Open Thread – Weekend 10 Feb 2024


Argenteuil, Flowers by the Riverbank, Claude Monet, 1877

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Rosie
Rosie
February 11, 2024 5:05 pm

Smith’s site, which I now never visit, nested comments are awful to read on a phone.
Please no.
I like the way the open forum operates as it is.
As for vaccines, I’ve had five, time them for my long trips to Europe.
Didn’t want to be as sick as JC was while travelling.
Never had covid.

JC
JC
February 11, 2024 5:08 pm

Actionable. Be wise to call your lawyer, get billed $2,000 just to see where you stand peddling that lie.
Wouldn’t want you to lose your house. Unlike a bet, when a court orders you to pay, welching is not an option.

Wasn’t me repeating, “be very, careful, tread carefully”. That was you, you dishonest lice ridden push big. Go clean the mold, you blowhard.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
February 11, 2024 5:08 pm

You would require several days of good data to be able to figure if the change promotes a speedier connection or not because, you don’t know over a tiny period of time

You’re agreeing that Sancho is talking out of his botty each time he’s announced the site is moving faster without ticks.

You may have a valid point there about Sancho.

Mark Bolton
February 11, 2024 5:09 pm

So asking about the general view on

The Greyzone perspective

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lr2xWZ0g2iY

give rise to this response?

You make my point for me.

Rabz
February 11, 2024 5:10 pm

the March 2 Dunkley by-election in Crankston, Disasterstan

err, Tommy, don’t by-elections historically, inevitably go against the government?

These staggeringly incompetent labore imbeciles should be so on the nose they lose the next feral erection, Abbott style.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
February 11, 2024 5:10 pm

you dishonest lice ridden push big. Go clean the mold, you blowhard.

Now that ticks are not available, you won’t get to see the 68 upticks that comment would surely have received. 😅

Salvatore, Iron Publican
February 11, 2024 5:12 pm

go clean the mold

Well, you went to either Curtain or Deacon uni

JMH
JMH
February 11, 2024 5:13 pm

Slow as a wet week here. Normal blog behaviour when it reaches 4 or 5 pages. Maybe Dover might consider introducing a new Open Thread daily, which may also reduce pressure on the server. Just a thought.

Zafiro
Zafiro
February 11, 2024 5:14 pm

Lived in a court for last 2+ years. Quiet place (except for when the two resident crows start carrying on). Some new mob opposite in a rental. Looks like single mother and some teenage/early adult offspring. Other P plate Commodore driving hangers on also.

They have a dog that has been keen on incessant barking in the middle of the night. Last night and a night last week. Woke up old mate who sleeps down in the back room. Bloke next door to them is a cool dude and good neighbour, but tatts on the face concreter badass. If he doesn’t sort it, I will.

Go back to Norlane/Corio you shit xunts. They move to places like where I am to get away from those shit holes, but just end up bringing it with them.

Rabz
February 11, 2024 5:18 pm

That stupid evil moozley imbecile (BIRM)

Or,

A classic English Rose

Cats, in any normal Universe, this would not even be a contest.

MatrixTransform
February 11, 2024 5:19 pm

and … its wanker time for the rest of the day

Rosie
Rosie
February 11, 2024 5:20 pm

Site’s loading very slowly for me.
Tyranny of distance?

JC
JC
February 11, 2024 5:23 pm

Now that ticks are not available, you won’t get to see the 68 upticks that comment would surely have received.

What I found extraordinary is that like you, the least discussed commenters, had an extraordinary uptick count. Yours began later, which suggests someone had to spend a long time repeatedly going over how to flick the ticks. You couldn’t even finagle that without rooting it up, you bonehead.

Mark Bolton
February 11, 2024 5:24 pm

@Bruce of Newcastle
Feb 11, 2024 5:05 PM

“Read the book Mark.”

Mate .. In all earnestness I do try to “Read the Book” mostly it just comes across as words words and more dusty words… I just dont understand .. not that they are wrong and I an right or anything so stupid ..just that there is a disconnect.

The Gospel makes a little bit more sense.

May the Almighty have Mercy on all us fools and sinners. (We seem to have none for each other) …

I thank you for you caring words…

Rabz
February 11, 2024 5:26 pm

Oh, grate, Bolto the Beautiful™? …

Siltstone
Siltstone
February 11, 2024 5:26 pm

Rockdoctor 4:51
Bonnie Doon pub bar is fine, nice fire when cold, pool table, tucker good.
You mentioned apples growing along roadside. I cycled the “rail trail” that passes Bonnie Doon and came across a tree with plenty of fruit in a random spot. Maybe grown from apples cores chucked out by passengers.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
February 11, 2024 5:29 pm

What I found extraordinary is that like you, the least discussed commenters, had an extraordinary uptick count.

Do you need the waaaaambulance?
Someone had a higher uptick count than you – harden up, you big girl.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 11, 2024 5:30 pm

johnny appleseed grew up in bonnydoon

oar could bee sight of a long gone house with orchid

Rabz
February 11, 2024 5:31 pm

a tree with plenty of fruit in a random spot

Silts, what sort of apples?

Granny Smiths remain my favourites. 🙂

Rosie
Rosie
February 11, 2024 5:33 pm

Reading excuses.
If you are going to reference ‘culture’ as the reason for differences in responses to world events between individuals don’t be surprised if people point out some negative aspects of your culture.
Jews, by the way know all about slurs, the koran has them descending from pigs and apes.
The world had iirc 54 muslim countries and nearly 2 billion muslims, Jews have one tiny country and a world population of under 16 million. Christian Europe wasn’t exactly a safe haven either.
The Dutch don’t have an entire religion who’s manifesto includes killing them, or the within living memory experiences of the Holocaust, perhaps if it did it
might colour their ‘culture’.

Rosie
Rosie
February 11, 2024 5:36 pm

Maybe Dover could ban the word ‘tick’.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 11, 2024 5:36 pm

The Dutch don’t have an entire religion who’s manifesto includes killing them, or the within living memory experiences of the Holocaust, perhaps if it did it
might colour their ‘culture’.

walk a mile in my clogs

Rosie
Rosie
February 11, 2024 5:38 pm
Mark Bolton
February 11, 2024 5:39 pm


Feb 11, 2024 5:33 PM

The 40s were Salad Days for gangs of murderous cowards. It wasnt just Jews. It was Poles on the wrong side of the controversy. Italians . Germans caught omn the wrong side of some arcane territorial boundary .. But these gangs werent interested in anything but the glee of murdering human beings. Any justification or none ..

May God have Mercy.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 11, 2024 5:40 pm

oh dear

someone has been talking to faultys lawyer

who wanted to sue me over insulting him

and pointing out that his perdictions were …

faulty

JC
JC
February 11, 2024 5:40 pm

Wanker time? Trans, you’ve been “intellectualizing” all day about ticks, as well as dissing me and sanchez along the way. All day. It’s like you’re were a google senior software engineer, you bozo. Stick to flicking the switch and STFU.

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 11, 2024 5:41 pm

Rosie

The Dutch don’t have an entire religion who’s manifesto includes killing them, or the within living memory experiences of the Holocaust, perhaps if it did it
might colour their ‘culture’.

The Dutch had the “Hunger Winter” of 1944-45, but are now trying to close down a large slice of their farms. Idiocy sometimes beats a frugal, industrious, culture.

Siltstone
Siltstone
February 11, 2024 5:41 pm

Rabz, not Grannies. A yellow -green variety not seen in Colesworth. Ok taste. My favourite are the stripey ones – gravensteins? Straight from a tree.

Allergy
Allergy
February 11, 2024 5:43 pm

Hi dover0beach,

If it’s any help I often get the message

“waiting for secure.gravatar.com”

in the bottom left-hand corner of screen while waiting for a page to load.
Might be worth looking at whether this is a bottleneck?

Rabz
February 11, 2024 5:43 pm

Outsiders this morning had a (cue spookee muzak …) Jewish security consultant on who had gifted them with “new” footage of the October 9 Oprah House international antisemitic disgrace …

At least Rowan D had the good grace to warn us that the footage would elevate the nation’s collective blood pressure.

Politicians plus pikes plus axes.

Some de-assembling required.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 11, 2024 5:43 pm

Mate .. In all earnestness I do try to “Read the Book” mostly it just comes across as words words and more dusty words… I just dont understand

Yeah, Mark, I noticed that. What most people don’t get is the Bible is an incredibly dense and interconnected body of work. For instance I was listening to a podcast today which talked about a guy called Melchizedek. If you look into his place in the bible (it’s in Genesis, which pretty much everyone regards as a tract written at least 3500 years ago) he fits perfectly with the words of Jesus Christ, his office and the rest of the prophesies. But you have to work at it to understand that.

No different to my profession chemistry. Got to start with acids and alkalis looong before you get to enantiomers and electrophilic addition reactions (which was my thesis topic).

Rosie
Rosie
February 11, 2024 5:44 pm

Egypt don’t want the IDF to take the war to Rafah because they don’t want Palestinians flooding into the Sinai. Why? Because they won’t be able to sent them back when it’s over?
I wonder how many people in Gaza would really rather live somewhere else, Hamas or no Hamas.
Anyhow, ethnic cleansing!
the wall

calli
calli
February 11, 2024 5:45 pm

Matrix was helpful about the Tocks* and the cookies. Even I understood that.

*h/t Rosie

Rosie
Rosie
February 11, 2024 5:45 pm

Of course if hamas weren’t hiding themselves and the hostages in Rafah the IDF wouldn’t be launching an offensive there.

Zafiro
Zafiro
February 11, 2024 5:45 pm

Only two things I hate in this world. The Dutch, and the Poll Tax. h/t Michael Caine in Goldmember. Not sure what the Poll Tax is, though I have heard of it. Dutch? F yeah.

JC
JC
February 11, 2024 5:47 pm

Sancho Panzer
Feb 11, 2024 5:40 PM

oh dear

someone has been talking to faultys lawyer

who wanted to sue me over insulting him

and pointing out that his perdictions were …

faulty

Coming from the fraud making wifebeater accusations, and tells folks to tread carefully. And then, to top it all off, he reckons, I have no idea who I’m dealing with. You can’t make this shit up if you tried.

Rabz
February 11, 2024 5:47 pm

Thanks, Silts – Gravensteins

Not eaten one in many, many moons …

Rosie
Rosie
February 11, 2024 5:50 pm

You don’t need to read the bible to be a good Christian.
The first Christians certainly didn’t.
God won’t be giving you an exam on how many verses you can parse.
It’s a nice, not a must.
It’s how you live that really matters.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 11, 2024 5:51 pm

The Dutch had the “Hunger Winter” of 1944-45,

Mme Zulu’s mother survived the “Hunger Winter.” You never wasted food in the house when Mme Zulu grew up.

Crossie
Crossie
February 11, 2024 5:52 pm

Roger
Feb 11, 2024 1:36 PM
This has been troubling me greatly lately.
We are likely to be the first Australian generation who bequeath a worse standard of living to our children and to our grandchildren in particular. It’s that third generation who will be the ones who pay the real cost for the foolishness of our political caste unless the problems that caste has created around energy, the economy/productivity and immigration can be righted before the end of this decade, preferably sooner.

Even during the 80s when mortgage interest rates rose as high as 17%pa it never got as bad as it is today due to the inflation of everything. Wages and salaries went up along with the housing prices so it was more manageable than today. Now we have the price of everything going up including home loan interest rates yet wages are stagnant and have been for over a decade. The only way a lot of families are staying afloat is that both partners work full time while that was much less the case in the 80, women who worked tended to do so part-time.

Times are really tough and our governments are working at making them even harder by pushing up power and petrol prices to squeeze people into electrical cars and renewable energy that just doesn’t make sense.

Those Teslas being driven around are two middle fingers raised at the mortgage suburbs by the Teals, Labor and Greens. We will see how it turns out next election, maybe it needs another 60/40 result to bring our rulers to their senses.

JC
JC
February 11, 2024 5:56 pm

. Wages and salaries went up along with the housing prices so it was more manageable than today. Now we have the price of everything going up including home loan interest rates yet wages are stagnant and have been for over a decade.

Crossie, last year the Liar’s party tribunal raised the mini wage by 8.75% and awards by 5.75%. Big increase that seeps all through the wage+ salary ladder and therefore prices. From vague memory incomes, in aggregate rose by over 4% in 2023. That’s not to suggest people are having it hard, but so are businesses too.

Rabz
February 11, 2024 5:57 pm

someone has been talking to Faulty’s lawyer

With many, many imaginary litigation millions won in a bizarre parallel universe.

calli
calli
February 11, 2024 5:59 pm

You don’t need to read the bible to be a good Christian.
The first Christians certainly didn’t.

They had the Torah, Rosie. And they knew it well. Saint Paul quotes it all the time in his letters, as does Saint Peter.

I agree though that all the head knowledge in the world won’t make a jot of difference if your heart doesn’t belong to Christ.

Dot
Dot
February 11, 2024 5:59 pm

Mortgage crash, properties crash, gold boom, dollar drops to 0.40 USD, gold struck at Mallina, Yule and Mt B.

Okay I’m sundowning but this is a nice dream.

Also

There’s a war after this and I’m long uranium and gold.

Mark Bolton
February 11, 2024 6:03 pm

@Bruce of Newcastle
Feb 11, 2024 5:43 PM

Disclaimer – completely Off Topic and forgive me.

Bruce ; As to Genesis ? I was raised as an Aethiist but it worked out I was wrong . Or was lead astray. If So why do the first few chapters co align so comfortably with the Scientific perspective?

All this is what it is and the Sun comes up and the Sun goes down …. but I have no time for books …I cant Look Life Up .. I just gotta get it as right as I can … Like NOW!

Today you/I could have been a POS .. or you/I could ..and very carefully I say, Followed the Savior,( not as some goad wielding tyrant … ) or just have done what you would have done anyway and following no one … but the Savior inside of You ..

And that is just me with the Gospel!!

The OT? … my eyes glaze over …

BTW ..I am pretty good a Chemisty too . 😉

Blessings …

Bluey
Bluey
February 11, 2024 6:05 pm

Dot
Feb 11, 2024 5:59 PM
Mortgage crash, properties crash, gold boom, dollar drops to 0.40 USD, gold struck at Mallina, Yule and Mt B.

Okay I’m sundowning but this is a nice dream.

Also

There’s a war after this and I’m long uranium and gold.

War is often the reset or distraction through history. Certainly looks like the stage is being set.

Rabz
February 11, 2024 6:05 pm

last year the Liar’s party tribunal* raised the mini wage by 8.75% and awards by 5.75%

JC – The NMW increase was 5.75% – not sure about the 8.75% figure?

*AKA the “Fair Work Commission” (FWC), which for my sins, I’ve had to appear before a “Full Bench” of, on several occasions.

FFS, I’m just an ‘umble Economist, not a f*cking lawyer! 😕

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 11, 2024 6:05 pm

You don’t need to read the bible to be a good Christian.

Absolutely true Rosie. John 5:24.

This is one of the amazing things about that book, is the recipe is so simple and exact. The other thousand pages explain the mechanics of why it works. It’s like e = mc^2. To understand that equation you need many years of university physics, yet the equation is elegantly short.

Rabz
February 11, 2024 6:07 pm

I am a petty good a Chemisty too

I tells ya … 😕

Dot
Dot
February 11, 2024 6:07 pm

Bruce ; As to Genesis ? I was raised as an Aethiist but it worked out I was wrong . Or was lead astray. If So why do the first few chapters co align so comfortably with the Scientific perspective?

Hi Graeme. You think the serpent in the garden being translated to Na’cash or the shining one co aligns with the Scientific perspective?

BTW ..I am pretty good a Chemisty too .

Right, you’re a trained chemist as well.

You can be whatever you believe you can be.

JC
JC
February 11, 2024 6:08 pm

Wages in Australia have been pretty much tracking the inflation rate. Between those years where it looks like a big dipper, wages were till tracking inflation, as CPI growth was minuscule in that period. In fact, the RBA was getting heat because CPI had remained below target for a very long time and people wanted them to get it back to target. The reason that wages haven’t see decent real increases is because our productivity has been worse than woeful. Real wages can only rise with increases in productivity.

JC
JC
February 11, 2024 6:11 pm

Rabz

Yeah the mini went up by 8.75% from recollection.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 11, 2024 6:13 pm

Rabz

Feb 11, 2024 5:57 PM

someone has been talking to Faulty’s lawyer

With many, many imaginary litigation millions won in a bizarre parallel universe.

mmmyes

shit that was funny

obviously talked to legal beagle (conveyancer) about online abuse

beagle says its a thing

faulty issues threats of littergation

i say yeah but anonymous blog entities cant sue each other
wheres the reputational damage if you are an unknown

obviously beagle then clarified that sock puppets on a blog cant in fact sue

nek minnit he starts dropping hints about his real name including his email address

which i pretended i didnt see

really funny
he got really frantic to garner evidence that i knew his name

which i have forgotten

hes that sorta guy

JC
JC
February 11, 2024 6:15 pm

You’re right, Rabz, it went up by 5.75%.

From 1 July 2023:

the?National Minimum Wage increased to $882.80 per week or $23.23 per hour
award minimum wages?increase by 5.75%.

Mark Bolton
February 11, 2024 6:15 pm

@ Bruce of Newcastle
Feb 11, 2024 6:05 PM

“Absolutely true Rosie. John 5:24.”

Up tick + 6.02214076 E^ 23

Ooops crap joke… 😉

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 11, 2024 6:16 pm

Roger at 2:42

And see the stats on distressed property sales in NSW & VIC I posted earlier this morning. The middle class, which was built up in Menzies’ time, is being slowly squeezed out of existence.

BAU. Taxes don’t matter if you’re rich or poor.

calli
calli
February 11, 2024 6:19 pm

I prefer that Greek guy’s 3:4:5 Bruce.

As demonstrated this week, handy for set outs. Apart from the diagonal check, that is. 😀

JC
JC
February 11, 2024 6:20 pm

LOL

I’m not sure who’s right.

What is the minimum wage in Australia?

As of 1st July 2023, the minimum wage is $23.23 per hour, or $882.80 per 38-hour week. This is a 8.6% increase of the national minimum wage. This increase applies from the first full pay period starting on or after July 1 2023.

It appears awards went up by 5.75%.

Tom
Tom
February 11, 2024 6:20 pm

The reason that wages haven’t see decent real increases is because our productivity has been worse than woeful. Real wages can only rise with increases in productivity.

Correct, JC.

That’s because the trade union government no longer represents the Australian working class, just the fat cat union leadership getting rich from superannuation management fees who represent less than 10% of the real economy workforce.

Relieved of the obligation to represent workers, Australian unions now are nothing more than breeding grounds for political radicals, whose current obsession is hatred of Australia.

Rabz
February 11, 2024 6:22 pm

From 1 July 2023, the National Minimum Wage will increase by 5.75%.

JC – this is my bread and butter, Squire. The 8.75% figure is not quite there.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
February 11, 2024 6:23 pm

Sancho Panzer Feb 11, 2024 6:13 PM

Shorter Sancho: When making threats last night to sue Catallaxians who don’t meekly absorb his abuse, JC was talking out of his anus.

feelthebern
feelthebern
February 11, 2024 6:23 pm

Those Hamas supporters are an excitable lot.
Clearly they only were chanted “Where’s the Jews” because they wanted to show some brotherly love.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 11, 2024 6:25 pm

Yeah I know the number of avocados. Apparently that number of avos weighs 8.377*10^22 kg, which is bigger than the Moon (at only 7.342*10^22 kg).

Rabz
February 11, 2024 6:28 pm

When too much psychedelic mulletage is barely enough, Cats! 🙂

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 11, 2024 6:29 pm

Chemistry joke, if anyone was wondering.

Mark Bolton
February 11, 2024 6:30 pm

@Bruce of Newcastle
Feb 11, 2024 6:25 PM

I wonder where we can find sufficient Balsamic Vinegar!!?

Daunting…

Roger
Roger
February 11, 2024 6:30 pm

They had the Torah, Rosie. And they knew it well. Saint Paul quotes it all the time in his letters, as does Saint Peter.

‘And beginning with Moses and the Prophets, [Jesus] explained to them what was said in all the Scriptures concerning himself.’

Luke 24:27

Damienski
Damienski
February 11, 2024 6:31 pm

Nothing more to say. Good luck.

Allow me to harbour some reluctance to believe this

JC
JC
February 11, 2024 6:32 pm

Salvatore, Iron Publican
Feb 11, 2024 6:23 PM

Sancho Panzer Feb 11, 2024 6:13 PM

Shorter Sancho: When making threats last night to sue Catallaxians who don’t meekly absorb his abuse, JC was talking out of his anus.


Sanchez, The fraud’s threat of the need tread carefully was a veiled threat of legal action, which is amusing because of the abuse he’s posted.

He didn’t like the reply detailing his own abuse, so being the fraud, faux publican and self upticker, he’s now accusing me of instating the threat. So typical.

Busy, busy publican. No time to stoush.

Rabz
February 11, 2024 6:34 pm

For a bit more context, Cats – the mid eighties – if you can remember any of it, you weren’t there! 🙂

JC
JC
February 11, 2024 6:34 pm

Is the 8.6% rate wrong then Rabz?

Aren’t the national mini wage and the national mini award wage different?

Rabz
February 11, 2024 6:35 pm

And if you vote for me, you ain’t black! 😕

Siltstone
Siltstone
February 11, 2024 6:37 pm

Re wages. CMFEU just got 25% increase over next several years (in WA). Planning for idiotic Brisbane Olympics construction is so dysfunctional that when the time comes the CMFEU will have a blackmail bonanza and Brisbane rate payers and Qld tax payers will be screwed for decades while the comrades sit back sipping only from the top shelf.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 11, 2024 6:37 pm

When too much psychedelic mulletage is barely enough, Cats! 🙂

We doing hymns? Ok.

The Church – Under The Milky Way live Enmore Theatre (2023)

Roger
Roger
February 11, 2024 6:38 pm

The reason that wages haven’t see decent real increases is because our productivity has been worse than woeful. Real wages can only rise with increases in productivity.

As mentioned earlier, we’ve slipped back to 2016 levels of productivity, and that’s without the impact of Labor’s new IR laws being felt.

JC
JC
February 11, 2024 6:41 pm

Here:

H W
1 July 2022. $21.38 $812.44
1 July 2023. $23.23 $882.80

If that’s right the NMW was an increase of 8.6%.

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=national+minium+wage+in+2022

Salvatore, Iron Publican
February 11, 2024 6:41 pm

… and that’s without the impact of Labor’s new IR laws being felt.

The new IR laws should be causing job losses & failed businesses just in time for the next federal election campaign.

Mark Bolton
February 11, 2024 6:41 pm

There are some that invoke Johnny Rotten IRL ; John Lydon and Sancho Panza, a character from Don Quixote … both magnificent exemplars of our culture.

Seemingly with not much understanding or appreciation of how helpful they might both be to us if we actually bothered to find out who they are.

Indolent
Indolent
February 11, 2024 6:42 pm
Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
February 11, 2024 6:42 pm

Cheers SS. Been a while since I have gone further than the Alex turn off. BD Pub was heaving so we didn’t stop, nice deck ovelooking Eildon too which is near full.

Seems to be heaps of wild apples all the way to Trawool on the highway easement. The rest of the drivers must have been wondering what these crazy Queenslanders were up to in thongs picking apples like hobo’s on the side of the hwy…

Heaps of blackberries between Molesworth & Trawool as well the mrs spotted. Wrong time of year though & had to explain to the other half Vic CF&L designate blackberries a weed so they’ll likely dissapear before our next forray down here.

Rosie
Rosie
February 11, 2024 6:45 pm

A follow up on Golfo Aranci.
Small fishing village pre tourism. Not much else agricultural activity wise in this corner of Sardinia. The coastline is magnificent, granite hills, islands, low scrub but wild and inhospitable, now with bays tamed for tourism.
I’m very sorry the train wasn’t running, it runs along the coast between Golfo Aranci and Marinella, and the road did not.
Marinella was the most ghost town of all, the big hotel was completely closed and not a soul to be seen.
Me on my exclusive coach headed back in the setting sun, the sun on one great outcrop had it glowing, spectacular.
Back in Oblia the locals were finally out on Saturday evening, there was a little outbreak of Carnevale on the harbour side and general promenading as the clouds had finally scuttled away.
I’m finally going to see the interior of the ancient church next door properly, no weekday masses, no lights on, it’s very gloomy inside, not many windows. The very bare St Simplicio was brighter, another Diocletian martyr from 304 AD, the current church dating, not including additions and alterations, to the 11th century.
I’m off to Sassari this afternoon, train, €8.10.

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 11, 2024 6:46 pm

For a bit more context, Cats – the mid eighties – if you can remember any of it, you weren’t there!

I started with the NAB at the beginning of 88 and transferred to Corporate Banking Victoria around 1990 just as Pyramid and everything was collapsing. It was ugly. A well known engineering firm (now owned by the Chinese) was having every cheque written referred to the manager who was only paying wages cheques.

Roger
Roger
February 11, 2024 6:46 pm

Planning for idiotic Brisbane Olympics construction is so dysfunctional that when the time comes the CMFEU will have a blackmail bonanza and Brisbane rate payers and Qld tax payers will be screwed for decades while the comrades sit back sipping only from the top shelf.

The labour movement is now an extortion racket with a party-political front.

JC
JC
February 11, 2024 6:48 pm

Rosie

Just go stay on Porto Cervo. They even had a Harrods there when we stayed, proving just how authentic the place was. LOL.

Rosie
Rosie
February 11, 2024 6:50 pm

I guess that was my point, they heard the bible, as we still still do, and had it explained to them by the apostles and then by their bishops and priests.
Reading it is not a prerequisite for heaven.

Rabz
February 11, 2024 6:50 pm

err, JC – here’s the wording:

The Panel has also decided to increase all modern award minimum wage rates by 5.75 per cent, effective from the first full pay period on or after 1 July 2023

Mark Bolton
February 11, 2024 6:51 pm

@Bruce of Newcastle
Feb 11, 2024 6:37 PM

“We doing hymns? Ok.” Always up for it brother but I like this version better ;

Jimmy Little … ~wiping a tear~ reminds me of jail … where you have to get it right or not at all ..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHVdpdK1-qc

Peace ..

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 11, 2024 6:51 pm

And if you vote for me, you ain’t black!

It’s ok Rabz, I’ll vote for you.

AC/DC – Back In Black (1980)

Rosie
Rosie
February 11, 2024 6:52 pm

Which is exactly the same as what the Jews did and do, in synagogue, in a three year cycle, as is also the practice in the Catholic Church.

Rosie
Rosie
February 11, 2024 6:53 pm

Jesus of course also preaching in the synagogues.

JC
JC
February 11, 2024 6:54 pm

That’s okay, Rabz. No issue being wrong. The reason I’m going into this is because our business’s comp advisory firm told us there were two sets of increases and we ended up paying some awards and some mini based on those two numbers. I’ll be checking in with them tomorrow. 🙂

Annie
Annie
February 11, 2024 6:55 pm

I hope you enjoyed your day Rockdoctor, you were fairly near my neck of the woods. The blackberries went mad around here this year; very big and juicy. Daughter picked plenty before they sprayed the plants. I picked a few ‘wild’ ones on our place and a load of ‘tame’ ones (American thornless). Wild ones hacked back a bit for now.

Rabz
February 11, 2024 6:56 pm

1 July 2022. $21.38 $812.44
1 July 2023. $23.23 $882.80*

Yep, I checked that as well. How the f*ck they claimed it was 5.75% when it clearly wasn’t is a mystery. Labore functionary mathematics. Or I’m too sloshed to figure it out …

*An increase of 8.66%

Mark Bolton
February 11, 2024 6:58 pm

@@Bruce of Newcastle
Feb 11, 2024 6:37 PM

Back atcha … perversely i find Nina Hagen’s perverse punkery kinda … horse shoe like pursuit gets us back to where we started … well if not she if fun anyway …

I consider it a prayer … to Life and Fun ..

“Or If Not ”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6zGO5dYJNY

Rabz
February 11, 2024 6:58 pm

there were two sets of increases

JC – that might explain it. Otherwise I have to go back and update my NMW tables.

Roger
Roger
February 11, 2024 6:59 pm

Reading it is not a prerequisite for heaven.

No, it’s not, Rosie.

Salvation is by grace through faith, not by works (not even reading the work of reading scripture).

That being said, I can’t imagine not reading the Bible if I was able to read it. The Catholic Church has greatly encouraged lay Bible reading since Vatican II.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
February 11, 2024 6:59 pm

Someone said to me that the stress levels involved with caring for the frail elderly are one of the highest. I believe them and kudos to all the Cats here who have done this before.

calli I’m sure there are cats who have heard of our own Elizabeth Blackburn who was awarded a Nobel Prize in 2009 in Physiology/Medicine for her for the discovery of how chromosomes are protected by telomeres and the enzyme telomerase – are determinants of ageing. At the time of Ms Blackburn’s award I read much about her research and how it involved looking at what caused the shortening of the telomeres. It came as no surprise to me that as part of her her research Ms Blackburn studied the ageing process in carers of people with lifelong ,severe and persistent disabilities as well as carers of people with dementia and people who are frail-aged. Very interesting work by a Tasmanian lass — Sadly, Elizabeth Blackburn is not regarded as role model and trailblazer for young Australian women and girls.

Rabz
February 11, 2024 7:00 pm

Let’s just jack up the minimum wage by 9% while running the printing presses 24/7, Cats – you know it makes nonsense! 😕

Roger
Roger
February 11, 2024 7:01 pm

Jesus of course also preaching in the synagogues.

And getting thrown out of them!

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 11, 2024 7:03 pm

You suspect the bulk of the delivery of the Brisbane Olympics won’t be the responsibility of the Qld Liars. After the pigs ear the Chairman made of the Cth games I wouldn’t be surprised to see the Cth virtually assume responsibility at some point. Which might raise some interesting constitutional questions if anyone cares to ask.

Mark Bolton
February 11, 2024 7:05 pm

As to Sacred music … here is one granny might like .. but mine probably wouldnt have bitches that the were …

Kyrie Eleison

https://youtu.be/mAZC4oe9VM0?list=PLpnpNhAlYc3UN3y5ChzQ9XLoUOLgcosDO

Salvatore, Iron Publican
February 11, 2024 7:07 pm

The Rabz doctrine should be applied to the Fair Work Commission. Immediately after doing that, apply it to the Fair Work Ombudsman.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
February 11, 2024 7:10 pm

Oh no, we are all going to have to get down on our knees and beg Monty of malmo for his forgiveness.

We were wrong, wrong wrong about the cause of the increased violence/no go zones etc in Sweden.

‘People are scared’: Sweden’s freedom of information laws lead to wave of deadly bombings

See it was freedom of information laws all along!

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 11, 2024 7:12 pm

AC/DC movie music.

AC/DC – Shoot To Thrill (Iron Man 2 Version) (2010)

Battleship – AC/DC Thunderstruck (2012)

We used to play Battleship using graph paper in school fifty years ago. Then some nice people made a movie about it, and added a ripper AC/DC soundtrack. Heaven! The former Iron Man track is awesome also.

Rabz
February 11, 2024 7:13 pm

Salvatore, Iron Publican Feb 11, 2024 7:07 PM

Agreed.

labore functionary retirement troughing fests.

Roger
Roger
February 11, 2024 7:19 pm

You suspect the bulk of the delivery of the Brisbane Olympics won’t be the responsibility of the Qld Liars.

You don’t trust the Boy Premier to deliver?

Indolent
Indolent
February 11, 2024 7:21 pm

Dr. John Campbell interview with John O’Looney of Milton Keynes Family Funeral Services

Sure.

He was simply angry. And if you bothered to listen to him you would be too.

Mark Bolton
February 11, 2024 7:22 pm

@Bruce of Newcastle
Feb 11, 2024 7:12 PM

“The former Iron Man track is awesome also.”

Radio Birdman struck me the same way back then ..

https://youtu.be/5RXIlhvGwoY

Mark Bolton
February 11, 2024 7:24 pm

@ Bruce of Newcastle .. still does.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
February 11, 2024 7:24 pm

Before I go and as this thread ends, a small review:

Johanna: 7.03
Stop whining and do something about it!
If the Jewish community really cares and wants to act, what’s stopping them?
Curling up into a ball and demanding sympathy only goes so far. Maybe that’s your culture. It’s not mine, we harden up.
Cassie
You know, it’s early in the morning, a new day, people come here and post comments about what’s going on in this country and the world. But not the resident of the Queanbeyan. No, she wakes up, consumed and obsessed with Lizzie and me, and rushes to post shrill and nasty comments. It’s really sad.
Cassie
“I’m pretty sure I have never ever pretended to be a member of the IDF.”
Johanna
Dishonest, I never said that you did. You are making stuff up to justify your neurotic, unhelpful and attention-seeking responses, take that to your therapist – moo!
While sharing, like your dear friend Lizzie, your feelings here as a sign of what a good person you are is undoubtedly personally satisfying, it is essetially fake.
Johanna
“I wept’ and so on might equally be attributed to Muslim mamas.
Lift your game.
Cassie
You need psychological help Johanna. There’s something really really wrong with you. Perhaps you should go out and get some fresh air. Might help.
There were your words, only half an hour ago…
“and how Cassie pretends to be a member of the IDF”
Lizzie
“If the Jewish community really cares and wants to act, what’s stopping them?
Curling up into a ball and demanding sympathy only goes so far. Maybe that’s your culture.”

Absolutely effing disgraceful.
Calli
An amusing “story” being run by the ABCess fact checkers this morning.
Lizzie: 8.23
It’s not a joke, KD. This site is full of cowards who either joke about or ignore and do not call out someone making commentary that is way beyond the pale.
The site is unpleasantly lop-sided. (reference to upticks/downticks)

The bolded comment I made constitutes what is true anti-Semitism. Jews during the Shoah Holocaust/Genocide were often libelled as not resisting and organising during their rounding up for the gas chambers. Anti-Semites labelled Jewish ‘culture’ as pleading and unworthy and not stoically ‘Aryan’. Johanna’s comments, those two lines in particular, inflect real anti-Semitism. She is perhaps too self-obsessed with her own whip cracking to recognise that.

Israel created the IDF to protect all Jewish people and the homeland of Israel. Jewish people today world-wide feel under threat in ways similar to the 1930’s. Johanna today has doubled down on her self-entitled PR spin and made-up memes. Not a hint of regret for the damage she has caused to Cassie or to the harmony of the site. She has managed to harass a Jewish woman off this site by her selfish doubling down demands, revelling in applause of her ‘toughness’. Well done? I don’t think so.

A decent person would apologise to Cassie immediately.
.

Siltstone
Siltstone
February 11, 2024 7:24 pm

Indolent 16:14
That Neil Oliver clip was one the best I have seen. Precise. Targeted. Thanks for posting.

Dot
Dot
February 11, 2024 7:27 pm

Amazing to see the level of offending women need to engage in before a custodial sentence is given.

https://nypost.com/2023/08/27/south-dakota-woman-admits-to-making-false-rape-report-after-an-extramarital-tryst-in-florida/

2 years of house arrest, an additional six years of probation.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-cumbria-64950862

8.5 years imprisonment, not sure about the non parole period.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 11, 2024 7:28 pm

‘Not normal behaviour’: Joyce to miss party meeting as medication mix emerges as factor in video
Paul Sakkal
By Paul Sakkal
February 11, 2024 — 4.54pm

Listen to this article
4 min

Opposition Leader Peter Dutton will question Barnaby Joyce this week about why the former deputy prime minister was filmed lying on a popular Canberra street swearing on the telephone after a long parliamentary sitting day.

The maverick MP, whose actions were described as “not normal” by his party leader David Littleproud, will not attend a scheduled meeting of Nationals MPs on Monday morning in Canberra at which the incident is expected to be discussed.

Joyce is dealing with a medical issue which has emerged as a new explanation for the strange scene revealed last Friday, two sources with knowledge of the matter said.

Joyce has told several colleagues he was feeling the effects of medication mixing with alcohol when he fell off a planter box and continued his phone call with wife Vikki Campion. Witnesses say Joyce was seen at two functions at Parliament House on Wednesday night in the lead-up to the 11.30pm video.

This masthead is not aware of the precise nature of Joyce’s health situation nor the type of medication.

Asked on Sunday if Joyce should remain on the frontbench, Dutton did not specifically support Joyce’s position.

Dot
Dot
February 11, 2024 7:30 pm

Indolent there is no way you actually read every article or watch every interview you post here or you would be “terminally online”.

JC
JC
February 11, 2024 7:30 pm

Labore functionary mathematics.

lol

Diogenes
Diogenes
February 11, 2024 7:32 pm

there were two sets of increases

+ 12.5% super on the increase.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 11, 2024 7:36 pm

calli

Feb 11, 2024 6:19 PM

I prefer that Greek guy’s 3:4:5 Bruce.

As demonstrated this week, handy for set outs. Apart from the diagonal check, that is. ?

quite so

i couldnt get to the back corner because vegetation

cleared that now and done the diagonals

my rough set out needs a tweak

fences nearby were not built by pythagoras and tend to mislead

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 11, 2024 7:38 pm

Yes, Mark, I like the Birdies and the Kennedys (dead ones). Also the Hunters and the Saints. We overachieve here in Oz.

The Celibate Rifles – Johnny (1989)

Mark Bolton
February 11, 2024 7:38 pm

test

Mark Bolton
February 11, 2024 7:40 pm

@Bruce of Newcastle
Feb 11, 2024 7:38 PM

Johhny was magnificent ! I so loved that song …

JC
JC
February 11, 2024 7:41 pm

Diogenes

I forgot that one.

We were down at the beach today and went out for a coffee. (Okay and a cig, seeing wifey wasn’t with me).

Between the kitchen and front o’house there were 7 people working there, and the frog owner. The place is busy, but the running costs on a Sunday must be enormous.
7 people at say 40 bucks an hour is $280, but round it off to $300. Say, the average coffee is $5.50, that means they have to be selling 54 cooffeees an hour to break even and that’s not including direct costs. Sure, there’s also food being sold, but boy totaling up direct and indirect costs and expenses, there’s not a lot left over. This is a busy joint.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 11, 2024 7:41 pm

Someone said to me that the stress levels involved with caring for the frail elderly are one of the highest. I believe them and kudos to all the Cats here who have done this before.

try being in management or on the board of an aged care home

luigi the unbelievable is putting up legislation to create a criminal liability for deaths in aged care which result from “failings” of governance

failings is not defined

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
February 11, 2024 7:42 pm

Aaaand wordwalls have made a comeback.

Lizzie – in that multitude of quotes, you missed the one where you said another poster was a coward, and you also missed this one:

‘This site is full of cowards’.

I will assert that his august journal of record, for the very most part, consists of people who are most assuredly not cowards.

That is an extremely strong term to throw about, and while the term may mean something to people waaaay up looking at pebblecrete and harbour views in Australia’s richest suburb, it means something very different to the rest of us.

The last commenter to continually use that term was the high-falutin’ Consty-waving demonstrably gullible dEatH CamP believing truck driver who embarrassed himself so thoroughly he went elsewhere, after notably saying ‘Well, what else what I supposed to think?’ after yet another of his prophecies turned to shit.

If you could name one commenter here at present – just one, except for Bolton – who is not at least nominally pro-Israel and IDF it would be appreciated, because I can’t think of one.

I take no position on the nevertheless extremely entertaining, decades-long old woman stoush, because it’s funny. However, to excoriate all posters here – ‘this site is full of cowards‘ and then threaten to flounce yet again because they won’t immediately accept the invitation to a pile-on is silly.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 11, 2024 7:44 pm

Indolent

Feb 11, 2024 7:21 PM

Dr. John Campbell interview with John O’Looney of Milton Keynes Family Funeral Services

Sure.

He was simply angry. And if you bothered to listen to him you would be too.

i did listen

not angry

i laffed a bit actually

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 11, 2024 7:46 pm

You don’t trust the Boy Premier to deliver?

I have a feeling the question will be taken out of his hands, one way or another.

Mark Bolton
February 11, 2024 7:46 pm

@ Bruce of Newcastle
Feb 11, 2024 7:38 PM

Did you ever copp Dave Warner ? “from the suburbs? Perhaps you mightnt have been in Western Australia… but they were good ..
Back when we were all young and pretty .. it made a great night out …

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggZfyKH1RFk

132andBush
132andBush
February 11, 2024 7:49 pm

As for vaccines, I’ve had five, time them for my long trips to Europe.
Didn’t want to be as sick as JC was while travelling.
Never had covid.

The vaccines were never about stopping you getting the virus.
So, if you’ve never had covid and you’re still getting jabbed…?!

Rabz
February 11, 2024 7:50 pm

The Celibate Rifles – Johnny (1989)

Electravision Mantra

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
February 11, 2024 7:51 pm

try being in management or on the board of an aged care home

i guess people who can no longer cope will need to drop off elderly and demented family members to Albo’s office or the electoral office of Tony Burqua, or their local federal member, it’s the only thing that seems to work and then the family members can put the wood on the bastards to make sure their vulnerable member is properly cared for by the bastards, hold them to their own standards. Or maybe Greg the Pecksniffian Combet would have a spare room or two.

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 11, 2024 7:51 pm

Knuckle Dragger at 7:42 – the hen house was rather unruly yesterday.

calli
calli
February 11, 2024 7:51 pm

Lizzie, why are you still having a go at me? Your animus is very deep seated.

I had the hide to not respond to Joh like a screaming banshee, but instead tried to tease out a practical response.

You have completely ignored my own fears and worries about what is happening to Jews in Sydney. Do you have Jewish grandchildren for whom you fear? No you don’t.

So stop pretending to be some sort of martyr for the cause. You are not.

You said that I was a coward. Do you really want an expression of my “bravery”? You just got a tiny serve right there.

Mark Bolton
February 11, 2024 7:56 pm

I met a man in jail who had witnessed an atom bomb… ~test~

Mark Bolton
February 11, 2024 7:57 pm

and you wont like this song either ~test~

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 11, 2024 7:58 pm

Opposition Leader Peter Dutton will question Barnaby Joyce this week about why the former deputy prime minister was filmed lying on a popular Canberra street swearing on the telephone after a long parliamentary sitting day.

who does he think he is?

andrew okeefe?

i heard littleproud on radio today
expressing deep concern

which was him twisting the knife actually

i think bananaby is about to hear that famous phrase so popular here

piss off barnaby

sorry that last bit should be in caps but there is a piece of expensive spanish jamon stuck under my shift key

JC
JC
February 11, 2024 7:59 pm

Bolton.

Don’t get upset like last time. I’m just curious, that’s all as I’ve never spoken to anyone who’s been in the clink. Why did you get a stretch.

Don’t fly off, as it’s not having a go at you.

feelthebern
feelthebern
February 11, 2024 7:59 pm

Jesus of course also preaching in the synagogues.

Jesus was Jewish?
Now I’ve heard everything.

Rabz
February 11, 2024 8:01 pm

“Well, what else what I supposed to thunk?”, after yet another of his prophecies turned to shit …

Yes, but he does bless CL’s site with many, many woidwoills, as is his want.

No mention of injun truck drivers and their rural roadhouse oblutionary habits, unfortunately.

Always guaranteed to spice things up (PTP).

feelthebern
feelthebern
February 11, 2024 8:02 pm

Bugger, that should have had a h/t Peter Griffin.

Mark Bolton
February 11, 2024 8:04 pm

~test~

Muddy
Muddy
February 11, 2024 8:05 pm

I used to think that people who believed things like the following (from Powerline’s WiP) were whack-jobs.

They aren’t going to declare martial law and round everyone up in one week. They’re simply making a list of who to disarm, arrest and send to prison.

There’s never going to be some big trigger event, something that kicks off another civil war or revolution …

The truth is the ‘sh!t [my edit] will hit the fan one household at a time. You’ll certainly know when it hits the fan for you. But you’ll be alone [my bolding].

It appears that I’m now a whack-job too.
I hope they have an impressive logo.
Or at least name badges.
Is there a collective noun for whack-jobs?

(I don’t believe the covidiocy was planned, but it was an amazing opportunity for a trial run. It’s the last sentence of the above quote that I find the most chilling: Identify and alienate; create pariahs within a community, and enable the community to be the hunters).

calli
calli
February 11, 2024 8:05 pm

And furthermore, I’ve spent a lot of today in between visiting my mother and other household duties, decrying the horrible use of downticks against you and the upset it has caused.

The thing has been gamed and manipulated by people who wanted you to do exactly what you did – leave the blog, then come back for a bit more of the same. You’ve been played like a Strad, and it wasn’t by me.

Mark Bolton
February 11, 2024 8:07 pm

JC
Feb 11, 2024 7:59 PM

Bolton.

“Don’t get upset like last time.”

I didnt get upset last time .. i was just exploring where a worthwhiile and honest conversation can be found on the Cat … not here and not now apparently … it doesnt upset me.

Rabz
February 11, 2024 8:07 pm

Yeah, yeah, OK, Cats – that was a bit of a cheap shot.

St Ruth, for all his faults, of which there are many*, could never be accused of using one word when spraying around 100 was his preferred option.

*in my ‘umble o’pinion …

JC
JC
February 11, 2024 8:08 pm

Okay, so why the stretch?

Mark Bolton
February 11, 2024 8:10 pm

an if I post something objectionable I get a message informing me it requires “moderation” but now post are just failing to go into either basket.

Cassie of Sydney
February 11, 2024 8:11 pm

Lizzie has a Jewish friend who she fears for. And that Jewish person is me.

But that’s okay, I was told here that we Jews just have to harden up.

I don’t know whether anyone else here saw Outsiders this morning but Daniel Lewkovitz (who is an expert in security) has accumulated lots of footage of what ensued at Town Hall (a sight I personally witnessed) and at the Opera House on Monday night 9 October 2023.

It’s very unpleasant footage, and it is much more rancid than we ever imagined. The Jewish community should be worried, very worried.

Roger
Roger
February 11, 2024 8:11 pm

I have a feeling the question will be taken out of his hands, one way or another.

$7bn in C’wth funding already granted.

They’ll have it from his cold, dead hands.

Or Crisafulli’s.

Same difference, really.

And there are only so many construction firms in SE QLD big enough to take on the work, all of them beholden to the unions.

Cassie of Sydney
February 11, 2024 8:12 pm

Jesus was Jewish?

No, apparently he was Palestinian.

Cassie of Sydney
February 11, 2024 8:13 pm

Did Jesus preach in a mosque?

Mark Bolton
February 11, 2024 8:13 pm

And I trully dont care Chappies you’re blog .. your roof your rules. I have always complied .. I have never hit out with foul language at any one .. I have always stuck to the subject under consideration ..

Rabz
February 11, 2024 8:17 pm

As for good ol’ Faulty, well, he is at no risk of losing his crown as the grandpapee peddler of the most preposterous Ozzie Conspiracy Hypotheses of all time.

We are talking about a carbon based lifeform, (allegedly) confined to a wheelchair, who according to himself, could not get a good night’s sleep unless he’d imbibed at least three litres of chateau cardboard (of the red persuasion) every night.

However his courageous meeja jihad against the concrete box around the corner from where I was employed for six years deserves to remain the stuff of legend. 🙂

John H.
John H.
February 11, 2024 8:18 pm
Rabz
February 11, 2024 8:20 pm

Oh, FFS, have I inadvertently blundered into yet another contretemps?

Cassie of Sydney
February 11, 2024 8:20 pm

I never thought caring about Jews and out of control Jew hatred was a competition.

Mark Bolton
February 11, 2024 8:26 pm

JC
Feb 11, 2024 7:59 PM

Bolton.

“Don’t get upset like last time. I’m just curious, .. ”

well rather than rely on my say so how about you get banged up your good self? It might not be so difficult as you might suppose. At least that way you can shout out loud and be confident that it is your voice and your voice alone .. So much more Authoritative.

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 11, 2024 8:26 pm

Channel Stokes News gave the Beetrooter’s antics a very soft soap approach yesterday. Even Albo would have been impressed.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 11, 2024 8:26 pm

Landing a C130 transport plane on a carrier

No hooks, no catapult.

There’s one Herk pilot who should never have to pay for his own drink, ever again!

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 11, 2024 8:26 pm

But that’s okay, I was told here that we Jews just have to harden up.

i think that is what people were trying to tease out of johanna

what form would this hardening up take

and how would a stoic hardening up be any more productive than “curling up in a ball”

johannas accusation boils down to one of “over emoting”

i dont think cassie denies being emotional
youd have to be made of stone to not have an emotional reaction to that savagery … and ongoing cruelty of hostage keeping

i think the dutch pride themselves on their stoicism
perhaps it is a good trait at times
but like most personality traits it has a flip side … and that is a lack of empathy

calli
calli
February 11, 2024 8:27 pm

And Cassie, your brand new “pal” Chilli over at C.L.’s had this to say about you…

Nobody here is without some sin, least of all you.
……………………………………….

“A look in the mirror may do you some good, Cassie!

All I did was expose bullshit. Live with it!”

JMH, Cassie is an arse licker. She needs attention daily, hence why she loves being updicked daily. It’s her kink. Such a slut!

Notice how she hasn’t called out sancho poofta panzy aka leigh lowe or knuckle f*cker, who piled on Lizzie for years. Interesting. She craves bloke’s attention.

She talks about women being bitches. She is the biggest bitch out there. She has no filter. No husband. No child. She has major mental health issues.

What is worse than a left wing Karen? A right wing one, who bangs on and on about shit she has no lived experience of.

If I’m such a coward I may as well be a “snitch” also. In for a penny, in for a pound. And that isn’t the worst she’s said about you by a country mile. She’s said worse about me.

This is your co-religionist. She’ll see you there on the 18th you know.

No doubt she’ll disappear the rest of the hate thread. Because she’s so feisty and brave.

I had to repost this because I missed the expletives.

Roger
Roger
February 11, 2024 8:27 pm

But that’s okay, I was told here that we Jews just have to harden up.

I certainly wouldn’t put it like that, as if the Jewish community should tolerate what’s happened and the people responsible. That is dangerous. Along that line I’ve raise Popper’s paradox of tolerance here several times.

But the Jewish community and those who support them, including the Christians who’ve been organising rallies to express such support, need to fight back with any means available.

I believe the NSW government, and by extension the Australian government, which is responsible for our compliance with international treaties and covenants, is in clear contravention of the Genocide Convention (which quite logically begins with outlawing calls for genocide, not just the act itself).

I’m well out of it, I’m afraid, but there are surely smarter people than me who can be availed upon to pursue this avenue by whatever means are available and, by doing so, embarrass the powers who are responsible for protecting citizens into taking action.

Boambee John
Boambee John
February 11, 2024 8:31 pm

Cassie

I don’t watch Outsiders, but from what you describe, there seems to be clear evidence of, at the absolute least, that smarmy term “hate speech”, and probably sufficient to claim incitement. Will Daniel L be referring the video material to the NSW rozzers, and/or the AFP?

Or might it be better to put in onto the web, with plenty of media releases to prevent its being sent down the memory hole?

Time to get on the front foot.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 11, 2024 8:32 pm

However his courageous meeja jihad against the concrete box around the corner from where I was employed for six years deserves to remain the stuff of legend. ?

ah yes

the deakin telephone exchange

which couldnt possibly be a telephone exchange

what are all those cables for

they look suspiciously like the cables the cia use

being pointman for lyndon ladouche in austraya was never going to end well

calli
calli
February 11, 2024 8:32 pm

Okay Cassie, keep sniping at me.

The comments stand or fall on their own merit.

Cassie of Sydney
February 11, 2024 8:34 pm

Who is “Chilli”?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 11, 2024 8:35 pm

calli at 8:27

wtf

that got through at cl’s blog?

is he on holidays

calli
calli
February 11, 2024 8:36 pm

You’re at C.L.’s blog. You work it out.

Rabz
February 11, 2024 8:36 pm

For the many, many millions of supporters of those Mighty Reds across the planet … 🙂

Cassie of Sydney
February 11, 2024 8:37 pm

I think your copying and pasting stands on its own merit.

I’ve been to C.L.’s blog (I go everyday) and there’s no JMH there.

I don’t lick arses either.

calli
calli
February 11, 2024 8:38 pm

No, Sancho. The Furniture Store where they never visit here except when they do.

The men over there all have a LOL at her disgusting commentary and character assassinations. Bloody hypocrites.

Cassie of Sydney
February 11, 2024 8:40 pm

Are you talking about the freedomfurniture site?

I don’t read it.

feelthebern
feelthebern
February 11, 2024 8:40 pm

chilli needs to put down the glass bbq.

calli
calli
February 11, 2024 8:41 pm

Here ya go Cass.

Be careful. It will hurt you. But you are tough.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
February 11, 2024 8:41 pm

Lizzie,
Just to be very clear there was zero applause. Unless of course you use the obviously gamed ticking in those few very early hours as your evidence.

“She has managed to harass a Jewish woman off this site by her selfish doubling down demands, revelling in applause of her ‘toughness’. Well done? I don’t think so”.

I think KD’s point here is very relevant :

“If you could name one commenter here at present – just one, except for Bolton – who is not at least nominally pro-Israel and IDF it would be appreciated, because I can’t think of one”.

Cassie has had and will continue to have support from pretty much everybody on this blog. Just because Johanna made a few very nasty comments towards Cassie does not lessen the support Cassie has here.

Both you and Cassie should bear that in mind when commenting upon Johannas behaviour.

Cassie of Sydney
February 11, 2024 8:42 pm

The freedomfurniture site is not C.L.’s site.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 11, 2024 8:46 pm

Protein! Yum!

Rabz
February 11, 2024 8:46 pm

You’ve been played like a Strad

As opposed to a Strat, Cats! 🙂

calli
calli
February 11, 2024 8:46 pm

Okay Cassie. Be deliberately obtuse because you are determined not to “like” me. Give her time to delete it all.

What you don’t see won’t hurt you. Or enlighten you.

Mark Bolton
February 11, 2024 8:49 pm

So ? One way or another there is a source of opinion called the Greyzone .. as I made apparent earlier. they might be right ..they might be wrong. If they are wrong surely you folks could counter such contentions as they make ,easily ..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lr2xWZ0g2iY

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 11, 2024 8:50 pm

feelthebern
Feb 11, 2024 8:40 PM

chilli needs to put down the glass bbq.

i havent got the memo

is chilli the bolton the beautiful?

John H.
John H.
February 11, 2024 8:51 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Feb 11, 2024 8:26 PM
Landing a C130 transport plane on a carrier

No hooks, no catapult.

There’s one Herk pilot who should never have to pay for his own drink, ever again!

Admiral, former Phantom pilot ZK2A, never flown a C130 prior to prepping for that exercise. The idea now being explored is to use modern transport aircraft loaded with crates of long range cruise missiles released to create a saturation missile attack(Rapid Dragon). That is addressed latter in the video. This strategy confers a huge advantage because most fighters can carry 2-4 cruise missiles and that makes them slow, fuel hungry, and range limited.

H B Bear
H B Bear
February 11, 2024 8:53 pm

One can only assume a tired and emotional politician on the streets of Canberra (albeit literally) on a Thursday night is not a particularly newsworthy event.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 11, 2024 8:54 pm

calli
Feb 11, 2024 8:38 PM

No, Sancho. The Furniture Store where they never visit here except when they do.

oh right

just reading back

as far as i could tell that has just degenerated into a whole lot of cut and paste of letters to the editor from hillbilly queensssland newspapers

calli
calli
February 11, 2024 8:54 pm

Thanks Sancho. I’m glad you don’t have my back.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
February 11, 2024 9:00 pm

Documents Reveal: Channel 10 lawyers approved Wilkinson’s Logies speech
New affidavits are understood to show that Ten’s senior management asked Lisa Wilkinson to give the Logies speech and that Ten’s lawyers and senior executives approved it.

Exclusive
By janet albrechtsen
Columnist
and stephen rice
NSW Editor
8:35PM February 11, 2024

A cache of explosive documents is set to be made public this week exposing the legal advice Lisa Wilkinson received from Network Ten lawyers before her disastrous Logies speech – and revealing the intense personal animosity between several of the high-profile lawyers in the case.

New affidavits filed with the Federal Court are understood to show that Ten’s senior management asked Wilkinson to give the Logies speech and that Ten’s lawyers and senior executives approved it. The legal advice was never revealed during the defamation trial, despite the clear preference of Justice Michael Lee to see it.

One Sydney lawyer described the upcoming hearing on Tuesday as “a shit show coming to town” with previously unseen affidavits believed to show lawyers taking pot-shots at each other in “the legal fraternity’s version of Nemesis” – a reference to the ABC documentary revealing the behind-the-scenes turmoil and back-biting in the Abbott, Turnbull and Morrison governments.

When Bruce Lehrmann sued Wilkinson and Ten over the allegation he raped Brittany Higgins, the TV presenter demanded her own legal presentation, believing the network had “thrown her under the bus” in the aftermath of the Logies speech by failing to acknowledge she had acted on their legal advice.

Wilkinson has since launched her own cross claim against Ten, with the network still refusing to pay her legal fees, now amounting to at least $700,000.

Hearings in the defamation case finished in December, with Federal Court judge Michael Lee reserving his judgement and expected to spend some months considering his verdict.

But in a highly unusual move, Justice Lee has ordered all lawyers in the defamation case to attend a hearing on Tuesday previously called to deal with the costs dispute between Wilkinson and Ten, indicating he believes material contained in the cross claim affidavits has a bearing on his decision in the central case.

Justice Lee is understood to have told lawyers in an email that he might be placed in the position of having to decide the defamation case while putting aside the evidence in Wilkinson’s cross claim and that this could put the administration of justice into disrepute.

Justice Lee was emphatic throughout the defamation case that the principles of open justice be adhered to, with all evidence heard in open court and made available on the court’s YouTube channel for members of the public to watch.

It is understood Wilkinson has filed two new affidavits in the case, with a third, on her behalf, from her solicitor, Anthony Jefferies, while Ten has filed affidavits of its own. On Tuesday, Wilkinson is expected to give evidence first.

One of the affidavits is understood to contain the legal advice Ten provided to Wilkinson before she gave the highly prejudicial Logies speech which delayed Lehrmann’s rape trial by several months.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
February 11, 2024 9:01 pm

Only a little bit of blood. They’re herbivores so their teeth aren’t sharp. I avoid their claws though: razors.

Rabz
February 11, 2024 9:01 pm

LOL – CL has wielded the BanHammer.

Salvatore, Iron Publican
February 11, 2024 9:03 pm

H B Bear Feb 11, 2024 8:53 PM
One can only assume a tired and emotional politician on the streets of Canberra (albeit literally) on a Thursday night is not a particularly newsworthy event.

As Sherlock Holmes used to say, the clue often is the dog that does not bark.

Thank you HB. The rest of us would have taken ages for that penny to drop, if ever.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
February 11, 2024 9:03 pm

calli
Feb 11, 2024 8:54 PM

Thanks Sancho. I’m glad you don’t have my back.

err, wut

have i bin remiss in not seeing something or doing something

it is always possible

Gabor
Gabor
February 11, 2024 9:04 pm

calli
Feb 11, 2024 8:46 PM

Actually Chilli does comment on CL’s site.
Can’t remember what thread it was, but.

Too much emotion is not a good thing.

Rabz
February 11, 2024 9:04 pm

a tired and emotional politician on the streets of Canberra (albeit literally) on a Thursday night is not a particularly newsworthy event

Unless Bear, they’re an alleged conservative. Then funnily enough, it still doesn’t seem to be all that newswoithy.

Rabz
February 11, 2024 9:08 pm

Some mighty moments of Beetrooting …

Brought to you by the Blood Pressure Foundation of Venezdrayliastan …

Indolent
Indolent
February 11, 2024 9:09 pm

Indolent there is no way you actually read every article or watch every interview you post here or you would be “terminally online”.

You’re quite right. Some I read and listen to carefully, others I skim and post because I think they might be of interest. Like many others here, I suspect.

calli
calli
February 11, 2024 9:09 pm

Never mind guys. I knew I was on a hiding to nothing.

Gabor
Gabor
February 11, 2024 9:10 pm

PS,
Posting my last comment took 1 minute 13 seconds, so much for ticking slowing the site down, or lack of it speeds it up.
Speaking of which, after reading all the explanations how it can be done, I tend to think that there are a few absolute morons if it is real.

Who, in his or her right mind would do that?
I have seen many ups and many downs, to my recollection most were content based.
Take no notice of the stoushers, that is an outlier.

dopey
dopey
February 11, 2024 9:12 pm

That Opera House footage. Bloody hell, what Sydney has become. Proud of that Tony Burke?

Dot
Dot
February 11, 2024 9:12 pm

Justice Lee is understood to have told lawyers in an email that he might be placed in the position of having to decide the defamation case while putting aside the evidence in Wilkinson’s cross claim and that this could put the administration of justice into disrepute.

Justice Lee was emphatic throughout the defamation case that the principles of open justice be adhered to, with all evidence heard in open court and made available on the court’s YouTube channel for members of the public to watch.

It is understood Wilkinson has filed two new affidavits in the case, with a third, on her behalf, from her solicitor, Anthony Jefferies, while Ten has filed affidavits of its own. On Tuesday, Wilkinson is expected to give evidence first.

One of the affidavits is understood to contain the legal advice Ten provided to Wilkinson before she gave the highly prejudicial Logies speech which delayed Lehrmann’s rape trial by several months.

This just keeps getting better and better. If only she flips out and spills her guts about a fat weirdo in France and his burgeoning girlfriend and any other conspirators to falsifying evidence. No, I don’t have any compunction in saying this; I’ve read the Moller Memo.

Alamak!
Alamak!
February 11, 2024 9:13 pm

Can we move on without the drama of who upticked/downticked who some days/weeks ago? Or who, supposedly, drove who from the site with fake ‘ticks’?

Its all getting beyond tedious and nobody has a right to post here with just the content and reactions that they allow. if thats what people need for their own mental stability then run your own personal blog and allow only those who make you feel nice.

On the site – looking forward to DB’s experimentations and threaded content might be an improvement compared to the current mixup unithread.

Cassie of Sydney
February 11, 2024 9:13 pm

calli, I had a look. Yes, it’s unpleasant and nasty, really nasty, directed mainly at you and me. I suppose we should be flattered.

My suggestion is to not read it. It’s odd that someone is so fixated. I feel for her or him, although I suspect it’s a ‘her’.

Did you say that JMH comments there? Odd considering JMH is so obsessed about the tone of this blog and likes to target JC. If that is the case then JMH is a hypocrite.

Don’t read it, calli. I don’t and won’t. I suspect it would be healthier to walk naked through a Sydney sewer.

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