Open Thread – Weekend 15 June 2024


Lake Maggiore in the Evening, Ivan Aivazovsky, 1858

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Bourne1879
Bourne1879
June 16, 2024 9:59 am

Courier Mail article comments about Pauline v Irwin very much in her favour and now over 600 comments which is a lot for a CM article.

The YouTube clip is only showing 100k views which seems low considering every media outlet carrying the story. Anybody know how to see how often viewed as clips are everywhere?

Meanwhile a King had his trooping of the colour yesterday and Princess Kate looked good.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 16, 2024 10:05 am

In Perf I think it is a flat X dwellings per local government area. It was quite a stink in our (lower) middle class Western Suburbs of Curtin as it was allowing terrace developments and subdivision of corner blocks. Have been some questionable developments through Dalkeith and Claremont. Developers are eyeing off the subregional shopping centres now.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
June 16, 2024 10:07 am

Seems I have missed the original version of the Irwin Qld promotional campaign.

Below from ABC on 1 June. I think it makes Irwin fair game for Pauline’s parody cartoon.

“The Queensland government is tapping into the global popularity of local sensation Bluey with its biggest tourism campaign in a decade, built around the game of “keepy uppy”.

The theme borrows from an episode of the hit show that first aired in 2018, when Bluey and Bingo took turns in keeping a red balloon from touching the ground.

The $9.2 million campaign —”Bluey’s world, for real life” — features images from the state’s 13 tourist hotspots including Brisbane, the Gold Coast, the Sunshine Coast and the Great Barrier Reef.

Robert Irwin, from Australia Zoo, fronts the television advertisement, inviting viewers to “come play”.

The online campaign is expected to reach New Zealand, United States, United Kingdom, Japan and Singapore — markets where the blue heeler family is popular.

The government’s hoping to attract an extra 1.3 million holidaymakers to the state by June 2025 — both from interstate and worldwide — spending an extra $1.7 billion.

Zippster
Zippster
June 16, 2024 10:10 am
Steve trickler
Steve trickler
June 16, 2024 10:13 am

KevinM
June 15, 2024 11:34 pm

One for Strickler.

—-

Good find.

Cheers!

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
June 16, 2024 10:20 am

Billy Joel – Piano Man (Official HD Video)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxEPV4kolz0

m0nty
m0nty
June 16, 2024 10:22 am

Oh boy. Cranky is a pervert apologist for Kevin Spacey.

Very weird hill for her to die on.

Black Ball
Black Ball
June 16, 2024 10:27 am

Be silent dickhead. Your lot are anti Semitic flogs. Who like to see the systemic slaughter of Israelis.
And who love themselves cocks in frocks reading to kids and teenagers run down for the ghastly crime of wearing MAGA caps.

Pogria
Pogria
June 16, 2024 10:56 am

Oh noes!
Who didn’t see this coming? /sarc

The Hamas terrorist group last month stole some $108 million from banks in the Gaza strip, the Israeli military revealed on Wednesday.
Last month, France’s Le Monde reported that armed groups in the Strip with suspected links to Hamas looted $70 million from branches of the Bank of Palestine, a leading Palestinian financial institution.
The funds were taken from the vaults of several branches of the bank across Gaza, said the report, which cited a Bank of Palestine document sent to “certain international partners” detailing the alleged robberies.
In one instance, the largest Bank of Palestine branch was attacked by terrorist commandos who claimed they were sent by “Gaza’s highest authorities,” which Le Monde said was understood to mean Hamas.”

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 16, 2024 10:57 am

They are going to regret their rejection of that offer. It is going to leave the bitterest after-taste.

Maybe. Maybe not.

World leaders meet in Switzerland to discuss a Ukraine peace roadmap. Russia is notably absent (AP, 16 Jun, via Lucianne)

OBBÜRGEN, Switzerland (AP) — Dozens of world leaders converged on a Swiss resort Saturday to discuss how to bring peace to war-ravaged Ukraine, though any hopes of a real breakthrough were muted by the absence of Russia. … About half of the roughly 100 delegations were led by heads of state and government. Analysts said turnout would be a key indicator about how much pull Ukraine and its staunch Western backers have with the broader international community.

I have no idea what this gaggle of geese will come up with, but if they tell Russia to return to the 1991 border that would be very interesting. I think it is possible. The problem for Russia in such a circumstance is that quantity has its own quality and having 100 countries say something like that would be quite hard to defy.

It is possible they will call on Ukraine to make a peace based on current front line. But the vibes from Russia and China don’t seem to support that outcome – Putin and Xi have been very active in trying to discredit and denature the Swiss confab, which suggests they have gotten some early vibes from it.

It will be intriguing to see how the circle is squared, or etc.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
June 16, 2024 11:06 am

OBBÜRGEN, Switzerland (AP) — Dozens of world leaders converged on a Swiss resort Saturday to discuss how to bring peace to war-ravaged Ukraine, though any hopes of a real breakthrough were muted by the absence of Russia. … About half of the roughly 100 delegationswere led by heads of state and government.

Australia was represented by well-known World Leader, the Hon Bill Shorten.

You obviously wouldn’t send Handsome Boy and Wong was too busy bringing peace to Western Sydney.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 16, 2024 11:12 am

Can we have a Canberra Pig Book please?

Congressional ‘pig book’ released and look whose noses are in the trough (14 Jun)

Citizens Against Government Waste, a nonprofit, has published its annual “Congressional Pig Book,” and it’s a doozy. Published annually since 1991, the “Congressional Big Book” contains a compilation of all the wasteful “pork-barrel” projects in the federal budget pursued by both Democrats and Republicans. Covering last year’s budget, this year’s book reportedly contains 8,222 earmarks costing a whopping $22.7 billion. Of the legislators who pursued earmarks, Rep. Susan Collins, a Republican, pursued the most. 

Oink, oink! I suspect Labor would be quite porcine in a local edition of this august tome.

cohenite
June 16, 2024 11:25 am

Outstanding WIP. 2 of the best:

Palestine doesn’t have a history just a criminal record.

Gaza has the largest transgender community in the ME with as many as 15000 men identifying as women and children.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 16, 2024 11:39 am

He’s getting there, baby steps.

Opposition leader Peter Dutton accuses government of ‘wrecking the economy’ with its ‘renewables-only’ energy policy (Sky News, 16 Jun)

The Opposition leader has sensationally accused the government of “wrecking” the economy by pursuing what he describes as a “renewables-only” energy policy.

“Sensationally” seems to mean “accurately” these days. It’s quite true of course. The most interesting thing is he seems to have enough sway in the Turnbull/Kean-dominated soft-left Liberal Party to say this.

Not getting my vote until he ditches net zero entirely though.

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Ceres
Ceres
June 16, 2024 11:39 am

“Dozens of world leaders converged on Lucerne resort Saturday to discuss how to bring peace to war-ravaged Ukraine, “

A boondoggle, political stunt. USA sent giggling girty Kamala. Rooms at the luxury resort start at $2000 per night.
Russia not invited, India and China no shows.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 16, 2024 11:51 am

A blowtorch to the khaki-clad entitled backside.

Pauline Hanson responds after Robert Irwin threatens to sue over ‘Please Explain’ cartoon (Sky News mainpage headline, 16 Jun)

Pauline Hanson has fired back at Robert Irwin after he sent a cease and desist letter to the One Nation leader after he featured in the latest ‘Please Explain’ cartoon. …

“Lighten up Robert, your father, Steve, he was a larrikin, he had a laugh, he could take the mickey out of himself and you’re complaining about this,” she said.

Schooled!

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cohenite
June 16, 2024 12:13 pm

‘Mass Shootings’ Are Up 44% Under Biden.Mass shootings have surged during Biden’s presidency, with a projected total of 2,462 incidents by the end of 2024

‘Mass Shootings’ Are Up 44% Under Biden. (thenationalpulse.com)

It’s simple really: the left always achieve the opposite of what they say they are doing. In fact they only ever achieve one thing: chaos.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
June 16, 2024 12:16 pm

Why are so many information sources using computer generated voices and video? It smacks of propaganda – video of perfectly coiffed and made up racially/sexually/culturally balanced people doing stuff that – later when you think about it – have all the consistency of Fairy Floss.
I’m referring to Indolents message about the IMF at June 16, 2024 12:04 am

mem
mem
June 16, 2024 12:24 pm

So another renewable “world first” venture is about to be funded half by the Australian Government and half by the German government. A mere snip at only $40million. The promotional spiel, (joint press release) is cluttered with the usual jargon found in such releases. The idea it seems is that green methanol will be used to power ships and planes. Have ships ever been run on methanol? Could planes? Perhaps someone here more technically minded might explain if this is feasible and economically viable.

“Vast Renewables Limited, a renewable energy company utilising concentrated solar thermal power (CSP) systems, has signed a Joint Development Agreement (JDA) with global energy company Mabanaft to propel Solar Methanol 1 (SM1), a CSP-powered green methanol reference plant, forward.
Located at the Port Augusta Green Energy Hub in South Australia, SM1 will produce 7,500 tonnes of green methanol annually.
Green methanol, a versatile hydrogen derivative, offers a pathway to decarbonise challenging industries such as shipping and aviation, Vast said in a media release.” https://www.australianmanufacturing.com.au/joint-devt-agreement-powers-port-augusta-green-methanol-project/

billie
billie
June 16, 2024 12:30 pm

“Dozens of world leaders converged on Lucerne resort Saturday to discuss how to bring peace to war-ravaged Ukraine“

Diplomacy is a complex artform.

I suspect this meeting of minds in Switzerland is just to get to the next round and so on. The agenda must be pages long by now there are so many details to be considered.

It’s not a simple business for either side since they have to answer to their own people why people are dying and have died.

Statements that sound as trite as, oh they should just return to this or that year’s border, are unlikely to be on anyone’s mind but journalists who want simple words for quick clicks and page impressions. (walkey awards or equivalent)

It’s complicated by the sanctions brought in by the USA (and their colonies in the EU) and now theft of Russia’s foreign reserves. How does BRICS now figure into this? Will the USA accept another international defeat? Will it walk away leaving the dead behind who accomplished nothing but glory for American politicians.

American companies now own a substantial amount of Ukraine farming land, will they abandon that back to Ukraine ownership?

Ultimately, I suggest it is going to end in unconditional surrender by Ukraine, as it’s a war of attrition they cannot win, they don’t have the people and Russia appears able to neutralise any wonder weapons in this theatre.

US special forces are not an army, they are surgical kill teams and most special forces around the world are the same. There’s not enough of them to take on a peer on peer conflict.

The Americans have truly screwed up, and eventually will pull out and leave the usual mess behind.

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
June 16, 2024 12:45 pm

Fox News – The Big Weekend Show – has Trump revving it up in Detroit!
Particularly in a black church.

MatrixTransform
June 16, 2024 12:51 pm

Located at the Port Augusta Green Energy Hub in South Australia, SM1 will produce 7,500 tonnes of green methanol annually.

7500 tonnes of methanol is uncannily close to 10,000,000 litres but anyways

I’m unconvinced and here’s one simple reason …

  • methanol has about 1/2 the specific energy of diesel
  • a big ship can use 5000 litres of diesel per hour
  • you’d need around 2x the methanol to push a ship around so that’s 10,000 liter per hour
  • which gives you 1000 ship-hours

I’d wager that methanol ships would like very much to explode

… which gives you zero ship-hours and coincidentally zero ships

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
June 16, 2024 1:19 pm

Does One Nation have a chance to win ?

Borne, Rocky is nearly 700km south of me but I have worked on tenements to the west and it’s culture is similar to NQ. Used to stay in the Commercial Pub on the river there when in town. Sad to see it go, front bar was always friendly.

Ashby is in with an excellent chance IMO, ALP is on the nose big time out of BNE. The sitting member has a bunch of corruption clouds over her and recently made claims of sexual assault that, well I’ll wait till the particulars before believing her story or not but it raised my eyebrows at it’s timing.

As for Irwin, the family is synonymous with SEQ so I don’t think it will affect manys vote up this way. Keppel has had strong PHON votes at various times as well. Wait & see on election day I suppose…

cohenite
June 16, 2024 1:25 pm

This 2014 paper by several alarmist knuckleheads had great influence on the climate debate (sic) and supposedly showed the oceans warming at figure 4:

(99+) Continued Global Warming in the Midst of Natural Climate Fluctuations | John Abraham – Academia.edu

Putting aside the controversy about ocean heat content measurement the simple fact is that radiation from CO2 cannot penetrate the ocean and plays no part in its warming:

THE HOCKEY SCHTICK: New paper finds a huge false physical assumption of IPCC climate models

Makka
Makka
June 16, 2024 1:39 pm

Maybe. Maybe not.

Zelensky and his gold diggers want pledges of more treasure from Euroweenies and others. While Zelensky will pledge more dead Ukrainians. The losers will as usual be Ukrainian men, mothers, daughters sons, brothers , wives, sisters etc.

Makka
Makka
June 16, 2024 1:53 pm

Europe Swings Right while Britain Turns to Labour + Are the Tories Deliberately Trying to Lose?

The Torie Party is in the throes of disappearing up it’s proverbial. Good riddance for all it’s done over the last 2 decades.

Makka
Makka
June 16, 2024 2:00 pm

107 000 new social housing units are earmarked for the eastern suburbs.

Welcome to Big Australia…you voted for it!

Awesome! I hope they frequent Turdball’s hangouts and shit on his sidewalk.

Indolent
Indolent
June 16, 2024 2:32 pm

Dr. John Campbell

Human fertility

Makka
Makka
June 16, 2024 2:33 pm

@MyLordBebo

Ukrainians protests against the LGBT pride parades and ask the government to ban the LGBT movement.

“While the guys are dying at the front, they impose their ideas here. This is not normal!”

This is normal and it’s the west you are fighting for and with , old mate. Are these the great values your people are willing to be slaughtered for? Bail out while you still can.

https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1801851348666728799

Indolent
Indolent
June 16, 2024 2:39 pm
Vagabond
Vagabond
June 16, 2024 2:48 pm

I see the Melbourne Age, aka the Spencer Street Soviet aka the Spencer Street Stürmer has finally discovered that the pro Palli movement is infested with dangerous muesli radicals. Wow, it’s only taken them 8 months! With such sharp media how can be possibly doubt anything we read there. I’ll lose no time taking out a subscription….

Vicki
Vicki
June 16, 2024 3:03 pm

It is hardly surprising that the poor standards of integrity and critical thinking in the medical profession during the Covid years has led to a reevaluation by some of the entire profession.

For some years a highly respected Sydney Orthopaedic specialist – Prof. Ian Harris – has been arguing that orthopaedic surgery is over prescribed in this country. He is particularly critical of the number of knee and back surgeries that are unnecessarily performed. I find it amazing that a prominent professional has challenged orthodoxy on this question.

He has written two books in the last few years : “Hippocracy” & “Surgery, the ultimate placebo”.

Cats might like to listen to a podcast with this remarkable physician:

https://www.nps.org.au/podcast/episode-43-hippocratic-oath-and-problem-with-modern-medicine

Vicki
Vicki
June 16, 2024 3:04 pm

BTW the reference to the Prof Ian Harris interview also contains a transcript that many (like me!) actually prefer.

Vicki
Vicki
June 16, 2024 3:08 pm

Does One Nation have a chance to win ?

Last week I received an email from One Nation inquiring if I would like to stand for election. I would not have thought that they would be that desperate!

Indolent
Indolent
June 16, 2024 3:10 pm
Beertruk
June 16, 2024 3:41 pm

Anyone that is interested:

Media Watch Dog Issue 685
14 June 2024

https://thesydneyinstitute.com.au/blog/issue-685/

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GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 16, 2024 3:44 pm

I would have thought Vicki One Nation has a good ring to it

cohenite
June 16, 2024 3:55 pm

Lady MAGA, a Trump supporting gay guy interviews pro palli lezzos who prove once again the left are stark raving lunatics with the intelligence of weevils. Israel is a muslim country according to this fat lezzo!

(27) Lady Maga USA https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/15.0.3/svg/1f1fa-1f1f8.svg on X: “Do queers for Palestine understand what they’re supporting? https://t.co/j4vglLfOCO” / X

Cassie of Sydney
June 16, 2024 4:03 pm

Oh boy. Cranky is a pervert apologist for Kevin Spacey.
Very weird hill for her to die on.

Kevin Spacey has been acquitted by two separate juries on two separate continents. One was civil trial in the US, the other was a criminal trial in the UK. Hmm, could it be that Monty is insinuating that because Kevin Spacey is a homosexual then that makes him guilty of the allegations? Is that what he is implying? Gosh, that is a weird hill for a leftist progressive like Monty the pervert apologist to die on.

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Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
June 16, 2024 4:24 pm

Haven’t caught up with most of last thread and this one.

Been busy, including yesterday arvo feeding some very wet and hungry birdies. Currawongs first, with Attapuss’s defrosted meat (how I still weep for his loss), but at least the meat-eaters are very grateful for the cat-free verandah now, not just the edges of it. Strange that we haven’t seen any kookas at all, they must be dining elsewhere. Magpies now come occasionally, while butcher birds and minahs also wait for their moment. Even the young and hungry crow lands on the verandah roof with a thump and caws horribly. When the others are fed, I tend to turn away deliberately for a minute, not seeing him as he knows he’s forbidden, and let this crow creep down for a bite, because crows have to live too, though Hairy objects to this viewpoint.

Then it is the lorikeets’ turn. As soon as some spare bread is wet and crumbed for them over the verandah tiles the flock of thirty-five descend in loud joy and gobble frantically away till not a skerrick is left. They are hilarious to watch with their pushing and shoving. The top of the obvious pecking order is one I call Boss Boy, who was beside himself with anger running with his head down to ferociously butt away hangers-on at one end, then having to run and do the same on the other end of the buffet. Serves you right, greedy, I tell him, so the little bruiser hops up onto my arm then to have it out with me too.

Winter is a tough time for native birds around here.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 16, 2024 5:12 pm

Toon.

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Vicki
Vicki
June 16, 2024 5:18 pm

An excellent site for anyone so afflicted is http://www.coccyx.com which also has many personal accounts of experiences, also links you chase for further epidemiology; Vicki, you might find it help as quite a lot of the comments relate to lower back pain that stems from a bruised coccyx.

Wow, Lizzie! I have been thinking about your problem a lot. Absolute sympathy, Lizzie. I have a fair idea of the pain you have suffered for quite a while. Hope you have read the stuff I posted of Dr. Ian Harris. A second opinion worthwhile??? Damn awful situation.

I have a friend who has had a lot of operations in the past. This was in the days when they fused your spine. She is an incredible trooper but is in an awful lot of pain at the moment. She has just come out of hospital after receiving cortisone injections in the spine.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
June 16, 2024 5:22 pm

Located at the Port Augusta Green Energy Hub in South Australia, SM1 will produce 7,500 tonnes of green methanol annually.

Green methanol, a versatile hydrogen derivative, offers a pathway to decarbonise challenging industries such as shipping and aviation, Vast said in a media release.”

Green methanol requires hydrogen produced from renewable electricity plus CO2 removed from the atmosphere – otherwise it is a net contributor of horrible carbins jazzed up as renewable.

It’s not clear from the puff piece how Vast or Mabanaft are going to achieve this at Port Augusta.

To paraphrase Nazi poet laureate Hanns Johst: When I hear of Green Energy Hubs, I reach for my Browning…

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 16, 2024 5:23 pm
Eyrie
Eyrie
June 16, 2024 5:23 pm

I’d wager that methanol ships would like very much to explode
Not really, CH3OH, the simplest alcohol. Liquid at normal temperatures and pressures. Not safe to drink but OK as fuel. You just need lots of it (2x petrol). Used in speedway and other racing cars at times in spark ignition engines. Use as diesel substitute has some difficulties but can be done.
I like to think of alcohols as partially burned petrol – see the oxygen atom in the molecule.
Octane rating about 110. Will work in jet engines but again you need lots of it. Jet engines will run on anything that burns from straight hydrogen through Bunker No 2 (heat first to make liquid) and probably even powdered coal.
Here’s a nice article https://www.topspeedparts.com/blogs/news/fuel-comparision
Also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methanol_fuel

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 16, 2024 5:25 pm

cohenite
 June 16, 2024 3:55 pm

Lady MAGA, a Trump supporting gay guy interviews pro palli lezzos who prove once again the left are stark raving lunatics

FMD.
“You know that is illegal to be gay in Palestine?”
“Oh, no I didn’t. That poses an interesting problem.”
“And the penalty for being gay is imprisonment or death?”
“Yeah, well, it’s kinda gray …”

Rabz
June 16, 2024 5:29 pm

a 2013 iPad

Indestructible – I can make this observation as one is in my possession and still going strong.

Rabz
June 16, 2024 5:34 pm

Pell was asked about his financial state years of trials, appeals, imprisonment and the HC and (I’m paraphrasing), he said how it was parlous

err, as this esteemed blogue’s most (allegedly) militant atheist – are not men of the cloth invariably impecunious?

😕

Rabz
June 16, 2024 5:36 pm

Yet they should have the backing of Vatican Inc™ when it all goes ‘orribly wrong – especially when you need a gate, mate … 😕

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Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 16, 2024 5:47 pm

Indestructible – I can make this observation as one is in my possession and still going strong.

Unstoppable!

A James Cameron movie that I can get behind. Battle Angel 2 may come out in 2026 from what I can see.

Eyrie
Eyrie
June 16, 2024 5:47 pm

a 2013 iPad

Indestructible – I can make this observation as one is in my possession and still going strong.
I bought one in 2014 for use in the aircraft for all the maps and aeronautical data. Can’t be upgraded past OS 9. The aero program no longer supports OS9. OS 6 was OK with it, then Apple buggered it with OS updates. Can still do photos and email but no longer can install any new apps. Sits next to my PC as RPN calculator with nice big buttons. PoS like all Apple products. Never again.

KevinM
KevinM
June 16, 2024 5:54 pm

Rabz
June 16, 2024 5:34 pm
   Pell was asked about his financial state years of trials, appeals, imprisonment and the HC and (I’m paraphrasing), he said how it was parlous

err, as this esteemed blogue’s most (allegedly) militant atheist – are not men of the cloth invariably impecunious?

To turn the saying around, man does not live by prayer alone.
Why not reward the cloth for their work?

And I am an other agnostic trying to make sense and meaning of it all.

Rabz
June 16, 2024 5:55 pm

Lady MAGA, a Trump supporting gay guy interviews pro pallyweirdo lezzos who prove once again the left are stark raving lunatics

The insanity of modern life, summarised in a mere nineteen words.

Stop this planet, Cats – I need to hop off – and join the one inhabited by Miss Maggie Dodgers for a bit o’ denouncing of the Byrne and his purveying of very out of it music …

Top Ender
Top Ender
June 16, 2024 5:55 pm

Meanwhile in Hobart:

Hobart City Council has apologised to a transgender rights critic, conceding it discriminated against her by blocking her from booking a venue, and it is understood will pay her compensation.

Louise Elliot, a councillor and critic of transgender activism, in September 2023 tried unsuccessfully to book the Town Hall ballroom for a “women’s rights and free speech” forum featuring Moira Deeming and Katherine Deves.

Documents later revealed Ms Elliot was intentionally “blocked” from making the booking, and that emails exposing this were withheld from a Right to Information request.

The existence of Ms Elliot’s booking request, made as a private citizen, was leaked by lord mayor Anna Reynolds to a pro-trans activist, who approached the council to express concern.

Ms Elliot lodged a complaint with the state Anti-Discrimination Commissioner, alleging discrimination the basis of political belief or association.

The Australian can now reveal conciliation has resulted in HCC providing significant admissions, apologies and, it is understood, compensation to Ms Elliot.

HCC chief executive Michael Stretton refused to release a copy of the apology and admissions.

Not denying significant compensation would be provided to Ms Elliot, he declined to provide details.

“The matter has been resolved through a conciliation process and the City of Hobart is currently working through these matters,” he said.

“The matter will be publicly communicated in the open section of the July HCC meeting.”

Ms Reynolds declined to comment. Ms Elliot said she was unable to comment on the detail of the settlement of her complaint, but welcomed its resolution.

“I’m pleased that the extent of the discrimination has finally been admitted and owned by the council,” Ms Elliot told The Australian. “I’m optimistic that there will be change; there has to be.

“You can have all the diversity plans, flags and photo opportunities you like, but they’re worthless showboating if words and action don’t align. What happened to me proves that the HCC’s talk of being inclusive and welcoming is selective.

“I tried to book a public venue and I should have been able to hold my event. It was shameful for the council to censor political beliefs, especially when these beliefs are held by millions of Australians. It’s wrong and anti-democratic.”

As revealed previously by The Australian, several senior staff left the HCC in the wake of the scandal, and investigations, including by the state Ombudsman, are ongoing.

The HCC has refused to release an independent report into the behaviour of council staff but The Australian understands the next council meeting will note a report to be provided by Mr Stretton and outline a letter to Ms Elliot. It is understood the letter will apologise and admit that the HCC, in blocking Ms Elliot’s ballroom booking on the basis of political belief or association, discriminated against her in a breach of state law.

As well, it is understood the HCC will concede Ms Elliot was lied to by council staff about the availability of the ballroom and in a subsequent attempt to cover up.

The letter is expected to concede council staff failed to comply with the Right to Information Act by withholding documents about the incident sought by Ms Elliot.

It will concede Ms Elliot’s personal information was shared with others in breach of the state Personal Information Protection Act.

Ms Elliot said she hoped the outcome was a “big step forward” for the HCC but that other formal processes alleging breaches of privacy and RTI laws would continue.

“Unfortunately, it wasn’t just straight-up, blatant discrimin­ation,” Ms Elliot said.

“The depth of the lying, scheming, gaslighting, privacy breaches, and frustration of legal processes has been astounding.”

One would hope it’s the lord mayor who pays the compo, but I bet it’s not going to be….

Oz with comments open

Cassie of Sydney
June 16, 2024 6:02 pm

Lady MAGA, a Trump supporting gay guy interviews pro palli lezzos who prove once again the left are stark raving lunatics

That exchange perfectly illustrates why the West is now rapidly sinking into an abyss.

Further to the lesbian lunatic and her ignorant mutterings, the most profoundly comical being that she didn’t know Israel was Jewish and the Pallies were Muslim, she reminded me of a character from the film Boogie Nights. straight out of the San Fernando valley, circa 1977.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 16, 2024 6:05 pm

Miss Maggie Dodgers

Nice! The single reminded me of another, eventually I tracked it down:

Coldplay – Speed Of Sound (2005)

Different key, but the structure of the two tracks are similar. Maybe I’m imagining it, but I like both!

Rabz
June 16, 2024 6:06 pm

Kev – if it’s any consolation, I’m sort of thinking that should everythang go ‘orribly wrong with this existence and I’m dying in a gutter somewhere crying out for assistance and no one gives a rodent’s, that there is possibly a supreme being I might just reluctantly invoke so as to smooth my transit into a non existent afterloife…

Until that happens – there is no god.

Look at his record so far – allowing the most hideous evil to flourish.

All based on a bunch of Jewish wallies wandering aimlessly around in a desert composing improbable tales of derring do.

Although I do like the tale of Saul* and his revelation, being as it was trudging on a road to Damascus, after committing many HOP Time™ style atrocitees.

*My namesake.

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Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
June 16, 2024 6:20 pm

Last week I received an email from One Nation inquiring if I would like to stand for election. I would not have thought that they would be that desperate!

Certainly a change in MO by James Ashby. You don’t come across as a florid nutter, undischarged from bankruptcy, with a questionable police record.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
June 16, 2024 6:22 pm

Rocky Doc,
I did note that odd “incident” involving the Labor lady MP. Like you thought something going on. Hopefully it helps Ashby as don’t mind another ON state MP.

In other news great to see Louise Elliot get a win in Hobart. Hope she got good $s out of it. Of particular concern was how they tried to cover it up.

Rabz
June 16, 2024 6:25 pm

BoN – has Dr Mutton renounced Year Zero?

Until he does*, he’s just an uglee “the state needs more soviet style tendencies” freak.

*Which he’ll remain, even if the gliberals renounce Year Zero, which they won’t, because they’re irredeemable imbeciles.

bons
bons
June 16, 2024 6:45 pm

According to Farrell, the barely literate Albanese trade minister, the visit by Li is an opportunity to test whether Dutton will support the “stable, mutually beneficial relationship with China based upon mutual respect or will he return to the old failed antagonism promoted by the LNP that has undermined the interests of our primary producers”.

There is nothing rational that can be said.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
June 16, 2024 6:47 pm

Spent most of today with 14 other people. Most seen and liked the Pauline cartoon.

One lady is a long time teacher. Union member and the sort who a few years ago would vote Labor no matter what. Loved the Pauline cartoon and now says done with state and Federal Labor. Says Albanese too far left. Particularly has problems with Education Qld as she teaches special needs kids. The school where she works is removing the surrounding fence which was designed to ensure some of the special needs kids don’t leave the school grounds. They have also been told to pretty much accept scratching as part of the job and not to do anything about it. Not only will she not vote Labor she is now a Pauline fan to the extent of buying her ON gin/rum and going to vote ON.

Seems Pauline and Ashby will be inviting Irwin to dinner and are planning to send him some ON booze. Not likely he would accept.

Has turned into a massive media win for ON and Irwin on the losing side PR wise.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 16, 2024 6:53 pm

BoN – has Dr Mutton renounced Year Zero?

No, sadly. But your question sent me into a fugue of working out what songs fit. No good answers, but I eventually landed on this one…

Boom Crash Opera – The Best Thing (1989)

Aussie rock!

Top Ender
Top Ender
June 16, 2024 6:56 pm

From The Spectator – singlies be afraid….

Results are in: don’t date Woke
Nick Hossack

It was an odd choice of venue, but I accepted it, perhaps the invitation was meant ironically, a joke, something to spice up an evening, although she would have had no idea about my politics at that point.
I’ve been single now for quite a while and women are so bold and empowered these days, sometimes I get asked out on dates. Women now seem far less shy than I am; this invitation came while standing in a coffee queue.
I was invited to an event at the Sydney Writer’s Festival. I’ve never attended any of these festivals before, as Gerard Henderson’s columns have over the years convinced me that they are get togethers of the self-declared morally pure, left-wing, homogenous, and conservative free zones.
Yet, here it was, an email ticket to attend a discussion of her new book, I Don’t by author Clementine Ford – her case against marriage. The talk was held at a place called the Carriageworks in Eveleigh, the closest rail station is Redfern.
Throughout Ford’s presentation, which was in the form of responses to a moderator’s questions, I took notes on my phone. I didn’t know if I could get a transcript afterwards and suspected her comments would be good material for a Flat White article at some point.
The following night at the same venue, ABC political correspondent Laura Tingle called Australians ‘racist’ which became a bit of an issue for the board of the taxpayer-funded ABC.
It turned out my inclination was good, Ford’s comments were memorable.
To my recollection, she seemed to be arguing this interesting idea that a society’s children should be reared in all-female communities, where the women would support each other and dispense with men. I don’t recall her explaining the mechanics of how it was the women got pregnant; I guess she envisions an industrial scale sperm harvesting and IVF infrastructure. At least that was my interpretation of her talk, but I’ve not read her book where it is probably set out in detail.
To give you some sense of the audience’s, the main crowd excitement arose whenever Ford’s disparagement of men broke from vague civility into straight out profanity.
After the talk finished, a coterie of women rushed and surrounded Ford near the stage; they were like members of the Collingwood women’s AFL team, huddled and scrapping after the centre bounce, all kitted out in black and white, except the pattern wasn’t vertical stripes, rather, the jersey pattern was that of radical chic Palestinian keffiyeh.
My date and I then got pizza nearby; the restaurant didn’t have any standard beers like Peroni or VB, and I was forced to drink a bottle that had a picture of Bob Hawke’s head on the label. When I went to pay the bill, the waitress seemed baffled and uncertain on how to accept my offer of a tip. She called over the chef to work out how a 15 per cent tip could be configured on the EFTPOS terminal.
Then I remembered I was in Surry Hills, where the profound sensitivity to injustice and the sheer goodness of its locals doesn’t it seem extend to something as crass as giving a waitress a tip.
It was during the pizza meal that red flags started going up. There was an Aboriginal dot painting on the back wall, and my date commented on how stunning it was.
I told her that canvas dot paintings emerged in the 1970s in an art class held by a whitefella, well after Captain Cook had arrived. And that the original and authentic Aboriginal drawings were mostly done in sand and dirt, so they’ve not survived rain and wind.
Some, thankfully, were etched into rock, such as that which can be seen at Berry Island Reserve near Wollstonecraft.
She took up my reference to Captain Cook and launched into him. She described him as a ‘horrible’ man and that all Australian land was First Nation’s land. She’d voted ‘No’ in the referendum, because Albo’s proposal hadn’t gone far enough.
She had crossed a line with me, yet that old male weakness kicked in. I told myself that opposites attract, and that girlfriends in full agreement on everything are boring.
There was also this country song I remembered, written by singer Sunny Sweeny, about two politically opposite neighbours who befriended through a love of country music. This is one of the verses, usually sung in duet:

“I’ll ignore all your hippie bumper stickers
And that Ronald Reagan poster on your wall
It’s true that we’ve got nothing in common
But a love of country music conquers all.”

Of course, these rationalisations were not the workings of a truth-seeking clinical mind, but something a lot baser.
She was at least a decade younger than me and at least two rungs higher on the physical appeal ladder. I overlooked her Captain Cook comment for the same reason men for centuries have defied their better judgement and destroyed their lives.
Even so, the evening was increasing strained. Her parents had migrated to Australia from Chile and she and her parents hated Margaret Thatcher for keeping ‘evil’ Pinochet in power who, she said, had Chilean communists thrown into the ocean out of military helicopters. She said Western governments had a lot to answer for, although I noted she stopped short of invoking intergenerational trauma.
Rather nastily, I asked her why her family moved to a Western country if its values were so appalling and had they ever considered moving back to Chile. Her response was infantile, she said she wanted to destroy the West from the inside.
At that, I asked her to stop the car, and got out. It is of course embarrassing for me to admit I had something of a teenage hissy fit. But there you have it.
When we spoke some days later, she conceded being ‘shitty’ and apologised for deliberately baiting me.
Incredibly she even attributed it to ‘that time of the month’. She then asked me to apologise for storming out of the car which I refused to do; obstinance is a cherished right of my white male privilege.
I should have taken Henderson’s perennial advice, and just not gone to the Sydney Writer’s Festival. And, by the way, that’s also the end of Woke women for me. The results are in.
________________________________________
Nick Hossack is a public policy consultant. He is former policy director at the Australian Bankers’ Association and former adviser to Prime Minister John Howard.

Muddy
Muddy
June 16, 2024 7:13 pm

A walk in the woods helps me relax and relieve tension.The fact that I am dragging a body is entirely irrelevant.

From Powerline’s Week in Pictures.
(I am so tempted to make a comment that could bump me up the ‘priority watch list.’ I definitely want to get this on a t-shirt though. And wear it in Eldi [sic] where people have NO respect for personal space!).

Tom
Tom
June 16, 2024 7:13 pm

Like Chemical Ali, Joe Hildebrand is now the Albanese government’s official spokesman on Australian pay TV.

He might as well be working for Elbow’s sponsor, Emperor Xi of China.

It’s disappointing to me that Hildebrand hasn’t had the balls to officially announce his resignation from the Australian journalism business as he transitions to a government propaganda hack.

Rabz
June 16, 2024 7:15 pm

Then I remembered I was in Surry Hills

Back when I lived there (for about seven years) it was becoming more “sound” by the minute. Used to buy my drugs from the Clock, which ended up shut for renovations from 1997 until the start of the Woild Cup in ’98.

The Strawberry Hills Hotel was my first introduction to the place, watching among others, the Moffs.

I just work there nowadays. It’s even more sound – a mixture of hipsters, aged collectivist dinobores and taut young womanages, much as it’s always been.

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Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 16, 2024 7:22 pm

A walk in the woods helps me relax and relieve tension.

Yes…

Wuthering Heights (1978)

Rabz
June 16, 2024 7:39 pm
Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 16, 2024 7:49 pm

Top Ender
 June 16, 2024 5:55 pm

Meanwhile in Hobart:

Hobart City Council has apologised to a transgender rights critic, conceding it discriminated against her by blocking her from booking a venue, and it is understood will pay her compensation

The only reason she had a win was that someone within council leaked the emails which were circulated to deliberate block her booking of the town hall, citing safety yada, yada as excuses.
Without the leaks, the trannie cheer-squad would have simply stuck to their story and she wouldn’t have had a case.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 16, 2024 7:56 pm

dover0beach
 June 16, 2024 6:59 pm

Lady MAGA, a Trump supporting gay guy interviews pro palli lezzos who prove once again the left are stark raving lunatics

It’s just as bad falling for trannies simply because they support you on this or that issue.

Firstly, he isn’t a trannie.
He is a flamboyant dresser, true, but clearly describes himself as a gay man.
And who “fell for him”? If someone points out obvious hypocrisy, does it matter if they don’t wear chinos and a navy blue jacket?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 16, 2024 8:04 pm

Special mention – sacré bleu!

I was hoping for a music video,
Grrr.
Ok here is one.

Kate Bush – Army Dreamers (1980)

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
June 16, 2024 8:15 pm

Kate Bush is quite nice to look at, but she’s got a ghastly voice. She screeches.

Rabz
June 16, 2024 8:16 pm

He is a flamboyant dresser

The Lenster:

Are ye gonna go my way

I’m just a human

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
June 16, 2024 8:19 pm

Some seriously freaky stuff.

My Lunch Break:

The Old World is in The Catacombs? – Part 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJ9tbzXkf2M

Rabz
June 16, 2024 8:29 pm
Steve trickler
Steve trickler
June 16, 2024 8:36 pm

DrBeauGan
 June 16, 2024 8:15 pm

Kate Bush is quite nice to look at, but she’s got a ghastly voice. She screeches.

—–

Not here.

Peter Gabriel – Don’t Give Up (ft. Kate Bush)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjEq-r2agqc

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
June 16, 2024 8:44 pm

Le Monde reported that armed groups in the Strip with suspected links to Hamas looted $70 million from branches of the Bank of Palestine, a leading Palestinian financial institution.

LOL this proves it. Now I’m sure they’re the de facto government of Palestine.

In one instance, the largest Bank of Palestine branch was attacked by terrorist commandos who claimed they were sent by “Gaza’s highest authorities,” which Le Monde said was understood to mean Hamas.”

I can’t even make a joke about it without the joke becoming true just a few sentences later.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 16, 2024 8:58 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uCDw30wCe0

“Wild Mountain Thyme” – the young lady has a voice like an angel, and would bring a stone idol, howling off it’s pedestal.

Rosie
Rosie
June 16, 2024 9:07 pm

“To turn the saying around, man does not live by prayer alone.
Why not reward the cloth for their work?”
They are rewarded though some chose to take vows of poverty.
Cardinal Pell had some super but I’m sure mentioned he had exhausted it paying for his legal expenses which were also paid for by donors, no doubt they ran into milliond of dollars.
It is an an unfortunate that when the state loses egregious criminal cases like this one they aren’t liable for the defendants costs.

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cohenite
June 16, 2024 9:12 pm

Lady MAGA, a Trump supporting gay guy interviews pro palli lezzos who prove once again the left are stark raving lunatics
It’s just as bad falling for trannies simply because they support you on this or that issue.

Lady MAGA is not a trannie, he’s a conservative gay. He can’t help it that his dress sense has over dosed on psychedelics. Conservative gays literally know which side of their arse the butter is on. They know without a stable Western society they’re rooted. The conservative gays know they’re toast if the muzzies or the commies take over. Conservative gays know the left are the useful idiots of the muzzies and commies. Alternatively leftie gays like the bloated lezzos Lady MAGA was interviewing are brain dead.

Men in women’s clothing are transvestites or what are often called trannies.

No, that’s wrong: trannies are blokes who believe they’re women: flamboyant gay men who dress like duluxed chickens still know they’re men.

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feelthebern
feelthebern
June 16, 2024 9:14 pm

Lady MAGA, a Trump supporting gay guy interviews pro palli lezzos who prove once again the left are stark raving lunatics

Caitlyn Jenner is one of the highest profile MAGA types in California.

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 16, 2024 9:21 pm

Tom Brady is a leader of men.

Tom Brady’s Patriots Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony Speech

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bnd_K3dhRk

?

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 16, 2024 9:26 pm

House of the Dragon series 2 kicks off tomorrow.
Kinda excited about it.

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 16, 2024 9:34 pm

David Sachs & Chamath Palihapitiya hosted the Trump fund raiser in California last week.
Chamath participating is interesting as he’s a billionaire who’s previously been a DNC donor of size.

https://youtu.be/NVYMKDiJGcI?feature=shared&t=529

From the 8:48 mark they talk for 15mins about it.

Funniest bit, Trump looked a Chamath’s wife & then said to Chamath:
“you must be really, really rich”.

Indolent
Indolent
June 16, 2024 10:09 pm
Indolent
Indolent
June 16, 2024 10:15 pm
Old Lefty
Old Lefty
June 16, 2024 10:27 pm

On the Irwin- Hanson business, a friend reminded me that attempts to sue over cartoons don’t have a great success rate. Patrick Cook took a wonderful shot at the (allegedly) great Harry Seidler’s modernist and functionalist architecture in his ‘Harry Seidler Retirement Park’ cartoon:

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(The cartoon showed residents standing in rectangular concrete boxes with fook shovelled into their mouths through a hatch and waste shovelled out through a hatch on the other side.)

An outraged Seidler sued and lost: the judge ruled that the cartoon was fair critical comment.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
June 16, 2024 10:37 pm

DrBeauGan

just for your ears only

https://youtu.be/96GJZ2ipvLg?si=tJ960VToiumiXjBg

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
June 16, 2024 11:17 pm

just for your ears only

TikTok advert?

MatrixTransform
June 16, 2024 11:34 pm

Not really, CH3OH, the simplest alcohol.

hmmm…flash-point baby

methanol 9 °C, 
diesel fuels 50 to 100 °C

somebody tell the Houthis

Top Ender
Top Ender
June 16, 2024 11:44 pm
Steve trickler
Steve trickler
June 17, 2024 1:47 am

Classics!

—–

Avi:

M?ori warriors ‘Haka for Israel’ in Australia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUbf6Ys1BMI

KevinM
KevinM
June 17, 2024 2:28 am

Hedgehogs are actually part of quite a long list of restricted animals in Australia, but this pic is cute nonethetheneverless.
I think so anyway.

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Zatara
Zatara
June 17, 2024 8:32 am

The March of Dimes Syndrome

Why have activists declared a “national state of emergency” for LGBT people? Why was the election of the first black president followed by the Black Lives Matter movement? Why, as radical prejudice declined, was there a rise in the number of “hate groups”? Why, as sexual violence declined in America, did academics and the #MeToo movement discover an “epidemic of sexual assault”?

The better things get, the more desperately activists struggle to stay in business.

For career activists, success is a threat. They can never declare mission accomplished.

m0nty
m0nty
June 17, 2024 9:15 am

Hey Cats, if you have any more links to incel loser anecdotes like that one from Nick Hossack, please post them. I haven’t laughed so hard in ages.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
June 17, 2024 7:37 pm

STEM is woke now also. My entire old chemistry dept is working on climate crap.

I can’t help thinking that by encouraging women to do science, mathematics and engineering, I contributed in a small way to the collapse of them all. Mea culpa.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
June 17, 2024 7:46 pm

Mea culpa.

Don’t get me wrong. I love women, I think they are wonderful. But they make very second rate men.

Armadillo
Armadillo
June 18, 2024 9:36 am

This looks all clean and new. What happened to the broken beer bottles and torn lounges?

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