Open Thread – Weekend 15 June 2024


Lake Maggiore in the Evening, Ivan Aivazovsky, 1858

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Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 15, 2024 1:03 am

KaBAM!

This thread dedicated to rangas everywhere. They need something, as they have no soul.

KevinM
KevinM
June 15, 2024 1:13 am

I like.

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JC
JC
June 15, 2024 1:27 am

I really donโ€™t get what your suspicions are about here, Dover.

You had what essentially was a closed economy with every facet directed by the regime. There were import and export controls, currency controls and everything else. Manpower and the other two critical resources – land and capital – were directed to rearmament and you think that clown economy was doing well.

You appear to believe this had no negative impact on the population.

JC
JC
June 15, 2024 1:39 am

Talks a big game, but then people didn’t believe him at Tesla’s beginning.

Elon Musk says the Market for Humanoid robots like the Tesla Optimus Robot will be 1 Billion units per year, and Tesla can make $1 Trillion a year selling them. He predicts that they will ultimately sell for around $20,000 at a cost of $10,000, and Tesla will take at least a 10% market share of the humanoid robot market. Pretty impressive and the world is about to change. Musk believes that there will be at least 1 robot per human and perhaps much more than that.

calli
calli
June 15, 2024 2:34 am

Greetings from somewhere very close to Majorca.

Spent yesterday in St Tropez. Amazing how many tiny and modest wind/solar powered motor yachts were moored there. /sarc

Our โ€œbettersโ€ are amazing at talking the talk. Shame about the walk. Never ever believe anything a Euroweenie tells you. They are all out and proud liars.

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 15, 2024 3:38 am

โ€œIf the West and Kiev refuse, the bloodshed will be their responsibility.โ€

Homer Simpson : Ok pie, I’m going to go “omp, omp. amp” and if you get in the way, it’s your own fault.

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 15, 2024 3:40 am

Footage of Putin eating the pie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YL5JlZ-Fadw

Tom
Tom
June 15, 2024 4:00 am
Tom
Tom
June 15, 2024 4:02 am

Mark Knight. More here.

Tom
Tom
June 15, 2024 4:02 am
Tom
Tom
June 15, 2024 4:03 am
Tom
Tom
June 15, 2024 4:04 am
Tom
Tom
June 15, 2024 4:05 am
Tom
Tom
June 15, 2024 4:05 am
Tom
Tom
June 15, 2024 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
June 15, 2024 4:07 am
Bourne1879
Bourne1879
June 15, 2024 4:58 am

Premier Li is going to get a chuckle out of Leak cartoon today plus probably congratulate his comrade for doing so much damage to the Australian economy.

Top Ender
Top Ender
June 15, 2024 5:16 am
Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
June 15, 2024 5:51 am

Thank you Tom – Leak is gold on the Aussie politics front and Lisa Benson in the US

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johanna
johanna
June 15, 2024 6:27 am

Top Ender, that’s last week’s woof.

I hope Hendo is OK – he hasn’t put this week’s up so far, most unlike him.

The Bungonia Bee
The Bungonia Bee
June 15, 2024 6:33 am

Princess Kate is having chemo for some time yet. I’m appalled at the fuss the anti-monarchists made about some piddling bit of photoshop on her sweet family photo.

Bruce
Bruce
June 15, 2024 6:47 am

They don’t seem to make ’em like this anymore

Saturday flashback

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FW5JllbRPDM

Hard to go wrong with the line-up that assembled that one.

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 15, 2024 7:03 am

Solid ruling by SCOTUS overnight re bump stocks.
The case was about a federal agency adhering to the legislation and not over stepping (according to the Federalist) rather than 2A.
Hopefully this precedent will initiate a million lawsuits against agency overreach.

Sotomayor should really read her clerks work more clearly before it becomes the dissenting opinion.
Kagan should be embarrassed that she is attached to such drivel.
She is far too intelligent.

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
June 15, 2024 7:11 am

Just days after Kamala was pinged for doing her usual word salad address “with keywords community and leader” up pops Kylea Tink saying her term as the member for North Sydney (just cancelled in the redistribution) had been “all about the community”.

Cassie of Sydney
June 15, 2024 7:36 am

The IDF has found caches of Chinese made guns in Gaza. China, through Iran, is supplying arms to both Hamas and Hezbollah.

Noa Argamani’s mother, Liora Argamani, sadly dying of brain cancer, was born in China, in Wuhan. She met her Israeli husband in the early 1990s and they married in 1994.

https://allisrael.com/chinese-government-reportedly-refused-to-help-in-release-of-rescued-noa-argamani

Israelโ€™s Foreign Ministry and the Israeli Embassy in Beijing made numerous efforts to convince China to assist in efforts for Noa’s release, however, the Chinese government reportedly refused to address the issue.

According to one Chinese official, Noa was โ€œonly half Chineseโ€ and โ€œlacked Chinese blood,โ€ which was used as a rationale to refuse assistance. However, according to Minyao Wang, a New York-based trial attorney with Reid Collins law firm, China was obligated to help her because Chinese law automatically extends citizenship to children born in China with one Chinese parent

Throughout the eight months of captivity, China refused to deal with Noaโ€™s case despite repeated pleas from Israeli officials on her behalf. In December, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu told the Knesset he had โ€œinvited the Chinese ambassador and asked him to convey a direct message to President Xi Jinping regarding hostage Noa Argamani, who was taken along with her partner,โ€ adding that he sought Xi’s intervention in Argamaniโ€™s case.

Since Oct. 7, China has blatantly supported and sided with Hamas, despite the deep ties that Israel has cultivated with China over the past decades.

One thing is for sure, the Chinese government is evil. But the good thing is that at least Liora and Noa were reunited. You see, there is a God, and that God works miracles. I just wish God would work more miracles.

JC
JC
June 15, 2024 7:55 am

What I said the other day about the destruction of the WSJ by a limey leftist idiot import.

Header to a very important story. In fact, story of the week.

The Wall Street Journal

While wide-leg pants have been creeping into menโ€™s fashion for several years, this time, they are bigger than ever https://on.wsj.com/45nSK7u

Itโ€™s Remarkable
Itโ€™s Remarkable
June 15, 2024 8:01 am

I see our friend Mavis has dished up a totally syrupy, sickeningly dishonest adoration to the previous ranga PM. Totally over the top, full of spin, with most just verging on making her the image of perfection, almost god-like in her perfectness.
Sickening.

Roger
Roger
June 15, 2024 8:01 am

One thing is for sure, the Chinese government is evil.

I think they’re in the grip of hubris.

Mind you, the same applied to the US under neo-con influence following “the end of history.”

I hope later today to post an article from Foreign Affairs on the China-US rivalry and its parallels with the British-German rivalry that led to the Great War.

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Bourne1879
Bourne1879
June 15, 2024 8:08 am

Greg Sheridan article in the Oz about Net Zero is brilliant.

132andBush
132andBush
June 15, 2024 8:28 am

JC

June 15, 2024 6:32 am

This electoral map,based on polling, looks really depressing. Penn appears to be a must win for Trump and Philly is where they cheat.

You’d think there would be a clear front runner by now, given how bad Biden has been.
I still maintain Biden wont make the election. He’s going to short circuit like an EV battery and flame out in full view.

Peter Greagg
Peter Greagg
June 15, 2024 8:30 am

I made a post on the Old Fred but by the time it made it out of Moderation, the Cat had moved on.

I repost it here hoping some military minded Cats had a view (Dover – I have copied the post exactly hoping it doesn’t “need” Moderation).

Military minded Cats may be interested to hear I was at the War Memorial the other day in Canberra.

A volunteer guide told me that an aboriginal man couldnโ€™t enlist in the AIF in 1914 because of his โ€˜raceโ€™.

I told him that I thought that was unlikely. I noted that aboriginal men (and women) were eligible to vote in 1901 if they had been able to vote in State elections previously. And so I thought as they could vote in Federal Elections, they were likely to be able to enlist.

I was directed to this resource:

“Quandamooka/Noonuccal man Richard Martin enlisted in the Australian Imperial Force (AIF) on 17 December 1914. As Aboriginal people were prevented from enlisting, he declared that he was a New Zealander with five yearsโ€™ service in the Light Horse. In fact, he had been born on Stradbroke Island in Queensland and had no known previous service.
https://www.awm.gov.au/learn/schools/resources/anzac-diversity/aboriginal-anzacs/richard-martin?fbclid=IwAR1JI3BlAlqGHLDuP8OtnZcHiR9y9T1jUvehswSgQmPzA5BkWWnxh3uTlek

Does anyone have any thoughts?

132andBush
132andBush
June 15, 2024 8:32 am

While wide-leg pants have been creeping into menโ€™s fashion for several years, this time, they are bigger than ever https://on.wsj.com/45nSK7u

Kamala Harris has had a pair of those for years.

lotocoti
lotocoti
June 15, 2024 8:35 am

Mind you, the same applied to the US under neo-con influence following โ€œthe end of history.โ€

In Asia, the US have rarely put a foot right for close to a century.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
June 15, 2024 8:37 am

In Oh Dear, How Sad, Never Mind news:
[Unlinkable OZ]

In a blistering declaration, the Clean Energy Investor Group โ€“ which represents companies such as Andrew Forrestโ€™s Squadron ยญEnergy, Macquarie and French giant TotalEnergy โ€“ hit out at new federal guidelines for project ยญapprovals it warns would torpedo the Albanese governmentโ€™s signature renewable target.

The Department of Climate Change, Energy, the Environment and Water has issued a guidelines paper outlining a raft of measures required to get environmental sign-off on dozens of ยญproposed wind farm projects, ยญincluding a specific focus on their impact on โ€œprotected mattersโ€ such as birds and bats.

The investor group said the federal governmentโ€™s renewable energy target would be โ€œchallenging to achieveโ€ under the proposed guidelines, in a letter obtained by The Weekend Australian. โ€œSecuring environmental approval is becoming increasingly challenging, particularly for wind projects. While CEIG supports ยญrobust Environment Protection and Biodiversity Conservation assessments, the current administration of the EPBC Act remains a large issue for the energy sector.โ€

Christ, Tanya, theyโ€™re just bloody birds and bats, FFS. Itโ€™s not like they voteโ€ฆ

Cassie of Sydney
June 15, 2024 8:37 am

I ran into Gerard Henderson the other day. He appeared well. Whenever I see him I regale him with one of my rants. He normally enjoys my rants so I hope my latest rant didn’t push him over the edge!

Roger
Roger
June 15, 2024 8:48 am

Sleepwalking Toward WarWill America and China Heed the Warnings of Twentieth-Century Catastrophe?Odd Arne Westad, Foreign Affairs July/August 2024

Part I

In The Rise of the Anglo-German Antagonism, 1860โ€“1914, the British historian Paul Kennedy explained how two traditionally friendly peoples ended up in a downward spiral of mutual hostility that led to World War I. Major structural forces drove the competition between Germany and Britain: economic imperatives, geography, and ideology. Germanyโ€™s rapid economic rise shifted the balance of power and enabled Berlin to expand its strategic reach. Some of this expansionโ€”especially at seaโ€”took place in areas in which Britain had profound and established strategic interests. The two powers increasingly viewed each other as ideological opposites, wildly exaggerating their differences. The Germans caricatured the British as moneygrubbing exploiters of the world, and the British portrayed the Germans as authoritarian malefactors bent on expansion and repression.
The two countries appeared to be on a collision course, destined for war.

But it wasnโ€™t structural pressures, important as they were, that sparked World War I. War broke out thanks to the contingent decisions of individuals and a profound lack of imagination on both sides. To be sure, war was always likely. But it was unavoidable only if one subscribes to the deeply ahistorical view that compromise between Germany and Britain was impossible.

The war might not have come to pass had Germanyโ€™s leaders after Chancellor Otto von Bismarck not been so brazen about altering the naval balance of power. Germany celebrated its dominance in Europe and insisted on its rights as a great power, dismissing concerns about rules and norms of international behavior. That posture alarmed other countries, not just Britain. And it was difficult for Germany to claim, as it did, that it wanted to make a new, more just and inclusive world order while it threatened its neighbors and allied with a decaying Austro-Hungarian Empire that was hard at work denying the national aspirations of the peoples on its borders.

A similar tunnel vision prevailed on the other side. Winston Churchill, the British naval chief, concluded in 1913 that Britainโ€™s preeminent global position โ€œoften seems less reasonable to others than to us.โ€ British views of others tended to lack that self-awareness. Officials and commentators spewed vitriol about Germany, inveighing particularly against unfair German trade practices. London eyed Berlin warily, interpreting all its actions as evidence of aggressive intentions and failing to understand Germanyโ€™s fears for its own security on a continent where it was surrounded by potential foes. British hostility, of course, only deepened German fears and stoked German ambitions. โ€œFew seem to have possessed the generosity or the perspicacity to seek a large-scale improvement in Anglo-German relations,โ€ Kennedy lamented.

Such generosity or perspicacity is also sorely missing in relations between China and the United States today. Like Germany and Britain before World War I, China and the United States seem to be locked in a downward spiral, one that may end in disaster for both countries and for the world at large. Similar to the situation a century ago, profound structural factors fuel the antagonism. Economic competition, geopolitical fears, and deep mistrust work to make conflict more likely.
But structure is not destiny. The decisions that leaders make can prevent war and better manage the tensions that invariably rise from great-power competition. As with Germany and Britain, structural forces may push events to a head, but it takes human avarice and ineptitude on a colossal scale for disaster to ensue. Likewise, sound judgment and competence can prevent the worst-case scenarios.

Its Remarkable
Its Remarkable
June 15, 2024 8:49 am

Speaking of Ranga KD, did Cats see the sick-making piece by Mavis in the Oz today.
Deifying on J Gillard.

Roger
Roger
June 15, 2024 8:51 am

Sleepwalking Toward War, Part II
THE LINES ARE DRAWN
Much like the hostility between Germany and Britain over a century ago, the antagonism between China and the United States has deep structural roots. It can be traced to the end of the Cold War. In the latter stages of that great conflict, Beijing and Washington had been allies of sorts, since both feared the power of the Soviet Union more than they feared each other. But the collapse of the Soviet state, their common enemy, almost immediately meant that policymakers fixated more on what separated Beijing and Washington than what united them. The United States increasingly deplored Chinaโ€™s repressive government. China resented the United Statesโ€™ meddlesome global hegemony.

But this sharpening of views did not lead to an immediate decline in U.S.-Chinese relations. In the decade and a half that followed the end of the Cold War, successive U.S. administrations believed they had a lot to gain from facilitating Chinaโ€™s modernization and economic growth. Much like the British, who had initially embraced the unification of Germany in 1870 and German economic expansion after that, the Americans were motivated by self-interest to abet Beijingโ€™s rise. China was an enormous market for U.S. goods and capital, and, moreover, it seemed intent on doing business the American way, importing American consumer habits and ideas about how markets should function as readily as it embraced American styles and brands.

At the level of geopolitics, however, China was considerably more wary of the United States. The collapse of the Soviet Union shocked Chinaโ€™s leaders, and the U.S. military success in the 1991 Gulf War brought home to them that China now existed in a unipolar world in which the United States could deploy its power almost at will. In Washington, many were repelled by Chinaโ€™s use of force against its own population at Tiananmen Square in 1989 and elsewhere. Much like Germany and Britain in the 1880s and 1890s, China and the United States began to view each other with greater hostility even as their economic exchanges expanded.

What really changed the dynamic between the two countries was Chinaโ€™s unrivaled economic success. As late as 1995, Chinaโ€™s GDP was around ten percent of U.S. GDP. By 2021, it had grown to around 75 percent of U.S. GDP. In 1995, the United States produced around 25 percent of the worldโ€™s manufacturing output, and China produced less than five percent. But now China has surged past the United States. Last year, China produced close to 30 percent of the worldโ€™s manufacturing output, and the United States produced just 17 percent. These are not the only figures that reflect a countryโ€™s economic importance, but they give a sense of a countryโ€™s heft in the world and indicate where the capacity to make things, including military hardware, resides.

At the geopolitical level, Chinaโ€™s view of the United States began to darken in 2003 with the invasion and occupation of Iraq. China opposed the U.S.-led attack, even if Beijing cared little for Iraqi President Saddam Husseinโ€™s regime. More than the United Statesโ€™ devastating military capabilities, what really shocked leaders in Beijing was the ease with which Washington could dismiss matters of sovereignty and nonintervention, notions that were staples of the very international order the Americans had coaxed China to join. Chinese policymakers worried that if the United States could so readily flout the same norms it expected others to uphold, little would constrain its future behavior. Chinaโ€™s military budget doubled from 2000 to 2005 and then doubled again by 2009. Beijing also launched programs to better train its military, improve its efficiency, and invest in new technology. It revolutionized its naval and missile forces. Sometime between 2015 and 2020, the number of ships in the Chinese navy surpassed that in the U.S. Navy.

Some argue that China would have dramatically expanded its military capabilities no matter what the United States did two decades ago. After all, that is what major rising powers do as their economic clout increases. That may be true, but the specific timing of Beijingโ€™s expansion was clearly linked to its fear that the global hegemon had both the will and the capacity to contain Chinaโ€™s rise if it so chose. Iraqโ€™s yesterday could be Chinaโ€™s tomorrow, as one Chinese military planner put it, somewhat melodramatically, in the aftermath of the U.S. invasion. Just as Germany began fearing that it would be hemmed in both economically and strategically in the 1890s and the early 1900sโ€”exactly when Germanyโ€™s economy was growing at its fastest clipโ€”China began fearing it would be contained by the United States just as its own economy was soaring.

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Roger
Roger
June 15, 2024 8:53 am

Sleepwalking Toward War, Part III

BEFORE THE FALL
If there was ever an example of hubris and fear coexisting within the same leadership, it was provided by Germany under Kaiser Wilhelm II. Germany believed both that it was ineluctably on the rise and that Britain represented an existential threat to its ascent. German newspapers were full of postulations about their countryโ€™s economic, technological, and military advances, prophesying a future when Germany would overtake everyone else. According to many Germans (and some non-Germans, too), their model of government, with its efficient mix of democracy and authoritarianism, was the envy of the world. Britain was not really a European power, they claimed, insisting that Germany was now the strongest power on the continent and that it should be left free to rationally reorder the region according to the reality of its might. And indeed, it would be able to do just that if not for British meddling and the possibility that Britain could team up with France and Russia to contain Germanyโ€™s success.

Nationalist passions surged in both countries from the 1890s onward, as did darker notions of the malevolence of the other. The fear grew in Berlin that its neighbors and Britain were set on derailing Germanyโ€™s natural development on its own continent and preventing its future predominance. Mostly oblivious to how their own aggressive rhetoric affected others, German leaders began viewing British interference as the root cause of their countryโ€™s problems, both at home and abroad. They saw British rearmament and more restrictive trade policies as signs of aggressive intent. โ€œSo the celebrated encirclement of Germany has finally become an accomplished fact,โ€ Wilhelm sighed, as war was brewing in 1914. โ€œThe net has suddenly been closed over our head, and the purely anti-German policy which England has been scornfully pursuing all over the world has won the most spectacular victory.โ€ On their side, British leaders imagined that Germany was largely responsible for the relative decline of the British Empire, even though many other powers were rising at Britainโ€™s expense.

China today shows many of the same signs of hubris and fear that Germany exhibited after the 1890s. Leaders of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) took immense pride in navigating their country through the 2008 global financial crisis and its aftermath more adeptly than did their Western counterparts. Many Chinese officials saw the global recession of that era not only as a calamity made in the United States but also as a symbol of the transition of the world economy from American to Chinese leadership. Chinese leaders, including those in the business sector, spent a great deal of time explaining to others that Chinaโ€™s inexorable rise had become the defining trend in international affairs. In its regional policies, China started behaving more assertively toward its neighbors. It also crushed movements for self-determination in Tibet and Xinjiang and undermined Hong Kongโ€™s autonomy. And in recent years, it has more frequently insisted on its right to take over Taiwan, by force if necessary, and has begun to intensify its preparations for such a conquest.

Together, growing Chinese hubris and rising nationalism in the United States helped hand the presidency to Donald Trump in 2016, after he appealed to voters by conjuring China as a malign force on the international stage. In office, Trump began a military buildup directed against China and launched a trade war to reinforce U.S. commercial supremacy, marking a clear break from the less hostile policies pursued by his predecessor, Barack Obama. When Joe Biden replaced Trump in 2021, he maintained many of Trumpโ€™s policies that targeted Chinaโ€”buoyed by a bipartisan consensus that sees China as a major threat to U.S. interestsโ€”and has since imposed further trade restrictions intended to make it more difficult for Chinese firms to acquire sophisticated technology.

Beijing has responded to this hard-line shift in Washington by showing as much ambition as insecurity in its dealings with others. Some of its complaints about American behavior are strikingly similar to those that Germany lodged against Britain in the early twentieth century. Beijing has accused Washington of trying to maintain a world order that is inherently unjustโ€”the same accusation Berlin leveled at London. โ€œWhat the United States has constantly vowed to preserve is a so-called international order designed to serve the United Statesโ€™ own interests and perpetuate its hegemony,โ€ a white paper published by Chinaโ€™s Ministry of Foreign Affairs declared in June 2022. โ€œThe United States itself is the largest source of disruption to the actual world order.โ€

The United States, meanwhile, has been trying to develop a China policy that combines deterrence with limited cooperation, similar to what Britain did when developing policy toward Germany in the early twentieth century. According to the Biden administrationโ€™s October 2022 National Security Strategy, โ€œThe Peopleโ€™s Republic of China harbors the intention and, increasingly, the capacity to reshape the international order in favor of one that tilts the global playing field to its benefit.โ€ Although opposed to such a reshaping, the administration stressed that it will โ€œalways be willing to work with the PRC where our interests align.โ€ To reinforce the point, the administration declared, โ€œWe canโ€™t let the disagreements that divide us stop us from moving forward on the priorities that demand that we work together.โ€ The problem now isโ€”as it was in the years before 1914โ€”that any opening for cooperation, even on key issues, gets lost in mutual recriminations, petty irritations, and deepening strategic mistrust.

In the British-German relationship, three main conditions led from rising antagonism to war. The first was that the Germans became increasingly convinced that Britain would not allow Germany to rise under any circumstances. At the same time, German leaders seemed incapable of defining to the British or anyone else how, in concrete terms, their countryโ€™s rise would or would not remake the world. The second was that both sides feared a weakening of their future positions. This view, ironically, encouraged some leaders to believe that they should fight a war sooner rather than later. The third was an almost total lack of strategic communication. In 1905, Alfred von Schlieffen, chief of the German general staff, proposed a battle plan that would secure a swift victory on the continent, where Germany had to reckon with both France and Russia. Crucially, the plan involved the invasion of Belgium, an act that gave Britain an immediate cause to join the war against Germany. As Kennedy put it, โ€œThe antagonism between the two countries had emerged well before the Schlieffen Plan was made the only German military strategy; but it took the sublime genius of the Prussian General Staff to provide the occasion for turning that antagonism into war.โ€

All these conditions now seem to be in place in the U.S.-Chinese relationship. Chinese President Xi Jinping and the CCP leadership are convinced the United Statesโ€™ main objective is to prevent Chinaโ€™s rise no matter what. Chinaโ€™s own statements regarding its international ambitions are so bland as to be next to meaningless. Internally, Chinese leaders are seriously concerned about the countryโ€™s slowing economy and about the loyalty of their own people. Meanwhile, the United States is so politically divided that effective long-term governance is becoming almost impossible. The potential for strategic miscommunication between China and the United States is rife because of the limited interaction between the two sides. All current evidence points toward China making military plans to one day invade Taiwan, producing a war between China and the United States just as the Schlieffen Plan helped produce a war between Germany and Britain.

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Roger
Roger
June 15, 2024 8:57 am

Sleepwalking Toward War, Part IV

?A NEW SCRIPT
The striking similarities with the early twentieth century, a period that witnessed the ultimate disaster, point to a gloomy future of escalating confrontation. But conflict can be avoided. If the United States wants to prevent a war, it has to convince Chinese leaders that it is not hell-bent on preventing Chinaโ€™s future economic development. China is an enormous country. It has industries that are on par with those in the United States. But like Germany in 1900, it also has regions that are poor and undeveloped. The United States cannot, through its words or actions, repeat to the Chinese what the Germans understood the British to be telling them a century ago: if you only stopped growing, there would not be a problem.
At the same time, Chinaโ€™s industries cannot keep growing unrestricted at the expense of everyone else. The smartest move China could make on trade is to agree to regulate its exports in such a way that they do not make it impossible for other countriesโ€™ domestic industries to compete in important areas such as electric vehicles or solar panels and other equipment necessary for decarbonization. If China continues to flood other markets with its cheap versions of these products, a lot of countries, including some that have not been overly concerned by Chinaโ€™s growth, will begin to unilaterally restrict market access to Chinese goods.

Unrestricted trade wars are not in anyoneโ€™s interest. Countries are increasingly imposing higher tariffs on imports and limiting trade and the movement of capital. But if this trend turns into a deluge of tariffs, then the world is in trouble, in economic as well as political terms. Ironically, China and the United States would probably both be net losers if protectionist policies took hold everywhere. As a German trade association warned in 1903, the domestic gains of protectionist policies โ€œwould be of no account in comparison with the incalculable harm which such a tariff war would cause to the economic interests of both countries.โ€ The trade wars also contributed significantly to the outbreak of a real war in 1914.

Containing trade wars is a start, but Beijing and Washington should also work to end or at least contain hot wars that could trigger a much wider conflagration. During intense great-power competition, even small conflicts could easily have disastrous consequences, as the lead-up to World War I showed.

Take, for instance, Russiaโ€™s current war of aggression against Ukraine. Last yearโ€™s offensives and counteroffensives did not change the frontlines a great deal; Western countries hope to work toward a cease-fire in Ukraine under the best conditions that Ukrainian valor and Western weapons can achieve. For now, a Ukrainian victory would consist of the repulsion of the initial all-out 2022 Russian offensive as well as terms that end the killing of Ukrainians, fast-track the countryโ€™s accession into the EU, and obtain Kyiv security guarantees from the West in case of Russian cease-fire violations. Many in the Western camp hope that China could play a constructive role in such negotiations, since Beijing has stressed โ€œrespecting the sovereignty and territorial integrity of all countries.โ€ China should remember that one of Germanyโ€™s major mistakes before World War I was to stand by as Austria-Hungary harassed its neighbors in the Balkans even as German leaders appealed to the high principles of international justice. This hypocrisy helped produce war in 1914. Right now, China is repeating that mistake with its treatment of Russia.

Although the war in Ukraine is now causing the most tension, it is Taiwan that could be the Balkans of the 2020s. Both China and the United States seem to be sleepwalking toward a cross-strait confrontation at some point within the next decade. An increasing number of Chinaโ€™s foreign policy experts now think that war over Taiwan is more likely than not, and U.S. policymakers are preoccupied with the question of how best to support the island. What is remarkable about the Taiwan situation is that it is clear to all involvedโ€”except, perhaps, to the Taiwanese most fixed on achieving formal independenceโ€”that only one possible compromise can likely help avoid disaster. In the Shanghai Communique of 1972, the United States acknowledged that there is only one China and that Taiwan is part of China. Beijing has repeatedly stated that it seeks an eventual peaceful unification with Taiwan. A restatement of these principles today would help prevent a conflict: Washington could say that it will under no circumstances support Taiwanโ€™s independence, and Beijing could declare that it will not use force unless Taiwan formally takes steps toward becoming independent. Such a compromise would not make all the problems related to Taiwan go away. But it would make a great-power war over Taiwan much less likely.

Reining in economic confrontation and dampening potential regional flash points are essential for avoiding a repeat of the British-German scenario, but the rise of hostility between China and the United States has also made many other issues urgent. There is a desperate need for arms control initiatives and for dealing with other conflicts, such as that between the Israelis and the Palestinians. There is a demand for signs of mutual respect. When, in 1972, Soviet and U.S. leaders agreed to a set of โ€œBasic Principles of Relations Between the United States of America and the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics,โ€ the joint declaration achieved almost nothing concrete. But it built a modicum of trust between both sides and helped convince Soviet leader Leonid Brezhnev that the Americans were not out to get him. If Xi, like Brezhnev, intends to remain leader for life, that is an investment worth making.

The rise of great-power tensions also creates the need to maintain believable deterrence. There is a persistent myth that alliance systems led to war in 1914 and that a web of mutual defense treaties ensnared governments in a conflict that became impossible to contain. In fact, what made war almost a certainty after the European powers started mobilizing against one another in July 1914 was Germanyโ€™s ill-considered hope that Britain might not, after all, come to the assistance of its friends and allies. For the United States, it is essential not to provide any cause for such mistakes in the decade ahead. It should concentrate its military power in the Indo-Pacific, making that force an effective deterrent against Chinese aggression. And it should reinvigorate NATO, with Europe carrying a much greater share of the burden of its own defense.

Leaders can learn from the past in both positive and negative ways, about what to do and what not to do. But they have to learn the big lessons first, and the most important of all is how to avoid horrendous wars that reduce generations of achievements to rubble.

ODD ARNE WESTAD is Elihu Professor of History and Global Affairs at Yale University

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Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 15, 2024 8:59 am
Indolent
Indolent
June 15, 2024 9:00 am
Indolent
Indolent
June 15, 2024 9:02 am
Indolent
Indolent
June 15, 2024 9:05 am
Indolent
Indolent
June 15, 2024 9:08 am

@TheCalvinCooli1

Breaking News: The House of Representatives has passed a measure today that will automatically register men between the ages of 18 and 26 for selective service as part of the annual (NDAA)

The bill passed by a vote of 217 to 199

The bill now heads to the Senate

Crossie
Crossie
June 15, 2024 9:09 am

4h

Putin stating Russian requirements for peace negotiations: Ukrainian forces have to leave all of Donetsk, Lugansk, Kherson, Zaporozhye regions; Kiev has to give guarantees that it will not attempt to join NATO

Ball is in Kievโ€™s court.

I take it this is Putin’s opening gambit. He will need to give up some territory claims to get to the no NATO agreement. If Ukraine will lose all that territory why would they not join NATO to defend the rest.

Who knew that a minor incursion meant half the country?

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Beertruk
Beertruk
June 15, 2024 9:12 am

The Paywallion:
The trouble with Aunty: groupthink, denial, no diversity
Gerard Henderson
12:00am 15 Jun 2024
Two word explain the ABC’s current predicament; namely, diversity and denial. Thatโ€™s about it.

Unlike the commercial media at a time of increasing competition and declining advertising revenue, the taxpayer-funded public broadcaster is guaranteed more than $1bn annually for the next five years. In this sense the ABC has no real problems. But it is conscious of declining ratings on its radio and television platforms and it has lost so many of its one-time politically conservative audience without replacing them with a younger generation. Which partly explains the success of subscription TV service Sky News Australia.

The ABC remains a conservative-free zone without one conservative producer, presenter or editor for any of its main news and current affairs programs. ABC management and many ABC staff are in denial about this. But no one has been able to name a conservative in any of these roles.

In other words, the ABCโ€™s main studios in Ultimo (Sydney) and Southbank (Melbourne) are bubbles in which essentially everyone essentially agrees with everyone else on essentially everything โ€“ and alternative views are simply not heard. This leads to problems.

The most recent ABC controversy turned on comments made by Laura Tingle at the taxpayer-funded 2024 Sydney Writers Festival last month. The ABC TV 7.30 chief political correspondent โ€“ who was a panellist with the ABCโ€™s permission โ€“ declared that Australia is and always was โ€œa racist countryโ€. Describing Australia as racist is standard fare for the alienated left. No surprise, then, that her comment was greeted with acclaim by the overwhelmingly leftist audience.

It would not have mattered so much if Tingleโ€™s view had been challenged โ€“ this would have led to a lively discussion. The panel was hand-picked by former ABC TV Insiders presenter Barrie Cassidy. He chose four current Insiders panellists: Bridget Brennan (ABC), Amy Remeikis (Guardian Australia), Niki Savva (Nine) and Tingle. Tingleโ€™s comment about Australiaโ€™s (alleged) racism was stated in a stream-of-consciousness manner critical of Liberal Party leader Peter Dutton. All members of the panel are Dutton antagonists to a greater or lesser extent. In short, no one was likely to stand up for the Opposition Leader at such an event. And no one did.
 
 
As ABC managing director David Anderson made clear at Senate estimates on May 30, Tingle was not counselled by Justin Stevens (the ABCโ€™s director news) for declaring Australia to be racist. But, rather, Anderson said this was related to her โ€œbroad, unqualified statements with regard to the oppositionโ€™s budget reply speechโ€, which was delivered by Dutton.

This related to Tingleโ€™s claim that Dutton had said words to the effect that โ€œeverything thatโ€™s going wrong in this country is because of migrantsโ€. She said for Dutton โ€œto give licenceโ€ for Australians to say this is โ€œprofoundly depressing and a terrible prospect for the next electionโ€. This was a clear indication that, in Tingleโ€™s view, the Coalition should not be elected under Duttonโ€™s leadership.

In fact, she had made an almost identical statement a week earlier. Appearing on Insiders on May 19, Tingle stated: โ€œYou know, the hot buttons heโ€™s (Duttonโ€™s) pressing there, I think, are very dangerous for our community.โ€ This was an even more serious warning about the danger to Australia of a Coalition victory. Instead of contesting this controversial view, Insiders presenter David Speers merely commented: โ€œLetโ€™s come back to the budget itself.โ€

Again, the failure of Insiders to come up with an alternative viewpoint contributed to the resultant controversy. When Liberal Party senator Sarah Henderson raised this matter at Senate estimates, the ABC managing director said: โ€œI did not see the Insiders program.โ€ He had almost two weeks to do so.

As a senior ABC journalist and the staff-elected member of the ABC board, Tingle has a special duty to act in accordance with section eight of the ABC Act and behave with a degree of impartiality when speaking on ABC programs or at functions where the ABC has given her permission to appear. This is more likely to happen if her views are challenged.

Six months ago ABC TVโ€™s The Drum was axed. It has since been replaced with re-runs of Tom Gleesonโ€™s Hard Quiz. No loss here since The Drum was insufferably boring and Gleeson is a rarity at the ABC โ€“ a funny comedian.
Watching Anderson at Senate estimates, it seems that ABC TVโ€™s Q+A is headed for a similar fate. Liberal Party senator Dave Sharma raised the Q+A program of May 27 titled Gaza, Ukraine and the Public Square. Four of five panellists were highly critical of Israel, the other was somewhat critical of the Netanyahu government.

Sharma said he had questions โ€œabout the balance of the panel and the diversity of views that were expressed on the showโ€. Anderson responded that โ€œsadlyโ€ he โ€œdidnโ€™t see itโ€. Gavin Fang (ABC editorial director) then said โ€œDittoโ€. The Q+A episode was a rare occasion on which the ABC did not publish a transcript on its website. Enough said.

At Senate estimates, Anderson denied that the ABC deplatformed โ€œother peopleโ€. However, it is widely known that many political conservatives have been โ€œcancelledโ€ while others will not appear โ€“ especially conservative women โ€“ in view of the unprofessional behaviour they experience from leftist audiences and sometimes presenters.

Anderson also declared โ€œwe make sure that we have a diversity of perspectivesโ€. He seems blissfully unaware that one of the problems with The Drum (of recent memory) and Q+A turn on a blatant lack of political diversity.

In recent times former ABC presenters/executives such as Quentin Dempster and Alan Sunderland have told Nine newspapers there is no lack of balance or diversity at the ABC.

But a dissenter has emerged. Melbourne businessman Joe Gersh (a Sydney Institute board member) was on the ABC board between 2018 and last year. Gersh was described by Anderson as a โ€œfantasticโ€ ABC board member. Writing in The Australian Jewish News on May 30, Gersh described the ABC as so โ€œcaptivatedโ€ by its leftist staff that it cannot properly report the emergence of anti-Semitism in Australia. But the ABC is also in denial about this lack of viewpoint diversity.

Gerard Henderson is executive director of The Sydney Institute. His Media WatchDog blog can be found at http://www.theaustralian.com.au

GERARD HENDERSON  
 COLUMNIST

Even TheirGreensALPBC management cannot be bothered to watch their own crap.
 

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Beertruk
Beertruk
June 15, 2024 9:17 am

Gday Dover,

There is a Paywallion article by Gerard Henderson ‘waiting for approval.”

Cheers
Regards

Beertruk

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Beertruk
Beertruk
June 15, 2024 9:30 am

To Dover::

Ta Matey

Crossie
Crossie
June 15, 2024 9:31 am

Trump is holding forth at his birthday rally and has been for about half an hour so far. In comparison, Biden would have soiled his pants and wandered off in the first five minutes but you still get Democrats chanting “Four more years”. Not sure who has dementia, Biden or his voters.

Mak Siccar
Mak Siccar
June 15, 2024 9:44 am
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 15, 2024 9:58 am

EMT and Lex McAuley’s book “In the Ocean’s Dark Embrace – Navy Clearance Diving Team 3.” Good reading.
Navy Divers posted to Vietnam had to do the training course at Jungle Training Centre, Canungra. One attendee notes that Army food was atrocious.

McAuley observes that the Army does produce some excellent chefs, all of who seem to work in the Officers and Sergeants messes.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
June 15, 2024 10:02 am

Redistribution in Vic as well but not attracting the same attention. Apart from moving a few more Labor voters into Nicholls round Kilmore (Very safe Nat) and a few more hippies just north of Daylesford into Bendigo it has mainly been tinkering with Melbourne boundaries.

NSW redistributions seems to be need for a few, see ya Tink & Fletcher and good riddance. Looks like some wrangling on Sydney’s south, south west and in the Hunter. Any hiving off of Hunter near Newcastle may be good for the Nats. Suppose we’ll find out on 17th.

As for WA politics. I stated I wouldn’t have a clue on what goes on over west so will leave that for someone more in tune than me.

Miltonf
Miltonf
June 15, 2024 10:02 am

Thanks Beertruk- the ABC is despicable. What a loathsome old lemonface the Tingle is.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 15, 2024 10:03 am

Dr Faustus
 June 15, 2024 8:37 am

In Oh Dear, How Sad, Never Mind news:

[Unlinkable OZ]

In a blistering declaration, the Clean Energy Investor Group โ€“ which represents companies such as Andrew Forrestโ€™s Squadron ยญEnergy, Macquarie and French giant TotalEnergy โ€“ hit out at new federal guidelines for project ยญapprovals it warns would torpedo the Albanese governmentโ€™s signature renewable target.

That came out loud and clear in last Monday’s Fork Orners.
Greens who up until now had been very happy to hold up the most minor projects indefinitely to ensure the survival of three toed skinks, the last remaining 50 million banded possums and the lesser articulated earthworm, were very happy to proceed with offshore windfarms because “studies in the US showed offshore windfarms have no impact on whales”.
The sceptical scrutiny applied to Big Oil was suddenly MIA.

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GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 15, 2024 10:14 am

I see the Russian Navy are going to do some exercises off Cuba. I take it this is a bit of trolling by the Pute in response to the Thief in Chief saying it is ok for the Ukes to use US armaments into Russia. How do like it in your backyard?

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
June 15, 2024 10:15 am

It was Energy Week at Jeffโ€™s Shed and the whining from the carpet baggers was a joy.
The poor pets are facing big delays in getting their hands into the power consumerโ€™s pockets.
If only they were allowed to build what they like without any regulation or community approval.
Theyโ€™re saving the planet after all.
We fully intend to make their ambitions a marathon of endless torture.

pete of perth
pete of perth
June 15, 2024 10:17 am

Picked up my daughter at the Perth domestic last night. Discovered the thrill of auto rego recognition and was slugged $7 for the pleasure. You have 6min to get get through the express drpoff/pickup. There are two crosswalks in that zone so I recon you would blow that time if you had to stop at both.

Miltonf
Miltonf
June 15, 2024 10:17 am

Fletcher and Taylor- what uninspiring nonentities with their Walrasian comparative equilibrium bullshit.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
June 15, 2024 10:17 am

Anyone available to post the article by Greg Sheridan in today’s Oz Online?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 15, 2024 10:18 am

I’d prefer a Teal actually. Just go away Matt.

Former NSW treasurer Kean to take on Teals (Tele, paywalled)

Matt Kean could be Canberra-bound, with the former NSW treasurer weighing up challenging sitting federal MP and fellow Liberal Paul Fletcher.

You and your Turnbullesque mates are exactly why the Libs are out of power in all but one state. Why vote for Green-lite when you could vote for anything or anyone else?

Miltonf
Miltonf
June 15, 2024 10:23 am

Mind blowing that the little turd was reelected but that’s the North Shore for you.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 15, 2024 10:24 am

KaBamm! I represent that and so I’ve decided to open a poorly cooked smallgood stand in opposition to yours. See, I have got a soul, prefaced by “R”. ps, left handed and other undesirable traits as well.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 15, 2024 10:27 am

Just another day (the NT News):

An elderly woman was sipping her coffee when she was struck in the head by a flying dildo, triggering a massive fracas between a gang of youths and bystanders in a Palmerston shopping centre.

At about 1.30pm on Wednesday, Oasis Shopping Village descended into chaos when four youths on scooters zipped through the shopping centre at speed.

Things turned ugly, however, when the troublesome group hurled a variety of items โ€“ including sex toys โ€“ around the food court.

And:

An off-duty support worker, who did not want to be named, witnessed the moment an elderly woman was struck with a โ€œfat d–kโ€ to the head.

โ€œThey threw two, large rubber dildos โ€“ one of them bounced off the floor and the other smacked an elderly woman right in the head,โ€ she said.

โ€œAnd then the woman said โ€˜Oh, Iโ€™ve just been hit in the head with a penisโ€™, and I donโ€™t know what happened to her because she disappeared.โ€

Then:

Witness Melanie Euhus, 47, said the victim could have been badly hurt by the โ€œmassiveโ€ sex toy.

โ€œIt was probably about 30 centimetres long and it was fat, it was really fat and heavy,โ€ she said. โ€œIt wasnโ€™t normal size that one.โ€

Heroic shoppers came to the rescue:

Multiple witnesses said a woman could be seen with a dildo in one hand while using the other to restrain a culprit.

Refurbishment then occurred:

โ€œIโ€™ve gone out to help and one of the ladies who was sitting down having a cuppa turned to me and said โ€˜thatโ€™s not mineโ€™, and I looked down and there was the gigantic, rubber dildo on the table,โ€ she said.

โ€œI asked her โ€˜are you sureโ€™ before I went and grabbed a bag to collect the dildos while customers were grabbing the kids and restraining them.โ€

Local independent (ex-Labor) pollie Mark Turner:

Mr Turner said Territorians might have to take the situation โ€œby the ballsโ€ and handle crime themselves.

โ€œIf the powers that-be canโ€™t protect us from these rubbery rampages and pint-sized pilferers, weโ€™ll have to grab this whole mess by the balls and sort it out ourselves,โ€ he said.

โ€œThe NT is currently like the wild west meets a bad comedy but thereโ€™s no sheriff coming to save us.โ€

Attention ladeeees in their autumn years – avoid dildo concussion by staying clear of the NT.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 15, 2024 10:30 am

Iโ€™ve decided to open a poorly cooked smallgood stand in opposition to yours

Nice little stand you got there. Shame if anything were to….

Happen to it.

Indolent
Indolent
June 15, 2024 10:52 am
Indolent
Indolent
June 15, 2024 10:53 am
Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 15, 2024 10:55 am

EV chargers are racist.

Where Are Those 500,000 EV Chargers Biden Promised? Turns Out They’ve Been Delayed byโ€ฆ DEI Requirements. (14 Jun)

Did you ever wonder why Biden has spent BILLIONS of dollars on only 7 electric car charging stations ? Itโ€™s because of woke DEI that has surged the cost, slowed production finding people that can actually do it & making sure Illegals immigrants included.

In order to qualify for a grant, applicants must “demonstrate how meaningful public involvement, inclusive of disadvantaged communities, will occur throughout a projectโ€™s life cycle.” What “public involvement” means is unclear. But the Department of Transportation notes it should involve “intentional outreach to underserved communities.”

That outreach, the Department of Transportation states, can take the form of “games and contests,” “visual preference surveys,” or “neighborhood block parties” so long as the grant recipient provides “multilingual staff or interpreters to interact with community members who use languages other than English.”

Finding massive numbers of black, hispanic and illegal immigrant electricians to install EV chargers would be a challenge. Not that many around I suspect. And installing EV chargers in “disadvantaged communities’ would be fun. They’d be raided for copper within a day.

cohenite
June 15, 2024 10:57 am
JC
JC
June 15, 2024 10:59 am

One or two ships would be trolling. 3 warships, one with Zircon missiles, and the Kazan nuclear submarine is a more serious message that if the US will ignore Russiaโ€™s near abroad, Russia will ignore its; Monroe Doctrine bedamned.

LOl. Scary as. Russia’s Mussolini with nukes. I kinda hope they do explodies in Russia as the little fuck deserves it.

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Indolent
Indolent
June 15, 2024 11:02 am
JC
JC
June 15, 2024 11:12 am

More good news:

Kathy Griffin Left Unable to Speak After Vocal Cord Surgery (westernjournal.com)

That’s God or the Simulation paying her back. Lord I hope Trump does a comment on this.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 15, 2024 11:35 am

KD at 10:27

An elderly woman was sipping her coffee when she was struck in the head by a flying dildo,

As we like to say, “the chances are low, but never zero”.

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Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 15, 2024 11:39 am

My boiler is on the blink.
No, not Mrs P.
The hot water service, which also runs the hydromaponical heating.
I see a wood splitter in my immediate future.
If only I knew how to read a fault code and fix it.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 15, 2024 11:42 am

Witness Melanie Euhus, 47, said the victim could have been badly hurt by the โ€œmassiveโ€ sex toy.

โ€œIt was probably about 30 centimetres …

Massive?
I would have said “standard issue”, but anyway …
Also, measurement of these objects should never be expressed in metric.
Always imperial

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 15, 2024 11:52 am

exclusive

Independent MP Wilson Tucker kicked out by landlord wanting higher rent, living out of hotels on $170k salaryJosh ZimmermanThe West Australian
Sat, 15 June 2024 2:00AM

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Josh Zimmerman

Independent MP Wilson Tucker has been forced to live out of hotels and cars after becoming the victim of a no grounds eviction a month ago. Credit: Daniel Wilkins/The West Australian

Independent MP Wilson Tucker is living out of hotels and his car after he was evicted by a landlord chasing higher rent โ€” evidence not even a $167,000 base salary guarantees a home in the midst of Perthโ€™s long-running housing crisis.
A fortnight after he was forced to leave his South Guildford rental after being handed a no-grounds eviction notice, Mr Tucker is currently shacked up at Tribe Perth Kings Park.
He plans to bounce between hotels until Parliament rises at the end of June for the winter recess, when he will fly to Kununurra โ€” part of the Mining and Pastoral Region he represents โ€” and live out of a Prado that currently contains most of his belongings.
โ€œI would categorise myself as nomadic rather than homeless and my situation is obviously a lot more fortunate than many others,โ€ Mr Tucker said.

He is the grifter elected to Western Australian Parliament on a base of NINETY EIGHT primary votes, and a platform of daylight saving…

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
June 15, 2024 12:03 pm

Finally got around to listening to Tucker Carlson’s interview with former Blackwater boss Erik Prins.
First part covers a lot to do with drone warfare, Ukraine, cheap costs and use by law enforcement etc.
From about 1 hour mark he talks about big Tech and how they monitor your phone to push advertising towards you. He knows what he is talking about on this subject. Talk about your mattress with your wife in bed and next day might be fed advertising for mattresses.
This led onto him discussing his “unplugged” phone which is not linked in with the monitoring / advertising tech. Also has switch off plus “data dump” capabilities.
Then Tucker asks him to name countries he is concerned about. Mexico first one with new lefty leader, Narco state and increasing China involvement. Fentanyl in particular. Then mentions Venezuela interested in Guyana and some mid west African countries where US and French influence declining but Russian increasing.
I read somewhere recently about the mass shooter case in California from a few years ago. Shooter was killed and FBI wanted Apple to give them access to the phone. At the time big story about fact FBI being refused access to how to get into locked phone. Seems that was BS as could access. Don’t recall where I read that.

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
June 15, 2024 12:24 pm

Chris Bowen is trying to be reassuring about the offshore wind project.
Nothing will get by him unless it has been examined for impacts on indigenous people, including archaeological sites, sacred sites, and so on.
It’s offshore!
I think his brain has gone walkabout.

Crossie
Crossie
June 15, 2024 12:33 pm

The United States cannot, through its words or actions, repeat to the Chinese what the Germans understood the British to be telling them a century ago: if you only stopped growing, there would not be a problem.

The US doesn’t have to say anything, communist China has stopped growing and its population has started contracting due to its past one child per family policy. I think that this is the very reason that China will lash out soon by taking Taiwan by force as Xi and his military leaders know they will never be in a better economic or population-wise position, that present is as good as it will get.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 15, 2024 12:45 pm

I was ordered to leave Australia and enter a war zone on the same day as my WEDDING. The horrors I witnessed changed my life… but I found one thing to keep the sickening sights out of my mind

  • Navy veteran launched charity to help rebuild Timor-Leste 
  • Takes volunteers to Timor-Leste twice a year

Daily Mail. This lady says she finds it hard to concern herself with what she sees as “First World” problems.

Crossie
Crossie
June 15, 2024 12:49 pm

Unlike the commercial media at a time of increasing competition and declining advertising revenue, the taxpayer-funded public broadcaster is guaranteed more than $1bn annually for the next five years.

Labor may be committed to this funding for the ABC but I don’t see why the Coalition needs to do so when they win the next federal election. In fact, I think they will attract voters if they promise to cut funding to the ABC or even privatise it.

Crossie
Crossie
June 15, 2024 12:54 pm

Sharma said he had questions โ€œabout the balance of the panel and the diversity of views that were expressed on the showโ€. Anderson responded that โ€œsadlyโ€ he โ€œdidnโ€™t see itโ€. Gavin Fang (ABC editorial director) then said โ€œDittoโ€. 

Let me get this straight, the ABC’s problems are stemming from the fact that they are losing audiences yet here we have two of their executives who also say they don’t watch it. Isn’t this an admission from the highest levels of the organisation that “their” ABC is no longer required?

Vicki
Vicki
June 15, 2024 1:13 pm

One or two ships would be trolling. 3 warships, one with Zircon missiles, and the Kazan nuclear submarine is a more serious message that if the US will ignore Russiaโ€™s near abroad, Russia will ignore its; Monroe Doctrine bedamned.

Call me old fashioned, but if this happens I am not going to sleep well. It takes me back to sitting around Manning House at Sydney University zillions of years ago discussing where we would go if a nuclear war begins.

Lord, we were stupid. We talked about fleeing to the Blue Mountains!!!!!!

m0nty
m0nty
June 15, 2024 1:14 pm

Not sure what people find objectionable in Putinโ€™s offer.

As JC said: LOL. Putin is asking for territories he has never held during the war. Unserious.

Glad to see the Ukes getting more pledges of materiel from as far away as Argentina. Hopefully all this stuff arrives in time.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 15, 2024 1:23 pm

Monty – Funny that you should mention Argentina.

Argentina Hits Lowest Monthly Inflation in 2 Years Under Milei Reforms (14 Jun)

Did you know that Milei is one of those dastardly far-right people? He’s seems very competent, for someone so dastardly far-right. Rather like the Prez of El Salvador, who is very popular and says nice things about a certain Mr Trump.

Zippster
Zippster
June 15, 2024 1:24 pm
Vicki
Vicki
June 15, 2024 1:29 pm

BTW for those who are interested:

We are still having trouble with our energy bills – no doubt like many others. The difference is – my fanatical husband takes daily readings of our โ€œsmartโ€ (too โ€œsmartโ€ by half) meter at the farm.

He is now contesting our latest bill which, for example, gave a daily kilowatt usage for one specific day of 41kw when our meter recorded 14kw! I suspect that the electricity provider is โ€œaveragingโ€ and not calculating usage on daily readings. BTW we export power to the grid & for the first time this billing period, we have ended up owing them money. The weather conditions were not relevant, either.

It looks like we will have to go (again!) to the Ombudsman.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
June 15, 2024 1:48 pm

Bungonia Bee
 June 15, 2024 12:24 pm

Chris Bowen is trying to be reassuring about the offshore wind project.

Nothing will get by him unless it has been examined for impacts on indigenous people, including archaeological sites, sacred sites, and so on.

The very snag which the one off the SW Victorian coast has hit.
Who knew the rainbow serpent would turn on it’s handler?

Makka
Makka
June 15, 2024 1:55 pm

Hopefully all this stuff arrives in time

Enough time to line the pockets of the dregs of humanity while a few thousand more Ukrainians get redmisted. What a deal!

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 15, 2024 2:01 pm

Bowen’s Illawarra offshore wind project will go the way of the infamous tide generator. Not a hope in Hell of being economic. Offshore wind projects have been dying like flies lately, it’s rather fun.

Full-blown Financial Meltdown: Offshore Wind Industryโ€™s Collapse Accelerates (14 May)

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
June 15, 2024 2:06 pm

If you have watched it yet be quick as might be gone by Monday as legal letter sent to cartoon guys. It is a very good one not to miss. I am not sure if Bluey is upset as well.
Robert Irwin threatens to sue One Nation leader Pauline Hanson for defamation over Please Explain cartoon

Zippster
Zippster
June 15, 2024 2:16 pm
Crossie
Crossie
June 15, 2024 2:23 pm

None of this materiel will make any substantive difference. The Ukranian position is only going to worsen. Putin made an offer that excluded Kharkov and Odessa. A half serious leadership would have seriously considered the proposal given the situation on the ground. 

Dover, you seem to think that Ukraine will be negotiating with Putin and that they will only be able to negotiate from position of weakness. I believe there will be no negotiations until Trump wins the election and I think he will be a much tougher negotiator than Zelensky.

What if Trump makes an offer Putin can’t refuse? US is likely to start pumping oil at a great rate to push down petrol prices which will impoverish both Russia and Iran. Then other trading restrictions could be waved around. Let’s see how it plays out.

m0nty
m0nty
June 15, 2024 2:31 pm

None of this materiel will make any substantive difference. The Ukranian position is only going to worsen.

Itโ€™s always interesting to read your stuff db, since you are always pushing Putinโ€™s barrow without any independent thought of your own.

Your line here tells me that Putin is trying to lock in temporary gains with a ceasefire, because it is his position that is only going to worsen from here.

Vicki
Vicki
June 15, 2024 2:53 pm

I believe there will be no negotiations until Trump wins the election and I think he will be a much tougher negotiator than Zelensky. 

Trump has given no indication that I know of, that he would continue the policy of the Biden administration in relation to the Ukraine.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
June 15, 2024 2:57 pm

Roger great 4 part article.

Mostly pretty good but I have a bone to pick with his faith in Xi actually caring what the west thinks. Besides the war drums banging that may come to fruition, there are a few islands that Taiwan still owns nearer to China than Taiwan. Watch for them to either vote to “join China” or be invaded then we know the game is on. Chinese actually consider war a waste of resources, they will avoid it unless it becomes necessary let alone an a very ambitious amphibious invasion across 90 miles of ocean.

Other one was he pretty well much wants to throw Taiwan under a bus.

Interesting he didn’t touch on the aging population abyss that will by 2030 be enveloping all facets of Chinese society or the consequences of 10’s of thousands of “little princes” coming home in body bags.

Personally too, comparing Xi’s reign to Deng’s is like the yin and yang. Both are vastly different cats.

As for WWIII I think there’s more chance the brinkmanship going on in Europe sparks something dragging in the US than starting in Asia. Asian states are too busy making money with each other that Europe doesn’t have anymore with sanctions on Russian trade. Not to say it is an impossibility though after the shooting starts.

Then there the unknown knowns like Guyana or unknown unknowns the Middle East throws up.

My 2c worth anyway and thought spending 2 years of my life in the Asian region.

eric hinton
eric hinton
June 15, 2024 3:31 pm

Miltonf

 June 15, 2024 10:02 am

[snip]. What a loathsome old lemonface the Tingle is.

Jeepers. I remember when she was the willowy cradle snatched thing of Mr Cut and Paste Ramsey*. Allegedly.

*To give him his due, his opinion of what was about to unfold in Tiananmen Square was bang on. Something along the lines of, beware the ruthlessness of old men intent on clinging to power.

Cassie of Sydney
June 15, 2024 3:41 pm

The leftist and Muslim scum on our streets who screech ‘from the river to the sea’ are adamant that Israel is a ‘white colonialist settler state’ made up of ‘very white European Khazar Jews’ who ‘stole’ land from the ‘dark skinned indigenous’ Arabs’ after the Zionist movement took hold in the early 1900s, and this Zionist movement enabled ‘very white European Khazar Jews’ to migrate in large numbers to what was then ‘Ottoman Palestine’, which became ‘British Mandate Palestine’ which then, of course, became the state of Israel. They shout and scream that the Israeli occupiers are white, whereas the poor persecuted landless Pallies are brown. But the truth is that there are white skinned Jews, brown skinned Jews, and black skinned Jews, just like there are white skinned Arabs, brown skinned Arabs and black skinned Arabs. Palestinians can be very fair to very dark, just like Israeli Jews. I work with two people of Lebanese parents, the Christian is very dark skinned whilst the Muslim is very fair skinned.

Take rescued hostage Noa Argamani. Noa is the daughter of a brown skinned Sephardi Jewish father (likely came from North Africa) and a Chinese mother from Wuhan. I doubt very much if Ms Argamani has any European blood in her. And before anyone says, ‘oh well, her mother is Asian’, so what, many Lebanese, Egyptian, Jordanian and Syrian Muslims have quite a lot of Turkish and Circassian blood in them, in fact they’re proud of it.

Cassie of Sydney
June 15, 2024 3:44 pm

Itโ€™s always interesting to read your stuff db, since you are always pushing Putinโ€™s barrow without any independent thought of your own.

I’d just like to alert everyone here that the writer of these words is known to ‘always push Hamas’ barrow’ without any independent thought of his own.

Cassie of Sydney
June 15, 2024 3:49 pm

The latest ‘Please Explain’ is superb……it’s still up…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_Z-nS7mtRQ

I don’t think it is defamatory.

H B Bear
H B Bear
June 15, 2024 4:48 pm

The Chook certainly left the nest in an ordinary state.

cohenite
June 15, 2024 5:13 pm

Biden is leading by 9 points with voters 65 years and older; the demented vote no doubt:

Biden’s senior momentum: Why he’s courting older voters (axios.com)

People are fuking stupid sometimes. I think that stupidity, the usual 95% of the MSM on the demented old bastard’s side and election fraud will get the old bastard over the line.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 15, 2024 5:16 pm

Independent MP Wilson Tucker kicked out by landlord wanting higher rent, living out of hotels on $170k salary
Seems this rooster is on a thousand dollars a week accommodation allowance?

Boambee John
Boambee John
June 15, 2024 5:17 pm

Over at Small Dead Animals, report that a company named Scale is replacing DEI with MEI in its hiring practices.

Merit, Excellence, Intelligence.

Sounds like a winner.

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Muddy
Muddy
June 15, 2024 5:30 pm

Lady Liberty Australia (YouTube).

I’m not sure how, but I’ve just stumbled upon this Australian Libertarian (I think?) YouTuber; initially her post of three months ago about the W.A. gun laws.

I haven’t watched many of her offerings (32 videos – most under 10 minutes in length, including most recently interviews with various U.S. individuals), but I’m always curious about a young Aussie who leans in this direction. (Of course it helps that she’s easy on the eye, but I digress!).

Muddy
Muddy
June 15, 2024 5:40 pm

The whole world can be divided into victim and victimiser, oppressor and oppressed, coloniser and colonised, and so on and so on and so on …

Douglas Murray in a brief but interesting 9 minute YouTube video, responding to an audience question regarding the authenticity of the concepts of ‘Palestine’ and ‘Palestinians.’ In the partial quote above, he is explaining how that form of thinking derived from U.S. college campuses.

[I could have watched until the end before posting, because Murray spends only a brief moment on the topic I mentioned. Sorry. I blame the misleading headline].

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MatrixTransform
June 15, 2024 6:07 pm

Biden is leading by 9 points with voters 65 years and older

pope-sniffers

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Muddy
Muddy
June 15, 2024 6:09 pm

If it bleeds, we can kill it.

This was on the back of the t-shirt of a 42 R.M. Cdo. in a YouTube vid (Afghanistan, circa 2013) I’m watching. No rainbow patches or sequinned pompoms to be seen! Of course, this bloke would be arrested for a hate crime if he were on the streets of Formerly Great Britain now. The Roman Empire didn’t fall this quickly, did it? No words can suffice.

(Of course, the above sentence is astoundingly close to the ‘Greens’ motto: ‘If it thinks, we should kill it.’).

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
June 15, 2024 6:10 pm

https://joannenova.com.au/2024/06/20-billion-in-wind-power-across-australia-can-only-guarantee-as-much-power-as-two-diesel-generators/
On a bad day $20 billion in wind power across Australia can only guarantee as much power as two diesel generators
How much back-up do we need for our 11.5 gigawatt wind system? About 11.4 gigawatts.
With construction costs running at $2 million for every theoretical megawatt of turbine, thatโ€™s $20 billion dollars of machinery sitting out there in the fields and forests of Australia producing about as much as two diesel generators.
We have 84 industrial wind plants across 5 states of Australia, and the green band below was their total contribution to our national electricity needs on Thursday โ€” put your reading glasses on.

Harlequin Decline
June 15, 2024 6:14 pm

If WA MP Wilson Tucker is currently of no fixed address perhaps he should consider his skills suited to one of the many positions advertised in the attachment-

Senior Executive Tramp in the Methylated Nomadic Group

Senior Bin Rifler Grade 2

Trainee Wasteground Drinking Companion

Precinct Beverage Operative

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Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
June 15, 2024 6:23 pm

Only a matter of time that the lawyers would be circling. SG have followed the Warsaw convention amounts for compensation so lawyers getting involved is inevitable.

My question is which practise uses these guys or are they fishing for a retainer:

https://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/incidents/it-was-avoidable-experts-say-thunderstorm-to-blame-for-singapore-death-flight/news-story/5c273e0e9f240c1fe35f9114020780d8

Seems these days having your medical bills, accommodation sorted and executives visiting to makes sure you are being looked after isn’t enough for an event that is essentially an act of god.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
June 15, 2024 6:27 pm

Man jailed for raping his wife, who attempted to take her own life twice in aftermath of incidentAnneke de BoerKalgoorlie Miner
Sat, 15 June 2024 2:00AM

A man has been jailed for raping his wife โ€” with the incident so deeply traumatising her that family needed to intervene when she tried to take her own life twice in the aftermath of the incident.
The 31-year-old was handed his sentence in Kalgoorlie District Court this month for one count of aggravated sexual penetration without consent after he entered a guilty plea in April just days before the matter was due to go to trial.
Judge Amanda Jayne Burrows repeated the horrific details, telling the court of how the Kalgoorlie-born man pestered his wife of six years for sex when the pair went to bed on a Friday in October 2022.
Judge Burrows said the woman felt โ€œfrightenedโ€ as he touched her before removing his clothing and demanding she do the same.

The judge told the man any belief he had that the woman was consenting to his advances was โ€œobjectively unreasonableโ€ given her objections.
She said the woman felt bad โ€œdeep in her heartโ€ during the rape that followed.
In the early hours of the morning after the sexual assault, the man claimed to have become scared when he saw a featherfoot โ€” a bad spirit โ€” in the room.
He told his wife they had to move to the front veranda of a nearby relativeโ€™s home, where they slept for the rest of the night.
The woman wanted to tell her family what had happened the next day but was โ€œafraid to upsetโ€ her husband who refused to leave her alone.
When the man left to get cannabis from a nearby town later in the day the woman was so affected by his actions she attempted to take her own life twice, with family members needing to intervene to save her.
Judge Burrows described the coupleโ€™s relationship as being characterised by โ€œjealousy, coercive control and physical violenceโ€ throughout their years together.
She detailed a โ€œlong historyโ€ of family violence including two instances which could have been โ€œlife-threateningโ€.
โ€œYou used a rock to strike (her) to the back of her head and you stomped on her head with your work boots,โ€ she said.
โ€œEither assault could have caused catastrophic head injuries . . . and potentially death.โ€
She deemed there was a high risk the man would commit future family violence offences and declared him a serial violent offender.

“Featherfoot” – indeed.

Rabz
June 15, 2024 6:42 pm

The collapse of the Soviet Unionionion shocked …

… no one possesed of a functioning brain.

Rabz
June 15, 2024 6:55 pm

Sheridini and Blot, mouth frothing about Tucker‘s exclusive interview with the Pute … ๐Ÿ˜•

Roger
Roger
June 15, 2024 6:58 pm

The collapse of the Soviet Unionionion shocked โ€ฆ

โ€ฆ no one possesed of a functioning brain

The CCP had an ideology instead.

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Gabor
Gabor
June 15, 2024 7:04 pm

Rabz
June 15, 2024 6:55 pm

Sheridini and Blot, mouth frothing about Tuckerโ€˜s exclusive interview with the Pute

You enjoy self flagellation don’t you?
Admit it already.

Rabz
June 15, 2024 7:05 pm

The Pute: “Tucker, here’s a half hour monologue off the top of my head about Wussia, Wussia, Wussia’s history …”

That incontinent illegitimate syphilitic ol’ geriatric blundering around the following day: “President al-Sisi needs to open the Mexican border, I tells ya …”

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Indolent
Indolent
June 15, 2024 7:12 pm

The lunatics are in charge of the asylum.

L.A. Removes ‘No U-Turn’ Signs Because They Are Homophobic

Indolent
Indolent
June 15, 2024 7:14 pm
billie
billie
June 15, 2024 7:18 pm

Putin’s declaration is for Russia’s domestic consumption is my cut on this.

The Russian people will see another attempt to work with the west, who they do not trust at all, before the extreme action begins.

Would Putin seriously negotiate if the US, Germany or France were at the table, no chance – would you? He knows the west simply cannot be trusted.

Would he negotiate with Ukraine, yes but not with Zelensky who is a puppet.

Putin is creating the history of this conflict for all to see.

When we look back on what happened, we will see hysteria from the west and rational conversation from Russia.

Time will tell.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
June 15, 2024 7:25 pm

1970 version of Magnificent 7 on 9 Gem. Outta here…

Rabz
June 15, 2024 7:41 pm

The “leaders” of the empty hollow husk that is “the west”:

And tonguing up the rear, in more ways than one:

Vile ridiculous mincing quisling dilettantes.

Cats, if ever this planet was in need of a long overdue and very cleansing dose of HOP Timeโ„ข, it was as of yesterday. ๐Ÿ˜ก

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
June 15, 2024 7:42 pm

Putin says that โ€œToday we are making another real peace proposalโ€.

[South park newsreader meme]
Aaaand it’s gone.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
June 15, 2024 7:57 pm

Bloodsport: Original Soundtrack – Finals

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDbCZaAHEXI

Rabz
June 15, 2024 8:06 pm

the ALPBCโ€™s problems are stemming from the fact that they are losing audiences yet here we have two of their executives who say they donโ€™t watch it

It’s an increasingly rare imbecile that will admit to watching the ALPBC in any company, polite or otherwise (e.g. Sydney Cat pub gatherings).

The ALPBC’s audience is as endangered as dodos and hopefully soon as extinct.

m0nty
m0nty
June 15, 2024 8:11 pm

When we look back on what happened, we will see hysteria from the west and rational conversation from Russia.

Straight up Pravda nonsense. That is what the Cat is reduced to these days.

Rabz
June 15, 2024 8:11 pm

In other wonderful news, Scotbland have been Mannschafted … ๐Ÿ™‚

JC
JC
June 15, 2024 8:12 pm

Russian malevolence is always there. The only reason Russiaโ€™s Benito came up with this โ€œpeaceโ€ plan was to try and scupper the current talks in Switzerland.

Rabz
June 15, 2024 8:15 pm

Indeed, mUttles, there’s nothing I enjoy more than purveying a bit o’ Pravda*.

*As opposed to the garudain

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
June 15, 2024 8:16 pm

Tom MacDonald – “Me vs. You”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=najeyO0CuXw

A fairly good rap summary of the American red vs blue arguments, emphasising the resultant division may be the real design.

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Bourne1879
Bourne1879
June 15, 2024 8:18 pm

The below Patrick Beth David episode has a very interesting few minutes starting at 1hr 46 mins. It concerns Biden and recent footage of him and something unusual about his neck that might suggest a mask. PBD then mentions he previously interviewed the chief disguise maker of CIA. Shows a pic of her in office of Bush Senior. She is briefing him wearing a mask and he does not know. That was around 1990. She says could make a twin. They also show other recent Biden comparison footage and discuss why it might be done. Very interesting to say the least.

They also discuss Kevin Spacey’s acting ability regarding appearance on Piers Morgan a few days ago.

Kevin Spacey EXPOSED, Elon Musk vs Apple, Hunter Biden A Convicted Felon | PBD Podcast | Ep. 424

Rabz
June 15, 2024 8:21 pm

Pravda, breaking some serious nooze worthy ground again:

Cat dies of heat in its carrier on board Moscow-Antalya flight ๐Ÿ˜•

Harlequin Decline
June 15, 2024 8:23 pm

Rockdoctor,

The Singapore museum you referred to earlier may have been the Museum of Asian Civilisations.

Concerning real racial discrimination(not the bullshit that gets in the media these days), in the 1980’s various mainland Chinese government run attractions had 3 prices-

Chinese
Overseas Chinese
The rest of the world

No guesses which was the most expensive.

The price discrimination based on race is still the case in India and several SE Asian countries. In some cases foreigners pay 10x the indigenous rate.

JC
JC
June 15, 2024 8:28 pm

What does this remind you of?

What was the Sudetenland and why did Germany want to annex it?

The northern part of Czechoslovakia was known as the Sudetenland. The Sudetenland was desired by Germany not only for its territory, but also because a majority of its population were ‘ethnically’ German. In the summer of 1938 Hitler demanded the annexation of the Sudetenland into Germany.

Top Ender
Top Ender
June 15, 2024 8:34 pm

Off the ship and on a Greek island. Have to remember to do no walks in the sun.

Rabz
June 15, 2024 8:37 pm

What does this remind you of?

The 2010 Eruption of the Eyjafjallajรถkull Volcano, I tells ya!

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
June 15, 2024 8:44 pm

Returned from a day of outdoor pursuits.

Not a single dildo to be seen.

Not one.

Rosie
Rosie
June 15, 2024 8:53 pm

Speaking of being struck by passing objects.
Yesterday after getting a coffee I was walking back to my car and glancing to my left saw a temporary council sign telling me to beware of swooping birds, too late, it had swooping in from behind on the right and caught me just below the right eye.
Was a Butcher Bird.
I’ve been swooped by maggies and a wattle bird but this was my first butcher’s of a swooping butcher not to mention first contact swoop.

Rosie
Rosie
June 15, 2024 9:10 pm
Steve trickler
Steve trickler
June 15, 2024 9:15 pm

The opening clip. He got what he deserved as do the others that follow on.

—-

Steve Inman:

Top 5
https://rumble.com/v51n2ak-top-5.html

Rosie
Rosie
June 15, 2024 9:31 pm

Opportunity to understand why Israel does not follow failed strategies of Iraq and Afghanistan.
https://nypost.com/2024/06/13/opinion/israel-is-winning-war-in-gaza-and-has-plans-for-what-happens-next/

Indolent
Indolent
June 15, 2024 9:43 pm
GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 15, 2024 9:44 pm

Been watching Call to Spy on SBS on demand. Story of Virginia Hall in WWII, an SOE and then OSS operative. Recomend.

KevinM
KevinM
June 15, 2024 10:49 pm

Never taken to tea myself, I symphatise.

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BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
June 15, 2024 10:51 pm

Just got my oven thermometer checker tingy.
No frigging wonder the bread keeps burning – the oven at set temp of 110 c, is actually cooking at 140 c.

KevinM
KevinM
June 15, 2024 11:34 pm

One for Strickler.

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Cassie of Sydney
June 15, 2024 11:55 pm

They also discuss Kevin Spaceyโ€™s acting ability regarding appearance on Piers Morgan a few days ago.

I watched in full the Kevin Spacey appearance on Piers Morgan. I found Spacey sincere. What was done to him was shocking, no different to what was done to Cardinal George Pell, Craig McLachlan, John Jarratt, Geoffrey Rush and others. All guilty until proven innocent, all had their lives and careers destroyed. Almost all of the allegations against Spacey were hogwash and proven to be lies. But his career is terminated, and he’s broke. Much like Pell and McLachlan.

I don’t know what Kevin Spacey is like a a human being. Given the last seven years, he’s had a lot of time for self reflection. But you can see he’s shattered. He was falsely accused, like Pell, Jarratt and others were. I don’t know what others think but quite frankly I’m sick and tired of seeing people, mainly men, having their lives and careers utterly ruined by jealous, rapacious and mendacious individuals with grudges.

As for those who claim, as they did (and still do) about Pell, McLachlan and others that….oh, there’s more than one accuser which means that they must be guilty, I say to that….bollocks and bullshit. We’re living in time of Salem on steroids. Once upon a time societies were plagued by witchcraft hysteria, in 2024 societies are plagued by sexual assault hysteria. It’s a contagion, and we’re enabling vindictive individuals with grudges, aided by social media and a biased mainstream media, to destroy people.

In Salem, it took only a few young hysterical girls to accuse numerous innocent men and women of the crime of witchcraft. These girls were the chief accusers, and their accusations led to the execution of nineteen innocent men and women. It’s clear we’ve learnt nothing.

We now live in a society where accusations of sexual assault are thrown around like ping pong balls yet when real sexual assault and violence happens, such as the Muslim rape gangs in the UK, where gangs of Muslim Pakistani males rape white working class British girls, and the sexual violence by Muslim males on 7 October 2023 against Jewish girls and women, suddenly there’s nothing to see here. So forgive me, I now take with a grain of salt anyone who shouts ‘sexual assault’, particularly at a celebrity because I am reminded of Ann Putnam shouting ‘witch’ at those she disliked and was jealous of and who she was determined to destroy…and she did destroy them, because those she accused were put to death.

Indolent
Indolent
June 16, 2024 12:04 am
Tom
Tom
June 16, 2024 4:03 am
Gabor
Gabor
June 16, 2024 5:33 am

Cassie of Sydney
June 15, 2024 11:55 pm

They also discuss Kevin Spaceyโ€™s acting ability regarding appearance on Piers Morgan a few days ago.

I can honestly say I never heard of him or seen any of his acting, not being a movie goer or TV watcher, living under a rock in this regard.

But now that you mentioned him, I looked it up and read as much as is available.

There is something disastrously wrong with our justice system, you can accuse someone of anything, specially of a sexual nature and when proven innocent, the accuser walks away laughing, no punishment.

That is wrong, wrong.

feelthebern
feelthebern
June 16, 2024 6:30 am

There’s a generation of apple products that last forever.
Currently tapping away on an 2011 Mac Book Pro.
Also, have a 2013 iPad.
Both live on the bedside table & have survived many many disasters.

In between these and my current Mac Book Pro & primary iPad I’ve had one lap top last only 4 years and two other ipads brick & die on me.
When the current primary ones die, the old faithful bedside table hardware will be living long & prospering.

Maybe the dents in the laptop from a Weimaraner stepping on it somehow pro-longed it’s life.

Top Ender
Top Ender
June 16, 2024 6:34 am

Kevin Spacey was excellent in House of Cards, the US program, before it went a bit silly in the final series.

Also compelling in Se7en, the movie.

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
June 16, 2024 6:37 am

Matt Thistlethwaite of the Liars & Shaggers Party:
Via Sky News – Australians want action on climate change.
Yeah, right. We want our nation impoverished and creeps like you elevated to elite government over us serfs.

Miltonf
Miltonf
June 16, 2024 7:41 am

Reading about the physical attacks on Nigel Farage and others on spiked. The meja essentially saying they brought it on themselves. The meja really are despicable and beneath contempt. Smug but dumb as dogshit and nasty to boot.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 16, 2024 7:45 am

Bern, I’ve got an HP laptop 20 years old runs XP, still the best. Battery doesn’t work but I run it plugged in. On ethernet it downloads at 1Gb. I’m about 100 metres from the node. Makes me think all the bloatware in newer operating systems and WiFi slows them down.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 16, 2024 7:54 am

Bob something wrong there with your temperature. Normal size loaf should be 185 C for 25 minutes, thereabouts. Small dish of water to stop the crust drying too much.

lotocoti
lotocoti
June 16, 2024 7:56 am

If you thought a political party not knowing what a woman is would be an automatic fail for a RadFem, you’d be wrong.

Pogria
Pogria
June 16, 2024 8:18 am

A giggle for a Sunny Sunday morning. ๐Ÿ˜€

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Cassie of Sydney
June 16, 2024 8:20 am

Further to Kevin Spacey, in 2022 Spacey faced a US court in a civil suit. The accuser claimed that Spacey had once climbed on top of him (when the accuser was a boy of 14) and made sexual advances towards him. The New York jury sided with Spacey and the case was thrown out.

In 2023, in London, Spacey faced nine criminal charges, including seven sexual assault counts and two of indecent assault, against four men. 
But after deliberating for 12 hours, the jury found Spacey not guilty on all charges.

But the damage is done, which is what hysterical contagions do. Contagions are like acids, they destroy everything in their way, and so the career of perhaps the finest actor of our generation is finished. Spacey is also. I remember in the aftermath of the Pell HC verdict, how the next day Pell sat down with Andrew Bolt to speak. Pell was asked about his financial state years of trials, appeals, imprisonment and the HC and (I’m paraphrasing), he said how it was parlous. Defending yourself against lies shatters and destroys you physically, emotionally AND financially.

Further to contagions and false allegations, just a few weeks ago I read of yet another Catholic priest being falsely accused and then having all charges dropped because it was all all a crock of shit. Despite dodgy evidence, the QLD police charged the priest.The case collapsed because it was BULLSHIT.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-05-28/child-sex-abuse-charges-against-qld-priest-david-lancini-dropped/103901084

Miltonf
Miltonf
June 16, 2024 8:27 am

Just look at the way that guy at QUT was treated. Luckily there was a good barrister who defended him pro bono. Talk about Stalinism. To think that Canbra steals our money to pay for this evil.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
June 16, 2024 8:30 am

Further to my Kevin Spacey comment from PBD episode.

I have not watched the original Spacey on Piers Morgan although read about it. He basically said he was having to sell Baltimore home to cover bills. I did see something after saying this was put off. He got emotional whilst discussing the matter.

The PBD discussion was about Spaceys financial status as he apparently has homes in NY and London. Plus they debated whether his emotions were real or acting.

Another interesting point was that Spacey mentioned a plane trip to Africa with Epstein and Bill Clinton and that there were young girls aboard which he did not approve of.

As far as Spaceys innocence goes he has admitted he was “handsey” not I agree he is no Weinstein.

As for Jarrod Hayne his life has been ruined and any further retrial should result in an uproar. 3 trials already and served majority of his time.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
June 16, 2024 8:34 am

Well done Pauline !

Front page of Courier Mail headline is “Crikey” and refers to the legal stoush between her and Robert Irwin.

Really going to boost knowledge about her cartoon series.

Miltonf
Miltonf
June 16, 2024 8:39 am

It’s rather good that. Pauline is still in the Parliament but Howard, Abbott and Costello are gone. How diminished those 3 are.

Crossie
Crossie
June 16, 2024 8:51 am

Bourne1879

 June 16, 2024 8:34 am

Well done Pauline !

Front page of Courier Mail headline is โ€œCrikeyโ€ and refers to the legal stoush between her and Robert Irwin.

Really going to boost knowledge about her cartoon series.

Irwin’s actions will make sure that millions see the cartoon. There may even be some people asking Bobby which part he objects to, which part is untrue. Some may even ask him what he is doing to help stop youth crime etc.

Irwins may find that it would have been better had they said nothing.

Cassie of Sydney
June 16, 2024 9:03 am

I remember how a year or two ago I went ape shit at a dinner, shouting at a person because he insisted to me that Cardinal George Pell, despite the HC verdict, could be and should be guilty. Why? Well, you see, because this person doesn’t like the Catholic Church and didn’t like Pell, so that makes Pell guilty in his dim eyes. A justice system operating on whether you like a particular person or not, or whether you like their religion or not. Naturally, never one to sit back in silence, I lost my block at the dinner table. I yelled at this person that ‘he wanted Pell to be guilty” not because Pell might or might not be guilty, but because he doesn’t like Pell. Who needs evidence, let’s trash the presumption of innocence. The whole case against Pell was built upon a crock of lies and shit. And before I calmed down I said to this man at the dinner table that I hope one he is falsely accused of a crime he did not commit, and then perhaps he’ll understand what George Pell, Craig McLachlan, John Jarratt, Kevin Spacey, Geoffrey Rush, and the not so famous David Lancini and others have endured, and have had their lives and careers ruined.

Anders
Anders
June 16, 2024 9:06 am

Reading about the physical attacks on Nigel Farage and others on spiked. The meja essentially saying they brought it on themselves. The meja really are despicable and beneath contempt. Smug but dumb as dogshit and nasty to boot.

They didn’t have that opinion about George Floyd – a man with a very bad criminal record.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
June 16, 2024 9:12 am

Quite honestly if you’re accused of a sexual assault and are innocent you’d be better off killing the person. More likely to get off as they have to prove you did it. Not a balance of probability with the activist drudge having his finger on the scale. How I loathe the Judiciary.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 16, 2024 9:23 am

Why โ€˜The Acolyteโ€™ Creator Leslye Headland Is Everything Wrong With Hollywood

Lesbian Star Wars With Witches is doing badly, as you would expect. But it’s fun to watch what happens when Disney makes something without any taint of woke.

Nolte: Disneyโ€™s Non-Woke โ€˜Inside Out 2โ€™ Opens Huge at Box Office (15 Jun)

The Disney Grooming Syndicateโ€™s Pixar division has a huge hit on its hands with Inside Out 2, a movie made for Normal People without any attached controversies involving homosexuality, child grooming, transvestites, transsexuals, gender-swapping, race-swapping, or anything close to woke.

As of Friday night, the sequel to the 2015 hit has already grossed $60 million and is looking at an opening weekend haul of $140-$145 million. 

Which underlines that people still want to go to the movies…so long as what’s on offer isn’t woke.

Roger
Roger
June 16, 2024 9:25 am

I was met with some scepticism here last year when I predicted that NSW Labor would soon be building medium density social housing projects in Sydney’s leafy eastern suburbs, despite the housing minister having clearly announced her intentions.

Now the NSW government is appropriating building approval powers from local councils in order to fast track such developments regardless of the objections of local residents.

107 000 new social housing units are earmarked for the eastern suburbs.

Welcome to Big Australia…you voted for it!

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132andBush
132andBush
June 16, 2024 9:27 am

107 000 new social housing units are earmarked for the eastern suburbs.

How many in Teal electorates?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
June 16, 2024 9:36 am

107 000 new social housing units are earmarked for the eastern suburbs.

Sounds like a great time for the Liberal Party to announce they will construct several nuclear power stations in Labor electorates…

Roger
Roger
June 16, 2024 9:37 am

How many in Teal electorates?

I don’t have an electoral map in front of me, but you’d have to assume a good portion of them.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
June 16, 2024 9:41 am

Pauline v Irwin on the 4 BC news bulletin and she will be interviewed about after 10.

Plus she had a 2 page spread in Courier Mail by journalist who does regular columns about pub lunch with a politician. In this case she was with her chief of staff James Ashby and the pub was in Rockhampton. Apparently they are both minor part owners. Good publicity for the pub plus should be noted Ashby running for state seat of Yeppoon which is that area.

Is Rock doc around or anybody else from that area. Does One Nation have a chance to win ?

If Ashby wins does that mean a place as chief of staff for Craig Kelly who has switched to her party?

Pauline is 70 and has another 4 years to go. Would she go again until 80?

I would like to see Ralph Babet switch to ON as Palmer party clearly no more. Plus Senator Rennick who was disendorsed by Libs.

Crossie
Crossie
June 16, 2024 9:44 am

Funny how audio problems on Sky News happen only during Outsiders program, never during Andrew Clennell’s hour before them. Might be something for Sky management to look into.

Miltonf
Miltonf
June 16, 2024 9:50 am

Babet seems to be doing ok and I would def vote for him again. I don’t think he expected to win but there you go.

Roger
Roger
June 16, 2024 9:50 am

 A justice system operating on whether you like a particular person or not, or whether you like their religion or not. 

I wrote at the time that it was our Dreyfus affair.

As unpleasant as the “sectarianism” of old Australia was at times, I don’t think it was ever weaponised in the justice system in the way that identity politics has recently been used by the prog-left with the tacit or open approval of so many who should know better.

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Diogenes
Diogenes
June 16, 2024 9:54 am

Great news. On Wednesday night, I suffered total kidney failure ( unknown cause – suspected to be a combination of oral chemo, contrast agents for CT scans and antibiotics used to get get my fever under control). This morning’s blood test is showing signs that the kidneys have started to come back.

For the last few days, I’ve been so close to starting dialysis

  1. Leak is quite correct – but the culprits also include the media, the enviro-loons, certain rich funders of left politics,…

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