Open Thread – Weekend 2 Dec 2023


The Annunciation, Henry Ossawa Tanner, 1899

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Vicki
Vicki
December 3, 2023 12:03 pm

The very excellent Alex Antic MP was on the Insiders this morning. He had some very serious warnings concerning the current government’s determination to enshrine not only proposed Australian Media & Communications Authority (the proposed determiner of “misinformation”), but also a Digital Identity Bill.

In which case, freedom of speech will be threatened in this country & in pursuit of the latter, the government will “know who and where we are” at any time ( if they don’t already).

Bar Beach Swimmer
December 3, 2023 12:03 pm

Yes. He. Was. Should have been banned from playing cricket at any level for life, forthwith. At least the Pakis send their cheats to jail.

worth repeating.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 3, 2023 12:03 pm

Wow, the ALP is really ramping up the lies to 11.

Labor fixing Dutton’s ‘mess’ of detention scheme: Murray Watt (Sky News, 3 Dec)

Agriculture Minister Murray Watt says the Labor government is fixing Peter Dutton’s “mess” as they are set to introduce tougher preventative detention legislation this week.

This comes after the High Court released over 140 detainees from immigration detention.

Mr Watt said the Opposition Leader left an “unconstitutional” and “unlawful” scheme in place which led to the release of the detainees.

Um, Murray, remember the orange lifeboats? The only reason why those ferals were in custody is because you failed to deport them. Which you could have done quite easily. There’re all sorts of excellent places to lob an orange lifeboat on to, like the shore of Myanmar where the Rohingya muslim pedo came from.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 3, 2023 12:07 pm

Labor Tony Burke’s hand-picked deputy chair of Creative Australia Wesley Enoch revealed as director of play behind latest pro-Palestinian protest by STC actors

Labor Tony Burke’s hand-picked deputy chair of Creative Australia has been revealed to be the director of the Sydney Theatre Company play the Visitors in which actors gave statements on stage supporting Gaza following their performances.

Andrew Clennell -Political Editor

Australian Labor Federal Arts Minister Tony Burke’s hand-picked deputy chair of Creative Australia, (the rebadged Australia Council), is the director behind the latest pro-Palestinian protest by Sydney Theatre Company actors.

In August, Mr Burke – who has leant his support to the Palestinian cause in several public statements – appointed Wesley Enoch deputy chair of Creative Australia.

Mr Burke says he has known Mr Enoch, the brother of Queensland Arts Minister Leanne Enoch, for years but has not been so social with him that he has shared a meal with him and pointed out the NSW Liberal government appointed him to the Sydney Festival for four years.

Mr Enoch emerged at the weekend as the director of the STC play the Visitors in which actors gave statements on stage supporting Gaza following their performances.

Actors read a statement saying:

“This is a statement from the cast of The Visitors on the situation in Gaza. The cast wanted to come back out and say, as a collective, that we are actively sending our love to those who are being severely oppressed… From our small corner, we wanted to say that we see you.

“We refuse to look way from the mothers, the fathers, the families and the communities being pulled apart, especially the children.”

Mr Enoch told the Sydney Morning Herald on Saturday: “I think it’s the responsibility of every individual to have a position on important issues in the world and for you then to act upon those where and how you act upon that is absolutely up to you.

I’m not here to tell people what they can and can’t do in this way. I know what we did.”

The latest controversy follows the wearing of Palestinian headscarves known as keffiyehs by actors in an STC play called the Seagull – an act which led to the resignation from the Sydney Theatre Company board of Alex Schuman, the brother of Wentworth Independent MP Allegra Spender last week.

Mr Burke on Sky News’ Afternoon Agenda program last Thursday defended the keffiyeh protest.

“Any protest that involves hate speech, I’ll unequivocally condemn,” Mr Burke said.

“Beyond that, when people are simply presenting a different view or support in different ways… In recent times I’ve seen arts events where people have worn colours that are representative of the Palestinian people, colours that are representative of Israeli people, colours that are representative of Ukrainians. I’ve seen it all and I think that will always happen. Had they been wearing symbols of Hamas that would have been appalling.”

Mr Burke was also asked whether he was pushing for a more pro-Palestinian stance by the government in Cabinet.

He responded: “I’ve made my comments very publicly with respect to this. I’ve spoken and my views on the issue have been known for a very long time.

“I don’t talk about what I do inside the Cabinet room and I certainly support the decisions that the Cabinet’s taken.

“I represent a part of Sydney which isn’t only in a situation where people are similarly grieving… but who also constantly put a view that the history of the region did not begin on October 7.

“They’re wanting to make sure that we can take the steps towards a ceasefire . . they also want to make sure that the outcome is an ongoing solution with justice, rather than a continued situation that we’ve seen for too long of two-state being put off and off and off and seemingly never getting there.”

Sky News contacted the Chair of Creative Australia, Robert Morgan, about Mr Enoch’s comments but he declined to comment.

Comments not kind to Australian Labor Party & Australian Labor Federal Arts Minister Tony Burke’

Bar Beach Swimmer
December 3, 2023 12:07 pm

BoN @ 7:40am

Now we know why they went extinct.

Pity it hasn’t happened to their academic fan clubs.

Winston Smith
December 3, 2023 12:08 pm

Boambee John:

Colonel Crispin Berka
Dec 3, 2023 12:24 AM
Haaretz’s Amos Harel reports that, behind the scenes, almost every Arab leader is urging Israel not to stop the war until Hamas is destroyed

If Israel had any sense at all, they’d force all the Gazans into Egyptian territory and wall them in there.
Stop doing the Arabs dirty work for them.

Jorge
Jorge
December 3, 2023 12:08 pm

‘fast track’, ‘talent pipeline’ and ‘going granular’ (Watson, 2015)

Brittanyspeak. Probably Brucespeak as well.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
December 3, 2023 12:08 pm

While we all know what muslims did in Jewish homes.

While we all know what muslims do in their own homes.

Vicki
Vicki
December 3, 2023 12:10 pm
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 3, 2023 12:11 pm

quelled surprise

All those surplus Covid-era masks coming in handy for ID cover now.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 3, 2023 12:13 pm

While we all know what muslims do in their own homes.

Yep. The bearded ones quite legally beat up the wife and kids, because that’s what their holy book says they can do.

Western legal systems say otherwise.

rosie
rosie
December 3, 2023 12:15 pm

Elbow’s not going anywhere.

Muddy
Muddy
December 3, 2023 12:15 pm

rosie
Dec 3, 2023 11:42 AM
possibly a female hostage being moved, though who else could it be?

Not being a member of twatter, I cannot view the vid.
However, on a related matter, I would not be surprised if high-value h@m@s figures* were getting about disguised as women. Knowing the IDF’s surveillance capabilities, that would make sense.

* The leaders who were still commanding locally, that is. Aside from the very top, whom we know are mansioning in Qatar, it would not be surprising if mid-ranking leaders were calling shots from outside of Gaza, though I do not know if that is practical.

I still believe that – again, if practical – some of the more valuable hostages still alive might have been slipped out of Gaza.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 3, 2023 12:15 pm

At least the Pakis send their cheats to jail.

Then they make them selectors…

Salman Butt, captain in spot-fixing scandal, appointed to Pakistan selection committee (1 Dec)

Salman Butt removed from PCB selection committee on PM’s orders (2 Dec)

Heh, things move quickly in Pakistani cricket. I have fond memories of watching from the Members’ as Mike Hussey was dropped five times on the way to him saving the Test in a heroic stand.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 3, 2023 12:17 pm

Bruce of Newcastle
Dec 3, 2023 10:59 AM
NSW passes climate bill to write 70 pct by 2035 emissions reduction target into law

So when they inevitably fail can we arrest all the pollies?

No, it will all be our fault, for not sacrificing enough.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 3, 2023 12:17 pm

Labor Blackout Chris Bowen’s single-minded renewables zealotry is leading Australia towards a Soviet-style mega disaster on an even larger scale

The Energy Minister’s claim our grid can be made 82 per cent carbon-free without resorting to nuclear power is utterly delusional, and leading Australia down a very dangerous path, writes Nick Cater.

Labor Blackout Bowen’s green leap forward is proving somewhat harder than he led us to expect.

Last year, the proportion of low-carbon energy powering the East Coast grid was 32 per cent, a long way short of Labor’s 2030 target of 82 per cent.

Yet in the grand tradition of the infamous Soviet central planner Comrade Alexei Larionov, Mr Bowen refuses to give up, insisting at Parliament on Thursday that his target is “ambitious but achievable”.

Comrade Larionov, chief of the Communist Party Committee of Ryazan Oblast, is famous for his ambitious and unachievable plan to treble his region’s meat production in a year.

It required the slaughter of Oblast’s entire bovine herd and a considerable part of its dairy stock. Animals owned by private households were “temporarily appropriated”, never to be seen again.

In 1959, officials claimed to have fulfilled Larionov’s meat leap forward by producing 150,000 tonnes of meat.

Reality hit in 1960 when production fell back to 30,000 tonnes.

Comrade Larionov was stripped of his job but got to keep his Hero of Socialist Labour medal.

Australia is heading for a Soviet-style mega-disaster on an even larger scale thanks to the single-minded zealotry of our Labor Energy Minister Blackout Bowen.

Labor Blackout Bowen plans to release countless billions of dollars of subsidies to persuade reluctant corporations to treble the National Electricity Market’s renewable energy capacity.

Yet it’s a goal that even Blackout Bowen must privately accept is unfeasible, given the global competition for scarce capital, planning delays and the growing community backlash.

Increasing wind and solar generation by two-thirds means covering two-thirds more of Australia in giant wind towers and solar panels.

It means building thousands of kilometres of new transmission lines, almost every kilometre of which will pass over someone’s land, messing up their business and their lives.

Mr Bowen wants to go further by building hideously expensive offshore windmills, but it is improbable any will be in place by 2030 when the reckoning is due.

The Minister’s only hope is to move the goalposts, which his department appears to be preparing to do in its annual Climate statement on Thursday.

We learn that under the helmsmanship of Mr Bowen, the NEM has hit new heights of “instantaneous renewable energy penetration”, peaking at 70 per cent in the third quarter of 2023.

Like Comrade Larionov’s record year of meat production, however, it pays to read the small print. The record was hit at midday on Thursday, September 21.

It lasted for just 30 minutes.

As the afternoon wore on and the sun edged gently towards Perth, the grid operators in the East Coast states called on their old friends in the coal sector to keep lights on.

Instantaneous renewable energy penetration was hovering at around 50 per cent just three years ago, bolstering hopes that it could reach 82 per cent by 2030.

However, if not, the Australian Energy Market Operator has another irrelevant set of statistics up its sleeve.

In its latest quarterly report, AEMO tells us that “instantaneous renewable energy potential” hit a record of 98.6 per cent in the half-hour that ended at 12.30 pm on Saturday, September 16.

Instantaneous renewable energy potential is the amount of electricity wind, solar, and hydro that could theoretically have been produced if the midday glut of sunshine hadn’t pushed prices so low that the energy producers had to pay the NEM to take it off their hands.

Spending billions of dollars to turbocharge investment in yet more unreliable junk energy will do nothing to solve renewable energy’s fatal technological flaw.

Businesses and households rely on electricity on demand 24 hours a day, not just at lunchtime.

Connecting more turbines and solar panels will push spot prices further into negative territory in the middle of the day while making hardly any difference in the evenings and overnight.

Battery technology is not advancing fast, nor are prices reducing fast enough to power the nation overnight, let alone during wind droughts that can last several weeks.

For all of Labor Blackout Bowen’s bravado, his claim that the grid can be made 82 per cent carbon-free without resorting to nuclear power is utterly delusional.

He might care to take notes during his visit to the United Arab Emirates for the COP 28 International Climate Fest this weekend.

Three years ago, the UAE had one of the dirtiest energy grids in the world, relying on gas and oil for 95 percent of generation, with just 5 percent coming from solar.

Today, it has three nuclear power stations in service and another under construction.

By 2025, nuclear energy is expected to produce 25 percent of the UAE’s energy.

It will be neither instantaneous nor potential energy but reliable, energy available around the clock.

Nick Cater is Senior Fellow at Menzies Research Centre and a contributor to Sky News Australia.

Comments Not Kind to Australian Labor Party & Blackout Bowen

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 3, 2023 12:20 pm

The new Digital Identity Bill introduced by the redoubtable Katy Gallagher

Liars can’t help trying to turn Australia into the ACT.

Real Deal
Real Deal
December 3, 2023 12:21 pm

KD at 11.59 on Warner.

10/10

I always go to the New Year’s Test, thankful I’ll be in NZ this time with the Mrs so I don’t have to hear the empty platitudes for that toerag. Mitch Johnson’s idea regarding raiding Bunnings for yellow sandpaper is a stroke of genius.

Muddy
Muddy
December 3, 2023 12:21 pm

One imagines Qatari intelligence will have been looking more closely at arriving foreign visitors during the last 7 weeks.

Nuf sed, eh?

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
December 3, 2023 12:22 pm

If I, a male that identifies as a lesbian and beats the crap out of partner of indiscriminate gender which category the offence go in or is it put in the don’t worry about that basket?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 3, 2023 12:26 pm

For all of Labor Blackout Bowen’s bravado, his claim that the grid can be made 82 per cent carbon-free without resorting to nuclear power is utterly delusional.

Paging Mr Bowen!

US leads call to triple nuclear power at COP28 (Phys.org, 2 Dec)

Really amazing that Labor is more clueless than even Joe Biden and his green staffers.

John Brumble
John Brumble
December 3, 2023 12:28 pm

Alex Antic’s comments are meaningless given the complete lack of willingness from the Gliberals to overturn that and similar legislation or to put in place anything which would put barriers in place against such legislation.

Bar Beach Swimmer
December 3, 2023 12:30 pm

Allan said the case was about the separation of powers.

Strike that sentence from the rest.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 3, 2023 12:30 pm

Australian Labor Federal Arts Minister Tony Burke’s hand-picked deputy chair of Creative Australia, (the rebadged Australia Council), …

No wonder my grant applications have been having problems.

Mark from Melbourne
Mark from Melbourne
December 3, 2023 12:30 pm

Jenny McNaughton is Deputy CEO of Berry Street

To think that, forty or so years ago, what was then the Berry Street Baby’s Home was my go to charity of choice.

The left destroy everything they touch.

MatrixTransform
December 3, 2023 12:33 pm

You’d think they’d learn that woke is a total turnoff for the punters

persistence is the key to indoctrination

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
December 3, 2023 12:41 pm

How can you be this clueless and still be breathing?

Easy peasy, join the liebor pardy early in life, allow yourself to be totally brainwashed and enjoy life.
In Bowen’s case it required very little water.

Cassie of Sydney
December 3, 2023 12:41 pm

On bus in city. Police everywhere and whadda you know……another F*UCKING festival of Jew hatred in Hyde Park.

P
P
December 3, 2023 12:41 pm

From the 10:30am Solemn Mass St Mary’s Cathedral Sydney, today:

Hills of the North, Rejoice

Winston Smith
December 3, 2023 12:52 pm

indolent:

It’s very hard to see a happy outcome with a total lack of honesty, integrity or simply regard for the laws of the land.

This is the China/Arab ploy.
They just keep lying because they will always call everyone else liars and themselves the only honest players in the game.
And it works, because sooner or later, they revert back to the original argument and claim everyone else is lying. Completely circular and has the emotional content of a five year old who claims “A bad man jumped through the window and ate little sisters biscuit.”
It will only stop when mum or dad give the kid a good slapping and tell them to stop lying.
Of course if mum or dad just want a quiet evening, they’ll let the kid get away with it -which means the behaviour will continue to escalate and get worse.
China and the Arabs are the 5 year old, and the behaviour continues to degrade.

bons
bons
December 3, 2023 12:59 pm

If Ireland destroys itself, would that mean that there would be no more Riverdance?

Go the Mussies.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
December 3, 2023 1:00 pm

Saw this above:

This comes after the High Court released over 140 detainees from immigration detention.

Hasn’t it already been disclosed that the High Court had only adjudicated on the one case and it was crack-hand O’Neil who incontinently released the other 139? So, to the extent that the High Court released anyone there would still be time to legislate ahead of any similar finding for the rest?

People in the know, does the Constitution blanket apply (where the people are concerned) between Australian citizens plus residents, and non-citizens/non-residents?

calli
calli
December 3, 2023 1:06 pm

Lot of discussion recently about MacBeth and who was to blame: Mac or his missus.

For the record…I wasn’t attributing blame, just different reactions to crime.

The missus – nags and urges hubby to kill. Gets her wish. Suddenly has a fit of remorse, goes nuts, tops herself.

Hubby – like Hamas monsters, once you kill one, the rest is easy. Just keep killing anyone who gets in your way. And die still unrepentant of the terrible evil done to the innocent.

I will not yield,
To kiss the ground before young Malcolm’s feet,
And to be baited with the rabble’s curse.

What a chump.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 3, 2023 1:06 pm

“As we prepare for David Warner’s farewell series, can somebody please tell me why?” wrote Johnson in The West.

“Why a struggling Test opener gets to nominate his own retirement date. And why a player at the centre of one of the biggest scandals in Australian cricket history warrants a hero’s send-off?

Err, well, let’s see how that “hero’s send-off” plays out shall we?
Being a flat track bully, Warner has picked the series against Pakistan as an opportunity for some cheap runs to go out on.
And he may get them.
What I doubt he will get is the public adulation he and Candice think he deserves. The pre-series advertising (featuring some has-been actor affecting an Ocker accent) is pumping up the “farewell to legends” theme.
If it was DK Lillee, SK Warne, Jeff Thomson or Allan Border, advertising would be unnecessary.
I predict lukewarm golf claps in Siddy and enthusiastic bollocking from the crowds in Perf and Melbournibad.

Winston Smith
December 3, 2023 1:07 pm

Indolent

Dec 3, 2023 8:51 AM
Christian Family Forcibly Removed from Home at Gun Point, Handcuffed and Locked in Van After FBI Allegedly “Goaded” 15-Year-Old Son into Posting Controversial Memes

Why would any Christian want to live in the US?

Johnny Rotten
December 3, 2023 1:09 pm

As a child my family’s menu consisted of two choices: take it or leave it.

– Buddy Hackett

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddy_Hackett

rosie
rosie
December 3, 2023 1:11 pm

It’s how pallimuppets and hamasisis enjoy themselves Cassie.
Make sure you respond by having a lovely afternoon.

Bar Beach Swimmer
December 3, 2023 1:11 pm

Dot @ 8:53am

conscription and the public good. On that basis, what couldn’t be described as the public good?

rosie
rosie
December 3, 2023 1:13 pm
Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 3, 2023 1:13 pm

Mr Enoch told the Sydney Morning Herald on Saturday: “I think it’s the responsibility of every individual to have a position on important issues in the world and for you then to act upon those where and how you act upon that is absolutely up to you.

And if a group of actors took a position in support of Israel and came out draped in the Star of David flag?

Bespoke
Bespoke
December 3, 2023 1:14 pm

Why would any Christian want to live in the US?

Sigh!

Pogria
Pogria
December 3, 2023 1:15 pm

This is why I rarely watch modern movies; all the actors in them are like this sarandon kunt.

Cohenite,
the trouble with Sarandon is, she is so old, she is in an early movie which I adore. The Rocky Horror Picture Show. Still, with her bug eyes, I can always squint and pretend its Marty Feldman. 😀

Vicki
Vicki
December 3, 2023 1:21 pm

“Why a struggling Test opener gets to nominate his own retirement date. And why a player at the centre of one of the biggest scandals in Australian cricket history warrants a hero’s send-off?

Our household is composed of cricket “tragics”. We, too, cannot understand the adulation that Warner gets. For years we regarded him as a talented cricketeer, but not much more. In our opinion he is basically a One Day cricketeer – a slogger.

But the events of 2018 in Capetown meant something to us. It was not only a dark day for Australian cricket – it disgraced us as a sporting nation. We were not really surprised that Warner was involved, but we were staggered to find that Steven Smith was involved. We believed, and still believe, that none of the trio should have been permitted to play for Australia again. But there you have it…the world of today.

However, we were staggered to discover that a couple of our cricket loving mates, who we sat with at test matches at SCG for countless years, couldn’t understand “the fuss”!! But then, they are also woke b—–y Lefties… so maybe there is a connection…..”underdogs” or some such foolishness.

Beyond my understanding.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
December 3, 2023 1:21 pm

(featuring some has-been actor affecting an Ocker accent)
I did ushering with the fillum crowd and met Roxborough in the wings before a Q&A. I know, I know, it was everything I hate about Creative Australia, it was volunteering… anyhoo he was quite a quiet bloke, very humble that he still got work, and let on that the Aussiewood red carpet rounds were the tributes you made to keep on keeping on with agents and Ministers For The Yaaartz.
*seeing he was in the Advertising Standard dress of unbuttoned dad shirt over t-shirt with five day growth, I’d say he sucked it up and did for the money.

Eddystone
Eddystone
December 3, 2023 1:23 pm

While the world’s press was frothing about the supposed Israeli bombing of a hospital, Hamas was actually rocketing an Israeli hospital, one that is close to Gaza and treats Palestinians every day.

Bespoke
Bespoke
December 3, 2023 1:23 pm
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 3, 2023 1:26 pm

On bus in city. Police everywhere and whadda you know……another F*UCKING festival of Jew hatred in Hyde Park.

Cassie, this is the cause the protestors are supporting. From the Oz – I haven’t posted the whole article.

First Hamas fighters raped her. Then they shot her in the head

The terrorists were ‘on a mission’ to carry out sexual attacks on October 7. Campaigners have asked why the UN stayed silent. Warning: Graphic Violence.
By Christina Lamb
December 3, 2023
9 minute read
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She had, he says, the face of an angel. Night after night Yoni Saadon, 39, wakes in anguish to the faces of women.

First, that of the young woman hiding next to him under the stage of the Supernova festival where he had been dancing to electronic music as the sun rose on October 7 and Hamas militants opened fire.

“She fell to the ground, shot in the head, and I pulled her body over me and smeared her blood on me so it would look as if I was dead too,” he said. “I will never forget her face. Every night I wake to it and apologise to her, saying ‘I’m sorry’.”
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After an hour, he peeked out. “I saw this beautiful woman with the face of an angel and eight or ten of the fighters beating and raping her. She was screaming, ‘Stop it – already I’m going to die anyway from what you are doing, just kill me!’ When they finished they were laughing and the last one shot her in the head.

“I kept thinking it could have been one of my daughters,” added the father of four. “Or my sister – I had bought her a ticket but last minute she couldn’t come.”

The horror did not end there. Hiding in bushes, he saw two more Hamas fighters. “They had caught a young woman near a car and she was fighting back, not allowing them to strip her. They threw her to the ground and one of the terrorists took a shovel and beheaded her and her head rolled along the ground. I see that head too,” he says.

Saadon, a shift manager in a foundry, told his story to The Sunday Times in a support area set up in Sitria, southeast of Tel Aviv, for survivors of the festival.

Three times a week survivors from around Israel get together with parents whose children were among those slaughtered. On Wednesday evening they gathered on sofas as people brought them beers and steaming bowls of vegetable soup, then went outside to sit round a firepit as the singer Rona Kenan strummed her guitar and sang ballads.

Volunteer therapists on hand included Bar Yuval-Shani, 58, who lost her only sister, Deborah, and brother-in-law, Shlomi Matias, both musicians and peace activists, killed on Holit kibbutz by militants who broke into their safe room.

“She was eight years younger but [it was] as if we were twins,” she said tearfully. “I held all her secrets and I miss her terribly.”

Deborah died shielding her son Rotem, 16, who was shot in the abdomen then hid for nine hours as fighters returned again and again, and Yuval-Shani guided him over the phone in how to treat himself.

Yoni Saadon’s account is one of several witness accounts of rape Yuval-Shani has heard from festival survivors, all of whom, she says, are “deeply traumatised”.

Eight weeks after the attack in which 1,200 were killed and 240 taken hostage, there is mounting evidence of widespread rape on October 7. Israeli police have begun their biggest investigation into sexual violence and crimes against women. “It’s clear now that sexual crimes were part of the planning and the purpose was to terrify and humiliate people,” says Shelly Harush, the police commander leading the investigation.

Vicki
Vicki
December 3, 2023 1:26 pm

One imagines Qatari intelligence will have been looking more closely at arriving foreign visitors during the last 7 weeks.

Certain people should look carefully at who is in an elevator with them. It used to be a classic operation of Mossad.

calli
calli
December 3, 2023 1:26 pm

I don’t mind Roxburgh. Best, hammiest Dracula evah! And he married one of his evil vampiresses, Silvia Colloca.

Indolent
Indolent
December 3, 2023 1:28 pm
rosie
rosie
December 3, 2023 1:29 pm
OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 3, 2023 1:30 pm

King of Jordan: Green Activists Must Be More ‘Inclusive’ of Palestinians ‘on the Front Lines of Climate Change’

From the Comments

– Solar panels and wind turbines don’t work in tunnels.

– “As we speak, the Palestinian people are facing an immediate threat to their lives and wellbeing. In Gaza, over 1.7 million Palestinians have been displaced from their homes. Tens of thousands have been injured or killed,”he claimed.

I guess it doesnt pay to be an Islamic Nazi.

– Exactly. I am beyond tired of the Palestidiots being panned as victims. They REFUSE peace and they REFUSE advancement of their society. They only want death to all Jews and the complete annihilation of Israel. They bring the misery upon themselves and REJECT any solutions.

– King Abdullah of Jordan: “So, my friends, as we meet here today to talk about inclusivity in climate response, let’s be inclusive of the most vulnerable: Palestinians, severely impacted by the war on Gaza,” he urged.’

Also: “This is a red line … no refugees to Jordan and also no refugees to Egypt,” he reportedly said.’

TRANSLATION: “Hey all you Western Green-Weanie Suckers… step up and take in these mongrels; do it for your ideology.

Jordan and Egypt don’t want them.”

– Without gas or electricity, Palestinians are clearly leading the way with climate improvement…

Indolent
Indolent
December 3, 2023 1:31 pm
calli
calli
December 3, 2023 1:31 pm

Rosie, we were due to be in Nuremberg today. The other German Christmas markets next week. I was going to report my observations of security around them given past atrocities.

Life caught up with me, so it will have to wait for another year.

Katzenjammer
Katzenjammer
December 3, 2023 1:32 pm

Mr Enoch told the Sydney Morning Herald on Saturday: “I think it’s the responsibility of every individual to have a position on important issues in the world and for you then to act upon those where and how you act upon that is absolutely up to you.

Instead of applause, the audience should stand, draped in Israeli flags.

Winston Smith
December 3, 2023 1:36 pm

Tracey Chapman:
Fast Car.

No reason for posting – I just like the song.

calli
calli
December 3, 2023 1:37 pm

and for you then to act upon those where and how you act upon that is absolutely up to you

Lol. Straight from the Virtue Signallers Handbook.

I’ll do the hand waving and mouth movements, you stump up the money and the exposure to danger.

The @rsehole needs to be parachuted in to Gaza and given a pinless grenade.

rosie
rosie
December 3, 2023 1:40 pm

I was thinking of you Calli, when I saw the article, clearly security will be tight, very tight.
Was absolutely certain 7 October would herald a fresh round of muslim terrorism around the world.

Bespoke
Bespoke
December 3, 2023 1:45 pm

Mom Pleads For Mercy For Teen Who Beat Teacher Over Nintendo Switch

I feel no empathy. Instead of harassing the victom she should be trying to get the kid permanently institutionalised.

Vicki
Vicki
December 3, 2023 1:45 pm

Eight weeks after the attack in which 1,200 were killed and 240 taken hostage, there is mounting evidence of widespread rape on October 7.

Thank you, Zulu. I have ticked this article only because I am totally committed to the belief that these stories MUST be told & circulated to anyone who will listen. There is a great deal of denial out there amongst those who just don’t want to hear it as it challenges their partisan positions.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
December 3, 2023 1:49 pm

Bar Beach Swimmer

Dec 3, 2023 11:59 AM

I remember bringing up something about the seperation of powers ages back. One of our resident legal minds informed me that Australia doesn’t really have a clear seperation of powers.

Then recently I saw that video by David Starkey on the Brits and he stated something similar about the British system pre Supreme Court. Despite Montesquieu’s efforts British didn’t take it up fully.

My interest now, is why are governments shy of doing a dicky knee whip crack to the esteemed justices when they stray off the reservation, judges are falible. Courts get wrong at times. That’s for paliament to fix, even if the legislature has to pass laws to in this case protect the public and an expectation I have of elected officials to show some fortitude to do so.

New NZ Justice minister apparently mentioned if the judiciary don’t want to enforce the laws they swore an oath of office to uphold then they should tender their resignation or words to that effect. Nice to see some honesty for once and is long overdue here for some straight talking, debates or even discussions on public expectations of our officers at law.

Yes the judiciary needs to have independance but it needs accountabilty as well.

Zafiro
Zafiro
December 3, 2023 1:51 pm

We believed, and still believe, that none of the trio should have been permitted to play for Australia again.

Ricky Ponting is plumping for Bancroft to be Warner’s test replacement. LOL (has most shield runs this season) I’d go with Renshaw.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
December 3, 2023 1:52 pm

Netflix soldiers on trying to right the wrongs of history – such as there not being enough black people in European history.

After their…ahem…widely noted feat with black Cleopatra, next up is black Hannibal. Well, he was from Africa.

Apparently this is not a completely new thesis – that Hannibal was black, and it would be because they thought they had a story of a significant historical figure from Europe’s history, rather than an enduring interest in the ebbs and flows of fortune in the second Punic war.

It would seem the genesis of the myth is a series of coins showing the head of an African man on the obverse and an Indian elephant (small ears and rounded back) on the reverse. There is nothing on the coins to actually connect them to Hannibal, no inscription saying so, no crown, helmet, or other adornment suggesting especial status. Just a head.

Oh, and from what limited inscriptions there are, are in Etruscan.

The coins were minted in Etruria.

There are some Carthaginian coins purported to be not only Hannibal, but also his brother Hasdrubal and father, Hamilcar. The heads on those coins, each adorned as would be expected on three significant generals, are decidedly non-sub-Saharan.

If I was black – and saw through what Netflix was doing – I would be a bit pissed off that they thought there were no real historical black people worth celebrating.

It is funny to consider that a lot of younger people would reflexively despise the movie Zulu because the white colonialists won. And yet the depiction of the black Africans was as a brave and noble people. The film did not depict them slaughtering unarmed women and children, poisoning wells, or anything like that. Instead they were disciplined, courageous, and strategic – exactly the virtues being lauded in the British troops. Then finally at the end, when the Zulus leave, they salute the British as fellow warriors.

Sadly, such subtleties are lost to movie makers now. Which is why we got such ahistorical guff as ‘The Woman King’ which, by its very obvious departures from history, highlighted just what vile, cruel, and detestable people The Homies were – and for all their martial bravado just how outclassed they were by whitey.

NOT the lesson they were going for, I think.

Pogria
Pogria
December 3, 2023 1:56 pm

“rosie
Dec 3, 2023 1:29 PM
some goodness and holiness in Ireland still.

Rosie, that was a beautiful link. I hope the Irish rise against their foul slavers.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
December 3, 2023 2:08 pm

King of Jordan: Green Activists Must Be More ‘Inclusive’ of Palestinians ‘on the Front Lines of Climate Change’

Sorry, but tgss as t looks like something from JC’s random AI sentence generator.

Is there another headline like:

We must invigorate verdant critics of instantiated mitosis.

P
P
December 3, 2023 2:11 pm

The Blessing of the Cathedral Nativity Scene 2023

Just close the X and access can be obtained. I’m not on facebook.

Muddy
Muddy
December 3, 2023 2:11 pm

Eddystone
Dec 3, 2023 1:23 PM

While the world’s press was frothing about the supposed Israeli bombing of a hospital, Hamas was actually rocketing an Israeli hospital…

Worth watching. Almost four minutes.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
December 3, 2023 2:17 pm

Sorry, but tgss as t looks like…

Auto-corrupt used to change mistaken or unusual words into something more familiar.

How the hell did it decide something approximating ‘that’ would be better rendered as:

tgss as t

Is ‘tgss’ and ‘t’ part of any real language even?

John Brumble
John Brumble
December 3, 2023 2:19 pm

Zafiro:
Had Renshaw had a blue cap, there’s a strong chance he would never have been dropped. We would have been force-fed a narrative that his scoring pace was exactly what Australia needed to protect Steve Smith from the new ball. Article after article would have been written about the skill of accumulation.

I don’t know if I’d want him back in the team. The malicious, spiteful and either entirely made-up or hypocritical rubbish that would come from the cricket “in crowd” is not something I’d wish upon him.

Vicki
Vicki
December 3, 2023 2:23 pm

This may have been posted before. It is the testimony of an Israeli woman who was tasked with gathering testimony and examining evidence of the atrocities against women on 10/7:

https://twitter.com/AmIsraelChai_/status/1730763803753586802?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1730763803753586802%7Ctwgr%5E23bda0b289fbb27817264bab26ab883293b82d48%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.michaelsmithnews.com%2F

Bar Beach Swimmer
December 3, 2023 2:29 pm

RD:

why are governments shy of doing a dicky knee whip crack to the esteemed justices when they stray off the reservation, judges are falible. Courts get wrong at times. That’s for paliament to fix, even if the legislature has to pass laws to in this case protect the public and an expectation I have of elected officials to show some fortitude to do so.

RD, see for example the Love case (2020), which as James Allan pointed out in that interview with Fred Pawle, the Parliament still has not fixed.

C.L.
C.L.
December 3, 2023 2:33 pm

The Blessing of the Cathedral Nativity Scene 2023

Note the heavy police presence in the background.

Australia, 2023.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 3, 2023 2:35 pm

Not so long ago:

Ricky Ponting is plumping for Bancroft to be Warner’s test replacement. LOL (has most shield runs this season) I’d go with Renshaw.

Bancroft. Pros – is from WA, with the first Test at the WACA. Has been consistent over the last 18 months or so, moreso than any other suggested replacement as an opening bat. Is possibly the best short leg fielder in the last 50 years.

Cons – has a weak character and lack of judgment, evidenced by being successfully pressured by a midget to not only cheat, but bring sandpaper onto the field of play and use it.

Renshaw. Pros – has played for Straya before. Cons – left handed, a Pom and apparently one of the giant flogs of our time.

Muddy
Muddy
December 3, 2023 2:37 pm

I’m currently watching (YouTube) fotoage from the 7th f Oct: ein habsor 7.10.23.
At the 4.54 mark you can see ricochets under the 4wd parked behind the closed gate.

I have no connection with Israel or Judaism, but I admire these men for stepping forward for their community and standing against an enemy they knew little about, other than they were on their way.

Roger
Roger
December 3, 2023 2:37 pm

On bus in city. Police everywhere and whadda you know……another F*UCKING festival of Jew hatred in Hyde Park.

The overtime bill must be considerable by now.

And eating into other operations areas.

Pogria
Pogria
December 3, 2023 2:37 pm

Something most of us over a certain age can identify with.

The only one I have never been to, is the last on the list. What joy the future holds! 😀

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
December 3, 2023 2:38 pm

Bwa hahahahahahahahahahahahahah, during Cop 28!!!!!!

https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2023/12/yeah-but-boiling.html

Gerbil Warming IS A SCAM!

Muddy
Muddy
December 3, 2023 2:43 pm

Footage. Sorry, typing too fast.

Cassie of Sydney
December 3, 2023 2:44 pm

“I doubt this film would have changed my views on the conflict either. Like most people I’m aghast at Israel killing Palestinian civilians. I’ve visited the West Bank, seen how settlers grab Arab land, rain rubbish and dirty nappies down upon the market in Hebron. But none of this is relevant here. One universal principle transcends all else: rape as a weapon of war is a crime against humanity.”

The writer is trying to blame Jews for violence committed against Jews. Unbelievable.

As for Hebron, I’ve been to Hebron. If you think Jerusalem is tense, it is nothing compared to the tension in Hebron, the site of the Cave of Machpelah aka the Tomb of the Patriarchs and Matriarchs (Abraham and Sarah are buried there). I remember feeling the that the sacredness and holiness of Hebron was more than profound than Jerusalem. But the tension in Hebron is palpable, scary. Having said that, here are some inconvenient facts for the mealy-mouthed writer of the above piece.

1. Until 1929, there had always been a tiny Jewish community in the city of Hebron. It was a desperately poor and marginalised community, outnumbered ten to one by Arab Muslims, and viciously persecuted by those same Arab Muslims, but despite the persecution, despite the forced dhimmi, Jews clung to life in Hebron, as Jews do. Why, because Hebron, with the patriarchs buried there, is ground zero of Judaism, Jewish history and Jewish life.

2. So, what happened in 1929? Well there was a pogrom, not dissimilar to what happened on 7 October 2023. In August 1929, Arabs rampaged through the old Jewish quarter, massacring Jewish men, women and children. There was no army to save Jews in 1929. At the end of the pogrom, some 70 Jews were dead, and their homes and synagogues destroyed. Those who survived vacated the city and were relocated to Jerusalem. Hebron was emptied of Jews, it became ‘Judenfrei’ which is what the Arabs wanted, and still want, along with their leftist allies. The tomb of the Patriarchs and Matriarchs now has both a mosque and a synagogue, prior to the 1929 pogrom, Jews, who were regarded as “dirty” by the Hebron Arabs, were not allowed to climb the stairs to pray at the tombs of Abraham and Sarah.

3. Jews only returned to Hebron after the 67 war. It is worth remembering that between 1947 and 1967, when Jordan governed East Jerusalem including the Old City, and also governed Hebron, NO Jew, not ONE SINGLE JEW was allowed to live in the old city in Jerusalem or in the city of Hebron. It was Judenfrei. Synagogues were trashed and Jewish homes in Jerusalem and Hebron given to Palestinian Muslims.

4. In 1967, Zionist religious Jews returned to Hebron and restored a Jewish community in the city. Yes, these Jews in Hebron are militant, but no more and no less than the Arabs of Hebron who would exterminate the Jews at the first opportunity. This is why Hebron requires a large IDF contingent, to protect the “settlers”, even though those settlers are nothing of the sort, they are Jews who returned to live in a city that is the cornerstone of Judaism. There is huge animosity between the two groups, but that is because Hebron Arabs don’t want Jews living in Hebron, they don’t want Jews living in Jerusalem, they don’t Jews living in Haifa, they don’t Jews living in Tel Aviv.. The plain truth is that the Palestinian Arab Muslims don’t want Jews living anywhere, they want Jews gone, by any means necessary. “From the river to the sea” means just that, that ALL Jews and ALL Jewish life will be gone.

Roger
Roger
December 3, 2023 2:45 pm

Elbow’s not going anywhere.

For once.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 3, 2023 2:46 pm

There was talk of putting Cameron Green into an opening slot to allow both him and Mitch Marsh to play in the same team.

This may yet happen, and it might work against Pakistan. However, it will not work against serious opposition. If the selectors want to run the Shane Watson 2.0 operation again they can, but it will burn out a kid (Green) who by his own admission was cooked only a couple of months ago.

Plus, Green may develop the unfortunate Watson habit of burning DRS reviews.

Muddy
Muddy
December 3, 2023 2:46 pm

The fact that the slaughter of innocents on the 7th of October has been largely dismissed as justified by ‘trans-generational trauma’ – ‘there was conflict before 1948’ – both outrages me and leaves me with a profound sense of loss for the future of our species.

John Constantine would have had a suitable statement about how we are devolving into tribes of orcs, bred to sniff out the scent of an enemy and then kill it by any means.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
December 3, 2023 2:47 pm

Renshaw. Pros – has played for Straya before. Cons – left handed, a Pom and apparently one of the giant flogs of our time.

Well Bancroft is a lay down.

Johnny rotten
December 3, 2023 2:51 pm

What is so funny is that here is Disney, Netflix and the others changing history using black/brown people to depict some historical figures and every painting and film that I have ever seen shows Jesus as a White Man.

How about showing Jesus as a person from the geographical area that he came from.

Rufus T Firefly
Rufus T Firefly
December 3, 2023 2:55 pm

“Yet now it looks increasingly like Biden – and his moral backbone – are forsaking Israel.
Always be wary of people who say, “I have your back.”
They’re often the ones shafting you.”

Luckily, that will not happen in Ukraine, because Prof Biden has stated many times,
“We will support Ukraine for as long as it takes.”

Stoltenberg, Von der Crazy, Jungle Jo Borrell, Michel and all the other psychopaths urging Ukraine to fight on till, (quite literally), “the last Uke”, think that the eradication of Ukraine, is a better option that talking to Ivan, because then they would have explaining to do.
Once every Uke is dead, they can just blame evil Russia, for the “unprovoked” attack.
“Job well done Boris!”

The mobilisation will be announced next week. I said it would be last week, but for some reason, it was delayed.
Personally, I think a “Volkssturm” is a great idea. Worked well for that moustachioed gentleman back in the mid 40’s. No doubt “the Putin” is shaking in his boots.

In other fantastic news for Ukraine, the son of the great philanthropist George Soros, has signed a deal with Ukraine, to use 400 square miles of farm land, in the west of Ukraine, to bury hazardous waste, from Dow Chemicals, Du Pont, BASF, Evonik Ind. and others, FREE OF CHARGE, for an indefinite period!
The deal was signed on Nov 7, by the head of ‘elensky’s office, Andriy Yermak.

What can you say? They haven’t quite screwed Ukraine enough, just yet.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 3, 2023 3:09 pm

Marcus Harris and Duck Egg Joe from Quenthland have had their chances. Neither are in the category of Hayden who was dropped very early on, made a mountain of runs and returned to be one of the great intimidating openers of all time.

Henry Hunt from SA is a possible, although not yet as he has a very big front pad and leaves the wrong pills. Nikitaris and Hackney from NSW – well, Hackney is good but hasn’t been tested at level yet and consistently nicks off because he plays down the wrong line to decent bowling.

Ward and Jewell from Tasmania continually fluff their chances to score when they need to. Straya needs an opener for the next ten years, who needs to be stuck with – regardless of form – for at least three. Someone in the mould of an Alistair Cook, who you can build a top order around.

They’ll have to pluck a kid out of nowhere. There are one or two, but it’ll be a coin flip.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 3, 2023 3:10 pm

I predict lukewarm golf claps in Siddy and enthusiastic bollocking from the crowds in Perf and Melbournibad.

I’ll see what I can do.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 3, 2023 3:13 pm

RokDok

Yes the judiciary needs to have independance but it needs accountabilty as well.

Impeachment by a petition of 5% of the electorate?

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 3, 2023 3:16 pm

It is the testimony of an Israeli woman who was tasked with gathering testimony and examining evidence of the atrocities against women on 10/7:

If I was a school teacher I would ask every young schoolgirl who attended a Hamas ‘river to the sea’ demonstration to view this and ask them if they wanted to attend another one in support of such rape. I’d finish it off with the picture of the bloodied pants of the woman being kidnapped and now probably dead.

Muddy
Muddy
December 3, 2023 3:18 pm

P
Dec 3, 2023 2:49 PM

A good read. Thanks, P.

Roger
Roger
December 3, 2023 3:18 pm

every painting and film that I have ever seen shows Jesus as a White Man.

If you go looking for them, you can find pictorial depictions of Jesus as everything from a black man to a Japanese. The early Christians in Rome depicted Jesus as the ram-bearer of pagan mythology.

On the one hand, one might criticise these as inaccurate representations. But on the other hand, they attest to the cross-cultural significance of Jesus, and that explains why Christians generally aren’t offended by such representations.

In India I’ve seen Jesus depicted as an avatar in traditional blue. We may have some reservations about that, but in India it immediately communicates that this is a holy man sent from God deserving of reverence; from that point a conversation can be had about why this particular historical avatar is different.

It’s interesting that the New Testament contains no description of what he looked like.
That being said, Mel Gibson’s The Passion did attempt to portray Jesus and the disciples as Jews of the period, even to their extent of the dialogue being in Aramaic.

Zafiro
Zafiro
December 3, 2023 3:21 pm

I’m getting a mid-’80s vibe about the near future of the Test XI.

Zippster
Zippster
December 3, 2023 3:23 pm

“This is why I rarely watch modern movies; all the actors in them are like this sarandon kunt.”

I used to watch movies all the time, the only thing I have watched in the last year was Dune and even that wasn’t overly memorable

C.L.
C.L.
December 3, 2023 3:23 pm

Her name is Naama Levi, Lizzie. She is 19.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
December 3, 2023 3:25 pm

Her name is Naama Levi, She is 19.

Is she one of the hostages that Hamas now “can’t find”?

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 3, 2023 3:29 pm

Impeachment by a petition of 5% of the electorate?

No thanks. Just as you don’t want the fuzz interpreting the law (beyond operational discretions),you don’t want judges delivering judgements with one eye on the mob. It isn’t perfect but I’ll take the present Australian position thanks.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 3, 2023 3:42 pm

Her name is Naama Levi, Lizzie. She is 19.

Thanks CL, and Salvatore. I had read this and couldn’t recall it. Sadly, my memory for names is not what it once was and I do not bookmark atrocities. You are right, we should honour her with her name.

I do think she is probably dead.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 3, 2023 3:46 pm

Vicki
Dec 3, 2023 2:23 PM

This may have been posted before. It is the testimony of an Israeli woman who was tasked with gathering testimony and examining evidence of the atrocities against women on 10/7:

https://twitter.com/AmIsraelChai_/status/1730763803753586802?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1730763803753586802%7Ctwgr%5E23bda0b289fbb27817264bab26ab883293b82d48%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.michaelsmithnews.com%2F

Vicki,

I have the 1 page of horror from the Israel UN Ambassador QR Code on the 1 page left in the Ireland UN Ambassador’s Desk

I have sent to some Politicians, but probaly never made it past the “No Knickers’ Apparatchik Desk who processes the emails

I sent a email to Israel Consulate in Canberra saying they should take Full Page Ads in Australian Sunday Newspapers & would be happy to contiubute to the cot

Perhaps on 7 Dec 2023, 2 months after the Atrocities of 7 Oct 2023, Dover could put up thread with that page of Horrific Images as the Top Picture

The Palestinian Gazan Hamas Barbarism & Atrcoities should not be forgotten

There are 16 Images on that one page – Horrendous – was a 6 min 28 Secs Video as well, but Google stopped access to that video

rosie
rosie
December 3, 2023 3:46 pm

I’d be very surprised if Naama Levi or any of the other three teenaged IDF females are alive.
I’ve mentioned before one of the Israelis I follow on twitter put up another telegram video of that stolen Israeli military jeep, (with yellow squiggles over the windows) surrounded by happy, filming gazans.
If you couldn’t figure out what was going on inside, especially after seeing her bundled into the jeep and two or three of her rapists getting in afterwards, well I can’t help you.
Sure if you were on telegram you could find it.
It should sicken anyone, sadly it doesn’t.
You don’t know how many on twitter demand that they be shown the rape videos.
Can they hear themselves?
As for the palimuppets suggesting that the video (at that special showing for journalists etc) of a heavily pregnant woman being slapped to keep her concious while they cut out her baby must have been old footage of the Mexican drug cartel cutting out a man’s heart, though they hadn’t seen it themselves (I have not seen it nor do I want to).
They could have been in the room with hamas and they would still deny it.
The purpose of terrorism is to terrorise.
They do it, and they film it, because in the past it was islam’s low cost conquering technique.
It worked not that long ago in Iraq, for a while, anyhow.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 3, 2023 3:47 pm

I recall seeing and commenting here on a black-faced Jesus we saw in an Italian monastery recently. As well as a black Madonna. There are doubtless many reasons for the range of interpretations used in the past and as we see now too. Most cultures will view a deity through their own traditional prisms.

rosie
rosie
December 3, 2023 3:48 pm

Hamas may have Naama still but as a soldier she was not eligible for exchange under the terms of the recent ceasefire.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 3, 2023 3:52 pm

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Dec 3, 2023 3:47 PM
I recall seeing and commenting here on a black-faced Jesus we saw in an Italian monastery recently. As well as a black Madonna.

IIRC, Poland has a famous icon of a Black Madonna.

rosie
rosie
December 3, 2023 3:53 pm

Jesus wasn’t a white man, whatever that is, he was a middle eastern Jew, and yes every culture depicts him and Our Lady as one of their own.
possibly the appearance of a modern day Iraqi Jew

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
December 3, 2023 3:54 pm

BJ as much as I’d like that idea at the end of the day the parliament needs to do it’s job. BBS bought up Love vs Cmnwlth which was on my mind above and still hasn’t been fixed.

I hope Im not coming across as bashing judges as a easy vent for decisions I don’t agree with. However I think immigration detention & deportation should rest with the minister as a last resort. Dangers, ooh yeah many but when various judicial and semi judicial body allows straws to be clutched at and then invents more it shows we have a problem. Then when the top court in the land agrees well there needs to be a fix. I’m sure legal minds would be able to devise a solution but there are too many interest in the status quo. Like migration lawyers that seem to have exploded in numbers since my last visit to Cairns… hmmm…

Anyway rants off & to the pool. Going to look at a block at Kerrawa Beach later, looks like a steat so I’m wondering the catch. Flood zone, enviro restrictions….

rosie
rosie
December 3, 2023 3:56 pm
Cassie of Sydney
December 3, 2023 4:03 pm

I’d finish it off with the picture of the bloodied pants of the woman being kidnapped and now probably dead.”

When you look at the footage, Naama is bleeding from the anus. It’s pretty clear Naama has been vaginally and anally raped by the Nazi Palestinian monsters. She’s also in a state of shock.

I should remind everyone here that is has taken nearly nine weeks for the UN to condemn the sexual violence of that awful day. I also note that maggot of a foreign minister of ours, the same one who was implicated up to the neck in the Lehrmann/Hoggins imbroglio, up to her neck in the Porter allegations, up to her neck in the harassment of Nicolle Flint when she was in parliament, has had little to nothing to say about the sexual violence committed against Jewish women on that day. She is a despicable hypocrite.

Believe all women, except Jewish women WHO’VE ACTUALLY BEEN RAPED.

And it’s the same for all the other so called feminist maggots that infest and infect this country, from scum such as Chlamydia Ford, Marieke Hardy, Van Badham, and all other mediocrities, ALL F*CKING HYPOCRITES. Remember Lidia Thorpe, complaining about Senator Van or whatever his name is. I note her silence about Naama Levy. But you see, these women, be it Wong, Ford, Hardy and so on are selective about sexual violence and assault. They don’t mind if those women who don’t fit into their ideological camp are intimidated, are threatened, are harassed, are assaulted, are raped, are murdered, are decapitated. WONG ET ALL ARE HYPOCRITES. I cannot begin to describe my visceral loathing for the left who’ve come out to defend, to justify, to trivialise the Nazi Palestinian violence of 7 October 2023.

I’ve just gotten home, I caught the bus back from the CBD, the bus was forced to detour because it seems parroting Jew hatred on Sydney streets every weekend now means everyone else has to be inconvenienced. I sat with my back to Hyde Park so I couldn’t see the Nazi Palestinian flags blanketing Hyde Park.

Indolent
Indolent
December 3, 2023 4:05 pm
Indolent
Indolent
December 3, 2023 4:07 pm

Of course it is, and not by accident.

Quality of Life is Declining Sharply in Western Countries

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 3, 2023 4:09 pm

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare Avatar
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Dec 3, 2023 3:47 PM

I recall seeing and commenting here on a black-faced Jesus …

Who does this Jesus think he is?
Justin Trudeau?

rosie
rosie
December 3, 2023 4:09 pm
Boambee John
Boambee John
December 3, 2023 4:10 pm

I am conflicted with many of the reports about the events in Israel and the release of the hostages.

I am torn between giving a firm Thumbs Down to the events described, but also want to give a Thumbs Up to the person posting the report, particularly if it describes the release of hostages.

calli
calli
December 3, 2023 4:11 pm

Instead they were disciplined, courageous, and strategic – exactly the virtues being lauded in the British troops. Then finally at the end, when the Zulus leave, they salute the British as fellow warriors.

It’s one of the reasons why I love the movie so much.

It’s about heroism and valour. Two utterly opposing cultures, two sets of mighty warriors. Different tactics, different types of heroism, the chanting and the singing to bolster courage.

All lost on the woke. All they see is black and white and attribute nobility and victimhood based on colour.

PeterM
PeterM
December 3, 2023 4:11 pm

There’s a Black Madonna at Montserrat out of Barcelona FWIW

calli
calli
December 3, 2023 4:14 pm

C.L.
Dec 3, 2023 2:33 PM
The Blessing of the Cathedral Nativity Scene 2023

Note the heavy police presence in the background.

Australia, 2023.

Everything old is new again.

Judea 1AD

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 3, 2023 4:15 pm

Old Ozzie, I’ve seen various examples of the barbarism applied on Oct 7th, they came up in the side-bars sometimes when you clicked on other links in the first few weeks, and I don’t need to go searching for them now or looking at more: they’ve had their day searing into world consciousness. Others may disagree, but I’ve seen enough, and apparently not the worst. However, I am prepared to just go on sworn testimonies now.

The appalling and well-known photograph featuring Naama Levi can stand for all of the sexualised ferocity of Hamas barbarians. I think generalist sites like the Cat should leave anything more observational to the forensic professionals and the historians now. Carefully gathered testimonies and the already known photographs (on their way to becoming iconic) are best for memorialising at this stage.

calli
calli
December 3, 2023 4:17 pm

Lamp smoke. It has damaged many carvings of the Madonna.

Some materials absorb it more easily than others.

Roger
Roger
December 3, 2023 4:20 pm

The Blessing of the Cathedral Nativity Scene 2023

Note the heavy police presence in the background.

The notion of God incarnate is anathema to Islam.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 3, 2023 4:23 pm

Knuckle Dragger Avatar
Knuckle Dragger
Dec 3, 2023 2:46 PM

There was talk of putting Cameron Green into an opening slot to allow both him and Mitch Marsh to play in the same team.

Probably not suggested outside the back pages of The Worst Australian or talkback callers to 6PR.
Why not Dom Sheed opening the batting.
The parochialism of cricket commentators is something to behold.
Jim Maxwell was the worst. If anyone was struggling in the Test team it wouldn’t matter if logical substitute was reeling off repeat centuries or Pfeiffers in Shield Cricket for SA, WA or Victoria. Jim could be counted on to dredge up the name of some nobody from Sydney grade cricket to step in.
Exhibit A – Ed Cowan, (also a protege of Peter Roebuck).

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 3, 2023 4:24 pm

The thumbs down icon has very limited utility except in jumping on trolls. Quite often you can’t be sure what the negativity is about and I suspect we have here thumbs down trolls who do it for fun. People with real objections to a comment should come in and say why. Thumbs up (upticks) are more helpful, as they can indicate an agreement or acceptance or merely act like a nod in conversation that keeps the ball rolling, saying little more than someone is listening and appreciative.

Tom
Tom
December 3, 2023 4:29 pm

The notion of God incarnate is anathema to Islam.

And to Islam’s athiest useful idiots in the West, who cheer on inhuman muslim terrorist barbarism because it’s against Jews and Christians.

There’s something clearly masochistic about the Western left’s self-loathing.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 3, 2023 4:29 pm

Quiet Sunday afternoon at home with Hairy. I like these.

Strolling around the internet, dropping in on the Cat.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 3, 2023 4:31 pm

Probably not suggested outside the back pages of The Worst Australian or talkback callers to 6PR.

An outrageous slur. Anyone who willingly spent a day in the sun at the WACA should be listened to.

Zafiro
Zafiro
December 3, 2023 4:32 pm

Why not Dom Sheed opening the batting.

C’mon, it’s got to be Harley Reid!

Roger
Roger
December 3, 2023 4:35 pm

There’s something clearly masochistic about the Western left’s self-loathing.

It exhibits many unhealthy characteristics, including self-hatred and a herd mentality (some brief discussion of the herd mentality aspect this morning).

Pogria
Pogria
December 3, 2023 4:37 pm

Rosie,
your link to Moran Yanai. The downtick is mine. Terribly sorry, I didn’t mean to. Sunday afternoon semi-snoozing, I’m all thumbs.

Vicki
Vicki
December 3, 2023 4:37 pm

The purpose of terrorism is to terrorise.
They do it, and they film it, because in the past it was islam’s low cost conquering technique.
It worked not that long ago in Iraq, for a while, anyhow.

The thing is – in the terrorist rampage in Syria/Iraq it worked against IS. The footage of them lining their victims up to behead – & especially the terrible beheadings of the foreign western workers – shocked the western world & gathered military opposition.

Many westerners had forgotten what cruel bastards the militants are. This is why the photographs and footage are essential. It certainly deeply disturbed Elon Musk & completely changed his attitude. That may prove more important than people can imagine.

Sorry Lizzie. I understand why it is too much for you. But I am convinced that the evidence is essential to keeping support for Israel. They have enough ingrained anti-Semitism to contend with. This can be the antidote.

In any case, those poor women must NEVER be forgotten. Or put in the “Oh, I don’t want to look” basket. Because the anti-Zionists will not desist on denying it ever took place – or worse – claiming it is concocted by Israel.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 3, 2023 4:37 pm

C’mon, it’s got to be Harley Reid!

After he wins a premiership.

calli
calli
December 3, 2023 4:38 pm

Thanks for the potted history of Hebron, Cassie.

Interesting how the deflection to the West Bank is the best the Hamas apologists can do when the atrocities of 7/10 are rammed in their ugly, stupid faces.

You’ve given me some more ammunition to use with the idiots.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 3, 2023 4:39 pm

this is the sort of thing that makes muslims seethe

You don’t like it don’t vote for obscenities against Israel.

The IDF will come in and they will use your kitchen.

Note that they are not raping you though.
Nor deliberately dismembering your children in your own kitchen.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 3, 2023 4:39 pm

H B Bear
Dec 3, 2023 4:31 PM

Probably not suggested outside the back pages of The Worst Australian or talkback callers to 6PR.

An outrageous slur. Anyone who willingly spent a day in the sun at the WACA should be listened to.

Oh, sorry, I forgot to mention …
“Probably not suggested outside the back pages of The Worst Australian or talkback callers to 6PR, or informal selectors meetings around Swampy’s BBQ.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 3, 2023 4:39 pm

P
Dec 3, 2023 2:49 PM

Albanese government ‘betrayed’ every Jewish person in Australia: Rowan Dean – Sky News

P,

From the Comments

– I can understand why misinformed people might consider the so-called ‘west bank’ as disputed or occupied territory. But I am completely bamboozled when it comes to Gaza.

In 2005, Israel gave up Gaza to the Palestinian Authority under Abbas. All Gazan Jews were removed from their homes and resettled in Israel. Israel does not govern or occupy Gaza in any way.

They completely gave it up and pulled out. It was a beautiful place, and could have been a Mediterranean Singapore.

But it is now Hamastan.

– Albanese and Wong have been abysmal and are both unfit for purpose.

– No Arab nation has condemned the atrocities committed by Hamas, and none will.

This violence is called for in the Koran; the “holy” book of Islam. As Tayyip Erdogan, Turkey’s PM, said: “There is no moderate or immoderate Islam. Islam is Islam and that’s it.”

There is no love in Islam, only hatred, and the atrocities will continue.

– UN should be defunded

– They have also betrayed every Australian in this now unlucky country

– Thanks for educating Australian people.

Top Ender
Top Ender
December 3, 2023 4:40 pm

Lizzie:

Then we find out that the problem is intensified in aboriginal communities, with an article on Alice Springs showing how drastic the issue is within the aboriginal population, cries for more help with prevention as well as more ICU’s.

If you go and spend time in an Aboriginal Outback community, you quickly find the “community store” – read shop fortified with heavy gauge wire and roll-down doors – has their top selling items as 1) chips 2) hot chips 3) Coke 4) lollies and 5) roast chooks.

Frozen kangaroo tail makes an entry later down the list, but it often used as a weapon instead of tucker.

Add grog and drugs to the above and nothing to do – eg: no jobs – and it’s hard to see how the problem of diabetes can be fixed. Except as in the patented Top Ender suggestion: close it all down and everyone moves to town and assumes a normal lifestyle.

Bespoke
Bespoke
December 3, 2023 4:41 pm

And to Islam’s athiest useful idiots in the West, who cheer on inhuman muslim terrorist barbarism because it’s against Jews and Christians.

Leftist athiest aren’t true athiest they worship many gods, Tom.

Pagans?

Vicki
Vicki
December 3, 2023 4:47 pm

I have the 1 page of horror from the Israel UN Ambassador QR Code on the 1 page left in the Ireland UN Ambassador’s Desk

I have sent to some Politicians, but probaly never made it past the “No Knickers’ Apparatchik Desk who processes the emails

I sent a email to Israel Consulate in Canberra saying they should take Full Page Ads in Australian Sunday Newspapers & would be happy to contiubute to the cot

You are a gem, Old Ozzie. We both register outrage re 10/7 at a similar level on the Richter scale.

In this fast pace world, it is often hard to maintain the rage. But this is a seminal point in world events, I believe. Many will mock this & say it is another point in human history. And so it is. But it has more significance, I believe, than most think. It itches every historical nerve in my body, so to speak.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 3, 2023 4:47 pm

Therapeutic Albanese, the ‘Please Like Me’ Beta Male Prime Minister

Sunday Telegraph is spot on with this voter assessment of our hopeless non-leader.

Zafiro
Zafiro
December 3, 2023 4:49 pm

Anyone who willingly spent a day in the sun at the WACA should be listened to.

I did that once. First day of the ’82 test vs. the Poms. Pretty boring day. Tavare dug in. Should have gone the following day when the soccer hooligans invaded the pitch and Terry Alderman did his shoulder tackling one of them.

rosie
rosie
December 3, 2023 4:50 pm
Johnny Rotten
December 3, 2023 4:50 pm

Indolent
Dec 3, 2023 4:05 PM
Whistleblower: 20% of New Zealand’s Vaxxed Population Have Died

Is horse teeth one of them and did she really get the Jab(s)? Saline maybe I guess.

Cassie of Sydney
December 3, 2023 4:50 pm

Thanks for the potted history of Hebron, Cassie.”

I tell you what is really making me angry, and that is the white leftist Jew hating scum out there who know nothing about the history of the middle east, and particularly what we now call Israel. Most of these f*ckwits, including that f*ckwit who periodically comments and who’s definitely lurking every day here, KNOW NOTHING. They don’t know about the almost 800,000 Sephardi and Mizrachi Jews who were expelled and driven from Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Libya, Egypt, Yemen, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq and Iran. They don’t know that there were always Jewish communities in Safed, in Jerusalem, in Hebron, even in Gaza, perhaps people here didn’t know that up until recently there was a Jewish community in Gaza. Bet nobody knew that, and when were the Jews of Gaza expelled, or let’s use contemporary parlance….ETHNICALLY CLEANSED? During the Arab riots of 1929, the same year of the pogrom in Hebron. The Gazan Jewish community dated back hundreds of years.

By the way, another inconvenient fact, Jerusalem had a Jewish majority decades before the state of Israel was established.

Johnny Rotten
December 3, 2023 4:51 pm

PeterM
Dec 3, 2023 4:11 PM
There’s a Black Madonna at Montserrat out of Barcelona FWIW

That’s not Jesus.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 3, 2023 4:52 pm

https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2023/12/therapeutic-albanese-the-please-like-me-beta-male-prime-minister.html

PS From the Comments

– Albo’s micro aggression is legendary. He’s as tough as the skin on yesterday’s custard, a legend in his own lunchtime.

– Are casting aspersions on the wundaful albosleazy? aka foreskin, it disappears when things get hard….

– Foreskin, the Invisible Albotross!! bwhahahaha

– It’s been all downhill since the election. Flying around the world, photographed either eating ice cream or guzzling beer at sports venues, being defensive when questioned, could not care less about Australians doing it tough, fails to keep power price promises, gives away billions of taxpayer dollars with no return for Australia’s benefit and just totally unfit for office.

After him comes his pathetic government with all the recycled losers still playing at politics only for the salary and benefits.

What has this country come to?

– You can put a trench coat on a pig and it is still a pig.

– Gee those Muslim thugs from Western Sydney are more alpha males than Alboturd

– Day by day ..he’s shrinking into the little nasty turd he’s always been.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 3, 2023 4:54 pm

Cassie of Sydney
Dec 3, 2023 4:50 PM

Thanks for the potted history of Hebron, Cassie.”

By the way, another inconvenient fact, Jerusalem had a Jewish majority decades before the state of Israel was established.

Cassie,

What stunned me about Jerusalem during Passover 2011, was the amazing number of different Relgions in the City Co-Existing then.

rosie
rosie
December 3, 2023 4:56 pm

The footage of them lining their victims up to behead – & especially the terrible beheadings of the foreign western workers – shocked the western world & gathered military opposition.

Mty recollection is that Obama folded his hands while Christians and others were slaughtered until there was finally sufficient outcry over the 50, 000 Yadizi fleeing through the Sinjar mountains, then he reluctantly intervened.
As for Syria the atrocities continue eleven years on.

Johnny Rotten
December 3, 2023 4:57 pm

I’ve had a few arguments with people, but I never carry a grudge. You know why? While you’re carrying a grudge, they’re out dancing.

– Buddy Hackett

Bespoke
Bespoke
December 3, 2023 4:57 pm
Roger
Roger
December 3, 2023 4:58 pm

I tell you what is really making me angry, and that is the white leftist Jew hating scum out there who know nothing about the history of the middle east, and particularly what we now call Israel.

Reference the indigenous actors from STC who are so ignorant of history they don’t know that the Jews are indigenous to Israel.

Hasn’t stopped them lecturing theatre goers though.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 3, 2023 4:59 pm

Albo’s honeymoon has disappeared faster than Episode 2 of MAFS.

Vicki
Vicki
December 3, 2023 5:00 pm

If you go and spend time in an Aboriginal Outback community, you quickly find the “community store” – read shop fortified with heavy gauge wire and roll-down doors – has their top selling items as 1) chips 2) hot chips 3) Coke 4) lollies and 5) roast chooks.

Have called into such stores when on outback drives. In one store there were a couple of Aboriginal kids in front of me at the checkout. They must have spotted me earlier because they had grabbed a few packets of lollies & fizzy drinks & when they reached the checkout, pointed to me & said “She’s paying”!!

Needless to say, I denied that emphatically.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
December 3, 2023 5:00 pm

Here in flyover country, the most common reaction to the Star-of-David button I’ve been wearing ostentatiously in my collar:

“What’s that thing?”

Yep, not one person has recognised it, & when explained what it is, they develop a furrowed brow, not understanding it. They’ve never seen one before & have no idea what it is. Probably half the people I meet, or more, have never heard of “Israel” & shrug when informed it is “a country”

There’d be more recognition of the “Squid Game” logo, borne out by some people actually recognising it on my coffee mug.

Roger
Roger
December 3, 2023 5:02 pm

There’s a Black Madonna at Montserrat out of Barcelona FWIW

That’s not Jesus.

Erm…the baby is.

Vicki
Vicki
December 3, 2023 5:02 pm

BTW the scariest stores I have seen were on the Tanami Track at Rabbit Flat (now closed, I believe) &, even worse, at Yuendemu. The latter was sufficiently off-putting, that we decided not to get out of the car & drove on. Fortunately, we had filled up at Kangaroo Flat. You don’t have that choice these days.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 3, 2023 5:04 pm

the anti-Zionists will not desist on denying it ever took place – or worse – claiming it is concocted by Israel.

I am not arguing against testimonials nor photographic evidence, just about the best use of it. I wouldn’t want this attack to become devalued as just more internet click-bait, an entertainment, with the next click going to rescue dogs or Meghan and Harry’s latest lies. I’d like to keep a level of seriousness surrounding the use of it. I’ll admit that I may be over-thinking that.

It’s not about squeamishness on my part, Vicki. At fifteen (believed to be 17), and untrained, I worked as a dogsbody in a medical surgery in Sydney’s underserviced West, where some very bloody accidents were left to my care ’till the doctor arrived’. I cleaned them up as per instructions for when he did get there. At twenty-one in New Guinea I’ve looked after women with their breasts nearly cut off by machetes as payback, taking one of them on the three-hour trip to the nearest hospital. I’ve been at my own four and other childbirths. And I’ve never been too concerned about doing a bit of home-made veterinary surgery either. So, no fainting couch needed. Just a concern about getting things done right, thinking maybe the Cat is not the place for these pics at this stage. Up to Dover anyway, of course.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 3, 2023 5:06 pm

SloMo the anyone but Shorten PM. Albo the “Who’s left?” PM.

Tom
Tom
December 3, 2023 5:07 pm

I tell you what is really making me angry, and that is the white leftist Jew hating scum out there who know nothing about the history of the middle east, and particularly what we now call Israel.

Cassie, my theory is that most of the anti-semitic Australian left are young females rebelling against their fathers. Their teachers have made hating Jews fashionable and, for these young trollops, nothing is as important as being fashionable.

rosie
rosie
December 3, 2023 5:11 pm

Though Rimal isn’t very Brighton any more, as a Hamasisis playground it has been redecorated by the IDF.

Vicki
Vicki
December 3, 2023 5:11 pm

As for Syria the atrocities continue eleven years on.

Probably do, Rosie.

Years ago, when the internal strife in Syria was beginning to get mentioned, I decided to search the internet for information. I ended up getting more than I bargained for, as beheadings were already beginning in small communities where the agents of IS were establishing local reigns of terror.

Have no desire ever to return to the Middle East. I have not been to Syria (got up to the border), Iraq or Iran. And despite my deep interest in the ancient past, I have no regrets.

Roger
Roger
December 3, 2023 5:16 pm

Something good comes out of COP28:

20+ countries have signed an agreement on the sidelines to triple their investment in nuclear energy

They include the United States, the UK, France, Japan, Bulgaria, Canada, Czech Republic, Finland, Ghana, Hungary, Japan, South Korea, Moldova, Mongolia, Morocco, Netherlands, Poland, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Sweden, Ukraine and the UAE.

Note who’s missing…Us!

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 3, 2023 5:16 pm

They don’t know about the almost 800,000 Sephardi and Mizrachi Jews who were expelled and driven from Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Libya, Egypt, Yemen, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq and Iran. They don’t know that there were always Jewish communities in Safed, in Jerusalem, in Hebron, even in Gaza

I tell everyone about this, for we learned so much simply from the memorials to these various Mediterranean Jewish communities that lined the hallways of Sephardic House, a fascinating hotel where we stayed, near the Western Wall in the old city of Jerusalem.

These Jews are not forgotten in those hallways, nor elsewhere in Israel for the remnants moved to Israel for the promise of Never Again.

calli
calli
December 3, 2023 5:19 pm

Cassie, my theory is that most of the anti-semitic Australian left are young females rebelling against their fathers.

Tom, you have opened up a whole new line of thinking for me and I’m testing it against all the young females I know.

So far you have come up trumps. And the fathers in question aren’t much chop either.

Vicki
Vicki
December 3, 2023 5:20 pm

I am not arguing against testimonials nor photographic evidence, just about the best use of it. I wouldn’t want this attack to become devalued as just more internet click-bait, an entertainment

Totally understand, Lizzie. But I don’t think most contributors of this blog would see the evidence in this way.

Nor do I think you are “squeamish”. It is just that I continually see, in my circle, the tendency to “whitewash” and/or deny and/or totally ignore what happened. Few people “out there” really want to endure upsetting evidence in order to get an accurate understanding of what happened.

I don’t think this applies to the contributors on this blog – obviously. What I am saying, and people such as Old Ozzie & others are saying is that “take this evidence” & shove it before people!

Roger
Roger
December 3, 2023 5:21 pm

And the fathers in question aren’t much chop either.

In which case what are they rebelling against?

An absence of fathering?

Roger
Roger
December 3, 2023 5:22 pm

An absence of fathering?

That is a common factor among young males who join gangs.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 3, 2023 5:23 pm

Johnny Rotten

Dec 3, 2023 4:51 PM

PeterM
Dec 3, 2023 4:11 PM
There’s a Black Madonna at Montserrat out of Barcelona FWIW

That’s not Jesus.

Well, der.
It’s his muvver you moron bovver boy (honorary part-time).
If his muvver was blek, it is likely he would contain traces of blekness too.
Just like your Thai lady-boy bears some resemblance to his muvver.
What do you imagine Jesus looked like?
A pasty faced ranga with a cloth cap and wearing a Liverpool soccer shirt?

will
will
December 3, 2023 5:24 pm

speaking of scary stories from the outback:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4lF5h1YtP8

the usual suspects

will
will
December 3, 2023 5:26 pm
calli
calli
December 3, 2023 5:26 pm

Weakness, Roger. Despite the crapola about toxic masculinity, they want a man who will lead. Benevolent leadership, nurturing, confidence in them as they grow up and mature.

But they don’t get it. Then they choose beta types and become cockess of the walk and wonder why their marriages are rubbish.

rosie
rosie
December 3, 2023 5:26 pm
Vicki
Vicki
December 3, 2023 5:28 pm

my theory is that most of the anti-semitic Australian left are young females rebelling against their fathers.

I havn’t tested it in my family – but I am guessing that granddaughter (who identifies – bizarrely – with the “dispossessed”) will identify with the Palestinians. Grandson (who lives by common sense & has Jewish friends) will almost certainly be with Israel.

As for son-in-law, who once accused me of “unconscious bias” (me??? unconscious anything???) will very likely be pro-Palestinian.

None of this will be tested this Christmas. Out of the blue, husband and I have been invited to Christmas dinner………….

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
December 3, 2023 5:29 pm

20+ countries have signed an agreement on the sidelines to triple their investment in nuclear energy

But not Blackout Bowen.

There are some dunderheads in the Labor party – starting from the top.

But this imbecile takes the cake.

Vicki
Vicki
December 3, 2023 5:30 pm

Then they choose beta types and become cockess of the walk and wonder why their marriages are rubbish.

Ha! ha! Calli! You are not wrong!

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 3, 2023 5:30 pm

A lot of pining for historically accurate depictions here.
I can’t draw an accurate portrait of Jesus, but I know this much … he definitely wouldn’t have had ginger hair and freckles, and nor would he have passed for a member of Abba.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 3, 2023 5:30 pm

Vicki
Dec 3, 2023 5:20 PM

I don’t think this applies to the contributors on this blog – obviously. What I am saying, and people such as Old Ozzie & others are saying is that “take this evidence” & shove it before people!

Vicki,

Correct, Google seems to have banned access to the QR Image & Video

The horrendous Images need to be out there & shoved in Peoples Faces so that cannot deny what happened, especially the Young

Sorry Lizzie, disagree with you here.

Roger
Roger
December 3, 2023 5:31 pm

Something good comes out of COP28:

20+ countries have signed an agreement on the sidelines to triple their investment in nuclear energy

‘Speaking in Dubai yesterday, French President Emmanuel Macron took the opportunity to flagbear for the energy source. “I want to reiterate the fact that nuclear energy is a clean energy,’ he said as France signed the Declaration. ‘Nuclear energy is back.”’

It was only a matter of time, of course, as government’s realise their self-imposed emissions targets will not be met otherwise.

Unless you’re Chris Bowen, whose response is to burn more tax payers’ money.

(I’d be happy to continue with coal fired, btw. But if the “international community” (God bless ’em) prevents us from burning it, we’re going to need nuclear too.)

Rabz
December 3, 2023 5:33 pm

I had the radio show scheduled to post last night but it didn’t post, and because I was out, I didn’t notice until it was too late

😕

calli
calli
December 3, 2023 5:34 pm

I’ll add something else. My girls chose alpha types, both strongly Christian and Jewish. Committed family men, loving, faithful and true. The New Broom, a chip off the old block, whisked a beautiful young lady off her feet and would lay down his life for her without a second thought.

This is what women need in men. All the other stuff is window dressing and hogwash.

Indoctrinated, severely edumacated girls are looking at the wrong manflesh. And their indoctrinators, on the masculine edumacation side, are making sure that’s all they will ever get.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 3, 2023 5:35 pm

Johnny Rotten

Dec 3, 2023 5:29 PM

The Hypocritical Financial Markets

Look, I didn’t have time to read it.
Any mention of jail-time for fraud?
Or the fact that he composes his own subscriber testimonials/Dorothy Dixxer questions?
Oh, and stop slowing the site down with spam links to the fraudster.
No-one reads them.

Rabz
December 3, 2023 5:37 pm

‘Evolutionary psychology’ is so much claptrap

The Rog, just gettin’ the truth out there – again.

Bespoke
Bespoke
December 3, 2023 5:39 pm

Do what you feel is right.

No need for struggle session over it.

Zippster
Zippster
December 3, 2023 5:39 pm

In an interview with Journal du Dimanche on Oct. 22, Darmanin said that the security of French citizens would take precedence over the human rights of suspected jihadists.

Anyone in the gov reading this???

Roger
Roger
December 3, 2023 5:40 pm

I’ll add something else. My girls chose alpha types, both strongly Christian and Jewish.

Good for them!

C.L.
C.L.
December 3, 2023 5:40 pm

Good to see push-back against these well-known ‘conservative’ gay commentators for ‘having’ babies.

Abusive, woman-hating and monstrous:

https://twitter.com/willchamberlain/status/1731126923143647657

Vicki
Vicki
December 3, 2023 5:40 pm

My girls chose alpha types, both strongly Christian and Jewish. Committed family men, loving, faithful and true.

In many ways, my daughter chose a husband with many of the wonderful characteristics of her father. However, unlike her father, who left the corporate world early & set up his own business, her man climbed the corporate ladder.

Some men survive with their qualities and beliefs intact. But I have observed that the latest generation have attended too many corporate indoctrination sessions.

miltonf
miltonf
December 3, 2023 5:41 pm

(I’d be happy to continue with coal fired, btw. But if the “international community” (God bless ’em) prevents us from burning it, we’re going to need nuclear too.)

me too Roger but because it’s getting so critical now in Australia, we need to run with something that can do the job. And nuclear can do the job and we have the fuel here too.

C.L.
C.L.
December 3, 2023 5:42 pm

Muslims being Muslims…

They’ve bombed another Sunday Mass in the Philippines.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 3, 2023 5:42 pm

calli
Dec 3, 2023 5:34 PM

I’ll add something else.

My girls chose alpha types, both strongly Christian and Jewish. Committed family men, loving, faithful and true.

The New Broom, a chip off the old block, whisked a beautiful young lady off her feet and would lay down his life for her without a second thought.

This is what women need in men. All the other stuff is window dressing and hogwash.

Indoctrinated, severely edumacated girls are looking at the wrong manflesh. And their indoctrinators, on the masculine edumacation side, are making sure that’s all they will ever get.

calli,

you mean like this

Why women invented husbands, a most useful technology

Parnell Palme McGuinness Columnist and communications adviser

Once upon a time, a very, very long time ago, paleo-feminists meeting at the Annual Paleo-Femintern had a kick-arse idea. Early humans had tamed wolves and turned them into their drooling diddy-dums. They’d tamed panthers and turned them into purry little beggars. How about trying it with men? And that was how they invented husbands.

OK, so just as with the taming of wild animals, the process, in reality, would have been less a committee decision and more incremental. But as with many of humankind’s great inventions, husbands can be so useful that in hindsight the idea seems obvious.

Well-functioning husbands share an equal investment in the success of any offspring. Women ravaged by giving birth to infants with absurdly big frontal lobes through a bipedal pelvis need support to continue to nourish the baby with their bodies. While women are immobilised breastfeeding, devoted men have their hands free to bring food. Well-fed baby brains grow smarter. Husbands, it turns out, weren’t just a nice to have; their contribution literally fed the burgeoning intelligence of our species. Husbands are an incredible technology with a clear “use case”, as software developers would say.

Author and academic Cat Bohannon gives an account of how our species evolved, which puts women, the key means of reproducing it, front and centre. In Eve, a rollicking feminist rant of an

evolutionary tale, Bohannon overturns the male-centric view of just about everything. It was gynaecology, she argues, not the Stanley Kubrick vision of chimps building tools of war, that marked the move to a more modern hominid.

The case is compelling and the book is a must-read for anyone in possession of female plumbing. But in light of the way husband technology has been glitching lately, it was the section on family structures that felt particularly important.

Worth a Read or Listen

Wife & I were in stiches listening

Bohannon describes a theory of how husbands were “invented” based on the behaviours and group structures of our ape cousins. She explains amusingly how in some matriarchal primate societies, males have been observed carrying around babies “as a kind of adorable bodyguard”. The strategy is simple: if there’s a biff between males and one is holding a baby who knows him, the baby will scream at the unfamiliar male. The female monkeys then come rushing to the aid of the baby and, by extension, the male holding it. I’m never going to look at a man carrying a baby in a papoose in the same way again.

And there was another perk. “The helpful guys got laid,” Bohannon writes. “A lot. That means males who had friendly relationships with females and offspring were more likely to pass on their genes. So they got an advantage by being aggressive with other males, but they also got an advantage by changing out those behaviours with the females who were really running the place.”

Sounds pretty good. But here enters a very hominid problem: in matriarchal societies, competitive females were a significant problem for the powers that were.

So early women struck what Bohannon calls a devil’s bargain. “The devil’s bargain wasn’t just a deal women made with men; it was a deal they made with other women,” she argues. Women invented sexist social behaviour such as slut-shaming to go alongside monogamy as a way to control conception. It helped space births so that the leaders’ babies got a good share of the resources.

Rabz
December 3, 2023 5:43 pm

Blackout Bowen

Very disappointing to hear the Dean and the panel claiming this morning that Teats Peanuthead was some sort of possible successor to the albansleazey – “He’s been really sensible and low profile”.

Which would be due to the fact that he’s busy bonking his latest mistress.

A certain Miss Personage.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
December 3, 2023 5:44 pm

rosie
Dec 3, 2023 5:04 PM

Area now known as Rimal, the Brighton of Gaza.

The Brighton of Gaza.
An interesting comparison:

Brighton: the gay capital of the UK.

The IDF is doing the thriving Gazan QWERTY community a favour by reducing the height of tall buildings.

miltonf
miltonf
December 3, 2023 5:45 pm

He’s been really sensible and low profile

yeah sure

miltonf
miltonf
December 3, 2023 5:46 pm

Even less appeal than Mick Trumble. Hard to believe it’s possible.

Bespoke
Bespoke
December 3, 2023 5:48 pm

The IDF is doing the thriving Gazan QWERTY community a favour by reducing the height of tall buildings.

Harsh but true.

No more closets to hide.

Johnny Rotten
December 3, 2023 5:49 pm

Sancho Panzer
Dec 3, 2023 5:23 PM

Well der’ Mrs Stencho Pantyhose, please keep up with the posts and events.

As I stated earlier, all the paintings that I have ever seen and the films that have ever been made (that I know of) show Jesus as being WHITE. So, please show him as a person from the geographical region that he came from. Not much to ask for for some historical ‘truth’.

Not a big ask these days when Disney and Netflix are showing loads of other historical figures as being black/brown –

Cleopatra and others just lately.

Maybe SBS and the ALPBC could show Bruce Pascoe as being black/brown. Now there’s a thought.

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