Seems like Witkoff is actual SoS and Rubio is just an Assistant.
Open Thread – Mon 17 March 2025
- ANZAC Day Thread
- Open Thread – Thurs 24 April 2025
- WolfmanOz at the Movies #101
- Open Thread – Monday of the Angel 2025
- Between a rock and a hard place on May 3
I pinkie promise you that I didn’t make it up. I read it years ago when I was looking for…
SOHRAB Ahmari piece. Food for thought. https://firstthings.com/pope-francis-trad-icon/
Duchess Sophie Joins London’s Dawn Anzac Day Service
Cloward-Piven and the Migrant Invasion
Sky News reporter gets a tour of USS Minnesota.
Sky News goes inside the $5 billion US nuclear sub USS Minnesota as AUKUS comes under the spotlight ahead of the Federal Election (19 Mar)
Cool stuff!
Public education system blocks student access to Keep The Sheep websiteBy Tamara Hooper
Updated March 19 2025 – 8:53am, first published 6:00am
The Keep the Sheep campaign has strong support from regional communities and it was a Western Australian College of Agriculture student who discovered the WA Department of Education had blocked students and teachers in public schools from accessing the campaigns website. The Livestock Collective managing director, Holly Ludeman, caught up with Britalia Shearing contractor, Shane Argent, Kulin. Picture by Tamara Hooper.
Widespread shock and concern has been expressed over the Keep The Sheep campaign website being blocked in the Western Australian public school system, including the WA College of Agriculture (WACoA) sites.
Keep The Sheep organiser Ben Sutherland said the campaign took pride in its considerate and calm approach of its campaign messaging and the conduct of its organisers and supporters.
“We have questioned why the website was and still is blocked,” Mr Sutherland said.
“There is no explicit imagery or language and the focus is on rural communities, sporting groups, local businesses, farmers and live sheep export industry supply chain members, including shearers and transporters like myself.”
The establishment has decided it is misinformation and disinformation to disagree with it.
No doubt sites advocating greenie policies are not blocked. They are not ‘political’ according to those in charge, who happen to agree with them.
I don’t want to leave this all lonely at the end of the previous page.
Re defence, raised above, a few initial thoughts.
Revert to the 1911 model, but with a Regular Army and Air Force added.
The regular forces, Navy, Army and Air Force, are available for service anywhere.
Then build a volunteer home defence force, available only to serve in Australian territory, including the external territories, and territorial waters (coast guard).
Designate specific home defence units to protect the chain of forward airfields from Cocos to Townsville, and construct relevant fortifications for them to operate from.
Have local home defence units to develop a “porcupine” defence system for populated areas.
At some point when we had little boats arriving from the direction of Indonesia, I thought we had a system of home guard type “spotters” on the northern coast, all given the appropriate ways to contact authorities if they
noticed untoward activity via sea. Should be ongoing.
There are the three Regional Force Surveillance Units, in the Pilbara, Kimberley/Arnhem Land and Far North Queensland.
Modelled on the WW II Coastwatchers, station owners and tourism operators could usefully be signed up and provided with radio and cypher books. They would need to be enlisted as reserves, in the vague hope that the Geneva Conventions might give some protection.
No, an enemy from Asia would execute them as spies. It’s what they do.
Then they are up for war crimes, which is what we do.
Used to have this, up until the late 1990s.
They got Navy News sent to them, and were visited once a year.
The NAOU (Northern Australia Observer Unit) performed this role up north during the War in the Pacific. Their colour patch was a double diamond, which only the independent companies/commando squadrons wore.
Austfailure, under the charming witty Mr Albotross now had 1,000,000 international students…
Yet through the power of selective thinking this does not impact rental prices or job availability.
https://app.powerbi.com/view?r=eyJrIjoiYjhkYWFmYWUtNzJjYi00YWQzLTkwOTYtNGUzNmYyYzhlNjBmIiwidCI6ImRkMGNmZDE1LTQ1NTgtNGIxMi04YmFkLWVhMjY5ODRmYzQxNyJ9
Categories Year Measure
Higher Education- 2024- 498,170
VET- 2024- 386,521
Schools- 2024- 19,668
ELICOS- 2024- 141,323
Non-Award- 2024- 35,618
Nearly 5% of our population are on the visa mill/education train.
Enough! Close the borders until residential construction has caught up to the demand. Better still, send all the foreign students home, they can study online like all Australian students had to do during COVID lockdowns.
As for universities, they did quite well before the runaway international intakes and they can do it again. Until recently I worked in the tertiary education industry and know well what went on. In fact, there were more staff in universities in the 90s and early 00s than now and they were better paid.
Does that give percent include the Australian citizens?
Nope.
Migrants only.
That’s a lot of hiya education supposedly going on. What benefits do we get from it?
From the AJA…..
DID YOU KNOW HAMAS KILLED MORE THAN 60 DOGS ON 7 OCTOBER?
On October 7th 2023, more than 60 dogs were killed by Hamas and their fellow ‘resistance’ Islamists, like Palestinian Islamic Jihad, Fatah, PFLP and “civilians”.
Some dogs were even beheaded, what fun!
The Bibas family dog named ‘Tonto’ was shot dead as soon as Hamas entered their house on October 7.
Because killing innocent family pets is resistance.
Dogs contain the djinns of Shaytan (spirits of the devil) according to the Muz. Black dogs are particularly offensive to the Rachidun ( the rightly guided). A little hint there for the cops if they want to raid / arrest or control the muzmob. If anyone needs evidence, just watch the arrivals hall at any airport in the west.
When we lived in Borneo, many of the Chinese kept (dogs which they didnt look after), for the sole purpose of deterring Malay burglars.
Yum. Dobermans and Rottweilers rool.
My mate had them in Seth Afrika.
Isn’t that interesting?
I’ve never had one of those “Call Microsoft Technical Support” scams before.
Froze the computer, wouldn’t shut up.
Mate who has a computer business fixed it.
Bloody annoying.
Duk, are you wanting to become the Cat’s Cooper? If the war had continued for a little longer they would’ve starved to death. Their position was dire. There was also severe tension between the French, German and Italian cantons. Ultimately, you can have as much gold as the vaults can hold, but if there’s little food nor access to food , the gold is worth zero. Please stay awake.
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If the war had continued for a little longer they would’ve starved to death.
I think I pointed out our home ground advantage with respect to domestic resources (food production being a particular strength) no? … or did I dream it… not being ‘awake’ and all that?
Totally agree, Duk. To expand further – the great spaces of Oz nothing like Switzerland, where many of us have travelled.
There are considerable large tracts of land – particularly inhospitable – (known to locals – as in our valley) which could alter the equation.
On the other hand, I doubt if the Chinese would invade. Why would they – when they can isolate us from OS supplies – especially fuel. Furthermore, as the late Jim Molan predicted – they could shoot down the satellites, and cut the undersea cables that we rely upon for communication. et al.
Even so, we need, among the many, many other urgent issues, to consider internal communications at a grass level – no pun intended!
On the other hand, I doubt if the Chinese would invade. Why would they – when they can isolate us from OS supplies – especially fuel
Agreed, Chinas centre of gravity is the South China sea, not us here at the end of a very long and vulnerabe supply line. At most, they might want to knock us out of the war (hardly worth bothering given our limited combat power) or deny our landmass to US bases (again, hardly worth bothering as US bases here add little to combat operations in the South China sea)
I dont regard the US as a reliable ally in defending us here, and question the benefits of getting involved in a US/China conflict thousands of miles away.
You’re quite aware I referring to your comment that Switzerland did quite well.
Nazies hoarding money in Swiss banks doesn’t mean the country did “quite well”. Switzerland was very lucky it survived.
There was no real need for Hitler to try and invade Switzerland as annexation or dismemberment would have arrived soon enough if Germany had won the war.
Barring Spain and Portugal on the extreme western end ie opposite where HItler’s eyes were, Switzerland was the only neutral/allied country in continental Europe to avoid Nazi occupation. I would give them at least a pass mark for that.
I know a bit of a law but I’m still only a “bush lawyer,” the way I understand it:
A few other (palatable and unpalatable options):
Remember Kadir Vs Queen where Kadir had (obviously) been mistreating greyhounds. The case made it to the High Court and was thrown out on inadmissibility of (secretly recorded) evidence (by non-authorities).
Knowing the state of the State of NSW, I’m guessing Option 4 as an outcome.
The Grampian Jihadis appear to be suggesting the beak adopts Option 4 – plus a grovelling apology from Minns, Albanese etc, restoration of suspended nursing registrations, and the customary $2.4 million compensation for distress.
So if I am hospitalised, and one of these two walks into the room bearing a syringe, am I allowed to request they do not treat me?
Yes.
You have the right to refuse any and all treatment. A Court Order may be taken out, but that’s a different story, and usually only done in extremis, and after a lengthy legal process.
Unless the government suspends the right to bodily integrity – an extreme last resort used mainly for the insane and the entire population for the Wu flu.
ghod no, you bigot!!
You will probably be charged with wacism.
It’s not clear on what basis the conversation was held. I mean, if you communicate with a video blogger, surely you expect to be recorded.
Depends on the provider; some have policies where all conversations are backed up; I think ChatRoulette or whatever it is doesn’t record nor store anything.
I think the Muesli lawyers will be arguing the platform, while randomly generating conversations between random users, is not a “public platform.” It’s not like they were in Martin Place with a megaphone; it was a one-to-one conversation.
The lawyer will argue they were recorded against their will and without their knowledge or consent; which you need in NSW.
The other side, my side, will be arguing it doesn’t matter if it is public or not. Any future death threats or claims of prior violence/murder should be brought to the authorities.
Perhaps a technicality… that authorities had permission to get the video but it shouldn’t have been leaked by the Israeli guy?
That’s my five cents. Happy for anyone to add to this or gladly contradict me.
When this initially happened, and the two defendants claimed they “had already killed some Jews” I suggested it would be worthwhile going over the post mortem and patient notes of any deaths in the unit – specifically narcotic doses.
I haven’t heard of this happening as part of any investigation.
Has anyone else?
He is not in Australian jurisdiction so is able to say or do whatever.
It was apparently on chatruletka that they conversed, it connects users randomly from around the world for video chat. The site says it doesn’t record user content so probably no luck there.
But the idea you can go on a broadcasting site while sitting in your hospital break room where any staff could walk in, connecting you to a user who you don’t even know and you don’t know where they are or who could be in the room with them – that anyone would think this is a private conversation is just ridiculous. But then I’m only using common sense, I’m not a judge or a lawyer.
I’d think one would probably witness a lot of abusive crap on such a site; anonymous mediums like the chat things tend to attract those types.
Besides the fact IMHO these two should’ve been charged with terror offences and placed in a hole, they shouldn’t be broadcasting anything personal in Dept of Health/Hospital garb.
Also you’d have to be totally clueless to go on such a site and expect to not be recorded, there are heaps of videos out there from such chatroulette sites.
The popularity of those sites is random people interacting and the funny or interesting moments that arise from that, or just people doing silly pranks – so people are absolutely going to be recording to capture those moments. The lawyer will be hoping for a technologically clueless judge who knows nothing about such sites. You can’t have an expectation of privacy on such a site.
I expect Nadir and Lebdeh will argue they were lying to Veifer about killing or not treating Jews, just to get a rise out of him (“a joke“), since he had said he was from Israel (“The Holy Land”) and they assumed it was a private conversation. Regarding the bit about predicting Veifer would go to hell, that the two could exude such anti-Semitism with little to no provocation might indicate it was their genuine belief, but while that opinion is vile it’s not illegal like murder.
So they were only pretending they had killed jews? How very Taqiyya of them!
I’ve warned Cats before (particularly those unfamiliar with the Sydneystan CBD) to be very careful when traversing the surrounds of the Drowning Centre (especially the entrance on Liverpool St) while various “legal matters”* are scheduled there.
Otherwise you may end up inadvertently becoming physically involved in court matter related imbroglio contretemps, before, during or (especially) after these matters are heard.
*Usually those involving moozleys.
Castlereagh St exit can be scary, as I once found out.
A young man will face a Darwin judge for the first time, after he allegedly broke into one of the NT’s top wildlife attractions and chased a baby crocodile in a wild break-in.
NT Police have charged a 19-year-old man after he allegedly broke into Crocodylus Park and interfered with a baby crocodile.
Jeremy Peckham is alleged to have broke into the popular wildlife park before midnight on March 12, 2025, and allegedly forced entry into multiple buildings.
While inside police claim he took a baby crocodile from its enclosure and allegedly carried it around by the neck, and took selfies with it.
CCTV footage shows the man carrying the baby crocodile around the workshop, stopping multiple times to take pictures with the croc in hand.
The footage also shows him placing the crocodile on the ground and allegedly chasing it, while seemingly recording on his phone.
Police allege he later stole a Holden Rodeo Utility, which he used to ram through multiple gates.
A group of ducks was also allegedly mown down by the stolen vehicle.
The vehicle was later found burnt out at Casuarina Beach.
NT Police said Strike Force Trident and Dog Operations Unit members tracked down Mr Peckham at a home in Malak about 2.15pm on Tuesday, where they arrested him.
He has been charged with burglary, four counts of damage to property, two counts of trespass – entering without authority and theft.
He was further charged with a count of take/interfere with protected wildlife.
There were multiple driving charges laid as well, including driving, using/riding motor vehicle without consent, being a learner driver with no person in front seat and driving without L plates when required.
Mr Peckham is listed to appear in Darwin Local Court today.
Hopefully to be sentenced to a 20 metre start on the local mudflats, amongst other penalties. Crocs can do a considerable speed on land.
NT News
No name, so must be Third Nations.
Name (Peckham) has been dropped.
Rapist murderer in Louisiana put to death by nitrogen hypoxia almost 27 years after being convicted.
Must be torture for the family seeing the appeals process and all the machinations by the do gooders and Democrat law firms.
There should be a time limit put on dragging out these capital cases and punishments for those who conspire to drag them out through legal means, including disbarment and imprisonment for the grandstanding, dirty sanctimonious lawyers.
The ridiculous idea that these deaths must be made painless is also stupid.
These monsters often subjected their victims to extended periods of pain and fear.
Just execute them in the cleanest, quickest way possible after ensuring the judgements are sound by a generous, but not absurd appeals process.
I disagree. It isn’t herd morality, it’s womanish morality.
It should also be noted that society, or that part of it that presumes to take it upon itself to govern us, has gone well past Nietzsche’s 130 year old prediction: Today we don’t even bother to “render him undangerous”, instead we make him the victim, insist the general public live alongside him and feel bad about putting him in a circumstance whereby he had to commit a crime.
Abhorrent crimes.
Abhorrent punishment.
The State has no right to end a person’s life (unless a State of war or “extreme circumstances”).
If there was no state, what would most often happen to the murderer?
What is the natural state of affairs WRT murdering scum?
If the state did not interfere to usurp justice, what would be the response of most families and townsfolk to a murderer in their midst?
I never said there’s no State Arky, nor did I say there should be no State.
I also never said the perp should be walking around the community.
Stop making shit up.
I simply don’t believe the State has the right to end a life (by way of capital punishment, euthanasia or abortion {or other options where lives at are immediate risk).
Just stating a belief like you were, lighten up.
The state hasn’t got the right, it has the DUTY to do so, if it takes upon itself the function of justice.
And I didn’t say you said anything.
I put some things to you to consider.
I put it to you to consider what would happen if there was no state.
What would happen is that the victim families of heinous murders would kill the murderer, and this would, indeed, be just.
Now IF the state takes upon itself to stop that from occurring, if it says to everyone “You cannot take justice upon yourselves, only we can punish wrongdoers”.
They MUST ensure that punishments are fair and fit the crimes committed.
And the only JUST penalty for many heinous crimes is death.
If justice is about fixing what is lost, then how does the victim’s families/society regain that by someone’s death, instead of lifelong incarceration.
Oh, you mean revenge, not Justice.
By that measure, murderers shouldn’t be punished at all.
Punishment is a component of justice.
Justice isn’t merely the restoration of what was lost, because as you have already stated, many things are irrecoverable, and these things, like the life of a child, are those that are often most precious.
Justice isn’t restoration, it is a principle of ensuring that evil has a cost to the evil doer, in proportion to the evil done.
Death is cheaper and works, despite the best effforts of parole boards.
Justice, or at least the punishment part, is also about deterrence – or at least used to be. As such, it is not just about restitution for the immediate victims family, but also protecting the rest of us. No doubt there will be research that purports to convince us that this isn’t the case – but I expect the reality is different.
Agreed.
Considered.
And disagreed.
Yes, if a Muesli is lunging at people with knives, cars of peace or other extreme examples, a life should be taken where lives can immediately be saved. A life should remain impounded where release may result in similar or such a crime negates liberty.
They aren’t put in solitary confinement.
They continue to victimise people as long as they live.
They taint victims families, abuse legal processes, they rape, steal from and bash, and sometimes murder fellow inmates, they do stuff to the guards, they continue, their entire lives to create more and more victims, because society has been highjacked by those unable to admit the obvious truth: some crimes deserve death,
“If they kill an inmate,” that’s not my argument. Red herrings all around Arky. “Tainting” (sic) families? They shouldn’t have outside access so another red herring. Continue to “create more and more victims?” Perhaps. Some will be a pain in the ass, even in prison.
You won’t change my mind and I obviously won’t change yours.
The only difference is you’re the boss (not Tony Danza) and you think you have the right to end a life if you’re the State. I simply disagree.
Everything will be revealed in the fulness of time (and I can probably use 1000s of examples where you’ve rejoiced at an inmate’s death-by-State who later turned out to be innocent).
(Obviously, again: The above does not apply to war or situations of lives at stake).
I simply don’t believe the State has the right to end a life (by way of capital punishment, euthanasia or abortion {or other options where lives at are immediate risk).
After a lifetime of generally believing that ‘some crims deserve to die’, the last 5 years has shown me that, unfortunately, the legal system is not only imperfect, it is corrupt, and we CANNOT trust the state with overseeing something so final as execution – not now that they have demonstrated how willing they are to lie to us to manipulate us. Its too easy for the state to label problematic citizens as ‘terrorists’ etc and thus do away with them.
How many juries of my fellow citizens would have been happy to label me a ‘deadly threat to society’ for what I said during Covid?
There are no guarantees in life.
You can get hit by a car, suffer cancer or a natural disaster.
People are imperfect, and so are the systems they produce. And at times descend into irrationality.
None of this is good reason to abandon what has worked since time began: the just execution of murderers.
Fear of what the system is capable of when in a state of disfunction is a poor reason to abandon fundamental principles.
Furthermore, it goes against a principle of diagnosis of systems: you only change one thing at a time.
If you respond to a misjustice (covid idiocy) by retreating into another misjustice (soft on criminals) you have changed now two things before diagnosing and curing the problem (the covid idiocy) a third, and a fourth, and so on misjustice will inevitable result, as the system can no longer be diagnosed.
People are imperfect, and so are the systems they produce. And at times descend into irrationality.
None of this is good reason to abandon what has worked since time began: the just execution of murderers.
I would have thought not trusting the state to make the decision is a perfectly sound reason for not allowing the state to make the decision. Im not arguing for release…. life imprisonment removes the risk to society without removing the ability to reverse the sentence if later proven wrong.
And, before you start arguing about the cost …. compare the cost of prisons to our vast welfare state.
Yup, Arky would be here rejoicing the death-by-State of Carlos Deluna who spent years, as Arky says, “clogging up the legal system with appeals.” Killed by the State in 1989.
2006 more evidence proves he was innocent.
Or how about Lena Barker, a down syndrome woman, found to be innocent 60 years after her death-by-State.
Shall I go on? Or is it only where “it’s so bleedin’ obvious they did it” (which was the case in the two cases, of thousands, I just listed?)
Because “no system is perfect” and “you might even get hit by a bus.”
Coming home very strong Arky! LOL!
You’re getting very emotional and slightly hysterical.
Which is the opposite of what one should be when considering justice.
Every case you could possibly cite would be outweighed many, many times by those cases of people murdered by those not justly executed who went on to kill again.
You still have not explained why we have to KILL said prisoners, rather than say lock them up for life?
Then life should mean life. Can’t have it both ways.
But victims do have a moral right, and indeed an obligation to end the life of perpetrators who have wronged them. If you don’t support delegating this to the state, how do you propose that justice be served?
There’s several problems with this statement:
On a side note, I find it interesting Israel has capital punishment (to this day) but only Eichmann suffered it in 1962.
As a victim, I certainly own the right to inflict capital punishment, so I indeed speak for at least one class of victim.
Victimhood is not a popularity contest, so whether most victims want something is immaterial. Victims have an inherent right to justice, and hence capital punishment. If they choose not to enforce it, then they let down future victims, as well as themselves.
I make no circular argument. Capital punishment is justified, and victims may perform it themselves, or delegate to the state. What they should not do, is abjure their right – the consequences of which we see every day.
As Instapundit is wont to say, the police are not there to protect the public, they are there to protect the criminals from the public.
Until fairly recently, capital punishment was pretty common solution for a whole range of crimes (murder, rape, horse stealin…).
Arguably this kept the proportion of the population who are psychopaths down to manageable levels.
Now of course, the state raises their children…
“The State has no right to end a person’s life (unless a State of war or “extreme circumstances”).”
Can’t agree enough.
Are there people who live and yet don’t deserve to?
Undoubtedly.
Are there people who die and don’t deserve to?
Undoubtedly.
When you can give life back to those who didn’t deserve to die, then talk to me about killing those that don’t deserve to live.
War and self-defense excepted, killing is never an option, IMO.
Giving the state the “right” to kill people only ends up with the current situation in Canada – “Well, I’m really sorry you are in such pain. We can’t afford to fix you up, sorry. Have you considered Medical Assisted Dying?”
Good point.
The same do gooders who are too squeamish to do the right thing with murderers, are currently overseeing the deaths of many, many more times innocent people who are being given very poor options in order to save money.
Eliminating the death penalty, (a just good) in no way has prevented the state from killing people.
Quite the opposite, these things seem to be correlated.
Consider: which English speaking jurisdictions do not have the death penalty?
Think of a few.
Australia.
New Zealand.
Canadia.
California.
UK.
Victoria.
Which jurisdictions also had the most ridiculous covid stupidities?
Which jurisdictions wanted to make you get jabbed?
Which jurisdictions are happy to eliminate inconvenient citizens via “euthanasia”?
In practice, illogical, feminised, over emotional thoughts about the death penalty are fully correlated with the state killing you.
Not vice versa.
Going soft on monsters doesn’t deter the state. It encourages it.
You call me “hysterical” to re-state my rejection of your rejoicing over the cold, calculated State-sponsored murder of a person who is imprisoned and no longer a threat to society and, in many cases, such people have been innocently killed.
As noted above, you would’ve rejoiced the murdering of many other innocents Arky; how does it feel? I named two innocent people. There are many many others.
Then you (randomly) cite “getting hit by a bus” or “getting cancer,” which actually is getting hysterical.
And I can list countries that have the death penalty:
-Saudi Arabia,
-Iran,
-Pakistan,
-Egypt,
-Indonesia,
-Iraq,
-Bangladesh,
-Nigeria,
-Sudan,
-Yemen,
-Afghanistan,
Somalia,
-United Arab Emirates,
-Qatar,
-Bahrain,
-Jordan,
-Kuwait. And the US of course (more Muesli than ever).
There’s no real stats or evidence (either way) to suggest death penalty works or not, I’ll concede that but even that fact should speak volumes.
So, to finish up Arky, Allah Ackbar!
Out of interest, are you a female?
Arky, what a dumb question. Please don’t get personal.
You idiot!!!
(Excuse my example in ironic self-subversion)
You are female, aren’t you?
Ladies please. This is the Cat.
Going soft on monsters doesn’t deter the state. It encourages it.
So, I am a monster because the state locked me up… should they have just executed me at the point of arrest?
The AFP lied in court (I proved this with video evidence .. they didnt just get it wrong, they knew I was innocent and fitted me up anyway – I filmed them admitting I was innocent just before they arrested me. They were just following orders to make an example of a prominent protester ‘pour encourager les autres’). Three AFP officers nevertheless colluded to manufacture evidence against me and swear it in court. They tried to get me 10 years in jail and would likely have succeeded without my video evidence… how many other innocent people have they lied about and got worse imposed? Why should I trust the system after that?
LOL. RFK Jnr will be on the case.
Also watch out today for a lot of nonsense about JFK to be tweeted claiming it is from the new JFK files release when its been around for years.
Caveat lector.
CIA Files Reveal JFK Was Killed By Seed Oils
so, I was right – a conspiracy by powerful corporate interests it was!
ACT legal establishment circles the wagons. Won’t let me link (why is that) but TheirABC tells us:
What bollocks. The fact is, the establishment was embarrassed and exposed by the inquiry into the ACT DPP’s incompetent and biased conduct.
As a jurist and lawyer, Sofronoff knocks these mediocrities into a cocked hat.
The focus of their fury is that Soffie’s report was released before they could surpress it. Need I say more?
As for ‘serious corrupt conduct’ and ‘could constitute a criminal offence’ – I doubt that Walter is shivering in his boots, or waiting for a 4 am knock on his door. It’s huffing and puffing in defence of their mates. Nothing will come of it.
Any update on the ‘serious corrupt conduct’ of the erstwhile ACT DPP* who led the legendary witch hunt in the first place?
No, of course not. We’ll just have to wait for the matter involving the ACT police who are suing him.
*Whose name I’ve thankfully forgotten – oh fork, no I haven’t – Shane Dumbgeld.
Adams seem as wet as they come looking at what I can find of his bio/history. Public defenders office, various positions as an advocate before being appointed to the bench. Sofnonoff’s bio is much longer, distinguished and importantly fully public.
Wonder if Sofronoff will appeal findings higher.
This peek under the skirts ( literally) of ACT justice isn’t looking good. Any word from the Chief Justice on the head of the DPP placing a misleading affidavit into evidence?
Sweden, Spain, Portugal to name a few, also remained neutral in WW2. Norway was until UK intervened and forced Germany to counter.
Spain was iffy at best, and you left out the Irish Republic. Sweden was supplying arms to Germany, while Portugal was quietly aligned with the UK.
Switzerland was the closest to being truly neutral, but both sides essentially treated it almost like an enemy, and the country wasn’t in a good position with lots of internal tension and external threats.
Spain equipped and sent roughly 40,000 volunteers to fight against the Soviets.
Many of them who survived the Eastern front were subsequently incorporated into the Wehrmacht and some were still fighting in Berlin in 1945.
Volunteers are a nice way of avoiding entangling the state in a conflict.
I didn’t miss the Irish, given I said, to name but a few. You also have Turkey, without exhausting the list. I don’t think Sweden was supplying arms, but iron ore, yes. The Portuguese played neutrality beautifully, as did the Swiss.
Sweden was the go-to for ball-bearings for both England & Germany …
Have to admit the swedes are a pretty shitty nation.
Ya think.
They supplied Tungsten to the Nazis until threatened by the Brits. They also delayed approval for the US to establish a critical convoy support base in the Azores for 18 months at the cost of thousands of lives.
They hosted huge Nazi intelligence facilities.
Salazar was a Nazi.
Neutrality is about keeping yourself off the map as a belligerent which the Portuguese did. As a neutral you can trade with belligerents; I think the only exception is military wares. While they were organizing terms with the US they were expanding the air bases and increasing their capacity as well as providing cover to convoys. Again, well played to Salazar.
Among the approximately one million foreign volunteers and conscripts who served in the Wehrmacht during World War II were ethnic Belgians, Czechs, Dutch, Finns, Danes, French, Hungarians, Norwegians, Poles, Portuguese, Swedes, Swiss along with people from Great Britain, Ireland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, and the Balkans.
Spain had an Infantry Division “The Blue Division” on the Eastern Front for the entirety of the war, about 47,000 men, but part of the Wehrmacht OOB and organised by the Franco government.
5th SS Pz Div Wiking had between 100 – 300 volunteers from Sweden, but as they had no official permission from the Swedish Government, correct.
The true amount of volunteers has been well and truly lost in the mists of time.
Russia certainly has a case to claim that Europe was invading it – not just Germany
I have about five different histories of foreign soldiers who served in the German armed forces, they tell remarkable stories, not only of the war, but of the societies they belonged to and their reasoning for doing what they did.
One of the more well known “volunteers” Sven Hassell author of the Legion of the Damned series …….
The British Frei Corps managed, at its zenith, 38 …….
Tho only 4 were “believers” (2 were executed post-war) the others to get out of the POW system ………
That list looks suspiciously like today’s EU.
Spain and Portugal were peripheral to Hitlers interests after France fell. He mainly looked for Lebensraum in the East. Sweden wasn’t strategically important after Hitler secured air and naval bases in Norway, and they continued to supply iron ore to Germany anyway.
Hitler pushed hard for access via Spain to Gibraltar. Franco said No!
Despite the help from the Condor Legion during the Civil War.
Spain and Portugal would have been very handy to the Germans in 1940/1. You take Gibraltar you effectively close the Mediterranean to the Royal Navy. And their position in North Africa becomes almost untenable.
So was Iran. Yet somehow lost more capita than any belligerent due to British & Russian invasion in 1941.
It doesn’t help you either way if you’re in a strategically significant geographical position.
Taking out the rubbish.
https://x.com/NiohBerg/status/1902001382787277017?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1902001382787277017%7Ctwgr%5E60f2848f24b7bae16c81d61da5b99f76c51dfdbb%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Face.mu.nu%2F
For those interested in the JFK files.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/03/here-are-some-biggest-bombshells-uncovered-internet-sleuths/
Hmmm.
I am somewhat sceptical of “inside knowledge” which comes to light post facto.
Bad romance you say…
“Albo grasped the side of Lydias hips, pushed her away and pulled her to him with a slap. Again and again with more force and velocity. Lydia pressed her face deeper into the cushion grunting into the foam at each thrust. The wet friction of Lydia, tight around Albo, the sight of her open, stretched around him, the cleft of her body, it tore a climax out of him with a final lunge. Like a lepidopterist mounting a tough-skinned insect with a too blunt pin he screwed himself into her.”
/ eyebleach – get your eyebleach here….
Lydia whispered lustfully ” Peter Dutton” Say it Louder yelled Albo as he pounded away like a wet lettuce leaf.
Your post has created such a hideous mental image that you may have permanently brained my damage.
Yellow card
Automatic red.
Take a shower, son.
Alone.
The “lettuce leaf” maneuver .. irresistible for political groupies ….. LOL!
and pulled her to him with a slap.
DEATH PENALTY!!!
(Imagine, it didn’t even take Arky’s arguments to convince me but this did!!!)
😛
Indeed. They can’t say they weren’t warned.
@Fivixz
Give this a read
I don’t think there’s the slightest doubt that Oswald was nothing more than a tool in the plot to kill JFK, probably undertaken by the CIA and/or the FBI and it was “arranged” for him to be killed shortly thereafter, with the FBI using his death as the excuse for closing down the investigation.
@nicksortor
Uh, what is this?
CIA-connected Gary Underhill began exposing a CIA clique who supposedly ass*ssinated JFK and ended up being found dead in his department with a gunshot wound behind his EAR?
And the coroner ruled it a suicide?
WTF?
“Underhill” obviously an assumed name
Moonlighted as a hobbit.
You only need to look up Clinton murders to see how corrupt the USA is.
Here Are Some of the Biggest Bombshells Uncovered by Internet Sleuths in the Newly Released JFK Files
BREAKING: Corrupt Obama Judge Chutkan Temporarily Blocks Lee Zeldin From Clawing Back $20 Billion From Biden EPA Slush Fund
What to do.
Ignore the judge.
That’s the point. These protests are organised and funded. There’s nothing organic about them.
Anti-Tesla protests funded by big-time California Dem donor – whose ex-husband is close pal of Elon Musk
Okaaaaay…psychiatrist and cheated upon ex-wife of Musk mate.
Gee there’s a lot to unpack there. KD could have a go.
Ponder, If You Will, the Monumental Effort and Stupidity It Took to Ruin ‘Snow White’
Pretty obvious that Zeigler was hired because she can act, sing, dance, and fit into the costumes. Plus, she looks like vintage Snow White- (ie pre-pubescent head and mind, fully mature body- which is Hollywood Hot Right Now. For which, see last year’s Oscar-botherer Poor Things, for which the whole creative team should be seriously investigated).
The idea she is “luddino” and therefore 1) all of her success is despite racism and 2) all of her failures are because racism, is just Schroedinger’s Victimhood.
*If Dinklage doesn’t admit to himself that he got off the ground as an actor because he can act, sing, dance, and fit into the costumes, then he’s a tit.
@RogerJStoneJr
INDISPUTABLE:
The Dallas Police Department examination indicated Lee Harvey Oswald, whom the Warren Commission alleges fired a $26 WWII-vintage Italian carbine, had no powder burns on his chest, arms, or hands.
Impossible, therefore, for him to have shot JFK!
Would you expect powder burns?
Powder traces maybe, but burns?
I think the term they use is “gunshot residue”, which is not generally visible to the naked eye.
What we got here, folks, is a lotta, lotta people desperately searching for the “Aha! I was right all along!” moment.
Fired a few rifles in my time, but never got a powder burn. Not even an odour.
Are you sure you need a rifle for the odour?
😀
Only time I’ve picked up an odour is after a range practice with the M60 – never after firing a rifle.
I reckon I’ve put several thousand rounds through rifles, shotguns, and handguns – and never got a “powder burn”.
Obviously I am a Soviet spy,
Video: Dolphins swim near SpaceX’s Dragon capsule with Crew-9 inside, moments after splashdown
Linky fixed.
I’m curious: Has there ever been a case where a state premier has sought asylum in in another country e.g. Ecuador or Paraguay or wherever ?
Or have they always been confident that they would not be charged with anything?
I’m only interested in the history, nothing current.
Well, there was this shah. Then there was this Syrian
president, both off the top of my head,
Idi Amin
I asked ChatGPT-40-mini.
It also said KRudd sought refuge in the USA in 2019 after his political career although that wasn’t actually claiming asylum, LOL.
Sounds like no Australian Premier has ever actually done it.
So the EPA slush fund would buy 5 nuke submarines.
Fxxxxxxxxx amazing.
Virginias are 4b each.
Re: the 2 muzzie self declared killers and ex nurses plan to have the video exchange with Israeli blogger not admitted into court. The relevant sections of the Evidence Act 1995 are:
EVIDENCE ACT 1995 – SECT 84 Exclusion of admissions influenced by violence and certain other conduct
EVIDENCE ACT 1995 – SECT 90 Discretion to exclude admissions
EVIDENCE ACT 1995 – SECT 138 Exclusion of improperly or illegally obtained evidence
In a fair and just world none would apply. There was no coercion, threats of violence on the muzzies, nor were the video confessions improperly or illegally obtained. The confessions were arrogantly and willingly done by the muzzies to a known Israeli blogger.
The public interest test should apply and if it does CRIMES ACT 1900 – SECT 93Z will apply which allows for a prison sentence of up to 3 years and a fine of $11000.
In an unjust world the court will probably say they have been punished enough by losing their job and profession.
I don’t trust our courts at all, particularly when it comes to “minorities,” including Mueslis and left-wing defendants such as Greenie protesters.
And woe betide you getting a fair trial as a conservative in Victoria, as George Pell for one found out.
Executing him after the original verdict woulda saved the state a lot of embarrasment about the result of the appeal.
In RortsR’Us News:
Almost every University of Oxford student screened for ADHD was marked as having it after a 90-minute-assessment by an unqualified expert – meaning they could have extra time in exams.
The Beloved has just come back from the doctors, and he looks like Bruce Willis after a fight with the Russians! Poor man got sunburned in Bali and it all went wrong from there.
It’s the first time I’ve ever seen him completely bald (forget about all the dressings which sort of clothe his pate). Guys…beware. If you are thinning on top wear a hat. Please.
I have known well a few individuals who spent time in prison for killing people.
One was a case of a brawl, one was a case of negligence, another was a horrendous case of, again, terrible negligence.
In none of these cases was it murder, and none of those people were monsters.
These are not the people we are speaking of when we speak of a modern capital murder case in an English speaking jurisdiction.
Capital cases are against a tiny, tiny, percent of those who have killed.
It is those who did so in horrific ways and demonstrated heinous and callous disregard for human life.
Often incapable of remorse.
We are speaking of monsters, not just killers.
These people are a category apart, and represent a challenge to anyone attempting to argue either side of the capital punishment debate.
If we were still routinely hanging every Tom dick or Harry who just happened to kill someone, I too would have reservations.
We aren’t.
We are dealing with a particular species of monster.
So, you’re admitting its relative then, which raises even more problems.
When do you cross the line from “criminal” to “monster?” Everyone would have a different opinion. I think a person who steals granny’s purse is a monster; but I wouldn’t have them killed. Is murder just enough, what if it was quick, slow, involved torture or rape? What is repeat offender? What if it was a repeat drink driver who killed twice?
Again Arky, you’re making yourself Judge and executioner; dangerous and quite authoritarian of you, Sharia even.
Anyway, a side issue. Notwithstanding all of the examples above of innocent people that have been killed which I won’t repeat but your slant about “monsters clogging up the appeals process” is literally abhorrent given many turn out to be innocent, or were given crappy lawyers or juries (pre or post death).
In short and no further comment Arky: You can stand on the side of death penalty along with all of the Islamic countries that never had a reformation or, alternately, with the greater West who have. The US is an outlier (for many reasons, notwithstanding State rights and a deeply rooted fundamentalist religion).
Covid is a distraction squirrel.
You are unable to distinguish?
That’s a shame.
Just because something belongs on a spectrum, doesn’t mean it can’t be categorised.
Colours are on a spectrum.
You still know the difference between red and blue?
Let’s summarise what we have learnt so far,
You stated “the state hasn’t got the right” (to put criminals to death).
Which I countered by stating that if “the state” usurps the natural function of justice which belongs to those who have been wronged, it must ensure the punishment fits the crime.
You have not countered this argument, at all.
There are crimes so heinous that most people would consider death the appropriate punishment. (A consistent majority throughout the decades favour the death penalty).
In making this argument I put aside several serious flaws in your statement, (what are these “rights” of which you speak? Where do they come from? Is it really the “state” who condemns criminals? I thought it was a jury, theoretically drawn from citizens from that person’s locale and cohort).
I put aside those faults in your statement to get to the immediate heart of what I took to be your point.
Lets continue:
You then pointed to historical cases of what are later reported to be miscarriages of justice in death penalty cases.
I respond with the obvious fact that many, many, many more people have died subsequently because someone was not put to death and subsequently reoffended.
You have not countered this point either.
Instead you got side tracked by my discussion with Duk on his growing distrust of the “state” due to the covid mess.
And so you began banging on about Islam.
Latest: I state that I have known killers, and the issue we face today isn’t capital punishment for every killer, it is a small sub group, not just of killers, but of murderers who are even a considered for the death penalty.
Which you responded to with a logical mess about not being able to draw lines, disregarding that we do that all the time with all manner of things, based on a variety of criteria, for a large number of reasons.
But with respect to the death penalty, the line is drawn at where the punishment is in proportion to the offence, a principle used in all types of legal settings.
Aren’t the cases of your mates Manslaughter?
Arky,
I read a few of your earlier statements and I think you have a few problems… I’ll be as brief as can be but have to make a few points:
You cannot prioritise both speed and accuracy. You’ve contradicted yourself by saying you want both a “generous, but not absurd” appeals process but are also disgusted at appeals gobbling up time and resources (without conceding such appeals often find errors in the trial).
Many of the States and countries you list have lower violent crime rates than the US (not Islamic heresy laws). If deterrence were a strong argument, death penalty states would have fewer murders than non-death penalty states, but this is not consistently observed. Countries without death penalty should be higher.
You criticise the State as overreaching (e.g., COVID measures, likely correctly) but simultaneously argue that the state must carry out executions. If the state is prone to abuse power in other areas, why trust it to fairly administer the death penalty? You acknowledge that governments can be irrational or corrupt but do not apply that scepticism to capital punishment. Strange given you “bag” government all day long here, every day.
You also said earlier: If the State didn’t exist, communities wouldn’t execute murderers, so the state has a duty to do the same. However, if my memory serves me, ancient societies executed people for theft, adultery, political dissent and all sorts of other reasons.
Proportionality: You say “justice isn’t restoration” but also that punishment must be “in proportion to the crime.” Huh? If proportionality is key, then execution fails as a punishment for crimes like rape or non-lethal assault, since the victim was not killed, but still damaged/hurt (sometimes irrevocably). If justice is about making criminals pay an equivalent cost, then perhaps kidnappers kidnapped, rapists should be raped, pedos pedo-ised etc… to “even the ledger?” Ya know, eye for an eye!?
Sliding scale criminality: Minor criminal, major criminal, accidental criminal, repeat minor/major criminal, monster… who defines this? The line between criminal and monster is definitely relative—it shifts based on who’s judging, cultural norms, personal experiences, and the crime itself. You told me not to get emotive yet this term is emotional. There is no “monsters law” that I’m aware of (except that M0nty is 100% wrong 100% of the time).
(And just from DJT’s experience in the US, some juries are bad hombres in some areas if you fit a certain complexion/outlook and, yes, you may win an appeal at a higher court but, according to you that just takes up peoples’ time.)
Many of the States and countries you list have lower violent crime rates than the US
Don’t care.
That isn’t what it’s about, at all.
Even if you could factor in all the variables.
Which you can’t.
You used the argument so I contradicted it and now you say you can’t use these variables! LOL!
You are confused and have misread my point to somehow in your head turn it to the opposite.
Let me restate to help you:
If “the state” usurps natural justice by forbidding citizens from dealing with murderers, it has taken on a duty to ensure murderers are dealt with to a level that satisfy the citizens that justice is done.
A simple point.
Firstly, Lee Harvey Oswald shot dead President John F Kennedy and then, less than one hour later, shot dead Officer J. D. Tippit.
Secondly, Oswald acted alone.
Finally, there was, is and never will be any great conspiracy. However it’s good that the files have been released, the murders happened over 61 years ago.
It’s the Australian media disease: not only as a star on the Sky News network do you get 8+ weeks of annual leave (a month over Christmas and another month mid-year) but anytime you want another week off, you just take it and the audience can get stuffed.
Peta Credlin is such a princess. Because she’s a celebrated former LNP staffer, she feels no obligation to turn up – and so she’s having an unscheduled week off.
She’s very good – which is why those like me tune in for her analysis. But when she handballs her 6pm weekday slot to a humourless nerd like Caleb Bond, her audience tunes out and goes elsewhere to the abundance of Foxtel competition like the GB News brekky show on Foxtel channel 658.
So there’s nothing for me to watch on Sky News tonight except Sharri Markson’s show at 8pm (which I tape for viewing tomorrow).
I quite like Caleb Bond, he is a serious commentator imho. But each to his own. None of us knows where Credlin is or what she is doing, so maybe when she returns there will be some interesting television (or not). We have dropped Sky after dark to one to two hours since they repeat topics ad infinitum and there are some youtubes and movies to cast in the meantime.
Anyone who subscribes to the idea that there is no justice will be bolstered by this:
JFK FILES: JFK Jr Warned That Joe Biden Was a Traitor to the U.S. – Geller Report
60 years on the teat, a traitor and corrupt pervert yet he’ll die peacefully in bed.
Not even his dogs liked him.
Showing canine good taste, as they do.
Cronkite, I’m sorry, but that assessment/warning was incomplete. Of course, he was a corrupt, treasonous prick. But what Jr. left out was that he was also a thicko with no saving graces.
Chuck Schumer Mocks ‘Greedy’ Americans Who Want Less Taxes, Less Government Control
Naturally, unless you’re a retard like Schumer you’d prefer to pay less tax and have less government control of your life.
Exxxcelllent, give it to them Schumer, show the electorate your total contempt, it will go down a treat.
Kerry Packer would have given Schumer both barrels, metaphorically speaking.
BTW, too much “governmental control” is fascism or communism.
Here Are 7 Astonishing Economic Charts That Will Absolutely Blow Your Mind
The JFK files are a total waste of time, except for elements on the Right that go for conspiracy theories. If there was anything that even remotely pointed the finger at state involvement, it would have been scrubbed out of existence ages ago.
Meme
Is this the same JFK Jnr whose recklessness killed two women?
The Kennedy clan are pretty adept at putting sheilas in the drink.
If anyone wants to take a look at what “monsters” on death row look like, Texas has a public list of death rowers with pics and details of their saintly deeds.
It’s here. Nice bunch.
Get a load of this saint.
This means she killed the victim and opened her stomach to remove the baby out of the womb…. or in reverse: she opened the victims stomach while still alive, removed the baby and then killed the victim.
So was a Register (Democrat) Doctor?
Or a Demonrat nurse. I’d bet my net worth it was a TDS’er.
Lysander, I’m sympathetic to your views about state execution, but sometimes demons shouldn’t be allowed to roam the earth.And this one is pure demonic.
I can 100% agree with your view, I just can’t rejoice in it (as Arky does) nor participate in such activities/relishing of it myself.
Some serious baby rabies here.
Arky – you can fix her…
https://www.tdcj.texas.gov/death_row/dr_info/parkertaylor.html
Ok JC: Check out this saint Colin Ross:
On December 30, 1921, Alma Tirtschke was sent on an errand by her grandmother but never returned home. – Her body was found the next morning in Gun Alley, a laneway in Melbourne. She had been raped and strangled. The police arrested Colin Campbell Ross**, who owned a wine bar near where she was last seen.
He was executed in 1922.
Oh crap, I forgot to mention the “monster”… he never did it.
Colin Campbell Ross – Wikipedia
He final words (like that of many innocents and murderers also):
1921.
There’s DNA now, and there are also a host of various hoops that need to be crossed before someone is executed in the US. The evidence has to be basically incontrovertible and no gaps are allowed. Ann Coulter wrote about this some time ago and her account is very persuasive.
Grok summarizes Coulter. The saints are left on death row for a reason. They left there in case new evidence comes in. And what you read in the press, doesn’t always fully detail the horror these saints caused to their victims.
Then leave them on death row! Its cheaper!
And sorry JC but I’m not about to open up; Round 4 of this debate this late in the day as I have some meetings to head off to shortly.
You and Arky can carry on in full agreement that gubbermint and all of its arms are great, bigger/stronger the better, and totally trustworthy.
No probs Lysander. I wouldn’t exactly call it government making a decision on the death penalty. A jury decides.
Then life must mean life. No life = 30 years, no minimum non-parole periods, no time off for good behaviour (or Covid), no subjective future parole boards. Life = until death, unless new evidence.
I memed
Unelected, evil bitch.
Let’s mesh two threads:
Does this Evil Unelected Bitch deserve the death penalty for her Crimes Against Humanity?
Have I got this right?
If you’re filmed committing a crime and confessing to a crime, that film is inadmissible because you didn’t consent to being filmed.
How will that work for other offences, should the court accept it?
How does that work for say…speeding offences?
In addition, does that create a precedent where other cases, reliant on video evidence, will be revisited?
It’s going to be a stunning brave decision not to prosecute.
Oh boy, do I like that line of thinking.
Not saying I’ve ever got a speeding fine….
And the prolific use of CCTV?
I was just about to suggest that, John.
Next thing you know a killer caught confessing on a CCTV camera will argue he can’t be tried because he didn’t give his permission to be videoed!
They self consented to filming themselves, and transmitted it.
They didn’t consent to the copying, but their consent was not required. The act of hitting the ‘post comment’ button negated their consent requirement in the very same way that a breath of air after being breathed in by a person does not remain their property after being breathed out.
Perhaps they could get a couple of actors to do a reinactment of the event for the court?
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Gutfeld: demorats criticise Trump for what he might do while Trump is trying to fix what demorats actually did.
It is a brilliant observation. But we knew demorats lie and destroy.
Gutfeld also raised the great worry that these demorat scumbags will have their filthy sights on Elon.
A decent Australian government would offer Musk a launch site where can also build his rockets. Also get him to give the glacial FAA a rogering.
I thought there was a forensic report done in the last couple of years that contradicted the magic bullet theory. It argued that the trajectory, wound pattern, etc. strongly suggested the magic bullet theory of the Warren Commission was nonsense. Also heard it said that the bullet itself was pulled out of the back of the vehicle and placed on the stretcher by the Secret Service.
There was a very thorough docu several years ago, that strongly suggests Oswald pulled trigger. I’m going with that. Now, if there was someone behind him, that’s a different story.
Did it fall in behind the Warren Report?
Can’t recall. I think it was called… JFK Declassified.
BTW, sure, he was one of the shooters, if there was more than one, but the position of the Governor in the front seat and the trajectory of the bullet exiting Kennedy don’t align.
The doco presented the very good case that the bullet came from Oswald’s rifle.
Landis, a Secret Service agent at the time says he found the bullet, that is the basis of the single bullet theory, in the back of the vehicle, which was later found on the Governor’s stretcher.
The bullet passed through Kennedy and hit the governor. How does your claim negate this theory?
Landis made this claim in 2023, while his written statement at the time doesn’t mention this. So 60 years later, he writes a book give an interview to the New York Times and contradicts his original written statement. Are you running with this, Dover?
One more point that needs to be considered about Landis claims by actually leaving it all aside.
Which two claims would you believe to be more accurate? A claim made around the time of an incident or another contradictory claim made by the same person 60 years later?
People’s recollections of events can be contradictory. Also, he was early career so may have thought twice about a detail like that, especially as it may be construed as tampering with the scene, but also given the chaos and the monumental nature of what occurred, thought it best just to keep his head down [or even forgot about it].
According to Landis, the bullet in question didn’t pass through Kennedy. They assumed the bullet found on the Governor’s gurney was the same bullet that passed through Kennedy and ended up in the Governor.
Well, the claim was revealed in 2023. From what I’ve read the book was being worked on for a decade. I don’t know what to make of the failure to disclose this a week after the incident during his interviews, but a BBC article says that he repeated this story in the decades after to confidantes.
Whether its worth running with, not sure, but it does resolve, if true, the conflicting trajectories.
Landis is very likely not lying. The only problem is that human memory is a funny thing especially after 60 years, or even 50 (when he began writing the book).
A lot of the “magic bullet theory” is explained by the fact that Oswald was using steel jacket, mil spec ammunition.
Were they wrong to do so?
We aren’t living in those societies.
Nor can we judge how badly it might effect a citizen of those times to have a donkey stolen or a wife who bears children not belonging to the husband.
So let’s leave this irrelevancy where it belongs: outside this discussion.
I see you replied to two points I made earlier and I will concede neither your point nor my point as valid. You missed several point outs:
I concede JC’s point that some are obviously “monsters” (emotive term) and not legal at all but where does the “blur” begin? I haven’t even gotten into rigged trials, cost of executions, bad jurys, bad judges, discrimination against minorities, public pressure for executions, bad police, planted evidence and a myriad of other issues.
Finally, I just find a bit weird that I’m on a Conservative/Libertarian blog with posters who are naturally distrustful of government, generally don’t support government decisions, bureaucracy, question every govt policy decision (from pollies to police to FBI etc…) but are totally gung-ho to shoot things into peoples’ arms or heads… Ok…
I promise I agree to disagree and will shut up now but you know my mind either way.
Yes, I ignored your (much) weaker points.
I can’t help you with any of the above.
Maybe you can reread them and see yourself where they don’t work.
Sure thing Arky. Sure.
Matt Goodwin: The Elite’s Dirty Secret – How They Control Britain’s Future
That’s very good – “The Radicalisation Of the Political Elite in matters it will never have to deal with, and the costs of which it will never have to bear.”
Those on the Right have been removed from the discussion by multiple Taboos that the Political Elite enforce through captured governmental institutions.
In my view, this removes the political discussion to a class discussion.
The concept of Non Hate Crimes is going to lead to a Class War.
And who benefits from a Class War?
Communists, every time.
This seems like a good start when engaging in an argument.
Rather than what you mostly seem to be doing, which is being triggered by a pet topic and ignoring the points the other party is making.
Such that you think I advocate for the death penalty for a large range of non murder crimes, which even a cursory glance at my posts would disabuse you thereof.
You even seem to think I want donkey rooters from the Middle Ages retrospectively sentenced to death,
You’re just being weird now.
Also: it’s not my fault you have decided to take the weaker side of the death penalty argument.
I don’t think there’s a weaker nor stronger side Arky. That’s very binary of you.
As you said: Too many variables to make comparisons so how could you make a claim like one side is stronger? Just cos you quoted a 19th century philosopher hardly backs you up! Or just cos killing makes you stronger? Weird, mate.
Not really, you pivoted and spoke of proportionality for a while back there. So, shall we rape the rapers to “make it all equal?” I can’t help it if you’re all over the place.
Lets stop here on this one point and see if we can progress.
Do you think the word “proportional” means literally “the same”?
If law makers thought that rapers should be raped, would they use the word proportional?
In the case of a man who attacks, forces a woman to the ground and against her protests and ignoring her distress rapes her, what would you think the proportional punishment would be for that rapist, given the range of options open to the courts?
I have seen the results of such an attack, and it’s a permanent damage to that friend of mine.
A real rape, not a 21st century “Woke up with some regrets after not getting texted back rape”.
I’d say 20 years minimum.
Now if you are giving out 20 years for rapists, as we should, what are you giving the murderers? The ones who preplanned and executed with little or no regrets? Life? 25, 30 years?
It’s not leaving much room now for the worst of the worst is it? You know, the real monsters.
Life without parole? Do you trust that some future do gooders won’t change the rules and let him out?
Now you state the problem of the irreversibility of the death penalty.
Here we face the problem of the reversibility of every non death penalty.
You don’t trust the juries of the time to get it right, but I don’t trust the lawmakers of the future not to undo the will of the juries.
You don’t trust the state of today to sentence people to death.
I don’t trust the state of tomorrow not to release all the murdering perverts already sentenced.
But you trust them today to convict. LOL
Well done.
Bye now.
Arky, those Donkey Rooters also want to kill us.
Maybe rooting donkeys lead to homicidal thoughts.
So perhaps we should be executing the Religion of Donkey Rooters as a self protective measure.
🙂
Rooting donkeys was a harmless pastime of the Britons during the difficult years after Rome left until the Saxons brought hot blondes in.
The Saxon blondes were genetically programmed to respond to being thrown over a rough shoulder, carried out of burning villages into domestic bliss.
Still to this day a trait they retain.
You cannot obtain the affections of a blonde if you didn’t bodily carry her off from the site of horrendous, fiery atrocity on first meeting her.
Jimmy Dore: Why Did So Many Democrats Join MAGA?
Thanks for the upthumbs/ticks and compliments re the ‘Not a sideshow…’ series yesterday. I’ve been having issues with my ‘puter, hence the absence of acknowledgement and further comments.
Great work Muddy.
Yep, I found that very interesting Muddy. My Dad and hubby’s Dad were both in PNG (one Aus, one Kiwi) and as we get older we are
more and more interested in the scenario.
Three Uncles didn’t come back from that war. I despise the Japanese militarism that caused their deaths.
Studying history helps me keep the anger alight.
Muddy, probably not the place to post this but I was riveted with your chapters yesterday.
My goodness, what excellence, superbly written and conveying the tragic truth of those brave men.
The Cat is extraordinarily blessed having history experts like you and TE.
Please, keep it coming.
Thanks, Delta, what a lovely compliment. (Thanks everyone else’s compliments also – they are appreciated).
Military history has been my passion for many years. I love researching, but when it comes to compiling the research notes into a book-sized flowing narrative, I stumble and procrastinate, and procrastinate, and …
Hence I have about five early-stage military history manuscripts that I cannot progress further. Instead, I start a new research project. *Sigh*
I’m sure it’s a mental thing, but the research gives me something to do, so it’s not all bad. I have self-published two books quite some years ago now, but the major one was largely me editing the work of others, and the smaller was not a chronological narrative, but a research reference work.
Muddy
I assume that you have also read The Last Blue Sea, a fictionalised account of the experiences of the 58/59th Battalion in the Salamaua Campaign?
Yes. I have a copy somewhere. The new C.O. (off the top of my head, I cannot remember names and details; it has been a few years since I read it) was inspired partly by the man whom I’ve spent a great deal of time researching: then Major George Warfe, later Colonel, DSO, MC, ED.
Like Peter Pinney’s works – ‘The Barbarians’ (the first in the Johnno trilogy) at least – the characters and some of the locations are an amalgam.
I have to say I don’t know how this is going to work out. Elements of the judiciary have now obviously gone rogue:
Today alone 4 federal judges ordered:
a) Elon Musk to reinstate USAID workers;
b) Trump to state disclose when/where flights left w/ terrorists;
c) reinstatement of transgender to military;
d) reinstatement of Dep’t of Education grants.
Biden Judge Halts Trump’s Military Trans Ban – Geller Report
Given Scotus’s roberts and amy kunty are closet activists Trump can’t rely on the judicial appeal system to right the lower judiciary bullshit; even if he were okay with months and maybe years of delays while corrupt bureaucracy entrenched itself.
Trump and his staff know they can’t tolerate this judiciary resistance because it’s purpose is to destroy his administration. So what can he do.
Impeachment?
Some of these guys don’t even hide their corruption.
A few “suicides” a la the Clintons?
I think they need to pick a couple of marks and run them through the impeachment process.
They may not get them turfed in the final vote, but it ties them up for a couple of years in depositions and hearings and presumably disqualifies them from sitting on the bench until hearings are finalised.
So, I’m off. I sadly have a series of meetings until 6:30pm this evening ugh… (and I really should’ve been prepping for those)…
I will be sure, every time Arky slams judges, courts, appellate courts, juries, police, authorities, government, to remind him it’s the same folk that run convictions, prosecutions, juries and executions.
Over and out.
Bacio bacio, Arky (from Lysander “the effeminate one”). 😛
True. Perhaps the judges themselves should remember that?
Sean Hannity: Democrats hate Elon Musk more than ever
Those Cats who know me here can confirm that I’m rather opinionated. There are times when I’m also rather bossy, the best word to describe it is chutzpah! I don’t mean to be rude but well, it can come across as rudeness, but the good thing is that I usually am deservedly slapped down for my chutzpah. I remember how, about twenty-five years ago, going to David Jones food hall to buy something, it was the day before Passover and I wanted something leavened to eat. Cats might remember how DJs Food Halls used to have the ticketing system where you had to get a ticket to be served. It was lunchtime and I rushed off to DJs, to the patisserie section and I grabbed a ticket, noticed there was an older man in front of me yet the person behind the counter called my ticket number first and I barged ahead and ordered my pastry. The man was dumbfounded and his jaw dropped, and I then rudely stood in front of him, waved my pastry at him and said…’well, you just have to get a ticket! I could see the fumes coming out of him. I then rushed off back to work. That night I went to Double Bay synagogue for a pre-Passover BBQ, I stood in line with some girlfriends queuing for a hamburger, we were chatting and then suddenly a man stood in front of me, waved his hamburger under my nose and said………..’I hope bloody well have a a ticket’! It was the same man from DJs. I was utterly humiliated and embarrassed, and I apologised to him for my earlier chutzpah!
Today, after work, I got on a bus, a bus which is always full, and I barged through to sit down. I told a man to get up from the single seat, he was completely bewildered at my imperious order, as men often are when confronted with bossy women, and he did get up and moved to the seat next to me. I told him how I’d had a double knee replacement and I showed him my knees, to which he responded…..
‘well I can beat that, I have a prosthetic leg’
and he proceeded to show me his prosthetic leg!
My God did I feel terrible and you’ll be glad to know I apologised to him and offered him back the seat.
LOL. Gosh we get our comeuppance sometimes!
That’s a side I never seen from you, Cassie.
Humility is seldom chosen but lands on our head like bird droppings.
I was walking my dog about an hour ago when some young buggers in a P-plated beemer yelled something as they drove past. Normally I’d just ignore that type of thing – which happens occasionally; it’s a busy road and there are plenty of eejyits about – but for whatever reason, a switch was flicked in my head and I suddenly felt enraged! Seeing they were stopped at the lights at the other end of the block, I ran along the footpath (my dog was not happy with this) and confronted them from the roadside with colourful language (also not normally my habit). The passenger responded neutrally, I stared at them for a while, and then moved on, beginning to realise I was increasing my own blood pressure for no rational reason. I walked around and the corner and they decided to follow me, yelling something which I again couldn’t make out. They drove up to the next roundabout and came back past me again, repeating the verballing. At this point, however, I’d had come to the conclusion that picking a fight with exuberant but random strangers was probably not going to be rewarding, so I simply continued walking, managing a wry smile at myself for letting a triviality (which I hadn’t initially understood) get the better of me.
The obvious lesson from this experience is that my childhood dreams of becoming a hostage negotiator or police b*mb squad technician didn’t come true for a good reason!
Editing one’s words before posting is overgrated!
Perhaps god is showing you you need more humility.
But I’m not exactly a believer.
Quick comment, Barry: Are you the Batman?
Q: What’s the difference between JFK and Trump?
A: Three inches.
Dark. Very dark.
I see that the homicidal nurse from Condell Park had a pack of Lebanese hoodlums acting as her personal bodyguard today when she appeared at court in Sydney’s CBD.
Remember, these are the scum, peasants and trash we’ve allowed in this country.
I assume none of these thugs will be allowed into a courtroom without being totally recognisable, or perhaps even digitally identified?
As the old saying goes, you are judged by the company you keep.
Why does a healthcare worker need to be escorted by thugs?
I have zero sympathy for Gaza and Gazans………..ZERO.
Seconded…
Supported.
Pretty much the definition of FAFO.
Me neither.
Chris Kenny slams media coverage of latest Israeli attacks targeting Hamas
Add my meh, to the list of Cats.
I have to say in defense of canbra that Fraser was warned. But it was a different generation back in ’76 who might have actually had the nation’s best interests at heart. Same with the CSIRO- I actually used to think it was rather good but that’s a long time ago too.
I had a dream last night. It was Richmond vs Hawthorn . I leapt across to smother the ball. Next minute I was lying on the floor, bleeding profusely, my chin had hit the bedside table.
It was very strange surreal even out of body experience .
Im very keen to go back to sleep to see what tonight will bring!
I had a dream last night about fighting with swords. Fortunately I woke up when I was about to lose.
Dreams can be fun, but sometimes are quite scary.
Sounds like a nightmare to me.
I dreamt I was eating a giant marshmallow. When I woke up, my pillow was missing.
All Ukraine wants is everything – no loss of territory and the ability to join any body they like.
Watch: Hungarian & Ukrainian FMs Face Off on Stage – Explosive Comments Fly! | Times Now World
They chose … poorly.
Douglas Murray slams Starmer for ‘outrageous’ plan to define Islamophobia
The proposed definition roughly defines it as anything but uncompromising support.
For someone who right off the bat played “don’t put words in my mouth” (which I never did), you are pretty sure you know what’s in my head (rejoicing/ relishing death).
Plus, in the above post you contradict all your other arguments today against me, by agreeing with JC that the death penalty is, indeed, appropriate in some cases.
Well good on you for finally conceding I was completely right all along.
Apparently it was only the person making the argument and the things you imagine they were thinking while making the argument that you objected to.
You could have stated that at the beginning and saved me the work.
Blot is a fcking joke, he’s now trying to say that the Donald Trump factor is bringing down the Coalition vote!
I’m beginning to wonder about Sky; on credlin which is being run by the little fat bearded dude he had this wussian expert on who said that Trump suck’s puttie’s dick; or words to that effect.
Malcolm Davis | Australian Strategic Policy Institute | ASPI
The fat bastards both had palpable TDS.
Dutton is nothing like Trump.
Off his own bat and under no pressure at all Dutton rejected pulling out of the Paris Accord, which makes him look very shifty if he changes his mind subsequently.
He is no defender of free speech, and he allegedly admires Starmer’s approach to government (which I have not seen confirmed).
The biggest things in Dutton’s favour are that he is not Labor, he has come out strongly in support of Israel, is a vocal opponent of anti-Semitism and supports nuclear reactors.
Yes he’s degenerated into an insulting twerp. A complete idiot and another example of why the legacy meja should die. How’s Bolt jnr these days?
Much better than dad from what I’ve seen of him.
?Andrew should retire, it would be for the best.
PS I don’t even watch him- I just read people’s reports here.
Cass, you’ll be pleased to hear that I gave a stupid young white pro-pallyweird slag (who was squawking about Israel being a nazi state and trying to handout leaflets about a demo in the CBD on Saturday) a deafening gobful outside of Sydenham station on my way home.
Hopefully her ears will be ringing for about the next month.
Ivan Milat murdered seven young men and women (that’s the number we can be sure of, without a doubt there are more victims out there). His favourite methods of murder were rape, torture, strangulation, stabbing, decapitation and bludgeoning his victims to death. After he had murdered them he hacked the bodies and buried them in the remote Belanglo State Forest. It was only by chance that a bushwalker discovered the gruesome scene, and those bodies were finally able to be returned to their grief stricken families and buried with the dignity and love denied them by Milat, who was a monster.
Ivan Milat died in 2019, in a hospital bed, attended to the end by doctors and nurses. I regard his end as an insult to his victims.
Ivan Milat should have been executed.
Not to mention the perpetrator of the Port Arthur massacre, who should also have been executed.
Yep.
There were many irregularities about Port Arthur…. I still wonder if it was a false flag to push through gun control laws in this country….
There was a recent story in the Mail where a couple of former homicide cops suggest that his kill count could’ve been up to 80 more victims.
Three police officers central to the hunt for serial killer Ivan Milat believe there could be up to 80 more victims murdered and dumped in the Australian bushland.
Yes.
Ivan Milat should have been hanged in public, while the mob hooted, jeered and pelted him with rotten eggs.
Then gave him the Mussolini treatment.
It should have been done privately and somberly and just announced. We don’t need more entertainment. We have footy. And death is terribly final, even for a criminal.
Lysander is a female and squeamish.
I am resolutely pro-life, opposed to both abortion and euthanasia.
The last ten years have seen me move from anti capital punishment to being in favour.
Those who take a life without any regard deserve to have their lives made forfeit. Lysander sees this as revenge (the female trait) where it is in reality just.
The examples brought up of innocents being executed are so old as to be laughable. We are not living in 1921 where prejudice and convenience trump evidence.
A simple look at the data concerning convicted murderers who are released only to kill again should be enough to argue for the death penalty. Unless you deem the life of the convicted killer to ha6greayer value than the victim or victims.
That does not seem to be just to me.
You do realise all the jews gassed by the Nazis were ‘guilty’ too dont you?
Ivan Milat should have been executed.
This is the opposite concept to the ‘hostage puppy’ – the sobstory rolled out to placate people when it is discovered that an institution is 98% corrupt – ‘if you break it up the puppy dies’. Hamas are very adept at this strategy – they roll out the bodies of children whenever Israel makes a tightly targetted hit on a Hamas missile site in Gaza. Arguing that ‘execution of prisoners is ok because Milat’ is the mirror strategy to the hostage puppy.
Man guilty of gold toilet theft from Churchill’s homeStaff WritersReuters
Wed, 19 March 2025 4:30AM
A stolen gold toilet is believed to have been cut up and sold. (AP PHOTO) Credit: AAP
A British man has been convicted of stealing an 18-carat golden toilet that had been on display as an artwork in an exhibit at Winston Churchill’s birthplace.
The fully functioning toilet, a work titled “America” by Italian artist Maurizio Cattelan, was stolen from the Churchill family seat of Blenheim Palace in southern England, a major tourist attraction and UNESCO World Heritage Site.
Prosecutor Julian Christopher told jurors at the start of the trial last month that a group of five men drove two stolen vehicles through locked wooden gates into the palace grounds before dawn on September 14, 2019.
They broke in through a window, smashed down a wooden door, ripped the toilet from the wall and left after five minutes in the building.
The toilet weighing 98kg was insured for $US6 million ($A9.4 million). Prosecutors say it was probably divided into smaller amounts of gold to sell it off.
Michael Jones, 39, was found guilty of burglary at Oxford Crown Court, having pleaded not guilty.
Fred Doe, 36, was found guilty of one count of conspiracy to convert or transfer criminal property, namely the gold, while 41-year-old Bora Guccuk was acquitted of that charge.
James Sheen, 39, had pleaded guilty before trial to burglary, conspiring to convert or transfer the gold and converting or transferring the gold.
Shan Saunders of the Crown Prosecution Service said in a statement: “This was an audacious raid which had been carefully planned and executed – but those responsible were not careful enough, leaving a trail of evidence in the form of forensics, CCTV footage and phone data.”
Saunders added that “while none of the gold was ever recovered … we are confident this prosecution has played a part in disrupting a wider crime and money laundering network”.
Like Tom, I have fled Sky to…Yes Minister.
An excellent documentary on all that’s wrong with bureaucracy. It’s actually more realistic than a lot of the overblown “news” commentary.
The writers allegedly had to pull back on the story lines to make them actually sort of believable. Reality was far worse.
In regard to Capital Punishment I have read some analysis that posits that a small non-zero proportion of people are born pure evil with no restraint.
And the arguement is that it is genetic in nature and can/is passed on to their offspring.
And that in the West, we have for about 1000 years tended to execute those (among others).
And as a result, the murders per million of population in the West is demonstrably lower than in those societies that haven’t systematically ‘culled’ those monsters (as defined by Arky) – eg Africa, the Middle East etc.
IMO, this line of thinking is a reasonable argument in support of Capital Punishment.
(Not sure what happened with the formatting).
I have read some analysis that posits that a small non-zero proportion of people are born pure evil with no restraint.
And the argument is that it is genetic in nature and can/is passed on to their offspring.
There are certainly evil people. Very evil. Genetic? Possibly. There is an old saying, “born with the devil in him”. So the thought has been there a very long time.
100% agree, but I dont trust the process and still havent heard why life imprisonment doesnt provide the same level of public safety.
Because life isn’t life. Judges and Parole boards sometimes let them out to kill again
Hmmm, does this mean I can go into a Hermes store and snatch a Kelly bag, an act caught on store security, and Hermes security and the police use that footage as evidence to track me down and pin me for the crime, but I should then be able to assert that the footage is inadmissible because I did not consent to being filmed?
Now folks, don’t you worry, I have zero intention of doing such a bad thing but isn’t this ‘inadmissibility’ shtick what the homicidal and very ‘homosexual’ Afghani nurse Mr Nadir is pleading?
Can you grab me a Birkin while you are there?
I like the bigger, roomier bags. 😀
Oooh, I also like a Birkin!
Yes, I’ll grab you one!
Don’t grab it too hard. I don’t want marks. Lol. 😀
The Newcat criminal and dodgy shit gang.
We had 3 Canadian backpackers stay with us a few years ago. They were silly boys but very polite. They heard about a deal to move a Wicked camper van from Melbourne to Sydney for $1. And were allowed a week to get there. Well they ran out of fuel…. in the Belangalo state forest! They hitched a ride with a biker to get fuel at the next town. Milan was behind bars at the time, but it was a family business!
All those ‘renewables’ and blowing up the coal power plant is going great in SA:
‘It’s hard’: SA food distributor facing shocking power bill crisis
Galipo Foods said they have seen a 100 per cent increase in power bills since 2022, forking out more than $100,000 a month for energy costs.
So very sad.
Blot and his gloat report. Im so puzzled why the angst against someone looking for peace. It doesnt happen in one phone call alot of it is posturing. Trump is dealing with two bad fukrs Putin and Zelenskyyyyy.
I’ve been on crutches for the last 4 weeks. One of the perks is both lanes of traffic just hit the brakes and stop. They let you cross.
I’ve said hello to about 100 people just using my lips to say thankyou. The smiles back from people behind the windscreen…love them all.
True story.
Those concerned about “the state” performing the just execution of murderers should consider:
Drawing and quartering was the punishment from the state for crimes against the state.
For crimes against your fellow citizens, even murder, you were merely hanged.
While the argument “I don’t trust the state, therefore I don’t want to give the state the power to kill”, is an attractive one, it ignores this distinction.
That the state will always have a tendency to commit heinous acts in defence of itself, and none of this has any bearing upon it’s duty to fulfil it’s obligations to it’s citizens to administer justice properly.
The proper administration of justice includes the death penalty for those guilty of the most heinous crimes. This is true whether or not it has a deterrent effect on other criminals. That is irrelevant.
A state’s proper administration of justice is apart from it’s integrity with respect to not persecuting it’s citizens for legitimate dissent.
In other words, if you live in a state that is persecuting it’s citizens, it’s non administration of a just death penalty for murderers is probably one more way a bad state persecutes it’s own people.
From the Oz. We are expected to take this malarkey seriously?
Macquarie University law students who face the threat of failing a component of a key exam if they perform an underwhelming acknowledgment of country have been made to adopt different personas and perform a “privilege walk” in order to better understand power and status.
Age and the Law course convenor Holly Doel-Mackaway on Wednesday doubled down on revelations published in The Australian that students were marked on their delivery of an acknowledgment of country, saying they would “not meet the metric or rubric” if they did not perform an appropriate proclamation.
It comes as two students told The Australian the university’s law course has become hijacked by a political ideology that was damaging to their education, with one saying they felt pressured to “express an opinion that I don’t truly believe in”.
Dr Doel-Mackaway was the course convener of part of a unit for honours students that required them to deliver an acknowledgment of country and to be assessed on their delivery.
One former honours student told The Australian that a core component of the oral presentation of their thesis topic was the delivery of “an ‘exceptionally thoughtful and respectful Acknowledgement of Country or Welcome to Country’ connected to our chosen topic, which was to consume roughly 30 seconds of each student’s three-minute presentation”.
I would be using my newfound legal skills to sue them for misrepresenting the course as a ‘law degree’ rather than a political one.
PS … I was once asked by a ‘Community Medicine’ examiner in an oral exam to ‘discuss 3 present issues in womens health’.
I replied ‘I have no interest in womens health, ask me something else’.
Result – got asked something else and passed the subject with a high distinction (true story).
Sofronoff has lodged an appeal in the Fed Court.
ACT legal system about to get a lot more attention.
It’s the ACT Integrity Commission, comprised by a former NSW Supreme Court judge, one Michael Adams. The argument may be about the concept of “seriously corrupt”. The relevant statute might define it widely. Sofronnof’s behaviour was extraordinary.
Not relevant to this topic, but I recall his description as “loathsome” a newspaper report that a woman claimed Higgins had in the border Parliament building booked after hours. We heard no more about this.
Sorry. Omit “border”, and it’s ‘bonked’ not booked.
Brittany blob however just keeps keeping on…
I am amazed at it’s longevity.
A lot of moving parts. Still waiting on the WASupreme Court on Reynolds defamation and Mrs Pirates and Our Bruce’s appeals. The NACC yet to have a crack and I would expect Britt’s trust to come under a bit of scrutiny and Dreyfus to be for the high jump at some point. Plenty of action still to come.
Claire Lehmann was exhibiting some absolute Musk Derangement Syndrome this morning. Perhaps if she’d had some sort of logical supporting argument I could have agreed or at least glossed over it with indifference. But no. Here is what she said this morning about the recent attacks on Tesla dealerships.
Gosh, where to begin. There was nothing inevitable about people throwing Molotov cocktails into Tesla dealerships. By treating these terrorists as though they are some sort of inevitable law of physics she is disregarding their agency and the responsibility they have for their own decisions and actions. There’s nothing about cutting government grants that must inevitably result in terrorism. Lehmann is speaking on behalf of these terrorists the same way a bully defends their own actions: “Look at what you made me do!” As though there were no other conceivable alternative. It’s actually her own narcissistic entitlement that is on display.
What “total warfare” could she be talking about? Elon has made no secret of his disdain for the entire political Left for the last 2 years. Did that trigger the attacks? No it did not. And when Musk began campaigning for Trump that did not trigger any attacks either. But attacks on Tesla cars and dealerships began at least as far back as Trump’s inauguration, well before DOGE had actually made any budget cuts, indicating that some people had unhinged views of him already. The media smearing of Musk for doing a “Nazi salute” no doubt fed these unhinged people. Reportedly the DOGE cuts have impacted NIH grants for legitimate scientific research. Even if that were true it hardly counts as “total warfare”.
And again, Musk did not unleash chaos. The chaos was the decision of other people. There was nothing inevitable about it and so Musk did not choose that outcome.
The way Lehmann compares her own mistreatment with Musk’s probably explains her level of derangement. She seems to be confusing her inability to prevent attacks with an acceptance of the same. Nobody should have to tolerate the treatment that Lehmann has received for her published opinions. It seems a double standard that she can complain about the attacks on her but when Musk does the same it is “narcissism”.
It was a rather disappointing display and there is as yet no known cure for MDS. We can only hope Claire makes a miraculous recovery on 4 July 2026.
And I can’t recall a single event during the Biden years when the Dow 30 stocks and the large tech companies, having gone DEI rogue, faced any destructive act from the Right of the sort being experienced by Tesla now.
There are lots of people that didn’t get into a college, were refused promotion and even fired to make room for DEI hires. No one burned down Disney Land.
Leveraging his wealth, not “their.”
Go back to school and study grammar, Claire. And while you’re there study law as well.
She fails to say what exactly Musk has done to justifying criminal activities and threats against him.
Hers is a one-sided, purely ideological rant.
The death penalty debate arose out of some great injustices so I don’t decry or trivialise people’s disapproval of it, and I understand the fear that someone innocent might be sentenced to die.
I personally was once anti-death penalty but I am no longer. We now live in a world where crime, particularly heinous crimes, are routinely minimised, trivialised and medicalised. Bundy, Milat, Manson, Gacy, Sutcliffe and others were not ill or psychologically insane, they were evil. And the problem is that we in the West now find ourselves living in societies that refuse to acknowledge evil. Of course this is tied in with the collapse of religion across the West. But this refusal to acknowledge evil has meant we’ve lost the important biblical notions of ‘crime and punishment’. Functional societies need a justice system that deals effectively with crime, particularly heinous crimes. Sadly, we no longer live in societies willing to effectively deal with crime, and that means effectively punishing crime.
What I refuse to countenance is this absurd idea that when a state executes a heinous murderer, be it a Milat or Bundy, then the state is no different to the Milat or Bundy. I’m sorry, but that’s both ludicrous and insulting. Sometimes it is necessary to kill to protect the living, and sometimes it is necessary to kill to punish those who’ve killed the innocent. The death penalty was abolished back in the 1960s, in Oz, the UK and other Anglo countries, not because people piously thought that state execution of a murderer was somehow wrong, it was because of the fact that some innocent men and women had been executed. And that can happen. But the likes of Milat, Gacy, Bryant and Bundy were not innocent, they were guilty. Gacy and Bundy faced the US justice system, they were executed and all I can say is…good.
As an aside, and on a lighter note, I once worked for a leftwing progressive, After those two drug runners were executed in Indonesia back in 2015, my boss said to me, in his usual sanctimonious and pious manner, that he would never travel to a country which had the death penalty. To which I responded……’oh gosh, that’s gonna be very difficult for you, particularly business wise, because it means you won’t be able to visit Japan, China, Singapore (where he was a frequent visitor), Indonesia, Malaysia or India and you won’t be able to visit the US where your son lives.
I silenced him.
I silenced him.
You killed him? That’s the only way to silence a leftoid.
Great point.
The denial of the existence of evil is a problem.
Moral relativism, extreme materialism and deconstruction of previously widely held beliefs.
To the point that justice is reduced to spurious arguments about the reduction of crime rates.
You can arbitrarily reduce crime to zero if you legalise everything.
You can also reduce crime by refusing to report or record it.
Likewise you can turn justice into an empty game of insincerely mouthed scripts and box ticking if you pursue the restorative path.
Milat, Manson, Gacy, Sutcliffe and others were not ill or psychologically insane, they were evil.
They were amateurs compared to Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot, Mao, etc etc etc
Zelensky’s just playing games. He’s not interested in peace.
@disclosetv
NOW – Zelenskyy says the “Russians aren’t ready to finish the war” and the “occupied territories” are a “red line” for Ukraine.
If this is not war against independent journalists then what is it? They are literally trying to get them killed. Not to mention their families.
@ImMeme0
BREAKING: Infowars host Owen Shroyer just been swatted.
China Is Quietly Constructing Hundreds Of Very Large Self-Sustaining “Special Economic Zones” All Over The Globe
Radio Free Europe sues Trump admin, Kari Lake over defunding
JD Vance’s Munich Speech Makes a LOT More Sense NOW
@Holden_Culotta
President Trump just exposed Arthur Schlesinger’s full 15-page memo calling for JFK to break up the CIA in 1961.
Schlesinger called the CIA a rogue “state within a state.”
“No one knows how many potential problems … are being created by CIA clandestine operations.”
THREAD
Oh dear Lord, Liz Storer is now a believer that the moon landing was faked because NASA filmed the training for the landing and showed it to the viewing public. But of course she would. Freya Leech is outpacing her on every subject and should be given Liz’s spot on The Great Debate.
You’re joking, yes? I had some time for her (my wife thinks she’s wonderful!), but if she honestly believes that she is a fruit loop of the highly-sugared variety. The voice was bad enough, but this …
Yes, I’m afraid to say she’s a loon.
@MikeBenzCyber
When you understand the AFL-CIO — the largest federation of unions in the US — is to a large degree the AFL-CIA, it puts the AFL-CIO’s 2020 planned shutdown of the country if Trump won and its massive backing of Lula in Brazil & its push to topple Bolsonaro in a different light
@ggreenwald
Brazil’s chief censor, Alexandre de Moraes, has not just been silencing but also imprisoning Bolsonaro supporters, including – likely – Bolsonaro himself shortly.
Bolsonaro’s son, Congressman @BolsonaroSP, said he’ll stay in the US after Moraes threatened to seize his passport:
These judges are totally corrupt. There’s not even a fig leaf of impartiality.
@MikeBenzCyber
You really have to read every line of this screenshot below to re-familiarize yourself with what a mind-boggling, fart-huffing, glue-sniffing act of judicial jiu jitsu Judge Boasberg used to let Ray Epps off
Hornets’ Nest: Hegseth Fires the JAGs
Nooooo! Catherine Bell, you’ll always have a bed at my place! (Preferably mine) She was only 18 when the series started.
Er… she’d have been 27yo.
She’s a ’68 drop. JAG was broadcast 1995.
Chris Kenny slams media coverage of latest Israeli attacks targeting Hamas
Yes it is.
Far, far too many people are under the impression – mostly because of tech advances – that we as humans are way more civilised now than we were 2000 years ago or more.
We’re not. There were evil people then, and now. We’re not better than we were as a species, and the sooner some realise that the better.
Far, far too many people are under the impression – mostly because of tech advances – that we as humans are way more civilised now than we were 2000 years ago or more.
Agreed, but governments are made up of people too, and tend to attract those who are most evil and most interested in the power of the state.
Think of it another way, if you like.
How many lives have been saved due to capital punishment?
I made this exact point up above and 2 downticks for my troubles.
And another for suggesting that executions should be out of public view and as dignified as possible. I didn’t realise so many Cats were thirsting for spectacle.
Not spectacle, Luzu – justice.
the real metric is how many lives have been saved by capital punishment as opposed to life imprisonment …..
Well, time to say goodnight Cats. Yes, early, but wakies tomorrow is 4.00 am and a 5.00 am start for a 1200 km drive. Coral Bay here we come. My 75th is Friday, so will be spent with friends and Dearly Beloved. See you next week.
Happy Birthday then, Bruce!
All the best for a Happy Birthday, Bruce.
I pop by for a moment…and a long one at that (how ineffeminate of me):
Arky, when I said I agree with JC’s view that the criminal (not a “monster” as it’s emotive and you, yourself told me not to get hysterical or use emotional terms) should be killed. That’s an inference. Nuance my friend. Obviously they should be but it doesn’t mean you carry thru with it. I was being empathetic to his argument which was much more salient than yours. JC is much better at this than you. Sad but true.
I think Louise Nil-Again (or any ABC “dude”) should be hanged for treason. Have said so! Would I really support it? Never! As dangerous as treason is!
But Arky, you NEVER addressed your first comment that “people like this (as in fighting for their lives, perhaps innocently, “gobble up time on appeals.” Don’t they deserve time? JC attempted to address this by quoting Coulter by saying they get lots of time these days but it’s simply not true. Coulter is as reputable as Flannery and innocents still die.
Im happy to throw them in a hole to p.ss and s.it and eat forever (or until alternate evidence prevails). It costs bugger all. Don’t take their lives. Let them consider the harm they’ve done. For life. I also know, from personable experience, it hurts.
To Cassie and her bloodthirsty capital punishment friends…
Cassie:
Qualifier: I probably love Israel more than Australia. Israel has 100’s of 1000’s of excuses to kill prisoners by trial. I agree they should be but I wouldn’t agree with it. So, it’s done one execution in 70 years. Wow. Greatest nation on Earth both now and historically.
You’re still pissed at Pharaoh so I know your Day of Atonement, the rams horn, the sheep who carry the sins of others out of town… I wish I were a Jew. I love the people so much I wept when I visited the Wailing Wall (twice in last six years and even more, moreover) and cursed the Mueslis. Been to Passovers, have the Shema on my door, pray Jewish Psalms at 630am every morning, give a 10th of my pre-taxable income to charity, we have a great Menora that graces the entrance to our house (and we live in a Muesli hood so not without risk). We donate a fair bit to FOIWA!!!
it’s not a geopolitical point.
Bloodthirsty followers of Cassie, Arky, JC:
You, Arky, think you are the Judge and executioner. You have eyes that see a criminal versus a monster. I don’t. All crimes are sick and a violation of others rights. So, when does one become a “monster?” They called Pell a monster. Did he deserve the chair? Be careful what you wish for.
JC, you and I had this argument in about 2011. It didn’t end well from memory. I don’t have the time to go over old imbued belief systems and I’d prefer to read your insightful trade/stock/market/Govt comments.
Arky, you wanna kill murderers via the State. Go for it. I’m not going to stop you. This is just my belief. Dunno how you can’t accept that as I can accept (but disagree) with your beliefs.
And don’t forget, in Neronian terms, they’re already coming for “the Sunday people.”
My Judeo-Christian Conclusion:
Everyone will have a “life review.” Murderers, rapists, pedos, Monty, thieves, liars, me. And executioners.
Otherwise you’re “Scott free.” Lol!
Hope I stirred up lotsa debate.
The Greatest Story of All Time is I can’t respond lol! Bed now as I have a fricking 5am (AWST) meeting to 12pm (AWST) meeting so…
goodnight.
Weak.
You’re back!
This is irrelevant to the administration of justice during our life times.
You are confusing divine judgement with earthly justice.
Yep. You’re “divine” Arky. Lord Arky.
In your view, a “monster” (emotive/hysteric term) arrested needs to be dealt with asap. You can’t escape your own words of “taking up time for appeals.” Sad and sadistic.
There should be a statue erected for the innocents.
What if this “monster” you cited this AM turns out to be innocent? I dunno;
in 5, 19, 20 years? Just sayin. It’s happened, possibly hundreds or thousands of times before. And even if he’s filthy/guilty, that’s gonna stop the next evil bastard? Yeah nah.
For the last time Arky, in agreement with what JC said: Hold ‘em as long as possible without death. Why are you so bloodthirsty?
A quick quote for a guy I admire:
”He who looks at a woman lustily has committed adultery. He who calls his bro “fool” is guilty of murder.”
So. I’m guilty. Are you?
I prefer to avoid the external judgement, than the State of Texas.
Lysander, I don’t recall the discussion back in 2011. I wasn’t trying to get into an argument with you over this.
I recall it JC. No offence but it was me Vs you, Sinc and Dot.
I don’t hold it against you nor them at all. Just that it’s old ground.
Let it go.
Ark wants to convert me to be a sparky.
Never gonna happen.
You are a good man, Lysander, which is a terrible handicap when it comes to deciding on justice. I, on the other hand, understand what evil bastards are like because I am one.
I suspect Arky is another.
Correct, you are beginning to get it, I think.
I want to be judged, not because I’m good, but because there are some who are so much worse.
They deserve justice on Earth from their fellows, and divine judgement there after.
Its also a matter of aesthetics,
One we should expect from properly constituted earthly authorities, the other belongs only to God, or in your case, whatever nightmare flickers across your dying synapses in your final moments, you atheist beast.
I gave you that uptick. See, I’m bad, but not all bad.
Us evil bastards ought to stick together.
I return the favour, but still won’t turn my back on you, you evil bastard.
Newsom is the nominee in 28 and he’s going to run as a conservative demonrat. He could win. Don’t underestimate him despite the baggage.
He has three dynasties behind him, he can perform, he has a brass neck, and he can be kept in a bubble… i think you’re right
Newsom has the most fake smile I’ve ever seen.
What are these “rights” of which you speak, and from where do they come?
By what mechanism are they enforced?
In addition, it’s strange to me that you can determine what a “crime” is, but cannot determine what a “monster” is.
I think you owe the readership a full accounting of these things you claim are rights, and their origins, and how you expect them to be enforced, and what defines a crime, a criminal and why you can’t also determine when conduct is monstrous.
and why you can’t also determine when conduct is monstrous.
What, like me
wanting to kill grandmawarning people that the vaxxes were dangerous and ineffective during covid?You monster.
I too remain monstrously unvaxxed.
But still convinced that is irrelevant to the day to day administration of justice to murderers.
I give up Lord Arky.
I have a deal to close tomorrow (so very fricking early that can help me retire much earlier than expected.
Despite countless innocent deaths you’re right. Let’s kill all monsters on death row cos I’m 100% sure they’re all 100% guilty. Forget judges, trials, lawyers, juries, evidence corrupt police, corrupt DoJ, corrupt police.
”Quick and speedy” were your words. You are never said once: Let justice be done as longstanding g as it takes? Why?
So. Let all deaths be on you and not me.
Goodnight.
Back online Friday, maybe.
Nope.
What originally must have triggered you:
Your eyes must have glazed over in rage before you got to the bolded part.
Retrieved from embedded comments.
The world was induced into a state of madness in those days.
The failure of leadership still has not been addressed.
Could not the death penalty be appropriate for some of the individuals who knowingly cost so many lives and ruined so many others?
Duk quoted above.
Many of the Nuremberg defendants were just shiny arsed administrators.
None of them directly murdered anyone.
Don’t tell me you’re one of these idiots who think the meat packs in the supermarket never were critters that had to be knocked on the head by someone, or that you can defend a nation without rehearsing to kill c*nts, or that you can deal “nicely” with gangsters and crims?
Sleep well my friend, enjoy a refreshing night dreaming of riding unicorns and playing with fluffy bunnies.
Would I kill a critter for food? Yep.
Would I practice diligently for combat and do my best to help those soldiers enthusiastic for the fight? Yep.
Would I, if tasked by a legitimate and legal authority, execute a mass murdering monster? Yes.
I wouldn’t like it, I’m sure it’s a depressing and awful task. But a necessary one.
When the enterprising burglar’s not a-burgling,
And the cut-throat isn’t occupied in crime,
‘E loves to hear the little brook a-gurgling
And listen to the merry village chime.
When the coster’s finished jumpin’ on ‘is mother,
‘E loves to lie a-basking in the sun.
Well take one consideration with another,
Arky’s lot is not a happy one.