Not Mandatory. Mandatory. Not Mandatory.


A guest post by Arky

From around the web:

September:

When Prime Minister Scott Morrison told 3AW a vaccine would be “as mandatory as you can possibly make it” there was an immediate backlash from some groups.

Mr Morrison even went so far as to suggest the grounds by which exemptions should be granted.

“There are always exemptions for any vaccine on medical grounds, but that should be the only basis,” he said.

A few hours later, talking on 2GB, Mr Morrison made a sharp departure from his earlier comments, ruling out a compulsory vaccine.

“It’s not going to be compulsory to have the vaccine,” he said.

November:

The vaccine will not be mandatory and individuals will maintain the option to choose not to vaccinate. The vaccine will be available for free to those who choose to be vaccinated.

-ABC

January:

Residents and workers in aged care facilities will not be required to get a vaccination in order to remain living or working there, Prime Minister Scott Morrison says.

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June:

Vaccinations will become mandatory for aged care workers, the Prime Minister has announced.

Scott Morrison said the decision was made at the emergency National Cabinet meeting between state and territory leaders on Monday night.

August:

The Commonwealth’s deadline for all workers in the aged care sector to be vaccinated is in mid-September.

The Prime Minister said the “important principle” of the national vaccine roll out was that the jab would be free and not mandatory.“We are not going to seek to impose a mandatory vaccination program by the government by stealth,” he said.

Last Friday, Mr Morrison outlined the options available to private businesses to enforce a vaccine mandate, which he reassured were existing powers under current legislation.

And:

The Therapeutic Goods Administration, July:

Death related to TTS

A 72-year-old woman from South Australia has sadly died after developing TTS following vaccination with her first dose of the AstraZeneca vaccine. The TGA extends its sincerest condolences to her family and loved ones.

TTS cases to date

Since last week’s report, a further seven reports of blood clots and low blood platelets have been assessed as confirmed or probable TTS likely to be linked to the AstraZeneca vaccine. One of the cases reported this week is critically unwell in intensive care.

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In summary:

When an individual takes a treatment that has a risk of death or disability and something subsequently goes wrong, as long as the individual was fully informed and every care was taken, that individual is responsible for their own misfortune.

When a government mandates a treatment that it knows will result in death and disability for a portion of those having the treatment a line is crossed. An important line, one that puts those enforcing the mandate in a position that is likely to lead to cynicism and callous disregard for individual deaths. In a large bureaucratic system, that’s what happens. It’s why we only do so in the case, usually, of war.

If this is a war, who are we at war with? And don’t tell me it’s a war against a virus. Wars are against people. Not viruses or “terror”. So who are the actual humans we are at war with if we are taking wartime measures? Is it, like with the war on terror, that it is again impolite to say who this war is against?

Something furthermore should be said about the deliberate move of risk from older people to younger people. Because that is the effect of mandating vaccines for everyone when the vaccine might kill a younger person, but the virus mainly kills older people. If the government knows something about the origins and likely course of this pathogen that leads it to believe that younger people might in the near future be at more risk from it, they should make that information clearly known.


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rosie
rosie
August 19, 2021 12:26 pm

I agree. No mandates and no sooking about nudging either.

We are talking about legal adults, not children.

The vaccine program should never have focused on anyone but the at risk, the demographics of which are now well established.

Gladys hairdresser carrot btw is the last word in pathetic.

How did we end up as the covid terror laughing stock of the universe when we actually are about the only country not to have experienced the pandemic?

Arky
August 19, 2021 12:34 pm

First paragraph is a quote from the ABC, linking here for attribution:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-09-16/fact-file-mandatory-vaccination-is-it-possible/12661804?nw=0

rickw
rickw
August 19, 2021 1:14 pm

None of this makes sense, nor is it meant to make sense.

This is about shaking the population into a state of confusion and therefore making them willing to accept anything to bring relief.

I am not at all confused about is going on:

Australian politicians, bureaucrats, police and media have launch a brutal and relentless psychological war on the Australian People.

If we don’t lose sight of this, and turn on them instead of each other, we will prevail.

Shy Ted
Shy Ted
August 19, 2021 1:51 pm

Agree. Everybody knows they are doing as they are told but that doesn’t stop them being criminally responsible for psychopathic behaviour.

Megan
Megan
August 19, 2021 1:56 pm

Nothing about any of this has made sense since the very beginning. We have simply descended, week by week, lockdown by lockdown, further down the rabbit hole. And our esteemed Rabbit In Charge has no looking glass or magic teapot to get us out of it.

Gilas
Gilas
August 19, 2021 2:22 pm

rickw says:
August 19, 2021 at 1:14 pm

Australian politicians, bureaucrats, police and media have launch a brutal and relentless psychological war on the Australian People.

If we don’t lose sight of this, and turn on them instead of each other, we will prevail.

Yes, but there’s virtually no evidence that people will NOT turn on each other.
They’re already doing so, the actions of the culprits wholly supported by MSM and government.
The few protest marches have been well repressed by authorities and demonised by the MSM, without exception.

There are only two ways this can go:

1) Passive, fragmented resistance will eventually fail, given the institutional forces arraigned against protestors. Thus long, dark days ahead, before common sense returns in several decades, at least.

2) If there is enough sustained, open opposition, then violence will result. Thus long, dark days ahead, but a quicker resolution.

The “democratic ” process has long ago failed to redress the gradual descent into chaos that we have been witnessing.

Gilas
Gilas
August 19, 2021 2:27 pm

Of course, given the clusterfuck that the US is becoming, there’s the very real possibility that Chey-nah will “solve” our problems ahead of time.

Let the activists argue about preferred pronouns and white privilege then!

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
August 19, 2021 2:56 pm

I tend to agree with Megan. There has never been a plan and every response has been a shoot-from-the-hip one. Half the time it is obvious that they make up their responses as they go along, with little empirical epidemiological back up to the latest quick-fire draw ‘solution’ or at least something for the media to breathlessly report, in order to look as though the powers-that-be know what they are doing. The health bureaucrats have been panicked by modelling and by ‘unknowns’ such as the mooted Long Covid. They should be honest about what they do know and expect from this virus, and what they are doing on a ‘precautionary’ basis that may be worse than useless because it causes harm while avoiding none.

Ellen of Tasmania
Ellen of Tasmania
August 19, 2021 3:54 pm

Half the time it is obvious that they make up their responses as they go along

Perhaps, but please note that the responses all lie in one direction.

Each response may be ‘on the fly’ but the direction is certainly not.

Diogenes
Diogenes
August 19, 2021 4:07 pm

As I have reported before, Mrs D’s aunt had the dreaded covid last year. Mrs D just spoke with her, “that arsehole that gave it to me(referring to the friend that gave it to her), is still showing antibodies 15 months later (he is in a ‘trial’ in SFO where he undergoes a monthly blood test and is remaining unvaxxed until he shows very low levels). Anyhoo, the reason for the post …she had her second AZ jab on Monday morning, by Monday night she was as sick as a dog, “it felt just like the real covid” and only surfaced this morning. She has no memory of Tuesday or yesterday except everything ached including her fingernails, and she had an even worse headache than when she was struck down by the pox, today the headache and other aches can be controlled by Panadol, but she is as week as a kitten.

Arky
August 20, 2021 1:17 am

Testing

Arky
August 20, 2021 1:18 am

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