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Barry
Barry
August 15, 2024 10:33 pm

Speaking of price fixing and shortages.

Intravenous scandal: the excuses are fluid

Amid growing questions over the transparency of the response to the crisis, it has emerged that Australia is the only country experiencing a major supply shortage of IV fluid.

The Therapeutic Goods Administration is insisting that there is a global shortage of IV ­fluids such as saline ‘due to global supply limitations, unexpected increases in demand and manufacturing capacity constraints’.

A shortage of intravenous IV fluid bags that is causing chaos in ­Australian hospitals is being dubbed “the ultimate example of poor procurement policy”, as the medicine regulator’s claims of a widespread global shortage is contradicted by health authorities around the world.

Australia’s only onshore IV fluid manufacturer, which has a factory in western Sydney, is still supplying adequate stock to New Zealand, as medics and pharma ­insiders say they are “mystified” as to why Australia appears to be the only country significantly impacted by what regulators say is a global shortage.

Top. Men.

Indolent
Indolent
August 15, 2024 10:44 pm
Indolent
Indolent
August 15, 2024 10:46 pm

This is the WSJ

Kamala Harris Will Pay You Not to Work

A recent study confirms that universal basic income—no-strings-attached benefit checks offered to recipients regardless of need or contribution to the program—discourages work. That’s relevant to the presidential race. Kamala Harris has called more than once for paying UBI-like benefits.

Participants in the UBI program worked nearly 1½ hours less a week on average, and unemployment rose. Other adults in recipient households reduced their work effort, too. Overall, the study found for every dollar in benefits, “total household income excluding the transfers fell by at least 21 cents.”

Zatara
Zatara
August 15, 2024 11:42 pm

Kamala Harris to Give Speech in North Carolina This Week Blaming Grocery Stores and Corporations for High Food Prices

So Kamala Harris is going to (pretend to) counter the high prices (she caused) by instituting some kind of communist government price controls on grocery stores.

1) Cause inflation

2) Blame sellers of food

3) Profit on ignorant voters

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
August 15, 2024 11:51 pm

Zatara

Kulaks
Wreckers
Parasites
Tremble before Kameltoes fury!!

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Steve trickler
Steve trickler
August 16, 2024 12:42 am

Emotional stuff.

My first time hearing this song.

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Mazzy Star:

Mazzy Star – Look On Down From The Bridge

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwVXkM_YxMg

shatterzzz
August 16, 2024 12:42 am

There is no logic in Winning in Western Sydney and losing everywhere else.

The problem for Labor is that because the western Sydney seats were alwayz considered “rust-on” they were allocated to, favoured, “pardy” luvvies .. Now the warning bells are ringing it is all hands on deck to save the “pardy” faithful members troughin’ in those seats …
The laff is that the one seat that is, possibly, safe is the “turtle’s” McMAHON .. tho very heavy in musso voters they aren’t the branch(s)who would be concerned about Gaza/Hamas

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 16, 2024 1:21 am

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
 August 15, 2024 9:55 pm

Comment awaiting approval.

Why does this appear on a bunch of your posts?

Rosie
Rosie
August 16, 2024 1:37 am

Probably won’t be continuing on with transitioning.
Poor girl.
https://www.neurology.org/doi/10.1212/WNL.0000000000202704

Zatara
Zatara
August 16, 2024 1:58 am

Secret Service Agent Abandoned Post at North Carolina Trump Event to Nurse Baby

The site agent went to do one final sweep of the walking route and found the agent breast-feeding her child in a room that is supposed to be set aside for important Secret Service official work. According to Crabtree, the agent had no permission to leave her post, and she did not warn the site event agent.

The agent and two family members bypassed the Uniformed Division checkpoint and were escorted by a event staffer (who also had not been cleared) into the room to breastfeed, the sources said.

Un-freaking-believable on so many levels. DEI, entitled woman in the work force, accountability, judgement, discipline, oversight, competence, etc..

It appears that the USSS officer in charge of site prep for Trump’s visits is still in that role after the assassination fiasco.

KevinM
KevinM
August 16, 2024 2:52 am

Another of those I didn’t know about, probably because I have little to no interest in the movie world and actors.

But this has touched a nerve, they are human after all.

For those who most likely know all about it, please scroll.

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In 1978, a young Meryl Streep was on the verge of becoming the greatest actress of her generation. She was also about to lose the love of her life.
“She doesn’t talk about it much,” says Michael Schulman, author of the Streep biography “Her Again.” “But that year was so wildly eventful and dramatic in her life. It was instrumental in shaping who she was as a person and an actor.”

Streep was 29 years old, a gosling in the New York theater world. She was living in a loft on Franklin Street with her boyfriend, actor John Cazale. He was 14 years her senior and a legend among his peers.
“I learned more about acting from John than anybody,” Al Pacino has said. “All I wanted to do was work with John for the rest of my life. He was my acting partner.”

Streep and Cazale met in 1976, when they were cast opposite each other in “Measure for Measure” in Central Park. By then, Cazale was not quite a star — he lacked that ephemeral quality — but he was regarded in the industry as a rare talent, in demand among the great directors of the era.
He was Fredo in “The Godfather” (1972) and “The Godfather Part II” (1974) and had lead roles in “The Conversation” (1974) and “Dog Day Afternoon” (1975).

Of the five movies he starred in, all would be nominated for Best Picture, and three would win. Of the two, Cazale was the famous one, but they were still starving artists. Cazale would take Streep to dinner in Little Italy, where restaurant owners, awed to have Fredo in the room, insisted they eat for free.

He was known among directors as “20 Questions,” because he wanted detailed back story on all his characters. Pacino said a simple dinner with Cazale would become epic: “I mean, you’d be done — washed, finished, and in bed — before he got halfway through his meal. Then the cigar would come out. He’d look at it, light it, taste it. Then finally smoke it.”

Cazale and Streep were the envy of the New York theater world — she the most naturally gifted actress in generations, he the most naturally gifted actor, legendary director Joe Papp their patron — until one day in May 1977. Cazale, who was in previews for “Agamemnon” uptown, had been feeling ill enough to miss performances.

Papp was concerned enough to get Cazale an emergency appointment with his own doctor on the Upper East Side. Within days, Streep and Cazale were sitting in the doctor’s office with Joe and Gail Papp.
The diagnosis: Cazale had terminal lung cancer. It had spread throughout his body.

Pacino took Cazale to radiation treatments, sitting in the waiting room, hoping it wasn’t as bad as it seemed. Cazale himself insisted he’d get better, and when he fought to go back to work, Streep took a part she loathed just so she could be with him. She was just “the girl” in the movie — “essentially a man’s view of a woman,” Streep said. “She’s extremely passive, she’s very quiet, she’s someone who’s constantly vulnerable.” In short, she was everything Streep was not.

But the film was “The Deer Hunter” (1978) and Cazale had the chance to star opposite Robert De Niro in one of the few films to then grapple with the Vietnam War. The filmmakers fought to cast Cazale, even as the production company, EMI, insisted he be fired: The insurance costs would be outrageous, and no one wanted to back a movie with a terminally ill star.

The story Streep would later tell: De Niro covered Cazale’s insurance costs, which the actor has never confirmed or denied. “He was sicker than we thought,” De Niro later said, “but I wanted him to be in it.”

In early March 1978, Cazale entered Memorial Sloan Kettering. Streep never left his side. On March 12, 1978, at 3 a.m., Cazale’s doctor told Streep, “He’s gone.” “Meryl wasn’t ready to hear it, much less believe it,” Schulman writes. “What happened next, by some accounts, was the culmination of all the tenacious hope Meryl had kept alive for the past 10 months.
She pounded on his chest, sobbing, and for a brief, alarming moment, John opened his eyes. ‘It’s all right, Meryl,’ he said weakly. ‘It’s all right.’” Then he closed his eyes and died. (New York Post)

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KevinM
KevinM
August 16, 2024 2:56 am

The army marches on its belly and so do cowboys.
Amazing how well organised the catering was.

Just getting the firewood together must have been a task.

Texas
KevinM
KevinM
August 16, 2024 2:58 am

Was there ever a doubt for the reason?

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Rosie
Rosie
August 16, 2024 3:34 am
Steve trickler
Steve trickler
August 16, 2024 3:38 am

Kaboom!

LUSH! Twenty One – 21 Years of Dance Music Classics

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVpDIe0gQBc

Zatara
Zatara
August 16, 2024 3:50 am

Hard proof that VP candidate Walz is lying about his military service.

He had a rank he never earned placed on his congressional souvenir coins.

He isn’t being attacked over his military service, he is being attacked for lying about it for political gain.

Tom
Tom
August 16, 2024 4:00 am
Tom
Tom
August 16, 2024 4:01 am
Tom
Tom
August 16, 2024 4:01 am
Tom
Tom
August 16, 2024 4:02 am
Tom
Tom
August 16, 2024 4:03 am
Tom
Tom
August 16, 2024 4:04 am
Tom
Tom
August 16, 2024 4:05 am
Tom
Tom
August 16, 2024 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
August 16, 2024 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
August 16, 2024 4:07 am
Tom
Tom
August 16, 2024 4:08 am
Top Ender
Top Ender
August 16, 2024 4:30 am

Thanks Tom!

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
August 16, 2024 5:01 am

That would be the Secret Service looking to be 30% female. Obviously one of those formally male dominated workplaces where they do everything they can to make it easy for females to work whilst pregnant and providing flexible work conditions. Would obviously not happen with a make agent.
The breastfeeding agent should be moved to another Department for having their kid at work plus two other family members at the event supposed to be protecting.

“found the agent breast-feeding her child in a room that is supposed to be set aside for important Secret Service official work. According to Crabtree, the agent had no permission to leave her post, and she did not warn the site event agent”

Speedbox
August 16, 2024 6:23 am

Dover – check your email. Cheers

Roger
Roger
August 16, 2024 7:03 am

Once again, Anthony Albanese is all at sea over Gaza visas

Dennis Shanahan The Australian 15 August, 2024

Anthony Albanese stands accused of deliberately misleading the parliament and misrepresenting the director-general of ASIO, Mike Burgess, to protect Labor’s handling of visa security for Gazans and covering for his own mistakes. In the current context of heightened social division, raised terror threats after the Hamas attack on Israel, protests and violent attacks on MPs’ offices, there can hardly be a graver allegation to make against the Prime Minister.

Yet, a rattled and uncertain Albanese, shuffling his papers and turning to nasty personal attacks on the Opposition Leader, left the parliamentary chamber on Thursday afternoon, leaving a junior minister to respond to the accusations that he had “deliberately twisted” the words of the ASIO director-general to cover for gaps in the security vetting of people coming from the radicalised, war-torn Gaza zone and to cover for his own mistakes.

After a week of dominating the parliament with questions about the security checks for the almost 3000 people in Gaza given visas since the Hamas attacks on October 7, Peter Dutton pounced with an epic parliamentary claim accusing Albanese of deliberately misleading the parliament by misrepresenting what Burgess had said last Sunday on the ABC Insiders program about ASIO’s role in vetting the visas and the checking of each applicant.

Under fire, looking uneasy and clearly either not across the detail or unable to supply the detail, Albanese defended claims he had made about ASIO being involved in all visa applications by quoting Burgess from Sunday as follows: “If they’ve been issued a visa they’ve gone through the process. They’re referred to my organisation and ASIO does its thing.”

But the exact Burgess quote from Sunday was: “If they’ve been issued a visa they’ve gone through the process. Part of the process is, where criteria are hit, they’re referred to my organisation and ASIO does its thing”.

The key omission from the middle of the sentence is “where criteria are hit”.

This is a vital difference and changes the entire point of Burgess’s statement.

By saying publicly that ASIO was part of the process “where criteria are hit”, the ASIO director-general was making it clear that ASIO was only involved in an application if a criteria – such as a name on a terror watch list – was “hit”.

Yet Albanese had suggested on Wednesday that ASIO was involved in all Gaza visa applications and Thursday’s quote – absent the highly significant qualification – supported that interpretation.

This was a significant omission from the middle of a statement and led Dutton to move a serious motion condemning the Prime Minister and accusing him of both being at odds with the ASIO boss and twisting his words.

At the end of the parliamentary week, Labor and Albanese where they were before the winter break – tied in knots over visas.

Epic indeed.

But meanwhile, Gazans who haven’t passed a security assessment are being granted visas.

Yet another massive fail from a government that doesn’t take its duty to protect Australian lives seriously.

Rosie
Rosie
August 16, 2024 7:11 am

My old neighbour had this experience, despite having two adult daughters. Thought she was just putting on weight.
Also a boy.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-08-14/baby-born-in-toilet-woman-didnt-know-she-was-pregnant/104220886

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GreyRanga
GreyRanga
August 16, 2024 7:28 am

About a year ago maybe a bit longer, I made a comment about the salesman I brought my latest car from being Vietnamese. He is eternally grateful to the Liars for letting him come here. He arrived with nothing and is now a multi millionaire. He will never forget what they did for him even though he doesn’t agree with their policies. Muzzies not so. Muzzie first and foremost, say anything for the advantage, lie for the advantage, attack for the advantage, whinge about everything that is not to their advantage. They are the epitome of the left, nothing is too insignificant to complaim about. They will use the left for only as long as needed which we’ve seen with the pro-pali’s and the ghay pride marches and just now, Kameltoe rally with pro-pali demonstrators. There are no moderate muzzies. They don’t fit in anywhere.
Luigi the Unflushable doesn’t understand this

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Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
August 16, 2024 7:30 am

If Sky insist on showcasing airhead Teal Zali Steggall, I have a hard drive full of other things I can watch.
Click! Rita Panahi now on.

Cassie of Sydney
August 16, 2024 7:31 am

Johannes Leak nails it…again.

I see Richard Shields has been sacked overnight yet meanwhile fatso Harwin, the grotesque man boob whale, remains in his role. Harwin is a far-left very wet factional weirdlord in the NSW Liberals, he’s the backer of the useless Sleazeman and so Sleazeman won’t go after Harwin’s scalp, even though Harwin should be harpooned too.

The NSW Liberals are run by Harwin, Kean and Photios….which explains a lot.

Cassie of Sydney
August 16, 2024 7:34 am

What’s happened in NSW is disastrous. The federal Liberals should dissolve the NSW Liberal executive, take control, clean out the scum like Harwin and start again.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
August 16, 2024 7:52 am

If there is any doubt that the greens aren’t commies then this should convince you. ACT greenslimescumballs want to close down racing in Canberra, which they’ve said for a long time, but now want to take the land off them so they can’t make a profit from selling it. I’ve always been of the opinion that sporting clubs should have the land if government owned for nothing as they are community based and if they no longer want the land it should be returned to the community for a different community use. Too many people use sporting clubs to further their own ambitions and feather their own nest.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
August 16, 2024 7:57 am

Cassie I was in fact wondering if the people being vetted for suitability by Harwin were conservatives and this was deliberate. I know incompetence runs deep in the SFL’S and we should never think conspiracy before incompetence but after the last qite a few years I’m now in the conspiracy camp as time after time this is what has happened.

johanna
johanna
August 16, 2024 7:58 am

The NSW Libs’ local government nomination fiasco is the worst debacle I have ever seen or heard of in major party history.

Cassie is right. Many, many heads should roll, because this kind of disaster is never just one or two people’s fault. It indicates a major and deep-seated problem in the culture, resulting in lack of rigour and accountability about process.

An obvious problem is the system, where hundreds of nominations have to be processed and submitted right up to the cut-off point. In retrospect, it’s surprising that it hasn’t happened before.

No wonder we call them the SFLs.

Vicki
Vicki
August 16, 2024 7:58 am

Watched Ch 9 Breakfast this morning ( husbands insists on watching it). Dutton excelled in defending his stance on the question of admission of Palestinians here. This was in spite of the obvious personal position of interviewer Sarah Abo who became insistent & spoke over Dutton. Yesterday, after a clearly partisan attitude of Abo, I wrote a complaint to Ch 9.

This is an election winning issue for Dutton. He is passionate (& right) about the appalling lack of normal security checks on the Palestinians. There seems no doubt at all that ASIO have not been able to follow the usual procedures.

It is not often that pollies show genuine personal commitment to an issue. When it happens, voters see it & respond.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
August 16, 2024 8:14 am

For the life of me, I don’t know why anyone in a position of power- who is not a rabid Jew hater- doesn’t start every press conference by reading out a list of names of those killed and kidnapped on Oct 7th last year.
(CBS news iirc for along time during the Iraq war would conclude every broadcast with a scrolling list of US casualties- it was very affecting)
Or at least have a few memorised so when a callous cow like SHY tries a sledge on, the reply can be, “Think of the children? Like X, Y and Z, who have turned 12 during the last year in the custody of the Raghead R*pe Brigade?”
Yes, you’re going to get called racist islamophobe, so go big with it, I say.

calli
calli
August 16, 2024 8:15 am

Dutton has accused the PM of misleading Parliament. He selectively quoted from Burgess’ statement with a view to legitimising the government’s actions.

This used to be a hanging offence.

In addition, Stegall called Dutton a racist inside Parliament, then doubled down and accused him again outside the Coward’s Castle. I do hope it’s Show Time!

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
August 16, 2024 8:17 am

My wife is becoming quite political these days. She never paid much notice but now recognises the malignancy inherent in political parties.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 16, 2024 8:17 am

Hashem smashem.

Jordanian man causes $700,000 in damages to solar panels, businesses over Israel support (15 Aug)

Hashem Younis Hashem Hnaihen, 43, is accused of breaking the front doors of multiple businesses in a rampage in June. He wore a mask while committing the vandalism and left behind warning letters stating his intention to “destroy or explode everything here in whole America. Especially the companies and factories that support the racist state of Israel.”

In late June, Hnaihen broke into a solar energy facility in Wedgefield, Florida, where he worked for hours to smash the facility’s solar panels, causing an estimated $700,000 in damages. He also cut wires and damaged critical electrical equipment.

It does illustrate another issue with solar panels, at least in solar farms: they’re pretty much impossible to secure. Once the usual suspects decide there’s a lot of money sitting there the things are going to be vandalized for the copper.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
August 16, 2024 8:21 am

This was a significant omission from the middle of a statement and led Dutton to move a serious motion condemning the Prime Minister and accusing him of both being at odds with the ASIO boss and twisting his words.

Dutton has been getting quite a lot right. Being called racist would have seen Morrison fold so fast there would be an audible ‘crack’ from the laggard air closing behind him on the way to the floor.

Trumble would never stood against the Gaza detritus getting visas, but would instead have secretly briefed Labor and the press on anyone in the Libs who were not content.

Dutton might not be an epoch making visionary but he seems to have a sense of what Aussies want and an instinct to preserve what we have, and at present that is a good thing.

calli
calli
August 16, 2024 8:24 am

On the breastfeeding Secret Service agent who was supposed to be guarding Trump…

I believe the agency has adopted guidelines first documented by Matilda of Flanders.

New-SS-Guidelines
Black Ball
Black Ball
August 16, 2024 8:30 am

Rita Panahi:

Peter Dutton has withstood vicious media treatment in the past but the heat is about to be turned up to thermonuclear levels now that the Opposition Leader is polling well and unashamedly backing a conservative policy agenda. Whether it’s energy or population policy Dutton’s instincts are proving to be electorally popular. Dutton’s call for an outright ban on visas for Palestinians from Gaza, where the majority continue to support terrorist group Hamas, has enraged the Australian Left.

On Thursday, Dutton could only laugh after being greeted on Nine’s Today show with the following question: “Good morning, Pete, are you a heartless racist? Do you have any humanity?” That was how Karl Stefanovic began the interview. It didn’t get any better in the Australian parliament as Teal Zali Steggall lashed out at Dutton. After losing her cool, and demanding the chamber fall silent for her speech, she yelled the following slur at the Opposition Leader: “We heard you in silence. You can hear me in silence. Stop being racist!”

Steggall withdrew the comment but then appeared on Sky News on Thursday afternoon to double down on her ugly rhetoric, again claiming that Dutton’s policy is racist, and by association that makes him racist, too. Steggall was unable to explain how a policy that applies only to a certain geographical region under the control of terrorists is “racist” but one cannot expect logic or rational explanations from those accustomed to hyperbole.

Steggall’s fellow traveller, the reliably hysterical far Left Greens senator Sarah Hanson-Young also joined the pile on saying “Dutton was leader of the nasty party”. Hanson-Young had earlier heckled Nationals leader David Littleproud as he addressed the media. “Why don’t you say something about the children being slaughtered?” the Greens environment spokeswoman said. She followed up that performance with these comments about Dutton: “He is so unfit to be prime minister because there isn’t, there isn’t a low bar that he won’t go under … So low he’ll use the persecution of children to try and win yourself the top job in government.”

Sadly for Zali and her like-minded comrades, falsely labelling someone a “racist” or “nasty” is no longer considered a winning argument. “Racist” has become a term used by elements of the Left to try to silence their ideological opponents but it only works with the weakest faux-conservatives like the ones that populate the Victorian Liberal Party.

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese, spooked by a number of poor polls, is also indulging in increasingly personal and emotional attacks against Dutton. “He sows fear and he sows division,” the PM said “That is what he does, that’s what he has done his entire political career and that’s what he continues to do.” Rich commentary from the man who tried to enshrine racial division into Australia’s founding document.

Far from backing down or cowering under the barrage of attacks, Dutton immediately hit back. His political instincts are sound and he knows not only does he have moral clarity on this issue but the majority of Australians support his position. “I think the vast majority of Australians would know that what we’re talking about here is keeping our country safe and making sure that if we’re to discriminate against people, it’s on the basis of them wanting to cause harm or potentially wanting to cause harm to our country,” he said.

Since the resounding success of the “no” vote in the race-based Voice referendum, Dutton has found his mojo. That is evident whether he is speaking about national security, energy policy or cost of living concerns. He has also been clear-eyed on “culture war” issues and that brand of unapologetic conservatism has seen the Coalition come within striking distance of Labor, even leading the Albanese government in some polls. That is a remarkable feat and it has spooked not just the political Left but also the bulk of the media.

Dutton can look forward to the sort of treatment that Tony Abbott copped throughout his time as Opposition Leader and Prime Minister. Unlike the former PM, Dutton is unlikely to fall into the trap of trying to appease his detractors. He knows that the best form of defence is attack.

In short: The Victorian Liberals must make a move or continue to flounder in opposition. If an election were held today Labor would prevail despite polls tightening due to the state government’s gross mismanagement. The Vic Libs need to put an end to John Pesutto’s inept reign and fully capitalise on the deepening, multifaceted crisis afflicting the Jacinta Allan government.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
August 16, 2024 8:30 am

There is a big puff piece in the Courier Mail online which looks like it will come out in Saturday paper. This is my rejected comment:

“Vaccinations did not end when Dr Gerrard took over in December 2021. It was the period where many were losing their jobs for not taking the first two jabs and were being mandated to take the third jab. He did not seem uncomfortable then about pushing mandates which continued for many into 2023.
I took two but it became apparent to me by December 2021 that they did not work as advertised. It was subsequently revealed by boss of Pfizer EU that not even tested for stopping transmission.
Health leaders often talk about misinformation relating to Covid and vaccines. Unfortunately much of what we were told was not accurate and I am one of those who has lost trust in vaccines and the credibility of health experts”.

Roger
Roger
August 16, 2024 8:37 am

This is an election winning issue for Dutton. 

It’s an important issue but the polling indicates the next election will be fought over the economy, with housing affordability & the declining standard of living being the two top issues on voters’ minds, followed by health care.

This is why Albanese is tempted to call an early election before things get worse and we enter a formal recession.

Only a major war would see national security rise to the top tier of concerns.

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Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 16, 2024 8:42 am
Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 16, 2024 8:47 am

The leftier a place is the more antisemitic it is.

Special envoy: Victoria the worst for anti-Semitism (Paywallian)

Australia’s inaugural anti-Semitism envoy Jillian Segal says since the October 7 attacks there have been more than 800 anti-Semitic incidents recorded in Victoria.

So when are all those people going to be gaoled under the hate speech, terrorism and antidiscrimination laws?

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
August 16, 2024 8:48 am

That thing about the USSS agent deserting her post to breastfeed her baby is staggering.

After the litany of failures and missteps, and the sombre avowal of investigations to get to root causes, that this should happen so close on the heels of the assassination attempt on Trump is almost incomprehensible.

The only way I can imagine that this woman would have felt comfortable in doing as she did is through the focus on the Secret Service’s original core responsibilities having drifted so far, and an unprofessional culture become so pervading, that even under additional scrutiny this woman thought what she was doing was still alright.

You just know that some Senator (Hawley or Kennedy) will press Mayorkas or Lowe or whoever what is being done with this woman who so clearly breached her duties, and they will offer up that mealy-mouthed evasion that they cannot comment on an ongoing investigation – what with there being so many valid reasons she walked off to do her own thing.

That Senator should ask for a comprehensive list of the situations when a protected VIP might expect to have their protection compromised. Instead of dealing with the issues one by one as they arise, look at the whole thing all at once. Should make interesting reading – of which recent justifications like sloped roofs and breastfeeding offer a tantalising glimpse.

BTW, I saw a phot of JD Vance talking to the press – might have been when he was scoping his future aircraft out and pleading with Kamala to come out – and who was in his Secret Service detail? That squat frump who has become world famous for being unable to holster her gun as she wandered around bewildered near the vehicle the men were getting the just shot Trump into.

Zatara
Zatara
August 16, 2024 8:57 am

Kamala Officially Chickens Out of First Debate With Trump

Last week, Donald Trump announced that he agreed to have three debates with Kamala Harris, with the first on Fox News on September 4, the second on ABC on September 10, and the final one on NBC on September 25.

Kamala’s campaign replied that it would only agree to the September 25 debate if Trump appeared at the September 10 debate… and somehow entirely “overlooked” the Sept 4 debate on FOX, the one the left doesn’t control.

Shocking, yes I know.

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Indolent
Indolent
August 16, 2024 8:58 am

@TrumpWarRoom

PRESIDENT TRUMP: As border czar, Kamala allowed 20M people to invade our country.

She wants to give them all citizenship and free government healthcare — and let them raid Medicare and Social Security.

Eyrie
Eyrie
August 16, 2024 9:03 am

The US will fight a long war against China – yeah, right.

https://cdrsalamander.substack.com/p/you-cant-go-to-war-with-your-factory

Indolent
Indolent
August 16, 2024 9:06 am
Indolent
Indolent
August 16, 2024 9:08 am
Indolent
Indolent
August 16, 2024 9:11 am
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 16, 2024 9:14 am

Peter Hitchen’s book “The Phoney Victory – The World War 11 Illusion” was depicted on this blog at one time. Brought a copy, and it makes interesting reading. Hitchens points out that , in the summer of 1939, Britain and France were wholly unprepared for a major European war, and this quickly became evident in the conflict that followed. He questions the sentimental view of the Anglo – American relationship, pointing out that American wartime aid to Britain was not as unselfish as Winston Churchill claimed at the time.

It seems that some of the British gold, sent to the United States, “had been in London vaults for so long that it was still in the form of doubloons, moidores, pieces of eight, French lois d’or and other beautiful and historically valuable coins, assembled over centuries of British commercial success and naval supremacy.” (Page 89.)

Indolent
Indolent
August 16, 2024 9:17 am
Indolent
Indolent
August 16, 2024 9:18 am
Rabz
August 16, 2024 9:27 am

I’m now convinced the NSW gliberals local council nominations fiasco was deliberate and not just staggering incompetence.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
August 16, 2024 9:28 am

Bungonia Bee

 August 15, 2024 6:46 pm

Northern Beachey Airheads should be mindful that their northern beachy electorate has a perfect escarpment for windmills, running most of the way along it.

Perhaps a fun project would be to place a sign on one of those park/escarpments declaring it to be the position for a 250Mw wind tower, to be built as soon as permission is gained, with a phone number to the Minister of the Enviroment for comment.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
August 16, 2024 9:52 am

shame about this then

https://x.com/NoticerNews/status/1820784402898747839

Ah, yes. The Noticer. I always read that with my coffee.

Here is the associated article:

Australians told to report friends and family for anti-government thoughts
That headline is, I think, rather tendentious paraphrasing of what Dutton was talking about. The conversation had been about the possibility of terror activity. Then Dutton said:

“I would say to anybody in our community, whether it’s within your friendship group, your family group, the work group, whatever it might be, where you see somebody’s behaviour changing, regardless of their motivation, or if they’ve changed radically their thoughts about society and government, etc., you need to report that information to ASIO, or to the Australian Federal Police as a matter of urgency.”

I would argue from the context that what Dutton was talking about was behaviour or language hinting at preparing for some large scale mischief.

Now I don’t like the idea of people dobbing on family or friends, and we know that everyone knows someone itching for a reason to do so to make themselves feel important or whatnot. And I sure as hell do not trust ASIO to use or dismiss any such information judiciously.

The passages above that relate Dutton’s warning about government overreach.

Mr Dutton responded by agreeing that government overreach during the pandemic had a “huge mental impact on young people” and laid the blame for much of that on former premier Dan Andrews and his lockdowns in Victoria.

But he then added: “None of that, though, should give rise to the sort of conduct that you’re referring to. (i.e. acts of violence.)

I also note that one of the pictures used for the piece condemning Dutton was the same one used for this:

Australians from all sides of politics slam opposition leader Peter Dutton over trip to Israel
That article uses the Hamas MiniTru numbers of dead Gazans as well.

I am not saying Dutton is perfect. As a former police officer he seems to have a little too much confidence in the agencies of ‘law and order’ for my liking. But denouncing as terrible, even a TRaiTorS, everyone who does not exactly conform to your own thinking is so terribly…Struthian.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
August 16, 2024 9:53 am

Cassie O’Sydney:

I can’t speak for all Jews, but I do speak for many Jews and hear this, we no longer feel safe in this country. I can hear the ticking of the time bomb, and it ticks louder by the day.

If – as it looks possible – the Greens hold a dominating position in the Labor ministry after the next election, because I seriously doubt the Liberal Party’s ability or even intent to contest the election with policies that the average Australian is happy with, you can expect the nation to swing to a position akin to the UK where they have elected a Far Left Communist Government who doesn’t have to go to the people for 5? years and is free to do as it wishes.
We are about to find out just how tyrannical they can be.
Even though the Labor/Green Coalition looks like a package that you wouldn’t touch with a 10 foot pole, all that is required – as in GB – is to split the conservative vote, and there are people in the Liberal Party that would go along with it for the proper incentives.
Brace yourselves, Cassie – it’s about to get much worse.

Cassie of Sydney
August 16, 2024 10:02 am

Sadly, Harwin the Whale won’t be harpooned, he’s a slimy factional deal maker.

Re. the forthcoming council election, I’m in Queen Clover’s realm. Clover will win…..again. Clover will still be Lord Mayor in fifty years time. By then, of course, she’ll be long dead but she’ll then become Clover the Queen Corpse, her body will be filled with chemicals and embalmed, like comrade Lenin, and her corpse will be sacredly sealed in a glass box, kept at Sydney’s Town Hall and she’ll be wheeled out for ceremonial occasions and council elections, where her slavish and cultish LGBTQIP+ followers will prostrate themselves, gasp in awe at her ghoulish corpse, and dutifully vote ONE for Clover the Queen of the Corpses.

There’s only one Liberal currently serving on Sydney City Council, apparently he does an okay job but I am going to vote for the Libertarian candidate.

Somebody above asked about ‘conservatives’. Ah yes, well they do exist in NSW, and many may not even be ‘conservative’, they’re ‘Menzian Liberals. But basic Menzian tenets such as free speech, religious freedom, nurturing small and medium sized businesses, individual liberty etc are now regarded by halfwits like Harwin, Photios and Sleazeman as passe, they want the Liberals to be a reflection of the Greens.

If you remember back to 2019, prior to that May election, Halfwit Harlin, Photios and the rest of the Green politburo dropped the late Jim Molan from the top three senate ticket. Why? Because Molan happened to be a conservative. It took Molan’s hardwork to overcome that and he won over 100,000 votes, to the chagrin and fury of Halfwit Harlin, Photios and the rest of them.

After Molan’s death, his senate spot should have been filled by another conservative, but no, no, no, Halfwit Harwin and the rest of them decided to fill it with a wet green-left nonentity. This cabal has now gotten rid of Holly Hughes. There are no conservatives on the NSW senate ticket.

I will not be voting for any Liberal on the senate ticket. My senate vote will go to the Libertarians and PHON.

Harwin the Whale, Kean Green, Mutt Mallard, Slimy Photios and many others are to blame for the current and very woeful state of the NSW Liberals. It’s a gay club and has been for over a decade. When Ross Cameron pointed this out, he was expelled.

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thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
August 16, 2024 10:04 am

Interesting little case.

The legal system is being asked to decide if it should ever be accountable for serious criminal behaviour.

Im guessing they will come back with “No-never”.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/article/2024/aug/15/victims-would-have-no-remedy-if-judges-given-immunity-lawyer-for-wrongfully-imprisoned-brisbane-man-tells-court-ntwnfb

Family court of course.

In the original case, in August 2018, Judge Vasta ordered Stradford to disclose gambling account statements.
The proceedings were adjourned and, after a brief hearing before another judge, returned to Vasta in December 2018.
Wrongly believing the other judge had already decided Stradford was in contempt, Vasta sentenced the father of two to six months’ jail for disobeying orders to provide financial documents.

Stradford appealed and, six days later, Vasta conceded he had erred and ordered his immediate release.
In February 2019, the full court of the family court overturned the sentence.
Stradford successfully sued Judge Vasta for false imprisonment.
In his judgment last August, federal court justice Michael Wigney also found the commonwealth and Queensland to be vicariously liable for court, police and correctional officers following Vasta’s orders.
The compensation awarded included $50,000 in exemplary damages payable by Vasta “to deter any repetition of such a thoroughly unacceptable abuse of judicial power”.
The high court has reserved its decision.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 16, 2024 10:04 am

the UK where they have elected a Far Left Communist Government who doesn’t have to go to the people for 5? years and is free to do as it wishes. We are about to find out just how tyrannical they can be.

As Mencken said: “Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.”

Labour poll lead collapses after 40 days in office with Reform now in second place (15 Aug)

Maybe five years of getting it good and hard will sink into their crania in a way that sayng “I told you so” never seems to.

lotocoti
lotocoti
August 16, 2024 10:04 am

Harris plans to lower your food costs by making food disappear.

Surprised she’s not going all the way with FDR.

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Cassie of Sydney
August 16, 2024 10:13 am

Labour poll lead collapses after 40 days in office with Reform now in second place (15 Aug)

Unsurprising. And the Tories, instead of attacking Fuhrer Sturmer and Labour, prefer to spend their time attacking Farage.

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 16, 2024 10:14 am

KamelToe has wimped out of the first debate with Trump, and says she will not attend the third debate if Trump doesn’t turn up for the second. If Trump does appear for the second, and she does poorly, what are the odds that she will also wimp out on the third debate? Verrrry high, I think.

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Makka
Makka
August 16, 2024 10:18 am

Only a major war would see national security rise to the top tier of concerns.

A lot of people see the “immigration issue” as integral to our serious housing and COL concerns. This latest cockamamy stance from the Liars only fuels the distrust in Labor in their management of the country, the economy and our social cohesion. Noticeably, the RBA is also exposing Labor’s incompetence at economic management through profligate spending.

Albo’s lying to cover Labor’s panicked situation over Gaza and Islam further increases that mistrust and perception of ineptitude. Labor is in real trouble and Dutton is pounding on the sweet spot.

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vr
vr
August 16, 2024 10:22 am

WSJ: How a Leak by a New York Times Reporter Led to an Anti-Doxing Uproar in Australia
A snippet from the article

Early this year, the contents of a WhatsApp group for Jewish creative professionals and academics, set up in Australia after the Oct. 7 attacks in Israel, leaked and fell into the hands of pro-Palestinian activists.

The activists posted snippets on social media, along with the names, photos and social-media page links of many of the group’s 600-odd members. Before long, members of the chat group faced online and in-person harassment—including threats and vandalism—repercussions that for some have continued several months later. 

The incidents touched off a national debate in Australia, where the government subsequently said it would seek to curb doxing, the sharing of people’s personal details with malicious intent. Anti-doxing legislation is expected to be introduced in the country as soon as this month. 

Throughout the crisis, it has remained a mystery how the chat thread leaked in the first place. The events were set in motion in January by a New York Times reporter, according to a Wall Street Journal review of the incident and statements from the Times.

The reporter downloaded about 900 pages of content from the chat thread and shared it with the subject of an article she had worked on. Later, the information wound up in the hands of the activists.

A Times spokeswoman said that the company reviewed the matter and took “appropriate action” against the reporter, Natasha Frost. “It has been brought to our attention that a New York Times reporter inappropriately shared information with the subject of a story to assist the individual in a private matter, a clear violation of our ethics,” the spokeswoman said. “This was done without the knowledge or approval of The Times.”

Frost, who remains on staff at the Times, said in a statement provided by a company spokeswoman: “I shared this document with one individual. Its subsequent dissemination and misuse happened entirely without my knowledge or consent. I was shocked by these events, which put me and many others at terrible risk. I deeply regret my decision.” 

The Times reporter’s role in the chain of events that led to the harassment raises questions about the responsibilities of journalists to guard sensitive information they come across in their reporting, and the real-world consequences when such information leaks widely.

The repercussions of the leak could be significant. If Australia enacts a new law, it would follow a small number of countries that have made doxing explicitly illegal, according to Christoph Schmon, international policy director at civil liberties nonprofit Electronic Frontier Foundation. In the U.S., there is no federal law against doxing, though privacy statutes provide some protections for victims, and a handful of states have proposed anti-doxing measures.

The war in Gaza has been a sensitive topic for many newsrooms. At the Times, publisher A.G. Sulzberger and Executive Editor Joe Kahn have been stressing the importance of reporters remaining impartial in their behaviors and setting aside their personal views, following incidents management deemed troubling, including the leak of materials related to Middle East coverage.

The WhatsApp group whose contents Frost leaked was created in late October 2023, and was intended to provide support in an environment of heightened antisemitism following the Oct. 7 attacks. It is made up of people with varying political, cultural and religious leanings. Some consider themselves Zionists, a word often used to describe Jews who are staunch supporters of Israel, while others don’t, according to members. Frost, who was invited to the group in early November, was among its earliest members.

While a group administrator indicated in the chat that it wasn’t intended for political debates, there were instances when chat group members veered into advocacy. That included discussions on how to bring comments made by pro-Palestinian activists to the attention of their employers or publishers, when they were deemed by members to be antisemitic.

Roger
Roger
August 16, 2024 10:23 am

A lot of people see the “immigration issue” as integral to our serious housing and COL concerns. 

See my further comment under the original post making the point that immigration folds into the issues of housing, wages and GP/hospital waiting lists.

What the Gaza visa issue goes to is Albanese’s performance as PM, but being the preferred PM doesn’t necessarily get you over the line in a general election while there are other, bigger issues in play.

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lotocoti
lotocoti
August 16, 2024 10:25 am

And the Tories, instead of attacking Fuhrer Sturmer and Labour, prefer to spend their time attacking Farage.

They don’t want to alienate all those potential new voters from the Liberal Democrats/Greens/Militant Tendency.

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 16, 2024 10:31 am

Via Instapundit:

Progressives today often maliciously associate Nazis with conservative thought, but both Adolph Hitler and Benito Mussolini were avid followers of Marx. As Hitler noted on January 27, 1934, in an interview with Hanns Johst in Frankforter Volksblatt:

“National Socialism derives from each of the two camps the pure idea that characterizes it, national resolution from bourgeois tradition; vital, creative socialism from the teachings of Marxism. Volksgemeinschaft:

Lefturds, please educate yourselves.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 16, 2024 10:34 am
Figures
Figures
August 16, 2024 10:37 am

Australian is happy with, you can expect the nation to swing to a position akin to the UK where they have elected a Far Left Communist Government who doesn’t have to go to the people for 5? years and is free to do as it wishes.

We have a completely different electoral system to the UK. You can’t split the left or right votes here unless parties do dodgy preference deals or the centre Right succumbs to its usual cowardice and elects to put other right wing parties below commie parties on their how to vote cards.

The fact that the polls are showing it as a dead heat right now in Australia suggests that the Libs should win here given polls swing towards conservatives as elections get closer. I predict a 2PP of 52:48 to the LNP but it could be even worse for Labor if the economy tanks.

The key is what the Libs do when they get in power. The last time they spent their reign attacking all of their allies and trying to appease all of their enemies.

If the Libs attacked their enemies the way the left does, they would never lose power. For example, bus 100,000 refugees to the electorate of Warringah and say “you voted for it, have fun”.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
August 16, 2024 10:52 am

Vagabond, 1032 yesterday:

I had a half serious comment rejected suggesting we could always go back to using Murphy drips (look it up) which would be an embarrassing situation that would probably make world headlines. If it got to that stage it would confirm us as third world country.

I understand it is still a reasonably popular alternative to IV infusions in some European nations especially France*. It’s also important in field casualties with torrential bleeding, or dehydration where the victim is too dehydrated to get a vein, or there isn’t any cannulation equipment**.
The rectal route is also handy in terminal illnesses with morphine suppositories where they are inserted into the distal third of the rectum – when absorbed, the fluids from here don’t go back to the heart via the liver – there go straight into the lower major vein and go to the heart and general circulation without being metabolised by the liver.

Article on Rectal Infusion.
*My knowledge on this subject is from 10 to 30 years ago and may have been surpassed by more modern techniques but were common knowledge at the time.
**Of course abdominal wounds preclude its use.

Pogria
Pogria
August 16, 2024 10:56 am
thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
August 16, 2024 11:09 am

BobtheBoozer

In my standard induction “dont get dehydrated” bit I threaten new starters with this.

Ïf i cant get fluid into you any other way, its going up your date…

Gets their attention.

lotocoti
lotocoti
August 16, 2024 11:13 am

The Lotus Eaters have a look at Airstrip One’s two tiered policing.
Reading through the Macpherson Report it looks like they started with the conclusion that all plod are racist and worked back from there.

vr
vr
August 16, 2024 11:29 am

In short: The Victorian Liberals must make a move or continue to flounder in opposition. If an election were held today Labor would prevail despite polls tightening due to the state government’s gross mismanagement. The Vic Libs need to put an end to John Pesutto’s inept reign and fully capitalise on the deepening, multifaceted crisis afflicting the Jacinta Allan government.

Winning in Victoria would mean the liberals will have to make hard decisions to clean up the mess only to be accused of being heartless. Part of me thinks that the voters should made to feel the consequences of their voting choices.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 16, 2024 11:31 am

The Dems have been going over JD Vance’s history with microscopes.

BREAKING: Democrats have a smoking gun photo of JD Vance….HAVING FUN! (15 Aug)

I think this one is most entertaining since here he is at age 18…22 years ago. If this and the childless cat ladies thing are all they’ve been able to find he’s even more of a cleanskin that the terrifying Orange Guy.

Cassie of Sydney
August 16, 2024 11:45 am

Winning in Victoria would mean the liberals will have to make hard decisions to clean up the mess only to be accused of being heartless.

Which is basically what happened in QLD under Newman, and so, after just three years, the LNP lost.

Part of me thinks that the voters should made to feel the consequences of their voting choices.

Yes, I firmly believe the 3,000 Gazans should be sent to Warringah to reside. It’s a very lovely part of Sydney. I’m sure they’ll like it.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 16, 2024 11:49 am

Will the Palace Chook deliver the mail on time?

Annastacia Palaszczuk appointed to Australia Post board (Sky News, 16 Aug)

Maaaates!

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
August 16, 2024 12:00 pm

Zatara early this morning:
https://x.com/susancrabtree/status/1824059727766290534

“During a Donald Trump visit to North Carolina yesterday, a woman Secret Service special agent abandoned her post to breastfeed with no permission/warning to the event site agent, according to three sources in the Secret Service community.”

Ok. Beyond a joke, the SS is deliberately leaving holes in it’s protective detail to enable an assassination.

Rabz
August 16, 2024 12:08 pm

For how much longer can the dumbocrats and the braindead lamestream meeja get away with spruiking the cackling kamel as a presidential candidate?

She is a beyond parody incoherent drug addled alcoholic imbecile (not to mention the sucking a whole lot o’ cock factor).

She also fits in nicely with with my hypothesis about the rapid rate of diminishing returns we’re witnessing among politicians and governments across the so called developed world – that is, every politician and government is invariably significantly worse than the last.

Signal examples – dumbocrat presidential candidates, UK Torrie PMs and Ozzie politicians and governments. This current labore clown show would have to be the worst feral government in this country’s history.

Depressing and infuriating and there’s no possible improvement likely in our lifetimes.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 16, 2024 12:14 pm

‘We should have better answers by now’: climate scientists baffled by unexpected pace of heating | Climate crisis | The Guardian

Betcha this one doesn’t get reported in the Grauniad.

Study finds temperature reconstructions during the Common Era are affected by the selection of paleoclimate data (Phys.org, 15 Aug)
by Science China Press

comment image

The Chinese just nuked the hockeystick.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 16, 2024 12:19 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
 August 15, 2024 9:55 pm

Comment awaiting approval.

Why does this appear on a bunch of your posts?

I’m not terribly experienced at posting on this site. A lot of the articles I post get held up waiting for approval, so I then post the first few lines, the fact that the whole article is waiting for approval, and anybody who might be interested can scroll up to find the article in full.

Makka
Makka
August 16, 2024 12:22 pm

This is awesome!

Coming To San Fran? Viral Video Shows ‘Sub-Lethal’ Remote Gun Protecting Commercial Building

https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/coming-san-fran-viral-video-shows-sublethal-remote-gun-protecting-commerical-building

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
August 16, 2024 12:35 pm

Just caught NZ PM giving a welcome to country preamble. That’s it he can GFH. Can see why other blogs even Kiwiblog are saying he is being dragged kicking & screaming to the right of some issues over there by Peters & ACT parties.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
August 16, 2024 12:39 pm

A LOL seen yesterday in Broadmeadows. Old Hilux ute, sort with dog cages and a noisy exhaust on driven by a hijab wearing woman like our bogans do.

Amused me anyway.

Diogenes
Diogenes
August 16, 2024 12:42 pm

Northern Beachey Airheads should be mindful that their northern beachy electorate has a perfect escarpment for windmills, running most of the way along it.

They are still fighting against pep11. Declare that offshore wind factories visible from shore will replace it, like they on the Central & Newcastle coasts.

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John H.
John H.
August 16, 2024 12:42 pm

Republicans are warning Donald Trump to dial down the personal attacks. Here’s why he’s refusing – ABC News

Trump has stated he will persist with the personal attacks. Not surprising given his policy idea of a 10% tariff on all imported goods which is a defacto tax and a strong inflation driver.

Its Remarkable
Its Remarkable
August 16, 2024 1:09 pm

Among the fabricated rage aginst Peter Dutton seeking to avoid importing more nasty people from Gaza, I made a comment in the Oz, which of course was rejected:

“I tried to post along these lines yesterday, but must have used a naughty word…

“Since when was mentioning a certain ‘religion’ racist?

?And, if people support Hamas, a recognised terrorist organisation, then I say we don’t need them here.”

I did originally use the “I” word instead of ‘a certain religion’

So much for free speech, but unsurprising. I suppose these days.

Black Ball
Black Ball
August 16, 2024 1:11 pm

Queensland news, Courier Mail:

Fifteen Queensland towns where Aboriginal corporations want state land to be handed over to them as freehold property have been revealed after the Miles Government initially refused to provide the list.

The towns have been named after uproar over the proposed transfer of state land to First Nations corporations on K’gari (Fraser Island) and at Toobeah near Goondiwindi.

Natural Resources Minister Scott Stewart has belatedly disclosed the towns involved following a question from former One Nation MP Steve Andrew in state parliament earlier this year.

The 15 towns range from Mt Isa and Maryborough through to the tiny Cloncurry Shire township of Duchess which has just 53 people.

The government initially refused to name the towns, citing the “privacy” of Aboriginal groups which have lodged expressions of interest to have the land transferred to them as “inalienable freehold”.

But Mr Stewart tabled the list recently in parliament where he also revealed that 6.7 million hectares of land, or 3.93 per cent of the state, had been transferred under the Aboriginal Land Act or Torres Strait Islander Land Act since 1991.

This included 11 parcels of land transferred in 2023-24.

Both the minister and Premier Steven Miles defended the land transfers in parliament, with Mr Stewart saying the land “can never be sold” and is held in trust for First Nations people.

“The grant of Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander land recognises the spiritual, social, historical, cultural and economic importance of land to Aboriginal people and Torres Strait Islander people,” he said.

Mr Miles also defended the land transfers, saying the land transfer applications by Indigenous groups were not for townships but for “discrete parcels … that have relevance to the applicants”.

“I am proud of my government’s commitment to working alongside First Nations people in recognising their deep spiritual connection to their land and supporting their preservation of culture, customs and traditions,” he said.

“Applications are treated confidentially and with cultural sensitivity but, to be clear, an application does not guarantee that land will be made transferable; nor does an application give the applicant the right to be granted the land under the act.

“There are processes under legislation that are followed by the Department of Resources, in consultation with interest holders and local councils, before any decisions are made. I am advised this has been the case since 1991.”

Department of Resources figures show almost 70 parcels of land have so far been declared transferable by the state government since 2001.

Despite government and Aboriginal corporation assurances that communities have nothing to fear, the latest land transfer bids have whipped up widespread concern, with locals labelling them a “secretive” land grab.

After community outcry over the Toobeah proposal, Mr Andrew asked Mr Stewart a question on notice in parliament in May about the consultation process, how the land transfer would impact the townspeople’s “property rights” and how many other towns in Queensland were the subject of freehold expressions.

In a response tabled in June, the department said the ALA did not require “broad community consultation” but a Toobeah town forum had been held in March.

Mr Andrew said the land transfers were being made “with no consultation”.

“The results of the (Voice) referendum showed that people are just sick of division – they’re sick of all the ‘them’ and ‘us’ stuff,” he told The Courier-Mail in June.

“I don’t know why the government’s pushing it all of a sudden. How come they aren’t being open and honest?”

Speaking on Friday, Mr Andrew said the government needed to be “open and transparent” if it claimed Queenslanders had nothing to fear.

“If there’s nothing to fear, why the secrecy?” he said.

“Why aren’t they being more transparent and giving an open understanding of what’s happening. If they were honest and open in the beginning, we wouldn’t even get to the point of being fearful.

“It’s no good coming out after the fact and saying ‘there’s nothing to fear’. No-one’s got anything to fear if you’re upfront at the beginning.”

The fifteen places under threat:
1. Augathella (pop 328);
2. Boonoroo (pop 371);
3. Croydon (pop. 215);
4. Duchess (pop. 53);
5. Eurong, K’gari (pop. 11);
6. Happy Valley, K’gari (pop 152);
7. Laura (pop. 133);
8. Maryborough (pop. 15,287);
9. Mount Isa (pop. 18,317);
10. Rainbow Beach (pop. 1220);
11. River Heads (pop. 2044);
12. Roma (pop. 6,838);
13. Thargomindah (pop. 243);
14. Theodore (pop. 451); and
15. Toobeah (pop. 149).

Fraser Island of course a huge tourist attraction. Mount Isa with its mining. Cats and Kittehs north of the Tweed, are there any attractive assets these areas have, like mining etc?

bons
bons
August 16, 2024 1:32 pm

https://richardsonpost.com/howellwoltz/37028/did-donald-trump-elon-musk-just-take-down-matrix-media/

A touch frantic, but a good read if you are seeking to have your prejudices massaged.

Top Ender
Top Ender
August 16, 2024 1:36 pm

In relation to BB’s post above, it seems Queenslanders don’t like this sort of thing:

Should more land be given back to traditional owners?
Yes, it’s the right thing to do 3 %
No, we should all just share 96 %
Not sure 1 %

13,036 votes

Be interesting to see if they vote for more of it in the State election coming up…

JC
JC
August 16, 2024 1:41 pm
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John H.
John H.
August 16, 2024 1:43 pm

For all the bla bla about LLMs, these are intrinsically limited. Go math not language. Doh!

(19) Are Hallucinations Popping the AI Bubble? – YouTube

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JC
JC
August 16, 2024 1:54 pm

Dear lord. I promise to go to church on Sunday for an entire month if this carries through.

@Rasmussen_Poll

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Good Morning ! Lots of activity by other pollsters all of a sudden. The coordinated presidential race data suppression gambit is over. It was remarkably bold. Don’t let that embargo fool anyone – Democrats are in real trouble.

Election 2024: Trump 49%, Harris 45%

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 16, 2024 1:56 pm

Cop’s false claims to blame for wrongful jailing: stateJack GramenzAAP
Fri, 16 August 2024 10:59AM

The state of NSW will not deny a man who spent weeks in jail because of an ex-premier’s cop son fabricating evidence was maliciously prosecuted.
Ex-police officer and son of former premier and senator Kristina Keneally, Daniel Keneally, is expected to shoulder the blame for it.
Luke Brett Moore was jailed for three weeks in February 2021 after Keneally’s false statement that Mr Moore had threatened to kill a police officer at Sydney’s Newtown Police Station.
The activist and founder of ISuepolice was later released on bail and the charge dropped, due to a recording of the conversation made on his phone.
The state will concede he was maliciously prosecuted, the NSW Supreme Court was told on Friday.
“It doesn’t concede that the malicious prosecution involved more than one officer,” a lawyer for the state of NSW said.
Mr Moore is weighing a response to the state’s amended defence, received late on Thursday, his lawyer said.
His civil suit against the state returns to court in February for a review.
Keneally avoided jail when he was sentenced to a 15-month intensive correction order after being convicted of fabricating evidence, later resigning from the police after losing an appeal against his conviction in June.
That appeal’s failure allowed the state to concede a malicious prosecution, the court was told on Friday.
Keneally was charged in October 2022 after the NSW Law Enforcement Conduct Commission investigated an internal police probe which initially cleared him of wrongdoing.
The commission’s report into the case, released earlier in August, recommended introducing telephone systems in police stations that can record conversations.
Newtown Police Station already had such an ability, but Keneally did not know, the report said.

John H.
John H.
August 16, 2024 2:01 pm
John H.
John H.
August 16, 2024 2:06 pm

Liberalism and the West’s ‘Crisis of Meaning’ (quillette.com)

In a recent essay for the New York Times, David Brooks lamented what he sees as the deficiencies of liberalism. Unlike religion, which Brooks believes has long satisfied the need for meaning and purpose in human life, liberalism has proven incapable of filling the “hole in people’s souls.”

What Brooks and the author don’t understand is that if people need religion to find meaning and purpose in life those people are weak and pathetic.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
August 16, 2024 2:50 pm

What Brooks and the author don’t understand is that if people need religion to find meaning and purpose in life those people are weak and pathetic.

Is your gripe with religion the fact it is transcendent or that the transcendent is understood through dogma?

Cassie of Sydney
August 16, 2024 2:50 pm

A few points….

Firstly, I am religious, I’m not perfect but I like going to synagogue and I believe in God. I am most certainly neither weak nor pathetic.

Secondly, I’ve seen plenty of religious men and women at work, inspired by God and their faith, who help people in need, such people are neither ‘weak nor pathetic‘.

Finally, I recall how every single totalitarian society that has ever existed on this planet, be they communist, Nazi or whatever, have viewed religion and religious people as weak and pathetic and persecuted them, to the detriment of those societies.

Dunno about others but I’ll take the religious any day over the non-religious.

Indolent
Indolent
August 16, 2024 2:52 pm

This article in the Washington Post is paywalled, but what an interesting heading. Not quite what you’d expect from them.

Opinion When your opponent calls you ‘communist,’ maybe don’t propose price controls?

Indolent
Indolent
August 16, 2024 2:54 pm
Cassie of Sydney
August 16, 2024 2:57 pm

By the way, smearing those people who need or want some religion in their lives as ‘weak and pathetic‘ is very elitist.

Indolent
Indolent
August 16, 2024 2:58 pm
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Indolent
Indolent
August 16, 2024 3:03 pm

Report to Congress on attempted assassination.

Preliminary Investigative Report to Chairman Mike Kelly 

Indolent
Indolent
August 16, 2024 3:05 pm

Paul Joseph Watson

This Is Just Insane

Arky
August 16, 2024 3:12 pm

What Brooks and the author don’t understand is that if people need religion to find meaning and purpose in life those people are weak and pathetic.

What you and others like you don’t understand is that if people need to deny religion in order to find meaning and purpose in life, they are weak and pathetic.

John H.
John H.
August 16, 2024 3:19 pm

‘Australia has really let us down’: Murdered, missing Indigenous women report tabled | news.com.au — Australia’s leading news site

What a load of crap. For those old enough to remember there was a host of the 7.30 Report, Maxine McKew, who stated that when at Cherbourg, and aboriginal community in central Queensland, there were reports of DV and sexual abuse but the press could not report that. 

The solution lies with the people in remote communities. They are the cause of the problem yet the article makes no mention of that. The men commit the crimes, the women refuse to report the crimes, so the authorities are helpless. 

This isn’t a government problem it is a 65,000 year cultural problem.

Indolent
Indolent
August 16, 2024 3:22 pm

Impeccable is the right word.

Ronald Reagan’s Impeccable Humor

Arky
August 16, 2024 3:24 pm

Most people are happy to live without meaning and choose their purposes solely on need and opportunity, up to the time a crisis occurs and they then are more likely to think a bit more deeply about the meaning.
The weak ones take the easy way out and choose to decide there isn’t any and console themselves with personal gratification and stupification.
Others have to take on the difficult task to grapple with what they heck the meaning might be.

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calli
calli
August 16, 2024 3:27 pm

Given the right set of circumstances we’re all weak and pathetic. The people who think they’re bulletproof are the deluded ones.

The tough thing is to stand up and put a brave face on it regardless. It also happens to be the best thing.

Roger
Roger
August 16, 2024 3:45 pm

Be interesting to see if they vote for more of it in the State election coming up…

It just may be that there is now little to no correlation between what a majority votes for and what they end up with.

Arky
August 16, 2024 3:58 pm

John H.

 August 16, 2024 3:40 pm

 Reply to  Arky

I hated The God Delusion. Indigenous people have spiritual beliefs. Religion has existed since day dot. It isn’t religion that is attempting to eliminate misogyny and DV, it is modern society.

Arky

 August 16, 2024 3:52 pm

 Reply to  John H.

Why would society, modern or otherwise, want to eliminate violence?

So many questions:
What is modern society?
Why does it not like some types of violence?
Why would John support a reduction in violence? John, aren’t you any good at violence? If you were good at violence, and there wasn’t any greater good and purpose, wouldn’t you want more of it?
I must be missing something.

Cassie of Sydney
August 16, 2024 3:59 pm

It’s all coming out, the buck stops with Harwin the Halfwit. But he won’t be harpooned, because he’s a factional bigwig and Sleazeman owes his job to the Halfwit.

The Daily Telegraph have uploaded this…

Liberals must sack ‘Teflon’ Don Harwin over candidate fiasco
The evidence available shows Don Harwin is responsible for failing to register 140 candidates for the local government election. Why is he still president, asks James Willis.

The NSW Liberal Party must think we are all mugs.

It is staggering that only one of the two people involved in this local government disaster have lost their job.

Party director Richard Shields is gone. But Don Harwin survives and remains the powerful president.

This is another day in the life of Teflon Don.

If Richard Shields is to be believed, and there’s no reason to doubt his word, Don Harwin is the man most responsible for failing to register 140 Liberal candidates for the upcoming council elections.

Let me reach from Mr Shields’ statement:

“This year my focus … has been on preparing for the upcoming federal election. To maintain this focus the NSW state president Don Harwin … volunteered to run the local government nomination process.

“State executive completed the final party endorsement as late as 10am on 14th August (2 hours before the close of nominations).

“I was not made aware that the deadline would not be met until it was too late to rectify the deficiencies.”

Why then, is Richard Shields the only person who has faced consequences?

As one senior Liberal said: “In any organisation, such a systemic failure would be followed by the removal of both the CEO and the chair. Don should follow Richard out the door.”

Mr Shields was removed after a crisis meeting at Liberal HQ which ended close to midnight on Thursday.

One person present in the meeting was then heard saying “we have dealt with one part of the problem, but not the other”, referring to Shields losing his position but Mr Harwin surviving.

I am told when attention turned to Don’s role in the mess, Mr Harwin is alleged to have “immediately shut down debate in the meeting and controlled the rest of the conversation”.

“Don was in charge of this local government process. He cannot escape culpability.” said a member of the Liberal state executive.

“The preselections, the candidates, the timetables, the endorsements and the electronic ballots were all determined by Mr Harwin, the Liberal Party president.”

Teflon Don must have more front than Myer to think he can throw someone under the bus and simply continue serving as president.

In a statement, Mr Harwin said Mr Shields “was given the opportunity to explain the circumstances to the state executive. This failure to meet such a fundamental responsibility has rendered his position untenable.”

He also refused to answer questions when approached by my colleague James O’Doherty on Thursday night.

Readers would at this point be wondering why Don Harwin holds so much power in the Liberal Party.

Mr Harwin is a powerbroker in the moderate left faction, who have dominated the NSW branch for the last decade, but often polarised traditional conservative voters.

“The moderates control the top positions. (Opposition Leader) Mark Speakman and (Deputy) Natalie Ward are both from the left,” said one sitting Liberal MP.

In a clear show of support for his factional ally, Mr Speakman left Mr Harwin out of his strong criticism on Thursday, even though it was obvious Mr Harwin played a key role in the candidate blunder.

“He was protecting his factional ally. The left looks after the left … even when they are in the wrong,” said another sitting Liberal.

Mr Harwin’s elite ability to play politics allowed him to remain as a sitting MP in NSW Parliament for 23 years — surviving in the Upper House due to his favourable spot on the Liberal ticket.

He held a range of cushy portfolios, including the Arts, and was promoted by his factional ally, former Premier Gladys Berejiklian, who made him Special Minister of State.

Mark Speakman, a member of the Liberal moderates and factional ally of Don Harwin, refused to condemn him

“I always found Don Harwin to be unimpressive and in my opinion lazy but he somehow managed to always end up being a Minister. He knew how to play politics,” said one former Coalition minister.

Mr Harwin once famously gave an interview about the Parramatta Powerhouse Museum where he told 2GB’s Ben Fordham that it would “only” cost $10 million to knock down Willow Grove, a heritage house built 140 years ago, and relocate it brick by brick.

Willow Grove is now pathetically sitting in useless pieces, a storage container somewhere in Sydney’s west, and no surprise, has no chance of being rebuilt as promised.

In early 2020, when his state government was enforcing the harshest coronavirus restrictions, Mr Harwin was caught arrogantly living it up at his holiday house in Pearl Beach.

He resigned from cabinet after receiving a $1,000 fine from police.

But after that fine was overturned, Teflon Don walked straight back in to his old ministerial position.

Don Harwin is frankly a metaphor for the internal problems facing the NSW Liberal Party, a party where the people with the least ability often hold the most power.

They will remain in opposition for as long as that continues.

John H.
John H.
August 16, 2024 4:07 pm

Roger Penrose Time Doesnt Exist And Big Bang Wrong!! (youtube.com)

The BBT is fudgy. Don’t know what is right but wouldn’t surprise if the universe always was, always will be.

calli
calli
August 16, 2024 4:09 pm

In early 2020, when his state government was enforcing the harshest coronavirus restrictions, Mr Harwin was caught arrogantly living it up at his holiday house in Pearl Beach.

How on earth could I have forgotten that?

This cruel, entitled deadbeat needs to go.

Arky
August 16, 2024 4:11 pm

John H.

 August 16, 2024 4:05 pm

 Reply to  Arky

If you can’t see the bloody obvious you are without God, without hope in this world. The problem can be approached from evolutionary biology, game theory, psychology, and stress response perspectives. So many ways it is obvious violence in society is not a good thing but you, like so many, think there must be some BIG reason. Stop thinking in the abstract and start thinking in the concrete.

If it’s so obvious, you should be able to state it in a couple of sentences.
Just the main one of your choosing.
Give it your best shot. The one best reason you have that society (you haven’t defined that yet, but that can wait) wants less violence.
Violence bad. Why?

Barry
Barry
August 16, 2024 4:11 pm

To lift all our spirits this grey Friday afternoon.

A wonderful little musical number that speaks to the fact that transwomen are men.

I present to you the XY People and their little tune of truth – Y Chromosome

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
August 16, 2024 4:12 pm

Don Harwin is frankly a metaphor for the internal problems facing the NSW Liberal Party, a party where the people with the least ability often hold the most power.
They will remain in opposition for as long as that continue

Dutton needs to get a headkicker in to sort out the mess that is NSW Liberal.

NSW and VIC are pathetic, infested by self-interested “progressives”.

cohenite
August 16, 2024 4:16 pm

Piazza San Marco, Looking East, Canaletto, 1760

Great painting.

This:

Dershowitz Predicts Merchan Will Sentence Trump to Prison on Sept 18, But Throw in a Twist (westernjournal.com)

Merchan will do this. Merchan should be stripped naked and then horsewhipped along with his skank daughter. This trial (sic) would make the Salem witch trials look good.

calli
calli
August 16, 2024 4:18 pm

Stop thinking in the abstract and start thinking in the concrete.

Hmmm. Friday afternoon. How about a theological traffic problem?

atheist-honk-if-you-love-jesus-meme-Google-Search
cohenite
August 16, 2024 4:20 pm

Don Harwin is a poofta.

bons
bons
August 16, 2024 4:22 pm

Returning to the outrage of the NSW SFL failing to submit local government nominations.

The NSW moderates are driven by one single motive; to maximise the value to them of renewable investments and their crony relationships.

It would be a mistake to believe that they would not be prepared to undermine the Party in the interests of personal gain or their power relationships – for example, Keane. A SFL free local government gives free rein to the scammers.

Conspiracy theory? We shall see. We are dealing with immoral political gangsters.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
August 16, 2024 4:25 pm

The shortage of IV saline bags that is causing chaos in hospitals, forcing overdue births to be delayed after pregnancies reach 42 weeks, and jeopardising emergency procedures and operations, defies reason in a first-world country.
The crisis underlines an urgent need for an overhaul of procurement policies and closer federal oversight of the Therapeutic Goods Administration, which delayed acting on early warnings about shortages of the IV bags for more than a year. Doctors in the US and Britain are mystified by the regulator’s claims of a “global shortage”.

Part of the problem is due to the tendency of nursing staff, probably at the direction of learner doctors, to hook you up to a saline drip bag for hydration when all you need is a water jug and a paper cup.

I speak from experience after 4 admissions via Emergency in June at what was once Calvary Hospital, taken over by the socialist ACT government.

Arky
August 16, 2024 4:27 pm

If we’re going to have to give up violence, I for one want to know why.
It better be a f**king good reason.

Roger
Roger
August 16, 2024 4:31 pm

Federal Labor’s stated rationale for appointing Palaszczuk to a casual gig on the AusPost board at $107K per annum is that as a former QLD Premier she has experience delivering services to rural and regional areas.

Longsuffering residents of rural and regional QLD would disagree. Which is why they didn’t vote for her government in the 2020 election.

Otoh, if AusPost’s remit under Labor is to deliver a reduction in services with a lot of accompanying media spin designed to obfuscate the truth, she’s your gal.

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John H.
John H.
August 16, 2024 4:31 pm

Cleaning up the aging brain: Scientists restore brain’s waste removal system (medicalxpress.com)

Made me think of Yoga.

CSF-to-blood toxins clearance is modulated by breathing through cranio-spinal CSF oscillation – PubMed (nih.gov)

Maximal change in the arterial-venous blood volume, which is the driving force of the CSF oscillations, was increased by 41% during slow abdominal breathing. 

Makka
Makka
August 16, 2024 4:32 pm

Latrell the Magic Abo in the poo yet again with the NRL and the Bunnies for a pic of him doing a line of white powder.

The NRL hold up this high maintenance drama queen lazy bugger as the showpiece of the NRL and their OTT never ending indigenous propaganda campaigns, where he regularly shits on them with his walkabout behavior.

Now the damage control will start, the inevitable mental health issues so please back off, fretting that The ‘Trell will pull the pin on Rugby League and we will be so distraught if he leaves our tellie screens.

FMD- just piss off Latrell.

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Salvatore - Iron Publican
August 16, 2024 4:36 pm

Federal Labor’s stated rationale for appointing Palaszczuk to a casual gig on the AusPost board at $107K per annum is that as a former QLD Premier she has experience delivering services to rural and regional areas.

Huh? Excuuuuuuse me! Is this fair dinkum?

Arky
August 16, 2024 4:38 pm

I guess we never get to know why violence is bad.
We’ll just have to take it on faith from our atheistic betters that they just know exactly what is good and right, and when and where violence is appropriate.
It’s just obvious to them.
How nice.
After all, it isn’t as if there is a long history of atheists murdering masses of the rest of us in order to improve society as they see it.

Cassie of Sydney
August 16, 2024 4:49 pm

NSW and VIC are pathetic, infested by self-interested “progressives”.

Every state Liberal party is infested by self-interested progressives, they are pale, stale Greens. Just look at SA and WA too. State Liberals stand for nothing.

Crisafooli in QLD is a joke, he’s scared of his own shadow. Whilst he will probably fall over the line in October, here’s the rub, he and the LNP don’t deserve to win.

John H.
John H.
August 16, 2024 4:50 pm
Rosie
Rosie
August 16, 2024 5:00 pm
thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
August 16, 2024 5:01 pm

I has a theory!

If we’re going to have to give up violence, I for one want to know why.
It better be a f**king good reason.

Ancient boomers
Violence is a young mans game, and “dont poke me with that pointy stick and steal my shit because you will be old later on” didnt cut the mustard to a randy 18 year old smoothbrain who wanted your crap.

Therefore religion was invented.

“Dont poke me with that sharp point stick and steal my crap or god will give you gangrene of the dick same as you saw Grug get 6 months ago”…

/stirs pot more…

Cassie of Sydney
August 16, 2024 5:05 pm

The depressing thing is that prospective Liberal voters are disenfranchised next month at the council elections. They have no where to park their vote. The Libertarians won’t be putting up candidates in every council.

It’s a scandal of biblical proportions.

Arky
August 16, 2024 5:07 pm

John H.

 August 16, 2024 4:56 pm

 Reply to  Arky

I already have but you have not understood. It is so obvious that the vast majority of people do not engage in violence.

You said it’s obvious and there were different reasons to choose from.
If that is true and YOU understand it, you can give your one, best simple reason in a sentence or two.
It’s obvious, remember?
Go ahead, Explain why violence is bad.
Stop avoiding.

Vicki
Vicki
August 16, 2024 5:10 pm

Love the existential debate going on between Arky and John H.

Keep it up guys! It beats our eternal whinging about Australian politics,

eric hinton
eric hinton
August 16, 2024 5:15 pm

Dutton needs to get a headkicker in to sort out the mess that is NSW Liberal.

Spare us The [Toe] Cutter

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
August 16, 2024 5:17 pm

Boo-yah.

—–

Steve Inman:

Knuckle Sandwich Compilation 6
https://rumble.com/v5b5iyd-knuckle-sandwich-compilation-6.html

Rosie
Rosie
August 16, 2024 5:28 pm

I don’t think any of these ladies are going to be in need of planned parenthood services but okay
https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1823887492132823276?t=NO2hUJkw3u-iwVMF2WtDZw&s=19

Cassie of Sydney
August 16, 2024 5:31 pm

Further to this disgraceful federal government allowing the quick entry of Gazan Nazis into this country, it’s worth remembering the story of Traudl Junge. Junge was Adolf Hitler’s personal secretary and typist, and she was with Hitler, Eva Braun, the Goebbels family, and many of the Nazi top brass in that Berlin bunker until the very end, to April 1945. She was an eyewitness to the last hours of the Goebbels family, she saw and played with the Goebbels children only an hour or so before they were poisoned by their mother. And she was with Hitler and Eva Braun until the end. Of course Junge was a member of the Nazi party, there was no way she would have been able to work for Hitler without being a party member. After the war, after being ‘deNazified’ Junge was able to provide first hand testimony as to Hitler’s character and particularly with what happened in the bunker. You might remember her being interviewed for the marvellous ‘The World at War’, a programme always worth watching again. Junge’s personal testimony also provided the basis for the 2005 German film, Downfall (an excellent film).

I don’t know whether people realise this or not but Traudl Junge, after the war, tried to migrate to Australia. Other members of her family (her sister) had been allowed to migrate here but Junge, given her Nazi past and close associations with the top Nazi echelon, was never allowed to permanently settle in this country. Her application for permanent residence was denied owing to her past Nazi association.

I think the decision was fair. But the decision to deny Traudl Junge permanent residency was done when we were a sensible country. We are no longer a sensible country.

MatrixTransform
August 16, 2024 5:32 pm

The men commit the crimes, the women refuse to report the crimes, so the authorities are helpless. 

all this John H bot does is produce illogical short-hand talking points for whatever the ‘thing’ is

the ‘thing’ is now apparently Trump + reasons

and the other ‘thing’ is men committing crimes + reasons

and the other, other ‘thing’ is religion + reasons

John H is AI

… and a poor one

Roger
Roger
August 16, 2024 5:35 pm

The men commit the crimes, the women refuse to report the crimes, so the authorities are helpless. 

Just on that…as I understand it the cases included in the review were all reported to the relevant authorities at the time.

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Rosie
Rosie
August 16, 2024 5:36 pm
thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
August 16, 2024 5:41 pm

This is fine.
This is normal.

From a real estate sales email..
This time in 2022; 409 houses available to choose from in Geraldton and surrounds. This week in 2024; 67!
This time in 2022; 284 blocks of land available to choose from in Geraldton and surrounds. This week in 2024; 85!

Town of 37,000.
17,000 or so dwellings.

67 & 85 still for sale.

Better get some more migration happening, not enough Afghan bricklayers about.

Roger
Roger
August 16, 2024 5:43 pm

Harris has responded to criticisms she isn’t doing interviews by doing an interview.

With Tim Walz.

Eyrie
Eyrie
August 16, 2024 5:45 pm

I see a few people in the US are being critical about Kamala’s price control proposal. What’s different about our supermarket enquiry? Same bullshit.

Arky
August 16, 2024 5:49 pm

I suppose the key problem is this: One might assume that the atheists on here are the good sort of atheists, the ones who really can recognise good or bad violence, who are deeply tapped into the mystical obvious truth they refuse to reveal to me. (So sad, I really wanted to know).
However, there is a history of atheists doing things which my beliefs tell me are horrific.
Mao, Hitler, Robespierre, Pol Pot, Stalin and Woody Allen.
Presumably, freed of their Christian belief, able to see the world, like you, clearly and scientifically, they were still able to guillotine half of Paris, murder millions of Jews, starve tens of millions and marry Mia Farrow.
So the prudent question might be: what distinguishes your view of violence from theirs, and upon what basis?
How did they get it so wrong, if it’s “obvious”?
And why are so many historical civilisations ones based on human sacrifice, murder and war, if it’s “obvious” and innate?

Indolent
Indolent
August 16, 2024 5:50 pm
Indolent
Indolent
August 16, 2024 5:55 pm
GreyRanga
GreyRanga
August 16, 2024 6:18 pm

Get off the piss Arky, you’re dribbling.

Arky
August 16, 2024 6:30 pm

John H.

 August 16, 2024 5:54 pm

 Reply to  Vicki

It is not an existential debate. It is confusion about drivers of human behavior. I see multiple variables modulating human behavior. Arky thinks it is all about thinking. I’ve read from Dogen to Calvin to Sapolsky to Goldman-Rakic and even Skinner. While human behavior is incredibly complex there are some behaviors that are simple to understand. Arky doesn’t get that. I have no idea from what conceptual and knowledge base he is operating from but I’ll take odds he wouldn’t appreciate the significance of dietary interventions for behavior issues. Many people still don’t appreciate that thinking is behavior and has antecedents

”Arky thinks it’s all about thinking”.
More evasion.
I was gracious enough to respond to your statement that “modern society, not religion is responsible for eliminating poverty and domestic violence”.
And I wanted to know on what basis you thought these were good things. Given they have nothing to do with religion in your view.
I’m not interested in what causes them, or what theory you are “operating from”. I want you to give me the simplest and best answer as to why you think eliminating violence is good.
You still can’t do it after three attempts.
That’s embarrassing.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 16, 2024 6:33 pm

https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2024/08/pretty-to-watch-should-be-more-of-it-a-lot.html

German cops aren’t putting up with any more of this sh!t….

Eyrie
Eyrie
August 16, 2024 6:34 pm

And why are so many historical civilisations ones based on human sacrifice, murder and war, if it’s “obvious” and innate?

Because we are slightly diverged Chimpanzees and chimps are bloody awful.

Arky
August 16, 2024 6:51 pm

Atheist reasoning:
Why is eliminating violence good?

it is obvious violence in society is not a good thing 

Why?

I see multiple variables modulating human behavior.

You haven’t answered the question.

Arky
August 16, 2024 6:53 pm

An anthropologist once said that a key element in human evolution…

You mean human design.

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Dunny Brush
Dunny Brush
August 16, 2024 7:05 pm

I happened to be in a room just then with a receiving device on when that abc refugee “comedian” did his thing at the end of the seven news. FMD. Everybody involved needs to be sacked. Even the idiot newsreader could barely hide his contempt when they cut back to him. As edgy as a balloon.

Roger
Roger
August 16, 2024 7:08 pm

Because we are slightly diverged Chimpanzees and chimps are bloody awful.

It’s what this argument doesn’t account for that puzzled me as a young atheist.
No chimp ever wrote a sonnet.

Or painted a portrait.

Or dreamed of travelling through the air or space and developed the ability to do so.

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Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
August 16, 2024 7:10 pm

Raygun effectively cancelled out all out athletes and forced them to repeat hostage statements to sooth her tax sucking ego.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/2a4SmG8TkO8

bons
bons
August 16, 2024 7:14 pm

Tanya Mihailuk claiming that Moderate local government candidates were registered in time, true liberals were not.

Having witnessed the Turnbull Moderates destroy my party in QLD, I believe her.

bons
bons
August 16, 2024 7:16 pm

Jez.

Can you post a website address for your admirable organisation please.

There are folks here who are keen to look over your shoulder.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
August 16, 2024 7:24 pm

Megan
 August 16, 2024 12:56 pm

Where did that come from? asks stupefied new dad.

He did say later he’d noticed she had put on weight but sensibly did not mention it.

Not one of them thought she was pregnant.

But it’s a fabulous story with a fabulous outcome. He’s a red-headed 4yo fierce tornado in their lives and everyone adores him.

I wasn’t going to mention this, but your missive has changed my mind.
Our IGA is small and only one lane was open at lunchtime. That was OK, I was the only one in line behind a lady with a large load.
Little boy, about 4 wanders up to me. Curly blond/ginger hair, angelic looking kid. He holds up a packet of lollies he’s liberated from somewhere, and starts babbling about them.
CBGHaired boy:”These are really yummy.”
Boozer Bob – Old Fart: “They look it, don’t they?”
CBGHB: “My mummy gave them to me.”
BBOF: “Have you paid for them yet?”
CBGHB: Looks perplexed. “I don’t think so.”
BBOF: “So which ones your Mum?” Looks around, no mum type adults in sight.
CBGHB: Points and waves. “She over there somewhere”. Indicates the fridge section.
BBOF: “Shouldn’t you be with her?”
CBGHB shrugs. Examines pack of lollies.
Bobs a little concerned at this point. Why is this kid talking to me? Aren’t there any other nice people around. I look up and the cashier and other lady are having a quiet giggle.
CBGHB states: “My dad drives a car…”
mumble mumble mumble for a minute or so more then says ‘bye!’ and runs off to find mum.

I then realised I had stood there the entire time with my arms folded even when he was showing me his ‘find’ of lollies.
I was keeping my hands in view of everyone.
That made me feel a bit sad that this was what I had done in a reflexive manner because I was in “The proverbial Old Man Stranger Danger situation.”

Eyrie
Eyrie
August 16, 2024 7:28 pm

You mean human design.

Design has nothing to do with it. Evolution is a slipshod engineer and workman who doesn’t care. If it just works in the environment it survives and reproduces.
There’s no plan, no template.

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
August 16, 2024 7:32 pm

Let them in, and then you have the consequences …

MatrixTransform
August 16, 2024 7:32 pm

it is obvious violence in society is not a good thing

national defense is built on violence

the entire law and policing apparatus is built on violence

typical Left-Tard reasoning to pretend that other people’s violence is some sort of problem,

… while they out-source their own

it’s what starts wars

Eyrie
Eyrie
August 16, 2024 7:34 pm

Because we are slightly diverged Chimpanzees and chimps are bloody awful.

It’s what this argument doesn’t account for that puzzled me as a young atheist.

I didn’t say that was all we were but there’s no denying our heritage.
As for No chimp ever wrote a sonnet.
Or painted a portrait.
Or dreamed of travelling through the air or space and developed the ability to do so.
How many sonnets, paintings or flying machines were produced by the Australian aborigines or many other indigenous people’s?

Roger
Roger
August 16, 2024 7:49 pm

How many sonnets, paintings or flying machines were produced by the Australian aborigines or many other indigenous people’s?

Firstly, for all its warts, their culture was a darned sight more sophisticated than chimpanzees.

Secondly, their profound isolation led to cultural stasis.

cohenite
August 16, 2024 7:49 pm

Talk of evolution and humans ignores the fact that humans are the first species who have transcended the natural environment and therefore evolution. This is not just sociobiology which attempts to marry humans’ inherent capacity to form societies and evolution. It is not because human society creates an environment which enables arguably a majority of those humans in the society to be classified as non evolution; that is they would not have survived in nature and subject to natural evolutionary pressures.. Not all societies do this. Aboriginal society for instance went the other way and was as pure a natural society as is possible. They lasted 10s of thousands of years. Modern humans living in their unnatural social structure look to be at the end of their time.

Colonel Crispin Berka
Colonel Crispin Berka
August 16, 2024 8:03 pm

During a Donald Trump visit to North Carolina yesterday, a woman Secret Service special agent abandoned her post to breastfeed with no permission/warning to the event site agent, according to three sources in the Secret Service community.

No it was just a misunderstanding.
The agent thought Trump said “Baby drill, baby!”

Arky
August 16, 2024 8:26 pm

DrBeauGan

 August 16, 2024 8:02 pm

 Reply to  Arky

Apart from Woody Allen, they all had a deep religious imperative. They worshipped the state. And power. Confusing them with Bertrand Russell is dishonest.

I think not.
I think they simply took their atheism to its logical conclusion.
At least they had the courage to admit the consequences of their beliefs.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
August 16, 2024 8:32 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

 August 16, 2024 7:03 pm

 Reply to  Top Ender

Don’t have a reference, but German P.O.W’s were being repatriated from Russia as late as 1955 – all that forced labor…

I have a memory of West Germany paying the equivalent of $10 Billion in 1956 for the rest of their soldiers in the Russian work camps – about 15,000 still alive.
There are quite a few videos of German and Russian Army teams exhuming the millions of war dead from both sides across Russia.
The https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_War_Graves_Commission has 800+ Cemeteries.

Diogenes
Diogenes
August 16, 2024 8:42 pm

Don’t have a reference, but German P.O.W’s were being repatriated from Russia as late as 1955 – all that forced labor…

my grandfather wasn’t released until 1923 after being taken prisoner in 1917.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
August 16, 2024 8:47 pm

I think they simply took their atheism to its logical conclusion.

It’s only a logical conclusion if you accept a need to worship something together with a rejection of God. If you have no such need, you can be a rational person. Like me, for example. But not you.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
August 16, 2024 9:00 pm

I do accept the proposition that Christianity has a huge societal benefit, net. Buddhism works well too, and they are all atheists.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
August 16, 2024 9:03 pm

Danger Dan Reviews:

Another video that the MSM will hate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cChuw1fq_R0

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