saxons. FFS.

There was no plan B. So what’s next after the Voice referendum defeat?
Lisa Visentin
By Lisa Visentin
October 29, 2023 — 2.00am

For many Australians, the Voice referendum has already disappeared in the rearview mirror. Another notch on the tally of failed attempts at constitutional change to be pored over by historians, policy wonks and political strategists for years to come as voters largely press on with their daily lives, many preoccupied with cost-of-living pressures.

But a fortnight after the vote, the aftershock of crushing defeat continues to shake the foundations of Indigenous Australia.

At a Senate estimates hearing last week, Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander social justice commissioner June Oscar stressed the “real and palpable pain” rippling through communities following the result.

“I’ve heard reports of our children facing racism at school because of the outcome, that their peers have interpreted No as a rejection of them. This is not acceptable and so far from the truth,” she said.

Other senior Indigenous figures, among them prominent Voice advocate Marcia Langton, believe that reconciliation is now dead, so damaged is the relationship between black and white Australia.

Amid this fog of heartache and uncertainty, Voice architect Noel Pearson’s grim assertion in the campaign’s dying days has come to pass.

“There is no plan B,” Pearson told Melbourne’s 3AW on October 3.

But efforts to find one began last week, as a group of about 50 Indigenous leaders and organisations from across the country met in Canberra or dialled in to the day-long discussion aimed at navigating a pathway forward.

Sean Gordon, who co-led the Liberals for Yes outfit, attended the discussions and is one of the few senior Indigenous Voice campaigners to speak publicly after a week of self-imposed silence lifted last Sunday.

“People are dealing with this [loss] in different ways. My approach is we have got to get back to business because communities are still suffering. If we sit around twiddling our thumbs, nothing gets done,” he says.

“It was the first meeting and everyone’s coming to the table with ideas and different views as to what they think is going to work.”

Gordon supports an expansion of the “tried and tested” Empowered Communities model pioneered by Pearson in Cape York during the Abbott government era.

– Why for heavens sake would Labor reject an RC into the sexual and other abuse of Aboriginal children in the cmmunities.

The truth, about what goes on in some of those Third World sh!tholes, in the name of “culture” might emerge?