Open Thread – Mon 20 May 2024


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feelthebern
feelthebern
May 21, 2024 4:49 am

Janet A in the Oz today is heart breaking.
Further demonstrates why Drumgold should never been in the role.

feelthebern
feelthebern
May 21, 2024 4:58 am

Britain’s WORST EVER tank battle: The Battle of Gazala 1942 BATTLESTORM Documentary

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBTFj6uGYr4

TIK’s Gazala documentary.
I haven’t watched it yet as it’s 2hr 50mins long.
Unlike the 51 part Stalingrad series, Gazala is all in the one video.

KevinM
KevinM
May 21, 2024 5:13 am

feelthebern
May 21, 2024 4:49 am

Janet A in the Oz today is heart breaking.

Further demonstrates why Drumgold should never been in the role.

Any chance of posting at least part of the article?
Ta.

feelthebern
feelthebern
May 21, 2024 5:14 am

Got the green slip renewal overnight.
Only an 18% increase versus the 30% increase last year.
See, inflation is slowing.

KevinM
KevinM
May 21, 2024 6:14 am

KevinM
May 21, 2024 5:13 am

feelthebern
May 21, 2024 4:49 am

Any chance of posting at least part of the article?

Never mind. it’s all right, found it.

The Bungonia Bee
The Bungonia Bee
May 21, 2024 6:19 am

Daily Mail 29 May 2021.
Thousands of uniformed Hamas fighters parade in Gaza after one of many previous ceasefires. The MSM won’t want to show this sort of thing at the moment, or recall how many rockets were fired from Gaza into Israel in an indiscriminate fashion and without care who they hit.
Nor will they want to hark back to the dancing in the streets when the two towers went down in New York. Political Correctness has ensured that all western democracies now have sizeable populations of muslims, complete with hate preachers, now seen doing their traditional anti-Jewish things.
No, the media will concentrate on the silly ICC court in The Hague.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9631041/Thousands-armed-Palestinian-Hamas-soldiers-parade-Gaza-anti-Israel-rally.html

KevinM
KevinM
May 21, 2024 6:27 am

The Bungonia Bee
May 21, 2024 6:19 am

Daily Mail 29 May 2021.

Sorry to say, I see no good coming out of this, Cassy has a very good reason to worry.

The Bungonia Bee
The Bungonia Bee
May 21, 2024 6:36 am

Tucker Carlson’s latest guest (a couple of days ago) gives a history lesson of putinesque depth about the gradual infiltration of universities, the FBI and the CIA starting back around 1940. He goes on to say that anything is possible later this year, and that the Dems are well organised in the various perfidious schemes; they will never accept a Trump victory.
It has been my impression for some time that the USA isn’t salvageable due to the number of bad actors at every level of society.

rosie
rosie
May 21, 2024 6:59 am
Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
May 21, 2024 7:06 am

“Greens demand seat on National Defence Committee.” Headline from Sky News.
We need to defend against Greens, not indulge them. They would wipe out every industry that keeps us afloat, given time.

rosie
rosie
May 21, 2024 7:07 am
shatterzzz
May 21, 2024 7:08 am

How woke & gutless can so called “law” authorities get ..? Since when do you need ‘arrest” warrants to deal with terrorists .. You don’t adopt meaningless bits of paper you deliver meanful lead, of the bullet type ……
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/other/hamas-who-are-the-group-s-leaders-as-icc-seeks-arrest-warrants/ar-BB1mIFAJ?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=0de273b038964ba1aa3b5b84ed03be40&ei=16

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
May 21, 2024 7:13 am

The heartbreaking article by Janet Albrechtsen andStephe Rice the ‘legal system’ in the ACT is no longer fit for purpose. Repeal the Commonwealth Act which created this spitoon of diabolical green leftist putrescence – there is no justice in the ACT – rank incompetence is all. (Lengthy read)

ACT prosecution bungle hands child sex predator Stephen Mitchell get-out-of-jail early card

EXCLUSIVE

By JANET ALBRECHTSEN

COLUMNIST

and STEPHEN RICE

NSW EDITOR

8:49PM MAY 20, 2024

Convicted child sex predator ­Stephen Leonard Mitchell will walk free from jail years earlier than his original sentence because of a disastrous error by ACT prosecutors who had been specifically warned of the problem but – ­according to Mitchell’s victims – were so preoccupied with the Lehrmann rape case they failed to act on the advice.

In a recent conference with Mitchell’s devastated victims, then-acting director of public prosecutions Anthony Williamson – who was not the director at the time of the bungled case – ­acknowledged the DPP office had failed victims, including with miscommunications and allocation of resources against the background of the Lehrmann case.

Last year Mitchell was ­sentenced to 13 years and five months in prison after pleading guilty to sexual offences against six girls between 1994 and 2008.

But due to errors by the ACT Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions and the trial judge, the sentences for the agreed plea deal with the former rock climbing coach were based on the current maximum sentence of 25 years when they should have been based on the seven-year maximum sentence at the time of offending.

The bungle means the serial pedophile is certain to have his sentence significantly reduced at a hearing in August, potentially ­creating a precedent for other ­offenders to exploit.

The botched prosecution has shattered Mitchell’s victims, who have told The Australian they would never have agreed to a plea deal if they had been aware of a sentencing glitch that would substantially lessen his jail time.

Two of the women agreed not to pursue more serious charges of sexual penetration against Mitchell on the understanding that his prison term would be based on the maximum 25-year sentence available.

Sophie Vivian, who was just 11 when Mitchell began grooming her, had made a full statement to the police detailing acts of penetration that were never put ­before the judge.

“The problem was that we as victims were given false information by the public prosecutors, and we based our decisions on that false information,” Ms Vivian told The Australian.

“There was a lot of pressure placed on us by the prosecutors to accept those plea deals. The way it was sold to us was – this is really great, it’s a really serious charge. It has a 25-year maximum, which is the highest in the ACT, other than murder.”

The women were told they should accept the deal because it would mean they wouldn’t have to go to trial and be cross-examined about their traumatic experiences.

“But that 25-year maximum was repeated multiple times in those conversations, like, don’t worry, it’s a really big sentence, he’s f..ked – those were the words we were given.”

DPP knew before

The ODPP has now acknowledged that it was “a significant error that should not have happened”, but was “attributable to numerous people, and which was perpetuated through multiple steps in the process”.

“It appears to have occurred as a result of a gap in the internal knowledge in the DPP at the time,” prosecutor Emma Roff wrote to one victim in an email on May 8 this year.

However, The Australian has seen an earlier email sent by crown prosecutor Katie McCann acknowledging the DPP was made specifically aware of the sentencing problem in May 2022, following a case known as Ware, in which the correct sentencing had been applied under new ­legislation.

In the email Ms McCann states that “the effect of the decision was brought to the attention of the ­Director, Deputy Directors and Sexual Offences Unit on 2 May 2022 via email. The former Director (Shane Drumgold) proposed to raise the issue with the ­Attorney-General (Shane Rattenbury). I am unaware whether this was done.”

That was six months before the women agreed, in November 2022, not to give evidence about the more serious charges of penetrative sex, believing the 25-year maximum sentence was on the table.

“The ODPP tried to make out like this outrageous outcome was essentially the judge’s fault, or else it was a problem with the legislation,” Ms Vivian says.

“Well now they have fessed up, and the reality of course is that – if the correct charges had been laid, and if victims had been given correct information by the ODPP and supported by the ODPP to give their evidence, then Stephen Mitchell would most likely have received a significant and fair ­sentence, even under the old ­legislation … that was a pretty big screw up.”

‘They failed us’

Another of Mitchell’s victims, Odette Visser, told The Australian she would never have accepted a plea deal based on a seven-year maximum sentence.

“My offender said he would plead guilty if I dropped the claims of penetration. The DPP said that he would still be sentenced under the 25-year maximum if I dropped that part of my complaint.

“I thought about how going to trial would affect me and how unwell it would make my parents, having to hear about my childhood rape. I chose to protect myself and my loved ones and accept the plea deal. After all, he was facing three counts under the 25 years. How much did I need to bury this guy? It wasn’t worth burying my parents too.”

Ms Visser believes Mitchell may be re-sentenced to just 12 months for his crimes against her.

“It’s devastating. The DPP traded away his most serious ­offending, and now that we are being dragged back to court, it’s hard to know what we got for ­accepting that course of action.

“I don’t want responsibility for this mistake to fall on overworked junior prosecutors. This went through the DPP leadership and they failed us.”

Ms Visser says she was horrified when she realised the DPP was aware of the sentencing issue in the Ware case before she and the other victims were encouraged to accept the plea deal.

“They knew that this decision in the court would change everything for victims … They understood the significance of the situation. They called the leadership in to discuss it. They resolved that they needed to alert the ­Attorney-General that this could change everything. And then nothing happened.”

‘On the back burner’

Worse, Ms Visser says, was the ­realisation this had happened in the lead-up to the Lehrmann trial, confirming suspicions they spelt out to The Australian last year that the Brittany Higgins/Lehrmann case had ­devoured the time, focus and ­resources of the DPP.

Mr Drumgold, the then-DPP, took the unusual step of personally prosecuting the Lehrmann case – the only rape trial he ever conducted as director – while far from the television cameras, a ­series of much less senior prosecutors were negotiating the deal with Mitchell’s lawyers that would allow him to escape the most egregious charges against him.

“When I saw that that happened in May 2022, it doesn’t take a genius to figure out what they were more distracted with, and six child victims were put on the back burner again,” Ms Visser says.

“We made ourselves available at every hour, for hours for days, for weeks, and we were continually put on hold for another matter. And six child victims are now getting called back to court again.”

‘An utter debacle’

Ms Vivian believes Mr Drumgold “was distracted, not overseeing important cases that he should have been”. “The problem was an utterly dysfunctional office led by a distracted – and now disgraced – director,” she says.

Lawyers have told The Australian that chronic underfunding of the DPP’s office by the ACT Labor-Greens government meant prosecutors were “just hopping from one case to another” and had overlooked what should have been obvious to them.

Several of Mitchell’s victims were invited last month to a meeting at the DPP offices in Canberra, called to explain the mistake, a visit that reminded Ms Visser of the struggle to get attention on their case in the midst of the Lehrmann trial. “It was nice not to have to push past staff glued to the windows watching Brittany walk past,” she says.

During the conference Ms Vivian referred to the Sofronoff Board of Inquiry’s finding of gross misconduct by Mr Drumgold in the Lehrmann case, saying: “I don’t feel like there has been any recognition of how much that circus impacted our case directly … it was a shit show … an utter debacle.”

According to a file note of the meeting taken by a DPP lawyer, Mr Williamson responded: “I ­acknowledge and accept that there have been failings in office in how matters progressed – miscommunications and re-allocation, background of Lehrmann and Board of Inquiry. I recognise that and it shouldn’t have ­happened.”

Mr Williamson apologised to the women for what had occurred. “He seemed genuinely sorry but he’s the wrong person apologising. He was not the director at the time,” Ms Vivian says.

She would like an apology from Mr Drumgold.

“I was a victim in a very serious child sex offence case before the ACT Supreme Court as he was ­director. There were multiple points where he could have at least had oversight over such an important case, being the director. “

Ms Visser says that at a meeting with the new ACT DPP, Victoria Engel, appointed this month, Ms Engel said “she suspects there was a culture of rubber stamping matters in busy times”.

“It went through the sex crimes prosecutors, then it went to deputy directors, then it went to the director, and all of them signed off on it,” Ms Visser says. “It seems like nobody even really read it.”

Ms Visser is disappointed Ms Engels wasn’t willing to contact any of the DPP lawyers who had carriage of their case to ask what had happened, but instead had simply agreed that in-house training needed to be improved.

The two victims disagree training was the problem.

“I think the problem was that the entire place was in a shambles at the time,” Ms Vivian says.

“The police and prosecutors were at total odds. They weren’t co-operating.

“We had three different prosecutors, and by the time we got the third one it certainly felt like the case had only landed on his desk five minutes ago because there was all kinds of information about it that he wasn’t aware of.

“I did my bit as a victim – I feel like it’s my job to turn up and to tell the truth. And it’s their job as prosecutors and lawmakers to make sure that the sentence fits the crime. They didn’t do their bit.”

Empty promises

The women have been told they cannot bring a new complaint, regardless of the error by the prosecution, as the plea was negotiated by the defence in good faith.

Mr Rattenbury, the Attorney-General, has ruled out any retrospective amendment to the law to change the outcome in the Mitchell case, but said the government would consider whether any “clarifying amendments” could be made in the future.

Ms Visser and Ms Vivian would like Ms Engels to hold a formal ­review of her department to examine the impact of the Lehrmann case and what went wrong with their case.

“Victoria Engel was really ­fantastic in her response to us but a promise that it’s never going to happen again that isn’t backed up by a proper inquiry into ­exactly what happened and whose fault it was is pretty empty,” Ms Vivian says.

“Shane Drumgold’s involvement in that case took him away from analysing a case which held six child victims,” says Ms Visser. “That might’ve been the right call, but we need to ask that question.”

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
May 21, 2024 7:14 am

That guest on Tucker’s show was J. Michael Waller, and his book on Big Intel is available from Amazon.
Big Intel: How the CIA and FBI Went from Cold War Heroes to Deep State Villains: Waller, J. Michael: 9781684513536: Amazon.com: Books

lotocoti
lotocoti
May 21, 2024 7:15 am

From the last bastion of honest journalism.

one old bruce
one old bruce
May 21, 2024 7:16 am

‘When my life is through
And the angels ask me to recall
The thrill of it all
I will tell them I remember
Yooooooooo’

thanks for the songs Frank Ifield.

Roger
Roger
May 21, 2024 7:17 am

Electricity users face a heightened risk of blackouts during peak ­demand in NSW and Victoria this summer, with the energy market operator forced to bid for ­emergency supplies amid delays in new transmission lines and ­renewables projects. The prospect of holiday power outages during a cost-of-living crisis will ramp up the pre-election contest over Labor’s vision to transform Australia into a ­renewable-energy superpower, overhaul fuel-efficiency standards for new cars and pour billions of taxpayer funds into emerging ­industries.

One week after the budget handed $300 power bill rebates to every household, a new energy market update says reliability gaps have deteriorated in the two most populous states and will decline through the decade in South ­Australia.

The forecast will raise concerns over a choppy transition to greener power as the bulk of ­Australia’s coal power stations are retired this decade, and the ­government proceeds with plans to deploy 32 gigawatts of renewable and clean dispatchable capacity by 2030.

The Australian Energy Market Operator blamed the worsening outlook on a series of delays [ROTFLMAO – Roger], including a year-long lag in delivering the EnergyConnect power cable between NSW and South Australia and a similar delay to the state’s Central West Orana transmission line.

Multiple hold-ups to battery, hydro-storage, wind and solar projects have all added to the tighter outlook while the shutdown of gas and diesel generation in South Australia will lead to a supply squeeze in Victoria.

The revised outlook from AEMO lands amid heated debate over the role of gas, which has split the Labor Party and ignited a fresh political row with the Greens.

‘Blackout risks: A nation lost in energy transition’
Joe Kelly Perry Williams The Australian May 20, 2024

Little wonder Albanese is considering an election before Christmas.

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rosie
rosie
May 21, 2024 7:20 am

Iran now set to replace their hereditary monarchy with a new hereditary monarchy.
If fingers are pointing, they might consider their direction.
https://twitter.com/GLNoronha/status/1792235869795213546?t=R167sIGcULQa6Bk-ZeCF6Q&s=19

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
May 21, 2024 7:21 am

Um, Mr Bowen, AEMO would like to have a word with you…

Energy operator warns of summer blackouts (Sky News, 21 May)

The energy market operator is warning of blackouts this summer as Labor transforms the country into a renewable energy superpower.

Delays in transmission lines, hydro, wind and solar projects have increased the possibility of reliability gaps as states move forward with the shutdown of gas and diesel generation.

Maybe that’s why there are rumours of an early election in Autumn: get it out of the way before the summer blackouts start to happen.

shatterzzz
May 21, 2024 7:22 am
rosie
rosie
May 21, 2024 7:27 am

“she suspects there was a culture of rubber stamping matters in busy times”.”
What about the time spent pursuing equal pay with judges and organising renovations?

Roger
Roger
May 21, 2024 7:28 am

Iran now set to replace their hereditary monarchy with a new hereditary monarchy.

Iran is in deep shiite.

caveman
caveman
May 21, 2024 7:38 am

“Musk to build microfactories for mRNA producer”

Sounds like the New World Order is taking shape, you will be forever sick you just don’t know it yet- here have a vac.

shatterzzz
May 21, 2024 7:42 am

A a recovering alcoholic (44 years, Aug 1980) I fail to see the difference between gambling & alcoholism .. If your caught in either spiral the only answer is YOU .. No one forces you to do either ..!
In my case, I simply lost control of an “enjoyment” and the downhill trip to sleeping rough & sampling “meths” was fairly rapid .. Fortunately, for me nature intervened, 10 years late, and a Cirrhosis of the Liver diagnosis meant .. quit or die .. I made the quit choice but could just as easily gone the other way .. in other wordz .. my own decision made the difference ..!
Very few, if any, quit either alcohol or gambling cos gummint issues warnings .. we don’t read/watch current affairs .. we drink/gamble .. it consumes your life & wallet .. it’s your reason to struggle thru another day …..
For 44 years I’ve seen & read all the don’t drink paraphanalia they trot out but there is still the, occasional, day that I ponder “should I, one won’t hurt” before opening a can of soft drink & muttering, “F**k off” ………….! .. The trick is to never be fooled into forgetting the word, RECOVERING, cos you ain’t ever cured …….!
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-05-21/lotteries-scratchies-increasing-availability-normalises-gambling/103858088

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
May 21, 2024 7:44 am

Thanks for posting the Janet A/Rice article Tinta @07:13am.

It highlights the ineptness of the Office Of Public Prosecutions in the ACT lead by the incompetent Drumgold and senior staff. And, ultimately, the useless socialist town council, in particular its Attorney General, Rattenbury.

This matter was shuffled into the background while the distraction squirrel of sending Sofronoff to a kangaroo court got the headlines.

rosie
rosie
May 21, 2024 7:45 am

RNA drugs to treat cancers have been around for a while and apparently can give hope to the hopeless.
It shouldn’t be a reflective mRNA bad.

Vicki
Vicki
May 21, 2024 7:50 am

Very good article in Quadrant Online on the supine behaviour of conservatives in today’s world & the need to grow a spine. Will post it later if others can’t access it.

It is certainly true that conservatives need to be more vocal & the response to The Voice shows this can be done. But I also fear that it is so late that it will be a ferocious struggle. Multiculturalism & the extremes of identity politics have almost sealed our fate.

rosie
rosie
May 21, 2024 7:51 am

Raisi was the monster who conducted ‘five minute trials’ before sentencing political prisoners to death, by firing squad or slow strangulation by crane.
He has now enjoyed his final five minutes.

Many more young highly visible opponents of the regime executed in 2022 and more recently.
The smouldering resentment of those who reject living under an Islamic theocracy may eventually be kindled into a civil war.

shatterzzz
May 21, 2024 7:52 am

Why is the Federal gummint putting “our” money into a sporting deal ..?
I, like many other folk, enjoy thugby but it is a, private sector, enterprise played for money & profit .. the fans come 14th in the queue .. sooooo, why is Luigi backing a PNG team with “our” money ..?
We, apparently, have a, yearly, Budget so the gummint can cry poor and not fund the necessities of life like housing & rising food prices .. yet the odd few $hundred million for a “footie” team in another, bloody, country is no probs just like a coupla new planes at around $400million so the PM can holiday in style are no problem either .. real life problems .. stuff ’em …!
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-05-21/govt-to-secure-deal-for-papua-new-guinea-nrl-team/103871426

KevinM
KevinM
May 21, 2024 7:57 am

Vicki
May 21, 2024 7:50 am

Very good article in Quadrant Online on the supine behaviour of conservatives in today’s world & the need to grow a spine. Will post it later if others can’t access it.

It is certainly true that conservatives need to be more vocal & the response to The Voice shows this can be done.

It wasn’t the conservatives that done it, it was us the people.

Vicki
Vicki
May 21, 2024 7:58 am

Nice to see new contributors to The Cat. This is a tribute to the strength of the interactions & opportunity for discussion. And thanks to you DB!

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
May 21, 2024 7:59 am

AEMO blackout scare is simply a cover story for more nefarious planning to push the multi-national investment scheme they’ve cooked up with the energy corporates – the extension of mining type rights to renewable projects is on the books. Labor governments will be drafting legislation to give companies an automatic right of entry and the use of private property for projects.
It’s those awful squatters that are holding up our renewable super power future.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
May 21, 2024 8:05 am

I should add
Note the continual use of “traditional owners” in any Labor policy.
This isn’t just a tip of the hat but a primer to paint freehold title as a lesser right.

johnjjj
johnjjj
May 21, 2024 8:11 am
JC
JC
May 21, 2024 8:18 am

The smouldering resentment of those who reject living under an Islamic theocracy may eventually be kindled into a civil war.

Hope the CIA and Mossad help things along by arming proxies. “Proxy payback” can be a real bitch at times.

Roger
Roger
May 21, 2024 8:21 am

It shouldn’t be a reflective mRNA bad.

We shall see. There is research being done at present as to whether the genes targeted by mRNA become oncogenic.

Be that as it may (and that’s a big thing), what Musk doesn’t mention is that he is in a financial partnership with the German government on this (and has been since covid) which is a part owner of CureVac, and it appears he may have been using algorithms to suppress criticism of this on X/Twitter.

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Cassie of Sydney
May 21, 2024 8:24 am

It is a good piece in Quadrant, Vicki. Here’s a snippet….

How has all this come about? It’s simple really – conservatives have been too nice for too long to those who should have been recognised as their enemies, who should have been vigorously fought until roundly defeated. The modern Left has used complacent conservatives’ own values and virtues against them, taking good manners and civil discourse to be signs of weakness. Conservatives have simply been too tolerant, too lenient, too accommodating and too forgiving. We’ve been so weak in our convictions, so polite, that we’ve fallen victim to our own decency. Look, for instance, at Their ABC and the succession of Coalition ministers who declined to make the national broadcaster honour its chartered obligation to be fair and unbiased.

Many here, including myself, have been saying the above for years. And sadly, the ship has sailed on many issues, particularly the great climate swindle. It’s too late.

Oh and I note that the likes of Morrison and Hunt, if they aren’t trying to rewrite history now, particularly over Covid and their complicity in lockdowns and vaccine mandates, are trying to airbrush their complicity. Morrison’s sins are particularly egregious, and I don’t believe he warrants any forgiveness whatsoever. I’ll say this about Albanese, Labor and the left in general, they don’t spit on and stab their on in the back, unlike Morrison and the Liberals. Here is a list of those who Morrison stabbed in the back…

Bettina Arndt
Fraser Anning
George Christensen
Craig Kelly
Christian Porter
Andrew Laming
Alan Tudge
George Pell
Liberal party voters

and there are many, many more.

I hear that Morrison is now complaining about how a rape allegations was weaponised against him and his government. Well, yes, it was obscene how the allegation was politicised. But boohoo to Morrison, all he had to was to pick it up and throw it back at Labor and the left but no, instead he, through sheer political incompetency and cowardice, allowed the allegation to strangle him and his government. The only person he should be blaming is himself, for being supine, craven, and cowardly, and perhaps if he is looking for true redemption, then he should be man enough to apologise to the above.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
May 21, 2024 8:24 am

Iran’s Prez now Saudi’s king?

Saudi Crown Prince Abruptly Cancels Japan Trip As ‘Health Concerns’ Surround King Salman (21 May)

Salman is in the hospital and is being treated for lung inflammation. MbS’ now canceled visit to Japan was scheduled from May 20 to the 23rd. According to more via Reuters:

Earlier on Sunday, King Salman underwent medical tests at the royal clinics at Al Salam Palace due to “high temperature and joint pain”, the Saudi state news agency said.

Lung infections in a fragile 88 year old are extremely serious.

Roger
Roger
May 21, 2024 8:26 am

AEMO blackout scare is simply a cover story for more nefarious planning to push the multi-national investment scheme they’ve cooked up with the energy corporates

Which is a sub-plot of the bigger story, which is that we will never be able to build the infrastructure required at the pace required to replace coal in the time frame governments have signed up to. It is not logistically possible.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
May 21, 2024 8:27 am

“freehold title as a lesser right”?
Oh you sweet fool.
You will own nothing, and they will be happy.

Pogria
Pogria
May 21, 2024 8:36 am

Not surprising to read that George Clooney’s Beard is leading the charge to arrest Benyamin Netanyahu.

I wonder how many outfit changes will be reported in the press?

Roger
Roger
May 21, 2024 8:43 am

The modern Left has used complacent conservatives’ own values and virtues against them…

Good manners and civil discourse are not the problem; exhibits A & B:
Margaret Thatcher and Ronald Reagan, the two most successful conservative politicians of modern times.

The bigger problem was that conservatives believed the progressive-left was a problem that could be managed rather than a radical ideology that had to be defeated.

Howard’s “broad church” Liberal Party is probably the best example in our context. As Robert Conquest predicted while the 1st Cold War was still underway, any organisation that is not explicitly right-wing will sooner or later become left-wing.

[There are some parallels here with how, in 1933, the conservative German political class thought Hitler could be managed.]

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Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
May 21, 2024 8:48 am

One of the ICC officials seeking to arrest Netanyahu is none other than lefty Lebanese muslim Mrs Amal Clooney.

George Clooney’s Wife, Amal, Involved in ICC Warrant Against Netanyahu (20 May)

That is a very bad look, and is not going to go down at all well with the 79% of Americans who support Israel in this war.

Cassie of Sydney
May 21, 2024 8:52 am

Good manners and civil discourse are not the problem; exhibits A & B:
Margaret Thatcher and Ronald Reagan, the two most successful conservative politicians of modern times.

Both Thatcher and Reagan knew how to throw it back, also neither dumped on their own. You see, both had strong spines.

The bigger problem was that conservatives believed the progressive-left was a problem that could be managed rather than a radical ideology that had to be defeated.

Maybe, although I think both Thatcher and Reagan knew how poisonous progressive-left ideology was and both were very forthright in how they dealt with it. But the problem with broader conservatism is that it was always too focused and it remains too focused on the economics rather than the culture.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
May 21, 2024 9:04 am

Major push on regarding safety of teens on social media and restricting their access. Naturally this will require proving ID on your phone or Ipad etc. Of course this may involve adults having to do the same thereby taking away internet privacy/anonimity.

Roger
Roger
May 21, 2024 9:14 am

Maybe, although I think both Thatcher and Reagan knew how poisonous progressive-left ideology was and both were very forthright in how they dealt with it.

That was my point – they were the exceptions.

Roger
Roger
May 21, 2024 9:19 am

…the problem with broader conservatism is that it was always too focused and it remains too focused on the economics rather than the culture.

Yes; in fact the cultural subversion began as long ago as the 1920s. WWI was a decisive turning point in that regard.

Roger
Roger
May 21, 2024 9:29 am

Yes; in fact the cultural subversion began as long ago as the 1920s. WWI was a decisive turning point in that regard.

It’s been a while since I read it (late 1980s?), but Modris Ekstein’s The Rites of Spring shows how high culture was subverted in the immediate post-war years. The themes of rejection of norms, rebellion and a return to primitivism eventually seeped down to popular culture.

Zippster
Zippster
May 21, 2024 10:02 am

DNR at 38 years of age

Dr. John Campbell

DNACPR (DNR)
44. They asked Jamie five times to sign a DNR, a do not resuscitate document and he kept telling them no.

The following day (28th March) they asked him again and
it was five times in total that they asked him to sign a DNR.

There were two other occasions and he repeatedly said they would need to speak to me.

46. Jamie got upset enough about this that he called me; he wanted me to reassure him that I wouldn’t agree to it. He was terrified.

He never signed one and there were never any conversations about DNR before.

They eventually tested him for Covid. Jamie was initially told that the result was negative but then the doctor came round to see him later that day and said he had tested positive. He said the doctor thought he was over the worst of it.

My friend works in the hospital, and she said that there had been e-mails and a leaflet sent out to say who would and wouldn’t get treatment so I knew Jamie wouldn’t get it.

53. On 4th April Jamie facetimed me; he looked really well. He was up and dressed. Jamie’s oxygen must have been reduced because I had no trouble hearing him. He was laughing and joking away. I thought he must have been getting better and I would get him home soon. I asked if he was getting out and he said he would ask the doctor.

Bereavement.

57. She asked if I understood that Jamie was
going to die. I said absolutely not as he was sitting up in bed joking yesterday.

60. They gave Jamie midazolam to help him sleep. I went home but asked them to phone me and I would come straight back as I didn’t want him to be alone.

61. I got a call the next morning (8th April 2020) to ask me to go back to the hospital. They said, ‘it was time.’ When I arrived, there were five nurses in the room with him in case I didn’t arrive in time.

62. Jamie was in and out of consciousness most of that day; he was scared because he was having trouble breathing. He kept grabbing onto the bed rails frantically and shouting to me as he struggled to breath.

The palliative care team came in and asked if I would like them to give him something to make him more comfortable; I agreed. They rotated the midazolam with morphine.

63. Jamie passed away at 11.29pm that night. Before Jamie passed away, we got married. He had been asking me and up until he became really ill, I had always said no not until you are better. I thought it was the last thing I could have done for him. He knew what was going on, a nurse took a video, and they got rings from the lost and found.

64. My mum got the chaplain, and we were able to get married in the hospital.

Aaron
Aaron
May 21, 2024 10:05 am

ICC war crimes claim.

A slur to paint both sides as terrorists.

The last “War crime” should be to salt the earth and say we meant it. “Never Again”.

A tribe of barbarians that breeds hate from birth needs to learn once and for all time.

rosie
rosie
May 21, 2024 10:13 am

I thought Mrs Clooney claimed to be Palestinian.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
May 21, 2024 10:14 am

Farmer Gez
 May 21, 2024 7:59 

The Abscess may have given inspiration on a blocking tactic.
They were interviewing a mong who was turning his farm over to generate carbon credits
In it he expressed one of his blocks had been the bank had to approve as the loan holder to ( from memory),” any significant land use changes which could impact the properties ability to service its debt/ generate revenue”.

Might it be worth a letter to the banks asking if bird mincers and alienation from vast tracts of property would trigger this?

Muddy
Muddy
May 21, 2024 10:15 am

Random Historical Fact.

On the 21st of May, 1945, at Kapooka, NSW, twenty-six (26) sappers of the Royal Australian Engineers were killed in an explosives accident.

The men were in an underground bunker receiving instruction at the RAE Training Centre, 9 miles south-west of Wagga Wagga, when at about 2:45 p.m. an explosion killed 24 men instantly, with two dying of their wounds soon after, and one lucky man surviving. An instructor who had been in the process of returning to the dugout, also survived.

One hundred pounds of explosives were inside the bunker at the time (substantially more than the normal amount), but a formal inquiry following the accident – the worst training accident in the Australian Army’s history – could not ascertain the exact cause of the disaster, beyond speculation.

The men were buried in the Wagga Wagga War Cemetery after approximately 7,000 Wagga residents had attended the funeral procession.

[Source: ‘Kapooka Training Accident’ by David Mitchellhill-Green in After the Battle, Number 145].

Postscript: Fourteen (14) men were killed by a mortar shell in a training accident in W.A. in 1943. A much larger number of soldiers were killed or died of wounds at the beginning of September, 1943 in Port Moresby, while waiting to emplane for Operation Postern, the two-divisional assault on Lae, New Guinea.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 21, 2024 10:20 am

Why Brittany Higgins’ $2.4m compensation settlement could be protected if Linda Reynolds wins defamation case
Former minister Linda Reynolds could win her defamation trial against Brittany Higgins and still not see a cent, legal experts believe.

EXCLUSIVE
Legal experts believe Liberal Senator Linda Reynolds could struggle to recover her costs if she wins her defamation case against Brittany Higgins because a $2.4 million compensation payout may be “protected” if the former political staffer is forced into bankruptcy.
The legal question may turn on a section of the Bankruptcy Act and whether or not damages for personal injury or a wrong done to the bankrupt are recoverable in these circumstances
Senator Linda Reynolds is facing steep legal bills. Her lawyer says the politician has been forced to remortgage her house to fund legal representation.
It follows Senator Reynolds’ legal attempts to “freeze” Ms Higgins assets, seek legal advice on the status of her French home and gain information about a trust established to manage the payout.

H B Bear
H B Bear
May 21, 2024 10:21 am

Reading Judith Sloan in today’s Paywallian. She quotes a Grattan Institute figure that only 0.5% of construction workers are on temporary visas. Using my (admittedly non representative sample of one, being a 5. storey residential apartment block being built opposite for the last two years) now the work is primarily internal with scaffolding removed a few months ago, nearly all workers are Asian and at a guess Chinese. Of course, nowadays this tells you nothing about their immigration, residency or citizenship status.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
May 21, 2024 10:23 am

DNR at 38 years of age

Yeah, the inevitable consequence of the following story is you have to do something about aging people.

Suddenly there aren’t enough babies … and the whole world is alarmed (Paywallian today)

The world is at a startling demographic milestone. Sometime soon, the global fertility rate will drop below the point needed to keep population constant. It will come with enormous economic, social and geopolitical consequences.

The push for legalizing, encouraging and finally enforcing mandatory euthanasia is the logical extension of this new eugenics. And it’s coming from the elites, they want the proles to be culled.

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Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
May 21, 2024 10:23 am

Albo: Here’s how ya do policy development – get into the hard hats and hi-viz, line up the noddies behind yez, and say it was all done while in opposition so we hit the ground running as soon as we get the treasury benches. That’s different to what the lacklustre opposition do – they make it up as they go along, always with the finger hovering on the Pause Button.

cohenite
May 21, 2024 10:34 am

As a point of interest 2 sets of Tom’s Toons were on page 1.

In other news there will not be another Tintin book. Hergé was working on another title, Tintin and Alph-Art, when he keeled over and his will had a clause that the series would end with him. Pity, in this woke era Haddock and the rest of them would rip and shred.

In more bad news, no release date for 1923 part 2 has been made.

It’s a pity we don’t have kick a politician in the arse rights in this dump.

Muddy
Muddy
May 21, 2024 10:44 am

Addition to my comment above re wartime accidents:

Casualties of the 2/33rd Australian Infantry Battalion from the accident at Jackson’s Strip on the 7th of September, 1943, where a fully loaded U.S. bomber aircraft plowed into a group of trucks containing Australians waiting to emplane for Nadzab, New Guinea, were initially: 16 killed, 46 died of injuries, and 83 hospitalised.

[2/33rd Inf Bn war diary Aug-Sept 1943].

(A number of truck drivers from the 158th Aust General Transport Coy were also killed).

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Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
May 21, 2024 10:51 am

TIME flies like a pregnant tranny.

His Pregnancy Came as a Shock. Florida’s Abortion Law Made It Harder (TIME magazine, 15 May)

Jasper never considered he might be pregnant. Despite the nausea, the stomach pain, the fatigue, the possibility never crossed his mind. He was about six months into testosterone therapy, a form of gender-affirming care.

Someone, it appears, needs to learn the birds and bees. And biology also, methinks.

(via Instapundit and Libs of TikTok, both of which have a genius for finding insane lefty stuff.)

cohenite
May 21, 2024 10:56 am

Another Hollywood POS out in support of the demented pervert:

Biden, After Revoking Trump’s Order Against ICC, Claims Outrage at ICC Warrants Against Israel (breitbart.com)

It might be easier to just list those actors in favour of Trump: here is the tiny lisy:

Full List of Celebrities Supporting Donald Trump Over Joe Biden (newsweek.com)

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
May 21, 2024 11:07 am

…we will never be able to build the infrastructure required at the pace required to replace coal in the time frame governments have signed up to. It is not logistically possible.

Equally importantly, it is not commercially possible.

The major power companies have been gifted a unique opportunity to defy the Laws of Finance 101 (for the time being) and achieve greater than utility returns for utility risk. Instead of chuffing out a dreary (but low risk) 9% ROE, the distorted and fully-gamed energy ‘market’ provides investment opportunities that allow well-managed utilities like Origin to achieve 16%+, and comparatively poorly managed companies like AGL 11%+.

Which is obviously reflected in share prices, investment decisions, and so on.

We are now at the point where the renewables fleet has grown to the size where, on a good renewables day, at periods of low demand, the NEM electricity price goes negative – ie generators are forced to drop power out of the system. This happens about 7% of the time (sealed section for wonks).

This is obviously a bit of a shit-show for renewables generators, because typically they can only operate for 25% of the time – which is necessarily lost when prices are bid down and out by their own excess generation. But, happily, thanks to their market gaming superpowers, they are presently able to make up any opportunity losses by racking the bid price up towards the ~$15,000/MWh price cap wherever possible.

The problem for Robber Utilities down the NetZero track is that the amount of renewables overbuild required to keep the lights on in the east coast system is so huge (3 or 4 times demand) that inevitably negative pricing will be a daily thing for 60%+ of each day – and the opportunity to reach cap pricing will be competed away. Or, alternatively, fantasy battery/hydro storage will arrive at eye watering prices and further distort the market in unknown ways.

The end result is that renewables investors are sitting back watching, rather than barrelling ahead with increasingly crap investment as apparently expected by the Bowen, AEMO, AMEC MasterPlan.

For rent seekers, blackouts are a business opportunity. A good shake of the tree to see what goodies fall out.

It’s a market thing; possibly invisible to Top Men.

Muddy
Muddy
May 21, 2024 11:08 am

Apologies for the never-ending postscripts, but there seems to be a time limit on editing.

Additional to my above post re the aircraft accident at Jackson’s Strip, Moresby, the 11 member crew of the U.S. liberator also died. They were carrying four 500lb bombs, three of which exploded in the vicinity of the marshaling yard containing the Australians, and 2800 gallons of fuel; a great number of those who died of their wounds were severely burned.

I think it important to acknowledge these accidents now and then, because those men who did not get a chance to show their mettle in combat deserve to also be acknowledged. Dependent on one’s unit and role in the same, the training prior to battle might provide almost as many hazards as service in a combat area itself.

cohenite
May 21, 2024 11:17 am

FMD:

CNN’s Tapper: Defense Scored ‘Stunning’ Revelation that Michael Cohen Stole Money from Trump Organization (breitbart.com)

That figures: cohen the lying scumbag is also a thieving scumbag. That jury is going to have to work very hard to convict Trump but I have confidence they can do it. The scumbag judge should have called a mistrial as soon as cohen admitted lying.

132andBush
132andBush
May 21, 2024 11:24 am

Roger
 May 21, 2024 8:26 am

AEMO blackout scare is simply a cover story for more nefarious planning to push the multi-national investment scheme they’ve cooked up with the energy corporates

Which is a sub-plot of the bigger story, which is that we will never be able to build the infrastructure required at the pace required to replace coal in the time frame governments have signed up to. It is not logistically possible.

Add to this the fact there’s not enough gas in the system to cover the future backup generation requirements (this assumes domestic usage of zero).

And they’re still importing more people.

cohenite
May 21, 2024 11:30 am

I’m a lawyer and the level of degradation and corruption of the legal process by the demorats and this judge, merchan, in particular is something I have never witnessed outside communist and tyrannical third world nations:

BREAKING: A Fuming Judge Merchan Runs Interference for Bragg, Shouts at Trump Defense Witness Robert Costello: GET OUT OF THE COURTROOM, NOW! | The Gateway Pundit | by Cristina Laila

What merchan says and how he behaves is un-fuking-believable.

JC
JC
May 21, 2024 11:32 am
Makka
Makka
May 21, 2024 11:39 am

 But the problem with broader conservatism is that it was always too focused and it remains too focused on the economics rather than the culture.

Spot on. Economics long term follows culture. This is how the left has wrecked our institutions- because conservatives abandoned that space and focused on the economy. The economy ebbs and flows with Govt changes. Culture sustains a nation over the longer term. Our cultural destruction has driven us to where we are now – a still bountiful country being ruined by Marxist culture.

JC
JC
May 21, 2024 11:50 am

We went out with a friend’s wife for dins this evening. I went for a quick slash, and on the way to the toilet, I noticed there was a picture of what would’ve been the owner, along with a couple of patrons. One of them was Michael Cohen of the lawfare fame.

I mentioned it when I got back to the table, and the friend said she had a story to tell us about Cohen. About a little over a decade ago, her son went to the same school as Cohen’s daughter. He’s a tall, good-looking kid, and she is supposedly very pretty. He asked her to be his date at the school prom. She had a pre-prom party at her place, and Dad Cohen was there. Before they left for the prom, “Mike” took the kid aside, told him to be very careful how he treated his daughter, and motioned to a holster gun that was hidden under his suit jacket. Nice dude. The kid was 17 at the time.
 

cohenite
May 21, 2024 11:59 am

JC
 May 21, 2024 11:32 am

Another one of Cronkite’s cute owls. This one is great looking.

You’re up early or late head prefect. Your link doesn’t work but no matter here is a real cute owl:

cute-owl-toned
JC
JC
May 21, 2024 12:01 pm

Cronkers, the link appears to work, but if it doesn’t, it here.

https://x.com/i/status/1792585153694285859

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
May 21, 2024 12:03 pm

Just further on the article by Janet A in the Oz about the inept, possibly corrupt, DPP Office in the ACT

Where was the smiling dyke public servant who trotted next to knickerless to court each day when these girls were left behind by the ACT “justice” system?

Too busy basking in the limelight of the cameras as was dumbgold.

Rattenbury should resign.

johanna
johanna
May 21, 2024 12:12 pm

Makka
May 21, 2024 11:39 am

 But the problem with broader conservatism is that it was always too focused and it remains too focused on the economics rather than the culture.

Spot on. Economics long term follows culture. This is how the left has wrecked our institutions- because conservatives abandoned that space and focused on the economy.

I don’t think it’s that simple.

For example, the Industrial Revolution wasn’t ‘following culture’ – in fact, it severely disrupted the prevailing culture, particularly in rural areas.

The relationship between economic and cultural developments is a subject for bigger brains than mine.

The only comment I feel qualified to make is that affluence has not been without cost, culturally and spiritually.

Zippster
Zippster
May 21, 2024 12:15 pm
johanna
johanna
May 21, 2024 12:21 pm

Barking Toad
May 21, 2024 12:03 pm

Just further on the article by Janet A in the Oz about the inept, possibly corrupt, DPP Office in the ACT
Where was the smiling dyke public servant who trotted next to knickerless to court each day when these girls were left behind by the ACT “justice” system?

Well spotted, Toad.

Here we have genuine victims of sexual crime languishing in the shadows while the boss was basking in the spotlight of a high profile case.

As calli astutely noted, this case is a tar baby.

Kneel
Kneel
May 21, 2024 12:26 pm

“The scumbag judge should have called a mistrial as soon as cohen admitted lying.”

He should have dismissed it with prejudice as soon as the prosecution rested its case without proving any crime had been committed, or even earlier when the prosecution failed to specify in its charging docs which felony was being “hidden” by Trump’s bookkeeping, or even why a bookkeeping entry marked “legal expenses” is inaccurate when repaying your lawyer for expenses he incurred performing completely legal work for you (getting the NDA).

Of course, the judge has so much TDS and is so left-leaning that he knows the ultimate result of any appeal Trump makes doesn’t matter, as long as that appeal happens after the election (and it almost certainly will) – as long as Biden and the Dems can call Trump a “convicted felon” during the election campaign, his job is done. It’s smearing Trump that matters, which is why said judge allowed Stormy to talk about Trump in his boxers (WTF that has to do with Trumps bookkeeping is a mystery to everyone).

Roger
Roger
May 21, 2024 12:26 pm

And they’re still importing more people.

I see QLD’s Boy Premier has backed Dutton’s immigration reductions.

He faces the people in October.

Imagine what the focus groups must be saying.

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JC
JC
May 21, 2024 12:27 pm

What were the “costs” living in the pre-industrial age? If you didn’t die young of an illness, there was a good chance a male, would’ve been murdered. Life was short, brutal and panicked. Anxiety ridden because if the weather wasn’t favorable, you and your family would’ve have gone hungry.Chronic long term hunger would be unbearable. Then there was life on the land.

Sure, there are costs living in the industrialized age, but life is softer and much more pleasant.

Makka
Makka
May 21, 2024 12:35 pm

For example, the Industrial Revolution wasn’t ‘following culture’ – in fact, it severely disrupted the prevailing culture, particularly in rural areas.

On the contrary, I think “culture” brought the industrial revolution into being , which delivered major productivity gains in agriculture as well.

My impression of the times was that there was great interest and discoveries in science, medicine technology along with innovation that was coupled with significant developments in finance and banking. The culture being the striving for progress and improving society across many levels. Capitalism certainly facilitated much of this.

Muddy
Muddy
May 21, 2024 12:40 pm

Sorry Dover.
I just misspelled my email address while submitting a reply to someone’s post.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 21, 2024 12:46 pm

The latest in the mythical Rainbow serpent vs the local real estate agent – the case has been adjourned, yet again. The learned judge needs more time to reach a decision. Words fail me, they honestly vooking do.

JC
JC
May 21, 2024 12:48 pm

Prior to around the 1860s, before it was medicalized, (by men incidentally) childbirth was a freaking holocaust with 1 in 3 women dying at birth.

There’s nothing nostalgic about the pre-industrial age. It was a freaking nightmare.

And then, there were the cultural patholgies of the time like drunkenness, extreme violence inside and outside the family. Most family relationships aren’t a walk in the park either.

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Boambee John
Boambee John
May 21, 2024 12:51 pm

With reference to the Janet A article on the shambles that is the ACT legal system, I look forward to the Louse Milligan (Seven nilagain) Four Corners episode expose and book laying it all out in detail.

Seriously, the Chief Minister (Barr, ALBGTP) and AG (Rattenbury, Slime) should go, as well as the judge who approved the plea deal, and every member of the DPP office with any direct input to the process.

I won’t hold my breath.

Kneel
Kneel
May 21, 2024 12:56 pm

“Life was short, brutal and panicked.”

Likely true, but one common misconception is that an average life expectancy of 40 means most people died around that age – and that’s just not true.
Do the math:
today: 100 people die, 90 in their 80’s or more, 10 earlier. average life expectancy is high 70’s at least.
then: 100 people die, 20 before the age of 2, 25 (more) before the age of 20 and the rest live to their 80’s or more, average life expectancy is low 40’s.

The great increase in life expectancy came from improvements for most of the population for basic sanitary practices (wash your hands before preparing or eating food, clean wounds with some sort of antiseptic and so on), which happened in the early 20th century. The rest came from anti-biotics and rapid access to modern medicines and medical techniques (if the nearest doctor – and therefore life saving treatment – is a day away or more, you are unlikely to survive critical injury, for example).

Roger
Roger
May 21, 2024 12:58 pm

The culture being the striving for progress and improving society across many levels. Capitalism certainly facilitated much of this.

The prominence of Calvinist Scots suggests their particular culture played a significant part in birthing the industrial revolution.

The political union with England was another factor.

JC
JC
May 21, 2024 1:02 pm

kneel

Life was painful. There was little relief for what is now considered day surgery. Imagine living with kidney stones and not being able to have anything done -even pain relief. Pain was an ongoing issue at the time, Arthritic pain for instance. Most adults went to bed totally drunk too.

JC
JC
May 21, 2024 1:17 pm
  • Most people that survived infancy and childhood lived into their sixties or thereabouts. Also, there looks to be a drop in life expectancy in England in the late 19thC.

I’m not so sure it was most people. Most people endure at least one illness these days that is eminently curable but wouldn’t have survived in those days.

Infection being one example.

Also, if you were sick, you still had to get up and go tend to the land manually or you and the family would go hungry.

We shouldn’t dismiss the modern world’s ability to extend the lives of children.

The issue in late 19th C Britain was personal and public hygiene, alcohol, diet and violence. There was a 60% rejection rate for males signing up for the boer war, due to diet.

JC
JC
May 21, 2024 1:40 pm

Define most. Put a number on it.

____________________

Presently, you have to choice of living in the pre-industrial age, which wasn’t a choice then. Many takers?

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Johnny Rotten
May 21, 2024 1:49 pm

Junior is correct.

Do you want to live in the Agrarian Age or the Modern Industrial Revolution Age?

Mind you, a lot of the ME would not know how to answer that as they are still living in the Medieval Age,

https://www.britannica.com/event/Industrial-Revolution

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Cassie of Sydney
May 21, 2024 1:59 pm

Prior to around the 1860s, before it was medicalized, (by men incidentally) childbirth was a freaking holocaust with 1 in 3 women dying at birth.

It still happens though now it is rare in the West, although no doubt death in childbirth is still common in third world countries. About fifteen years ago I worked in an office and we were sent an email telling us that our work colleague had died in childbirth. We were stunned, speechless. Dying in childbirth is not something we think will happen nowadays.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 21, 2024 2:01 pm
cohenite
May 21, 2024 2:01 pm

JC
 May 21, 2024 1:02 pm

kneel
Life was painful. There was little relief for what is now considered day surgery. Imagine living with kidney stones and not being able to have anything done -even pain relief. 

Deadwood: the kidney stone passing:

Deadwood – Al passes kidney stones (youtube.com)

Johnny Rotten
May 21, 2024 2:03 pm

The issue in late 19th C Britain was personal and public hygiene, alcohol, diet and violence. There was a 60% rejection rate for males signing up for the boer war, due to diet.

It didn’t stop Wellington from getting those Brits into the Army for the Napoleonic Wars at a shilling a day and loads of booze. Tough people then.

Johnny Rotten
May 21, 2024 2:04 pm

And there is always Kingston Town baby…………

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6EUNrAFHuM

Eyrie
Eyrie
May 21, 2024 2:06 pm

Dependent on one’s unit and role in the same, the training prior to battle might provide almost as many hazards as service in a combat area itself.

In three and a half years the US lost 15,000 or so airmen in accidents in training. About twelve per day on average.

Johnny Rotten
May 21, 2024 2:07 pm

If you want to see a quite marvelous film then get onto Ch 32 SBS World Movies – Guess Who Is Coming To Dinner?

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Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 21, 2024 2:09 pm

‘Admit they got it wrong’: Linda Reynolds at WA Supreme CourtSenator Linda Reynolds has arrived at WA’s Supreme Court for mediation in her defamation against her former…

By paige taylor

  • Indigenous Affairs Correspondent, WA Bureau Chief
  • 1:04PM May 21, 2024

Senator Linda Reynolds has arrived at the West Australian Supreme Court for mediation in her defamation case against her former staffer Brittany Higgins, saying it is time for the finance minister, the lawyer general and his department to “admit they got it wrong”.
Senator Reynolds paused outside the court on Barrack Street in the centre of Perth – a second attempt at mediation – and urged all parties to accept all of the findings made by Justice Michael Lee in his judgement in April.

“What I would like to say today is that I would like to commend Justice Lee on all of his findings,” Senator Reynolds said.
“And I think it is time that all parties in this accepts all of his judgments. And that includes finance minister, Attorney-General and the Attorney-General’s department.
“It’s time for them to admit they got it wrong.”
Justice Lee found that on the balance of probabilities Ms Higgins was raped by another of Senator Reynolds’ employees Bruce Lehrmann in Senator Reynolds’ ministerial suite in 2019 as she has long claimed.
“I consider it more likely than not, in those early hours after a long night of conviviality and drinking, and having successfully brought Ms Higgins back to a secluded place, Mr Lehrmann was hellbent on having sex with a woman he found sexually attractive,” Justice Lee said.
“In his pursuit of gratification, he did not care one way or another.”
However Justice Lee found that there had not been any political cover up after the rape.
This was the central plank of the story Ms Higgins participated in for The Project.
Ms Higgins received a $2.45m payout from the Commonwealth when Labor came to power.
Of that, $400,000 was for distress and humiliation suffered from alleged conduct during her employment.

local oaf
May 21, 2024 2:15 pm

“In three and a half years the US lost 15,000 or so airmen in accidents in training. About twelve per day on average.”

Dad went into the RAAF and after training went to Britain for active service in 1944.
After training here and in Canada, they’d lost 30% of their numbers before they even sailed for Britain.
It was just that hard to take young men from the streets and train them to fly bombers!

Black Ball
Black Ball
May 21, 2024 2:22 pm

FMD. Hun:

The Allan government has refused to rule out giving compulsorily acquired private property to Indigenous groups and establishing seats designated to Indigenous members in the Victorian parliament.

Treaty and First Peoples Minister Natalie Hutchins, who fronted the Public Accounts and Estimate Committee hearing on the state’s path to treaty on Tuesday, said a series of measures, including reparations, remained on the table.

Questioned about whether the government would rule out dedicating seats in the Victorian parliament for Indigenous people ahead of treaty negotiations later this year, Ms Hutchins said it was too early to determine what would be included.

“After 200 years of colonisation, where this state took away lands in the settlement, murdered people and took away culture and language we are not going to be ruling anything in or out as we go to the negotiation table in regards to treaty,” she said.

She, however, said that the idea was not one that Indigenous representatives had voiced their support for.

“That has not been an expressed desire that has been put to me by First Nations people,” she said.

“In fact, I think they think that our places of the lower and upper houses here are actually quite aggressive places that they would rather not be a part of.”

Ms Hutchins was also asked whether the government could hand private land that had been compulsory acquired to Aboriginal groups or other entities.

But she refused to directly answer the question.

“The focus that we have on Treaty is about building a new pathway going forward with Aboriginal people,” she said.

Ms Hutchins was pressed on whether a $41m commitment in the budget to “enable increased Traditional Owner access to water and decision making in water management” would be spent on buying water for Indigenous groups.

But the senior minister was again unable to provide an answer.

“We don’t actually determine the percentage of funds that will be used to buy water,” she said.

The question was then handballed to Water Minister Harriet Shing.

Shadow Minister for Aboriginal Affairs, Peter Walsh, said the lack of answers was not good enough.

“We should have received answers today, instead a Minister who is meant to represent the interests of Victorian Aboriginal people hid behind the ‘that’s not in my portfolio’ excuse,” Mr Walsh said.

$41 million to give black fellas access to water to do what with? And the acquired land? Where are areas that might be taken and for what purpose is that land to be used?
Reckon Farmer Gez was onto something earlier today. This land will be ‘given back’ to Aboriginal groups because there might be a sacred tree or somesuch, only for these groups to accept large amounts of lucre to put useless turbines or other renewable shit on it.
It is very much in your face and needs to be opposed.

JC
JC
May 21, 2024 2:26 pm

Dear God. The usual definition. If the number even with infant/ childhood deaths is in the late 30s/40s the number with it removed is going to involve most people at or above their 60s.

Dear God yourself. The figure isn’t most, it was around 10% living to 60. And the figure is now 80%. We now can extend life potential to mid 80s. But let’s take your number and it’s close to 40% life extension potential. ~40% is just a statistical blip?

No, you don’t. That age is gone. We are where we are.

Yes, you do. You can go lease 5 acres, build a shack and live just how people did in that age. You could probably live that way on government land near water for free and no one would give a shit. What you’re really saying is that you don’t want to like 99.99% of people nowadays.
The tens of millions of people trying to force their way into Europe and US are moving for a reason and it’s not all because of wars.

Makka
Makka
May 21, 2024 2:30 pm

The Allan government has refused to rule out giving compulsorily acquired private property to Indigenous groups and establishing seats designated to Indigenous members in the Victorian parliament.

Sicktoria.

And it will remain quite sick until there are enough Victorian voters with the sense to throw this wretched Govt out.

On the positive side, it makes my retirement locale decision that much easier.

Makka
Makka
May 21, 2024 2:43 pm

“After 200 years of colonisation, where this state took away lands in the settlement, murdered people and took away culture and language we are not going to be ruling anything in or out

See what is going on here.

This is the same rhetoric being used by the pro-Hamas protestors on our streets and taking over universities. The same sh*t being spoken in our parliaments. Not to mention our schools?

This is the Labor Party working to appease the Abo/Pali activists in their midst and shoring up votes , distracting from their appalling mismanagement of the state’s finances, hiking fees and taxes while ruining the Vic power grid.

Johnny Rotten
May 21, 2024 2:49 pm

Dear God yourself. The figure isn’t most, it was around 10% living to 60. And the figure is now 80%. We now can extend life potential to mid 80s. But let’s take your number and it’s close to 40% life extension potential. ~40% is just a statistical blip?

I agree with Junior.

The modern western world has give us so many benefits.

My Mum is 92 and I am 71. Do you know how many people keep living to be 100 years old? It is not by accident. I hope King Charlie Boy the Turd has a good Telegram System because he will need it.

That is because of the modern Industrial Revolution and the development of medicines and hygiene and everything that is good. Increased food production as well as coal fired power stations generating electricity including more CO2 in the air. LOL.

Humanoids have come a long way since they climbed down from the trees and mated with those Aliens. LOL.

JC
JC
May 21, 2024 2:49 pm
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rosie
rosie
May 21, 2024 2:58 pm

I’m not sure anyone would take the punt that if you could survive to age 15, perhaps only a 50/50 chance you might then live to 60 over the current 97% chance of living to age 60.
As for food, if you didn’t have widespread famine or localised crop failures as Ireland experienced several times in the early to mid 19th century as a non industrialised nation, you would most likely have seasonal hunger as the last of the previous years crops were consumed and you were waiting for the next crop to come in.
In Ireland for most people relying on potato crops that would have been for around two months every year, spring to summer, according to Cecil Woodham-Smith in ‘The Great Hunger’.

Pogria
Pogria
May 21, 2024 3:12 pm
Makka
Makka
May 21, 2024 3:18 pm

Government-backed green tech firm goes broke, gets acquired for $5m

An Australian recycler of old computers, phones and other e-waste that took in $15 million in government equity funding has been snapped up for a fraction of the money it raised after it entered administration in March.

Scipher Technologies took in $7.5 million apiece from the Clean Energy Finance Corporation and the Australian Business Growth Fund in 2022, but escalating losses due to overspending on growth plans and increased competition in the e-waste space…..

You can guess the rest,

Govt picking winners.. the record speaks for itself.

But, but, we’ll get it right with the Billion$$ we pour into SuperDuper Computers!

rosie
rosie
May 21, 2024 3:23 pm

Interestingly the world socialists were not impressed with the advancement of Maori capitalism in New Zealand.
I believe the new government have cancelled these water bodies but you can bet your boots the water claims in Victoria and elsewhere in Australia are to the same ends.

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2023/01/19/bnra-j19.html

Lysander
Lysander
May 21, 2024 3:33 pm

Some doomporn:

Campi Flegrei: Seismic storm hits Italy’s super volcano with strongest earthquake in 40 years | CNN

The last major eruption of the supervolcano was in 1538, which resulted in the creation of a new bay on the southern Italian coast. The INGV has noted an increase of seismic activity since 2022, which could be due either to the building up of magma under the surface or the building up of gases, according to several volcanologists.

Lysander
Lysander
May 21, 2024 3:38 pm

The Allan government has refused to rule out giving compulsorily acquired private property to Indigenous groups and establishing seats designated to Indigenous members in the Victorian parliament.

And in related news… Egypt’s Parliament to give several mandated seats to the Nubians (circa 10,000BC).

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
May 21, 2024 3:41 pm

Only Italians could build a major city right on top of a volcano.
Sheesh.

shatterzzz
May 21, 2024 3:44 pm

What does this mean ,,? .. Nuttin’ controversial just my life choice(s) alongside a Mail Online sob story …….!
I can read it but assume others couldn’t/can’t .. no thumbs attached …….!

shatterzzz
 May 21, 2024 7:42 am
Awaiting for approval

Johnny Rotten
May 21, 2024 4:08 pm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guess_Who%27s_Coming_to_Dinner

And this was Spencer Tracy’s last film, What a Classic. And what a Man.

feelthebern
feelthebern
May 21, 2024 4:09 pm

When will the white man stop persecuting Tarryn Thomas?

Johnny Rotten
May 21, 2024 4:11 pm

I don’t know why so many posters/pesters keep on crapping on about Putin. The UKR is farked. End of story.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
May 21, 2024 4:13 pm

In Ballarat, on the way back to the warmth of Queensland.

Last night in Halls Gap, after a day hiking in the Grampians. Fortunately there was no sign of Rampant Gay Nazis doing male bonding activities, presumably the cold drizzle keeps them at bay.

Regional Victoria is littered thickly with 40kmh temporary speed signs and bollards where road repairs are supposed to be happening, but aren’t.

Johnny Rotten
May 21, 2024 4:19 pm

And then like Wenny Pong and Tennis Elbow moan about any so called Genocide. Wake up you dopes.

How many were killed/mutilated on October the 7th?

Elbow, did you ever see that horrible stuff before your E Commissar tried to take down a video of Winnie the Poo stealing some honey.? I didn’t think so.

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Johnny Rotten
May 21, 2024 4:30 pm

feelthebern
 May 21, 2024 4:09 pm

When will the white man stop persecuting Tarryn Thomas?

Only when all the other “White Men’ ever stop having a pinky white skin?

Only when all the other “shites” haven’t gone to Spec Savers.

We are not white. That is an Albino. You Dipsticks.

Johnny Rotten
May 21, 2024 4:39 pm

Bruce of Newcastle
 May 21, 2024 3:41 pm

Only Italians could build a major city right on top of a volcano.
Sheesh.

Naples is built right next door to a Big Volcano.

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Vicki
Vicki
May 21, 2024 4:46 pm

Interesting that the RAAF have resumed low altitude training (I think in C130 Hercules) of young airmen over our valley after a fair absence. We love it. Some quite spectacular low level stuff over the years. But its also good that we still have some recruits!!!

Vicki
Vicki
May 21, 2024 4:57 pm

In three and a half years the US lost 15,000 or so airmen in accidents in training. About twelve per day on average.

We were sitting at the table over a coffee with a neighbour a couple of weeks ago when he suddenly hooted “Whoa.”…we turned our heads to the window and spotted a couple of aircraft headed at low level straight for the house… of course veering upwards in that moment. Very exhilarating. Another time we spotted a single military plane following a semi up the straight length of road at our front boundary. Never heard of a by anyone in the valley. Part of the scenery.

Vicki
Vicki
May 21, 2024 4:59 pm

“Never heard of a by anyone in the valley. Part of the scenery.”

Never heard of a complaint…..

Makka
Makka
May 21, 2024 5:09 pm

“Whoa.”…we turned our heads to the window and spotted a couple of aircraft headed at low level straight for the house…

My first mining gig was in the NT in the 70’s. The RAAF still had the F-111’s in service. One quiet arvo around sunset in the dry season I was up the top of the bennie plant and spotted 2 F-111’s turning and then coming in at loooowww level straight for me- so about 130ft altitude I’d say. At about a 1/2 mile out they both suddenly turned skyward and hit the afterburners. Well, what a beautiful sight in the sunset NT sky- the flames were at least 2 plane lengths long and the acceleration looked phenomenal. Those fly boys must have been having a whale of a time.

Johnny Rotten
May 21, 2024 5:34 pm

And another great film where the children beat the Nazis in Norway

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9348848/

On SBS World Movies

In the Second World War

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Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
May 21, 2024 5:37 pm

One quiet arvo around sunset in the dry season I was up the top of the bennie plant and spotted 2 F-111’s turning and then coming in at loooowww level straight for me…

We used to regularly get the same thing at South Blackwater. Fairly flat terrain with the coal prep plant sitting up on the edge of a ridge – flat reflective surfaces, it presented an ideal low-level practice target for the Pave Tack weapons control system.

Very spectacular.

calli
calli
May 21, 2024 5:39 pm

I’m in Naples in about four weeks. That’s if I survive the desert camel ride tomorrow night.

Musing about Amal Clooney “arresting” Hamas. How will she go about it? Sashay up to Rafah in her stilettos and threaten them with her Louis Vuitton handbag?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 21, 2024 5:43 pm

theaustralian.com.au00:23

‘Admit they got it wrong’: Linda Reynolds at WA Supreme CourtSenator Linda Reynolds has arrived at WA’s Supreme Court for mediation in her defamation against her former…

By paige taylor

  • Indigenous Affairs Correspondent, WA Bureau Chief
  • 3:39PM May 21, 2024

Liberal Senator Linda Reynolds and her former staffer Brittany Higgins have failed to reach an agreement in a second round of mediation, Ms Reynolds told media outside the West Australian Supreme Court where she is suing Ms Higgins and her partner David Sharaz for defamation.
After three hours on mediation on Tuesday, Senator Reynolds emerged from the court with her lawyer Martin Bennett and told reporters: “Unfortunately, it appears at this stage that we still will be heading to trial in July.”
Earlier on Tuesday while arriving at court, Senator Reynolds said it is time for the Finance Minister, the lawyer general and his department to “admit they got it wrong”.
Senator Reynolds paused outside the court on Barrack Street in the centre of Perth – a second attempt at mediation – and urged all parties to accept all of the findings made by Justice Michael Lee in his judgment in April.

Indolent
Indolent
May 21, 2024 5:43 pm

Dr. John Campbell

Confirmed horrifying scandal

Lysander
Lysander
May 21, 2024 5:44 pm

Nova Peris has quit as Co-Chair of the Australian Republican Movement; citing her co-chair (Craig Foster’s) divisive campaign and anti Israel rhetoric.

10 paws.

calli
calli
May 21, 2024 5:46 pm

Looks like I’m on someone’s speed dial still. Obsessed much?

Indolent
Indolent
May 21, 2024 5:52 pm
Roger
Roger
May 21, 2024 5:52 pm

Regional Victoria is littered thickly with 40kmh temporary speed signs and bollards where road repairs are supposed to be happening, but aren’t.

Psy op.

Johnny Rotten
May 21, 2024 5:55 pm

Dr Faustus
 May 21, 2024 5:37 pm

One quiet arvo around sunset in the dry season I was up the top of the bennie plant and spotted 2 F-111’s turning and then coming in at loooowww level straight for me…

And the swing wing was invented by Dr. Barnes Wallace the inventor of the Dam Busters bouncing bomb,

The TSR2 was the British Bomber with the swing wings that the Yanks didn’t like and stole the swing wings from the Brits.

What Cads, Still, all is good in love and war. LOL And Moneeeeeee

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edClNWhKFEU

The Best Bomber Never Made………………….

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 21, 2024 5:57 pm

Reading Alan Dershowitz “War Against the Jews.”

“Israeli intelligence learned that a family’s house in Gaza was being used to manufacture rockets. The Israeli military gave the residents thirty minutes to leave.Instead, the owner called Hamas, which sent mothers carrying babies to the house. Israel held its fire. (Page 38)

Eyrie
Eyrie
May 21, 2024 6:05 pm

Once when driving through the Owens Valley up Route 395, I looked in the rear vision mirror and said “watch this” to Mrs Eyrie. We got a nice fly by from an F-14 at about 200 feet.

Johnny Rotten, the swing wing was invented by the Germans. Messerschmitt P.1101 which the Americans flew as the X-5 after the war.
The TSR2 didn’t have a swing wing.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
May 21, 2024 6:19 pm

I love the scent of hypocrisy in the morning, it smells like Gaia farting.

‘It’s flexible’: Chris Bowen discusses benefits of gas (Sky News, 21 May)

Climate Change and Energy Minister Chris Bowen says one benefit of gas for the electricity system is “it is flexible”.

Mr Bowen stressed the importance of gas, saying it is important for industries like “cement making and steel making”.

The Climate Change and Energy Minister also said it is important for the “five million homes” in Australia that use it for “heating and cooking”.

“For the electricity system … the benefit of gas is it is flexible.

“Gas you can switch on and off at two minutes notice.”

We need him on our Olympic team. Double backflip with triple twist! No one else can do gymnastics as good as this.

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Miltonf
Miltonf
May 21, 2024 6:22 pm

It is very much in your face and needs to be opposed.

We dealing with hard core Marxist idealogues here. They certainly hate the very idea of private land ownership (except for them of course). There is no point in even talking to them- their motivation is irrational- ideology and hate.

Eyrie
Eyrie
May 21, 2024 6:26 pm

Apologies if this has already been pointed out. The X post earlier about the Iranian helicopter crash:
THE NAMES OF THE TERRORISTS WHO DIED WITH TERRORIST IRANIAN PRESIDENT RAISI IN HELICOPTER CRASH.

LAST NAME, KRUCHEV SOUNDS RUSSIANhttps://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/svg/1f914.svg

1- Ayatollah Seyyed Ebrahim Rais al-Sadati
2- Ayatollah Seyyed Muhammad Ali Al-Hashem
3- Dr. Hossein Amirabdollahian
4- Dr. Malik Rahmati
5- Sardar Seyed Mehdi Mousavi
6- An Ansar al-Mahdi Corps (identity unknown)
7- Pilot (unknown identity)
8- The pilot’s help, unknown identity)
9-Kruchev (unknown identity)

I’d say “Kruchev” sounds like he was the Crew Chief aka Loadmaster.

Johnny Rotten
May 21, 2024 6:32 pm

Johnny Rotten, the swing wing was invented by the Germans. Messerschmitt P.1101 which the Americans flew as the X-5 after the war.
The TSR2 didn’t have a swing wing.

  • With TSR.2 going ahead the Anglo-French AFVG (Anglo-French Variable Geometry) aircraft, a swing-wing carrier compatible fighter (for interceptor, tactical strike and reconnaissance roles), was discontinued.

Did Barnes Wallis invent a swing wing?

  • This unique structure was restored at Brooklands Museum thanks to a grant from the AIM-Biffa fund in 2013 and was officially reopened by Mary Stopes-Roe, Barnes Wallis’s daughter, on 13 March 2014. Although he did not invent the concept, Wallis did much pioneering engineering work to make the swing-wing functional.
  • Although the Americans were interested in “variable geometry” or “swing wings” that could pivot outward to give a high-performance aircraft good low-speed and landing capabilities, the TSR.2 instead used a “blown flaps” scheme, in which engine bleed air was fed through the back of the wing and blown over wide-span trailing edge flaps to lower the stall speed and takeoff run.

Another example of the Yanks stealing stuff. And they have a go at the Chinks?

Miltonf
Miltonf
May 21, 2024 6:35 pm

Victoria is misgoverned by wimmin with BAs.

billie
billie
May 21, 2024 6:36 pm

Admit they got it wrong’: Linda Reynolds

If Miss Higgins does admit she got it wrong, then what happens?

What else is she liable for?

Action by the other injured party at Dept. Defence?

No more cushy UN jobs in Geneva, and also, the woman who escorted her constantly to court appearances, can’t remember her name or title, certainly undermines her as well.

It just keeps on giving, everyone’s tar baby (thanks for that, from above)

Will it keep going? Looks like the ACT government wants to keep threads of it going, nothing like a Chief Minister and his ilk thwarted eh?

Eyrie
Eyrie
May 21, 2024 6:38 pm

 the TSR.2 instead used a “blown flaps” scheme, in which engine bleed air was fed through the back of the wing and blown over wide-span trailing edge flaps to lower the stall speed and takeoff run.

Other aircraft with blown flaps including before the TSR2:
F-104
F-4 Phantom
Blackburn Buccaneer (best of a long line of questionable to downright dogs of aircraft, most of which were ugly. The Bucc was brilliant)

Perplexed of Brisbane
Perplexed of Brisbane
May 21, 2024 6:40 pm

Dr Faustus
 May 21, 2024 5:37 pm

One quiet arvo around sunset in the dry season I was up the top of the bennie plant and spotted 2 F-111’s turning and then coming in at loooowww level straight for me…

We used to regularly get the same thing at South Blackwater. Fairly flat terrain with the coal prep plant sitting up on the edge of a ridge – flat reflective surfaces, it presented an ideal low-level practice target for the Pave Tack weapons control system.
Very spectacular.

Many years ago a mate and I visited his father (a senior controller) at the control tower at Brisbane Airport. We were looking at the radar and saw two x’s. He said that two F111’s were coming in from over Moreton Bay at 200 ft. Almost. They buzzed the main runway at 50 ft and delayed a Qantas take-off. Then went vertical and flew off to Amberley.

Johnny Rotten
May 21, 2024 6:44 pm

Eyrie
 May 21, 2024 6:26 pm

Apologies if this has already been pointed out. The X post earlier about the Iranian helicopter crash:
THE NAMES OF THE TERRORISTS WHO DIED WITH TERRORIST IRANIAN PRESIDENT RAISI IN HELICOPTER CRASH

Who gives a Fcuk about an Iranian anything. Leave it to them to sort it out.

We should be more worried about the Nutters here trying to drive Australia into the dust,

What happens when the power goes off?

Candles anyone?

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Johnny Rotten
May 21, 2024 6:51 pm

Miltonf
 May 21, 2024 6:35 pm

Victoria is misgoverned by wimmin with BAs.

A BA from Sictoria means Bugger All.

QED

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hzhousewife
hzhousewife
May 21, 2024 6:58 pm

Chris Uhlmann on Sky with Peta Credlin talking immense sense re energy right now, speaking with clarity and eloquence.

cohenite
May 21, 2024 7:00 pm

Alright, after the latest surreal grotesqueries in the Trump stormy hush what ever the fuk trial and merchan’s amazing outburst what are the odds:

1 merchan dismisses
2 Jury dismisses
3 Jury convicts
4 Jury convicts and merchan sentences Trump to immediate execution
5 Jury convict and merchan immediately imprisons Trump with stormy.

Pogria
Pogria
May 21, 2024 7:01 pm

HZ,
Uhlmann made sense on the energy stuff, then the turd blamed the Hamas atrocity on Netanyahu.
Stated that the whole steaming pile was on Netanyahu.

Uhlmann is a f**king #@&**$!

First Nations Reboot
First Nations Reboot
May 21, 2024 7:25 pm

Terrible crime in Iran.

rosie
rosie
May 21, 2024 7:36 pm

Looks like a bird has landed.

Johnny Rotten
May 21, 2024 7:37 pm

cohenite
 May 21, 2024 7:00 pm

Alright, after the latest surreal grotesqueries in the Trump stormy hush what ever the fuk trial and merchan’s amazing outburst what are the odds:
1 merchan dismisses
2 Jury dismisses
3 Jury convicts
4 Jury convicts and merchan sentences Trump to immediate execution
5 Jury convict and merchan immediately imprisons Trump with stormy.

A Miss Trial. And a Load of Bollox,

Trump back on the Trail……….Yeaaaa Haaaaaaa

Rolling, rolling, cowboy,,,,,,,,,,Rawhide

Yeah Baby

l

Johnny Rotten
May 21, 2024 7:43 pm

We need him on our Olympic team. Double backflip with triple twist! No one else can do gymnastics as good as this.

I watched a piece on the TV the other night about the Ladies Australian Badminton Team.

They were all Chinese.

First Nations Reboot
First Nations Reboot
May 21, 2024 7:49 pm

Supposing you wanted to break into North Korea from South Korea? Could you do so without heavy artillery? Or during the Cold War if you wanted to break i
to East Germany from West Germany? Could you do so without heavy artillery?

No. So why are you all talking such nonsense about October 7????

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 21, 2024 7:52 pm

Terrible crime in Iran

Yes, hanging all those pouves from cranes.

That, and the massacre following the Siege of Kut in 1916.

132andBush
132andBush
May 21, 2024 7:56 pm

Climate Change and Energy Minister Chris Bowen says one benefit of gas for the electricity system is “it is flexible”.

Mr Bowen stressed the importance of gas, saying it is important for industries like “cement making and steel making”.

The Climate Change and Energy Minister also said it is important for the “five million homes” in Australia that use it for “heating and cooking”.

“For the electricity system … the benefit of gas is it is flexible.

“Gas you can switch on and off at two minutes notice.”

I’m guessing the saner heads at AEMO have been laying things out for Blackout, sans bullshit.

To repeat myself: There is not enough gas in the current supply chain to run the planned backup generation requirements let alone domestic and industrial.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
May 21, 2024 7:58 pm

Sorry to say in Townsville you get a bit blasé to the RAAF. Easy to tell the locals on a flight out of town as when the commercial flight is waiting for it turn to take off the locals are buried in the phones, out of towners are like oooh ahhh and sometimes filming.

We had the Yanks in a Garbutt a few years before we bought Super Hornets, they had Super Hornets. They used to do take off rolls (TSV is 2400m long) under full afterburn that myself 15km from the runway could hear loudly and a slamming sound they made as they began to roll. I never knew what that was but I’d imagine something due too the soundwaves cancelling each other out from the 2 engines.

RAAF B707 were another you could hear all over town, high pitch sound and they made a racket.

Caribous used to be interesting, landing on runway 03 their braking distance was so short they could exit at the first taxiway.

Only people that whinge are the blow ins & greenies.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
May 21, 2024 7:58 pm

No. So why are you all talking such nonsense about October 7????

Bugger off Bird. You’re a lunatic.

First Nations Reboot
First Nations Reboot
May 21, 2024 8:02 pm

Let’s go over it again for the low IQ. Since an attack from Gaza was impossible without heavy artillery it did not happen that way.

Am I going too fast for you?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 21, 2024 8:07 pm

From the nested comments:

I take it Knuckles that you get your Iran reportage direct from kosher news?

Well obviously, and as mentioned, it was a Direct Energy Weapon strike. Clearly planned and carried out by the R people.

The Black Prince would have been furious, had he known of the plot.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 21, 2024 8:12 pm

First Nuggies Reboot:

You are very clearly aware that Mossad organised this.

Pro tip: Don’t ever, ever answer your mobile phone again should it ring.

*kaboom*

They’re everywhere, you know. I’m surprised they haven’t tagged your keyboard.

*kaboom*

bons
bons
May 21, 2024 8:13 pm

Markle, in any reasonable person’s reckoning, is a carricture of the Holliwierd or Met Gala daytime TV freakshow.

But she is not. She is a genius. Her understanding of human nature is Hitleresque.

From the moment that she correctly assessed Harry as a sucker mark she ran a con of proportions that would make Soros blush.

Capturing Hollywood by having chief creep Clooney at the ‘wedding’ and massaging Oprah to felate them publically, made her bullet proof in the A List pervert paradigm.

From then it was easy; victim of the evil white royals, kids and dogs, Kardashian vacuousness, playing and alternately sueing the tabloids, fake charities etc. Genius.

The ‘royal’ visit to Nigeria was her ultimate achievement. It should have been a trigger for endless screaming scorn. Nope, she is suddenly an anti-slavery African princess superstar.

She is unstoppable. The only question for Oz is when will Albanese bring her out to commune with our victims of the ‘genocide’.

She has not uttered a word about Gaza. She understands who her audience is. Daytime TV in Florida.

Her political aspirations are not a joke. She will get there with a huge margin.

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
May 21, 2024 8:17 pm

First Nations ‘experts’ say Closing the Gap targets on domestic violence in indigenous communities won’t be met without additional funding:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-05-21/first-nations-experts-say-closing-the-gap-family-violence-target/103874672

Plain English translation: Gimmee, gimmee, gimmee.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
May 21, 2024 8:20 pm

FNR, you’re now in moderation

Ah geez. You could have let us play with it first before you threw it out.

Nuggies! Explain how you and Mossad were mates!

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
May 21, 2024 8:25 pm

Ok, state election 5 months out. Optics of this aren’t given the ALP is heading for a chicken kicking. Family & police union opposed to the attempt to gag information. Also commissioner has hired a Victorian Barrister to represent them, I have no idea whether this is normal but seems odd.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13441371/Wieambilla-shootings-extremely-sensitive-material-inquest-killing-two-police-officers.html

Had a relative who was Q Pol so I’m not unsympathetic this would be difficult for some that knew the victims but the fact the Police Union opposes gagging information has me suspecting rather than TTP’s or capabilities being released possibly some embarrassing facts may be about to pop in the sunlight detrimental the brass/management or State Government.

Cassie of Sydney
May 21, 2024 8:26 pm

Good on Nova…

Australian Olympian Nova Peris resigns from republican movement after co-chair Craig Foster’s Gaza comments
Australian Olympic champion Nova Peris has quit her role as co-chair of the Australian Republican Movement after her co-chair, Craig Foster, made comments that she considered “inaccurate” and “divisive”.

The athlete and former Labor senator said she was unable to continue in her role after Foster published an open letter to FIFA and Football Australia calling for Australia to back suspension of Israel from international football.

His letter, posted on his Instagram page five days ago to almost 30,000 followers, said FIFA’s statutes called upon the organisation “to promote and protect the human rights of your members and use your leverage with all stakeholders, including governments, to protect the human rights of both those within football, and without”.

“Given that more than 100 conflicts exist currently, the question is, when must global sport act?” he wrote. “The answer must be when the gravest crimes against humanity of apartheid and genocide are being committed or, as in the present case, a clear duty exists to prevent them.”

Peris said some of Foster’s words were “flat-out wrong”.

“I don’t believe inaccurate and divisive public statements like the one made to FIFA are appropriate,” she told The Sydney Morning Herald.

“Given our different styles of leadership and different ­visions on how to promote dialogue, reconciliation and social cohesion, it is untenable for me to continue alongside Craig as co-chair of the ARM and I’ll be stepping down.”

Following her resignation, Mr Foster posted on social media that he wished her the best.

“Wishing Nova the greatest success and my deepest thanks for her long and distinguished service to the Republic Movement. An incredible contribution,” he said.

“There can, however be no silence when a duty to protect other humans exists for us all. Including sport.”

ARM National Director and chief executive Isaac Jeffrey thanked Peris for her contributions to the organisation.

“On behalf of the Australian Republic Movement, I thank Nova for her proud support and lifelong advocacy for Australia to become an equal on the world stage through an Aussie republic,” Mr Jeffrey said,

“Her role with the organisation has helped move the country another step closer to a stronger democracy through having our own Head of State.
“We wish her well in her future endeavours and look forward to her ongoing support for an Australian republic.”

In a letter to the chair of Football Australia, the Executive Council of Australian Jewry called on the organisation to “remain politically neutral”.
“The loss of civilian lives and scale of human suffering on both sides of the conflict has indeed been appalling, and is the direct result of Hamas openly targeting Israeli civilians while shielding themselves behind Gazan civilians and civilian infrastructure,” they said.

“Quite apart from the false legal claims levelled at Israel, there is the matter of principle that FIFA and Football Australia should not involve themselves in a long-running and complex international conflict between two peoples.

“The common love of sport is supposed to bring people together.

“We call upon Football Australia to remain politically neutral and honour the sentiment of Australians by refusing to support any proposal to suspend the IFA from competition.

“Sport plays an essential role in bringing people together and emphasising common humanity, and it ought not to be weaponised to stoke division.”

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
May 21, 2024 8:34 pm

Hume Fwy is f’ing joke especially between Kalkallo & Kilmore’s second exit near Broadford. Area from Western Ring rd to Wallan already needs a third lane.

And will someone turn up the bloody thermostat. About 10 deg now and going to be 3 deg tonight FFS!

Anyway gotta be social with my hosts, enjoy.

Cassie of Sydney
May 21, 2024 8:49 pm

I support Mr Evert, and more importantly, I agree with Mr Evert….

Chastity campaigner Jason Evert hits out at cancellationsJoe Kelly
A US-based chastity campaigner has hit back at those seeking to cancel him for promoting no sex before marriage to teenagers in Catholic schools, after three of his presentations on the NSW Central Coast were dropped following complaints.

Jason Evert, who has spent 26 years promoting the virtues of chastity as a preparation for marriage, said he believed the controversy over his presentations was a sign that Catholic teachings were becoming increasingly marginalised in a society being reshaped by social media.

Mr Evert, who founded the Chastity Project with his wife Crystalina to help teenagers and young adults, on Tuesday defended the ability of religious schools to promote abstinence and healthy relationships to students. He said it was especially important given the easy access to online pornography for teenagers and the negative consequences for the next generation being wrought by social media.

“The focus of the presentation is the virtues of chastity and how to distinguish love from lust,” he said.

“We do talk about pornography – the harms that presents to both boys as well as girls. It’s very much a message of hope, how to break free from that – how to start over if you have made mistakes.”

“Girls are going to bed at night after spending two hours scrolling on social media looking at everybody’s perfect body, hair and perfect relationship. So this is not good for self-esteem.”

Mr Evert, who arrived in Australia on Monday morning, said he could not attend St Joseph’s Catholic College in East Gosford, MacKillop College at Warnervale and St Peter’s College at Tuggerah to deliver presentations after the schools received complaints from some of the parents.

“Why send your child to be educated at a Catholic institution if you don’t want them to receive Catholic values?” he said. “This is my seventh trip.

This is the first one in which we’ve had any kind of backlash.”

Instead of attending the schools in person, Mr Evert live-streamed his presentation at St Leo’s Wahroonga which was able to be viewed by eight different schools on an “opt-in” basis.

Director of public affairs and engagement for the Archdiocese of Sydney, Monica Doumit, defended Mr Evert’s trip and noted that he addressed more than 1000 kids from Sydney Catholic schools on Monday at the Good Samaritan Catholic College in southwest Sydney on Monday.

“One would think that a speaker who affirms young women in their God-given dignity and challenges the narrative that they need to make themselves more sexually attractive to be worthy of love is exactly what is needed at a time when we are seeing the devastating mental health impacts of girls placing their value in the number of ‘likes’ they receive,” she said in the Catholic Weekly.

“One would think that sexual violence might be reduced if young men listened to someone who told them they shouldn’t ask a girl out until they had quit watching porn.”

Ms Doumit said the backlash to the tour was “amplified by left-leaning media outlets and many professional protesters with no connection to Catholic schools.”

The part I bolded above…….why indeed?

Black Ball
Black Ball
May 21, 2024 8:52 pm

Lipstick on a pig. Courier Mail:

The Albanese government is forking out more than $172m on spruiking various government initiatives across their different portfolios including $10m to raise awareness about new vehicle efficiency standards and another $10m on the net zero transition.

The total figures come as Treasurer Jim Chalmers has been forced to defend spending $45m on advertising the government’s Future Made in Australia policy while another $40m was spent on promoting stage three tax cuts.

Among the spending was $10m set aside in 2023-2024 “for a national communications campaign to raise awareness of the New Vehicle Efficiency Standard” while another $10m will be spend over two years from 2023-2024 to “deliver public information on the net zero transition and ensure affected workers and communicate are aware of the support available.”

Ads for the new vehicle efficiency standards are already being rolled out across TV, print and radio and have been translated in Mandarin, Cantonese, Arabic and Vietnamese.

There’s more. But you get the idea. Good Lord.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
May 21, 2024 9:03 pm

Were those Buccaneers under his Buccanhat?

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GreyRanga
GreyRanga
May 21, 2024 9:14 pm

I saw the last flyover of F111 in Canberra. Looked up to see what the noise was. Wow it was huge, flying very low.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
May 21, 2024 9:20 pm

Blackhawks over Shoalhaven tonight. First time for quite a while.

rosie
rosie
May 21, 2024 9:42 pm

Looks like you missed the best bit of Chartres Harlequin Decline
https://twitter.com/CatholicArena/status/1792197825981190625?t=HdmuNZUAPUoL3exmdpw6Ag&s=19

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
May 21, 2024 9:47 pm

feelthebern
 May 21, 2024 4:09 pm

When will the white man stop persecuting Tarryn Thomas?

When he stops punching the living suitcase out of his girlfriends maybe?

rosie
rosie
May 21, 2024 9:48 pm

Albo won’t let anyone reply to his taxcuttweets.
Lol.
https://twitter.com/ausgov/status/1790265675296235811?t=C52k_3D_ThC8zqnKpWqMeA&s=19

Barry
Barry
May 21, 2024 10:38 pm

The Albanese government is forking out more than $172m on spruiking various government initiatives across their different portfolios

If you add it all up, the Government spending on advertising probably accounts for the entire profit of the commercial radio and TV free to air broadcasters.

No wonder they are happy to parrot lockdown and climate propaganda.

Salvatore - Iron Publican
May 21, 2024 11:07 pm

Singapore Airlines flight from Heathrow to Singapore hits extreme turbulence.
Dozens of passengers injured, One passenger killed.
Emergency landing at Bangkok.

Details at all major news outlets.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
May 21, 2024 11:08 pm

Defence Minister Richard Marles accused of stalling on Richard Norden’s Victoria Cross honour ‘for political gain’

  • EXCLUSIVE

By ben packham

  • Foreign Affairs and Defence Correspondent
  • 8:55PM May 21, 2024
  • 18 Comments

Defence Minister Richard Marles has been sitting for nearly two years on a Victoria Cross recommendation for a soldier who served in Vietnam, sparking concerns the award is being delayed to “sugar-coat” the stripping of medals for command failures in Afghanistan.
The Defence Honours and Awards Appeals Tribunal ­recommended in July 2022 that Private Richard Leslie Norden be posthumously awarded the ­nation’s top military honour for “pre-eminent acts of valour and self-sacrifice” during the May 1968 Battle of Fire Support Base Coral. But Mr Marles has since been silent on the ­matter, passing up an opportunity to make the award last year as the nation marked 50 years since the end of Australia’s involvement in the Vietnam War.
Mr Marles has also had recommendations sitting on his desk for at least 11 months on the removal of honours and awards for army commanders who failed to prevent war crimes identified in the Brereton Report.
The minister’s office said there was no link between that matter and the proposed VC. “Due to the status of this award, recommendations relating to eligibility are handled with the utmost sensitivity, care and consultation,” a spokeswoman for Mr Marles said. But Vietnam veterans believe the VC decision has become entangled in the fallout from the Afghanistan inquiry and public pressure for commanders to be held accountable for war crimes that occurred on their watch.

Lieutenant Colonel (retired) George Hulse, who fought in the same battle as Norden and was principal advocate in the tribunal process, said he believed the government was preparing to use the VC award as political cover “for the nasty stuff about stripping medals from other people”.
“A Victoria Cross for Dick Norden would be a nationally popular thing to do, and would go down with loud applause, without any doubt,” he told The Australian. “Stripping people of awards for Afghanistan will be met with huge controversy. So, you know, you get a good cop, bad cop thing happening. I just think they’ll use it for political gain, to sugar-coat something that’s going to be nasty for them. And in an election year, they want to be seen as being the good guys.”

Colonel Hulse said he had repeatedly approached Mr Marles and Veterans’ Affairs Minister Matt Keogh seeking answers over the delay to the VC decision, but had been rebuffed.
Another veteran of the same action, Medal for Gallantry recipient Alan “Jack” Parr, said he couldn’t understand the delay and believed “the Brereton bloody report is tied up with it somehow”.
“I think it’s obviously political, why it’s being held up,” he said.
Norden returned from the war to join the Australian Federal Police in Canberra, but died on duty in a 1972 motorcycle accident.
The 1st Battalion Royal Australian Regiment rifleman from Gundagai received a Distinguished Conduct Medal for his bravery at Fire Support Base Coral. But veterans believed his commander, Lieutenant Colonel Phillip Bennett, should have recommended him for the VC.
Colonel Hulse said he took up Norden’s case after reading the official account of his bravery, which he believed was “right up there with the very top citations that describe the Victoria Cross”.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
May 22, 2024 1:56 am

Just watching John Wick sort out Russian gangsters. They killed his puppy.

I can imagine like Mossad sorting out hamas filth.

KevinM
KevinM
May 22, 2024 3:39 am

This reminded me of C Bowen.
Gas is good coal is bad.

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Johnny Rotten
May 22, 2024 3:49 am

Just watching Jamie and Jimmy at the end of ‘Sarfend’ Pier with the lovely yummy Joanna Lumley on their Cooking Show.

Making me hungry just watching the show.

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