Open Thread – Weekend 30 Dec 2023


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Barking Toad
Barking Toad
December 30, 2023 6:12 pm

Sums it up well Tom…

Tens of thousands of Milats โ€” supported by hundreds of thousands of civilian Milats barracking for the mass murder of Jews.

Mak Siccar
Mak Siccar
December 30, 2023 6:12 pm

Headline in The Oz:

โ€œPearson breaks silence on voice referendum โ€œ

Corrected headline now reads:

โ€œPearson breaks wind on voice referendumโ€

Crossie
Crossie
December 30, 2023 6:12 pm

areff
Dec 30, 2023 4:26 PM
JC: Iโ€™ll be gone until March 2025, so plenty of chance to catch up โ€” ideally at Bobby Vanโ€™s steakhouse โ€” when Iโ€™m in the NE, Manhattan in particular.

Most of the time Iโ€™ll be on the road โ€” first stop, all going well, the Iowa caucuses Jan 15.

Looking forward to your reports on the election season which I’m sure will be far more informative than anything other journalists send back, even the Sky reporters are not up to it.

calli
calli
December 30, 2023 6:13 pm

And let me assure you, it wasnโ€™t just about future evil, my focus is on the present one. If the punishment deters anything hideous in the future, so be it.

Mak Siccar
Mak Siccar
December 30, 2023 6:13 pm

Crikey, Top of the page! What a bonus for a headline!

Pogria
Pogria
December 30, 2023 6:15 pm

She missed the last target!

Cohenite,
that would only make her train harder. ๐Ÿ˜€

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 30, 2023 6:18 pm

Every day I see on twitter Hamas successfully engaging the IDF

An interesting and unusual definition of “success”. Currently Hamas are losing about 60:1 combat fatalities. Plus thousands more PoWs.

Pogria
Pogria
December 30, 2023 6:23 pm

Forgot to add to the post with the ASIO details, if you send a letter via snail mail, they HAVE to read it and acknowledge having done so.

JC
JC
December 30, 2023 6:25 pm

Sure, I did. You say, you read it on Twitter. Why are the Twitter accounts reliable?

Crossie
Crossie
December 30, 2023 6:26 pm

The Mongols were in the beginning raiders. Raiding is what a largely light cavalry is going to practice. The Arabs were similarly mostly cavalry so were predominately a raiding force. Steppe and desert environments are conducive to raiding. Further, I wouldnโ€™t say that raiding doesnโ€™t require discipline. It certainly does if itโ€™s going to be practiced effectively.

I take it farming was too labour intensive, stealing other people’s food was the way to go.

rosie
rosie
December 30, 2023 6:26 pm

Every day I see on twitter Hamas successfully engaging the IDF

Every day I see hamas putting up nonsense fake videos of them ‘destroying’ IDF tanks.
I also see videos of hamas being taken out by air strikes after IDF spot them and call in their locations.
It’s a great way to maximise the terrorist death count while minimising their own.
How much are the IDF over counting hamas deaths a 1000 2000 3000?
Hamas left 1000 dead in Israel on the 7th.
They don’t care.
I’m betting the surrenders are highly motivated by the appalling odds.
Hamas, not surprisingly aren’t putting up videos of where they are getting smashed.
The IDF have been blowing up a lot of tunnels.
No tunnel. No hide.

JMH
JMH
December 30, 2023 6:26 pm

Downticks. Says it all really and I rule out any manipulation. It’s contributors and readers expressing their disgust Not directed at you. Calli or other respected posters.

Pogria
Pogria
December 30, 2023 6:26 pm

This young boy has a serious future.
Almost makes we want to listen to Rap. Worth a listen to.

Pogria
Pogria
December 30, 2023 6:29 pm

Miltonf,
you mentioned upthread that you hadn’t Watt speak. He sounds as though he has a clothes peg clamped on his knackers. Very squeaky.

JMH
JMH
December 30, 2023 6:29 pm

JMH
Dec 30, 2023 6:26 PM
Downticks. Says it all really and I rule out any manipulation. Itโ€™s contributors and readers expressing their disgust. Not directed at you. Calli or other respected posters.

A fullstop was needed!

Pogria
Pogria
December 30, 2023 6:29 pm

HEARD! sheesh.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 30, 2023 6:30 pm

Thatโ€™s a steal from Woody Allan.

I knew I’d pinched the quote from someone…

JC
JC
December 30, 2023 6:32 pm

Look, no meds today and this is what happens.

Mak Siccar
Mak Siccar
December 30, 2023 6:33 pm

Oh Goody! I can like my own comment! More power to my finger!

JC
JC
December 30, 2023 6:34 pm

No, what’s needed is a month’s supply of anti-anxiety meds taken in one gulp (everyday). The downside is we end up with an entire evening of horse talk.

JMH
JMH
December 30, 2023 6:35 pm

Oh yeah! I’ll run it again because of a lost comma! ๐Ÿ™‚
JMH
Dec 30, 2023 6:26 PM
Downticks. Says it all really and I rule out any manipulation. Itโ€™s contributors and readers expressing their disgust. Not directed at you, Calli or other respected posters.

miltonf
miltonf
December 30, 2023 6:36 pm

Yes I think I read that here Pogria, this blog being my main source of news!

Katzenjammer
Katzenjammer
December 30, 2023 6:39 pm

Sure but your answer seemed to suggest that the lesson was applicable only to future hostage taking not to those currently held.

If this is a question, it implies there will be never ending repeats. Is that what you foresee?

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
December 30, 2023 6:44 pm

โ€œPearson breaks silence on voice referendum โ€œ

audience member, ex-News Corp and AAP photographer David Kapernick, said on social media that Mr Pearson accused Anthony Albanese of โ€œrunning awayโ€ from indigenous affairs.

โ€œNoel Pearson and Stan Grant at Woodford Folk festival discussing what to do now after referendum. Not impressed with Albanese โ€ฆ says heโ€™s running away and will do nothing,โ€ Mr Kapernick tweeted.

Disappointment all round when youโ€™ve misread the room, promised everything, delivered nothing, and the music stops. The price you pay for trying to run a country like an ALP Conference.

Handsome Boy taking it like a champ.

Winston Smith
December 30, 2023 6:44 pm

Katzenjammer
Dec 30, 2023 6:39 PM

If this is a question, it implies there will be never ending repeats. Is that what you foresee?

It’s what Hamas continually promises.

JC
JC
December 30, 2023 6:45 pm

Every day I see on twitter Hamas successfully engaging the IDF and this hasnโ€™t slackened since the ground invasion began. Itโ€™s pretty obvious the 8K killed is a gross exaggeration and the level of control the IDF have in the areas it occupies is precarious.

Why are a few minutes reliable? Also, have you considered Paliwood?

Indolent
Indolent
December 30, 2023 6:46 pm

Thousands In London Stand In Solidarity With The Jewish People

cohenite
December 30, 2023 6:50 pm

Even the NYT accepts the utter depravity of the hamas 7/10 atrocity:

NY Times bears witness to evidence of Palestinian sexual savagery on October 7: โ€œA two-month investigation by The Times uncovered painful new details, establishing that the attacks against women were not isolated events but part of a broader pattern of gender-based violence on Oct. 7.โ€

We have dozens of prior posts (see links at bottom) with photos, videos, and witness attestation to Hamasโ€™ butchery and savagery, particularly towards women who were not only raped but also sexually mutilated.

I would nuke Gaza and the West Bank; and summarily execute any pro-hamas protestor. It sounds harsh but in the long run the wisdom of this approach will become apparent.

Indolent
Indolent
December 30, 2023 6:52 pm
Indolent
Indolent
December 30, 2023 6:53 pm
Katzenjammer
Katzenjammer
December 30, 2023 6:53 pm

rosie
Dec 30, 2023 6:26 PM

Every day I see on twitter Hamas successfully engaging the IDF

They do. They’re still there. Isreali IDF are being killed, wounded and are fighting in a confusing environment. Rockets still fall on Tel Aviv. Ambiguous battle zones caused the death of those three hostages.

Iโ€™m betting the surrenders are highly motivated by the appalling odds.

IDF filters out surrenders, separating Hamas from human shields netted in the same zone. I haven’t seen any reports about surrender numbers and what happens to those they used as shields. What’s a typical proportion of captured Hamas and human shields – we don’t know.

dover prods us with informed reasonable devil’s advocate questions.

Indolent
Indolent
December 30, 2023 6:54 pm
H B Bear
H B Bear
December 30, 2023 6:55 pm

Noel Pearson and Stan Grant at Woodford Folk festival discussing what to do now after referendum

Ask not what your country go do for you. โ€ฆ and so on

miltonf
miltonf
December 30, 2023 6:57 pm

On the subject of Max Brenner, after all the attacks on that business in Melbourne, I always make a point of buying a coffee or something sweet and delicious there. Unfortunately the one at Woodgrove (Melton ) closed so that leaves Melb Central, QV and Highpoint (knifepoint) in my world.

JC
JC
December 30, 2023 6:58 pm

The videos are clearly not Paliwood.

Maybe they hired a decent Hollywood director this time to improve the scenes.

Even if the videos you’re watching are not manipulated, they don’t tell anything about what’s going on in the wider field of operation.

Katzenjammer
Katzenjammer
December 30, 2023 6:59 pm

If this is a question, it implies there will be never ending repeats. Is that what you foresee?

Short of an agreement in which those held in Israeli custody are freed, yes.

Really? All it needs to end this interminable conflict against the existence of Israel, where hostage taking is one tactic, is for Israel to release all captured Palestinians. Then click your fingers and the conflict is over.

Sorry, that’s not an answer.

areff
areff
December 30, 2023 6:59 pm

JC: I’ve bought a GMC camper van (5.7 litre V8, which seems a bit excessive) that’s waiting for me in Miami. A day or two to get the rego/insurance sorted, then Tampa to visit an ex-brother-in-law and off to Iowa. Son lives in Connecticut, so he’s the next stop, where I’ll to dandle grandie on my knee then, maybe, New Hampshire. Although that’s dubious because, as you mention, the cold.

This election year, so much going on, so many factors in play, from immigration to vote fraud (there’ll be lots of that) to the getting of Trump, that I wouldn’t miss such a story for all the tea in China.

Plus, I’m outta Danistan, can drive 10-15mph over the speed limit without getting booked, smokes are cheap, bourbon too.

Almost makes me feel young again

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 30, 2023 7:04 pm

I would nuke Gaza and the West Bank; and summarily execute any pro-hamas protestor.

Not interested in winning hearts and minds?

Rabz
December 30, 2023 7:05 pm

โ€œthe ALPBC is constantly harassed by News Corp commentators who for all I know get bonuses every time they demean the public broadcasterโ€

Hey, I’m not a Newscorpse commentator and I think the ALPBC is quite possibly the unfunniest joke in human history, given it’s incessant purveying of anti-Semitic libels, fake news and collectivist agitprop – all paid for by people its “staff” regard as less than human.

Oh – and by the way, feel free to purchase anything from this fabulous range of designer fashionwear – I’ll get some free cash bonuses if you do! ๐Ÿ™‚

miltonf
miltonf
December 30, 2023 7:06 pm

Iโ€™m outta Danistan, can drive 10-15mph over the speed limit without getting booked

Guys do that on the Western Freeway all the time.

Katzenjammer
Katzenjammer
December 30, 2023 7:06 pm

George Soros has so much money he can drive changes in governments

George has retired. His son might be worse.

cohenite
December 30, 2023 7:07 pm

Not interested in winning hearts and minds?

A valid point; if you vaporise the bastards you can’t do organ transplants; which is the only way hamas scum would be useful.

Katzenjammer
Katzenjammer
December 30, 2023 7:09 pm

I would nuke Gaza and the West Bank; and summarily execute any pro-hamas protestor.

I’d threaten to nuke this collection of targets, one by one until it stops. Mosques in Iran

miltonf
miltonf
December 30, 2023 7:09 pm

the ALPBC is quite possibly the unfunniest joke in human history

agree and absolutely no need for it anymore. Same as Sex Before Sleep. The soft porn I used see after coming home from night tech in the 90s was very enjoyable.

JC
JC
December 30, 2023 7:10 pm

JC: Iโ€™ve bought a GMC camper van (5.7 litre V8, which seems a bit excessive) thatโ€™s waiting for me in Miami.

Excessive? Naaa, ya think? LOL.

We’re heading early May and may stay until Christmas. Dunno yet.

Have a good time and report what you see, hopefully.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
December 30, 2023 7:11 pm

I sincerely hope Israel blows the sh*t out if those tunnels. What collapses above ground …. who cares?

rosie
rosie
December 30, 2023 7:12 pm
Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
December 30, 2023 7:13 pm

Weโ€™re still waiting for a response if youโ€™re not โ€œbusyโ€.

LOL. Who is “we” and I have no need to respond to any crap that you post here. Any response or comments that I make are in my own good time and when I choose to do so. Normally you lead with the chin and other Posters can have a ‘pop’ at you as well.

You are such a lazy Farker. If you don’t like Martin Armstrong then email him and contest/challenge him. As this Blog will challenge you. Trouble is, you don’t like it when your crap and abuse is contested. Go on and Martin would love to respond I’m sure. I’ll then post the response here. Should make for some good laughs at your expense.

Get back into the play pen and suck on that big fat dummy in your big fat Gob. Or just suck on a lemon and keep up the sour abuse. That’s just about your low life level.

areff
areff
December 30, 2023 7:15 pm

Milton, seriously. 20kmp over the limit in Danistan and you don’t get booked by the blue revenuers?

Not my experience and I have the points on my licence to prove it.

— roger

Roger
Roger
December 30, 2023 7:16 pm

Milei rejects Putin’s offer to join BRICS.

Rabz
December 30, 2023 7:17 pm

George has retired

He’s not “retired” in the manner I’d like him to be.

Roger
Roger
December 30, 2023 7:18 pm

Almost makes me feel young again

Enjoy your gap year in the States, areff.

miltonf
miltonf
December 30, 2023 7:18 pm

Seriously areff. The spot you need to watch out for is the Western Ring Road at Boundary Road.

miltonf
miltonf
December 30, 2023 7:19 pm

Not called the wild west for nothing.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
December 30, 2023 7:23 pm

JC Dec 30, 2023 6:10 PM
… It was meant get a rise, which it did.

Would this be a jet-pilot IQ putting forth more of intelligent ideas to discuss?

Indolent
Indolent
December 30, 2023 7:24 pm
Crossie
Crossie
December 30, 2023 7:27 pm

Indolent
Dec 30, 2023 6:53 PM
George Soros has so much money he can drive changes in governments

It seems every billionaire has got into the game. There’s Bezos and Zuckerberg, then the remaining Koch brother and probably many more I haven’t even heard of.

cohenite
December 30, 2023 7:30 pm

Indolent
Dec 30, 2023 7:22 PM
Maine Secretary of State, a Non-Attorney, Makes Legal Ruling Striking Trump from Ballot Based on YouTube Videos

In a normal world a quick adjudication of Ultra Vires would put this cat lady back in her Bric-ร -brac box.

Crossie
Crossie
December 30, 2023 7:31 pm

Roger
Dec 30, 2023 7:16 PM
Milei rejects Putinโ€™s offer to join BRICS.

Wise of him, after all he is trying to pull his country out of its current morass, not plunge it in deeper.

Rabz
December 30, 2023 7:33 pm

Milei rejects Putinโ€™s offer to join BRICS

South America remains an enigma, Cats.

Chile was first South American member of the OECD and it’s now being propelled backwards by an inexplicable upsurge in collectivist idiocy – oh wait, it’s a South American country.

Brazil could be an economic powerhouse* given its sheer size and population, as could Argentina.

*Pundits (of the economist persuasion) will be declaiming this nonevitability** until the end of this century, no doubt.

**The opposite of inevitability.

Roger
Roger
December 30, 2023 7:34 pm

Wise of him…

I think so.

Cassie of Sydney
December 30, 2023 7:36 pm

George Soros has so much money he can drive changes in governments

I don’t like George Soros and I think his ‘Open Foundation’ is a malevolent force in US politics however people forget that he actually did some good in the 1980s when he used his dosh to finance and promote liberty groups in eastern Europe.

In the early 1990s, after the iron curtain fell, Victor Orban studied in the UK and USA thanks to Soros dosh.

Personally, I don’t want to see anybody “billionaire” or “millionaire” using their money to sway elections, be they named Soros, Holmes a Court or Palmer.

Top Ender
Top Ender
December 30, 2023 7:46 pm

The notes Brittany Higgins and Bruce’s Lehrmann’s boss made: Chief-of-staff’s written account of what happened after THAT night at Parliament House emerges in bombshell court filing

Daily Mail

cohenite
December 30, 2023 7:54 pm

Top Ender
Dec 30, 2023 7:46 PM
The notes Brittany Higgins and Bruceโ€™s Lehrmannโ€™s boss made: Chief-of-staffโ€™s written account of what happened after THAT night at Parliament House emerges in bombshell court filing

Daily Mail

Lehrmann is fired immediately for breaking protocol; brittleknees gets a 3 Gorge Dam equivalent of concern and government assistance.

Siltstone
Siltstone
December 30, 2023 7:55 pm

Cassie @7:36.
Soros was influenced by Karl Popper and his analysis of the difference between open and closed societies. But after the disintegration of the Soviets and Warsaw block Soros has become what he previously derided, he has become anti-freedom and pro-suppression of alternative opinion.

Katzenjammer
Katzenjammer
December 30, 2023 8:01 pm

It seems every billionaire has got into the game. Thereโ€™s Bezos and Zuckerberg, then the remaining Koch brother and probably many more I havenโ€™t even heard of.

Each has their own strategies. Some via funding of NGOs to give the appearance of grass roots interests. Some via media platforms. Some via electoral support (eg teals or BuggerUp). Some via direct bribery, or indirect such as luxury yacht trips with porn broads on tap.

Rabz
December 30, 2023 8:05 pm

I donโ€™t think weโ€™ll avoid the trends weโ€™re seeing abroad, even (especially?) in W. Europe. The reaction against elite consensus politics will just be expressed in a very Australian way

Then hurry up about it, Australian electorate.

The reality is we’re too far gone. Presumably no meeja or political imbecile has yet had the gall to publicly claim (again) of late that this country is “the most successful multicu*tural society on this planet”.

That all went down the figurative toilet as of October 9 on the Oprah House forecourt.

I don’t want to share a country, let alone a planet with the stinky toxic animals out there on that day.

Thanks, quislings!

Katzenjammer
Katzenjammer
December 30, 2023 8:07 pm

Sometimes, the least palatable answers are the only realistic answers.

The original question and your answer implied future potential, not the current situation. I think context slipped from one to the other. But leave it – I don’t like entering into “they said” “and you said” “but I said” autopsies.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 30, 2023 8:07 pm

Headline in The Oz:

โ€œPearson breaks silence on voice referendum โ€œ

Dunno – I’ll bet good money Noel Pearson thought he, along with Mick Dodson and Marcia Langton, thought they would be part of any “Voice” to Parliament.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 30, 2023 8:12 pm

I said that so long as there are Palestinians in custody, tried or held indefinitely, they will use hostages if that is the only means of retrieving them.

Kabuki. Israel is feeding the US chooks about ceasefires and hostages.

If they can get a ceasefire with meaningful hostage releases they will do so though. The IDF could do with a rest and rotation. But be in no doubt that Gaza will be a razed plain of rubble by the time they’ve finished. The Israelis are pissed off, which is something you should never do.

Qatar deal could see release of up to 50 hostages, prolonged ceasefire in Gaza (JPost, 29 Dec)

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 30, 2023 8:14 pm

โ€˜A slice of resistanceโ€™: Thousands attend final 2023 pro-Palestinian rally
By Caroline Schelle
December 30, 2023 โ€” 7.08pm

Listen to this article
4 min

Thousands of pro-Palestinian protesters took to the streets of Melbourne for the final time this year, vowing to continue gathering in the city until the violence in Gaza ends.

They defied drizzly conditions on Saturday afternoon to meet on the steps of the State Library for the 12th Free Palestine rally.

Police estimated about 6000 protesters marched through the CBD, many donning traditional keffiyeh scarves โ€“ a symbol of the Palestinian movement โ€“ waving flags or holding signs calling for a ceasefire.

Roxburgh Park mum Zeanab Hameed said it was the ninth rally she had attended, and brought her children, Ali, Zahra and Sarah.

She said it was important that people kept speaking up about what was happening in Gaza and used their voices to stand up for those who couldnโ€™t.

โ€œWeโ€™re very committed, and will be coming until the war stops against innocent civilians,โ€ she said.

Does that include stopping the war against innocent Israeli civilians?

Winston Smith
December 30, 2023 8:14 pm

RogerF:
Elsies been quiet and hasn’t eaten yet. She has drunk some water. I’ve checked on her several times since we got home – that’s the old nurse “Doing the rounds” you get so used to – I laughed out loud when I realised what I was doing.
Found her a couple of times hidden behind a couple of cartons of baked beans, and she consented to a scratch behind the ears. Just back from the last check and she’s changed position to behind the curtains. She suffered through a gentle ear and back scratch.
I’ve turned the aircon off – it was hot this afternoon, but now it’s cooling off.
She looks good – she doesn’t have that greasy look that cats get when they’re stressed.
If you’d rather I can just send emails for a couple of days.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 30, 2023 8:19 pm

The Israelis are pissed off, which is something you should never do.

People keep making this mistake. The Israelis are a people of the Old Testament. All that stuff about forgiveness, and turning the other cheek, doesn’t apply.

Rabz
December 30, 2023 8:22 pm

Pearson thought he, along with big fat (soon to be dead, dead, dead) Dudson and Perfesser Plankton, would be part of any โ€œscreeechโ€ to that monstrous windbag sh*tshop

I really, really hate the political caste we’ve been cursed with in this country.

In any sane body politic in human history, the sacks of excrement in the first sentence above would not have risen above street beggars, given that’s exactly what they are.

Katzenjammer
Katzenjammer
December 30, 2023 8:24 pm

Hamas are able to replace their losses without any loss of experience or tempo.

Yet Hamas and Iran acknowledges when a primary key operative has been eliminated. eg October 7th was the response for assassination of Qasem Soleimani. If they can easily install replacements those eliminated must be much lower in importance and competance. Hamas has some very experienced, intelligent personnel. They wouldn’t be as easy to instantly replace. In any venture, particular key personnel are able to hold a range of strategies, implications, and communicate to others to execute their smaller part. Easily replaced persons are not these ones.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 30, 2023 8:25 pm

Been thinking about reading and readers. I have never undertaken any formal study of any sort of literature apart from the Leaving Certificate. I was quite sick in bed for a year in 1969 and did a lot of that sort of reading then during uni time. Also read quite a lot of the ‘greats’ when I worked in ads, long before I thought of going to uni. I’ve been ‘a reader’ all of my life, of all sorts of books. Ordinary people were often huge readers back in the day. It’s how Penguin got started. Some Cats and Kittehs will know this; others won’t. The reading public is now hostage to woke, most new writers are female, and boringly woke. Looking back at how we were, we’ve lost a lot of cultural literacy. It shows in what is published today.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 30, 2023 8:27 pm

dover0beach
Dec 30, 2023 6:37 PM
Sure, I did. You say, you read it on Twitter. Why are the Twitter accounts reliable?

Iโ€™m looking at footage JC.

Pallywood still busy?

Fair Shale
Fair Shale
December 30, 2023 8:28 pm

No tunnel. No hide.

Sounds like a Bob Marley song.

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
December 30, 2023 8:30 pm

That should be Fair Shake . I find I get many errors from my iphone and i need to delete all cookies and info and reboot regularly.

As you were.

JohnJJJ
JohnJJJ
December 30, 2023 8:31 pm

The Mongols were in the beginning raiders. Raiding is what a largely light cavalry is going to practice
Ah good we are continuing. Yes perhaps, There is a great beginning to ‘The Great Game” by Peter Hopkirk ” You could smell them coming, even before you heard the thunder of their hooves. But by then it was too late” describing the Mongols arriving. I don’t know much about the Mongol methods – or the Uighurs ( an oft forgotten reason the Chinese keep them at arms length). My history books only describe the Hordes, such as the destruction of the Nizari ( the Assassins) and Baghdad by sheer numbers, starving them out and burning the whole place.
But the Ay-rabs I do know.
The other interesting part of October 7 is that in Islam the Arab boy must know how to ride a horse and use a sword and spear. That is part of the Koran or the Hadith (I’ll have to look that up) . But they take this very very seriously (even in Australia, yes). Note how are Hamas had motorbikes and AK 47s. The Ay-rabs see this as the modern equivalent. It has to do with martyrdom.
To me if you want to defeat an enemy who wants you dead, you find out all about them.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 30, 2023 8:32 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Dec 30, 2023 7:04 PM
I would nuke Gaza and the West Bank; and summarily execute any pro-hamas protestor.

Not interested in winning hearts and minds?

Incinerate their balls, and their hearts and minds are irrelevant?

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
December 30, 2023 8:33 pm

Found her a couple of times hidden behind a couple of cartons of baked beans, and she consented to a scratch behind the ears. Just back from the last check and sheโ€™s changed position to behind the curtains.

She’s understandably anxious, but not panicked, which is good. When anxious, cats like to find a safe place where they can ‘hide’, giving them an element of protection. Attapuss likes to hide himself behind the curtains in our bedroom whenever our doorbell rings. He looks hilarious, because you can see his white sox and tail, but he doesn’t know that. He feels safe there. Elsie will take at least a few days before she starts to explore further. That she allows an ear scratch at this early shows what a secure animal she is in general. Bodes well for the future.

Baked beans reminds me, we have some leftover from kids’ breakfasts at Christmas.
Must see if they are still usable. If not, toss them.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 30, 2023 8:38 pm

dover0beach
Dec 30, 2023 7:54 PM
Even if the videos youโ€™re watching are not manipulated, they donโ€™t tell anything about whatโ€™s going on in the wider field of operation.

They do and this is seconded by the comment I quoted earlier from the NYT that Hamas are able to replace their losses without any loss of experience or tempo.

I might have missed the point, but didn’t someone comment that the relevant comments pre-dated 7 October? Might the reported current higher loss rate for leaders change the equation?

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
December 30, 2023 8:42 pm

Lizzie I was in Harry Hartogs recently and all bar a few Australian authors were women, of whichonly a few I’d heard of. I’ve been reading Jane Harper, the luvvies probably hate her coz she’s not woke, tells a great story, you can taste rural Australia in the words and she’s made a motza.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 30, 2023 8:46 pm

The Mongols were in the beginning raiders

Steppe by Piers Anthony is a fine SF book.

(I’m irritated by the blurb, the hero isn’t Turkish he’s Uighur. Which is how I knew about those people long before the Chinese ever got their genocidal boots on. The narrative is based on Temujin’s story. Doesn’t seem to be an ebook available, sadly, so I’ll have to dig out the PB and reread it.)

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
December 30, 2023 8:47 pm

ZK2A I must be Jewish, I don’t forgive or forget and never turn the other cheek.

Katzenjammer
Katzenjammer
December 30, 2023 8:47 pm

Police estimated about 6000 protesters marched through the CBD, many donning traditional keffiyeh scarves โ€“ a symbol of the Palestinian movement โ€“ waving flags or holding signs calling for a ceasefire.

I still have photos from my box brownie of groups of us at Zionist Habonim camps around Sydney in the late 1950s wearing black and white keffiyot, years before any Arab started calling themselves Palestinians. It was our symbolic expression of indigeity.

Palestinians are taught from birth that Jews have no valiid history in the Levant, that Jews are foreign European usurpers. They genuinely don’t know. Search on youtube for “Ask a Palestinian”. That could possibly be a starting point for Palestinians to understand the validity of Jewish claims.

This is a daydream.

mareeS
mareeS
December 30, 2023 8:48 pm

We just had a lovely afternoon of normal Australia at our local bowling club (Bar Beach Swimmer knows it).
Spouse and I, our offspring over from WA about to fly back for next Pilbara swing, joined up with my 2nd sister, her family and a bunch of friends, for barefoot bowls.

Sea breeze SE fresh off the ocean, a few bevvies, and not a single word of discord or politics from a happy crowd in the summer afternoon sunshine.

It felt normal. For a change.

Hope everyone here can find a few of these moments in 2024.

Rabz
December 30, 2023 8:50 pm

This Weekend’s Oz has an interesting read on the most complete 52 albums

Louis – what do they mean by “complete”? For example, listenable from beginning to end? Every song standing on its own, regardless of context?

There may just have been a Radio show post about this concept at some point …

Cassie of Sydney
December 30, 2023 8:53 pm

Roxburgh Park mum Zeanab Hameed said it was the ninth rally she had attended, and brought her children, Ali, Zahra and Sarah.”

Any word from Zeanab about the hostages?

Also, I’m offended by Zeanab’s choice of name for her daughter. Sarah is a Hebrew name. She’s appropriated a Hebrew name and she should change her daughter’s name. Sarah, Abraham’s wife, is the Jewish matriarch, buried in the city of Hebron. Zeanab should change her daughter’s name to Hagar, much more appropriate.

Nothing surprises me about Palestinian Nazi scum, they like to appropriate anything Jewish and related to Jews, they appropriate our land, they appropriate our history, and they appropriate our suffering.

I despise them.

Jorge
Jorge
December 30, 2023 8:54 pm

Re the Mongols etc, this is a good read, The Heartland by Stuart Legg:

many migrations from the steppes, the taiga, from western China to the Persian plateau. It links the people and the history of these regions in a most eye opening way. There is coverage of how these migration/invasions impacted the Roman Empire, the Seleucid Empire; where the Arabs came from, and all the cultual collisions between the Mongols, The Chinese, The Arabs, The early empires Of India……all with pertinent dates and names.

Rabz
December 30, 2023 8:55 pm

LOL – some serious partying going on in me neighborehood – might have to go and investigate, Cats! ๐Ÿ™‚

Jorge
Jorge
December 30, 2023 8:56 pm

Oops, the first sentence is The Heartland covers a period of time spanning over a thousand years, specifically covering the many migrations from the steppes, the taiga, from western China to the Persian plateau.

Cassie of Sydney
December 30, 2023 8:56 pm

Actually, we Jews do forgive, but before forgiveness there must be justice. Forgiveness is meaningless without justice.

Katzenjammer
Katzenjammer
December 30, 2023 8:57 pm

Baked beans reminds me, we have some leftover from kidsโ€™ breakfasts at Christmas.

So many years since good ole’ canned baked beans on toast, and canned sp’getti on toast, and canned mushrooms on toast. My mother figured these easy prepared meals, getting home late from the family shop. Modern life in the ’50s.

JC
JC
December 30, 2023 8:58 pm

Johnny Rotten
Dec 30, 2023 7:13 PM

Weโ€™re still waiting for a response if youโ€™re not โ€œbusyโ€.

LOL. Who is โ€œweโ€ and I have no need to respond to any crap that you post here. Any response or comments that I make are in my own good time and when I choose to do so. Normally you lead with the chin and other Posters can have a โ€˜popโ€™ at you as well.

You are such a lazy Farker. If you donโ€™t like Martin Armstrong then email him and contest/challenge him. As this Blog will challenge you. Trouble is, you donโ€™t like it when your crap and abuse is contested. Go on and Martin would love to respond Iโ€™m sure. Iโ€™ll then post the response here. Should make for some good laughs at your expense.

Get back into the play pen and suck on that big fat dummy in your big fat Gob. Or just suck on a lemon and keep up the sour abuse. Thatโ€™s just about your low life level.

LOL, what a sad pathetic crook.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
December 30, 2023 8:59 pm

Top Ender
Dec 30, 2023 7:46 PM

The notes Brittany Higgins and Bruceโ€™s Lehrmannโ€™s boss made: Chief-of-staffโ€™s written account of what happened after THAT night at Parliament House emerges in bombshell court filing

Assuming they were contemperaneous notes, you would have to wonder why Reynolds didn’t produce them at the ‘Lying Cow’ stage of the circus. Presumably someone suggested that proving Brinny a liar would be worse that an apology.

Cassie of Sydney
December 30, 2023 8:59 pm

I see the down ticker is having a merry old time.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 30, 2023 9:00 pm

many migrations from the steppes

David Drake, who died recently, also did a wonderful SF series based on all this stuff. Known as The General, since it pulled in the migrations with the history of Belisarius and the Byzantine Empire of that time. Very easy to reread.

Katzenjammer
Katzenjammer
December 30, 2023 9:02 pm

Nothing surprises me about Palestinian Nazi scum, they like to appropriate anything Jewish and related to Jews, they appropriate our land, they appropriate our history, and they appropriate our suffering.

The ultimate travesty in this is whene otherwise intelligent westerners insisting that antisemitism includes Arabs because their language is semitic.

Cassie of Sydney
December 30, 2023 9:04 pm

The ultimate travesty in this is whene otherwise intelligent westerners insisting that antisemitism includes Arabs because their language is semitic.”

Yep.

Rabz
December 30, 2023 9:04 pm
Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
December 30, 2023 9:07 pm

FFS. Stinking hot day, really stinking NQ hot day. 3pm clouds over storms build up north south and west, all gave us a wide berth.

Another hot night and I bet around 5am we’ll get something that will add to tomorrows humidity.

Spent the last couple of days digging up 6-7m of water main where I found more pinholes sending a a nice mist of water everywhere. Sourced pipe & new connections and relative plumber hooked it up. Re pressurised the lines minor weeping from one of the connectors.

Lots of swearwords etc and disassembly of said connector. Connecter apparently fine, got to be the line. Back to Reece for a joiner and I watched as a piece of the leftover pipe was spliced into the line. Leaky pipe discarded. Re-pressurisation, no leaks.

Today backfill trench with copious amounts of water. Beers about to follow.

Was cheaper to get a relative on a flight up here for a few days and the part he was only allowed to do took no more than an hour than the quotes I had to get done whenever they had time in the new year. Wouldn’t trade my vocation for quids with the experiences I have had but I imagine if I had of instead done a trade.

Night all, if I don’t pop up for New Year Eve, Happy New Year all…

Have a prosperous 2024.

JC
JC
December 30, 2023 9:09 pm

Have a prosperous 2024.

You too, Rocdoc and a healthy one.

Black Ball
Black Ball
December 30, 2023 9:11 pm

The dog collar is appropriate.

Sydney Mayor Clover Moore has supported councils no longer holding citizenship ceremonies on Australia Day, calling it a โ€œpainfulโ€ day for many.

The Saturday Telegraph on Saturday revealed more than 80 local councils across Australia have decided to scrap citizenship ceremonies on January 26.

Ms Moore said the City of Sydney will be holding ceremonies on January 29 instead, in line with the new government code, just as they did this year.

FMD

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 30, 2023 9:12 pm

Earlier, and apropos of the keffiyeh-wearers:

They defied drizzly conditions on Saturday afternoon

My God.

How can a nation withstand this?

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
December 30, 2023 9:14 pm

How many times has King Tampon made a claim about the end of the world? Scary to think d*chead Andrews will take over when tampon carks it.

Katzenjammer
Katzenjammer
December 30, 2023 9:18 pm

Ms Moore said the City of Sydney will be holding ceremonies on January 29 instead, in line with the new government code

Refusing to hold citizenship ceremonies on 26th January is a back handed acknowledgement of the significance of that date,

Rabz
December 30, 2023 9:18 pm

The Warhol and the Exploding Plastic Inevitable, Noo Yoik. ’67 …

Rock and Roll, as she is spoke, Cats ๐Ÿ™‚

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
December 30, 2023 9:20 pm

….d*ckhead Prince Andrews.

Luzu
Luzu
December 30, 2023 9:20 pm

Hahahahahahaha!

There is actually a mindless CNN female talking head named Kasie Hunt.

Reverend Spooner would be peeing himself.

Zafiro
Zafiro
December 30, 2023 9:21 pm

This Weekendโ€™s Oz has an interesting read on the most complete 52 albums

Back in Black by AC/DC is best album IMHO. Compass Point studios, Nassau, Bahamas. 10 songs. 9 A grade. ” Givin’ the dog a bone” slightly meh and filler.

Kurt Cobain had it in his top echelon.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
December 30, 2023 9:21 pm

How many times has King Tampon made a claim about the end of the world? Scary to think d*chead Andrews will take over when tampon carks it.

Why on earth would anyone care what any of these inbred nitwits think about anything? They are historical curiosities and utterly inconsequential.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 30, 2023 9:24 pm

Katz

Clover Less now doesn’t have to work on the public holiday, and can use ratepayers’ funds for a little lunch on the following Monday.

Luzu
Luzu
December 30, 2023 9:25 pm

Steve,

Love the Inman stuff but the heir apparent is Wills followed by the heir presumptive, George.

Andrew comes after Wills, his progeny, Harry and then his progeny.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 30, 2023 9:26 pm

Steve trickler
Dec 30, 2023 9:20 PM
โ€ฆ.d*ckhead Prince Andrews.

Is a long way down the order of succession.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 30, 2023 9:27 pm

Luzu

Snap.

Katzenjammer
Katzenjammer
December 30, 2023 9:28 pm

dover prods us with informed reasonable devilโ€™s advocate questions.

I hope this was noticed. I respect it. Some go through to the keeper.

Rabz
December 30, 2023 9:30 pm

RD – you’ll live. There’s nothing like a bit o’ good ol’ summer humidity to remind you of anything else.

Sydneystan has been blessed with some very fine weather over the last few days. This afternoon, for example – 26, sunny and breezy.

Other than that, summer holidays remain a treat. Went for an early run this morning, then a tastee breakfast and a bit later, mowing the back lawn.

Leavened with some reading, listening to music, quiet contemplation and admiring the azure sky from the (now frangipani free) back garden. ๐Ÿ™‚

Suburban bliss – there’s a lot to be said for it, Cats.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
December 30, 2023 9:30 pm

DrBeauGan
Dec 30, 2023 9:21 PM

How many times has King Tampon made a claim about the end of the world? Scary to think d*chead Andrews will take over when tampon carks it.

Why on earth would anyone care what any of these inbred nitwits think about anything? They are historical curiosities and utterly inconsequential.

People do. Media love them and so do the sheep.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
December 30, 2023 9:33 pm

Luzu
Dec 30, 2023 9:25 PM
Steve,

Love the Inman stuff but the heir apparent is Wills followed by the heir presumptive, George.

Andrew comes after Wills, his progeny, Harry and then his progeny.

Oops.

Katzenjammer
Katzenjammer
December 30, 2023 9:36 pm

Boambee John
Clover Less now doesnโ€™t have to work on the public holiday, and can use ratepayersโ€™ funds for a little lunch on the following Monday.

I live in her domain. All I can do is cast a vote so a single funding allotment goes to a reasonable candidate’s party.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 30, 2023 9:36 pm

Nothing surprises me about Palestinian Nazi scum, they like to appropriate anything Jewish and related to Jews, they appropriate our land, they appropriate our history, and they appropriate our suffering.

I despise them.

As do I. They have followed two swivel eyed loons who demanded the complete annihilation of the State of Israel – the Grand Mufti of Jeruselum, and his psychopathic nephew, Yasser Arafat – and they can’t work out why no – one takes them seriously, with their claim to be the eternal victims.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
December 30, 2023 9:40 pm

People do. Media love them and so do the sheep.

Losers, all. Anyone who cares about the royals, or what the media thinks important, is desperately in need of a life.

Rabz
December 30, 2023 9:49 pm

Beaugy – the braindead lamestream meeja, when they’re not focused on the pointless existences of those such as the “royals” are capable of whipping up monstrous lies and hatred.

They are evil dangerous scum and should be treated as such.

Zafiro
Zafiro
December 30, 2023 9:50 pm

I just got told by an old Aunt that Prince Philip was rooting a sheila in a pub in Footscray. She was the publicans daughter. He was shacked up there for a bit. He went to the local shops a few times for the newspaper and cigarettes etc. He was trying to be nondescript, and very successful it would seem. They were onto him, some of the local women. This gossip is valid. 1956 Melbourne Olympics.

Rabz
December 30, 2023 9:53 pm

Lou, Sterlo and the Cale – R ‘n’ R in a B ‘n’ W nutshell, Cats!

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
December 30, 2023 9:56 pm

Going camping tomorrow. Nothing major. It will be illegal.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 30, 2023 9:56 pm

Zafiro
Dec 30, 2023 9:50 PM
I just got told by an old Aunt that Prince Philip was rooting a sheila in a pub in Footscray. She was the publicans daughter. He was shacked up there for a bit. He went to the local shops a few times for the newspaper and cigarettes etc. He was trying to be nondescript, and very successful it would seem. They were onto him, some of the local women. This gossip is valid. 1956 Melbourne Olympics.

Sounds more like 1945 British Pacific Fleet?

Luzu
Luzu
December 30, 2023 9:58 pm

Cassie,

I didn’t get it the first time you said President Milei was sexy.

I went back and looked through a few articles and photos.

Yup. Pretty much 50yo+ sex on a stick.

But if he were a stupid socialist, I wouldn’t have voted for him if I were Argentinean. I use my brain for such decisions, not my genitalia.

Carpe Jugulum
Carpe Jugulum
December 30, 2023 9:59 pm

Good Evening Troops

I came across this on YouTube by chance.

Full Metal Jacket with Disney Voices

Drill Sergent Donald Duck is a pisser

Zafiro
Zafiro
December 30, 2023 10:01 pm

Nothing major. It will be illegal.

Onya bro. Enjoy.

Jorge
Jorge
December 30, 2023 10:02 pm

Are Andrew and Fergie remarrying ?

Cassie of Sydney
December 30, 2023 10:04 pm

But if he were a stupid socialist, I wouldnโ€™t have voted for him if I were Argentinean. I use my brain for such decisions, not my genitalia.”

As do I, Luzu. And what I find sexy about Milei isn’t his looks, it’s his mind and personality.

John H.
John H.
December 30, 2023 10:05 pm

Steve trickler
Dec 30, 2023 9:30 PM
DrBeauGan
Dec 30, 2023 9:21 PM

People do. Media love them and so do the sheep.

In Britain support is rapidly waning, the young are sick of it, but I suspect most politicians there dare not utter a critical word about the royals. It is utterly ridiculous. Remaining allegiance is mostly from the right.

Be shocked people because there is a still a large segment of the population that relies on the MSM as their principle source of information.

Rabz
December 30, 2023 10:05 pm

err, in case anyone might accuse me of being a personage prone to discounting the o’pinions of womanages, here is one, expounding on the Velvets’ first album.

Trigger warning: Aesthetically pleasing bimbage with a very annoying voice in a distracting frog style striped top … ๐Ÿ˜•

Cassie of Sydney
December 30, 2023 10:05 pm

I doubt very much that Prince Phillip was rooting a sheila in Footscray in 1956.

Zatara
Zatara
December 30, 2023 10:08 pm

Colorado Bans Trump From Running Over Concerns Usual Election Rigging System Could Fail

DENVER, CO โ€” Facing critics over their 4-3 decision to remove Trump from the presidential ballot in 2024, Colorado’s Supreme Court insisted it was a necessary step due to concerns the usual election rigging system could fail.

“I know we have all the normal rigging techniques available to us, but we’re worried that Trump’s lead could grow so much that those efforts will fail to protect our democracy as they did in 2020,” said Justice Richard Gabriel. “Rest assured, we will not rest until we save democracy by making it completely illegal to vote for Trump. You’re welcome, America!”

Bonus Bee –

Democrats Disprove Claims They Will Covertly Rig Election By Rigging It In Plain Sight

AUGUSTA, ME โ€” In a move designed to push back against criticism that they have a track record of rigging elections in secret, Democrats have now adopted a policy of rigging elections in broad daylight so everyone in the country can see it.

“We are being entirely transparent about our election interference,” said Maine Secretary of State Shenna Bellows after announcing former President Donald Trump will not be allowed on the 2024 primary ballot. “Any wild allegations of covert efforts to rig elections are simply preposterous. As anyone can clearly see, the steps we are taking to interfere with and rig the outcome of our elections are being done in plain sight. This is a win for democracy.”

Cassie of Sydney
December 30, 2023 10:10 pm

I don’t think support for the monarchy is “rapidly waning” in the UK. Perhaps in the progressive heartland that’s London, Manchester and Birmingham it might be but no where else.

In fact, a recent poll showed King Chuck to be very popular, almost as popular as his late mother.

Here’s another thing, if there was a referendum on the republic here in Oz next Saturday, it would go down in flames, just like the Voice referendum did on 14 October 2023.

I voted for the republic in 1999, I will not be voting for a republic any time soon.

Indolent
Indolent
December 30, 2023 10:14 pm
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 30, 2023 10:16 pm

Sounds more like 1945 British Pacific Fleet?

When the legendary New South Wales copper “Bumper” Farell, sprung an officer of the Royal Navy having a quiet “snakes hiss” in an alleyway off the Darlinghurst road, and booted him up the clacker? Supposed to have been the last time Prince Phillip piddled in a Kings Cross alleyway.

MatrixTransform
December 30, 2023 10:17 pm

All syns for blowhard

JC’s idiotic game like that of most narcissists, is a moronic gambit

yr meant to either love him or fear him

the thing is, nobody fears him because he’s essentially just a light-weight with a loud mouth

and possibly the only person that loves him is his mate the mexican cock-limpet

Diogenes
Diogenes
December 30, 2023 10:21 pm

holding citizenship ceremonies on Australia Day, calling it a โ€œpainfulโ€ day for many.

Obviously not painful for the new citizens, the aboriginals are not involved as they are already citizens.

Rabz
December 30, 2023 10:22 pm

I doubt very much that Prince Phillip was rooting a sheila in Footascray in 1956.

err, there, were ye?

Rabz
December 30, 2023 10:25 pm

A sheila who has (presumably and hopefully) never gifted Footescray with her presence …

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 30, 2023 10:26 pm

UK: Welsh government features 14-year-old girls in appeal to attract migrants to settle there

I’m glad my family left Wales in, oh I don’t know, 1898?

The Beer whisperer
The Beer whisperer
December 30, 2023 10:27 pm

This young boy has a serious future.
Almost makes we want to listen to Rap. Worth a listen to.

Who took the C out of rap?

Zafiro
Zafiro
December 30, 2023 10:41 pm

I doubt very much that Prince Phillip was rooting a sheila in Footscray in 1956.

I agree it sounds ludicrous. I interrogated the old tart. She is 93. Full truth. Footscray was not a shit hole back then. It was a well established town, It became a shit hole for a while., now it is funky/hip apparently, I haven’t willingly set foot in metropolitan Melbourne since 1999,

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 30, 2023 10:43 pm

From the Hun.

Libs pledge to set new citizenship ceremony rules for Australia Day

Opposition immigration spokesman Dan Tehan has pledged a future Coalition government will force councils to hold citizenship ceremonies on Australia Day after more than a quarter of Victorian councils scrapped them.

Rabz
December 30, 2023 10:43 pm

Let’s have some Cap’n Beefheart, Cats – best enjoyed as it is, in a plush kitchen in Vaucluse at 2:00am on a Sunday Morning! ๐Ÿ™‚

Luzu
Luzu
December 30, 2023 10:46 pm

Oh dear, Cassie

As much as I like his politics (and I do very much), I find the physical Milei rather appealing.

Unless, of course, he turns out to be 4′ tall at which point I will admire his intellect and drive and back away slowly….

I have all the time in the world for women who love and adore men shorter than themselves. They are saints. Alas, I am not one of them.

John H.
John H.
December 30, 2023 10:47 pm

Cassie of Sydney
Dec 30, 2023 10:10 PM
I donโ€™t think support for the monarchy is โ€œrapidly waningโ€ in the UK. Perhaps in the progressive heartland thatโ€™s London, Manchester and Birmingham it might be but no where else.

In fact, a recent poll showed King Chuck to be very popular, almost as popular as his late mother.

Hereโ€™s another thing, if there was a referendum on the republic here in Oz next Saturday, it would go down in flames, just like the Voice referendum did on 14 October 2023.

I voted for the republic in 1999, I will not be voting for a republic any time soon.

It is definitely waning, especially among the young. In a poll this year 25% wanted it abolished. Lowest since records began in 1983.

In 2023 figures show a drop back to similar figures seen in 2021, the lowest on record. 29% said the monarchy was โ€˜very importantโ€™, 26% said it was โ€˜quite importantโ€™, 20% said it was โ€˜not very importantโ€™ and 25% said it was โ€˜not at all important / abolishโ€™.

three areas the monarchy had to worry about: Scotland, Britainโ€™s ethnic minorities and the young. Fewer than half of people in Scotland said they supported retaining the monarchy. Across Britain, only 40% of 18- to 24-year-olds backed keeping the monarchy, while 37% of people from an ethnic minority did so.

There are enough right wing sheep to keep it going for a while yet so I have no idea why you mentioned the republic.

The Beer whisperer
The Beer whisperer
December 30, 2023 10:58 pm

I have all the time in the world for women who love and adore men shorter than themselves. They are saints. Alas, I am not one of them.

1

Many Sheila’s are worse off having baulked at being taller than me with ridiculous high heels

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
December 30, 2023 11:00 pm

There are enough right wing sheep to keep it going for a while yet so I have no idea why you mentioned the republic.

I’m an abolitionist of the monarchy in the UK, but a stern supporter of it in Australia. There are several reasons for supporting the monarchy in Oz, for a start, the poms pay for it and the royal family hardly ever come here and normally live the other side of the planet. But the real reason is that they stop us giving the job of being a figurehead to one of our home-grown politicians.

Rabz
December 30, 2023 11:00 pm

This young boy has a serious future.

LOL – the top of the Goulburn Street carpark, Pogs.

This young boy had a serious future as well. ๐Ÿ˜•

Rabz
December 30, 2023 11:05 pm
JC
JC
December 30, 2023 11:11 pm

Trans self describes as a god oracle, reckons people drop doogans when he walks into a room and now refers to others as narcissistic?
Have you ever?

Indolent
Indolent
December 30, 2023 11:12 pm
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 30, 2023 11:13 pm

But the real reason is that they stop us giving the job of being a figurehead to one of our home-grown politicians.

You don’t support Linda Burney for President?

Rabz
December 30, 2023 11:16 pm

The Goil has got it goin’ on, Cats – Miss Abigail Devoe ๐Ÿ™‚

John H.
John H.
December 30, 2023 11:18 pm

DrBeauGan
Dec 30, 2023 11:00 PM

There are enough right wing sheep to keep it going for a while yet so I have no idea why you mentioned the republic.

Iโ€™m an abolitionist of the monarchy in the UK, but a stern supporter of it in Australia. There are several reasons for supporting the monarchy in Oz, for a start, the poms pay for it and the royal family hardly ever come here and normally live the other side of the planet. But the real reason is that they stop us giving the job of being a figurehead to one of our home-grown politicians.

There are many countries that manage democracy without a monarchy. The royals are not of superior caliber to our politicians and if the current generation is any indication the genetic rot will do them in.?At this rate the monarchy might be better off as AI controlled mannequins. Either way I don’t care about the issue in Australia.

Digger
Digger
December 30, 2023 11:21 pm

Indolent
Dec 30, 2023 11:11 PM
Mike Benz
@MikeBenzCyber

Same. FWIW, I genuinely donโ€™t know any unvaxxed ppl who got Covid 3, 4, 5 times. Am I alone?

I’m unvaxxed and had Covid over ANZAC Day, 2022. Didn’t get sick, no increase in temp, had a runny nose and spontaneously coughed for a month or so – locked away for a week. The lock up was good because in enabled me to finish proof reading and finalising my book. No additional Covid concerns to this day…

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
December 30, 2023 11:23 pm

You donโ€™t support Linda Burney for President?

Bleuchh!!!

I could be persuaded to have one of the Price ladies. Either would do, mother or daughter. But it would never happen.

Rabz
December 30, 2023 11:24 pm

The Yeezey – regardless of those regrettable outbursts, he needs to be back, Cats …

JC
JC
December 30, 2023 11:25 pm

John H

Constitutional monarchies have been the most stable political systems in the world. Australia is one of the oldest and most stable democracies. Before we change the system, we need to think very hard and long.

John H.
John H.
December 30, 2023 11:37 pm

JC
Dec 30, 2023 11:25 PM
John H

Constitutional monarchies have been the most stable political systems in the world. Australia is one of the oldest and most stable democracies. Before we change the system, we need to think very hard and long.

Only because they have been around the longest. Charlie, Andrew, and Harry are mediocre and the latter two are a huge stain on the institution. In Britain the monarchy is fading and if it is abolished there it is pointless here. Not even our decision so what’s your point? Dr. BG wants it abolished in Britain but preserved here? Computer says no. Hence my reference to mannequins. The monarchy probably has at least another 50 years in it.

Rabz
December 30, 2023 11:39 pm

Ah, the good ol’ seventies, when scantily clad bimbages shakin’ it to CCR on primetime braindead FTA commercial television was just completely normal.

A televisual feast, indeed.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 30, 2023 11:45 pm

Diogenes earlier.

88 per cent of residential aged care homes reported a registered nurse on duty 24/7,

Well, a lot threw up their hands at first because the funding was tied to actual 24/7 coverage for the whole month.
You spend the money on 5-6 nurses to get the coverage and one calls in sick on the 31st and no funding.
They relaxed it to something like 83% coverage which is a bit more achievable.
But now they want to jail voluntary aged care directors for deaths and injuries in aged care homes (with a reverse burden of proof).

JC
JC
December 30, 2023 11:46 pm

John H, I suspect republics have been around longer than constitutional monarchies, and republics all seem to have an expiry date. Even though Charles appears to be a bit of a meathead, the position is more important than the individual.

Rabz
December 30, 2023 11:52 pm

Hey, Western Goils – This is just wonderful.

As is being a Trad Woife.

Perhaps you should try it some time. You know, before you eventually end up very dead in an existence pod with your not so pretty li’l face being feasted upon by your many, many cats.

John H.
John H.
December 31, 2023 12:01 am

JC
Dec 30, 2023 11:46 PM
John H, I suspect republics have been around longer than constitutional monarchies, and republics all seem to have an expiry date. Even though Charles appears to be a bit of a meathead, the position is more important than the individual.

Monarchies are older than writing. Democracy is a recent phenomenon. The comparison is which is more stable: democracy or monarchy. The problem is that monarchy has been around so long it is very easy to find examples of monarchies going stupid. The position becomes less important with each less capable individual.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 31, 2023 12:03 am

It is a very honourable thing to adopt another man’s pussy (with consent of course) and Winston is to be commended for it.
Well done you, Winston.
(Because I love animals. Yes, even cats).

JC
JC
December 31, 2023 12:20 am

Monarchies are older than writing. Democracy is a recent phenomenon.

The oldest type of monarchy is absolute, yet it differs greatly from constitutional monarchies as monarch’s authority is restricted. It provides, in my opinion, a uniting leadership above politics and stability in general.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
December 31, 2023 3:20 am

I wish I lived near the ocean. I need salt water on the skin.

Psoriasis sucks.

Tom
Tom
December 31, 2023 4:01 am
Petros
Petros
December 31, 2023 6:29 am

Switzerland does a pretty good job of showing how democracies can work well over centuries. Pity we don’t follow their model more closely.

John H.
John H.
December 31, 2023 6:33 am

Experimental therapy eases Alzheimer’s signs, symptoms in mice

I like what they have done here. Creative and clever, a very interesting way of using immune responses to reduce toxic protein loading and inflammation in the brain.

The next step will be testing this approach in humans. Those close to the study are optimistic.

It should translate well and does have promise. Optimism is warranted. Hopefully this will be rushed into clinical trials. It won’t cure Alz, nothing can, but if used early enough it can potentially very much slow progression. Diagnosis usually occurs after substantial tissue loss and that won’t be recovered because adult mammalian brains produce new cells at very low rates and mostly in specific places; although I have read studies suggesting new neurons can travel some distance.

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
December 31, 2023 6:37 am

Sky News This Morning:
“Trump said he would build the wall – it didn’t happen”.
The real story is that he did build the wall, but Biden cancelled the construction before it was finished, and then sold of the remaining materials!

This how the media rewrite history on a daily basis.

Petros
Petros
December 31, 2023 6:40 am

Milei was catapulted into place to drag Argentina away from BRICS and to help keep the USD important. It won’t help his country. Argentina is a succession of socialist and capitalist government failures, each doing the thing they do best in screwing up an economy. His efforts won’t succeed. People should temper their enthusiasm. Like they did to Schwarzenegger and Trump, the entrenched bureaucrats will stymie his efforts. Another non-exciting chapter in the history of this screwed up country. There is a paucity of books about how that country went downhill. I think this is because there were bad governments from both sides and the usual Marxists cannot blame just the conservatives.

miltonf
miltonf
December 31, 2023 6:42 am

We do people bother with any legacy meja let alone pay for it?

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