Open Thread – Mon 4 November 2024


A View of a Town along the Rhine, Cornelis Springer, 1841

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Tom
Tom
November 6, 2024 4:02 am
Tom
Tom
November 6, 2024 4:03 am
Tom
Tom
November 6, 2024 4:04 am
Tom
Tom
November 6, 2024 4:05 am

A.F. Branco.

Tom
Tom
November 6, 2024 4:05 am
Tom
Tom
November 6, 2024 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
November 6, 2024 4:07 am
Tom
Tom
November 6, 2024 4:08 am
Tom
Tom
November 6, 2024 4:08 am
Tom
Tom
November 6, 2024 4:09 am
Tom
Tom
November 6, 2024 4:10 am
KevinM
KevinM
November 6, 2024 5:19 am

An historic building that still exist but no longer in use and according to recent visitors, not worth the effort going there. Bad roads, long distance, nothing to see.
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Cordillo Downs Woolshed 1883.
60 metres long x 13 metres wide. Housed 120 stands, to shear up to 85,000 sheep. Longest Woolshed in Australia of its kind.

The property is situated right at the top of South Australia with it’s Northern and Eastern boundaries running along the Queensland Border. The Cordillo Downs Station consisted of 7,800 square kilometres.

The shearers used to ride their push bikes up from the south to work here.
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Why no longer operating?
Several reasons offered.

#1
“Australia used to have over 150 million sheep and now has about 70 million. The demand for Australian wool dropped sharply due to synthetics and the export of ram semen(export of live merino rams was prohibited) by idiots in the wool industry that helped improve the quality of fleeces in overseas countries especially the old USSR who had poor quality sheep. Our own wool industry lead by LNP supporters have basically killed their own industry.”

#2
First Nation Land Title grab

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Mak Siccar
Mak Siccar
November 6, 2024 7:29 am
Reply to  KevinM

Stopped to look at this impressive building in 2003, having survived trying to eat food earlier at Cadelga, the fly capital of the Universe. The building and its history are very interesting.

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Old Lefty
Old Lefty
November 6, 2024 2:08 pm
Reply to  KevinM

The old Newcastle post office – a splendid piece of architecture – has been decaying for over a decade because Kenneally government incompetence (after Australia Post transferred the ownership) left it open to a land claim. Ever since, it has sat there unoccupied and rotting while the local land council indulges in faction fighting.

KevinM
KevinM
November 6, 2024 5:21 am

I like cheese with cheese.

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KevinM
KevinM
November 6, 2024 5:24 am

The Germans knew a thing or two when it came to engineering, the Russians are still benefiting.

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The 30,000-ton Schloemann closed die press from WWII. This monster, along with two 15,000 ton presses, helped create components for German aircraft production.

After the war this press was taken back to the USSR and rebuilt. It is still in use today at the Kamensk-Uralsky Metallurgical Works in Russia. Note the people at the bottom for scale.

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Winston Smith
Winston Smith
November 6, 2024 9:12 am
Reply to  KevinM

There’s an interesting US Air Force video of the Heavy Forge program, which started from a war booty Heavy Press from Germany.

KevinM
KevinM
November 6, 2024 5:27 am

No flab, no tatts.

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Aaron
Aaron
November 6, 2024 6:37 am
Reply to  KevinM

And proper cars.

Bruce in WA
November 6, 2024 9:44 am
Reply to  Aaron

And pubes

KevinM
KevinM
November 6, 2024 5:31 am

Bubble bubble toil and trouble.

By Leonard Solomon of some note.
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My antique kettle, or cauldron; English bulge pot style. I estimate it to be nearly 300 years old now, bought many years ago from a barn sale in southern New Jersey.

It was no doubt sand-cast in the mid 1700s, at one of the many iron furnace and foundry towns that were thriving in that early colony. That area is now deep in the Jersey Pine Barrens, where very little now exists except a few ancient sand roads and hidden foundation holes amongst the trees, to mark the locations of those vanished industries.

When I use the kettle to cook “stone soup” for parties of my friends, I like to imagine the multitudes of hungry mouths that gathered around it in the dear dead days beyond recall, and ladled up their sustenance from it.

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KevinM
KevinM
November 6, 2024 5:33 am

That is a question.

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Roger
Roger
November 6, 2024 10:17 am
Reply to  KevinM

It doesn’t quite work in German; wanker translates to Wichser.

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
November 6, 2024 2:09 pm
Reply to  KevinM

Spotted by the photographer during a fahrt.

KevinM
KevinM
November 6, 2024 5:34 am

The question was, what do the residents call themselves?

KevinM
KevinM
November 6, 2024 6:01 am

A poster reminded me of this.

export of ram semen(export of live merino rams was prohibited) by idiots in the wool industry that helped improve the quality of fleeces in overseas countries

According to some in the cattle industry, the same thing is happening with live cattle export to Indonesia, we export breeding cattle to Indonesia which they keep as breeding stock and in years to come replace import.

Short term gain long term loss for us.

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
November 6, 2024 9:23 am
Reply to  KevinM

It’s typical of the Managerial ‘Get Rich Quick’ Class that sell our seed corn for a short term bonus.
While cheap Chinese goods have undercut our own manufacturing base, these scavengers have dived in and made a quid while the wukkas at the light and heavy manufacturing concerns have been tossed onto the scrap heap.

Aaron
Aaron
November 6, 2024 6:41 am

I hope you are all donating to the legal costs.

It’s bigger than Pauline.

Need to reign in the progressive judiciary.

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
November 6, 2024 9:34 am
Reply to  Aaron

Done. $500 on the way.

Black Ball
Black Ball
November 6, 2024 6:41 am

Join me as I pray for Farmer Gez.
Told breathlessly all of last week we were looking at a 41 degree day in North Central Victoriastan. Then revised down to 39 on Sunday, further revised down to 37 today.
Top Men at the Bureau of Meteorology

Annie
Annie
November 6, 2024 11:52 am
Reply to  Black Ball

It’s 26.8C atm in this part of Nth Central Vic. Nearly midday and there is cloud spreading towards us.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 6, 2024 7:18 am

Psst, wanna buy a packet of fags?

UK Moving to Ban Cigarettes Outright (5 Nov)

LONDON (AP) – Legislation intended to ban today´s British children from ever legally being able to smoke began its journey through Parliament on Tuesday. … If passed – as is likely because of the governing Labour Party´s large majority in Parliament — the bill would give Britain some of the toughest anti-smoking measures in the world.

Many many immigrants are smokers, so I suspect this legislation will have basically zero effect. The immigrants will get theirs through the black market and plod will never ever dare to arrest them because of bad optics.

Crossie
Crossie
November 6, 2024 8:45 am

So of course they are also banning marijuana smoking?

Boambee John.
Boambee John.
November 6, 2024 8:50 am
Reply to  Crossie

LOL, as if!

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
November 6, 2024 2:11 pm
Reply to  Crossie

St Jacinda the Uberwoke wanted to ban all smoking unless it was pot.

Cassie of Sydney
November 6, 2024 7:22 am

Aaron
 November 6, 2024 6:41 am

I hope you are all donating to the legal costs.
It’s bigger than Pauline.
Need to reign in the progressive judiciary.

Indeed. I will be donating. It’s actually much deeper than having to rein in an out of control progressive judiciary, it’s about having to rein in an out of control, unhinged, progressive far-left political class who desire to intimidate and silence us. And this latest judgment has empowered them, after it was delivered last Friday Fatso Faruqi said, in black and white (pardon the pun) that she intends to come for you and me.

But all of this could have been avoided had we had a Coalition government with any spine prepared to fight to abolish Section 18C. It was the same after yet another sinister and idiotic federal court judgment only two months ago, with the Sal Grover case against the pervert. In that case the federal court ludicrously deemed you can change sex. That judgment was equally as sinister as the judgment against Hanson last week. Both Section 18C, the law used against Hanson, and the Gillard government’s 2012 changes to the Sex Discrimination Act laws, used against Grover’s ‘Giggle’, should have been kiboshed by a Coalition government. Instead, being the inept political cowards they are, successive Coalition governments either sat and did nothing about them or they cowered in the corner, as they did with Section 18C back in 2014, hoping all this ‘difficult stuff’ will just go away. But here’s the thing, these hideous laws don’t sit idly by, no, no, no, they lurk like unexploded hand grenades, primed and ready to go off when someone picks one up. Just ask Sall Grover, Andrew Bolt, Pauline Hanson, Bernard Gaynor and others.

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Aaron
Aaron
November 6, 2024 9:18 am

Yes I realise there are so many issues, but early morning.

My main wish is to wipe the smile off Faruqi and her green scum mates faces.

The nerve of whining about “racism” after what she did with a rubbish bin.

As for that scumbag son of hers.

A friend did say to me watching Bolt last night: ” Isn’t it funny how Muslims stir up trouble wherever they go”.

It is vital that we send a sign that we are not taking it.

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Winston Smith
Winston Smith
November 6, 2024 9:37 am

When is the Liberal Party going to stand up and defend the very people they demand financial support from?

Beertruk
November 6, 2024 7:30 am

James Morrow in today’s Tele:

MEDIA’S ROLE IN HISTORY’S WILDEST US ELECTION

JAMES MORROW
6 Nov 2024

If you want to understand just why the US presidential contest is so bizarre and so close, just look at the role of the American media in telling Americans what to think, rather than what the arguments are.

For weeks, months, practically a decade now, much of the American press has told the world that Trump rallies are modern day torchlight rallies, seedy gatherings of fascists and misfits and white nationalists.

According to everyone from CNN to the New York Times, these occasions are nothing more than just a bunch of low IQ yokels being sold snake oil by a seedy New York property developer.

And yet.

This column spent the morning of the last full day of the presidential campaign in Raleigh, North Carolina, talking to people at one of Trump’s final events of the campaign and found a very different scene.

Let’s be clear that this was not a Fifth Avenue high society event.

Sure, there were a few office guys in blue blazers in ties scattered in among a crowd that also included mothers with small kids, a landscaping crew in their work gear, and plenty of other people who were able to get the Monday morning off to show up as early as 4am to see their guy.

Ebony Cootes, a middle-aged black woman who described herself as “an Amazon gig worker” said that this was her ninth rally, and that she enjoyed going because of the “love” she felt at Trump events.

Two Hispanic women, seeing us interviewing rally goers, came up to declare themselves “Puerto Ricans for Trump”, saying they were not bothered by the controversy over that comedian at Trump’s Madison Square Garden rally calling Puerto Rico a floating island of garbage.

Yes, a few people had conspiracies on the brain and worried that a Harris win would mean the end of America and world government feudalism.

But frankly, none of it was more bonkers than anything that gets aired from the other direction in the New York Times, which evangelises like a fire-and-brimstone preacher that Trump’s return will herald the end of democracy as we know it.

And it goes without saying that a rally whose soundtrack is a mix of patriotic country ballads (Toby Keith’s The Angry American was a particular favourite) and Village People bangers is more house party than Nazi party.

As for Trump himself, his speech Monday was his usual performance: funny stories, riffing, but with the added punch of a push to slap tariffs on Mexican imports until the Mexican government did something to stem illegal migration.

Contrast this with Kamala Harris’s last day: A series of rallies in which hectored her supporters to cast their ballots. “Let’s get out the vote!” she repeatedly yelled at a crowd in Scranton, Pennsylvania.

While light on policy, the Harris campaign’s final hours were marked by a buzz of celebrity performances – her big closing act was to feature Katy Perry, Oprah Winfrey and Lady Gaga.

The only thing we have not seen during the course of this campaign has been anything remotely like scrutiny from the same press that has whipped up every Trump controversy like a meringue.

Which may be why she was able to get away with not holding a single proper press conference since becoming the party’s nominee.

A small example of this played out in the past 24 hours when it was revealed that several months ago Harris did a podcast with a prominent Muslim influencer in which she decided to argue the position that bacon is a “spice”.

The event took place during a sit-down with Kareem Rahma for his TikTok and Instagram show Subway Takes – but for some reason never wound up going to air.

Bizarrely, Harris used her feelings about bacon (“think about it, it’s pure flavour!”) as a way to pivot Rahma away from an attempt to talk about Gaza.

Of course, had Trump said something like this, the outrage would be felt on the Richter scale, with accusations of everything from Islamophobia to dementia being thrown at the man.

Yet Harris has mostly gotten a pass for this.

Contrast this to Trump, who most recently was raked over the coals for the very reasonable take that people like Liz Cheney who want to send other people’s kids off to war might feel differently if they were ever in the trenches.

Of course, if Trump edges out a win – he’s still a narrow favourite – his enemies in the press will do nothing to reconsider that they got it wrong.

Instead, we will be looking at a meltdown that makes what happened in the wake of the 2016 election look like a toddler’s sulk.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 6, 2024 9:11 am
Reply to  Beertruk

We have seen it all here already with the Voice.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 6, 2024 7:43 am

Things are messy in Israel this morning.

Protests Explode In Tel Aviv After Netanyahu Fires Defense Minister Gallant (6 Nov)

Bazinga
Bazinga
November 6, 2024 8:45 am

Gallant’s position was wrong. The hostages are gone, all that remains is to destroy utterly Hamas and Hezbolah.

lotocoti
lotocoti
November 6, 2024 7:44 am

Top Men at the Bureau of Meteorology

1801 yesterday.

Severe Thunderstorm Warning for large, possibly giant hailstones, damaging winds and heavy rainfall.

Hailstones, giant or otherwise: 0.
Rainfall, heavy or otherwise: 3.8mm.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
November 6, 2024 7:46 am

The Legislature can reign in the Judiciary if they think they are straying.

Likewise the Judiciary can put checks on the legislature if they stray outside the enacted laws.

Likewise the Parliament with the executive and legislature can remove wayward or poorly performing judges or even change the law to check excesses.

IMO Justice Stewart probably has form, like Bromberg. Maybe a couple of examples need to be made by sending these guys back to private practise.

There is a fair bit of fault at the feet of politicians for where we are at.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
November 6, 2024 8:09 am
Reply to  Rockdoctor

Yes

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 6, 2024 9:40 am
Reply to  Rockdoctor

Not quite that simple. Even booting a Magistrate is tough. Look at how long Pat O’Shane lasted in NSW despite having judgments routinely overturned on appeal. Individual cases are a problem but the Balance of Powers is all we’ve got. Courts weren’t any help during Covid though.

132andBush
132andBush
November 6, 2024 8:10 am

Join me as I pray for Farmer Gez.

Told breathlessly all of last week we were looking at a 41 degree day in North Central Victoriastan. Then revised down to 39 on Sunday, further revised down to 37 today.

Top Men at the Bureau of Meteorology

Victorians.

Up here we class that as a “Time to unzip the cardigan” forecast.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 6, 2024 9:42 am
Reply to  132andBush

Wouldn’t last long in the Pil-bar-a.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 6, 2024 9:45 am
Reply to  H B Bear

The old man would fly down to Perth from Tom Price and make a point of borrowing a jumper in February, possibly for effect.

Top Ender
Top Ender
November 6, 2024 9:33 am

Opinion: Couldn’t be more obvious why Qld regions abandoned Labor

At the recent state election Labor lost this seat for the first time ever. The reasons should be obvious, writes Warren Mundine.

It should have been no surprise that Labor was smashed in regional Queensland at the state election.

Queensland Labor’s embrace of progressive policies popular with the urban elite meant it had abandoned the regions.

These communities have suffered.

They have suffered from inflation driven by government spending and energy transition.

They have suffered with job losses from baseload power stations being wound down while their communities make way for the forests of wind farms, carpets of solar panels and untold miles of high-voltage transmission lines.

They have suffered from soaring crime fuelled by progressive ideologies, a tourism industry regularly undermined by activist lies about the health of the Great Barrier Reef, and with coal industries demonised – even as they carry the state’s economy.

Queensland Labor talked a lot of talk about renewables and energy transition.

But its big-spending government was funded by royalties from coal mining and dividends from coal power stations.

At the same time Labor attacked Queensland’s coal-based industries and, in doing so, they attacked the communities which depend on the coal industry for their livelihoods.

Labor raised Queensland’s coal royalties to the highest level in the world.

In the short term this delivered a record surplus to fund Queensland Labor’s election spending, including billions to fund its energy transition agenda and power bill rebates to compensate people for that agenda.

But over the medium to longer term this decision will destroy jobs, with billions of dollars of mining projects cancelled or postponed.

Queensland’s once-booming coal mining industry is now looking towards more competitive markets elsewhere.

Coal companies directly or indirectly support over 372,000 Queensland jobs.

That is 13.5 per cent of total state employment, and that proportion is much higher in regional Queensland.

Labor’s faceless operatives in Brisbane may be shocked that the party lost Mackay for the first time. But I’m not.

The resources sector supports a significant proportion of regional employment in Mackay, and in 2022-23 coal accounted for over 97 per cent of the billions in direct resources-sector spending in the region.

BHP has seven metallurgical coal mines in the Bowen Basin and the Hay Point Coal Terminal near Mackay.

This year BHP announced it will cease further investments in Queensland’s coal industry due to Labor’s royalty hikes.

When you set out to destroy an industry in a community where alternative employment opportunities are scarce, you set out to destroy that community.

Unemployment and increased welfare dependency lead to socio-economic decline and dysfunction.

This is an especially hard cycle to break in regional areas.

Regional Queenslanders don’t want gimmicks like 50 cent bus fares that mostly benefit those living in the cities.

They want a secure job, to be able to provide for their families, raise their children in a good community, to own their own home, and feel safe in it at night.

But this war on the regions by the progressive Left that now dominates the Labor Party is not happening in Queensland alone.

We saw it in Environment Minister Tanya Plibersek’s decision to side with green activists and stop a gold mining project in western NSW by issuing an Indigenous heritage protection order, against the advice of the Orange Local Aboriginal Land Council.

We saw it in Prime Minister Albanese’s decision to fold the Jabiluka uranium deposits into Kakadu National Park, ensuring there will never be mining at Jabiluka – not now and not in the future.

We saw these same tactics fail to block the Carmichael coal mine in central Queensland in the lead-up to the 2019 federal election.

But the result may have been different if Albanese and Plibersek had been in power.

Their inner-city seats are a hive of urban, progressive elites and are most vulnerable to green-Left challengers who are out of touch with the realities of those living in regional communities.

Plibersek also appears to be laying the groundwork to block gas extraction in Beetaloo Basin, requesting a government-appointed scientific panel to advise on the impact on water resources while being urged by Green activities to use new “water trigger” powers to stop it altogether.

Queensland Labor followed in the footsteps of its federal colleagues and consequently lost in the working-class areas of regional Queensland.

The so-called Labor heartland has been rejected by the party that used to support its interests. And now it has returned the favour in kind.

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Nyunggai Warren Mundine AO is a former National President of the Australian Labor Party and Indigenous Forum director at the Centre for Independent Studies. He is chair of Fuse Minerals and non-executive director at Aura Energy.

Courier-Mail

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
November 6, 2024 9:58 am
Reply to  Top Ender

The Liberal/Labor Uniparty is about the tyranny of the minorities against the majority.
Same as Great Britain, New Zealand, and Canada.
The mechanisms that held this in check have failed and leaves us with very few options.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 6, 2024 9:59 am
Reply to  dover0beach

10:21 PM

PMO: Reports Netanyahu seeking to fire IDF, Shin Bet chiefs false

Nov 5, 2024

The Prime Minister’s Office rejected the reports that Prime Minister Netanyahu is planning to fire IDF Chief of Staff Herzi Halevi and Shin Bet chief Ronen Bar and stated, “The reports to the effect that the Prime Minister intends to dismiss senior officials in the security services are incorrect and are designed to sow discord and rifts. This is also the case with the mendacious reports that the haredi ministers were in on the matter. They learned about it from the media.”

From the Arutz Sheva news briefs thread just now. Netanyahu has also had a meeting with them.

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
November 6, 2024 10:02 am
Reply to  dover0beach

Gallant finally orders draft of ultra orthodox into IDF.
Good. No one is too ‘special’ to sit it out when the nation faces an existential threat.
Many here don’t see it that way – tough titties. That’s MY position and I’m not moving from it.

Helen
Helen
November 6, 2024 10:23 pm
Reply to  Winston Smith

Ultra orthodox are already serving, I saw a pic of one on X who recently died, lovely looking kid with his long sidelocks.

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Cassie of Sydney
November 6, 2024 10:31 pm
Reply to  Helen

correct.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
November 6, 2024 10:13 am
Reply to  dover0beach

The Left stirring the pot.

Bruce in WA
November 6, 2024 9:49 am

Move over at the trough …

The Western Australian premier has conceded he failed to disclose his membership of the Qantas Chairman’s Lounge to parliament this year, amid growing scrutiny of travel perks made available to federal and state politicians by the national carrier.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 6, 2024 9:50 am

Snoozer Kelly seems to be having trouble in Teh Paywallian opinion pages as the Albo clown car heads towards the cliff. If Mavis has drifted into parody Snoozer may be working standup now.

Roger
Roger
November 6, 2024 10:06 am

Highly publicised feminist paper of 2023 substantially debunked:

Hunter gatherer societies had gender based divisions of labour.

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Winston Smith
Winston Smith
November 6, 2024 10:34 am
Reply to  Roger

God All Bloody Mighty.
Who gives a shit?

Roger
Roger
November 6, 2024 10:39 am
Reply to  Winston Smith

It’s the subtext, Winston.

The underlying agenda was that women were and are capable of anything a man can do.

Such as female firefighters or women in combat, two very contemporary applications of the principle they were arguing for which will see lives lost unnecessarily.

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H B Bear
H B Bear
November 6, 2024 10:47 am
Reply to  Roger

You wouldn’t want the AFLW out looking for food if you were hungry.

Roger
Roger
November 6, 2024 10:58 am
Reply to  H B Bear

What is this “AFLW”?

Black Ball
Black Ball
November 6, 2024 10:07 am

At Bendigo Base Hospital now for a checkup on the shoulder.
One could be forgiven for thinking this place hires the lady nurses for visually aesthetic purposes. Of course very professional but geez. Absolute stunners everywhere you look.

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
November 6, 2024 10:34 am
Reply to  Black Ball

You noticed too?

Roger
Roger
November 6, 2024 10:13 am

It should have been no surprise that Labor was smashed in regional Queensland at the state election. Queensland Labor’s embrace of progressive policies popular with the urban elite meant it had abandoned the regions.

And guess who the all-powerful unions are backing to replace Miles if he fails to get traction against Crisafulli?

Far left progressive Shannon Fentiman.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 6, 2024 10:16 am
Reply to  Roger

The Queensland Liars are now at least as bad as their Mexican cousins.

Roger
Roger
November 6, 2024 10:27 am
Reply to  H B Bear

Wayne Goss wouldn’t sit comfortably in the party anymore.

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
November 6, 2024 2:15 pm
Reply to  Roger

When he was in office the left used to call him Wayne Bjelke-Goss when there wasn’t a microphone nearby.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 6, 2024 10:14 am

I hope you are all donating to the legal costs.
It’s bigger than Pauline.
Need to reign in the progressive judiciary.

Tipped in a few quid.

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
November 6, 2024 10:35 am

Good man.

bons
bons
November 6, 2024 10:31 am

I can’t find Pauline’s Go Fund Me. Help please.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 6, 2024 10:58 am
Reply to  bons

I rang her office direct.

Aaron
Aaron
November 6, 2024 12:32 pm
Reply to  bons
H B Bear
H B Bear
November 6, 2024 10:42 am

Having popped up in yesterday’s Cat, Piggy Howes photo appears in today’s Paywallian Margin Call column. at the races (unsurprisingly).

Delta A
Delta A
November 6, 2024 10:45 am
Reply to  H B Bear

Wow! Hasn’t he porked up?

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 6, 2024 10:49 am
Reply to  Delta A

Plenty of troughing to be had.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 6, 2024 11:08 am

Former detainees unshackled from ankle bracelets, curfews after High Court winBy Natassia ChrysanthosNovember 6, 2024 — 10.35am

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The High Court has ruled that forcing former immigration detainees to wear ankle bracelets and live under curfews is unconstitutional, in a massive blow to the Albanese government that throws into disarray its response to last year’s NZYQ case.
In a decision that exposes Labor to another fierce opposition attack, a majority of justices on Wednesday said the federal government did not have the authority to impose curfews or electronic tracking anklets on the former detainees because that was punitive and therefore unconstitutional.
The case was brought by a 36-year-old stateless refugee, known as YBFZ.

His lawyers sought to challenge controversial curfew and electronic monitoring laws that the Albanese government rushed through last December as it sought to get on top of the unfolding crisis that emerged when the High Court ruled that it was unconstitutional to indefinitely detain non-citizens who cannot be deported.
That court case, brought by a Rohingyan man known as NZYQ, released 152 former immigration detainees – many with serious criminal convictions, including murder and rape – into the community.

As of September 30, there were 215 former immigration detainees in the community on bridging visas. Of them, 128 are subject to 10pm-to-6am curfews and 140 must wear an electronic monitoring device.
YBFZ’s lawyers argued those measures represented “a restriction on liberty” and were punitive by design. Since only the courts, not the government, can inflict punishment on people, they made a case that the laws were unconstitutional.
The government argued the legislation was not a form of punishment but instead an alternative response to managing non-citizens who could not be deported.

YBFZ arrived in Australia with his family in 2002, aged 14, having fled from Eritrea to Ethiopia and then settled as a stateless refugee.
He was diagnosed with schizophrenia in 2014, when in his mid-20s, and had his permanent visa cancelled years later when he was sentenced to 18 months imprisonment.
After serving his jail sentence, YBFZ was moved into immigration detention, where he remained for five years until the NZYQ decision.
His lawyers sought to question whether the government had the power to impose such restrictive and punitive conditions.
“If he is late home by one minute, or doesn’t recharge his ankle bracelet on time, he potentially faces a mandatory minimum one year prison sentence – for each breach,” they said.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
November 6, 2024 11:13 am

Ta upthread H B. I have a rudimentary understanding of the legal system from civics at school and one subject that delved into law in second year of my Science degree.

I was thinking given O’Shane’s outbursts and disdain for the law that it was more political cowardice that she wasn’t summarily sacked.

Any ideas how this problem can be fixed?

Politicians are easy we just vote them out, courts though are not. I don’t support electing judges as an alternative either. I thought it would be easier to corrupt but seeing how Soros is active I could only imagine Simon Homes-a-Court minions here.

Wouldn’t care too much if the law was affordable but know from experience retainers are out of the reach of most people and the higher you go the more is needed. I have never had anything get to court and have been involved with VCAT which was enough for me.

Open question, is it me or are we seeing more of these defamation actions since they tweaked the laws? Or are more public people thinner skinned these days?

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 6, 2024 11:31 am
Reply to  Rockdoctor

Any ideas how this problem can be fixed?

I think it is kept deliberately complex (and visible) to prevent any attempt at abuses. Broadly speaking, I think the removal of any judicial officer requires both Houses of Parliament. They were in the process of removing Clarke Briese during the Lionel Murphy era but he saved them the trouble by dying. People get pretty excited if they think political interference in the courts gets too overt.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 6, 2024 11:33 am
Reply to  H B Bear

Clarrie

Top Ender
Top Ender
November 6, 2024 11:14 am

Ankle monitors, curfews for freed detainees ‘unconstitutional’: High Court

Paul Garvey

?The foreign murderers, rapists and other serious offenders released from indefinite detention will no longer have to wear ankle monitors or comply with curfews after the High Court ruled that the measures were invalid.

The nation’s highest court on Wednesday morning ruled that the measures introduced by the Albanese government in the wake of last year’s NZYQ decision amounted to a transgression of the constitution.

The case had been brought by an Eritrean-born man, identified only as YBFZ, whose lawyers argued that the curfew was a “significant infringement of liberty” and the ankle monitor a “scarlet letter”. The man, who had arrived in Australia in 2002 as a 14-year-old, had stabbed at least three people, was convicted of burglary, and had set a property on fire.

The conditions were imposed under the special Bridging Visa R, or BVR, issued to each of the former detainees upon their release.

“The High Court held, by majority, that the imposition of each of the curfew condition and the monitoring condition on a BVR is prima facie punitive and cannot be justified,” the High Court judgement said.

The number of detainees released from indefinite detention has now grown to 215. Another 13 were released in the first few weeks of October, with Department of Home Affairs officials this week confirming that releases were set to continue indefinitely as more and more detainees exhausted their deportation options.

Fresh data table in a senate estimates hearing this week revealed that 65 of the 215 released detainees had since been charged with fresh state and territory offences.

Of the 215 individuals released to date, 12 of those had previously been convicted of murder or attempted murder, 66 with sex offences including child sex offences, 97 with assault-related offences, 15 with domestic violence, 15 with serious drug offences, and five with people-smuggling. Another five had “low level or no offending”.

Oz

Vicki
Vicki
November 6, 2024 11:16 am
Reply to  Top Ender

A referendum to change the Constitution?

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
November 6, 2024 11:21 am
Reply to  Vicki

Agreed, insert a clause where for non-citizens (even claiming indigenous heritage) the immigration minister has the last call and reserve power.

Then inform the UN that any treaties we have signed up to governing this are now conditional.

Ceres
Ceres
November 6, 2024 11:49 am
Reply to  Rockdoctor

This sounds like an essential change to the Constitution that would have bi partisan support instead of wasting that $460 million on an apartheid “Voice”.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
November 6, 2024 11:55 am
Reply to  Rockdoctor

Zachary. Think of all the wailing at the jurdges dinner parties. Drs wives not having a pet scumbag to make them feel virtuous. Hop time can’t come soon enough.

Roger
Roger
November 6, 2024 1:22 pm
Reply to  Vicki

If necessary.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
November 6, 2024 11:25 am
Reply to  Top Ender

High Court insanity.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 6, 2024 11:37 am
Reply to  Top Ender

Without reading the judgment limiting the Cth incidental powers through a narrow reading of the Constitution might pose problems elsewhere. Constitutional cases have a habit of doing that.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
November 6, 2024 11:24 am

Watching the US election coverage on SkyNews.

Heavy TDS from the usual suspects on daytime Sky.

Michael Ware in particular is deranged, pissed or on drugs. Incoherent.

Boambee John.
Boambee John.
November 6, 2024 11:33 am
Reply to  Barking Toad

Possibly all three.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
November 6, 2024 11:58 am

Speaking of Legal o’s. Bruce Lehrman new silk doesn’t want to be in the open yet. Probably a wise move:

https://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/courts-law/mystery-silk-in-lehrmann-appeal-as-he-fights-to-overturn-defamation-case-loss/news-story/cad81f8b863da1ec68ccdd6d88548d9f

Appeal next August and what’s a bet the name is leaked before then…

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 6, 2024 12:38 pm

Here you go.
https://www.onenation.org.au/free-speech-now

Pauline Hanson’s fundraiser – $168,000 so far..

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 6, 2024 12:49 pm

Thanks for that Zulu. Modest donation is now in PHON’s account! I wasn’t sure it’d worked but logged into my acct and it’d gone through.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
November 6, 2024 12:52 pm

Cheers, slung a pineapple.

Perplexed of Brisbane
Perplexed of Brisbane
November 6, 2024 7:38 pm

First time I have ever donated to a political cause.

Another case of the only politicians with ‘balls’ are biological females.

Nelson_Kidd-Players
Nelson_Kidd-Players
November 6, 2024 12:50 pm

Another reason for Johanna why things should become obsolete once in a while in our brave new world. The limitations of the mobile phone system, particularly 2G and 3G, which are being left behind here but, curiously, are not in Europe since your mandatory SOS button in the car must continue to work. How the phone system can be hacked to take over your mobile or at least locate whether you are at work or at home, even with WiFi turned off.

Veritasium: Exposing The Flaw In Our Phone System (YouTube: 31:54)

Arky
November 6, 2024 1:37 pm

I’ve made a life changing decision.
Rather than buy litre bottles of glue, for a task to use a few mils then come back in a year only to find the whole bottle dried up, I’m from now on buying multiple small bottles.
It only took me 6 decades to figure this out.

Pogria
Pogria
November 6, 2024 2:22 pm
Reply to  Arky

snork!!!

Wally Dali
Wally Dali
November 6, 2024 1:42 pm

Arky-
Hide glue. Aka rabbit glue, protein glue. Little stinky pearls, keep in a vegemite jar forever, melt to use, sticks forever. Brilliant stuff. I use it on my guitars- takes a sh*t-tonne of torque, miraculously lets go under reasonable heat for re-setting.

Arky
November 6, 2024 1:56 pm
Reply to  Wally Dali

Yes.
The original glue.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 6, 2024 1:45 pm

Trump leads Harris in first results, clear favourite in key swing states of Georgia, North CarolinaDonald Trump has won Florida, a key state and is leading Kamala Harris in Georgia and North Carolina, both key battleground states as the Vice President takes the northeast.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 6, 2024 1:52 pm

Election thread is this way ->

Last edited 2 months ago by Bruce of Newcastle
Winston Smith
Winston Smith
November 6, 2024 2:00 pm

Gilas:

BlobRats, MSM, polling companies, BigTech, Soros-backed lawyers and judges, 40% of a brain-washed electorate and, most importantly, bat-shit-crazy single cat-women, may well have successfully broken America.

Free Enterprise will beat Communism at a moderate cost.
Christianity can beat Islam at a moderate cost.
The West can beat Islam and Communists at a heavy cost.
We cannot beat Islam, the Communists, and the treasonous bastards already inside the walls.
The Treasonous Bastards (TM) are what will destroy us – they have to be dealt with.
Now you can see why Pinochet gave out so many helicopter flights – he had no choice.
Let’s hope we aren’t forced to that choice.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 6, 2024 2:23 pm

Pauline Hanson’s fundraiser is over $200,000.

Top Ender
Top Ender
November 6, 2024 2:37 pm

Sky 207 to 91

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
November 6, 2024 2:59 pm

Outback truckers used to enjoy but has become very repetitive but I suppose was bound to run out of material quickly so has to manufacture drama now or jump in with cowboys.

Some of those oversize guys they had on recently were definitely sloppy, running through some pretty solid ongoing roadworks without checking the Qld Tpt website is either looking for drama and blaming it on the permit issuer or poor planning.

Pogria
Pogria
November 6, 2024 3:02 pm

Unsurprising that the High Court ruled against ankle bracelets and detention for criminal illegals, yet they agreed that locking up average Aussies, and forcing them to take the stab was quite okay.
Definitely not an egregious breach of OUR Human rights.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 6, 2024 3:09 pm
Reply to  Pogria

Find an island.
Take off their anklets.
Let them go free on the island.

Boambee John.
Boambee John.
November 6, 2024 3:16 pm

Preferably an island surrounded by crocodile infested waters.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
November 6, 2024 3:35 pm

My thoughts too. Courts want to get all activist then creative solutions are needed.

How bout Macquarie Island or Heard and MacDonald Islands?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 6, 2024 3:49 pm
Reply to  Rockdoctor

I was thinking of one of the ones off of southern WA.

Macquarie Island is out: they would eat the protected wildlife.

Perplexed of Brisbane
Perplexed of Brisbane
November 6, 2024 7:36 pm

Send all the activist judges and their families to the island to live amongst them.

Barking Toad
Barking Toad
November 6, 2024 3:30 pm

Calling it now.

Trump is going to shit it in

The Cackler is fcuked.

Salvatore - Iron Publican
November 6, 2024 3:43 pm

It seems Arky has exposed Big Glue’s nefarious marketing ploy.

Buccaneer
Buccaneer
November 6, 2024 3:54 pm

Trump should win both GA and PA, both require Harris leaning counties to considerably outperform the current vote for harris with the remaining expected vote. That’s the show.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 6, 2024 3:57 pm

Chris Uhlmann correctly pointing out that one of the most worried men on the planet would be Zelensky.

Pogria
Pogria
November 6, 2024 4:33 pm
Reply to  Sancho Panzer

Uhlmann had a slip vis a vis the Kamel’s name earlier. He called her Kamilla. hah!

Lawgi Dawes-Hall
Lawgi Dawes-Hall
November 6, 2024 4:01 pm

 Big Glue

Pearler, son. The tragedy is no one’s gunna see it, they’re all glued to the other thread.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
November 6, 2024 4:13 pm

Shock parole decision in Samantha Barlow caseBy Perry DuffinNovember 6, 2024 — 2.25pm

Listen to this article
4 min
The drug addict who bashed a heroic police officer and left her for dead will be paroled despite warnings he is a “high risk of violent offending” and his victim saying NSW has now become “a more dangerous place for women”.
Roderick Holohan repeatedly bashed sergeant Samantha Barlow in the head with a brick while she walked through Kings Cross on her way to work in 2009.
Holohan thought he had killed Barlow, and robbed her of $200 for his next heroin fix.
The NSW State Parole Authority on Wednesday said it intended to release Holohan to supervised parole after 15 years in prison.
The parole authority said Holohan, who poses clear dangers to the community, could only be supervised while on parole and not after the end of his sentence in 2029.
“The authority has come to the view that the community safety is better protected by monitoring this offender on a very lengthy period of supervised parole with strict conditions to manage his reintegration and reduce his risk of reoffending,” it said in a statement.

“If the offender were released at the end of sentence, there would be no risk mitigation plan in place and no supervision, and the danger posed to community safety would be substantially greater.”
Barlow and her husband Laurence said Holohan’s release undermined their faith in political commitments to halt violence against women.

Zippster
Zippster
November 6, 2024 4:25 pm

I hope you are all donating to the legal costs.

DONE

Zippster
Zippster
November 6, 2024 4:28 pm

EU Caused Spain Flood Disaster

 Summary: In this live stream, the host Mahyar Tousi discusses the recent flood disaster in Valencia, Spain, which has resulted in significant loss of life and property damage. He argues that while the floods are often attributed to climate change, the real cause is the removal of flood protection infrastructure dictated by the European Union’s biodiversity policies. He presents historical context about flooding in Valencia, contending that the region has experienced similar incidents for centuries, and criticizes the EU for prioritizing eco-policies over public safety. The host emphasizes the lack of accountability and media coverage regarding the EU’s role in the disaster, sparking a broader conversation about governance, local autonomy, and the consequences of centralized decision-making. ### Key Points: #### Introduction: – Discussion on the recent flood disaster in Valencia, Spain. – Mention of protests against the Prime Minister’s visit to the flood-affected areas. #### Analysis of the Flood Cause: – The floods are described as a natural disaster but attributed to political decisions rather than climate change. – Historical context of flooding in Valencia for over 800 years, arguing the flood severity is linked to infrastructure changes rather than climate change alone. #### EU Policies Affecting Flood Management: – Critique of the European Union’s biodiversity strategy (2030) and dam removal policies. – Removal of flood barriers and dams across Europe, with Spain leading the number of removals. – The rationale behind these removals is framed as environmentalism, but at the cost of public safety. #### Consequences of Infrastructure Removal: – The immediate impact of removing flood barriers leading to exacerbated flooding. – A lack of media scrutiny of the EU’s policies and their role in the disaster. #### Call for Accountability: – A plea for accountability from the Spanish government and the European Union. – Discussion on how local populations are unaware of the decisions that affect their safety. #### Global Context and Audience Reactions: – Comparison of EU policies to governmental centralization in other regions (e.g., California). – Interaction with the live chat audience, discussing public awareness and the importance of spreading information about the EU’s role. #### Conclusion: – Emphasis on the need for awareness and continued discussion about the implications of EU policies. – Importance of local governance and understanding regional needs versus one-size-fits-all policies from central authorities. – A note about the upcoming U.S. presidential election watch party, shifting focus to current U.S. political events. This summary reflects the main themes and key points from each section of the transcript, providing a clear understanding of the operator’s arguments related to the floods in Spain and the EU’s influence on local governance and disaster management.

Nelson_Kidd-Players
Nelson_Kidd-Players
November 6, 2024 4:42 pm

Apropos of Nothing, I asked perplexity.ai:

What Australian location is closest to the weighted centre of gravity for federal members?

To answer this question, we need to consider the geographical distribution of Australia’s federal electoral divisions and their population weights. While there is no official “weighted centre of gravity” for federal members, we can approximate it based on the available information.

Australia’s federal parliament consists of 151 members in the House of Representatives, each representing an electoral division. These divisions are distributed across the country based on population, with more densely populated areas having more representatives.

The centre of population for Australia provides a good approximation for the weighted centre of gravity for federal members, as electoral divisions are designed to have roughly equal populations. According to the most recent data:

Australia’s centre of population is located approximately 40 km east of the town of Ivanhoe in western New South Wales[3][4]. This location has moved slightly over time but has remained relatively stable in recent years.

The exact coordinates for this centre point are not provided in the search results, but we can identify Ivanhoe as the closest named location to this centre. Ivanhoe is a small town in the Central Darling Shire of western New South Wales.

It’s worth noting that this centre point takes into account the entire population of Australia, including territories and offshore areas. The actual weighted centre for federal members might differ slightly, as not all Australian territories have the same representation in federal parliament as the states.

Additionally, the centre of population has moved only marginally in recent years:

– In 2022, it moved 1.4 km north from the previous year.

– In 2023, it moved 1.9 km west compared to 2022[4].

These small movements indicate that the centre point remains relatively stable near Ivanhoe.

In conclusion, the Australian location closest to the weighted centre of gravity for federal members is likely to be the town of Ivanhoe in western New South Wales, or a point approximately 40 km east of Ivanhoe.

Citations:

[1] confluence[dot]org/confluence[dot]php?visitid=10560

[2] www[dot]ga[dot]gov[dot]au/about/projects/resources/geophysical-acquisition-and-processing/gravity

[3] en[dot]wikipedia[dot]org/wiki/Centre_points_of_Australia

[4] www[dot]ga[dot]gov[dot]au/scientific-topics/national-location-information/dimensions/centre-of-australia-states-territories

[5] www[dot]aec[dot]gov[dot]au/profiles/

[6] en[dot]wikipedia[dot]org/wiki/Center_of_population

[7] electorate[dot]aec[dot]gov[dot]au

[8] www[dot]aph[dot]gov[dot]au/senators_and_members/members

[9] www[dot]perplexity[dot]ai/elections/2024-11-05/us/president

so there you have it. We need to relocate Canberra to Ivanhoe, NSW. For fairness.

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
November 6, 2024 7:08 pm

They’d love that.
Ivanhoe was where I caught Ross River Virus and nearly died.
Maybe we’ll get lucky and cull our PS population.

Top Ender
Top Ender
November 6, 2024 5:32 pm

In Other News, the Greens are booted out of the new ACT government…Labor will form a minority government.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
November 6, 2024 5:51 pm

I don’t know why they didn’t go minority last time, TE. The watermelons had too much say last time.

Pogria
Pogria
November 6, 2024 5:59 pm
Reply to  GreyRanga

Sometimes, you really need to have your head bashed in, before you realise you are making a collossal mistake.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
November 6, 2024 7:45 pm
Reply to  Pogria

Thats never going to happen with the Lying Labor Liars.

Nelson_Kidd-Players
Nelson_Kidd-Players
November 6, 2024 7:23 pm

Black Ball November 6, 2024 10:07 am

At Bendigo Base Hospital now for a checkup on the shoulder.

One could be forgiven for thinking this place hires the lady nurses for visually aesthetic purposes. Of course very professional but geez. Absolute stunners everywhere you look.

Could it possibly be a plan to distract one from one’s predicament? That’s the sort of competence I thought was outlawed these days.

Perhaps they have an arrangement with Qantas.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
November 6, 2024 8:26 pm

“How many know what I am talking about? I am not talking about burning down a building”

Trammps – Disco inferno Dj S Remix

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
November 6, 2024 8:56 pm

Bee Gees – You Should Be Dancing (encore) (Live in Las Vegas, 1997 – One Night Only)

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
November 6, 2024 8:58 pm
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H B Bear
H B Bear
November 6, 2024 9:22 pm

In other news, I have fallen foul of the Instagram algorithms and been banned again. For those of you wondering it did not involve nudity (at least on my part).

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
November 7, 2024 4:34 am
Reply to  H B Bear

When did you start wearing pants?

Tom
Tom
November 6, 2024 9:26 pm

I look forward to the buffoons of the American news media having a spazzo freakout about why the American majority they don’t understand needs strong leadership which has been absent for the past 30 years.

To the tiny brains of the media, Trump is a “fascist” because they have forgotten what national strength looks like.

Putin, Xi and the mullahs in Iran are crapping their daks because they’ll no longer be able to run wild in the Middle East and Ukraine.

The cold hard truth is that America is the world’s policeman and when America cops out of the game, the world’s naughty children and grown up tyrants are let off the chain, the world becomes a very dangerous place.

The world has had a gutful of America’s juvenile delinquent government.

Cassie of Sydney
November 6, 2024 9:31 pm
Reply to  Tom

Comment of the night.

Cassie of Sydney
November 6, 2024 9:40 pm

Lately a man has been spotted walking around Bondi Junction, Double Bay, Rose Bay and Bondi Beach and other suburbs where lot of Jews live wearing a t-shirt emblazoned with the words…..

F*ck Israel
F*ck Zionism

Last Sunday, at Bondi Beach, this man was charged and is due to face court in a month or two. Word went around that he’s the son of a former federal Labor minister.

It has now been confirmed that this Jew haters’ name is Andrew Brown, one time deputy mayor of Mosman, son of former Labor minister John Brown and his wife, Jan Brown, she of ‘sex on the desk’ fame.

Classy family.

Boambee John.
Boambee John.
November 7, 2024 8:19 am

And left her dirty knickers in the departmental head’s in tray.

Really classy.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
November 6, 2024 9:58 pm

It has now been confirmed that this Jew haters’ name is Andrew Brown, one time deputy mayor of Mosman, son of former Labor minister John Brown and his wife, Jan Brown, she of ‘sex on the desk’ fame.
Classy family.

It should console you somewhat that the antisemites are inevitably ghastly people. If the decent ones are on your side and the horrible ones are on the other, you’ve got a good hand

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
November 6, 2024 10:01 pm

When is Trump’s sentencing?

Digger
Digger
November 6, 2024 10:29 pm
Reply to  Sancho Panzer

WASHINGTON, Nov 6 (Reuters) – Donald Trump‘s claimed U.S. presidential election victory on Wednesday will essentially end the criminal cases brought against him, at least for the four years he occupies the White House.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
November 6, 2024 11:29 pm

Actually spotted my first Bitcoin teller machine in the wild at a service station in Perth today.

Didn’t know they were a thing.

Little Gidding
Little Gidding
November 7, 2024 12:23 am

And all shall be well and

All manner of thing shall be well

When the tongues of flames are in-folded 

Into the crowned knot of fire 

And the fire and the rose are one.

Steve trickler
Steve trickler
November 7, 2024 1:04 am

H B Bear
 November 6, 2024 9:22 pm

In other news, I have fallen foul of the Instagram algorithms and been banned again. For those of you wondering it did not involve nudity (at least on my part).

======

My only place in the digital verse IS here. No other platform. Not one comment on U-tube.

A million crazy comments a day will drive you insane.

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Tom
Tom
November 7, 2024 4:00 am
Tom
Tom
November 7, 2024 4:01 am
Tom
Tom
November 7, 2024 4:02 am
Tom
Tom
November 7, 2024 4:02 am
Tom
Tom
November 7, 2024 4:03 am
Tom
Tom
November 7, 2024 4:04 am
Tom
Tom
November 7, 2024 4:05 am
Tom
Tom
November 7, 2024 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
November 7, 2024 4:07 am
Tom
Tom
November 7, 2024 4:08 am
Tom
Tom
November 7, 2024 4:08 am
DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
November 7, 2024 4:26 am

Thanks Tom, after all the fuss

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
November 7, 2024 5:52 am

The swamp creatures have only themselves to blame.

They summoned Trump into existence originally with their overreach and radicalism in the Obama years. Without that, without what he could see happening to his country, Trump would not have entered politics.

Then, by stealing the Presidency in 2020 then embarking on years of denigrating Trump and turning their tyranny into overdrive, finally unleashing a whirlwind of legal action. The result is that Trump knows them much better and is more motivated than he would have been if he had been allowed to win unmolested in 2020.

They made him the first time. They made him mad as hell the second

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
November 7, 2024 6:08 am

So who the Hell is winning the popular vote?
I’ve been to three sites that claim to tell me, but don’t.
It will be interesting to see if California hands over the EV they claim the Republicans had to when they won the popular vote before.

Last edited 2 months ago by Winston Smith
rugbyskier
rugbyskier
November 7, 2024 6:11 am
Reply to  Winston Smith

Trump 72.2 million to Harris 67.4 million.

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
November 7, 2024 6:29 am
Reply to  rugbyskier

So how is the Popular Vote determined? Is it a percentage, or a definite number? Or the amount of ballots with a smiley face on them?
Excuse the terseness, but I’m starting to get really pissed off with Googles ‘suggestions’ that have nothing to do with the search parameters input, but are all about clickbait for their paying customers.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
November 7, 2024 6:40 am
Reply to  Winston Smith

Google is a useless search engine.

rugbyskier
rugbyskier
November 7, 2024 7:16 am
Reply to  Winston Smith

It’s the total number of votes cast for each candidate across all 50 states and territories (Puerto Rico, Guam, American Samoa etc). The popular vote does not determine the result, the electoral college is the determinant and the candidate with the highest vote in each state (except Nebraska and Maine, which are divided into districts) gets all the electoral college votes for that state.

Beertruk
November 7, 2024 6:22 am

Now that The Don has won, and also won the popular vote, where does that leave the retards that brought court cases against him?

Also on the kangaroo court that sentenced people to the slammer over events on 6 Jan 2021.

Rightly or wrongly, I am hoping for some medieval bloodletting on those involved on the kangaroo court and the retards and their court cases.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 7, 2024 6:28 am

So who the Hell is winning the popular vote?

Winston, did you check the PJM results page?

Looks up to date, certainly the time signatures are correct. The map has the results by state as well.

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
November 7, 2024 6:34 am

Yes.
It says nothing about the Popular Vote or what it is.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 7, 2024 6:51 am
Reply to  Winston Smith

The popular vote is just the total number, which is underneath the bar on each side.

You can get more from this Instapundit post from yesterday.

The point is the popular vote is only loosely connected to the electoral college, which is what decides the Presidency.

PeterM
PeterM
November 7, 2024 6:32 am

I wonder how much the D’s lawfare turned people off them or even motivated a vote for the R’s? Did any of the exit polls ask a pertinent question?

calli
calli
November 7, 2024 6:42 am

Winston, here are the latest results from PJM. Popular vote at the end.
2024 Presidential Results
Last updated: Nov 6, 2024 at 2:39 PM

226
Harris

301
Trump

270 to win

67,503,624
votes
72,256,917
votes

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
November 7, 2024 6:51 am
Reply to  calli

So the popular vote is defined as the amount of votes that the winner gets? Yes?

Please excuse my terseness – all the frigging dogs in the street have been barking their bloody heads off since midnight all week. Emus are invading us, and while the damn emus are doing nothing more than what they’ve been doing for the last 100 years, this week the bloody dogs have decided it’s a special occasion and the emus are armed with killer weapons and The Boss must be alerted to the danger stalking the streets and eating the damned roses.

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
November 7, 2024 6:54 am
Reply to  Winston Smith

Bugger this, I’ve fed Elsie, and now I’ve a headache.
Back to bed with a coffee and a couple of panadol.

Gabor
Gabor
November 7, 2024 6:43 am

PeterM
November 7, 2024 6:32 am

I wonder how much the D’s lawfare turned people off them or even motivated a vote for the R’s? Did any of the exit polls ask a pertinent question?

I am sure with thinking voters it made a difference.
(There for the grace of God go I)

Also surprisingly, killing a squirrel stirs up emotions and can affect votes, by how many, I don’t dare guessing.

calli
calli
November 7, 2024 6:49 am

Something remarkable has happened.

Now that Trump is president (again), lefties suddenly know what a woman is. Sky just had some abortion hungry chick rabbiting on about a woman’s “body rights”. Killing their babies is all these ghouls can think about.

Miltonf
Miltonf
November 7, 2024 9:23 am
Reply to  calli

We demand the right to.kill our kids

Lawgi Dawes-Hall
Lawgi Dawes-Hall
November 7, 2024 6:58 am

all the frigging dogs in the street have been barking their bloody heads off since midnight all week. Emus are invading us, and while the damn emus are doing nothing more than what they’ve been doing for the last 100 years, this week the bloody dogs have decided it’s a special occasion and the emus are armed with killer weapons and The Boss must be alerted to the danger stalking the streets and eating the damned roses.

There’s the precis to your fillum right there.

Lawgi Dawes-Hall
Lawgi Dawes-Hall
November 7, 2024 6:59 am

Now that Trump is president (again), lefties suddenly know what a woman is. Sky just had some abortion hungry chick rabbiting on about a woman’s “body rights”. Killing their babies is all these ghouls can think about.

There’s the precis to your fillum right there.

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Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 7, 2024 7:04 am

I’ll reiterate on something I mentioned to Winston in the replies:

National Popular Vote Interstate Compact (wiki)

The National Popular Vote Interstate Compact (NPVIC) is an agreement among a group of U.S. states and the District of Columbia to award all their electoral votes to whichever presidential ticket wins the overall popular vote in the 50 states and the District of Columbia. The compact is designed to ensure that the candidate who receives the most votes nationwide is elected president, and it would come into effect only when it would guarantee that outcome.[2][3][4]

The states who’ve signed up are blue ones, which stemmed from the 2016 election when Trump won but Hillary got the highest aggregate popular vote.

It isn’t in force yet which will give these blue states an excuse not to award their delegates to Trump, which would be great fun. But it’ll make for fun trolling of places like California who might be reconsidering this compact right about now.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
November 7, 2024 7:17 am

Emus are invading us, and while the damn emus are doing nothing more than what they’ve been doing for the last 100 years

Hate those birds, they leave big sloppy craps everywhere. Like walking in a minefield when they are around. Chicks look cute though.

Dumb as dog s%$# as well, had them running alongside then suddenly turning at the car knocking themselves out.

Indolent
Indolent
November 7, 2024 7:41 am

I doubt there’ll be too many more of these. A total fraud and scam.

Queer Works CEO indicted in fraud scheme involving Palm Springs universal basic income pilot program

shatterzzz
November 7, 2024 7:42 am

Damn! .. Did I dream it or did the Don (bless ‘im!) get elected next president of the USA yesterday ..? Not a mention on the main page of MSN News ………..FFS!

Indolent
Indolent
November 7, 2024 7:53 am
Black Ball
Black Ball
November 7, 2024 8:14 am

It’s a stunning repudiation of identity politics. No one cares about if you are Asian African American with a vagina.
Do the job that is asked, like secure the border. Keep your finances in order. Offer assistance to a trusted friend in the Middle East.
Oh and hi monty

Indolent
Indolent
November 7, 2024 8:28 am
Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 7, 2024 8:35 am

Looks like there’s going to be another consequential election in the near future.

Chaos erupts in Germany as Scholz’s beleaguered coalition ‘collapses’ (6 Nov)

Chancellor Olaf Scholz said trust has been broken with Germany’s finance minister, Christian Lindner, in a move that paves the way for snap elections. … Mr Lindner is a member of the pro-business Free Democrats (FPD), one of the parties making up Germany’s so-called “traffic light coalition”, which has been in power since 2021. … The sacking came after the FPD issued a paper urging economic reforms which Mr Scholz’s Social Democratic Party and the Greens couldn’t stomach.

Maybe the left and the greens will try to hang on in a minority government though. The prospect of losing a snap election and a massive swing to the AfD would not be very palatable to them.

Beertruk
November 7, 2024 8:47 am
Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 7, 2024 8:48 am

Nice work lady.

Kemi Badenoch leaves Keir Starmer dazed in brutal PMQs (6 Nov)

Five minutes into Kemi Badenoch’s debut as Tory leader at PMQs and Keir Starmer was like a cartoon character who’d been knocked senseless, stars spinning around his head.

The Prime Minister thought it was going so well, opening the exchanges by congratulating Donald Trump on his US election victory.

He spoke fondly of having dinner with the Republican a couple of months back and said he looked forward to working with him in the years to come.

But Ms Badenoch was having none of it, immediately demanding Sir Keir apologise for “derogatory and scatological” remarks made by him and other senior Labour figures about the President-elect.

Leaning forward on the despatch box she pointed to comments made by Foreign Secretary David Lammy who had described Trump as a “Neo-Nazi sympathiser”.

And she scorched the PM over Labour MPs and staffers helping to campaign for Democrat candidate Kamala Harris.

Starmer was left flailing such was the ferocity of the Badenoch blitz.

The Tories may be irrelevant for the next four plus years, but if Ms Badenoch can continue holding Labour’s feet to the fire like this it should be quite entertaining.

shatterzzz
November 7, 2024 9:16 am

Bon .. you know your birds .. is this real or AI ..?

Owl
Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 7, 2024 9:29 am
Reply to  shatterzzz

I’d guess it is actually a toy. Look at the talons. They aren’t digging in. No way would she be holding up an owl that big with those talons without serious arm protection.

shatterzzz
November 7, 2024 10:07 am

It’s a still from a quickie video but for some reason the site kept rejecting the video ..
Do they come this big ..?

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
November 7, 2024 5:11 pm
Reply to  shatterzzz

Actually, some of them do come that big.

We saw several huge white owls in the special zoo in Rovaneime, in Finland, beyond the arctic circle. They were definitely alive and looking at us.

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
November 7, 2024 4:14 pm
Reply to  shatterzzz

Shatterzzz:
Not real – the framework is Oregon Pine, and that isn’t available in Florida.
Oh.
You mean the bird?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 7, 2024 9:24 am

Third WIP for the week and it’s only Thursday!

Mid-Week in Pictures: Day After Edition | Power Line

Roger
Roger
November 7, 2024 9:41 am

Sky just had some abortion hungry chick rabbiting on about a woman’s “body rights”. 

The tide is slowly turning against them.

They can sense it, thus the rhetoric becomes more shrill.

Pogria
Pogria
November 7, 2024 12:51 pm
Reply to  cohenite

I still need to know if Midler drank the Draino!

Roger
Roger
November 7, 2024 10:05 am

The Tories may be irrelevant for the next four plus years, but if Ms Badenoch can continue holding Labour’s feet to the fire like this it should be quite entertaining.

Targeting Starmer for his dishonesty and Lammy for his stupidity is picking low hanging fruit.

Starmer had a few retorts of his own. When Badenoch accused him of reading from scripts prepared by experts he ridiculed her for reading from the large print script she was holding in her hand at the time.

Kemi is going to have to move beyond the theatrics sooner rather than later and get on to matters of substance if she’s to be an effective opposition leader.

H B Bear
H B Bear
November 7, 2024 10:11 am

Loved the Varvel today. The Democrats will need to dump Obama, Clinton and the rest of them like how Trump has remade the Republicans.

lotocoti
lotocoti
November 7, 2024 10:56 am

A chilling message for the Orange Hitler from The Resistance.

local oaf
November 7, 2024 11:02 am

chuckle 🙂

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Mak Siccar
Mak Siccar
November 7, 2024 11:19 am

https://www.onenation.org.au/free-speech-now

Donation made. Total now almost $297k.

local oaf
November 7, 2024 11:45 am
Reply to  Mak Siccar

Just passed $300,000 – almost doubled in 24 hours!

bons
bons
November 7, 2024 12:59 pm
Reply to  Mak Siccar

I chucked in my usual measly few crumbs, but then the thought of that Paki bouncing castle having her own private judge upset me so much I popped in another crumb.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 7, 2024 11:39 am

Good luck with that.

Government pledges to ban social media for minors under 16 (Tele, 7 Nov, not paywalled…yet)

The Albanese government has unveiled “world-leading legislation” to ban social media for kids under 16, even if their parents say they can be online.

Anthony Albanese finally revealed the hotly anticipated age restriction for social platforms on Thursday, months after they announced trials. …

The eSafety Commissioner would be responsible for enforcing the legislation, which Mr Albanese said would be introduced when parliament sits next.

VPN futures are up. I expect they’ll be next on Karenhair Inman Goebbels’ list of pet hates.

Zippster
Zippster
November 7, 2024 11:52 am

The Erosion Of Informed Consent: Sharyl Attkisson

**Summary:** In this episode of “American Thought Leaders,” Sharyl Attkisson, an investigative journalist, discusses the erosion of informed consent in medical and scientific research, highlighting how financial interests, particularly from the pharmaceutical industry, manipulate studies and influence healthcare practices. Through her experiences and research, Attkisson reveals troubling trends in the integrity of medical practices, the decline of health outcomes despite increasing healthcare spending, and significant breaches in ethical standards regarding informed consent. She emphasizes the need for transparency and genuine informed consent in clinical studies while pointing towards emerging movements that aim to address the chronic health issues that have arisen in modern society. — **Key Points:** 1. **Manipulation of Research Funding:** – Government and pharmaceutical industries use taxpayer money, legally laundered through universities, to avoid accountability and generate biased studies. – Studies often serve more as narratives or propaganda rather than objective research. 2. **Attkisson’s Journey:** – Transitioned from believing in the purity of the medical establishment to uncovering serious issues and conflicts of interest in health reporting. – Investigated various medical scandals that revealed significant issues within the healthcare system. 3. **Case of the Smallpox Vaccine:** – Experienced awakening regarding the smallpox vaccine, questioning its safety and recognizing negative side effects. – Highlighted the controversial resumption of the smallpox vaccination program post-9/11. 4. **Reporting Adverse Effects:** – Discussed the discovery of potential blindness linked to Viagra, leading to the FDA acknowledging risks before Attkisson’s report aired. – Discovered that non-medical journalists often uncovered crucial health stories that medical reporters overlooked. 5. **Influence of Chemical Companies:** – Discussed the case of Tyrone Hayes, who found harmful effects of chemicals in water on frog populations but faced oppressive tactics by the chemical company to suppress his findings. 6. **Corruption in Scientific Publications:** – Noted that much of the scientific literature is unreliable due to financial interests and manipulation. – Described practices such as ghostwriting, where drug companies author studies that appear to be written by independent scientists. 7. **Changing Informed Consent Standards:** – Expressed concern over the declining standards of informed consent in medical research, citing historical examples of unethical practices. – Mentioned recent FDA rule changes allowing researchers to deem risks as minimal and not disclose them to study participants. 8. **Financial Influence on Medical Education:** – Explored how pharmaceutical companies influence medical education, skewing doctors’ understanding of medications and their side effects. 9. **Societal Health Crisis:** – Addressed the rising incidence of chronic health disorders among children and adults, despite increased spending on healthcare. – Critiqued the tendency to normalize health issues rather than address root causes tied to industrial food production. 10. **Positive Movements Amidst Challenges:** – Highlighted growing awareness and independence among the public and health professionals to address health issues overlooked by the establishment. – Recognized Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s efforts to bring attention to health crises and corruption within the medical field. Through these discussions, Attkisson advocates for a more critical examination of health practices and the importance of upholding informed consent to protect patient rights and public health.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
November 7, 2024 12:21 pm

Something to think about when you next go surfing at Coogee.

Mysterious Sydney beach blobs: Scientists uncover their complex composition (Phys.org, 6 Nov)

A multi-disciplinary team of scientists have made significant progress in understanding the origins of the mysterious black balls washing ashore on Sydney beaches.

A few weeks ago, thousands of sticky, round blobs washed up on shore after lifeguards first spotted them at Coogee beach, which left scientists with a series of questions about the origin and formation of the debris.

UNSW Science—partnering with UNSW’s Mark Wainwright Analytical Center (MWAC), DCCEEW Environmental Forensics, the NSW Environment Protection Authority (EPA), and Randwick Council—have run a series of analytical tests, to try and unravel this unusual marine mystery.

“At UNSW Science, we have been investigating the balls that appeared on Coogee Beach,” said Associate Professor Jon Beves, from the School of Chemistry, who led the investigation. “Our analyses show that the material is not natural and cannot be attributed solely to an oil spill. It is most consistent with human generated waste.”

Floaters! Maybe Mr Minns should have a quiet word with who or what is the CEO of Sydney Water.

Lawgi Dawes-Hall
Lawgi Dawes-Hall
November 7, 2024 12:36 pm

Ah, Bondi. Those were the days, sandbanks and tide just right, offshore breeze, a decent set comes through… and a turd drops in on you.

Lawgi Dawes-Hall
Lawgi Dawes-Hall
November 7, 2024 12:28 pm

Bit slow but it just dawned on me: Trump really does go down as one the remarkable Presidents no matter what unfolds from here. If any record of our times survives the dark age, no historian of ancient history will be able to write him off as an aberration. The garbage people said: no, we meant it.

Winston Smith
Winston Smith
November 7, 2024 1:14 pm

I used to be a great supporter of Nigel, but one thing that has stood out in the last year is that he’s always late to the fight, however when he tells the story, he’s in it right from the start.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vffbcKXM9-s
Hmmm… thinks the Winston.

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