Open Thread – Weekend 16 Dec 2023


Seeing Shepherds, Daniel Bonnell, 2010

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Mark Bolton
Mark Bolton
December 16, 2023 5:56 pm

I once recall .. was it a decade ago ? or two? When I needed a counterfatual .. and I trusted you people to help with a piece of the jig saw…

And I got good information and more …

What has happened to you ?

Roger
Roger
December 16, 2023 5:56 pm

…wandering tribes of hunter-gatherers on the Australian mainland.

Who now purport to be nations with borders that can be drawn on a map.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
December 16, 2023 5:57 pm

Winston if your lucky you might get some storms tonight. Band to the S and SW of Barcy & Longreach, slowly moving north east.

ex-Jasper has stalled over the Cape and spreading convection everywhere. Feeding some moist tropical air into the central and southern areas of the state…

Bloody annoying after whinging about no rain I have amassed a bunch of items from Bunnings only to be stalled for 2 days now due to persistent waves of showers. Can’t win eh?

duncanm
duncanm
December 16, 2023 5:59 pm

Blackadder did at least establish the proper procedure to follow when stepping on a mine.

JMH
JMH
December 16, 2023 6:02 pm

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Bruce of Newcastle
Dec 16, 2023 5:49 PM

Gina Rinehart has acquired Australian bootmaker Rossi Boot

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I have worn Rossi boots for decades. Won’t be changing now! 🙂

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 16, 2023 6:06 pm

The pricing on RMs has been a bit steep for years. I expect my pair will see me out from here.

rosie
rosie
December 16, 2023 6:06 pm
JMH
JMH
December 16, 2023 6:07 pm

Winston: An update on aref’s Elsie, please. Are you going to keep her inside or do you have an outside enclosure hat would be suitable. Just a query from a cat lover, that’s all.

Mark Bolton
Mark Bolton
December 16, 2023 6:09 pm

@ JMH

I loved the shearers boots .. the ones with the laces on the sides so as not to snare anything. Now I go Mongrel Boots … I never once sheared a sheep but loved the comfort.

rosie
rosie
December 16, 2023 6:09 pm

Twitter tells me that the three hostages killed by the IDF were being used as human shields by Hamas and were trying to escape.

Hamas morons are trying to claim they were shot by Hamas using IDF guns because something something.
It’s tragic for everyone on the side of good.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 16, 2023 6:15 pm

gemma tognini gemma tognini
A true hero isn’t a luvvy in a keffiyeh – it’s Ben Zussman

12:00AM December 16, 2023
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“If you’re reading this, something must have happened to me.”

I almost scanned over this post when I first came across it on social media, scrolling past. It’s so easy to do these days. So much heaviness and heartache. So much ignorance.

Curiosity arrested me, and here we are. You’re reading the words of 22-year-old Ben Zussman. He was killed in a battle with Hamas in northern Gaza on December 3. Before going into battle, he wrote a letter that his family received two days after his death. They have given it to the world, and what a gift it is.

The words are fierce and tender, full of joy, purpose and staggering, heartbreaking courage.

Barely a man, Zussman would have known the risk of not just death but worse. Being taken hostage by Hamas and tortured, then executed. Killed more than likely in public or on a live stream. Or as Hamas did with an elderly woman on October 7, uploading to her Facebook page a video of her lying on the floor of her home, dying, surrounded by terrorists, so the woman’s granddaughter and family could see.

This is Hamas. This is who our federal government chose to stand with this week at the UN. Hold that thought for a moment, while I talk a little more about courage

Zussman had strict instructions for his family should he be captured, warning them in the letter not to mince his words.

“I’m not prepared for terrorists to be released in exchange for me in any way, shape or form. Please don’t violate this,” he wrote.

It’s the most jarring of contrasts, isn’t it? In Israel, a young man with his whole life ahead of him considers the cost of this war on terror and willingly pays the price.

By staggering, embarrassing contrast, in Australia this week a few thousand folk in the arts sector (colour me shocked) engaged in what they called a day of action. They wore keffiyeh, Palestinian scarfs, during various perform­ances across the country. They think this is an act of courage. They call it taking a stand. This isn’t courage; at best, it’s accessorising. They’re pulling a cheap stunt, at no cost, before an audience of friends. Nothing brave about it.

Australia, where is our courage? I wish to ask our federal government that question directly. From the start, this government’s position on Israel has been a flim-flam of spineless confusion, blowing this way and that like a reed in the wind, double minded all the while.

This past week, in a backflip worthy of Nadia Comaneci, Australia, before the world, stood with the likes of Iran, Afghanistan and other such human rights luminaries in voting for a ceasefire in Gaza.

Without any reference to Hamas, without any demand it surrender, without so much as a word to acknowledge the 138 hostages still rotting away underground or any demand for their safe return.

This is not courage, this is caving in. To what and to whom, I’m not sure. Others are more versed in the backroom machinations of federal Labor than I am or care to be, but I will say one thing with certainty. History will remember this moment, this lack of moral clarity and failure of courage. History will remember the side they chose.

Such are the shifting sands beneath what was once our nation’s steadfast moral centre. The ability to know right from wrong, truth from fiction, courage from cowardice. While it took no courage for the federal government to abandon Israel, it does take a PhD to try to make sense of its position.

By way of reminder, Hamas is the government of Gaza, government being a somewhat loose term given there hasn’t been an election since 2006.

Hamas sponsored the invasion of Israel on October 7, it boasted about it, it gloried in it, and it has publicly stated since that it intends to repeat these atrocities as often as it takes to wipe Israel and the Jewish people from the map.

On the one hand, Anthony Albanese and Penny Wong want you to believe they stand with Israel.

On the other hand, they just chose to side with Hamas. The same Hamas that broke the first ceasefire within a week of it starting, reneged on handing over the hostages, and sent a suicide mission into Jerusalem in which three civilians were murdered while waiting for a bus. The same Hamas Australia rightly proscribed as a terrorist organisation on March 4 last year.

In voting for the UN resolution, the message from Australia to the people of Gaza was this. You don’t deserve freedom. You don’t deserve democracy, like ours. You are not worthy of being liberated from the heavy hand of tyranny. To borrow an expression from my late father, federal Labor is trying to ride one horse and lead another.

Cowards use hospitals and schools as a base for military operations. Cowards take babies and the elderly hostage. Cowards sexually brutalise women, so violently that their victims’ bodies break. These are the obvious faces of cowardice. Closer to home, the weaklings are middle-class intellectuals who organise protests from the safety of tenured academia. Who rip down posters of kidnapped civilians. Cowards cover their faces and scream anti-Semitic slurs and call it activism.

And at the top of it all, cowards crumble under pressure when the world is watching.

In his death, Zussman gave us a gift. An enduring picture of courage and conviction. He understood that democracy is fragile and worthy of defending.

Israel is many imperfect things, but it is a democracy. The only functioning democracy in the region. A society in which people of all faiths, races, sexualities and beliefs live side-by-side under a system of governance with the rule of law. The UN, and the Australian government in voting the way it did, has failed it.

rosie
rosie
December 16, 2023 6:17 pm

The lady with the gazan hijabi in the house, I think there was a story about them a few weeks ago, the safe room wasn’t found because the husband pulled a cabinet in front of the door as he entered the room so it wasn’t found.
Maybe the hijabi thief who bothered to turn off the electricity to the safe room was content not to have her peace disturbed by having her pals burn the family out, or perhaps jihabis took over more than one house.

DavidH
DavidH
December 16, 2023 6:18 pm

Australia second innings just starting … caption on Kayo showed “Opening Batsmen”, not “batters” (what you make pancakes out of). Is some sanity returning?

Rafiki
Rafiki
December 16, 2023 6:20 pm

Calli
Ours is an adversarial system, in which it is for the parties, acting through their lawyers, to determine the ultimate issues for decision bt the judge, and what facts they will adduce. On many occasions neither lawyer wants some issue of fact explored. Lawyers expect the judge to respect their choices, except where some particular matter requires clarification.
Lee J went (in my view of course) much further. Having asked Wilkinson a couple of “gate closing” questions he popped the zinger “do you think you should have used more caution in dealing with Higgins through Shiraz”? (Or something like that.) If Wilkinson admitted that she should have, that would have weakened her public interest defence. But she was smart enough to say using Shiraz was not her decision and would have preferred that Shiraz be avoided. This answer undermines Ten’s public interest defence.
Both Chrysanthou and Hill were silent. I can’t speculate why.
Perhaps we will hear no more publicly about Lee J’s intervention.
My main beef is that Sharaz, who will not be a witness, and has no lawyer in court looking after his interests, has his reputation called into question. This happens frequently (in other cases), and the poor bugger has no redress.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 16, 2023 6:21 pm

Rafiki
Dec 16, 2023 4:43 PM

A person commits a contempt of court if they ridicule, or maybe just subject to criticism, a witness during the course of the relevant trial. It is reasonable to think that in today’s Australian, Simon Rice, and maybe Janet Albrechtson, have crossed the line and are in contempt.

Can you point to the ridicule in question?
Apart from quoting accurately the Toad’s own words?
How is a direct quote of someone’s own stupidity contempt.
Given the issues of contempt which Lee has already touched on (the Loggies) I doubt there will be any smacks issued by the bench on Monday.
…..

Lee J himself could find his feet placed in the fire. As I remarked earlier, his cross-examination of Wilkinson as to whether she should have dealt with Sharaz was batted away by her (in a way that drew the ire of Higgins), but it seems to have been premised on a view that Sharaz may have manipulated a vulnerable Higgins. Will Sharaz make complaint to the NSW Judicial Commission?

Good luck with that.
I think Lee would enjoy having Sharaz appear before a judicial tribunal.
It is likely to shake loose a lot of unfavourable stuff for Sharaz and Britnah.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 16, 2023 6:22 pm

What has happened to you ?

Mark, we changed and got hairer.

I’m an ape man, I’m an ape ape man! – The Kinks (1970)

Bespoke
Bespoke
December 16, 2023 6:23 pm

Don’t need another reason to buy Rossi Boots but it’s good Gina owns it now.

Roger
Roger
December 16, 2023 6:24 pm

The UN, and the Australian government in voting the way it did, has failed it.

Perhaps our present Australian government doesn’t believe in democracy?

They did attempt to foist the divisive Voice upon us and even though it was overwhelmingly rejected they are now proceeding with that project in a form which doesn’t require constitutional amendment.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 16, 2023 6:25 pm

I loved the shearers boots .. the ones with the laces on the sides so as not to snare anything.

Shearers boots don’t actually have laces – they use straps instead…

Zafiro
Zafiro
December 16, 2023 6:26 pm

I have Redbackboots. Almost 3 years old and going well. I stand all day at work. They have good cushioning.

Mark Bolton
Mark Bolton
December 16, 2023 6:27 pm

@ Bruce of Newcastle

I try so hard to keep an open mind and not to become a pathetic fossil imbued with breath … I wont pretend I get it right, even sometimes. .. but at least I try …

Peace.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 16, 2023 6:28 pm

RuthM
Dec 16, 2023 4:52 PM
Not the Western Front, but Gallipoli; two of my father’s brothers were there. One write home to his mother, describing daily life, which he managed to portray much as a seaside holiday. He did set out though that they were rotated every several days between up in the foxholes and down on the beach.

Both survived there and Western Europe; the letter writer went on to join the Dunster Force about which I have little information.

Dunster was said to be the model for Stalky in Kipling’s Stalky and Co.

An Australian Captain, Stan Savige, was a member of Dunster Force. He served again in the Second World War, and ended up as a LTGEN, commanding Australian forces in Bougainville.

calli
calli
December 16, 2023 6:29 pm

I want to see Sharaz have his day in court also.

I’ve a great desire to see him “exude power” as he is questioned.

Vicki
Vicki
December 16, 2023 6:29 pm

Hope you noted that I said I didn’t agree with it either, Vicki.

Yes, Lizzie!

Bespoke
Bespoke
December 16, 2023 6:30 pm

Like these Mark?

No for me though.

Mark Bolton
Mark Bolton
December 16, 2023 6:31 pm

@ Zafiro I still have the fire fighting boots from 10 years ago … I was given them and I fought the fire …

Kinda rhetorical ? .. we have the boots we were given but can we step back into them ?

They are lovely boots gotta tell ya …

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
December 16, 2023 6:31 pm

Ben Zussman , RIP, a true hero.

Mark Bolton
Mark Bolton
December 16, 2023 6:36 pm

@ Bespoke Most definitely … but when I rock up to work so glamorous as that … not sure I will get ticked “good” on the .. Job Safety Analysis form .. or what ever… 😉

Muddy
Muddy
December 16, 2023 6:36 pm

From Zulu’s post above (Excellent. Thank you for posting):

This isn’t courage; at best, it’s accessorising. They’re pulling a cheap stunt, at no cost, before an audience of friends. Nothing brave about it.

This (above) deserves to be chiselled in stone.

Courage involves risk; personal risk. Hence the boom and emotional flush of ‘like’ activism, where one can ‘change the world’ (a world one is largely unaware of) from the comfort of home.

We used to publicly admire individuals who risked their own safety to perform feats of endurance or speed or yes, self-sacrifice. Now we (apparently – I’m not part of this world) worship well-resourced, protected by legislation or social acceptance, ‘rebels’ whose intent is to corrode all that they stand upon.

The older I become, the more I feel that Darth Vader in the Star Wars (original) trilogy had the right attitude: No mercy. Destroy the planet upon which they exist. Problem solved. Move on to the next planet.

Zafiro
Zafiro
December 16, 2023 6:36 pm

I loved the shearers boots .. the ones with the laces on the sides so as not to snare anything.

Shearers boots don’t actually have laces – they use straps instead…

I have mainly seen shearers wearing Moccos. Even wetsuit booties. Boots not as much.

Bespoke
Bespoke
December 16, 2023 6:38 pm

Well played Mark.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 16, 2023 6:40 pm

Moccasins are best for shearing in.
Was when i was shearing anyway.

Alamak!
December 16, 2023 6:40 pm

I have mainly seen shearers wearing Moccos. Even wetsuit booties. Boots not as much.

In my shed-handing days never saw shearers in boots. They usually wore moccasins of some kind – some hand-made and some like these

Katzenjammer
Katzenjammer
December 16, 2023 6:41 pm

How a Palestinian Woman Took Over an Israeli Family’s Home on Oct. 7

Reports talk about Hamas and Palestinians as though they’re two different peoples, broadcasting an image as though Hamas arrived from somewhere else as invaders and has subjected the downtrodden Gazan population against their will.

Cassie’s video link

Women marry Hamas, have children who become Hamas. Grandparents have Hamas grandchildren. Hamas are Palestinians. Palestinisn are Hamas.
And, yes, there’s exceptions, but as Brigitte Gabriel says “the peaceful majority are irrelevant”.

Mark Bolton
Mark Bolton
December 16, 2023 6:42 pm

@ Zafiro .. they were very fashionable in Tasmania in the early 80s …

Last time I saw shearers … I wanna say about 3 years ago … compare and contrast ..when I saw first time shearers .. back in the 60s… sure some tar was required…

But last time it was a blood bath … Meridden WA about three years ago …

It was a mess.

Muddy
Muddy
December 16, 2023 6:44 pm

Then Major General Stan Savige commanded the Third Australian Division during a chunk of the Wau-Salamaua campaign in New Guinea, which I wrote about several months ago.

His most recent biography is The Right Man for the Right Job by Gavin Keating. It’s an interesting read. Savige was criticised (a little too unfairly, I think) in Gen. John Wilton’s biography, but I recall also that Savige was a guiding light of Legacy post The Great War.

Mark Bolton
Mark Bolton
December 16, 2023 6:45 pm

But I am not trying to generate some controversy … about wool gathering… what would I know ? I just didnt like the looks of it..

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 16, 2023 6:46 pm

Might get to see Sheraz in court next year anyway.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/breaking-news/senator-linda-reynolds-defamation-case-against-brittany-higgins-fiance-to-end-in-tears-financially-court-told/news-story/aec3cd3837b3d356ca32b28b93e17b48
Senator Linda Reynolds’ defamation case against Brittany Higgins’ fiance to ‘end in tears financially’, court told

Muddy
Muddy
December 16, 2023 6:47 pm

Bruce of Newcastle
Dec 16, 2023 6:22 PM

I’m an ape man, I’m an ape ape man! – The Kinks (1970)

You’ll be hearing from the AFL, BoN.

calli
calli
December 16, 2023 6:48 pm

Katz, I know what it’s like to have lunatics rioting outside my home. They would have ransacked it had we not been there.

They were primitives from the Highlands, rioting over a perceived black magic curse from the white man.

The creatures in Gaza are so much lower on the evolutionary tree than a people who had only seen their first aeroplane 90 years ago. They took delight in their crime. That poor woman, strong, courageous, explaining what had happened to her.

Dismissed by inarticulate numbskulls because reasons.

Rabz
December 16, 2023 6:49 pm

Off to see the Cruel Sea shortly, Cats.

Yee-hah!

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 16, 2023 6:50 pm

This mob of lawters seem to imply the toad is toast..

Toad in the hole, if you will.

https://www.sydneycriminallawyers.com.au/blog/higgins-wilkinson-lehrmann-heroes-or-victims/

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 16, 2023 6:50 pm

Ah geez.

I was talking to some associates downstairs in the lobby and missed Warner’s duck.

Gutted.

Winston Smith
December 16, 2023 6:52 pm

My solution to the Palestinian problem?
Evacuate the Gaz Strip and demolish what’s left.
Evacuate the West bank and all of the inhabitants go to the East bank of the Jordan River.
Don’t like it?
Tough titties, Arabs. This is what it is to be conquered – the very same fate you were offering the Israelis, but without the mass rapes, murders, and kidnappings.
Count your blessings and this time elect a government and not a criminal gang.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 16, 2023 6:52 pm

One set of work boots I wore lasted six weeks then fell apart. What happens when you wade around in copper sulfate solution alternatively with slaked lime slurry. I cou’d’ve done with something a bit tougher, but they were work issue so it didn’t cost me anything, except that my feet turned black from fine copper sulfide concentrate dust.

Heavy Metal – Don Feder (1981)

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 16, 2023 6:52 pm

Meridden WA

Where’s Meridden?

JMH
JMH
December 16, 2023 6:53 pm

thefrollickingmole
Dec 16, 2023 6:46 PM
Might get to see Sheraz in court next year anyway.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/breaking-news/senator-linda-reynolds-defamation-case-against-brittany-higgins-fiance-to-end-in-tears-financially-court-told/news-story/aec3cd3837b3d356ca32b28b93e17b48
Senator Linda Reynolds’ defamation case against Brittany Higgins’ fiance to ‘end in tears financially’, court told

Let’s bloody hope so.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 16, 2023 6:57 pm

Labbashagnee gorn.

Gunshy of the cracks in the deck, and having almost had his finger broken the over before, skies an extremely poor hook shot right up the chimney to the keeper.

Straya 2/5.

Mark Bolton
Mark Bolton
December 16, 2023 6:59 pm

@ Bruce of Newcastle . I once got assigned to a little hill to help out with an IPO ..out back of Mount Augustus .. I wanna say it was called ?? ..well I cant remember .. but the Hill ? It was green … copper does that …

http://marksfieldnotes.blogspot.com/2012/12/once-upon-time-in-land-far-away.html

Bespoke
Bespoke
December 16, 2023 7:04 pm
Winston Smith
December 16, 2023 7:05 pm

The frolicking moll:
thefrollickingmole

Dec 16, 2023 5:16 PM
I’ve thought for at least 20 years, we could do worse than to set up a Merkava production line here in Australia.

Nope, I want my stug…
Why we couldnt have used our obsolete leopards as gun platforms instead of wrecking them and cementing up the engines…

There’s no reason why we couldn’t have done so. Strip the turret and upper hull, fit a casemate and add a 120mm main gun to it.
Issue it to the anti tank battalion in a Brigade.
This sort of stop gap measure kept the Eastern Front semi stable at minimal industrial cost for a couple of years.

Indolent
Indolent
December 16, 2023 7:08 pm
Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 16, 2023 7:10 pm

I was talking to some associates downstairs in the lobby and missed Warner’s duck.

Goat stranded on 499. Do please get your 500th sir.

Doo doo doo doo doo (Goats Head Soup, 1973)

Been a pleasure to watch Mr Lyon bowl.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 16, 2023 7:13 pm

Knuckles, you may be pleased to know your canine namesake is now a scofflaw.
Removed from town to Kalgoorlie hes on the run and about to be declared a “dangerous dog”.

Ive signed more papers to facilitate his tracking down and …. purging.

Helen Davidson (nmrn)
Helen Davidson (nmrn)
December 16, 2023 7:13 pm

My solution to the Palestinian problem?

Contraceptives in the drinking water.

Non-reversible vasectomies or tubal ligations for before any prisoner/hostage exchanges.

Israel is being accused of genocide anyway. Might as well be hung for a sheep as for a lamb.

Winston Smith
December 16, 2023 7:14 pm

Carpe Jugulum:

Winston, tell your mechanic to do a worst case price and if he is willing add 15% margin on top.
That will expedite things.

Thanks for that, Carpe. But the issue here is that it’s going to be written off if I do that, and -apart from the ?stuffed engine – the car is in excellent condition. The paintwork is near new, the interior is similar, the suspension and everything else is well looked after.
The car has been garaged since new and while it has 110K on the clock it’s a great car.
The other aspect is what would I replace it with? Every car for the last decade is full of bing bongs and alarums and they drive me nuts.
Honestly I’d rather put a reconditioned motor in it and keep it on the road. All of that depends on cost and I’m not prepared to spend any more than $10k on it.

Winston Smith
December 16, 2023 7:15 pm

Cassie:

It is culture, we are shaped by culture. Not all cultures are equal, some are better than others.

Yes. I may have made that point here previously.

Muddy
Muddy
December 16, 2023 7:18 pm

Public comment to a NY Post article regarding surrendering h@m@s in northern Gaza:

If this happened in any Arab country, Gaza would have been leveled on Oct 8th, there’d be 200,000 dead. And no one would say a word.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 16, 2023 7:18 pm

thefrollickingmole at 6:46

Might get to see Sheraz in court next year anyway.

Looks like Marty has declared total war. Seconds out.

Mark Bolton
Mark Bolton
December 16, 2023 7:22 pm

@Bruce of Newcastle …. even when there wasn’t a “play” the evidence of the Earth being creative was always there for me… mica ….expressing on ground ….the places I went. Evidence of the planet being a bit hot and bothered … Loved it …

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 16, 2023 7:25 pm

It was green … copper does that …

Cool photos Mark – the site looks not unlike where I was in Warrego, NT. A fun time!

The Blackleg Miner – Steeleye Span (1970)

Winston Smith
December 16, 2023 7:27 pm

Rockdoctor

Dec 16, 2023 5:57 PM
Winston if your lucky you might get some storms tonight. Band to the S and SW of Barcy & Longreach, slowly moving north east.
ex-Jasper has stalled over the Cape and spreading convection everywhere. Feeding some moist tropical air into the central and southern areas of the state…

I’m watching the storm just to the south of us, with a bit of wind and lightning. Still praying “Send ‘er down, Hughie!”
But no. It’s running into the rain barrier and heading south of us.
Just an inch would do a lot of good, but it’s not happening. At least the poor buggers to the south are getting a bit.

Johnny Rotten
December 16, 2023 7:29 pm

DavidH
Dec 16, 2023 6:18 PM
Australia second innings just starting … caption on Kayo showed “Opening Batsmen”, not “batters” (what you make pancakes out of). Is some sanity returning?

And are they still allowed to say ‘Bowling a Maiden over’? With the Women Cricketers, is the phrase ‘Bowling a Maiden Over’ allowed or even welcomed?

All very confusing. Batswomen. Batsmen. Batman. Batwoman. All very Batty?

And how about ‘Out for a Duck’. What about ‘Out for a Drake’ for the Women?

Even more Batty.

Mark Bolton
Mark Bolton
December 16, 2023 7:30 pm

@ Bruce of Newcastle .. Lurrvee Steel Eye Span !! Not punk but I forgive Maddy for being amazing ..

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 16, 2023 7:33 pm

Maher hits a high note, monologue on the Jewish/Hamarse situation.
https://twitter.com/billmaher/status/1735886698360586367

Katzenjammer
Katzenjammer
December 16, 2023 7:34 pm

But the issue here is that it’s going to be written off if I do that,

This week I was shafted with exactly the same trick. They accepted my claim, then told me they’ll class it as a write-off. I would receive about $12k market value, and need about double that to replace it and outfit it for 4×4 and towing, or cover the repair myself for $5k. I withdrew the claim. It was a polite conversation except for my part, but they’re probably well used to a particular style of language.

Mark Bolton
Mark Bolton
December 16, 2023 7:39 pm

@ Bruce of Newcastle .. Right about now I have the shitest job that you can imagine .. Traffic Controller.. “stop slow ” ..but it is like working in a museum … I hear “bleeding Fattcher” There was plenty good coal .. which there is / was.. and all sorts of weirdness. all sorts of Other people’s memories…

But not mine.. what do I remember ? I forget…

Bespoke
Bespoke
December 16, 2023 7:40 pm

He is not holding back, mole. Unlike other cowardly comedians.

Mark Bolton
Mark Bolton
December 16, 2023 7:43 pm

@ Bruce of Newcastle …

there are some things that cannot simply be forgotten

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6qv4uswKDA

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 16, 2023 7:44 pm

Lurrvee Steel Eye Span !!

I had a few of their’s on vinyl, gave them to a flatmate with my turntable when I got my first job. Which was making zinc.

Oliwange – Zinc (2022)

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 16, 2023 7:49 pm

Knuckles, you may be pleased to know your canine namesake is now a scofflaw

Outstanding.

Katzenjammer
Katzenjammer
December 16, 2023 7:49 pm

If this happened in any Arab country, Gaza would have been leveled on Oct 8th, there’d be 200,000 dead. And no one would say a word.

All those years wasted, Israel wanting to be treated like an ordinary western democratic country. They should have been promoting themselves as an ordinary Middle East country.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 16, 2023 7:51 pm

Mark – The art for Commoners Crown is one of the most breathtaking album covers ever. The songs ain’t bad either.

Long Lankin – Steeleye Span (1975)

The Bungonia Bee
The Bungonia Bee
December 16, 2023 7:53 pm

I had a few of their’s on vinyl, gave them to a flatmate with my turntable
You zinc you did the right thing?

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
December 16, 2023 7:54 pm

The bouncers were w*nkers.

—-

Steve Inman:

Austin TX: Weak Bouncers Instigate a Fight

Mark Bolton
Mark Bolton
December 16, 2023 7:55 pm

@ Bruce of Newcastle .. indeed that one was a blinder… THX for reminding me of that one ..

Winston Smith
December 16, 2023 7:56 pm

JMH

Dec 16, 2023 6:07 PM
Winston: An update on aref’s Elsie, please. Are you going to keep her inside or do you have an outside enclosure hat would be suitable. Just a query from a cat lover, that’s all.

I’m a firm believer in pets get the run of the house esppecially dogs. There’s no point in having a dog for protection then denying them the ability to be anywhere they need to be, even though I don’t have a dog. I’ve a cat door for when Elsie wants to go outside, then she can. (It will be blocked for the first couple of days until she works out where the food comes from), and I have cat litter left over from Fatso and Buddy – fresh, not used, of course.
A couple of little tricks I’ve found over the years is for when they first arrive in the house, smear a bit of butter on their feet. A cat will immediately start licking it off, and that will start the grooming process which settles them down considerably. Do it in a tiled area with a door, and after a couple of hours, a feed and a nap, just leave the door open after they wake up and ignore them as they explore.
Leave the food bowl on a dirty/sweaty T shirt and they’ll quickly associate the dirty smelly human with food and accept you.
Also pretending to ignore them works like a charm. A cat is used to manipulating humans, sometimes by ignoring them. Pretending to be asleep on the couch is one way to get them to interact.
Of course cats are a little like chimpanzees – scientists built a cage to keep a chimp in but with only three ways to get out. The chimp figured out a fourth way.
Cats are similar and fun.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 16, 2023 7:59 pm

(YT irritates me. When you get a track that’s labeled “Remastered!!!” it sounds like they’ve been recorded underwater in a pond somewhere. A vinyl LP and a cheap turntable is so far beyond the quality of YouTube it ‘s amazing any of us can stand the 21st Century. Technology seems to be going backwards. /rant)

The Bungonia Bee
The Bungonia Bee
December 16, 2023 8:00 pm

Henceforth the Boston Mayor should be known as “Tricky Wu”.

Zippster
Zippster
December 16, 2023 8:01 pm
Frank
Frank
December 16, 2023 8:01 pm

Even wetsuit booties.

The ones with a separate big toe give me the heebie-jeebies.

Johnny Rotten
December 16, 2023 8:02 pm

Little Johnny came home from school to see the families pet rooster dead in the front yard. Rigor mortis had set in and it was flat on its back with its legs in the air. When his Dad came home Johnny said, “Dad our roosters dead and his legs are sticking in the air. Why are his legs sticking in the air?” His father thinking quickly said, “Son, that’s so God can reach down from the clouds and lift the rooster straight up to heaven.” “Gee Dad that’s great,” said little Johnny.

A few days later, when Dad came home from work, Johnny rushed out to meet him yelling, “Dad, Dad we almost lost Mom today!” “What do you mean?” said Dad. “Well Dad, I got home from school early today and went up to your bedroom and there was Mom flat on her back with her legs in the air screaming, “Jesus I’m coming, I’m coming!” If it hadn’t of been for Uncle George holding her down we’d have lost her for sure!”

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
December 16, 2023 8:03 pm

Arky, if you’re there, you asked me a long time ago about the origins of life.

The book ‘Science of the Discworld’ by Terry Pratchett, Ian Stewart and Jack Cohen in chapter 24 does a good job of describing more or less current thinking.

It’s a fun book too.

Winston Smith
December 16, 2023 8:04 pm

ZK2A:

“I’m not prepared for terrorists to be released in exchange for me in any way, shape or form. Please don’t violate this,” he wrote.

A million billion upticks for this brave man.
And may the eternal light shine upon him and all his comrades.

Zippster
Zippster
December 16, 2023 8:05 pm
Bespoke
Bespoke
December 16, 2023 8:05 pm

Also pretending to ignore them works like a charm.

Secret to a good marriage.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 16, 2023 8:07 pm

The ones with a separate big toe give me the heebie-jeebies.

Only ever used them on a couple of trips to Bali. Split toe was a big plus in the surf.

Mark Bolton
Mark Bolton
December 16, 2023 8:07 pm

@ Bruce of Newcastle

I was there when the technology was getting invented … late 90s … none of us then saw any reason why we shouldn’t use our real names and we did…what have we to be ashamed of ? .. What we failed to realize was that we would be re corralled…like cattle .. we thought we had beaten the system … we thought we could never be constrained again … for one I chose not to comply …

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LC9km8qnbOY

Winston Smith
December 16, 2023 8:07 pm

Roger
Dec 16, 2023 6:24 PM

The UN, and the Australian government in voting the way it did, has failed it.
Perhaps our present Australian government doesn’t believe in democracy?
They did attempt to foist the divisive Voice upon us and even though it was overwhelmingly rejected they are now proceeding with that project in a form which doesn’t require constitutional amendment.

As we predicted, ignoring the wishes freely expressed by the Australian people.
“They don’t matter”.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 16, 2023 8:10 pm

And may the eternal light shine upon him and all his comrades.

Rest in peace, soldier, you will never be forgotten.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
December 16, 2023 8:13 pm

Suck sh*t you bastards.

John Wick to the rescue

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 16, 2023 8:14 pm

Rafiki at 6:20:-

Lee J went (in my view of course) much further. Having asked Wilkinson a couple of “gate closing” questions he popped the zinger “do you think you should have used more caution in dealing with Higgins through Shiraz”? (Or something like that.) If Wilkinson admitted that she should have, that would have weakened her public interest defence.

So what # 1. Why should Lee desist from asking relevant questions because “it might weaken someone’s defence”? As you say, it is an adversarial system. By definition, if these awkward questions aren’t asked, it weakens Lehrmann’s case.

But she was smart enough to say using Shiraz was not her decision and would have preferred that Shiraz be avoided. This answer undermines Ten’s public interest defence.

So what #2. See above. If exploring questions weakens someone’s defence, isn’t that a good thing? How can exposing facts to inform an adjudication be a bad thing?

Both Chrysanthou and Hill were silent. I can’t speculate why.

I can. They know Lee is on the right track and they’d rather let it pass than extend the discussion.

Perhaps we will hear no more publicly about Lee J’s intervention.

Err, I beg to differ. I think it will get a run in his judgement addressing Ten’s facade of “duty of care to Britnah” but allowing someone who clearly had another agenda to filter communications.

My main beef is that Sharaz, who will not be a witness, and has no lawyer in court looking after his interests, has his reputation called into question. This happens frequently (in other cases), and the poor bugger has no redress.

So what #3. Scores of people are mentioned in legal proceedings they are not party to every day, and often in an uncomplimentary context.
Lee hasn’t just plucked Joe Bloggs off the street here. Sharaz features heavily in evidence already, both in his own words on discovered tapes and transcripts and in witness testimony, primarily from Britnah.
Some snippets:-
– “Scott Morrison? I still hate the c*nt!”
– Britnah observing in evidence that Sharaz held a long-standing grudge against the Liberals.
– Sharaz and Britnah telling Ten their objective was to ensure Lehrmann was rendered unemployable for life. (Incidentally, how would this be achieved if they were going to ensure he couldn’t be identified?).
This is material which is within evidence submitted and heard. Why shouldn’t Lee explore whether the pivotal person in this shit-show – Sharaz – may not have come to this with clean hands. In fact, I think he would be negligent not to explore this aspect.
In terms of “Justice for Dave” that is really quite simple to address.
Lee’s comments were made, I believe, around 2:45 pm Friday. It would be a simple matter for him to engage a lawyer to review the material and apply to be heard before Lee first thing Monday.
Copious amounts of time.
In fact precisely the amount of time Ten gave Lehrmann to respond to an accusation of rape.

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
December 16, 2023 8:20 pm

An Australian Captain, Stan Savige, was a member of Dunster Force. He served again in the Second World War, and ended up as a LTGEN, commanding Australian forces in Bougainville.

Lieutenant General Sir Stanley George Savige – my father served under him in WW11 and admired him greatly. He founded Legacy.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 16, 2023 8:20 pm

calli
Dec 16, 2023 6:29 PM

I want to see Sharaz have his day in court also.

I’ve a great desire to see him “exude power” as he is questioned.

Of course, we will see some snippy Twitter from him.
But court?
Justice Lee’s court?
He will avoid it like the plague.

Bespoke
Bespoke
December 16, 2023 8:21 pm

The 19-year-old was part of a global peace organization bringing together Jews, Arabs and Americans and volunteered at a kindergarten helping new Israeli immigrants from Ethiopia.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 16, 2023 8:23 pm

You zinc you did the right thing?

He was skinter than I was, and I was just about to start my first real jerb.
Seemed a thing I could do, the path that I chose.

The Dissociatives – Young Man, Old Man (2004)

Johnny Rotten
December 16, 2023 8:27 pm

Saturday Night Music Time –

Riders on the Storm – The Doors

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7G2-FPlvY58

Zippster
Zippster
December 16, 2023 8:31 pm

Mathematical discoveries from program search with large language models

Wasn’t that long ago that some people here were rubishing early AI transformer architecture, well here we are a hair’s breadth from AI causing profound economy wide disruption.

People that will still be here over then 10-20 years will live through the most profound change to western civilisation since the industrial revolution.

Mark Bolton
Mark Bolton
December 16, 2023 8:32 pm

I am not an anti vaxxer ..a viral hurt that actually exist .. hey jab me up.. No Probs …

But the coof .. ? I aint jabbed but I have had the coof.. it just stank … the social dislocation and the lives lost through businesses and livelyhoods destroyed ..

sure the coof was bit debilitating but I have had worse hangovers …. but look at the damage that got done to our Community with this nonsense?

Bespoke
Bespoke
December 16, 2023 8:33 pm

Johnny English vs John Wick?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 16, 2023 8:34 pm

Oops, belay that last link. Here a vid which is actually visible with and with even better fidelity.

The Dissociatives – Young Man, Old Man (2004)

It has a grand total of 618 views but. I suppose that’s why it was so hard to find.

The animated vids for that album of Silverchair plus Paul Mac are very good.

Johnny Rotten
December 16, 2023 8:40 pm

A well respected Man – The Kinks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sm0Xw7tIzqk

Winston Smith
December 16, 2023 8:41 pm

Indolent:
Neil Oliver:

I reckon he’s right.
There’s a feeling of something in the air. And Neil is also right – the predator is at its most dangerous when it is wounded.

Bespoke
Bespoke
December 16, 2023 8:50 pm
Mark Bolton
Mark Bolton
December 16, 2023 8:50 pm

Since it is music we are doing… I know this is kinda gay and would have been more justifiable about 40 years ago …

J R

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNw7i0rPqq8

Mark Bolton
Mark Bolton
December 16, 2023 8:51 pm

IF ever… probably not …

Winston Smith
December 16, 2023 8:52 pm

Indolent:
Indolent

Dec 16, 2023 7:16 PM
Vivek says once you see the truth about January 6th, you can’t unsee it…

I am more and more impressed with Vivek – he seems to have grown into the race for the VP slot. He’s not sugar coating the media bullshit, and he’s not pulling punches with the other contenders.

Johnny Rotten
December 16, 2023 8:52 pm

“This is an actual exchange between amateur crime investigator/journalist Lisa Wilkinson, her own lawyer, (Sue Chrysanthou) and The Federal Court Judge today in the Bruce Lehmann defamation case.

Wilkinson: “Can I just add a significant fact”?
Sue Chrysanthou: “No!”
Lisa Wilkinson: “YES!”
Chrysanthou: “No!”
Wilkinson: “You’ll be happy with this!”
His Honour: “Miss Wilkinson, thank you so much for your assistance, you’re excused.”
Wilkinson: (interrupts Judge) “I’ve only ever met him once in my life”.
Chrysanthou : “Miss Wilkinson. NO”
His Honour: “Miss Wilk, Miss, Miss Wilkinson you’re excused”
Chrysanthou: “Thank you for excusing my client”
His Honour: “it’s ok. I’ve been in the same situation”

Brave Lisa:
– Won’t be told.
– Knows better than anyone else (even her own lawyer).
– Claims to not know the rules of contempt of court despite 40 prominent years in the news media …including two times as an editor of high circulation magazines, and hosting live to air national TV shows.

Brave Lisa did herself no favours.

Must be a heap of fun on the pirate ship.”

https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2023/12/if-this-is-what-shes-like-in-court-you-can-only-imagine-lisa-wilkinson-in-real-life.html

Muddy
Muddy
December 16, 2023 8:57 pm

Bespoke
Dec 16, 2023 8:21 PM

The 19-year-old was part of a global peace organization bringing together Jews, Arabs and Americans and volunteered at a kindergarten helping new Israeli immigrants from Ethiopia.

I’m sure the Filth Filter (media) showed more interest in the Thai children missing in the cave a few years back, than it has about the Israeli (and foreign) hostages. The latter, of course, are of the wrong tribe, and thus …irrelevant. Non-existent even.

Johnny Rotten
December 16, 2023 8:59 pm
Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 16, 2023 8:59 pm

Got to put this one up since it is good solid Ncl music, and a YT version that is actually audible and legible (in the visual sense). With 121 views. Go figure.

The Dissociatives – Somewhere Down The Barrel (2004)

Obviously there are actual high fidelity music videos around but somehow YT never wants to cough them up without serious threats of mayhem.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 16, 2023 8:59 pm

From mole’s link to the Oz article about Linda Reynold’s defamation action against Sharaz.

Mr MacLaurin [Sharaz’s lawyer] also tried to keep the option of transferring the matter to the ACT Supreme Court open, arguing Senator Reynolds was suing a private citizen in the WA Supreme Court when the matter has nothing to do with the state.

Oh, I’m sure he’d like it heard in the ACT.
The initial hearing is trying to force Reynolds to lodge security for costs if she loses.
Sharaz’s lawyers are worried she won’t be good for the money.
One potential source might be Reynold’s defamation action against Britnah. She can’t have spent the whole $2.5m on Tim-Tams already.

Johnny Rotten
December 16, 2023 9:04 pm

Time for some Hot Chocolate –

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_WLw_0DFQQ

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
December 16, 2023 9:05 pm

On thing I know,the Toad and the Pirate deserve each other.

Mark Bolton
Mark Bolton
December 16, 2023 9:07 pm

Wanna know something about Russians? They dont seem to think that thier entertainers need to flash thier twats..an “twerk’ and stuff In America you get no where without that part of the act…

No In Russia you dress as a rooster and sing an amusing song about the availability of eggs …

DAMN YOU PUTIN !!!

https://youtu.be/vwLuzqoAGNg

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 16, 2023 9:19 pm

GreyRanga

Dec 16, 2023 9:05 PM

On thing I know, the Toad and the Pirate deserve each other.

I see Bandana trying to split the finest Merino fibre today.
Khawaja protest good.
Folau protest bad.
Because peace vs gay hate.
As many pointed out, Khawaja’s “peace” protest glosses over the 4th October atrocity and others wonder what reaction Bandana would have if Khawaja took a traditional Moosley stance on QWERTY issues.
But we already know the answer to that. In the midst of the Folau bunfight, a Moosley AWFL player for GWS decided she couldn’t wear a gay pride jumper. She was quietly accommodated.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 16, 2023 9:20 pm

I know this is kinda gay

The Modern Lovers? That’s pretty hardcore. I can do hardcore.

The Supermen Lovers – Starlight (2001)

Mark Bolton
Mark Bolton
December 16, 2023 9:20 pm

Further this lady has a special voice… I have never seen her perform in other than just a pair of working man;s denim pants … why would she have to … her job is to sing and she does it magnificently … why do American singers need to flash thier reproductive organs ? Is it possibly that the audience needs every “tap” to get some attention .?

Well stay true to healthful practices?

https://youtu.be/vxKO70PpnAo

Winston Smith
December 16, 2023 9:23 pm

Katzenjammer

Dec 16, 2023 7:34 PM

But the issue here is that it’s going to be written off if I do that,

This week I was shafted with exactly the same trick. They accepted my claim, then told me they’ll class it as a write-off. I would receive about $12k market value, and need about double that to replace it and outfit it for 4×4 and towing, or cover the repair myself for $5k. I withdrew the claim. It was a polite conversation except for my part, but they’re probably well used to a particular style of language.

That’s the shitty part – the 380 was insured for $4k – that’s all they would allow. The issue is that it will cost $25K to replace, or $10k for a new short motor.

Winston Smith
December 16, 2023 9:24 pm

Zippster

Dec 16, 2023 8:01 PM
The FCC just ambushed Elon Musk’s Starlink service

Didn’t they try a similar stunt with a few of his launches? Deny him the permission to launch on really odd grounds?

Mark Bolton
Mark Bolton
December 16, 2023 9:29 pm

@ Bruce of Newcastle … Yes .. Jonathon Richman was far more a dissident voice than the yelly and drug addled Iggy … But He was a Conservative !! When did we ever require of our “entertainers” any sense of morality or rectitude.. … Banjo Paterson seem ed to hit it ?

https://youtu.be/Ci1Cor4VY_4

Delta A
Delta A
December 16, 2023 9:29 pm

I have Redbackboots.

Winnie’s amputee mate is going halves with me on a pair of Redbacks.

That still makes me laugh.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 16, 2023 9:31 pm

No In Russia you dress as a rooster and sing

Russian rockabilly!

Winston Smith
December 16, 2023 9:33 pm

Steve trickler
Dec 16, 2023 8:13 PM
Suck sh*t you bastards.

John Wick to the rescue
All the rumble videos are playing for 3 seconds, stopping to download for 12 seconds then playing for 3 seconds.
Are you having this problem?

Mark Bolton
Mark Bolton
December 16, 2023 9:36 pm

@ Bruce of Newcastle

I plead “guilty ” to any charge !!! What ever you think I did wrong .. Oh YES I did it what ever it was … I plead diminished responsibility but once a Russian Woman ~rolls her RRRS~ I am toast …

Bespoke
Bespoke
December 16, 2023 9:39 pm

That still makes me laugh.

If you have Android phone Delta. Tell Google assistant to f### off. Funny as.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 16, 2023 9:41 pm

Mark, you clearly need a solid dose of The HU.

Sell the World – The HU (4 Oct)

Mongolian hard rock with throat music and electric morin khuurs.
Ridiculously good.

(Johanna is going to be furious with me if she hasn’t already seen this new single they’ve just put out.)

Mark Bolton
Mark Bolton
December 16, 2023 9:48 pm

@ Bruce of Newcastle …

know it well and love it …

Mark Bolton
Mark Bolton
December 16, 2023 9:50 pm

What ever happened to the baritone ?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 16, 2023 9:50 pm

That’s the shitty part – the 380 was insured for $4k – that’s all they would allow. The issue is that it will cost $25K to replace, or $10k for a new short motor.

With all due respeck, Nurse Betty, what did you expeck?
If the car has a market value of $4k and insurance companies allow you to insure it for $10k or $25k guess what happens?
Firstly, these cars start spontaneously combusting for no known reason. In fact, some poor souls might end up owning a string of cars which meet a sticky end (fully insured of course).
Secondly, in response to this, insurance companies would jack up premiums to account for this sudden outbreak of bad luck. Which you would no doubt complain about.
Why do you expect an insurer to pay 2.5 times, or even 6 times the contracted value?

Harlequin Decline
December 16, 2023 9:54 pm

Blogger ‘Kitten’ on Quora has just answered a question

Why is Israel so aggressive to Palestine?

England: Hey, I have a bunch of land I don’t want to bother with anymore. How about I give half back to Jews and half to Arabs?
Jews: Sure!
Arabs: No.

England: Okay, new plan. I gave over half to Arabs to make Jordan. Give rest back to Jews?
Jews: Sure.
Arabs: No.

England: Okay, new new plan. We split what is left, give land Jews already own to Jews for new country and worthless desert to Jews, and give rest, and good land, to Arabs to make own country. Cool?
Jews: Fine.
Arabs: Fcuk no!

England: Fine. I’m done. I wash hands.
Jews: Okay. We are now Israel! Mazel tov!

Arabs: Noooo! Attack attack attack!
Jews: Fcuk you. We don’t roll over and die this time. We win!
Arabs: Noooo! Give back land! 1947 borders!
Jews: Fcuk you. You lost war you start. Can’t demand 1947 partition plan now.

Arabs: Fcuk Jews. Kill all Jews. Drive back into sea! Attack!
Jews: Again? Do you not learn? Come at us same old way, we beat you same old way.
Arabs: Noo! Dirty Jews steal land! Give back!
Jews: Fcuk you. You lost war. Again. Go away.

Arabs: Please give back land? With cherry?
Jews: Promise not to attack anymore?
Arabs: Promise.
Jews: Okay fine. Have Sinai back. Okay?

Arabs: Attack!
Jews: Goddamnit.
Arabs: Noo! How do we lose? Inshallah!
Arabs: Israel is evil white European colonizer! Israel is illegal! Israel is Apartheid!
Jews: The fcuk?

Arabs: Israel is doing genocide to Palestinians!
Jews: Who are Palestinians? You mean Arabs?
Arabs: No! Palestinians who are native of Judea…I mean Palestine!
Jews: The fcuk? They were Jordanian, Syrian, Egyptian, yesterday.
Arabs: No no, always Palestinian! Give back country of Palestine! Attack!
Jews: Stop throwing rockets.
Arabs: No!
Jews: Fine. We shoot you.
Arabs: Genocide!

Jews: Ugh. Fine. We build Iron Dome.
Arabs: Not fair! Give us Iron Dome too! UN said so?
Jews: What? Why? Just stop throwing rockets.
Arabs: No!

Jews: Okay, fcuk this. You want own shit? Here. Have Gaza. We leave. Wait, why are you tearing up water pipes and shit?
Arabs: For rocket bodies.
Jews: Goddamnit.

Arabs: Waah! Israel won’t give us water!
Jews: Fcuk you. You are in charge of Gaza. You dug up pipes. Own problem now.

Arabs: Fcuk Jews! Attack!
Jews: Knock it off! Okay, fine, we blockade. Stop throwing rockets!
Arabs: No! Waah! Open air prison!

Jews: Just stop throwing rockets! Then all problems stop!
Arabs: No! Fcuk Jews! We throw more rockets! Resist occupation!
Jews: Jesus Christ. What occupation? We left!

Arabs: Apartheid! Genocide!
Jews: Whatever. Look, you are poor. Some of your people want to earn money in Israel. Promise not to make problems?
Arabs: Okay…
Jews: Cool.

Arabs: Attack! Murder! Rape! Hostages!
Jews: You motherfcukers! We kill you!

Arabs: Waah! Why Israel so aggressive? Waah!

Clear?

Dot
Dot
December 16, 2023 9:54 pm

$10k for a new short motor

You can get a 2001 Prado for the same price!

Mark Bolton
Mark Bolton
December 16, 2023 9:56 pm

@ Bruce of NC ..

I remain a Nina Hagen tragic … I have had to relinquish all control …

https://youtu.be/v-YzdvmD2aQ

But perhaps ? …

Dot
Dot
December 16, 2023 9:59 pm

Pretty god nick. Fortitude Valley, 10.9k AUD 2001 Prado 50th Anniversary 296k km.

https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/2001-toyota-landcruiser-prado-50th-anniversary-gxl-auto-4×4/SSE-AD-14460592/?Cr=1

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 16, 2023 9:59 pm

What ever happened to the baritone ?

Bass is better.

Show me the place (2012)

Katzenjammer
Katzenjammer
December 16, 2023 9:59 pm

@Winston, all we can do is grit our teeth, pay from our own pocket, and hedge it with shares in the profit making insurance company. It’s pointless tryint to shift their decision by telling them you’ll take your business elsewhere because they already showed they don’t want you. And other companies I wasted time with numerous online questions charge more for most likely the same polite shafting service.

pete m
pete m
December 16, 2023 9:59 pm

N Lyon would be bowling for his 600th wicket if he:

1. had a silly mid off fielder more often
2. appealed his LBWs to third umpire – dudded so many times

Bespoke
Bespoke
December 16, 2023 10:01 pm

Harlequin

That needs to be posted here.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 16, 2023 10:02 pm

This one’s for Civil War buffs.

John Reeve’s book “Soldier of Destiny” is a new look at Ulysses Simpson Grant. Makes the point that Grant always possessed the abilities of a commander, but was able to develop those abilities out West, without the pressures faced by more senior commanders in the East. He went from being ambivalent about slavery, to realizing that emancipation was the only way forward for the United States. (There’s much made about how, when Grant was farming in Missouri after he resigned from the U.S. Army over his drinking, he owned a slave, who he preferred to set free, rather then selling said slave, the proceeds of which would have paid most of his debts. Julia Grant, at the time owned four slaves..) Interesting reading – highly recommended.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
December 16, 2023 10:07 pm

Winston.

Should be able to find a short motor for less… Running not guaranteed for cheaper ones, did it once with a shitbox I drove after leaving school after burning the crankshaft of the old motor (Yes shenanigans). I re-ringed the new motor used old head & she was GTG.

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=mitsubishi+6g75+engine+for+sale

Some of the above google searches are tall motors, tested and hellava lot less than 10K.

For your perusal.

Dot
Dot
December 16, 2023 10:07 pm

HAHAHAHAHA

The matter of a potential legal threat issued to controversial blogger Shane Dowling was also aired, amid revelations on Thursday morning that Senator Reynolds was considering defamation action against him.

Mr Bennett said Mr Dowling had published an article about Senator Reynolds on his website, Kangaroo Court of Australia, before contacting Mr Bennett earlier this week with a series of questions for the Senator.

“I wrote back to him and said, effectively, your article’s defamatory, you know it’s defamatory, if you’re going to publish your article, you do so at your own peril,” Mr Bennett said.

But he also indicated nothing would come of the threat.

“I can’t speak for Senator Reynolds,” he said, “but you can’t sue every fringe commentator,” noting Mr Dowling is in a “unique position” over his apparent willingness to go to jail.

Mr Dowling has been imprisoned a number of times for contempt of court, and was once described by NSW Supreme Court Justice Helen Wilson as a “zealot, and one who is legally uninformed and factually deluded.”

This might be the greatest episode in Australian history. We are flushing all of the detritus and waste now.

Dot
Dot
December 16, 2023 10:09 pm

A f**king short motor? Are you serious? A speedway ready Mitsi 380?

Buy the f**king Prado and stop making terrible decisions.

Dot
Dot
December 16, 2023 10:10 pm

bons
Dec 16, 2023 12:03 PM

My outrage over and sympathy for the fellow who was held in remand for 8 months over false sex accusations crashed to the ground when I read that he declares himself to be non-binary and demands to be addresed as ‘they’.

Freaks attract freaks, don’t they – They.

No. This woman has done this many times over. He might be gaming the system too. Would you identify as a man with an openly hostile and misandric DPP and Asst Police Commish for sex crimes?

Mark Bolton
Mark Bolton
December 16, 2023 10:10 pm

@ B of Nc … so you gonna Leonard me … yeah Mate I am done … like a bird on the wire .. I am tapped out …

Dot
Dot
December 16, 2023 10:16 pm

Lee J himself could find his feet placed in the fire. As I remarked earlier, his cross-examination of Wilkinson as to whether she should have dealt with Sharaz was batted away by her (in a way that drew the ire of Higgins), but it seems to have been premised on a view that Sharaz may have manipulated a vulnerable Higgins. Will Sharaz make complaint to the NSW Judicial Commission?

LOOOL

Jog my memory. Who is the trier of facts in this case and are they entitled to have any evidence that is adduced clarified for the decision they make?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 16, 2023 10:17 pm

Dot

Dec 16, 2023 10:09 PM

A f**king short motor? Are you serious? A speedway ready Mitsi 380?

Buy the f**king Prado and stop making terrible decisions.

It does have a “good money after bad” feel.

Megan
Megan
December 16, 2023 10:19 pm

I read Ben Zussman’s letter to family, encountering it in exactly the same way as Gemma. That his family released such an amazing statement of courage to the world is a wonderful testament to the values with which he has been raised.

It made me cry, for the life he will never have, and for the life he gave for the greater good. May he rest in peace. That letter ensures his memory will be a blessing.

Gemma has written a blinder. It’s a shame the useful idiots she excoriates will pay absolutely zero attention to her clear message.

Zippster
Zippster
December 16, 2023 10:20 pm

Sam Altman on OpenAI, Future Risks and Rewards, and Artificial General Intelligence

skirts around the real change that is coming, vaguely alludes to it at the end of the interview and that is the replacement of white collar jobs by AGI. Robots that can replace blue collar jobs are also coming. It’s going to be a very different world

Dot
Dot
December 16, 2023 10:23 pm

Gammon on US real estate prices in 2024. Pisses on Dave Ramsey and sticks up for Schiff. Also explains how supply, demand and inventories really work.

Also: the US yield curve informs us that we are entering hard times.

Ha ha ha…

Will Real Estate Crash In 2024? (Answer Will Surprise You)

Mark Bolton
Mark Bolton
December 16, 2023 10:23 pm

@ B of NC .. I so love this song … I kinda liked it better when he was younger ..as do we all ..but being young was something that has just stopped happening…

https://youtu.be/BGvwvxA83Cs

Mark Bolton
Mark Bolton
December 16, 2023 10:37 pm

But that said there was nothing wrong with being young in the 80s… writers could write, actors could act … and we knew what was good for us … I recommend an Old School Histrorical Drama Narrative .. “By the sword Divided ” .. if only to remind yourselves what made us who we are …

Mark Bolton
Mark Bolton
December 16, 2023 10:40 pm

As in able to navigate complex Narratives and get the best out come given our circumstances … as distinct from screaming at each other to our own mutual annihalation …

Harlequin Decline
December 16, 2023 10:49 pm

Bespoke, just posted on the other thread. Seems to have gone into moderation for some reason.

Arky
December 16, 2023 10:50 pm

Dot
Dec 16, 2023 10:23 PM
Gammon on US real estate prices in 2024. Pisses on Dave Ramsey and sticks up for Schiff.

..
Love George Gammon.
Really entertaining guy, great natural teacher.

Zippster
Zippster
December 16, 2023 10:51 pm

I Can’t Overstate How Dire This Is | Bret Weinstein
The Rubin Report
0:00 Intro
1:37 The Future of Western Civilization
9:50 The Missteps of the New Atheists
13:55 The Arbitrary Nature of Our Education
18:24 Societal Consequences of Rapid Progressivism
32:29 The Most Important Lesson of COVID
39:10 Elon’s Role in Free Speech Battle
43:03 Bret’s Personal Meeting with Elon
49:59 Issues with Ineffectively Collaborating

Muddy
Muddy
December 16, 2023 10:57 pm

Whoa!
I don’t want to step on Tom’s toes, but The Week in Pictures has a stunning visual at the end.

duncanm
duncanm
December 16, 2023 10:59 pm

Ben Zussman

Reminds one of Fabrizio Quattrocchi

Rafiki
Rafiki
December 16, 2023 11:04 pm

Dot
Lee J travelled beyond clarification. His cross-examination of Wilkinson opened up a new line of argument that her investigation was careless. Here, this waa damaging to Higgins, rather than to Lehrmann, but it undermined the quality of the Project episode that defamed Lehrmann.

duncanm
duncanm
December 16, 2023 11:09 pm

Muddy
Dec 16, 2023 10:57 PM
Whoa!
I don’t want to step on Tom’s toes, but The Week in Pictures has a stunning visual at the end.

https://www.instagram.com/girlsdefense/

Dot
Dot
December 16, 2023 11:12 pm

It’s funny.

Wilkinson was evasive. The judge put her on the spot, so he’s a bit of a bastard, even though he also throughout the trial excused her for Chrysanthou, which he remarked that he’d been in a similar situation of a witness trying to volunteer unwanted evidence.

Reasonable people may conclude the problem is Lisa herself.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 16, 2023 11:25 pm

John Mearsheimer: There is no two-state solution

I find him unconvincing. He isn’t prepared to admit that Israel is acting well within its rights and he unrealistically diminishes the various threats that Israel faces; in fact, Israel has the military power which he extolls (but dislikes) entirely because they are aware of such threats and have sought to be ready for them. I don’t disagree with his view of a Greater Israel, which I too think may well eventuate, but he is unable to see that Palestinian ‘Provinces’ (as I envision them) within this Greater Israel would develop, rather than Israel becoming simply an ‘Apartheid State’; which is relying on tired old memes and tropes. A more positive vision is needed. A Greater Israel could become an economic powerhouse within the Middle East, thus a rising tide floating all boats. Israel has already shown that it can work democratically with and for the benefit of the Arab populations it inherited from 1948.

C.L.
C.L.
December 16, 2023 11:31 pm
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 16, 2023 11:36 pm

Anyway, just popped in and out again now. Busy day tomorrow.

No-one has a crystal ball on real politik. Everyone is best-guessing.

C.L.
C.L.
December 16, 2023 11:36 pm

John Mearsheimer: There is no two-state solution

Correct.

Zippster
Zippster
December 16, 2023 11:39 pm
Steve trickler
Steve trickler
December 17, 2023 12:33 am

She is drop dead gorgeous!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUABDC1B1_s

Johnny Rotten
December 17, 2023 1:24 am

Steve trickler
Dec 17, 2023 12:33 AM
She is drop dead gorgeous!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUABDC1B1_s

This video is no longer available…………………………………….

Katzenjammer
Katzenjammer
December 17, 2023 2:05 am
Bespoke
Bespoke
December 17, 2023 2:24 am

Harlequin Decline
Dec 16, 2023 10:49 PM
Bespoke, just posted on the other thread. Seems to have gone into moderation for some reason.

Maybe because it has been posted already.
Try changing some words.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
December 17, 2023 3:16 am

Johnny Rotten
Dec 17, 2023 1:24 AM

It’s hard to keep up with this copyright sh*t!

W*nkers!

Tom
Tom
December 17, 2023 4:00 am
John H.
John H.
December 17, 2023 4:15 am

Who was Population Y? [expert interviews]

I thought this mystery had died away. It relates to a genetic linkage in South America to Australian aborigine and Asian populations.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
December 17, 2023 4:30 am

Thanks Tom.

rosie
rosie
December 17, 2023 4:32 am
Barking Toad
Barking Toad
December 17, 2023 5:41 am

WIP

So much mirth – where do you start?

-Beatles
– Jabba
– Viking Cruise
– Dementia Joe (again and again)
– “I Am Death”

If only there was a Lisa version.

Thanks Tom.

Johnny Rotten
December 17, 2023 5:47 am

Steve trickler
Dec 17, 2023 3:16 AM
Johnny Rotten
Dec 17, 2023 1:24 AM

It’s hard to keep up with this copyright sh*t!

W*nkers!

LOL. At least you tried. 10 Up thumbs.

Johnny Rotten
December 17, 2023 6:07 am

From Tom’s ‘The Week in Pictures’ –

“Ours may become the first Civilisation destroyed, not by the power of our enemies, but by the ignorance of our Teachers and the dangerous nonsense they are teaching our Children. In an age of artificial intelligence they are teaching artificial stupidity.

– Thomas Sowell

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Sowell

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 17, 2023 6:09 am

Sad that AC/DC lost their drummer overnight.

AC/DC drummer Colin Burgess dies aged 77 (16 Dec)

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
December 17, 2023 6:12 am

Another one bites the dust.

MatrixTransform
December 17, 2023 6:46 am
duncanm
duncanm
December 17, 2023 8:05 am

Johnny Rotten
Dec 17, 2023 6:07 AM

reminds me of another I saw recently.
We used to think stupidity was due to lack of knowledge.. but now we have the entire human knowledge available readily online, and stupidity is at even greater heights

(or similar)

MatrixTransform
December 17, 2023 8:06 am

Update on the Old Man lost in the NSW health system.

Turns out he had a bit of heart attack in Deniliquin and got given some meds. As far as we can tell he then proceeded to drive himself to Wagga while having a series of micro stokes along the way.

The chopper then got him St Vinnies in Sydney where he’s at least stable. Enough to maybe get him back to Wagga tomorrow.

We caught up with brother and cousins last night in Darlinghurst and after a whole lot of reeling and coping, the work of working out what to do next. A few beers and pizza and all we could do was laugh at the absurdity of it all.

Daaahlinghurst is run by the queer mafia but what stood out most was the packs of big middle aged women in flouro taffeta. That was weird.

By chance, sticking with the Medea/ Jason theme, we are staying at a joint called Medusa. Centre of the wall in the lounge is a massive repro of Caravaggio’s decapitated gorgon done in a likeness of the proprietor and the entry foyer is baby pink with a deer antler chandelier. Wes Anderson eat yr heart out.

Of to visit the old bloke soon. We’ll see how he’s doing today

Cassie of Sydney
December 17, 2023 8:12 am

The West’s obsession with human rights is destroying it.

Karl Popper’s thesis that “unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance” is true. The West, in the name of human rights, is now not only tolerating but also encouraging and celebrating the intolerant, the obscene, the murderous, the dangerous, the sinister, the menacing and the threatening.

Johnny Rotten
December 17, 2023 8:14 am

MatrixTransform
Dec 17, 2023 6:46 AM
For Zippster.

AI finds a way to do math faster

As it’s Matrix Multiplication, you should be able to do it with yer’ eyes closed. LOL.

Winston Smith
December 17, 2023 8:14 am

Sancho:

Why do you expect an insurer to pay 2.5 times, or even 6 times the contracted value?

Are you stupid? Go back and read and comprehend what I wrote.
I wanted the contracted value to reflect some of the replacement costs, but it wasn’t allowed.
Stop being so quick to piss on people and do a bit of thinking before you jump to conclusions about fraudulent claims.

calli
calli
December 17, 2023 8:15 am

If he’s in St Vincent’s, he’s in a good place. All the best, Matrix.

shatterzzz
December 17, 2023 8:18 am

Knickerless , the real story …!

https://ibb.co/jksPgmJ

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