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November Moonlight, John Atkinson Grimshaw, late 19th C

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thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
January 9, 2024 1:17 pm

Illegal drugs are now cheaper and more accessible than 20 years ago.

Much cheaper than a night on the piss.

Thank you tender barbed white hot acid spewing choad of government for assisting an illegal and detrimental industry to get the leg up they need to really make the profits they deserve.

Dot
Dot
January 9, 2024 1:21 pm

BREAKING: Rebel News reporter David Menzies (@TheMenzoid) was brutally arrested by police after he tried to ask Chrystia Freeland questions.

That’s so over the top. He’s a very polite, laid back, mild mannered, middle aged man.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
January 9, 2024 1:21 pm

Well done government mongs…

Made power prices high enough to remove another industry.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-01-09/alcoa-to-close-kwinana-alumina-refinery-job-losses/103295918

Big_Nambas
Big_Nambas
January 9, 2024 1:22 pm

The niceties are observed. The women are buried up to their waist after being stoned to death so their modesty is preserved.

Maybe you should read that again, he says bury them waist deep. He wants them buried deep enough to stop any necrophilia.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 9, 2024 1:26 pm

I postulated this last night …

Sancho Panzer
Jan 8, 2024 9:41 PM

My suspicion?
These were bolts without nuts, or not tightened and or lock-wired.
The panel works loose and starts sliding around until it works clear of the lugs and pops clean off.

Then, a little later …

MatrixTransform
Jan 8, 2024 11:41 PM

These were bolts without nuts, or not tightened and or lock-wired

honestly … I get a woody when sancho talks technical

Well, fast forward to this morning and what do we find?

thefrollickingmole
Jan 9, 2024 10:25 AM

Looks like the lost panel/door wasnt a one off.
Somewhere in the design or manufacture there has been a stuff up.

United Airlines finds loose bolts on multiple Boeing 737 Max 9 planes
Aircraft model has been grounded after a panel blew off an Alaska Airlines-operated plane mid-flight on Saturday

The industry publication Air Current reported that United found discrepant bolts on other parts on at least five panels that were being inspected following the accident. The US Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) and Boeing declined to comment.

“Since we began preliminary inspections on Saturday, we have found instances that appear to relate to installation issues in the door plug. For example, bolts that needed additional tightening. These findings will be remedied by our Tech Ops team to safely return the aircraft to service,” United said in a statement.

Golly, that’s really quite awkward for the God Oracle.
I am available for apologies later this afternoon and this evening.

Dot
Dot
January 9, 2024 1:27 pm

$8 – $10 minimum for a standard schooner of beer in our larger cities.

Pingers are still cheap in comparison.

cohenite
January 9, 2024 1:32 pm

Maybe you should read that again, he says bury them waist deep. He wants them buried deep enough to stop any necrophilia.

2 birds with the one stone!

Roger
Roger
January 9, 2024 1:33 pm

New French laws sponsored by Macron make welfare harder to get for migrants while making it easier for the government to deport those who choose not to integrate and respect French law. And foreign trained imams are to be banned from preaching.

This from a chap who seven years ago said there was no such thing as a unitary French culture but rather a multiplicity of cultures in France.

What explains his drift to the “extreme right”? [rhetorical!]

calli
calli
January 9, 2024 1:33 pm

I suppose Caro puts her money in the parking metre too.

Because they’re around 100 centimetres high.

calli
calli
January 9, 2024 1:35 pm

That woman makes rocks look smart.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 9, 2024 1:35 pm

$8 – $10 minimum for a standard schooner of beer in our larger cities.

$8.28 at the Paddo RSL if you’re a member.
On Friday night you might even win a meat tray in the raffles.

Not Uh oh
Not Uh oh
January 9, 2024 1:39 pm

I reckon Liz Storer got it right on Sky last night as far as the Melbourne rave, drugs fiasco goes. In essence, leave them to it and let natural selection take its course.
Couldn’t agree more. The only thing that’s been learnt from this episode is that you don’t need to worry about overdosing or a bad batch because ambos and doctors will be there in a flash to help you out. Perhaps a headline of “8 dead from illegal drugs” might be a bit more sobering. Cruel, but maybe less costly in the long-run.

132andBush
132andBush
January 9, 2024 1:40 pm

“Renewable” energy.
Too cheap to metre.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
January 9, 2024 1:42 pm

Have I got this right- ie is it a continental standard?
Pony – 140mL
Middy – 285mL
Schooner – 375mL?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 9, 2024 1:44 pm

Incidentally, mole at 10:25, I think it is a manufacturing problem in that they have two variants coming down the line (full exit door and blanked off door) and possibly the two installations are not mutually exclusive. The production line workers get confused and do a half-baked installation. This probably means some blame can be sheeted back to engineering for not considering the possibility of a “hybrid instal” if that is what happened. Mind you, nothing excuses loose (or non lock-wired) bolts if it left the factory that way.
I was struck by the term “discrepant bolts” in the linked report. This possibly means it was installed “correctly” but with the wrong gauge or wrong length bolts. There is a precedent for this back in 1990, when the windscreen blew out of a BAC 1-11 and nearly took the captain out through the hole.
Most of the 90 fixing bolts were 0.66mm too small in diameter, whilst half a dozen were the right diameter but 2.5mm too short. I’d defy anyone but the most experienced to pick that difference by eye or feel.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
January 9, 2024 1:47 pm

Sancho Panzer

I was kind of guessing maybe they didnt have a standard they were torquing the bolts to.
Similar reasoning, a bit of confusion over which one was being blanked and which would get a door.

Hugh
Hugh
January 9, 2024 1:49 pm

Schooner is 425mL.

Roger
Roger
January 9, 2024 1:50 pm

For example, bolts that needed additional tightening.

I’m not jumping to any conclusions here, but…

On the rare occasion when we have to assemble flat pack furniture (the last instance being two kitchen bench stools) my wife likes to do it, which is fine by me.

My job then is to see that all the screws are tightened to assure the structural soundness of the object, because my wife, while fit, simply doesn’t have the strength required to do so.

Is anyone following me here?

John H.
John H.
January 9, 2024 1:50 pm

shatterzzz
Jan 9, 2024 1:16 PM
Illegal drugs are now cheaper and more accessible than 20 years ago. Ordinary life or not drugs can enhance certain experiences.

I’ve no idea how much “pills” cost but with beer at upwards of $10 a schooner ( and you don’t get drunk on one .. LOL) maybe doing dope is a sight cheaper for getting high ………..!

20 years ago premium cannabis cost $350-$400 an ounce. I have been advised from 2 sources that today the same costs $280. Several years ago I sourced some LSD. $20 for a day of laughing and merriment. Nearly all cannabis today is hydro because policing drove production away from forests. I don’t know about your comparison because I rarely drink or smoke but in real terms cannabis is cheaper now than it has ever been. It doesn’t matter because people drift towards the drugs that work for them. Occasional MDMA won’t hurt anyone unless they are stupid. Sustained amphetamine use is very dangerous and the new strains of cannabis have elevated THC levels which heightens the psychosis and schizophrenia risk for teenagers. The tragedy is that there are higher THC concentrations and lower CBD concentrations. THC elevates the risk, CBD lowers the risk.

Recent news …

The teen brain is especially susceptible to the harms of THC
The amount of THC in cannabis plants is much higher than 30 years ago

JC
JC
January 9, 2024 1:51 pm

Sancho Panzer
Jan 9, 2024 1:26 PM

Sounds like the God Oracle needs a shot of Viagra after the woody comment.

Roger
Roger
January 9, 2024 1:54 pm

Have I got this right- ie is it a continental standard?

Some variation by state.

Makka
Makka
January 9, 2024 1:57 pm

The bolts should be tightened to a set torque using a torque wrench. So in theory there is no issue of sufficient strength. You get the specific bolt tension or not. Then they are locked by wire or other device or marked to show they are done.

I was interested to read Boeings mad rush into DEI over the years. Diversity displacing competence surprisingly doesn’t help you build better aircraft.

Diogenes
Diogenes
January 9, 2024 1:57 pm

Victoria in in the late 1800s came up with a scheme whereby public servants had a single member of parliament and railway workers another. They were barred from voting to for normal MLAs. I would extend that to another member for those who derive their total I come through Centrelink.

132andBush
132andBush
January 9, 2024 1:58 pm

Most of the 90 fixing bolts were 0.66mm too small in diameter, whilst half a dozen were the right diameter but 2.5mm too short. I’d defy anyone but the most experienced to pick that difference by eye or feel.

That sounds like a case of imp/metric mix up or substitution.
Is that possible? I would’ve thought everything has been standardised to metric.

Turnip
Turnip
January 9, 2024 2:00 pm

The great JPR Williams played in an era when most of the Welsh national side were names Williams or Jones – or so it seemed to this impressionable schoolboy.

Did get to see the great JPR on two occasions during the 78 tour, Vs Qld midweek, then at the Test Match. He was a little past his best and overweight compared to his prime, but to see the Wallabies win the test and the series over a group of legendary players was the start of a long love affair with the game…..which is now fading badly.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
January 9, 2024 2:01 pm

I would extend that to another member for those who derive their total I come through Centrelink.
I’ll say it…
…you’re talking Voice To Parliament, right?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 9, 2024 2:01 pm

thefrollickingmole
Jan 9, 2024 1:47 PM

Sancho Panzer

I was kind of guessing maybe they didnt have a standard they were torquing the bolts to.

It could be any number of things – over-torquing and stripping, under-torquing and working loose, wrong gauge or length bolts, omitted spacers or washers, no lock-wire where it was in the spec – who knows? It is a bit more complex than bolting an airconditioner to a platform on a rooftop.

Similar reasoning, a bit of confusion over which one was being blanked and which would get a door.

Yes, I am mystified as to why they bothered. Initially I thought it was to save weight, but the panel weighs 60 lbs, so they can’t have saved much. Why not just instal the door with some fail safe locking mechanism, remove the slide, handles and any redundant bits, and just put a panel over the interior so it can’t be mistaken for an exit in an emergency?

Diogenes
Diogenes
January 9, 2024 2:04 pm

Nope, pensioners, jobseeker, austudy, abstudy, maternity leave.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
January 9, 2024 2:06 pm

Most of the 90 fixing bolts were 0.66mm too small in diameter, whilst half a dozen were the right diameter but 2.5mm too short. I’d defy anyone but the most experienced to pick that difference by eye or feel.

That sounds like a case of imp/metric mix up or substitution.
Is that possible? I would’ve thought everything has been standardised to metric.

Well I’m all over the place when it comes to beerglasses, but I know my nuts and bolts.

Yes, I’d pick up the mismatch and short shrift immediately by feel, even if the thread didn’t bind, which in a metric-imp mismatch would happen within three laps.
But you see, I don’t use torque wrenches, or driver devices, or wear gloves, which might be their basic problem. Trying to bolt the proverbial door after the horse has flown off at ten thousand feet.

rosie
rosie
January 9, 2024 2:08 pm

Jane Caro.
Poetry in motion with meter by the metre.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 9, 2024 2:10 pm

132andBush
Jan 9, 2024 1:58 PM

Most of the 90 fixing bolts were 0.66mm too small in diameter, whilst half a dozen were the right diameter but 2.5mm too short. I’d defy anyone but the most experienced to pick that difference by eye or feel.

That sounds like a case of imp/metric mix up or substitution.
Is that possible? I would’ve thought everything has been standardised to metric.

Good God, man!
It’s a British Aircraft Corporation jet.
British.
There’ll be none of that dreadful Frog metric nonsense anywhere near our aeroplanes, thank you very much.
I watched a doco on Concorde recently. Every single hand produced drawing had to be done in duplicate – one metric and one imperial. The thing should have been dubbed “Discorde”.
I think if the Japs were building airliners, you would see just what you are hinting at … a rationalisation of the number of fasteners used in any design to avoid just this problem.
Of course, it is unavoidable in maintenance shops with all manner of aircraft types coming and going. That is why you don’t want your typical Bunnings customer anywhere near aircraft panstock on the floor, with their habit of grabbing bits out of loose product bins and throwing them back just anywhere.

Roger
Roger
January 9, 2024 2:13 pm

The bolts should be tightened to a set torque using a torque wrench. So in theory there is no issue of sufficient strength.

In theory, no. But an ability to read & use a torque wrench properly, certainly.

Why do I fear the worst? DEI.

JC
JC
January 9, 2024 2:15 pm

Sanchez

Describe the problem to me in this way.

Is this a fundamental engineering problem or some idiot on the production line forgot to tighten the bolts and the supervisor never checked, in which case it’s not a major issue?

The stock is down 8%.

JC
JC
January 9, 2024 2:16 pm

Why do I fear the worst? DEI.

If DEI is on the production line, you only want to travel on planes pre-DEI. DEI wants to kill people now.

JC
JC
January 9, 2024 2:18 pm

One thing about the nuke issue in the US. I distinctly recall Trump requesting a complete revamp of the nuclear stockpile to ensure everything was up to date. Did this not happen?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 9, 2024 2:20 pm

Makka
Jan 9, 2024 1:57 PM

The bolts should be tightened to a set torque using a torque wrench. So in theory there is no issue of sufficient strength. You get the specific bolt tension or not. Then they are locked by wire or other device or marked to show they are done.

I was interested to read Boeings mad rush into DEI over the years. Diversity displacing competence surprisingly doesn’t help you build better aircraft.

Yeah, no-one is suggesting material failure of properly installed kit here, although “low cycle fatigue” can be a thing.
If there was a locking bolt on the door closure mechanism, you can almost guarantee it would call up the full lock-wire treatment.
Apparently they just cancelled a yuuuge management conference and called a company wide safety briefing. The agenda for the management love-in would make for interesting reading. It’s a bit like hyphenated Optus lady. You can bet network security and stability, and contingency plans for recovery didn’t get much of a run in management meetings.

Makka
Makka
January 9, 2024 2:26 pm

In theory, no. But an ability to read & use a torque wrench properly, certainly.

Why do I fear the worst? DEI.

Yep., DEI And in many critical locations like these doors and window frames, re-using bolts is a no-no. Bolts stretch and weaken with torque settings so fresh bolts after each removal is mandatory. It will be in the item/part fitment instructions- assuming one comprehends English?

Bespoke
Bespoke
January 9, 2024 2:30 pm

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Jan 9, 2024 9:41 AM

But how would you arrange things otherwise and still be democratic?
A property or taxpayers franchise existed once, but those excluded felt voiceless and argued for a franchise extension. Do we go back to there again? Tinkering with who is in and who is out is very dangerous. Imagine the left deciding only ‘educated’ people could vote, wish I’ve heard some of them push for

A very rationable comment. 9/10

Makka
Makka
January 9, 2024 2:33 pm

Bolts stretch and weaken with torque settings so fresh bolts after each removal is mandatory.

* The material grade and surface finish of the bolt will also be carefully specified. It’s not just any old bolt!

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 9, 2024 2:36 pm

JC
Jan 9, 2024 2:15 PM

Sanchez

Describe the problem to me in this way.

Is this a fundamental engineering problem

Not directly but, as I was discussing with mole, the introduction of two installation variants (full exit door and blanked off option) it could be seen as poor engineering as it compromised “manufacturability”. Engineers are pushed more and more now to look at safety in operation, manufacturability and maintainability.

or some idiot on the production line forgot to tighten the bolts and the supervisor never checked,

This is more likely.

in which case it’s not a major issue?

It is if you are sitting in 26A. This is what is bothering me. They are looking specifically at the door instal, but we already know there have been problems with loose bolts in the rudder. What tells them that poor workmanship is contained to a small crew working on this door instal. Incidentally, I think the rudder is produced at a different plant to the fuselage section containing the door. I think they are avoiding considering the possibility of widespread shoddiness because the consequences for Boeing would be catastrophic.

The stock is down 8%.

Watch this space. Many airline customers up until now have been indifferent about aircraft type when making a booking, but some in the US were positively disposed towards flying Boeing.
I think, as far as the MAX goes, we will see a slightly different variant of the old “If it ain’t Boeing. I ain’t going” mantra.

calli
calli
January 9, 2024 2:36 pm

Enter Jane Caro….

It’s a talk wrench you fools!

Salvatore, Iron Publican
January 9, 2024 2:38 pm

It’s a talk wrench you fools!

er.. it is pronounced: “talk ranch”

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 9, 2024 2:38 pm

This plane was only delivered in October.
I doubt re-use of second hand bolts is a factor.

calli
calli
January 9, 2024 2:38 pm

Bloody cowboys!

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
January 9, 2024 2:39 pm

Thanks Wolfman for the BaaBaas clip.
Through misty eyes and a fondness for the old days, I saw scrums that were quickly over, running at pace into gaps, toe kickers, great backing up, dockyard brawls (aka line outs), and a mere tap on the back after the greatest try ever scored.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 9, 2024 2:42 pm

Jane Caro is a talk wench?

alwaysright
alwaysright
January 9, 2024 2:43 pm

Jane Caro is a talk wench?
Mitre Bean.

Pogria
Pogria
January 9, 2024 2:45 pm
Makka
Makka
January 9, 2024 2:47 pm

I doubt re-use of second hand bolts is a factor.

Probably not. But during fitment sometimes things don’t go right and the part needs removal and refitting. Which may mean owning up to a fck up. If so, were those bolts replaced/reused?

Did the QA checker actually check, or was it a tick and flick because her had to get home to watch America’s Got Talent?

This is speculation on my part. But I’ve had quite a bit of experience with human hands and things mechanical going pear shaped- here and in developing countries. I’d be betting on the human error cause rather than Boeing design or specifications.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
January 9, 2024 2:47 pm

the introduction of two installation variants (full exit door and blanked off option)

Feculating* here…
Might door install bolts be different to blank install – but not different enough??

*speculating – but with no evidence

JC
JC
January 9, 2024 2:49 pm

On second thoughts, all aircraft are rooted with DEI, because it would be happening on the maintenance lines too.

We’re all dead.

Apparently there is very little riveting that goes on with the Dreamliner as the outer shell is fastened/ attached onto the inner skin with glue. It should work, but only if the process is followed closely without any shortcuts. And no shortcuts!

I asked a pal about this who completed a PhD in “corrosion” at MIT. I asked him if he considered it safe. His response was that he didn’t really know but there hasn’t been an issue with those 787’s entering the second decade. How about the 13th year then?

Sounds comforting.

JC
JC
January 9, 2024 2:53 pm

The president of the United States said this

Biden: “A home owned by a black family on one side of a highway, built by the same builder on the other side of the highway, and a white guy living in it, the white guy’s home is valued more than the black guy’s.”

How does he know? He just knows because he’s a real estate valuer. FMD.

Indolent
Indolent
January 9, 2024 2:53 pm
Lysander
Lysander
January 9, 2024 2:54 pm

Honest question: What’s going on with the tunnels found in NY?

https://forward.com/fast-forward/575528/arrests-at-chabad-770-secret-tunnel/

duncanm
duncanm
January 9, 2024 2:54 pm

But an ability to read & use a torque wrench properly, certainly.

Racist!

Bespoke
Bespoke
January 9, 2024 2:55 pm

Pogria
Jan 9, 2024 2:45 PM
Dad showed unbelievable restraint.

What if the claim is not true?
Evan true the dad could be facing serious jail time.

Indolent
Indolent
January 9, 2024 2:58 pm
Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 9, 2024 2:59 pm

thefrollickingmole
Jan 9, 2024 2:47 PM

the introduction of two installation variants (full exit door and blanked off option)

Feculating* here…
Might door install bolts be different to blank install – but not different enough??

That crossed my mind too.
They have been remarkably coy about this “blank” instal.
Or maybe they’ve explained it, but reporters are too dim to get it.

Kneel
Kneel
January 9, 2024 3:02 pm

“I was kind of guessing maybe they didnt have a standard they were torquing the bolts to.”

Given that fastener failure is catastrophic, I’d be inclined towards a “belt and braces” approach myself – loctited nylock nuts wired/split-pinned in place.

Indolent
Indolent
January 9, 2024 3:02 pm
Winston Smith
January 9, 2024 3:04 pm

Illegal drugs are now cheaper and more accessible than 20 years ago. Ordinary life or not drugs can enhance certain experiences. There is no easy solution to this problem. People get drunk and become violent, people take drugs and do stupid things. Most people are sensible. How much must we ban to protect the sensible people from the morons?

First off, I’d like to see the workplace laws that apply to us, applied to the politicians and bureaucrats who frame and pass these laws.
Mandatory drug testing for all of them.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 9, 2024 3:07 pm

Apparently there is very little riveting that goes on with the Dreamliner as the outer shell is fastened/ attached onto the inner skin with glue. It should work, but only if the process is followed closely without any shortcuts. And no shortcuts!

Feathered lap joints and glue.
Makes it more quieter.

I asked a pal about this who completed a PhD in “corrosion” at MIT. I asked him if he considered it safe. His response was that he didn’t really know but there hasn’t been an issue with those 787’s entering the second decade. How about the 13th year then?

Very circumspect of him to say “I don’t know”.
As the use of composite moves from fairings etc to structural airframe components, I wonder if we will see what we saw in the 50’s and 60’s with metal fatigue. One example on the 737MAX. The engine intakes are composite and prone to overheating if the anti-ice is left on for more than five minutes in dry conditions.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 9, 2024 3:08 pm

Kneel
Jan 9, 2024 3:02 PM

“I was kind of guessing maybe they didnt have a standard they were torquing the bolts to.”

Given that fastener failure is catastrophic, I’d be inclined towards a “belt and braces” approach myself – loctited nylock nuts wired/split-pinned in place.

Welding is the answer.

Winston Smith
January 9, 2024 3:10 pm

Roger

Jan 9, 2024 1:33 PM
This from a chap who seven years ago said there was no such thing as a unitary French culture but rather a multiplicity of cultures in France.
What explains his drift to the “extreme right”? [rhetorical!]

The prospect of being removed from the gravy train?

Zatara
Zatara
January 9, 2024 3:11 pm

Tunnel Discovered under 770 Chabad Center in Crown Heights – December 24, 2023

CrownHeights.info speculated that a group of Yeshiva men who had been locked out of 770 during the COVID pandemic decided to dig their way in, literally. Working at night, the men dug the tunnel from the Mikvah building all the way to 770, where it stretched under the Kingston Ave women’s section.

The tunnel was discovered some three weeks ago.

alwaysright
alwaysright
January 9, 2024 3:12 pm

Tightening nuts?

The answer is cold water.

Kneel
Kneel
January 9, 2024 3:14 pm

“But I’ve had quite a bit of experience with human hands and things mechanical going pear shaped…”

Rule #1: when things go wrong, the first place to look for the reason is the last place touched by human hands.
Rule #2: measure with micrometer, mark with chalk, cut with axe (ie, give yourself a couple of orders of magnitude “head room” for mistakes if at all possible).
Rule #3: Murphy was an optimist.

Makka
Makka
January 9, 2024 3:16 pm

Welding is the answer.

Not if you want to disassemble it later or not fry something in the vicinity. Besides, many of these fasteners are just too small for anything like welding in place.

Don’t know the veracity of this;

@zerohedge
Alaska Airlines says that initial reports from its technicians indicate some loose hardware was visible on some aircraft from its 737-9 Max fleet after accessing the area in question

Hardware= fasteners, nuts, bolts.

Winston Smith
January 9, 2024 3:18 pm

Roger
Jan 9, 2024 1:50 PM

For example, bolts that needed additional tightening.
I’m not jumping to any conclusions here, but…
On the rare occasion when we have to assemble flat pack furniture (the last instance being two kitchen bench stools) my wife likes to do it, which is fine by me.
My job then is to see that all the screws are tightened to assure the structural soundness of the object, because my wife, while fit, simply doesn’t have the strength required to do so.
Is anyone following me here?

Yes Roger. You are a sexist pig and will go to manexplain Hell for daring to say that your partner is incapable of of doing… something.
🙂

Cassie of Sydney
January 9, 2024 3:19 pm

Hopefully he will fade into oblivion and people like Craig Kelly etc stay away from having anything to do with him.

Agree, it’s funny how some go down rabbit holes. And since 7 October the rabbit holes have gotten deeper. Avi alluded to this recently when he said that some on the fringe right, such as Cossack, are now dancing with open Jew haters, and that there’s a fusion of the far-right and far-left when it comes to Jew hatred. Not surprising. The far-right and the far-left always merge because they are the same, they are racist, they are totalitarian, they are bigoted, and they are deeply, deeply anti-Semitic.

Another rabbit hole dweller is James Delingpole. It’s sad because I used to like James but apparently he is now spruiking the Khazar theory.

But for all the lunatics on the fringe and far-right, few of them are as dangerous as the lunatics on the fringe far-left and not so far left, yet those unsavoury lunatics are always given a free pass. And when various Labor politicians cosy up to those lunatics and be pictured smiling with them, and there is never any blowback. Sleazy always catches up with his good buddy, the homicidal Hamas supporting Jew hating cockroach Jeremy Corbyn when in London, our own foreign minister, Senator Peanut Wonk, is happy to be pictured with a very unsavoury cockroach by the name of Nasser Mashni. I’ll end by saying that, in 2024, it isn’t One Nation, UAP or other minor fringe right-wing parties that are the modern day equivalent of the Nazi Party, it is the Greens. The Greens are a Nazi Party, filled with Nazis.

JC
JC
January 9, 2024 3:19 pm

Loose nuts doesn’t appear to be just a problem with plane hatches. Blogs too.

Indolent
Indolent
January 9, 2024 3:20 pm
MatrixTransform
January 9, 2024 3:20 pm

I postulated this last night …

sancho seriously, are you like some sort of aviation Nostradamus?

who would have thought that things attached to an aircraft that should be bolted, glued, riveted etc

and look at you knowing the unknowable with such incredible accuracy

The Cat has a truly visionary technical genius here

I am available for apologies later this afternoon and this evening.

honestly you should apologise to the forum for being a perpetual tosser

Lysander
Lysander
January 9, 2024 3:20 pm

Millions of fish swimming to shore in the Philippines:

https://twitter.com/BGatesIsaPyscho/status/1744135334827356413

slackster
slackster
January 9, 2024 3:22 pm

Lysander
Jan 9, 2024 2:54 PM
Honest question: What’s going on with the tunnels found in NY?

Video footage I found online about it has already been deleted
2 snippets of it here though :

https://imgur.com/a/t9BZvQv

JC
JC
January 9, 2024 3:23 pm

Obviously, even the Viagra has worn off now.

Going totally Lower case is a sign you once worked for Google as a senior software engineer.

Winston Smith
January 9, 2024 3:24 pm

Whatever the reason for the stuffup with the door/no door, at the end, you will find somewhere hidden in the washup will be an act of human stupidity that will make the provision of windows in a submarine look like a genius move.

JC
JC
January 9, 2024 3:25 pm

Lysander
Jan 9, 2024 2:54 PM
Honest question: What’s going on with the tunnels found in NY?

Dudes apparently built the tunnel for access to the .. gogue during lockdowns.

Boambee John
Boambee John
January 9, 2024 3:25 pm

JC
Jan 9, 2024 2:18 PM
One thing about the nuke issue in the US. I distinctly recall Trump requesting a complete revamp of the nuclear stockpile to ensure everything was up to date. Did this not happen?

It could be another case where Thoroughly Modern Milley thought he knew better? Or he preferred to divert the money into DEI?

Dot
Dot
January 9, 2024 3:30 pm

I’m certain that for local government elections we should have voluntary voting, qualification by property and one vote per title, corporations nominate an elector.

Most people don’t want to vote in said elections. Much grumbling after it became compulsory in NSW.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
January 9, 2024 3:30 pm

That woman makes rocks look smart.

Jane Caro went to ‘University’ at a newly converted dairy farm, so newly converted one could still smell the cowshit — old habits die hard

Dot
Dot
January 9, 2024 3:31 pm

It’s not anti democratic anyway if you recognise shires are just a State government department.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 9, 2024 3:32 pm

Have the LAMEs (or whatever they are called over there) at United and Alaska Airlines been told that finding loose nuts and validating Sancho’s theory could be triggering for God Oracle aircon installers?

Katzenjammer
Katzenjammer
January 9, 2024 3:34 pm

20 years ago premium cannabis cost $350-$400 an ounce. I have been advised from 2 sources that today the same costs $280.

It was £16 an ounce in the mid ’60s. Why isn’t it by metric weights – legacy cultural inertia?

JC
JC
January 9, 2024 3:34 pm

It could be another case where Thoroughly Modern Milley thought he knew better? Or he preferred to divert the money into DEI?

Could be, as anything is possible these days. I recall him making as issue of revamping and fortifying the stockpile early on in his presidency.

Dot
Dot
January 9, 2024 3:35 pm

As for the suffragettes vs the suffragists:

Before any splits, the mainstream, violent group in GB could get up to 60,000 – 300,000 attendees at a rally.

The competition post split, such as the “Mud Rally”: 3,000.

The suffragists were totally marginalised by the terroristic suffragettes.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
January 9, 2024 3:35 pm

Jane Caro.
Poetry in motion with meter by the metre.

Anyone able to see the X-factor responses to Caro’s X-metre/meter comment?

Dot
Dot
January 9, 2024 3:37 pm

I’d rather go to a cow uni than some place where people huff their own ablutions wondering if blue and green are the same colour.

However, on further investigation, they’re all remarkably similar.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
January 9, 2024 3:38 pm

Nice justice system youve got, shame if anything happened to it.

FreeDanDuggan
@FreeDanDuggan
Day 442. We can now reveal the horrific twist, worthy of Franz Kafka, behind the NSW Corrrection Commissioner has turned down #FreeDanDuggan’s bid to be moved from maximum security, solitary confinement to home detention.

“Given you have not been sentenced or charged with an offence under a Commonwealth or State law of Australia, home detention or its equivalent is not an option”.

This is clearly at odds with the assumptions of Australia’s criminal justice system – the presumption of innocence, thne right to a fair trial. So it is imperative that the Extradition Act is reviewed and reshaped.

John H.
John H.
January 9, 2024 3:38 pm

Lysander
Jan 9, 2024 3:20 PM
Millions of fish swimming to shore in the Philippines:

https://twitter.com/BGatesIsaPyscho/status/1744135334827356413

A few weeks ago the same thing happened in Japan. Weird. Quick look: it is happening in a number of places.

JC
JC
January 9, 2024 3:40 pm

Another wonderful example of postwar British immigration to Australia. Lying Slapper is another example.

Early life and education
Caro was born in London in 1957 and emigrated to Australia with her parents as a five-year-old in 1963. She attended Macquarie University, where she graduated with a Bachelor of Arts with a major in English literature in 1977.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
January 9, 2024 3:41 pm

Thancho, I looked at the photo of the insert that is bolted on the inside. The bolts look like they are in counterbored holes therefore not able to see if they have washers or not. Everything else being equal for that insert to come loose the panel has to vibrate which means there is too much clearance. The panel is not a structural part as it only fills an existing doorway. Maybe used the wrong sort of elastomer for sealing allowing the panel to move. 2 weeks for catastrophic failure, it has to stick out like dogs balls.

John H.
John H.
January 9, 2024 3:44 pm

Katzenjammer
Jan 9, 2024 3:34 PM
20 years ago premium cannabis cost $350-$400 an ounce. I have been advised from 2 sources that today the same costs $280.

It was £16 an ounce in the mid ’60s. Why isn’t it by metric weights – legacy cultural inertia?

There was a band from a bikie group that made no secret about their trade: Weighed Oz. Whatever, aircraft are still using the imperial measure for altitude. And why still knots for naval measurement?

John H.
John H.
January 9, 2024 3:45 pm

JC
Jan 9, 2024 3:40 PM
Another wonderful example of postwar British immigration to Australia. Lying Slapper is another example.

Early life and education
Caro was born in London in 1957 and emigrated to Australia with her parents as a five-year-old in 1963. She attended Macquarie University, where she graduated with a Bachelor of Arts with a major in English literature in 1977.

Poster girl for the dangers of unchecked immigration.

JC
JC
January 9, 2024 3:46 pm

John H.

Is there something going on with the earth’s magnetic field confusing the little fckers and sending them off into orbit?

JC
JC
January 9, 2024 3:49 pm

Trump weighs in on Mark Cuban in his unique fashion.

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
·
Apr 6, 2014
Major League Baseball was really smart when they wouldn’t let Mark Cuban buy a team. Was it his financials or the fact that he’s an asshole?

John H.
John H.
January 9, 2024 3:52 pm

JC
Jan 9, 2024 3:46 PM
John H.

Is there something going on with the earth’s magnetic field confusing the little fckers and sending them off into orbit?

If it were that we’d be seeing a lot of confused birds. I’m unaware that fish can use magnetic fields for navigation. Many migrating birds use magnetic fields however they don’t always solely relying on magnetic fields. The mechanics is remarkable, suggesting quantum spin effects are in play. Many argue that is the case. I’m doubtful but too ignorant to analyse.

Also, humans would be reporting anomalous compass readings.

Winston Smith
January 9, 2024 3:54 pm

What is it with people and tunnels?
Is it a craze, or just a passing fad?
I think I’ll dig a tunnel to my garage.
Why?
Oh, I dunno. But everybody is doing it, so why not?

Someone ask The Frolicking Moll – he should know.

calli
calli
January 9, 2024 3:54 pm

She attended Macquarie University, where she graduated with a Bachelor of Arts with a major in English literature in 1977.

Could have been me. I got married instead and knuckled down to paying off a mortgage. I’ve never been tempted to shout anything about abortions, except my disgust.

And…oddly enough, I know the difference between meter and metre, and all the strange permutations thereof. 😀

Frank
Frank
January 9, 2024 4:10 pm

Dad showed unbelievable restraint.

Shot once in the stomach and twice in the legs. Reading between the lines it seems as though he took out the stepdad’s tackle.

rosie
rosie
January 9, 2024 4:13 pm

Translation in short: They curse Hamas. The man who mostly speaks says that he had waited for 17 years, Hamas didn’t allow him to receive medications, and he saw children die of hunger because of them. In the end, a soldier asks who’s fault was it, and they all answer Hamas

Doesn’t make these men civilians btw.
As suggested before hamas was cool when you could kill and rape civilians and 19 year old unarmed idf observers.

so many hospitals but no access to medication.

Winston Smith
January 9, 2024 4:15 pm

https://twitter.com/i/status/1744135334827356413
I’d be looking a bit further out to sea, and try to find what’s chasing those fish onto the beach.
But no. It’s got to be climate change.

Tom
Tom
January 9, 2024 4:16 pm

An excellent Japanese-produced documentary on the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, featuring survivors on the ground and the reflections of the American servicemen involved on the use of nuclear weapons. I expect t will be replayed on Fox Docos.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 9, 2024 4:18 pm

Honest question: What’s going on with the tunnels found in NY?

I saw the story in December, but didn’t mention it as it was hard to work out what it was about. But I’ll put that one up as it was it had a particularly interesting twist.

Outrage in Chabad: Tunnel discovered under Chabad Headquarters (24 Dec)

The tunnel had been dug for several months at least, as Chabad suspects that several men are responsible for the digging that began during the Covid-19 pandemic, in order to enter a building that was locked.

Others in Chabad claim that the tunnel was dug during the last year by a number of Mexican workers.

Mexican workers?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 9, 2024 4:19 pm

GreyRanga
Jan 9, 2024 3:41 PM

Thancho, I looked at the photo of the insert that is bolted on the inside. The bolts look like they are in counterbored holes therefore not able to see if they have washers or not. Everything else being equal for that insert to come loose the panel has to vibrate which means there is too much clearance. The panel is not a structural part as it only fills an existing doorway. Maybe used the wrong sort of elastomer for sealing allowing the panel to move. 2 weeks for catastrophic failure, it has to stick out like dogs balls.

Looking at the photo last night on my grubby phone through my Shell-shop 1.5+ glasses I found it difficult to figure out what they were. The sketchy photos of the hole in the fuselage were even worse. Looking on my compuda this morning I wondered if those lugs were stop fittings on the doors and stop pads on the airframe, where the door rolls closed the pushes up about 2″ so the fittings align with the pads.
Whatever it is, it now seems apparent that the thing was either very badly fastened or not fastened at all.
Of itself, this is a relatively small thing (as it fortunately didn’t result in death or injury), but coupled with all the other 737MAX cock-ups and cover-ups, it could be the last straw.
Good luck with the 737MAX-10 certification. It was scheduled for late 2024 with deliveries 2025. I reckon the FAA will now do what Boeing was trying to avoid with the MAX. That is, run it through the full certification process as if it was a brand new aircraft design, not a variant on the old one.
And then comes the sting.
Much of the stuff coming out of the 10 certification will be mandated back on earlier MAX variants.
What started out as an attempt to blindside the FAA into a tick-box “minor variation of existing” certification could end up in the biggest field retrofit campaign evah.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 9, 2024 4:20 pm

Honest question: What’s going on with the tunnels found in NY?

Do they lead to a pizza shop?
Are there red shoes?
Has anyone checked reports of missing children?

alwaysright
alwaysright
January 9, 2024 4:23 pm

I’d be looking a bit further out to sea, and try to find what’s chasing those fish onto the beach.

I have seen whiting beach themselves trying to avoid dolphins.

Vicki
Vicki
January 9, 2024 4:30 pm

Husband and I hold firmly to the view that we are all “tribal” – even in our suburban environments. We have just returned from looking after daughter’s abode & animals on the northern beaches of Sydney. We remarked upon the general friendliness, and, of course, the relaxed lifestyle of the locals. I would rarely walk the dog without some friendly greetings and short conversation with a local. This contrasts with the smile, but little else, from the area where we live. Of course, we meet regularly with friends locally, but I am talking about the openness of complete strangers.

This has caught my attention, as Brett Weinstein (evolutionary biologist) has just written a book about the social isolation of modern man in the post industrial age and the crisis in social communications that is growing. This is an overview of his book, “A Hunter- Gatherer’s Guide to the 21st Century”:

For evolutionary biologists Heather Heying and Bret Weinstein, the cause of our woes is clear: the modern world is out of sync with our ancient brains and bodies. We evolved to live in clans, but today most people don’t even know their neighbors’ names. Survival in our earliest societies depended on leveraging the advantages of our sex differences, but today even the concept of biological sex is increasingly dismissed as offensive. The cognitive dissonance spawned by trying to live in a society we’re not built for is killing us.

Winston Smith
January 9, 2024 4:31 pm

alwaysright

Jan 9, 2024 4:23 PM
I’d be looking a bit further out to sea, and try to find what’s chasing those fish onto the beach.

I have seen whiting beach themselves trying to avoid dolphins.

My concern would be sharks.

Zatara
Zatara
January 9, 2024 4:31 pm

I recall him making as issue of revamping and fortifying the stockpile early on in his presidency.

JC

No reason to think they weren’t. Or that the US nuclear weapon stockpile is in poor condition. Outdated or shelf-life expired nukes are decommissioned all the time.

What failed operational test last Nov was a Minuteman III missile. A 50 year old delivery system, not a nuclear weapon. It was launched to determine how it, and its 450 operational brethren, are aging. The Minuteman IIIs are scheduled to be replaced by the LGM-35 Sentinel missile and this test helped determine the urgency of the replacement.

US Air Force sees $96 billion overhaul of nuclear missile arsenal

Another thing to keep in mind is that the USAF silo based missiles are but one means of nuke delivery by the US. Others range from land launched cruise missiles, to submarine launched ballistic missiles, aircraft delivered bombs, even long range artillery.

The nukes are alright.

John H.
John H.
January 9, 2024 4:34 pm

Winston Smith
Jan 9, 2024 4:15 PM
https://twitter.com/i/status/1744135334827356413
I’d be looking a bit further out to sea, and try to find what’s chasing those fish onto the beach.
But no. It’s got to be climate change.

It is happening in many places and it is relatively new. It isn’t just a few schools of fish. To confirm predators we’d need to see a big increase in predator numbers to account for what is now happening from Texas to Japan to the Philippines. Given the geographic spread predation appears unlikely. Certainly wasn’t the case for Lake Macquarie and Menindee.

I don’t know what it is. We need to wait for more information. At this point we are guessing.

rosie
rosie
January 9, 2024 4:35 pm

Tunnel started during covid and apparently a way to beat the limit on the number of people in the synagogue at any time.
Certainly has brought out the antisemitics on twitter.
Blood libels too numerous to mention.
And honestly the virulent anti Semites complaining Jews don’t like them…

John Brumble
John Brumble
January 9, 2024 4:36 pm

The bolts should be tightened to a set torque using a torque wrench

Lol. Should… but

“I lost my wrench, can I use that one” (different torque setting). Don’t tell anyone.

“I can’t finish until we meet our quota, I’ll give you a have doing your job with the wrench from my job”. Don’t tell anyone.

“If you twiddle this knob, it doesn’t hurt your wrist as much and/or it’s faster”. Don’t tell anyone.

“We go in trouble for not tightening enough, let’s hear that hammering”. Don’t tell anyone.

“If I spend time doing actual QA, I get blame from my work mates.” Don’t tell anyone.

But mostly “I fk’d up, the most important thing is that no one finds out it was my fault.”

Oh and… don’t tell anyone.

billie
billie
January 9, 2024 4:37 pm

Katzenjammer
Jan 9, 2024 3:34 PM

….. Why isn’t it by metric weights – legacy cultural inertia?

Takes longer to say, “twenty eight point four grams” than “an ounce”, perhaps they were a tad lazy and mostly wasted.

Mind you, some folks back in the day embraced the metric system with a 25 gram = 1 ounce conversion.

So they say ….

MatrixTransform
January 9, 2024 4:41 pm

I have seen whiting beach themselves trying to avoid dolphins

Port Albert, standing on a jetty and watching a whirlpool form in the water …maybe a few across
a minute later mullet start jumping free of the water in the middle of the vortex
shortly followed y dolphins

another time we sat in a boat in the boat off Altona and watched a perfectly calm sea instantaneously boil with fish breaking the surface
gawd knows what was under there
Couta maybe?
we used to troll for them as kids with a paravane off Rosebud foreshore

John H.
John H.
January 9, 2024 4:42 pm

Vicki
Jan 9, 2024 4:30 PM
Husband and I hold firmly to the view that we are all “tribal” – even in our suburban environments.
….

It is innate in us. It can documented sociologically, in primatology, politics, history, psychology, and neuroscience.

I previously referenced an idea espoused by Sapolsky. He noted that the primary drive of danger arises from a nucleus in the brain, the amygdala. That is only part of the picture. I can’t explain this quickly so I won’t. Sapolsky also mentioned the inhibitory function of the DLPFC. From a hominine evolutionary perspective that raises interesting questions about the key drivers that led to homo sapiens. Hint: it isn’t intelligence, it is inhibition of latent primate and mammalian behavior patterns. When people reference stone age brains they need to brush up on their understanding of evolution from habilis onwards.

MatrixTransform
January 9, 2024 4:42 pm

a few metres across

P
P
January 9, 2024 4:44 pm

Catholics at risk of losing understanding about humanity, says Christopher West

West, founder of the Theology of the Body Institute, which enlightens Catholics on the spiritual teachings of St Pope John Paul II, says that the modern misunderstanding that the body and mind are separate is the root cause of many social culture wars to date.

“When we take that for granted in anthropology, that I am really a thinking thing, housed in human flesh, the body becomes something I think about, something I dissect, something I manipulate, but I no longer identify the body as myself,” he said.

“When we rupture identity from the body, ‘I think, therefore I am’ eventually becomes, “I think, therefore I am whatever I think I am.”

Bespoke
Bespoke
January 9, 2024 4:46 pm

The nukes are alright.

Really?
But owe ’embedid’ war correspondent and Nuclear weapon expert isn’t so sure.

MatrixTransform
January 9, 2024 4:46 pm

what is now happening from Texas to Japan to the Philippines

citations please

Certainly wasn’t the case for Lake Macquarie and Menindee

almost certainly wasn’t El Nino

John Brumble
John Brumble
January 9, 2024 4:50 pm

Metres, metres.

Reminds me of the joke about measuring the height of a building with a barometer.

“Oh dear maintenance man, I will give you this valuable barometer if you tell me the height of this building.”

JC
JC
January 9, 2024 4:52 pm

Others range from land launched cruise missiles, to submarine launched ballistic missiles, aircraft delivered bombs, even long range artillery.

Long range artillery is in battle field nukes, right?

I suspected the story going around was crap.

MatrixTransform
January 9, 2024 4:54 pm

Looking at the photo last night on my grubby phone through my Shell-shop 1.5+ glasses I found it difficult to figure out what they were.

LoL … luckily the crystal ball still works fine eh?

my comment last night numb-nuts, wasn’t “criticism” … it was preemptive ridicule

seriously sancho, look at yourself writing the bleeding obvious into a day-long wank-narrative

geez, you sound smarter almost every time you post

Zatara
Zatara
January 9, 2024 4:54 pm

Long range artillery is in battle field nukes, right?

Tactical as compared to strategic yes.

John H.
John H.
January 9, 2024 4:59 pm

JC
Jan 9, 2024 4:52 PM
Others range from land launched cruise missiles, to submarine launched ballistic missiles, aircraft delivered bombs, even long range artillery.

Long range artillery is in battle field nukes, right?

I suspected the story going around was crap.

JC way back in the 50’s the USA conceptualized a nuclear cruise missile powered by a nuke engine that could lay waste to regions simply by flying over them. SLAM missile. They tested the engine but decided not to go ahead because that missile could fly for months if not years, could not be intercepted, and they didn’t want to escalate the nuke proliferation. A couple of years back Russia claimed to have built such a missile. We don’t know if they succeeded but hey only took ’em half a century to catch up. Sandboxx news has an article up about an new nuke the US has developed.

https://www.sandboxx.us/news/us-announces-development-of-powerful-new-nuclear-bomb/

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 9, 2024 5:00 pm

JC at 3:40

Another wonderful example of postwar British immigration to Australia. Lying Slapper is another example.

A lot of Poms haven’t moved much beyond Upstairs Downstairs and Are You Being Served.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 9, 2024 5:05 pm

The most positive thing you could say about Jane Caro is you’re not married to her and she usually appears with an “Off” button. That’s two things actually.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
January 9, 2024 5:11 pm

Someone asked for the Jane Carosene thread where she metered her meter.
https://twitter.com/JaneCaro/status/1744456154233872472

Johnny Rotten
January 9, 2024 5:12 pm

Another wonderful example of postwar British immigration to Australia.

Yes. The Bee Gees, Olivia Neutron Bomb, Bon Scott, Angus and Malcolm Young and others.

Also Tony Abbott. I don’t count Juliar Gizzard for obvious reasons. LOL.

And all those on the First Fleet including all the other waves of migration that arrived after that. Lots and lots of them.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 9, 2024 5:12 pm

Re the fish, if you search ‘mackerel chasing whitebait’ you’ll see a fair number of videos very like that one in the Philippines.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
January 9, 2024 5:16 pm

I reckon if you were unlucky enough to be in a shout with Albo and Blackout you’d find them “too cheap to meter”
Most pollies go into public life to avoid ever having to pick up the tab.
Maaaaates rates.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 9, 2024 5:17 pm

Can we return Tony Abbott if we don’t have the receipt?

JC
JC
January 9, 2024 5:19 pm

First Fleet was obviously post WW2.

The freaking horror stories of limey shop stewards ruining the country in the 70s was a nightmare.

John H.
John H.
January 9, 2024 5:22 pm

Bruce of Newcastle
Jan 9, 2024 5:12 PM
Re the fish, if you search ‘mackerel chasing whitebait’ you’ll see a fair number of videos very like that one in the Philippines.

In the Japan event it was mackerel washing up. .6 miles of wash up by predation? One researcher in the fisheries said he had never witnessed that before.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 9, 2024 5:28 pm

Not forgetting the Tories irradiating the lower classes milk.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
January 9, 2024 5:29 pm

The freaking horror stories of limey shop stewards ruining the country in the 70s was a nightmare.

The usual “strike at Christmas” stories were usually bookended by some potato nosed Shreck sounding “mind mah tea” mong intoning why they needed 30% pay rise right now.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 9, 2024 5:32 pm

And young Julia listening to tales of life “Down pit” around the kitchen table in Radelaide before setting up the typewriter to bang out the latest Communist Party newsletter as a humble typist.

JC
JC
January 9, 2024 5:36 pm

The usual “strike at Christmas” stories were usually bookended by some potato nosed Shreck sounding “mind mah tea” mong intoning why they needed 30% pay rise right now.

Looking back, it resembled a commie takeover.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 9, 2024 5:37 pm

… some potato nosed Shreck sounding “mind mah tea” mong …

Sure you’re not thinking of an Australian Senate committee hearing?

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 9, 2024 5:42 pm
Barking Toad
Barking Toad
January 9, 2024 5:50 pm

Back in the day it was 4oz, 6oz, 8oz if you were a lair. 10oz if you were full on bignoter.

In the ladies lounge 4oz shandies were the go. And a back up sherry if the old man wasn’t looking from the front bar.

Front bar you drank from a 6oz glass. And kept the same glass. Filled up from a gun – not the bullshit tap business.

And i know that from serving it.

duncanm
duncanm
January 9, 2024 5:52 pm

Have seen schools of bait fish avoiding tuna and other predators plenty of times. I’m sure anyone who’s spent time on the water can recall similar sightings.

I’d be betting on predators off the beach — tuna, dolphins etc, maybe pilot whales?

Dolphins are well known for rounding up big balls of fish.

https://twitter.com/thetimes/status/831889057508638720

Dot
Dot
January 9, 2024 5:53 pm

So basically you couldn’t remember how much you drank and it was “only small beers”.

JC
JC
January 9, 2024 5:53 pm

Oh yeah , Dougie Cameron, one of the most poisonous communist weasels ever allowed to enter the country.

“Hate” shouldn’t be a word until Dougie showed up here. Just totally despicable who’s cost should be measured in lost GDP.

Cassie of Sydney
January 9, 2024 5:57 pm

The International Red Cross has not visited any of the Jewish hostages in Gaza.

Not one.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
January 9, 2024 5:57 pm

Sure you’re not thinking of an Australian Senate committee hearing?

Using him as the template for 3/4 of them.
https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/wa/10-years-of-stm-inside-the-world-of-kevin-reynolds-and-shelley-archer-ng-ee3d2ec187f9ede248257774f0fd3184

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
January 9, 2024 5:59 pm

“If people don’t like where I live, that’s too bad. I am a well-paid executive. And that is the role of trade union officials. In the overall scheme of things, we’re paid as good as a lot of public servants and better than most of our bank managers.

“People want to read about history. Lenin was from the middle class. Chairman Mao wasn’t poor. Paul Keating wasn’t poor. Nelson Mandela’s not poor. Che Guevara was from the middle class. The trade union movement and the working class world are not necessarily led by people who have come out of the slums.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
January 9, 2024 6:00 pm

I’ve just given JC a “thumbs up” tick.

For once I’ve agreed with him.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 9, 2024 6:11 pm

seriously sancho, look at yourself writing the bleeding obvious into a day-long wank-narrative

Strange that the God Oracle didn’t write “Yes, Sancho, I agree, but it’s pretty obvious because … yada, yada”.
God Oracle went with, “honestly … I get a woody when sancho talks technical”.
That wasn’t an attempt to discredit?
Amazing.
When the techos from Alaskan and United started turning up exactly what I said they might find – loose bolts – it all suddenly became bleedingly obvious.
Too late, champ.
BTW, has the network around the bloke who speared into the bay given him up as a – what was it again – “a crazy bastard”?
Pity he took the innocent bloke with him, eh, champ.

Rufus T Firefly
Rufus T Firefly
January 9, 2024 6:12 pm

Papering over these near catastrophic disasters that fortunately did not eventuate is Kremlin copium.

There is a show on YT called “Command and Control”, about a nuclear missile “mishap” in the mid 80’s in the US.
Oddly, not much about it in the media at the time.

Dunno why.

John H.
John H.
January 9, 2024 6:18 pm

MatrixTransform
Jan 9, 2024 4:41 PM
I have seen whiting beach themselves trying to avoid dolphins

Port Albert, standing on a jetty and watching a whirlpool form in the water …maybe a few across
a minute later mullet start jumping free of the water in the middle of the vortex
shortly followed y dolphins

another time we sat in a boat in the boat off Altona and watched a perfectly calm sea instantaneously boil with fish breaking the surface
gawd knows what was under there
Couta maybe?
we used to troll for them as kids with a paravane off Rosebud foreshore

The reports do not mention seeing predators. With strandings this large that is very unusual.

MatrixTransform
January 9, 2024 6:20 pm

God Oracle went with, “honestly … I get a woody when sancho talks technical”.
That wasn’t an attempt to discredit?
Amazing.

do you play chess sancho?

Katzenjammer
Katzenjammer
January 9, 2024 6:20 pm

The International Red Cross has not visited any of the Jewish hostages in Gaza.
Not one.

Red Cross explained they’re waiting for invitation letters from the hostages but Hamas won’t let them have postage stamps, or some crap excuse like that.

Pogria
Pogria
January 9, 2024 6:25 pm

Did the situation provoke her sons’ natural instinct to defend their mother? “I think it probably played a bit more on my elder brother; he’d seen a bit more of it than I did,” Reynolds says. “I’ve certainly seen my mother knocked out and lying in pools of blood.

From the Reynold’s article mole linked to. A real piece of work. I have seen four year old boys try to fight their father when mum was being attacked. Reynold’s didn’t lift a fat finger, the turd.

John H.
John H.
January 9, 2024 6:27 pm

Rufus T Firefly
Jan 9, 2024 6:12 PM
Papering over these near catastrophic disasters that fortunately did not eventuate is Kremlin copium.

There is a show on YT called “Command and Control”, about a nuclear missile “mishap” in the mid 80’s in the US.
Oddly, not much about it in the media at the time.

Dunno why.

How many heard about this one in 2019?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nyonoksa_radiation_accident

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 9, 2024 6:35 pm

The CFMEU certainly had a good working relationship with Multiplex out West in the John Roberts days. A guy from school at Multiplex was called as a witness to the unions Royal Commission to see if they could explain it. Not sure how it all played out. Tough business all round.

Gilas
Gilas
January 9, 2024 6:35 pm

For the next chapter in First-World Sufferings…

The other day, while peacefully watching a couple of.. ahem.. borrowed movies on my 55″ LG TV, a firecracker went off, out of the blue.
The damn thing just stone-dead died

Risking a back injury moving the hardly-used TV, and 46 screws later, the firecracker revealed itself to have been a blown small ceramic capacitor, one of 50-odd caps in the most complicated switch-mode-power-supply (SMPS) I’ve ever seen.
After some florid cursing, a quick multimeter check showed that this bastard also blew out one of the fuses.. maybe God-knows what else.

A quick check revealed that a used replacement SMPS would cost $150-300. A new TV, $800-2,700
But in true self-flagellation mode, I also checked eBay and found the replacement(s): a lot of 20 caps for $6.75, including delivery, from a supplier in Sawyers Gully in NSW.

That’s right. A stupid passive component costing 33-odd-cents fully kiboshed a $1,500 appliance, out of the blue.

Before putting a boot through the black screen, however, I breathed deeply.. calmly.. several times.. and ordered the parts.
In the meantime, I have been assiduously practicing my soldering and desoldering, removing and replacing components from old circuit boards.
All as aids to meditation and the appreciation of Socratic suffering.

For I’ll be damned if nothing good comes out of this.

Winston Smith
January 9, 2024 6:36 pm

Sancho Panzer

Jan 9, 2024 4:20 PM
Honest question: What’s going on with the tunnels found in NY?

Do they lead to a pizza shop?
Are there red shoes?
Has anyone checked reports of missing children?

That’s really funny, boy. I’ve never heard that joke before.

Dot
Dot
January 9, 2024 6:39 pm

Don’t think you can fix them Gilas because you need to fix the motherboard.

Oh…

In the meantime, I have been assiduously practicing my soldering and desoldering, removing and replacing components from old circuit boards.
All as aids to meditation and the appreciation of Socratic suffering.

Tell us how it goes.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
January 9, 2024 6:42 pm

The house aircon is fixed.
The Labrador did her typical poor judge of character routine, barking at the very smiley young local bloke who did the job. She’ll wag her tail at dodgy looking quail shooters knocking on the door at the crack of dawn.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
January 9, 2024 6:47 pm

H B Bear
Jan 9, 2024 6:35 PM

Multiplex did very….well…
Given Burke and his ilk were in charge most of the time mentioned its a mysterious mystery of mysteriousness what might have gone on.

Did I mention Burkes brother was parachuted into being the head of public works – what a talented family.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 9, 2024 6:48 pm

That’s right. A stupid passive component costing 33-odd-cents fully kiboshed a $1,500 appliance, out of the blue.

I have had an insight into the used parts market courtesy of my support worker who was trying to get a late model Hyundai repairable wreck back on the road. Lots go through the Middle East and on to Russia and Eastern Europe. A variation on the Silk Road. No ADRs either.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 9, 2024 6:55 pm

How many heard about this one in 2019?

I did. The Russians have progressed that tech since then.

What is the Burevestnik missile that Putin says Russia has tested? (Reuters, 6 Oct)

A low altitude cruise missile with a range of 20,000 km…

Top Ender
Top Ender
January 9, 2024 6:59 pm

Save yourself a double entry to the movies.

Don’t go and see Woody Allen’s Coup de Chance.

No need to thank me.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
January 9, 2024 7:02 pm

The International Red Cross has not visited any of the Jewish hostages in Gaza.
Not one.

Of course not. The ragheads do not want to relieve the suffering. And if they did go in, the Red Cross would be bound to report that the hostages were being abused, and quite likely already deceased.
I’ve noticed Medicins Sans Frontieres have fully bought the updated Protocols of the Elders of Zion on Twitter. Last penny they’ll ever get from me.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 9, 2024 7:02 pm

The economics of manufacturing, repair and supply chains has gone out the window in the days of the internet and containerised shipping. My mate in the UK had a near new BMW K13000S written off literally because it fell off its stand. God knows where it is now. He got paid out, bought a K1300R which is now uninsurable due to the bike theft in London. Go figure.

John H.
John H.
January 9, 2024 7:07 pm

Bruce of Newcastle
Jan 9, 2024 6:55 PM
How many heard about this one in 2019?

I did. The Russians have progressed that tech since then.

What is the Burevestnik missile that Putin says Russia has tested? (Reuters, 6 Oct)

A low altitude cruise missile with a range of 20,000 km…

Thanks Bruce. It is the same concept as the SLAM missile except the account I read stated the US expected to be keep it flying for months in the Arctic circle ready to be deployed at a moment’s notice. As to the claimed altitude, I’m unaware that Russia has developed terrain following radar on aircraft so I’ll take that 50-100 meter with a grain of salt. 50 meters is out of the question and for such a long flight path even 100 meters seems optimistic.

Roger
Roger
January 9, 2024 7:12 pm

Oh yeah , Dougie Cameron, one of the most poisonous communist weasels ever allowed to enter the country.

His only contribution to the country being the phrase, “Mind mah tea!”

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 9, 2024 7:16 pm

While on rockets and propulsion I’ll mention the lunar mission that launched last night.

From what I can tell it was as much a demonstration launch as anything – the payload being the private lunar lander, which is getting all the news coverage. Unfortunately the lunar spacecraft sprang a fuel leak and won’t now be able to soft-land on the Moon as planned, but the actual achievement is the launch rocket.

That was the brand spanking new Vulcan Centaur launcher built by the United Launch Alliance. It’s designed to replace the Atlas V and other rockets in their stable. And it worked perfectly, both stages, on first attempt.

Well done ULA rocket peoples! A rare achievement. Usually first time launchers, as Elon likes to say, suffer rapid unscheduled disassembly.

Roger
Roger
January 9, 2024 7:20 pm

The cognitive dissonance spawned by trying to live in a society we’re not built for is killing us.

We live a lot longer and richer lives than our hunter gatherer ancestors.

As science, evolutionary biology is on a par with AGW.

Indolent
Indolent
January 9, 2024 7:24 pm

‘I’m seven months pregnant’: Qld nurse fired for refusing COVID jab

Queensland nurse Ella Leach has been fired from her job for refusing the COVID-19 jab despite being seven months pregnant and the state lifting the vaccine mandate in September last year.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 9, 2024 7:25 pm

John – the obvious question is what they’re doing with this tech for space applications. You’d have to think it would be a shortcut to the reusable launch vehicle model that Elon now has going – and since he’s eaten Soyuz’ lunch they will want something as cheap and reusable as SpaceX has. The Russians aren’t as squeamish about nuclear stuff (since they didn’t greatly mind frying five scientists), so they’re probably working in this direction. If so, good.

Top Ender
Top Ender
January 9, 2024 7:26 pm

And in more news from Meanwhile in the Territory:

Three Alice Springs residents, including one juvenile, have been arrested over the death of a Sudanese teenager in the town on New Year’s Day.

The body of Yiel Gatluak, 19, was found dumped on an access road to Undoolya Station in the early afternoon of January 1.

It comes as Alice Springs locals — many who say they are “living in fear” — claim there has been an avalanche of youth crime and anti-social behaviour in the region, despite government officials — including the police minister — insisting otherwise.

The trio, aged 21, 20 and 17, are in custody after their arrests on Monday afternoon and evening. Police say the three knew Mr Gatluak.

The Oz, while the same story in the NT News has an extra sentence from the police spokesman:

However, he would not confirm if the three arrested were from the same community.

Roger
Roger
January 9, 2024 7:31 pm

Queensland nurse Ella Leach has been fired from her job for refusing the COVID-19 jab despite being seven months pregnant

Who was her employer?

On the basis of anecdotal evidence, I’d estimate that 80% of nurses employed by QLD Health are unvaccinated, as they’ve declined the boosters.

Gilas
Gilas
January 9, 2024 7:34 pm

Dot
Jan 9, 2024 6:39 PM

Don’t think you can fix them Gilas because you need to fix the motherboard.

YT is replete with repair videos on some of the million design-variations of these animals. A real homage to the summits of human ingenuity.
What they haven’t yet managed to do, however, is to make them bomb-proof and/or component-failure redundant.

At worst, I’ll be desoldering 200-odd components, before taking an axe to the beast.

Vagabond
Vagabond
January 9, 2024 7:37 pm

Gilas
Jan 9, 2024 6:35 PM

But in true self-flagellation mode, I also checked eBay and found the replacement(s): a lot of 20 caps for $6.75, including delivery, from a supplier in Sawyers Gully in NSW.

You should check those caps when they arrive, before going to the effort of installing them. There are counterfeit electronic components out there, even from Australian suppliers. The resulting liberation of the sacred smoke can be very expensive.

Don’t ask me how I know.

slackster
slackster
January 9, 2024 7:37 pm

Winston Smith
Jan 9, 2024 6:36 PM
Sancho Panzer

Jan 9, 2024 4:20 PM
Honest question: What’s going on with the tunnels found in NY?

Do they lead to a pizza shop?
Are there red shoes?
Has anyone checked reports of missing children?

That’s really funny, boy. I’ve never heard that joke before.

Guess people haven’t looked up the address on Google maps yet

https://imgur.com/a/fwevMod

Muddy
Muddy
January 9, 2024 7:40 pm

‘I’m seven months pregnant’: Qld nurse fired for refusing COVID jab

I can confirm that Qld. Health, after two years and the lifting of the mandate, is still vigorously using taxpayer’s money to pursue staff who refused to submit to the financial blackmail, and who have not yet been terminated due to ongoing legal challenges. It has been extraordinary to witness how a bureaucracy can mimic the behaviours of a psychologically disturbed individual and escape any consequences.

(A not-so-cheery hello to the Qld. Governor, by the way).

John H.
John H.
January 9, 2024 7:41 pm

Roger
Jan 9, 2024 7:20 PM
The cognitive dissonance spawned by trying to live in a society we’re not built for is killing us.

We live a lot longer and richer lives than our hunter gatherer ancestors.

As science, evolutionary biology is on a par with AGW.

Exactly. Civilization is a powerful modifier of behavior. That many societies now are composed of peoples from many nations puts paid to the idea that we are still governed by our tribal brain. It is still there but obviously it does not dominate our behavior. Our society is much more peaceful than hunter gatherers and even global societies a hundred years ago. Evolutionary psychology sucks. Our behavior is the result of many different factors and reducing it to just one is naive. I never understood why the intelligent design people went looking for discrete phenomena to mount their arguments when human behavior defies evolutionary imperatives, is incredibly flexible, and so much our behavior has nothing to do with seeking an adaptive advantage. That is why way back in the early 90’s Edelman wrote:

Values are necessary constraints on the adaptive workings of a species.

Only creatures endowed with higher-order consciousness can so transcend the dictates of biology.

The workings of the mind go beyond Newtonian causation. The workings of higher-order memories go beyond the description of temporal succession in physics. Finally, individual selfhood in society is to some extent an historical accident.

At a certain practical point, therefore, attempts to reduce psychology to neuroscience must fail.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 9, 2024 7:41 pm

However, he would not confirm if the three arrested were from the same community

Would that be the aspiring footballer community or the aspiring rapper community?

Roger
Roger
January 9, 2024 7:45 pm

I can confirm that Qld. Health, after two years and the lifting of the mandate, is still vigorously using taxpayer’s money to pursue staff who refused to submit to the financial blackmail, and who have not yet been terminated due to ongoing legal challenges.

So this goes back to the initial vaccine campaign?

That’s sheer bloody-mindedness on the part of her manager(s).

If they imposed a vaccine mandate under present conditions they’d have a mass walkout of staff, which is why they quietly operate with a “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy.

I note the private hospitals, including the Catholic system, still require nursing staff to be fully vaccinated.

John H.
John H.
January 9, 2024 7:46 pm

Bruce of Newcastle
Jan 9, 2024 7:25 PM
John – the obvious question is what they’re doing with this tech for space applications. You’d have to think it would be a shortcut to the reusable launch vehicle model that Elon now has going – and since he’s eaten Soyuz’ lunch they will want something as cheap and reusable as SpaceX has. The Russians aren’t as squeamish about nuclear stuff (since they didn’t greatly mind frying five scientists), so they’re probably working in this direction. If so, good

Bruce that is a very interesting idea. The challenge will be to reduce the total radioactive material released from the exhaust.

Dot
Dot
January 9, 2024 7:47 pm

At worst, I’ll be desoldering 200-odd components

Sweet Enola Gay, son.

Roger
Roger
January 9, 2024 7:49 pm

…attempts to reduce psychology to neuroscience must fail.

Neuroscience doesn’t even operate within a reductionist paradigm anymore.

Gilas
Gilas
January 9, 2024 7:50 pm

Vagabond
Jan 9, 2024 7:37 PM

You should check those caps when they arrive, before going to the effort of installing them. There are counterfeit electronic components out there, even from Australian suppliers. The resulting liberation of the sacred smoke can be very expensive.

Yes, but I’ll check the cap before soldering it in.
Someone I know was done buying expensive high capacity, high-voltage caps from Chainerr.. Cheap, small components hidden in a large size plastic shell, on eBay, no less.
Ballsy+++

WolfmanOz
January 9, 2024 7:51 pm

Very interesting article in Quadrant today re Hannah Arendt and the “Banality of Evil”.

https://quadrant.org.au/magazine/2024/01/hannah-arendt-and-the-banality-of-evil/

Roger
Roger
January 9, 2024 7:53 pm

Yes, I meant evolutionary psychology, John.

Based upon evolutionary biology, which is another set of assumptions brought into question by “punk eek.”

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 9, 2024 7:56 pm

Bruce that is a very interesting idea. The challenge will be to reduce the total radioactive material released from the exhaust.

Lots of room in Siberia. And a few pockets of high rad geography already, from previous work.

Depends on just how much Mr Putin wants to be in the race Elon has started. The Chinese are very keen, as we know already, although they’re more into the brute force old fashioned approach.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
January 9, 2024 7:59 pm

Knuckles, you may be interested to know your namesake is still at large, believed to be in Warberton, so the sweet sting of death may feel like a release when they eventually catch up with him.

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