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The pilot’s jetty, Le Havre, Camille Pissarro, 1903

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vr
vr
December 18, 2023 8:25 pm

Another Italy question for the well-travelled cats.

I am trying to decide on accomodation in Rome and the choice is between staying in Trastevere or Centro Storico. Do you have a preferance?

I think it was Rosie who mentioned Trastevere the other day.

Thanks again.

miltonf
miltonf
December 18, 2023 8:26 pm

John H before the internet, the dinosaur meja was one’s only source of news. We used to get the Guardian Weekly printed on tissue paper! Yes I know.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 18, 2023 8:26 pm

feelthebern
Dec 18, 2023 7:02 PM
Amazing how cocaine hasn’t been raised by anyone covering the case.

Neither of the protagonists, nor any of the media, wish to show hmmm, undue, familiarity with the subject?

Bespoke
Bespoke
December 18, 2023 8:26 pm

Roger, my dad and step mum are to old and sick to emigrate. They carry on with resilience.

Alamak!
December 18, 2023 8:27 pm

and you’re just another passive-aggressive fool who’s deluding themselves that you have special insight and the correct dosage of proper-think

look at you here now complaining about insults while at the same time pretending your own limp-dicked slaps are anything but

bit of a hypocrite

Your insights are priceless and insults worth re-gifting to the few haters I have.

Like I said, the mean MT is the real MT – don’t trust any other …

/MT2MEAN2ME

Mark Bolton
Mark Bolton
December 18, 2023 8:28 pm

@Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

I was a bit horrified and chastising about firearms discipline … I readily admit i have no direct experience… perhaps i got a bit ahead of my skis Mate… ? No harm or insult intended ..

I was just passing on what little training I have had ..

Roger
Roger
December 18, 2023 8:30 pm

Though I try my best to avoid generalisations, I fear that conservatives place far too much reliance on the magical emergence of a saviour…

Muddy, I’d suggest that conservatives don’t realise the need for a berserker until it’s too late. They maintain faith in the ability of the system to correct itself…to a fault.

Delta A
Delta A
December 18, 2023 8:32 pm

Whoops! Sorry for shouting.

Calli, no-one could blame you for that.

I have grandies same age as some of yours. I flinch to think how I would fare with what you have endured.

How have your grand children coped? Are they aware that the world has gone cruel and crazy and that they, innocent babes, have lost some of the security that they have always, rightfully, enjoyed?

Please give them special hugs and kisses when next you see them. I’m not the only Cat who wishes them all the very best.

Alamak!
December 18, 2023 8:32 pm

Neither of the protagonists, nor any of the media, wish to show hmmm, undue, familiarity with the subject?

Add use of narcotics to the list of things people know about but don’t want to discuss

– taking the party back to PH after hours
– shagging on the ministers couch (seems to be a rite of passage for staffers)
– enjoying some marching powder en suite
– late night tours of ministerial offices to impress the juniors
– borrowing some clothes to make the walk of shame less shaming next day

Roger
Roger
December 18, 2023 8:34 pm

Roger, my dad and step mum are to old and sick to emigrate. They carry on with resilience.

I think that’s partly why my Saffie friend and his parents stay, for now at least.

For the sake of those who can’t emigrate. So things don’t fall apart entirely.

His father is a prominent lawyer.

Mark Bolton
Mark Bolton
December 18, 2023 8:35 pm

! as to Narcotics… ?

Just dont …

cohenite
December 18, 2023 8:35 pm

Muddy
Dec 18, 2023 8:24 PM

Trump did 2 things: revealed the utter corruption and treason of the swamp; but also the gutlessness and capitulation of conservatism. There is no happy ending for this fairy tale. Trump was not a catalyst but the describer of a bleak dystopia with bastards like king chuck, klaus fat cheeks and jowls, lurch kerry and obama in charge.

Alamak!
December 18, 2023 8:36 pm

! as to Narcotics… ?

Just dont …

words from the wise?

John H.
John H.
December 18, 2023 8:37 pm

Roger
Dec 18, 2023 8:30 PM
Though I try my best to avoid generalisations, I fear that conservatives place far too much reliance on the magical emergence of a saviour…

Muddy, I’d suggest that conservatives don’t realise the need for a berserker until it’s too late. They maintain faith in the ability of the system to correct itself…to a fault.

Einstein
“How an intelligent man can subscribe to a party I find a complete mystery.”
AND
“You can never solve a problem on the level on which it was created.”

Robert Sewell
December 18, 2023 8:39 pm

Barking Toad

Dec 18, 2023 6:45 PM
Disappointed that Justice Lee stopped the livestream of the Davis examination.
I accept she’s mentally fragile but why would the presence of a livefeed worry her if she was prepared to give evidence?
I was looking forward to her testimony as she had contemporaneous notes of what went on in meetings and phone calls with Knickerless something sans-cottontails didn’t have.

I wonder if a bloke would get away with the bullshit tearies the girls are bunging on?

Mark Bolton
Mark Bolton
December 18, 2023 8:41 pm

a bleak but accurate summary …If the Orange Oaf at least had the guts to shoulder with Julian Assange I might have a hint of passion ..but he didnt and he wears no Laurels for me ..

Roger
Roger
December 18, 2023 8:43 pm

“How an intelligent man can subscribe to a party I find a complete mystery.”

Conservatism is not a party, it’s an outlook.

Probably the natural one for humankind.

Cf. Conquest, “everyone is conservative about what he knows best.”

And contrary to the liberal critique, it doesn’t preclude progress; it merely asks that what is purported to be progress be tested against what is known by exprerience to be trustworthy and thereby reliable.

Robert Sewell
December 18, 2023 8:45 pm

Mark Bolton:
You’ve been warned before about profligate usage of elipses/elipsi?
9 in your last post.
This behaviour will not be tolerated.
We have a world wide shortage of ellipses/elipsi, continued abuse of this nature will see you force fed Pizza with those little black fishie things.
…and pineapple.

Mark Bolton
Mark Bolton
December 18, 2023 8:46 pm

! as to Narcotics… ?

Just dont …

words from the wise?..

Most definitely !! A most beloved relative (well ticked tradie …good wife, good home a bright future ) but has lost everything … including his teeth …

I am never pretending to be wise, but I do know what a disaster looks like … It doesn’t take very much discernment ..

miltonf
miltonf
December 18, 2023 8:47 pm

It’s interesting that after Trump’s lifting up the corrugated iron to expose the vermin, people the current king, whom I once regarded as an amiable eccentric, turns out to be very dangerous and a nasty piece of work.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
December 18, 2023 8:48 pm

First!!!

What?

Robert Sewell
December 18, 2023 8:50 pm

feelthebern

Dec 18, 2023 7:02 PM
Amazing how cocaine hasn’t been raised by anyone covering the case.

Mandatory drug testing for all Parliamentarians and staff would help us believe PH isn’t a den of drug abusing sociopaths.
Actually having them for all Pubic Serpents would be a Good Thing.
Make them live up to the standards they demand of us.

Mark Bolton
Mark Bolton
December 18, 2023 8:50 pm

@ Robert Sewell

I punctuate using … more as pausing … It shouldn’t make my perspective unintelligible. It is a habit I got into script writing. Sorry if it bothers you ..

Muddy
Muddy
December 18, 2023 8:50 pm

cohenite
Dec 18, 2023 8:35 PM
… the gutlessness and capitulation of conservatism.

I’m still undecided if the motivation for passivity (submission?) is cowardice or an excess of ego/pride/hubris leading to amygdalic freeze. I lean toward the latter without any rational reason to do so.

(As a history nerd, one of my side projects is the compilation of photographs of the roughly 500 young men who died in a particular WWII campaign. While editing the same (the quality varies after 80+ years), I often ask myself what they would think of us, and me, now. Would they even nod in our direction? Would we deserve their acknowledgement? Am I just as morally flaccid as those I decry?).

John H.
John H.
December 18, 2023 8:50 pm

miltonf
Dec 18, 2023 8:26 PM
John H before the internet, the dinosaur meja was one’s only source of news. We used to get the Guardian Weekly printed on tissue paper! Yes I know.

Most current news and events are trivial. A broader approach is needed which is why I lament the decline of the humanities. A habit of a broad based reading in the humanities helps identify media distortions. Before the internet I purchased books through Academic Remainders in Canberra. Such a regular customer they categorised me as a librarian. I don’t do that anymore but last night I read three recent genetic studies pertaining to Australian aborigines. Couldn’t understand slabs of the text. The results point to a founding population at 32-50ky rather than the 65ky claimed by activists. However like everyone else I am intrigued by the mystery of Population Y being present here and in South America.

Roger
Roger
December 18, 2023 8:52 pm

@ 8:43pm

Would my down ticker care to propose a counter-argument?

Please do.

In the meantime…

Good night!

Mark Bolton
Mark Bolton
December 18, 2023 8:59 pm

@Muddy Oh Brother what a great question … !! In Vietnam the combatant now… as Old Men say “let the Dead lie in Peace”

Also Old Mate Tom said ..

“Man has no property in man; neither has any generation a property in the generations which are to follow.”

I believe He had the wider view …

local oaf
December 18, 2023 9:01 pm

miltonf
Dec 18, 2023 8:47 PM

It’s interesting that after Trump’s lifting up the corrugated iron to expose the vermin, people the current king, whom I once regarded as an amiable eccentric, turns out to be very dangerous and a nasty piece of work.

I remember 30+ years ago when Roy and HG used to mockingly call him the royal loon, I thought they were a bit harsh and he was just a harmless hippie.

Horrified at what’s been revealed these days under the royal carpet.

Eyrie
Eyrie
December 18, 2023 9:02 pm

I’ve stated previously that I believe Trump is not a warrior king, but a Berserker, in the Scandinavian mythic sense (though it turns out I may be misunderstanding the meaning of ‘Berserker’). I see the former POTUS as one who holds the enemy hordes at bay at a strategic position – a bridge or ravine in the literal sense – thus providing time for the hard-pressed survivors to catch their breath, gather their wits, and seek an alternate plan for survival. This ‘holding back the tide’ is temporary, and the Berserker generally pays with his life, but his intentional sacrifice allows a few of his fellows to escape and live another day.

Horatius at the bridge.

Alternatively: The Last Knight of Christendom, Don John of America takes his weapons from the Wall.

Bespoke
Bespoke
December 18, 2023 9:03 pm

I’m not wedded to his analysis about anything but if even he’s sounding this alarm you have a problem.

Sure!

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
December 18, 2023 9:03 pm

Calli, I should have given it some italicization to frenchify the clishay, but with in-jokes, puns and dad humour, you’ve got to drop it cold.
ie the rigger
One dad joke which has become a family in-joke is, when someone labours an international point of contention, or condescends to explain foreigners’ parts, to give them a flat
“Je ne say quoi”, so that it echoes a sarky “you don’t say so”. Heaps of fun, especially for baiting the unititiated.

John H.
John H.
December 18, 2023 9:06 pm

Roger
Dec 18, 2023 8:43 PM
“How an intelligent man can subscribe to a party I find a complete mystery.”

Conservatism is not a party, it’s an outlook.

Yet so many conservatives are looking for a party to affiliate with and there are political parties which identify as being conservative.

Mark Bolton
Mark Bolton
December 18, 2023 9:06 pm

@local oaf

Roy and HG …. magic …

Robert Sewell
December 18, 2023 9:10 pm

Mark Bolton
Dec 18, 2023 8:50 PM
@ Robert Sewell

I punctuate using … more as pausing … It shouldn’t make my perspective unintelligible. It is a habit I got into script writing. Sorry if it bothers you ..

I’m going to add fetta cheese to that pizza, if you keep it up sunshine.

Mark Bolton
Mark Bolton
December 18, 2023 9:14 pm

@Robert Sewell

Oh now you got me by the goolies … 😉 Oh shit that was three . AAAHHH …..

MatrixTransform
December 18, 2023 9:16 pm

/MT2MEAN2ME

are you totally sure you aren’t JC?

Robert Sewell
December 18, 2023 9:16 pm

Mark:
You are also in danger of finding out how many pineapple rings can be superglued to your willie.

rosie
rosie
December 18, 2023 9:18 pm

My preference is Trastevere but it can be noisy at night near the river.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
December 18, 2023 9:19 pm

The Chief of the IDF accepting responsibility for the deaths of the three. Can you imagine our Nancy’s doing that.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 18, 2023 9:20 pm

Muddy

(As a history nerd, one of my side projects is the compilation of photographs of the roughly 500 young men who died in a particular WWII campaign. While editing the same (the quality varies after 80+ years),

Australians, I assume?

I also assume that you have checked the Roll of Honour at the AWM. For some 15 or more years, the Memorial has been engaged in a project to put faces to names of those on the Roll of Honour. It has probably been easier for the Second and later wars than for the First World War.

If you find photos among your 500, where there is no associated photo already on the Roll of Honour, contact the Research Centre. Staff there will copy the photo and return the original to you (or add it to the Collections Database if you no longer need it).

The First World War is a problem, as many photos, if they ever existed, have been lost over time. I found a photo in one of my two great-uncles who died during the war (the one killed at Pozieres), but could not find a photo of the one who died of disease in October 1918. A fellow volunteer was reduced to poring over unit and sub-unit group photos in the hope of finding a usable image of men he had never met, and had no connection with, in the hope of linking names and faces.

Good luck with your project.

Muddy
Muddy
December 18, 2023 9:21 pm

From Dover’s Telegraph link above:

But if he thinks a killing rage will rectify matters…

Emotive language like this is used for a purpose: To negate the measurable statistics. Assuming the numbers for Gazan dead are roughly correct (*hmmm*) and subtracting at least one third for h@m@s and associated combatants, the civilian casualty toll appears comparatively mild, given the population density of the urban battlefield (which h@m@s designated as a battlefield, by the way). How does it compare with the Rwandan slaughter, for example?

His actions are radicalising Muslim youth across the globe.

This bulltish about ‘radicalising’ is merely a means of transferring the responsibility from the aggressor to the victim.

Katzenjammer
Katzenjammer
December 18, 2023 9:21 pm

But at the same time, we have seen cases in that area where Hamas have used people in civilian clothes and white flags to lure soldiers into ambushes. It’s an impossible situation

That sounds like one of the possibilities to assess in one second in my invented scenario.

Alamak!
December 18, 2023 9:21 pm

/MT2MEAN2ME

are you totally sure you aren’t JC?

You miss JC – admit it. Co-dependence can be a beautiful thing.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 18, 2023 9:22 pm

Roger
Dec 18, 2023 8:52 PM
@ 8:43pm

Would my down ticker care to propose a counter-argument?

As someone mentioned upthread, that should be down dicker. The individuals concerned all seem to have drooping, flaccid, members.

Mark Bolton
Mark Bolton
December 18, 2023 9:23 pm

@Robert Sewell

a fleeting jest ends with the ~bboom tish~ but your mention of adhesives and tropical fruit. one elepise you must note . In deference to your taste. You interest me strangely 🙂

cohenite
December 18, 2023 9:25 pm

His actions are radicalising Muslim youth across the globe.

This bulltish about ‘radicalising’ is merely a means of transferring the responsibility from the aggressor to the victim.

Correct. Islam needs no eternal motivations: it’s primary motive is to conquer EVERY other political system. End of fuking story.

Katzenjammer
Katzenjammer
December 18, 2023 9:26 pm

Conservatism is not a party, it’s an outlook.
Probably the natural one for humankind.

It’s ordinary life, ordinary biology, ordinary virtues, ordinary families. It’s the traditions that have sustained us for yonks. We don’t hold street protests for ordinary stuff that’s not exciting or revolutionary.

But it looks like we need to before it’s gone.

vr
vr
December 18, 2023 9:28 pm

Thanks, Rosie.

Muddy
Muddy
December 18, 2023 9:29 pm

Boambee John.

Thanks for the best wishes.
Yes, Australians of a particular New Guinea campaign in WWII. I have the list and can access photos of perhaps 60% of them via the National Archives’ online database.

It’s not a commercially viable project, but designed to be a reference guide for libraries and similar institutions. No glamour or fame will result, but I feel it my duty to reveal at least some of the names etched in stone.

MatrixTransform
December 18, 2023 9:29 pm

a beautiful thing

and medusa looks at herself in a mirror

Mark Bolton
Mark Bolton
December 18, 2023 9:33 pm

@Katzenjammer

My Conservative outlook is derived from a working class back ground from a mining town …

I have been roundly harangued .. called a Leftie Shop Steward pest just because I did my best to make sure the Men working on my Crew got home safe …

My Dad was the Bloke that had to knock on the door of a home , midday to tell a wife she was now a widow …

OK I am a Conservative …

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
December 18, 2023 9:34 pm

On show trials for showbiz types-
It looks like everyone loves televised coverage of steamy tabloid intrigue, so it’s now become par for the coarse. There’s only room at the legal affairs header for one trial of the century at a time, abit like there can only be one war at a time, so Gaza has eclipsed Donbass, and Eritrea etc are nowhere on the radar.
How quickly has it happened, and how insiduously has it become a source of news for news services which should otherwise have sorted the wheat from the chaff, or current affairs? During the persecution of Cardinal Pell there was much hay made of an episode where the cardinal gave a flat answer to a sensitive question about at alleged incident deep in the past- although i don’t trust me recollection, i think it was a historical complaint about a lay member who was outside of the then-priests’ territory anyway, and he said something like “it was of no particular concern to me”. The ABC had a film unit parked with a roomful of supporters of “Chocolate Drops” J, watching live but ex-camera, who duly gasped and muttered, though those with an ear for theatre would have heard the telling beat before the hostile crowd twigged just how much they could “lean in” to the outrage.
Their ABC made much hay of those moments, leading news bulletins for a week with the playback, and keeping the tapes warm for the postmortem years later also.
Has there been any instant replay moments of the Toad of Ten and Hoover Hoggins trial? I don’t watch TV- but I imagine that without out and out proudly partisan packaging, there have been many, but the conservatives have let them pass, being both gentlemen and pussies.
*Though mlearnedfriend missed a golden- if unproffessional- chance to cement himself in small screen fame for a generation-
“Please don’t make me sound like a cheap, tabloid journalist, Mr Richardson.”
Richardson glances to camera, chin down eyebrow up-
“Mizz Wilkinson, I’m afraid that I really cannot offer you any assistance with that problem…”

John H.
John H.
December 18, 2023 9:38 pm

Katzenjammer
Dec 18, 2023 9:26 PM
Conservatism is not a party, it’s an outlook.
Probably the natural one for humankind.

It’s ordinary life, ordinary biology, ordinary virtues, ordinary families. It’s the traditions that have sustained us for yonks. We don’t hold street protests for ordinary stuff that’s not exciting or revolutionary.

But it looks like we need to before it’s gone.

“The reasonable man adapts himself to the world and the unreasonable man adapts the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.”

GB Shaw.

“Morals were restrictive, but they were grounded on human experience down through the centuries. Some morals tended to keep people slaves in factories, in churches and true to the State. Other morals simply made good sense. It was like a garden filled with poisoned fruit and good fruit. You had to know which to pick and eat, which to leave alone.”

Bukowski

Blanket assertions like yours leave me cold, little better than motherhood statements. The goal is know when and what to change, not just assert how good tradition is.

Mark Bolton
Mark Bolton
December 18, 2023 9:39 pm

@ Katzenjammer ..

Yeah that came across as abrasive and was .. but you are right in what you say . Conservatism is a natural state of being. But I am thinking of dead men now…

I wont elaborate because you have already spoken very well .

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 18, 2023 9:45 pm

From the Oz.

Damon
24 minutes ago
In between this latest episode at a Western Sydney mosque calling for a ‘final solution’ for the Jews snd Leftist extremists harassing the Jewish families of the victims of the October 7 massacre, and of course the chanting of ‘Gas the Jews’ on the steps of the Opera House, I’m just wondering exactly when the ‘hate speech’ line is crossed? I mean, it’s actually illegal in Victoria to make a hand gesture referencing Nazism, but apparently you can pretty well say what you like against Israel and there are NO consequences whatsoever.

Cassie of Sydney
December 18, 2023 9:46 pm

“His actions are radicalising Muslim youth across the globe.”

Really? Perhaps my memory is faulty, but I recall how, well before any Israeli “actions”, Muslim youth and radical leftists took to the streets of cities across the globe, particularly in the West where we’ve indulged this muck for too long, to celebrate the rape and slaughter of Jews on 7 October 2023. In fact I recall seeing footage taken on Sunday night 8 October 2023 of young Sydney Muslims and a cleric congregating on the streets of a Sydney suburb called Lakemba where they unapologetically celebrated the events of 7 October. They didn’t even try to hide their “elation”. I shouldn’t need to remind anyone here that this was well before any Israeli “actions”, in fact the only actions thus far had been done by Hamas on Saturday 7 October 2023 when they raped and butchered men, women and children across southern Israel and took over 230 hostages into Gaza, most of whom are now DEAD.

And further to “actions”, I also recall how on Monday night 9 October 2023 I unwittingly stumbled on a rather horrific scene at Sydney’s Town Hall, a scene which has damaged me, all because I made the mistake of walking to Woolworths at Town Hall to buy some groceries, something I regularly do, but that late afternoon I witnessed Palestinian and leftist Nazis gathered on a Sydney CBD street to celebrate the “actions’ of Hamas on 7 October 2023, this was weeks before any “actions” by Israel. And when I hurriedly left that scene that day, in tears and shaking, I got home to read that the NSWaffen Police has issued a directive to Sydney’s Jews to stay away from the Sydney CBD, in effect rendering the CBD “Judenfrei”. And of course, I don’t need to remind anyone here but we know what happened an hour or so later, when the fevered and frothing Palestinian and leftist Nazis were provided with a personal escort by the NSWaffen Police all the way down to the Sydney Opera House where they screamed, screeched and shouted “gas the Jews”.

ALL OF THIS WAS BEFORE ISRAEL TOOK ANY ACTIONS.

BY THE WAY, WHERE ARE THE HOSTAGES?

Israel and Jews are damned if we do and we’re damned if we don’t.

SO I SAY, DAMN THEM.

Rant over, and yes, I’m angry.

Crossie
Crossie
December 18, 2023 9:46 pm

Frank
Dec 18, 2023 7:27 PM
Does he ever wonder how he got the Albosleazy nickname?

How so, a bit handsy or somethng?

Frank, if you are still here, some time ago Albo was seen leaving a Thai massage parlour.

The Beer whisperer
The Beer whisperer
December 18, 2023 9:46 pm

Trump was not a catalyst but the describer of a bleak dystopia with bastards like king chuck, klaus fat cheeks and jowls, lurch kerry and obama in charge.

My biggest criticism of Trump is that he left his run too late. As if the Clintons weren’t enough to step in.

Mark Bolton
Mark Bolton
December 18, 2023 9:52 pm

H.

I wont pretend I have the education or intellectual heft to pick up on this discussion .. So may I just politely interject … ? A conservative isnt for mindless Stasis.. And you made the same point yourself Good Sir … And were correct … a Conservative just wants things we value to continue to be prominent … to continue to be valued . And if Change is required to prevent such aspirations of normal working folk to just get one with our Lives as we Love them.. Fine ..

I really think You and Old Mate Katzenjammer are picking on the same end of the bone …

Respect to Both ..

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 18, 2023 9:56 pm

H B Bear

Dec 18, 2023 6:31 PM

If you’re getting called as a witness and have to go into the CBD why not meet someone for lunch and make a day of it?

Yeah, maybe.
Probably best to leave the cork in the Terra Rossa Cabernet until after “Nothing further, Yer Onner.”

Katzenjammer
Katzenjammer
December 18, 2023 10:05 pm

The Chief of the IDF accepting responsibility for the deaths of the three. Can you imagine our Nancy’s doing that.

It demonstrates understanding of troops acting under pressure. Remember Sharon taking responsibility for the Sabra and Shatila massacre. This is what honour looks like.

Once upon a time accepting responsibility meant resigning.

Continuity of strategy and management is important right now. Enquiries, resignations and political trade offs will come later.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 18, 2023 10:05 pm

And when I hurriedly left that scene that day, in tears and shaking, I got home to read that the NSWaffen Police has issued a directive to Sydney’s Jews to stay away from the Sydney CBD, in effect rendering the CBD “Judenfrei

Nothing to do with appeasing certain electorates in Western Sydney? Lindt Cafe, anyone?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 18, 2023 10:07 pm

Hairy looking at Argentinian hotels as I read this, Bons. We’ll be setting out late Feb for our Amazon cruise

Is this a cruise on the Amazon River?
Or a cruise where the clientele are all Amazons?

Cassie of Sydney
December 18, 2023 10:11 pm

Let me remind people here that we dealing with a mindset that took the bodies of dead Jews back into Gaza to further defile.

132andBush
132andBush
December 18, 2023 10:12 pm

Dover,
In your world does Israel get a guernsey?

MatrixTransform
December 18, 2023 10:13 pm

damned if we do and we’re damned if we don’t

the post-modern malaise

Katzenjammer
Katzenjammer
December 18, 2023 10:20 pm

Blanket assertions like yours leave me cold, little better than motherhood statements. The goal is know when and what to change, not just assert how good tradition is.

John Howard said (I think) “a conservative is someone who doesn’t think his grandparents were less moral than himself”. There’s a lot of space in that for movement and improvement. Respect for traditions doesn’t entail copy the past.

Progressivism is tyrannical, with aims to demolish the past as an evil error and enforce their glorious future utopia. It’s an apocalyptic cult.

Conservative/progressive isn’t necessarily congruent with right/left.

MatrixTransform
December 18, 2023 10:26 pm

Progressivism is tyrannical, with aims to demolish the past as an evil error and enforce their glorious future utopia

now we’re getting somewhere

history rhymes

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 18, 2023 10:28 pm

H B Bear

Dec 18, 2023 6:31 PM

If you’re getting called as a witness and have to go into the CBD why not meet someone for lunch and make a day of it?

In some court proceedings, a little tipple over lunch is the least of your worries.
An acquaintance was a witness in divorce proceedings in the late 80’s between a certain mop-top enfant terrible artist and his estranged bride.
When it came time for Brett (oops, I named him) to take the stand, he was nowhere to be found. This chap was despatched to find him and bring him to court. His lawyers didn’t want to be in tye search party. If they found him shooting up in the toilet they would be faced with either knowingly put a juiced up client on the stand or having to admit that their client was suddenly indisposed and unable to give evidence.

Katzenjammer
Katzenjammer
December 18, 2023 10:37 pm

John Howard said (I think) “a conservative is someone who doesn’t think his grandparents were less moral than himself”. There’s a lot of space in that for movement and improvement. Respect for traditions doesn’t entail copy the past.

I’ve wondered if that’s related to the commandment – “Honour your father and your mother”. You’re a custodian of your past civilisation. Honour that and it will firmly last long. It’s one of the rare two positive commandments among the majority negatives – don’t do this or that – and the only one promising an continuing outcome.

cohenite
December 18, 2023 10:47 pm

Second series of Reacher shows some promise. Alan Ritchson who plays Reacher has put on about 20kgs of muscle since series one and looks like Arnie on steroids.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
December 18, 2023 11:09 pm

Careful of your muscle fetish, Cohen… remember if there’s silicone hooters on it, it’s probably a bloke.
But by the bye, let me know if cuties like Rosamund Pike or Cobie SSsssmmmmoulders pop up on the small screen version.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 18, 2023 11:14 pm

In some court proceedings, a little tipple over lunch is the least of your worries.

Isn’t it a good idea for the judge to be sober?

The Beer whisperer
The Beer whisperer
December 18, 2023 11:28 pm

Alan Ritchson who plays Reacher has put on about 20kgs of muscle since series one and looks like Arnie on steroids.

Handy for chucking idiots out of windows. I love the casual justice from a bloke with morals and ethics, but spots arseholes on sight and dispatches accordingly.

And that’s not even when he’s angry.

Mark Bolton
Mark Bolton
December 18, 2023 11:50 pm

And so here we all are ? … the last remaining vanguard of Conservatism … fending off the Leftie onslaught … !!! To the battlements we …Happy Few … !! Not including of course those of Us that choose to be miserable … and those that are still fishing for their dentures…

Yes Catalaxy was once a place of robust and intelligent conjecture … All good things must pass .

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
December 18, 2023 11:57 pm
Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 19, 2023 12:32 am

Second series of Reacher shows some promise. Alan Ritchson who plays Reacher has put on about 20kgs of muscle since series one and looks like Arnie on steroids.

Ritchson’s a cute owl then.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
December 19, 2023 12:49 am

Brain dead channel surfing- auction special for Freddie Mercury’s personal stuff.
Handwritten lyrics for Bohemian Rhapsody, on a haulage co pad, light and breezy pencil freehand, obviously winging it for a first draught, but instantly recognisable- went for $1.1M pounds.
Ok fair enough, there’s only one of them, headliner song, physical link to the hand and brain of a unique creative spirit. It’s like one of Da Vinci’s sketches.
Next item- some forgettable snake bracelet that Freddie wore in the vid, pre sale estimate $40K- knocked out at $550 000 pounds. Fully half the price of the o.g. lyrics, for some camden markets costume jewellry- how the hell would you pay that much?
Then I noticed the crowd in the sotheby’s room- ninety percent of them were holding their phones up, getting video… of the auction of the item from the video. Instead of, you know, living in the moment, gathering their thoughts.
That’s how important the shiny screen is to our world at the moment. More important than transcendent music and words.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
December 19, 2023 1:02 am
Steve trickler
Steve trickler
December 19, 2023 1:22 am

Cash:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgWwXA9xp5g“>Cash 2.0 Great Dane-deer at The Grove 2023 (1 of 4)

shatterzzz
December 19, 2023 2:57 am

I’m not wedded to his analysis about anything but if even he’s sounding this alarm you have a problem.

These so-called “expert”/”professional” opinions with regard to the Israeli answer to October 7 all come down to the same answers … Appeasement/ negotiate/ be nice to terrorists …… they’ve all, conveniently, forgotten the pre BAT FLU “official” rule .. NEVER NEGOTIATE WITH TERRRORISTS ……..!

shatterzzz
December 19, 2023 3:01 am

His actions are radicalising Muslim youth across the globe.

The only requirement needed to “radicalize” musso youth is numbers .. gutless in minority .. “radicalized in majority ……..!

shatterzzz
December 19, 2023 3:11 am

Aaaaaaaagh! .. the joys of a sleepless night … duuuuuuuuh! .. no real issues just not sleepy .. LOL!

If you enjoyed “Lock Stock & Two Smoking Barrels/ Fargo then this 8 episode offering from the BBC is a delight in gangster black comedy/drama .. BOAT STORY …
Tho being BBC no idea where it can be found apart from downloading …….
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt23729238/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_8_nm_0_q_boat%2520story

shatterzzz
December 19, 2023 3:32 am

How good is this for a lounge! .. I wantz one .. LOL!
https://ibb.co/L9hsrf8

Tom
Tom
December 19, 2023 4:00 am
Tom
Tom
December 19, 2023 4:01 am
John H.
John H.
December 19, 2023 4:01 am

John Howard said (I think) “a conservative is someone who doesn’t think his grandparents were less moral than himself”.

There is no objective means to measure a generation’s morality. Religions can’t even provide that because over the centuries religions change position on a range of issues. It is not a matter of determining who is better it is a matter of addressing each particular value and tradition. Morals are at least in part social products. We can have foundational issues but even there it gets mirky with the details. For example, the sanctity of life. How’s that applicable to babies in Gaza?

Progressivism is tyrannical, with aims to demolish the past as an evil error and enforce their glorious future utopia. It’s an apocalyptic cult.

Nut picking. Don’t assume everyone on the left is a progressive. Apocalyptic cult? Hyperbole much? I don’t know a single leftist who believes in Utopia. It is obvious that we are always a work in progress. The recent closest to utopian ideals is Pinker’s better angels concept, vigorously attacked by the left. Anyone who thinks Pinker is a leftist has not read enough of him. He wrote a boring books demolishing a favourite idea of progressives, The Blank Slate. His book, Enlightenment Now, is an apology for capitalism. If anything he leans right but he probably resents political categories.

Whatever, another glorious win on part. Demolished Iceland, destroyed an enemy fleet, and even managed to sink a sub this time. These are the important things in life. Now if only I could find a way to make ANNO a game that doesn’t require so much micro management! However perhaps this will eventually explain Population Y …

https://www.vernamagazine.com/as-early-as-24000-years-ago-individuals-may-have-traveled-across-the-sea-ice-highway-to-reach-north-america/

I’m not buying into the sea ice highway, that’s too extreme. Something else, don’t know what.

Tom
Tom
December 19, 2023 4:02 am
Tom
Tom
December 19, 2023 4:03 am
Tom
Tom
December 19, 2023 4:05 am
Tom
Tom
December 19, 2023 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
December 19, 2023 4:07 am
Tom
Tom
December 19, 2023 4:08 am
Tom
Tom
December 19, 2023 4:09 am
Tom
Tom
December 19, 2023 4:10 am
Bazinga
Bazinga
December 19, 2023 4:11 am

So Higgins and Sharaz moving to France. Will they be reimbursing the taxpayers of their I’ll gotten gains or will the AG/Labor?

Johnny Rotten
December 19, 2023 4:17 am

Many Thanks Tom.

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
December 19, 2023 4:48 am

Im still not seeing the issue with the IDF in Gaza. Dont Hamas want to be martyrs? Arent the IDF making that happen for them? I see it as a win-win.

Johnny Rotten
December 19, 2023 4:57 am

Truth is Tough – The war in Gaza is our war too –

https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2023/12/im-with-you-richard.html

Top Ender
Top Ender
December 19, 2023 5:27 am

What have the French done to us to have these two inflicted on them:

Brittany Higgins and her fiancé David Sharaz have left Australia behind and will start a new life in a small French village.

The couple said an emotional goodbye to Ms Higgins’ mother Kelly and father Matthew, before boarding a flight at Brisbane International Airport on Monday at 11.35pm.

Daily Mail

feelthebern
feelthebern
December 19, 2023 6:07 am

The Boston Globe editorial board has called for more clarity from Harvard over Gay’s plagiarism.
Nothing regarding the anti-Semitism & intimidation on campus.
When you’ve lost the uber left Boston Globe…

shatterzzz
December 19, 2023 6:10 am

So Higgins and Sharaz moving to France. Will they be reimbursing the taxpayers of their I’ll gotten gains or will the AG/Labor?

Reimbursing? .. If it weren’t for the mug taxpayer they’d still be stuck in Oz and, God forbid, having to work ….. LOL!

Dot
Dot
December 19, 2023 6:22 am

hoe_math with another certified hood classic.

Human’s aren’t polyamorous, we can’t chimp out and build chimp world for humans.

(Actually, everyone was wrong – EVERYONE still pays for single mothers and their terrible choices – the infertile, childless couples [straight, gay and everything else], incels, voluntarily celibate, fathers with a wife and 10 kids…it’s a shock that so many still pay into a system they get so very little from.)

feelthebern
feelthebern
December 19, 2023 6:28 am

In the olden days one might say the BoM needs an independent review to see why their forecasting is so bad.
But now a review would have all conclusions being something about climate change & the need for Australia to de-industrialise.
Plus feelz.

Dot
Dot
December 19, 2023 6:28 am

I’m not buying into the sea ice highway, that’s too extreme. Something else, don’t know what.

Maybe it isn’t.

Apparently primates made rafts and floated to the new world, millions of years ago.

This is the current accepted theory. Not a hitherto undiscovered common ape ancestor before a landbridge ceased to exist.

That’s got to be bullshit. If apes could build rafts millions of years ago they should have the Starship Enterprise by now.

Bespoke
Bespoke
December 19, 2023 6:30 am

You left out dead beat dads, Dot.

feelthebern
feelthebern
December 19, 2023 6:32 am

Over the past 3 months:
AUD has been strong;
Oil has cratered.
But check out the price of fuel when you’re filling up.

Where’s Kevin Rudd’s Fuelwatch when you need it?

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
December 19, 2023 6:36 am

IIRC when the Lismore floods happened the meja went apesh!t that Scomos Army didnt send choppers to assist.
Well, Albo, …Where are the helicopters? Where are the helicopters? Where are the helicopters? Those crocs wont get themselves out of those trees!

Dot
Dot
December 19, 2023 6:50 am

You left out dead beat dads, Dot.

Stop the cap.

Dot
Dot
December 19, 2023 6:59 am

Great.

Now you can give money to an un-life-like AI through “her” OnlyFans as well.

Paul Joseph Watson – meet your new girlfriend

Enjoy the decline.

calli
calli
December 19, 2023 7:00 am

Brittany Higgins and her fiancé David Sharaz have left Australia behind and will start a new life in a small French village.

Why Lunas? I can see them in the Dordogne, or even the Riviera. But Lunas? Like moving to Mumbil.

I suppose Brittany going to Brittany was a bridge too far.

Dot
Dot
December 19, 2023 7:03 am

Damn.

Maybe “pay piggies” prove that the fantasy of Chimp World is real.

I don’t think a corollary exists that it leads to society as a going concern.

I need a smoke after I just blew my own mind.

Dot
Dot
December 19, 2023 7:04 am

#illuptickcalli

Please don’t curse Dordogne. I’m fascinated with the place.

Bespoke
Bespoke
December 19, 2023 7:06 am

Err I stopped when Watson promoted facial screem for men.

Dot
Dot
December 19, 2023 7:12 am

He’s a total shill, LOL.

calli
calli
December 19, 2023 7:16 am

We’ll never see that money again. Defrauded the Australian people and got clean away with it.

Nothing remotely like the NDIS scammers though in terms of theft.

People struggling to get by on the OAP must be scratching their heads.

calli
calli
December 19, 2023 7:18 am

It’s such a big girl’s blouse you’ll get a little punish for even mentioning my name. I’m back at school again.

😀

Cassie of Sydney
December 19, 2023 7:22 am

You’ve got to be f*cking kidding me…

Pattern’ rape case lawsuits up to six amid judicial scandal

The Office of the DPP in NSW is prosecuting another man in a sexual assault case brought by the woman at the centre of a judicial scandal that has pitted a District Court judge against the state’s Director of Public Prosecutions.

The new case is the sixth sexual-assault prosecution brought by the NSW Office of the DPP involving the same complainant, which has sparked concern within the judiciary at prosecutors’ alleged failure to rationally interrogate victims’ claims and the inability of juries to know when alleged victims have made multiple allegations against a string of men.

The latest case involving the woman will place further scrutiny on prosecutorial decisions, with the allegation against the accused man levelled at a time when two other men were facing imminent jury trials after the same woman had accused them of rape in identical circumstances.

Both trials resulted in speedy acquittals but both juries were prevented from hearing details of the woman’s other allegations.

The pattern of making very similar allegations sparked extreme concern for District Court judge Robert Newlinds, who questioned whether prosecutors were taking a “lazy and perhaps politically expedient” approach to putting rape cases before juries without properly interrogating the rational basis of the complaint. Judge Newlinds also said accused men could not receive a fair trial when juries were prevented from hearing details of multiple accusations that were bizarrely similar.

The upcoming case, which is at pre-trial stage, will throw the spotlight on a piece of NSW legislation that bars evidence of a complainant’s sexual history from going before a jury, including in cases where repeated sexual assault allegations have been made against multiple men, even when such complaints are proven to be false.

The NSW judiciary is the only one in the country barred by legislation from exercising judicial discretion over such evidence. Law reform commissions at commonwealth and NSW levels have called for the law to be amended, as well as a string of senior judges including justices of the NSW Court of Appeal.

The latest case, which is still before the local court, arises from an allegation that the complainant was sexually assaulted by a man dubbed JM on September 2 last year. The man was charged on April 4 this year, when the woman was preparing to give evidence against two other men in upcoming jury trials.

Three other men the same complainant had accused of sexual assault in 2018 and 2020 pleaded guilty. The woman had made a seventh sexual assault complaint to police in March 2021 about yet another man, but police had declined to lay charges.

The case against JM is proceeding despite Judge Newlinds calling on the Office of the DPP to “join the dots” and critically scrutinise the pattern of similar accusations which appear to be founded on an “idiosyncratic” view by the alleged victim of what constitutes sexual assault, which prosecutors were accused of failing to interrogate or challenge.

Judge Newlinds’ comments were contained in a judgment granting a costs certificate following the accused’s acquittal in the case of R v Martinez. In that case, the woman got drunk and initiated sex with the accused, which she participated in enthusiastically at the time. The next day she formed the view she was sexually assaulted because she could not remember the evening and believed she could not have consented, a contention rejected by the jury. The woman had made a virtually identical criminal complaint against another accused who was also acquitted by a jury.

“If the jury had known the full picture of the complainant’s history of accusing men of rape in similar circumstances, the time of deliberation would have been measured in minutes,” Judge Newlinds said in the Martinez case.

Judge Newlinds’ comments recorded his “deep level of concern that there is some unwritten policy or expectation in place in the Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions” that if any person alleges they have been sexually assaulted, the case should be prosecuted so as to let the jury decide rather than be rationally interrogated.

Those comments are now the subject of a complaint to the Judicial Commission of NSW by the state’s DPP, Sally Dowling SC, who has accused the judge of abandoning impartiality and undermining confidence in the criminal justice system.

If the defence in the JM case seek to have details of the woman’s previous pattern of accusation admitted into evidence, it will highlight the operation of section 293 of NSW’s Criminal Procedure Act.

The section has been the subject of criticism over decades, notably in recent years in the case of R v Jackmain, in which a jury was prevented from hearing evidence that a complainant had made false allegations of sexual assault on 12 prior occasions.

The defence counsel who acted in that case, Felicity Graham, branded the NSW law “an outlier” and said it posed a serious risk of false conviction.

“The law has been severely criticised, repeatedly by judges for over 30 years, draconian, that it causes significant unfairness to an accused, unfairness that is real and not illusory, that it is an affront to justice for someone to be put to trial without being able to use relevant substantially probative evidence in their defence,” Ms Graham said.

“These criticisms have been followed by comments to the effect that it is for parliament to fix this mess. The law in NSW is an outlier, providing for no overarching discretion vested in the trial judge to ensure justice is done in each particular case.

“Bringing NSW in line with the rest of Australia is not only simple but it is necessary to avoid miscarriages of justice. The NSW law is not properly tailored to the mischief it is supposed to address. The law should be amended urgently, before someone else is put to trial in circumstances that amount to an affront to justice.””

Dowling was a NSW Liberal government appointment, of course!

Mak Siccar
Mak Siccar
December 19, 2023 7:27 am

From the Oz.

ADAM CREIGHTON

Texas makes a stand against Big Pharma’s Covid vaccines

5:00AM DECEMBER 19, 2023

On the last day of November Texas launched extraordinary legal proceedings that could have wide-ranging political ramifications across the developed world.

Following a lengthy state investigation, Republican Attorney-General Ken Paxton sued pharmaceutical giant Pfizer for “false, deceptive, and misleading acts and practices” related to its Covid-19 vaccines.

Paxton didn’t mince words. “We are pursuing justice for the people of Texas, many of whom were coerced by tyrannical vaccine mandates to take a defective product sold by lies,” he said in his November 30 statement.

“The facts are clear. Pfizer did not tell the truth about their Covid-19 vaccines. Whereas the Biden administration weaponised the pandemic to force illegal public health decrees on the public and enrich pharmaceutical companies, I will use every tool I have to protect our citizens who were misled and harmed by Pfizer’s actions.”

The allegations make for shocking reading, even for someone who has followed the Covid wars closely.

Pfizer appears to have exaggerated the effectiveness of its vac­cines, making unfounded claims that routinely were parroted by governments, health officials and much of the mainstream media.

Remember “95 per cent effective”? According to Texas, “0.85 per cent effective” would have been a more accurate sales pitch. Pfizer ran one large clinical trial in 2020 to obtain emergency authorisation from the US Food and Drug Administration, which then green-lit the rollout. About 22,000 people were given a placebo and another 22,000 two shots of Pfizer’s Covid vaccine, and the results recorded two months later.

In the placebo group 162 people developed symptomatic Covid-19, but only eight in the vaccinated group, which is how the “95 per cent effective” was calculated. Yet according to the US Food and Drug Administration’s own guidelines this “relative risk reduction” measure is misleading and should at least be accompanied by the “absolute risk reduction”, which in this case was 0.85 per cent (0.9 per cent risk of contracting Covid-19 without vaccination, minus 0.04 per cent with).

Interestingly, the trial didn’t test the groups for asymptomatic Covid-19 using PCR tests, the kind we had to undergo repeatedly for the best part of two years, so who knows how many people in either group were infected. In terms of deaths from all causes across that two-month trial period, 21 people died in the vaccinated group and 17 in the placebo group – the opposite of what one might have expected.

Worse than promoting misleading statistics, Pfizer also claimed its vaccines stopped transmission and protected against other variants, when it knew they did not or didn’t have enough evidence to say either way.

“Pfizer deliberately created the false impression that its vaccine had durable and sustained protection, going so far as to withhold highly relevant data and information from the consuming public showing that efficacy waned rapidly,” the Texas petition says.

In February 2021, Pfizer’s chief executive claimed the vaccines offered “robust protection” against Covid-19 after six months, before the company had even collected six months of data. “No variant identified so far … escapes the protection of our vaccine,” the Pfizer chief later claimed, even though Pfizer hadn’t tested its vaccine against other variants. Israeli data from 2021 suggested efficacy against the Delta variant dropped to 39 per cent after only a month.

To anyone paying attention to daily life, all of this should have been obvious. Far more people died from or with Covid-19 in 2021 than in 2020, despite an overwhelming number of people in the developed world, especially those in at-risk groups, having been vaccinated by then.

“Indeed, by the end of 2021, official government reports showed that in at least some places a greater percentage of the vaccinated were dying from Covid-19 than the unvaccinated,” the Texas petition says. Yet to point any of these things then, even though the data was publicly available, was to invite censure as a science-denying fringe dweller.

Indeed, prominent US journalist Alex Berenson was kicked off Twitter (now X) last year for calling the vaccines “a therapeutic with a limited window of efficacy and terrible side effect profile” – a fair characterisation based on Pfizer’s own data.

Whatever its veracity, the company sales pitch was gobbled up by government, media and select experts. Pfizer sold billions of doses, doubling its revenues to $US38.4bn in 2021 from the year before. Things have gone pear-shaped since. Pfizer’s share price, which peaked at $US58 around when the Biden administration unsuccessfully tried to compel all employees in the nation to get the vaccine, has fallen 55 per cent since then, to its lowest levels since 2014.

Based on former Northern Territory chief minister Michael Gunner’s definition, 93 per cent of Americans aged six months and up are anti-vaxxers, ignoring government advice to be boosted with the last shots based on official data.

It’s not only Texans who have started to question the wisdom of forcing experimental vaccines with two months of clinical trial data on hundreds of millions of people. Australian academics Peter Parry and Peter Rhodes, in a forthcoming paper in journal Pathology – Research and Practice, lay out what they call “a historic public health disaster”.

“Many independent data sets concur – we have experienced a pandemic of viral illness, followed by a pandemic of vaccine injury,” they write, with specific reference to Australia.

Texas is suing under the state’s Deceptive Trade Practices Act. What’s on trial isn’t merely Pfizer but the institutions of governance in the developed world. If Texas wins, it will have highlighted perhaps the greatest medical fraud in history, and the abject failure of medical regulators on a scale at least as large as banking and financial regulators in 2008.

Pfizer in a public statement said its vaccine claims were “accurate and science-based” and the Texas case had no merit. If the claims in the 54-page petition are correct, the court of public opinion ultimately will find against it.

Dot
Dot
December 19, 2023 7:29 am

The section has been the subject of criticism over decades, notably in recent years in the case of R v Jackmain, in which a jury was prevented from hearing evidence that a complainant had made false allegations of sexual assault on 12 prior occasions.

So why doesn’t she have dozens of charges against her for perjury (in the least) and (perhaps) perverting the course of justice?

There’s a good case for and a good chance of, under a sane DDPP, of her never being released.

Perfidious Albino
Perfidious Albino
December 19, 2023 7:36 am

Interesting timing for Dave and Britnah to fly out, mid trial, days before Christmas. One could imagine charming Dave springing a surprise! Chrissie gift on his betrothed to put as much distance between himself and being called as a witness as possible.

Cassie of Sydney
December 19, 2023 7:38 am

I’ve long described both Shazza and Hoggins as our very own Bonnie and Clyde. Both Shazza and Knickerless are hucksters. As with Bonnie and Clyde, there’s a litany of corpses to step over, the most prominent of course being Brown, Reynolds, Cash, and Bruce Lehrmann. Knickerless was very honest in one of her first chats with her bestie for while, the Amphibian from Mosman. She told the Amphibian she didn’t want Bruce to ever work again. He won’t. He’s ruined, his life destroyed.

Of course Knickerless has been used as a puppet by Shazza, beautifully I might add. But their flight yesterday to France yesterday, like some latter day Russian aristocrats fleeing the Bolshevik regime, sadly doesn’t mean either will disappear into ignominy. Nah, we’ll hear their names again. Like the Russian aristocrats of old, Shazza will whittle through her money (our money) and then both will return to Oz to further milk their story although I suspect that unlike in 2021, when Knickerless was given a nice bed and breakfast at a mansion in Mosman, such an invitation won’t be forthcoming and she and Shazza will have to find their own lodgings.

I await Justice Lee’s judgment, that will make interesting reading.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 19, 2023 7:39 am

Mark Bolton
Dec 18, 2023 11:50 PM
And so here we all are ? … the last remaining vanguard of Conservatism … fending off the Leftie onslaught … !!! To the battlements we …Happy Few … !! Not including of course those of Us that choose to be miserable … and those that are still fishing for their dentures…

Yes Catalaxy was once a place of robust and intelligent conjecture … All good things must pass .

As I have commented before, you are NOT obliged to be here.

Feel free to pass by.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
December 19, 2023 8:05 am

A reminder for those interested.
Around 10.30 this Wednesday the Vic Supreme Court hands down a decision on our landholder action to disallow and quash the Energy Minister’s orders to approve and fast track the VNI West transmission project.
The Minister’s legal team spent a lot of time arguing that we had no standing and therefore had no right to challenge her orders.
The judge was recently made aware that the Australian Energy Regulator (AER) recognised our group as an entity with a legitimate interest in the project. His Honour expressed the view that he should have been informed of this fact at an earlier time.
I’m not sure if this will have a bearing on his decision but it scuttles quite a bit of the defence case and casts them in a poor light.
Fingers crossed.

Figures
Figures
December 19, 2023 8:06 am

Muddy, I’d suggest that conservatives don’t realise the need for a berserker until it’s too late. They maintain faith in the ability of the system to correct itself…to a fault.

I’m with you Roger. When a conservative saviour actually does come along, we allow the left to write the narrative against them rather than do everything in our power to defend them. It’s ok to continually push them further and further to the right, it is not ok to leave them to defend themselves when the leftist mobs attack.

calli
calli
December 19, 2023 8:13 am

The Minister’s legal team spent a lot of time arguing that we had no standing and therefore had no right to challenge her orders.

Unbelievable isn’t it? It’s your land these animals want to use.

In a just world these legal shonks would have motorways bulldozed through their mansions with little to no compensation.

Crossie
Crossie
December 19, 2023 8:13 am

I await Justice Lee’s judgment, that will make interesting reading.

I have no expectations of a good outcome for Bruce Lerhmann. Why would the establishment go against itself? It’s not as if there are protests and riots on the streets with flags waved to underscore people’s displeasure.

rosie
rosie
December 19, 2023 8:17 am
rosie
rosie
December 19, 2023 8:19 am

2.4 million buys a lot of rustic French charm.

The Bungonia Bee
The Bungonia Bee
December 19, 2023 8:19 am

Time for a word from William Butler Yeats:

Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.

shatterzzz
December 19, 2023 8:20 am

That’s got to be bullshit. If apes could build rafts millions of years ago they should have the Starship Enterprise by now.

They (apes) wuz ripped off by the 251s who swapped the plans for a bunch of bananas and a coupla pet wallabies and were about to launch into full starship production at Spaceport Wollongong when Jimmy arrived and wiped out their entire techno-heavy industry …….!

Dot
Dot
December 19, 2023 8:23 am

Cap’n Jimmy was created by Yakub, of course.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
December 19, 2023 8:24 am

Dowling was a NSW Liberal government appointment, of course!

an appointment based on an anatomical pre-requisite

alwaysright
alwaysright
December 19, 2023 8:24 am

the worst Are full of passionate intensity.

I always liked this line.

The Bungonia Bee
The Bungonia Bee
December 19, 2023 8:25 am

Alleged rape cases are up there with transgenderism in the race to fracture society terminally.

Dot
Dot
December 19, 2023 8:28 am

It’s so over, Bee.

Johnny Rotten
December 19, 2023 8:28 am

Cop on horse says to little girl on bike, “Did Santa get you that?” “Yes,” replies the little girl. “Well tell him to put a reflector light on it next year!” and fines her $5.

The little girl looks up at the cop and says, “Nice horse you’ve got there, did Santa bring you that?” The cop chuckles and replies, “He sure did!” “Well,” says the little girl, “Next year tell Santa that the d*ck goes under the horse, not on top of it!”

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 19, 2023 8:28 am

Tony Thomas being forensic over at Quadrant on academics signing petitions.
Anti-semitism’s signature moment.

Dot
Dot
December 19, 2023 8:29 am

“It’s over for the soyciety-cels…”

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 19, 2023 8:31 am

the worst Are full of passionate intensity.

Indeed. Check that out with Tony Thomas’ piece I just linked above.

rosie
rosie
December 19, 2023 8:33 am
rosie
rosie
December 19, 2023 8:35 am
Cassie of Sydney
December 19, 2023 8:35 am

Geez Louise, Peter Wertheim must read the Cat and my comments……have I not said this?

Political, Jewish leaders: Radical cleric inaction gives ‘green light’ to incendiary ‘final solution’ sermon

Political and Jewish leaders have said inaction on incendiary sermons delivered at a Sydney Islamic centre has given radical clerics a “green light” as another preacher called for a Muslim army, describing it as “the final solution”, a term explicitly linked to Nazism and the Holocaust.

The Australian revealed on Sunday how a cleric known as “Brother Muhammad” gave the sermon at Bankstown’s Al Madina Dawah Centre, itself the subject of two police investigations now dropped, that called for a Muslim army and an Islamic state with sharia law, and wrongly accused Israel of using AI to target children.

Jewish leaders said “Australia’s tolerance of intolerance” was reaching its limits.

“Brother Muhammad is the latest self-described Islamic preacher to spew hatred against Jews,” Executive Council of Australian Jewry co-CEO Peter Wertheim said.

“In the wake of Hamas’s genocidal atrocities, he has adopted the expression ‘the final solution’ against the world’s only Jewish state, an expression made infamous by Nazi Germany as a euphemism for the genocide of the Jewish people.”

The Australian previously revealed how police had dropped investigations into hate-fuelled sermons at the centre by cleric Abu Ousayd, also known as Wissam Haddad and “Brother Ismail”, which included calls for jihad, parables that said “kill Jews” and that if Islamic nations “spat on Israel the Jews would drown”. The police involved said each case had not breached the criminality threshold.

“Previous anti-Jewish rants by other Muslim preachers went unpunished, and now we see the consequences – Australia’s tolerance of intolerance must surely be reaching its limits,” Mr Wertheim said.

He contrasted Brother Muhammad’s use of the term with former senator Fraser Anning saying “the final solution to the immigration problem is a popular vote”, referring to Muslim immigrants, for which he was criticised.

“Brother Muhammad has used that identical expression in a manner that is even more directly reminiscent of Nazi ideas and practices,” Mr Wertheim said.

“Yet the same parties that screamed their disapproval of Mr Anning have been silent about this latest incident. Their hypocrisy and double standards could not be more obvious.”

NSW Jewish Board of Deputies president David Ossip said social cohesion was a “collective responsibility”, slamming the sermon’s rhetoric.

“Those who seek to divide our society based on race, religion or other immutable characteristics tear at the seams of what makes Australia the best place on Earth to live,” he said.

In political circles, the sermon was labelled “appalling” and “abhorrent”.

Opposition home affairs spokesman James Paterson said he was concerned that even after multiple investigations into the centre’s preachers, they continued to “sprout violent rhetoric and hatred”.

“Calling for a ‘final solution’ in the context of the Israel-Palestine conflict is abhorrent and indefensible,” Senator Paterson said, calling it “corrosive” to society and saying it should be rejected by Australians.

“Our law enforcement and security agencies must continue to keep a close eye on the inflammatory rhetoric from these preachers and ensure the law is robustly enforced.”

Liberal senator Dave Sharma, a former ambassador to Israel, agreed the failure to act on previous sermons had given the clerics “the green light”.

“This rhetoric is incendiary and only likely to fuel further anti-Semitism, especially with its appalling reference to seeking a ‘final solution’,” he said.

“Unfortunately NSW authorities have effectively given such speech the green light, with their bizarre and inexplicable failure to take action and enforce laws intended to safeguard our entire community.”

In December, when asked why police had dropped their investigations, NSW Premier Chris Minns reiterated that the sermons “reeked of anti-­Semitism” but decisions to prosecute sat with NSW police, who found its contents hadn’t breached section 93z of the Crimes Act.

The Anti-Discrimination Act, which makes it unlawful to incite hatred or contempt for a person or group on the basis of their belief or race, is a civil and not a criminal provision.

NSW Police was contacted about whether Brother Muhammad’s sermon would be subject to inquiries.”

Oh let me go further Mr Wertheim, Brother Muhammad IS a Jew hater, Fraser Anning was not and is not a Jew hater. Also, Mr Wertheim, perhaps mainstream Jewish communal organisations (apart from the marvellous AJA) should be a lot more circumspect when joining in with the left’s very deliberate targeting of people they don’t like with the smears “Nazis” and “far-right”.

Am I an oracle? No, all I’ve done for years is to connect the dots.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 19, 2023 8:40 am

Rosie’s link to pic of terrorists, at 8.17

Israel now has them all wearing the zip-up prison zoot suits found on prisoners everywhere, so they can’t be unfairly accused of holding prisoners ‘naked’. When I visited my second son, diagnosed with bipolar disorder in Long Bay Prison Hospital, all prisoners were wearing them for the prison visit. I note too that the pic has eight numbered faces visible and circled, while the rest are fogged out. Those visible are ID’d as participating in the Oct 7th attacks.

Justice is coming for the murdered and violated of that day.

Figures
Figures
December 19, 2023 8:41 am

Those comments are now the subject of a complaint to the Judicial Commission of NSW by the state’s DPP, Sally Dowling SC, who has accused the judge of abandoning impartiality and undermining confidence in the criminal justice system.

Any man (or non-feminist woman) on a rape trial jury should work on the assumption that everything that comes out of the mouth of the prosecutor is a lie.

Tom
Tom
December 19, 2023 8:41 am

Around 10.30 this Wednesday the Vic Supreme Court hands down a decision on our landholder action to disallow and quash the Energy Minister’s orders to approve and fast track the VNI West transmission project.

It’s good news that the wheels of justice are slowly turning, Farmer Gez, though I hold little hope for actual justice in this fascist backwater, where the government is using ideology to try to drive farmers out of business.

A short post at the Cat on the outcome would be great if you have time.

rosie
rosie
December 19, 2023 8:43 am
Dot
Dot
December 19, 2023 8:44 am

Those comments are now the subject of a complaint to the Judicial Commission of NSW by the state’s DPP, Sally Dowling SC, who has accused the judge of abandoning impartiality and undermining confidence in the criminal justice system.

Talk about throwing your weight around and talking your own book.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 19, 2023 8:44 am

Several European countries now require Islamic Imans to be licensed.

We should do that here and close down this Al Madina Dawah Centre outrage.
At least it would be a start to requiring an end to these hate sermons.

Frank
Frank
December 19, 2023 8:47 am

So Hoggins and co are moving to rural France which sounds like a typically romantic pipe dream. One hopes she invests her hard earned into opening an antiquarian bookshop to complete the gauzy Hallmark aura.

amortiser
amortiser
December 19, 2023 8:48 am

Second series of Reacher shows some promise. Alan Ritchson who plays Reacher has put on about 20kgs of muscle since series one and looks like Arnie on steroids.

Ritchson looks a dead ringer for Stuart MacGill, in the face anyway.

Dot
Dot
December 19, 2023 8:48 am

The section has been the subject of criticism over decades, notably in recent years in the case of R v Jackmain, in which a jury was prevented from hearing evidence that a complainant had made false allegations of sexual assault on 12 prior occasions.

Hmmm.

abandoning impartiality and undermining confidence in the criminal justice system

Hmmmmmmm.

Well, at least, we know someone did.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 19, 2023 8:50 am

IDF suggests aid stolen after finding $1.3M in cash in suitcases at home of senior Hamas member

The Israeli Defense Forces have seized more than $1.3 million in cash found inside a pair of suitcases at the home of a senior Hamas member in northern Gaza, officials said.

Members of the IDF’s Multidomain Unit were in the active Jabaliya area as they continued advancing in the few remaining strongholds of northern Gaza when they came across the cash, valued at 5 million NIS, the currency used in the Palestinian enclave and Israel, the IDF said.

The money was located in the home of a top Hamas member and is equal to the total amount seized from the terrorists from Oct. 7 to the end of November, according to the Israeli military.

“These funds—found inside a senior Hamas terrorist’s residence— were designated for terrorist activity,” the IDF wrote on X Monday.

“What could this money have been used for? Provisions of clean water, electricity and fuel for the residents of Gaza,” the IDF added, appearing to suggest the money was looted from Gaza’s aid fund.

Dot
Dot
December 19, 2023 8:51 am

So Hoggins and co are moving to rural France which sounds like a typically romantic pipe dream. One hopes she invests her hard earned into opening an antiquarian bookshop to complete the gauzy Hallmark aura.

Hopefully her and her other coconspirators are done in for perjury. The Moller memo ought to be enough. She would languish in a cell and then be penniless. Chateau de la Vagrant ought her only tipple, let alone French booze.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 19, 2023 8:52 am
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 19, 2023 8:54 am

Rosie’s 8.11 link – I couldn’t extract the ten Hamas war crimes from this link, which only displayed partial content. They probably involved false flag operations, which I’ve heard about elsewhere. Did anyone else have better luck with the link?

Cassie of Sydney
December 19, 2023 8:57 am

Fraser Anning is owed an apology.

Don’t worry Mr Anning, I always knew you were NOT a Nazi and/or Nazi sympathiser. I always knew the real NAZIS were those accusing you of being a Nazi and/or Nazi sympathiser, such as the slug here.

F*CKING HELL, the verminous hypocrisy and double standards are endless. Just remember how at the beginning of this year a former NSW Liberal premier was smeared as a Nazi because he once wore a Nazi uniform to a fancy dress party…in his youth. Meanwhile we have NAZI sympathisers in this Labor government. Meanwhile, in Western Sydney, REAL NAZIS abound and run amok. Meanwhile, we now have a fully fledged NAZI party and that party is called the Greens.

For years the left, including the slug here, threw around the word Nazi to smear, ridicule and silence their ideological opponents. And many fell for that trap. But I have always known who the real Nazis are.

Indolent
Indolent
December 19, 2023 9:00 am

Well deserved. I’m surprised that this hasn’t been raised before. How else can Schwab be described? Unfortunately, every Western government seems to be in his thrall. No wonder they hate Putin.

Putin Declares ‘Globalist Terrorist’ Klaus Schwab Is a ‘Legitimate Military Target’

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
December 19, 2023 9:05 am

https://michaelsmithnews.typepad.com/.a/6a0177444b0c2e970d02c8d3a1c665200c-800wi

The germans have a word for this image, a word that is not necessarily applied to unfortunate-looking or ugly people but to those who are annoying and irksome and it is a word that springs to mind ‘ere I see this smug pow backpfeifengesicht

Rabz
December 19, 2023 9:07 am

This bulltish about ‘radicalising’ is merely a means of transferring the responsibility from the aggressor to the victim.

Exactly – and it’s a backhanded way of exposing moozleys for the thoroughly unpleasant obnoxious wholly inadequate psychopaths they are. Although its doubtful the j’ismist who wrote the original rubbish in the first place would have realised this – “one man’s terrorist being another’s freedom fighter” and all that.

What morally bankrupt cretins.

Roger
Roger
December 19, 2023 9:07 am

Well, Jasper certainly surprised everyone.

Would be interesting to see the inputs to the BOM’s modelling.

Indolent
Indolent
December 19, 2023 9:08 am
bons
bons
December 19, 2023 9:09 am

I’m opening a book on how long the Higgins/Shiraz scam team will hold together.

No doubt she see them as a Megan and Hazza couple when in reality they are just an airport novel, and like all airport novels they are headed for the bin.

Note to Miss Hoggins: he won’t even leave a forwarding address when the money runs out.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 19, 2023 9:09 am

Grandson had mentioned Cane Toads at Byron during Schoolies Week – I had not realised they had got this far South

‘Nightmare fuel’: Cane toads take over Gold Coast town

A picture posted online shows the terrifying reality facing an Australian town, with a pest taking over its streets.

Rafiki
Rafiki
December 19, 2023 9:12 am

On being made aware of the basic facts of the late night visit to Parliament by Higgins and Lehrmann, and (because Higgins has now retracted her story) not having to consider the significance of a photo of the bruise as a detail, Fiona Brown accepted that she thought a rape was “possible”, but she “couldn’t rule it in or rule it out”.

That’s pretty much what a lot of people think after all that’s passed since. Lehrmann has to hope Lee J will see it this way too. A question he asked of Brown suggests that he thinks that the two staffers went to Parliament to have sex. Maybe he’s attaching weight to Higgins’ statement that “we took the party back to Parliament”. if so, he may not believe either of them, but that’s not enough to go further than Fiona Brown’s assessment.

Indolent
Indolent
December 19, 2023 9:12 am
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 19, 2023 9:13 am

From Rosie’s link, 6.52am. Colonel Kemp joins the IDF in area of friendly fire.

Hamas has previously feigned surrender and then tried to kill IDF troops moving to capture them. In this same area and elsewhere, terrorists have also used Hebrew voices to simulate hostages in order to lure soldiers into a trap. In one example that I’ve been told about, also in Shijaiyah, they used a speaker inside a building with a recording of a child’s voice crying out for “abba” (father). The soldiers, knowing every second could count, rapidly entered the booby-trapped building and some were killed and wounded. Just a couple of days ago terrorists used a talking doll stolen from a child hostage for the same lethally cynical purpose.

Figures
Figures
December 19, 2023 9:14 am

Unfortunately, every Western government seems to be in his thrall. No wonder they hate Putin.

Putin Declares ‘Globalist Terrorist’ Klaus Schwab Is a ‘Legitimate Military Target’

Can’t imagine why Western armies are finding it hard to recruit people when they get the chance to engage in such worthy causes as defending Schwab and his minions.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
December 19, 2023 9:15 am

rosie
Dec 19, 2023 8:19 AM

2.4 million buys a lot of rustic French charm.

Once upon a time.
Oddly enough, there are plenty of sales étrangers wanting a pad in the Languedoc. Prices for a damp stone cottage – charmante in Summer, misérable in Winter – are no longer cheap.

Then there is the cost of living. The Frogues do not ever miss the opportunities to earn a margin on English-language-only blow-ins – a couple of Australian plumpies will be ruthlessly wood-ducked.

Back next year.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 19, 2023 9:15 am

BOM scrutiny after Jasper rain

The rain in Jasper’s wake has been momentous in the region. Bairds, on the Cape York Peninsula, saw 879mm in the 24 hours to 9am on Monday – that’s not much less than a metre. Nearby Diwan got to 829mm.

That has led to questions for the BOM. It had forecast heavy rain in Cairns, just south of where Jasper made landfall, but only up to 130mm. Yet the city saw more than 250mm. Other areas experienced record breaking falls.

Douglas Shire Mayor Michael Kerr, whose council scored a direct hit from Jasper, told The Australian the Bureau had a lack of local staff.

“If this is so record-breaking, how did no one know this was going to happen? We need to have forecasts closer to what is going on.”

Queensland Premier Steven Miles said the BOM did the best did what it could to warn communities – but cyclones, by their nature, can change course and intensity.

“It couldn’t be predicted based on their observations and systems just how much rain would fall,” he said.

“They do the best that they can.”

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 19, 2023 9:19 am

No, it’s not ok to get your tackle out

I’m no prude, but a recent holiday had me confused and perplexed as people disrobed around me with little to no dignity at all.

When I noticed this strange behaviour on a recent trip I pointed it out to my girlfriend, who lived in Switzerland for years. She didn’t bat an eyelid. In fact, she told me that she once went to the beach with a Swiss ex and his family, sat down on a towel and watched her former father-in-law drop his dacks right in front of her, the family jewels at eye level.

Then he carried on as if nothing had happened.

Once you notice it, you see it everywhere. Elderly ladies baring it all as they put on their bikini bottoms. Young fathers flopping it out in front of their kids. Middle aged men whose paunches at least provide a bit of coverage.

Call me old fashioned, but I’ll stick with the time-tested sling-a-towel-around-your-waste-and-change-pants-while-trying-not-to-trip-over method.

It might not be dignified, but we invented it for a reason.

calli
calli
December 19, 2023 9:22 am

a couple of Australian plumpies will be ruthlessly wood-ducked.

Quite. Our English hosts in Sarlat were well aware of the local propensity to “pad” renno quotes.

They rented a property for a couple of years, got to know the locals well, and when the time came to buy and renovate, were in a position to pick and choose. They had become, if not locals, then accepted. Being fluent French speakers was also a must, as was being part of community activities and contributing to the French social life of the area., not hiding in a Pommy enclave.

I can see the allure of the French countryside, but gee you have to be careful.

Frank
Frank
December 19, 2023 9:23 am

a couple of Australian plumpies will be ruthlessly wood-ducked.

Art.

Tom
Tom
December 19, 2023 9:25 am

For years the left, including the slug here, threw around the word Nazi to smear, ridicule and silence their ideological opponents.

Classic projection: you accuse your opponents of being what you are yourself.

American commo activist Saul Alinsky died before he got to make that one of his Rules For Radicals.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 19, 2023 9:25 am

One hopes she invests her hard earned into opening an antiquarian bookshop to complete the gauzy Hallmark aura.

If not in some knickers.

Jorge
Jorge
December 19, 2023 9:25 am

Jimmy Lai’s trial in HK has implications for everyone. Jimmy is a Catholic, and he seems to have followed the example of the early martyrs in his resignation to imprisonment and judicial railroading.

Many of the indications for 2024 are of an apocalyptic endgame. There is a portentous mood abroad: one of the hot movies set for release is called ‘Civil War’. To follow Jimmy Lai and resign oneself as Christians did under the caliphate or to resist with inevitable violence ? Things fall apart then, for sure and certain.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
December 19, 2023 9:31 am

‘It’s already flooded’: BOM cops it over Far North flood predictions

The BoM is under fire after Queensland flood victims said they received emergency alerts while on the roofs of their already flooded homes.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 19, 2023 9:33 am

I suppose Brittany going to Brittany was a bridge too far.

Somewhere a koign amann breathes a sigh of relief.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
December 19, 2023 9:35 am

Texas v Pfizer.

Go Texas.

Hopefully Albert Bourla is having sleepless nights and having to have daily discussions with lawyers.

Eyrie
Eyrie
December 19, 2023 9:36 am

Well, Jasper certainly surprised everyone.

Would be interesting to see the inputs to the BOM’s modelling.

Go to http://www.windy.com and you will see the models used. ECMWF is the latest hi res one. The Bureau also has a regional one for Australia. For about A$30 you can buy the Pro version which gives hourly updates.
If you play around with Windy, there is all sorts of information available. Do remember that this is a non linear, coupled, chaotic system you are trying to forecast so under many circumstances it runs off the rails not too far into the future.

Crossie
Crossie
December 19, 2023 9:38 am

No wonder they hate Putin.

Putin Declares ‘Globalist Terrorist’ Klaus Schwab Is a ‘Legitimate Military Target’

So what are you going to do about it? Arrest him, bring him to trial.

Roger
Roger
December 19, 2023 9:39 am

Putin Declares ‘Globalist Terrorist’ Klaus Schwab Is a ‘Legitimate Military Target’

I’ve debunked this claim several times previously by quoting Putin’s speech.

I can’t be bothered anymore.

Eyrie
Eyrie
December 19, 2023 9:39 am

Hopefully Albert Bourla is having sleepless nights and having to have daily discussions with lawyers.

Prior to his swift arrest, trial, conviction and execution. Evil bastard.

Roger
Roger
December 19, 2023 9:41 am

Do remember that this is a non linear, coupled, chaotic system you are trying to forecast

I’m wondering how they missed the rising river levels, Eyrie.

Apparently BOM moved all or most of their NQ staff to Brisbane a few years ago, assuring locals everything could be monitored remotely.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 19, 2023 9:41 am

Interesting to see conservatism being (marginally) debated here last nite.

We watched the second (of four) just released episodes of The Crown. This one focussed on the Blair years, and Queen Elizabeth’s concerns that the monarchy was losing popular support. Blair was suitably unctuous and Cherie Blair was suitably arch and silly, so AOK there. The Queen was shown interviewing all of the arcanely-labelled medieval functionaries employed in her service, with a view to streamlining some away, but she ended up extolling the virtues of them all, and of conservatism in general. Pretty nice. Easy watching anyway.

Dot
Dot
December 19, 2023 9:42 am

Which one is it?

The oil market is fake because the price came down and petrol hasn’t moved or the Suez is blocked and the market is fake because oil hasn’t gone up enough?

Chances are people are frustrated they can’t understand everything beyond the price. The price shows (probably) that the Suez isn’t as important as it used to be and Australia has low capacity, high taxes and low levels of local competition.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 19, 2023 9:45 am

Now you can give money to an un-life-like AI through “her” OnlyFans as well.

Our Kate had this pegged decades ago.

(I prefer the earlier version with the witches vocals)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2HsN9WLQhI

As the people here grow colder
I turn to my computer
And spend my evenings with it
Like a friend.

I was loading a new programme
I had ordered from a magazine:

“Are you lonely, are you lost?
This voice console is a must.”
I press Execute.

“Hello, I know that you’ve been feeling tired.
I bring you love and deeper understanding.
Hello, I know that you’re unhappy.
I bring you love and deeper understanding.”

Well I’ve never felt such pleasure.
Nothing else seemed to matter.
I neglected my bodily needs.

I did not eat, I did not sleep,
The intensity increasing,
‘Til my family found me and intervened.

But I was lonely, I was lost,
Without my little black box.
I pick up the phone and go, Execute.

“Hello, I know that you’ve been feeling tired.
I bring you love and deeper understanding.
Hello, I know that you’re unhappy.
I bring you love and deeper understanding.”

I turn to my computer like a friend.
I need deeper understanding.
Give me deeper understanding.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
December 19, 2023 9:46 am

put as much distance between himself and being called as a witness as possible.
If I was in ermine and horsehair, I’d call the prick. Hell, it’s even more likely, who do they think they are?
Cue Tim Minchin-
“Come back, David Syrahhhhh, we know
You’ve flown away faaaaar, but, no
you’re the big impressaaaaario
behind this quite bizarre shit show
where an innocent man has been damned*
…it’s quite inexplicable that Sharaz hasn’t faced any legal grilling yet.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 19, 2023 9:47 am

Do remember that this is a non linear, coupled, chaotic system you are trying to forecast so under many circumstances it runs off the rails not too far into the future.

No no no, Eyrie. You have to remember that the science is settled.
Excellent modelling covering all bases has told us so. As with Covid.
Just ask our learned Judges. And the UN. And our esteemed medja.

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