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If you preach balanced reporting, then practise it, especially in a time of war
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9:30PM October 29, 2023
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ABC 7.30 political correspondent Laura Tingle has kicked off a debate here about traditional techniques requiring balance in news reporting.

Tingle was speaking about the ABC’s balance checklist provisions in reporting of the referendum on the Indigenous voice to parliament. She was answering an audience question on October 12 at the Sydney launch of journalist and lawyer David Marr’s new book, Killing for Country.

Only five days later, news consumers were treated to a spectacular example of the dangers of ditching traditional balance in news stories. Some of the world’s biggest media outlets swallowed false Hamas claims that Israel had bombed a hospital in northern Gaza, even though Israel had almost immediately said it had no record of any attacks by it at that time.
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Independent journalist Matt Taibbi on Racket News criticised The New York Times’s bungling of what was a failed missile attack from inside Gaza by Islamic Jihad. Taibbi wrote: “Newspapers in recent years have moved away from the ‘he said, she said’ rhetorical method critics now tell them is out of date in the moral-clarity era. In situations where you really aren’t sure of the facts, however, it’s the only way to go, and outlets are paying the price for moving away from the format.”

At least the NYT on October 23 issued a lengthy “Editors’ Note” admitting its mistake and concluding, “Given the sensitive nature of the news during a widening conflict, and the prominent promotion it received, Times editors should have taken more care with the initial presentation, and been more explicit about what information could be verified.”

The same mistake was repeated in outlets across the world from the BBC to Al Jazeera and our own ABC. Al Jazeera English continued running the false claim even after its main Arabic channel had shown footage of the failed rocket launch from inside Gaza.

These mistakes underline a problem in journalism. Too many reporters quick to swallow Hamas lies now see their role as upholding moral virtue rather than reporting facts. Trouble is, they are too ill-informed to know where virtue lies.

Why has no Australian journalist since the hospital story mentioned that Hamas has a long history of attacking the Barzilai Hospital in the Israeli city of Ashkelon and has destroyed the children’s ward that treats Palestinian children from Gaza alongside Israeli children?

Anyone interested in the culture of young reporters should watch the question and answer session at the National Press Club last Wednesday with Israel’s ambassador to Australia, Amir Maimon. Some of the journalists there should be working for student newspapers.

Why do so few covering the events since the October 7 massacre of women and children in southern Israel fail to point out all were murdered in Israel proper? These were not settlers encroaching on Palestinian land.

Why do so many journalists unquestioningly report Gaza casualty figures given by Hamas without acknowledging what US President Joe Biden did last week: these are numbers from a terrorist organisation? We know Hamas claimed 500 were killed at the Al-Ahli Hospital but Israel insists at most 50 died.

Patricia Karvelas on RN Breakfast on Friday allowed Minister for Workplace Relations Tony Burke to imply Israel was to blame for water shortages in Gaza. She failed to point to the large Hamas fuel stockpile in Gaza that could fuel the city’s desalination plants. Hamas is the elected government of Gaza, not Israel.

Why have we seen so few attempts by journalists here to ask protesting Muslims if they condemn the murders of October 7? Do these journalists privately believe Israel deserved it, even though Israel vacated Gaza in 2005?

Why the media focus on false claims of collective punishment by Israel? Israel has been urging civilians for weeks to move to Gaza’s south. Why would Gaza’s political leaders be threatening people if they do want to move to safer areas?

It’s the same reason Hamas has for two decades been launching its missiles at Israel from within schools, hospitals and mosques. Journalists need to reflect on how Hamas uses the suffering of Palestinians to win the public relations war in the West against Israel.

Why is Hamas prepared to risk thousands of Palestinian civilians’ lives but Israel has delayed its ground invasion for weeks in an effort to seek the release of Jewish hostages? Does Israel care more about Israeli lives than Hamas does about Palestinian lives?

Why do so many news broadcasters run footage of pro-Palestinian marchers around the world chanting “from the river to the sea’’ without pointing out what this means? Since the settlement of the 1948-49 war after Arab states rejected the UN partition, Israeli territory included land west of the so-called Green Line to the sea.

The pro-Palestinian chant effectively urges the destruction of Israel.

Former Australian foreign minister Alexander Downer got it right in a tweet on October 23: “There are 56 Muslim nations, 103 so-called Christian nations and one Jewish state. If you think one is too many … yes, exactly. I don’t need to spell it out.” It’s about anti-Semitism: Jew hatred.

Why have so few media outlets reported what Sharri Markson did on Sky News on Tuesday night last week when Hamas terrorists captured by the IDF admitted on camera that they were being paid $US10,000 each and each had been promised a free apartment for taking hostages? Does ignoring such a story imply journalists think paid brutality is OK if used against Jews?

Why did the ABC, criticised when its reporter Tom Joyner cast doubt on stories of Israeli babies being beheaded, not prominently report that footage from Hamas body cameras was shown to foreign journalists on Monday night to prove these atrocities?

And how does the left’s preferred narrative of Israel as an apartheid colonial state really sit given Arabs, Druze and Christians all vote alongside Jews in the Knesset?

Of course Palestinian lives matter. But if the late PLO leader Yasser Arafat could not deliver the “Two State” deal he and former Israeli prime minister Yitzhak Rabin won the 1994 Nobel prize for, can anyone really see West Bank leader Mahmoud Abbas or Hamas delivering it?

This is the crux of the issue. Israel occupies Palestinian lands today after defeating Arab forces that refused to accept Israel’s boundaries as proposed by the UN in 1947. Jewish fighters in 1948-49 repelled attacking troops from Egypt, Iraq, Jordan, Lebanon and Syria and the subsequent Green Line settling the conflict represented terms that cost Palestinians some landearmarked for them.

British Mandate Palestine included all of what is now Jordan. The original British plan was for the territory east of the Jordan River to be an Arab Palestinian State. The British backtracked because of Arab pressure against any Jewish state.

Israel occupied more Palestinian land after the 1967 Six Day War when it defeated Egypt, Syria and Jordan. In the 1973 Yom Kippur War, it repelled Egypt and Syria.

In the face of so many conflicts, Israel pursued a Two State solution offering to hand much of this former Arab land back in return for peaceful coexistence.

Does anyone hear any Palestinian leader offering to stick to that deal now? Certainly not Hamas, whose original 1988 Charter clearly states its real aim is simply to kill Jews.

Trucks on highways in the US aren’t allowed to use the fast lane right lane. I think that’s a good idea, as it stops the pricks from moving lanes all the time.

Same as the Geelong Road.
Doesn’t stop some of the idiots playing pinball in the other 2-3 lanes though.

Rabz
Oct 29, 2023 10:07 PM
The Kurylenkette* … ?

*Non lush eyebrows

Much, much better.

Allow me to explain Sal.
It is called a pattern of behaviour.
Hiding behind a uniform.
Using the uniform to advance your position, or exact petty revenge on someone you take a dislike to.
As JC says, when someone flippantly admits a desire to write out $800 – $1,000 worth of tickets as part of a petty vendetta, it is well worth a look at what else they might have got up to.
A little surprised to hear you defending the excesses of rogue Plodsters.

Allow me to explain Sal.
It is called a pattern of behaviour.

Yep, a bland blog comment a few years ago is rock solid proof that the commenter is the sort of callous bastard who’d stand there & watch a woman in need die.

Are you Shane Drumgold under a bodgey name, by any chance?
You’re certainly exhibiting his standard of understanding of evidence.

Further to that Gabor, if that Ambo had turned up at Matthew Perry’s house and found him blue and unresponsive in the spa (in a worse condition than the woman in the park), do you think he would have just glibly “called it”?
No.
Because celebrity, and he knew he would be under scrutiny if he didn’t pull out all stops.
And he thought he would escape scrutiny on this one.

Actually, I had it wrong, it’s not the defence attorney in this case. It’s a crappy prosecutor defending a former cop who said he would dole out tickets if he didn’t like someone. How about that? Apropos.

Crikey, “mass shooting” in Florida. Early reports say 18 hit, with at least two dead.

I think it’s a little dramatic.

?? Kyle Bass ??
@Jkylebass
Just met with one of the world’s top terrorism experts in London. He’s a former terrorist himself…has a 180IQ…and has information networks all over the world. The U.S. nexus of Hamas and Hezbollah is in Dearborn, Michigan. He’s hearing calls to incite violence inside America.

Sancho Panzer
Oct 29, 2023 10:37 PM

Don’t go throwing “apropos” around here JC.

Just one last time then. Apropos.

This is the crux of the issue. Israel occupies Palestinian lands today after defeating Arab forces that refused to accept Israel’s boundaries as proposed by the UN in 1947.

Exactly. The Goat/Camel Shaggers did not accept the UN Proposal/Decision and they then started the Wars.

The “mass shooting” in Ybor City appears to be gang violence. 2 dead 18 injured. Uncommon in Florida, slow weekend in Chicago.

Sounds like Chicago gang-bangers on a P&O cruise around Flo’dah to me.

if this joint was the middle east, then you clowns would be hamas

Sal, I think you might have to get the Big Moral Equivalence Fire Truck out of the shed for this one.

Trans

You’re re-commencing the trolling again, yeah?

can someone give me recipe

anything will do

preferably something with 26 obscure ingredients i can rub on cheap bbq meat

then bore them shitless for hours talking about it

that and air-con control panels

JC

+ a trillion

as you are well aware, the resident sociopath has a penchant for inventing shit in his head to green-light his own abuse

All we want to know, is a sausage recipe, Trans. That’s all I’ve asked of you and you accuse me of being a sociopath. Fine, have it your way. If asking for a recipe makes me a sociopath then so be it.

the discord meta-verse sounds like a club where only clowns are allowed

God oracles are most certainly not invited.

and +1 to you too

Tell us, do you have a special recipe for cooking sausages too? You have at least three hours to tell explain to us.

Now this is where poor form comes into play.
Last night we had ten people over for dinner, and the eye fillet was met with universal acclaim.
Correct response:- “Thank you. I’m glad you enjoyed it.”
Incorrect response:- An hour long chapter and verse description of how long the meat had hung, what special rubs you put on it, how long you left it at room temperature before cooking, pre-searing and/or post searing, target internal temperature, resting times and resting temperature yada, yada.
Even if someone asks for a recipe, the correct response is “I’ll send it to you tomorrow”.
Never, ever go the chef-brag at the table.
No-one wants to hear it.
I do hope no-one here would do that.

Trans

You’re sounding really needy this evening.

MatrixTransform
Oct 29, 2023 11:54 PM

you cannot win JC

it’s because your construct is nothing but a fiction in your noggin mate.

… yr a bit of a mental fecker aren’t you?

Sure, to a God Oracle I’m all that an more. Impossible to win.

Liz

It wasn’t directed to the Vicpol cruiser.

Go back to bed.