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Compulsory preferential is definitely the worst, first past the post might work with ballot papers for the same electorate having candidates in different orders, to reduce the power of having top position under the donkey vote. I would prefer optional preferential to proportional (see NZ and the Senate for the less than optimal results that proportional can produce).
Yeah pretty much.
The prevalence of trans on Reddit let alone overt mental illness is remarkable.
Yet Australian journalists behave as if Australia is a communist revolution waiting to happen and stupid voters just need to be nudged in the right direction for the revolution to succeed.
That is because journalists are radicals who aren’t interested in what matters to us and don’t vote or think like us.
But radicals are all that journalism schools are producing.
Australian journalism is effectively a radical political party to the left of the Greens. That’s why no-one in the suburbs takes them seriously.
Or like putting pedos in charge of an orphanage.
I loathe preferential voting. If we had allowances for only voting for one person but no flow on, ok. But my vote is not going to some scumbag ever. I prefer FPP. The scumbags will never allow that.
Fight you bastards, fight.
Thats because it’s unhinged. It’s not possible for sane people to understand loonies.
@ Tom
Jan 14, 2024 6:06 PM
~snip~
. That’s why no-one in the suburbs takes them seriously.
Well that and that they have so comprehensively and transparently lied to us ..
But point taken
It doesn’t matter how big a nuclear warhead is, Queensland let alone regional Queensland, is going to be very low on worldwide target lists.
Crossie
Broadly agree, but see my response above to Cassie. For First Past the Post to produce reasonable results (ie, not just a mass donkey vote for first on the list), the candidates need to be in different orders on the ballot papers in each electorate. That system was (maybe still is) used in the ACT, and possibly Tasmania. IIRC, it is called “Robson Rotation”.
Every conflict has it share of BS ..propaganda …this one is no different …beheaded babies raped women .. humidicribs come in for a smashing .
I think it’s time the dribbling Strap-on pissed off.
PS, another advantage of first past the post is that a vast team of preference counters (and preference whisperers before the vote) would not be needed.
Not quite. There were civilisations in China, Japan and elsewhere. But what we understand as “Western” civilisation was cradled around the Mediterranean. The word itself is from Latin.
What have the Romans ever done for us? 🙂
@ Boambee John
Jan 14, 2024 6:12 PM
Elections are always going to require paid staff. Perferential Voting wont be that different .. But we can vote First a Minor and preference down the ballot.
ZK2A:
In short, “You’re a Jew. Go away, Jew.”
He’s probably lucky – they sound like they’re the type who would take him to the cleaners if there was any defect in the child. And they’d probably get a favourable decision from our courts.
Despite the words they’ve just used, Love is love – unless you’re Jewish.
Queensland let alone regional Queensland, is going to be very low on worldwide target lists.
Are you sure both sides wouldn’t lob at least one each to ensure the Katters didnt take over the smoking ruins of the world?
NYT:
In other words, short of sending in troops, they will do as they please.
PS, another advantage of first past the post is that a vast team of preference counters (and preference whisperers before the vote) would not be needed.
The UK has first past the post. I can see the merits of it but minor parties struggle to cut through under first past the post, even more than under preferential. Nigel Farage and others have spoken of their frustration with first past the post.
What I do like about the UK system is that, on election night, ALL candidates have to appear under the one roof to hear the results.
someone might like to share this with Mary
One of the huge problems the US has is that every time they have done this sort of thing they have made sure that they held the high ground in the “Information Battle Space ” … but it has worn thin . Every time it happens it is a fresh emergency … a new call to panic. Assad is gassing His Own People … horrors !!! .. but after a few decades it ceases to even have impact in the “West” ..
The rest of the planet has just gotten steadily more pissed off .
All voting systems have their disadvantages. For me, optional preferential is the best.
First past the post entrenches two party systems.
Proportional represention results in tiny minorities holding the balance of power.
Compulsory preferential means having to vote for people you abhor, and results in gaming such as we see in the Senate.
Optional preferential means that you never have to vote for anyone you don’t like. You can put 1 in a box and leave it, if you want FPP.
None of them are perfect, but IMHO it’s the best option.
Another reform worth pursuing is secret voting in Parliament. The arguments in favour of that are the same as the arguments in favour of secret voting for Parliament.
But this would break the power of the party machines, and therefore would never be allowed.
Argentina,no postal votes vote on the day photo ID .
SIMPLES
In other words preferential voting, except we have to go back a 2nd time.
John H:
I reject your premise:
Two parts to the conversation:
Thyroid cancer is an issue we can deal with by being prepared. That leaves resources available for other emergencies.
Second part is the most severely affected part of the population – babies and children. Not a very good deal to spend millions of dollars educating, training, feeding and clothing children if they die at 20 from an easily prevented cancer.
A third aspect is do we want to be a society that refuses to spend $20 to save a child’s life?
I didn’t see the Apache helicopters.
Figures
Jan 14, 2024 3:34 PM
It sounds like there’s a couple of … girls (Lets be charitable) who would clamour for his “Vital Fluids” as long as he can produce a ‘Judenfrei’ birth certificate.
One wonders how much the withdrawal of U.S assets from Yemen has affected the intel gathering ability. Someone who knows more than I, might be able to explain what complementary/additional benefits humint has?
Thanks for that, Squire – I’ll check it out – must admit I stopped listening to them back in the mid eighties. Didn’t even know they’d released anything after then.
Although how you would surpass this Epic* remains to be seen (or heard) …
*1983
Eek! Who is “his”?
And which girls?
Crikey, it’s difficult sometimes to decipher what you guys mean.
Or are you talking about the Nazi Lesbots refusing the Jewish gay’s contribution to their “family” because tainted?.
Every conflict has deployed horror propaganda porn … go back to WWI and the bayoneting of Belgian babies. It hasn’t gotten any less craven nor have actual atrocities been more effectively covered up .
I am not saying this with any reference to any recent conflict … disgusting as it is there seems no end to it.
That last para sums up where we are in mid Jan 2024 by the way.
I’m sure our society can be dumber. How much? Anyone’s guess.
But in America, having to provide ID to vote is apparently “racist.”
Never mind that you won’t get past first base in many aspects of daily life without proof of ID. Even something as simple as picking up a parcel from the post office.
Well said.
Ignoring previous civilisations, or dowgrading them because they were not the same as ours, is a big mistake which resembles the very modern one of not caring about anything that happened before one got one’s first electronic device.
Despite modern fantasies to the contrary, people were people with the same vices and virtues and temptations as we have today.
The Pyramids are large scale versions of the lavish extensions to the local Italian Club that eventually sent it broke. The desire to build monuments (preferably with other people’s money) seems to be a feature of every civilised society.
From what we know of Egypt and Greece and Rome, human triumphs and failings have not changed much, despite the variance in mores.
The bush pig is triggered.
albansleazey talks and sounds like a significantly mentally impaired thirteen year old.
An insight into what is actually being thought, rather than guessing what we might wish is being thought?
… temperatures of about 100 million degrees Celsius at its centre
@ calli
Jan 14, 2024 6:48 PM
I disagree… there is an error in thought “Things aren’t what they used to be !! …but Where they ever … ?
I reckon things now are pretty much better than they ever have been …
Yes, Joh. Even what we think of as “democracy” didn’t start as such. More learned Cats than me can expand on Pericles’ Athens and beyond.
It has always been evolutionary as well as revolutionary. All with its own carpet of blood.
KD at 4:55.
Unless, of course, you are a flinty eyed tour bus driver from Queensssland.
Indeed.
They may have an agreement for the donor to take part in the child’s life as a male influence, then realised their ethical confusion at having a Jew regularly visit their home.
I guess that’s it. The bush pig doubts the veracity of the information even though part of the info came directly from Google and the feral refers to my greatness. trans decides to enter the stoush stupid and irrelevant as usual.
Thanks for conceding ladies. We’re done?
Yet Australian journalists behave as if Australia is a communist revolution waiting to happen ..
I say bring it on but you can leave that communist shit in the bin outside. Im thinking French guillotine style and i have a list of names ready to go. Starting with A. Albo!
Cohenite:
I think it depended more on the environment weeding out the inbred kids who were sickly and not probably going to make good mothers and fathers.
It seems to me that the whole clan thing has only gained the popularity it has now as Aboriginals had to formalise the more distant relationships – e.g. mums knew who their children were, and children knew their mothers, but it started getting a little hazy as to who the fathers were. Which is probably where the apocryphal story of the dNA tracing of ?Christmas Island Aboriginals started to show who was related to who and who fathered what child with what mother.
Look, I haven’t seen the study, it was claimed to have been done but there is no known record of it to my knowledge. And anyway, when culling of defectives is present, does it matter?
Only to the culled, and they’re dead.
You are a kind man, Katz. I’m not so convinced.
You should know your society is on the verge of collapse when you can freely hoover a “Tim Tam McFlurree“* while reaffirming your latest gender at a taxpayer funded reassignment concrete box facility. 😕
*WTF?
My opinion, for what it’s worth, is that what makes western European civilization unique and great is the fusion between the philosophy and democracy handed down from ancient Greece, the empire of ancient Rome, and finally, and perhaps most importantly, the Judaic/Christian religion and ethics. We live, or used to live, in a syncretic society based on all three.
It’s collapsing as I write.
I remember the Cat having well argued Conservative opinions …
“I say bring it on but you can leave that communist shit in the bin outside. Im thinking French guillotine style and i have a list of names ready to go. Starting with A. Albo!”
Would the Cat ever have stood for such mindless monkey poo flinging?
I have a hankering for a turnip kugel, made with lots of oil and pepper.
Oh nonsense. It’s one of the top ten principal targets of every nuclear power. North Korea has even made threats against Toowoomba every few months calling it its number 2 target in an attack.
They may have an agreement for the donor to take part in the child’s life as a male influence, then realised their ethical confusion at having a Jew regularly visit their home.
That’s what I thought, which means they’ve pulled because he is a Jew. I’m becoming increasingly distressed at this unabashed, unashamed, open Jew hatred.
Do you really want nobody to know what your MP (or anyone else’s) voted for or against?
Brown paper bags rool, OK!
Sheesh.
As I found out in 2010, when residing in Grayndler …
Summed up in three simple words…
The command turned the world on its head.
JC: hey Siri, the US manufacturing economy is vastly bigger now than it was in 1941, right?
AI: considering the time value of money and the fact that …
JC: but the numbers are bigger right?
AI: in 1941 the US economy pivoted …
JC: but they’re bigger … obviously
AI: stfu JC
The west is indebted to ancient Greece, ancient Rome, Judaism and Christianity. But human history is filled with many other advanced civilizations, it’s just that I wouldn’t have wanted to live in Aztec ruled Mexico or Inca ruled Peru.
Tom, these same fools have killed a lot of newspapers in the last couple of decades. Even with the predations of internet advertising that resulted in the loss of revenue the newspapers could have survived if they reflected more their readership rather than the their journalists. If you look at the current surviving newspapers the ones who are not losing money are the right-leaning ones.
SMH, The Age and several other lefty papers are now just kept alive by publishers such as Channel 9 as vanity projects, there really aren’t enough lefties to make them commercially viable. The newly minted radical journalists will eventually kill those publications and thus their own profession. On the other hand, nobody needs their kind of expertise and most times bloggers and X-Tweeters are better at delivering news and opinions than the journalism school credentialed cretins.
Would the Cat ever have stood for such mindless monkey poo flinging?
You might want to duck.
But, but, but, they seemed to be a normal personage!
Trigger warning: The image above is courtesy of moozley arabs, post October 7 2023.
adolph would be mighty proud that his unfinished work is still underway, apparently.
@ calli
Jan 14, 2024 7:07 PM
Indeed “You shall love” and with all the ramifications of such a notion …. a civiliztion can be built that not only is … blindingly beautiful from it’s art and buildings … but some where I would quite like to live ….
And ” bones on my bum as i kinda am” .. I DO live here and I Love it…
M
johanna at 6:32
What I don’t like about preferential voting is that by distributing the preferences of the person who got the least primary votes they are by definition the least representative segment of the electorate.
Veitman Bob Whittaker, come on down, you hideously uglee ol’ communist imbecile*!
*BIRM
Fair point.
Such a Hegelian comment
5 times bigger Trans, you mindless nincompoop.
Part of the figures came from here:
The up to date one came from the St Louis Fed.
You should STFU, God Oracle.
Such a big ball of happiness. Happy Hammond.
I don’t know who wrote it a long time ago (Cicero?), but it was something to the effect that a city or civilisation can withstand a lot of things, including the enemy without, but it cannot survive the enemy within.
Isn’t the US presidential vote FPP? And didn’t they need weeks to count it in 2020 yet still get it wrong?
Crossie, what’s interesting is when these ancient civilisations, which were very sophisticated and organised, went head to head with the West.
The Meiji, the Empress, the King of Siam, the Rajahs. All the stories, rich and different and tinged with sadness. In the end the “market” won.
it cannot survive the enemy within.
We laugh at honour, and are shocked to find traitors in our midst.
MT: hey Siri … push JC’s buttons will ya?
AI: I cant do that Dave, his core is already at millions of degrees C … he could go critical
@ Lee
Jan 14, 2024 7:19 PM
On a slightly skew direction .. the enemies of the State ” Love the Treason but hate the Traitor” on the micro scale but it also applies in the Macro … BLM … you will burn .. well those of you that took it seriously and didnt grab the money and run …. But I hope someone is looking from you ..
Wrong. It’s neither unabashed or unashamed, This version was slathered over with messages about love and compassion and all that, and you really need to stop acting as though you are in the IDF under fire.
This dickhead (almost certainly gay) decided that he could preserve his immortality by ‘connecting’ with a couple of leftie lesbians who wanted a sperm donor – on the other side of the continent.
At the first sign of ideological impurity – in this case, being Jewish – they hung him out to dry.
They are both abashed and ashamed, as they told him to f*** off without telling him the real reason. Otherwise, they would have come out with it, instead of all this flannel about being ‘conflicted.’
If you are not overly attached to the democratic rights attaching to citizenship (“I’m only here for the sausage sizzle”) this is where the cock and balls option kicks in.
Isn’t the US presidential vote FPP? And didn’t they need weeks to count it in 2020 yet still get it wrong?
Yes and no, it’s the electoral college votes that count
Self described- fastest on a building site.
The frolicking moll:
They laugh about this bloke, but he’s right.
He doesn’t like Communism, and the people who ridicule him are Communists who have never been able to make Communism work without producing piles of skulls..
The idiot young Kelpies haven’t learned that the heat of the day is to be spent flopping around in the shade. They charge around like lunatics until they collapse and make near death noises.
I gave them a bowl of ice cubes. The effect was hilarious. The look of absolute wonder on their pointy little faces when they took one into their mouth. They soon learned the the best fun was pushing cubes around with their noses which naturally led to a pile on as three energy bombs attempted to capture the cubes.
God I’m going to miss the little scrotes.
@ johanna
Jan 14, 2024 7:24 PM
WOW Girl you are something else. VenomRUs .. as you tipped it on folks.
Wouldnt want to be U …
FMB
New series of Muster Dogs.
Thar she blows!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXD4A9uFHcg
That’s a live cam. Iceland is being fun again, the eruption started half an hour ago.
Went out to see a few bands last night.
They were ok……… sub-headers Fool Nelson were good in a geetar-spanking way, headliners Old Mervs were like a boys’ own Florence and the Machine. A bit light on for ideas, but very slick crowd wrangling, good drummer.
They sold a distressing amount of t-shirts.
@ Bruce of Newcastle
Jan 14, 2024 7:29 PM
Oh Indeed … as i opined in the final moments of not being killed in a bush fire … A Planet that wasnt trying constantly to kill Us would be bereft of all Life already ….
so WALK .. dont run .. and in the right direction …
Love you Possums …
cohenite
Pricing of consumables and power will be critical.
400 litres/day isn’t much for what you’re getting.
I’d like to see some development in a couple of years – they may be on to something for remote areas.
And…Maverick is on Ten. I avoided The Project until the last possible second.
Bons, when the young pups bundle off, you should find a kelpie-whippet cross. All the brains, even more speed, but smartly bludge during the downtime.
Then they go crespuscularly bonkers, usually when I’m keen to put my feet up, having been out in the noonday sun like a nonce.
My thought was so much for their friendship as they must have known about his Jewish identity from the start. These women were never his friends.
@ calli
Jan 14, 2024 7:39 PM
~snip~ The Project ~snip~
Just say No ..
These are my Mutts Of The Week.
Look at the tail length! Imagine the acceleration!!!! Think of the cornering!!!!!!!!!
Small beer in my view. Not an all-in and shock and awe conflict by a superior force.
You may know more about this than I do, Dover, but I do rather get the feeling that you think Israel should withdraw from Gaza now, which may direct your perceptions that Israel is weak, overwhelmed and can’t win, perceptions I don’t share, having been to Israel and seen first hand their determination to survive. Just reading the news about Yemen over the last few years, to me nothing has seemed particularly hard fought whereas a halt in Red Sea trade is a bridge too far. That said, I’m prepared to suggest that middle eastern politics are murky, as ever, especially from this distance. Pundits too vary so much about it all.
Just been looking at this live cam. There’re three or four front end loaders parked just near the light on the RHS. Lava is moving towards them…about 100 m away.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAQzsB9ev9Q
It’s for the child’s own good. Children of their lessie and gay friends would refuse to go on playdates with it (git/zit).
What’s bin happenin’?
I bin busy today doin’ my risk analysis.
Meteorite shelter … tick.
Iodine bought … tick.
Piranha protective equipment … tick.
Sinkhole recovery kit … tick.
That covers the biggies I think.
You are missing the point, which is that civilisation is not unique to Europe.
Johanna, certainly not. Votes in parliament must be made public as the MPs are representing us and we need to know how they are doing it.
Tomorrow’s job – get the kryptonite kit together.
Someone needs to review Hamas’s own video before pontificating, again.
You know the video taken inside Gaza on the 7th of October of them dragging Naama Levy from the boot of a stolen Israeli military vehicle into the back-seat of said vehicle, followed by two or three terrorists, observing the heavy blood stains on the back of her pants and then said yeah nah allegations of rape are just Israeli propaganda.
Not to mention there is, as not widely circulated, video of the same vehicle inside Gaza while there is a rape taking place ,with a bunch of ‘innocent civilians’ peering in the windows.
As though Hamas terrorists are just too gentlemanly to rape Jewish women.
Also ‘the woman in the black dress’.
Bear, embrace the word ‘optional.’ 🙂
You are missing the point, which is that civilisation is not unique to Europe.
No I did not, read my later comment. Civilizations are not unique to Europe, there were advanced civilizations in Asia, Africa and central and south America. But European civilization is unique, a cocktail of the Greeks, Romans, Judaism and Christianity.
Five times bigger since 1941? Horrific ROI.
Look, JC. I know many (not all) of these people are idiots, but you don’t do yourself any favours by being lazy and just disagreeing with everything.
It’s a much more complex conversation than ‘tis vs ‘tisn’t
Calli @ 7.39 pm
Maverick, the Western TV series from the early 1960’s starring James Garner ??
Exactly, the better product sold better as people want something uplifting and positive.
All this “brethren of the diminutive millinery ” Oi Vey .. is boring and it wont work .. plenty of Jews are not Zionists .. as to he propaganda .. i.e. the paucity of beheaded babies. Can you not see that this just damages your cause ? Which is in trouble anyways?
Not true, most Jews are Zionists.
I think it’s time to nuke this Bird.
But for good or ill, a contingent were ordering 6 million pizzas … you have tottally played into that.
We’ll be spending a lot more than $20 because the risk is lifelong for children. Thyroid cancer rates rise but not that much, especially compared to stomach, liver and lung. The latter, and leukemia, are the big cancer killers but even then require rather high radiation doses to be hugely elevated.
It might be moot because a modern conflict will be thermonuclear. Lower radiation, much more infrastructure damage.
You know the video taken inside Gaza on the 7th of October of them dragging Naama Levy from the boot of a stolen Israeli military vehicle into the back-seat of said vehicle, followed by two or three terrorists,
Indeed, and I will never forget the image of Naama’s bloodstained pants, she was bleeding from her vagina and anus.
@ Cassie of Sydney
Jan 14, 2024 8:03 PM
Even if they are .. there is a real politic … always has been …
But not China.
Traditional China had a very hard and exacting, merit-based, entrance exam for aspirants to the bureaucracy. Once you were in, (assuming you didn’t screw up badly) you were set for life.
Less exacting versions used to apply to the UK and Australian Public Service. I (blush) did one and was immediately put into the policy stream because I could spell and construct a sentence. Doubt that I would have pased the Chinese test.
The history of Chinese civilisation alone would blow the tiny minds of the whiners and agitators on X and Instagram and all the rest. They are like 17th century peasants somewhere in central Europe in terms of their understanding of anything outside their village.
John B
Fine, I appreciate your commentary, but what do you think I’m getting wrong with the situation in the Red Sea?
I’m being told the Hootie Tooties aren’t a push over even though they have a per capita GDP of US$700. They messing with the largest military in the world and I’m told they’re not messing around and the US should be wary of these rebels. I’m told the US military is no longer what it used to be, even though in real terms military spending is reaching Cold War levels as a percentage of GDP. Do a bunch of camel drivers lobbing missiles at world shipping frighten the largest military in the world?
I think it’s time to nuke this Bird.
Yep, particularly after its disgraceful comment at 8:03
This is not the first time you’ve seen fit to raise this.
Have you seen the vision?
If not – why not, if you have an opinion strong enough to mention it?
If so – what would you like? Have the beheaded infants flown to the ‘Booka and loaded into an Australia Post van to your house, so you can see and touch them and provide a subsequent in-depth analysis?
How long would you have liked these dismembered toddlers above ground for?
If the undisputed vision is not enough for you – well, grab a shovel and book a ticket.
Oh Indeed … Cassie … and the ghastly Russsians murdering civilians as the with drew from Bucha … and the Horrifiying inhumanity of the Russian airforce with the Airstrike on the “Humanitarian Convoy” outr of Damascus … and the gas attack that Assad did “On His own People” !!
Perhaps this atrocity DID actually happen ?
I dont want to engage you people over this … if only to say that the propaganda Porn that is being trotted out could have come from any conflict … I know it is meat and bread for you folks …
Have at it …
Shortening at 500 degrees F.
Floured, spiced and breaded.
Let Mr Dover cook!
Walli, ta.
I’ll seek the approval of the resident mistress dog to pursue your generous advice.
I see the rAndOm CapiTals fAd has kicked off again.
The distinctive feature of western civilisation is its mathematics, science and engineering. It conquered the asian civilisations because it had superior weapons technology. Uplift had nothing to do with it.
Too late.
You decided to ‘engage’. Either debate, or let the remaining painkillers take the edge off the rock and watch a kaleidoscope screensaver for the next 72 hours.
Except to say that this was why the Ukranians .. the SBU Murdered Gonzalo Lira …because he pointed out just how slopply theier .. “Mastrery of the Information Battle Space was … Most of ua could pick it any ways ..
I would be leery of any Jew who was not a Zionist.
As I thought, it was Cicero who wrote about the enemy within.
Here’s the quote:
A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself.
Marcus Tullius Cicero
JC
Jan 14, 2024 7:18 PM
Such a Hegelian comment
Don’t be a fuking wanker.
johanna
Are you really happy knowing that there really needs be only a couple of whips from each side in a division? Each reports the current numbers on their side and the law passes? With tight party discipline, that is what we have now.
Sheeesh.
PS, the trick with secret voting in Parliament is that the distributors of brown paper bags cannot actually be sure who took the money and voted their conscience, and who stayed bought. It puts a significant element of uncertainty into the process.
To quote Cohenite, “FFS I am so sick of this shit”.
I had sky weekend live on the other screen. Without comment they broadcast a Palliwood propaganda cartoon complete with false blood on infants, screaming mums, angry areseholes, and the next “last available hospital”.
Cassie, Calli, and Delta.
Are women experts on how women think?
(This become topical at 3:09pm.)
Military conflict exists , sadly it always has . It is uglier than you might even suppose if trusted Men who were involed in the Indochina conflict are to be believed … And i DO belive them …
So has propaganda.
Crossie
The extra time was needed to manufacrure extra votes to get Creepy Joe over the line. The counting was largely done on election night, then had to be adjusted.
However, allowing a delay for postal votes to arrive did not help.
I’m only an expert on how I think.
Others may think as they will.
Queensland let alone regional Queensland
Amberley.
And the same Weekend Live show was praising the Liars for cracking down on chop chop because – the excise loss. $136m to be spent apparently.
And right on cue, Littleproud pops up and supports the liars because – excise loss.
Um, skuse me chaps. What are the excise regulations in relation to teen killing little white pills – animals.
Maybe though Western civilisation had another advantage in that it offered optimism in the form of being able to atone for past sins, make amends and start again in this life. Asian civilisations in particular had an honour code that demanded death rather than atonement. Even in light of reincarnation theology which would you choose, death or atonement?
Yea sure someone’s going to waste a nuke on a qld raaf base.
I said important targets, not minor ones.
This one’s for agricultural Cats.
Making preparations to truck off the last of the sheep flock.
Farm diary shows the first lambs were born on the place in 1926.
Thanks very much, Labor and the fvcking Greens.
Hence spies, and loose borders.
Fun fact, which most here probably know.
James Garner played Maverick in the late-50s/early-60s TV series, then reappeared in a supporting role for the film over 30 years later.
Bird was doing so well. Lucky the Middle East didn’t blow up while Snic was moderating. He would have needed overtime getting every second post out of moderation.
It might be moot because a modern conflict will be thermonuclear. Lower radiation, much more infrastructure damage.
Depends if they use the third stage or not. Thermonukes have a fission trigger, fusion package and if desired, a third stage which consists of a U238 jacket over the whole thing. The U238 undergoes fission from the neutron flux and considerably adds to the yield and fallout. IIRC they left the third stage out of Tsar Bomba.
Mark and Mary sitting in a tree
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha at 8:30 – suspect you won’t be the only one. Processing in Australia was always a marginal proposition and I doubt that will change any time soon.
That’s the way you want to run Parliament?
My flabber is gasted.
We already know how they are doing their job.
Party discipline is such that most do not bother to read legislation, as they know their party whips will tell them how to vote.
I once had the dubious pleasure of drafting a response to a ministerial, in which a Labor MHR was complaining about the effect a certain law, passed by Labor in government, was having on some of his constituents.
My boss rejected the bit pointing out that he had been part of the government that passed the (now seen as obnoxious) law.
Rosie
Jan 14, 2024 8:30 PM
Au contraire, via Wikipedia
Not exactly minor.
Rosie, Amberley is a RAAF superbase. F-18 Super Hornets, F-18G electronic warfare aircraft, E-7 Wedgetail AWACS at least some of the time, A330 Tanker/Transports and our small fleet of C-27 Mini Hercs as well as the C-17 transport fleet. Take it out and the RAAF is considerably degraded.
People don’t usually get a choice of which culture to belong.
Australian aborigines did, and most opted for ours. But I suspect it was the access to the good things of a material life that swayed them rather than abstractions.
Sorry guys…I meant the second instalment of Top Gun.
Although the second version of Maverick is also a favourite. Speaking of Mel, The Patriot is also playing tonight on 7Mate.
The Beloved was spoiled for choice.
Isn’t R.A.A.F. Amberly the largest operational base in Australia?
Most non-Zionist Jews don’t have Jewish grandchildren.
Please don’t tell me Williamtown is the other one.
@DrBeauGan
Jan 14, 2024 8:41 PM
Yes they did .. either went onto just being a lowly “wukka” just like the rest of us … or got into crime and did very poorly at it … saw them in clink … or went the Toyota Dreaming route …
The “wukka” one worked for me.. some dignity in that ?
Space Shuttle.
That definitely would put it high on the list, or something.
Townsville, Laverack Barracks… 1,2 and 3 RAR, 2 Cav and HQ 3 Brigade
The ‘superior force’ right now has failed to re-open the Red Sea, and as indicated upthread, an air campaign will most probably be unable to prevent the Houthis from interdicting shipping passing through.
If you think that Parliament is not already largely run that way, your flabber is already totally gasted. Under the [resent system, the payers know if the payee delivers or not. Under secret voting, they do not. An element of uncertainty enters the equation.
J.C:
Then why did you say I did?
Switzerland has been taking measures to deal with its low levels of iodine for over a 100 years, you dingaling.
As for the rest of your ‘repudiation’, are you feeling better now that you’ve been able to scream at someone?
Yes?
Feeling moist and in control?
Empowered?
Is that your fantasy? You can hire those outfits, you know.
Another crazy idea of yours that you’ve turned into your reality.
Increase the Largactil, J.C. this dosage is NOT working.
You are going to come back in your next life as a 1960’s projector. You have the technique down almost perfect.
… present system …, which some might resent.
We were talking about potential nuclear targets, in the scheme of things if Amberley were a target Brisbane would be annihilated.
This entire discussion is nonsense. Please forgive me for not rushing out to buy a gallon of iodine.
I studied Ancient History and Latin in high school, and what it a boon it was.
Cicero would have been a master politician and writer if he was around today. When I studied Latin, it was so easy to read – flowing, logical, clear – the only contemporary I can think of is Denning, a British judge who was both influential and literate.
I dropped out of law not least because I hated reading cases written by blowhards with minimal writing skills. Until you’ve tried it, you have no idea how opaque, overblown, illiterate, confused and just plain nonsensical many judgements are.
Of course, this creates rich fields for further disputes down the track. It’s a self-licking ice-cream.
Someone upthread had mentioned Miss Austen Regrets. I had seen this when in came out in 2007 and forgotten it. Normally I don’t like the attempts to flesh out our Jane’s life, but I must say on rewatching this version that it captured some of the magic of her novels. I can only hope the great lady experienced some of the speculative episodes depicted in this very good movie.
Supposed to be a third episode of “Top Gun” on the drawing board.
@dover0beach
Jan 14, 2024 8:50 PM
I cannot be sure .. it is very confusing. But from the garbled messages it seems the Yemani militia are fine with red sea traffic provided it isnt going to Isreal … and will back off for sure if Gaza stops being light up… as usual no one is telling the Truth ..
hmm, pretty sure that’s one of your own constructions numb-nuts
… are losing track of all the bull-dust that you invent in yr head JC?
LOL
Yet there are no nuclear power plants in Queensland
No.
Sorry, Colonel. I was trying to compose a serious reply for you, taking into consideration all the layers of female society: political inclinations, socio economic groups, ages, marital status… you get the picture.
In the end; no. We have no more idea about how women (in general) think than you blokes do.
@ johanna
Jan 14, 2024 8:54 PM
Wise career choice ..
How about we choose 100 people at random from the phone book, then vote for five people out of them to run each state?
Nope.
I’m fresh out of ideas, except for the system we’ve got isn’t working for shit.
Sperm is Jewish…stand well back.
I dropped out of law not least because I hated reading cases written by blowhards with minimal writing skills. Until you’ve tried it, you have no idea how opaque, overblown, illiterate, confused and just plain nonsensical many judgements are.
I have never read a bad Judgment. Ill considered and destructive ones no doubt but not bad. Lord Denning had some interesting views about pooftas and blacks. The best Judgments I have read were by Lionel Murphy. Apart from any thing else they were always short.
Zulu, that’s a bit sh*t.
Humphrey, I still maintain that there are forces colluding to reduce the sheep flock to the point where shearing and slaughtering are unworkable- live exports being done and dusted to all intensive purposes. Funnily enough, the well-supported championing of “regenerative” agriculture- which is in itslef a stalking horse for Forever Carbon Accounting- seems predicated on cattle, at least for the time being.
@dopey
Jan 14, 2024 9:00 PM
The fragrant here and now is mercifully not one …. despite the best efforts of our “brethren of the diminutive millanary” .. we like such discussinons as to amphibians or cehpelopods …
Jew … or other wise … human generative fluids are facinating and easy to scroll by … but cn you kindly ease up on it a bit .?
https://twitter.com/Poppy_yyyyyyyy/status/1746192500954456147
These idiots are going to be the beneficiaries of the greatest transfer of wealth in history as the old farts die off. And they have no idea of how wool gets to their cupboards in the form of clothes, or how food gets to the kitchen table, or how the electricity gets to their iPads.
They are going to piss it all against the wall, and their children will be impoverished paupers.
The second volcano live cam I put up has been mesmerising.
There was a bunch of earth moving machinery sitting on a berm*. Looked like it was going to be fried – lava was metres away on two sides.
Then a few minutes ago someone sent a rescue party, three car loads of guys in fluoros arrived, ran 100 m along the edge of the lava front then proceeded to recover the earth movers. First the front end loader, then the backhoes, and now they’re extracting the trucks. It was like watching a movie, only it’s real. Well done guys!
(* I think the berm was being built to divert lava from exactly this sort of eruption, but from what I see the fissure neatly bisected the berm and is erupting on either side of it. Bummer. Volcanoes do what they want to do, we humans can only guess and hope.)
Australian aborigines did, and most opted for ours. But I suspect it was the access to the good things of a material life that swayed them rather than abstractions.
I’ll credit the dusky-skinned assembly on being able to see the link between Christian ethics, the sanctity of the nuclear family, and the equal rights of all, Dr.
The generation being now raised by Gramsci and TikTok… maybe not so much.
dammit
insert “prosperity” where “equal rights” is
You could take out Amberley with a nuke and depending on size used , Brisbane could survive just fine.
Yes Rosie, Amberley as a RAAF superbase is totally not a target.
@Bruce of Newcastle
Jan 14, 2024 9:09 PM
How Cool!! As a a Volunteer Bush Fire guy I was never trained how to “Extinguish the Planet” but I would have used it as an excuse to be right on site… Hooorah!!!
I’ve got to restrain myself from thumping one of the local Greenies.
No. 1 target in Australia would be communications/ intelligence stations like Pine Gap. Anything that assists/ hosts US forces would also be targeted. Many ICBMs have multiple warheads. A single one could hit 10 different targets.
I hope their children starve, in the freezing dark.
Winston, I didn’t even have to turn the sound on to see the stupidity of the chick in that link. Mind, as TG would say, she’s a WB.
I find the best question to ask the up and coming generation who make the videos like Poppy above, is.
Trust me, it’s difficult to not laugh hysterically.
Anywhere is a potential target, it just depends on who’s throwing around nukes, which at the moment is nobody.
I do hope you have a decent stock of completely useless to people aged over 45 iodine though.
Johanna:
How about just three parties allowed and we get to pick which one?
It forms a centralist party that continually drags the extremes back to the citizen centre.
Dunno, it needs more work.
A LOT more work.
The Icelandic TV station has already uploaded some of the footage. It’s a blast. The coastguard helicopter flew over while I was watching the webcam, the visuals are something else – a volcano erupting half a kilometre from the town.
An eruption has begun north of Grindavík (14 Jan)
@ Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Jan 14, 2024 9:17 PM
Having read what you just posted …. what were you thinking? Brother? Were you ever carrying arms on my behalf? I hope that the most challenging conflict you ever engaged in was with the MPs … A man with such a malignant attitude …as you are portraying … brings shame on me as an Australian and Men who saw combat.
Breaking!
Space shuttle program has been cancelled.
Repeat … Space shuttle program has been cancelled.
She’s an example of what happens when a culture has more wealth than is good for it, and distributes the wealth to everybody including the idiots.
It won’t last. The idiots will destroy the machinery which produces the wealth, and we’ll be back to mass poverty in a few generations.
calli
Eek! Who is “his”? (The Jewish bloke that was rejected because ‘complicated’.)
And which girls? (The two …girls who were stymied by one of them not having the correct wedding tackle for procreation despite having the correct ideological theories.)
Crikey, it’s difficult sometimes to decipher what you guys mean.
Or are you talking about the Nazi Lesbots refusing the Jewish gay’s contribution to their “family” because tainted?. (Yes. Them’s the ones.)
Good question.
Um, no, it hasn’t been. Now being launched by Elon. 😀
SpaceX Falcon Heavy launches X-37B plane, one of the US military’s most fascinating secrets (29 Dec)
Somehow I doubt it is in orbit to grow seeds. That’s an even lamer excuse than usual.
Listen up, champ.
Don’t you dare speak on behalf of ‘Men* who saw combat’.
I don’t speak on behalf of those men. I served and did my time, and was prepared to do more. I did not see combat, although plenty of my colleagues did.
The two generations prior in my family did see combat – my grandfather on the Western Front, and my uncle was first Australian killed in Vietnam with the Team in 1963 (which, naturally, you would have no idea about).
I don’t presume to speak for them on contemporary matters, and never would. Because you have apparently listened to someone who claimed to have done the yards, whether it be in the front bar of some pub or in the bin does not give you the imprimatur to speak on what may or may not offend them.
Please continue with your profound, from-the-top-of-the-mountain statements apropos of how hands across the ocean will conquer all, how hard done by you are despite the cornucopia of jobs you have apparently had – all of which is interspersed with lightly buttered antisemitism – because despite your repeated assertions of ‘peace’ the filters are getting thin.
NB: Gonzalo is dead. Nobody cares.
*rAndom capItals again.
One of the signs of JC back peddling because his arse has been handed to him today more than a rent boy at a Labor End of year party.
Give up JC, go back to gazing in your mirror and polishing your ego.
You’re done.
Now do your normal schtick, declare victory and scurry off, there’s a good lad.
more Apache helicopters
Fire fountains at dawn. Breathtaking.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAQzsB9ev9Q (live cam)
The greenhouse operators (the building about 100m from the lava front) may get lucky, the flow already seems to be slowing
It’s very rare for a husband to be found hanged with a smile on his face but it does happen.
@ Bruce of Newcastle
Jan 14, 2024 9:51 PM
that we inhabit a thin cool skin over ball of raging nuclear fire … and we get away with this ??? Wanna Marry my Sister ?
I don’t have a problem with it, whatever works is a good idea whether materialistic or spiritual.
I don’t believe you even believe that dishonest bilge you just posted , turtlehead .
Keep trying with the face saving schtick though. Someone gullible enough will eventually buy into it although you’ve only recruited one bonehead in all the years you’ve been low renting the cat.
How’s the Melbourne airport invasion going?