Open Thread – Weekend 13 Jan 2024


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Pogria
Pogria
January 13, 2024 7:30 pm

Upthread, I think it was Cohenite, linked to a clip about the illegals problem in the US.
Here is a condensed version.

Katzenjammer
Katzenjammer
January 13, 2024 7:31 pm

I think we are about to find that the whole PhD industry is a house of cards.

PhD – Piled high and deep.

That’s a quote from someone else although I neglected to add quote marks and a citation.

Eyrie
Eyrie
January 13, 2024 7:31 pm

In all seriousness, I do wonder why people go to Fraser Island at all.

Agreed. Went in 2000. Underwhelmed.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
January 13, 2024 7:34 pm

We found dresses, jackets, and coats still with price tags on them, Mum had never worn them

Perhaps Mum’s fond of the five-finger discount?

Sarc emoji!
Wink emoji!

Random emojis!

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 13, 2024 7:35 pm

Cassie of Sydney

Jan 13, 2024 6:55 PM

Have always made my own sugo, for the cans now, itโ€™s Ardmona all the way.

Yep, I only buy Ardmona and Leggos. Donโ€™t care that they cost more, theyโ€™re better, infinitely better, and made locally.

I remember ViTrioli banging on about her Italian heritage on ABC radio and how she only ever buys Italian tomatoes because her exquisite palate can detect the difference.
One of her guests (an Australian grower/wholesaler) offered to return for a blind taste test with several Australian and Italian varieties of tinned tomatoes the next week.
Her confidence evaporated.
Same with people who buy Danish Lurpak butter … because better. I have similarly challenged them to a blind taste test against Western Star and other Australian product.

Perplexed of Brisbane
Perplexed of Brisbane
January 13, 2024 7:35 pm

miltonf
Jan 13, 2024 3:20 PM
Thousands of Jew haters in CBD. NSWaffen protecting the Great Synagogue, of course they are monitoring the situation.

So we know what we always suspected- the anti discrimination laws were there to restrict debate on immigration.

Apologies if I accidentally downticked your comment Milton. I hit something on the keyboard while reaching for an item on my desk. I did uptick your comment though.

MatrixTransform
January 13, 2024 7:39 pm

I before e except after c

… it’s science

Perplexed of Brisbane
Perplexed of Brisbane
January 13, 2024 7:41 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Jan 13, 2024 2:39 PM
Labor hasnโ€™t been the workerโ€™s party for 30 years, since French Cocks Keating became PM.

The members of todayโ€™s labor Party wouldnโ€™t recognise a worker if they fell over one, in the street.

I see what you did there! Unless you weren’t trying to make a penis metaphor. In which case I apologise for my interpretation;-)

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 13, 2024 7:42 pm

LOL, this is what our betters are scared of.

Visualizing The Top Global Risks In 2024 (13 Jan)

Visual Capitalist’s Dorthy Neufeld created the visualization below to show the biggest risks for 2024, based on the World Economic Forumโ€™s annual survey of leaders around the globe.

1. Extreme weather 66%
2. Misinformation and disinformation 53%
3. Societal polarization 46%
4. Cost of living crisis 42%
5. Cyberattacks 39%
6. Economic downturn

Yes, Cats, five out of six of the things the WEF elites are scared of are either mythical, or problems they themselves have caused. You couldn’t make this up for a scifi novel.

Pogria
Pogria
January 13, 2024 7:45 pm

I’ve only bought Lurpak once, there was a special offer, it came with a brownie tin.
I bought Pepe Sayer for sandwiches, but stopped after the owner landed a contract with Quntus and automated his production. Before that, his butter was hand made and hand packed by locals. Sacked them all and went big time. eff ‘im.

miltonf
miltonf
January 13, 2024 7:47 pm

Apologies if I accidentally downticked your comment Milton. I hit something on the keyboard while reaching for an item on my desk. I did uptick your comment though.

no worries Perplexed and thanks

miltonf
miltonf
January 13, 2024 7:53 pm

The members of todayโ€™s labor Party wouldnโ€™t recognise a worker if they fell over one, in the street.

Stephen Smith, remember that twot from WA, is the face of the modern ALP.

Boambee John
Boambee John
January 13, 2024 7:56 pm

Rosie

Neither the MSM, nor the “historians”, can admit that Pius XII saved many Jews without acknowledging that they were taken in by Soviet propaganda, and continued to believe it long after the Soviet Union was gone.

Pride will not allow them to admit to being taken in so effectively. They will continue to ignore recent evidence, change will come only after the deaths of most of the prominent ones.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 13, 2024 8:00 pm

Stephen Smith, remember that twot from WA

Vividly. He was my local member at one stage.

Roger
Roger
January 13, 2024 8:01 pm

Stephen Smith, remember that twot from WA, is the face of the modern ALP.

Our man in London currently.

Once admitted, they never leave the trough, they just change positions.

Boambee John
Boambee John
January 13, 2024 8:01 pm

Sancho Panzer
Jan 13, 2024 6:53 PM
thefrollickingmole

Jan 13, 2024 3:51 PM

Ackman finds a new scalpโ€ฆ

Bill Ackman
@BillAckman
The owner of Business Insider Mathias Dรถpfner engaged in plagiarism for his PhD ยซ XJMR

I think we are about to find that the whole PhD industry is a house of cards.

The adage used to be “Don’t pick a fight with people who buy ink by the barrel”. Now it should be “Don’t pick a fight with people who can afford to buy AI without limit”.

See also: Musk, Elon.

Perfidious Albino
Perfidious Albino
January 13, 2024 8:01 pm

I recall some reference during the Rudd/Gillard era to Stephen Smith and Wayne Swan as the โ€˜Glimmer Twinsโ€™ – never understood why?

JC
JC
January 13, 2024 8:02 pm

Danish Lurpak butter โ€ฆ because better. I have similarly challenged them to a blind taste test against Western Star and other Australian product.

Western Star is salted for a start and Danish Lurpak is paler. It does taste different and itโ€™s nicer.

Letโ€™s not have a falling out over better, Sanchez.

Cassie of Sydney
January 13, 2024 8:02 pm

Butter? My regulars are Western Star, Allowrie and I occasionally buy Lurpak if it is on sale.

I really like using unsalted Allowrie for my vanilla almond kipferl biscuits, they are scrumptious. Some Cats here have tasted my bikkies (and cakes), they can attest to how good they are. Oh and Tinta is an exceptional cook.

Pogria
Pogria
January 13, 2024 8:02 pm

The Canberra storm is about to hit my place. The sky is black, it’s windy and the dog is hiding behind the lounge. ๐Ÿ˜€

Pogria
Pogria
January 13, 2024 8:07 pm

I like salted butter for sandwiches and toast. For baking, unsalted.

Roger
Roger
January 13, 2024 8:07 pm

Iโ€™ve been told that the CBDs of Auckland Town, Christchurch Town and Wellington Town are also looking dismal and dirty

I can’t imagine Auckland CBD has gotten any worse since we were there 5 years ago although one shouldn’t underestimate the lingering Ardern factor.

However, Wellington CBD was clean and attractive in November.

Apart from the reconstruction still going on, Christchurch likewise.

I don’t recall any boarded up shops in either city.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
January 13, 2024 8:08 pm

Probably too early yet but am hoping next week we see a bit of a drop in Woolworths share. The more the better.

Roger
Roger
January 13, 2024 8:10 pm

Western Star is salted for a start

They produce an unsalted butter for baking/cooking purposes.

Cassie of Sydney
January 13, 2024 8:13 pm

I like salted butter for sandwiches and toast. For baking, unsalted.

Yes. My favourite snack, which we all inherited from my mother’s father’s French family, is to have a slice of really good bread, such as sourdough or rye, spread thickly with delicious salted butter and finely sliced onion on top.

That was our snack, onion sandwiches, after school every day!

Roger
Roger
January 13, 2024 8:14 pm

And Dunedin was raining and freezing but that only reminded me of Edinburgh and added to the ambience of the place.

JC
JC
January 13, 2024 8:15 pm

Roger

Our butter, dairy products is generally quite a bit yellower than stuff in Europe and America. Must be the cow diet, I guess.

Cassie of Sydney
January 13, 2024 8:16 pm

JC is right, Lurpak is paler. I guess it’s what the cows in Denmark eat.

But seriously, who cannot like butter? It’s also good for you.

If I ran the world, among other things, I’d ban coke, morning television such as Sunrise, and margarine.

Pogria
Pogria
January 13, 2024 8:17 pm

I like having a slice of cheese thickly buttered, with cornichons on the side.
I learnt to butter cheese when I was working at Allowrie. The other ladies showed me to take a couple of the mini cheese slices and place one of the foil wrapped mini butters between the cheese slices. mmmmm

bons
January 13, 2024 8:18 pm

Tim Burvill (he’s a South Australian but appears to be sentinent).

“BOM couldn’t forecast a sunrise”.

Caleb highlighting people who hired private met consultants. We did, and they got it right. We are drowning but the farm is in drought.

JC
JC
January 13, 2024 8:19 pm

I like having a slice of cheese thickly buttered, with cornichons on the side.

Undoubtedly.

Pogria
Pogria
January 13, 2024 8:23 pm

It begins.

Katzenjammer
Katzenjammer
January 13, 2024 8:23 pm

After talks between the Mossad and Qatari officials Israel will send medicine to the hostages held by Hamas in Gaza for the 1st time since October 7, Israeli Prime Ministerโ€™s office says

Nu, was gibst mit das Rotes Kreuz.

Rabz
January 13, 2024 8:23 pm

โ€œthe Bureau of Mediocrity couldnโ€™t forecast a sunriseโ€

Due to Gerbil Broilingโ„ข creating havoc with their rapidly diminishing synapses.

JC
JC
January 13, 2024 8:24 pm

I can’t believe how this guy turned into a traitorous douchebag. I hope he’s happy voting for the pedo crook.

Being the most powerful journalist in America is like being the tallest building in Topeka,” quipped pundit George Will at a Palm Beach speaking engagement on Wednesday evening. Will may have been aiming for modesty in response to a remark about his prominence, but his simile also reflected an unavoidable truth: the Washington GOP establishment, of which Will has long been a part, is in crisis.

Will, a longtime conservative who is now a registered independent and voted for Joe Biden in 2020, was reluctant to weigh in on his former party’s prospects in 2024, even as former South Carolina governor Nikki Haley squared off one-on-one on CNN against Florida Governor Ron DeSantis in a fifth GOP debate that same evening.

He could’ve not voted.

https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:_Pv8NP8Ee5UJ:https://www.newsweek.com/latest-gop-debate-reveals-washington-establishment-grasping-straws-opinion-1860281&hl=en&gl=us

JC
JC
January 13, 2024 8:28 pm

Works both ways, Pogster. Don’t go around claiming victim-hood when the score is 50:1 in your favor.

You shouldn’t be eating that combo as the calorie score would be the average daily intake for a normal diet. I’m trying to be helpful.

Roger
Roger
January 13, 2024 8:29 pm

Our butter, dairy products is generally quite a bit yellower than stuff in Europe and America.

That’s true JC, but it doesn’t bother me.

I used some Western Star unsalted today to make a roux for a cheese sauce.

Number 1 son (that’s chronological order) is coming for lunch tomorrow with his fiance (a libertarian lawyer!) and requested a childhood favourite – steak & macaroni cheese ๐Ÿ˜€ I prepared the macaroni today to save time.

miltonf
miltonf
January 13, 2024 8:29 pm

Murray Watt really must be the nadir.

Real Deal
Real Deal
January 13, 2024 8:29 pm

We’ve just travelled through parts of Sth Island and currently on our way to Auckland.

Second time in Queenstown. Beautiful natural scenery but seemed much trashing than 2015 when we last visited. Christchurch was doing a lot of rebuilding, but the botanical gardens were nice. We were only there briefly but the only eyesore was the Hamas rally under (of all things) the War Memorial.

Spent a few days in Wellington. It seemed prosperous enough, shops busy, not too many empty shops.

What I’ve noticed is that the smaller regional towns are pretty depressed. Lots of closed shops and depressing main streets.

We are staying in a town near Mt Ruapehu. The local economy must have been smashed by the Covid lockdowns. Many empty shops and closed businesses.

Mt Ruapehu is a sight to behold, though. It looks like an active volcano. Snow on the jagged peak and a stark rocky hillside to add to the effect. A marvellous view from the back balcony of our Airbnb. Auckland tomorrow.

Winston Smith
January 13, 2024 8:30 pm

Cassie of Sydney

Jan 13, 2024 6:55 PM
Have always made my own sugo, for the cans now, itโ€™s Ardmona all the way.

Yep, I only buy Ardmona and Leggos. Donโ€™t care that they cost more, theyโ€™re better, infinitely better, and made locally.

About five years ago I was told that the Mafia had taken control of the Italian tomato system and were importing barrels of tomato’s from China and repackaging them. It sounds like the information was correct.
Noted, Ardmona & Leggos. Ta.

Real Deal
Real Deal
January 13, 2024 8:31 pm

Trashier not trashing.

Rabz
January 13, 2024 8:35 pm

Murray Watt

Fat, drunk and stupid being no way to blunder through life – unless you’re an utterly useless labore parasite.

Then it’s hookers, chinese feasts and aldi bags of cash while occasionally sucking a bit of moozley cock.

JC
JC
January 13, 2024 8:35 pm

Turtlehead, how do you import “barrels” of cheap unprocessed tomatoes that would take about 30 days in a ship without the contents going the same color as Driller’s motel walls – grey and moldy.?

Salvatore, Iron Publican
January 13, 2024 8:37 pm

… I guess itโ€™s what the cows in Denmark eat …

They eat brown silage, about the colour of a human turd or the horsehair filling of a mattress. It is like a pile of tightly packed fishing net.
This is supplemented with pellets, mixed grain ration etc that is akin to pellets fed to chooks.

In the (brief) summer they may be allowed outdoors to have some exercise and eat green, very green, forage crops.

JC
JC
January 13, 2024 8:38 pm

What I’ve read is that the deal was the “tomato Mafia” was trucking in fresh tomatoes from turkey.

Morsie
Morsie
January 13, 2024 8:40 pm

If you buy Western Star spreadable you should note that the word “butter” does not appear on the packaging

Rabz
January 13, 2024 8:42 pm

Anyway, Cats, I’ll sign out at this point having just read the last last two instalments of Tony Thomas’s incredibly infuriating and depressing investigation of the arab moozley violence in Sydneystan in 2005.

And it’s still going on, evidently, according to comments above. “Nice li’l multicu*tural backwater you’ve got here, too bad if anything were to happen to it.”

JC
JC
January 13, 2024 8:43 pm

Citation not requited

What is a feedstock for danish milk cows?

Danish cows are typically fed a combination of various types of feed to ensure they receive a balanced and nutritious diet. The specific feedstock for Danish cows can vary depending on factors such as the cow’s age, stage of life (e.g., lactating or not), and the farming practices employed. However, some common components of the feed for Danish cows include:

Grass and Forage: Cows in Denmark often graze on pasture, especially during the grazing season. Pasture provides essential nutrients such as fiber and vitamins.

Silage: Silage is a fermented feed made from green forage crops, often including grass, clover, and other plants. It is stored in silos and is a significant component of the winter diet for cows.

Hay: Dried grasses and legumes, known as hay, are also part of the winter diet. Hay provides fiber and nutrients when fresh forage is not readily available.

Concentrates: These are feeds with a higher concentration of energy and nutrients. Concentrates can include grains like barley, wheat, and oats, as well as protein sources like soybean meal.

Mineral Supplements: Cows require various minerals, such as calcium, phosphorus, and salt, to maintain health and productivity. Mineral supplements are often added to their feed.

TMR (Total Mixed Ration): Some farmers in Denmark use a feeding technique called TMR, where all the different feed ingredients are mixed together thoroughly to create a balanced and consistent ration for the cows.

And the same question for Australian cow feedstock. Oh sounds about the same.

The diet of Australian cows can vary based on factors such as the type of farming system, the region, and the specific needs of the cattle. However, here are some common components of the feed for Australian cows:

Pasture: In many regions of Australia, cows have access to pasture, especially during the grazing season. Pasture can include various grasses and legumes, providing a natural and nutritious source of feed.

Hay: Dried grasses and legumes, known as hay, are commonly used as supplementary feed, particularly during times when pasture is scarce or during drought conditions.

Silage: Silage, which is fermented and preserved forage, is often used as a feed source. It can include grasses, legumes, and other crops.

Grains: Cattle may be fed grains like barley, wheat, or sorghum as part of their diet. Grains are a concentrated source of energy and can be included to meet the nutritional requirements of the animals, especially during certain stages of production.

Protein Supplements: To ensure adequate protein intake, cattle may be given protein supplements such as soybean meal or canola meal. These supplements help meet the protein requirements for growth, reproduction, and maintenance.

Mineral Supplements: Cattle require various minerals for proper growth and health. Mineral supplements, containing essential minerals like calcium, phosphorus, and salt, are often added to the feed.

Molasses: Molasses, a byproduct of sugar production, is sometimes added to cattle feed for its energy content and palatability.

Crop Residues: In some cases, crop residues such as wheat or rice straw might be used as a source of roughage in the diet.

Customized Feed Mixes: Some farmers use total mixed rations (TMR), where different feed ingredients are thoroughly mixed to create a balanced diet. This ensures that each animal receives a consistent and complete nutritional profile.

JC
JC
January 13, 2024 8:45 pm

Quote missing for Australian cows.

bons
January 13, 2024 8:46 pm

Kiwis are basically nice folks. How could they have ever elected the gelding.

After a couple of ski trips to Queenstown, we decided to return for a summer stay.

We engaged in a long drive to Milford Sound to join a soft climbing group. It was a disater as firehose rain debilitated all of us.

The three hour drive back to Queenstown was irresponsible on our part and became depressing when the loved one announced that she had left her handbag behind.

To bed with plans for a pre-dawn departure to search for the bag.

A bang on the door, and Kiwi plod announced that the cafe owner had found our bag and would put it on the morning bus back to Queenstown.

There is simply no chance that this could happen in Oz!

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
January 13, 2024 8:47 pm

Watching tennis in Radelaide.
Ostapenko?
No.
Ostapout-o!
The pouts this bird puts on when a point doesn’t go her way.
If dashing for the ball gets too much she has possible fallback careers in politics and kindergarten.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 13, 2024 8:48 pm

I bought Pepe Sayer for sandwiches, but stopped after the owner landed a contract with Quntus and automated his production.

He might want to look at that. Had some at Christmas, supposedly fresh. Very, very yellow. As soon as I cut it I could tell. Only yellow on the outside.
Rancid as.

Winston Smith
January 13, 2024 8:50 pm

Cassie of Sydney:

If I ran the world, among other things, Iโ€™d ban coke, morning television such as Sunrise, and margarine.

The first two, OK.
But until they can make butter spreadable from the fridge, or fridges with a butter compartment, then no way.
In Queensland, butter goes from rock hard to a liquid mess within ten minutes.

Winston Smith
January 13, 2024 8:53 pm

Pogria

Jan 13, 2024 8:23 PM
It begins.

What begins?
The butter/margarine wars, yes?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 13, 2024 8:54 pm

Just watching a doco on Spain.
I can see why some Spanish anchovies are expensive. Hand sorted and trimmed and arranged in the can by hand.
And then there is the bullfighting.
Not everyone loves it but they are agreed on one thing … preserving national culture is important.
I wonder if there is something in that for us.

Winston Smith
January 13, 2024 8:57 pm

Roger

Jan 13, 2024 8:29 PM
Number 1 son (thatโ€™s chronological order) is coming for lunch tomorrow with his fiance (a libertarian lawyer!) and requested a childhood favourite โ€“ steak & macaroni cheese ?

If she has any sense at all, she’d ditch him on the spot for that choice alone.

Pogria
Pogria
January 13, 2024 8:57 pm

Aussie butter is yellow because our cows live outside all year round and graze. Grazing is supplemented with hay when grass is scarce. European butters and US butters are pale because the cows spend eight months of the year indoors eating the muck that Salvo described.
The size of European dairies, and the severe winters, it is more economical to keep them indoors. Farming in the Northern hemisphere is very intensive. Always found it amusing when a colour is described as “butter” yellow, yet most of the yellow butter comes from Oz or NZ. Kerrygold from Ireland is the exception. Lovely yellow butter.

Black Ball
Black Ball
January 13, 2024 8:58 pm

Piers Akerman is back:

I donโ€™t buy my politics or opinions at Woolworths, or Aldi for that matter.

Given that the bulk of the Australia Day products they are now refusing to sell would have been made in China, probably by forced or even slave labour, why would I trust these retailers to sell anything that might add value to the lives of Australians?

Yet the woke who continually bleat their concerns about some ethnic minorities, including all Aboriginal Australians, are prepared to endorse the anti-Australian virtue-signalling propaganda pushed by Woolworths and Aldi.

Woolworths has a lot of form in this area as it, like most of the major law firms, insurance companies, almost all universities and the bulk of the media organisations, are suckers for anything that smacks of feel-good wokeist nonsense, ranging from human-induced climate change to the failed Yes case in the now sunken Albanese referendum.

The issues that most Australians are concerned about are not those which the big grocers get their knickers knotted over.

Ask anyone searching for products in any aisle and theyโ€™ll tell you that the cost of living is their biggest worry and that this anxiety is not being addressed by the supermarkets, let alone the Federal Government, which is still to deliver on its $275 electricity price cut, among other election promises.

Australia Day marks a lot more than the end of the long summer holiday for schoolchildren and many workers.

For most Australians, it is a special day on which, in the company of family or friends โ€“ and particularly new immigrants โ€“ a collective thanks is given for the privilege of living in one of the oldest liberal democracies on earth and for the freedoms that are the legacy of the British settlement.

Thereโ€™s little wonder that this island continent is a magnet for people from everywhere else.

The queues for Islamic, Buddhist or Hindu countries are non-existent.

Yet there exists a handful of activists who persist in viewing January 26 as a black day for those who, prior to 1788, were living a Palaeolithic tribal existence.

The fantasy that pre-European Aboriginal life was an idyllic pastorale relies on a most extraordinary and increasingly elaborate interpretation of history, including by the author Bruce Pascoe, who identifies as Aboriginal although studies of his genealogical record reveal no Aboriginal antecedents.

For his extremely creative work in providing an alternate history to the records of Aboriginal life from the time of first contact, Pascoe has been awarded a position at Melbourne University and numerous contracts for books and programs by the principal woke propagandist, the ABC.

While Aboriginal inhabitants lived Stone Age lives, Pascoe and the revisionists now claim that they were the inventors of parliamentary democracy, as well as aeronautical and navigational arts.

Talking up these fantasies may make some who have self-marginalised themselves from the mainstream feel better about themselves, but they are inaccurate.

Australia Day, according to the woke, should really be called Invasion Day, but Salvation Day or Enlightenment Day would be more accurate descriptions of the arrival of Western culture on the continent named Australia by the great navigator and chart maker Matthew Flinders.

The year 2024, coincidentally, marks the 250th anniversary of Flindersโ€™ birth, and will be celebrated by those who sail the seas around Australia and Tasmania, which Flinders and his friend, the British naval surgeon George Bass, first identified as an island.

Aboriginals werenโ€™t versed in offshore navigation, as they had no seagoing craft capable of going more than a few hundred metres from a beach, unless it was in very sheltered waters.

This is not to dismiss the skills needed to exist as hunter-gatherers, and certainly not to ignore the extensive identification of native toxic plants that was developed during the thousands of years of pre-settlement existence.

But other claims made for them, including their care for the environment, are palpably false or at best debatable.

Pandering to activists like the ranting Senator Lidia Thorpe and her trade union allies, including Voice advocate Thomas Mayo, by ignoring the benefits of Western civilisation and traducing Australia Day is a slur on the millions who have made homes and lives for their families here, many with Aboriginals, since Captain Arthur Philip hoisted the Union flag at Farm Cove.

Roll on Australia Day, celebrate this great country, the opportunities it has provided and will continue to offer to those who seek a bright future and not a bleak one.

JC
JC
January 13, 2024 8:58 pm

Danish vs Australian milk cow farming practices. Not much qualitative difference.

While both Denmark and Australia have high standards in their dairy industries, there are some differences in milk farming practices between the two countries. These differences can be influenced by factors such as climate, geography, farming traditions, and regulatory frameworks. Here are some general points of comparison:

Climate and Geography:
Denmark has a temperate climate, which allows for extended periods of grazing during the year. Danish dairy farming often involves pasture-based systems, and cows may have access to outdoor grazing for a significant portion of the year.
Australia has diverse climates across its regions, ranging from temperate to arid. In some parts of Australia, especially those with arid or hot climates, pasture-based systems may be supplemented or replaced by other systems such as barns or feedlots, where cows are provided with controlled environments and diets.

Grazing Practices:
Pasture-based systems are common in both Denmark and Australia, but the extent and duration of grazing can vary. In Denmark, cows may have access to pasture for more extended periods due to the favorable climate, while in some parts of Australia, grazing may be limited during certain times of the year.

Farm Size and Structure:
Danish dairy farms are often smaller in size compared to some Australian farms. Denmark has a higher concentration of small to medium-sized family farms. In contrast, Australian dairy farms can range from small family operations to larger, more extensive enterprises.

Technology Adoption:
Both countries embrace modern agricultural technologies, but the specific technologies used can vary. Automated milking systems, precision farming, and data analytics may be employed on farms in both Denmark and Australia, but the extent of adoption can differ based on farm size, financial resources, and other factors.

Regulatory Framework:
Denmark and Australia each have their regulatory frameworks governing the dairy industry. These regulations may cover areas such as milk quality, animal welfare, and environmental practices. While the overarching goals are similar, the specific regulations and enforcement mechanisms can differ.

Sustainability Practices:
Both countries have a focus on sustainability, but the practices may differ based on local conditions. Danish dairy farming often emphasizes environmental sustainability, while Australian dairy farms may focus on efficient resource use and sustainable land management, particularly in regions with water scarcity.

It’s essential to recognize that within each country, there is a range of farming practices, and individual farms may vary based on factors such as location, size, and management philosophy. Additionally, both Denmark and Australia are committed to continually improving their dairy industries, and advancements in technology and sustainability practices are ongoing.

I think we’re donesky on this subject.

Roger
Roger
January 13, 2024 8:59 pm

In Queensland, butter goes from rock hard to a liquid mess within ten minutes.

Strike at the 4-5 minute mark.

Winston Smith
January 13, 2024 9:01 pm

JC

Jan 13, 2024 8:35 PM
Turtlehead, how do you import โ€œbarrelsโ€ of cheap unprocessed tomatoes that would take about 30 days in a ship without the contents going the same color as Drillerโ€™s motel walls โ€“ grey and moldy.?

You’ve never heard of preservatives, Big Nose?

Salvatore, Iron Publican
January 13, 2024 9:01 pm

What begins?
The butter/margarine wars, yes?

The household was strictly butter when we were kids.
Butter was viewed as a positive & we were encouraged to use it lots.

Until the moment dad planted a Sunflower crop for the first time. Margarine, a previously unknown substance, appeared in that tin lined box built into kitchen cabinets, where jam and butter .. er.. margarine & stuff is kept.

Apparently superior to butter (ugh) in all manner of ways, the virtues of margarine were talked up endlessly.
We never saw butter on the table again.

Pogria
Pogria
January 13, 2024 9:01 pm

Winston,
cheeky!

Luzu
Luzu
January 13, 2024 9:02 pm

Winston,

Mainland does a spreadable butter which can be used straight from the fridge. It is salty and yellow and I eat it regularly. $8 for 375gms at Coles.

Unlike the other spreads, it contains zero vegetable oil.

It is good stuff.

Roger
Roger
January 13, 2024 9:05 pm

If she has any sense at all, sheโ€™d ditch him on the spot for that choice alone.

Think of it as an alternative to mashed potato.

It’s not for nothing it’s a standard combo in US steakhouses.

Pogria
Pogria
January 13, 2024 9:08 pm

He might want to look at that. Had some at Christmas, supposedly fresh. Very, very yellow. As soon as I cut it I could tell. Only yellow on the outside.
Rancid as.

Sancho,
as you probably know, Pepe Sayer butter is cultured, gives it a lovely tang. They most likely use that as an excuse to cover the rancidity.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
January 13, 2024 9:08 pm

Danish vs Australian milk cow farming practices. Not much qualitative difference.

It may appear that way to an outsider/layman or city slicker.
The differences – while appearing superficial – are manifold. Particularly in husbandry practices.

To someone for whom “milk” is milk, they’re much the same product. In the manner that the language spoken in Paris is much the same as that spoken in Haiti.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 13, 2024 9:09 pm

Western Star is salted for a start and Danish Lurpak is paler. It does taste different and itโ€™s nicer.

We have to part ways on this one. Western Star comes from tough Aussie cows who brave the Sou’ Westers down near Cobden and eat grass all year long. Lurpak comes from gay Nancy-cows who shelter inside for six months and eat grain … poison wheat mostly.
And what the hell is wrong with salt?
You smoke for Christ’s sake.
I will not be lectured about salt by this man!

JC
JC
January 13, 2024 9:11 pm

Youโ€™ve never heard of preservatives, Big Nose?

Yes, I have, Turts. Unprocessed tomatoes would be impossible to ship as they’d quickly resemble Driller’s motel bathrooms in coloration – moldy as F. The things would turn into mold even if 50% of the barrel contents were preservatives over say approx 30 days travel time on a ship

Tomatoes are flown around the world because they spoil very quickly and this makes the product too costly to use in canned products. Is there even a single conspiracy theory you don’t absorb, you gullible cretin?

Salvatore, Iron Publican
January 13, 2024 9:12 pm

Think of it as an alternative to mashed potato.

Thou speaketh heresy.

I’ve no idea what Macaroni Cheese even means. However I’ll go out on a limb & state that it is to mashed potato as General Mark Miley is to General Douglas MacArthur.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 13, 2024 9:15 pm

Truth be told, the best butter is home-made.
But use cold full cream which is not homogenised, otherwise it won’t split.
Takes about five minutes in … The Thermomix.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
January 13, 2024 9:15 pm

Ok anotherJason Stratham Movie to see โ€“ THE BEEKEEPER | Official Restricted Trailer โ€“

Sausage Nigels!

Pogria
Pogria
January 13, 2024 9:15 pm

Salvo,
we only had butter when I was growing up. Then that bloody “Soft Astra, American style Margarine”, arrived in Oz. yerk. Mum never bought butter after Astra was in the shops. God, talk about highly processed food. eeew.

JC
JC
January 13, 2024 9:15 pm

It may appear that way to an outsider/layman or city slicker.

Oh yes, the lived experience shtick from a slicker living on Mud Island.

By the way, has anyone seen the citation that NAB took a 10% skim on cash deposits as a Mud Islander recently claimed? I’m filing that in the non-response citations file, which is now as thick as an old metro telephone book.

Katzenjammer
Katzenjammer
January 13, 2024 9:18 pm

Margarine, a previously unknown substance, appeared in that tin lined box built into kitchen cabinets, where jam and butter .. er.. margarine & stuff is kept.

Nice memories of the kitchen cabinet with the modern press buttom catch on the door handle, and the stuff not held in the ice chest that we stick in the fridge today. Rape seed was renamed conola. I remember as a kid changing the ticket in our health and bulk foods shop, but didn’t know at that age the connotations of the word “rape”.

JC
JC
January 13, 2024 9:20 pm

Ok anotherJason Stratham Movie to see โ€“ THE BEEKEEPER | Official Restricted Trailer โ€“

All his movies are basically the same script. Former Intel, SAS, special opps. Bad guys pick on the wrong dude. Has there ever been a different story-line to any of his movies?

Roger
Roger
January 13, 2024 9:22 pm

Iโ€™ve no idea what Macaroni Cheese even means. However Iโ€™ll go out on a limb & state that it is to mashed potato as General Mark Miley is to General Douglas MacArthur

You haven’t lived, Sal.

Patton is mashed potato.

MacArthur is macaroni cheese.

They’re both good, one is just a little more fancy.

Real Deal
Real Deal
January 13, 2024 9:23 pm

Bootter? Hurumph!

When we were growing oop on Moors our Moother would put candle wax on a piece of week old bread that Miller used to pay us for sweeping out mill after school. If we were looky.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
January 13, 2024 9:23 pm

Pogria Jan 13, 2024 9:15 PM
Salvo,
we only had butter when I was growing up. Then that bloody โ€œSoft Astra, American style Margarineโ€, arrived in Oz. yerk. Mum never bought butter after Astra was in the shops. God, talk about highly processed food. eeew.

Saying that would have brought dark looks onto us from dad.

Dad switching the household (& of course, the stock camp) to nothing-but-margarine when he became a Sunflower grower was one of those watershed moments.
Butter was never spoken of again.

The switch was faster than the ABC/wanker caste switching to & from supporting/hating Clive Palmer, depending whether Clive spoke ill of John Howard that week.

It was a good lesson in supporting your own product. Dad may not have realised that at the time.

Pogria
Pogria
January 13, 2024 9:24 pm

I will not be lectured about salt by this man!

Aaah, Salt! I have a lovely collection of ozzie salts. Pink flakes from the Murray. Craps all over Maldon salt. Olsson’s have developed a very nice range of dipping salts for rimming cocktails glasses. They are also excellent for use as a seasoning. Olsson’s also have a Rare Gin salt as they call it. A fine sea salt with Gin Botanicals. A feisty, spicy, peppery flavour. For everyday use, I have Vogel’s Herb salt and of course you can’t go past Chicken salt for chips and potato scallops. There are also great ozzie made Smoked salts, however, I make my own smoked salt.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
January 13, 2024 9:24 pm

You havenโ€™t lived, Sal.

So it would seem.
I’ve an inkling that I’ll never see, never mind dine upon, macaroni cheese.
(The name is off-putting enough)

Pogria
Pogria
January 13, 2024 9:28 pm

Salvo,
I understand your Dad’s reasoning. BUT! there are limits. ๐Ÿ˜€
As for Macaroni Cheese, one of the culinary world’s greatest comfort foods.
Strictly winter eating though.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
January 13, 2024 9:29 pm

Uncultured me thought salt was… salt. (red faced emoji).

JC
JC
January 13, 2024 9:29 pm

There was another brand of butter when I was growing up. I can’t recall the name, but it had a silver(ish) cover with pale green stripes (?). May have been a regional brand perhaps.

JC
JC
January 13, 2024 9:29 pm

Here we go.

Winston Smith
January 13, 2024 9:31 pm

Luzu

Jan 13, 2024 9:02 PM
Winston, Mainland does a spreadable butter which can be used straight from the fridge. It is salty and yellow and I eat it regularly. $8 for 375gms at Coles.
Unlike the other spreads, it contains zero vegetable oil.
It is good stuff.

I didn’t know that – years ago I checked the different varieties and all of them as far as I could tell were margarine butter blends.
I’ll have a look on Monday.
Meanwhile I’ve 8 x 500gram margarine in the freezer to go through. But I’ll look for specials and stock up. Ta.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
January 13, 2024 9:31 pm

As for Macaroni Cheese, one of the culinary worldโ€™s greatest comfort foods.

Until it was mentioned upthread, I’d never heard of it.
The joy & wonder of new discovery. Makes me feel like Indiana Jones or someone.

The world is full of wonderous new surprises! Wonder what I’ll learn about next week?

MatrixTransform
January 13, 2024 9:32 pm

… however, I make my own smoked salt

marry me

MatrixTransform
January 13, 2024 9:37 pm

thought salt wasโ€ฆ salt

ehem … Fleur De Sel De Guerande

JC
JC
January 13, 2024 9:39 pm

MacArthur is macaroni cheese.

I suspect it’s an American “invention”, Roger.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 13, 2024 9:42 pm

Rape seed was renamed conola.

One West Australian farmer was supposed to have informed his wife that “He was thinking of going in for rape.”

She replied coldly that, if he wasn’t getting enough legally, that was his problem.

JC
JC
January 13, 2024 9:43 pm

Mac cheese, origins.

WTF

Its origins trace back to cheese and pasta casseroles dating to the 14th century in Italy and medieval England. The traditional macaroni and cheese is a casserole baked in the oven; ………..

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
January 13, 2024 9:47 pm

Butter? BUTTER?

You talk of butter, when the agrarian socialists and Klaus and Greta and the Stonecutters and Allegra Spender and the ABC and dwarves and train drivers are stealing our country before our very eyes, in direct conflict with Magna Carta?

There’ll be no butter when you’re all rounded up by the Army Reserve and put in tunnels. It’ll be bugs and bits of people. And more bugs!

Katzenjammer
Katzenjammer
January 13, 2024 9:50 pm

Iโ€™ve no idea what Macaroni Cheese even means.

I thought this forum was based on Australian cultural fundamentals. Macaroni cheese, Chiko rolls, Lime Splice ices, Lamb chops in a couple of weeks. And lamingtons.

Pogria
Pogria
January 13, 2024 9:51 pm

JC,
you’re learning to do research! Bless.

JC
JC
January 13, 2024 9:51 pm

Katz

Ignore, as it’s just attention seeking.

Pogria
Pogria
January 13, 2024 9:52 pm

Matrix,
thanks for that link. I have bookmarked it. Lots of very interesting stuff.

Baba
Baba
January 13, 2024 9:53 pm

Roger
Jan 13, 2024 8:59 PM
In Queensland, butter goes from rock hard to a liquid mess within ten minutes.

Strike at the 4-5 minute mark.

Cool tip. Serve butter cubes in bowl of iced water.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
January 13, 2024 9:54 pm

I thought this forum was based on Australian cultural fundamentals. Macaroni cheese, Chiko rolls, Lime Splice ices, Lamb chops in a couple of weeks. And lamingtons.

Wow, a new discovery already! ๐Ÿ™‚
I’ll get around to verifying this just as soon as I’ve looked up Macaroni Cheese, to see if it is real or if I’m having my leg pulled.

So much to be learned at Catallaxy.

MatrixTransform
January 13, 2024 9:55 pm

Itโ€™ll be bugs and bits of people. And more bugs!

with lashings and lashings of garlic butter

and Sauv Blanc

…or ‘bitch diesel’, as we call it

Pogria
Pogria
January 13, 2024 9:55 pm

Katzenjammer,
an aussie summer on the beach wouldn’t be complete without a hot snot roll and a Lime Splice to follow. ๐Ÿ˜€

MatrixTransform
January 13, 2024 9:57 pm

Lots of very interesting stuff

pogs, that salt is sublime

calli
calli
January 13, 2024 9:57 pm

The golden colour is beta carotine. It comes from the pastures that Aussie cows are on all hear round.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
January 13, 2024 9:58 pm

Katzenjammer Jan 13, 2024 9:18 PM
Nice memories of the kitchen cabinet with the modern press buttom catch on the door handle, and the stuff not held in the ice chest that we stick in the fridge today.

We had a kerosine fridge. It was not to be opened except by order of a grown-up (penalty: kinetic, most kinetic)
Same principle, only special stuff went in the fridge. Anything which could survive outside, survived outside.

To this day feel funny seeing bread in a fridge.

calli
calli
January 13, 2024 9:58 pm

Bother.

hear = year

JC
JC
January 13, 2024 9:59 pm

Pogria
Jan 13, 2024 9:51 PM

JC,
youโ€™re learning to do research! Bless

Learning all the time progster. Never stopped. You ought to try it.

calli
calli
January 13, 2024 10:00 pm

I use Maldon flaked salt on the chops before barbequeing. Yes, it makes a difference.

MatrixTransform
January 13, 2024 10:01 pm

got a Fluer de sel online from a place called Fine French Food @ $50 a kg
was very good stuff
but not the same as Guerande

Winston Smith
January 13, 2024 10:04 pm

JC, you lying prick Here’s what I said:

About five years ago I was told that the Mafia had taken control of the Italian tomato system and were importing barrels of tomatoโ€™s from China and repackaging them. It sounds like the information was correct.

Here’s what you have reframed it as:

Turtlehead, how do you import โ€œbarrelsโ€ of cheap unprocessed tomatoes that would take about 30 days in a ship without the contents going the same color as Drillerโ€™s motel walls โ€“ grey and moldy.?

I think you’ll find that “Cheap unprocessed tomato’s” is a very far cry from “tomato’s from China and repackaging them”. In other words you just lied about what I said and have now responded to your interpretation, just to score cheap points.

Tomatoes are flown around the world because they spoil very quickly and this makes the product too costly to use in canned products. Is there even a single conspiracy theory you donโ€™t absorb, you gullible cretin?

How long does tomato sauce last in your fridge? It has – usually – a one year shelf life.
I have many tins and bottles of tomato products in my larder, but you’re telling me that they’re too expensive for that purpose? You idiot. Your denials of reality can be a symptom of a mental derangement, you know?

Is there even a single conspiracy theory you donโ€™t absorb, you gullible cretin?

Is there a conversation you get into that doesn’t start with you calling someone names that you would get slapped in kindy? Do you ever do it in front of people who would give you a good punch in the your fat mouth for your arrogance? Of course not, because you’re a coward.
And are you going to claim you didn’t start this tonight? Of course you are. You dickhead.

MatrixTransform
January 13, 2024 10:04 pm

salt on the chops

bring them to room temp with salt on before the pan

same with steak

such a simple device makes all the difference

JC
JC
January 13, 2024 10:06 pm

One of the 10 top predictions for 24, by a well known JP Morgan analyst is this.

(Indolent is going to go nuts).

An inhaled COVID vaccine appears. These sharply reduce transmission. Current COVID-19 vaccines do not prevent the spread of the disease, but inhaled versions under development would.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 13, 2024 10:06 pm

KD at 9:47.
Wut?
I was kind of looking forward to buttered bugs.
Or cicada parmagiana.

Winston Smith
January 13, 2024 10:10 pm

JC

Jan 13, 2024 9:29 PM
Here we go.

The starting gun for an evening of abuse?
Of course, but it never starts the fights.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 13, 2024 10:10 pm

Riddle me this, thrillseekers.

Why, in these days of enlightened and empowered feminism, would a young woman have “Every Dog Has Their Day” tattooed on her arm?

Inquiring minds want to know.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
January 13, 2024 10:12 pm

I was kind of looking forward to buttered bugs.

It’s too late now – tomato life expectancy has kicked in as the frontrunner.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 13, 2024 10:14 pm

We had a kerosine fridge.

I can remember replacing a kerosine fridge with an electrical fridge – 32 Volt.

Mark Bolton
January 13, 2024 10:17 pm

Back in the day when I was more stable I liked to just see your opinions. I just lurked and did so for decades. Now ….Have any of you ?.. I Ask this without any invidious distinction…

Got a tear for Gonzalo Lira?

Winston Smith
January 13, 2024 10:17 pm

isn’t there an illegal colouring doing the rounds to replace an expensive food dye? I’ve a feeling it’s to replace a spice, but cant remember it.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
January 13, 2024 10:19 pm

Got a tear for Gonzalo Lira?

Who?

The dating coach?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 13, 2024 10:22 pm

Winston Smith

Jan 13, 2024 10:17 PM

isnโ€™t there an illegal colouring doing the rounds to replace an expensive food dye?

Iodine?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 13, 2024 10:23 pm

Is Gonzalo Goneski?

Mark Bolton
January 13, 2024 10:24 pm

Oh my goodness me you Guys …wrestling with huge issues…

I will just stand to one side… I have no issues with Butter and cheese that might compel me to take a stand.. Clearly I am out of my depth

The floor is open for you …

Winston Smith
January 13, 2024 10:26 pm

Sancho Panzer
Jan 13, 2024 10:22 PM

Winston Smith
Jan 13, 2024 10:17 PM
isnโ€™t there an illegal colouring doing the rounds to replace an expensive food dye?

Iodine?
That’s very funny, SP. Did JC call for help?

JC
JC
January 13, 2024 10:30 pm

About five years ago I was told that the Mafia had taken control of the Italian tomato system and were importing barrels of tomatoโ€™s from China and repackaging them. It sounds like the information was correct.

You were told? Who told you? The neighbor two doors down?

To repeat.
If they weren’t processed, they go all Driller’s motel before they went past the South China Sea. If they were processed, it would be too expensive to move like that around the world.

Every critical response to any of your stupid comments is immediately taken as a lie, you crazy old nurse.

How long does tomato sauce last in your fridge? It has โ€“ usually โ€“ a one year shelf life.

Sauce? You said “tomatoes”, you irredeemable clown. I’ll repeat your exact words.

About five years ago I was told that the Mafia had taken control of the Italian tomato system and were importing barrels of tomatoโ€™s from China and repackaging them.

They’re either processed or not. Either way, it wouldn’t work and you were taken for a ride again.

I have many tins and bottles of tomato products in my larder, but youโ€™re telling me that theyโ€™re too expensive for that purpose? You idiot. Your denials of reality can be a symptom of a mental derangement, you know?

Which has nothing to do with what you described. See above. Sauce isn’t that same thing as “tomatoes”, you irredeemable clown.

Is there a conversation you get into that doesnโ€™t start with you calling someone names that you would get slapped in kindy? Do you ever do it in front of people who would give you a good punch in the your fat mouth for your arrogance? Of course not, because youโ€™re a coward.

I’d associate with people I don’t much care for, so it wouldn’t happen.

And are you going to claim you didnโ€™t start this tonight? Of course you are. You dickhead.

Betty Turtlehead, you don’t call the shots. You play that way and you can expect similar responses in return. That’s not negotiable. You had your chance and you blew it.

Mark Bolton
January 13, 2024 10:30 pm

@ Sancho Panzer

Yup He is “brown Bread” and what a shame because had he a proper trial It would Have started today…. and proven that “Slvava Ukraine” and yellow and Blue would have proven the munificence of Aussie Taxpayers … 500 million .. to have proven it all worthwhile in the defence of Democracy …

But Now he just bloody went on and up and died for nor apparent reason ?

Mark Bolton
January 13, 2024 10:33 pm

@Sancho Panzer
Jan 13, 2024 10:23 PM

Yup bugger just went and “popped his cloggs” … and utter mystery I am sure …

JC
JC
January 13, 2024 10:33 pm

Jan 13, 2024 9:29 PM
Here we go.

The starting gun for an evening of abuse?
Of course, but it never starts the fights.

No.
That was just an indirect response to the Mold Master pretending that in all his life he had never heard of mac&cheese. Total bullshit.

Mark Bolton
January 13, 2024 10:37 pm

@KD

Mate You must know I have tried every which way to engage you as an intelligent intercuture … and all you have ever done is make smart aresed infantilke jokes… You cant say I didnt try .. But here is where i reckon we best go with this .. I just ignore you ?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
January 13, 2024 10:39 pm

A Ukrainian’s view on Mr Lira, via X/Twitter:

So while it’s unfortunate that Gonzalo Lira has died, I really can’t bring myself to feel any remorse.

As a failed pick-up artist who encouraged and taught men how to sleep with impoverished Eastern European women who turned Russian shill while Russia was attacking Ukraine he was nothing more than a dirt bag.

He was first warned by Ukrainian authorities that his actions were illegal, yet he continued.

He was then placed under house arrest, a very lenient punishment here in Ukraine.

He then violated the conditions of his house arrest by attempting to escape to Hungary.

Ironically he contracted severe pneumonia, something he struggled with and died in a Kharkiv hospital, a city which is constantly attacked by the country he supported.

Oh well. Hopefully he coached a lot of the other prisoners on how to pick up chicks.

If so, his legacy will live on.

Mark Bolton
January 13, 2024 10:41 pm

But really folks I have well informed and robust views about Kerosine …

Any of you Picked up on what got done to Gonzalo?

JC
JC
January 13, 2024 10:41 pm

Knuckle Dragger
Jan 13, 2024 10:39 PM

We’re supposed to feel sorry for a “Tokyo Rose”.

Mark Bolton
January 13, 2024 10:43 pm

Also a bloke by the name of Assange? …. any of you Kerosene people care ?

cohenite
January 13, 2024 10:46 pm

Someone put up a video comparing the Swiss gun culture with the USA’s. The video nominally supported guns but was insidious and condescending towards the USA. Here is a rebuttal by the great Colion Noir:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bf_aohjp7I0

Mark Bolton
January 13, 2024 10:47 pm

@ … JC

P. G. Wodehouse damn near found his self wrapped round a set of axles back in the day …

Mark Bolton
January 13, 2024 10:48 pm

… Respect Mate…

Salvatore, Iron Publican
January 13, 2024 10:48 pm

I can remember replacing a kerosine fridge with an electrical fridge โ€“ 32 Volt.

Most of the district were 32 volt & considered themselves to have “arrived”.
Not seeing the point of 32 volt he put in 240 volt lighting plant. This was quite something, not least because we lived in a tent.

The district thought his decision was bonkers. They were inbred backblocks small town retards, for within 10 years the entire district installed 240 volt lighting plants of their own.

JC
JC
January 13, 2024 10:49 pm

@ Mark Bolt on.

Doesn’t sound nice.

More importantly, how are you doing, Birdy?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
January 13, 2024 10:51 pm

Any of you Picked up on what got done to Gonzalo?

I just put some Flora on a hot cross bun.

Possibly salted, possibly not.

Mark Bolton
January 13, 2024 10:55 pm

JC you disappoint me … aparently there was a bloke that you call “The Bird” who brings you much concern … even to the extent that you find youre nemesis … where it flat out isnt … now . .might have been once .. but just relax Sparky …

“Is the Bird in the room with Us right now ?”

JC
JC
January 13, 2024 10:57 pm

The hunters become the hunted. I have my doubts the Georgia AG will respond, but it’s worth dreaming.

Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) has โ€œhigh expectationsโ€ of Gov. Brian Kemp (R) and Georgia Attorney General Christopher Carr to launch a criminal probe into Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis, exclusively telling Breitbart News โ€œThereโ€™s so much proofโ€ of wrongdoing in Willisโ€™s prosecution of former President Donald Trump.

Greene filed a complaint on Wednesday against Willis and her top prosecutor, seeking the dismissal of the charges against Trump due to Willisโ€™s alleged improper relationship with her top prosecutor in the Trump case.

JC
JC
January 13, 2024 10:59 pm

JC you disappoint me โ€ฆ aparently there was a bloke that you call โ€œThe Birdโ€ who brings you much concern

I’m disappointed you’re disappointed, Bolts. It’s the first time I’ve ever mentioned I think you’re Bird, even though I’ve (silently) suspected you are.

Digger
Digger
January 13, 2024 10:59 pm

Great post last night by Digger on the old fred, re his secondment to the USN in the 80โ€™s and the indifference of RAN brass upon his return to what he had learnt.

The issue of indifference to lessons learned has a long history in the RAN from my experience.

In the era when the RAN was transforming from being a clone of the RN to a more USN focussed entity in the mid to late 1960’s onwards for a number of reasons including our switch to ANZUS becoming our primary security treaty and the slow withdrawal of British forces from our region. The purchase of US Charles F Adams Class DDG’s, F111’s, Oliver Hazard Perry FFG’s etc and of course our participation in the Vietnam conflict added to our switch to the US and the ignorance by the RAN to lessons learned was very evident even back then.

I was in a 6 man Clearance Diving Team based in a USN Naval Support Facility in Danang for 7 months in 1970/71. Besides a few AATTV soldiers located in Danang the closest Australians were at Nui Dat, Saigon and Vung Tau between 800 to 900Ks away. All of our equipment, weapons, boat, vehicles, tools, supplies etc were US and we operated in an entirely foreign to the RAN Riverine environment throughout the entire top 1/3 of South Vietnam. We undertook EOD support for US Army and ARVN military operations, disposed of riverine channel blockades, recovered downed aircraft, disposed of significant volumes or retrograde and unexploded ordnance, searched many ships hulls, decks and holds for limpet mines and IED’s, operated with the Inshore Undersea Warfare Group (Brown Water Navy) in PBR’s and Swift Boats, recovered tens of tonnes of unexploded munitions from Danang harbour following a 150 tonne ammunition barge explosion, disposed of leaking napalm bombs, learned heaps about USN EOD, UDT and SEAL operations and tactics and inter-operational strategies….

And there was no interest from above when we returned to Aus… that I am aware of.

I watched the RAN Diving Branch transform over the ensuing 16 years that I served and they transformed slower with less efficiency, far more cost and lots more grief than might have occurred if good management of available information from lessons learned was sought and used…

The same occurred in PNG and the Solomon Islands during the 1970’s where we cleared many thousand pieces of unexploded allied and Japanese ordnance of every type.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 13, 2024 11:03 pm

What Iโ€™ve read is that the deal was the โ€œtomato Mafiaโ€ was trucking in fresh tomatoes from turkey.

Fresh Turkish tomatos were the very best thing about Istanbul. Glorious flavours.
Served in a restaurant overlooking the Bosphorus. That was good too.

Hagia Sophia and the chariot race course where they shot up some German tourists were also OK.

Joys of travel.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 13, 2024 11:04 pm

Never had a better tomato anywhere, even in Italy.

They’re that good.

Mark Bolton
January 13, 2024 11:05 pm

JC and KD You are both very boring and unproductive people and i think it best I make most productive use of my time by ignoring you both.

I have Really enjoyed my interaction with the Cat by getting some inspiration … and son]me slap o the bum … and Wanna Know what ? being Real … Music I hadnt heard before …

So KD and JC what use are you … either …of you to any one.. ? Apart from being gratuitiously nasty and insulting …

aIn the Final Analysis … How would such and approach ever get you ahead anywher?

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 13, 2024 11:08 pm

Bolton’s not Birdie.

Totally lacks the mojo and self-confidence and general intelligence.

Sorry, Boltie. I think you’re probably an ok guy, a bit off-beam, on the wrong blog.

Nobody’s perfect. ๐Ÿ™‚

JC
JC
January 13, 2024 11:08 pm

Bolts, I may be overstepping the boundary, speaking for KD, but I think we’ll manage to survive. It’s going to be hard, but we’ll scrape through hopefully.

Mark Bolton
January 13, 2024 11:08 pm

@ Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare Here in the Booka we can get truckloads of Tomatos at the right time of the year… Boil them.. bottle them dance on them …

Dot
Dot
January 13, 2024 11:09 pm

Ackman finds a new scalpโ€ฆ

Bill Ackman
@BillAckman
The owner of Business Insider Mathias Dรถpfner engaged in plagiarism for his PhD ยซ XJMR

I think we are about to find that the whole PhD industry is a house of cards.

This could be bullshit.

The stupid plagiarism software used to freak out at anything that was referenced densely (properly).

Whatโ€™s the guarantee these geniuses had the AI calibrated correctly?

Bruce in WA
January 13, 2024 11:10 pm

I was given some very expensive Mediterranean sea salt formed “thousands of years ago” as a gift.

It had a “Use by” date of 12 months hence. Same with a bottle of “genuine pure glacier water”.

Dot
Dot
January 13, 2024 11:10 pm

So let it be written
So let it be done

Margarine is crap.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 13, 2024 11:11 pm

https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2024/01/spot-on.html

Aged care living, in the White House………

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
January 13, 2024 11:11 pm

KD You are both very boring and unproductive people

I have reflected on this, although I do have a question. This, from the Hun:

Actor Peter Crombie, best known for playing โ€œCrazyโ€ Joe Davola on hit sitcom Seinfeld, has died at age 71.

Do you not shed a tear for Crazy Joe?

Dot
Dot
January 13, 2024 11:12 pm

I have Really enjoyed my interaction with the Cat by getting some inspiration โ€ฆ and son]me slap o the bum โ€ฆ and Wanna Know what ? being Real โ€ฆ Music I hadnt heard before โ€ฆ

Do you like Captain Beefheart?

JC
JC
January 13, 2024 11:13 pm

Whatโ€™s the guarantee these geniuses had the AI calibrated correctly?

With Ackman? Probably 99%. However, he’s wasn’t interrogating any Dopfner’s research. He was reciting the dude’s academic transcript, which stated the doph was caught out plagiarizing.

Mark Bolton
January 13, 2024 11:13 pm

OK Friens but hasnt that been a train wreck conversation … ? Were did it get us .. what \did it turn out to mean ? So I did nt turn out the be :”The Birb ” ,, but in alll Truth wasnt that all utterly un productive?

BTH Any one

Gonna Say a Prayer

For Gonzalo ? As if that Matters?

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 13, 2024 11:15 pm

Small rain here. Not very wet.

Still warm. Horrible day ahead tomorrow.

Colonoscopy Monday, and you all know what that does to Sunday. ๐Ÿ™‚

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 13, 2024 11:17 pm

Digger.
Is my assessment close to the mark that the RAN top brass clung to the Bwitish connection a bit too long and brought their disdain for lower ranks with them from Blighty?
My phrasing “upper ranks infested with Poms” might be a bit harsh, but there you go.

Dot
Dot
January 13, 2024 11:17 pm

The red food colouring people may be thinking about is anatto.

PS

If a vegetable oil had a high proportion of conjugated linolenic acid as the constituent of its triglyceride bulk, how would adding this to butter make much difference?

Mark Bolton
January 13, 2024 11:17 pm

@ Dot … Yes hasn’t everyone herd of Captain Beef Heart ? Does it actually maern anything ? who knows But that you should throw that up as some Shiboleth… .. You are not so unique as you think you are …

In fact You are extremely boring ..

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
January 13, 2024 11:18 pm

\did it turn out to mean ? So I did nt turn out the be :โ€The Birb โ€ ,, but in alll Truth

Here we go.

I understand that it may be frustrating when that last bit of rock spills down in between the couch cushions, and you have to crush up a bit of stolen Tramadol to take the edge off.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 13, 2024 11:18 pm

I just tossed out some 2020 dated opened Worcestershire Sauce, to Hairy’s protests.

That stuff never goes off, he assured me, trying to rescue it.

Unsucessfully. It’s in the bin.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 13, 2024 11:19 pm

Colonoscopy Monday, and you all know what that does to Sunday.

All good wishes, LizzieB. My leech is threatening me with such an indignity.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 13, 2024 11:20 pm

The stupid plagiarism software used to freak out at anything that was referenced densely (properly).

The AI is the bulk churn sorting mechanism.
I don’t think Ackman is stupid enough not to double check whatever it turns up.

JC
JC
January 13, 2024 11:20 pm

Here Dot.

Mathias Dรถpfner (born 15 January 1963) is a German businessman and journalist. He is the CEO and 22% owner of media group Axel Springer SE. From 2016 to 2022 he served as president of the Federal Association of Digital Publishers and Newspaper Publishers (BDZV).

After working as editor-in-chief for several newspapers, he joined the management board of Axel Springer SE in 2000. Friede Springer, head of the media group and widow of founder Axel Springer, designated Dรถpfner as her successor in 2020 and gave voting rights and shares valued at over 1 billion Euros to him in 2021.[1]

Early life and education
Dรถpfner grew up in Offenbach am Main. His mother was a housewife and his father, Dieter C. Dรถpfner, was a university professor of architecture and director of the Offenbach College of Applied Arts from 1966 to 1970.[2]

Dรถpfner studied musicology, German literature and theater science in Frankfurt and Boston. He obtained a Ph.D. in musicology in 1990 from the University of Frankfurt. A committee of the university found in 2023 that he had engaged in scientific misconduct in the handling quotations, but that he could retain his degree.[3][4]

Salvatore, Iron Publican
January 13, 2024 11:21 pm

Hmmm, type into a search engine & it seems my leg is not being pulled.
Macaroni Cheese is real.

First impressions count. Being a fresh set of eyes that had never seen Macaroni Cheese until a couple of minutes ago, I’ll type my impressions for the reading pleasure of those who’ve long since OD’d on images of this delicacy.

Two standout observations:
1/. Any appeal this food has is NOT based on appearance & presentation (it looks thoroughly disgusting)
2/. My cover as chef-about-town-a-bloke-who-can-cook has not been blown by not having this … er.. food item … on my shortlist of recipes.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 13, 2024 11:22 pm

Boltie, no idea what the Booka is. Don’t care much either.

I am talking about the Tomato Superbus, the Tomato Extraordinaire, the tomato over which women faint and strong men fight. The Turkish tomato.

Mark Bolton
January 13, 2024 11:29 pm

@KD you think you are funny and engaging .. you arent … I would be happy to engage with people here who have something usefull and gentle to share …

You are not such an individual and go find your nasty pay off where you will .. not from me ..

Mark Bolton
January 13, 2024 11:33 pm

@!Elizabeth .

Not to be Nasty or snotty but the “Booka” is where I live .. It is a notoriously lower class neighborhood … i am comfortable here …

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
January 13, 2024 11:34 pm

I would be happy to engage with people here who have something usefull and gentle to share โ€ฆ

What are your views on unprocessed versus processed tomatoes

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
January 13, 2024 11:36 pm

Oh my lord.

Tomatoes?
Tomatoes?

JC
JC
January 13, 2024 11:43 pm

Here’s a rough comparison of dairy farm land prices between Denmark and Australia:

Denmark:

Average: DKK 30,000-60,000 per hectare (roughly โ‚ฌ4,000-8,000 per hectare)
Range: DKK 15,000-100,000+ per hectare (โ‚ฌ2,000-13,000+ per hectare)

Australia:

Average: AUD 10,000-20,000 per hectare (roughly โ‚ฌ6,000-12,000 per hectare)
Range: AUD 5,000-30,000+ per hectare (โ‚ฌ3,000-18,000+ per hectare)

I got this from Bard. If this is right, it suggests Australian farming land used for dairy farms is actually more expensive in Australia than Denmark. I don’t know if this is correct, but I’m not going to go checking either.

Mark Bolton
January 13, 2024 11:45 pm

@Elizabeth

You have told you story with you “Ups and downs” and I have read yoiur exposition … there of and have seen very nasty people treating you very unfairly … We are no better than we can be and you “did your best” …What else can we do?

Damon
Damon
January 13, 2024 11:54 pm

“PhD โ€“ Piled high and deep.”

That was funny about 60 years ago.

Digger
Digger
January 13, 2024 11:56 pm

Digger.
Is my assessment close to the mark that the RAN top brass clung to the Bwitish connection a bit too long and brought their disdain for lower ranks with them from Blighty?

I have certainly seen a fairly significant number of RN officers transfer from the RN to the RAN and some of then have risen to significant ranks so their influence is felt. It has occurred in the military civilian ranks as well. I knew the senior engineer in the hyperbaric engineering side of the RAN. He was an ex RN engineering Officer and he clung to the RN ways tightly with both arms. The change-overs had a strong influence early on in the Diving Branch and I think part of that was trying to hold on to the British connection. The CD branch in Australia is now far removed from those staid and entrenched British traditions but it took a couple of generations of resistance to get there.

The same can be said about fire services in Australia, especially in NSW, where the vast majority of senior officers were ex London Fire Brigade and they clung on to their entrenched traditions and British equipment for generations when other nations had far better and more modern equipment in particular.

Mark Bolton
January 14, 2024 12:01 am


Jan 13, 2024 11:53 PM

You have always had a broad and,well informed perspective as to , geopolitically … what is going on … I have always just bleated like a sheep … “Give Peace a Chance” .. and have been mocked relentlessly for that… it doesn’t mean I am clueless as to what is going on .. I just think may be it shouldn’t be .. I grew up in Mining time Tazzi and for some reason think you still live in Tazzie .. I might be wrong ?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 14, 2024 12:04 am

AUD10,000 to 20,000 per hectare.
That equates to AUD 4,000 to 8,000 per acre which sounds very light on for good quality dairy country in SW Victoria or Gippsland.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 14, 2024 12:05 am

Australian dairy land is more expensive because it produces better butter.
Simple as that.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 14, 2024 12:06 am

Good luck with the lobotomy on Monday, Lizzie!

Mark Bolton
January 14, 2024 12:11 am

Sancho Panzer
Jan 14, 2024 12:05 AM

In the supermarket there is an Extra Creamy Milk …when I was a kiddie we drank from the cow… anything else is water. A Glas of Milk If a meal …

I also was inviovlved in a safetey meeting said a man can survive 100 hours without water ,,, BS I say!!! two days and you are on crumplble ,,, but maybe only in the hotter places. ?

Mark Bolton
January 14, 2024 12:15 am

Sancho Panzer
Jan 14, 2024 12:06 AM

Good luck with the lobotomy on Monday, Lizzie!

“Maybe i wasnt in on thr joke but this sounds Hell Unmanly … ”

You dont make Joke like that ..

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 14, 2024 12:24 am

Didn’t you have ECT BoltOn?

Mark Bolton
January 14, 2024 12:30 am

@Sancho Panzer
Jan 14, 2024 12:24 AM

as to ECT ? It works very well It was 40 years ago when i had anything to do with it ..No one really knows how it works …. you had to be there .. it DOES Get them home.

Mark Bolton
January 14, 2024 12:35 am

I was the bloke that helped the quacks with the “Machine” and they were terrified to even put thier hands on .. it .. the premed … oh gosh they were so happy …. and after the ECT got administered…

Mum is back home… Happy …

The “One flew over thr Cuckkos nest … ” well that is fiction … Much and all as it might rev you up …

Seeing Mum go Home …well that made me happy too .

Mark Bolton
January 14, 2024 12:38 am

@Sancho Panzer
Jan 14, 2024 12:24 AM

How about you leave the pathetic Ah Hom with KD And Dot and none of them a re funny … and stick to what you actually know?

Mark Bolton
January 14, 2024 12:43 am

Actually ECT … gets administered under a brief General Anesthetic. With a morphine premed . But Sancho Panzer I am sure you are all across that … Clever Cloggs that ypou are …

JC
JC
January 14, 2024 12:54 am

it DOES Get them home.

So do lobotomies.

Mark Bolton
January 14, 2024 1:00 am

I watched the follks that got the full ECT and they went to sleep happy .. the convulsions? Just tiny movements on the extremities .. the n we had to remove ll the GA stuff which got done very quickly and then they went to sleep for hours … and woke up much improved …

so sparky stick to what you know… huh ?

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
January 14, 2024 1:02 am

[email protected]

Time to soak in the bath.

Mark Bolton
January 14, 2024 1:04 am

Like JC you stick to insulting me and being smart arse with these pathetic jabs … and clueless about everything … Fly free … I see no reaon to interact with you … and wont …

Salvatore, Iron Publican
January 14, 2024 1:10 am

Things are just starting to rev up here, as is usual at this time of a Saturday night.
Just stood watching a road train come down the street, passes the front of the pub almost close enough to touch. The trailers glide past smoothly, no sound, just the glide of the wheels & the rhythmic to & fro of the mudflaps.

After they’ve passed, I always turn to look at the Mansfield bar. To reflect on why it is there, & to wonder, given the different design of trailers compared to the US, if the Mansfield bar actually achieves anything on a road train.

I feel for the truckies. All their problems happen hundreds of miles from home. At least all my issues happen at the furtherest, on my own front doorstep.

And I’ve the social comfort of several co-workers to talk to.

Mark Bolton
January 14, 2024 1:12 am

So does any one here have a good word to say about Gonzalo Lira?

Salvatore, Iron Publican
January 14, 2024 1:15 am

So does any one here have a good word to say about Gonzalo Lira?

What is a Gonzalo Lira?
Be helpful to know which country uses this currency.

Mark Bolton
January 14, 2024 1:17 am

@Salvatore, Iron Publican
Jan 14, 2024 1:10 AM

Beautifull words well spoken … Well said Brother !!

Big machines .. huge responsibilities.

But even when we put a single foot further than the next … arent we in it for ever?

Peace Brother

Mark Bolton
January 14, 2024 1:20 am

@ Salvatore, Iron Publican
Jan 14, 2024 1:15 AM

Well Brother if you don’t know who Gonzallo Lira Was you cant blame us … it is up to you to know where you live..

Love M

Salvatore, Iron Publican
January 14, 2024 1:22 am

Oic, Gonzalo Lira is a bloke. (according to search engine results) Poor bastard. R.I.P.

Mark Bolton
January 14, 2024 1:29 am

@Salvatore, Iron Publican Avatar
Salvatore, Iron Publican
Jan 14, 2024 1:22 AM

Oic, Gonzalo Lira is a bloke. (according to search engine results) Poor bastard. R.I.P.

He was just a wanker ..a poor harmless bastard but they killed him … the murdered him .,. Thanks Mate at least for giving my conjecture some credit and looking into it for yourself …

Peace

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
January 14, 2024 1:33 am

Good stuff from the kids.

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