Open Thread – Thurs 19 Sept 2024


Orchard in Bloom, Claude Monet, 1879

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KevinM
KevinM
September 19, 2024 1:41 am

Good moaning.

Salvatore - Iron Publican
September 19, 2024 1:50 am

Seems to be all sorts of electronic devices belonging to Hezbollah members, going ka-boom.

This operation is a whole lot more complex than a batch of tampered pagers.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
September 19, 2024 3:24 am

Walkie talkie explosions continue the command chaos for Hezbollah.
If I was a Hez leader I would be ditching my laptop.
Or consider early retirement.
Might be some comms checking going on in Iran.
Can’t be said enough, amazing work by the good guys.
Added benefit is that Greens MPs and Senators will be mourning the loss of their terrorist friends.

Tom
Tom
September 19, 2024 4:00 am
Tom
Tom
September 19, 2024 4:01 am
Tom
Tom
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Tom
Tom
September 19, 2024 4:02 am
1735099
1735099
September 19, 2024 8:13 am
Reply to  Tom

And you get a Donald Trump….

Tom
Tom
September 19, 2024 4:03 am
Tom
Tom
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Tom
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Tom
Tom
September 19, 2024 4:05 am
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Tom
September 19, 2024 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
September 19, 2024 4:07 am
Tom
Tom
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Tom
Tom
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Petros
Petros
September 19, 2024 4:17 am

So now that Rex is out of the picture, Qantas jacks up prices. Surprise surprise. How is this not evidence that they are price gouging? They should be forced to offer flights at the old prices. Of course, they are not truly a private company but a government monopoly.

2dogs
September 19, 2024 4:37 am

Ouch.

pets
Rosie
Rosie
September 19, 2024 5:25 am

“We know from Hezbollah themselves that these were 5000 devices on a secure network that had explosives hidden inside & bought by Hezbollah for their own operatives, and solely their own operatives.

Not civilians, active members of Hezbollah with pagers for secure communications.”

https://x.com/OzKaterji/status/1836427377338970135?t=uegbCzIlutsBsLSlR21gHg&s=19

Rosie
Rosie
September 19, 2024 5:26 am

“All types of electric devices owned by Hezbollah operatives are now blowing up in Lebanon and the region.

Apart from pagers and walkie-talkies, other devices such as fingerprint devices, solar power systems and radios are now exploding too”
https://x.com/visegrad24/status/1836423700301685131?t=yoDNaYA12yRX5VpENCu7sg&s=19

Crossie
Crossie
September 19, 2024 5:40 am
Reply to  Rosie

You want to behave like Stone Age savages then live like them, no modern conveniences for you.

Pogria
Pogria
September 19, 2024 5:58 am
Reply to  Rosie

Outstanding!

Rosie
Rosie
September 19, 2024 5:31 am

“In the coming hours near Beirut, the Lebanese Army and Hezbollah Security Forces will conducted a Controlled Detonation of Thousands of Wireless Devices which are believed to have been Compromised by Israel, including Pagers, Radios, Cell Phones, Smart Devices, Watches, Clickers, and Headsets.”
Back to bicycle messengers.
https://x.com/sentdefender/status/1836481251374666063?t=IjZ96VW6MkjH-Z0c9uQ6Gg&s=19

Rosie
Rosie
September 19, 2024 5:42 am

“This morning, Hezbollah switched their comms from pagers to walkies and then launched dozens of rockets at Israeli civilians.

Clearly didn’t learn a lesson from yesterday’s massive counter-terrorism action. But it turns out that Israel had already intercepted their shipment of walkies and rigged those too.”
Apparently bought all their comms equipment from an Israeli shell company, all preloaded.

https://x.com/AGHamilton29/status/1836426738307600882?t=1wNXbdfJ5DQp0HgLnQ9MuA&s=19

Rosie
Rosie
September 19, 2024 5:46 am

“Lebanese here. When will these crazy Europeans stop telling us what is right and what is wrong and how our region should be or look like?

Hezbollah is a tyrant organization that has killed more Lebanese and Syrians than anybody else.”

Also read that Syrian opposition fighters were handing out baklava to celebrate yesterday’s attack.
Hezbollah is a terrorist organisation.

https://x.com/hahussain/status/1836430720962613250?t=IxnGiJxn5aq3c_lntW7vew&s=19

calli
calli
September 19, 2024 7:07 am
Reply to  Rosie

Telescopic philanthropy with an hysterical twist. She should be made to watch Oct 7 footage.

Rosie
Rosie
September 19, 2024 5:51 am

“Residents in Northern Israel are reporting a Significant Movement of Israeli Military Equipment, including Tanks and Artillery, towards the Border with Lebanon”
True?

https://x.com/sentdefender/status/1836448600278339669?t=fy5rqm4i24SNN8JM9rbFbA&s=19

Rosie
Rosie
September 19, 2024 5:59 am

Might be paywalled
A Look at Hezbollah and What a Wider War Would Mean for Lebanon https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/17/world/middleeast/israel-hezbollah-lebanon-war-impact.html?smid=nytcore-android-share

Beertruk
September 19, 2024 6:02 am

Today’s Paywallion (edited to remove links hoping it wont go into moderation) :

Divisiveness and dishonesty will unseat the teals
Peta Credlin
19 Sep 2024

The conventional wisdom, that Peter Dutton can’t win next year’s election in his own right, assumes it’s impossible for the Opposition Leader both to win sufficient aspirational seats off Labor and to ­regain the seven formerly Liberal seats lost to the teals.

The Coalition’s cost-of-living pitch to win seats off Labor, it is thought, will not go over well in the teal seats, where well-to-do voters can afford to maintain luxury beliefs such as putting emissions reduction ahead of reducing power bills.

But this misunderstands what actually happened in 2022. The Liberals did not lose the teal seats because very large numbers of ­Liberal voters have permanently abandoned their longstanding preference for the party of freedom and free enterprise in favour of ­virtual Greens.

What the ANU’s Australian Electoral Study shows, in the most well-respected and in-depth analysis of the 2022 federal election result, is that only one in five people who voted teal had voted Liberal at the previous election; meaning four out of five did not. These weren’t disaffected Liberals – they were never Liberals in the first place. What helped them win was a sophisticated psephological strategy that depended on Labor running dead in seats with strong “independent” candidates, who then harvested Greens and Labor preferences, plus the votes of a much smaller number of discontented Liberals, to get ahead of the sitting Liberal MP.

The question, then, is what factors were at work to depress the Liberal vote back then; and are they likely to be replicated next year?

In 2022, the Coalition had been in office for nine years, had emulated Labor’s political cannibalism with a revolving door prime ministership, had dismayed traditional Liberals by massive spending and unprecedented restrictions on daily life in an over-reaction to the Covid pandemic, and had ­generally conducted themselves as a Labor-lite government, at least after Tony Abbott was deposed as leader.

As well, the voters who had been prepared to give Scott Morrison the benefit of the doubt in 2019, when Labor was promising extra taxes on investors and retirees, had a very different view after three years of his prime ministership and Labor was pretending to be a safe change.
While it’s true that there has been a long-term tendency, across the Anglosphere, for richer and more educated people to vote more to the left, and for poorer people to vote more to the right, a key factor in the teals’ favour was Morrison’s personal unpopularity and the fact that voting teal was a way to punish a disappointing government without actually voting Labor.

If only half of the 2022 Liberal defectors were long-term political emigrants to the left, as opposed to one-off malcontents who could come back, given that most of the teal seats are held with margins of under 5 per cent, there’s every reason to think that some will indeed return, at least with the right ­candidates. These are unlikely to be hardline conservatives or factional time-servers, but could be the kind of centre-right high achiever who used to abound in Liberal preselections before the party became so factionalised.

After all, if better-off voters want to register their disapproval of a government that pretended to be in the tradition of Bob Hawke but has governed more in the style of Gough Whitlam – by giving in to unions, breaking promises on tax cuts, weakening national security, and running an out-of-­control immigration program, including gifting visas to people from Gaza without any serious security checks – they can’t do so by voting teal. If anything, in the event of a hung parliament, teal candidates will almost certainly line up behind the green-left ­Albanese government. So, the only way to register a protest against a bad Labor government is to vote Liberal, not teal.

In 2022, the teals’ pitch to previously Liberal voters was that they were the candidates that the Liberals should have had, were it not for the malign influence of vested interests, factions, and politics as usual.
In fairness to the candidates whom Simon Holmes a Court and his Climate 200 cohorts were politically savvy enough to endorse, they all had strong CVs, and looked reasonably representative of the progressive professionals who disproportionately live in up-market seats; without seeming like climate fanatics. But that’s not how they’ve turned out. In fact, based on their voting records, and on their public demands, they’ve been far more left-wing than Labor.

Based on public data produced by the Parliamentary Library, the teals’ closest political collaborators are not the Labor Party (they’ve voted with Labor about 70 per cent of the time on substantive matters before the parliament) but the Greens. On substantive bills before the parliament, they’ve voted with the Greens almost 80 per cent of the time.

What’s more, the teals’ most recent major public statement has been to attack the Albanese ­government for reneging on its commitment to declare a 2035 emissions-reduction target pre-election; and also to demand that the government commit to a full 75 per cent target in just over a ­decade. Sure, especially in teal seats, quite a few Liberal voters think that climate change is a key issue. But are they really going to stick with teal MPs who want to go further than Labor, especially given that Dutton is committed to net zero by 2050 and has a credible plan to get there, while keeping the lights on, by using nuclear power?

Now that they’ve been in the public eye for some time, the teals’ real political orientation is much clearer. It’s not just that they want stronger action on climate change than that proposed by the Morrison government; they also want stronger action than that proposed by the Albanese government, as well. Reading their parliamentary maiden speeches, for instance, they weren’t just supporters of the Indigenous voice but enthusiastic and passionate backers of the full Uluru – Voice, Treaty, Truth – agenda; and their enthusiasm for Indigenous separatism and their belief that Australian society is deeply flawed doesn’t seem to have been reconsidered in the light of the voice’s overwhelming defeat.

On this issue, too, they don’t just want stronger action than that proposed by the Morrison government but stronger action than that now proposed by the ­Albanese one.

Then there’s the shop-soil factor that afflicts all MPs, especially those who enter the parliament claiming to be morally better than everyone else. For someone accustomed to decry bad behaviour in the parliament, Zali Steggall’s recent slur, that Peter Dutton was somehow being “racist”, was especially unworthy. So, too, the continued claims of a “misogynistic” parliament. Sorry, girls, parliament is adversarial and that’s not the same thing. The battle of ideas is fundamental to our democracy, and to try to shame MPs into some sort of forced consensus because you don’t like having to argue your case or defend positions only ­underscores a lack of values and conviction.

My instinct is that, in the longer run, voters prefer politicians who are honest about where they stand and who are clearly different from their competitors. Labor-lite Liberals generally end up alienating traditional Liberal voters without winning over Labor ones. After all, voters normally prefer the genuine article to pretenders trying to be all things to everyone.

Beertruk
September 19, 2024 6:04 am
Reply to  Beertruk

W00000TTT…seems to have worked. 😉

Petros
Petros
September 19, 2024 6:12 am
Reply to  Beertruk

The Libs have missed many opportunities to educate the public about the gerbil worming industry. They continue to suffer in the polls because a large proportion of the population believe the lies.

Beertruk
September 19, 2024 6:30 am
Reply to  Petros

I would be happy if the LNP shitcanned all and everything ‘gerbil warming’ altogether.
Worst and biggest scam eva!

Tom
Tom
September 19, 2024 8:04 am
Reply to  Beertruk

Thanks for posting that, Beery.

I don’t normally bother with comment pieces, but Credlin is an excellent political thinker/strategist and she’s right on the money about the instant popup Rich Bitches Party — effectively a creation of Malcolm Turnbull and Scott Morrison’s perversion of the Liberal Party.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 19, 2024 9:34 am
Reply to  Beertruk

The question, then, is what factors were at work to depress the Liberal vote back then; and are they likely to be replicated next year?

Oo Oo pick me, pick me! SloMo. No.

Truly an albatross around the Lieborals neck. Plenty of reasons not to vote Lieboral but this was first with daylight second.

Rococo Liberal
Rococo Liberal
September 19, 2024 1:20 pm
Reply to  Beertruk

I think it’s all rather simple. The Liberals should from now start putting up posters in Teal constituencies with the following words: “Vote Teal get Labor”.

The posters could have a picture on them with Albo looking down at the local Teal candidate in huis breeast pocket, similar to the famous Tory posters in 2015 with Alex Salmond and Ed Milliband.

Rosie
Rosie
September 19, 2024 6:10 am

Interviewers with pager victims, vowing to take the fight to Israel.
Unlike Hamas who would parade an endless array of innocent civilians.
https://x.com/hahussain/status/1836469406504780046?t=MHdtK0R8EfTzUeAihDOgMQ&s=19

132andBush
132andBush
September 19, 2024 6:32 am
Reply to  Rosie

It seems you have a dedicated downticker, Rosie.

Pogria
Pogria
September 19, 2024 6:47 am
Reply to  132andBush

The down ticker is going after everyone lately. Most likely numbers bob and his side kick, the Gimp.

Beertruk
September 19, 2024 6:15 am

More on TheirTealsGreensALPBC in today’s Tele:

ABC’S PLEASE EXPLAIN

JAMES WILLIS
19 Sep 2024

The ABC has been ordered to provide answers to the federal government over claims the sound of gunshots was added to a story about possible war crimes by Australian soldiers.

Communications Minister Michelle Rowland yesterday said she would seek a briefing from the public broadcaster over the allegation, describing it as a “very serious issue that does need to be addressed in a transparent way.”

A spokesperson for Ms Rowland said wanted a briefing “on the outcome of the ABC’s investigation into the circumstances around the editing of the audio.”

Almost a week after discovering the issue, the ABC is yet to explain how the sound of five gunshots was added to the 2022 online story, simply stating that journalists Mark Willacy, Jo Puccini and Josh Robertson “had no role in the production and editing.”

They were also forced to remove two other war crimes stories from the internet last year, after being successfully sued for defamation by retired Special Forces Commander Heston Russell, who was awarded almost $400,000.

It can also be revealed that Willacy, who has published dozens of reports about Australian soldiers attached to Task Force 66, was invited to a meeting with senior war crimes investigators in 2021.

Details of the meeting between Willacy and the Office of the Special Investigator (OSI) were tendered last year to the Federal Court.

Willacy briefed the government investigators on his research, including his belief that Russell had been seen in Afghanistan “shooting out of helicopters at civilians.”

“Willacy states they’re (ABC) working on further Russell stories including the one where he’s shooting out of the helicopter” the OSI’s notes read.

“The vision that Willacy has, it’s been told to him it is Russell and you can see a civilian on the ground.

“Willacy claims he has two sources that identify it as him.”

The allegation later became part of the ABC’s truth defence after the former soldier launched legal action.

However, that defence was dropped when Russell provided raw footage of the mission in question, which clearly showed another Australian soldier fired just one warning shot from the helicopter.

It is the same footage which is now the subject of an investigation, following claims by Channel 7 that the sound of five gunshots had been added.

Pogria
Pogria
September 19, 2024 6:47 am
Reply to  Beertruk

I believe Rowland as much as I believe the ALPBC.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 19, 2024 8:21 am
Reply to  Beertruk

If the journos had nothing to do with the editing and production, what is their actual job? Reading scripts? In that case, cut their salary to a basic level.

Also, if that is so, then the scriptwriters and producers are the power behind the scenes, and need to be scrutinised.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 19, 2024 9:38 am
Reply to  Beertruk

Hopefully this will gain some actual traction and not simply be fobbed off in traditional ALPBC fashion.

Rosie
Rosie
September 19, 2024 6:17 am

Facebook.
HEZBOLLAH CYBERATTACK: Famed Syrian-Druze journalist, Faisal Al-Qassem, who has millions of followers on social media, including a program on Al-Jazeera, wrote the following about the blow Hezbollah suffered today:

* “What happened to Hezbollah today can be classified as the largest preemptive strike in modern history. It can be compared to Israel’s preemptive strike on the Egyptian Air Force before the Six-Day War. Today, Hezbollah has thousands of paralyzed members among its senior leaders and operatives.”

* “If Hezbollah enters a war now, its wounded will not find a single available bed in Lebanon’s hospitals, as they are currently full of casualties. Worse yet, Hezbollah has lost its most important security and military communication devices. Checkmate.”
https://x.com/hahussain/status/1836469406504780046?t=MHdtK0R8EfTzUeAihDOgMQ&s=19

Crossie
Crossie
September 19, 2024 7:19 am
Reply to  Rosie

* “What happened to Hezbollah today can be classified as the largest preemptive strike in modern history. 

Preemptive? So what were all those thousands of rockets fired by Hezbollah into northern Israel just since 7th October last year?

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 19, 2024 9:39 am
Reply to  Rosie

Just like Pearl Harbour, only successful.

lotocoti
lotocoti
September 19, 2024 6:20 am

The hezbies might be a tad short-handed to use the Deliver By Safe Hands option.

Beertruk
September 19, 2024 6:26 am

Bolta in today’s Tele:

ISRAEL DESERVES PRAISE FOR STUNNING HIT ON HEZBOLLAH

Andrew Bolt
19 Sep 2024

What? No applause for these pager-bomb attacks? For Israel launching the cleanest attack you’ve seen on an enemy hiding among civilians?

Some credit, please, for Israel blowing up 4000 Hezbollah terrorists and supporters all at once, with just one civilian supposedly killed.

But, no, the response to this brilliant pager plot tells much about Israel’s critics.

At 3.30pm local time on Tuesday in Lebanon pagers went off in thousands of pockets. And after half a dozen beeps – bang!

Oops, the Taiwanese-licensed pagers that Hezbollah had issued to its men, scared Israel was monitoring its phones, had been rigged, possibly with an explosive charge designed to kill the bearer but not people around them.

CCTV and social media clips show the result. Men of military age out shopping, or on scooters, or in their cars, or apparently standing next to Iran’s ambassador in Lebanon, dead, or maimed – many around their manhood. People around them stunned but apparently uninjured.

A hospital in Beirut was quickly thronged by cars bringing in wounded men, including that ambassador – bloodied proof that Iran is too close, literally, to the Hezbollah terrorists who’ve fired thousands of rockets into Israel, forcing 60,000 Israelis to evacuate the north.

There are claims of 11 dead so far in Lebanon, and several more in neighbouring Syria. Lebanon says of the 4000 wounded, 400 are in a critical condition.

No other country I know has pulled off a kill as perfectly targeted, but no Israeli act of self defence is pure enough for its critics.

Most reports I’ve seen mentioned the one alleged civilian death – an eight-year-old girl, says Hezbollah – before mentioning any of the thousands of terrorists maimed or killed. Is Israel, and only Israel, banned from hurting thousands of its attackers if even a single civilian is hit, too?

Hezbollah meanwhile exploited the western media’s very partial sensibility by playing the deadcivilians card Hamas has also used against Israel, with devastating success.

The United Nations also went into its familiar spiel whenever Israel defends itself. “These developments are extremely concerning,” complained spokesman Stéphane Dujarric. “We, of course, deplore the civilian casualties.”

See how it works? If the UN can’t give Israel a pass even on a strike as surgical at this, then the mask is off. The problem is not how Israel defends itself, but that it defends itself at all.

But make no mistake. This strike is a stunning success. Thousands of Hezbollah terrorists have been put out of action.

Israelis, meanwhile, will gain heart. Their confidence in their army and intelligence agencies seem shattered on October 7, but Israel has since assassinated the top Hamas leader by planting a bomb under his bed in Tehran, blown up Iran’s top military official in Beirut, and sent in a ground unit to destroy an underground Iranian missile factory in Syria.

Israel’s warriors are back in form, and their critics can only howl at a prey that’s escaped again.

132andBush
132andBush
September 19, 2024 6:53 am

Large scale frosting event through NSW on Sunday and Monday.

Our neighbour has a very early barley crop and it’s already turning white. Any damage to canola will manifest next week in the form of dead seed pods with wheat needing close inspection to ascertain how many potential grains per head have been knocked out, we are at mid flowering which is a critical time.
I took a piece of equipment to my Walgett client’s farm on Sunday and Monday morning saw a frost there as well, the only crop affected will be the chickpeas which are mid flowering.
Also much consternation around Griffith regarding the grape vines which are just budding.

We have been told for years that farming would become more difficult because we would be living in a man made global warmed hellscape.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
September 19, 2024 7:17 am
Reply to  132andBush

Just as well you don’t believe your own ly’in eyes.

Vicki
Vicki
September 19, 2024 3:37 pm
Reply to  132andBush

We had a frost again this morning. The cattle had a good coating of white along their necks & backs.

JC
JC
September 19, 2024 6:46 pm
Reply to  132andBush

Lots of luck, Bush.

Mak Siccar
Mak Siccar
September 19, 2024 7:04 am

James Allan on fire in The Speccie. Doubtful that the Lieborals are listening though.

This Bill is a disgraceLibs must fight now for free speech. Or lose the election.
James Allan

Look, I realise that this Albanese government is adopting policies that give every impression that it wants to destroy our agricultural sector. And its intentions as regards our mining sector may be even worse, despite Big Mining basically keeping this country afloat. Albo et al. are changing labour relations laws to make way worse what at least half-worked. (There was at least some flexibility, though not nearly as much as you’d find in virtually all other Anglophone countries’ labour relations laws. Canadians like me are staggered when they arrive here and learn that two-bit, pseudo-bureaucrat tribunals overseeing a 120-year-old outdated labour law system abandoned everywhere else – jettisoned even by New Zealand in the 1980s – have a hefty hand in deciding on, and imposing, wages and conditions that result in thousands of pages of rigid rules that even the ABC, the two big grocers, charities and the most left-wing employers you can imagine cannot help but breach on occasion. Good luck trying to design a more productivity-killing labour relations system than Australia’s.)

Meanwhile Team Albo thinks it’s a virtue that government spending is so high it’s the only thing keeping us out of a recession. (Why not then just jack government spending up to 80 per cent of GDP, Mr Chalmers, if this is some good in itself?) And this in the context of six quarters of GDP per person decline – a massive recession at the level that matters: how each individual is doing. The idiocy of the Keynesian outlook that focuses on the fictional unit of ‘the entire economy’ and hence can go up simply by importing per capita world’s highest numbers of immigrants, all while making individuals poorer and poorer, has never been clearer. Throw in lingering and impoverishing inflation. Add in what are virtually the democratic world’s highest electricity prices and highest minimum wage laws. Mix all this with an out-of-control NDIS welfare scheme gone mad. Then remember our woeful labour relations system, more dreadful productivity statistics, and an education system that aims to indoctrinate while delivering results that five years ago had us behind Kazakhstan only for us today to aspire to those outcomes. And finish it all off with the remnant effects of the thuggish, authoritarian lockdowns that have produced citizens who think they are entitled to work from home, who think government can just dole out money for nothing, who have been immunised against the huge costs of ever-increasing government spending, and who (for many) simply do not trust the elites because, as the great Stanford University epidemiologist Professor Jay Bhattacharya has said repeatedly, ‘governments were the biggest source of misinformation and disinformation during the Covid-19 pandemic’. (Remember that for what comes below.)
It’s not a pretty picture. So you can see why some people might be tempted to focus on those pocketbook issues and ignore what is happening on the free speech front. It is imperative, however, that we all must resist that temptation, especially Team Dutton.

Exhibit A is the revamped Combatting Misinformation and Disinformation Bill that Team Albo delayed at the end of last year. Be clear. In terms of free speech this revamped Bill is even worse than the truly awful earlier version. In the guise of ‘keeping Australians safe’ (and tell me the Liberal MPs who showed basically zero concern for free speech all through the Morrison years will not succumb to this Orwellian propaganda) it will bring about a truly chilling effect on free speech. I have never seen anything like it in an advanced Anglosphere country. The Australian Communications and Media Authority (Acma) gets huge power over social media platforms. The pretence is that Acma won’t be able to take down content but it will be able to impose huge fines on them – so the Bill basically forces social media platforms to act as government censors or close down in Oz. The definition of ‘serious harm’ is now so wide it envelopes ‘harms’ to the Commonwealth, plausibly covers opinions the boffins just don’t agree with, and certainly includes opinions about public health and the economy. I’d say this Bill would cover basically all of the disagreements about government policy that swirled around during the pandemic – all those many claims that were sceptical of government’s thuggish rules; sceptical of the ‘there are no age differential effects of the virus’; inclined to believe there were far higher Covid vaccine adverse events than exist with established vaccines. You know, all the sceptical claims that were later proved correct – hence Professor Bhattacharya’s ‘governments were the biggest source of mis and disinformation’ assertion. Individuals can be fined too in certain circumstances. Oh, and the information request powers can (and will) be misused. Heck, imagine what Team Albo would have done in the Voice debate with these powers.

Put bluntly, this Bill would deliver a tool to be used against opinions that differ from the government line. Elon Musk has lambasted it as the sort of law a fascist government would enact. That’s not much of an exaggeration when the Bill covers information that is factually true but that some fact-checker (directly or indirectly) for Acma happens to label as misleading or deceptive because it lacks context. (Any bets how often that needed context demands alignment with the sceptical, libertarian or conservative outlooks rather than the usual establishment political left? The answer will rhyme with a fiddling Roman emperor.) And, no surprise here, the legacy media, academics and (implicitly) government itself will be exempted from the censoring strictures of this Bill.

Be clear. This Bill has to be stopped or repealed. This shows you what happens when the Libs cave in on earlier inroads on free speech as they did with the Section 18C hate speech laws. The inroads just keep on coming. I want Dutton to win. I think he can. But if he and the Libs don’t come out and unequivocally state: 1) that they will oppose this Bill and 2) that if it gets up anyway they will pledge to repeal it, then I won’t vote for them and neither should you. The ghastly and diabolical state of our economy is no warrant or justification for standing silently by as our free society is attacked in the platitudinous name of ‘keeping us safe’. We don’t need government to keep us safe. It’s far more likely to keep politicians safe but us unsafe. Just ask John Stuart Mill, Winston Churchill and anyone with a functioning brain.
By the way, there are other exhibits showing Team Albanese is the most anti-free speech government in memory. There’s a supposedly ‘watered down’ Hate Speech Bill that will make it easier to prosecute people while adding way more ‘protected’ categories. Think of being charged for misgendering someone, say. This seems to mimic UK-style ‘prison time for expressing your views online’. And remember, even if you’re acquitted, the process is the punishment. Also, there’s a mighty speech-enervating Privacy Bill. And all of the above will come with a hefty helping of selective prosecutions – look out conservatives!

So Messrs Dutton, Taylor, Ley, Paterson, Littleproud, Hastie, et al, we need a spirited attack on this Misinformation Bill and the other speech-gagging Bills. Try to revive those dormant Liberal party first principles. Or if principles mean nothing to you, how about this: fight for free speech or watch your excellent chance to win the next election go down the toilet. And rightfully so.

Pogria
Pogria
September 19, 2024 7:16 am
Reply to  Mak Siccar

Hastie will be on board to keep the bill. That turd has commandeered a position for himself to play Caesar to our troops who are being destroyed via the Afghanistan witch hunt. And he’s NOT on their side.

Crossie
Crossie
September 19, 2024 7:05 am

Rosie

 September 19, 2024 5:59 am

Might be paywalled

A Look at Hezbollah and What a Wider War Would Mean for Lebanon

Hezbollah could see perfectly what happened to Hamas in Gaza as a result of their 7th October attack on Israel. All they had to do is abstain from launching their own attack, doing nothing is what was called for to avoid the same fate. It can only be inferred that none of them have ever heard of the FOFO truism. With all their smart friends in the media and academia you would think somebody would have told them about.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
September 19, 2024 7:06 am

Bad news Bush.
Frost damage on the Ag news here as well.
Big parts of the Mallee took a flogging and that extends back into SA.
Our crops are delayed because of the very late start and most are at flag leaf emergence. Crops of canola that got away early will have been hit. Lentils are probably cooked in the north and down here are showing frost burn but not quite at the flowering stage. They need a big rain badly.
Looking at a neat used telehandler yesterday – you know what we’re thinking.

calli
calli
September 19, 2024 7:10 am

a government that pretended to be in the tradition of Bob Hawke but has governed more in the style of Gough Whitlam

There is a definite Last Days of Whitlam stench swirling around this government.

Pogria
Pogria
September 19, 2024 7:11 am
LB2
LB2
September 19, 2024 7:22 am

Join with me now, as we celebrate
International Talk Like a Pirate Day:

WlcEM8g
DavidH
DavidH
September 19, 2024 9:09 am
Reply to  LB2
Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 19, 2024 7:27 am

Talking to myself on the old fred …

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
September 19, 2024 8:48 am
Reply to  Sancho Panzer

Nobody was disagreeing with you.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 19, 2024 7:28 am

Knuckle Dragger at 6:59pm last evening.
The whole shit show of the cover up of Andrews running over the kid on the bike is something to behold.
From the bloke inserting himself into the investigation (after maybe being instructed from on high), through the no breath test (never, ever happens)*, no statements, allowing the Hunchback to drive a clearly unroadworthy car (also evidence) away from the scene to the subsequent “nothing to see here” statements which continue to this day.
The most staggering thing about this corruption is that it was so deep-seated back then, not when Hunchback had been Premier for ten years, but when he was opposition leader and wouldn’t have been identifiable by more than 50% of Plod.
And that it continues long after he has retired.

* I sincerely hope this goes to Court and Plod in the box is forced to answer as to how many accidents where someone was hospitalised was the driver (or all possible drivers if they are being cagey about who was driving) not breath tested or blood tested. The answer will be zero.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 19, 2024 8:31 am
Reply to  Sancho Panzer

No, the answer will be one, this one.

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
September 19, 2024 1:29 pm
Reply to  Sancho Panzer

Boambee John, it will be interesting to see how many WEREN”T taken, whose they were, and any administrative stuff ups occurred which led to lost/damaged/incorrectly labeled samples that couldn’t be used in Court..
All it takes is the wrong tube being used, a misspelled name, or a wrong birthdate recorded.
Or as mum used to say “There’s more ways of skinning a cat than by stuffing its arse with butter.”

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 19, 2024 7:37 am

The exploding cigar/pagers thing is a master-stroke, not for the physical damage caused (it may have killed a few low level operatives).
The psychological warfare implications are yuuuge. In between searching for their nuts, Hez-ball-less warriors will be constantly shitting themselves about every new electronic device they see within five metres. Which doesn’t bode well if you are running a modern terrorist organisation.
It will also be much easier for Mossad to pick them up on normal telephone intercepts now too.
They will be the ones speaking in a mezzo-soprano pitch.

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Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 19, 2024 7:46 am

Looks like the main game is about to start.

Israel’s War Cabinet Greenlights Offensive War Against Hezbollah, Sends Elite Brigade North (19 Sep)

According to breaking news wires:

“Israeli cabinet has given PM Netanyahu and Defence Minister Gallant the authorization to undertake military action against Hezbollah — even if it leads to an all-out war.”

So far the second day of explosions across Beirut and Lebanon have led to 20 killed and 450 wounded, but the casualty toll could be much higher.

I wonder what Iran and Syria will do?

alwaysright
alwaysright
September 19, 2024 7:46 am

Stiglich and Varvel made me laugh.

bons
bons
September 19, 2024 8:31 am
Reply to  alwaysright

Yes, the Varvel toon is devestating. Brilliant.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 19, 2024 7:48 am

A spokesperson for Ms Rowland said wanted a briefing “on the outcome of the ABC’s investigation into the circumstances around the editing of the audio.”

Apparently the ABC know nothing about it.
Except they do know that their star reporter and senior producers “have done nuffink wrong”.
But they are kind of screwed.
They either tampered with the tape themselves or they accepted tainted “evidence” without bothering to establish it’s bona fides.
I suspect it is the former and the ABC knows it.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 19, 2024 7:51 am

Why aren’t the Feds raiding the ABC and seizing tapes and documents?
There is credible evidence that ABC staff fabricated evidence which could have resulted in a murder conviction.

calli
calli
September 19, 2024 7:52 am

I wonder what Iran and Syria will do?

Definitely not check their pagers.

shatterzzz
September 19, 2024 7:52 am

1st they sent the pagers but I didn’t have one
Then they sent the walkie-talkies but I didn’t have one
Next came the solar panels and I had none
But when they sent the toasters ……. duuuuuuuuuh!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13864883/Lebanon-explosions-Hezbollah-communications-devices-detonate-country-pager-bomb.html

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
September 19, 2024 7:54 am

A spokesperson for Ms Rowland said [that she] wanted a briefing “on the outcome of the ABC’s investigation into the circumstances around the editing of the audio.”
Ooooh er, spokesperson, that certainly sounds… strongly worded. Their ABC’s internal obfuscations unit will be totally losing sleep.
Odds on they’ll get as much disclosure as the Andrewses-4WD-v-kid’s-bike case.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 19, 2024 7:54 am

calli
 September 19, 2024 7:52 am

I wonder what Iran and Syria will do?

Definitely not check their pagers.

Reports this morning that the central market in Tehran has sold out of three metre cane poles.
Or “log-on sticks” as they are now known in that part of the world.

alwaysright
alwaysright
September 19, 2024 7:55 am

How many ALP/Green senators have stopped using their mobile phones (just in case)?

calli
calli
September 19, 2024 8:00 am

Ahaha! We’re doin’ a whole lot of triggerin’ this morning!

Clearly have a towelhead lurker in the wings.

I think the vocal pitch you’re looking for is counter tenor.

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GreyRanga
GreyRanga
September 19, 2024 8:53 am
Reply to  calli

Post Castrato.

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Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 19, 2024 8:00 am

As I say, the psychological warfare angle of this is massive.
Imagine living your life not knowing if the next time you touched the volume button on your phone, or hit the return key on your laptop if you might be blinded or have your hands blown off.
“Why you are not returning my calls, Achmed?”
“Err … just managing my screen-time, Mohammed.”

alwaysright
alwaysright
September 19, 2024 8:01 am

Should I tell Ganggreens that it may not be safe to talk to Hezbollah and Hamas?
I’m torn.

Cassie of Sydney
September 19, 2024 8:01 am

I suspect it is the former and the ABC knows it.

That’s my hunch too.

There is never any accountability for the ABC.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 19, 2024 8:04 am

calli
 September 19, 2024 8:00 am

Ahaha! We’re doin’ a whole lot of triggerin’ this morning!

Clearly have a towlhead lurker in the wings.

Be careful bro!
I wonder if Mossad have linked the battery bombs to the downtick button.
One more and your nuts will be rolling down the footpath.

alwaysright
alwaysright
September 19, 2024 8:06 am
Reply to  Sancho Panzer

Are doorbells safe?
Asking for an enemy.

lotocoti
lotocoti
September 19, 2024 8:05 am

Why aren’t the Feds raiding the ABC and seizing tapes and documents?

The only document needed would be the Edit Decision List, but unless they have a policy of archiving EDLs, it probably would’ve been purged once the story went to air.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 19, 2024 8:35 am
Reply to  lotocoti

If Their ABC is subject to the archives Act, they will at the least by in (minor) trouble over that.

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
September 19, 2024 11:46 am
Reply to  lotocoti

Remember the notorious Lateline pederasty episode when an ABC internal inquiry found that :person or persons unknown’ had destroyed the tape of the program any other information that might identify Richard Neville’s leftist pervert mates. That was destruction of evidence of a serious crime. But of course there were no consequences for anyone.

Roger
Roger
September 19, 2024 8:06 am

Imo, Coory is far too kind in his assessment of Howard:

The final nail in the Liberal broad church?

Damian Coory, The Spectator (Aust ed.) 18 September, 2024

Weakness on the misinformation and disinformation bill could prove fatal ‘The father of the nation…’ That’s how former Deputy Prime Minster John Anderson described his former boss, John Howard, during a podcast interview last year. Mr Howard these days certainly carries the presence of the elder statesman. The stability of his time as Prime Minister reminds us of a different – and better – Australia. The days before Rudd-Gillard-Rudd and Tony Abbott-Turnbull-Scott Morrison made the nation’s top job a precarious short-term reign.

But Howard himself coined a term that could be the ultimate demise of the Liberal Party: ‘a broad church’.

‘We should never, as members of the Liberal Party of Australia, lose sight of the fact that we are the trustees of two great political traditions. We are, of course, the custodian of the classical liberal tradition within our society, Australian Liberals should revere the contribution of John Stuart Mill to political thought,’ Howard opined, during a 2005 speech.

‘We are also the custodians of the conservative tradition in our community. And if you look at the history of the Liberal Party it is at its best when it balances and blends those two traditions.’

I wonder if John Howard envisaged at the time how his broad church would look two decades later?

In marketing, there’s a different philosophical approach: if you try to be all things to all people, you’ll soon be nothing to nobody. The double negative being grammatically and logically incorrect, but (as marketers prefer) the alliteration is nice and you get the point.

Another core tenet of marketing is differentiation. People don’t make purchase decisions based on a rational analysis of all the pros and cons of a certain product versus a competitor. They make decisions on a few memorable points that instil a positive emotional response. They then post-rationalise their purchase later.

Most importantly, faced with a new product option, consumers tend not to change unless there is a compelling ‘reason’ to do so. The risk of change is usually seen as not worth taking unless there’s a potential for significant reward.

All of this, I believe, explains the failure of the Liberal-National coalition to win any of the last federal or mainland state elections it’s faced. And it points to the Queensland LNP facing a more difficult path to victory next month than should be necessary (and probable minority government) given the contempt in which a majority of Queenslanders hold the incumbent Labor crew.

Howard was a stable and solid Prime Minister worthy of fond reflection, but he betrayed the core values of the party at least twice. The introduction of one of the greatest administrative burdens ever to be placed upon small business in this land – the curse of GST and BAS – was a bureaucratic manoeuvre worthy of Mao. And the failure to introduce a pro-family policy of permitting a household to split its combined income for tax calculation purposes – something he himself had championed for many years – was a capitulation to the left’s long march to destroy the nuclear family as the basic unit of our community.

Is John Howard’s broad church sustainable? I don’t think so.

The Australia of 2024 is different. There is a sharper divide in political ideology and a geographic shift has occurred too.

This could work in the Coalition’s favour, but it will require burning down the broad church and a decisive move from a market-responding stance to a market-shifting approach.

Geography now maps political ideology fairly nicely. Forget the inner-city mentality. It’s a lost cause and worthy of ignoring. Focus 100 per cent on rural, regional, and suburban Australia. Grow the pie from the outside-in and you’ll not only win votes, but the culture too.

The rapid rise and fall of Scott Morrison should have been a clear lesson. The fearful trepidation surrounding every policy position as strategists nervously consulted the ‘market research’ at every turn, is a path to destruction.

At some point you have to lead. You have to sell an idea to the market.

To quote someone who had a tiny bit of success in his lifetime selling products nobody realised they needed, Apple founder Steve Jobs: ‘It’s really hard to design products by focus groups. A lot of times, people don’t know what they want until you show it to them.’

Every so often an opportunity comes along to really lead. To seize a modestly popular position and expand upon it.

Such an opportunity landed in the laps of the federal Coalition this past week and was met with the lacklustre response of a church that may indeed be too broad.

The Other Side (my weekly online video show alternative to the ABC’s left wing cultural bias) has a modest 27,000 followers on X. It is unusual for any of our tweets to receive more than a few dozen likes or re-tweets.

But every now and again something hits a public nerve and generates a huge unexpected response. And this one shocked me. A post on Friday about the government’s hideous Frankenstein reincarnation of the dud Misinformation Bill garnered 77,000 views, 1,300 retweets, and 4,100 likes in a matter of hours.

Even among a right-wing-leaning sample on an atypically politically engaged platform like X, that’s a response that should alert any politician to a golden opportunity.

What was even more telling was the nature of the response. I had rhetorically posed the question, ‘So… Where is Peter Dutton and [the Liberal Party] on all this?’ I never anticipated the veracity of the response. A significant proportion of the comments were more critical of the Opposition for not doing the job of opposing, than of the government.

‘The lack of a true opposition party in this country is completely astounding. The Australian people must reject this bill at all costs,’ wrote one.

‘This bill is now so toxic it will destroy every politician that doesn’t come out and totally condemn it… That any politician thinks it’s okay to gag the majority of the population is utterly contemptuous,’ one particularly articulate commenter noted. ‘That they also think it’s okay to exempt themselves and their mates is utterly despicable. The outrage at this is palpable. Any party which makes this a fundamental part of its platform will win the election.’

‘There are many of us who have addressed [Dutton] directly asking for a clear statement in response to this bill. It’s reminiscent of the eSafety Commissioner saga. He waits and then delivers a response. It’ll be interesting, given his support of Covid vaccines, Digital ID, eSafety Commissioner, and his 16-year-old threshold for SM accounts,’ laments another.

This is a skewed sample as the market research boffins would say. True. But the quantity and quality of this reaction to a tweet from a modest independent news commentary channel, is a red flag. It’s also a flashing green light of opportunity.

The ‘moderate’ Liberal Shadow Minster for Communication, David Coleman, is astoundingly – but sadly not surprisingly – busily looking this gift horse in the mouth.

Elon Musk accused the Australian government of being ‘fascists’ with these new laws that threaten to fine global companies 5 per cent of their global revenue for breaches of what ACMA deems to be a failure to properly police ‘misinformation’.

Coleman, with all the leadership and force of a wet blanket wrapped in a lettuce leaf, told Sky News Australia he would not use the same words Musk did.

Why not?

He said merely that ‘there are a lot of problems with this bill’ and that the government was being ‘contemptuous of free speech’. Shadow Cabinet needed to carefully review the details before commenting further, his advisor told me, as he turned down an interview spot on my show (the audience isn’t small).

How about a blanket in-principle condemnation of this ghastly piece of legislation that is not worthy of any kind of consideration, but only immediate relegation to the garbage bin of bad left-wing authoritarian ideas?

The conclusions more right-leaning classical liberal and libertarian Australians can draw from all of this are stark: either this opposition is full of politically strategic fools or they actually like and want this bill to proceed. Either is a troubling concern.

‘It’s possible to imagine the ex-copper Dutton is in furious agreement with the moderates on this one,’ a former senior party figure told me this week.

Oh dear. We may now have the worst ‘broad church’ of all in play. The authoritarian bureaucratic Liberal Party left locked in a joyous embrace with the party’s conservative authoritarians.

If someone doesn’t burst this bubble of groupthink soon, the quiet Australians who see these draconian laws for what they truly are – an abomination in a modern liberal democracy – will remain tragically unrepresented by an Opposition incapable of opposing even the most obviously bad laws.

And for the Coalition many more years of opposition or, at best, minority government, awaits.

Eyrie
Eyrie
September 19, 2024 8:28 am
Reply to  Roger

Howard – a nasty little deadshit with delusions of adequacy.

Roger
Roger
September 19, 2024 8:59 am
Reply to  Eyrie

A lying rodent’s lying rodent.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 19, 2024 9:50 am
Reply to  Roger

GST was an act of genuine political courage. Australia relies too heavily on personal income tax and anything that reduces it is too be applauded. Howard had plenty of faults but this isn’t one.

Cassie of Sydney
September 19, 2024 10:24 am
Reply to  H B Bear

Agree.

Roger
Roger
September 19, 2024 10:39 am
Reply to  H B Bear

GST replaced other indirect taxes, it did not reduce income tax in the medium to long term (just ask any worker on average wages today). In any case, the 1998 result was hardly a mandate for a GST. What it mostly did was fund the middle class tax-welfare churn.
Beware politicians bearing complicated tax “reforms”.
What we need is a reduction in government spending and size with commensurate income tax cuts. If we resist that path, we’ll eventually get a reduction in government spending with income tax rises, as the UK is facing.

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Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
September 19, 2024 8:07 am

I wonder if Mossad has exploding goats next on the list.
carnage!

alwaysright
alwaysright
September 19, 2024 8:10 am
Reply to  Farmer Gez

So many ways to trigger a goat!

Megan
Megan
September 19, 2024 9:35 am
Reply to  Farmer Gez

I approve of this methodology.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 19, 2024 9:51 am
Reply to  Farmer Gez

You could be assured they would work more effectively than CIA dolphins.

1735099
1735099
September 19, 2024 8:12 am

Martin McKenzie-Murray writes about teaching.
He nails it.

There are more than 300,000 full-time school teachers in Australia, although that’s far from enough. It’s a sufficiently large number, however, that reporting on their grievances and satisfactions can invite generalisation – that is, the promotion of an individual frustration to something dubiously representative. Naturally, there is great variability between schools. They occupy multiple socioeconomic pockets, enjoy different budgets, possess their own cultures, philosophies and challenges.

Last year, the OECD’s Programme for International Student Assessment (PISA) released its report on the “disciplinary climate” of classrooms across the developed world. Australia was among the most unfavourable, ranking 33rd among the 37 countries surveyed.
The report informed a Senate inquiry into classroom behaviour, which reported late last year. PISA’s unflattering findings have been complemented by other reports and surveys, including Monash University’s frequent survey of Australian teachers. In its 2022 survey of 5000 teachers, it found the volume of teachers who felt unsafe at work had increased from 19 per cent in 2019 to almost 25 per cent in just three years. Last week, the New South Wales Department of Education released data on school suspensions within the public system. It reported that last year almost 34,000 students were suspended – that’s 800 a week, and almost one in 12 high-school students.

“We’ve got a number of data points coming together, all showing a similar picture,” says Dr Greg Ashman, deputy principal of Ballarat Clarendon College in Victoria and a frequent commentator on education. “So to ignore that, I think, would be complacent. But I think the politicians, to be fair to them, they understand that there’s an issue, because they were talking about managing behaviour, and they’ve asked AERO (Australian Education Research Organisation) to develop these behaviour resources. It’s more the department bureaucracies and the academics and the people that train teachers who just don’t want to go near the issue.”

A primary school teacher from Brisbane I spoke to this week, who has been practising for 40 years, tells me she had to drive a teacher aide home recently after the aide was attacked by a young student. “She was injured, and she’d been injured many times before, but this was the straw that broke the camel’s back,” the teacher says. “In the last few years, going to the staffroom and seeing someone in tears – that’s much more common now. Fear is definitely something that I’ve noticed more in the last few years.”

Contained within the reports and statistics about student behaviour and teacher satisfaction are philosophical debates and cultural changes that are reported on much less than the numbers. It’s not just media indifference here: the use and appropriateness of suspensions or expulsions is a significant debate within the profession, but it’s inhibited by several things.
One is the effective gagging of public-school teachers by their state’s typically risk-averse education departments; another is the delicacy that’s introduced by the fact Indigenous and disabled students are disproportionately reflected in suspension numbers. To argue for a school to reserve the right to suspend or expel students can invite accusations of discrimination.

A major part of this has been the trend of closing down specialist-needs schools, which some have argued is discriminatory and ghettoising. It’s a contested idea, but generally speaking the argument for equity has triumphed over tailored, specialist education. Last year, in its final report, the Royal Commission into Violence, Abuse, Neglect and Exploitation of People with Disability recommended that segregated schooling be phased out by 2051. Notably, however, the six commissioners were themselves split on this: half of them wanted no deadline imposed on the transition.

For Greg Ashman, there’s friction between ideology and practicality. He believes more disabled students can be included in mainstream education, but the subsequent challenges and demands placed on teachers must be commensurately acknowledged and resourced. “I wonder whether we’ve kind of crossed the Rubicon a little bit, particularly the inclusion agenda,” he says. “I think we could include more kids in mainstream education, rather than specialist schools, and I think the way you would do that is by having lots of structure and lots of routines and lots of support in place to do that. But I still think there’s a role for specialist schools. But what we’re having at the moment is activists saying we need to close all the specialist schools down and that we need to get every kid into mainstream education – we just need to support them, and we just need more resources. But more resources aren’t coming, and that is also affecting people’s morale and their perceptions of the feasibility of actually doing the job.”

Here’s the rub, as described almost uniformly by teachers I’ve spoken to: the burden of the job has increased, without commensurate support. The administrative load, as a function of increased accountability, has often become overwhelming. Adding to this has been a shift in parental attitudes: parents are much more anxiously inquiring about their children’s education these days, and there’s a related sense of entitlement to a teacher’s time. Equally, parental trust in schools has decreased. I’ve lost count of the number of teachers who in my conversations have nominated parent–teacher nights as exhaustingly combative. “I spoke to a teacher last week who said she felt suicidal after parent–teacher interviews and that she needs to see her GP,” one teacher told me, “and she said, ‘I just can’t do this any longer.’?”

“Anecdotally, I think morale is not great,” Greg Ashman says. “Certainly, we have a teacher shortage at the moment, and that gives you some indication of what might be going on. And I don’t think that, although all teachers would agree that they need to be paid more, I don’t think that’s the core issue. I think making the job more manageable is the core issue.”
It can be spurious to offer one individual’s quote as being representative of 300,000 people, but this one, I think, probably is: “Ultimately, it does feel like both the best job in the world and one of the hardest.”

Cassie of Sydney
September 19, 2024 8:50 am
Reply to  1735099

The master of persevering. LOL.

shatterzzz
September 19, 2024 8:14 am

Very close …….!

1996
Indolent
Indolent
September 19, 2024 8:15 am

These are the people with seemingly endless power over our lives.

@catturd2

The party who says men can get pregnant wants to ban disinformation.

Indolent
Indolent
September 19, 2024 8:20 am
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 19, 2024 8:22 am

Expelled one day, up for student president the nextANU student Beatrice Tucker, who said earlier this year that Hamas ‘deserved unconditional support’, is now running to be student association president after the university overturned an expulsion.

From the Oz.

calli
calli
September 19, 2024 8:44 am

Beatrice needs to check her pager.

Megan
Megan
September 19, 2024 9:58 am
Reply to  calli

Snap, calli. I came here to say exactly that.

Indolent
Indolent
September 19, 2024 8:24 am
Bill P
Bill P
September 19, 2024 8:24 am

New slogan for tea towel wearers

Roger
Roger
September 19, 2024 8:27 am

For Greg Ashman, there’s friction between ideology and practicality. He believes more disabled students can be included in mainstream education, but the subsequent challenges and demands placed on teachers must be commensurately acknowledged and resourced. 

This sounds like a repeat of the de-institutionalisation of the mentally ill, but with broader consequences.

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1735099
1735099
September 19, 2024 8:41 am
Reply to  Roger

De-institutionalisation appealed to the accountants as much as it did to the advocates. People have forgotten the conditions in the 1950 style institutions. I haven’t. I remember cleaning maggots out of kids ears back in the early 70s.

Roger
Roger
September 19, 2024 8:44 am
Reply to  1735099

Nobody is defending poor conditions.

But Ken Kesey et. al. have a lot to answer for.

Living in a safe and clean environment with medical treatment is better than living in a tent on a sidewalk or worse.

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Boambee John
Boambee John
September 19, 2024 8:42 am
Reply to  Roger

Consequences both broader and deeper.

Philby
Philby
September 19, 2024 4:38 pm
Reply to  Roger

My daughter works as a secondary school teacher and she currently is working 12 hour days at the school and on dayswhen she actually gets to leave around 5:30 she still has 4 hours to do at home.
Loading her up with hard to teach students further would break her. She would be far better off financially and mentally being a lollipop lady on a CFMEU work site on twice her current salary.

Bill P
Bill P
September 19, 2024 8:28 am

That didn’t work. The new slogan is:

From Johnny B. Good in Aus comments.
30 minutes ago

From the liver to the knee!

Pogria
Pogria
September 19, 2024 8:57 am
Reply to  Bill P

Brilliant!
Thanks Bill.

Indolent
Indolent
September 19, 2024 8:31 am

@GuntherEagleman

Walz is just as bad as Harris.

Zero brain activity

He was just asked: “What do you tell people who wake up each morning wondering ‘How am I going to get by financially?”

Walz: “Kamala and I are middle class folks.”

Keep these people in front of a camera unscripted!

Rosie
Rosie
September 19, 2024 8:34 am

“but the subsequent challenges and demands placed on teachers must be commensurately acknowledged and resourced”
And what about the challenges and demands on non disabled students who just want to get on with it?
It seems to be an objective in itself for some parents to mainstream their disabled children rather that send them to a school that has a program especially designed for them.
Blow everyone else.

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1735099
1735099
September 19, 2024 8:38 am
Reply to  Rosie

Generally the parents of children with disabilities just want to get on with it also.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 19, 2024 10:09 am
Reply to  1735099

Suuuuure, that’s why they lobby for special treatment, but in a mainstream school at a cost to other kids.

1735099
1735099
September 19, 2024 10:43 am
Reply to  Boambee John

A good start towards solving many of these problems would be to make it illegal for any school using taxpayer funds to refuse enrolment of a student with disabilities if the parents can pay the fees.
The so-called “private” schools are all provided taxpayer funding. They are more correctly called subsidised schools.
The old chestnut “We don’t cater for these students” should be met with the question “Why not?”
They get taxpayer funding to do so.

Cassie of Sydney
September 19, 2024 12:32 pm
Reply to  1735099

More perseverance from Numerwank. It’s Numberwank engaging in one of his favourite anti-private school shticks.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 19, 2024 12:53 pm
Reply to  1735099

I recall a few years ago a court judgement forcing private schools to make their facilities wheelchair friendly. It seems that your proposal came into being decades ago. Do try to keep up.

Rosie
Rosie
September 19, 2024 8:36 am

“This sounds like a repeat of the de-institutionalisation of the mentally ill, but with broader consequences.”
These people are nuts.
As though money can fix everything.

1735099
1735099
September 19, 2024 8:44 am
Reply to  Rosie

De-institutionalisation is cheaper. That’s why it was pushed by charities and governments.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 19, 2024 10:11 am
Reply to  1735099

But at a separate cost to them and society. How many of the homeless would have formerly been in an institution, now on the streets?

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
September 19, 2024 1:51 pm
Reply to  Rosie

Well, it can fix me being a notmillonaire – if I get enough of it.

Indolent
Indolent
September 19, 2024 8:43 am

This is, in effect, the only way to defeat this insanity. Total non-compliance.
ARREST ME: I Just Broke Election Law in California With this AI Image

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
September 19, 2024 5:35 pm
Reply to  Indolent

He’s going to get Memed out of existence, and just opened the floodgates.

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
September 19, 2024 5:41 pm
Reply to  Indolent

One of the hoi polloi. He probably still has the videos he took of himself raping the drugged out women.
Two tier social justice.
That type of personality can’t be fixed, except with a bullet.

Rosie
Rosie
September 19, 2024 8:46 am

Those advocating mainstreaming never seem to consider the impact on other children.
Not a word about them, it’s a bit of a tell.

Cassie of Sydney
September 19, 2024 8:51 am
Reply to  Rosie

Exactly.

Cassie of Sydney
September 19, 2024 8:46 am

Interesting how Numbers has popped up here. As I wrote yesterday, about two and a bit years ago I decided to have a peep as his sad and unvisited blog. On it he describes this site, Dover’s site, as a haven for toxic neo-Nazi and far-right opinion, and I’m pretty sure I recall him calling for this site to be shut down.

Genuine question, if you believe that why would you want to be here?

I guess it’s odd, weird and strange. Loneliness and attention deficit syndrome often drives people to do odd, weird and strange things, like comment on a blog he passionately believes is full of neo-Nazi and far-right opinion.

Pathetic or sad? I suspect both are applicable.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 19, 2024 10:13 am

Both.

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
September 19, 2024 5:44 pm

Cassie, he’s here to collect ‘evidence’ of the site being what he claims it to be. He will present that evidence to the relevant authorities at the opportune moment.
It’s why him and Monty should be banned and all access refused.

MatrixTransform
September 19, 2024 6:40 pm

numbers is mental like mUnty

Cassie of Sydney
September 19, 2024 8:48 am

Those advocating mainstreaming never seem to consider the impact on other children.

Correct, and last week a school here in Sydney’s east was locked down because of the behaviour of a child who should have been in a special institution.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 19, 2024 8:49 am

Calls for age restrictions on free syringes as Kimberley kids as young as eight request needle packsBethany HiattThe West Australian
Thu, 19 September 2024 2:00AM

Kids as young as eight are being handed packs of free needles provided for intravenous drug users in the Kimberley, prompting calls for age restrictions to the scheme.
Hospitals and health services across WA provide “fit packs” containing five sterile needles and syringes to drug users to help prevent transmission of blood-borne diseases such as hepatitis and HIV.
Questions asked in Parliament by Broome-based MLC Neil Thomson have revealed Kimberley health providers’ concerns that children as young as eight are being provided fit packs through the Health Department’s free needle program.
Mr Thomson said health professionals feared the children were using those needles for drug use for themselves or other children or adults.
In response, Labor MP Pierre Yang said “clinical judgment” was used when distributing fit packs, “as well as providing information and referrals to drug services where appropriate”.
It comes after The West last week revealed an eight-year-old girl was pricked by a needle found in the playground of a Broome primary school, amid residents’ complaints of an alarming increase in the number of needles being discarded across the tourist town.
Mr Thomson said it was shocking there was no limitation on children accessing needles.

Rosie
Rosie
September 19, 2024 8:49 am

“Saudi media reports that 19 Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) operatives from Iran were killed in Syria during yesterday’s pager attack and another 150 were wounded”

https://x.com/visegrad24/status/1836387661159788752?t=4q75U-_vDIHat_UMAJ-WQA&s=19

bons
bons
September 19, 2024 9:12 am
Reply to  Rosie

If this is true? the story simply gets better and better.

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
September 19, 2024 5:48 pm
Reply to  Rosie

The Greek Wooden Horse 2.1.

Rabz
September 19, 2024 8:50 am

If only half of the 2022 Liberal defectors were long-term political emigrants to the left, as opposed to one-off malcontents who could come back, given that most of the teal seats are held with margins of under 5 per cent, there’s every reason to think that some will indeed return, at least with the right ­candidates. These are unlikely to be hardline conservatives or factional time-servers, but could be the kind of centre-right high achiever who used to abound in Liberal preselections before the party became so factionalised.

Cruddles has misdiagnosed the problem, so her solution is wrong, wrong, wrong (again).

Yet more church of broads collectivist cretins. Yeah, no. In all teal skank held seats the gliberals should run hardline conservatives pretending to be church of broads greenfilth adjacent cretins – as an act of revenge (and common sense, but let’s not get ahead of ourselves here), if nothing else.

But they won’t because they’re spineless numbskulls terrified of their own shadows.

Last edited 5 months ago by Rabz
Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
September 19, 2024 9:44 am
Reply to  Rabz

I take Cedlin at time with a pinch of salt given other half is Lognaine. This is one of those times.

It doesn’t have a broad church, it has a overly powerful left wing faction. The libs when I was young proudly used to assert they didn’t have factions, that was a ALP failing.

The whole party need purging of this “broad church.” They would fit better with the teals anyway.

Rosie
Rosie
September 19, 2024 8:50 am
Indolent
Indolent
September 19, 2024 8:51 am

We’ll just walk into your home and check your behaviour.

@TuckerCarlson

This is openly totalitarian. If we don’t resist this, we’re done: “Just because you legally possess a gun in the sanctity of your locked home doesn’t mean that we’re not going to walk into that home and check to see if you’re being responsible.”

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 19, 2024 10:15 am
Reply to  Indolent

Doesn’t this already happen here?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 19, 2024 8:52 am

As though money can fix everything.

It can fix a lot of things but somehow it only goes to the favoured causes of the Left.

Indigenous boarding schools request funding lifeline (Paywallian)

Remote boarding schools say Indigenous student enrolments need sustained government funding if educators are to stay afloat.

I doubt indigenous boarding schools, which are a way to get the kids out of the squalor and dysfunction, are one of those favoured causes.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 19, 2024 9:26 am

A scheme by the then Liberal Government of Colin Barnett, of indigenous boarding schools, was roundly condemned as leading to another “Stolen Generation.”

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
September 19, 2024 6:34 pm

Even the Dodson brothers acknowledge how much they owe to Monivae College where they boarded as scholarship boys with the Missionaries of the Sacred Heart.

Indolent
Indolent
September 19, 2024 8:53 am
Rosie
Rosie
September 19, 2024 8:54 am

Not sure there is that much love for Hezbollah in Lebanon either
https://x.com/hahussain/status/1836372338956472653?t=Ks4JaW2wBkuirE_dWxCNNw&s=19

Rosie
Rosie
September 19, 2024 8:57 am

“Like many others, I’ve become convinced that there’s no way this could have happened without substantial aid from the Maronite Christians in Lebanon, who are sick to death of being treated like dhimmis by their Muslim conquerors, who are armed and funded by Iran”.

https://x.com/NiohBerg/status/1836443015289704594?t=5ZShC-rY2XGHDi-Arv-5Sw&s=19

Roger
Roger
September 19, 2024 9:06 am
Reply to  Rosie

More likely Mossad has assets deep inside the Hizzbies & Iran, turned by one means or another.

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
September 19, 2024 5:54 pm
Reply to  Rosie

I’m beginning to doubt the PETN batteries. This is now too widespread even for Mossad.
I’m going with a Stuxnet virus.

1735099
1735099
September 19, 2024 9:40 am
Reply to  Indolent

How about checking the most recent research before you go off half-cocked?

From – Real-World Safety of COVID-19 mRNA Vaccines: A Systematic Review and Meta-Analysisby Wanqian Xu 1,2,Weigang Ren 2,3,Tongxin Wu 2,3,Qin Wang 2,3,Mi Luo 1,2,Yongxiang Yi 1,2,3 andJunwei Li 2,3,*

Conclusions – In conclusion, the AE*s reported after COVID-19 mRNA vaccines were transient, self-limiting, and mild to moderate, according to real-world observational studies. These vaccines were still safe for use in immunocompromised populations. It seems that the high pooled incidence of any AEs and any systemic AEs was associated with the second dose, and the third dose was associated with a high incidence of any local AEs. Younger adults, women, and people with prior SARS-CoV-2 infection were more likely to experience negative AEs. The results provided clear data-driven evidence to support the safety of COVID-19 mRNA vaccines for the public and policymakers. However, more information about rare and serious AEs should be evaluated throughout a long period of surveillance.

Adverse Events – An adverse event following immunisation (AEFI) is any negative reaction that follows vaccination. It does not necessarily have a causal relationship with the vaccine. The adverse event may be any: unfavourable or unintended sign.

RTWT – https://www.mdpi.com/2076-393X/11/6/1118

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
September 19, 2024 9:00 am

Indolent
 September 18, 2024 10:22 pm @newstart_2024

Dr. William Makis: “We are seeing teenage girls or girls in their 20s presenting with stage 4 breast cancer and they have no family history and they’ve been COVID vaccinated because they needed to take the shots to continue attending university or college…We have never seen so many young women presenting with stage 4 cancers and the only thing that they have in common is there’s no genetic anomalies, there’s no family history, they all were forced to take the COVID-19 vaccines or they took them willingly, but they’ve had the shots. That is the only commonality.

Yet he gives no evidence, no links to evidence, and no further backup.
Indolent, unless he’s willing to do this, I’m going to use my sceptic vote wisely.

Indolent
Indolent
September 19, 2024 9:04 am
Rabz
September 19, 2024 9:11 am

So… Where is Dr Mutton and [the gliberal party] on all this?

Gee, where do you think Dr Mutton and the gliberals might be on this Frankenstein’s monster of a legislative abortion?

They agree with it, of course.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 19, 2024 9:14 am

Labor stands shoulder to shoulder with the terrorists.

‘Great disappointment’ as Australia abstains on controversial UN Israel vote (Paywallian)

Penny Wong says Australia wanted to back the motion — drafted by the Palestinian Authority — demanding Israel’s withdrawal from Gaza and the West Bank, and sanctions against the Jewish state, but failed to have amendments inserted.

Fortunately Israel will just ignore it. The UN is irrelevant these days.

calli
calli
September 19, 2024 10:02 am

The Beloved just shot off a scathing email to dear Merrill, our local fed member.

He wasn’t rude, just truthful.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
September 19, 2024 10:03 am

irrelevant and an embarrassment

Roger
Roger
September 19, 2024 9:22 am

The UN is irrelevant these days.

Speaking of which…

‘Civilian objects should not be weaponised’: UN chief on Lebanon blasts

United Nations Secretary-General Antonio Guterres says civilian objects should not be weaponised after a deadly wave of explosions across Lebanon targeted communication devices used by Hezbollah.

“I think it’s very important that there is an effective control of civilian objects, not to weaponise civilian objects. That should be a rule that … governments should be able to implement,” Guterres said on Wednesday at a briefing at UN headquarters in New York.

Aljazeera

But not a word about Hezbollah’s missiles and rockets fired daily into Israel.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 19, 2024 11:11 am
Reply to  Roger

Or tunnels and weapons under “civilian” schools and hospitals in Gaza

Tom
Tom
September 19, 2024 1:39 pm
Reply to  Roger

Antonio Guterres, like many at the UN, is an evil arsehole.

calli
calli
September 19, 2024 9:24 am

Hezbies looking for replacement comms devices.

Chuck-Jones-9-Golden-Rules-for-the-Coyote-and-the-Road-Runner
Barking Toad
Barking Toad
September 19, 2024 10:04 am
Reply to  calli

hahaha

cohenite
September 19, 2024 9:38 am

I think this exploding pager business blowing off the balls of the muzzie bastards is outstanding. Pain for the rest of this life and no rooting of the 72 virgins in the next. Sooner or later though they’re going to have to nuke iran. Which if Trump survives they should do as soon as he walks down the elevator. However I’m becoming more convinced garland and the rest of the swamp is not going to let him, alive or dead, become POTUS. These attempts are going to get more organised. So far they’ve been typical half arsed leftie stuff ups. I reckon some SS impostors turning up is next on the cards.

On a lighter note the best of Tom’s toons:

378903_image.jpg (720×493) (creators.com)

Arky
September 19, 2024 9:40 am

Hezbollah spokesman Ibumhim Innabakyard yesterday released the following statement via smoke signals: “We condemn the Zionist atrocity committed…Achmed, put more green branches on…no, not there…look out…the ammunition…ahhhhhh my keffiyeh…you stupid fool. Ahhhhhh, ahhhhhhh, ahhhh I’m on fire”.

damon
damon
September 19, 2024 9:40 am

Walz: “Kamala and I are middle class folks.”

Yeah, sure. The way Joe’s just a middle class millionaire.

alwaysright
alwaysright
September 19, 2024 9:45 am

HeezHadBollocks

Diogenes
Diogenes
September 19, 2024 9:48 am

United Nations Secretary-General Antonio Guterres says civilian objects should not be weaponised a

Absolutely! No more water pipes turned into rockets. Over to you Hamas & Hezbollah…

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
September 19, 2024 9:49 am

One interesting facet to the entire Israel/Muslim war is the US election.
Israel will have worked out that if the Democrats win, they are stuffed.
So, what I’m waiting for is the Mossad operation that will expose multiple Democrat illegalities and moral failings, as well as the voting scams.
Israel knows it it is an existential brawl here – and I mean existential, not the usual existential crisis that comes from gerbil worming or coal power – I mean existential in terms of Israels existence being on the table.
I hope Mossad can pull another rabbit out of the hat.
I’m hoping for a nasty little October Surprise for the Democrats.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
September 19, 2024 9:58 am
Reply to  Winston Smith

Exploding 3am delivery trucks would be a start.

calli
calli
September 19, 2024 10:03 am
Reply to  GreyRanga

What happens if a paper vote is run through the scanner twice? 😀

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
September 19, 2024 10:31 am
Reply to  calli

That is up to to the Republican observers who should not leave until the democrats leave and lock the premises. A guard should also be present, something they never did last time.

calli
calli
September 19, 2024 10:53 am
Reply to  GreyRanga

I was envisioning some ACME style scanners. More than once and the operator gets a little zing.

But conscientious scrutineers would work too. Not as exciting though. 😀

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 19, 2024 11:14 am
Reply to  calli

It’s counted twice.

calli
calli
September 19, 2024 9:59 am

‘Civilian objects should not be weaponised’: UN chief on Lebanon blasts

Idiot.

They really are low intellect slobs.

Roger
Roger
September 19, 2024 10:09 am
Reply to  calli

They really are low intellect slobs.

Oi, I’ll have you know he’s a former president of the Socialist International!

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 19, 2024 11:14 am
Reply to  Roger

And so ?

Vicki
Vicki
September 19, 2024 11:11 am
Reply to  calli

I cannot see one legitimate reason for western nations to continue to support this openly Marxist and corrupt entity.

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 19, 2024 10:07 am

‘Civilian objects should not be weaponised’

Should we remove the Bollards of Peace?

Anders
Anders
September 19, 2024 10:08 am

“I can’t put my finger on it, I think there’s something suspicious about our new carrier pigeons, Achmed”

Pigeon
Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 19, 2024 10:10 am

Good stuff…

The rise of the Keffiyeh Karen (18 Sep)

In her ready and confident fury, her rudeness, her iron-fisted appetite for confrontation over infractions of what she deems political and moral gospel, the Keffiyeh Karen is related to a broader epidemic of the Gen Z Mean Girl. These Mean Girls have graduated from running the schoolyard to terrorizing the workplace. If there is one type to be afraid of in modern offices, it isn’t the lech or the shouty, hungover male middle manager. It’s the twenty-three-year-old gluten-free vegan graduate, wet behind the ears. We know what these misanthropic misses are capable of — we’ve seen the Phoebes and Annas of Just Stop Oil chuck soup on Van Gogh. …

But there is something particularly humorless and stern about the self-styled progressive Lefty Lass — nothing is ever proper enough for her, or miserable enough, or righteous enough. Even when racism and transphobia have been stamped out in her sight, and microaggressions and misgendering slips of the tongue properly punished, she’ll mock you for forgetting for even a moment that the world is ending because of your climate profligacy. The revolution must come. Net zero needs to be achieved yesterday.

Pretty much nails Greens, Labor harridans and Teals I have to say.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 19, 2024 10:43 am

If there is one type to be afraid of in modern offices, it isn’t the lech or the shouty, hungover male middle manager.

Oi. That is vaguely offensive.

Cassie of Sydney
September 19, 2024 10:20 am

United Nations Secretary-General Antonio Guterres says civilian objects should not be weaponised 

Weird, isn’t it? He’s rushed to condemn Israel hours after a masterful takedown of terrorists that largely avoided civilian deaths but this same UN Guttersnipe wasn’t so quick to condemn the weapons of rape, decapitation, murder and kidnapping against civilians on October 7.

Ohhh, that’s right, October 7 was against Jews. They’re legitimate targets.

By the way, Mean Girl Pong and this utterly disgraceful and obscene federal government are ‘abstaining’ from the UN vote to basically delegitimise Israel once and for all. The US has voted against it.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 19, 2024 10:45 am

Nothing about not using them to terrorise civilian populations?

Last edited 5 months ago by H B Bear
thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 19, 2024 10:22 am

It was jolly watching the Yids revert to some old Testicklement punishment on the mad mullahs minions.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 19, 2024 10:45 am

Jawbone of an ass has moved on.

Rabz
September 19, 2024 10:43 am

pong says Australia wanted to back the motion — drafted by the PLO — demanding Israel’s withdrawal from gaza and the West Bank, and sanctions against the Jewish state

No, you vile incompetent arrogant lesbian slag, Australia did not “want to back the motion” drafted by the PLO to destroy Israel.

Your stinking illegitimate roadkill circus of a so called government wanted to back it, for the most base expedient reasons possible.

To maintain your illegitimate grasp on power and suck some moozley electoral microcock, which is now a figurative pager blowing up in your stupid ugly faces, you foul lying harridan.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 19, 2024 10:48 am
Reply to  Rabz

Too long on the red leather.

Vicki
Vicki
September 19, 2024 11:09 am
Reply to  Rabz

I gather you don’t like her, Rabz?!!!!

Go for it!!!

amortiser
amortiser
September 19, 2024 11:12 am
Reply to  Rabz

Cone on, Rabz. You can do better than that.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 19, 2024 11:19 am
Reply to  Rabz

Don’t hold back Rabz, tell us what you really think.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
September 19, 2024 11:22 am
Reply to  Boambee John

BJ you got there first. What an apt description for one of the most loathsome in Australia.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 19, 2024 10:47 am

How about a blanket in-principle condemnation of this ghastly piece of legislation that is not worthy of any kind of consideration, but only immediate relegation to the garbage bin of bad left-wing authoritarian ideas?

The conclusions more right-leaning classical liberal and libertarian Australians can draw from all of this are stark: either this opposition is full of politically strategic fools or they actually like and want this bill to proceed. Either is a troubling concern.

Or, perhaps even more of a troubling concern, nothing as deliberate:

Mr Speaker, Those Opposite want, Mr Speaker, want, our children to be exposed to pornography and predators…

We are way too frequently governed by the lowest and most debased forms of parliamentary retail politics. The zinger and 30 second grab.

Exhibit A: the Noalition – an absolute cracker, still on high rotation by the toxic little PM Impersonator…

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
September 19, 2024 6:38 pm
Reply to  Dr Faustus

The left has a history of weaponsing kiddie-fiddling. First against the family and fatherhood, then against the churches and synagogues (but not of course the mosques), next against free speech.

Rosie
Rosie
September 19, 2024 10:51 am

“civilian objects should not be weaponised”
He means like schools, kindergartens, hospitals, residential housing and clothing.
Right?

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
September 19, 2024 10:53 am

Rabz on Penny Ping Pong @10:43am….

 you vile incompetent arrogant lesbian slag

Absolutely beautiful

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 19, 2024 11:10 am
Reply to  Barking Toad

Some people are left in the Senate because they are too useful to have them waste time on HoR grass roots politics. Others are left in the Senate because they could never win a HoR seat when exposed to real voters. KK found out which category she was in. I have no doubts about kd wrong either.

Megan
Megan
September 19, 2024 10:55 am

Leaving the endless pager memes momentarily, this marketing video by the Royal Armoury in Leeds is a modern classic.

Megan
Megan
September 19, 2024 10:57 am
Reply to  Megan

I followed dover’s instructions to the letter and still did not get it to link correctly.
Never mind….try this:

https://x.com/rebekkarnold/status/1835663229013405909

bons
bons
September 19, 2024 11:10 am
Reply to  Megan

Thanks. Brilliant.

Rosie
Rosie
September 19, 2024 10:57 am

Hezbollahs responsible for procurement were clearly too focused on bribes, kickbacks etc to consider that their supply chain from outside Lebanon was very simple to compromise.
Now it’s boohoo from the usual suspects because the terrorists got a nasty surprise with minimum loss of civilian life and more importantly no loss of Israeli life.
Now to knock out their rocket sites.

Tom
Tom
September 19, 2024 10:57 am

Linky no workee, Megam at 10.55am.

Megan
Megan
September 19, 2024 12:50 pm
Reply to  Tom

The working link is in the nested comments because it wouldnt let me edit the original, Tom. I should have just posted it in the main thread, the nested comments are too often overlooked.

Cassie of Sydney
September 19, 2024 10:58 am

Rabz
 September 19, 2024 10:43 am

Rabz wins the comment of the day.

Vicki
Vicki
September 19, 2024 11:06 am

The Oz today has some great recounting of the recent achievements of Israel against their ME enemies. I was actually surprised, and – of course – pleased that the paper was so upfront in their reaction.

Mind you, I was amazed at the at their HUGE front page heading – “NEUTERING A TERRORIST ARMY”.

Maybe the staff had read the naughty comments on Catallaxy yesterday about exploding the genitals of the Hazzies!

Vicki
Vicki
September 19, 2024 11:23 am
Reply to  Vicki

Sorry about the typo.

cohenite
September 19, 2024 11:10 am

I hope Mossad can pull another rabbit out of the hat.
I’m hoping for a nasty little October Surprise for the Democrats.

How about this:

BREAKING: Iran Sent Hacked Trump Documents to Biden, Harris. (thenationalpulse.com)

It doesn’t matter though because the msm sluts won’t report it.

Last edited 5 months ago by cohenite
Boambee John
Boambee John
September 19, 2024 11:54 am
Reply to  cohenite

Hmmmm.

Wasn’t Wussia, Wussia, Wussia based on part on an allegation that Russia hacked DemonRat documents and sent them to the Trump campaign? Will IranGate be the next big thing?

Note for slow leftards, the question was sarcastic.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 19, 2024 2:55 pm
Reply to  cohenite

Russian hoax with hummus on the side.

Vicki
Vicki
September 19, 2024 11:21 am

One of the reasons why it is so heartening to watch the fight back of Israel against the enemies that surround them is because, it seems to me, the West has seemingly lost its collective will to fight back against those who are destroying it from within.

I know that it is indeed existential battle for them, but so it is for us in so many ways. Their courage, and genius, is a thing to behold.

Morsie
Morsie
September 19, 2024 11:23 am

The articles about whether Hezbollah will retaliate are disgusting.Its like the rocket barrage doesnt exist and Hezbollah is just sitting around peacefully.

Cassie of Sydney
September 19, 2024 11:24 am

I agree with a lot Coory says but not what he says about the introduction of the GST.

The GST was a major policy accomplishment of the Howard government alongside Howard’s tough border policies. However, after the introduction of the GST the Howard government (and all subsequent Coalition governments) ran a mile from major economic reform, and this country has suffered because of that policy cowardice.

cohenite
September 19, 2024 11:33 am

Garland is a vile, little creep; here he is being absolutely eviscerated by Senator Josh Hawley:

Garland Literally Trembles During Sen. Hawley’s Explosive Rant…DOJ’s Disgusting Actions EXPOSED!! (youtube.com)

Hawley is one the (few) reasons I still have hope for the US.

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
September 19, 2024 6:43 pm
Reply to  cohenite

Another nasty little creep – the world is filling up with them as they are given the opportunity to show their ugly faces. Just like the Communists and Nazis did.
This is not ending well.

will
will
September 19, 2024 11:34 am

After the introduction of the GST the Howard government (and all subsequent Coalition governments) ran a mile from major economic reform, 

No actually the LNP lost the 2007 election on the back of “Work Choices” in an attempt to deregulate the labour market. The market has since been reregulated back to the 1950’s.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 19, 2024 2:58 pm
Reply to  will

Work Choices probably fell into the category of policy overreach. Howard government had made governing look easy – something KRuddy and R-G-R went on to disprove.

Vicki
Vicki
September 19, 2024 11:35 am

Gateway Pundit is reporting that solar panels in Beirut are exploding.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/09/developing-home-solar-systems-explode-beirut-lebanon-following/

This is probably hoax stuff. On the other hand, we are still dealing with false energy bills (awe reckon) associated with our “smart meter” which “sends” data back yo the energy provider.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 19, 2024 11:49 am
Reply to  Vicki

Can they do wind turbines too?
Asking for feathery friends.

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
September 19, 2024 6:45 pm
Reply to  Vicki

Are you still having problems with the metering and billing?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 19, 2024 11:36 am

9.41am

‘Not terribly clever’: Frustrated PM lashes out at interviewerBy Olivia IrelandFrustration ran high in a tense 20-minute interview between Prime Minister Anthony Albanese and ABC RN Breakfast presenter Patricia Karvelas, in which a grumpy PM accused the host of asking “not terribly clever questions”.
The Greens calling on the government to consider capital gains tax concessions and negative gearing in its housing package was the line of questioning that spurred Albanese and Karvelas to engage in a tense back-and-forth.
Karvelas: “Are you saying negative gearing and capital gains tax concessions are absolutely off the table for you?”
Albanese: “Well they’re tax policies.”
Karvelas: “Are those tax policies completely off the table for you?”
Albanese: “Well Patricia, I don’t answer … those sort of questions.”
Karvelas: “You mean good ones? That’s a good question! Are you going to say no to those things or not?”
Albanese: “They’re not, they’re things that journalists [ask] – the next question is, when will the election be?”
Karvelas: “That’s not my next question.”
Albanese: “Well they’re not terribly clever questions. You ask all of that. We’re interested in the tax policy that we are implementing, not the ones that we’re not.”
As Karvelas went to her next question on whether Albanese would call a double dissolution election, the prime minister interrupted: “See you have got to the next question!” he called out.
Karvelas replied that she was “always going to get to [her] next question”.
“I do delight in our conversations. A double dissolution election would mean Senate quotas are halved, wouldn’t that lead to an even more difficult-to-manage upper house, prime minister?”
Albanese responds with curt frustration: “Journalists raise it with me, Patricia. What I’m interested in is governing … you could ask these hypotheticals, as I said to you, about the last hypothetical that you just [asked].”
Karvelas interrupts, “Couldn’t you just say, ‘Nah, I’m not interested’ though?”
“We’re governing Patricia, we’re governing. The election will be held on a day when I get in the little car with the flag on the front and visit Yarralumla,” Albanese said.
Later in the interview, asked about the US Federal Reserve’s decision to cut interest rates, Albanese again snapped back at the line of questioning.
Karvelas: “The RBA is taking a long time and people are in a protracted period of pain over its decision to hold interest rates.”
Albanese: “That’s correct, and that’s a global phenomenon, Patricia.”
Karvelas: “Well in the US they’re cutting rates, prime minister.”
Albanese: “Because the economy is so slow, that’s why they’re cutting rates, Patricia.”
Karvelas: “Their economic growth is higher than ours.”
Albanese: “Inflation peaked higher in the United States and interest rates peaked higher in the United States than they did here.”

Jock
Jock
September 19, 2024 12:56 pm

Were Karvelas a real journalist she would know that up to last month employment was robust in the US. Then suddenly for absolutely no reason , it wasnt 800k jobs just dematerialized. Funny that. And now the Fed is puking on interest rates. The entire statistical system in the states has now been utterly corrupted.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
September 19, 2024 1:43 pm

When you’ve lost the ALPBC.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 19, 2024 3:05 pm

Karvelas: “You mean good ones? That’s a good question! Are you going to say no to those things or not?”

Karvelas wouldn’t know good j’ism if she tripped over it. A low quality gotcha that should be saved for shonky washing machine repair men on A Current Affair. Poor Albo must be wondering if it’s time to bus in some friendly mummy bloggers to a western Sydney RSL.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
September 19, 2024 11:37 am

The exploding pagers etc. orchestrated by Mossad (not admitted of course) has all the hallmarks of the research, intelligence and subterfuge of British Intelligence of the 1943 “Operation Mincemeat”.

Mentioned by TE yesterday, I think, as the 1956 Movie “The Man Who Never Was”.

Fooled Hitler about the invasion of Sicily.

Mossad, I dips me lid.

132andBush
132andBush
September 19, 2024 11:41 am

Looking at a neat used telehandler yesterday – you know what we’re thinking.

Unfortunately yes.
From what I’m hearing there’s a lot of it about to happen. Next week will tell the tale.
Lentils got hammered here as well but severe damage appears to be the luck of the draw.
Bug spraying them next week.

Cassie of Sydney
September 19, 2024 11:48 am

No actually the LNP lost the 2007 election on the back of “Work Choices” in an attempt to deregulate the labour market. The market has since been reregulated back to the 1950’s.

You are quite correct, I had forgotten Work Choices. But I now remember, and I remember how after Howard’s loss in 2007 the Liberals were very quick to distance themselves from Work Choices, saying that Work Choices was a policy mistake and so they cremated the policy and the ashes were buried in a policy graveyard, where they remain. In other words, since then the Liberals have run a mile from any significant economic and industrial relations reform, with the result that economic growth in this country has stagnated.

I don’t foresee any Dutton government having the balls to undertake any significant economic reform.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
September 19, 2024 11:56 am

I’d add will as the party is dominated by it’s left faction now. Was less of a problem under Howard when blokes like Georgiou were mostly ignored.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 19, 2024 3:12 pm
Reply to  Rockdoctor

Indeed. The resurrection of Waffleworth (a key Howard and Sinodinos failing) was the beginning of the end. Chrissy Pyne too.

Indolent
Indolent
September 19, 2024 11:56 am

I was just sitting in a coffee shop in the middle of Double Bay in Sydney and laughed out loud at the Spooner toon. A woman at the next table asked what was so funny and I showed it to her. She said it wasn’t really funny but sad. I said Isrsel was defending itself the best way it can. She said so you believe Israel is in the right. I said of course, who attacked whom on October 7. She said that was a false flag! End of conversation. What can you say to someone like that.

Diogenes
Diogenes
September 19, 2024 11:59 am
Reply to  Indolent

What can you say to someone like that.

You are an idiot! ( Not you Indolent, her)

Roger
Roger
September 19, 2024 12:13 pm
Reply to  Indolent

I’ll defer to Cassie on that question.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 19, 2024 12:15 pm
Reply to  Indolent

Would standing up, clapping your heels together, doing the salute and shouting Sieg Heil Mein Fuhrer be a little too much?

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 19, 2024 12:46 pm

Sounds about right

Lysander
Lysander
September 19, 2024 12:26 pm
Reply to  Indolent

How about:

I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a person who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom that Israel and Mossad provide, and then questions the manner in which they provide it. I would rather you just said thank you and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a weapon and stand a post.

(Apologies to A Few Good Men)

calli
calli
September 19, 2024 12:26 pm
Reply to  Indolent

When did you donate your brain to science?

Megan
Megan
September 19, 2024 1:17 pm
Reply to  Indolent

I would have asked her how she knows that is true. What’s her evidence for that?

But I totally understand not bothering to engage with a brain dead moron.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 19, 2024 3:14 pm
Reply to  Indolent

Solid Teal voter.

Roger
Roger
September 19, 2024 12:00 pm

The articles about whether Hezbollah will retaliate are disgusting.Its like the rocket barrage doesnt exist and Hezbollah is just sitting around peacefully.

You mean to say the msm isn’t giving us the full story?

Wouldn’t that be lying by omission?

Or, as they’d call it these days, disinformation by omission.

Roger
Roger
September 19, 2024 12:04 pm

“Because the [US] economy is so slow, that’s why they’re cutting rates, Patricia.”

As opposed to in reverse for 6 quarters and propped up by unsustainable immigration and government spending, like ours.

He’s got a degree in economics, you know.

Rabz
September 19, 2024 12:08 pm

I don’t foresee any Dr Mutton government having the balls to undertake any significant economic reform

They’ll tinker cautiously around various edges and solely where their mates are likely to benefit.

Meanwhile they’ll retain in full the re-regulated sclerotic increasingly totalitarian back to the stone age idiocy gifted to us by the current bunch of drooling collectivist cretins.

And yes, the lights will go out when the electrickery grid collapses shortly after they gain government, which they won’t even attempt to rectify.

But yeah, nookular power for everybody in 25 years’ time.

Cassie of Sydney
September 19, 2024 12:24 pm

She said so you believe Israel is in the right. I said of course, who attacked whom on October 7. She said that was a false flag! End of conversation. What can you say to someone like that.

She was extremely fortunate she wasn’t sitting next to me.

Bet she’s a Teal voter and Allegra fan. Goes with the territory.

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GreyRanga
GreyRanga
September 19, 2024 12:32 pm

River to the Sea shall be Hisbollocksfree.

132andBush
132andBush
September 19, 2024 12:47 pm

“Ultimately, it does feel like both the best job in the world and one of the hardest.”

With a guaranteed paycheque every fortnight.

johanna
johanna
September 19, 2024 1:56 pm
Reply to  132andBush

And very generous superannuation, in NSW at least.

Philby
Philby
September 19, 2024 5:59 pm
Reply to  132andBush

If you think it’s easy have a go. Every government and semi government employee receives a pay cheque fortnightly and most of those bludgers never work as hard as most teachers.

Rosie
Rosie
September 19, 2024 12:50 pm

Lebanon has very unreliable electricity, in fact it ‘no longer has a functioning public grid’ so losing solar is a big deal.
Hopefully this only occurred in Hezbollah strongholds.
Funny how these scumbags have billions to spend on killing Jews while their own country is falling more and more into abject poverty.
(Enclaves in the Bekaa Valley excepted)

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
September 19, 2024 6:59 pm
Reply to  Rosie

Lebanon is not their home country, they conquered it after Black September was invited in by charitable Christians after they tried to foment a civil war in Jordan.
Lebanon and its civil war is an object lesson in the saying “One cancer cell is one too many.”
The King of Jordan knew damn well how to deal with these psychopaths – surround their main city with troops and artillery and bomb the crap out of it for a week. Shoot anyone who tries to get out.
Demand unconditional surrender, then exile everyone still alive.
Notice that not – one – Arabic – Nation would take them in.

1735099
1735099
September 19, 2024 12:52 pm
Barking Toad
Barking Toad
September 19, 2024 12:56 pm

Adam Creighton in the Oz on the lunacy of Democrats…

an extract…

It’s typically wrong to blame individuals’ violent actions on the political rhetoric of others, but perhaps not in this case: Routh appears to have been thoroughly propagandised by Democratic slogans, which any fair-minded observer must concede are virulently and sometimes violently disparaging of Trump.

cohenite
September 19, 2024 12:57 pm

Fuk off numbers.

Rosie
Rosie
September 19, 2024 12:59 pm

“Twenty people were killed and hundreds were wounded when walkie-talkies owned by Hezbollah members exploded across Lebanon on Wednesday afternoon, the second coordinated attack on the militant group involving booby-trapped devices in two days, according to Lebanese and Hezbollah officials.”
Explosions in Southern Beirut and Tyre, both Hezbollah strongholds.
Looks pretty targeted to me.
Nevertheless al Jazeera are pretending that these walkie-talkies belonged to innocent civilians, for unknown purposes.
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/09/18/world/israel-hezbollah-gaza-hamas?smid=nytcore-android-share

Rabz
September 19, 2024 1:00 pm

The “Rolling Insurrection” thread at CL’s is becoming increasingly hilarious, with the latest loon to join in the fun being (cue spookee muzak…) Eddles Casevich.

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Boambee John
Boambee John
September 19, 2024 2:03 pm
Reply to  Rabz

I would have said “ridiculous”, with an apparent chat bot with only one (left) eye trying to pretend to be an impartial observer. He finally cracked with this racist, sexist statement, revealing his true programming:

 white males of a certain age – despite my membership of the group (save for not being American), the fewer of them around the better, as far as I’m concerned!

What was the song from South Pacific? “You’ve got to be carefully taught …” He has been.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 19, 2024 3:16 pm
Reply to  Rabz

Gone. And forgotten. Our little buddy.

Jock
Jock
September 19, 2024 1:05 pm

So United Nations Secretary-General Antonio Guterres says civilian objects should not be weaponised . So does that mean Australia was doing the wrong thing in WW1 using jam tins to make trench bombs. This guy is a far left anti semite.

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
September 19, 2024 7:06 pm
Reply to  Jock

That depends, Jock.
What brand was the jam? IXL? If so a great patriotic move by them.
However if the UN finds out, they may just hand France over to Germany, and write the second world war out of the history books.

cohenite
September 19, 2024 1:05 pm

Good article by Melanie on the testicle terror unleashed by Israel and the wider ramifications and context of the ongoing threat to Israel and the West:

Hoist with their own devices – Melanie Phillips (substack.com)

132andBush
132andBush
September 19, 2024 1:27 pm

1735099
 September 19, 2024 12:52 pm

You’ve gotta laugh –

Lets force feed roughly 45,000 third world shtholers into Toowoomba as an experiment to see if you’re still laughing two years down the track you sanctimonious, moralistic elitist.

132andBush
132andBush
September 19, 2024 1:32 pm

Speaking of jam tins; there are reports from the Middle East of a sudden spike in demand for them. As well as string.

Lysander
Lysander
September 19, 2024 1:35 pm

Israeli Chief of Staff says in press conference that “we will make Hezbollah afraid to go to the toilet”

https://x.com/RealBababanaras/status/1836449539974402177

Anders
Anders
September 19, 2024 1:59 pm
Reply to  Lysander

Not the exploding musical toilets and bidets! It will be back to the stone age, back to wiping butts with a stone like good old Mo.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 19, 2024 2:06 pm
Reply to  Lysander

Mossad toilets!

dopey
dopey
September 19, 2024 3:13 pm
Reply to  Lysander

Full flush or half, it won’t matter.

shatterzzz
September 19, 2024 3:59 pm
Reply to  Lysander

Some class A comments underneath .. LOL!

Rosie
Rosie
September 19, 2024 1:36 pm
Lysander
Lysander
September 19, 2024 1:42 pm

I like Sharri’s work and defence of Israel but does she really need to ask, on air, why the Iranian Envoy to Lebanon had a pager?

Or am I being harsh and she is just catering for the “stupids” who might be watching?

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
September 19, 2024 1:45 pm

Thanks for posting the piece by Melanie Phillips. Cohenite @ 01:05pm.

Excellent. Special words at the end…

Today, the head of the IDF, General Herzi Halevi, observed: 

We have countless capabilities still lying in wait, untouched. The plans are already in motion.

Let’s hope they really are, and that Israel doesn’t turn the tactical genius of the past two days into strategic failure.

Chris
Chris
September 19, 2024 3:39 pm
Reply to  Barking Toad

To gain and retain the initiative…

Arky
September 19, 2024 1:53 pm

Trump on Gutfield.
Something occurred to me.
The media and democrats had no choice but to go far far far out with the demonisation of Trump and complete hostility.
The bloke is devastatingly good.
If they had gone in half hearted on him he would be an absolute certainty to win.
Media competent, charming, a huge storehouse of anecdotes from a long TV career. Knows absolutely everyone.
It’s the way it is now because that was the way it had to be, nothing else but depriving Trump of oxygen and replacing appearances by him on networks with an entire dumb narrative would have kept him out.
They did what they had to do to win.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 19, 2024 1:54 pm

From the Oz. Anyone able to post the full article?
My mother survived the Holocaust. I used her words to silence a pro-Palestine activistAfter being offered a bodyguard for an appearance at a local writers’ festival, Rachelle Unreich was reminded that her mother’s lessons are more important and relevant than ever in the face of rising anti-Semitism.

Tom
Tom
September 19, 2024 1:56 pm

Stupid Frigging Liberals news (AAP):

Expelled Victorian Liberal MP Moira Deeming was “distraught” her own children called her a Nazi despite not knowing what it meant, according to evidence in her high-profile legal battle against her former party leader.

Liberal Party figure Nyunggai Warren Mundine made the claim in an affidavit released by the Federal Court during week one of the three-week trial against John Pesutto.

Ms Deeming launched action against the opposition leader over comments he made about her attending a Let Women Speak rally in March 2023 outside state parliament, which was gatecrashed by a group of men who did the Nazi salute.

Mr Mundine described Ms Deeming as a close personal friend and recounted a conversation where she told him her children said “my mum’s a Nazi”.

“She told me that, even though they did not understand what this meant, she was distraught that her children were saying this,” Mr Mundine wrote in his affidavit.

He said he was initially “shocked” by a media release he understood to be “suggesting that Moira was fraternising with Nazis” but came to understand the allegation against her was baseless.

Other affidavits detailed the personal and professional impact to Ms Deeming since the events following the rally, including her husband Andrew who revealed the mother-of-four has become isolated, reclusive and fears politically motivated violence.

Ms Deeming will continue to be questioned in court on Thursday, before multiple high-profile Liberals give evidence over the trial including federal Senator Sarah Henderson, deputy Victorian Liberal leader David Southwick and former MP Matt Bach who now lives in the UK.

Ms Henderson revealed she had reached out to Mr Pesutto over Whatsapp after the rally with concerns over reports about moves to expel her from the party.

Her affidavit questioned whether Ms Deeming had been given procedural fairness and a subsequent media report that referenced those messages had led to Ms Henderson being called a “Nazi sympathiser” and subject to other false comments on social media.

Ms Deeming has been an independent MP since she was suspended then expelled from the Liberal Party in May 2023.

Mr Pesutto has denied wrongdoing and previously reached settlements with activists Kellie-Jay Keen-Minshull and Angela Jones, issuing both a public apology over their rally involvement.

The Stupid Frigging Liberals are not only leaderless in Victoria, but also bereft of fairness and morality. John Prosciuttio is a contemptible little coward who should never have control over a chook raffle, let alone a political party.

Arky
September 19, 2024 2:00 pm

Trump’s response to the media shutdown and open hostility has also been tailored by necessity.
To break through he had to get them to work for him.
To do that he had to craft his opinions in language that they felt compelled to repeat as “gotchas”.
Without saying the things they said he said.
So saying “bloodbath” when talking about something innocuous.
He knows they can’t help themselves if he gives them just a tiny, tiny word or phrase to latch onto.

Arky
September 19, 2024 2:14 pm

J.D. Vance may be a more significant figure in this next administration than Trump himself.
The more I see and hear of J.D. the better it gets.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 19, 2024 2:40 pm

Arky.
His book is a good solid read.
Assuming its mostly factual (and he wasnt famous when he wrote it) hes a chap who understands the value of a good mentor figure, education and probably despises the social gatekeeping crippling some US unis.

He knows they can’t help themselves if he gives them just a tiny, tiny word or phrase to latch onto.

They are getting better at letting stories die though.
Without the ‘eating the cats and dogs” exactly how much cut through would have occurred on the flying in of vote herds to strategic locations?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 19, 2024 2:53 pm

Breeding season is fun. I just had the two magpie females decide to go after each other right at the bottom of my front stairs. Claw to claw and beak to beak! So I go down and stand inches away from this intense female warfare. Leaned down and planted two large hairy hands between the two of them as they were going hammer and tongs on the grass. Then grabbed each one and pulled them apart That finally got their attention!

They’re totally OK with me but certainly not with each other. Hopefully I’ll have some magpie chicks to make friends with soon.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
September 19, 2024 2:58 pm

You’ve certainly got a way with birds BoN 🙂

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Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 19, 2024 3:04 pm
Reply to  Barking Toad

Ace of Spades has some awesome wildlife vids today.

Vicki
Vicki
September 19, 2024 3:01 pm

Our resident farm Maggies are also nesting, so more insistent on their breakfast from the feeder each morning. Husband forgot to replenish feeder outside our exterior bedroom door, so indignant Maggie turned and peered through the french door (glass) to glare with magpie intensity at the mean bastard who forgot the breakfast!

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
September 19, 2024 3:47 pm
Reply to  Vicki

My little magpie mates would bang their beaks on the sliding glass door to remind me!

Crossie
Crossie
September 19, 2024 4:44 pm
Reply to  Barking Toad

They used to do the same to my mother.

Chris
Chris
September 19, 2024 3:37 pm

Your place is the best chance of chicks starting the day with a good breakfast. Of course they compete for the best spots!

Vicki
Vicki
September 19, 2024 3:06 pm

The more I see and hear of J.D. the better it gets.

And the more the Dems and the MSM ridicule him. Testimony to how good he actually is. I read part of Hillbilly Elergy – he is the real deal.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
September 19, 2024 3:11 pm

For ZK2A @01:54pm

I was mired in sorrow for three years after my mother died. I knew this was not how I “should” feel. I ought to have been grateful. My mother had lived until three weeks shy of her 90th birthday.
I had said my goodbyes; she had said hers. Throughout my life, she’d made me feel loved and whole. But her death splintered all that, and I was suddenly adrift. I tunnelled my way out through writing, penning my mother’s story of surviving the Holocaust, and all that she learned from it, in my memoir A Brilliant Life.
Ahead of its publication, I imagined a press tour in which I would tell colourful stories about my vibrant mother, Mira, and the fact that she had lived her life with so much joy, as well as strength. But it hit stores only weeks after October 7, and the landscape had changed completely since the book’s inception. Suddenly I was hiring media training experts to prepare me for antagonistic questions, since I anticipated – correctly – that many journalists would ask me about the war in Israel.
This, despite the fact that my book did not mention it, apart from when my mother visited her brothers there and decided she did not want to live there herself.

I wanted to fully enjoy every book launch and audience talk, but part of me was worrying about my daughter, whose Jewish school advised students not to wear their school uniforms on public transport lest they find themselves a target for hate.
One writers’ festival hired a bodyguard for me, just in case.
During my session at another festival, a protester stood up in the crowd, wearing a keffiyeh and holding a “Free Palestine” sign.

I wanted to fully enjoy every book launch and audience talk, but part of me was worrying about my daughter, whose Jewish school advised students not to wear their school uniforms on public transport lest they find themselves a target for hate.
One writers’ festival hired a bodyguard for me, just in case.
During my session at another festival, a protester stood up in the crowd, wearing a keffiyeh and holding a “Free Palestine” sign.

It was that protester who reminded me of the power of words once more. She stood up when a microphone was thrown to the audience for questions, presumably planning to be disruptive. Just before she did so, I started talking about how my mother survived four concentration camps, including Auschwitz, and a death march at the age of 17. How both of her parents and two siblings were killed – her father shot before her eyes – and yet when she gave testimony decades later, she said: “In the Holocaust, I learned about the goodness of people.”
How she focused on the people who helped her and saved her, Jewish and non-Jewish alike, rather than on those who tried to destroy her.

How, if she were alive today, she would have preached the power of ­connection. How she chose to look at life with love, compassion, and kindness rather than with hate and ­­­resent- ment.
While I said these things, the protestor put her sign down and walked away, her bluster defused.

I understood that it was not only my own writing that held force, but also my mother’s words, which I had faithfully recounted. It is not just what she endured that reaches readers’ hearts, but who she was, and how she decided to live, despite everything. Her words and response to horror have given me a path to follow. Now when I go to synagogue, I know it is to remember where I came from, and what attracted me to go there so often after Mira’s death. It is the feeling I could never name, but I now know its source.
I never knew any of my four grandparents; all were brutally murdered in the Holocaust. They were born in the 1800s and had a completely ­different ­experience of life than my own. They often felt like historical figures. I would browse through their photos without a real understanding of who they were and how they lived. Yet if there is one aspect of my life that would be similar to theirs, it was going to synagogue. If they time-travelled to the present day, they would not feel out of place within its walls, which replicates the synagogues of Eastern Europe. They would recognise the tunes and know the Hebrew words of prayer.

Going to synagogue reminds me on some deep, visceral level who I am, and what my ancestors held dearest.
It is something worth remembering now, more than ever. There’s an irony about A Brilliant Life not lost on me: I’ve been promoting a book about anti-Semitism in a period where there’s never been more anti-Semitism.
I wrote it so that my mother’s legacy would not be lost, but now I realise her lessons are more important and relevant than ever. Not just the lessons of history, and the dangers of it repeating. But my mother’s template for how to live: with hope, resilience, and – perhaps most important – faith.

– Extracted from Being Jewish Now, edited by Zibby Owens, with the group Artists Against Antisemitism. Rachelle Unreich is a journalist and author in Melbourne, whose first book, A Brilliant Life: My Mother’s Inspiring True Story of Surviving the Holocaust, was published shortly after the October 7 massacre in Israel.

Rabz
September 19, 2024 3:15 pm

Expelled Victorian gliberal MP Moira Deeming was “distraught” her own children called her a nayzee despite not knowing what it meant

Prosciutto’s staggering stupidity is entirely to blame for this outrage. Kiddies denouncing their parents as nayzees, despite not knowing what the latter are – straight out of the collectivist playbook.

That Prosciutto is still (allegedly) leader of the Victorian gliberals epitomises everything wrong with them and why they are unelectable, despite Victoria being cursed with the most despicable corrupt incompetent fascist imbeciles in this country’s political history.

The stupid forking gliberals are an inexcusable abomination.

Vicki
Vicki
September 19, 2024 3:16 pm

Out of interest:

On morning TV this morning Shadow Attorney-General Michaelia Cash told Ch9 that 30 years ago she lived for a period of time in Northern Israel & recalled the hostility from Lebanon in those years.

Good to have a real friend of Israel in Canberra.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
September 19, 2024 3:16 pm

Seen on the Oz…

Laptops, phones, doorbells, mopeds, and walkie-talkies are exploding in Lebanon, creating absolute terror among civilians.

Getting better all the time (h/t Sgt. Pepper)

Vicki
Vicki
September 19, 2024 4:28 pm
Reply to  Barking Toad

Yes, India Times reports radios, finger-print devices (of all things!), and solar power systems are also being effected.

https://www.indiatimes.com/news/world/after-pagers-israel-blows-up-hezbollah-walkie-talkies-in-lebanon-642134.html

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Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
September 19, 2024 7:20 pm
Reply to  Barking Toad

And hopefully toilets.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 19, 2024 3:20 pm

https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2024/09/mehreen-faruqi-recognised-with-pride-of-pakistan-award.html

Any of the bush lawyers on this blog help out? Doesn’t Sect 44 of the Constitution have something to say on the subject?

johanna
johanna
September 19, 2024 3:21 pm

Is anyone else fed up with TheirABC’s scaremongering about ‘forever chemicals?’

Firstly, there is no such thing as a ‘forever chemical.’ Nothing on this planet is forever. Using this lying language as part of greenie scare tactics is typical of the ethical void that is TheirABC.

Secondly, Steve Milloy at JunkScience has been debunking this theory for years. I haven’t got time to dig it all up just now, but Milloy’s track record at debunking phony scares considerably outweighs that of hysterical greenies.

BTW, any updates on the phony video they used to attack ADF members?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 19, 2024 3:34 pm
Reply to  johanna

PFAS is the usual.

For fifty years we’ve been eating fried food off of Teflon frypans. The Teflon coating slowly degrades under that attack by heat and oxygen, the degradation products being PFAS. Which dissolved in the cooking oil.

So for the last fifty years we have been consuming vast quantities of PFAS. No one seems to’ve died.

Chris
Chris
September 19, 2024 3:44 pm

That’s what they WANT you to think, BoN.

Vicki
Vicki
September 19, 2024 4:23 pm
Reply to  johanna

Yep. Husband goes bonkers every time he hears the term. “WTF?”

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
September 19, 2024 7:21 pm
Reply to  johanna

The ABC seems to be a “forever” contamination though.

johanna
johanna
September 19, 2024 3:30 pm

Oh, and hit the jackpot today at elite booshop ‘The Salvos’ .

For $4, Robert G Barrett’s Crime Scene Cessnock.

Can’t wait!

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
September 19, 2024 3:51 pm
Reply to  johanna

Loved Les Norton

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
September 19, 2024 4:12 pm
Reply to  johanna

Robert Barrett, interest picks.

Les Norton?

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
September 19, 2024 5:18 pm
Reply to  Rockdoctor

His main character in his books – check wiki

Chris
Chris
September 19, 2024 3:35 pm

That Prosciutto is still (allegedly) leader of the Victorian gliberals epitomises everything wrong with them and why they are unelectable, despite Victoria being cursed with the most despicable corrupt incompetent fascist imbeciles in this country’s political history.

The stupid forking gliberals are an inexcusable abomination.

Affirmed.
I just read the Spectator article and it reminded me: has anyone identified the actual neonayzees who staged that show?

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
September 19, 2024 6:53 pm
Reply to  Chris

The ‘actual’ neonayzees increasingly look like a false-flag operation protected by the Victorian policem

Foxbody
Foxbody
September 19, 2024 8:28 pm
Reply to  Old Lefty

Agreed, OL
They materialised shortly after Premier Andrews started mentioning Nazis training in the Grampians. No evidence of them, not an issue in public life – and yet suddenly they appeared right after his puzzling references.

Lysander
Lysander
September 19, 2024 3:37 pm
Pogria
Pogria
September 19, 2024 3:48 pm

Interesting article in the Mail by a local journo in Beirut describing the aftermath of the bombings. He has managed to stay away from the blame game etc. The comments section is enlightening. Absolutely no love for the Lebs. Almost every comment has a version of FAFO.

Interesting that, not just a huge loss of bollocks, lots of eyeballs also rolling free from the River to the Sea. 😀

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13866291/panic-Beirut-Lebanon-hezbollah-pagers-army-explosions-basmati-rice-bags.html

shatterzzz
September 19, 2024 3:54 pm

Just watched the entire “God Emperor” rally from Uniondale, NY ..
?He’s just addictive .. switch on thinking I’ll give it 10 minutes and close to an hour & a half later still watching ……….!

Lysander
Lysander
September 19, 2024 4:02 pm
Reply to  shatterzzz

Oh Shatterz… what have you just done to my afternoon!!! 😛

1735099
1735099
September 19, 2024 4:17 pm
Reply to  shatterzzz

I used to watch World Championship Wrestling when I was a kid.
I grew out of it when I began to understand that it was staged bullshit.
Trump is about as credible as CM Punk, but many Septics still believe that WCW and Trump are real.

Cassie of Sydney
September 19, 2024 4:04 pm

There’s an old song, written in the 1920s, about a distant association with the Prince of Wales….

“I’ve danced with a man, who’s danced with a girl, who’s danced with the Prince of Wales”

I’ve attended a rally, where Nazis, Antifa and Socialist Unity turned up uninvited, and bingo I am now a Nazi, Antifa and Socialist Unity too!

In March last year, I attended the first Let Women Speak rally here in Sydney. The rally passed without incident because the NSW Police, on horseback, did their job and kept Antifa and other hard and far-left protesters at bay. However, using the limited logic of little Johnny Pesutto (and David Southwick and Georgie Crozer), I am now Antifa/Socialist Unity because I’m guilty of ‘association’.

In February last year, I attended (with the wonderful Tinta)Cardinal Pell’s funeral here at St Mary’s Cathedral, Sydney. Antifa and other hard and far-left protesters decided to protest a funeral, walking directly past the cathedral (I actually felt nervous). However, using the limited logic of little Johnny Pesutto (and David Southwick and Georgie Crozer), I am now Antifa/Socialist Unity because I’m guilty of ‘association’.

Ya get the logic, guilt by association, however tenuous, and this is what has been done to Moira Deeming, Ange Jones, Kath Deves and Kellie-Jay Keen. They all attended a rally in Melbourne, some Grampian Nazis turned up uninvited and bingo, they’re now Nazis too!?

You really couldn’t make this sh*t up, could you?

Calling gender critical women such as myself ‘Nazis’ and ‘far-right’ has been the stock in trade of the perverts, autogynephiles and freaks over the last few years, it’s how they silence, often successfully, any rational discussion whatsoever, particularly any discussion around the absurd ‘self ID’ laws. If you have a problem with a cock in a frock, you’re a Nazi. If you believe in biological reality, you’re a Nazi, and if you believe there only two sexes (a common biological reality for all mammals), you’re a Nazi. In fact the ‘Nazi’ and ‘far-right’ smears were used in federal parliament only a day or two ago to silence Pauline Hanson, who tried to table a motion to discuss reviewing Gillard’s absurd gender bill from 2012, a bill which has, as seen in the Sall Grover case, annihilated the very concept of the uniqueness of the female sex.

But further to becoming a ‘Nazi’ or ‘Antifa’ simply by association, as in just attending a meeting/rally/protest where far-left or far-right protesters turn up to protest you, I have to say I liked JK Rowling’s smackdown on X earlier this year. You see, at the pro-Pallie Jew hating rallies in London, almost exclusively the domain of the far-left and Islamists, some protests/marches have attracted, since October 7, some far-right real Nazis! Whadda you know, like attracts like. We shouldn’t be surprised, Jew hatred is a common thread that ties the far-left, far-right and Islamists. It’s akin to an umbilical cord.

Earlier this year, some moron from Vice News posted this on X…..

‘Neo-Nazis are showing up at pro-Palestine protests in an attempt to push anti-Jewish conspiracy theories and tropes into the mainstream.

And Rowling responded on X……..

‘Hang on, when far-right groups, eager for publicity/violence appear and agitate near women’s rallies, that makes all the women sticking up for their rights ‘fascists’ and ‘Nazis’, however when fascists and Nazis join a protest YOU agree with, they’re opportunists who mustn’t be allowed to besmirch a righteous case.’

A sublime smackdown by Rowling of the hypocrisy from the left.

If Moira Deeming is a Nazi, I’ll personally slaughter a Surry Hills rat and eat it.

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Boambee John
Boambee John
September 19, 2024 4:46 pm

Make sure you get a real rat, and not one of those Labor Party luminaries. They are toxic.

Rabz
September 19, 2024 4:08 pm

has anyone identified the actual neonayzees who staged that show?

Didn’t they all just eventually casually exit stage left after being ushered onto centre stage by the vikpol imbeciles who were at the demo?

Seems there was so much figurative pearl clutching and fainting couch adjourning underway (“Oh look, Shayna, pretend nayzees, reeeeeee!”) that nobody actually bothered to find out who they were, much less try and apprehend them.

So pardon my cynicism for implying that it was all a preposterous staged stitch up.

Last edited 5 months ago by Rabz
Pogria
Pogria
September 19, 2024 4:20 pm
Reply to  Rabz

One of the black-clad himbos was identified as the son of a prominent, Senior Vicpol Copper.

Chris
Chris
September 19, 2024 4:34 pm
Reply to  Pogria

I had heard that but so far he is un-named, and the claim is un-sourced as far as I have heard.

mem
mem
September 19, 2024 4:39 pm
Reply to  Pogria

My guess is that the dress up young fellas with arms aloft were organized from within as MD was identified as a threat for thinking rationally about a number of woke subjects and was building support especially from women. She was done in and Poshito facilitated it.

Chris
Chris
September 19, 2024 4:46 pm
Reply to  mem

Do you mean they were… Young Liberals? The ones I have met (in past decades) seemed to wannabe Hooray Henrys, total f*ckwits actually. So not out of the question.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 19, 2024 4:38 pm
Reply to  Rabz

Haven’t seen any at the Halls Gap pub if that helps.

mem
mem
September 19, 2024 5:40 pm
Reply to  H B Bear

These young chaps looked like they were straight out of private school or first year uni review. No tatts, ear rings, nose rings, mullets or dreads. All possibly the same rugby or cricket club and about same age.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 19, 2024 4:17 pm

From the Oz.
Death by pager: How Mossad wreaked havoc on HezbollahThe shell company, the mystery woman and the tiny metal balls … the unorthodox attack on the Lebanese militant group was one of the most audacious in the spy agency’s history

johanna
johanna
September 19, 2024 4:19 pm

Pogria’s link to the Daily Mail was entertaining, especially this bit:

I watched dozens of people walk into the hospital with missing limbs.

Oh, my sides. 🙂

This was in relation to the totally innocent people who happened to be having very close physical contact with Hezbollah members when things went BOOM!

Then, these totally innocent people walked into conveniently located hospitals with missing limbs!

Obviously written and directed by Mel Brooks. 🙂

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 19, 2024 4:40 pm
Reply to  johanna

Bad day to be a moderate Muslim.

Pogria
Pogria
September 19, 2024 4:58 pm
Reply to  johanna

snork, I saw that and had a massive chuckle. 😀

Rosie
Rosie
September 19, 2024 4:21 pm

Hezbollah flying injured terrorists to Iran for treatment
https://x.com/visegrad24/status/1836513414753194388?t=d9ZqhcbkfouTzCUB6ZrySw&s=19

Cassie of Sydney
September 19, 2024 4:35 pm

Going to synagogue reminds me on some deep, visceral level who I am, and what my ancestors held dearest.

Yep.

Rosie
Rosie
September 19, 2024 4:36 pm

“I was among the crowds at the funeral in Beirut yesterday for three men and a boy who had been killed 24 hours earlier when thousands of Hezbollah pagers had exploded in a coordinated attack.”
That an admission you’re a member of Hezbollah?

Chris
Chris
September 19, 2024 4:43 pm

I made X better.
Every time I see a Paleswinian propaganda account I block it.
Now my feed is mostly decent people.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 19, 2024 4:45 pm

Shades of stairman Dan??

Judge dismisses all charges against driver at centre of Daylesford pub crash that left five people deadCourt had heard William Swale had suffered a ‘severe hypoglycaemic attack’ before the November 2023 crash

Pogria
Pogria
September 19, 2024 5:01 pm

So bloody foul!
What the hell does it take to make someone responsible for what they do?
Rhetorical question. sigh…

Philby
Philby
September 19, 2024 6:28 pm
Reply to  Pogria

Perhaps one should ask why the magistrate found otherwise

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 19, 2024 4:48 pm

Daylesford crash charges dropped at commital hearing. Possibly correct at law, seems unsatisfactory somehow.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
September 19, 2024 5:04 pm
Reply to  H B Bear

Didn’t he know his blood sugar levels were wrong? Culpable in that case.

Frank
Frank
September 19, 2024 5:22 pm
Reply to  GreyRanga

Brittle diabetics often don’t know in time.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 19, 2024 6:31 pm
Reply to  Frank

Yes it seems to be around what the Prosecution can prove about his actual state of knowledge at the time. Hopefully they will bring other reckless or negligence charges at a later date.

Roger
Roger
September 19, 2024 6:35 pm
Reply to  H B Bear

Daylesford crash charges dropped at commital hearing. Possibly correct at law, seems unsatisfactory somehow.

The prosecutor stuffed it up.

Magistrate could only take account of accused’s actions from 5:36pm, by which time he was having a hypo.

Last edited 5 months ago by Roger
Old Lefty
Old Lefty
September 19, 2024 6:57 pm
Reply to  H B Bear

Probably correct in the strict sense, but there was still a serious failure: he shouldn’t have been driving in the first place.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 19, 2024 4:57 pm
Pogria
Pogria
September 19, 2024 5:10 pm

What a f**king rat-faced liar.

Rosie
Rosie
September 19, 2024 4:58 pm
Frank
Frank
September 19, 2024 5:01 pm

 you vile incompetent arrogant lesbian slag

Only situationally so, who can forget that short foray into Jay Wetherills undergarments as precursor to obtaining pre-selection. There is a word for people that do that and it is not a very nice one.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
September 19, 2024 5:03 pm
Reply to  Frank

Nice get. Forgot about that one.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
September 19, 2024 5:01 pm

Daylesford crash charges dropped at committal hearing. Possibly correct at law, seems unsatisfactory somehow.

He might have had a ‘severe hypoglycaemic attack’ but the stupid old entitled prick should never be allowed behind a wheel again.

Civil proceedings will clear some assets.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 19, 2024 5:04 pm

Copied from Currency Lad

Currency Lad

Buccaneer says:
19 September, 2024 at 2:32 pm
Is this the reason Biden dropped out of the race and what role did Harris have?

Iranian malicious cyber actors in late June and early July sent unsolicited emails to individuals then associated with President Biden’s campaign that contained an excerpt taken from stolen, non-public material from former President Trump’s campaign as text in the emails. There is currently no information indicating those recipients replied. Furthermore, Iranian malicious cyber actors have continued their efforts since June to send stolen, non-public material associated with former President Trump’s campaign to U.S. media Iranian

organizati

The Wussia, Wussia, Wussia fuss was supposedly started by Russia hacking the Shrillary campaign and passing info to the Trump campaign.

Is this a new “IranGate” in the making?

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Boambee John
Boambee John
September 19, 2024 5:09 pm
Reply to  Boambee John

Can’t get the paste to work, visit CL to find the story about Iran touting hacked Trump campaign material around.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 19, 2024 5:14 pm
Reply to  Boambee John

Oops, it appeared after all!

With a stray part of a word.

Lysander
Lysander
September 19, 2024 5:12 pm
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Lysander
Lysander
September 19, 2024 5:14 pm
Reply to  Lysander

The Biden campaign said “they did not use the material” LOL!!!

(Thus acknowledging receipt)

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
September 19, 2024 5:29 pm

Boambee John:  September 19, 2024 10:11 am

But at a separate cost to them and society. How many of the homeless would have formerly been in an institution, now on the streets?

Another aspect is the Special Workshops.
Small factories run by charitable institutions doing Process Work like making welcome packs for Motels, similar packs for airlines, showbags, etc.
They were paid similar to the dole but it gave them social contact, a routine, the feeling of worth.
The Unions demanded they be paid standard wages and of course they couldn’t do it. So they went broke.
And it happened to hundreds of otherwise ‘productive’ and happy Australians.
We had one youngish chappie who was ’employed’ at one of these factories and when it closed he had nothing to do.
He couldn’t understand why he wasn’t allowed to see his friends and started self harming.
I don’t remember if he eventually succeeded but several suicide attempts later, I had moved on.
For that outrageous act of bastardry, I hope every Union Official gets a one way chopper ride.

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
September 19, 2024 7:02 pm
Reply to  Winston Smith

Deinstitutionalization was an unholy alliance between the mad pervert left (Foucault, RD Laing etc), the bean counters and the property developers who fancied the sites of the asylums. The result? Cast them out into non-existent ‘care’ in the non-existent ‘community’.

Beertruk
September 19, 2024 5:29 pm

The Mocker in the Paywallion:

It ain’t easy being Green — but a strong dose of idiocy helps
The Mocker
19 Sep 2024

Standing in solidarity with Land Forces Expo protesters in Melbourne last week, Greens senator David Shoebridge masterfully executed an act of Orwellian doublethink while maintaining a straight face. The “core tenets” of his party, he insisted, are “peace and non-violence”.

Could I add a third to that list, David, that being “taking the piss”? The so-called anti-war and pro-Palestinian protesters he defended likewise follow the Greens’ version of peace and non-violence. Rioters spat on police, sprayed acid in their direction, and pelted them with rocks, canned food, and manure. They even attacked police horses.

Twenty-seven officers were injured. So who did Shoebridge condemn? Why, the Victoria Police, of course, accusing them of “extreme violence”. My first thought upon hearing that was to hope he would take the form of a police horse in his next reincarnation. But I immediately dismissed that, given remarks like his prove Shoebridge would not have the requisite intelligence.

Speaking of intelligence, what does it say about those who vote for the Greens? I am not talking about young, impetuous adults. All of us did stupid things in our youth. But what does it say of a middle-aged person who votes for them? Let’s consider a typical case.

You live in the inner-city suburbs of East Melbourne or Sydney’s Inner West. Your partner, Julian, is a high-level public servant, and you are a senior academic responsible for developing new study programs in sociology.

Your vision of an egalitarian society is one in which “the rich pay their fair share”. You purport to speak for “the working class” but the only dealings you have with blue-collar workers is when you need a tradie. You maintain the system is rigged to favour big companies, but you conveniently ignore that Australian businesses have the second-highest corporate tax rate in the developed world.

As with many of your fellow socialists, your financial portfolio is looking a peach. Although you own three investment properties, you write letters to the newspaper demanding the abolition of negative gearing – provided of course that comes with a grandfather clause.

Thanks to your partner’s connections, you have a gun North Sydney accountant. In return for mates rates, he looks after your financial affairs, meaning you have not had to pay net tax for the last few years. And when you retire, you will receive a very tidy pension. That 17 per cent employer superannuation contribution is just one of the many perks of academia.

You went to a private school, but, as you tell your friends, you decided against sending your children to one for their secondary education, because they foster “elitism” and lack “diversity”. You omit telling them you were holding out on that decision until you received confirmation they had been accepted into a state selective school.

You regard with disdain mainstream Australia. September and October feature the worst in plebeian vulgarity, with all those shouty footy fans spoiling your tranquillity. “Bread and circuses,” you tell your circle, thinking your analogy both insightful and original.

You take yourself so seriously you are almost devoid of humour. When you suggested to one of the parents at the local tennis club that it should acknowledge it was on unceded lands, he responded that it had grass courts. You still cannot work out if he was being serious or not.

You try to avoid catch-ups with extended family, for they do not share your tolerant and worldly views, as you repeatedly stress to understanding friends. Your sister Kate is a happy stay-at-home mum, and she rolls her eyes when you explain to her that she lives an “unfulfilled” life. You have not forgiven her husband, Gary, for laughing uproariously last Christmas lunch when Julian proudly spoke of being a “male ally in the roadmap to gender equality”.

That reaction was annoying enough, but what really grates is that Gary is a self-made man. Although you would never admit it, you think it unfair that someone who never went to university has more assets than you do. Also, why would someone wealthy choose to live in the outer suburbs?

As a feminist, you deplore the treatment of women politicians, although you are remarkably selective in your outrage. You claim conservative politics is replete with misogyny. Yet when former British prime minister Margaret Thatcher died, you entertained your colleagues at morning tea the next day by cracking the bubbly and singing ‘The Witch is Dead’.

As an academic, you take pride in your intellectual superiority, but in reality you are incapable of entertaining an opposing view. You become flustered and defensive when you do not control the debate or the setting. At your high school reunion last year, you were shocked to hear women at your table say they would be voting No in the upcoming voice referendum. So distraught were you that you left the event early and had to pop an extra Valium to go to sleep.

Saving the planet, or rather showing others you are saving the planet, is your number one concern. You have just booked your second overseas holiday for this year and are a platinum jetsetter who would never settle for anything less than business class, but that’s okay because you purchase a carbon offset with every trip. You own an electric vehicle and cannot understand why all Australians do not follow suit. Range anxiety is nonsense you say. After all, the furthest you drive is to the airport or to your coastal retreat.

You are vocal about the need to learn from history, otherwise known as disproportionately focusing on the sins of conservative white men. But you would bristle if someone pointed out that the left were the loudest proponents of the White Australia policy, or if one of your students called out Bruce Pascoe’s ‘Dark Emu’ for its farcical conclusions.

Being progressive, you hold that your ideology is one of altruism. You consider the justification for your party’s policies to be self-evident. Accordingly, those who oppose them are either wicked or ignorant. But you have no idea, for example, that progressives were at the forefront of social Darwinism and the eugenics movement during the early twentieth century.

“But the progressives of today have nothing in common with those of that era,” you would reply. Think again. They were convinced of the righteousness of their cause. Their philosophy incorporated the racism of low expectations. And they believed in big government and the intervention of the state to further their ideology.

Your reaction to the October 7 attacks is telling. You acknowledge for the sake of appearances that Hamas murdered Israeli men, women, and children, yet you qualify that by saying “Look, I’m not condoning what happened, but”.

You are not anti-Semitic, you keep telling yourself. In other words, you think the Zionists are fair game. But you have not stopped screeching since learning yesterday Israel had taken out Hezbollah terrorists with exploding pagers.

And finally, you believe you will realise a social utopia in your lifetime. Unlike so many other far-left movements in the last hundred or so years, you are confident yours will not culminate in the mass expropriation of property, a collapse of the economy, and an authoritarian state.

Even if the unthinkable happened and it did, you would be able to prove you have long been on the right side of history, thus meaning they would never come for you. Right?

Retarded Greentards.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 19, 2024 5:32 pm

Hmm. As mentioned by others, the Daylesford diabetic has been given a reprieve – but I would suggest it’s only temporary (the Hun):

Crown prosecutor Jeremy McWilliams said Mr Swale had been a hypoglycaemic aware diabetic since his diagnosis in 1994, meaning he was aware of the symptoms and risks associated with the condition.

So, only been a diabetic for 30 years then.

“He is well aware … of recognising his own personal suite of symptoms of falling blood glucose levels and what to do to remedy or rectify those circumstances,” he said.

“Here we have a driver that is very aware of what the consequence of driving with low blood sugar level is — it’s loss of control.”

Yes it is.

The court heard a continuous blood monitoring device recorded Mr Swale’s blood-glucose levels dropping from 7.2 millimoles per litre — within the normal range — to 2.9 mmol in a 20-minute window about an hour before the crash.

After the second reading, Mr Swale received the first of several phone alerts at 5.18pm that his blood-glucose levels were low.

The only decent BingBong! on the market, and he ignored it.

He began driving again at 5.36pm and six minutes later his BMW SUV was recorded on CCTV sitting motionless in the middle of the road outside Daylesford bowls club, forcing other motorists to go around.

It took him a further 23 minutes to travel about 300m before he failed to negotiate a turn and ploughed into the beer garden.

Nine alerts, all ignored by Mr I Am Rich And Know Better.

The magistrate took the view that despite being given nine separate warnings that his blood sugar was dangerously low, his actions in getting behind the wheel for the final time were involuntary.

Well – that was a committal hearing, not a trial. The prosecution still has the option of ignoring the magistrate’s decision and what they (apparently) call ‘direct presentment’, going to trial before a judge and twelve men good and true*.

And as also mentioned earlier, the civil proceedings following the trial – regardless of verdict – will mean Mr Sporty Beemer won’t be able to afford so much as a full-sugar Pepsi after this is done.

*Yes, with chicks as well. Geez.

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Lysander
Lysander
September 19, 2024 5:45 pm

KD, I’m not a class warrior nor an anti-beemer driver, but you would think, rationally, that a person ignoring 9 low glucose alerts is either culpable for ignoring those alerts or there’s something else afoot (maybe as benign as hearing loss or more serious as dementia, or somewhere in betwixt)…?

I’ve heard of people getting out of culpability from accidents cos they were having major sneezing/hayfever fits whilst already on the road and while this silly old codger should’ve known better, I’m not sure I want new laws across all States that regulate your blood pressure, glucose levels, sleep you had last night etc…

Related, I have heard that in the future we’ll have “floating car insurance” prices and these will be based on (much broader) biological dispositions, sleep, attentiveness (via cameras in-car), heart rhythm, onboard car data (speed, line) tracking, near miss data etc…

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
September 19, 2024 6:15 pm

Summed it up better than me KD.

Roger
Roger
September 19, 2024 6:41 pm

The magistrate took the view that despite being given nine separate warnings that his blood sugar was dangerously low, his actions in getting behind the wheel for the final time were involuntary.

The magistrate could only go by what the prosecutor presented. And the prosecutor’s case began with the accused’s actions from 5:36pm (by which time he was nearly comatose) rather than earlier in the day.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 19, 2024 6:41 pm

Well – that was a committal hearing, not a trial. The prosecution still has the option of ignoring the magistrate’s decision and what they (apparently) call ‘direct presentment’, going to trial before a judge and twelve men good and true*.

That would seem fraught with risk – either at first instance or on appeal – unless the DPP has a view the Magistrate has erred in law. I would think other charges might avoid any difficulty.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 19, 2024 5:35 pm
Lysander
Lysander
September 19, 2024 5:48 pm

Now that’s funny!!!! 😛 😛 😛

Last edited 5 months ago by Lysander
Black Ball
Black Ball
September 19, 2024 5:44 pm

Reposted for excellence, as Knuckle Dragger sez:

No, you vile incompetent arrogant lesbian slag, Australia did not “want to back the motion” drafted by the PLO to destroy Israel.

Your stinking illegitimate roadkill circus of a so called government wanted to back it, for the most base expedient reasons possible.

To maintain your illegitimate grasp on power and suck some moozley electoral microcock, which is now a figurative pager blowing up in your stupid ugly faces, you foul lying harridan.

Take a bow Rabz. Take a bow.

Lysander
Lysander
September 19, 2024 5:58 pm

Media: “Mr Netanyahu, is Israel behind the pager explosions?”

Netanyahu: “So, I was born and raised in a middle-class family…”

Pogria
Pogria
September 19, 2024 6:23 pm
Reply to  Lysander

BANG!

Crossie
Crossie
September 19, 2024 6:53 pm
Reply to  Lysander

Love it!

cohenite
September 19, 2024 6:15 pm

FMD: credlin admits to have supported sarah 2 dads and britternee in their previous battles against the patriarchy. Done so she says with a face looking more and more like Black Caviar because no matter the ideological differences all sheilas share the same battle against dicks.

This is the rot at the heart of conservatism: it believes that there exists rules and fairness which must not be subverted. Never does it enter credlin’s unbridled muzzle that the left have no rules and sarah 2 dads and briternee like all lefties would never reciprocate and would in fact kick the naive mare when she was down.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 19, 2024 6:25 pm

So there was a third attempt on Trump?

*Puts on Progressive clown cap*

You know who else survived multiple assassination attempts?

HITLER!

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
September 19, 2024 7:46 pm
Reply to  Mother Lode

Trump has a fair way to go – Hitler survived 34 attempts – most of them absolute genuine efforts that should have worked.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 19, 2024 6:29 pm

Ahaaaa.

You know who else survived multiple assassination attempts?

HITLER!

Yeah! And Richard the Lionheart and the Black Prince and Charles the First!

Are you joiNing the DOTs yet Sheeple?

Well are you?

132andBush
132andBush
September 19, 2024 8:01 pm

Don’t forget John Snow.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
September 19, 2024 6:38 pm

Are you joiNing the DOTs yet Sheeple?

There are always retrograde elements who would distract themselves with by focussing upon what someone has actually done, and blind themselves to all the tenuous gossip, salacious innuendo, and baseless rumour that their betters have prepared for them.

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Indolent
Indolent
September 19, 2024 6:40 pm
Crossie
Crossie
September 19, 2024 6:57 pm
Reply to  Indolent

Recrded and watched it. He is truly a natural tv performer getting through to the viewers and that why the Democrats are doing everything they can to kill him.

Black Ball
Black Ball
September 19, 2024 6:46 pm

Mmmyes black fellas told to bend the knee. To the absolute filth:

A final effort to torpedo a ban on a new gold mine is being mounted in a bid to save the $1bn project.

Coalition environment spokesman Jonno Duniam told federal parliament he’d move a private Senator’s bill to repeal the section 10 ban issued on the McPhillamys gold mine by Environment Minister Tanya Plibersek.

“The introduction of this bill is aimed at providing a sensible response to a nonsensical decision,” Mr Duniam said on Thursday.

“The introduction of this bill provides an opportunity for Australia’s Federal parliamentarians to try to reverse that dreadful decision.”

It came as NSW Greens MP Cate Faehrmann earlier this week hosted a webinar criticising media coverage of the gold mine saga at Blayney, which erupted after Ms Plibersek last month used obscure Indigenous heritage legislation to ban the mine’s proposed tailings dam.

But while the environmental impacts of the mine were discussed in depth at the online meeting, the reasons behind the Indigenous heritage laws being triggered were barely touched.

Their omission prompted an email from Ms Faehrmann’s office after the event, claiming “a decision was made to adjust the direction of the webinar to mitigate against any further attacks or misrepresentation”.

“When the time is right, we will put on a dedicated session with First Nations representatives that will be solely focused on the cultural significance of the area and the impacts that the mine will have on cultural heritage,” the email stated.

An email sent out prior to the webinar advertising the event said the Greens MP was “(pulling) together an urgent forum so you can hear from people who will be genuinely impacted by this mine”.

Mr Duniam said the focus on environmental impacts — when the section 10 was based on Indigenous heritage grounds — was telling.

“That the Greens were purely talking about environmental grounds in their webinar, despite the mine gaining every federal and state government environmental approval, shows the shallow nature of their discussion and their political party,” he said.

“The gold mine was approved by the Orange Local Aboriginal Land Council.

“The Coalition will do all we can to get this overturned this term of government, and have committed to getting McPhillamys gold mine up and running should a Dutton government be elected.”

Ms Faehrmann said the webinar “was a success with 115 attendees, including many people from the Central West, including residents of Blayney and Kings Plains” where the mine is proposed.

Mr Duniam’s move comes after his disallowance motion last week — which would have axed the section 10 — was narrowly killed off in the Senate, 31 votes to 29, with Labor, the Greens and independent David Pocock voting against it.

Ms Plibersek has pledged to share a statement of reasons for her decision to issue the section 10 on the proposed mine’s tailings dam site with Regis Resources, the company behind the proposed gold mine, with that document understood to be shared with the company in the coming weeks.

Well get on with it Plibbers. Enough of the shit.
As for the Greens slag, get out of the way. This decision has cost untold millions to not only the local Aboriginal community but Australia as a whole.
That’s your lot monty.

Roger
Roger
September 19, 2024 6:46 pm

This is the rot at the heart of conservatism

Credlin is evidently a right leaning feminist.

That doesn’t necessarily make her a conservative.

Has she ever articulated her political philosophy?

Last edited 5 months ago by Roger
Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
September 19, 2024 7:30 pm
Reply to  Roger

She’s as good as it gets in the OZ media these days. I rarely disagree with her, more often with Kenny, who has a dud connection somewhere in the grey matter. He is ok until the short circuit happens, and then it’s something like “da voice is good, doncha know?”

Roger
Roger
September 19, 2024 8:48 pm
Reply to  Bungonia Bee

Thanks, BB.

I don’t watch TV but I sometimes catch up with Credlin & Kenny via YouTube.

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