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The Conversion of Saul, Tintoretto, 1545

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Indolent
Indolent
August 19, 2024 11:00 pm
Indolent
Indolent
August 19, 2024 11:02 pm
Rosie
Rosie
August 19, 2024 11:27 pm

A day out.
Private, infrequent bus to Parkes Castle, a fortified Plantation manor house on Lough Gill, built on the footprint of a castle owned by former Irish kings, the O’Rourkes. It’s outside of County Sligo in northern Leitrim to which I owe 1/8th of my heritage.
The castle attendant told me Leitrim’s pre famine population of 180,000 dropped to 18,000 at one stage but now hovers at around 35,000. Six national schools in the nearest town, now one.
Beautiful lake, appreciation of scenery somewhat marred by incessant rain.
The restored manor house has a long of material and information on Irish vernacular houses.
Rather than bus back to Sligo and twiddle my thumbs for the afternoon I’ve taken a convenient lake cruise on the Rose of Inisfree to Sligo and back again where the captain as well as a running commentary quotes Yeats’ poems.
It’s W B Yeats country.
An hour and a half in Sligo then return to the castle to rendezvous with the bus should complete the day’s entertainment.
I’m hoping the weather will clear.
Incidentally Yeats poem Fair Isle of Inisfree isn’t a patch on Clancy of the Overflow.
Yeats apparently wrote his poem one hot day while working on Fleet St.

KevinM
KevinM
August 20, 2024 12:55 am

I am sure the climate was different a few thousand years ago, otherwise why would people live or migrate to what is today a rather harsh environment?
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Jarlshof is a fascinating archaeological site in Sumburgh, Mainland, Shetland, Scotland.

It’s unique for its extensive remains that cover a broad span of history from 2500 BC to the 17th century AD. The site was unveiled after severe storms in the late 19th century eroded part of the shore, exposing the ancient buildings. Archaeological excavation began in 1925, and relics from the

Bronze Age were among the first discoveries.
The site features a variety of structures from different periods. The Bronze Age settlers left behind several small oval houses with thick stone walls and various artifacts. The Iron Age ruins include a broch and a defensive wall around the site. There are also roundhouses from this period.

The Pictish wheelhouses are a complex of structures that were built during the Pictish period. The Viking longhouse is another significant structure at the site, reflecting the Viking presence in the area. Lastly, the medieval farmhouse provides a glimpse into life in the Middle Ages.

The site offers a unique opportunity to explore the layers of history and understand the lives of the people who lived there over the centuries.

jarls
Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
August 20, 2024 12:56 am

Old mate told a story last night about Albanese and his show girl trying to lean in on her Steiner school’s end-of-year outing. I’ll just say, nothing says “common touch” like a six-man police detail taking down names to check it’s safe to go down the beach.

KevinM
KevinM
August 20, 2024 12:57 am

Happy Birthday Debra Paget.

debra
Bourne1879
Bourne1879
August 20, 2024 2:00 am

Trivia.
Michael Jordan is worth over US$3 billion.

KevinM
KevinM
August 20, 2024 2:35 am

I like some of Adam Piggott’s musings, although the overtly religious posts are not in my fav list.
This one is a bit different, almost admitting that charging against the world’s windmills on his trusty Rocinante is futile.

Have to agree with him but ashamedly so because I feel like coward, why does Tommy R and others do what they do when the majority of people are afraid to support them even covertly?

KevinM
KevinM
August 20, 2024 3:12 am

thefrollickingmole
August 19, 2024 11:00 am

As if the Logies have any real meaning to anyone. This confirms that:

There is only one logies moment worth watching.

It can never be beaten.

I really must have to be most fuddy-duddy of all.
I watched it and I don’t get it.

Did you find it it funny?

Tom
Tom
August 20, 2024 4:00 am
Tom
Tom
August 20, 2024 4:01 am
Tom
Tom
August 20, 2024 4:02 am
Tom
Tom
August 20, 2024 4:03 am
Tom
Tom
August 20, 2024 4:04 am
Tom
Tom
August 20, 2024 4:04 am
Tom
Tom
August 20, 2024 4:05 am
Tom
Tom
August 20, 2024 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
August 20, 2024 4:07 am
Tom
Tom
August 20, 2024 4:08 am
Tom
Tom
August 20, 2024 4:09 am
Mother Lode
Mother Lode
August 20, 2024 6:56 am

No comments since 4:09?

That cannot be right. Indolent’s link-sphincter must be straining near to bursting.

It is possible other people might have something else to do, but not him.

So, what is going on?

Roger
Roger
August 20, 2024 7:08 am

News from an alternative universe:

Bloomberg NEF has warned that Australia’s window to achieving its 2050 net zero targets is closing fast, and the “heavy lifting” in investment in new wind, solar and storage must be done this decade. Coal, and unabated fossil gas generation, must also end by 2035.

The latest version of BNEF’s New Energy Outlook for Australia quantifies the cost of the transition to net zero over the next two and a half decades out to 2050 at $2.4 trillion, which sounds a lot.

But BNEF points out that it is only 12 per cent above the business as usual, and more than half of this cost ($1.3 trillion) comes in the form of electric vehicles.

Renew Economy 19 August 2024

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 20, 2024 7:10 am

Indolent’s link-sphincter must be straining near to bursting

Heh.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 20, 2024 7:11 am

Mother Lode
 August 20, 2024 6:56 am

No comments since 4:09?

That cannot be right. Indolent’s link-sphincter must be straining near to bursting

Welfare check required.
Maybe the Powers That Be got to him.

Cassie of Sydney
August 20, 2024 7:16 am

No surprises here, Speakman is a leftist and Harwin is his factional ally. The Liberal Party here in NSW is a joke.

Senior MPs: Speakman warned of ‘iceberg’ over candidate fiasco
Liberal MPs have launched into Mark Speakman, claiming the Opposition Leader was warned the party was “heading for an iceberg” in regards to the disastrous local government election campaign.

It comes as Mr Speakman defiantly supported Liberal Party President Don Harwin, despite mounting evidence of his involvement in the spectacular failure to nominate 140 council candidates by deadline.

Multiple sources have confirmed the issue was raised “repeatedly” in recent Liberal Party room meetings at NSW Parliament, only for Mr Speakman and his close ally, Oatley MP Mark Coure, to insist the issue was entirely under control.

“There were questions repeatedly to both Speakman and Coure about the local government elections and what was happening with the State Executive process. This has been going on for months. Everything they both presented back to us suggested it was all in order, and we would have a record number of candidates” said one senior Liberal MP.

It’s understood Anthony Roberts, a former minister and senior figure in the Liberals’ conservative faction, was heard on several occasions demanding an update on the situation.

“Robbo kept saying to (Mark) Coure … ‘we are heading for an iceberg’,” another senior Liberal said.

When approached by The Daily Telegraph, Mr Roberts said: “I don’t talk outside the party room, but everyone inside knows what my concerns were, and how many times I raised them.”

Mr Coure was approached for comment.

Mr Speakman holds a seat on the Liberal state executive, which is at the centre of the candidate saga, and has the ability to send his delegate Mr Coure, when he is unavailable to attend.

Mr Speakman confirmed he was present at the Executive meeting on July 26 where he “provided an oral State leader’s report” but did “not recall whether in my presence there was any discussion about making candidate selections.”

“There was certainly never any discussion about any risk of not lodging nominations on time.” Mr Speakman insisted.

Other members of Liberal State Executive have told this masthead the local government process was discussed at length in the July 26 meeting, and it had regularly been on the agenda for quite some time.

The saga has already resulted in NSW Party Director Richard Shields losing his job, with the federal Liberal branch now contemplating a full scale takeover, which can’t occur until next month.

Mr Speakman said: “the responsibility of lodging (candidate) forms sits squarely on the shoulders of the State Director… who was required to sign the forms and lodge them. (Shields) failed to do so. He then failed to front up and explain what happened. It was clear his position was untenable.”

However, when asked to comment on Mr Harwin’s involvement as President, Mr Speakman said “Mr Harwin was apparently heavily involved in discussions about candidate selection and endorsement, which is entirely separate from them lodging the nomination forms. I am not aware of (Mr Harwin) volunteering to run the lodgment of nominations.”

Before losing his job – Mr Shields insisted Mr Harwin had volunteered to run the local government candidate process.

On Thursday this masthead published leaked text messages from Mr Harwin to the State Executive, hours after the shocking administrative error on August 14, where he wrote “suffice it to say after 3-4 days a week for the last three months working with the staff to get the endorsements done, I am beyond devastated at today’s disaster relating to nominations.”

Mr Harwin has not accepted any responsibility over the matter, and like Mr Speakman has blamed the failure entirely on Mr Shields.

Other text messages showed Mr Harwin being quizzed by other members of his State Executive over suggestions he had not consulted them before threatening legal action against the NSW Electoral Commission for the candidate blunder.

A clearly annoyed Don Harwin spoke briefly to this journalist when contacted on Monday, before later referring inquiries to Liberal Party HQ.

“These desperate attempts by Don Harwin to save himself by unleashing an embarrassing attack on the NSW Electoral Commission… are distractions from his untenable position” a senior Liberal powerbroker added.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 20, 2024 7:18 am

Bloomberg NEF has warned that Australia’s window to achieving its 2050 net zero targets is closing fast

Closing fast?
I think it is closing so fast that it will jam Blackout Bowen’s and Luigi’s fingers between the bottom rail and the sill.

Roger
Roger
August 20, 2024 7:19 am

PM’s tone-deaf Gaza response risks repeat of Voice disaster

Dennis Shanahan The Australian 19 August, 2024

There are growing echoes of the disastrous and divisive debate over the indigenous voice to parliament emerging in the political fight over Australia’s acceptance of people coming from the war-torn Gaza zone. Anthony Albanese, having missed or dismissed the warning signs for Labor and his leadership during the year-long indigenous voice debate, which ended in abject defeat, needs to be careful he doesn’t follow the same path of political misjudgment.

The echoes of the dismal voice defeat are deep-toned and faint right now but they are growing by the day and the Prime Minister needs to ensure he doesn’t put blood in the water.

After starting a referendum debate on the back of majority sympathy, progressive support, indigenous leaders’ campaigning, corporate backing, academic urging and a lack of public consultation, Albanese’s response to Peter Dutton’s decision to oppose the voice was to accuse him of negativity, division, lowering public standards and threatening our relations with regional neighbours as he allowed others to accuse the Opposition Leader of racism.

Albanese accused people opposing the referendum of being “chicken Littles”.

Dutton’s response was to ask reasonable questions, seek facts and information, encourage indigenous leaders who did not support the voice and warn people that there would be unintended consequences for giving an indigenous voice body the power to intervene in government decision-making.

Public opinion flipped, Albanese was accused of misleading the public about the extent of the voice and his commitment to truth-telling, as well as using insults instead of providing factual argument.

Dutton got the national mood and the politics right while Albanese has suffered ever since for the misjudgment.

The current debate over immigration and the security checks on people coming to Australia from Gaza – 3000 mostly tourist visa issued and 1300 arrivals since the October Hamas terror attack – is shaping in a similar fashion to the voice debate.

Labor is relying on genuine and general public sympathy for refugees from war zones, vague inferences that ASIO is involved in the visa process, supporting Muslim leaders’ criticism of Dutton, encouraging “racist” slurs without explicitly repeating them and holding back key facts.

Dutton is pursuing reasonable questions seeking facts, accusing Albanese of misusing ASIO boss Mike Burgess for political cover, tapping into wider security concerns and dismissing allegations of racism against him and those who want increased security checks on Gaza visas.

Labor’s response in recent days has been dangerously mixed and reminiscent of the failed voice campaign despite the winter Cabinet shuffle which replaced Linda Burney as Minister for Indigenous Australians and Andrew Giles as Immigration Minister.

When Dutton called for an end to bringing in people from Gaza without the full security checks in a third country and involving ASIO, face-to-face interviews and biometric data for identity, as was the case in Syria and Afghanistan, Albanese accused him of sowing division and declared ASIO was involved in security checks.

Dutton struck last week in parliament and exposed Albanese for misquoting the ASIO chief, as he made it clear ASIO was not involved in every tourist visa check, some of which were issued online within an hour.

On Sunday Industry Minister Ed Husic – whose Chifley electorate in western Sydney has a high Muslim population – shifted ground and dropped the inference that ASIO was involved in every check and simply said it was a more convenient and faster method.

Early on Monday Albanese also shifted the argument on ABC radio, while not disassociating himself from teal independent Zali Steggall’s claim Dutton that was a racist, and said — correctly — the Gaza border was shut and no Gazans were coming out.

“Peter Dutton … knows that at the moment no one is coming out of Gaza. Because in order to leave Gaza, of course Israel, due to the nature of the situation there, was having to approve people going through the Rafah crossing in order to depart earlier on,” Albanese said.

“I think Peter Dutton is deeply divisive and that creates a risk.

“I was astounded that last week when we welcomed home our Olympians, a moment of national unity, Peter Dutton once again showed that there’s no moment too big for him to show how small he is.”

Nationals Leader David Littleproud has clashed with Sky News host Laura Jayes over Opposition Leader Peter Dutton’s call for an outright ban on all refugee arrivals from war-torn Gaza.

But evidence is emerging that, once again, the public mood is shifting in Dutton’s favour and that Albanese is, once again, making an error in judging the public mood, not answering reasonable concerns and being beaten by Dutton.

The latest polling is showing Labor is, at best, treading water and on key issues going backwards as Coalition support rises and Dutton closes on Albanese as preferred prime minister.

Significantly, the latest Freshwater Strategy poll shows that since the Gaza visa debate began not only has Dutton closed on Albanese as leader but Labor’s support on the issues of national security and immigration and asylum has fallen markedly.

The government’s handling of national security is down six percentage points to 24 compared to the Coalition’s 44 per cent; on immigration and asylum seekers Labor is down 4 points to 24 compared with the Coalition’s 38 per cent and on the related issue of crime ALP support fell a point to 22 per cent compared with the Coalition’s 38 per cent.

During the voice debate Albanese dismissed the polling – just as he is dismissing the polling now – and stuck to his failing strategy.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 20, 2024 7:19 am

Three weeks are a long time in politics. That was then…

‘Completely unacceptable’: Albanese calls on Dutton to sack Joyce over bullet remarks (Sky News, 29 Jul)

This is now…

‘Words can be bullets’: Tony Burke calls on people to ‘not underestimate’ harm of racism (Sky News, 19 Aug)

So Albo when are you going to sack Burke for “the sort of language which has no place in any part of Australian society, let alone in public life” I think is what you said.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
August 20, 2024 7:21 am

Every political party should be banned from registering candidates for local government.
Absolutely no benefit is gained for ratepayers from ladder climbing hacks filling the chamber and ignoring core business in favour of attention seeking bullshit.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 20, 2024 7:22 am

Indolent
 August 19, 2024 11:00 pm

Never heard of her (not that I watch A Current Affair).

Pro-Vaccine Journalist Jane Hansen DIES From A BRAIN TUMOR Just Three Years After Proudly Announcing Her Pfizer Injections Online

It would be great if the f ckwit would stop dancing on the graves of people who are unfortunate enough to die of cancer, and basing his tap-dancing routine on the scribblings of dribbling morons.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 20, 2024 7:40 am

In a low trust society you can no longer expect the population to do the right thing.

Morrisons and Asda make major announcement on self-checkout tills (19 Aug)

Morrisons is “reviewing the balance between self-checkouts and manned tills” and Asda is investing £30million

Morrisons has announced it is to rip some self-checkouts out of supermarkets as it gets more staff back on the tills. Chief executive Rami Baitieh told The Telegraph that Morrisons “went a bit too far” in rolling out self-checkouts and will now reverse its policy on the technology. … He said increasing the technology had improved staff productivity by freeing them up, but had also resulted in an increase in shoplifting.

Especially when plod is too busy chasing heinous misgenderers and dastardly Christians praying silently outside of abortion centres to arrest shoplifters.

cohenite
August 20, 2024 7:43 am
Cassie of Sydney
August 20, 2024 7:48 am

Further to Jane Hansen, I had an email stoush with her back in 2021, based on her outrageous and biased commentary on the efficacy of Ivermectin, and her sneering reporting of the Sydney anti-lockdown protest.

I don’t think Hansen was a very good journalist, she was a regime journalist. Our email exchange was unpleasant.

However, Hansen is dead now and I don’t dance on the graves of anyone, even those I didn’t like.

Eyrie
Eyrie
August 20, 2024 7:54 am

Renew Economy 19 August 2024

Scammers and grifters.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
August 20, 2024 7:58 am

I think it is closing so fast that it will jam Blackout Bowen’s and Luigi’s fingers between the bottom rail and the sill.

I saw a Sky clip headline asserting that Starlink is wiping the floor with the NBN. I remember when NBN was first being concocted they were including various heroic assumptions to make the numbers add up to ‘profit’.

Not having read the contracts I took a guess that the government would have had to put into place various clauses that would protect the NBN from market reality. I wonder if, with typical bureaucratic mole-vision, the overlooked the possibility of what Starlink is.

Chalk up another Labor ‘idea’ of ‘investing in the future’ and becoming ‘a world technology leader’.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 20, 2024 8:00 am

More EV woes.

GM Lays Off 1,000 Software, Services Employees (19 Aug)

CNBC said the job cuts include roughly 600 jobs at GM’s tech campus near Detroit. GM, which said about half of the cuts are in the United States, said the cuts were not because of cost cuts but came after a review of operations following the departure of Mike Abbott, executive vice president of software and services in March who left due to health reasons.

Abbott, a former Apple executive, was hired in 2023 to spearhead GM’s software development efforts amid an investment rampup from the automaker in electric vehicles and subscription based services.

Go back to making cars that drivers want, GM peoples, before you crash and burn the company.

shatterzzz
August 20, 2024 8:03 am

Gotta luv “our” ABC .. they’ve re-vamped the ABCNews page & dun the “unthinkable” .. gone FULL Mail Online style ….. One should never, ever go FULL MAIL online copy .. LOL!
Basically, they’ve gone from mediocre to pathetic and the “news” seems to have gotten lost amidst the plethora of sob & social media offerings ….
Tho .. on the bright side it saves bothering to access ABC if your after “news” .. LOL!

Roger
Roger
August 20, 2024 8:05 am

‘Words can be bullets’: Tony Burke calls on people to ‘not underestimate’ harm of racism (Sky News, 19 Aug)

Burke is speaking in the context of the recently published multicultural framework review.

Basically a manifesto designed to embed identity politics in government; the Voice on steroids, if you will.

Read it and contact your federal member with your concerns.

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Mother Lode
Mother Lode
August 20, 2024 8:09 am

It would be great if the f ckwit would stop dancing on the graves of people who are unfortunate enough to die of cancer, and basing his tap-dancing routine on the scribblings of dribbling morons.

Persactly.

I accidentally opened the link because I had just turned the page and my first thought was “Who are these guys?” The entire argument seemed to work purely on constantly saying she had been vaccinated and she got brain cancer. Just join the dots!

Recounting her glee at being vaccinated just adds a level of ghoulish delight. She did it to herself!

I wonder what people used to die of before the Covid vaccines?

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
August 20, 2024 8:18 am

It is satisfying to see relations between Mo’s mob (the ones who pray with their date higher in the air than their heads or hearts) and Labor strained.

Labor welcomed the Mo Bros thinking they could use them to lock in a captive vote demographic.

So Labor thought they were using the Muzzies, and the Muzzies thought they were using Labor.

Look who guessed right?

duncanm
duncanm
August 20, 2024 8:18 am

UK is now releasing prisoners to make space for the memers

shatterzzz
August 20, 2024 8:20 am

How pathetic can “journos” get ..? .. Reading a frill-filler piece on Queen Camilla in the Mail online and she is captioned as .. the King’s wife …! .. How insulting is that ..?
The Queen of England is …….. that bloke’s wife .. FFS!

Crossie
Crossie
August 20, 2024 8:34 am

Here are a few impressions from my visit to Malmo that ended last week, the trip continues in Germany. The whole place is obsessed with bicycles, young, old and everyone in between pedal all over town. Pedestrians have to give them the right of way except at marked crossings. I suppose it makes sense for them as there is no parking in the town centre and when you get a spot it is very expensive.

The residents are very keen to enjoy the brief summer by dining in footpath restaurants. Most of the menu offerings are some form of seafood, I even tried pickled herring. Not bad.

In my initial report about ten days ago I noted that the middle-easterners were not much in evidence. By the time I returned to Malmo from west coast of Sweden they were back in force. The young men were definitely not bicycle fans, they drove around in very loud cars. While having dinner at an outdoor restaurant there was even a pro-Palestine protest passing by though it was pointed out to me to note that they only numbered about a dozen protesters, significantly down from the earlier demos. Everyone just ignored their caterwauling.

Finally, the Swedes’ dedication to recycling and responsible rubbish disposal borders on fanatical. They even have several bins just for different colours of glass. Since religion doesn’t seem to be their thing environmentalism might be filling their spiritual needs. All in all a nice place to visit but too cold for me, I needed a jacket every day yet it was high summer.

Figures
Figures
August 20, 2024 8:37 am

Sympathy for Jane Hansen now?

FMD.

She didn’t care at all about babies who had died from routine vaccinations – they were just a necessary sacrifice because she had told herself (based on zero evidence) that vaccines saved lives of other babies.

Weird though because she adored abortion and never had concerns about the millions of babies who die each year through that procedure.

She is in hell, exactly where she belongs. Along with everybody else who finds it acceptable to poison or abort babies.

eric hinton
eric hinton
August 20, 2024 8:46 am

Um, Cat word nuts, when or, did ‘ocker’ fall out of the lexicon? My guess it was with the rise of the new cultural cringe.

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Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
August 20, 2024 8:48 am

Economic gravity sucks, doesn’t it green peoples?

Clean Fuel Startups Were Supposed to Be the Next Big Thing. Now They Are Collapsing (19 Aug, via WUWT)

A company backed by United Airlines that raised hundreds of millions of dollars to turn trash into jet fuel appears to have shut down. Another, backed by Airbus, JetBlue and GE Aerospace, that was working on using hydrogen to power planes went bust. Chevron, BP and Shell, meanwhile, are scaling back projects to make biofuels from cooking fats, oils, greases and plant material.

“The excitement of the early days has not lived up to the hype,” said Andy Marsh, chief executive of Plug Power, a startup that recently opened one of the country’s first plants making green hydrogen, a potential replacement for fossil fuels in industries such as steel making and chemical production.

Shares of Plug Power have tumbled more than 90% since the passage of the U.S. climate law two years ago. Shares of biofuels startup Gevo, where Marsh is a board member, are down about 80% in that span. …

Many clean-fuel projects have become money pits, in part because of the great amounts of power they need. High interest rates, supply-chain disruptions and expensive power-grid upgrades have driven up electricity prices.

It’s quite a long and detailed article, so RTWT. Both the biofuels and the green hydrogen industries would collapse immediately if subsidies and edicts were withdrawn, since they don’t make economic sense.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
August 20, 2024 8:50 am

Figures,

What causes smallpox, and why don’t we see it any more?

Black Ball
Black Ball
August 20, 2024 8:50 am

Shannon Deery on the rail loop bullshit:

When is the right time to do a political U-turn?

It’s the question that must be front of mind for Jacinta Allan and her Cabinet right now as pressure mounts to dump the $34.5bn political albatross strangling the government: the Suburban Rail Loop.

We’ve long known Cabinet is split over its support for the project.

Leading the push ahead at all costs brigade is Allan, who says the state can’t afford not to proceed with the project.

Against her is her deputy Ben Carroll who sees it as a deadweight hampering the government’s ability to drive down debt and invest in key areas of health and education.

Detractors of the SRL also fear it is restricting the government’s ability to spend in vulnerable electorates including seats in its traditional heartland areas where it is haemorrhaging support.

Concerns have now reached political fever pitch with party elders openly discussing the need to dump the train line – a sure sign that a U-turn could be coming.

Crisis talks escalated among the highest levels of the ALP at the weekend after ratings agency Standard & Poors warned the state’s credit rating would be slashed if the government pushed ahead with Allan’s pet project.

It’s hard to remember a ratings agency ever tying the state’s future to a single project in such a way.

Some politicos say it’s never happened.

The warning is clear: push ahead with SRL and risk financial collapse.

A credit downgrade would push Victoria to a record low rating which would lead to increased borrowing costs of between 0.1 per cent and 0.5 per cent at a time when the state’s debt is ballooning. S&P aren’t bluffing – they downgraded Victoria an unprecedented two notches to AA, from AAA, in December 2020.

But they are getting impatient.

Treasurer Tim Pallas has for years been promising that Victoria is on the path to fiscal recovery.

But he’s begun to resemble something of a Spring St snake oil salesman who is limping from budget to budget selling good news against a very bleak reality.

When he took over the state’s finances in 2014 Victoria’s debt level was about $20bn.

We’re currently on track to reach a net debt record of $187.8bn by 2027-28.

At least that’s the official forecast.

Just three months on from the budget and senior government sources say it’s spending assumptions are already in tatters.

Since May the government has announced an extra $1.5bn in health spending over the next 12 months – put that over the forwards and Pallas is looking at a $6bn blowout.

Then there’s the unbudgeted $1bn wages deal for nurses, and probably another $1.3bn in extra pay demands for our emergency service workers who are all negotiating new wage agreements.

Just 13 weeks on from the budget and we can already estimate almost $9bn in obvious blowouts, never mind what else is to come.

Pallas knows things are dire.

How else to explain his completely unsolicited public comments last week in which he left the door open to hiking taxes while warning his colleagues to stop spending so much.

It appeared a message targeted squarely at ratings agencies who he met with in New York last month to assure them, no doubt, Victoria was on the path back to fiscal responsibility.

That would have taken some doing, given sources familiar with the conversations insist the SRL was a hot topic of conversation.

There are varying versions of how the talks played out, but most agree Pallas was told to stop the expensive indulgence.

The public commentary on the issue was blunt enough.

“If Victoria pushes ahead with the Suburban Rail Loop without additional federal government funding, the state’s fiscal outlook may weaken, further eroding its credit standing,” S&P analyst Anthony Walker told this paper.

One can only imagine how the private chats went down.

Some claim Pallas is slowly backing away from SRL but having a tough time convincing Allan and her train gang to follow suit.

Publicly he appears to be living a fantasy where the SRL is immune from Victoria’s disastrous track record of blowouts and ever rising construction costs.

He told a parliamentary hearing recently that not only would the project be delivered on budget, he wasn’t worried that the Commonwealth had shown no interest to expand on their initial $2bn investment.

And he kept a straight face.

Former UK chancellor George Osborne and his shadow, Ed Balls, discussed political U-turns in a recent episode of their Political Currency podcast.

Osborne argued that a good politician always knows if things are going pear-shaped they need to U-turn, fast, and have a damn good explanation for it.

But that depended on having left the door ajar for a potential exit strategy.

Balls reckoned the greatest political leaders pushed on against all odds, refused to U-turn, and ultimately prevailed.

The Premier might have left herself very little wriggle room to get out of the SRL politically unscathed.

But forging ahead may no longer be an option.

Setting aside some spondoola for our our deplorable road system would be of greater benefit.

Figures
Figures
August 20, 2024 8:51 am

Mother Lode

The entire argument seemed to work purely on constantly saying she had been vaccinated and she got brain cancer. Just join the dots!

Sorry. But you don’t get to make this argument. I can but you can’t.

Whenever someone has the sniffles and scientists find some “virus” in them, you immediately blame said virus for said sniffles.

If someone gets a rash and then dies soon after, you say “must have been the rash”.

You are more than happy to use correlation = causation arguments when they fit your narrative (ie the government’s narrative) but when they don’t fit it, you instantly become the ultimate skeptic.

If you don’t know what “challenge, dechallenge, rechallenge” (CDR) is then you should read up on it before discussing causation in medicine.

There has *never* been a CDR case linking viruses to illness. OTOH, there are many many such examples linking vaccines to injury/death. That doesn’t prove that Hansen died of a vaccine injury, merely that vaccine injury has in fact been proven to occur whereas there is zero valid evidence that any virus has ever caused any injury or death in all of history.

calli
calli
August 20, 2024 8:58 am

I must live in a hole in the ground (I have other hobbit-like tendencies, elevenses for instance).

I can’t for the life of me ever remember seeing Jane Hansen. So much for “legendary”.

As for valued people under the pump, I wonder how Ranga went with his emergency op. All the best if you’re reading this, sir. We can’t do without our redheads, even the grisly ones.

calli
calli
August 20, 2024 9:01 am

Aha! There you are, hiding in the nested comments!

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
August 20, 2024 9:01 am

Roger.
Any report that mentions Al Grassby in a positive light is a pile of shit.

Also, Paging Monty of malmo: Monty of malmo to the courtesy phone…

https://x.com/RMistereggen/status/1825444317290209763

Rebecca Mistereggen

@RMistereggen

A Swedish police chief admits he quit after receiving death threats from a criminal gang. He no longer believes that the police alone can solve gang crime in Sweden..

Roger
Roger
August 20, 2024 9:04 am

Roger.

Any report that mentions Al Grassby in a positive light is a pile of shit.

A p.o.s. that will be placed at the centre of government in perpetuity if Labor has its way.

For starters, much of home affairs and immigration will be placed in a super-portfolio to be dubbed Multiculturalism, Immigration and Citizenship.

What does that tell you?

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Roger
Roger
August 20, 2024 9:07 am

The warning is clear: push ahead with SRL and risk financial collapse.

Unless they get a federal bailout for the project.

Come on down, Albo!

Figures
Figures
August 20, 2024 9:12 am

Motherlode

The astonishing part about rashes is that literally everybody on the planet since Adam was a boy was able to directly observe precisely what causes diseases (not just rashes but practically all of them) and yet, one and only one person in a hundred billion worked it out.

Rashes (epidermis) – whether they are called smallpox, chickenpox, measles, hand foot and mouth, roseola, impetigo etc are almost always focused.

We give them different names but epidermis rashes are all the same and all have the same cause – the mind. That is the only possible way they can be focused.

For example, what we call hand foot and mouth sees a baby with a rash on corresponding parts of their body!

You can only sit and marvel at just how stupid people are that they all saw a baby with a rash on both hands and nowhere else on their body and came to the conclusion that it was caused by something that spreads through the bloodstream!!!

Recurring cold sores typically affect the exact same part of people’s lips. How does the “virus” know how to do that? How can it be limited like that?

It can’t. Obviously. (Note that cold sores are dermis not epidermis so whilst they are still caused by the mind and still focused, the triggering trauma is of a different kind).

The triggering trauma for epidermis rashes is separation – noting that this could be wanting to be separated (eg nappy rash) or wanting *not to* be separated (eg new mother going back to work). The rash occurs where the subconscious mind associates the separation trauma.

Note that it is impossible to die from an epidermis rash and it’s a healing phase (ie the rash occurs when the trauma is resolved). Any associated deaths that might occur would be something like incessant scratching leading to sepsis. In the trauma phase (before resolution) the skin is rough and desensitised and we rarely even notice it.

So now you know. Not only what I have told you is true, it is astonishingly obvious. Once you recognise that rashes can be focused (and they almost always are in some way) then there is absolutely no possible explanation for them other than the mind.

It also explains why they sometimes cluster amongst multiple people. Siblings would share the same trauma if their mother returns to work so they would all possibly get the rash. A pox/measles party has zero benefit as there is no such thing as immunity but they could “work” if the kids who are forced to spend time with a disgusting looking strange kid feel “stuck to” them for a time.

Diseases that are associated with traumas that are likely to be shared (eg separation) are what we think of as being “contagious” (rashes) whereas traumas that are less likely to be shared (eg devaluation) are not thought of as contagious (musculoskeletal issues). But any illness can cluster or not cluster because any trauma can be experienced by just one or multiple people.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
August 20, 2024 9:14 am

The bee, you magnificent bustards.
http://ace.mu.nu/archives/bbkamalarussianagent.jpg

Figures
Figures
August 20, 2024 9:24 am

Motherlode, just in case my response wasn’t clear.

Smallpox is exactly as common today as it ever was. It never caused any mass deaths (except for when it was mistreated and led to sepsis) in the past and it doesn’t now.

We no longer call it smallpox and instead call it monkeypox. Or pellagra or severe chickenpox etc.

When that disgusting POS Jenner started us down the path of mass poisoning people there was no such thing as severe chickenpox – literally by definition. But smallpox vaccinated people still kept on getting pox. And it sometimes still looked very severe. So they decided that they must have got a hitherto unknown condition known as severe chickenpox (or spurious cowpox or other ddx).

Of course, we now have a vaccine for chickenpox! And, similarly, chickenpox has been renamed to make it look like that vaccine works – so now chicken pox typically gets called impetigo.

Note though, as I said, there is no actual distinction between what we call measles and what we call pox. Most would say “but blistering!” but that is meaningless. Think about a kid with 20 spots, 5 of them blister and 15 don’t. Is that pox or measles (which is now typically called roseola or HFM or 5ths)? No way of saying.

You could then say “but the viruses are different!” if you were a complete moron – and 99.9999% of the population would say this. Of course, you would be a complete moron though because for 99.9999% of history we had no such tests – even assuming the ones we have today are valid (which they’re not).

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
August 20, 2024 9:32 am

Just rewatched The Office (UK version) and it suddenly struck me –
Albo is the David Brent of Oz politics.

Roger
Roger
August 20, 2024 9:36 am

The Australian has obtained correspondence showing Health Minister Mark Butler was warned nine months ago that palliative care patients were in danger of losing access to vital opioid analgesic medicines, particularly liquid morphine, but it appears no effective action was taken.

Australian & New Zealand Society for Palliative Medicine CEO Joe Hooper says the shortage is a “government policy failure which has hit us hard in that patients at the end of their life cannot access vital liquid-based morphine medications to relieve pain”.

Mr Hooper said Mr Butler had “flicked it off to various departments and we got a response via the TGA (Therapeutic Goods Administration) which wasn’t exactly a call to arms or an action list”.

Other countries such as the UK had no issues of supply of the drugs, Mr Hooper said.

“The current government is failing because, first, we have no manufacturing and second, you’re relying on sponsors – the drug companies – to apply for approvals,” he said. “The government is telling us it’s really at the behest of the commercial interests to decide which medicines are available to the Australian public. So there’s a flaw in the process.”

ANZSPM president Michelle Gold said: “Oral liquid morphine is such a basic medication for pain management in palliative care, especially for children and other people who can’t swallow tablets.

“It’s flexible, it’s safe, it’s basic pain relief and not to have access to it, in 2024, is just extraordinary.”

The Australian, 19 August 2024

Butler’s preoccupations as health minister have been banning vaping and the promotion of redundant covid vaccines, in which context the phrase “looking after the most vulnerable” is often on his lips.

Where is the shadow health minister?

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Mother Lode
Mother Lode
August 20, 2024 9:41 am

No, Figures.

The argument I was mocking was where someone took an event from three years ago and tied it to a recent one, disregarding that the person will have experienced all manner of other things in the mean time (overseas travel, physical injuries, watching the Logies, etc) along with the fact that the human body – miraculous machine though it is – will have subtle imperfections that can send it careening off to its own extinction.

If, on the other hand, someone develops a rash and they start to get sicker at the same time then it is reasonable to assume either one causes the other or they are both caused by the same third, hitherto unobserved, cause.

So far that is still assuming the connection – and I think that is as far as you are going.

but now consider that the same symptoms keep occurring together – the possibility of coincidence begins to fade away.

Now add in that there is a track record of treating diseases as bacteria and viruses has led to verifiable results – things like polio and typhus have near disappeared – reinforce the theories they are based on. Every time they go searching for cures to illnesses and find them reinforces the principles. Along with our understanding of all the innumerable other principles of biology and chemistry and whatnot that reinforce each other. This is not simply a matter of picking out a model to explain disease.

The fact you can catch flu talking to someone sick face to face but not over the phone means something. That avoiding the air they breathe tells us how it is transmitted.

Germ theory works.

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Pogria
Pogria
August 20, 2024 9:41 am
Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
August 20, 2024 9:44 am

960 mill for road maintenance in all of Vic for the year and contracts just announced for 800 mill to be spent on a couple of level crossing removals plus a new station at Melton.
Top ladies in charge.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
August 20, 2024 9:55 am

I’ve just found out some time in the past I’d had a heart attack that I have no memory of having.

Tom
Tom
August 20, 2024 9:58 am

Just three months on from the budget and senior government sources say its spending assumptions are already in tatters.

A decade ago, Labor came to power in Victoria when it had $20 billion in debt.

Debt is now hurtling towards $200 billion because of Daniel Andrews brain farts like the Suburban Rail Loop, for which there is no demand and no business case.

It is still being funded because new premier Jacinta Allen is from Daniel Andrews’ socialist left faction.

Labor is the political arm of the trade union movement.

Australian trade unions no longer need members as they’re thriving on management fees from compulsory superannuation — while the number of unionists in the private economy is now just 8% and falling.

In other words, state and federal Labor governments no longer represent anyone because they don’t have to as super is their saviour.

That also explains why politicians like Jacinta Allen don’t feel any pressure to rein spending, They don’t need to while their union paymasters are swimming in rivers of gold.

Victoria couldn’t care less if it becomes a financial basket case and the ratings agencies hike borrowing costs while the Stupid Frigging Liberal opposition is unelectable.

Barry
Barry
August 20, 2024 10:06 am

Tony Burka channeling has-been duct-tape fashionista Cher with her “words are like weapons” line from “If I could turn back time”.

So we’ve dropped to this level of pop-psychology in public discourse.

Why they don’t just laugh him out of the room is a mystery.

Roger
Roger
August 20, 2024 10:10 am

Labor is the political arm of the trade union movement.

Or, as I like to put it…

Labor is an extortion & racketeering outfit with a party political front.

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calli
calli
August 20, 2024 10:19 am

Tony Burka channeling has-been duct-tape fashionista Cher with her “words are like weapons” line from “If I could turn back time”.

Like “Smash her!”?

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
August 20, 2024 10:35 am

Don Harwim — who could forget his scandalous ‘do as I say, not as I do’ during the Scandemic — when he left Sydney during the lockdown to escape to his Central Coast hideway with a young chap — Was Ross Cameron right when he observed that the NSW Liberal party was a Gay Club?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 20, 2024 10:35 am

Mother Lode

 August 20, 2024 8:50 am

Figures,

What causes smallpox …

5G and chemtrails.

and why don’t we see it any more?

Tinfoil.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
August 20, 2024 10:51 am

I want the next elections to have two Referendum questions, both binding on the winner.

  1. A halt to all migration for whatever purpose, for 5 years.
  2. A dismissal of all Race based Legislation from State and Federal Governments.

It’s time we brought these unruly governments back under control of the people who own this country.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
August 20, 2024 10:53 am

ABCcess and assorted other greenslime are fellating the economic chap who gave Fannie/Freddie a clean bill of health just before the GFC.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnpL1HwXNXk

To be a “successful” economist you must defend government spending at all costs.
Anything else and all the party invites dry up.

Siglitz
Figures
Figures
August 20, 2024 10:56 am

Motherlode

Now add in that there is a track record of treating diseases as bacteria and viruses has led to verifiable results – things like polio and typhus have near disappeared – reinforce the theories they are based on.

Polio has been renamed. Rates of paralysis (even if you exclude accidents and stroke) have actually increased since the polio vaccine.

Yes. Increased.

Polio is now called GBS, transverse myelitis, MS, etc

I don’t care for epidemiology but there is more statistical evidence that the polio vaccine *causes* paralysis than that it prevents it.

Same for typhus – plenty of people with these symptoms – we typically call it the flu.

Every time they go searching for cures to illnesses and find them reinforces the principles.

If by that you mean they engage in a huge amount of circular reasoning – ie they stop diagnosing a condition once a vaccine is made for it because they *assume* the vaccine works then yes you’re right.

Hardly what you call sound science though is it?

Similarly, they often increase the diagnostic criteria as well such that before the vaccine, they don’t require lab testing whereas after the vaccine they demand it in every case.

For example, in 1940 you didn’t even need to be paralysed to get a diagnosis of polio – let alone a positive lab test. Today, you certainly need to be paralysed but you also require a positive lab test *and* to have an army of bureaucrats agree that a dx of polio is consistent with their narrative.

Along with our understanding of all the innumerable other principles of biology and chemistry and whatnot that reinforce each other. This is not simply a matter of picking out a model to explain disease.

Sorry. I didn’t realise they were “innumerable”. I won’t ask for any more then.

The fact you can catch flu talking to someone sick face to face but not over the phone means something. That avoiding the air they breathe tells us how it is transmitted.

That’s not a fact. Indeed it’s obviously completely and utterly wrong.

If it were true, there wouldn’t be a single doctor anywhere on the planet alive (and certainly not a healthy one).

I’ll just say this:

If you take your baby to a doctor office to get vaccinated then, no matter what else you accomplish in your life, you’ll always be an abject imbecile. If you are scared of sick people then there is no way you would ever risk taking yourself or your baby there. OTOH, if you aren’t scared of sick people, then there is no way you would want any vaccines.

Now please, continue ML. You’re doing a really good job of making the case for the germ theory.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
August 20, 2024 10:59 am

Trump trying to imply Swift support.
Extract from Daily Mail below. As a Trump supporter I have to say this kind of stunt considerably harms his effort to be elected. Swift has a huge following and suggesting she supports him is moronic. Similar to his swipe at Joe Rogan where he suggested Joe might be booed at the UFC fights for appearing to endorse JFK Jnr.
I saw a clip from Kill Tony show in NY. They had a comedian who does a very good impression and even looks like Trump. He was criticising Rogan for endorsing JFK Jr. Then Rogan walks on stage and comedian changes his tune and says how wonderful he is.
He may not say it but from multiple shows I have seen would not be surprised if Rogan votes for Trump. He just may not be prepared to say it yet.
Unfortunately it seems Trump is incapable of accepting advice to tone down his rhetoric and personal attacks and immature comments (like he is better looking than Harris etc). The Harris Walz pair have so much he can mention but it is his uncontrolled jibes that gets the media attention and harm his campaign.

“Trump wrote ‘I accept’ alongside deepfake images showing women wearing shirts emblazoned with ‘Swifties For Trump,’ as well as a poster of the singer dressed like Uncle Sam and urging her fans to vote for the GOP nominee.
Although she has yet to publicly endorse a candidate ahead of this year’s election, a source close to Swift confirmed, unsurprisingly, that she will not be supporting Trump.
‘If she didn’t support him last time, she’s not going to support him now,’ they told DailyMail.com exclusively. ‘He’s clearly lost it. In more ways than one.’

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 20, 2024 11:15 am

Figures
 August 20, 2024 11:08 am

 Reply to  Sancho Panzer

What makes you think that Jenner and Pasteur weren’t the equivalent of transgender activists in their day?

Sure.

cohenite
August 20, 2024 11:16 am

Unfortunately it seems Trump is incapable of accepting advice to tone down his rhetoric and personal attacks and immature comments (like he is better looking than Harris etc). The Harris Walz pair have so much he can mention but it is his uncontrolled jibes that gets the media attention and harm his campaign.

Trump is better looking than cackles. Why shouldn’t he say it.

Trump is a great stand up comedian. People who don’t think he is funny are lefties or have some leftie germs in them.

Cackles and tampon tim have no policies so the only thing you can refer to is their weirdness and make fun of the bastards.

Salvatore - Iron Publican
August 20, 2024 11:17 am

Um, Cat word nuts, when or, did ‘ocker’ fall out of the lexicon? My guess it was with the rise of the new cultural cringe.

Fall out of whose lexicon? Hear it used every few weeks, which is about as regular as ever.

Jock
Jock
August 20, 2024 11:19 am

Seeing some comments from the states that Cackles likes to go on the turps. Is this wishful thinking or is she fond of the odd Martini or ten? Trump of course doesn’t drink.

calli
calli
August 20, 2024 11:22 am

Unfortunately it seems Trump is incapable of accepting advice to tone down his rhetoric and personal attacks and immature comments

Yes, yes.

Like running a long list of crimes and misdemeanours and then stating that he “knows their type”?

But it’s different when they do it.

Lysander
Lysander
August 20, 2024 11:24 am

Butler’s preoccupations as health minister have been banning vaping and the promotion of redundant covid vaccines, in which context the phrase “looking after the most vulnerable” is often on his lips.

Where is the shadow health minister?

I may be wrong but Anne Ruston seems to be of the Chrissy Pyne variety, just not gay.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
August 20, 2024 11:31 am

Self awareness- do you haz it??

This DNC is going to be awesome..

https://x.com/i/status/1825703343316152728

Black Ball
Black Ball
August 20, 2024 11:35 am

Seeing some comments from the states that Cackles likes to go on the turps. Is this wishful thinking or is she fond of the odd Martini or ten? Trump of course doesn’t drink.

See here

cohenite
August 20, 2024 11:41 am

Believe it or suck your toe!

Retired Minnesota Cop Makes Shocking Charge Against Tim Walz
UK Set to Adopt ‘Blasphemy Law’ to Protect Muslims
Kamala, Antifa, Paedophiles and Terrorists Share Platform
Dem Platform Begins With Rejection of America’s Existence“Our country was built on Indigenous homelands”.
Kamala Met With Jihad Capital Mayor Who Attended Pro-Hamas Rally
FrontPage Magazine | Inside Every Progressive Is A Totalitarian Screaming To Get Out

Nelson_Kidd-Players
Nelson_Kidd-Players
August 20, 2024 11:44 am

Indolent
August 19, 2024 11:02 pm

Considerable Discussion About Kamala Harris Public Speaking While Under Influence

Is that the one trick that allows one to be unburdened by what has been?

Boambee John
Boambee John
August 20, 2024 11:49 am

In other words, state and federal Labor governments no longer represent anyone because they don’t have to as super is their saviour.

Thanks Tom, but that leaves the public sector unions as the power brokers, and look where we are now. We are ruled by the comfortable bureaucratic middle and upper middle classes.

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Arky
August 20, 2024 11:51 am

Social welfare is out of control in this country.
Gut the lot of it.
Get rid of the NDIS. It’s riddled with waste.
Privatise education.
Stop gifting huge gobs of money to middle class bludgers who don’t need it.
Austerity now. The whole system needs a giant enema.
Meanwhile, people who actually want to work and create wealth and real prosperity have an endless series of government created hurdles placed in front of them, and worst still, no fixed rules.

Muddy
Muddy
August 20, 2024 11:56 am

A response to Roger’s 7:19 a.m. post:

While I’m certainly no fan of The Dutt and his party, what is needed is a tactic to nullify the public use of the ‘racist’ label as a debate-killer. The power of such a label is that it immediately places the labelled into a defensive posture, which means they spend their time and energy in countering the accusation, rather putting forward something more constructive, or rebutting their opponent’s argument. The initiative cannot be seized when one is constantly on the ‘back foot.’ It also places the labeller on the moral high ground, because the human tendency is to think ‘Why would X say such a thing if there wasn’t some truth to it?’

One way of doing this – not without risk – is to redefine the label by ‘owning it.’ What I mean is stating something to the effect of ‘If voicing the concerns of my constituents and asking for reasonable detail on a proposal that will affect ALL Australians makes me a racist, then … so be it. It’s not a term I’m comfortable with, but if encouraging a rational debate on such an important national issue is now deemed racist … perhaps the definition of the label has changed and I simply haven’t noticed? Besides, it seems to provide my opponents with a tremendous amount of joy and self-importance to fling the term about with abandon… etc. etc.

Black Ball
Black Ball
August 20, 2024 12:04 pm

Queensland politics from the Courier Mail:

Premier Steven Miles has sensationally claimed the LNP’s deputy leader wants “to see construction workers die”, before apologising for the quip.

Deputy LNP Leader Jarrod Bleijie had asked Mr Miles if he would reintroduce 24-hour right of entry notice provision for Queensland worksites.

“The Member for Kawana might want to see construction workers die, but on this side of the house we do not,” Mr Miles said.

It prompted a furious response from Mr Bleijie, who demanded an apology.

“The premier just said I want to see workers dying,” he said.

“That is the most offensive thing I’ve ever heard, I ask him to withdraw the comments that he made about me.”

I see. So why did the grinning idiot say this?

Mr Miles withdrew and said worker safety was a personal passion.

“My mother was a Workplace Health and Safety Inspector, there is nothing more important than workers being able to call upon a representative immediately where there is an imminent risk,” he said.

Just fantastic stuff Premier Miles.
What would the unions think?

Black Ball
Black Ball
August 20, 2024 12:10 pm

Mike O’Connor:

Some years have passed since Hillary Clinton revealed she had been shot at by snipers when disembarking from an aircraft in Bosnia.

“I remember landing under sniper fire. There was supposed to be some kind of a greeting ceremony at the airport, but instead we just ran with our heads down to get into the vehicles to get to our base,” she said.

Except she didn’t. When video showed her walking calmly from the aircraft with daughter Chelsea and chatting with a group of children on the tarmac before being driven away, she claimed she had misspoken.

She thought she had been shot at and had to run for her life, but on second thoughts, remembered that she hadn’t. No snipers, no shots, no running.

You and I tell lies or refrain from telling the whole truth for personal gain. Politicians do none of these things. They misspeak.

Federal Treasurer Jim Chalmers suffered an attack of the Hillarys when he claimed Reserve Bank governor Michele Bullock didn’t say government policies were helping sustain inflation.

She had said precisely that, and everyone including the Treasurer knew it, but there’s nothing like a shovelful of misspeaking when it comes to ducking the blame for the plight of those poor souls having trouble feeding their families.

Anthony Albanese suffered an attack of the Hillarys when he said that ASIO was vetting all Gazan residents seeking entry visas, claiming that he was directly quoting ASIO boss Mike Burgess in saying this – except that he wasn’t, because Burgess has said no such thing and the Prime Minister must have known this. Misspeaking, or deliberately and calculatingly misleading Parliament?

Is a half-truth also a half-lie? It’s a question that could be put to Foreign Affairs Minister Penny Wong following her remarks on the release of her government’s inquiry into the death of Australian aid worker Zomi Frankcom in an Israeli Defence Force air strike on a World Central Kitchen convoy.

“Zomi Frankcom and her colleagues from World Central Kitchen were killed in an intentional strike by the IDF,” Senator Wong said.

What the senator failed to mention was that her own government’s report had found that there were armed men in the convoy in contravention of World Central Kitchen’s policy, men who “gave the appearance of the presence of Hamas”.

The report said it could not rule out the possibility that the aid group had inadvertently hired security guards with links to the terrorist group, and said drone video footage showed at least one of these men firing a weapon into the air, and that Israeli targeting procedures were similar to those used by the Australian Defence Force, all of which casts the incident in a somewhat different light.

Misspeaking, or a calculated attempt to mislead?

Misspeaking has now been elevated to an art form in Australia, and become so ingrained in the political process as to be accepted as the norm – or has it?

The riots that erupted in the UK following the fatal stabbing of three little girls were driven in part by far-right extremists, but that was only part of the story.

As they spread, the marchers were joined by people who saw the riots as an opportunity to show their frustration and vent their anger at the way that they had been treated by the political class.

They had been told for years that their country would regain control of its borders, that immigration would be controlled, that their standard of living would improve and that problems plaguing state services such as the health system would be addressed.

Sound familiar?

None of these things has happened. They have been misspoken to for decades, and it is not difficult to understand the fury of those people who feel that they have been treated like idiots and that their country has lost control of its own destiny.

Taking to the streets was their way of saying that things had to change.

No excuse can be made for the actions of the extremist thugs who terrorised immigrants but it would be a mistake to think that the riots did not signal a deeper, more far reaching sense of anger.

It would be equally naive not to wonder if an ever-increasing number of normally mild-mannered, she’ll-be-right Australians are tiring of self-serving misspeaking leaders who play them for fools and if one day this suppressed anger will explode onto our streets.

Quite so Mr O’Connor.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
August 20, 2024 12:22 pm

Whomever at the GOP had the idea of adding helium to the DNC convention air conditioning deserves a raise.

https://x.com/i/status/1825707511758074198

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
August 20, 2024 12:23 pm

I was thinking about responding to claims of being rascist. Not that I care about such claims anyone makes about me personally but the likes Dutton in parliament by that useless POS steggles. Instead of being on the backfoot why not controlled aggression like, ìf you had a brain and character you’d understand we’re here for Australia’s benefit not some shithole place on the otherside of the world, that you want to import here. Grow up. It shuts down the claim and makes her look stupid. Well more stupid.

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
August 20, 2024 12:44 pm

After long and exhaustive research I have determined that Dana Perino is the most attractive woman in the world.

Roger
Roger
August 20, 2024 12:56 pm

Social welfare is out of control in this country.

Cost of aged parent visa: $50K

Cost of aged parent to taxpayer: $393K (Treasury estimate in 2023).

Number on visa processing waiting list: 151 596 (Home Affairs, 2024)

Yet neither major party will touch the program for fear of electoral backlash.

Just one example as to why social democracy – the political philosophy both major parties subscribe to, Labor out of conviction, the Liberals out of necessity – is unsustainable.

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Diogenes
Diogenes
August 20, 2024 1:09 pm

Sehr interessant.

Both Mrs D and I were contacted by the AEC to see if we want to work in the next federal election. Neither of us has worked for the AEC since the 2013 election.

I know a lot of preplanning goes into the elections, but we have not been contacted for years, and certainly not 13 months before the due date.

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
August 20, 2024 1:13 pm

What drugs were on Tintoretto’s personal use list?

bons
bons
August 20, 2024 1:23 pm

When the sneer ‘Photios’ Pooftas’ was bring tossed around a few years ago by angry disenfranchised Liberal Party members, I assumed it was just hyperbole.

Naive the lad is.

Roger
Roger
August 20, 2024 1:23 pm

I know a lot of preplanning goes into the elections, but we have not been contacted for years, and certainly not 13 months before the due date.

The window for the issue of writs opened a few weeks ago.

Rabz
August 20, 2024 1:43 pm

Cackles likes to go on the turps

Not to mention the hoovering of the odd kilo or two of Colombian marching powder.

Essential when attempting to safely dodge serbo-croation sniper fire.

Tom
Tom
August 20, 2024 1:45 pm

The Faceless Men of the Democratic Party finally wheeled out their puppet president at the party convention in Chicago just before 11.30pm US eastern time (10.30pm in Chicago).

The Faceless Men are farewelling the White House prop they have had for the past four years to hookwink middle America that the 2020 election wasn’t as crooked as Hillary Clinton or the entire Biden family.

The Faceless Men know that middle America doesn’t stay up ‘til 11.30pm on a Monday night for a boring cliché-ridden political speech from a demented old man imagining his heroic past.

And so the fake Biden presidency is finally put to bed.

PS: I laughed out loud — frequently — at the lies and campaign-stump cliches the old man’s minders had loaded into his telepromper.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
August 20, 2024 2:15 pm

Bungonia Bee

 August 20, 2024 12:44 pm

After long and exhaustive research I have determined that Dana Perino is the most attractive woman in the world.

Well spotted BB she is very intelligent too, former White House press secretary GWB

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
August 20, 2024 2:30 pm

Still waiting for the duks to call me. When I cam in the cardio bloke asked how bad it was. I said that I let my wife drive. He smiled, then giggled and then turned away and belly laughed. Then looked embarrassed.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
August 20, 2024 2:36 pm

You are big on assertions, Figures. Not much by way of evidence, either in demonstrated facts or analysis of them. I made my point – an epistemological one if anything (you may have been vaccinated against epistemology) that viruses and antibodies fit with a massive body of other ideas and work.

I was thinking it a bit like Godel’s incompleteness theorems – the limitations of proofs that you have to accept and just get on with what works, but I am now inspired to see if there is a Godel theorem about conspiracies where you treat everything like its a trick to turn you into a robot.

Black Ball
Black Ball
August 20, 2024 2:44 pm

Dana Perino, Megyn Kelly, Kimberly Guilfoyle, Anna Paulina Luna, Liz Storer here, Sharri Markson, Danica di Giorgio.
Put them up against the slags of The View. Rachel Maddow. Any of the Teals.
It’s a no contest.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
August 20, 2024 2:48 pm

Has there been a study done of the relative good-looks of female Demonrat political commentators (i.e. most of the Alphabet networks) and Conservative female political commentators

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thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
August 20, 2024 2:49 pm

This fellows crackpot ideas will never catch on.
We need more Stiglitz!

https://x.com/i/status/1825669932253679753

Wally Dali
Wally Dali
August 20, 2024 2:58 pm

Bungonia, I will now draw your attention to Eva Vlaardingerbroek.
You’re welcome, commisserations to the rest of the femmes of the right who will be second place for the forseeable future.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
August 20, 2024 3:02 pm

A couple of weeks ago I listened to an interview of Megan Basham by Andrew Klavan. Megan Basham has written a book so aptly titled Shepherds for Sale about the role of the leadership of Evangelical ‘churches’ which has seen the flying of pride flags in churches and accepting the transgender BS. It is a very important and detailed look at how the leadership of Christian congregations has failed to adhere to the gospels and bibilical teaching and drifted so far from the teachings of Christ — the hand-in-glove of the leadership of these large congregations and politicians — it is quite sickening.

Great name for the book too.

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Lysander
Lysander
August 20, 2024 3:07 pm

I’m reading this book atm and wonder if the cover is “bannable?”

Maus_volume_1_cover
Zatara
Zatara
August 20, 2024 3:10 pm
Delta A
Delta A
August 20, 2024 3:13 pm

Tinta at 3.02 pm.

Thanks for that, Tinta. Currently, our church (Lutheran) is going through the women’s ordination debate. Sadly, this will cause a total fracture as the conservatives remain committed to the teachings of Christ, while the progressives will take the ‘way forward’. It’s heartbreaking.
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Bourne1879
Bourne1879
August 20, 2024 3:18 pm

I think Figures went to the Peter McCullough Pierre Kory event organised by Clive Palmer on the Gold Coast.
About 20 minutes into talk by Dr McCann about vaccine injuries a guy gets up and walks out shouting “there is no virus”.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
August 20, 2024 3:24 pm

The woke mind virus continues.

Apparently the South 32 offices have been fitted (at great expense) with a gender neutral shitter. In addition to the usual male/female ones.

https://www.south32.net/

Report from a chap who just finished up there.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
August 20, 2024 3:25 pm

Been put on the backburner again.

shatterzzz
August 20, 2024 3:30 pm

Getting a bit despondent .. running out of dayz for this, bloody, lip (top only, bottom not affected nor is my mouth) to heal up .. I can feel it’s on the mend even tho it’s still got the beware “Elephant Man” look ..
?Next Tuesday I’v’e got my pre-admissions appointment for Enlarged Prostate/Cancer surgery next Wednesday ( Not Prostate Cancer but close enuf to do both together) and starting to feel that I’ll get a knock-back, cos of lip and have to spend another few months on the waiting list .. been on it 6months to date ….
?Had hospital (Fairfield) treatment over the weekend & taking their medication even bought some Tea Tree Oil (recommended) and put that on .. If I get 10% improvement for the 100% pain off the Oil I’ll be happy .. FFS!
?But next Tuesday keeps getting closer …… lotza things crossed (not lips!) but gonna need a very quick turnaround .. something that has not been here since it all started 8 dayz ago ……………
?Bugger it I’ll buy a Thursday $100mill lotto tix .. gotta have luck with something .. LOL!

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 20, 2024 3:34 pm

Australia, Indonesia to sign ‘historic’ defence treatyJoseph Olbrycht-PalmerNewsWire
Tue, 20 August 2024 12:14PM

Australia and Indonesia have agreed to a major defence pact that will boost co-operation between the two countries, Prime Minister Anthony Albanese has announced.
Mr Albanese told reporters on Tuesday that Australia’s relationship with its northern neighbour was “underpinned by mutual respect for sovereignty and territorial integrity”.
“I’m pleased to announce that we have today concluded our bilateral treaty-level defence co-operation agreement,” he said, standing alongside Indonesian Defence Minister Prabowo Subianto.
“This historic treaty will bolster our strong defence co-operation by deepening dialogue, strengthening interoperability and enhancing practical arrangements.
“It will be a vital plank for our two countries to support each other’s security, which is vital to both countries but also to the stability of the region that we share.”
A strongman figure with a populist flair, Mr Prabowo is also Indonesia’s president-elect, having won 58.6 percent of ballots cast in his country’s general election in February.

Why does the image of Neville Chamberlain, pledging “Peace in our time”, spring to mind?

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
August 20, 2024 3:39 pm

shatterzzz

If there is a hard mass under the lip it might need a pop/drain.

Cassie of Sydney
August 20, 2024 3:41 pm

I’m reading this book atm and wonder if the cover is “bannable?”

It’s a great book, I read it decades ago.

Indolent
Indolent
August 20, 2024 3:47 pm
Indolent
Indolent
August 20, 2024 3:49 pm

And he doesn’t even touch on the control aspect of this whole exercise. Not to mention the deliberate human culling. Evil.

@catturd2

Just so you know …

The CDC, WHO, and world health organizations build labs to create viruses that would never exist naturally, then their partners Big Pharma rakes in billions selling you a false cure.

Then they all split the money to get their puppet politicians elected to keep the billions flowing.

Indolent
Indolent
August 20, 2024 3:50 pm

@LauraLoomer

WATCH:

@LoomerUnleashed contributor just sent me this video from inside the DNC Convention.

It’s practically empty.

So many empty seats!

Joe Biden is speaking tonight… doesn’t seem to be much of a crowd.

The RNC Convention was packed for President Trump.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
August 20, 2024 3:51 pm

Maybe it’s because to be a conservative woman you have to be grounded

I assumed it was because they are more comfortable about their looks and don’t recoil from the possibility a male might see them and think them attractive.

They probably also benefit from the traditional family focus which is harmony with biology and tradition.

Progressives ignore all that. Without any reflexion on that to which women’s natures might incline progressives have created a new version of female – an amalgam of various ‘up yours’ posturings at the hated patriarchy. They have no choice but to work, always telling themselves they should be advancing past men, and exaggerating what they think are male traits to do so.

Then, of course, they spend every moment looking for offence. It is part of their self-image of virtue that they must be ready to call out evil, and progressives have shrouded the whole world in evil. Almost nothing is in it own beautiful form. Pets are oppression, mothers with children oppressed by husbands, a man smiling at a woman is rape, minorities are victims of racism, history is a long unbroken war against women, love songs are about possession, literature (the good ones) are glossings over of systemic historical injustices by the powerful.

And as they get older the corrosive nature of this becomes all too manifest and they discover also that all the things they spent their lives on do not in fact provide fulfilment because they never actually had a need for them. Their achievements are just trophies gathering dust on a shelf.

On the other hand there are women like Candace Owen – sharp as a tack, outspoken, and a mum.

And loving it.

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Indolent
Indolent
August 20, 2024 3:51 pm
Indolent
Indolent
August 20, 2024 3:52 pm
Indolent
Indolent
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Cassie of Sydney
August 20, 2024 3:59 pm

On the other hand there are women like Candace Owen – sharp as a tack, outspoken, and a mum.

and a full blown anti-Semite, now denying the Holocaust.

Indolent
Indolent
August 20, 2024 4:00 pm
Black Ball
Black Ball
August 20, 2024 4:01 pm

Maus is a very good read.

Indolent
Indolent
August 20, 2024 4:01 pm
Figures
Figures
August 20, 2024 4:03 pm

I think Figures went to the Peter McCullough Pierre Kory event organised by Clive Palmer on the Gold Coast.

About 20 minutes into talk by Dr McCann about vaccine injuries a guy gets up and walks out shouting “there is no virus”.

Wasn’t me, but there are no such thing as pathogenic viruses.

A self-replicating pathogen makes zero sense mathematically (whether you’re talking about viruses, bacteria (which do exist but not as replicating pathogens) or any other form of supposedly replicating pathogen (eg malaria parasites).

There are no negative feedbacks in the system (the posited immune system would be a positive feedback) therefore recovery would be impossible. Given that recovery does indeed occur we can conclude that the germ theory is not mathematically possible.

Let’s take four observations that practically everybody in history could have made – importantly these could all be made before microscopes^.

1) Most people recover from most illnesses – so the cause of disease must be intrinsically self-limiting.
2) Diseases can cluster – so whatever causes disease can (at least sometimes) be shared by multiple people
3) Doctors pay normal life insurance premiums – so disease has nothing to do with being around sick people
4) Rashes are typically focused.

From these four observations the cause of disease becomes patently obvious – if you’re not a complete imbecile you will see it immediately. Astonishingly it took until 40 years ago before anybody did.

Indeed, just the fourth observation is sufficient to enable working it all out. The fact that (internally caused) rashes are focused proves that diseases must be caused by the mind. No other explanation could possibly work. The beauty is that this explanation also fits the first three observations.

The germ theory only fits the second observation – the other three observations demolish it.

As I said, practically everybody in history could have made these observations. And everybody can make them right now.

These observations don’t rely on authority or trust or “the SCIENCE!!!” or experts. Just you. You can observe them as can I – as can anybody.

^It’s amusing to think that the germ theory lunacy was proffered up *before* the technology to see anything as small as the posited virus even existed. Once electron microscopes came along the germ theory was already a multi-trillion dollar industry (current dollars) and fully embedded in exactly 100% of every institution on the planet. No matter what the microbiologists saw when they peered down their newfangled machines it was a 100% certainty that they would say that their observations were consistent with the views of the people paying them.

By the way, the responses to what I have written have been even more feeble than normal. Not a single coherent counterargument. Just Motherlode claiming that there is a big pile of SCIENCE!!! that all agrees with germ theory somehow or other – trust him.

Cassie of Sydney
August 20, 2024 4:13 pm

Whilst not on the same level, I do think some conservative women can be just as susceptible to idiocy as progressive women.

I think Liz Storer has gone off the rails.

calli
calli
August 20, 2024 4:26 pm

I have to agree about Storer and Owens. Sadly, there are quite a few just like them. They simply enjoy a wider audience.

JC
JC
August 20, 2024 4:37 pm

Indolent

 August 20, 2024 3:47 pm

This article is from June 2022, but it seems pretty relevant right now.

Monkeypox is a coverup for damage done to Immune System by COVID Vaccination resulting in Shingles, Autoimmune Blistering Disease & Herpes Infection

What an interesting assertion, indolent. They’re covering up problems associated with the covid vaccine with an illness causing pox lesions over the victims’ bodies.

Rabz
August 20, 2024 4:38 pm

Liz Storer has gone off the rails

She needs to stop hanging around that irredeemable idiot Joe Hildebeast for starters.

calli
calli
August 20, 2024 4:40 pm

Indolent linked to an article on autoimmune blistering disease and covid vaccinations.

That’s exactly what made my father’s final years of life unbearable. They’re all ducking and weaving about this once rare disorder, but in my father’s case it appeared immediately after his AZ shot and only got worse.

Something triggered his immune system and he had none of the precursors present in patients who get the illness. I noticed that there were reports of children breaking out in this horrendous illness straight after “vaccination”.

I can’t express adequately the disgust I feel for our governments, former and present, and their bevy of “experts”, now all rewarded from the taxpayer’s pockets and promoted far in advance of their meagre intellects.

Knowing the way all things Covid are suppressed, as are all things 2020 election and its aftermath, judgement will have to wait for a much higher court. The highest. Meanwhile I hope they get zero satisfaction from the remainder of their lives and that the law of ever diminishing returns bites them hard.

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Rabz
August 20, 2024 4:45 pm

Fauci, who is six times vaccinated, announced a week or so he’s come down with Covid for the third time

The evil ol’ ‘itlerist who decreed himself to be “Science”.

Look out, beagle puppies – he’s coming for you!

Rosie
Rosie
August 20, 2024 4:48 pm

“women like Candace Owen”
Just no.
Her Father in Law has made a statement distancing himself from her blatant anti Semitism.
There is no lie about Jews she isn’t currently regurgitating.
Smart she is not.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 20, 2024 4:53 pm

Fast lane out of Gaza: Australia among most generous for visas in worldBen Packham and Geoff Chambers
20 hours ago.
Updated 9 hours ago

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Australia is one of the most generous nations in the developed world in accepting Palestinians from Gaza, new figures suggest, fuelling criticism of the Albanese government’s use of tourist visas for those fleeing the war zone.
International data compiled by the opposition indicates Australia’s nearly 3000 approved visas for Gazans since Hamas’s October 7 terrorist attack on Israel far exceed the numbers accepted by the nation’s Five Eyes allies and like-minded countries such as France.
Belgium is a rare outlier, approving 2506 Palestinian refugees since January and 3249 last year, while Greece and Turkey are also dealing with large numbers of Palestinian asylum seekers.
As the government considers offering permanent visas to up to 1500 Gazans already in the ­country, opposition home affairs spokesman James Paterson said Australia was unique in its willingness to offer fast-tracked visas to thousands from the conflict zone.
“The Albanese government must urgently explain why Australia appears to have accepted more people from Gaza than almost any other country in the developed world,” Senator Paterson said. “Our closest allies and friends – including Five Eyes members the US, UK, Canada and New Zealand – are all taking a much more cautious approach and have accepted only a fraction of the intake we have.”
He said Home Affairs Minister Tony Burke needed to suspend plans to issue fresh visas to Gazans until he could assure Australians that “proper checks have been done”.
The demand came as Anthony Albanese sought to turn the tables on the opposition, revealing the former Coalition government issued more than 1000 tourist visas to residents of the occupied Palestinian territories.
“During that entire time Hamas controlled the Gaza Strip. They took over in 2006,” the Prime Minister told parliament.
He insisted his government was heeding the advice of national security agencies.

Mr Albanese attacked Peter Dutton’s call last week for a halt to arrivals from Gaza, arguing Palestinians were unable to leave the territory anyway.
“That border crossing closed in May. Did they say anything about it in May? In June? In July? The beginning of August? Not a peep,” he said. “It’s up to those opposite to explain why it is that they were silent about all of this for all of that time.”

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
August 20, 2024 4:58 pm

I can’t express adequately the disgust I feel for our governments, former and present, and their bevy of “experts”, now all rewarded from the taxpayer’s pockets and promoted far in advance of their meagre intellects.

It didn’t take a whole lot of thought and data analysis to work out that the risk/benefit was not to get the jab. I looked at the numbers and decided I’d not have it. I also looked at the quality of the propaganda coming from the authorities and other actions such as banning ivermectin and this confirmed my decision.

Your dad’s big mistake was to trust the authorities.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
August 20, 2024 5:13 pm

Candace is still eminently sensible on most matters. I will certainly grant that her opinions on Israel are aberrant to the point of abhorrent. But on all other respects she seems quite the warrior against totalitarian excesses of the left wing variety (and is there any other? Mao? Adolph? Uncle Joe?)

Can we safely go with Kayleigh McEnany.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
August 20, 2024 5:20 pm

Didn’t she recently convert to RCism?

I knew she was Catholic. Had not heard that she was a convert, but right there on her Wiki page it says she announced it just in 2024.

It also says she disliked conservatives as recently as 2015 – which is not to say that her anti-Semitism is a hold over from younger days as changing to conservative and becoming Catholic would involve such profound reflection of ideas that something like that would not simply leak through. I would guess she picked up something afterward.

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
August 20, 2024 5:22 pm

Bernard Gaynors email:

The Anti-Discrimination ‘Thought Police’ are once again out of control.

This time the Queensland Human Rights Commission is putting my friend, Dave Pellowe, on the torture rack because he declined to start a Christian event with a ‘Welcome to Country’ ceremony.

Dave’s view (and I agree with it) is that these ceremonies are a kind of animist, pagan ritual.

Now Dave is facing the blasphemy court.

Tonight I will be joining a large number of voices to support Dave. You can watch online here from 7pm! I hope that you can tune in – I’ll be speaking around 830pm.

The bastards are determined to crush us, the same as in Britain.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
August 20, 2024 5:29 pm

The Black Death, aka bubonic plague, arrives in Europe and wipes out 50 million people in 1347 and 1348, leaving Constantinople with 9 out of 10 people dead.

Figures: ‘It’s all in your mind! Walk it off!’

Gabor
Gabor
August 20, 2024 5:32 pm

Looks like the Russians still have a bit of push factor.

Key city advised to evacuate but most citizens refuse.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
August 20, 2024 5:36 pm

Regarding Candace Owens I used to be a fan.slthough never a regular listener.. I listened to a few of her shows after she went independent after splitting from Daily Wire. Picked up strong anti Semitic vibe and first shows not that great.
There are plenty of good podcasters out there and no time for her.
There is enough going on with Tucker Carlson, Rogan, Megyn Kelly, Patrick Beth David, some Tim Pool and Sky at Night. Plus more recently some UK stuff.
The Australian podcast scene is not that great. Interested in others thoughts.
Was interesting to see in Daily Mail that GB news was paying Farage 98,000 pounds per month !

Indolent
Indolent
August 20, 2024 5:36 pm
Eyrie
Eyrie
August 20, 2024 5:46 pm

Monkeypox is a coverup for damage done to Immune System by COVID Vaccination resulting in Shingles, Autoimmune Blistering Disease & Herpes Infection

Dunno, but the increase in advertising for getting the shingles vax was noticeable after the clot shot was rolled out.
Trashing your immune system leaves you open to all sorts of nasties including autoimmune ones.
Amongst our rellies and friends who got the clotshot we’ve seen all sorts of stuff like vertigo, skin issues etc, etc. None amongst those who were smart enough to resist the psyop.

Gabor
Gabor
August 20, 2024 5:50 pm

DrBeauGan
August 20, 2024 4:58 pm

It didn’t take a whole lot of thought and data analysis to work out that the risk/benefit was not to get the jab. I looked at the numbers and decided I’d not have it. I also looked at the quality of the propaganda coming from the authorities and other actions such as banning ivermectin and this confirmed my decision.

Your dad’s big mistake was to trust the authorities.

I had to take it to save my job, not ashamed nor proud about it but no booster for me like some others here who revel in it.

But you forget one important thing, family pressure.
I remember well, my brother in law came back from an overseas trip and had to go into quarantine at his daughter’s house or a motel.

He hated it and wanted to come home, my sister told him to get a jab, sit out the time or she will change the locks to prevent him entering.
Sad, but I assure you it’s true.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
August 20, 2024 5:56 pm

Mike O’Connor via Blackball:

The riots that erupted in the UK following the fatal stabbing of three little girls were driven in part by far-right extremists, but that was only part of the story.

As they spread, the marchers were joined by people who saw the riots as an opportunity to show their frustration and vent their anger at the way that they had been treated by the political class.

They had been told for years that their country would regain control of its borders, that immigration would be controlled, that their standard of living would improve and that problems plaguing state services such as the health system would be addressed.

Sound familiar?

None of these things has happened. They have been misspoken to for decades, and it is not difficult to understand the fury of those people who feel that they have been treated like idiots and that their country has lost control of its own destiny.

In fact this misspeaking has been turned up several notches by the combined effort of the political class: Government, the Police, Judiciary and the media. The Narrative is firmly that immigration is a form of national treasure, beloved by the People, and hated by the thugs and Neanderthals of the Far Right.

By extension, in a deft political circularity, the ‘Far Right’ is now defined as anyone given to the sin of Immigration Denialism – monsters who fail to welcome the New Britons and probably are only one step away from telling them to ‘go back home’. People who might have shamefully and mistakenly voted Reform at the General Election.

Interestingly, it’s the Grauniad, reporting polling on Starmer’s response, which points to the disconnect between elite and plebeian opinion on immigration:

However, voters appear to separate out their dim view of the rioters from their views on immigration. Two-thirds of voters believe it is too high.

The idea that condemning rioters was somehow saying concerns about the level of immigration were illegitimate was always a lie and the results in our poll show this quite clearly,” said Adam Drummond, head of political and social at Opinium.

The purpose of the misspeaking and the reason for its uncritical acceptance is that it suits everyone in the Establishment just to put things back in the box.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
August 20, 2024 5:56 pm

Indolent
 August 20, 2024 3:47 pm

This article is from June 2022, but it seems pretty relevant right now.

Give it a rest Captain Clueless.

Lysander
Lysander
August 20, 2024 6:00 pm

I’m not a Catholic, but I’m aware that the church has given considerable attention to anti-semitism since WWII and later Vatican II.

Roger, for a non-Catholic, you sure are well read!!!

Cats who want to know the RCC teachings on salvation should read Lumen Gentium, released in the 60’s as part of VII.

In short (and bastardised cos I’m in a hurry):

  • The Jews are and will always remain the chosen people of God. They don’t need to become Christian (but there’s nothing wrong if they do);
  • Non believers or people who’ve never met a Christian (say a tribe in the Amazon) will be judged by the standards they set for others;
  • Christians get the worst deal in Lumen Gentium: Since so much has been revealed to Catholics, you will be judged by your actions in light of those revelations and graces.

So, the more that is revealed, the more culpable you are. And yes, the Church still believes in total forgiveness but that pride and a rejection of total forgiveness, even in the face of God Himself, can still see people condemn themselves to hell for all eternity (yes, pride is that powerful)….

Lots more to write but that’s about all I can do this minute…

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 20, 2024 6:00 pm

‘Utterly disgraceful’: Senator Jacinta Nampijinpa Price sounds alarm on the EDO and ‘fake’ Aboriginal peopleAdrian RausoThe West Australian
Tue, 20 August 2024 2:37PM

Adrian Rauso

Senator Price says it is “utterly disgraceful” the Albanese government continues to fund the EDO. Credit: AAP

Federal Opposition Indigenous Minister Jacinta Nampijinpa Price has attacked the Environmental Defenders Office and raised concerns about people masquerading as Aboriginal in light of the Regis Resources gold mine rejection.
The taxpayer-funded EDO backed a protracted legal challenge to Regis’ $1 billion McPhillamys gold project in New South Wales by a small number of Wiradjuri people, spearheaded by Wiradjuri Elder Nyree Reynolds.
Environment Minister Tanya Plibersek late last week ruled in favour of a Section 10 application under the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Heritage Protection Act 1984 lodged by Ms Reynolds — effectively killing off McPhillamys — on grounds the development would harm “songlines”.
Ms Reynolds and the EDO have not responded to The West Australian’s request for comment.
Senator Price says it is “utterly disgraceful” that the Albanese government continues to fund the EDO — which is essentially a legal service for environmental activists — and called into question the organisation’s practices.

“We need to know more detail about the individuals that EDO have been consulting with regard to this case, because it has been concerns have been brought up about the individuals that the EDO have used for this particular case,” Ms Price said.
“We know, as Indigenous Australians that there are a lot of people who are claiming to be Indigenous, who are, in fact, are not Indigenous, and this is a growing concern amongst Indigenous Australians.
“It certainly is (a concern) amongst the Wiradjuri people . . . I have many conversations with those who are legitimate Wiradjuri people as well.”

Indolent
Indolent
August 20, 2024 6:05 pm
Roger
Roger
August 20, 2024 6:07 pm

Roger, for a non-Catholic, you sure are well read!!!

I’ve read the Vatican II docs & the Catechism, Lys.

And bits of JPII and Ratzinger & Denzinger.

Whether one accepts RCism or not, one should be properly informed about it.

Indolent
Indolent
August 20, 2024 6:12 pm
Eyrie
Eyrie
August 20, 2024 6:12 pm

The Queensland family best known for building an airport in under two years has turned its attention to the desperate need for sustainable aviation fuel with plans to build a $1.7bn refinery in Brisbane.

The taxpayers will be the ones paying for this grift. There must be from free OPM involved.

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
August 20, 2024 6:14 pm

An insight into what the ‘university’ of Sydney has become from an interview with a fine young man who is now a seminarian for the Catholic Archdiocese of Sydney:

‘Michael’s childhood was one of faith, and family, but his experiences at university, where he studied to become a teacher, were very different. 
 “There was a great deal of hostility towards the Catholic Society of Sydney Uni and it tested the steel of my faith. Am I willing to put myself out, be yelled at, have paint thrown at me, and be spat on? And I said yes, I am.
During the same-sex marriage debate, Michael and his Catholic Society colleagues had food thrown at them, were abused verbally, and were physically attacked. The police were involved at times.’

And the response from the university administration was three quarters of five eighths of nothing.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
August 20, 2024 6:17 pm

Israel recovers six more hostage bodies, Blinken says Netanyahu agreed to ‘bridging agreement’By Courtney McBride and Dan WilliamsUpdated August 20, 2024 — 5.31pmfirst published at 1.18pm

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Washington: US Secretary of State Antony Blinken said Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has accepted a ceasefire proposal to halt the war in Gaza and the next step was for “Hamas to say yes”, putting the onus on the group to end the 10-month conflict even as violence continues.
On Tuesday afternoon, the Israeli military said it had recovered the bodies of six hostages from southern Gaza without saying how or when they died. It identified the hostages as Yagev Buchshtab, Alexander Dancyg, Avraham Munder, Yoram Metzger, Nadav Popplewell, and Haim Perry. Hamas is believed to be still holding about 110 hostages, a third of which are estimated by Israeli authorities to be dead.

calli
calli
August 20, 2024 6:26 pm

So what’s the truth on the DNC?

A half empty venue or 4,000 delegates attending (according to Peta Credlin)?

Or are both statements true? How big is the venue?

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
August 20, 2024 6:35 pm

Man Arrested After Deadly Stabbings In Manchester, UK Government Not Releasing Identity of Killer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAjnZez02xE

Indolent
Indolent
August 20, 2024 6:38 pm
Nelson_Kidd-Players
Nelson_Kidd-Players
August 20, 2024 6:46 pm

The main downfall of the Victorian ALP’s Suburban Rail Loop project is that when it fails it shall, unlike the Inner Circle and the Outer Circle lines, not be able to be converted to a pleasant cycle trail.

Assuming it shall ever be finished…

Figures
Figures
August 20, 2024 6:59 pm

Knuckle dragger

The Black Death, aka bubonic plague, arrives in Europe and wipes out 50 million people in 1347 and 1348, leaving Constantinople with 9 out of 10 people dead.

Figures: ‘It’s all in your mind! Walk it off!’

If you’re going to make fun of my position you might want to think about the absurdity of yours.

The story we’ve all been told is that for a few years in the 14th century rats and fleas all got together and decided, en masse, to murder tens of millions of people.

Then the rats and fleas all got together and decided to stop a few years later. No fun anymore I guess. The rats and fleas had their fun and thought it best to return back to whence they came.

How can you believe such drivel? How could anybody?

Yet 99.9999% of the world’s population does. No wonder I guess as these are the same people who are so petrified of sick people they rush to get their babies injected with poisons but never once thinking about the fact that their babies are getting their poisons at the very place they are most likely to come into contact with sick people!!!

FMD people are imbeciles. It is the single dumbest idea in history. And 99.999999% of people do it.

Here is what happened with the Black Death – but you probably won’t be able to understand it because you are one of the above 99.999999% of imbeciles:

Just like covid hysteria, doctors blamed “bubonic plague” for absolutely every condition no matter whether the symptoms had any resemblance to having buboes. So the number of people in Europe who actually had buboes was likely very small – we have no way of knowing how many of course it could have been 20 per cent of sick people, 10 per cent, 1 per cent, maybe just 0.001 per cent. All we know is that once doctors get it in their heads that a certain condition is a “pandemic” then they will diagnose *everybody* with that condition if given any kind of a chance.

Lots of people did die. That is known with a reasonable degree of certainty because of sampling using parish records. It’s not a census but it allows us to have reasonable estimates of many millions of deaths.

But what did they actually die of? All we have is the nonsensical conclusions of lunatic historians and germ hunters.

The rats and fleas argument is obviously wrong because, as I said above, it would be reasonably constant in history whenever there are cities with rats and fleas (ie every city ever).

What was different was exactly like the covid hysteria (Spanish Flu was a little different because the hysteria was semi-justified (of course the cause of deaths were WWI experimental vaccines (such as for typhoid)). For covid, it was purely panic driven. People died because they were put on Remdesivir or ventilators.

For the Black Death it was the same. Absolute panic. There was no obvious basis for it – most “epidemics” fizzle out and people stop panicking. But with Black Death, like Covid, the panic wouldn’t stop.

People got terrified so they ate glass (yes). They had themselves flogged. They burnt each other in their houses. They drank arsenic and mercury.

Tens of millions of people who were killed either by their doctors, their fellow man or their own stupidity.

Zero deaths from rats and fleas (no more than usual at least).

Cassie of Sydney
August 20, 2024 7:02 pm

I will certainly grant that her opinions on Israel

It isn’t just her opinions on ‘Israel’, Owens now denies the Holocaust and earlier this year, after which she was sacked by the Daily Signal, she’d liked a tweet that accused a prominent rabbi of being “drunk on Christian blood”. That’s straight from the Protocols but Owens is in good company with most on the left now. She’s also good buddies with that pimp called Kanye West.

Milo Yiannopoulos has also now come out as an unhinged anti-Semite, accusing Israel of being a safe haven for pedophiles etc.

Jew hatred is fashionable now

As for Liz Storer, whilst I don’t think she’s fallen to the unhinged level of Yiannopoulos, West, Owens et al, I do think she’s fallen through a dangerous trap door, of which there may no climbing out of.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
August 20, 2024 7:06 pm

…Just like covid hysteria, doctors blamed “bubonic plague” for absolutely every condition no matter whether the symptoms had any resemblance to having buboes….

If Covid had resulted in the depopulation of melbourne by 9/10ths and the decimation of the rest of the population I would have been inclined to have thought the predictions of a pandemic were correct.
They didnt, and they werent.

According to Ozzymongdius their humours were unbalanced by a surplus of black bile and a sad ending to the episode of Neighbours at the hippodrome.

Miltonf
Miltonf
August 20, 2024 7:07 pm

Wow did Yiannopoulos blow his mind on drugs or something? I recall Breitbart sacked him because other employees couldn’t stand working with him.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
August 20, 2024 7:11 pm

Sarah sea Patrol bringing decorum to the Parliament.

https://x.com/ProfJoannaHowe/status/1825797902926753817

What a COAT.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
August 20, 2024 7:25 pm

But you forget one important thing, family pressure.

Yes. Probably because I didn’t have any. And perhaps because I don’t respond well to emotional pressures instead of facts.

I sympathise with those who were forced into taking the jab by the utterly immoral threats to jobs. I didn’t have that to contend with, and I don’t know how I’d have handled it.

Cassie of Sydney
August 20, 2024 7:37 pm

Wow did Yiannopoulos blow his mind on drugs or something?

In 2017 Milo Yiannopoulos was cancelled in a big way, but he was not cancelled by the left, NO, he was cancelled by the right, by never Trumpers and others, including Ben Shapiro. I believe he was cancelled unfairly, he most certainly didn’t deserve the opprobrium back then. What happened was that the right did the left’s dirty work, the left had been targeting Milo for months. I liked a lot of what Milo said back in 2016 and 2017, he spoke for many of us. But since his cancellation, he’s become one very angry, bitter, mean and spiteful homosexual and nobody does ‘spite’ and ‘mean’ like a disaffected angry homosexual. There’s nothing worse than a mean angry gay, and Milo is now the ‘queen of mean’.

I think his hatred of Israel and Jews is to spite Ben Shapiro, David Horowitz and Dennis Prager and other US conservative Jews. It’s an act, odd for someone who has Jewish blood himself through his mother. But it’s one act you can never come back from. He’s chosen his side, he now hobnobs with the pimp Kanye, Nick Fuentes and others on the far-right. It’s not a pretty side and there’s no turning back.

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Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
August 20, 2024 7:45 pm

But you forget one important thing, family pressure.

Oh I will never forget the ZOOM call from my son and daughter-in-law with my DIL basically saying that they were not comfortable with my being present at their home because I was unvaccinated – on that call I said it was amazing that I had to wait to be 67 years old to be told my close family members were not comfortable to be in my presence and that if ZOOM calls would be the future then I would not even bother with those. – I asked them to think about that and get back to me.

The next ZOOM call I again re-iterated that I would not visit again and that that would be the end of my relationship with them and my grandchildren and that it was their decision. Oh but 180 degree turn in attitude with their explaining that it didn’t matter that the vaccinated were getting anyway — blah blah blah what happened still smarts to this day but their bluff had to be called. There is one more lingering thing that has to be cleared up though never been spoken of again and thankfully all is well but I will never forget.

Miltonf
Miltonf
August 20, 2024 7:46 pm

He used to be very articulate and cold speak off the cuff well. Sad that he imploded. Maybe some unresolved inner conflict.

Miltonf
Miltonf
August 20, 2024 7:47 pm

I thought he had it in for Trump because Trump didn’t offer him a post or am I confusing him with that chick?

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DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
August 20, 2024 7:54 pm

what happened still smarts to this day but their bluff had to be called.

Well done. Never give in to blackmail.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
August 20, 2024 7:54 pm

Cassie of Sydney
 August 20, 2024 7:37 pm
Cassie I agree, I was a fan of Milo’s, I went to see him speak in Canberra, he was a guest of David Leyonhjelm’s and also here in Sydney. He was treated appallingly, that he couldn’t speak at a decent venue was a disgrace. I remember in Sydney the police force was out in droves with the Riot Squad and so many cops for absolutely no reason there was no trouble, people were put to such inconvenience — and yes he was cancelled by the right totally unfairly.

As for Candace Owens, I was a fan of hers too until her rabid anti-semitism and if she’s converted to Catholicism it’s fake catholicism because the bible says to bless the Jews and her anti-semitism is totally unforgiveable. I wonder how long her marriage will last, she’s married to an Englishman whose father, I believe, is a peer.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
August 20, 2024 7:57 pm

Never give in to blackmail.

Dr Beaugan, I’m not the type, but I am blessed that I have the wonderful Sunbather who is my rock and backed me all the way.

Rabz
August 20, 2024 7:59 pm

This was while the entire media was shrieking that anyone who didn’t get it was a dangerous criminal who wanted to kill all the grannies.

Not just the squawking numbskulls in the braindead lamestream meeja, Arks. I can immediately think of two utterly foul political knuckleheads actually threatening people refusing to take the quaccines at the time. That syphilitic drug addled imbecile lambie and that preposterous unhinged lunatic in the nothing territory, whose name I’ve forgotten (thank bloody goodness).

But no, I have not forgotten about what I was put through, much less forgiven. All for being completely correct at the time and effortlessly seeing through the hysteria and the obnoxious blatantly dishonest evil fascist shitheads purveying it.

I don’t fear much anymore these days, but I do fear that they will try it all on again, at the first possible not even semi-plausible opportunity they can seize on.

Except that next time, I’ll much better mentally prepared to deal with it.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
August 20, 2024 8:00 pm

He used to be very articulate and cold speak off the cuff well. Sad that he imploded. Maybe some unresolved inner conflict.

He sure could speak well – I remember at his peak, an absolutely riveting interview he did with Dave Rubin, an absolutely staunch Trump supporter and maybe peeved that Trump didn’t recognise him at all.

132andBush
132andBush
August 20, 2024 8:00 pm

Shatterzzz

?Had hospital (Fairfield) treatment over the weekend & taking their medication even bought some Tea Tree Oil (recommended) and put that on .. If I get 10% improvement for the 100% pain off the Oil I’ll be happy .. FFS!

Might have forgotten to mention that bit. 🙂

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Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
August 20, 2024 8:06 pm

 If I get 10% improvement for the 100% pain off the Oil I’ll be happy .. FFS!

It does sting a bit shatterzzz finger’s-crossed it works

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
August 20, 2024 8:27 pm

Look at the age of those in the orchestra. Excellent work.

One more clip to follow.

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zevnikov:

Gimnazija Kranj Christmas Concert Series – Anniversary Edition Series. In this series, I am going to re-upload some of the milestones from our performing and recording productions in the last 15 years. This recording is a true legend. National Radio’s balance engineer, Mitja Krže, crafted a phenomenal soundscape that perfectly captures the performance. The orchestra, featuring a generation of musicians now sought after by the world’s finest ensembles, delivers this milestone recording with unmatched mastery and artistry. These musicians can now be heard performing with the Symphonieorchester des Bayerischen Rundfunks, Berlin Philharmonic Orchestra, Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra, Tonhalle Zürich, Slovenian Philharmonic Orchestra, Vienna State Opera, Frankfurt Opera, Kremerata Baltica, Bavarian State Opera, and other prestigious orchestras around the globe. Our own master engineer, Iztok Zupan, meticulously restored this beautiful audio material, resulting in a spectacular sonic marvel. Experience this legendary performance, considered one of the best available on YouTube.The Slavonic Dances (Czech: Slovanské tance) are a series of 16 orchestral pieces composed by Antonín Dvo?ák in 1878 and 1886 and published in two sets as Op. 46 and Op. 72 respectively. Originally written for piano four hands, the Slavonic Dances were inspired by Johannes Brahms’s own Hungarian Dances and were orchestrated at the request of Dvo?ák’s publisher soon after composition. The pieces, lively and full of national character, were well received at the time and today are considered among the composer’s most memorable works, occasionally making appearances in popular culture.

Dvo?ák: Slavonic Dances Op. 72 No. 7 (Kolo) | Masterful Performance by Youth Symphony Orchestra

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fomN5so5ahU

BobtheBoozer
BobtheBoozer
August 20, 2024 8:29 pm

I had a link to a video about two women sitting on a park bench discussing how they got it wrong with the verbal abuse by multiple persons of people who refused the ‘vaxine’.
Unfortunately, it’s disappeared from my bookmarked list and can’t be found with Brave, Firefox, or that windows search engine.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
August 20, 2024 8:31 pm

zevnikov:

Messiah (HWV 56) is an English-language oratorio composed in 1741 by George Frideric Handel. The text was compiled from the King James Bible and the Coverdale Psalter by Charles Jennens. It was first performed in Dublin on 13 April 1742 and received its London premiere nearly a year later. After an initially modest public reception, the oratorio gained in popularity, eventually becoming one of the best-known and most frequently performed choral works in Western music.

He Trusted in God | from Handel’s Messiah – An Extraordinary MEGARON Choir

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdv49YMwBqU

Miltonf
Miltonf
August 20, 2024 8:34 pm

The continued self-unmasking of the western establishment in the last 8 years really has been extraordinary. Lately it’s the Pommy and Irish establishment. Their absolute contempt for regular citizens who pay taxes to keep them in the style to which they are accustomed. The Pommy establishment seem shell bent of punishing the demos for supporting Brexit which was never properly done anyway.

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132andBush
132andBush
August 20, 2024 8:48 pm

calli
August 20, 2024 4:40 pm

Well said.

Just for the record; our resident luvvie lapdog, Comrade Montgomery, was very eager to smear you and all others here who were either forced to get vaxxed or avoided it altogether, as “antivaxxers” or “cookers” and “science deniers” etc.
Not one shred of understanding/empathy for it’s fellow human beings, merely a point in which to stick a shiv and attempt to build an argument.

Covid exposed his ilk, his “lot”, and like my rough nut ex shearer now truckie (“uneducated”) mate said at the time, “Bloody hell, I thought I was the one who was a bit of an ar$ehole”

Miltonf
Miltonf
August 20, 2024 8:53 pm
Miltonf
Miltonf
August 20, 2024 8:55 pm

IngSoc in 1984 was very plummy iirc.

Cassie of Sydney
August 20, 2024 8:57 pm

Not one shred of understanding/empathy for it’s fellow human beings, merely a point in which to stick a shiv and attempt to build an argument.

Leftists never do. What did Stalin once say….

The death of one man is a tragedy. The death of millions is a statistic.

At least 100 million at last count.

That’s why he calls us ‘you lot‘, we’re a statistic to him.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
August 20, 2024 10:12 pm

Good effin grief!

I worked in kitchens from mid high school until a couple of years after employed as dishwasher. With that said, I would be doing the garlic bread for a 100 plus people, enrtees and desserts in between staking the washer for one particular place. Once the mains were served, the Chefs would take over desserts ….back to the dishes I would go.

Swearing in the kitchen was normal, family feuds was normal, however, I never worked in places with food standards like this.

Gordo is right to explode.

—-

Kitchen Nightmares:

Gordon being angry for 33 minutes | Kitchen Nightmares

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJqmhD-Rp7s

Indolent
Indolent
August 20, 2024 10:19 pm

@joma_gc

Hillary Clinton: “We can’t get driven down crazy conspiracy rabbit holes.”

This is the same person who has spent the past 6 years spreading unfounded conspiracy theories about how Russia stole an election from her.

Indolent
Indolent
August 20, 2024 10:28 pm

Very interesting long term chart at the link.

@robinmonotti

“CO2 IS NOT A CLIMATE CHANGE DRIVER” – John Shewchuk, Certified Consulting Meteorologist (CCM), board certified by the American Meteorological Society. Retired Lieutenant Colonel from the US Air Force Weather Service after 22 years of global weather operations, life-long student of meteorology since 1960.

John’s weather career includes:

US Air Force “Forecaster of the Year Award” for a centralized facility. Former senior forecaster at the Joint Typhoon Warning Center, Guam.

US Air Force annual “Merewether Award” for scientific support to the USAF aerospace weather mission.

US Air Force annual “Grimes Award” for tactical weather support to the 2nd ID ground and air tactical forces in South Korea.

Provided USAF weather support to Operations Desert Storm & Shield, Operation Just Cause, Operation Restore Hope, the Vietnam War, and Air Force One.

Member of Sigma Xi, The Scientific Research Society.

Member of the American Meteorological Society (AMS).

B.S. Meteorology from the Pennsylvania State University (PSU).

M.S. Meteorology from the Naval Postgraduate School (NPS).

Indolent
Indolent
August 20, 2024 10:30 pm

@robinmonotti

SAVIMS ON MONKEYPOX

We are deeply concerned about the recent announcements made by Africa CDC Director General Jean Kaseya on 13 August 2024 and WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus on 14 August 2024. It is important to address these announcements openly to the public. In his statements, Director General Jean Kaseya declared regarding monkeypox vaccines, “We have a clear plan to secure more than 10 million doses in Africa, starting with 3 million doses in 2024.”

We at SAVIMS would like to point out pertinent facts to both institutions and other relevant bodies of interest:

1. There is no prescribed vaccine with documented level 1 scientific evidence for monkeypox. The current WHO recommended live virus vaccines, Jynneos and ACAM2000, are (a) intended for smallpox and are thus experimental for monkeypox; (b) have reported serious adverse effects and (c) contain live viral strains which may instigate a resurgence of the eradicated smallpox virus.

2. The potential use of mRNA vaccines. There is no scientific evidence supporting the use of any mRNA vaccine to prevent or mitigate any infectious disease. The observed data of adverse reactions to experimental mRNA vaccines far outweighs any benefit.

3. Informed consent is an ethical concept that is codified in the law and is in daily practice at every health care institution. Three fundamental criteria are needed for clinical informed consent: the patient must be competent, adequately informed, and not coerced. It is not possible for any recipient of these vaccines to receive a legitimate informed consent based on the current research.

4. The article by Allan-Blitz et al, “A position statement on Mpox as a Sexually Transmitted Disease,” concluded that monkeypox is a sexually transmitted disease.” Preventative measures for this scenario should necessitate and provoke relevant clinical and primary health care and education initiatives directed at the high-risk group. There is no merit for the recommendation of experimental vaccines to the general population.

5. The statistics and analysis, regarding the collated monkeypox data in the DRC and other countries in Africa by the WHO, warrant further investigation, and must be independently audited. The areas in which the highest statistics were collated should detail the criteria for testing, the procedures for testing, equipment sensitivity and specificity, personnel skill, clinical scenarios, and provocation for testing these specific communities. What tests were done to investigate and exclude other diseases, including communicable diseases?

6. There have been no autopsy reports published on the deaths related to monkeypox. The lack of formal documented autopsy, lack of information regarding equipment test sensitivities and specificities, and lack of information on procedures validating random collation of data, further reduces and invalidates the authenticity of the statistics.

Based on our understanding:

A. We do not support the Africa CDC and WHO declaration of a global health emergency for monkeypox.

B. It is established that monkeypox is predominantly a self-limiting condition. This does not warrant vaccine intervention.

C. We strongly object, based on the scientific evidence, to the “emergency” rollout of repurposed smallpox vaccines or any other proposed monkeypox vaccine to the people of Africa.

D. We question the authenticity of the number of deaths associated with monkeypox, as reported by the Africa CDC, unless it can be verified through autopsy.

E. We warn members of the public about the inherent risks of taking any vaccine, including those proposed for Mpox, of which the effectiveness and safety have not been reliably determined by Level 1 clinical trials. There can be no justification for a vaccine with unknown adverse effects.

F. We urge the public to exercise their inherent human rights to refuse to give consent to any medical intervention that they do not feel comfortable in taking

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