Open Thread – Mon 15 Jan 2024


Wanderer above the Sea of Fog, Caspar David Friedrich, 1818

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calli
calli
January 15, 2024 6:55 pm

I heard a different “take” on the non-merchandising of Australia Day today. And that is that the local warehouses are bulging with inflatable thongs and plastic flags and that it doesn’t move because no one wants it.

This was from an obvious dyed in the wool anti-AusDayian.

Sooooo…if you did have excess stock, and there was a clear demand…wouldn’t you stock it just to clear it and make a small margin?

The person I spoke to was clearly not a business owner.

I’m sticking with my “whoops!” Referendum theory.

calli
calli
January 15, 2024 6:56 pm

Air hellair! The Great Aussie Thong makes page podium!

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
January 15, 2024 6:59 pm

This is David Irving stuff.

The comments under her sharts are straight out of the “jews rule the world” handbook.
I haven’t spotted a direct link to the protocols, but Im betting a lot of her supporters aren’t unfamiliar with it.

calli
calli
January 15, 2024 7:01 pm

Sorry. Wouldn’t you offer it.

I was still cogitating on Scary Krustydikus’ disgusting insinuations.

As for Wong, I want her to understand, repent and come back with the truth on her lips and a determination to assist in any way possible.

Tom
Tom
January 15, 2024 7:02 pm

Jacinta Allan.
“It’s important that as a parliament we reflect the community that we represent,”

Leftards lie about everything all the time.

The objective of an ideologue like Jacinta Allan — and Barack Obama and the rest of their fellow activists — is to change the country forever because they hate you and your culture.

Crossie
Crossie
January 15, 2024 7:02 pm

Crossie, I don’t think Gindavikians are feeling very secure at the moment. The damage is awful.

JMH, I don’t wish to brag but some years ago we drove through Grindavik on the way to the nearby Blue Lagoon. The surrounding area was criss-crossed with old lava flows with just some plant growth and no trees.

miltonf
miltonf
January 15, 2024 7:02 pm

Maybe that’s how the ‘rats plan to end air travel for regular citizens. No evil is beyond them.

Vicki
Vicki
January 15, 2024 7:04 pm

Why it is so rainy on Australia’s east coast even though the country is in ‘El Nino’ – and how everything we thought we knew about the weather system is wrong

We haven’t seen the grass this high on our place for the last 9 years. Husband slashed some paddocks ten days ago & the grass is over the knees already. Cattle can’t eat it fast enough!

If BOM is right & El Nino returns in Feb/March we could be in for some scary grass fires. In any case, we are going to have a heavy grass load around here for some time.

miltonf
miltonf
January 15, 2024 7:04 pm

Maybe that’s how the ‘rats plan to end air travel for regular citizens. No evil is beyond them.
sorry was referring to JC’s post re DIE in aviation

Digger
Digger
January 15, 2024 7:06 pm

As for Wong, I want her to understand, repent and come back with the truth on her lips and a determination to assist in any way possible.

I would not be surprised if Wong has not chosen the timing for this trip to make a detour before coming home and go to Davos to catch up with her mates…

Cassie of Sydney
January 15, 2024 7:08 pm

This is good, really good…..

Pro-Palestine heckler ‘pummelled’ by angry Texans at Greg Abbott event

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q94XFsR9QFY

This comforts me, a Jew hating, Pallie Nazi getting some just desserts.

JC
JC
January 15, 2024 7:11 pm

This is good, really good…..

LOL, Texans are a different breed… except Austin. 🙂

JMH
JMH
January 15, 2024 7:13 pm

JMH, I don’t wish to brag but some years ago we drove through Grindavik on the way to the nearby Blue Lagoon. The surrounding area was criss-crossed with old lava flows with just some plant growth and no trees.

Crossie. I have no doubt at all the fishing village pf Grindavik was sitting on a time bomb as is most of Iceland.

calli
calli
January 15, 2024 7:14 pm

We have had very little rain here on the peninsula. Dry as.

Reminds me of ten years ago, when we were building. And then up popped a massive east coast low and flattened the place.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 15, 2024 7:15 pm

Home again, tired but happy, been given the all clear for another three years. Ten years ago a cautious doc thought it might be a good idea to have an endoscopy due to getting a bad stomach infection in Africa, which he treated. All clear on the stomach, but colonoscopy he ordered at the same time (might as well have it while you’re under, he said) showed a large embedded pre-cancerous bowel lesion, which was removed and the area tatoo’d for further surveillance. Without that ‘might-as-well-have-it’ I would probably have karked it from bowel cancer by now. It’s an unlovely procedure, especially the prepping for it, but I’m putting it out here for everyone to take this cancer seriously and get any signs checked. You can do a fecal blood test to find early signs.

WolfmanOz
January 15, 2024 7:15 pm

Cassie of Sydney
Jan 15, 2024 6:35 PM
Meanwhile, the Jew hatred in the West festers, foments and grows, rapidly. The best analogy I can think of is the alien from the films, Alien. Once Jew hatred is awoken from its nap, once Jew hatred is succoured, once Jew hatred is officially or unofficially licensed, it becomes empowered and the violence that ensues, either with words or actions, knows no bounds.

And you can be our Ellen Ripley.

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 15, 2024 7:16 pm

In addition to the death of the contrast collar Dr John will forever be associated with:
– the death of the “outsider politician”in Australia; and
– the development and release of major policy from Opposition.

Even Waffleworth had to do time before fulfilling his Manifest Destiny and Potential Greatness. The archetype Lieboral professional politician may well be Kelly O’Dwyer.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
January 15, 2024 7:20 pm

Digger, I doubt Benny Wonk has any friends. Only ever aquaintances that can be used. Goes for most politicians these days.

Roger
Roger
January 15, 2024 7:21 pm

Pro-Palestine heckler ‘pummelled’ by angry Texans at Greg Abbott event

Pummelled? Not at all.

I thought they were rather restrained.

Seriously, as I don’t condone violence unless in self-defense.

Well handled!

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 15, 2024 7:21 pm

‘Not about a photo op’: Albanese defends Wong call to skip October 7 massacre sites
By Matthew Knott and Olivia Ireland
Updated January 15, 2024 — 6.06pmfirst published at 10.20am

Listen to this article
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Prime Minister Anthony Albanese has defended Penny Wong’s decision not to visit any of the sites in southern Israel attacked by Hamas terrorists on October 7 as the foreign minister faced a barrage of criticism from the political right and left as she departed on a diplomatic mission to the Middle East.

Winston Smith
January 15, 2024 7:22 pm

Vicki:
Perhaps a bit of quick restocking?
You’ll at least save the cost of slashing…
🙂

Roger
Roger
January 15, 2024 7:22 pm

‘Not about a photo op’: Albanese defends Wong call to skip October 7 massacre sites

Righto…there’ll be no pics of her talking to victims of alleged settler violence then.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
January 15, 2024 7:24 pm

As for Wong, I want her to understand, repent and come back with the truth on her lips and a determination to assist in any way possible.

Golly, you’re an optimist. I don’t think the Wongs of this world are capable of understanding, repenting, or having the truth on their lips.

JMH
JMH
January 15, 2024 7:24 pm

It’s been flannerying heavily on and off for about an hour here. That el Nino is a bugger, that’s for sure. I’m SO glad BoM warned me what to expect with regard to my watering regime over summer.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 15, 2024 7:24 pm

I have lost too many friends and work colleagues to bowel cancer. One ‘progressive’ and anti-medicine friend and colleague, only fifty-five at the time, as I was too, thought her neck and back pain was due to whiplash from a car accident two years prior, and her ‘chiropracter’ encouraged that belief. She was eventually brought in severe pain into a hospital Emergency, where very advanced metastatic bowel cancer was quickly diagnosed. She was dead a fortnight after that. A tremendous shock to so many people. Four of the group of ten I used to work with have now died of bowel cancer (that I know about). This woman at 55, one man at 45 (the first to go), one man at 72, and me with the start of it lurking when I was 71. That may not be any sort of cluster, btw, because it is so common.

Winston Smith
January 15, 2024 7:29 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

Jan 15, 2024 7:21 PM
‘Not about a photo op’: Albanese defends Wong call to skip October 7 massacre sites

She won’t go and see the sites where Jews were murdered, but she’ll talk to the “victims of Israeli aggression.”
No one has picked up on that yet?

Cassie of Sydney
January 15, 2024 7:32 pm

And you can be our Ellen Ripley.

Thank you, I’m flattered.

Rosie
Rosie
January 15, 2024 7:36 pm

There are two sides to settler violence.
Three terrorists came under a fence from the west bank to attack Jewish settler a couple of days ago, one injury before they were neutralised.
There was also an accident as the result of a rock throwing at a car.
In fact a number of Israelis have been killed over the years as the result of rock throwing.
Seems like an examination of the claims might suggest some at least is the result of Palestinians coming close to Jewish settlements under one pretext or another (eg harvesting olives) in order to throw rocks.
On other occasions Jewish settlers are clearly the aggressors.

Rosie
Rosie
January 15, 2024 7:37 pm
Roger
Roger
January 15, 2024 7:40 pm

There are two sides to settler violence.

Indubitably.

Will we hear that clearly from Minister Wong?

calli
calli
January 15, 2024 7:44 pm

Therapeutic Albo knows all about the dangers of “photo ops”.

alwaysright
alwaysright
January 15, 2024 7:45 pm

Y’all gotta love Texans.

132andBush
132andBush
January 15, 2024 7:45 pm

You can do a fecal blood test to find early signs.

Good to hear you’re clear, Lizzie.
Although better than nothing , the FOBT isn’t a reliable test. It missed my tumour at 41yrs and I was on my third dose of chemo on my 42nd birthday.
I’d advise everyone over 40 to have a colonoscopy every three years.

JC
JC
January 15, 2024 7:46 pm

Without that ‘might-as-well-have-it’ I would probably have karked it from bowel cancer by now. I

Walking the hospital hallway today on my way home, I met up with wifeys close friend. She was visiting her dad, who was in for bowel cancer surgery. He had his 100th birthday last September and looked quite healthy then. I didn’t think they do surgery on centennials. Liz, did you know?

calli
calli
January 15, 2024 7:46 pm

And you can be our Ellen Ripley.

In Gab’s absence, can I be Lara Croft?

*slinks awkwardly away*

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 15, 2024 7:52 pm

I have no doubt at all the fishing village pf Grindavik was sitting on a time bomb as is most of Iceland.

They’re lucky. Last night a small fissure opened up only 100 m north of the town but the eruption is dying quickly. A few houses have been engulfed but it could easily’ve been lots worse.

The main problem is all the cracks which have opened up along the same line as the volcanic fissure. Lots of structural damage in the town as a result. No lava up the cracks but having a two metre wide crevasse appear under you would ruin your whole day. One poor guy fell into one last week and hasn’t been found.

Digger
Digger
January 15, 2024 7:55 pm

Killing insurgents doesnt reduce their numbers, it multiplies them.

Thats why 3900 Tomahawks is a good thing…

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
January 15, 2024 7:56 pm

Victoria is unusually green for a January.

A little over a week ago most of central Queensland was unusually brown for a wet season.

Tongan Volcano has thrown a curve ball into the climatic mix. These so called scientists need to actually get back to forecasting rather than staring at a computer screen.

Sitting in Central Vic at the moment watching tropical like convective showers bloom and wane round the place. Next 5 years the earths climate is in uncharted territory till the effects of the volcano wane.

Cassie of Sydney
January 15, 2024 7:56 pm

Rosie
Jan 15, 2024 7:36 PM

A good summary.

Less than a year ago, on 7 April 2023, Rabbi Leo Dee’s wife, Lucy, and two of their daughters, Rina and Maia, were ambushed in their car whilst leaving their home in the settlement of Efrat and murdered. They were shot in the face, at point blank range, by Palestinian terrorists.

I do hope Foreign Minister Penis Wank also talks to settlers about the violence they’ve endured, or perhaps she thinks Lucy, Rina and Maia deserved to die.

Oh and exactly six months to the day after terrorists murdered Rabbi Dee’s wife and daughters, the Hamas attack of October 7 occurred.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 15, 2024 7:57 pm

Walter Kirn
@walterkirn

One difference for the Ds in this presidential election compared to the last two is that there is no one to play the Bernie role of stirring up the youth vote and then handing it off to the establishment candidate

JMH
JMH
January 15, 2024 7:57 pm

Bruce of Newcastle
Jan 15, 2024 7:52 PM

While this system is active, I wouldn’t be giving the township clearance. I don’t think we’ve seen the last of eruptions. It will be interesting to see what e/q activity there is and how frequent.

bons
bons
January 15, 2024 7:58 pm

“Victoria is unusually green”

Sorry, couldn’t resist.

Cassie of Sydney
January 15, 2024 8:00 pm

Foreign Minister Penis Wank

That should be ‘Foreign Minister ‘Penis, I strap it on Wank’.

John H.
John H.
January 15, 2024 8:01 pm

Digger
Jan 15, 2024 7:55 PM
Killing insurgents doesnt reduce their numbers, it multiplies them.

Thats why 3900 Tomahawks is a good thing…

Insurgents without drones and missiles are reduced to street fighting. How long will Iran keep supplying weapons that are being destroyed on the ground?

JC
JC
January 15, 2024 8:03 pm

I realize people here have a hard on for pharma, but spare a thought for the lawsuits that can come their way, in California.

WSJ

California Invents a Crazy New Tort
Golden State judges rule that Gilead can be sued for taking too long to develop an HIV drug.

Businesses are often sued for selling allegedly faulty products that aren’t actually defective. Last week a California appeals court ruled that businesses can also be sued for failing to develop a product. Behold California’s new tort standard: You should have built that.

Some 24,000 patients have sued Gilead Sciences
in California state court for failing to introduce an allegedly safer version of an HIV drug. The Food and Drug Administration in 2001 approved a life-saving HIV medication by Gilead. The plaintiffs don’t argue that the drug is defective or lacked adequate warnings.

They claim that Gilead should have launched sooner an alternative HIV treatment that carries fewer bone and kidney side effects. They say Gilead delayed developing the new drug to maximize profits from its other HIV medication. Gilead disputes these claims and says it wasn’t clear from its early studies that the new drug would be safer or more effective.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 15, 2024 8:04 pm

Workforce crisis threatens to put two more Anzac frigates out of service

EXCLUSIVE
By ben packham
Foreign Affairs and Defence Correspondent
7:25PM January 15, 2024
13 Comments

Defence is looking at mothballing up to two more of the navy’s frontline Anzac-class frigates as crippling crew shortages undermine the nation’s military capabilities.

Senior leadership has ordered navy fleet command to provide advice on the impact of pulling a further one or two Anzac frigates out of the water indefinitely.

The move follows Defence’s decision in November, revealed by The Australian, to put first-of-class frigate HMAS Anzac on hard stands at Western Australia’s Henderson shipyard.

It’s understood shortages of navy-qualified marine and electrical engineers are acute, with the vessels unable to go to sea without sufficient personnel in the key roles.

The nation’s most potent warships – the Hobart-class air warfare destroyers – are also suffering crewing issues due to a shortage of combat system operators.

The dire workforce shortages are likely to have added to the government’s reluctance to send a vessel to join a dangerous US-led operation in the Red Sea to protect international shipping from Iranian-backed Houthis.

bons
bons
January 15, 2024 8:07 pm

Foreign Minister Penis Wank

True, and we all despise her and share your agony, but we are better than this.

We can eviscerate these animals without sinking to their ‘local branch’ level rhetoric.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 15, 2024 8:08 pm

Tongan Volcano has thrown a curve ball into the climatic mix.

BoM doesn’t like volcanoes unless they can throw virgins into them to placate Gaia.

(Heard Island is erupting, chaps, but good luck finding a suitable virgin in Canberra.)

Vicki
Vicki
January 15, 2024 8:11 pm

Winston Smith
Jan 15, 2024 7:22 PM
Vicki:
Perhaps a bit of quick restocking?
You’ll at least save the cost of slashing…
?

Normally, yes, Winston. However, we are now at a stage in our lives that the social breed stock that we have left (& also some commercial stock that, for one reason or another have not been sent to sale)are permanent residents that generally also help keep the pasture manageable. However, they are just luxuriating in the feed that we have at the moment. Lucky them.

But we like to keep the pasture in good condition – it has taken years to establish a diversity of grasses & the place looks a picture. Husband actually likes tractor work – air con, radio & all of that. Much to the exasperation of the station hands on the adjacent property – he’ll hate me saying it but he slashes (actually uses a mulcher) rows of MCG-like stripes into the paddocks!

I do the gardens and surrounding grounds with the”ride-on” although I make husband despair by constantly running over things & losing fan belt. In fact the damn grass is so thick it is almost stalling in some places.

So, no “El Nino” around here.

Roger
Roger
January 15, 2024 8:11 pm

Tongan Volcano has thrown a curve ball into the climatic mix. These so called scientists need to actually get back to forecasting rather than staring at a computer screen.

I think you’ve detected the missing element from BOM’s models.

Heaven forbid that there should be communication between scientific silos.

The downside of specialisation.

Vicki
Vicki
January 15, 2024 8:13 pm

The should have read “special breed” stock – although they are, indeed, very very “social” – they are Galloways, are quite different to our Angus.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 15, 2024 8:14 pm

Workforce crisis threatens to put two more Anzac frigates out of service

The Poms have had to do likewise.

Royal Navy Forced To Retire Frigates Due To Personnel Shortages: Report (6 Jan)

They can’t seem to find enough black muslim transvestites to man, er, people them. It’s a mystery.

Winston Smith
January 15, 2024 8:16 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

Jan 15, 2024 8:04 PM
Defence is looking at mothballing up to two more of the navy’s frontline Anzac-class frigates as crippling crew shortages undermine the nation’s military capabilities.
Senior leadership has ordered navy fleet command to provide advice on the impact of pulling a further one or two Anzac frigates out of the water indefinitely.

I think it’s about time a decent look was made at the entire defence force establishment, including Defence Support.
As a starting point, sacking everyone at Colonel level and above, and reducing the top echelons to anyone who hasn’t combat experience would be a fine start.
OK, that’s probably not the answer, but for Fox Sake, sort it out now while we have the luxury of a peacetime chance to do so.

Boambee John
Boambee John
January 15, 2024 8:16 pm

Crossie
Jan 15, 2024 6:50 PM
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Jan 15, 2024 6:30 PM
The way he treated his first wife never sat well with the Australian public at the time.

Didn’t she get her own back, by telling her story to the “Women’s Weekly” and “60 Minutes” in 1991, just after he became leader of the Opposition?

I remember watching that interview and thinking that’s that for the Libs. He wasn’t much different to Malcolm Turnbull as it turns out.

Yet strangely, neither the way Shorten dumped his first wife (having already impregnated her replacement), nor the “Senior Labor Figure” scandal had any effect on the Liars. At least, that is, in the eyes of the MSM, who were all over the Hewson story like a particularly nasty rash.

WolfmanOz
January 15, 2024 8:16 pm

Cassie as Ellen Ripley . . .

https://youtu.be/ov6lWzLAcLQ

Cassie of Sydney
January 15, 2024 8:17 pm

We can eviscerate these animals without sinking to their ‘local branch’ level rhetoric.”

I’m not going to compare her to animals. Animals are decent. I think my ‘rhetoric’ is quite appropriate and far more accurate. This is a women who was involved in the attacks and aggression on Nicolle Flint, who was up to her neck in the Higgins imbroglio, who was up to her neck in the Porter assassination, who was up to her neck in the Tudge affair.

Nah, Penis Wank is appropriate. She’s a particularly putrid and nasty individual.

Rosie
Rosie
January 15, 2024 8:18 pm
Roger
Roger
January 15, 2024 8:19 pm

‘Albanese considers fast-tracking cost-of-living relief’

– AFR today

The polling must be bad.

John H.
John H.
January 15, 2024 8:19 pm

Bruce of Newcastle
Jan 15, 2024 8:14 PM
Workforce crisis threatens to put two more Anzac frigates out of service

The Poms have had to do likewise.

Global problem …

Bruce of Newcastle
Jan 15, 2024 8:14 PM
Workforce crisis threatens to put two more Anzac frigates out of service
How Demography Destroys (or Builds) Armies – Recruitment, Retention and Manpower

Top Ender
Top Ender
January 15, 2024 8:22 pm

Defence is looking at mothballing up to two more of the navy’s frontline Anzac-class frigates as crippling crew shortages undermine the nation’s military capabilities.

Senior leadership has ordered navy fleet command to provide advice on the impact of pulling a further one or two Anzac frigates out of the water indefinitely.

Oz

Roger
Roger
January 15, 2024 8:23 pm

Senior leadership has ordered navy fleet command to provide advice on the impact of pulling a further one or two Anzac frigates out of the water indefinitely.

Senior leadership should rather order a review of the impact of ads on recruitment.

And do they go into the high schools anymore?

Cassie of Sydney
January 15, 2024 8:24 pm

And Wonk is a bully. Who can forget her treatment of Kimberley Kitching.

I remember watching Wong and Gallagher bullying Senator Linda Reynolds.

Wonk is a disgrace.

Winston Smith
January 15, 2024 8:25 pm

Vicki:
Are the Galloways the ones that you have?
The coats look very warm.
How often do you have to paint in the middle stripe? Or are they like a tube top the girls wear? They must be a bugger to wash, but they do look clean. You’d need a very big commercial washer for them.
They are cute.

calli
calli
January 15, 2024 8:27 pm

‘Albanese considers fast-tracking cost-of-living relief’

Handouts. Nothing changes. He’ll try to buy his way back with public money.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 15, 2024 8:28 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eGecSaQO7Q

Poor old Ping Pong – she’s not getting much sympathy!

H B Bear
H B Bear
January 15, 2024 8:28 pm

– AFR today
The polling must be bad.

Don’t panic Mr Mainwaring.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nR0lOtdvqyg

cohenite
January 15, 2024 8:30 pm

If BOM is right & El Nino returns in Feb/March

The BOM is never right. For a number of reasons. Their models are based on CO2 being the primary climate factor; that is wrong. They ignore ENSO dominating cycles in the climate such as PDO. They underestimate the solar input. They did not factor in the 2022 Hunga Tonga–Hunga Ha?apai eruption and the huge amount of water vapor it put into the atmosphere. They’re political hacks.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
January 15, 2024 8:31 pm

John – Yes, much as I like the idea of getting some Virginias, there’s a real issue that we won’t have anyone to man them with.

Byzantium in its last death throes was in a similar situation.

JC
JC
January 15, 2024 8:31 pm

Senior leadership should rather order a review of the impact of ads on recruitment.

And do they go into the high schools anymore?

And pay? Perhaps pay is part of the issue.

Why not make it entirely tax free during peacetime too. During wartime it’s tax free. Starting salary looks like around 50K a year.

cohenite
January 15, 2024 8:32 pm

I think my ‘rhetoric’ is quite appropriate and far more accurate. This is a women who was involved in the attacks and aggression on Nicolle Flint, who was up to her neck in the Higgins imbroglio, who was up to her neck in the Porter assassination, who was up to her neck in the Tudge affair.

And the wong chap has a big arse. You can never trust a guy with a big arse.

dopey
dopey
January 15, 2024 8:33 pm

Mary Kostakidis knows the drill. Make an assertion, pretend it’s a question, never come back to answer the question. Richard Ackland was a master of the technique. ” Did Israel commit war crimes in Gaza blah blah blah ” ? Never answered his own question. Multi-award winning journalist probably.

JC
JC
January 15, 2024 8:33 pm

I reckon if you’re potentially putting your life on the line, the least we could do is not force anyone in the ADF to pay tax. Make it tax free for service, but not for desk jobs perhaps.

Winston Smith
January 15, 2024 8:35 pm

calli

Jan 15, 2024 8:27 PM
‘Albanese considers fast-tracking cost-of-living relief’

Handouts. Nothing changes. He’ll try to buy his way back with public money.

The thing is that while he hands out money or at least promises of money, the State Premiers are raising all their costs at the same time.
Both sides are aware of the scam and are having a great old guffaw at the mug punters who believe they are getting something for nothing.

No more handouts to the great unwashed – we can’t afford them.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 15, 2024 8:37 pm

Make it tax free for service, but not for desk jobs perhaps.

You can guarantee the shiny bums would work out a loop hole.
In theory, a good idea though.

Boambee John
Boambee John
January 15, 2024 8:37 pm

John H.
Jan 15, 2024 8:01 PM

Digger
Jan 15, 2024 7:55 PM
Killing insurgents doesnt reduce their numbers, it multiplies them.

Thats why 3900 Tomahawks is a good thing…

Insurgents without drones and missiles are reduced to street fighting. How long will Iran keep supplying weapons that are being destroyed on the ground?

This matter needs the application of three old systems (none on which involve a large force permanently on the ground).

First, blockade. Identify the ships carrying missiles and drones from Iran to Yemen. Preferably stop them at sea, if not, let them land the cargo, then use the newest of the three systems, air control.

Warn local civilians to move away, then bomb the warehouses, or attack the trucks moving the missiles to forward areas.

Finally, the punitive expedition. Once a major storage area, concentration of launch sites or headquarters is identified. if missiles and bombs cannot do the job land special forces to destroy as much as possible, while trying to minimise damage to clearly civilian infrastructure. In and out quickly, preferably within 12 hours.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
January 15, 2024 8:39 pm

Hairy had to drive me to the hospital this morning in a complete cloudburst for a 7am start. What a sweetie, as he hates getting up early.

The procedure is awful but the staff are usually so nice. Admitting nurse was an Aussie woman in middle age, a no-nonsense sort and we shared wry jokes about the indignities and no need to tape over my rings as I’d left them at home. The anaesthetic nurse was a charming, giggly and friendly little Thai gay guy, very efficient, clucking around me attaching red allegy bands like a bustling bantam hen. The orderlies, blokes who wheel you around once the admitting nurse has helped onto your trolly into your lovely new hospital clothing – blue disposable booties, voluminous disposable unisex knickers (for modesty, they’d have to cut ’em off), back-to-front tie-up gown and covered with a blanket – were two very caring middle-eastern fellows, and my ‘team’ in the operating theatre were very gung-ho. Thai bantam was chirping at me to open my mouth so he could spray my throat while the anaesthetist on the other side, a cheery Aussie guy, used that distraction to stick a canula effortlessly into the back of my hand, presto … out.

You eyes awake, your procedure finish, says a Chinese nurse brusquely to me. I struggle to consciousness as she ramps up the bed to a sitting position. I’m not ready for it, so I stay still. You get off now, she orders me. I desperately need to blow my nose, so I sneeze, and then sneeze suddenly, about five times more. Can I have a tissue please? I ask her, but she ignores me and wanders off. I ask her two more times as she comes back to wait for me to get off the bed. We don’t have tissues, she says. Another nurse comes by going somewhere else with some tea and hands me some serviettes, which do. Once I finish sneezing (about five mins after waking) my Chinese nurse, thick-set and with a very impassive face, insists I get down, which I do basically unaided, a bit wobbly in my eighty-second year, and she gestures for me to follow beside her, pointing to a chair saying, you chair, you sit here. She gives me an egg sandwich, saying egg, and a cup of white tea, saying tea, and starts tidying up and counting the boxes of paper cups in the kitchen cupboards.

The nurse who gave me the serviettes then comes over to me with some nose tissues. How are you? she asks. I’m ok, I say, I was just having an allergic reaction to something, probably in that mouth spray, I say, so sorry for sneezing, and thanks for the serviettes because I really did need some help there. Look, she says to me, as she adjusts the chair for me and covers me with a blanket, you are not the first one we’ve seen badly treated by that nurse, and my colleague and I have already reported her. Would you put in a complaint about your treatment, which we don’t think was at all professional? I will think about it, I said. Tomorrow, not today though.

Fifteen minutes later a very attractive and friendly woman in a hijab so smoothly fitting it looks as though it would do for a bio-hazard lab comes to see me. She introduces herself as the CEO of this private hospital, gives me her card, apologises for my treatment, and asks me to write to her with a complaint about this nurse.

I hate to get anyone in trouble, but I am still considering it. Hairy says write the complaint. He’s calling me now for dinner, which he’s cooked, bless him.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 15, 2024 8:40 pm

Watched episode one of the new True Detective.
Can’t wait for the Critical Drinker to unload on “The Message”.
Some real nastiness in the writing.

miltonf
miltonf
January 15, 2024 8:42 pm

As Calli said, Wong is like that horrible woman out of the CS Lewis novel, the Hideous Strength
Miss Hardcastle (a.k.a. “The Fairy”) – The sadistic, cigar-chewing head of the N.I.C.E. Institutional Police and its female auxiliary, the “Waips”. Torture is her favorite interrogation method, and she takes special, sexual pleasure in abusing female prisoners.

Should be Ms Hardcastle now.

Boambee John
Boambee John
January 15, 2024 8:42 pm

Bruce of Newcastle
Jan 15, 2024 8:14 PM
Workforce crisis threatens to put two more Anzac frigates out of service

The Poms have had to do likewise.

Royal Navy Forced To Retire Frigates Due To Personnel Shortages: Report (6 Jan)

The RN has also had to take their two LPDs out of service, for the same reason.

Funny how destroying your national culture and history can cause problems with willingness to defend that nation.

Zatara
Zatara
January 15, 2024 8:45 pm

How long will Iran keep supplying weapons that are being destroyed on the ground?

One suspects that pipeline is well cut for the forseable future.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
January 15, 2024 8:46 pm

Senior leadership should rather order a review of the impact of ads on recruitment.

I’ve written earlier about the poster to persuade people to join the navy which featured some ghastly creature of indeterminate sex nobody would want to go down in a submarine with. Whoever creates these adverts has a preference for perverts.

Boambee John
Boambee John
January 15, 2024 8:50 pm

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Winston Smith
Jan 15, 2024 8:16 PM
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

Jan 15, 2024 8:04 PM
Defence is looking at mothballing up to two more of the navy’s frontline Anzac-class frigates as crippling crew shortages undermine the nation’s military capabilities.
Senior leadership has ordered navy fleet command to provide advice on the impact of pulling a further one or two Anzac frigates out of the water indefinitely.

I think it’s about time a decent look was made at the entire defence force establishment, including Defence Support.
As a starting point, sacking everyone at Colonel level and above, and reducing the top echelons to anyone who hasn’t combat experience would be a fine start.

There were two such exercises in the 1990s.

An explicit intent of the first was to reduce the numbers, particularly officers, serving in static headquarters and support functions, while increasing the numbers, largely other ranks and junior to mid-level officers, in deployable combat and combat support functions.

For about a decade after, I tracked the numbers of officers/officer cadets versus other ranks and trainees recorded in the Defence Annual Report.

At the time I stopped doing that self-imposed task, the overall numbers in the ADF had decreased by around 5000 (the number targeted in the review), however, the numbers of officers and officer cadets had remained effectively the same, while the numbers of other ranks and trainees had borne essentially the full effect of the reductions.

And the numbers of senior/very senior officers had increased.

miltonf
miltonf
January 15, 2024 8:50 pm

Rockdoc- interesting comments re Vicco weather. Western edge of Melbourne more like late summer in Sydney right now. Amazing cloud formations looking west- getting ready to storm. Quite nice really. Extraordinary too. Had to give the garden a haircut and shave after doing so just 2 weeks ago.

Baba
Baba
January 15, 2024 8:51 pm

JC
Jan 15, 2024 8:33 PM
I reckon if you’re potentially putting your life on the line, the least we could do is not force anyone in the ADF to pay tax. Make it tax free for service, but not for desk jobs perhaps.

DDG HMAS Officeworks

Boambee John
Boambee John
January 15, 2024 8:53 pm

Cassie of Sydney
Jan 15, 2024 8:17 PM
We can eviscerate these animals without sinking to their ‘local branch’ level rhetoric.”

I’m not going to compare her to animals. Animals are decent. I think my ‘rhetoric’ is quite appropriate and far more accurate. This is a women who was involved in the attacks and aggression on Nicolle Flint, who was up to her neck in the Higgins imbroglio, who was up to her neck in the Porter assassination, who was up to her neck in the Tudge affair.

Nah, Penis Wank is appropriate. She’s a particularly putrid and nasty individual.

You forgot to mention Labor Senator Kimberley Kitching, hounded to an early grave by the Liars’ “Mean Girls”.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 15, 2024 8:54 pm

Funny how destroying your national culture and history can cause problems with willingness to defend that nation.

Well said “It’s not your country, you’ve no right to be here.”

Boambee John
Boambee John
January 15, 2024 8:54 pm

Cassie

Sorry, just caught up with your comment at 2024.

Pogria
Pogria
January 15, 2024 8:55 pm
Boambee John
Boambee John
January 15, 2024 8:59 pm

Senior leadership has ordered navy fleet command to provide advice on the impact of pulling a further one or two Anzac frigates out of the water indefinitely.

There is a possibly apocryphal story from Beazley’s time as Minister.

The services were asked for suggestions to cover a looming budget shortfall (this was before the review I mentioned above). Allegedly, the Navy Chief proposed to run trials on a newly delivered frigate, then mothball her.

Allegedly, the Minute with this proposal came back with a handwritten note, musing that if that was all that could be found within a billion-dollar (then) Navy Budget, perhaps a new Chief could do better.

The frigate went into service.

Boambee John
Boambee John
January 15, 2024 9:01 pm

Bruce of Newcastle
Jan 15, 2024 8:31 PM
John – Yes, much as I like the idea of getting some Virginias, there’s a real issue that we won’t have anyone to man them with.

Three words: Uncrewed drone submarines.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 15, 2024 9:03 pm

Senior leadership should rather order a review of the impact of ads on recruitment.

“My Army gives me all the time I want with my children.”

Rosie
Rosie
January 15, 2024 9:04 pm

Isn’t active service ie deployment tax free already?

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 15, 2024 9:05 pm

I know this isn’t new news, but I was listening to a podcast that was digging deep into the Academy Awards DEI rules.

I didn’t believe some of the rules but here they are.

https://www.oscars.org/news/academy-establishes-representation-and-inclusion-standards-oscarsr-eligibility

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 15, 2024 9:09 pm

Studios are employing DEI consultants to ensure their prestige movies can be made to qualify for the Oscars.
They have to submit their compliance admin before they can be included in the nomination process.

Imagine having to have to replace certain people involved with the film because they didn’t tick the right box.

JC
JC
January 15, 2024 9:10 pm

This is the sort of thing manufacturing in Australia has to contend with around the world. I’m not in favor of any of this, but it’s a factor on the spread sheet when figuring out where to build a plant.

Economist.

Manufacturers in Oman, making products from aluminium to ammonia, can obtain a factory rent-free at one of the country’s new industrial parks, buy materials with generous grants and pay their workers’ wages by borrowing cheaply from shareholders, which usually include the government. They can even draw on export subsidies to sell abroad at a lower cost.

At the very least, allow the Australian market to produce cheap and abundant energy and avoid any bloody-minded union control..

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 15, 2024 9:11 pm

JC at 6:54.

Stocks for private jet manufactures are going to fly off the shelf over the medium term if this keeps going. Anyone worth over a US$50 million is going to buy a partial lease.

A lease in what though?
Small private jets are OK but not so much for international long haul.
Maybe “legacy” 737s with a few miles on the clock but no FOD, loose bits or dodgy anti-stall software.

Zatara
Zatara
January 15, 2024 9:15 pm

A lease in what though?

These. 2021’s 30 Biggest Charter/Fractional Private Jet Companies Ranked (Full Year)

NOT known for DEI, they hire for results.

Vicki
Vicki
January 15, 2024 9:17 pm

Lizzie, quite shocked to hear of the insensitive & unacceptable treatment you had at the hands of the Chinese orderly. Please do complain. I don’t see why we have to put up with standards that apply elsewhere. I am OVER it!

Boambee John
Boambee John
January 15, 2024 9:19 pm

Rosie
Jan 15, 2024 9:04 PM
Isn’t active service ie deployment tax free already?

When deployed on operations, salary, normal allowances and the deployment allowance for that specific operation are all tax free.

John H.
John H.
January 15, 2024 9:20 pm

Senior leadership should rather order a review of the impact of ads on recruitment.

I don’t think ads are the problem. Senior leadership doesn’t have the answers. Does anyone? How much of this is about demographics? If they want answers it is better to ask the prospective recruits what they want from the armed forces. It seems there has been a huge generational shift so people no longer will join out of patriotism or being able to go bang bang. Many years ago Mel Gibson produced a series on US Navy personnel. For many of them it was about using the military for fringe benefits, education, and hopefully kicking up the socioeconomic ladder.

Why Do People Join The Defence Force? | The Hollowmen

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
January 15, 2024 9:23 pm

Him and is wife / staff are jets!

This channel is gold.

Helicopter fuel delivery, surprise guest, and a new member joins the team!

JC
JC
January 15, 2024 9:24 pm

Sanchez

Small private jets are OK but not so much for international long haul.
Maybe “legacy” 737s with a few miles on the clock but no FOD, loose bits or dodgy anti-stall software.

There’s

Dassault Falcon .. frog and would stay away
Textron, which I think makes Beechcraft

Some Brazilan company, I wouldn’t touch.

Bombardier is Canadian and probably okay.

Textron is on it’s highs.

You wouldn’t want to travel long haul on a private jet as it’s too bumpy. However for travel across the US and Europe they’re fine. You can buy lease shares in these jets or buy seats.

I think private jet travel is going to increase hugely. You can buy seats on a private jet for 4K between Cal and NY. It’s expensive but not over the top top expensive.

The one, I think would be Textron and then Bombardier.

7 hours is about all that Americans and Euros want to be in a plane. Any longer and it’s considered barbaric, and rightfully so. 🙂

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 15, 2024 9:26 pm

Speaking of DEI, Anthony Cumia (from O&A) recently had a quadruple bypass.
It was at a private clinic in NY that the name escapes me at the moment.
It’s run by a Jewish guy who recruits from NYU.
He doesn’t advertise.
He uses intermediaries to identify talent who he then offers to pay their college debts in exchange for a long term contract.
He was in the facility for about 3 weeks.
Said he didn’t see a black guy for the entire time.

JC
JC
January 15, 2024 9:27 pm

Boambee John
Jan 15, 2024 9:19 PM

Rosie
Jan 15, 2024 9:04 PM
Isn’t active service ie deployment tax free already?

When deployed on operations, salary, normal allowances and the deployment allowance for that specific operation are all tax free.

Make it tax free day one of recruitment.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
January 15, 2024 9:28 pm

Oops.

Channel name is Jack at The Back.

JC
JC
January 15, 2024 9:29 pm

feelthebern
Jan 15, 2024 9:26 PM

It’s hard to kill that place even with Hiden trying his best.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 15, 2024 9:29 pm

I’ll see if I can dig up the name.
He got an invoice for $US850k, but the insurer picked the tab.
He pays about $US3k a month for health insurance.

Cassie of Sydney
January 15, 2024 9:30 pm

Hey, Cassie. ?

Thanks Pogs, still one of my favourite movie lines of all time!

Further to “bitch”, I recall how, nearly two years ago, Senator Bitch Wong was confronted by a real journalist about her nastiness, in this case allegations of her nastiness and bullying towards the recently deceased Senator Kimberly Kitching.

It was a discussion between Nine Politics Editor Chris Uhlmann and Bitch Wong. Uhlmann was always a good journalist and with Wong he didn’t pull any punches. He confronted her and her venal hypocrisy. She didn’t like it, not one bit, and I recall her slumped over in her chair, she didn’t want to answer his questions but it was clear she was shocked at the news of Kitching’s death, and the subsequent claims about how she and Gallagher had bullied Kitching.

Back in 2019, shortly after the May election, I attended a function where Nicolle Flint, then the member for Boothby, vividly described what she endured prior to the May 2019 election. It was not pretty. She was subjected to a highly orchestrated, coordinated and very targeted campaign of vilification, intimidation, and verbal and physical threats and harassment, from a unity ticket of Labor, the Greens, GetUp and the Unions. It was all planned. Flint was stalked, and the police were called. I remember asking Nicolle Flint at that function if she knew whether Wonk was personally involved in this campaign of intimidation and harassment. Flint smiled slightly, pursed her lips and said that “given Wong’s standing in South Australian Labor politics (she’s the Queen Bee there), she’d be very extremely surprised if Wong didn’t know anything about what was going on.

That’s who we’re dealing with. A nasty, toxic, vicious bully.

Once upon a time there was something to be said about engaging in polite discourse and debate. But here’s the rub, the ship of polite discourse left shore years ago and has now vanished. The left have seized the narrative, and they don’t engage in “politeness” or “niceness” or “decency”. As Donald Trump said back in 2015, we gotta throw it back, and throw it back I will!

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 15, 2024 9:32 pm

Roger

Jan 15, 2024 8:19 PM

‘Albanese considers fast-tracking cost-of-living relief’

– AFR today

The polling must be bad.

Yep.
And it’s bad because of last week’s deflection.

“Yesh, there will be shomefink in the May budget on the cosht of living”.

May!
He is clueless, and just hopes it will all go away.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
January 15, 2024 9:46 pm

I was only thinking how the ” elites” won’t be affected by the die rules for airlines.

Private all the way.

And I can sum up recruitment problems by quoting mates son who just quit.
” I didn’t join to salute men in dresses”

Millions more people in austfailure, yet not enough to man the defence forces.

Boambee John
Boambee John
January 15, 2024 9:46 pm

J

C
Jan 15, 2024 9:27 PM
Boambee John
Jan 15, 2024 9:19 PM

Rosie
Jan 15, 2024 9:04 PM
Isn’t active service ie deployment tax free already?

When deployed on operations, salary, normal allowances and the deployment allowance for that specific operation are all tax free.

Make it tax free day one of recruitment.

Then (apart from deployment allowance), what is the extra reward for being shot at?

Note also, that a high proportion of the senior members will rarely hear a shot fired in anger. Remember the commanders of the Afghanistan Task Group “commanded” from air-conditioned offices in the Gulf, and received decorations for their “service in the field”. The tax free bit should be reserved for those actually in an area or operations, but only while they are there.

Vicki
Vicki
January 15, 2024 9:47 pm

Winston @ 8.25pm:

Yes, Winston, we have Belted Galloways. They are delightful creatures – good “doers” ( ie they will eat most legumes), excellent temperament, good mothers, calve easily). Despite producing marbled meat, they are not highly regarded by butchers as they are smaller cattle & render less meat for the same amount of work.

Because of their Scottish ancestry, they have a heavy winter coat ( although that seems to diminish with age) that sheds slowly into Summer. Not good in an early Summer when the younger larger steers can get a bit distressed in the heat. On really hot days we move them down to the creek where they spend the day under the Casuarinas. Very amusing to watch the steers paddle in the creek while the old ladies chew their cuds under the trees.

We have kept our original cows ( though some have been put down when very old ) and have decided also to retain their last two drops of calves plus the last of the commercial Angus. All very lucky. But they give us great pleasure to watch them live out their lives. Each have individual personalities & are far more intelligent than people think.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
January 15, 2024 9:52 pm

Some disparaging commentary earlier, apropos of nurses.

God, you people.

They stay home so you can go to work, you know. I saw it on a TikTok clip.

JC
JC
January 15, 2024 9:58 pm

Then (apart from deployment allowance), what is the extra reward for being shot at?

Tax free when your life is not on the line.

Zatara
Zatara
January 15, 2024 10:00 pm

JC

The one, I think would be Textron and then Bombardier.

Also need to look at the FBOs. They are the part of the airport that handles private jets and such. Signature Aviation is one of the biggest of them.

None of the fractional ownership companies are publicly traded (yet) but Netjets is one of the biggest and is owned by Berkshire Hathaway.

Digger
Digger
January 15, 2024 10:03 pm

In any case, we are going to have a heavy grass load around here for some time.

I am praying for it on my farm…

Diogenes
Diogenes
January 15, 2024 10:03 pm

Senior leadership should rather order a review of the impact of ads on recruitment.

And do they go into the high schools anymore?

Yes they do. Ive attended a few sessions in several of the schools I have taught at. Presentations are slick but boring and emphasise everything except the fact you may actually have to put your arse on the line. This made me want to join the ARes… https://youtu.be/mgfFbTV6u0c?feature=shared which most of them

Rosie
Rosie
January 15, 2024 10:04 pm

Then tax free and bump the deployment allowance.
JC’s idea being to increase recruitment by offering more incentives.
Despite the more time with kids, military life is not family friendly. Very hard on families having to start fresh in new locations every few years.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
January 15, 2024 10:06 pm

Quenthland news (the Courier-Mail):

A once world-renowned motorcycle racing sensation is in palliative care and receiving end-of-life treatment in a Gold Coast hospital.

Former professional road racer Anthony “The Go Show” Gobert has been hospitalised with an undisclosed illness, his family releasing a statement about his condition.

That doesn’t sound flash.

The 48-year-old competed between 1994 and 2006 including Grand Prix motorcycle seasons (1997,99 and 2006) and seven seasons of the Superbike World Championships, racing alongside fellow Aussie greats Mick Doohan and Casey Stoner.

Pretty decent record. 48’s a bit young as well.

Gobert has an extensive history of drug and alcohol abuse, including losing his ride with the Suzuki factory 500cc Grand Prix team in 1997 after failing a drug test.

Ah.

In 2006 he admitted to being a heroin addict while standing trial for driving with an expired licence, and 2008 Gobert was convicted of robbing a 70-year-old pensioner and a 31-year-old woman for which he landed behind bars.

No loss, then. Taxpayer cash saved.

Next.

Zatara
Zatara
January 15, 2024 10:20 pm

Good recruits to the military want to be challenged. They want to learn new things. They want to have adventures. They want to do what other people only read about. They want to feel respected and well led.

They are willing to participate in a contract with the nation to protect it while it watches their backs and makes sure they aren’t abused or wasted.

What they don’t want is to be forced to participate in massive social experiments. To be commanded by woke or incompetent wankers. To be expendable to political agendas. To be tried in civilian courts for alleged military transgressions or “war crimes”.

Spend all the money you want on pay and benefits to try and attract them, but do the simple things like the above and you won’t need to go overboard there.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 15, 2024 10:20 pm

Gobert has an extensive history of drug and alcohol abuse, including losing his ride with the Suzuki factory 500cc Grand Prix team in 1997 after failing a drug test.

So, they even had bureaucracy and safetyism back then?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
January 15, 2024 10:30 pm

Zatara:

Good recruits to the military want to be challenged. They want to learn new things. They want to have adventures. They want to do what other people only read about. They want to feel respected and well led.

They are willing to participate in a contract with the nation to protect it while it watches their backs and makes sure they aren’t abused or wasted.

What they don’t want is to be forced to participate in massive social experiments. To be commanded by woke or incompetent wankers. To be expendable to political agendas.

Magnificent comment.

Superb.

Winston Smith
January 15, 2024 10:33 pm

Boambee John:
With underwater unmanned sub drones, how do they communicate?
Not being a smartarse, the Loyal Wingman idea for the RAAF is potentially a great idea, but the issue with underwater drones is the communication bit.
Physical cable like a torpedo in which case the link ties the drone to the master vehicle. Floating cable with radio? Sub sea comms but the bit rate is woeful – really really woeful. Perhaps an option within a 1- 99 menu, but then when the link is lost, the underwater drone is beyond human control unless part of the option is to return to a specific point and the submarine is waiting in ambush to make sure an enemy submarine hasn’t tailed it.

John H.
John H.
January 15, 2024 10:34 pm

JC
Jan 15, 2024 9:58 PM
Then (apart from deployment allowance), what is the extra reward for being shot at?

Tax free when your life is not on the line.

It will require a much bigger increase in wages than tax relief to have an effect but I don’t think money is the issue. It is the lifestyle, of facing the possibility you’ll have to move every few years. See the world? Most people take overseas holidays. In my generation it wasn’t uncommon for children to share bedrooms. Doesn’t happen now. Who enjoys being yelled at or obeying orders without question? If the younger generation strike an unpleasant boss they will flip jobs. The world has changed, the armed forces hasn’t changed enough.

The sad truth is the armed forces can’t change enough without degrading effectiveness. Orders must be obeyed, deployment is necessary. The modern armed forces isn’t about “over the tops boys and give ’em hell!” it is about using your brains to stop being killed and often operating very technical equipment. Without the comfort of religion who will to risk their life? Who wants to defend a country when for the last 40 years the message has been put yourself first because it is a race to the top? Who will risk their future and potentially their life while their contemporaries keep building their careers and climbing the ladder?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
January 15, 2024 10:34 pm

Zatara.
You might have mentioned a willingness to risk marching in the pre-dawn gloom on Anzac Day.

Digger
Digger
January 15, 2024 10:38 pm

The nation’s most potent warships – the Hobart-class air warfare destroyers – are also suffering crewing issues due to a shortage of combat system operators.

Pretty simple explanation and it effects every aspect of society, including Defence…

GO WOKE – GO BROKE…

Winston Smith
January 15, 2024 10:42 pm

Lizzie/Vicki:
Any patient recovering from a procedure such as yours SHOULD have assistance on either side when transferring from a prone/semi prone position to a chair. That’s basic.
The floors are hard and unforgiving to even a 60 year old, let a person of your tender years.
A fractured femur to a person who has fallen and over the age of 70 is quite likely to have severe complications from a fall.
You need to make a formal complaint before this nurse is responsible for an elderly, fatal, and avoidable fall.

John H.
John H.
January 15, 2024 10:45 pm

What they don’t want is to be forced to participate in massive social experiments. To be commanded by woke or incompetent wankers. To be expendable to political agendas.

It is the younger generations that started the woke crap, endorse it, and reinforce it.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
January 15, 2024 10:47 pm

What they don’t want is to be forced to participate in massive social experiments. To be commanded by woke or incompetent wankers. To be expendable to political agendas.

Well said!

Winston Smith
January 15, 2024 10:48 pm

John H:

I don’t think ads are the problem. Senior leadership doesn’t have the answers. Does anyone?

I think the first place to look at is the individual Corps. Is there any that consistently fail to attract recruits? Or do they attract recruits and cannot keep them? IOW do they have a higher than normal failure to retain, and why?
And finally, what are the reasons they say they are leaving?
I know my resignation letter was refused by my CO because it wasn’t something he would support.

Winston Smith
January 15, 2024 10:54 pm

Boambee John:

Then (apart from deployment allowance), what is the extra reward for being shot at?

The Joy of shooting back with free ammo.
🙂

Winston Smith
January 15, 2024 10:57 pm

Vicki:

Yes, Winston, we have Belted Galloways.

I do hope you realise I was taking the piss about the boob tubes and washing them.
🙂

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
January 15, 2024 10:58 pm

It is the younger generations that started the woke crap, endorse it, and reinforce it.

Not all of them.

MatrixTransform
January 15, 2024 10:58 pm

It is the younger generations that started the woke crap

no. this crap started in the 90’s and it’s only reaching a crescendo now

the current crop are the lesser daemon spawn of your contemporaries

you should have paid attention mate

Entropy
Entropy
January 15, 2024 11:18 pm

The Joy of shooting back with free ammo.
?

isn’t a lack of ammo a well known problem?

JC
JC
January 15, 2024 11:27 pm

I think so, hope so but not sure. Perhaps the radicalised loons on campus were always radicalised.

College Kids Have Independent Minds, Including Harvard Kids

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
January 15, 2024 11:34 pm

Any male seeing those ads will know their needs will be considered less than the females. When the females are away more work for the men.
“My Army gives me all the time I want with my children.”

John H.
John H.
January 15, 2024 11:52 pm

MatrixTransform
Jan 15, 2024 10:58 PM
It is the younger generations that started the woke crap

no. this crap started in the 90’s and it’s only reaching a crescendo now

the current crop are the lesser daemon spawn of your contemporaries

you should have paid attention mate

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The 90’s is young for me. It isn’t my generation endorsing it. It is the under 40’s now driving it. It is older comedians fighting against it(egs. Cleese, Gervais, Chappelle). It is fading but it isn’t relevant to the armed forces recruitment issue. Not even on their radar.

Younger generations can’t see the value in joining. The emphasis now is so much on continuously building a career. I hate that trend because it reduces the flexibility of life choices but that is the situation. I saw people leaving high school at grade 9 and some did very well over the long run. Now that is not possible. Now, get a degree, do a post grad while working, and keep on going. The same for tradies, if the long term goal is to become self-employed, taking 6 years out of that project is a huge impediment.

From JC’s link:

After which, older conservatives should try to show a little more faith in young people. Not only is their pessimism the same as the pessimism that their elders expressed about them when they were in college, it insults today’s youth in the way that elders of the past insulted youth.

Not likely. The comments here too often reflect pessimism in general and a scornful attitude towards the young but as the author goes on to say they are more independently minded. That’s another problem for the military. Independent thinkers are less likely to bow down before authority and will avoid putting themselves in a situation where that is demanded, hence the job flipping I mentioned earlier. They won’t blindly succumb to calls for patriotism and sacrificing one’s life so others may enjoy the good life back home. Individualism is in and altruism is for mugs.

MatrixTransform
January 16, 2024 12:11 am

get off the bongs John H

JC
JC
January 16, 2024 12:14 am

It’s true wokeism began in the 90/s and they were trying hard to brain wash the kids even then.

At a personal level, I saw it in NYC private schools, which was then like living in the mouth of the dragon. Funnily enough the girls schools appeared not to be so woke.

I’ve mentioned before that one of my kids teachers was telling the boys that he was a recovering racist, born into privilege and moved to black Harlem in order to pay penance, as though that wasn’t racist. My kid and his pals were sniggering long after this outburst of insanity.

You couldn’t get a more typical leftwing liberal family than the parents of one of my kid’s pals. Yale educated, lawyers and screaming lefties. She was Boston Irish and he was a NY Jew. Still friends.The son became more right wing as he became older to the total horror of the parents. He now lives in Anchorage and prosecutes criminals as a federal DA in the criminal division.

The other thing that I’ve always kept in kind is Russia. Russia and the eastern bloc were hardcore communist. It took people about a day to walk away from communist ideology and try to live the material life of the West.

I’m far more optimistic about people not buying into stretched out bullshit. Bullshit hits a wall.

MatrixTransform
January 16, 2024 12:21 am

It took people about a day to walk away from communist ideology and try to live the material life of the West.

correction … it took about 100 years

JC
JC
January 16, 2024 12:24 am

Not all of them.

I have a German kid working at the family business straight off the boat.

Incredibly smart, but a blockhead German. Never expect perfection. He’s from Heidelberg which is as leftwing as any German city could be.

This kid hates the trampling immigration and reckons his pals feel the exact same way, and this is Heidelberg! He also hates the current leftwing government and although he believes in gerbil warming, only nuclear can solve the problem. He’s just turned 18.

Digger
Digger
January 16, 2024 12:28 am

Three Prime Ministers are primarily to blame for where we are in Defence.

Abbott
Turnbull
Morrison

Those three gave Marise Payne four ministries from 2013 to 2022 including Minister for Defence for 3 years under Turnbull and Morrison. They may as well have given it to Xi or Putin because she was the most destructive force to impact Australia’s Defence Force in my lifetime.

Then to make it worse Morrison replaced her with Pyne, an incompetent weasel at best…

There was no coming back from the destruction caused by those morons…

JC
JC
January 16, 2024 12:36 am

Digger, the way they went for the SAS dude with the double barrel name (forget) must have had an affect on both morale and recruitment. It was truly shocking trying to second guess someone in a war zone from the comfort of an ergonomic office chair.

JC
JC
January 16, 2024 12:36 am

Effect

Digger
Digger
January 16, 2024 12:55 am

Digger, the way they went for the SAS dude with the double barrel name (forget) must have had an affect on both morale and recruitment. It was truly shocking trying to second guess someone in a war zone from the comfort of an ergonomic office chair.

Yes, corporal Ben Roberts-Smith was attacked, vilified and almost crucified by the media, senior officers, some of his buddies and some in parliament but the Minister when his problems started in 2017 was Payne and she was absent from any protection for him. That would also have been a factor in peoples minds about not enlisting – no-one had his back…

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
January 16, 2024 2:36 am
Steve trickler
Steve trickler
January 16, 2024 2:56 am

Cash is 165 pounds = 74.8427411kg

I could pick him up.

Tom
Tom
January 16, 2024 4:01 am

John Spooner classic.

Tom
Tom
January 16, 2024 4:01 am

More ‘toons tonight after I visit the laptop doctor.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
January 16, 2024 4:07 am

Thanks Tom and Good Luck.

Beertruk
January 16, 2024 5:33 am

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Jan 15, 2024 8:54 PM
Funny how destroying your national culture and history can cause problems with willingness to defend that nation.

Well said “It’s not your country, you’ve no right to be here.”

The entire aim of the ‘yes’ vote.

Rosie
Rosie
January 16, 2024 5:53 am
Bourne1879
Bourne1879
January 16, 2024 6:11 am

The Warner baggy green was never lost it was there all the time.

Petros
Petros
January 16, 2024 6:25 am

A headline in the Australian Financial Review today says that Australia is mulling sanctions against Israel. Is this real? It feels surreal. Is there a phone number to contact Penny Wong’s office? What can we do?

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
January 16, 2024 6:28 am

Digger, the way they went for the SAS dude with the double barrel name (forget) must have had an affect on both morale and recruitment. It was truly shocking trying to second guess someone in a war zone from the comfort of an ergonomic office chair.

Thank you JC a comment for the ages – Ben Roberts-Smith was dismembered for being an unapologetic warrior — they had to get him and get him they did –

Apart from the debacle in the role of many of this lot I’m sure the ABC (and the MSM) has done more to destroy the prospects of the Australian Defence Force. I don’t know if the ADF Academy has been giving value for money either.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 16, 2024 6:30 am

The Trump derangement syndrome is so strong.
The new theory is that the pizza’s that Trump delivered over the weekend were actually empty pizza boxes.
Because there is no way Trump could have carried that much weight.
Seriously.

Imagine if the same energy they spent on Trump, they spent on Biden’s obvious failings.

Beertruk
January 16, 2024 6:35 am

Tried to post the article but the spaminator ate it for some reason.

Linky instead:

Staff at City of Sydney confiscate council’s own ‘problematic’ flag from Liberal councillor

alwaysright
alwaysright
January 16, 2024 6:44 am

Did you know that last year was the hottest year, evah?

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
January 16, 2024 6:49 am

Good heavens, get me the smelling salts I have had two comments accepted by the Oz — within a couple of minutes of each other — after having rejections for months — the wokeists must not get up early.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 16, 2024 6:49 am

If you want to know how unsophisticated the Skynews coverage of Iowa is, their correspondent on the ground has been quoting the weather in fahrenheit to their Australian audience.
Meaning they are watching/reading US media coverage & then regurgitating it.

Rosie
Rosie
January 16, 2024 6:51 am
Beertruk
January 16, 2024 6:53 am

The Paywallion:

Penny Wong urged by families to visit massacre sites in Israel

By JOANNA PANAGOPOULOS ,
REPORTER
BEN PACKHAM
FOREIGN AFFAIRS AND DEFENCE CORRESPONDENT
and JESS MALCOLM
REPORTER

16 Jan 2024

Australians whose loved ones are still being held captive by Hamas or were killed in the October 7 terror attacks are demanding Foreign Minister Penny Wong visit the massacre sites in southern Israel, declaring she has a duty to see in person the horrors of the attacks.

As Senator Wong left Adelaide on Monday for her week-long tour of the Middle East, Anthony Albanese distanced himself from his Foreign Minister’s decision to stay away from the southern Israeli towns targeted by Hamas in the deadliest assault on the Jewish people since the Holocaust.

Jewish leaders in Australia on Monday labelled Senator Wong’s decision a “serious error of judgment”, as family and friends of Hamas’s victims said she must visit the sites – compared by one to Auschwitz – and use her trip to focus on the release of the 140 hostages still held by Hamas.

Before she flew out on Wednesday morning for the diplomatic mission where she vowed to “advocate for a pathway out of this conflict”, Senator Wong defended her position, saying she would meet with survivors of the attacks, as well as families of hostages.

Nikki Perzuck, whose 19-year-old cousin, Naama Levy, has been held by Hamas for 100 days, said Senator Wong “had an obligation and a duty” to Australia and to the families of the hostages to visit the massacre sites, and urged her to change her plans.

“It shouldn’t be a choice. If she goes to the region, that’s what she should do,” Ms Perzuck said, adding the family was “all devastated” that 100 days had passed.

“The family feels that if she’s going to Israel, sent on behalf of our country, she’s obliged to go and see the sites … to understand fully what transpired.

“We feel if she fully understood that, she would be first demanding the release of the hostages … and then talk about ceasefire.

“They’ve still got almost 140 hostages. Demanding the release of the hostages should be her whole angle.”

The Prime Minister said “Penny Wong’s itinerary is a matter for her”. He added later that he was “surprised that this has been raised”.

“There was a call for her to visit, she’s visiting. It’s not about … a photo op,” he told ABC radio.

“We are not a central player in the Middle East, but we are a respected voice, and this visit is about us being able to express our voice and for Penny Wong to see first-hand and to have those discussions face to face.”

On Monday, pro-Palestine supporters gathered outside the Israeli embassy in Canberra, waving Palestinian and South African flags, seemingly in reference to South Africa launching a case against Israel in the International Court of Justice.

Zack Shachar, another Australian cousin of Ms Levy, said by not visiting the kibbutzes, she was ignoring that part of the conflict.

“I think that … not going to see what happened there, she is ignoring what happened there,” he said. “We expect her to help release the hostages and not just to ask for a ceasefire … She needs to understand what happened on the 7th of October. How those monsters invaded Israel and did what they did. To fully understand it, she must visit the south like she would have done in ground zero or Auschwitz.”

Keren Lewinsohn, who grew up on one of the kibbutzes ravaged by Hamas on October 7, Kfar Aza, said it was “extremely disappointing” that our Foreign Minister would not visit the southern Israeli towns, and questioned why she was “avoiding October 7”.

Ms Lewinsohn, who has called Australia home for 16 years, went back to Kfar Aza in December to visit her parents and other family.

Four of her closest friends were among the dozens murdered there on October 7.

“It’s just a disaster. You just walk through there and you know in this house, this person was killed, in this house, this person was murdered, in this one, they were burnt alive, it’s just terrible,” she said.

Ms Lewinsohn said Senator Wong would benefit from seeing the aftermath of October 7 on her town.

“What you see there, you see what the intention was on October 7,” she said.

“The intention of Hamas was to kill as many Jewish people as possible … So just seeing that with your own eyes, and how cruel, hearing stories of women being raped … or being shot in the head, just seeing it for yourself and understanding what this group of Hamas terrorists were able to do.”

Senator Wong’s decision to stay away from the massacre sites stands in contrast to the position of UK and European leaders, who visited the southern Israeli towns where the massacres occurred.

But the minister, who arrives in Jordan about 5am AEST on Tuesday for the first leg of her trip, defended her itinerary.

“I will be meeting with survivors of that attack, as well as families of hostages, and that will be important,” she said before departing Australia. During the trip, Senator Wong also will meet with senior figures in Jordan, ­Israel, the West Bank and the United Arab Emirates.

“I think all of these meetings are about engaging with a wide cross-section of perspectives and parties in the region and to put Australia’s view, but also to listen, and it is an opportunity to do that,” she said.

Executive Council of Australian Jewry co-CEOs Peter Wertheim and Alex Ryvchin said Senator Wong’s decision not to travel to massacre sites is a “serious error of judgment”, and asked her to reconsider.

“The Foreign Minister’s decision to not travel to the scene of Hamas’s atrocities in southern Israel is insulting and deeply concerning,” they said in a joint statement.

“Personally inspecting the south and witnessing the carnage and destruction would not only convey Australia’s support, it is essential to understanding the depth of evil that Israel faces and the necessity of its war to defeat Hamas.”

Opposition foreign affairs spokesman Simon Birmingham, who late last year visited kibbutzes where Hamas slaughtered whole families, said the minister would be unable to gain a full understanding of the conflict without doing the same.

“The failure to visit any of the sites of the October 7 Hamas attacks will disappoint many and deprive Senator Wong of a full appreciation of the atrocities committed,” he said.

“Senator Wong will no doubt hear of frustration at the increasingly confusing stance of the Albanese government, which has said one thing about disabling Hamas but voted in contradictory ways at the UN.”

Liberal senator Dave Sharma also attacked Senator Wong’s decision not to visit the southern Israeli towns, saying it was “deeply insulting” and she “seems to be finding as many ways as possible to insult Israel in the process”.

The head of the General Delegation of Palestine to Australia, Izzat Salah Abdulhadi, urged the minister to call for an “immediate and complete ceasefire and the provision of sufficient, sustained and unimpeded humanitarian assistance to the Palestinian people in Gaza”.

“I also hope Senator Wong will tell Israel the following for the longer term (that) Australia will recognise the state of Palestine without further delay if Israel does not provide a clear plan with a specified time frame for implementing the two-state solution following the end of the war in Gaza,” he said.

Senator Wong’s decision aligns with that of US Secretary of State Antony Blinken, who hasn’t toured the sites but just completed his fifth visit to Israel and the broader region since October 7.

JOANNA PANAGOPOULOS REPORTER

Sum Ting Wong copping it in the comments.
As it should.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 16, 2024 6:56 am

No matter what the result is in Iowa over the next 24 hours, the mainstream media has “Trump underperforms” stories ready to go.

The real story (scandal) is that the DNC has a 7 week window to mail in your vote for their caucus.
But crickets on that front.

Rosie
Rosie
January 16, 2024 6:56 am
Beertruk
January 16, 2024 7:06 am

Tintarella di Luna
Jan 16, 2024 6:49 AM

Tinta, after a few runs of outs, I have now have a couple of runs on the board.
Be nice if you could be briefly told why the comments were rejected in the first place.
And not just the generic ‘breached community standards’ either.
I would like to know which specific ‘standards’ were breached.

feelthebern
feelthebern
January 16, 2024 7:09 am

Baris pointed out a good tell tale sign whether the coverage people watch is from serious analysts or not re Iowa.
If anyone makes a big thing about winning Des Moines county in the coverage, you know they are not serious.
Because Des Moines (the biggest city in Iowa) isn’t in Des Moines county (which has a totally different demograph).

Kind of like when you hear some alleged expert saying Obamacare is “just like our Medicare”.
Whenever I’ve heard that over the years (and it’s been a lot), I’ve dialled down anything they’ve said on any topic as it’s complete & utter garbage.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
January 16, 2024 7:12 am

Sky coverage of the Danish coronation gave us a a doozy.
We were told that Mary’s mother died when she was young….
“so obviously she won’t be here”

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
January 16, 2024 7:14 am

Rosie @5.53am. more settler violence. As retribution the Israelis should destroy their houses, Don’t worry about the rest who live there. They will be happy to join the scum martyrs who have guaranteed their entry to heaven. This is going to be the response to any attacks on Israel. It is past time treating these scum of humanity on an equal footing.

Cassie of Sydney
January 16, 2024 7:19 am

I see that overnight there was a terrorist attack in Israel. From the Oz…

An elderly woman was killed and 18 people were injured, including at least seven children and teenagers, when two Palestinians rammed cars into separate crowds before stabbing some of their victims in the Israel city of Ra’anana overnight (AEDT).

The attackers, who have been identified as two West Bank Palestinians working in Israel illegally seized at least three vehicles and rammed pedestrians in several locations in the city, police, medics, and eyewitnesses told Israel media. More

Just some background, I’ve been to Ra’anana, it’s a lovely and quite wealthy Israeli town. It attracts Jewish immigrants from South Africa, the US, Australia and the UK. I know quite a few people who live there.

Like the attacks on 7 October, in Southern Israel, which are within pre-67 borders, Ra’anana also lies within pre-67 borders. So, make no mistake, the aims of 7 October, along with the attack overnight, it to kill Jews and to wipe Israel off the face of the earth.

From the river to the sea…..and they mean it.

Further to the overnight attack, I note Senator Penis Wank, bully extraordinaire, has landed in Jordan, and is now preparing to lecture Israel on “settler violence”. I suspect she’s thinks she’s gonna bully the Israeli government just like she bullied Senator Linda Reynolds that day in the senate estimates committee over La Higgins. I remember watching Penis Wank’s body language that day with Reynolds. Penis Wank behaved like some gorilla on heat who’d donned a military jacket, jumping up and down trying to be scare others. She reminded me of a transsexual General MacArthur. It didn’t make for nice viewing because you were watching a fetid putrid creature getting off on her bullying of another woman. My God she is atrocious.

But Senator Penis Wank can gorilla all she likes when in Israel. I suspect the Israeli’s will take little notice of this disgusting creature. Whilst she will be treated diplomatically, she’ll be ignored. Oh and further to the overnight murder and stabbings in Ra’anana, I look forward to a comment from Senator Penis Wank on “Palestinian violence”.

calli
calli
January 16, 2024 7:35 am

She timed her visit well. /sarc

They appear to have murdered another two hostages in Gaza also.

She might want to lecture her betters on that too.

Top Ender
Top Ender
January 16, 2024 7:37 am

A comment in the Oz this morning under the article about Navy not being able to man its ships:

Maurice
47 MINUTES AGO
Why would our young people join the defence force when Labor doesn’t really believe Australia is worth defending? If Australia “always was, always will be” aboriginal land then what is the role for the rest of us? Has anyone heard a Labor politician say they are proud of this country? I must have missed it. The Greens want to dismantle the ADF. Has anyone heard a Labor politician run the place down? They do it all the time.

This constant denigration ultimately has an effect. My father, brother and almost all my uncles spent the best part of their young lives in places like New Guinea, Britain, Norway and in a German POW camp. I wonder if they would have second thoughts about joining up now.

Cassie of Sydney
January 16, 2024 7:39 am

They appear to have murdered another two hostages in Gaza also.

Yep.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
January 16, 2024 7:43 am
Boambee John
Boambee John
January 16, 2024 7:46 am

Rosie
Jan 16, 2024 5:57 AM
hamas announces they have murdered two of the three hostages in yesterday’s video. Evil men.

Surely this is incontrovertibly a war crime? Has our “esteemed” Foreign Minister condemned it as such?

Boambee John
Boambee John
January 16, 2024 7:48 am

Tinta

I don’t know if the ADF Academy has been giving value for money either.

A Parliamentary report in the 1990s described ASFA as a “military nunnery”, and not in a complimentary way.

Rosie
Rosie
January 16, 2024 7:50 am

retribution the Israelis should destroy their houses

Don’t worry, they will.

Rosie
Rosie
January 16, 2024 7:51 am

No doubt the Palestinian Authority will reward them with ‘pay for slay’.

vr
vr
January 16, 2024 7:54 am

Surely this is incontrovertibly a war crime? Has our “esteemed” Foreign Minister condemned it as such?

I thought she was the most popular member of parliament. this was according to “the age”.

Crossie
Crossie
January 16, 2024 7:55 am

feelthebern
Jan 16, 2024 6:49 AM
If you want to know how unsophisticated the Skynews coverage of Iowa is, their correspondent on the ground has been quoting the weather in fahrenheit to their Australian audience.
Meaning they are watching/reading US media coverage & then regurgitating it.

Annelise Nielsen looked really fetching though while standing under a snow laden pine branch.

OldOzzie
OldOzzie
January 16, 2024 7:58 am

Different Way to Go!

Haunting final moments of man, 30, who died inside plane’s engine are revealed as he breached airport security, burst through emergency exit then ran shoeless across the runway

. Kyler Efinger, 30, died on January 1 after climbing into the engine of a plane

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
January 16, 2024 8:03 am

If Australia “always was, always will be” aboriginal land then what is the role for the rest of us?

Ka-whap.

132andBush
132andBush
January 16, 2024 8:03 am

Yes, corporal Ben Roberts-Smith was attacked, vilified and almost crucified by the media, senior officers, some of his buddies

I thought it was accepted, especially after Oct 7, that killing of non combatants was not on.

Boambee John
Boambee John
January 16, 2024 8:04 am

Cassie

Oh and further to the overnight murder and stabbings in Ra’anana, I look forward to a comment from Senator Penis Wank on “Palestinian violence”.

Don’t hold your breath.

Beertruk
January 16, 2024 8:07 am

Top Ender
Jan 16, 2024 7:37 AM

A comment in the Oz this morning under the article about Navy not being able to man its ships:

The ADF being involved in the annual sewage march down Oxford St dosen’t help either.

However I do have two nephews in the Navy, one has been in about nine years and his younger brother joined January last year.
Both of them love being in the Navy despite the crap and issues we are reading about.
The older brother should be here in Toowoomba for ANZAC Day this year, so I will quizz him about manning issues on the ships…if the brain cell that information is stored in dosen’t go ‘missing in action’ due to a nip of rum in a cup of tea prior to the dawn service and the ensuing beer consumption afterwards.

lotocoti
lotocoti
January 16, 2024 8:21 am

I have made the decision to ban Hizb ut-Tahrir in the UK.

Should make things fun on the opposition benches.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
January 16, 2024 8:22 am

Fairer Sex news (the Hun):

Two women have been flown to hospital with serious injuries after one woman set the other on fire in Shepparton.

Police believe a 25-year-old Shepparton woman was set alight by a 33-year-old Shepparton woman on Middlesex Cres about 6:30pm on Monday.

After fleeing the scene, the 33-year-old woman was found nearby and flown to hospital under police guard.

As these ladies are from Shep, it is highly likely the pre-BBQ conversation went along the lines of:

‘Stay away frum meh maaaan ya slut caaaarnt’

Indolent
Indolent
January 16, 2024 8:24 am
Vicki
Vicki
January 16, 2024 8:24 am

Re: the killing of non-combatants

The central issue in many circumstances is determining who exactly the real combatants are. In many areas of the globe they just dont wear uniforms. The deaths of identifiable soldiers by IEDs in ME war zones, in addition to being suddenly fired on by so called civilians, are all hazards – as most on this blog realise.

Vagabond
Vagabond
January 16, 2024 8:35 am

But Senator Penis Wank can gorilla all she likes when in Israel. I suspect the Israeli’s will take little notice of this disgusting creature.

I refer to that disgusting creature as Poxy Wank.

Penises shouldn’t be insulted by being associated with a human zero who wouldn’t have anything to do with one!

Vicki
Vicki
January 16, 2024 8:38 am

Cassie, re Wong in Israel:

One of the many things I admire about Israelis is their coolness in the face of aggression. I was in Israel during the first Intifada & recall visiting I think it was a market in Nablus when the local Pallies started to pick up stones to hurl at us tourists. Happened again on Temple Mount when Pallies objected to a young couple holding hands. Our guide was just so cool & quietly directed us to safety. Saw the same with the police guards in Bethlehem & again at the airport.

Faced with the unimaginable horror of 7 October they have been determined and incredibly solid – civilians included. I would always want them on my side. They will know who and what Wong thinks. I hope they show the disdain she deserves.

John Brumble
John Brumble
January 16, 2024 8:39 am

Hey clown:
Gobert “born 5 March 1975 in Greenacre, New South Wales, Australia”

What is if about Blues (light or datk) and arrogant stupidity?

JC
JC
January 16, 2024 8:56 am

I wonder where this fits into the LBTQYOTRGHK pyramid?

FBI: Oregon Nazi Supporter Charged With Communicating Threat

It’s a trannie

https://www.courtwatch.news/p/fbi-oregon-nazi-supporter-charged

Crossie
Crossie
January 16, 2024 9:05 am

I just don’t understand the hyperventilation about the US primaries and the Iowa Caucuses in particular. Trump will win and nothing the media do will change that, the only unknown is by what margin. All of it is a non-event as those running against Trump will not even be chosen as VP candidates. The whole thing deserves a minute in a news bulletin with just the reports of final counts.

flyingduk
flyingduk
January 16, 2024 9:05 am

In todays Oz:

Staff crisis leaves frigates ‘high and dry’
Defence is looking at mothballing up to two more of the navy’s frontline Anzac-class frigates as crippling crew shortages undermine the nation’s military capabilities.

Perhaps spending the last few decades white anting national pride with ‘diverse’ immigration and relentless propaganda about ‘invasion day’ wasn’t a good idea?

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