Open Thread – Mon 4 March 2024


The Bridge at Bougival, Claude Monet, 1869

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Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
March 5, 2024 8:42 am

It would appear the Extinction Rebellion pack have work out a better way to piss off thousands of people than gluing themselves to CBD roads and footpaths.

The picture wireless informs me that this morning, three of them drove a hired rigid truck onto the West Gate Bridge and parked it across three inbound lanes before climbing onto the roof and putting banners up on the sides of said truck.

It should be easily fixed by having the flogs dragged off the truck, and the truck itself dragged off by a heavy tow. Yet another test of will for VicJack Inc.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
March 5, 2024 8:42 am

*worked out a better way*

flyingduk
flyingduk
March 5, 2024 8:50 am

Another day, another BTC ATH: popped over 100k AUD overnight.

Worth a look for people who understand that control of your own money is *critical* to freedom.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
March 5, 2024 8:54 am

4 day trial Dot.
Very serious offence.
Needing the full majesty of the law to prosecute.

Im guessing the number of these instigated because someone was called “gammon” or “white dog c*nt” is zero.

flyingduk
flyingduk
March 5, 2024 8:56 am

Of course, it was always absurd that the anti-Trump brigade should pretend to save democracy by keeping Trump off the ballot because otherwise the people might vote for him.

aka ‘we had to destroy the village to save it…”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Arnett

Eyrie
Eyrie
March 5, 2024 8:57 am

She did so in DC, which I gather stands for Democrat Central.

District of Corruption

Indolent
Indolent
March 5, 2024 8:59 am

And, naturally, they are now attacking the Supreme Court justices.

Supreme Court rules states can’t kick Trump off the ballot

Indolent
Indolent
March 5, 2024 9:01 am
Zafiro
Zafiro
March 5, 2024 9:22 am

Drinking black coffee and driving a BMW = Psycho

Someone here springs to mind LOL

Dot
Dot
March 5, 2024 9:22 am

Something going on in the US property market.

Maybe this was listed too high at 990k USD over a year ago.

Mafia chic. I like it.

I can imagine Sharon Stone in a gold jumpsuit doing coke in front of the kids you had together whilst you’re on your own talk show.

Take a look at this home I found on Realtor.com
468 N Luce Rd, Alma
$795,000 · 6beds · 4.5+baths

https://apps.realtor.com/mUAZ/v0y31s4b

shatterzzz
March 5, 2024 9:23 am

Latest hobby now I can’t swim, ride for awhile .. micro “Lego” .. not the real deal but about 20 times cheaper (ya can’t keep a”houso” down!) .. pretty good for 76 given that some of the parts are that small you need tweezers, steady hands, decent eyes and incredible amounts of patience .. LOL!
https://ibb.co/hB4TXRT

Dot
Dot
March 5, 2024 9:24 am

Another day, another BTC ATH: popped over 100k AUD overnight.

Worth a look for people who understand that control of your own money is *critical* to freedom.

You can buy crypto, get a wallet; or you can cope and seethe that fiat money will die out one day.

Roger
Roger
March 5, 2024 9:25 am

9-0

Winning bigly.

Digger
Digger
March 5, 2024 9:25 am

My point was that they favoured numbers over armament. Ships with less than adequate armament are less than fully useful and less than safe for the crew.

But ‘fitted for but not with’ does not mean that. I served on HMAS Stalwart several times during its commission and it was ‘fitted for but not with’ two Sea Cat systems. The ship had the two plinths for the mounts just below the bridge and two magazines. All that was needed to mount the missile system was to bolt on the quad mounts. The benefit of that was obvious. We had a very worthwhile ship, we was not at war where that ship would be deployed, we didn’t need additional armament on the ship for its entire life, we did not need to carry additional crew or armaments but if we did need it we didn’t need to change the ship or take it out of service for an extended time.

It takes a long time to build a ship, it doesn’t take long to fit a weapons system that the ship was built to carry if all the mounting and operational prerequisites are incorporated in the design and build. That adds up to fewer sailors in the crew, lower weight, lower running costs, unnecessary expensive armaments and munitions when not needed. The availability of the ship is the most important component, the upgrading and manning can be done when required.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
March 5, 2024 9:27 am

Whats a reputable crypto wallet?
Got burned for a couple a few years back.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
March 5, 2024 9:31 am

Check out the Kia Ute ad at Michael Smith News. 20 Sporting stars and a really good ad.

Top Ender
Top Ender
March 5, 2024 9:32 am

Hey Rosie, Mrs TE and I are visiting Malta in mid-year, so we’re reading your posts with interest…

Roger
Roger
March 5, 2024 9:36 am

Even soft porn actresses have standards:

”Sopranos’ star Drea de Matteo calls Hollywood a ‘cesspool’ after OnlyFans success’

– Daily Mail

The real story is that she was blacklisted in Hollywood after refusing covid vaccination.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 5, 2024 9:37 am

Rainbow progressives whitewash Hamas’s evil homophobia

By mike kelly
and anthony bergin
Contributor
5:00AM March 5, 2024
55 Comments

There’s obvious public concern over the suffering we’ve seen in Israel and Gaza emerging from the current conflict. Some community groups have made statements of support for a perceived side they regard as being more worthy.

We saw one disturbing example of this last weekend. Eight people have been charged with using violence to cause fear in a group when they gatecrashed the Sydney Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras parade. The pro-Palestinian protesters let off flares just in front of the NSW Premier Chris Minns and disrupted the proceedings.

Jumping over the barrier, the masked protesters carried a banner that read “Queer solidarity with Palestinian resistance” and lit red and green flares.

“As a queer person I feel that it’s our responsibility to express support and solidarity here at Mardi Gras with Palestinians resisting the settler-colonial Zionist entity and its genocidal violence,” a Queers in Solidarity with Palestinian Resistance member said. “The Labor Party do not deserve to be celebrated here; they deserve to be held accountable for their active support of the Zionist state.”

The position taken by such Pride in Protest groups is incomprehensible. Throughout the Middle East and North Africa homosexuality is outlawed, directly or through offences described vaguely as debauchery or indecency.

Penalties range from imprisonment to execution. Executions in Iran usually involve hanging people from cranes in a public square.

Beyond this official level is a brutal universe of persecution and vigilante violence. This extrajudicial violence has been particularly inspired by Islamist extremism. Islamic State celebrated its execution of homosexuals by throwing them from rooftops to amplify suffering. It saved bullets.

This technique has been preferred by Hamas in Gaza, but it also has resorted to beheadings and shootings.

By contrast, at any given time, there are around 2000 gay Palestinians sheltering, primarily, in Tel Aviv and Netanya. Israel runs an asylum-seeker program so these persecuted people can be placed in safe countries.

One of these individuals was a 25-year-old man, Ahmad Abu Murkhiyeh. He was due to be placed in Canada. But he decided to return briefly to visit his family in Hebron to say goodbye.

Instead he was abducted and beheaded in October 2022. The gruesome ritual was videoed and posted online. Hamas even shot dead one of its own al-Qassam Brigade commanders, Mahmoud Ishtiwi, in Gaza in 2016 on suspicion of him being homosexual.

Throughout the more fundamentalist Islamic world and among Islamist extremist groups, homosexuality is considered unnatural to their people. If it occurs it’s because of the intrusion of perverted Western ideology.

The Hamas covenant spells out the group’s abhorrence of such Western influence and its determination to eradicate it across the caliphate it seeks to establish across the Middle East.

Israel, on the other hand, has the most progressive attitude towards LGBTIQA+ communities in the Middle East.

They’re protected by anti-discrimination laws. They have adoption and same-sex inheritance rights. Israel recognises same-sex marriages. It has allowed gay people to serve in the military since 1993. There’s a large annual gay pride march in Tel Aviv, drawing about 300,00 people. It’s one of the largest in the world. You won’t see this anywhere else across the region.

In 2020 the Knesset debated a bill to outlaw gay conversion therapy. The bill received majority support, although the Islamic State Movement component of the United Arab List (before it withdrew in 2021), together with some Jewish conservatives, voted against it. The Israeli Health Ministry has banned the practice, making it the first country in the Middle East to do so. Gay conversion therapy hasn’t been banned nationwide in Australia.

The Knesset now has its first openly gay Speaker, Amir Ohana. Last month Sheila Weinberg, a transgender person and activist, was elected to the Kiryat Tivon council, southeast of Haifa.

If you value LGBTIQA+ rights and safety, including that of gay Palestinians, then you’d better fervently hope for the survival of Israel and oppose Hamas with all your strength.

“Queers in Solidarity with Palestinian Resistance” Sounds like something out of Monty Python…

Top Ender
Top Ender
March 5, 2024 9:37 am

Meanwhile in the Territory:

Shadow Health Minister Bill Yan says a lack of data about “Code Blacks” in Northern Territory hospitals is a sign of “incompetent management”, after the emergency code was triggered in Alice Springs over the weekend.

Code Blacks are generally used to warn hospital staff of an emergency involving a personal threat, such as a violent person that is a threat to workers or other patients.

Alice Springs Hospital went into a Code Black on Saturday during an incident that allegedly involved workers barricading themselves inside the building.

Mr Yan alleged a person with a weapon attempted to enter the hospital, causing damage to the front doors, while staff waited 40 minutes for police to arrive.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 5, 2024 9:42 am

Editorial
Trial misconduct finding against Drumgold stands

12:00AM March 5, 2024

In the maelstrom of legal action, hearings, mediations and findings still unfolding in the wake of Brittany Higgins’s claim she was raped five years ago in the Parliament House office of then Liberal defence industry minister Linda Reynolds, a great many matters are contested. But among facts beyond dispute is this: then ACT director of public prosecutions Shane Drumgold committed gross misconduct while conducting the rape trial of Bruce Lehrmann, disgracefully breaching his responsibility to ensure the fair administration of justice and in the process betraying the public and his own staff. These were matters ventilated at a special inquiry by esteemed jurist Walter Sofronoff KC that had been instituted by the ACT government at the behest of Mr Drumgold.

On Monday the former DPP won a small technical victory of sorts when ACT Supreme Court Acting Justice Stephen Kaye found that Mr Sofronoff’s conduct during his inquiry into Mr Drumgold’s prosecution of Mr Lehrmann gave rise to “a reasonable apprehension of bias”. Communications between Mr Sofronoff and The Australian’s Janet Albrechtsen, who covered the proceedings, were “such that a fair-minded lay observer might reasonably” believe Mr Sofronoff “might have been influenced by the views held and publicly expressed by Ms Albrechtsen” concerning Mr Drumgold’s conduct, Justice Kaye said. The legal bar for apprehended bias is very low. Lawyers call it the “double might” test.

The notion that any actual bias existed here is absurd. One of Australia’s most formidable legal minds, Mr Sofronoff has been a practising barrister for 39 years, was solicitor-general of Queensland for nine years and president of the Queensland Court of Appeal for five years, has a distinguished record of heading public inquiries and would not be influenced by a journalist doing her job, asking probing questions.

The most consequential finding by Justice Kaye was to uphold almost all of the findings in Mr Sofronoff’s report about Mr Drumgold’s serious misconduct. Those findings included that Mr Drumgold, who was entrusted to take carriage of justice in the ACT, betrayed the trust of his junior staff, directing a junior lawyer to make a misleading affidavit. He also lied to ACT Chief Justice Lucy McCallum and failed in his duty to advise TV presenter Lisa Wilkinson against giving a Logies speech that would consequently delay Mr Lehrmann’s trial. Justice Kaye also upheld Mr Sofronoff’s findings that Mr Drumgold “deliberately advanced a false claim of legal professional privilege” and “tried to use dishonest means to prevent a person he was prosecuting from lawfully obtaining material”. The latter was particularly egregious. Mr Sofronoff found Mr Drumgold was guilty of a “serious breach of duty” by failing to comply with the “golden rule” of disclosure that is at the heart of a fair trial. In the case of the Lehrmann trial, the documents that should have been disclosed to the defence related to the police investigation of Ms Higgins’s claim.

As reported on Monday, the ACT government has apologised to Senator Reynolds and paid her $90,000 in damages and legal costs over accusations by Mr Drumgold during Mr Lehrmann’s case that the senator had engaged in “disturbing conduct”, including political interference in the police investigation. In a statement, the ACT’s Justice and Community Safety Directorate director-general said the ACT government “unreservedly retracts those allegations … (and) sincerely apologises for the damage, distress and embarrassment it has caused to Senator Reynolds”.

Mr Drumgold does not deserve his job back or compensation.

Ms Higgins, who was given a mysterious $2.4m taxpayer handout from Labor, with no reasons given, is back from her “new life” in France with partner David Sharaz for mediation with Senator Reynolds in Perth to try to avert a possible six-week defamation trial in July. No fewer than a dozen lawyers will attend the mediation. The legal picnic continues.

Roger
Roger
March 5, 2024 9:44 am

Record low turnout for the elections in Iran on Friday.

59% of those eligible to vote stayed home instead.

The elections were never really about the final results, but about how many people would actually bother to vote. Turnout matters to the mullahs because the election process exists to give the regime the veneer of democratic legitimacy.

– Jawad Iqbal, The Spectator

Can a theocracy survive without the consent of the governed?

Black Ball
Black Ball
March 5, 2024 9:45 am

Maybe Ms Faruqi can give up some of her properties. Courier Mail:

A Greens-led Brisbane City Council would cut road projects and increase infrastructure charges to redevelop Eagle Farm Racecourse into affordable housing and public green space.

With early voting opening on Monday in the local government elections, Greens lord mayoral candidate Jonathan Sriranganathan will announce on Tuesday his intentions to compulsorily acquire the heritage-listed Brisbane Racing Club site in Ascot.

He believes about $40m in council funds would be sufficient, and then a Greens-led council would look to share the housing construction costs with the state government.

The 4000 medium-density dwellings would cover a fifth of the 49ha site and be built in buildings no higher than five storeys, which would also have commercial units underneath.

Half of the homes would be strictly available to those on the state government’s social housing waiting list and rented for 25 per cent of regular household income.

The other half would be affordable housing available to any Brisbane resident, and rented out at 30 per cent below-market rent.

The rest of the site will be allocated to existing heritage-listed buildings, and under-construction Charlton House apartments which are part of Mirvac’s Ascot Green development.

The Greens would also allocate 25ha of the site as parkland and community sports fields, with the potential for a new public school and medical centre and library.

The party proposes to repurpose the racetrack as a walking and cycling circuit.

An older two-bedroom apartment in Ascot rents for $450-$550 per week, more modern two-bedroom units can fetch $600-650 per week in rent.

Based on the Greens proposal, the 2000 social homes would be available for waitlisted Department of Housing tenants for around $150-$165 per week, while the 2000 publicly-available affordable homes would be rented for $420-$455 per week.

Entering the home straight in the March 16 election race, Mr Sriranganathan acknowledged the significant cost involved and outlined how he would source the ratepayer funds.

“The $40m (initial cost to purchase the site) is a very small fraction of the council’s annual budget – around 1 per cent,” he said.

“We think we can help fund that by reducing spending on wasteful road projects and also by increasing infrastructure charges.

“As for the bigger long-term cost, we think there is a case for debt-funded investment.

“If there is a choice between ordinary residents having to take out massive mortgages to pay for housing, or the council using its borrowing power to finance housing construction, it makes sense for the council to take on a little bit of debt to fund that.

“The reality is that we desperately need more public housing and public green space in the city.

“This kind of bold proposal is the kind of forward thinking that the city has been missing for a long time.”

Mr Sriranganathan said he had not spoken to the state government about sharing building costs, but said he had met with Brisbane Racing Club “a couple of weeks ago”.

“They were very concerned about the proposal and pretty unwilling to engage in a voluntary resumption (of the site), and that’s why we’re suggesting compulsory acquisition might have to be on the table,” he said.

Mr Sriranganathan said the rental revenue from the 4000 affordable dwellings and ground-level shops would become a long-term revenue source for the council, and in the long-term help to pay back the project’s upfront costs.

KevinM
KevinM
March 5, 2024 9:56 am

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Mar 5, 2024 9:42 AM

Thanks Zulu.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
March 5, 2024 9:56 am

Will there be any change out of $100 million by the time the Brittle-Knees saga finishes.
If you take legal fees, court costs, various compo payments etc into the mix?

Its a Keansian stimulus machine, the ultimate “dig the hole, put money in and pay people to dig it up again” machine.

Will there be a section in future economics handbooks extolling the virtues of Brittleknees ever expanding hole of stimulus?

Makka
Makka
March 5, 2024 10:02 am

Whats a reputable crypto wallet?

You might want to look at the Ledger range. I have one, extremely secure.

Roger
Roger
March 5, 2024 10:02 am

The 4000 medium-density dwellings would cover a fifth of the 49ha site and be built in buildings no higher than five storeys

I don’t mean to be a nay-sayer as housing solutions are desperately needed, but let’s hope the lessons of Pruitt-Igoe are heeded.

Makka
Makka
March 5, 2024 10:07 am

Brian Gitt
@BrianGitt
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Amazon Web Services (AWS) goes all-in on nuclear power.

AWS plans massive 960 MW nuclear powered data center campus in Pennsylvania.

MatrixTransform
March 5, 2024 10:08 am

Tough day for Monty

is he still offering odds or is his book closed?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 5, 2024 10:11 am

I don’t mean to be a nay-sayer as housing solutions are desperately needed, but let’s hope the lessons of Pruitt-Igoe are heeded.

Any West Australians remember the infamous Lockridge flats?

Vicki
Vicki
March 5, 2024 10:16 am

I have just come across advice very relevant, I think, to some important medical decisions I must make. It is the advice of Nobel Prize winner on QED, physicist Richard Feynman:

“It is a lot better to walk alone than with a crowd going in the wrong direction.”

Roger
Roger
March 5, 2024 10:20 am

This won’t be news to anyone with the malaise the UK is sinking into despite – or should that be because of – fourteen years of Tory governments, but…

Political parties are Britain’s least-trusted institution, according to new research. The Office for National Statistics (ONS) reports that only 12% of the public trust political parties, while 68% don’t.

– UnHerd

Over to you, Keir Starmer.

Roger
Roger
March 5, 2024 10:21 am

anyone familiarwith the malaise the UK is sinking into…

Roger
Roger
March 5, 2024 10:22 am

Another coffee required.

cohenite
March 5, 2024 10:39 am

SCOTUS’s judgment rejecting Colorado’s removal of Trump from the ballot is here.

It is concise in rejecting the 14th Amendment (3) dealing with insurrection as a means of barring Trump on 2 grounds. Firstly this is not a state power but a federal one and that only congress can bring an action under 14(3) against an individual for insurrection.

Of course not only has no charge of insurrection been brought against Trump for insurrection by Congress but none of the poor Jan 6 bastards have been charged let alone convicted of insurrection.

In describing the history and purpose of 14(3) SCOTUS notes this justification: (statement of Rep. Stevens, warning that without appropriate constitutional reforms “yelling secessionists and hissing copperheads” would take seats in the house.)

I can’t think of a better description of the anti Trumpers and demorats than yelling secessionists and hissing copperheads.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
March 5, 2024 10:46 am

AWS plans massive 960 MW nuclear powered data center campus in Pennsylvania.

Unpossible, Monty says it takes 30 years to do this..
And we will have all been raped to death by rampaging dickwolves caused by global warming by then anyway.

mizaris
mizaris
March 5, 2024 10:51 am

Any West Australians remember the infamous Lockridge flats?

Yes.

Tom
Tom
March 5, 2024 10:52 am

rampaging dickwolves

You learn something new every day at the Cat, even if it’s only some weird sh*t you’ve never heard before.

Rococo Liberal
Rococo Liberal
March 5, 2024 10:58 am

All western governments are copping the same apathy and disgust, because simply thet have become too bloated and too self-important.

We live in a world where the culture has been eaten away by liberal fools and proggie charlattans. Most of the instituioons that joined us together have now fallen into dessetude. Individualism and socialism have both corrupted our society so that common decencies are now being forgotten.

In days gone by people all used to watch the same TV shows on live broadcast TV and read the same newspapers. Now theere is nothing left that we all have in common except government and politics. Is it no wonder, then that the politicians are always going to look like fools or dickheads? They have been tasked with the impossible task of overseeing a behemoth that has been made too large just because, the populace and crony capitalists can’t join together in any other passtime but politics.

The only reason why I always vote for the Liberals and support conservative politicians everywhere is that there may be some hope that we’ll get another John Howard in office one day. But also the great thing about conservative govertnments is that do tend to manage things a little bit better and they are always better than left-wing governments.

The only advantage of left-wing governments coming in after a right-wing government has run out osf stem is that it should give the conservatives time to rejuvenate and come up with a plan to retrench and reframe the argument.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
March 5, 2024 10:59 am

Supreme Court Unanimously Rejects Removing Trump from the Ballots

COMMENT: Marty, the Supreme Court bought your argument that there is no subject matter jurisdiction for the states to remove Trump from the ballot. Even the Democrats on the Court unanimously agreed that states do not have the authority to enforce Section 3 of the Fourteenth Amendment. You were right. “This case raises the question whether the States, in addition to Congress, may also enforce Section 3. We conclude that States may disqualify persons holding or attempting to hold state office. But States have no power under the Constitution to enforce Section 3 with respect to federal offices, especially the Presidency”

BP

REPLY: “If this had not been political nonsense, it was a case that should have been dismissed as frivolous. A court is supposed FIRST to determine if it has the jurisdiction to hear the case. This was such a biased maneuver by those who brought the actions and the judges involved that it illustrates more than anything how BROKEN and MORALLY CORRUPT our legal system has become. It is no more trustworthy today than it was in Rome before the fall. As I submitted to the Court, there cannot be such jurisdiction to allow one state to prejudice a national election for all. Under the precedents, those involved committed a crime because their motive was to interfere in the 2024 election. These people are only concerned on winning at all costs and to keep the prospect for war alive. They advocated the overthrow of the government, which is the very thing they have accused Trump of.”

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/rule-of-law/supreme-court-unanimously-rejects-removing-trump-from-the-ballots/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=RSS

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
March 5, 2024 11:00 am

cohenite
Mar 5, 2024 10:39 AM

Im assuming you know the civil war origins of the term copperhead?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copperhead_(politics)#:~:text=In%20the%201860s%2C%20the%20Copperheads,Copperhead%20Democrats

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 5, 2024 11:02 am

Electric cars release more toxic emissions than petrol-powered vehicles and are worse for the environment

EVs weigh 30 percent more than petrol cars, causing tyres to wear out faster
The tire tread releases toxic particles 400 times greater than exhaust emissions
READ MORE: Apple pulls plug on e-car project, following other carmakers

By Nikki Main Science Reporter For Dailymail.Com

Published: 09:32 AEDT, 5 March 2024 | Updated: 10:25 AEDT, 5 March 2024

Electric vehicles may release more pollution than petrol-powered vehicles, according to a report that has recently resurfaced.

The study, which was published in 2022 but has begun circulating again after being cited in a WSJ op-ed, found that brakes and tyres release 1,850 times more particulate matter compared to modern exhaust pipes which have filters that reduce emissions.

It found that EVs are 30 percent heavier on average than petrol-powered vehicles, which causes the brakes and tyre treads to wear out faster than standard cars and releases tiny, often toxic particles into the atmosphere.

Roger
Roger
March 5, 2024 11:08 am

The perils Westerners expose themselves to when they imagine the rest of the world is as civilised as home:

‘Spanish travel blogger gang raped by seven men in India’

Three men appeared in court in India on Monday accused of the gang rape of a travel blogger on a round-the-world motorbike trip with her husband.

Police are hunting four other suspects for the brutal assault on the couple, who are Spanish and were in eastern India, in Jharkhand state’s Dumka district, when they were attacked on Friday night.

The attack has sparked outrage across India with activists calling for an end to violence against women.

The country has a poor record for women’s safety, with more than 31,000 rapes reported in 2022.

– The Telegraph

31 000 rapes in a year would be the tip of the iceberg in India.

The couple had pitched their tent in a forest clearing.

flyingduk
flyingduk
March 5, 2024 11:09 am

served on HMAS Stalwart several times during its commission and it was ‘fitted for but not with’ two Sea Cat systems. The ship had the two plinths for the mounts just below the bridge and two magazines. All that was needed to mount the missile system was to bolt on the quad mounts.

Yes, but were said weapons also purchased and in the armoury…. or was the plan to do that at some future time, and were the relevant sailors also available, and trained, and current?

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 5, 2024 11:10 am

Star ABC investigative journalist Louise Milligan

Jeez, that’s laying it on a bit thick.

Vicki
Vicki
March 5, 2024 11:12 am

An important article by Emeritis Prof. Bob Clancy on the appalling vilification of the use of Hydroxychloroquine in the treatment of Covid appearing today in Quadrant Online:

The discipline of medicine has changed. Its traditional cohesion and leadership have fractured into a multitude of disconnected specialty groups, allowing powerful commercial and political forces to increase control over both structure and function of medical practice. The Covid era burst through boundaries long taken for granted.

By examining the manipulation of hydroxychloroquine to attain a political end, this article seeks to illustrate the destructive forces brought to bear on how medicine was practised in Australia, with shameless disregard for the health and survival of patients, or for the integrity of those charged to care for their well-being.

I have practised as a physician in Australia for half a century. I recall when we knew (and revered) the name of the President of the Royal Australasian College of Physicians, while living in fear of their Chief Examiner as we sought qualification! They were great men and women and were the exemplars for ethical practice. They were the leaders and role models, providing evidence-based standards of medical practice. Today they only occasionally question imperfect narratives or challenge the ethics of prevailing medical practice, risking being part of the problem rather than a solution, creating a hiatus.

This essay appears in the current Quadrant.
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I was invited to speak at a symposium, “Medicine at the Crossroads in the Covid Era”. I sought a topic that illustrates contemporary challenges to Western medicine. Few topics could be more relevant than threats to the doctor-patient relationship, and to science-based medicine seen in the Covid pandemic. So I chose “The Curious Tale of Hydroxychloroquine (HCQ)” as a metaphor for the distortion Covid imposed on clinical practice, driven by misinformation aimed at supporting a flawed narrative originating from the highest sources of medical influence.

I am a clinical immunologist. I have a special interest in chronic inflammatory disease and the immunology of the airway. Among the valuable drugs in my clinical practice is HCQ, for which I have written approximately 20,000 prescriptions without any observed major side effect. It is a safe and effective medication that blocks antigen-promoting pathogenic immune responses in patients with autoimmune or hypersensitivity diseases.

Covid made HCQ a household name. No medication attracted more brutal and remorseless assault. It was subjected to unprecedented derision and negativity by medical professionals and the public alike. The mainline press and news media, acting in conformity with instructions from the “trusted news initiative”, ran prominent commentary that included gross misinformation and ridicule of those supporting its use. HCQ presents the dilemma that embodies the extremes of the narrative and science of Covid. In this context and over the last three years, popular narrative and science have gone down quite different paths.

First, a little about hydroxychloroquine. At the molecular level, the drug retains the quinoline ring structure of its parent, quinine, an alkaloid secondary metabolite derived from the bark of the cinchona tree, native to Peru. Known as an allelochemical, meaning that it interacts with other organisms, quinine is a highly evolved antioxidant and free radical scavenger component of the defence network of host plants. Quinine shares with other allelochemicals multiple intracellular targets. Advantages for allelochemicals used as therapeutics in treating disease include modification of the cell response to infection in order to dampen the hijacking of its metabolic machinery to produce pathogen.

Quinine differs from synthetic antivirals that block specific biochemical steps essential for viral replication. Advantages that come with multiple cell targets include resilience to mutant escape, protection against mutated variants resistant to both natural and vaccine-induced immunity, long biological half-lives, and activity over a wider disease cycle, with value in both prevention and therapy. Quinine and its derivatives have a long record of treating infectious disease, most notably malaria, but also have a documented anti-viral effect. Chloroquine was effective in vitro against SARS-CoV-1. So it was no surprise that Chinese scientists included chloroquine in a panel of repurposed drugs testing for anti-Covid activity within weeks of the pandemic being announced. In vitro anti-viral activity in micromolar concentrations was confirmed in several centres.

Numerous small clinical studies appeared through the first half of 2020, supporting drug benefit. Two studies were influential, shaping the immediate future for HCQ, but in unintended ways. First came reports from the infectious disease group in Marseille, led by the controversial Professor Didier Raoult. A successful trial, published in mid-March 2020, which including twenty-four patients, combined the antibiotic azithromycin with HCQ, and gained attention, with Sanofi, a French multinational pharmaceutical and healthcare company, offering large supplies, and President Macron consulting Raoult.

The second was a family doctor in upstate New York, Vlad Zelenko, who noted in an open letter to President Trump in 2020 a dramatic change in outcomes from Covid infection when early disease was treated with HCQ, azithromycin and zinc. His data were later published as a case series of 2200 patients, claiming 95 per cent protection against both admission to hospital and death. Trump’s enthusiasm for Zelenko’s approach led to worldwide publicity and controversy.

Blowback against HCQ was immediate and without precedent. In France, Raoult was an easy target. By November 2020 he faced a disciplinary hearing for “spreading false information” and eventually lost his job. The mainstream press aimed to quell “disinformation”. It had meshed gears to continue an attack on Raoult which pre-dated Covid and centred on studies in tuberculosis. Opposition became focused on complaints made by a Dr Bik, identifying procedural problems, ethical irregularities and methodology variations (but never fraudulent HCQ claims). Legal proceedings brought by Raoult made him a public talking point. The science of HCQ was lost in the fray.

The ongoing furore ensured the rejection of HCQ as a Covid therapy in France. In the US, Zelenko suffered a similar fate—incomplete patient data combined with the curse of support from President Trump generated widespread condemnation. Comments such as “a jumble of facts, falsehoods, and rumours collides with our fragile information ecosystem” characterised the public and medical response.

Several events in late 2020 combined to stifle any chance of HCQ’s survival as an accepted treatment for Covid. Three large randomised controlled trials (RCT) failed to support HCQ, causing the WHO to distance itself from the drug. In its place the narrative became “Support vaccines at any cost”. Trials of a second repurposed drug with anti-Covid activity (ivermectin) and the imminent launch of the genetic vaccines further shaped the narrative.

The Surgisphere Trial was published in the Lancet in May 2020, the Solidarity Trial, sponsored by the WHO, in the New England Journal of Medicine in October 2020, and the Recovery Trial involving a collaborative UK group, in the New England Journal of Medicine in June 2020. Each study included thousands of hospitalised patients with late and serious disease, with high mortality of 10 to 25 per cent in both study and control arms. The Surgisphere study was withdrawn by the Lancet, with claims of fraud because of data manipulation, while numerous inconsistencies were noted in the other studies. High doses used in sick patients were linked to cardiac arrhythmias. The results of these studies stopped further research. The WHO withdrew support for HCQ, and the Cochrane Review (considered an arbiter of “best practice”) advised against further studies.

The demonstration from Monash University in June 2020 that ivermectin had anti-viral activity in vitro, followed by positive clinical studies, immediately shifted disinformation claims from HCQ to another repurposed drug that threatened the imminent release of the Covid vaccines. Results from phase 3 trials for a series of genetic vaccines appeared in late 2020 amid a fanfare of support, with political, media and medical commitment combining to suppress any treatment option that might hinder vaccine uptake.

Now, in 2024, six discoveries have changed the playing field to give a better understanding of HCQ in management of COVID-19.

The first is identification of a target for HCQ early in viral replication. It was known that HCQ increased pH within lysosomes to reduce lysosomal protein degradation and early autophagy, key events in later aspects of viral replication. However, recent proteomic studies using cloned and tagged viral proteins identified specific protein-protein interaction on cell surfaces that required a Sigma-1R molecule as a chaperone to enable viral entry across the cell membrane. Many drugs were assessed for their capacity to block the action of Sigma-1R. HCQ was the most potent of this group, signalling its potential for effective early treatment.

The second insight came from an analysis of clinical studies concentrating on high-risk subjects with early disease. Despite clear evidence from early 2020 that HCQ had maximum benefit early in disease (as was the case with most anti-viral therapies, as is well known for cold sores and shingles) and in high-risk patients, detractors of HCQ continued to include hospitalised patients with advanced disease in meta-analyses. It was these inappropriate assessments that influenced official advice. This strategy was not accidental.

Professor Harvey Risch, a senior epidemiologist from Yale University, in an evidence brief of June 2021, included a meta-analysis of nine controlled outpatient studies in high-risk subjects. Every study showed protection, with the meta-analyses revealing highly significant protection against hospitalisation at 44 per cent, and death at 75 per cent. Regional studies in India and Brazil found a close temporal relationship between dosing and a reduction in mortality.

The third insight came from a concern over conflict of interest created by grants and payments from pharmaceutical companies to investigators. Where authors had no conflict of interest, success for HCQ treatment was 86 per cent, while in those with a conflict of interest, only 5 per cent had positive outcomes.

Fourth was a retrospective analysis of the experience of the Marseille group, previously directed by Professor Raoult. Data on 30,400 subjects treated to the end of 2021 were included. Sensitivity to earlier criticism about accuracy and objectivity led to the study including an external judicial officer in the study. Amongst this treated group, subjects treated with HCQ had a mortality of 0.1 per cent. When those treated with HCQ were compared with those not treated with HCQ, the HCQ-treated subjects had a significant advantage with respect to mortality (70 per cent protection in outpatients, and 45 per cent in inpatients), providing strong support for the inclusion of HCQ in early therapeutic regimens.

Fifth was the registration of the specific antiviral drugs molnupiravir and paxlovid based on scanty and controversial data. Molnupiravir is a powerful mutagen with untested toxicity in humans and little evidence of clinical value. A UK study of 20,000 infected subjects failed to show any benefit in preventing serious disease for molnupiravir, yet it is the common drug of choice in Australia for most patients with COVID-19. Paxlovid reduces both admission to hospital and mortality, but to a lesser extent than does HCQ. It has age restrictions, drug incompatibilities and a high relapse rate.

Accusation of undue influence over regulatory assessment of both drugs despite these concerns, and costs in excess of $1000 per course, may have contributed to both HCQ and ivermectin being quietly released by the Australian Therapeutic Goods Administration for off-label use. Just twelve months ago, a doctor in Queensland could be jailed for prescribing HCQ, while others across Australia faced being deregistered. The data have not changed. But the damage had been done.

A sixth reason was concern that the vaccine narrative, which drove the suppression of repurposed drugs, had become tarnished with repeated boosters failing to protect—even promoting infection—amidst growing alarm over severe adverse events.

The curious tale of HCQ is a story of tension between a narrative to protect pharmaceutical interests, and science. It should never have happened because long-established clinical practice involves informed consent and decisions based on what may work within the doctor-patient relationship. This includes judicious use of off-label drugs of known safety and mechanism of action.

As a clinical immunologist whose patients often have rare diseases, and are all different, I need to individualise the therapy I prescribe. In the Covid era, HCQ came to symbolise a change in the order of medical business—of denying patients best-practice medicine that may have saved many lives, and ridiculing individuals and institutions who promoted it.

A major driver of opinion about Covid has been the World Health Organisation (WHO). Its Health Emergencies Program in its proposed form, designed to strengthen disease-specific systems and capacities, including for vaccines, pharmaceuticals and other public health interventions, may be a serious threat to independent local health systems. Given it is an unelected body responsive to powerful lobbies, and with a performance short of wide approval in its overarching role in the recent pandemic, there is reason to tread carefully.

The WHO has moved a long way from its founding principles in 1948 to keep the world safe by connecting nations, partners and people to promote health. Covid laid bare an agenda to manipulate world-best practice and centralise its control. Suppressing HCQ was a rehearsal. By controlling major clinical trials and using their influence on regulatory bodies, with supportive propaganda, the WHO and its partners shifted decision-making from grass-roots medicine to international forces driven by power and financial reward.

The WHO is a complex organisation, subject to many political and economic influences. It is vulnerable to manipulation because of chronic underfunding and the crossfire of conflicting national agendas. Its support for expensive, potentially dangerous, and variably effective patented antiviral drugs (remdesivir, molnupiravir and paxlovid), alongside its negativity with respect to safe, cheap and effective repurposed drugs such as HCQ and ivermectin, may reflect the influence of massive pharmaceutical companies and their host nations on its fragile agenda.

Things started to go wrong in mid-2020 with the Solidarity Study mentioned above recruiting more than 3550 hospitalised patients with advanced COVID-19 in thirty-five countries and 400 hospitals. They were unlikely to respond to any therapy. Unless initiated within twenty-four to forty-eight hours, anti-viral treatment is rarely beneficial. On the basis of results from this study, WHO posted on December 31, 2020, a release recommending against HCQ as a dangerous and ineffective drug likely to cause ventricular arrhythmias. That posting remains, supported by “30 trials with more than 10,000 patients”. Again, all were in late-stage infection and, as usual, evidence that HCQ works well in early disease was pointedly ignored.

A review of all studies provides perspective. The website “HCQ for COVID-19” (https://c19hcq.org/meta.html) maintains an updated and annotated compendium of meta-analyses, including every study on every drug tested against Covid. Current data on early treatment with HCQ gives 62 per cent protection in thirty-six studies with 56,000 patients. Mortality following early treatment was 72 per cent lower in the treated group, according to a meta-analysis including fifteen studies and 52,000 patients. This data source includes a review of thirty-nine published physician case series of early treatment in 237,000 subjects. The mean protection against hospitalisation and mortality was 94 per cent. While these real-life data sets are subject to bias, include different drug combinations, and they lack patient details, they are consistent with more formal studies.

This article has followed the science, arguing that HCQ has a pivotal role in early treatment of high-risk individuals with COVID-19 infection. The argument has had to battle alternative stories—espoused by much of the mainline press and promoted by an aggressive pharmaceutical industry with widespread grants—that vaccines and expensive antiviral drugs are the exclusive key to controlling Covid.

The handling of HCQ in Covid has three major elements. First, given that HCQ was an approved pharmaceutical whose safety profile and mechanism of action were well known, it could be argued that the physician operating with informed consent within the doctor-patient relationship should be free to determine whether the off-label use of HCQ would benefit that patient.

Second, the fate of HCQ is a story about switching decision-making in medicine from a core of experienced clinicians familiar with local needs, to powerful global political and commercial interests.

Third, the Covid pandemic has shifted towards an endemic disease, but remains a frequent infection which in the aged and those with risk factors carries significant mortality. Hydroxychloroquine (and ivermectin) as cheap, safe and available drugs, are drugs of choice for early treatment today, as they always have been.

The curious tale of HCQ in the Covid era raises questions about how best to make clinical decisions for our patients. Traditional Australian confidence in the doctor-patient relationship, and in science, have served us well. We should be careful to defend and strengthen them. The WHO has an important role in monitoring disease, providing advice and co-ordinating programs that otherwise are beyond local resources. However, these essential activities must not conflict with sovereign authorities in domains equipped with quality health services based on local knowledge, strong science infrastructure and a tradition of medical practice based on personal responsibility.

Robert Clancy is Emeritus Professor of Pathology at the University of Newcastle Medical School. He is a member of the Australian Academy of Science’s Covid-19 Expert Database. He also wrote on aspects of the Covid pandemic in Quadrant’s July-August and October 2022 issues. He thanks Professor Stephen Leeder AO for his editorial help in preparing this article.

Roger
Roger
March 5, 2024 11:13 am

All western governments are copping the same apathy and disgust, because simply thet have become too bloated and too self-important.

And, in the UK, increasingly incapable of delivering the basic services people pay taxes for. This will become increasingly apparent here too if/as living standards decline.

m0nty
m0nty
March 5, 2024 11:16 am

If they hadn’t ruled for Trump the red states would counterban Biden for either the 14th or the 25th Amendment. Scotus would own the resulting massive constitutional crisis.

Yep, Republicans would subvert the law with no justification for wholly partisan purposes. Blackmail wins!

Big relief for Trump. Now he only has 91 criminal indictments, half a billion USD in court fines payable by the end of the month, legal fees in the tens of millions, empty RNC coffers, and obviously onrushing dementia to deal with.

flyingduk
flyingduk
March 5, 2024 11:16 am

Whats a reputable crypto wallet?
Got burned for a couple a few years back.

I have been in this game since 2015, and use paper for safest, deepest storage, Ledger for next level (easier access but not quite as safe) and Exodus for ready use. The latter is a good place to start if you are a newbie. Above all, *do not* keep your crypto assets on the exchange where you got them – thats no safer than leaving your money in the bank in terms of risk of freezure or seizure.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 5, 2024 11:17 am

Ace et al commenting on Nikki Haley’s win in Washington DC:

“Haley’s spokesperson noted that her victory makes her the first woman to win a Republican presidential primary contest in US history.”

Oh wow. Our first official uterus. Pfft.

Gold…! Super Tuesday tonight will be fun.

m0nty
m0nty
March 5, 2024 11:21 am

I also note Allen Weisselberg got gaol today for one of the many scams he ran for Trump.

I wonder how Eric and Don Jnr are doing, trying to find a bank in New York that TFG hasn’t burned yet.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
March 5, 2024 11:24 am

Big relief for Trump. Now he only has 91 fake criminal indictments

FIFY Monty.

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
March 5, 2024 11:27 am

Albo again speaking and embarrassing us all. “Green shipping route to Singapore”.

Muddy
Muddy
March 5, 2024 11:28 am

thefrollickingmole
Mar 5, 2024 9:56 AM

… Brittleknees ever expanding hole of stimulus?

Oh dear.

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 5, 2024 11:29 am

The byelection caravan rolls on to SloMo country. In a positive sign Teh Paywallian reports the Howard endorsed candidate finished 3rd in preselections.

amortiser
amortiser
March 5, 2024 11:29 am

Did Monty offer better than $1.01 for a 9-0 slap down?

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
March 5, 2024 11:29 am

Ms Higgins, who was given a mysterious $2.4m taxpayer handout from Labor, with no reasons given, is back from her “new life” in France with partner David Sharaz for mediation with Senator Reynolds in Perth to try to avert a possible six-week defamation trial in July.

Hopefully, following the current trajectory of misery as legal process catches up with politics, Senator Reynolds will end up as proud owner of a damp ‘château’ in the Dordogne.

Muddy
Muddy
March 5, 2024 11:34 am

Since his return, there seems to be a certain Jenny-says-quar missing from Monty’s drool.

Makka
Makka
March 5, 2024 11:34 am

m0ron,

That has to be up there with your most pathetic trolling effort evah.

cohenite
March 5, 2024 11:36 am

Big relief for Trump. Now he only has 91 criminal indictments,

Fani’s indictments are going well. The rest are bullshit.

half a billion USD in court fines payable by the end of the month,

They’re subject to appeal. Wanna bet dickless.

legal fees in the tens of millions, empty RNC coffers, and obviously onrushing dementia to deal with.

The lawyers are acting pro bono. Empty coffers!!? Dementia. Pathetic piss taking; and ironic.

Winston Smith
March 5, 2024 11:37 am

Arky:
Gold $A $3,256.32 $US $2,119.21
It took a while sitting around the $3k mark but obviously started breaking out a couple of days ago.
I don’t think it will move much more from here for the next month or so.

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 5, 2024 11:37 am

thefrollickingmole
Mar 5, 2024 9:56 AM

… Brittleknees ever expanding hole of stimulus?

Makes sense. Everything’s been expanding since Bruce’s plans went awry. Not too hot in Perth today if you’ve just flown in from rural France.

Roger
Roger
March 5, 2024 11:41 am

In a positive sign Teh Paywallian reports the Howard endorsed candidate finished 3rd in preselections.

Otoh, the winner lost Bennelong in 2022 with an almost 8% swing against him and is a partner at McKinseys.

Another one out of the Liberal sausage machine.

Luckily for him, he’ll likely face little or no opposition in Cook.

Winston Smith
March 5, 2024 11:43 am

Steve trickler

Mar 4, 2024 8:59 PM
He copped a well deserved flogging.
====
Steve Inman:
Another Community comes together to take out the trash

That’s what happens when the Police and Magistrates refuse to do their job. It isn’t pretty.

Roger
Roger
March 5, 2024 11:43 am

monty is very excitable today.

That usually doesn’t end well.

Winston Smith
March 5, 2024 11:45 am

H B Bear

Mar 4, 2024 9:03 PM
Looks like the Brittany circus is coming to Perth. I can report in person if someone will stump up lunch money for sandwiches.

More than happy to sling a few bob your way for some legal beagle action. How do we get it to you?

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 5, 2024 11:46 am

Another one out of the Liberal sausage machine.

Sauce?

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 5, 2024 11:48 am

More than happy to sling a few bob your way for some legal beagle action. How do we get it to you?

Mediation today. No visitors.

Winston Smith
March 5, 2024 11:50 am

Delta A

Mar 4, 2024 9:39 PM
Funniest/ cleverest award: I still can’t stop laughing at Winnies Redbacks quip. Still searching.

Huh?

Winston Smith
March 5, 2024 11:53 am

Digger

Mar 4, 2024 10:21 PM
As mum used to say, there’s more ways of skinning a cat than by stuffing it’s arse with butter.”

Pretty novel way to skin a cat…

Mum had many sayings of that nature – not always about cats.

Boambee John
Boambee John
March 5, 2024 12:01 pm

Yep, Republicans would subvert the law with no justification for wholly partisan purposes.

Who would have thought that mUnty has a (perverted) sense of humour?

After years of the DemonRats “subvert[ing] the law for wholly partisan purposes” mUnty discovers that such actions might be a little dubious.

But only when his own side suffers.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
March 5, 2024 12:02 pm

Crying over the Supreme Court Decision – Get Over It

“Some critics are obviously anti-Trump who have come out crying that’s really unusual for the Court to give such little notice that they would release a decision. They are indeed crying that this was because of Super Tuesday and therefore they are trying to support Trump. Let me explain something here to these absolutely biased idiots. Let’s say the Supreme Court waited until May or June to release its decision, and you have Colorado, Maine, and Illinois who blocked Trump. Then what would happen? The entire 2024 election might be seriously impacted and then challenged in court in another array of suits. They had to rule, and it was UNANIMOUS before Super Tuesday to avoid a constitutional crisis. EVERYONE on the court agreed – Colorado had no such jurisdiction – PERIOD!

As I wrote in my Amicus Brief to the Supreme Court, the last time any state refused to allow a candidate on the ballot was 1860 when Abraham Lincoln did not appear on the ballots in the South. What followed? The Civil War. The Founding Fathers never intended to allow a rogue state to interfere in either national commerce or national federal elections, as implied in the Commerce Clause, Article 1, Section 8, Clause 3 of the U.S. Constitution. Could Colorado remove a senator or congressman of another state claiming that they were part of the January 6th event they called an unarmed insurrection? There is no jurisdiction for a single state to remove a national candidate from the ballot – PERIOD! Assuming such power would mean they too could interfere in the commerce of other states. That would lead to complete chaos. Even Sotomayor, the favorite of the Democrats, wrote clearly:

“Allowing Colorado to do so would, we agree, create a chaotic state-by-state patchwork, at odds with our Nation’s federalism principles. That is enough to resolve this case.”

Anyone who cannot see that is so biased; they no longer have a functioning brain cell. They have been so brainwashed, they are no longer competent even to vote. We are either a nation with a national identity or a patchwork of states that no longer should pretend to be united.”

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/rule-of-law/crying-over-the-supreme-court-decision-get-over-it/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=RSS

Winston Smith
March 5, 2024 12:04 pm

Digger\Boambee John:
Mar 4, 2024 10:47 PM

the Navy reps favoured more ships.

Safety in numbers makes sense. Technology, size and stature didn’t save Yamato or Bismark…

That one is a hard call in the Fitted for but not With decision. (FF&NW) for sheer practical sake.
Both decisions have their trade offs.
FF ships assume there is time – and the systems available to bring the ships up to combat status. There’s no guarantee of this. FW ships mean instant readiness in case of a sneak attack (Pearl Harbour?). but a lesser amount. Frankly unless we can get our dockyards humming, the new ship supply won’t be there. We certainly won’t be getting any off the US.
In the case of the ships, a mix of FF/FW would satisfy the Admirals and bean counters.

Dot
Dot
March 5, 2024 12:04 pm

Yep, Republicans would subvert the law with no justification for wholly partisan purposes. Blackmail wins!

Kagan and Sotomayor are well known Senate Republicans.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 5, 2024 12:07 pm

Ms Higgins, who was given a mysterious $2.4m taxpayer handout from Labor, with no reasons given

There are quite a few ex servicemen and veterans, who wouldn’t mind having their claims on Department of Veterans Affairs, settled as quickly as Brittany…

Winston Smith
March 5, 2024 12:14 pm

dover0beach

Mar 4, 2024 11:07 PM
eugyppius
@eugyppius1

·

16h
so luftwaffe brass held online meeting about using taurus to blow up the kerch bridge & they talked about the supersecret measures they might take to hide their involvement – like driving targeting data into poland – & this whole supersecret convo happened over unsecured webex.

Lmao

This is what happens in just about every Officers Mess in any competent army.
I think it was Montgomery who said on taking over in North Africa – “I want to hear shop talk in the Mess. Nothing but shop. We have much to learn and little time to do it in.”
(Memory is a bit wonky from something I read many years ago – from the Profession of Arms, perhaps?)

Digger
Digger
March 5, 2024 12:20 pm

Yes, but were said weapons also purchased and in the armoury…. or was the plan to do that at some future time, and were the relevant sailors also available, and trained, and current?

All of much lower consequence than not having the platforms. Sailors are trained in their use very quickly. I was a Clearance Diver but when I was posted to Stalwart as a Petty Officer I trained and was certified to command the 40mm twin bofors as a local gun direction officer in less than a week. When I was a Chief on the Supply I was trained and certified in 4 hours to completely run and operate the fuelling rig to refuel other ships streaming alongside us.

The point is, the correctly designed and built platforms are the critical point in the whole process. All other factors are quickly achievable.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
March 5, 2024 12:32 pm

Dr Duk.
I assume you know of these medicos still being scragged by the authorities for covid heresy.

https://twitter.com/myletrinh123/status/1764820887105327176

Vicki
Vicki
March 5, 2024 12:32 pm

I know that electricity rates have gone up….but by 60%?????

Just got the bill for the last billing period for our city house – in which we spend very little time – and the bill is 60% more than the comparable bill for the same time in 2023.

We wish we knew that you could refuse the installation of a “smart” metre. The latter was installed about a year ago.

Winston Smith
March 5, 2024 12:33 pm

Farmer Gez

Mar 5, 2024 7:36 AM
In Australia we have on average 700 people per GP.
Our town will be one to three thousand. This is not any where near unusual in the bush and highlights the over concentration of medical care in cities and the complete failure of government to supply basic health care needs outside the voting city circle they care about.

And they wonder why we get bitter about services…

Roger
Roger
March 5, 2024 12:40 pm

Jim Chalmers is set to preside over the longest stretch in declining living standards since 1990 as Australia heads for another quarter of negative growth per capita.

I don’t imagine he’ll be claiming “It’s the per capital recession we had to have.”

Pogria
Pogria
March 5, 2024 12:44 pm

Vicki,
re, the not-so-smart meter, smash it.
Make it look as though something ran into it or a branch etc.
Also, do some more research. If you were able to say no at the start, but did not know you had that right, there must be a way that you can have it removed citing lack of information etc.

I would rather smash it because of the feel food value. 😀

m0nty
m0nty
March 5, 2024 12:45 pm

The lawyers are acting pro bono

No they’re not, LOL. They all get paid up front, given Trump’s long history of stiffing his employees. Why do you think the RNC is flat broke? Trump has been draining their coffers to pay his lawyers.

Boambee John
Boambee John
March 5, 2024 12:53 pm

I see mUnty still spouting DemonRat talking points.

Winston Smith
March 5, 2024 1:02 pm

ZK2A:
“As a queer person I feel that it’s our responsibility to express support and solidarity here at Mardi Gras with Palestinians resisting the settler-colonial Zionist entity and its genocidal violence,” a Queers in Solidarity with Palestinian Resistance member said.

As a normal heterosexual man, I feel it is my responsibility to express my disdain – nay, contempt for a mob of deviants who walked away from a tacit agreement that they lived their lives quietly and without pushing their perversions onto the rest of society.
But now that the old agreement has been rejected in favour of demanding we not only allow them to publicly flaunt their behaviour, but we also must support their attempts to get at our kids, and to publicly approve of their deviancy.
OK, you had what you originally asked for, but now having thrown out the original agreement, you demand more?

Islam had it right about homosexuals.

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 5, 2024 1:03 pm

Health insurance up on average 3%. Announced the Monday after the Dunkley byelection.

Suck it up mushrooms.

Roger
Roger
March 5, 2024 1:04 pm

I see mUnty still spouting DemonRat talking points.

One way to avoid the disaster that Albanese’s government is inflicting on Australians.

Figures
Figures
March 5, 2024 1:04 pm

Monty, if any Democrat politician can be shown to have valued their home higher than what they ended up selling it for, do you agree that they need to be fined $350 million?

Top Ender
Top Ender
March 5, 2024 1:05 pm

To add to Digger’s wise words, another aspect of “for but not with” is it allows a country to do defence on cheap, but at least have a basis for fighting more capably if it comes down to it.

(Australia of course loves doing defence that way…)

So for example you fit mounting and command channels for Harpoon missile canisters on warships. At least they are there and you can finish off the complete system when you get scared enough… if they weren’t there you have a big retro-fit to fit the complete system into a ship.

MatrixTransform
March 5, 2024 1:05 pm

mUntard’s bobble-head still bobbling today?

seems to think the supreme Court ruling was something to do with Trump

that’s some pretty funny stuff

H B Bear
H B Bear
March 5, 2024 1:06 pm

I don’t imagine he’ll be claiming “It’s the per capital recession we had to have.”

That would be a nice touch.

MatrixTransform
March 5, 2024 1:07 pm

Trump has been draining their coffers to pay his lawyers

fantasy football

Rococo Liberal
Rococo Liberal
March 5, 2024 1:08 pm

I’m an Old Cranbrookian.

The President of the old boys association informed us all of the upcomng programme. After the programme airde he also informed us that the school thought it was all a nothingburger.

If the programme convinces the noveau proggie parents to send their children elswhere then that can’t be a bad thing.

m0nty
m0nty
March 5, 2024 1:13 pm

Monty, if any Democrat politician can be shown to have valued their home higher than what they ended up selling it for, do you agree that they need to be fined $350 million?

1. Trump got done for fraud mostly on business premises in NY, Chicago and DC, not his home.

2. If a Democrat was involved in a years-long conspiracy to defraud banks and insurers of hundreds of millions of dollars by falsifying financial statements, yes they would deserve it.

3. trump is going to owe close to $500M US when he gets around to paying, due to accumulated interest.

Roger
Roger
March 5, 2024 1:14 pm

I’m an Old Cranbrookian.

We won’t hold that against you here, old bean.

Winston Smith
March 5, 2024 1:16 pm

thefrollickingmole

Mar 5, 2024 10:46 AM
AWS plans massive 960 MW nuclear powered data center campus in Pennsylvania.

Unpossible, Monty says it takes 30 years to do this..
And we will have all been raped to death by rampaging dickwolves caused by global warming by then anyway.

Many upticks, bucket loads of the bloody things, Moll.

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
March 5, 2024 1:19 pm

MatrixTransform
Mar 5, 2024 1:05 PM
mUntard’s bobble-head still bobbling today?

seems to think the supreme Court ruling was something to do with Trump

that’s some pretty funny stuff

The US Constitution rules supreme. A 9 to 0 result is a thumping and a Big Plus for the Rule of Law.

m0nty
m0nty
March 5, 2024 1:21 pm

AWS plans massive 960 MW nuclear powered data center campus in Pennsylvania.

AWS bought an existing data centre which is powered by a nuke plant that opened in 1983. Calm down cowboy.

Kneel
Kneel
March 5, 2024 1:25 pm

M0nty:”Yep, Republicans would subvert the law with no justification for wholly partisan purposes. Blackmail wins!

Big relief for Trump. Now he only has 91 criminal indictments, half a billion USD in court fines payable by the end of the month, legal fees in the tens of millions, empty RNC coffers, and obviously onrushing dementia to deal with.”

Not to put too fine a point on it, but that SCOTUS decision seems to suggest that it was the Dems who were “subverting” the law with no justification. Oops. It was 9:0 don’t forget.

The left is already flipping out at SCOTUS for deigning to hear Trump’s defense that, as President, any official duty he performs is covered by a different criminal process – normal process is: DoJ/FBI/Police investigate, convene Grand Jury, obtain indictment, proceed to trial. For an official duty by the President, that changes to: House impeaches, Senate convicts, president removed from office (if still in office), Grand Jury indicts, proceed to trial.
And make no mistake, overseeing the fairness and legality of a federal election is most certainly a duty of the head of the executive branch (the President) – you may complain there is a conflict of interest (and I wouldn’t disagree either), but that doesn’t stop the left from doing the same thing in, eg, Arizona, where the Sec State was running for Governor and “oversaw” her own election.

Then there’s the RICO case in Georgia – that might go away if Willis and her boyfriend get tossed off the case for even the appearance of conflict of interest, as seems likely.

As to NY, this will also wend its way through the tortured US legal system and potentially end up at SCOTUS – Trump was found guilty on a summary judgement, the trial was just about how much he had to pay in fines. Note fines, not restitution. Not only did the bank say it did its own due diligence, that they got paid back on time and in full, but that they’d be happy to deal with Trump again. The size of that fine is likely to breach US constitutional rules as well.

And Stormy Daniels – well, paying someone “hush money” has a long tradition in US politics, and it is established case law, as proposed by the FEC no less, and agreed to by federal courts (and never appealed) that you CAN’T pay such hush money from your official election funding sources, as it is NOT a legitimate election expense. But they said because Trump didn’t, it was criminal.

All the rest are equally as flimsy, all are brazen lawfare, where “the process IS the punishment”.

Back with the NYC “fraud” case, it may amuse you to know that now the SEC has agreed to allow Truth Social to use their SPAC to go public, Trump stands to own roughly $4 BILLION in Truth stock. Maybe he’ll cash in a cool $500M of that, post the fine as surety, and appeal it as far as he can, both state and federal.

In related news, popcorn futures soared today…

Johnny Rotten
Johnny Rotten
March 5, 2024 1:32 pm

This was announced in September of 2023 –

Microsoft has nuclear ambitions for datacenters.

Microsoft is searching for a key figure to spearhead its nuclear technology strategy, focusing on implementing small modular reactors (SMRs) and microreactors for its data centers, reports Datacenter Dynamics. This move follows the company’s recent procurement of Clean Energy Credits from Ontario Power Generation involving. The global demand for sustainable power is surging, and Microsoft aims to be at the forefront of this energy transition.

To stay ahead in the energy game, Microsoft is actively recruiting a principal program manager specializing in nuclear technology. This individual will be tasked with devising and executing a strategy revolving around SMRs and microreactors. Their primary objective will be to ensure these reactors can efficiently power Microsoft’s vast array of data centers.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/microsoft-seeks-to-power-datacenters-with-small-modular-reactors

Vicki
Vicki
March 5, 2024 1:35 pm

Vicki,
re, the not-so-smart meter, smash it.
Make it look as though something ran into it or a branch etc.

At this very moment husband is on phone to electricity provider who is insisting we have used an amount of electricity over a week equivalent to a small factory!!!

He is negotiating but operator is insistent we used it.

Zafiro
Zafiro
March 5, 2024 1:36 pm

He is negotiating but operator is insistent we used it.

Growers next door?

Roger
Roger
March 5, 2024 1:39 pm

Albanese set to announce $2bn to fund clean energy infrastructure in south east Asia.

ASEAN leaders licking their lips.

2dogs
March 5, 2024 1:43 pm

or an official duty by the President, that changes to: House impeaches, Senate convicts, president removed from office (if still in office), Grand Jury indicts, proceed to trial.

There is an argument here that could get up: that immunity is never absolute, but rather transfers jurisdiction from the courts to congress. So that when congress impeaches an office holder, it is reserving the matter for itself. So Trump has been tried over this offence during his second impeachment. The courts must accept congress’ verdict on the matter.

flyingduk
flyingduk
March 5, 2024 1:45 pm

All of much lower consequence than not having the platforms. Sailors are trained in their use very quickly. I was a Clearance Diver but when I was posted to Stalwart as a Petty Officer I trained and was certified to command the 40mm twin bofors as a local gun direction officer in less than a week. When I was a Chief on the Supply I was trained and certified in 4 hours to completely run and operate the fuelling rig to refuel other ships streaming alongside us.

A missile system is a highly technical piece of kit (like an anaesthetist). We know it takes years to train a fighter pilot (and even longer to train an anaesthetist). How long would it take to train an operating crew for a missile system, even if it were available, up to war standard, and how sure are we about that lead time, and what happens to the ship in the gap period – think Falklands war?

Weapons systems are Increasing in complexity faster than the platforms the carry them, hence the warship builders adage: ‘Steels cheap and airs free’

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
March 5, 2024 1:45 pm

Monty, dont mistake being mocked to being engaged with.

I wonder why they chose to place their data centre near steady, reliable, base load power source instead of intermittents and battery stored energy?
Its a mystery.

I wonder how a venn diagram of locations of data centres and access to nuclear baseload would look?
….

/SCREAMS IN MONTY

A normal data centre needs 32 megawatts of power flowing into the building. For an AI data centre it’s 80 megawatts,” says Mr Sharp


https://www.datacenter-forum.com/karnfull-next/nuclear-powered-campus-in-sweden-to-power-data-centers

JC
JC
March 5, 2024 1:46 pm

The Hiden campaign is really good at politics. They’re saying Trump will act as a dictator and won’t leave after 4 years in office. They’re basically telegraphing they believe Trump will win in 24.

flyingduk
flyingduk
March 5, 2024 1:50 pm

At least they are there and you can finish off the complete system when you get scared enough… if they weren’t there you have a big retro-fit to fit the complete system into a ship.

I say again, how confident are we that we can obtain the hardware, software and liveware in the interval between deciding we need to order it, and the day we need to use it?

m0nty
m0nty
March 5, 2024 1:50 pm

Not to put too fine a point on it, but that SCOTUS decision seems to suggest that it was the Dems who were “subverting” the law with no justification. Oops. It was 9:0 don’t forget.

The 9-0 judgment was on the narrow ruling of whether the consequences of allowing a state to block a Presidential candidate from the ballot was chaotic. In other words, yes, if you read the Constitution literally, it does empower the states to do radical things like disqualifying an insurrectionist (see: Shelby County) without requiring Congressional legislation, but because that insurrectionist controls key state legislatures, enforcing a literalist interpretation would lead to a crisis.

It was 5-4 on the question of whether the Constitution means what it says it does. The majority, predictably, pulled yet another Bush v Gore move of ignoring the text of the law and making up new rules out of thin air. Standard practice for so-called “textualists” when the result of textualism means their side loses.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
March 5, 2024 1:53 pm

The majority, predictably, pulled yet another Bush v Gore move of ignoring the text of the law and making up new rules out of thin air.

Nothing like the rock ribbed black letter law of Roe vs Wade then?

Vicki
Vicki
March 5, 2024 1:58 pm

Growers next door?

Nah….oldies like us!

I recall reading that when “smart” meters were introduced into the UK there were all sorts of anomalies in electricity bills.

Graham
Graham
March 5, 2024 2:00 pm

“Green shipping route to Singapore”.

I assume Albo has in mind reverting to the days of windjammers and hoisting the sails. No carbon emissions there.

Boambee John
Boambee John
March 5, 2024 2:04 pm

m0nty
Mar 5, 2024 1:21 PM
AWS plans massive 960 MW nuclear powered data center campus in Pennsylvania.

AWS bought an existing data centre which is powered by a nuke plant that opened in 1983. Calm down cowboy.

Get back to us when solar and wind can produce reliable, continuous, electricity, rain hail or shine, wind or no wind. for over 40 years and still be operating.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
March 5, 2024 2:05 pm

I think I’ll defer to the knowledge and experience of Digger and Top Ender on any matters relating to the Navy and ships at sea.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
March 5, 2024 2:07 pm

Properly managed, Australia would long-since have had full-cycle nuclear industry; running through Uranium mining and processing, manufacturing and exporting fuel elements, and processing and storing domestic and returned waste. On the back of this, we would have nuclear generation, nuclear engineering capability, a host of ancillary industries, and nuclear power effectively subsidised by an export industry.

We don’t; largely because of Cold War CND considerations, politically unmanaged uncertainty, and the historic availability of cheap electricity generated by conveniently located mine-mouth coal-fired power stations.

Rolling forward 50 years. Given the current dominance of low-trust in government, institutionally entrenched interests, almost unlimited environmental lawfare, reactivism, economic nihilism, dis/misinformation, and legally-backed magical thinking, the prospect of ever rekindling a nuclear industry is obscure – and absolutely zero in practical terms without bi-partisan support.

Peter Dutton is being variously condemned and commended in the media for “courage” in advancing a plan for a nuclear future for Net Zero Australia. The details of Dutton’s ideas are not yet clear (apparently a detailed and ‘fully costed’ proposal is going to Shadow Cabinet next month), although from public statements it appears likely to be based on Small Modular Reactors and full-scale nuclear generation located on the sites of closed coal-fired power stations.

What is abundantly clear however is that, far from embracing the issue as a topic ready for sensible public debate, the Albanese Government is salivating at the opportunity to tear Dutton down in a fiery political car crash.

The message for Dutton therefore is: make no technical mistakes in whatever you put forward for the punters to consider. Any loose ends will be pounced on and a conga line of well-credentialled experts will be summoned forth to pronounce on the terrifying, naïve, dangerous, and unworkable Coalition policy position. You will have dissembling knaves from Albanese and Chalmers, through Bowen, to Wong pointing to ‘respected international authorities’ confirming that the Dutton Coalition is not fit to govern.

Unfortunately, at this stage in the game, it’s looking worryingly as though the Coalition policy is being cooked up on political magical thinking rather than mainstream technical process.

Specifically, the technicalities of nuclear power-station site location are absolutely not the same as locating a coal-fired power station. Geotechnical, hydrological, environmental, and geographical considerations are entirely different – just ask the UK which has spent nearly 20 years wrestling with new and brownfield locations for its own nuclear strategy. In particular, most of the existing fleet of Australian power stations are located well away from abundant (ie ocean/tidal estuary) cooling water.

Similarly the UK’s own expert deliberations suggest that SMR’s and AMR’s require pretty much the same licencing and site considerations as full-scale projects. They’re absolutely not ‘off the shelf’, casual, drop-in, no-regret nuke substitutes.

Given the unfolding disaster of renewables, Australia desperately needs a mature technical debate on the place for nuclear generation. What it doesn’t need is an inexpert mess on the carpet, particularly not one which leads to validating the unsustainable position we are in.

I hope I’m very wrong about this and Dutton actually produces a rallying cry that rises above the composition of the next Parliament. And not a half-arsed 43-page ‘plan’ with coloured diagrams that dies at the hands of Emeritus Professor Somebody, Bowen, and the Canberra commentariat.

(Brain dump rant – sorry.)

Roger
Roger
March 5, 2024 2:11 pm

China’s Premier Li will not speak to foreign journalists after this year’s ‘Two Sessions’ meeting, where he announced a GDP growth target of 5%.

Officially, China’s economy grew by 5.3% in 2023, but analysts suggest 1.5% is closer to the mark.

In a rare moment of candour, Li told delegates reaching the target will “not be easy.”

Top Ender
Top Ender
March 5, 2024 2:20 pm

Anyone who wants to understand the changeover of guns to missiles in warships is encouraged towards the following:

Ian Inskip’s Ordeal by Exocet: HMS Glamorgan and the Falklands War

Sandy Woodward’s One Hundred Days: Memoirs of the Falklands Battle Group Commander

and

Sharkie Ward’s Sea Harrier over the Falklands.

All three were there and wrote about the sea/air/missile war very well. I was so impressed by Admiral Woodward’s book, when made to read it as a neophyte naval bloke, that I wrote to him – and was surprised to get a very nice letter all the way from the UK.

JC
JC
March 5, 2024 2:20 pm

Officially, China’s economy grew by 5.3% in 2023, but analysts suggest 1.5% is closer to the mark.

In a rare moment of candour, Li told delegates reaching the target will “not be easy.”

They’re full steaming manufacturing hoping that can get them out of the mess. I doubt it. For instance, they’re currently flooding markets with EVs apparently.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
March 5, 2024 2:22 pm

Dr My Le Trihns case involves her prescribing Ivermectin and is going to be interesting as she alleges regulatory body made up complainant.

Hope she wins big time as they have persecuted her enough

Roger
Roger
March 5, 2024 2:22 pm

Given the unfolding disaster of renewables, Australia desperately needs a mature technical debate on the place for nuclear generation.

RMIT adjunct boffin Alan pears today claiming renewables will be so cheap in future that nuclear won’t be able to compete.

More wind & solar, batteries & pumped hydro (“diverse energy storage”), more energy efficient buildings and appliances and, if all that fails, “demand management” will lead us to the sunlit uplands where electricity will be too cheap to metre.

Apparently, the author devised the energy star rating for appliances, which makes him an expert, I’m sure.

I fear that’s about as technical as it will get.

JC
JC
March 5, 2024 2:22 pm

Fatboy.

The State of the Union is coming up. Do you think Dementia can run a speech for a full hour without completely rooting it up?

I think he can condense it to about 10 mins, with the rest of the hour taken up by clapping from the Demonrats.

What do you think?

JC
JC
March 5, 2024 2:24 pm

Rooster, who’s Dr My Le Trihns?

Can you link it please as it sounds interesting?

Kneel
Kneel
March 5, 2024 2:24 pm

“In other words, yes, if you read the Constitution literally, it does empower the states to do radical things like disqualifying an insurrectionist (see: Shelby County) without requiring Congressional legislation, but because that insurrectionist controls key state legislatures, enforcing a literalist interpretation would lead to a crisis.”

There is also the argument that the 14th amendment doesn’t apply to the President.
It enumerates several positions, but explicitly NOT the president or vice president – this makes sense, because the offices it does list are elected offices where the electorate is in a single state (eg, member of congress, federal senator etc), while the president is elected on a national level. So no state can unilaterally elect an insurrectionist in order to destroy the union, but the entire electoral college can, since it is representative of the entire country.
Like much of the US constitution, it is designed to protect the republic, not democracy per se, and to pit the various arms of government against each other, with the view that each arm will jealously defend and keep what power it has – better that the government fights internally over who has what power, than gangs up on citizens with much less power and creates tyranny.

Entropy
Entropy
March 5, 2024 2:26 pm

Don’t coal stations need a heap of water ( coal washing, cooling)?

Vicki
Vicki
March 5, 2024 2:28 pm

She is an Aussie GP who fighting the medical associations re vaccine mandates.

Rossini
Rossini
March 5, 2024 2:30 pm

Vicki
Re your power bill.
Try turning all electrical appliances off .
Check to see if your meter is still running!

shatterzzz
March 5, 2024 2:33 pm

I recall reading that when “smart” meters were introduced into the UK there were all sorts of anomalies in electricity bills.

I’ve had a smart meter (AGL) for at least 3 years, probably longer, never noticed any anomalies .. The bills keep going up tho not from extra usage but price hike(s) the gummint sez aren’t a problem …. trust Luigi .. sure can …….!

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
March 5, 2024 2:36 pm

JC
Mar 5, 2024 2:20 PM
Officially, China’s economy grew by 5.3% in 2023, but analysts suggest 1.5% is closer to the mark.

In a rare moment of candour, Li told delegates reaching the target will “not be easy.”

They’re full steaming manufacturing hoping that can get them out of the mess. I doubt it. For instance, they’re currently flooding markets with EVs apparently.

Have you seen this clip? It’s faarkin mad!

Serpentza:

China is Throwing Away Fields of Electric Cars – Letting them Rot!

Tom
Tom
March 5, 2024 2:41 pm

The Hiden campaign is really good at politics. They’re saying Trump will act as a dictator and won’t leave after 4 years in office. They’re basically telegraphing they believe Trump will win in 24.

Remember how they cheated last time: They stopped the vote-counting in in five or so swing states around 10pm on November 3, 2020.

And, even though Trump went on to secure a record number of votes for a presidential election, the bloke who “beat” him (who hardly campaigned at all in 2020) ended up with even more votes than Barack Obama in 2007 – winning each of the swing states by a handful of votes, i.e., whatever it took to exceed Trump’s record tally.

I think a few old Obama campaigners running the Biden White House have figured out it will be difficult to pull off the same steal again as millions of Americans now realise what they get when the cheat they didn’t vote for ends up in the White House implementing policies they didn’t vote for.

With Trump’s polling now through the roof, the DNC will have to do more than cheat in a few swing states to win in 2024.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 5, 2024 2:42 pm

Lawyers clean up as Brittany Higgins, Linda Reynolds begin mediation
Brittany Higgins in Perth on Tuesday, to meet face-to-face with Linda Reynolds as part of a court-ordered mediation.

By paul garvey
Senior Reporter
2:28PM March 5, 2024

Brittany Higgins is facing off with her former employer Linda Reynolds in mediation rooms inside Western Australia’s Supreme Court in a final attempt to avoid a defamation trial.

Ms Higgins and her fiance David Sharaz arrived at the David Malcolm Justice Centre in Perth’s CBD on Tuesday morning ahead of a day of scheduled mediation talks with Senator Reynolds.

The former defence minister launched a defamation action against Ms Higgins and Mr Sharaz over various social media posts by the pair. Ms Higgins was a staffer in Senator Reynolds’ office at the time she alleged she had been raped by fellow staffer Bruce Lehrmann.

Ms Higgins and Mr Sharaz have returned to Australia from France for Tuesday’s mediation, with Ms Higgins telling reporters on her way into court that she believed the process would be conducted “in good faith”.

Both sides have enlisted high-profile legal representatives for the matter.

Ms Higgins is being represented by Sydney silk Nicholas Owens SC, the same lawyer who oversaw Nine’s successful defence against Ben Roberts-Smith. Legal sources told The Australian that the Ben Roberts-Smith success had helped drive a step-change in Mr Owens’ fees, with the barrister estimated to now be charging clients between $13,000 and $18,000 a day.

Ms Higgins is also being represented by prominent Melbourne lawyer Leon Zwier, who would be expected to charge corporate clients between $1200 and $1300 an hour but who is thought to be charging Ms Higgins a discounted rate.

Senator Reynolds, meanwhile, is represented by Perth defamation lawyer Martin Bennett, who sources estimated would charge around $10,000 to $11,000 per day.

Mr Sharaz is being represented by Perth lawyer James MacLaurin SC – who in his younger days trained under Mr Bennett – at an estimated cost of $8000 to $10,000 a day.

Including the costs of business class flights and accommodation for the interstate legal representatives, the total lawyer fees are expected to come to between $50,000 and $70,000 for Tuesday alone.

Overseeing the mediation is registrar Danielle Davies, with input from Supreme Court judge Marcus Solomon.

Ms Davies has a reputation in Perth legal circles for managing to resolve seemingly intractable disputes through mediation.

“She would easily be the best mediator in WA, if not nationally,” one legal source told The Australian.

“If she can’t settle it, no-one can.”

Justice Solomon, meanwhile, has repeatedly urged the parties to find a way to avoid the matter going to trial.

Last year, he told the parties’ lawyers that a protracted trial would come at a financial and human cost.

“I’ve spoken before about the desirability for this matter to be settled and I’ve not shifted one iota from that view,” Justice Solomon said last November.

Should the parties fail to reach an agreement during the mediation, a trial is likely to take place in July.

Senator Reynolds, who earlier this year announced that she would retire from politics at the next election, recently received an apology and a $90,000 settlement from the ACT government over accusations against her by former chief prosecutor Shane Drumgold.

She also reached a settlement late last year with publisher HarperCollins and Australian Financial Review journalist Aaron Patrick over statements in his book Ego: Malcolm Turnbull and the Liberal Party’s Civil War.

Vicki
Vicki
March 5, 2024 2:43 pm

Dr My Le Trihns

Rather – I think her prosecution relates to prescription of Ivermectin.

Indolent
Indolent
March 5, 2024 2:44 pm

The Duran

Fear and panic grips UK establishment

The downside here is that Galloway is antisemitic. Otherwise it would be hilarious.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
March 5, 2024 2:49 pm

Entropy
Mar 5, 2024 2:26 PM
Don’t coal stations need a heap of water ( coal washing, cooling)?

Coal washing is done at the mine site, or not at all. Some power station somewhere in the world may a liar out of me, but no Australian power station operates a coal preparation plant.

Cooling is the key use. The efficiency of the steam cycle is critically dependent on the temperature differential of the water in the system. It is possible to use dry heat exchangers (effectively huge radiators) and cooling towers similar to coal fired power stations are widely used. However, where possible, nukes use ‘once only’ cold water exchange to ensure maximum efficiency.

Gaining 3% or 4% extra output makes a big difference on the economics of a capital heavy project – plus temperature control of the reactor is a critical safety issue.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 5, 2024 2:49 pm

Daily Mail. Hope she’s wearing knickers.

Brittany Higgins touches down in Australia in a $1,300 dress and sweeps into a courtroom to confront Linda Reynolds – flanked by her fiancé David Sharaz wearing a knitted Ralph Lauren tie

Brittany Higgins and David Sharaz arrive in Perth
They wore designer outfits to mediation sessions

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
March 5, 2024 2:52 pm

What Rossini said re electrics to the house. Then try a bit of an elimination diet, turning one item on after another to gauge usage. Good luck finding the culprit, there must be something out of whack.

Indolent
Indolent
March 5, 2024 2:57 pm
JC
JC
March 5, 2024 2:58 pm

I think a few old Obama campaigners running the Biden White House have figured out it will be difficult to pull off the same steal again as millions of Americans now realise what they get when the cheat they didn’t vote for ends up in the White House implementing policies they didn’t vote for.

With Trump’s polling now through the roof, the DNC will have to do more than cheat in a few swing states to win in 2024.

Tom

Have you seen what Nate Silver, a leftie, has said? I think he’s someone who doesn’t hide from the truth. His polling analysis suggests that 10% of Hiden’s voters are now going to vote for Trump. That is, 10% of 2020 Dementia supporters are not moving undecided. They’ve decided to vote for Trump. That’s how bad it’s getting for the dumb, crooked pos in the White House. By the way, he’s always been immensely stupid.

I suspect a good number of those voters are black males too.

Out of all the demonrat voters, I dare say black males are the least brainwashed out of them all.

Carpe Jugulum
Carpe Jugulum
March 5, 2024 2:59 pm

How long would it take to train an operating crew for a missile system, even if it were available, up to war standard

My brother was an ETW his missile course in the states went for 2 years, 6 months in San Diego and 18 months in Boston

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
March 5, 2024 2:59 pm

The State of the Union is coming up. Do you think Dementia can run a speech for a full hour without completely rooting it up?

That seemed to be the point behind the Poot’s 30-minute off-the-cuff exposition to Tucker Carlson on the history of Russia. ‘Look at me, I can produce a complicated narrative without notes. Him? Possibly his name, on a good day.

Indolent
Indolent
March 5, 2024 3:00 pm
John Brumble
John Brumble
March 5, 2024 3:00 pm

Yeah, Vicki. My old fuel pumps have been pumping accurately for 50 years and those damn rev’nu officers come along with their new test equipment and claim they’re wrong.

Must be the new equipment that’s wrong.

Some of dem be 5G too… and we all know about dat 5G.

Kneel
Kneel
March 5, 2024 3:06 pm

“Don’t coal stations need a heap of water ( coal washing, cooling)?”

Cooling – depends if they are near a body of water or not. If close to one, they can pump water through as a giant “heat sink” (although there are rules on how hot the “exhaust” water can be for obvious reasons – ask the local fishermen, who will be certain to know where this warm water is dumped into any lake). Those without access to such a heat sink can use “cooling towers” (the “chimney” is the tall thin tower, the “cooling tower” is the short, fat one – “tall” vs “short” are relative here). Although you can see massive amounts of water vapour pouring from these, in reality they only “exhaust” about 10% of the secondary cooling loop water this way – over 90% of the “steam” condenses on the inside of the cooling tower.

Washing – depends if it’s a “black” or “brown” coal designed boiler. Much less water required for washing if it’s a “brown coal” boiler (obviously). Either way, most of this can be (and is) recycled by simply filtering it.

Also, most coal plants keep several to many days of coal on site, and this needs to be both compacted and “watered” to prevent it catching fire spontaneously (especially in summer!). This is hard to recycle, as much simply evaporates, while the rest is captured in a pool of “coal mud”. Like the “ash dam”, this takes longer to recycle because most of the “filtering” is done by allowing the particulates the “settle” out over time, then draining off the “surface” water.

BTW, coal ash from a power station is re-used too – filler for concrete used in roads (freeways), an abrasive in toothpastes and polishes etc. More uses than you might think…

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
March 5, 2024 3:08 pm
Indolent
Indolent
March 5, 2024 3:11 pm

This is rather reflective of what Bret Weinstein was saying.

Tucker Carlson on talking to Snowden in Moscow | Lex Fridman Podcast Clips

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
March 5, 2024 3:11 pm

Good stuff from Chaz.

If you can’t fight, run away. No loss of pride for doing so. It’s called self preservation.

Big bloke here got a shock.

=====

Steve Inman:

Cornfed Fred vs Chaz

JC
JC
March 5, 2024 3:12 pm

Thanks so much Mole and it was very helpful to understand what it was that the Rooster was trying to convey. I was hoping he would post the link. 🙂

Boambee John
Boambee John
March 5, 2024 3:12 pm

Top Ender
Mar 5, 2024 2:20 PM
Anyone who wants to understand the changeover of guns to missiles in warships is encouraged towards the following:

Ian Inskip’s Ordeal by Exocet: HMS Glamorgan and the Falklands War

Sandy Woodward’s One Hundred Days: Memoirs of the Falklands Battle Group Commander

and

Sharkie Ward’s Sea Harrier over the Falklands.

All three were there and wrote about the sea/air/missile war very well. I was so impressed by Admiral Woodward’s book, when made to read it as a neophyte naval bloke, that I wrote to him – and was surprised to get a very nice letter all the way from the UK.

While on the Australian Defence Staff in London in the mid-1980s, one of the British officers I had dealings with was (then) Commodore JFTG (Sam) Salt. Physically short, a mental giant. And a true gentleman. His regular appearances on any TV show about the Falklands, in video taken after HMS Sheffield was abandoned, and probably while he was still pouring seawater out of his boots, made him readily recognisable.

m0nty
m0nty
March 5, 2024 3:14 pm

Given the unfolding disaster of renewables, Australia desperately needs a mature technical debate on the place for nuclear generation.

It really doesn’t.

Solar is cheap, quick and clean. Nuclear is none of those things, except maybe the last one if you ignore the potential for the next Chernobyl.

Dutton has successfully distracted you lot from chewing over the disaster that was Dunkley and the obvious failure of his Trumpist strategy to move the electoral needle, so job done from his point of view.

It doesn’t take much to distract you. You lot just love a Lost Cause like nukes. You’ll pontificate endlessly about how you are technically right and everyone else is just doing it wrong, and everyone should follow you to the Promised Land of Libertarian Paradise… and you will continue to be ignored.

m0nty
m0nty
March 5, 2024 3:19 pm

It is pertinent to note that a lot of nuke power stations are built on islands.

What do you reckon in Australia would be good locations? Coode Island? Goat Island? Rottnest? Three-eyed quokkas, grinning away while they irradiate nearby children. How about one in the middle of the Phillip Island raceway.

Indolent
Indolent
March 5, 2024 3:19 pm
Zafiro
Zafiro
March 5, 2024 3:20 pm

Newport power station would pump warmed water into the Yarra thus creating renowned fishing spot The Warmies.

I grew up very close to it in the ’70s. My brother landed a 20lb Snapper there one night. It used to get packed out. I remember lots of wogs with their reel-less bamboo “wog poles” etc.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 5, 2024 3:20 pm

My brother was an ETW his missile course in the states went for 2 years, 6 months in San Diego and 18 months in Boston

Way back when, one of the ouens did a missile course in San Diego. Course started at 0800 hours, but overseas students weren’t admitted until 0815. It later emerged that the first fifteen minutes were occupied singing the national anthem, and reciting the pledge to the flag, and it wasn’t unknown for those from overseas to get flippant…

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
March 5, 2024 3:21 pm

Fiona Willan reporting for Daytime Sky appears to chide the Libs for not putting up a woman for the safe seat of Cook.
Look, sweety, the branch gets to vote on such things. You know – vote?

Kneel
Kneel
March 5, 2024 3:23 pm

“Three-eyed quokkas, grinning away while they irradiate nearby children.”

Grow up M0nty – you are exposed to more radiation on a single long-haul commercial air flight than you are by living next door a a nuclear power plant for a whole year.
We’re talking about reality, not The Simpsons.

JC
JC
March 5, 2024 3:24 pm

Fatboy

Modular nukes will make it to market soon enough. There’s no hurry as the idea of a climate emergency is laughable. Modular nukes will collapse the cost of electricity and make plastic panels and windmills a laugh a minute.

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
March 5, 2024 3:27 pm

I’m getting very tired of the left tactic (this includes media talking heads) of questioning proponents of nuclear power “where these things should go”.
They should go where power stations have been located for generations, much of last century and into this one – and not needing vast new expenditure on transmission lines like the scattered wind farms and solar farms will.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
March 5, 2024 3:28 pm

Solar is cheap, quick and clean.

And for some reason turns off for half the day.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
March 5, 2024 3:30 pm

The only “daytrip” this douchenozzle should ever have had was the eight o’clock walk to the hangman.

Julian Knight’s ‘day trip’ to court.

By LILY MCCAFFREY
5:28PM March 4, 2024

Hoddle St killer Julian Knight enjoyed a day out of Port Phillip Prison on Monday to represent himself in the Federal Court in Melbourne’s CBD.

Knight, who is suing the Defence Force Ombudsman in relation to a claim for reparation, appeared in person at the Federal Court and dressed in a black suit and white shirt.

The mass killer, who was escorted into the court with two armed prison officers, took his place at the bar table, where he addressed Justice Catherine Button on his claim for almost two and a half hours. The two prison officers sat behind him for the duration of the proceeding.

It’s believed Knight was driven 25km from Port Phillip Prison in the outer western suburbs of Melbourne under the security of Corrections Victoria. Victoria Police confirmed it had no role in Monday’s security operation.

The Australian believes Knight, who has made several personal appearances in court as he has pursued various claims over the years, was driven in a secure van into an underground carpark of the court and had no interaction with the public during his day out of jail. The court deemed it necessary for him to appear in person so he could attend the hearing of the case against the ombudsman.

Throughout his submissions to the court, Knight — who is likely to die behind bars over the 1987 massacre that claimed the lives of seven people, after special legislation was passed to deny him parole — read from and referred to various documents in at least three large tabbed white folders which he brought into court in a large plastic bag.

But he told Justice Button that being in prison meant he didn’t have access to a law library and that his limited access to the internet meant he had to rely

on secondary, rather than primary case sources in some cases.

“Unfortunately your Honour I’m at somewhat a disadvantage, being in custody,” Knight said.

Knight, who had a shaved head and moustache, looked pensive through his black rimmed glasses as he listened to the Defence Force Ombudsman’s submissions.

Knight took handwritten notes and followed along with his own materials while counsel for the Defence Force Ombudsman, which was represented by the Australian Government Solicitor, addressed the court.

“You’ve heard a very long exposition of facts and background and so on but most of it will not be relevant to what your honour is having to decide,” counsel for the Defence Force Ombudsman told the court after Knight’s submissions.

On 29 February, Justice Button made an order to the General Manager at Port Phillip Prison and police that Knight be brought before the court “for the purpose of appearing at the hearing.”

“…the prisoner is to remain in the custody of those officers and police officers acting under this order until the prisoner is returned to the prison from which the prisoner was removed or is released by order of the court,” the order reads.

The case stems from a decade old rejection of Knight’s application for reparation from the Defence Abuse Response Taskforce over claims he suffered bastardisation at the Royal Military College Duntroon.

While the taskforce found Knight’s account “plausible”, a later ministerial directive meant payments could not be made to people charged with serious crimes.

Knight is suing the Defence Ombudsman because it declined to investigate the matter after it had already been rejected by the taskforce.

After listening to the parties’ submissions, Justice Button made orders for Knight to file further written submissions and an amended originating application which the Defence Force Ombudsman will respond to.

The remainder of the matter will likely be determined on the papers.

Knight, who has previously been declared a vexatious litigant, told the court he was keen for the matter to be finalised.

“It’s gone on for far too long,” he said.

Diogenes
Diogenes
March 5, 2024 3:35 pm

Solar is cheap, quick and clean.

Really? The insurance company my son works for have thousands of smashed panel from storms 5 or 6 years ago still being stored. Can’t recycle them, not bury them because if the nasty chemicals

Vicki
Vicki
March 5, 2024 3:35 pm

They should go where power stations have been located for generations, much of last century and into this one – and not needing vast new expenditure on transmission lines like the scattered wind farms and solar farms will.

This is what husband says ….it is so bleeding obvious….

Zafiro
Zafiro
March 5, 2024 3:42 pm

This is what husband says ….it is so bleeding obvious….

Summink about Nuclear power plants needing to be situated near water. Latrobe Valley etc not much chop in that regard.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
March 5, 2024 3:45 pm

Moonfall

Worst movie ever made, or just shite??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFsQqN7tF18

Complete with redneck mongs saying “lets roll” as they yee-haw and fire “assault rifles” at heros kids to get something they could have gotten at the same place anyway.

Its a car crash movie, all the “blockbuster” bits but so badly assembled its a “how not too” for making a movie.

Lysander
Lysander
March 5, 2024 3:46 pm

Solar is cheap, quick and clean.

the salesman who came to my house offered $15K for panels (no battery). Hardly “cheap.” You can pay monthly but if you use that payment method you need to buy new panels by the time your payments are done.

He also wasn’t aware that the amount of rare earth metals to be used in panels across the world would constitute a mining hole ten times that of Everest and very heavy refining to actually extract them (usually coal or gas powered). That, and they never disintegrate so aren’t recyclable.

But plastic straws are banned….. seriously.

Peter Greagg
Peter Greagg
March 5, 2024 3:50 pm

Thanks to who ever posted the Youtube link to the Colin Hay Special a few days ago.
Watched it with my wife last night.
Very enjoyable.

flyingduk
flyingduk
March 5, 2024 3:50 pm

Anyone who wants to understand the changeover of guns to missiles in warships is encouraged towards the following:

Ian Inskip’s Ordeal by Exocet: HMS Glamorgan and the Falklands War

Sandy Woodward’s One Hundred Days: Memoirs of the Falklands Battle Group Commander

and

Sharkie Ward’s Sea Harrier over the Falklands.

Agree 100%, all 3 are on my shelves, along with more than 20 others, I would add ‘Wings of the Malvinas’ by Santiago Rivas for an Argentine viewpoint…

Top Ender
Top Ender
March 5, 2024 3:50 pm

Congrats BJ on meeting Sam Salt!

Indolent
Indolent
March 5, 2024 3:51 pm
Top Ender
Top Ender
March 5, 2024 3:53 pm

Knight, who has previously been declared a vexatious litigant, told the court he was keen for the matter to be finalised.

I’m sure there are quite a few people who would be happy to finalise matters for Knight.

cohenite
March 5, 2024 3:54 pm

I see dickless has been active sliming shit stains around the joint. I’ve already explained the SCOTUS Judgment about Trump being not on the ballot and Amendment 14(3). States can’t do it and there must be a insurrection as decided by congress. It was a relatively simple Judgment by SCOTUS in response to Colorado activist judicial drivel.

Trump was not fined by letitia and engonon for years of over inflation of asset values but because they corruptly used Executive Law 63:12 which can only apply to fraud where there is an identifiable victim and a quantifiable loss. Since there were no victims and everyone made money in their dealings with Trump the corrupt fat kunt and the bony weird Judge had to make up bullshit about over valuation which was also a lie.

Let’s hope the milko’s kiddies wake up soon and dickless has to return to doing what he does best: wiping little arses.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
March 5, 2024 3:55 pm

Anybody got any ideas. Brave browser, W10 pc, closed Brave, when I opened it again the page comes up to the left of the screen with only about 15mm showing. All I can do is close it. I’ve deleted the app and reinstalled it to no avail.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
March 5, 2024 3:57 pm

What a kindly fellow m0nty is. He knows pretty much bugger all about pretty much everything. Yet does that discourage him from offering his ignorant opinions about technical matters he’s incapable of understanding? No it does not. It doesn’t even slow him down. He is anxious to put us all straight by parroting off the standard uninformed garbage as if he’s worked out some deep truths all on his own. He’s figured out that it’s what politicians do, so why can’t he?

cohenite
March 5, 2024 3:59 pm

Solar is cheap, quick and clean.

Great piss taking dickless. Some of your best drivel.

Gabor
Gabor
March 5, 2024 4:02 pm

Vicki
Mar 5, 2024 1:35 PM

Vicki,

At this very moment husband is on phone to electricity provider who is insisting we have used an amount of electricity over a week equivalent to a small factory!!!

He is negotiating but operator is insistent we used it.

I’m sure you thought of it, but in case you haven’t, every time you leave the premises take a picture of the meter and then again when you return.
For more proof email them to the supply co. and make sure you have an alibi not being there.
I know it’s still not enough, as they can say someone else may have been the occupant/user but better than nothing.

At least you would know yourself if electricity was used as recorded.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
March 5, 2024 4:03 pm

3 Brazil nuts or a handfull of almonds are enough for the radiation detectors go off in a nuclear facility. That is how sensitive they are.

Winston Smith
March 5, 2024 4:21 pm

Vicki

Mar 5, 2024 1:35 PM
At this very moment husband is on phone to electricity provider who is insisting we have used an amount of electricity over a week equivalent to a small factory!!!
He is negotiating but operator is insistent we used it.

Many years ago, neice got an astounding bill for water use in Coffs Harbour. They’d gone on holidays for a month. Got the neighbours to keep an eye on the house.
After they got back, the water bills started to climb to ridiculous levels.
They had the blokes out to check the meter and they found a new connection running along the fenceline to – you guessed it – the neighbours house! They swore it had nothing to do with them and their new pool being filled with stolen water. Husband went ballistic and called the coppers in. They dug the line out into the neighbours front yard. Neighbours swore blind they were innocent.
At the Court hearing – yes it went that far – the bloke said as a newcomer to the country he had ‘misunderstood’ the law. (Didn’t understand that stealing someone’s water was illegal?) Didn’t do him much good, but because the niece hadn’t allowed him to save face, he took revenge. Rocks in the night from passing cars, salt? over the front lawn, they ended up hounding the niece out of the home.

Makka
Makka
March 5, 2024 4:24 pm

They aren’t coming in fast enough. The Chief Pervert is flying them in from other countries.

Biden administration ADMITS flying 320,000 migrants secretly into the U.S. to reduce the number of crossings at the border has national security ‘vulnerabilities

A lawsuit reveals Biden’s CBP is refusing to disclose airports where it is flying undocumented aliens from other countries
It comes amid a continued flow of migrants over the southern border
Biden’s expansion of the CBP One app allows migrants to apply for asylum in their country, be flown to the U.S. and given two-years to obtain legal status

Winston Smith
March 5, 2024 4:24 pm

Barking Toad

Mar 5, 2024 2:05 PM
I think I’ll defer to the knowledge and experience of Digger and Top Ender on any matters relating to the Navy and ships at sea.

I think you’ll find Boambee John is an equal in the class, Barking Toad.

Dot
Dot
March 5, 2024 4:26 pm

Imagine being technically correct about something that has complex physics, chemistry, engineering, legal issues & is becoming more popular, particularly with younger voters and environmentalists.

“But Chris *Australia’s Greatest Dickhead*# Bowen disagrees with you…”

It’s funny because if Shorten phased in his electrification policy with nuclear power he could have won that election.

#Incapable of scientific inquiry, economic analysis and only with an IQ fitting of being a gopher in a union office or union ran savings & loans. An increasingly fat and useless prick too.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
March 5, 2024 4:32 pm

Peter Greagg
Mar 5, 2024 3:50 PM
Thanks to who ever posted the Youtube link to the Colin Hay Special a few days ago.
Watched it with my wife last night.
Very enjoyable.

You’re welcome.

Speedbox
March 5, 2024 4:35 pm

Diogenes
Mar 5, 2024 3:35 PM
Really? The insurance company my son works for have thousands of smashed panel from storms 5 or 6 years ago still being stored. Can’t recycle them, not bury them because if the nasty chemicals

Indeed. I haven’t been to one of the warehouses, but I saw a photo a couple of years ago which showed old panels stacked on rack upon rack up to the roof. Thousands of the bloody things and this was just one warehouse.

In addition to those damaged during storms by hail, fallen tree limbs etc, the panels have a finite life and it’s currently estimated that about 1,000 tonnes of solar panels are discarded annually in Australia. As each panel weights around 20kgs, that’s some 50,000 panels a year.

Recycle? Sure, but only about 5% of all panels are recycled in Australia and the process is not anywhere near cost efficient which means that panels incur a disposal levy of around $14-20 each. The rarely acknowledged truth however, is that panels supposedly destined for recycling are often exported to countries where cheap labour (children/modern slavery) do the dirty work.

Disposal of solar panels is a ‘sleeper’ problem at present meaning that most people have no idea about the issues and mounting stockpiles – yet solar panel disposal must (?) become a significant problem as three million homes currently have solar (and growing at 150,000 homes per year) not to mention the vast commercial arrays. Even if we assume a ‘standing start’ from today, in twenty years from now tens of millions of panels will reach the end of their useful life and need to be disposed of.

What the hell we are going to do with them is anybody’s guess but we can safely presume that land fill will not be permitted (as currently), and continued export to 3rd world countries will become impossible.

Then, there is the issue of EV batteries……

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
March 5, 2024 4:45 pm

Elon is on fire on Twitter.

Elon Musk

@elonmusk
This administration is both importing voters and creating a national security threat from unvetted illegal immigrants.

It is highly probable that the groundwork is being laid for something far worse than 9/11. Just a matter of time.
….
Elon Musk

@elonmusk
Google and Facebook/Instagram have a strong political bias. Hard to say if they were the deciding factor in any given election, but they certainly put their thumb on the scale.

That video of Google execs holding an all-hands struggle session after Trump won was disturbing.
….
Elon Musk

@elonmusk
Being attacked by 60 Mins is like being gummed by a very old man who forgot to put in his dentures – gross, but ineffective
….

m0nty
m0nty
March 5, 2024 4:50 pm

I’m getting very tired of the left tactic (this includes media talking heads) of questioning proponents of nuclear power “where these things should go”.
They should go where power stations have been located for generations, much of last century and into this one – and not needing vast new expenditure on transmission lines like the scattered wind farms and solar farms will.

How dare the lumpen arc up over upwind nuclear installations? Shut up and breathe in the freedom fumes, peasants.

You know what Dutton is not doing? Rolling out any policies to solve the immediate cost of living crisis.

I look forward to this mythical housing policy he will release soon, allegedly. That will be a laugh.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
March 5, 2024 4:51 pm

In this case I think somewhere in the vicinity of at least $100,000 a year lump sum would be a good starting figure.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-03-05/terry-irving-wrongfully-convicted-compensation-justice-system/103500798

Cant have justice unless the state is “punished” for getting it wrong as well.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
March 5, 2024 4:54 pm

I think you’ll find Boambee John is an equal in the class, Barking Toad.

Noted. Thanks Winston.

Makka
Makka
March 5, 2024 4:55 pm

m0ron is back getting paid by the line again. Handsome Boy has mobilised his online minions to salvage his flagging polls and put a brake on the swing away from the Green/lLeft.

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