Open Thread – Thurs 26 Sept 2024


Sunlight on Brownstones, Edward Hopper, 1956

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Speedbox
September 26, 2024 12:04 pm

Greetings. Welcome.

Rosie
Rosie
September 26, 2024 12:04 pm

Mine

Tom
Tom
September 26, 2024 12:05 pm

First-ish!

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 26, 2024 12:09 pm

Nice thread you have here Dover, it’d be a shame if anything happened to it.

(The Hopper piece is interesting, reminiscent of Norman Rockwell.)

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 26, 2024 12:11 pm

A carry over from the old fred.

Little River Band – Reminiscing (Live 1979)

eb
eb
September 26, 2024 12:13 pm

Love that painting. Edward Hopper one of my favourites.

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
September 26, 2024 12:15 pm

Who has seen the Virgin Airlines ads that feature a grumpy teenager being “serenaded” by funky ground staff?
I’m struggling to see the commercial boost that the funky ads are supposed tap into. Teenagers do not buy tickets, although they might pester parents to buy from the funky flight people.

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
September 26, 2024 12:18 pm

Edward Hopper is neither Geoffrey Smart nor Norman Rockwell, but may have a relative who went on to be a movie actor!

Rosie
Rosie
September 26, 2024 12:21 pm

Love flying to Canberra, 40 minute flight and the ‘priority boarding ‘ area is full of people travelling on the public purse.
Including three Bruce Pasoe lookalikes.

1735099
1735099
September 26, 2024 12:28 pm

I have been reflecting on the story of, Joseph Gilewicz, a member of my rifle section in Vietnam in 1970, who was shot by police in a siege situation at his farm at Pelverata near Hobart on 16 July 1991

Joes story is a tragic but revealing insight into the plight of many veterans. The Tasmanian State Coroner had found in 1992 that the shooting was justifiable homicide. 

The first time this incident became public was when an unsuccessful attempt was made in the Senate on 25th November 1999 by Senator Bob Brown to have documents describing the incident tabled, with a view to the calling of a Royal Commission into the incident. These documents had been compiled by journalist Paul Tapp, during research for a book he wrote about the incident and its aftermath. 

Paul Tapp is a Vietnam veteran (a national serviceman) who had also served with 7 RAR from 27th April until 14th August 1967 during its first tour of Vietnam. On the basis of Tapp’s manuscript, and the evidence of a police whistle-blower, Stan Hanuszewicz, (also a Vietnam veteran), a subsequent Commission of Inquiry (the Mahony report) was eventually held in 2000 which again exonerated the Tasmanian Police. 

 Joseph Gilewicz was the son of Polish immigrants who survived the horrors of the Nazi invasion of their home country and arrived in Australia after the end of the Second World War. Joseph (I knew him in my platoon as “Joe”) was born in Berlin on 1st September 1948. That date was not drawn in the eighth National Service ballot held on 13th September 1968 (drawn birthdates were September 5, 9, 12, 14, 22, 23, 24, 26), so Joe was a volunteer national serviceman. 

Whilst I spent a great deal of time with Joe as a fellow rifle section member during the first half of my tour of Vietnam in 1970, I do not remember him ever explaining his reasons for volunteering. He was a conscientious soldier, often being employed as forward scout when we were patrolling. He had been promoted to Lance Corporal by the time the battalion finished its tour. 

 I lost track of Joe post discharge and heard no more about him until another ex-member of my section wrote to me in 1991 telling me about his tragic and controversial death in a police siege.

Subsequently, another Tasmanian Vietnam veteran, Stan Hanuszewicz, who was a police ballistics expert at the time of the incident, became a whistle-blower in reference to the circumstances of the police conduct during and after the shooting. 

Stan claimed that he was asked by a senior officer to plant evidence meant to indicate that Joe had fired his shotgun at police before being fatally shot. Stan Hanuszewicz, like Joe, was also of Polish heritage, and had served two tours of Vietnam as a regular soldier, the first in 1 RAR as an infantryman in 1965/66 and the second as a tank commander. 

 On his second tour, Stan had rank of sergeant in C Squadron, 1st Armoured Regiment, and A Squadron, 3rd Cavalry Regiment in 1971. In 1991Stan visited a lawyer and made the whistle-blower allegations. 

 He believed a senior officer wanted to make it appear that Joe had shot at police snipers. This claim was denied by the officer concerned. Stan Hanuszewicz had made a similar claim at the coronial inquiry into the death in 1991, but the coroner had dismissed him as a witness of truth. Despite the evidence of a cover-up, the commission found that Joe’s death was “justifiable homicide”. 

Stan has never made his motives in taking the step to become a whistle-blower public, but it is likely that his regard for the reputation of a fellow veteran and an understanding of his suffering were instrumental in taking what must have been a courageous step given his position as a career police officer, and the opprobrium that it caused amongst his police colleagues. 

His background has some similarities with Joe Gilewicz, given that he was born in a concentration camp in Germany and his parents emigrated to Tasmania in the early 1950s. He also had a great deal of experience with national servicemen, having spent three years training them at 2 RTB Puckapunyal prior to returning to Vietnam in 1971 as a tank commander. Stan described himself as “persona non gratia” with the Tasmanian Police Force after the two Gilewicz inquires in his 2008 interview with Nick Fletcher from the Australian War Memorial, and he subsequently retired from the force. 

The episode was put to bed, as far as Tasmanian authorities were concerned, by this reference added as a postscript to the Department of Police and Public Safety 1999 – 2000 Annual Report – The report of Commissioner Mahoney into the death of Joe Gilewicz has reiterated the findings of the coroner in 1992, that the officer who fired the fatal shot acted appropriately under all the given circumstances. 

Commissioner Mahoney accepted the fact the shooting occurred in the circumstances found by Coroner Matterson and rejected various scenarios put forward since then.

Joe Gilewicz, Stan Hanuszewicz and Paul Tapp all have one experience in common. 

They are (or were) Vietnam veterans. The last two worked together to right a perceived wrong for the reputation of the first, and his family. They may have been unsuccessful, but their intention, brought out of a clear understanding of a common experience, was obvious.

The memory of Joe Gilewicz and other victims of this war is honoured by reconciliation, not bitterness. As the poet J. S. Manifold reflected in 1945 after a different war – 

This is not sorrow, this is work: 
I build a cairn of words over a silent man,
My friend John Learmonth whom the Germans killed. 

 Joe Gilewicz, and the other five hundred Australian soldiers who died in Vietnam, can be regarded as “silent men”. If we understand, fifty plus years later, the truth about their experience, rather than confecting a rationalising mythology, we respect their sacrifice, and have the best opportunity to learn the lessons of that sacrifice to achieve peace and reconciliation for ourselves and our children.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 26, 2024 12:37 pm

I spent a great deal of time with Joe as a fellow rifle section member during the first half of my tour of Vietnam

This would be the rifle section you repeatedly and unrepentedly attempted to abandon.

He was a conscientious soldier

A better man than you, then.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 26, 2024 12:38 pm

Just wondering.
Do you ever get sick of talking shit Private Spud?

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 26, 2024 12:43 pm
Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
September 26, 2024 12:55 pm

On the Credlin article. Credlin’s hubby was involved with getting Kennett elected and re-elected. I remember all the adds especially of the guilty party types authorised by Lognaine. There’d be links there through the party machine and comeraderie. Credlin tip toed round this.

Kennett stuffed up when he underestimated Bracks and has again with supporting Prescutto. This is the rub though, without conservatives the Liberals are unelectable and all the reviews say they need to go left. Prescutto is on the road to hell in 2026, he doesn’t have a chance.

I have spent a bit of time in Victoria recently, the state is in perilous waters. Rust bucket popped up by the education/population ponzi comes to mind.

Wally Dali
Wally Dali
September 26, 2024 12:56 pm

That Virgin Air ad, with pink-haired heffalump staff cross-dressing, gurning, mincing, and holding a criminally unprofessional amount of eye contact with an unaccompanied minor, is quite simply about…
…really, do i have to tap the sign?…
Queering the kids.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 26, 2024 1:19 pm

From the Oz. Comment awaiting approval.

The “horrific pagers attack,” wrote Greens senator Mehreen Faruqi, was “exactly the type of sickening warfare” that led to the violent pro-Palestinian protests in Melbourne this month.
At the time she wrote that, the number of resulting deaths in this operation, including that of a child, was at nine. Now contrast Faruqi’s reaction with her comments following the October 7 attacks by Hamas which resulted in the massacre of 1200 Israeli men, women and children, many of whom were subjected to the worst of barbarities before they were murdered.
Incensed by the announcement a day after this mass slaughter that Parliament House would be lit in the colours of the Israeli flag, Faruqi tweeted: “One colonial government supporting another.

Lysander
Lysander
September 26, 2024 1:41 pm

A peer-reviewed, study (with TONNES of references) shows that, where authoritarian governments accede to political protests, the number of protests (averaged over a certain period) expands by 40% the following protest:

State Concessions and Protest Mobilization in Authoritarian Regimes – Elena Leuschner, Sebastian Hellmeier, 2024 (sagepub.com)

“By analyzing protest events in temporal and spatial proximity, we estimate the effect of making concessions on protest mobilization at the subnational level in 18 autocracies from 1991 to 2012. Our results indicate that concessions are associated with a significant and substantive increase in subsequent protest activity.”

Titus Groates
Titus Groates
September 26, 2024 1:41 pm

If anyone can post the Mocker’s latests. It is a clinical evisceration of the fat Paki senator.

Does anyone know who the Mocker is? His writing resembles Prof Timothy Lynch who occasionally writes in the Oz.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 26, 2024 1:44 pm

‘We’ve stuffed it’: Kokoda Track shut indefinitely, leaving tourists high and dryBy Matthew KnottSeptember 26, 2024 — 11.37am

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The Kokoda track is closed indefinitely after being blockaded by angry locals, forcing Australian travellers to be airlifted out of the remote Papua New Guinean jungle and frustrating out-of-pocket tour operators.
Local authorities are scrambling to find a solution to reopen the historic trail, which would usually be enjoying one of its busiest periods of the year, as villagers escalate a long-running dispute with the PNG government over compensation payments.

Top Ender
Top Ender
September 26, 2024 1:57 pm

Reaction to Israel’s strikes on terror group Hezbollah reveal deep hypocrisy

THE MOCKER

Showing my age I know, but I remember when electronic pagers were the duck’s nuts.

The technology was sound, but the process was inefficient. You had to ring the provider, who would then relay the message. This was something of a lottery, given what was dispatched often bore little resemblance to what was dictated.

To the annoyance of many a friend and colleague, providers refused to relay messages containing profanities and abuse. Another hindrance to this free and open expression was the 120-character limit, although admittedly this sharpened one’s ability to communicate succinctly and pithily.

Which brings me to this week’s topic. In reaching out to Hezbollah in the manner it did, Israel has achieved exactly that. Getting its message through was not easy – after all, terrorists, like a lot of busy people, are time-poor and as prone to information overload as the rest of us. The decision to detonate their pagers overcame those blockers and got their full attention.

This came as a shock to the recipients, and you can imagine the consternation. “Fellow jihadis, has anyone seen Brother Sayyid,” asks one anxiously. “There he is in the sky, travelling from the river to the sea!” As for those unfortunates whose pager was located in their front trouser pocket, I do not envy them. On the bright side though they no longer have to assemble for the dreaded short-arm inspection.

This ingenious strike was a huge setback for the Iranian-backed militants who control Lebanon, meaning of course the banshee moralists were furious. The “horrific pagers attack,” wrote Greens senator Mehreen Faruqi, was “exactly the type of sickening warfare” that led to the violent pro-Palestinian protests in Melbourne this month.

At the time she wrote that, the number of resulting deaths in this operation, including that of a child, was at nine. Now contrast Faruqi’s reaction with her comments following the October 7 attacks by Hamas which resulted in the massacre of 1200 Israeli men, women and children, many of whom were subjected to the worst of barbarities before they were murdered.

Incensed by the announcement a day after this mass slaughter that Parliament House would be lit in the colours of the Israeli flag, Faruqi tweeted: “One colonial government supporting another. What a disgrace”, along with the #FreePalestine hashtag.

She has repeatedly refused to say whether Hamas should be dismantled, insisting in July the issue had “nothing to do” with “Palestinian self-determination”. Do not hold your breath waiting for her to condemn Hezbollah, which Australia has listed as a terrorist organisation. As The Daily Telegraph reported, Faruqi spoke at the Sayeda Zainab Centre last month, the occasion being a screening of the movie ‘Palestine Under Siege’. This same mosque promotes and glorifies Hezbollah figures in its Facebook page.

Like Hamas, Hezbollah is dedicated to the eradication of Israel. Following the October 7 attacks, Hashem Safieddine a senior official of the organisation, declared that Hezbollah stood “in solidarity” with Palestinians. “Our history, our guns and our rockets are with you,” he enthused.

Since then it has fired over 8000 rockets into Israel. But according to Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah, Israel has, in decimating the organisation’s ranks by remote control, “crossed all red lines”. Clearly I must be missing something.

Equally bemusing is Faruqi’s insistence that the “perpetrators” be “held to account.”

We are talking of the demise of unlawful combatants and medievalist ones at that. If you want me to sign a condolence book for this lot, Mehreen Faruqi, then allow me to choose the words. I have not been this upset since Ivan Milat snuffed it.

It is the occasion for high dudgeon hypocrisy. University of Sydney law professor and UN special rapporteur on human rights and counter-terrorism Ben Saul labelled the exploding pagers “a terrifying violation of international law”.

In a joint statement, he and other UN panjandrums expressed their “deepest solidarity to the victims of these attacks” and called for an investigation to “enable accountability for the crime of murder”.

But there was no pledge of solidarity for Israel in Saul’s op-ed for the Sydney Morning Herald in the aftermath of the October 7 attacks. “While condemning Hamas’ terrorism, we must address the conditions which breed violence,” he wrote. “Hamas did not rise in a vacuum”. And Israel’s attack on Hezbollah did not rise in a vacuum, prof. But for some reason you did not repeat that phrase in your joint statement.

Incidentally, did you too notice the reaction, or rather the non-reaction, of Jewish-Australians to the news that Hezbollah was reeling? No dancing joyfully in the streets, no letting off fireworks, no marching on the Sydney Opera House while chanting ‘Where’s the Muslims’. What does that tell you about who is the real warmonger in the Middle East?

To be clear, I do not mean to imply the Israelis have not broken any law in their operation against Hezbollah. It was very sneaky of them to sell dodgy pagers to unsuspecting jihadis who handed over their money in good faith. Just because they are terrorists does not mean they forego their contractual rights. Good luck taking that up with your local consumer affairs bureau, lads.

Trying to restore morale in Hezbollah will be a challenge for its leaders. Imagine not being game to turn on an electronic appliance for the rest of your life. Still, this does have benefits. It will minimise Hezbollah’s CO2 emissions and could even lead to the organisation becoming carbon-neutral one day. Who knows, this could be the one and only occasion when its members contribute to the public good, even if it is by accident.

If there is one thing this affair has taught us, it is that Israel, like all effective communicators, knows its target audience very well. It speaks to terrorists in the only language they understand.

Oz

Roger
Roger
September 26, 2024 2:05 pm

Incensed by the announcement a day after this mass slaughter that Parliament House would be lit in the colours of the Israeli flag, Faruqi tweeted: “One colonial government supporting another.”

Such an ignorant woman.

If she hates Australia so much why emigrate here?

vr
vr
September 26, 2024 2:11 pm

Love that painting. Edward Hopper one of my favourites.

Every time I am in Chicago, I visit The Art Institute to see the Nighthawks.

Cassie of Sydney
September 26, 2024 2:15 pm

If she hates Australia so much why emigrate here?

Careful now, according to Fatso Faruqi, asking such a question is waaaacist.

cohenite
September 26, 2024 2:29 pm

Hunter Biden’s laptop has absolutely nothing to do with alleged election fraud.
?
2020 election outcome would differ with Hunter Biden laptop coverage: poll (nypost.com)

cohenite
September 26, 2024 2:30 pm

A good summary of the 2020 election fraud:

Elections Have Consequences; Stolen Elections Have Catastrophes – American Thinker

Some of the stuff was censorship, soros style manipulation, actual fraud, false ballots, double counting etc, involvement of influential bastards like the 50 security shitheads who signed the letter saying Hunter’s lap top was russian which affected the votes of about 20% of the electorate. As well you had disappearing votes:

NEVER EXPLAINED: NINE TIMES on 2020 Election Night on Live TV a Total of Nearly 400,000 Votes Disappeared From President Trump’s Column | The Gateway Pundit | by Joe Hoft

A very good summary of the election fraud shenanigans by the demorats:

(18) Tom Elliott on X: “The more we learn about the 2020 election, the more undeniable it becomes that Biden owes his “victory” to blatant political corruption. To wit: 1) An IRS probe into the Bidens money laundering payments from hostile nations — the normal outcome of which would have ended his https://t.co/bHu49qGUST” / X

cohenite
September 26, 2024 2:37 pm

If she hates Australia so much why emigrate here?

This applies to every muzzie. The question is spurious. Muzzies don’t immigrate to benefit from the Western democracy; they immigrate to change the Western democracy into the muzzie hell hole they left.

1735099
1735099
September 26, 2024 2:38 pm

Trying to restore morale in Hezbollah will be a challenge for its leaders. Imagine not being game to turn on an electronic appliance for the rest of your life.

Bullshit.
Beginning his rant with “imagine” reveals how divorced he is from reality.
The Mocker has no clue.
The more Jihadis the Israelis kill, the more their morale improves.
They thrive on it, and the Israelis provide them with motivation for revenge.
It’s simple brutal stuff, and they are winning with every civilian killed.
To the Israelis they’re collateral.
To the Jihadis, they’re martyrs.

Zippster
Zippster
September 26, 2024 2:41 pm

Why We Have a Crisis of Meaning – Stephen Blackwood

### Summary In this episode of “TRIGGERnometry,” Stephen Blackwood discusses the contemporary crisis of meaning experienced in Western society. He highlights the alienation and nihilism that arise from a loss of transcendent values, particularly due to the secularization and ideological divisions in culture. Emphasizing the importance of self-transcendence and connection to higher ideals, Blackwood argues that true meaning must be derived from relationships, beauty, and purpose that extend beyond the self. The conversation also covers the role of religion and architecture in societal well-being, the impact of urbanization, and the necessity of recognizing our mortality to find meaning. Ultimately, Blackwood believes that fostering a culture that enables individuals to engage with these deeper connections is crucial for resolving the crisis of meaning. — ### Key Points by Section 1. **Living in a Meaning Crisis (0:39)** – Society is experiencing a “meaning crisis.” – Individuals feel alienated and disconnected from deeper values and purposes. 2. **What is Meaning? (2:36)** – Meaning cannot be self-generated; it requires transcendent relationships. – Victor Frankl’s concept of self-transcendence is key to understanding meaning. 3. **Ideological Nihilism (4:38)** – Nihilism leads to feelings of purposelessness and alienation. – Discussion on the lack of a “high purpose” in modern society. 4. **Losing Our Religion (6:37)** – Religion offers a framework for meaning that transcends individual existence. – Without religion, individuals struggle with their mortality and sense of purpose. 5. **Architecture Betrays Ideology (9:15)** – The importance of beauty in architecture reflects a society’s values. – Modern architecture often fails to inspire or uplift. 6. **People No Longer Sacrifice for Higher Causes (11:08)** – There is a decline in willingness to make sacrifices for greater goods. – The disconnection from significant communal or cultural pursuits. 7. **Importance of Beautiful Buildings (14:41)** – Beautiful structures connect individuals to transcendent ideals. – Historically, people built structures that reflected their humanity and aspirations. 8. **Conclusion on Meaning Crisis (discussion towards the end)** – The potential for individuals to realize their greatness requires a culture that nurtures and understands human nature. – The current state of meaninglessness calls for a shift in societal values back to those that inspire connection and self-transcendence.

—-
can’t say I agree with the idea that meaning can’t be self-generated, I would have said that’s exactly where meaning comes from but then thats a secular viewpoint not a religious viewpoint.

Roger
Roger
September 26, 2024 2:43 pm

The question is spurious.

On the contrary. It’s quite legitimate given they are public comments and she is a member of parliament who has sworn an oath of allegiance.

It goes to how she views the legitimacy of the Commonwealth of Australia.

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Zippster
Zippster
September 26, 2024 2:44 pm

United Nations JUST APPROVED the framework for a One World Government
Glenn Beck

### Summary: The video discusses the recent approval by the United Nations of a framework that some are interpreting as a step towards a “One World Government.” Glenn Beck and Justin Haskins analyze the outcomes from the UN’s Summit of the Future, which produced significant agreements aimed at increasing the UN’s power, especially in light of the upcoming 2024 U.S. presidential election. The key agreements include the “Pact for the Future,” the “Declaration on Future Generations,” and the “Global Digital Compact,” each with profound implications for global governance, environmental policy, and information control. ### Key Points: #### 1. **Introduction and Context**: – The UN approved significant proposals related to global governance. – The discussions were prompted by the COVID-19 pandemic and have been in development since 2020. – The timing is strategic, coinciding with the 2024 U.S. elections. #### 2. **Pact for the Future**: – It is a comprehensive document approved by nearly all UN member states. – Key feature: the “Emergency Platform,” initially granting broad powers to the UN Secretary-General in times of a “Global shock.” – Changes were made to the language, softening the powers of the Secretary-General and allowing for future proposals rather than immediate implementation. – This was passed by consensus, avoiding a formal vote. #### 3. **Declaration on Future Generations**: – This agreement aims to engage younger generations in global governance. – Contains idealistic goals focused on equality and combating climate change. – Seen as less objectionable due to vague language. #### 4. **Global Digital Compact**: – Viewed as the most alarming aspect of the framework. – Aims to enhance global governance over artificial intelligence and promote partnerships between governments and tech companies. – Focuses on controlling misinformation and hate speech through collaboration with media and tech companies. – There is a call for increased content moderation on social media, potentially stifling dissenting opinions. – The objective is to create a vast propaganda network promoting UN narratives while silencing opposition. #### 5. **Overall Implications**: – The agreements collectively empower the UN and similar global structures, potentially undermining national sovereignty. – Encourages the suppression of dissenting voices, particularly as it relates to free speech in public forums. – The framework is framed as a foundation for controlling information and furthering leftist agendas. – Beck suggests this pushes toward a more centralized control over communication and expression. #### 6. **Conclusion and Future Discussion**: – Beck intends to continue exploring related issues, including the governance of AI and ESG (Environmental, Social, and Governance) mandates in future discussions. This summary encapsulates the main points discussed in the video, providing a structured view of the critical takeaways regarding the newly approved UN framework.


I am really starting to hate the UN

cohenite
September 26, 2024 2:55 pm

This is a definitive vomit from numbers:

Bullshit.
Beginning his rant with “imagine” reveals how divorced he is from reality.
The Mocker has no clue.
The more Jihadis the Israelis kill, the more their morale improves.
They thrive on it, and the Israelis provide them with motivation for revenge.
It’s simple brutal stuff, and they are winning with every civilian killed.
To the Israelis they’re collateral.
To the Jihadis, they’re martyrs.

Lacking all self awareness of the intrinsic similarity between leftoids and muzzies, numbers describes the utter indifference of the muzzies to normal suffering and sensibility as long as their ego/ideology prevails, without realising he is describing leftoids as well.

If numbers were not so dumb he would be a genius.

Helen
Helen
September 26, 2024 3:15 pm

I have had an email from Senator Ralph Babet re the free speech bill. There are now only 4 days for public comment.

I would value some points I can make in my short submission. I feel if I don’t speak out, I deserve what I get.

Rabz
September 26, 2024 3:16 pm

What a joke of a sham of a clownshow – the voting turnout in my local council ward in the recent NSW council elections:

Enrolled voters: 47,423
Valid votes: 36,644
Informal/did not vote: the remainder

23% informal or didn’t bother. Entirely understandable given my local council is one of the most incompetent and corrupt in the country. Why anyone would willingly vote for such useless self aggrandizing arseholes is quite frankly inexplicable.

Rabz
September 26, 2024 3:20 pm

I would value some points I can make in my short submission

Do you want our destructive incompetent corrupt quisling governments to be “the sole source of truth”* in this country?

Government has no role in regulating free speech. The End.

*As per horse face.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 26, 2024 3:21 pm

Re the Numerical idiot at 1428, the Numbers solution for the Middle East seems to be for all Joos to line up on the execution ground to be beheaded by the noble Jihadists. (Sarcasm for the benefit of NumbNuts.)

Strangely, NumbNuts does not consider that the 7 October attacks might have “encouraged” an increase in Israeli determination with every Jew killed, raped, or kidnapped. Usually he cites a ratio of ten new combatants for each innocent killed, but not this time.

This is stuff that was considered childish rubbish in the 1960s and 1970s by people capable of independent thought, which excludes NumbNuts.

Rant over.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 26, 2024 3:32 pm
Indolent
Indolent
September 26, 2024 4:07 pm
Indolent
Indolent
September 26, 2024 4:11 pm
Rosie
Rosie
September 26, 2024 4:12 pm

It makes perfect sense for Jews, Christians Hindus etc to roll over and play dhimmi in the face of Islamic supremacy.
Long live the caliphate!

Indolent
Indolent
September 26, 2024 4:14 pm
Pogria
Pogria
September 26, 2024 4:16 pm

Indolent,
re your post about the Covid Orgy Creep being paid to push a useless drug for Monkeypox, this pic from the article says it all.

comment image

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
September 26, 2024 4:24 pm

I see Ita advertising we talk to our health professional about something that is shirley going to have a vaccine available in about 5 months. Speaking about Ita, she has so much botox or such she can hardly form words.

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Cassie of Sydney
September 26, 2024 4:25 pm

and the Israelis provide them with motivation for revenge.

Thank you for confirming your Jew hatred. It is clear, as far as you’re concerned, that Israel does not deserve to exist, that Israel deserves ongoing terrorism against its citizens, and that Israel deserved October 7, a day of unhinged savagery, when Jewish men, women and children were raped, butchered and kidnapped, over 100 of whom remain held hostage.

You’re a disgrace. I pity you.

cohenite
September 26, 2024 4:27 pm

Helen
 September 26, 2024 3:15 pm

I have had an email from Senator Ralph Babet re the free speech bill. There are now only 4 days for public comment.
I would value some points I can make in my short submission. I feel if I don’t speak out, I deserve what I get.

This bill is to all intents and purposes the same as Gillard’s. Read these:

Finkelstein, free speech and the global warming debate – On Line Opinion – 8/3/2012

Finkelstein, AGW and the Coalition – On Line Opinion – 24/7/2012

Free speech: the right to say what we want you to say – ABC News

Gillard’s proposed censorship bill was because bob brown wanted control over the AGW debate. This time albo’s censorship bill is revenge for the Voice failure.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 26, 2024 4:41 pm

Nice pic on top of this thread.

Amazing how people in the fifties dress up well for just lounging around the house.

And here it is in Sydney just twelve degrees and cold. Glad I didn’t put away my study heater last week when I thought the last of the cold would be in Tasssie, where I regretted not taking my big blue wool jumper, for it was 2 degrees one night, and my friend called me to her open verandah (brrrr) in the morning to look at Mt. Wellington with snow down to 500 metres – a pretty view but not in your dressing gown.

JC
JC
September 26, 2024 4:42 pm

Trump really has it in one when he talks about energy, and he’s talking about it quite a bit too.

The foundation of an industrial civilization boils down to one thing: energy. Every product we buy, every service we use, they all come with an energy component. Make energy cheap and abundant, add in sizeable deregulation, and you’re on the fast track to a golden age.
As it stands, achieving supercomputing and super AI, by some estimates is going to require 10 times the energy the US currently consumes. And yet, we’re still toying around with propellers on stilts, and plastic panels baking in the desert like they’ll somehow cut it. It’s like trying to power Musk’s biggest rocket ship with a few AAA batteries. The real deal is simple: cheap and endlessly abundant energy.
Re-shoring, robotic manufacturing, super AI, defense…. everything is energy.

That being said, the abortion issue is far more critical. Without a federal law protecting abortion, we’ve got nothing. 🙂

Eyrie
Eyrie
September 26, 2024 4:43 pm

If Trump gets elected, he should begin to rally support for a new global entity of free nations.

Which nations would those be Vicki? You can’t count any of those in Europe, Canada isn’t, Australia isn’t, New Zealand isn’t.
If Trump gets elected it will be an entity of ONE.

Cassie of Sydney
September 26, 2024 4:49 pm

Which nations would those be Vicki? You can’t count any of those in Europe, Canada isn’t, Australia isn’t, New Zealand isn’t.

I think Eastern Europe is okay, particularly Hungary. And Argentina look good.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
September 26, 2024 4:51 pm

I noticed an ad on the side of a bus as we drove by when out shopping yesterday. It was encouraging women to get free cervical smears for cancer. But the woman in the pic was not very feminine and deliberately so. She didn’t have a beard but she was wearing masculine clothing, with the ad clearly addressing women who thought they were men. The word woman was nowhere used, and the ‘decision’ was said to be empowering in some way.

If you have a uterus and cervix you’re a woman, I said to the side of the bus as we passed it. Stop kidding yourself you are a man.

So you’re talking to pictures on billboards now? notes Hairy. lol.
To me it is like answering back to the TV, which he has been known to do.

1735099
1735099
September 26, 2024 4:51 pm

Thank you for confirming your Jew hatred. It is clear, as far as you’re concerned, that Israel does not deserve to exist, that Israel deserves ongoing terrorism against its citizens, and that Israel deserved October 7, a day of unhinged savagery, when Jewish men, women and children were raped, butchered and kidnapped, over 100 of whom remain held hostage.

That’s called verballing.

Israel does deserve to exist.
It does not deserve ongoing terrorism against its citizens.
It did not deserve October 7.
But the behaviour of its military is ensuring that every Israeli citizen has been condemned to decades more of what is happening now.
Violence begets violence.

And you have an issue.
It’s the old hammer and nail thing.
To you, everything is about Jew hatred.
It isn’t.

Roger
Roger
September 26, 2024 4:51 pm

I have had an email from Senator Ralph Babet re the free speech bill. There are now only 4 days for public comment.

I would value some points I can make in my short submission. I feel if I don’t speak out, I deserve what I get.

Free Speech Union Australia has an online template here.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 26, 2024 4:52 pm

Reading Jonathon Dimbleby’s book on Operation Barbarossa.

“On 21st June, a Russian spy, Leopold Trepper, code named Otto, who had infiltrated the German command system in Nazi – occupied Paris reported “Wehrmacht command has completed the transfer of it’s troops to the Soviet frontier, and tomorrow, 22nd June, will suddenly attack the Soviet Union.” When he read this, Stalin wrote in the margin,”This is an English provocation. Find out who is the author of this provocation is, and punish him.”

A few hours later, the first shots were fired…(Page 130.)

Cassie of Sydney
September 26, 2024 4:53 pm

And actually, given the trajectory of the UK under Der Sturmer, who thinks kidnapped Jews held in cages are ‘sausages’, I think the residents of the Falklands might want to evaluate their relationship with the UK.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
September 26, 2024 4:54 pm

I think Eastern Europe is okay, particularly Hungary. And Argentina look good.

All places that have experienced marxism and discovered the consequences.

Roger
Roger
September 26, 2024 4:58 pm

Violence begets violence.

It’s not the Israelis who have difficulty understanding that.

Cassie of Sydney
September 26, 2024 5:00 pm

But the behaviour of its military is ensuring that every Israeli citizen has been condemned to decades more of what is happening now

Wow….you read that right. According to the unhinged mediocrity from Toowoomba, Israel and Israelis deserve punishment because of what its military is doing, which is defending Israel and Israelis. It isn’t Hamas or Hezbollah who are to blame, it’s the IDF.

I repeat, you’re a disgrace. You are a Jew hater. I pity you.

JC
JC
September 26, 2024 5:20 pm

I’ve heard some talk from two different sources about the Pager incident that indicates that the Mocker, etc. are overestimating the success of this incident.

Who were the two sources?

The communications network they’ve established over the last two decades is largely fibre-optic.

Also, fibre is essentially a landline. Would the Hez dig up roads to lay fibre every time the war moved to a different point?

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Eyrie
Eyrie
September 26, 2024 5:20 pm

I think Eastern Europe is okay, particularly Hungary. And Argentina look good.

Milei has to turn Argentina around and stay in power for long enough.
Poland is well in the grip of the EU and the Baltic chihuahas are cruising for bruising. They also aren’t exactly “free”.

1735099
1735099
September 26, 2024 5:35 pm

I have had an email from Senator Ralph Babet.

This Senator Babet?

The Senator Babet who on Christmas Day 2014 inToorak was charged with criminal damage. On 6 March 2017, a criminal damage charge was recorded but no conviction was given by the Melbourne Magistrate’s Court.He was instead ordered to participate in a diversion program.

This Senator Babet?

On 6 September 2015, he was charged with unlawful assault in South Melbourne. Babet pleaded guilty to the charges at the Melbourne Magistrates Court on 22 August 2018.

This Senator Babet?

On 8 September 2022, the United Australia Party was voluntarily deregistered by the Australian Electoral Commission. Babet stated the deregistration was made for “administrative reasons” and that he would continue to represent the deregistered party in the Senate. Babet is able to continue identifying as a United Australia Party member in the Senate, with the office of the Clerk of the Senate stating that Babet’s status as a UAP senator would not change until he advised the office otherwise.

This Senator Babet?

On 9 September 2023, Babet launched a bid in the Federal court to force the AEC to acknowledge crosses as a no vote for the Voice referendum. In 20 September 2023 Justice Steven Rares ruled in favour of the AEC on merits, and ordered Babet and the co-applicant Clive Palmer to pay the AEC’s costs.

This Senator Babet?

On 17 February 2024, Babet appeared in a photo with a member of the National Socialist Network who was performing a partial Nazi salute. Babet distanced himself from the man and told The Age “I don’t know the guy”.

This Senator Babet?

Babet attended the two week Australian Defence Force Parliamentary program in 2023, but was criticised by the Australian Defence Association for his publication of photos wearing military uniform for blurring the lines between politics and armed forces. Veterans group Australian Defence Association president said “misusing the parliamentary exchange program is disgraceful”, and that his frequent publication of military wear was “cosplaying”

This Senator Babet?

Babet was elected on 0.12% of first preference votes as the UAP’s only representative after Clive Palmer spent $100,000,000 on the campaign, Babet was the sole “success” for the UAP at the 2022 federal election .

Roger
Roger
September 26, 2024 5:36 pm

Albanese has done a triple somersault with reverse pike on negative gearing just one day after he declined to deny he’d asked Treasury to review the tax deduction.

The feedback to Labor members must have been brutal.

Rosie
Rosie
September 26, 2024 5:42 pm

Seems to me the Sunni, the Druze, the Christians of Lebanon might not be particularly enthusiastic about Hezbollah, seeing some evidence on twitter they aren’t putting up with Shia supremacy either.
And I seem to remember a war between Iran and Iraq that reputedly cost between five hundred one and a half million lives before it ended, and all for nothing.
Enough with the kill one and ten rise up nonsense, it’s absolutely vacuous.

Hezbollah said there were 3000 injured in the grim beeper attack.
What would they know?

Rosie
Rosie
September 26, 2024 5:44 pm

Argentina still has a long row to hoe to recover from their economic woes.
Still nowhere near as bad as Cuba’s cheerful squalor.

Lysander
Lysander
September 26, 2024 5:57 pm

And before PBS went fully (further) anti-semite, it had this lovely piece in July 203:

Lebanon struggles to emerge from financial crisis and government corruption | PBS News

Lebanon has become, for all intents and purposes, a failed state. Its government is rife with corruption and unable to care for its people who suffer chronic and crushing poverty from economic mismanagement and a banking collapse. 

Indolent
Indolent
September 26, 2024 5:57 pm
Indolent
Indolent
September 26, 2024 5:59 pm
Lysander
Lysander
September 26, 2024 6:05 pm

And when you take a step back and look at the Israeli, “Gazan” situation alongside Southern Lebanon, and you know Iran is fuelling this entire situation, you have to ask:

  • What does Iran really get out of all of this?

The answer is awful: Other than “for kicks,” try dead Jews, “Gazans” and Lebanese (and Syrian illegals in Lebanon). As if Iran truly gives a single shit about any of these people, period. It wants death (it doesn’t matter who), it wants instability and chaos (local preferrable, but Western university campuses will also do) and it wants Israel as a crater more than anything.

This is all about Iran’s domestic issues and power. Obviously, it detested the Abrahamic Accords because it further isolated Iran but it also knew a war would last well over a year so needed to get it started before the POTUS election got underway.

Lastly, and this is my “Indolent moment,” I wouldn’t doubt for a moment that Iran is using Israel’s attention span to ramp up its nuclear program. I’m not saying they’re near or close (as nobody can) but what a distraction squirrel! I’m sure Mossad would have this front-of-mind!

Zippster
Zippster
September 26, 2024 6:08 pm

The Anti-Woke Expert: “We Are Witnessing The Fall Of The UK & The USA!” – Konstantin Kisin

## Summary In this episode of “The Diary Of A CEO,” Konstantin Kisin, a Russian-British satirist and co-host of the podcast TRIGGERnometry, discusses the dangers of wokeness, the victim mindset, and the role of political labels in today’s society. He emphasizes that the perceived decline of Western civilization stems from internal division and cultural self-doubt, often perpetuated through a victimhood narrative and the overlooking of Western privileges. Kisin argues that ideologies like wokeness, while appearing to advocate for marginalized groups, actually harm individuals by promoting dependency on victimhood instead of resilience. He urges individuals to reclaim a sense of gratitude for Western civilization’s freedoms and successes, advocating for a focus on constructive solutions rather than divisive ideologies. ## Key Points by Section ### Intro (0:00 – 2:11) – Introduction of Konstantin Kisin and his achievements. – Overview of the main themes of the discussion, including wokeness and the victim mindset. ### Who Is Konstantin Kisin? (2:11 – 5:49) – Kisin shares his background as a Russian immigrant who grew up in the Soviet Union and experienced significant societal changes. – Discusses his motivations for engaging in public discourse and raising awareness about Western privileges. ### The Threat Coming To The Western World (5:49 – 7:33) – Kisin warns that internal cultural conflicts signal weakness to external adversaries. – He highlights how societal self-criticism undermines the values of the West. ### Are You Politically Affiliated To The Left Or Right? (7:33 – 10:07) – Kisin expresses ambivalence towards political labels, advocating for context-based viewpoints instead. – He suggests that rigid ideologies limit constructive discussions. ### People Use Politics Labelling As A Weapon (10:07 – 12:16) – Discusses how political labels can be weaponized to delegitimize opposing viewpoints. – Emphasizes the need for critical thinking beyond tribal allegiances. ### What Is Wokeism? (12:16 – 16:48) – Kisin defines wokeness as a simplification of complex issues into a hierarchy of oppression. – Argues that this ideology fosters a culture of victimhood that can harm individuals and society. ### How Victimhood Has Become Self-Harm (16:48 – 20:44) – Kisin discusses how adopting a victim mentality can lead to negative psychological effects. – Highlights the importance of promoting resilience and self-agency instead of victimhood. ### Stereotype Threat (20:44 – End) – Explains the psychological concept of stereotype threat and its impact on performance. – Discusses how societal narratives can shape individual perceptions and outcomes. – Advocates for a focus on uplifting individuals through empowerment instead of perpetuating victimhood narratives. ### Conclusion – The conversation emphasizes the need for a balanced understanding of societal issues and the importance of appreciating Western civilization’s values. – Kisin concludes by encouraging individuals to foster a sense of gratitude and seek constructive pathways for improvement rather than dwelling in a victim mindset.

Indolent
Indolent
September 26, 2024 6:12 pm
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Muddy
Muddy
September 26, 2024 6:13 pm

Response to Zulu’s 1:44pm post about the Kokoda Track:

Having attempted for many years to create a military-history based tour operation in a different part of New Guinea (controlled by the locals and fully to their benefit, with myself in a history advisory capacity only), I can attest to the myriad frustrations of establishing any enterprise in that country.

As an example, in 2022-23 I spent a great deal of time and effort trying to get a commemorative ceremony happening for the 80th anniversary of the reoccupation of Salamaua (across the Huon Gulf from Lae). I had the tentative presence at the ceremony of the Australian High Commissioner, the possible presence of a small ADF representation, and the interest of one of the two PNG-wide newspapers. It all came to nought when the provincial authorities hijacked the planning process and submitted a funding request to the Aust High Commish for many thousands of Kina. What could have been decent publicity for everyone, and a great opportunity to promote Morobe Province tourism, came to absolutely nothing.

It’s not the first time I’ve experienced this, but I’m a slow learner. Very slow.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 26, 2024 6:14 pm

Good luck trying to beat Avi up. If push comes to shove he’d defend himself most easily. Krave Maga.

Krav Maga uses practical self defence techniques against weapons, holds, grabs, and how to deal with multiple attackers whether you are standing or on the ground. 

—–

Avi:

THREATS FAIL: Videos they TRIED TO ERASE go viral!

mareeS
mareeS
September 26, 2024 6:16 pm

The thing that Numbers never mentions is: even though he was conscripted, he never had to serve in Vietnam. He could have served his time in Australia as support for regs if he had such views as he expresses here and was prepared to stand up for them.

My husband was called up in the 4th intake, served April 1966 to April 1968, well before this moaner, and he did basic training with men who were weeded out during that period into support roles because they weren’t considered up to infantry requirements. Nothing was ever said, they just went out of Singleton to somewhere else.

One who went through with my husband and served at the same time in Vietnam was the son of the then Army Minister, Sir Allen Fairhall. His number never came out of the barrel, but obviously he had to go, whether he wanted or not, just like Normie Rowe, under the “Elvis” policy. Allen Jr served in Small Ships at the same time as my husband served as a re-inforcement to 6RAR and then 2RAR, and was involved as a rifleman and forward scout in several of their well-known engagements. They remain good friends today, and even were involved in business together in later life.

Numbers disgraces himself every time he moans about his service compared to many of the men I know who went and did the job and then got on with their lives.

local oaf
September 26, 2024 6:16 pm

Hezbollocks remake of Titanic

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Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 26, 2024 6:17 pm

Doh!

….Krav

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 26, 2024 6:18 pm

The feedback to from Labor members with investment properties must have been brutal.

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Miltonf
Miltonf
September 26, 2024 6:20 pm

Numbers disgraces himself every time he moans about his service compared to many of the men I know who went and did the job and then got on with their lives.

A really nasty piece of work

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 26, 2024 6:21 pm

Rosie
 September 26, 2024 5:44 pm

Argentina still has a long row to hoe to recover from their economic woes.

Still nowhere near as bad as Cuba’s cheerful squalor.

Bwah ha ha ha ha.
Cheerful squalor!
I’d forgotten that gem from Private Spud.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 26, 2024 6:29 pm

The thing that Numbers never mentions is: even though he was conscripted, he never had to serve in Vietnam. He could have served his time in Australia as support for regs if he had such views as he expresses here and was prepared to stand up for them

Bam.

Bam.

BAM.

Right in the Miata.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 26, 2024 6:31 pm

Lysander
September 26, 2024 6:23 pm

Reply to  Steve trickler
A good vid but how far gone is Piers?
“Starmer has found the sensible centre?”
Seriously.

He’s a media whore.

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
September 26, 2024 6:36 pm

Sunlight on Brownstones, Edward Hopper, 1956
Do not like.
Technically flawed – the woman is awkwardly sitting up, while leaning back.
No, the perspective and shadows are wrong.
He’s gone nuts with the shadows and it hasn’t worked.
I’ll give it a C-.

Rosie
Rosie
September 26, 2024 6:37 pm

“This video song is spreading across the Middle East, particularly in Iraq, celebrating Israel’s strikes on Hezbollah in Lebanon. The lyrics say: “Watch how we break you now, we warned you, but you took the vow. Now you’ll learn, no turning back, no respect, dignity you lack.””
https://x.com/amjadt25/status/1839219318208303143?t=yLZ_Ft9M2M_nkglvl-hdVQ&s=19

Miltonf
Miltonf
September 26, 2024 6:40 pm

Am I correct in saying that Ireland was a constitutional monarchy and had a Governor General until 1948?

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 26, 2024 6:41 pm

God I love her voice …. I do.

Mazzy Star Fade Into You (HQ) *FLAC*

Miltonf
Miltonf
September 26, 2024 6:43 pm

1936 apparently

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 26, 2024 6:51 pm

KD at 6:29.

Bam.

Bam.

BAM.

Right in the Miata.

Mmmyes.
Rolled the dice for personal gain in the form of a free education I believe.
Reaped the benefits of that by supping at the public trough for decades.
But still sooking.

Muddy
Muddy
September 26, 2024 6:53 pm

Thanks to Indolent at the tail end of ye olde fred for the link to Revolver News’ update on the 6th Jan pipe bombs. The fact that the dinosaur media have never touched the subject when referring to the ‘insurrection’ makes me deeply, deeply, suspicious.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 26, 2024 6:58 pm

Stevo!

He covers all the bases so we don’t have to.

Agenda Free TV:

Israel Hezbollah Fighting – LIVE Breaking News Coverage (Fears of War in Lebanon)

Rosie
Rosie
September 26, 2024 7:12 pm
Cassie of Sydney
September 26, 2024 7:12 pm

The perseverant earlier….

Babet was elected on 0.12% of first preference votes as the UAP’s only representative after Clive Palmer spent $100,000,000 on the campaign, Babet was the sole “success” for the UAP at the 2022 federal election .

I note the perseverant from Toowoomba’s smear and belittling of Senator Babet.

Well Babet, in terms of first preference votes, beats Islamist Senator Fatso Payman by a wide margin, numbering some thousand. You see, whilst Babet received 4425 first preference votes, Fatso Payman only received 1681 first preference votes.

Payment was elected on 0.01 per cent of the votes cast. As the AFR wrote a few months ago, when she did the dirty on Labor, the only reason the Islamist genocidal spruiker sits sits in parliament is because she ran as number 3 on the WA Labor ticket, and then what does she do, she shits on the party that gave her the opportunity

I do agree that Fatty Palmer’s electoral track record is not great, he gifted us the bush pig from Tassie who’s like a recurring nightmare however Fatso Palmer’s attitude is that he’s got the money to burn and burn it he does. Also, if the perseverant is so worried about large amounts of dosh being thrown about at election time, he should at least have some concerns about the Teal dosh but I note how that dosh doesn’t seem to bother him because you see, at the end of the day, it’s only ever about ideology with the perseverant.

Senator Ralph Babet or the Islamist Senator Fatso Payman in parliament?

Dunno about others here but I know who I’d pick.

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Lawgi Dawes-Hall
Lawgi Dawes-Hall
September 26, 2024 7:13 pm

Hope you or someone is auditioning for the vacant DJ slot, Strickler.

Miltonf
Miltonf
September 26, 2024 7:20 pm

Babet’s doing very well. I’m glad I voted for him, and I hope he runs again.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 26, 2024 7:21 pm

Lawgi Dawes-Hall
September 26, 2024 7:13 pm

Hope you or someone is auditioning for the vacant DJ slot, Strickler.

Bloody hell. I have not heard that song in years.

Wow. Cheers.

Cassie of Sydney
September 26, 2024 7:21 pm

I have a lot of time for Senator Babet.

Miltonf
Miltonf
September 26, 2024 7:27 pm

He certainly made the wet lieborals bumingham and hume reveal themselves.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 26, 2024 7:32 pm

Cassie of Sydney
September 26, 2024 7:21 pm

I have a lot of time for Senator Babet.

—–

Check this out, Cass.

VLOG Episode 9 – Tucker In Canberra

Miltonf
Miltonf
September 26, 2024 7:33 pm

The one vicco lieiboral senator I really loathed was Mitch Fifield.

MatrixTransform
September 26, 2024 7:36 pm

Lebanon has become, for all intents and purposes, a failed state.

Palestinians did that … the poisonous feckers

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 26, 2024 7:38 pm

Since we’re doing Mazzy Star.

Mazzy Star – Tell Me Now (1995)

First track of theirs I heard, on the Batman Forever soundtrack.

Miltonf
Miltonf
September 26, 2024 7:40 pm

Fifield is actually a walking breathing example of what is wrong with modern pollimuppetts. Barker College->BA at Sydney Uni-> ‘researcher’ for Bruce Baird and so on.

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Lawgi Dawes-Hall
Lawgi Dawes-Hall
September 26, 2024 7:43 pm

Bruce of Newcastle

September 26, 2024 7:33 pm

Very unsung band.

I believe they have won more most underrated band in the world gongs than any band bar the Triffids.

Indolent
Indolent
September 26, 2024 7:53 pm
Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 26, 2024 7:54 pm

Ok, then, lets give the Triffids a bit of airplay!

The Triffids – Trick Of The Light (1988)

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 26, 2024 8:01 pm

Since I did a Mazzy Star from the Batman Forever soundtrack, I’ll indulge in an Aussie icon from the same soundtrack. Damn fine song too.

Nick Cave – There is a Light (1995)

Red Right Hand is better, by a smidgen, but only that.

132andBush
132andBush
September 26, 2024 8:03 pm

Bullshit.

Beginning his rant with “imagine” reveals how divorced he is from reality.

The Mocker has no clue.

The more Jihadis the Israelis kill, the more their morale improves.

They thrive on it, and the Israelis provide them with motivation for revenge.

It’s simple brutal stuff, and they are winning with every civilian killed.

To the Israelis they’re collateral.

To the Jihadis, they’re martyrs.

I think what you’re really trying to say is Israeli’s should all take up jobs screening movies.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 26, 2024 8:08 pm

Jordo didn’t go quiet, he sat back with respect and listened. Sh*t title of the clip.

WATCH: Netanyahu Makes Peterson Go Quiet with PROOF that Israel belongs to the Jews

Indolent
Indolent
September 26, 2024 8:14 pm
Indolent
Indolent
September 26, 2024 8:17 pm

@DrAseemMalhotra

BREAKING:

‘Many millions of people’ killed as a result of medical research fraud new film claims
• Medical journals can’t be blindly trusted according to the former editor of BMJ
• The ex-president of the Royal College of Physicians calls for an official public inquiry
• Comparison to Grenfell disaster

The global scale of lives lost from medical research fraud is exposed in a new film unveiled at a premiere screening in London’s Leicester Square on September 23rd 2024.
World-renowned cardiologist Dr Aseem Malhotra and specialist filmmaker Donal O’Neill’s new feature ‘First! Do No Pharm’ exposes the unscrupulous behaviour of the global pharmaceutical industry and hears sensational testimony from a host of industry experts.
Having previously altered the public’s perspective on both wholesale statin usage and the dangers of high sugar consumption, Dr Malhotra now explores the current state of the broader health system and the corruption within.
The feature makes sensational revelations about the pharmaceutical industry and charts Dr Malhotra’s decade-long struggle for greater transparency in medical research.
“This film is the most incendiary work I have ever completed,” says Dr Malhotra.
“It is going to make a lot of profit-hungry people in the pharmaceutical industry unhappy.
“But it is going to save lives and that is all that matters.
“We have a pandemic of misinformed doctors and misinformed and unwittingly harmed patients. “It is time to put an end to this once and for all.”
Through personal storytelling and riveting interviews of key experts around the world – including Professor Jay Bhattacharya, Dr Peter Wilmshurst, Robert F. Kennedy Jr, Professor Robert Lustig and former Editor in Chief of the British Medical Journal, Fiona Godlee – Dr Malhotra exposes a worrying narrative and underlying malfeasance within the healthcare system. He offers policy-specific solutions to reverse the damage.
Sir Richard Thompson, former president of the Royal College of Physicians, who attended the premiere said ‘that the scale of damage determines a public inquiry is due.”
“For too long doctors have had to make clinical decisions based on non-transparent data on the efficacy and side effects of drugs that are curated by the drug industry, whose basic motive is to put profits before patients.
“It can be compared with the Grenfell disaster.
“Therefore, invariably the safety and benefits of many important drugs, such as statins, are exaggerated, so that avoidable illness, and even deaths, occur from the side effects that have often been ignored or denied by the industry’
“It is time for a public inquiry to expose the murky practices of Big Pharma so that doctors can know that when they prescribe they are truly putting their patients first, rather than the financial interests of drug companies and their shareholders, and the scientists funded by them.”
The launch of all heavily hyped new drugs and their initial presentation to the public is analysed.
“We need to apply quite a big dose of scepticism to the medical literature,” Dr Fiona Godlee says in First!
Do No Pharm.
“Medical journals will publish a pharmaceutical trial and then will be paid quite large sums for providing the
pharmaceutical company with reprints of that article.
“And it’s very hard for an editor to remove that conflict when making an editorial decision.
“They know they might get a million dollars for publishing the trial and I don’t really see how you can manage that as a conflict of interest.”
Dr Peter Wilmshurst, a celebrated cardiologist and renowned medical industry whistleblower, confirms the results of such a corroded system.
“We’re talking about many millions of people killed by research fraud in medical science,” he says.

1735099
1735099
September 26, 2024 8:18 pm

The thing that Numbers never mentions is: even though he was conscripted, he never had to serve in Vietnam.

The old myth rears its woolly head.

Here’s some reading –

The Nashos War – Mark Dapin;
Australia’s Vietnam; Myth Vs History – Mark Dapin
Vietnam – The Australian War – Paul Ham
Fighting to the Finish – (The Australian Army and the Vietnam War; The Official History) – Ashley Ekins & Ian McNeill
Volunteers with a legal impediment: Australian national service and the question of overseas service in Vietnam – Ben Morris*
All of these august journals address the topic of Nashos being forced to serve in Vietnam, and all come to the same conclusion.

Nashos were treated exactly the same as regular soldiers once enlisted. Suggest you read the National Service Act 1965. A regular soldier asking for reposting to avoid operational service would have received short shrift. So did most Nashos, although if you want, I can post you the history of one who did, and how it resulted in his death on 6th June 1970.

You can always read my thesis, which involved interviews with a number of Vietnam veterans – https://sear.unisq.edu.au/52069/

Might be easier to read the abstract. Doubt you have the required concentration span to read a 30000 word thesis –

The motives and attitudes of volunteers and conscripts during the Australian military commitment to South Vietnam were examined using oral histories recorded in interviews with ex-national servicemen. Two groups of veterans were interviewed, the first comprising men who volunteered for national service using the early registration option, and the second were conscripts who had their birthdates drawn in one of the sixteen ballots conducted between 1965 and 1972. News media influence on their attitudes and decisions was also examined. Changes in the tone and content of newspaper reportage of ANZAC Day between 1962 and 2018 were identified using a succession of news archives.
The study found that there were consistent differences in options given to the conscripts depending on their corps allocations, and that a proportion of the volunteers did not understand the implications of early registration at the time. The myth of the volunteer as highlighted by Dapin and Morris, amongst others, is revisited and clarified.
Participants reported that the media treatment of the conflict did not influence attitudes and decisions prior to and during service, but it contributed to anger and bitterness post service. Reporting of the war became less supportive and more critical after 1965. Decisions made by those interviewed were essentially pragmatic and owed little to what is understood as the ANZAC tradition.

*Ben Morris was a platoon commander in 2RAR and 5RAR between 18 Jan 1967 and 9 Jan 1968.

Like me, he wrote a master’s thesis on the issue, and came to the same conclusions I did.

You haven’t a clue, but that’s par for the course on this site.

Muddy
Muddy
September 26, 2024 8:20 pm

Random music I just stumbled upon on Youtube: Lowertown – Best Person You Know.
(Romantic).

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Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 26, 2024 8:26 pm

Random music

Listening to the track now as I type…

Lowertown – Best Person You Know (2020)

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 26, 2024 8:32 pm
Jock
Jock
September 26, 2024 8:33 pm

Something that the MSM hasn’t mentioned is that elbow sold his investment properties in the last year. I think two but maybe more. THEN his government starts thinking about changing the cgt rate and the deduction for interest on debt raised to fund an investment property. Negative gearing is a misnomer. If I did this with shares in my company asic would take me to court and it would be Insider trading!! Why do we let elbow away with this. How many other labor MPs gave done the same. Or even treasury bureacrats?? The national ICAC needs to investigate.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
September 26, 2024 8:38 pm

Still nowhere near as bad as Cuba’s cheerful squalor.

Cuba’s cheerful squalor is getting steadily less cheerful. I have friends there who are suffering from the government’s incompetence.

Cassie of Sydney
September 26, 2024 8:43 pm

You haven’t a clue, but that’s par for the course on this site.

Oh Maree does have a clue, unlike you, you nasty old perseverant.

Further to ‘this site’, I’m curious, why are you here? I recall you describing a few years ago, on your own blog, how ‘this site’ is a nest, a haven, a sanctuary for the far-right, for the neo-Nazis….and yet….and yet….you’re here desperate to post your drivel.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 26, 2024 8:43 pm

Liability Bob, emphasis mine:

A regular soldier asking for reposting to avoid operational service would have received short shrift

But you didn’t have the bottle for that.

Still snivelling, after all these years.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 26, 2024 8:44 pm
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 26, 2024 8:44 pm

Terence Kelly: Decision whether to cut jail term of Cleo Smith’s kidnapper to be handed down MondayEmily MoultonThe West Australian
Thu, 26 September 2024 5:47PM

A decision on a bid by Terence Kelly — who abducted Cleo Smith — to have his prison sentence slashed over claims the judge who jailed him made a series of errors is expected to be handed down next week.
Kelly was jailed for more than 13 years for snatching the then four-year-old from her family’s tent at a Carnarvon campsite then holding her captive for almost three weeks in 2021.
But earlier this year, the 37-year-old appealed against the jail term arguing it was manifestly excessive because his offending was not in the worst category.
He also claimed the sentencing judge erred by concluding his use of methamphetamine played a part in his decision to snatch Cleo.
In her sentencing remarks, District Court Chief Judge Julie Wager said Kelly’s drug use, coupled with his complex personality issues, mental impairments and neuropsychological conditions, had played a “significant role”.
But during his appeal hearing in February, Kelly’s lawyer, barrister Julie Condon KC, argued Judge Wager was wrong to find the drug use had “tipped him over the balance” into taking Cleo and keeping her.

This piece of sh!t should have been locked up, and the key thrown into the Swan River…

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 26, 2024 8:50 pm

The old myth rears its woolly head.

What, that there was an option to National Service, in the form of six years part time service in the Citizen’s Military Forces?

Lawgi Dawes-Hall
Lawgi Dawes-Hall
September 26, 2024 9:00 pm

Random music I just stumbled upon on Youtube

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Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 26, 2024 9:01 pm

Back in the day when black and white people had a ball together. Today the race card is played for the sheep at the first opportunity.

Van McCoy – The Hustle (Official Music Video) [HD]

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mareeS
mareeS
September 26, 2024 9:25 pm

Numbers PhD,

Don’t be an obfuscating idiot. What young man of that era would put himself through the humiliation of begging off, besides the Simon Townsends who went the “conscientious objector” path? Mostly they were weeded out during basic training by their corporals, case in point: a young man in my husband’s intake, who slept in the next bunk, cried himself to sleep each night the first week and was gone the next. My husband and the others never asked.

My husband was a newspaper artist and surfer when he was called up. He was hardly typical soldier material, but he went for it, being a very determined person, and has not regretted a single moment of that time. He says he came out a better person and has lifelong friends who are still like brothers. (Do you?)

The corporals and NCOs did the weeding out. One friend of ours, who ended up RSM of the Army, explained the process, which was actually not brutal or publicly shameful, in which they were moved into other corps after basic training, such as catering or admin.

Basically, they did not want people in forward units who could not be depended on to be rock solid.

We also have friends who obtained medical exemptions from the call-up through connections associated with their sporting careers.

My own brother joined the RAAF as a cadet engineer in 1967 because he didn’t want to be called up, and had a 30yr career there.

You are not a victim of conscription, you have just made it so.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 26, 2024 9:27 pm

You are not a victim of conscription, you have just made it so.

*thunderous applause*

cohenite
September 26, 2024 9:37 pm

You haven’t a clue, but that’s par for the course on this site.

That’s certainly the case since you arrived.

Frank
Frank
September 26, 2024 9:42 pm

You can always read my thesis

No, I don’t think I will. You know who else has a thesis online. Michelle Obama, that’s who. You might like to read hers, let us know how you get on.

Springtime. The turd blossoms are in full bloom apparently.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 26, 2024 9:45 pm

+Any, “Slainte” to all you mob. I am in my library, I have a decanter of good single malt, a comfortable chair and some excellent reading. Good night to you all.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
September 26, 2024 9:59 pm

Their ABC finally finds some political racism it can pump some oxygen into hurrah!
Stimulus- one poster sabotaged with suspiciously pretty handwriting
Mobilised- aforementioned ABC which stirred up the Victorian Electoral Commission and the office of the Local Government Inspectorate (for no comment), Victoria Police (“taking this racially motivated crime very seriously”), Osmond Chiu from Per Capita, ANU’s Professor Mark Chou, Mizz Licia Heath from “Women For Election”, and of course Mizz Singh who knows like totally for certain that “it’s a message meant to intimidate and spread fear”.
Well, my bullsh*t radar is piqued… a very long message, neat handwriting, reasonably consistent sizing… done with plenty of leisure.
With an Artliner 90 at the very biggest, wot no rattle can? -impossible to read from a car.
None of the juvenile eyebrows, moustache or bindi dots you’d expect from the truly disrespectful.
…yep, false flag for sure.
Great coverage for the price of a $5.95 pen, she’s a lock for election. You’re about to get lotsa diversity and tolerance workshopping in return for your rates payments, good and hard!

Indolent
Indolent
September 26, 2024 10:08 pm

Dr. John Campbell interview with Major Tom Havilland

Peoples survey

Digger
Digger
September 26, 2024 10:16 pm

Don’t be an obfuscating idiot. What young man of that era would put himself through the humiliation of begging off, besides the Simon Townsends who went the “conscientious objector” path? the humiliation of begging off, besides the Simon Townsends who went the “conscientious objector” path?

It is obvious that variations in the events that led to people ending up in the ADF military response in Vietnam differ within units and individuals.

My experience was polar opposite to any bitching about going or equally after we returned. I was the youngest Clearance Diver of the 8 x 6 man teams that served in Vietnam from Feb 1967 to May 1971 and I think I was roundly disliked by many who didn’t make it. The fact that so many more senior (time served) CD’s weren’t selected pissed them off when I was selected within a few months of qualifying.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 26, 2024 11:49 pm
Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 26, 2024 11:55 pm

Whoopi Goldberg ( not her real name …. have fun finding out ) just gets uglier as each day passes. Anyone that watches the View is a d*ckhead.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 27, 2024 12:13 am
Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 27, 2024 12:34 am

Much respect to Kirk. He’s a factoid machine.

Charlie Kirk Vs Liberal Students Highlight Reel

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 27, 2024 2:07 am

Where’s NFA?
I miss him (her?).
Hope he / she / ze isn’t banned as well.

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Tom
Tom
September 27, 2024 4:00 am
Tom
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September 27, 2024 4:01 am
Tom
Tom
September 27, 2024 4:01 am
Tom
Tom
September 27, 2024 4:02 am
Tom
Tom
September 27, 2024 4:03 am
Tom
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Tom
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Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 27, 2024 4:14 am

Mum is in this boat. I shall watch in full.

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In this week’s episode of The Dr. Ardis Show, Dr. Bryan Ardis presents a comprehensive guide on how to beat arthritis, a condition that affects over 55 million Americans. Dr. Ardis dives deep into the different forms of arthritis, such as rheumatoid arthritis and osteoarthritis, and exposes the often-overlooked, severe side effects of commonly prescribed medications.

The Dr. Ardis Show | How to Beat Arthritis | Episode 08.14.2024

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
September 27, 2024 4:31 am

“New chair of the National Museum council Clare Wright supports truth-telling in Australian history”.

Perhaps somebody can post the full article from the Oz. The Voice may have been defeated but the march through the institutions continues.

KevinM
KevinM
September 27, 2024 4:50 am

A good wife will wait up for her husband, no matter what time he comes home.

wife
KevinM
KevinM
September 27, 2024 4:53 am

The original ‘ROSI’?
This time with the model and creator of the painting.

rosi
KevinM
KevinM
September 27, 2024 4:58 am

I mentioned this engine in passing a few days ago in connection with the bicycle speed record.

Here is the steam engine employed.

Notice how small it is with no gearbox needed.
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Presented for your consideration is this Stanley Steam engine. In 1906, a production Stanley Steamer was the first vehicle to reach 127mph. This record for steam propelled speed was held for 103 years, til another steam powered rig broke it in 2009.

The Stanley brothers made cars with aluminum bodies and later, tubular steel frames-before 1920.

Efficient and safe, the Stanley Steamer had no neutral, no clutch or transmission because the broad torque curve and four power strokes per 360 degrees of crank rotation (like a gas 8 cylinder) provided by its double acting two cylinder engine meant it didn’t need one. 

Engine power was routed directly to the rear differential. Also of note is that there was never a single documented case of a Stanley Steamer boiler exploding. Each one was wrapped in three layers of piano wire; tested to twice its nominal 600PSI operating pressure at the factory before being installed. 

A combination of ICE electric starting and increased power output, and the Stanley brothers’ inability to garner sufficient advertising and marketing momentum while mandating only 1000 cars a year be made, meant that internal combustion engines took over. Funny how it took Mercedes Benz over a thousand cubic inches of four banger to equal on the track, what the

Stanley did with just 20 rated horsepower and two 4 inch bore x 5 inch stroke cylinders.

However, looking at this kerosene burning design, it could be a very effective machine with modern computer controls. It’s much easier to control fuel combustion in a continuous Bunsen burner style boiler than it is with the continuously variable demands of what goes on inside a piston engine.

A modern, steam powered vehicle like this could be a compelling option.

Bourne1879
Bourne1879
September 27, 2024 5:00 am

Fans of Spectator magazine might want to look at the article at Conservative Woman about its new editor UK Michael Gove.
A far from complimentary assessment of his suitability in relation to his part in Covid lockdowns etc.
I suspect Rowan Dean might not be too impressed with him either in view of Rowan being at the forefront of writing and speaking against Covid policies in Australia.

Beertruk
September 27, 2024 5:04 am

Bourne1879
September 27, 2024 4:31 am

Here you go Matey:
New chair of the National Museum council Clare Wright supports truth-telling in Australian history

Caroline Overington
27 Sep 2024

The National Museum of Australia’s new council chair, Clare Wright, took an activist position during the voice referendum last year, and she’s not sorry.

“Yes, I became an activist,” she says. “I took an active role in a political campaign that was important to me. I thought constantly during that campaign of what it would mean to my yapa (sister) and the children and grandchildren of the Yolngu people to have a voice to parliament.”

Wright is not Indigenous, but she says she was “adopted” into the Yolngu in northeast Arnhem Land in 2010, by Valerie Ganambarr, who was the fourth and youngest tribal wife of a former Australian of the Year, Yunupingu.

Wright was living on community at the time, with her then husband Damien Wright, who is a craftsman and furniture maker, and their three children. He had been invited to explore the possibilities of a timber mill.

“If you are on community for any length of time, essentially you need to be adopted by somebody, because you don’t make sense otherwise,” Wright says.

“Once you are adopted, you are related to everybody, and suddenly everybody you speak to knows what kinship name to call you. (Valerie) said: “You call meyapa – sister. I call you yapa, and your children I call waku, and you call my children waku’.”

Wright ultimately made her home back in Melbourne, but she has returned to the Yirrkala community many times over the past decade, while writing her latest book, Naku Dharuk The Bark Petitions (Text Publishing).

Wright says Arts Minister Tony Burke asked her to join the museum council’s board two years ago because he “thought it was crazy that the board of the national museum” did not include a historian. Last month she became the first female chair of the council. The new director, Katherine McMahon, is also female, as are seven of the nine council members.

Wright says she supports the Albanese government’s national cultural policy, First Nations First, and rejects the idea that history either can or should be neutral, saying: “It’s always going to be about who gets to write it.”

She is alive to the debate about “black armband history” which former prime minister John Howard referenced during his Sir Robert Menzies oration in 1996 (Mr Howard said he wanted to ensure “that our history as a nation is not written definitively by those who take the view that Australians should apologise for most of it”.)

Wright says she is committed to “truth-telling” in history, adding: “If we don’t tell the whole story, it’s like a family pretending that everybody is doing well … ­nobody’s unemployed, nobody’s unwell, nobody’s divorced, nobody has jealousies and rivalries, we’re just all courageous and harmonious and perfect. Show me that family, and I’ll show you a family that is probably deeply dysfunctional and certainly in denial. It’s the same with history. We have to tell the whole story, even if it’s uncomfortable.”

Wright says “history doesn’t have to be triumphalist and celebratory all the time” and she believes that the museum “has tremendous capacity to lead the way that the nation’s story is told and understood”.

“Most people probably think of a museum as a place where they go to look at dinosaurs, and kids run around and push buttons. We’ve got plenty of buttons to be pushed, but I think of a museum as a place that can shape the way a nation understands itself and its past, and therefore its future,” she says.

“Truth-telling is not always comfortable, and people are going to have to be uncomfortable. There are hard truths to swallow (but) you have to be able to talk about the things that, from time to time, are tricky, and always have been. As anyone in a marriage will know, if you are going to reconcile differences, you have to dig back over old wounds and open them up and have a proper look at them.”

As to recent history, she was dismayed by Peter Dutton’s stance on the voice (she was involved in the creation of the You’re The Voice TV commercial, featuring John Farnham’s song) saying “instead of, ‘if you don’t know, vote no’ why not say, if you don’t know, read a book, or if you don’t know, find out. If you don’t know, educate yourself, because there’s plenty (of information) out there.

“Once there was no bipartisan support, it (the voice) did not have a hope. But over six million Australians still voted yes. And that is ultimately a cause for hope.”

Caroline Overington
Literary Editor

FMD.

‘…and rejects the idea that history either can or should be neutral, saying: “It’s always going to be about who gets to write it.”…’

I will take written factual accounts over ‘stories my nana told me’ any day.

Sadly I don’t have KD or Sancho’s ability’s to add sarcastic commentary to the op-ed.

Ps: Be interesting to hear Jacinta Price, Anthony Dixon or Warren Mundine’s opinion on this.

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Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 27, 2024 5:20 am

Dr. Ardis is a Messenger from GOD.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 27, 2024 5:42 am
Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 27, 2024 5:44 am

In this week’s episode of The Dr. Ardis Show, Dr. Bryan Ardis explores the unsettling side effects of GLP-1 drugs, a popular class of medications used for weight loss, diabetes, and heart disease. These drugs, including Ozempic, Wegovy, and Trulicity, have recently been associated with vivid and terrifying nightmares, impacting the mental and physical well-being of those who use them.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
September 27, 2024 6:13 am

Going to sleep. Cheers all.

1735099
1735099
September 27, 2024 6:21 am

It is obvious that variations in the events that led to people ending up in the ADF military response in Vietnam differ within units and individuals.

Absolutely.
?
This was what the interviews revealed.
There were some consistent influences, however.
The most insistent of these was infantry manpower requirements which drove both postings to infantry after corps training, and posting to Vietnam once trained.
There was little variation about how infantry soldiers were treated.

On the other hand, signallers, RAOC people and RAEME people were often given choices about operational service.

Beertruk
September 27, 2024 6:26 am

Today’s Tele:

WONG SIGNS US UP TO CEASEFIRE PLEA

CLARE ARMSTRONG – NATIONAL POLITICAL EDITOR

Australia has land and air defence personnel ready to help evacuate its citizens from Lebanon if an operation is ordered, as the federal government joins international calls for a ceasefire between Israel and Hezbollah.

Foreign Minister Penny Wong yesterday confirmed “contingency” plans were in place, but any evacuation would not be able to accommodate all of the estimated 15,000 to 30,000 Australian citizens and permanent residents currently in Lebanon.

“I again urge Australians in Lebanon to leave now,” she said. “Please take the first option you can to leave.”

Commercial flights are still operating from Beirut, but governments around the world are preparing for possible evacuations via Cyprus if the security situation deteriorates further and airport routes cease to operate.

More than 600 people have been killed in air strikes on southern and eastern Lebanon this week, while Hezbollah has launched dozens of attacks on Israel, including a ballistic missile which was intercepted as it neared Tel Aviv on Wednesday.

In a joint statement with the US, Canada, Europe, UK, Japan, Saudia Arabia, Qatar and the United Arab Emirates, Australia yesterday called for an “immediate 21-day ceasefire across the Lebanon-Israel border” in order for a diplomatic settlement to be reached.

“The situation between Lebanon and Israel since October 8th, 2023, is intolerable and presents an unacceptable risk of a broader regional escalation,” the statement said.

“This is in nobody’s interest, neither of the people of Israel nor of the people of Lebanon.

“It is time to conclude a diplomatic settlement that enables civilians on both sides of the border to return to their homes in safety.”

Ms Wong, who is in New York for the UN General Assembly, said Lebanese citizens “cannot be made to pay the price of defeating Hezbollah”.

“The global community has made clear that this destructive cycle must stop,” she said.

“What has happened in recent days only makes an immediate ceasefire in Gaza even more urgent.

“I say it again, Lebanon cannot become the next Gaza.”

Opposition Leader Peter Dutton yesterday launched a blistering attack on Ms Wong and Anthony Albanese over the government’s response to the Gaza war, accusing Labor of losing its “moral compass”.

“Penny Wong … and Anthony Albanese are still in their own minds, living back in the ’80s when they were marching on university campuses, on these left-wing causes,” he said.

Coalition foreign affairs spokesman Simon Birmingham said the joint statement which Australia signed on to rightly sought to avoid an escalation of the conflict on the Israel-Lebanon border.

“Acceptance of it, especially by Hezbollah, would be a significant breakthrough,” he said. “Lebanese authorities have for too long stood by as Hezbollah has acted in breach of UN Security Council Resolution 1701, which was meant to keep Hezbollah away from southern Lebanon and Israel’s border.”

World Pages 24-25

Wong Chap and Anal , you are retards.
Just get out of the way and let the Israelis send Hamarse and Hezbollocks to oblivion.
In a just world, the world would be helping the Israelis to achieve that aim.

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Miltonf
Miltonf
September 27, 2024 6:26 am
shatterzzz
September 27, 2024 6:33 am

Been a month today since my Prostate removal/Cancer operation .. Feeling wonderful and back to bike riding daily .. Not much improvement in the ”leakage” dept., unfortunately, but thru trial & error came up with a coupla methods that make it all bearable and keep me & the bed “dry” .. Not a serious prob during the day but nights can be annoying .. Does not like me lying flat …… duuuh ..
Still, better than the alternative cos without the op I’d of been dead within a month theytell me .. renal failure..!.. so the Cancer was the least of my problems .. LOL!
As for the Cancer side haven’t heard a thing back .. Tho , at the time, they said, it was benign and the main reason they took it out, instead of later on , was cos it was close to the Prostate & they were in there, anyway ..!
I can understand the nurses and their pay claims better cos I wouldn’t appreciate having to look after someone even with my mild “leakage” who’s suffering from dementia or something that meant they can’t help themselves .. it’s a 24/7 condition …..

shatterzzz
September 27, 2024 6:38 am

“You could be forgiven for wondering if Penny Wong was the Foreign Minister for the Middle East, given how much time she spends lecturing Israel.”
Sharri Markson hits the”plenty wrong” nail on the head … perfectly .! 15/10

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1735099
1735099
September 27, 2024 6:39 am

Diogenes was asking for my solution to the tragedy unfolding in the Middle East

Because I’m a generous and honest individual, I’ll oblige.

The Security Council needs to establish a United Nations Emergency Force (UNEF) to separate Hezbollah, Hamas and IDF along the Gaza and Lebanon frontiers. This force needs to be substantial, multi-national, and adequately resourced

The establishment of more settler communities on the West Bank needs to be prevented, by military force if necessary. The UNEF should be employed to manage this.

Free and fair elections should be held in Palestine, overseen by the UN, much as were conducted in Timor-Leste.

Israel should call an immediate election to give Netanyahu an opportunity to discover whether he is supported by the population, or in power simply because the extremists in the Israeli Coalition keep him there.

Hamas needs to release all hostages, and Israel should release all Hamas and Hezbollah prisioners.

It will never happen, of course, so Israel’s whack-a-mole tactics will continue and hundreds will die daily.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 27, 2024 6:43 am

It’s a mystery!

Urgent warning as Britain is paying the highest electricity prices in the world (26 Sep)

British businesses are paying the highest electricity prices in the developed world, government figures show.

In only five years the cost of powering UK industry has rocketed by 124 percent, with prices almost 50 percent higher than Germany and France. …

The figures show industrial users in the UK paid 25.85p per kilowatt hour last year. Five years ago the price was 10.43p. …

Renewables, mainly wind and solar power, now make up more than half of the UK’s energy mix, according to Government statistics.

Weird huh that what Bowen says is the cheapest form of energy causes the punters to have to pay the highest electricity price in the world. And that France with all those nuclear power stations is much cheaper.

Beertruk
September 27, 2024 6:43 am

And now this bollocks…

Today’s Tele:

NO VOICE, IT’S TIME TO TALK TREATY

MADELEINE BOWER
27 Sep 2024

Three commissioners have been appointed by the Minns government to conduct a year-long “listening tour” to work out how to create a state Indigenous treaty process, despite the failure of the Indigenous Voice to Parliament referendum.

The new commissioners announced yesterday will be tasked with travelling across NSW to see whether Indigenous communities even want a treaty and, if so, what it would look like and what the process would be.

It comes after the referendum on a Voice to Parliament spectacularly failed, with the nation voting against the formation of a constitutionally recognised Indigenous body to give advice to parliament.

The move to establish a state Indigenous treaty process was a promise made by Premier Chris Minns prior to the 2023 election.

The new commissioners will travel to Indigenous communities across the state, from metropolitan Sydney to the most remote bush communities, before delivering a report on their findings to the NSW government.

Indigenous former senator Aden Ridgeway has been appointed as one of the three commissioners along with current Victorian Commissioner for LGBTIQ Communities academic Todd Fernando and Koori Mail newspaper editor Naomi Moran.

More than $5m was allocated in the Minns government’s 2023 budget for the creation of an Indigenous treaty.

The salaries of the new commissioners, appointed for two-year terms, will come directly from this pool of money, although their salaries have not been released publicly.

The first act of the new commissioners will be to develop a detailed consultation plan, with the consultations to commence in 2025 and run over a 12-month period.

The Minns government has warned a treaty and agreement-making process would be both complicated and time-consuming, and has warned it would not rush the process.

NSW Aboriginal Affairs and Treaty Minister David Harris said the appointment of the commissioners was central to the process of listening to Aboriginal people about what a treaty should look like.

“The commissioners have been appointed following a rigorous process that attracted strong candidates,” Mr Harris said. “We get better outcomes when we listen to the needs of Aboriginal people and communities.

“We must ensure Aboriginal people have a direct say on matters that affect them.”

Victoria was the first state to introduce legal frameworks for an Indigenous treaty in 2018, with Queensland, Tasmania, the ACT and Northern Territory also looking at establishing their own treaties.

The Australian Human Rights Commission welcomed the appointments with Indigenous Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Social Justice Commissioner Katie Kiss saying: “It (treaty and truth-telling) has the potential to set a solid foundation for the future, based on recognition and respect.”

Editorial page 72

Rosie
Rosie
September 27, 2024 6:44 am

Question.
If ten new jihadis pop up every time one is killed how come this is happening in southern Lebanon?

https://x.com/elly_bar/status/1838260304846950526?t=B7njAdIdNhKHjm6fz_99PQ&s=19

Bungonia bee
Bungonia bee
September 27, 2024 6:54 am

New York Mayor Adams dared to speak out against illegals so they are now after him big time. It’s probably intended as a warning to others as well. Then there is the possibility that the October Surprise will be either Bird Flu or Putin lobbing a nuke back at Ukraine. We do indeed live in interesting times.
However, we do not need to put up with Monty or Numbers in addition to the other negatives in daily life.
They belong to you, DB.

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1735099
1735099
September 27, 2024 6:55 am

The corporals and NCOs did the weeding out.

Rubbish. They were too busy keeping up with training requirements. My experience was that very little notes were made on individual recruits.

I have my file which revealed only two comments. One was “Good in bush” and the other was “Quiet conscientious soldier”.

One friend of ours, who ended up RSM of the Army, explained the process, which was actually not brutal or publicly shameful, in which they were moved into other corps after basic training, such as catering or admin.

Again, not accurate. My interviews revealed that the process varied substantially across the three RTBs and became less brutal as the political context changed. There was brutality, but generally it was laughed at. Ridicule was always the best option, but there were a few NCOs who were so thick they weren’t even aware that they were being sent up.

Basically, they did not want people in forward units who could not be depended on to be rock solid.

Really? I ended up in a “forward unit” (whatever that means), and I was certainly not rock solid with army values. What we were rock solid about was looking after each other. We were fighting for ourselves, not for the army or the country. Those bonds continue.

Beertruk
September 27, 2024 6:59 am

Today’s Tele Editorial:

WE VOTED NO BUT YES IS HERE

27 Sep 2024

Australians spent a lot of time and energy making a decision on Labor’s proposed Indigenous Voice to Parliament.

Australians also spent many millions of dollars that could otherwise have been directed at pressing matters of debt and post-Covid recovery.

But put financial considerations aside for the moment and review how that entire campaign for the Voice worked out.

Initially, support for the Voice to Parliament ran at about 60 per cent. Australians were obviously very open to the idea of formalising our approach to reconciliation by adding an Aboriginal presence to our federal parliament.

But opposition to the idea grew as proponents of the Yes vote –notably including Prime Minister Anthony Albanese – failed to make their case.

Gradually, across several months, the momentum swung to the No campaign.

And when the vote was held last year, No prevailed in an absolute landslide. Australians of all backgrounds, Aboriginal Australians to the fore, made their feelings known.

They did not want the reconciliation process to be downgraded by political incorporation. But look at what we are now dealing with.

Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Social Justice Commissioner Katie Kiss yesterday welcomed the appointment of NSW Treaty commissioners.

“These appointments are a milestone in the beginning of the truth and treaty process in NSW,” Commissioner Kiss said.

“I congratulate the NSW government in taking this crucial step and working with the community towards self-determination and healing.”

Wait just a second. Does anyone remember voting for this? When was polling day? Who broadcast the debates? “Treaty and truth-telling,” Kiss continued, is “about reframing and repairing relationships.

It has the potential to set a solid foundation for the future, based on recognition and respect.”

Except any respect for Australian voters or Australian democracy. Their self-determination is discarded.

Pogria
Pogria
September 27, 2024 7:06 am

China wants dominance in the Pacific.
It’s brand new, Nuclear attack sub has sunk before its test run. haw!

https://redstate.com/wardclark/2024/09/26/chinas-latest-nuclear-attack-submarine-sank-alongside-the-pier-months-ago-n2179821

Cassie of Sydney
September 27, 2024 7:07 am

I see the old, rancid, perseverant Jew hater is up early. His comment above is sourced straight from the Protocols, blaming those pesky Jews for all the world’s problems. He doesn’t blame Hamas for what’s going on, despite years of rockets fired at Israel, despite Hamas’s attacks on October 7 and the mass rapes, murders and kidnappings that ensued, he doesn’t blame Hezbollah for what’s going on, golly gosh no, the old, rancid, perseverant Jew hater blames those pesky Jews for the world’s woes because don’t you know, it isn’t Hamas’ fault, it’s isn’t Hezbollah’s fault, it’s ALL Bibi’s fault, it’s ALL Israel’s fault.

Why don’t those pesky Jews just back their bags and leave? From the river to the sea, Palestine will be Jew free!

Methinks we should pity the old, rancid, perseverant Jew hater.

Cassie of Sydney
September 27, 2024 7:09 am

The Jew hater from Toowoomba is a comedian, he just happens to be a very bad one.

1735099
1735099
September 27, 2024 7:10 am

Digger at 10:16pm –

The fact that so many more senior (time served) CD’s weren’t selected pissed them off when I was selected within a few months of qualifying.

Same applied to the Chalkies (Nashos posted to Education Corps and sent to PNG to teach the pacific Islands Regiment).

Once posted, they were promoted straight to sergeant which pissed of the Regs no end.

The resentment didn’t last, as the Regs soon understood that the teachers were doing a great job, and a peaceful transition to PNG independence was one of the outcomes.

The Chalkies taught the PIR that they were no longer members of a tribe, but soldiers loyal to a nation.

I recommend Daryl Dymock’s The Chalkies. It’s a great read, and explains the history and record of RAAEC in PNG. It also reminds me of what I missed out on, as my corps preference was Education.

Darryl and I went through rookies together at Singleton in 1969, and I caught up with him last year after a gap of fifty years.

Weirdly, I discovered that he taught my wife Year 10 history at Herberton in 1968, the year before he was enlisted.

Darryl’s book – https://scholarly.info/book/the-chalkies-educating-an-army-for-independence/

Bungonia Bee
Bungonia Bee
September 27, 2024 7:13 am

My favourite Brit TV lady is Fiona Bruce of Antiques Roadshow. I also like Claudia Hammond of the BBC’s Health Report. She’s brisk and business-like but sounds like a nice person. However the show itself this week descended into farcical covid virus, climate change and tick-related epidemic scare stories. This was mainly due to her male co-host.

He went on a walk around a park in London with another lady to assess the presence of ticks in the undergrowth, and the reason for this interest in ticks was because of their potential to spread disease, like the deadly Crimean-Congo Haemorrhagic Fever. The increase in ticks is of course due to “climate change”. Not a word about the influx of Africans. The ticks don’t generate the virus themselves, they have to pick it up from a person.

The show also carried water for the CCP by reintroducing the “animal origin” argument about the famous COVID19 virus. A lengthy report said that a lot of work had been done tracing viral origins!

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Cassie of Sydney
September 27, 2024 7:19 am

Yarden Bibas, husband of Shiri, father of Ariel and Kfir, all taken hostage by Nazi Gazans on October 7, was last seen held captive in a cage.

Yet according to the old, filthy, rancid, perpetually farting, nasty perseverant Jew hater from Toowoomba, who’s reappeared here like some gothic nightmare from an Edgar Allan Poe novel, the fault doesn’t lie with the people who kidnapped the Bibas family, the fault doesn’t like with those who put Yarden in a cage…..oh no…….it’s Yarden’s fault, it’s Shiri’s fault, it’s Ariel’s fauilt and it’s Kfir’s fault that they were kidnapped and that they’re now probably dead.

I think the old, filthy, rancid, perpetually farting, nasty perseverant Jew hater from Toowoomba is an obscenity.

shatterzzz
September 27, 2024 7:29 am

System upgrade .. LOL!

HadB
Miltonf
Miltonf
September 27, 2024 7:31 am

The thing about the trolls is you know what their take on almost any current affair will be but that take usually served up in a condescending, spiteful fashion.

132andBush
132andBush
September 27, 2024 7:31 am

You beat me to it, Cassie.

One thing I’d like Bob to account for in his boilerplate response is the Muslim propensity to want to either kill all Jews or blame them for everything that goes wrong in their world.
It’s not some “radical minority” either, those poll’s of Palestinians since Oct 7th show overwhelming support for what happened, maybe support is dropping off a touch now though. Too bad, so sad.

Indolent
Indolent
September 27, 2024 7:34 am

@JesseKellyDC

The DOJ has so destroyed the trust of the American people that they can indict the Democrat mayor of Democrat-run New York and most of us are all, “Yeah, this is all revenge for something. Wonder what the real story is.”

That goes beyond this story. That’s a national crisis.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 27, 2024 7:35 am

China wants dominance in the Pacific.

It’s brand new, Nuclear attack sub has sunk

A lot of other problems are beneath the surface too.

China Goes “All Out”As Xi Vows Fiscal Stimulus To Save Private Economy, Stabilize Real Estate And Boost Stock Markets (27 Sep)

China extended its stimulus barrage for the third day in a row, and vowed even more support including a pledge to intensify fiscal support for the world’s second-largest economy, as well as press speculation of 1 trillion renminbi of bank injections.

China vowed to save the private economy, stabilize its property sector from further slumping, boost its stock markets and ensure necessary fiscal expenditures, according to the readout from a Politburo meeting on Thursday.

“It is necessary to help enterprises tide over difficulties,” said the readout, which was released just after 1pm.

The top decision-making meeting, which was chaired by President Xi Jinping, came after financial authorities rolled out a raft of stimulus measures on Tuesday.

Having to bail out banks is never a good sign.

Indolent
Indolent
September 27, 2024 7:35 am

@EndWokeness

BREAKING: Non-citizen discovers he is a registered voter in Maricopa County, AZ.

The county is refusing to explain how.

Are there more? They won’t say.

Cassie of Sydney
September 27, 2024 7:36 am

The Oz has a piece up saying that the Coalition is to say ‘no’ to Labor’s misinformation bill’.
What? The Coalition has found some spine?

1735099
1735099
September 27, 2024 7:37 am

Maree at 9:25 calls me “Ph D”.

Hilarious. I don’t have a Ph D.

I have a masters (on top of my B Ed, B A and *CPOH). At age 75 when I started, I had problems finding an institution and supervisor for my research.

Biggest issue was getting ethical approval from DVA who obfuscated for twelve months. Believe it or not, they have a committee who meet at great taxpayer expense to rule on research with veterans. Eventually I told them to go to buggery, and secured ethical approval from the uni.

Fortunately I came across an Afghanistan veteran (Army Reserve Major) who was interested, and he came on board. I had a second supervisor who is a journalist. Hence the examination of the effect of media treatment on the Nashos in the thesis.

i ended up getting “With Distinction ” for my paper, and am encouraged to submit a Ph D proposal looking at the experiences of the forty thousand Nashos who didn’t go to Vietnam and have been relegated to the detritus of our military history.

They get SFA to compensate for the stolen two years of their lives. No gold card, no recognition, and one of them I was talking to the other day described them as “anomalies”.
pretty apt…..

*Graduate diploma in the education of children with cerebral palsy and orthopaedic handicaps.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 27, 2024 7:37 am

I was certainly not rock solid with army values

Because for the first (and only) time in your life, you were part of something that wasn’t all about you.

What we were rock solid about was looking after each other

Well looky here. An Army value, right there.

Except, of course – and by your own repeated admission – you couldn’t wait to abandon your ‘mates’ and look out for Number One again.

Indolent
Indolent
September 27, 2024 7:37 am

The whole “J6” imbroglio was a scam and a plot. The very definition of a false flag.

@marklevinshow

This is a big deal

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 27, 2024 7:42 am

Hey. Bob. Liability Bob.

Tell the story again of how you threw your medal away.

You know, just like how Maverick threw Goose’s dog tags into the sea at the end of Top Gun. Complete with background music.

It’s a cool story, bro.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 27, 2024 7:46 am

And the steal is underway.

Rep. Tom Tiffany Reveals Duplicate Absentee Ballots Have ‘No Barcode’ (25 Sep)

Tiffany’s post came a day after he called for an “investigation” after Madison officials revealed that 2,215 duplicate ballots had been sent out to roughly 10 wards.

Sprung, at least in one local area. Betcha there’re a lot more of these floating around the battleground states.

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