1,943 thoughts on “Open Thread – Weekend 18 Sept 2020”

  1. Now that Porter is out of the ministry he can make it his life’s work to put things right for what the ABC did to him but also the purgatory they put Pell through as well as others mentioned by Cassie .
    Being a a minister limits what you can say and do so maybe we don’t know his true beliefs on those matters . The amount of cognitive dissonance required to remain in the club must be mind confusing at times .


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  2. The latest version of this bill is before the Victorian Senate. There’s a link at the site. Andrews is authorising the use of foreign police and troops against the Australian population.

    Indolent
    This Federal legislation, it has nothing to with Dan or Victoria – its on Scummo


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  3. I thought the majority of current cases in Australia were in immigrant communities in north west Melbourne and south East Sydney.
    My lga recorded 2 cases last week.
    Not really surprised that not many people know anyone with it.


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  4. Remember the chinese & russian propagandists pumping videos of blood frothed citizens collapsing in the streets of Wuhan on Sinc’s cat in Feb/March 2020?

    I remember Zyconoclast keeping us up-to-date with them, and good on him.

    A few may have been staged by various parties interested in creating trouble either at home or abroad (one of a young woman upended in a fruit shop comes to mind as creating suspicions in me at the time), but some were probably real as sick people stoically carried on alone until the point of collapse. Also, collapse can be due to many other conditions, such as sudden heart attacks, in a population of eleven million. The hospital chaos was certainly real.

    The initial attacks of a new virus are often the worst ones. Some of the reports from the 1918 start of the Great Influenza showed some terrible and very sudden cases, bloody outcomes and quick deaths.


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  5. One of Dr. Norman Swan’s gems of wisdom:

    “It’s not germs we have to worry about in a pandemic, it’s how we live.”

    Proof he’s a misanthrope in the guise of a physician.


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  6. Thank you Tom. Some good comments this morning.
    Pretty dispondant down here in Danistoria.

    Be interesting to see what fellow work colleagues say this week.

    My overseas colleagues think we are fucking mental. …and we are. I used to be proud of this country. Not so much any more.

    I’ll put it down to Monday morning blues.

    Have a better week everyone.


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  7. The inevitable gloat piece from the ABC over Porter:

    Christian Porter was being groomed as a future State Premier of Western Australia, but chose to make the move to Federal politics..


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  8. Eyrie says:
    September 20, 2021 at 8:47 am

    Andrews seems to be calling for a revolution.

    Well the entire rotten, corrupt edifice of Australian government at all levels needs to be torn down and rebuilt.
    This time with a real Australian Constitution that severely restricts what government can do AT ALL LEVELS.
    If some thing is unconstitutional for governments to do, no companies or private individuals can do it either.

    With an inbuilt ZERO Taxation.

    No-one should be able to compulsorily seize your goods under the guise of ‘taxation’ nor your individual sovereignty under the guise of mandatory drug testing.

    Paying for items of public “good” is entirely voluntary for sovereign individuals and should not be dictated by the ‘demos’.


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  9. I’ll put it down to Monday morning blues.

    Life goes on, Fair Shake. Head for the little luxuries – a shower with pine forest soap, some good coffee, a bit of bonhomie at the take-away counter or at work. You are not alone either. Vent here.

    I’m heading for my online dance class now before I am accused by an ill-wisher of ‘forcing my remedies’ on you. These are just things that work for me and seem sensible, like taking vitamins. 🙂


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  10. I’m intrigued by some of the comments on that Twitter feed. The approval for what the police did to that woman appears to come from a younger cohort.

    They’ve spent 12 years in school being indoctrinated, calli.

    The prog-left motto is:

    “If you control the children you control the future.”


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  11. @Fair Shake

    Further to Calli’s comment above there is nothing wrong with continuing pride in Australia.

    The real purpose of excess in Australia and all Western Nations is to drive us to the Great Reset.


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  12. Dr Faustus says:
    September 20, 2021 at 8:12 am

    Unfortunately our Leaders have handed responsibility over to their Health Supremos and turned Covid into a political Numbers competition.

    As noted upthread, Victoriastan already has a Road Safety authority that has a target of 0 road deaths – this is a real target, not some aspirational goal, and they have a whole series of punitive measures to get there.

    The state apparatus absolutely refuses to acknowledge economic damage in any analysis. It’s almost a religious aversion.

    Until this changes (which I can’t see happening) we’re in lockdown. 2022, 2023, 2024 … we will spend every May – Dec locked up.


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  13. shatterzzz says:
    September 20, 2021 at 8:26 am
    ….
    And what about the testing?

    I also pass another in Rooty Hill, once a week, parking for 250 vehicles and several hi-vis guides standing around .. never seen more than 2 cars in the place at the same time …..
    Somewhere must be verrrrrrrry busy .. but where?

    That has got my antennae twitching.

    The numbers have always been whatever we were told they were. But how do we know they are correct, accurate or even if they are a fabrication?

    To even form that question in the mind indicates the utter trashing of trust that has happened because of the way our supposed “betters” have handled this.

    Perhaps some enterprising “journalist” could have a bit of a bo-peep into where the testing is actually occurring, how many people are really turning up at the testing stations etc.

    If anyone else passes any testing stations, perhaps we could collect some indications here.

    In my own larger regional town there is a testing centre which I do sometimes drive past. Only once have I seen any vehicles there, and then only a few when there was a scare on in the SE corner. One in the nearest regional city just looks abandoned and forlorn any time I drive past.


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  14. Christian Porter was being groomed as a future State Premier of Western Australia, but chose to make the move to Federal politics.

    You could hardly be more of the “political class” than Christian Porter.

    Ambition in spades, but what does he believe in other than himself?


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  15. All anti coof jab protesters are far right nazis…

    The Nazis were best understood as people who wanted the government out of their lives and defend the right of all individuals to make their own decisions.

    Sneakers be a very deeeep thinker.


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  16. Eyrie says:
    September 20, 2021 at 8:47 am

    If some thing is unconstitutional for governments to do, no companies or private individuals can do it either.

    That’s my take on this too, Eyrie.

    How can it be possible or legal for a private company or business to do something that it is illegal for the federal government to do?

    If federal law – by order of the Constitution – overrides all other levels of law, how is it legal for any business to enforce something that the feds cannot?


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  17. I wonder how many people who feed off domestic media only have the slightest idea that there are large scale protests overseas as well.

    These are people who will actually respond to things like the 70 year old woman being knocked down and pepper sprayed by two police thugs with glib rejoinders like ‘Serves her right. She should have followed the CHO’s rules and stayed home.’


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  18. Cassie earlier.
    I agree with all of that except maybe point 2.
    I think the release of the redacted HC sections was a good thing. Remember, this was going to be the silver bullet “evidence” which launched a thousand civil cases. It turned out to be nothing more than idle speculation about who knew what and when.
    Had he not released it there would have been rolling “special investigations” by the ABC quoting “anonymous sources familiar with the RC” talking about the “damning secret evidence”.
    ScoMo’s appalling “stand with victims” comment at the time I would take issue with.
    And, as they are wont to do, these chickens are coming home to roost.
    The ABC is all over accusations of sexual assault at ScoMo’s church, Hillsong.


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  19. More and more, this springs to mind:
    Come now, my child,
    if we were planning to harm you,
    do you think we’d be lurking here beside the path
    in the very darkest part of the forest?



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  20. Police will consider using specially equipped Public Order Response Team officers to confront violent anti-lockdown protesters in future, declaring they will now be treated as rioters rather than demonstrators.

    Like I said.

    Those AR-15’s beckon, they call to these small souled bugmen in their dreams, glistening black, oh god how badly they want to unleash them on the filth.


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  21. sfwsays:
    September 20, 2021 at 7:08 am
    Wuflu death – I enquired about an old neighbour of mine, his daughter was very upset, she told me that “dad died from covid late last year (Vic)”. Then she told me he was 95, but the covid killed him.

    ..
    He died of being 95, and took some covid off the planet with him.


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  22. These are people who will actually respond to things like the 70 year old woman being knocked down and pepper sprayed by two police thugs with glib rejoinders like ‘Serves her right. She should have followed the CHO’s rules and stayed home.’

    There actually are, on the “Daily Mail” online comments section.


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  23. Chinese aligned Government that has abolished democracy now declares anyone who organises to complain is officially an enemy of the state.

    You are in a revolution that is now going hot. Do you know that? Do I? Do any of us really internalise what is happening here?

    Let us start with what is obvious: What is happening is a permanent and fundamental political transformation of our society, government, culture and politics, at the point of a gun.


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  24. Those AR-15’s beckon, they call to these small souled bugmen in their dreams, glistening black, oh god how badly they want to unleash them on the filth.

    Yes, a solution in search of a problem.


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  25. ScoMo’s appalling “stand with victims” comment at the time I would take issue with.

    What makes it even more appalling is that until the ABC’s accusations against Porter came to light, this government had a track record of overlooking the right to the presumption of innocence; indeed, Porter and Morrison were two of the worst offenders in that regard.


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  26. Drug fucked arseholes from the 60’s 70’s 80’s, whenever, now want purebloods to participate in drug testing to justify their own fucked in the head ‘logic’…


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  27. Those AR-15’s beckon, they call to these small souled bugmen in their dreams, glistening black, oh god how badly they want to unleash them on the filth.

    The ‘small souled bugmen” won’t join the military to use a rifle – someone might shoot back…


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  28. The small testing station near me is usually very quiet, I see it every day, pretty much but that’s not surprising considering the number of cases locally.
    I also drive past a big one in Newport once a week, early morning quiet but it’s often busy in the pm, once so much that people were being redirected to the Melbourne showgrounds testing station.


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  29. Bushkid says:
    September 20, 2021 at 9:39 am

    If federal law – by order of the Constitution – overrides all other levels of law, how is it legal for any business to enforce something that the feds cannot?

    Regarding customers or employees? With the latter, behemoth bureaucracies like Queensland Health, for example, have enormous authority to impact the health and wellbeing of their employees, and are largely protected against the consequences due to the high cost of legal representation for the aggrieved.

    Qld Health can issue employment directives – like the most recent HED 12/21 mandating compulsory vaccination against Covid-19 – by stating “This Directive is lawful”, and provide only the most vague – or no – justification. Any questioning or requests for clarification are met with threats regarding the consequences of non-compliance.

    My point is that these directives – be they employee-centred or public health focused – have been publicly framed as the equivalent of legislation authored by elected representatives.


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  30. bullshit Lizzie.

    It is the normal annual ‘flu’ repurposed for political mayhem.

    I want to know how many Australians have NOT been exposed.

    Exactly. Annual flu cases went to zero, Covid cases equaled previous annual flu cases.

    This bloody thing stinks to high heaven.


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  31. One international development that bears watching is the newly errupted volcano on La Palma island in the Canaries:

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-20/la-palma-volcano-erupts-spain-ash-lava-evaucation/100475302

    This is the island that a lot of doccos were made: Where there was a real threat of a part of the island fracturing and slipping into the sea creating a tsunami that would cause massive damage in the Americas.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6utAunBKXV4


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  32. The Liberals remind me, oddly enough, of a scene in that series ‘Walking with Monsters’.

    This is the one about life before dinosaurs up to the Permian-Triassic extinction.

    There is a scene with a herd of migrating Lystrosaurus making their way through a ravine at night, very much moving like cattle at an easy pace with no purpose except the herd, a few here and there uttering the occasional random guttural lowing. They are set upon by a Therocephalian – a lean predator that stalks prey with the stealth, then pounces with the explosive energy, of a lion.

    The Therocephalian gets its kill, and its pride moves in for the feast. But with the exception of the very brief but fatal contest the other Lystrosaurus just continue on their way precisely as before. Feeding predators are no threat to them. There is absolutely no bond between the creatures.

    The Liberals, or Liberalsaurus, will allow their numbers to be picked off one by one. When one is attacked the others just continue on unperturbed since it is not them, until it is they who are attacked and they are doomed to a terrifying lonely death where their only hope is that it is quick.


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  33. Photographer Luis Ascui was sprayed directly in the eyes while photographing the rally on Saturday afternoon despite identifying himself as a media representative.

    Avi has an interview with him, Luis seems to be a genuinely decent bloke. Doesn’t seem to have seen this sort of targeting in his professional career.


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  34. Police harassment
    This has NOTHING to do with a virus or health and safety.

    NSW is a total police state.

    Police – month by month becoming more and more like medieval kings men – armed gangs roaming around in public going to people’s houses telling them they aren’t allowed to even think about going out into the same public space.

    What we have is the ‘enclosure’ of the public space, a sort of final abolition of the last remaining commons.

    This is the very core of the revolution that is happening: the public space, the area outside of your front gate is being declared by the government as its personal private property, a sort of neo-feudal crownland situation, and you, the public must have permission to enter its property. That permission is to be granted and managed via a licensing system. A ‘passport’ to enter their land, which you will only have if you behave.

    A complete reversal of 1000 years of anglo history, of fighting, often dying, we took ‘Crown land’ off the king, as his personal property, and put it and access to it, into the trust of the public.

    As far as the governing class is concerned the right to walk down the street officially became a privilege in March 2020, when they dipped their toe in the water, ordered everyone off it, and everyone obediently accepted it and shut ourselves in little tenant-block islands of ‘private property’. They took that compliance as people accepting the new proposition that going out in public is a right we don’t want anymore, and are happy to accept it is a ‘privilege’.

    Everything that’s followed since has been to institute the system to monitor and administer this new ‘privilege’. Vast technology systems are being built, governance processes created, integration with ‘public’ entities and businesses, policing. Even the narrative is shifting, people themselves are now making the case that ‘passports’ are you know, just like a drivers license, it is after all, the governments land you’re walking on.

    This stuff is the New Normal they’re talking about. A new society, they’ll tell you it will be a peaceful and illness-free and low crime society they’re delivering you. But look at what it rests upon, look at how dark the police uniforms are getting, look at their swaggering behaviour. These people are utopian revolutionaries, and this will end the same way as any of the same last century.


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  35. If federal law – by order of the Constitution – overrides all other levels of law, how is it legal for any business to enforce something that the feds cannot?

    Worth noting that the Federal government has mandated vaccination for aged care workers.

    Government advice to private employers is that they can mandate vaccination “if reasonable” but should be prepared for legal blowback.

    Big and small business peak bodies are not satisfied with that & want the government to indemnify them.

    Hairdressers are an exception so far; I wouldn’t have expected them to be a bastion of liberty but there it is. Good for them!


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  36. dover0beach says:
    September 20, 2021 at 12:46 am

    I’ve seen it reported that the elderly lady pushed over by plod broke a hip and suffered concussion. Will be interesting to see how Mitchell and Elliot spin this tomorrow.

    Failure to render assistance? (Might not be a charge, but certainly a moral or code of conduct issue).


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  37. “These items amend the delegation power in section 120A of the Act. New subsection 123AA(4) provides for the Secretary or the ADF to authorize a Commonwealth employee or member of a foreign armed force to provide relevant assistance under new subsection 123AA(1). This has the effect of these individuals becoming a ‘protected person’ for the purposes of subsection 123AA(1).”

    Holy shit.

    This cannot be serious.

    Can it?

    ?


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  38. On the other hand, why would we give US personnel stationed here on exercise absolution from legal liability? Or excuse the ADF from criminal prosecution?

    At best it’s dumb, at worst it is so dystopian and nightmarish.

    It doesn’t make a parallel with diplomats, as our ADF personnel are mentioned too.


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  39. If the 70 year old white woman knocked arse over head and pepper sprayed at point blank by cops had instead been Aunty Joan, a proud Indigenous woman of the Kulin nation, her assailants would by now have been publicly named and suspended from duty pending the outcome of a thorough investigation.


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  40. Top Endersays:

    September 20, 2021 at 10:09 am

    Age photographer story in their own newspaper – was open access for me so hopefully for you too:

    This is the problem with the Nein-left media in Melbourne.
    Plod excesses are only a problem if they are under attack directly, or it is one of their victim totem pole groups.
    Example. A gay guy got caught up in a drug raid in Fitzroy a couple of years ago and got roughed up by the cops. High dungeon and big compo ensued.
    Now, I will bet this happens on a regular basis to Hetero Joe from Broady, but Joe needn’t waste the 20 cents calling Nein-Age over it.


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  41. Dotsays:
    September 20, 2021 at 10:43 am
    On the other hand, why would we give US personnel stationed here on exercise absolution from legal liability? Or excuse the ADF from criminal prosecution?

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    Because they are subject to military law.


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  42. 10cc – Rubber Bullets

    Don’t miss the photos of the Justice for J6 rally in DC. Hilarious, especially the one where a Capitol police heavy went to arrest a “protestor”. Instapundit has a fair number.


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  43. Does anyone remember (or better still, have the video of) the mincing VikPlod dude dancing around in front of a tiny group of protestors in the ‘burbs like a Ninja, with his pepper-spray can pointed at all and sundry?


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  44. Big and small business peak bodies are not satisfied with that & want the government to indemnify them.

    I’d be getting a lot of legal advice before mandating any employees to get jabbed. Even if the mandate is cloaked in “recommendations” etc, it can still be taken as structural enforcement – and hence the business will exposed to claims for compensation etc.

    I would also be looking at my workers comp insurance. I’d bet the premiums will skyrocket for those mandating the Jab.

    And it is now clear that the governments do not have the legal right to mandate, let alone enforce anyone to be jabbed! Even the HR Commission agrees:

    https://humanrights.gov.au/about/covid19-and-human-rights/covid-19-vaccinations-and-federal-discrimination-law


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  45. The explanatory memorandum lays it all out. Foreign troops in Australia.

    This is the biggest red pill of my life.

    No shit. WTF is going on?! If you don’t have a rifle go and get as many you can ASAP.


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  46. rickwsays:
    September 20, 2021 at 10:00 am
    Any update on the lady that Vikpol slammed into the pavement and pepper sprayed? Is she ok?

    Yeah, sort of. An email from her last night saying she’s on the road to recovery. She thanks all for the prayers and says that only by the Grace of God she is recovering well.

    She is amazing. She said she forgives the two police officers and also goes on to mention that another young police officer came to her aid who was helping her especially with her eyes.


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  47. Arkysays:

    September 20, 2021 at 10:47 am

    Dotsays:
    September 20, 2021 at 10:43 am
    On the other hand, why would we give US personnel stationed here on exercise absolution from legal liability? Or excuse the ADF from criminal prosecution?

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    Because they are subject to military law.

    Yeah, I am not getting too excited about this.
    It covers people like US Marines in Darwin if they are seconded into, say, cyclone relief, and a legal liability issue arises.
    It simply means the jurisdiction is military, not civil.
    Mind you, when the Vicco emergency powers were drafted, people had front of mind that this was about short term powers for natural disasters.
    Legislation like this needs to be very specific as to the circumstances it covers.


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  48. bullshit Lizzie.

    Flying Pigs: It is the normal annual ‘flu’ repurposed for political mayhem.

    I want to know how many Australians have NOT been exposed.
    ——-
    RickW: Exactly. Annual flu cases went to zero, Covid cases equaled previous annual flu cases.

    This bloody thing stinks to high heaven.

    The overseas medically-attested experience would suggest you are both wrong. Read the medical research literature. Covid has been a real epidemic with many different signs, symptoms, viral profile and treatment requirements, which has hit the aged in particular. It is not the ‘flu although it has probably supplanted the ‘flu as a killer of the aged and comorbid. It gets them hard and quick, before ‘flu does, because there is a level of herd immunity to ‘flu. Some Covid cases have also been ‘flu cases, of that I have no doubt. However, ‘flu has also been curtailed dur Covid outbreaks as ‘flu vaxxes have gone through the roof, while the sanitation and isolation measures introduced for Covid have also affected the transfer of influenza.

    The experience of the Third World would also suggest Covid is a distinct contagious disease.

    I agree that the politicisation and dramatisation of Covid has the potential to make differing interpretations seem viable, indeed some of them at certain times may even have a grain of truth. But to deny Covid overall is not a bandwagon I wish to be on. Others here might, and that is their prerogative.


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  49. Photographer Luis Ascui was sprayed directly in the eyes while photographing the rally on Saturday afternoon despite identifying himself as a media representative.

    I have a creeping suspicion that The Ague will see this not as the Victorian State Police (Vicstapo) dropping all pretenses of service to the community to instead brutalise citizens with unjustified ferocity, but merely a mistake by police in accidentally treating a member of the press the way that the crazed ‘anti-vaxxers’ rightfully were treated.

    By the way – has Dan called it an insurrection yet?


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  50. Edward Joseph Leonski (December 12, 1917 – November 9, 1942) was an American soldier and serial killer responsible for the strangling murders of three women in Melbourne, Australia. …
    Although Leonski’s crimes were committed on Australian soil, the trial was conducted under American military law. Leonski confessed to the crimes and was convicted and sentenced to death at a general court-martial on July 17, 1942.


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  51. 1955:

    Sergeant Isaac J. Hurt was brought up on charges of rape and murder by a U.S. court-martial in Okinawa. Hurt insisted upon his innocence, but his court martial lasted 13 days and he was convicted after a deliberation of less than an hour, and sentenced to death.


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  52. MSM journalist at Justice for J6 rally sidles up to a protester.

    Journo: “What do you think of the rally today?”
    Protester: “Ve are not here. Go avay! Schnell!” [shows badge]
    Journo: “Oh, um, sorry. Is there anyone I can interview? I have a deadline.”
    Protester: “Vell, you could go unt talk viz that fir tree over zhere, I zink he’s CIA.”


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  53. She is amazing. She said she forgives the two police officers and also goes on to mention that another young police officer came to her aid who was helping her especially with her eyes.

    I’m glad one of them was helping her as any normal person would. The other two thugs can get the book thrown at them as far as I am concerned.


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  54. A contrary case:

    Following the death of Laude, Pemberton was detained by the U.S. Navy, first on board his ship and then inside Camp Aguinaldo, the headquarters of the Armed Forces of the Philippines, located in Quezon City, Metro Manila.

    On December 15, 2014, the Olongapo City Prosecutor’s Office of the Philippine Department of Justice found probable cause to charge Pemberton with murder and that day he was charged with murder in front of the Olongapo City Regional Trial Court Branch 74…
    On September 7, 2020, President Rodrigo Duterte granted an absolute pardon to Pemberton.


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  55. Cats, I made a passing quip about Sammie Crumpets last night.

    I saw her screed Bloodlust, Lies and Trust in Dymocks yesterday. It is the size of a pocket Diary/Planner (giving you an idea of how long and detailed it actually is- The print inside is about 15-18pt) and cost $20.

    Morbid curiosity overcame me, and I did have a cursory flip through a couple of pages. It was a helluva lot of near-incomprehensible academic gobbledygook, with no real details, allegations or accusations to anchor its proclamations about how the ADF’s culture is problematic. Much like the only time I read a Fifty Shades of Grey book, I read two paragraphs of torturously connected prose and my brain threw up. I repeated this experiment on some other pages, to experience the same outcome.

    You’re all welcome.

    I noted that this was squeezed into a very inconspicuous spot in the ‘Military History’ section rather than the ‘Current Affairs and Politics’ shelf with all its rows of 51 flavours of Orangutan Bard- REEEEEEEEEE!!!1! and Communism Will Save You From Your Ignorant, Planet-killing Ways, Peasants! SO COMPLY!

    Bugmen just have to bug, I guess. But you need to shift a lot of these at $20 a pop in order to make a profit, let alone commission. Does Melbourne University Press have some sort of wealthy backer who can absorb massive losses, so it can pop out little woke pamphlets like this en masse for a few Goat Cheese Belters to put on their shelves and boast about? Publishing in this country is supposedly an industry on its knees and subjected to the most punishing of production margins, after all…


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  56. However, ‘flu has also been curtailed dur Covid outbreaks as ‘flu vaxxes have gone through the roof, while the sanitation and isolation measures introduced for Covid have also affected the transfer of influenza.

    These factors may have influenced the number of flu cases. But bringing the flu cases to virtually zero? Seriously.


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  57. Madison says:

    “It’s been a crazy few months and I believe being run down physically and mentally may have made me more susceptible.

    Woman sitting in a hospital bed
    Madison Wilson in hospital after testing positive for COVID-19.(Instagram: Madison Wilson)
    “I feel extremely unlucky but I do believe this is a huge wake-up call, COVID is a serious thing and, when it comes, it hits very hard.”

    Lowered immunity is like a comorbidity. Which is why I stress Vitamin D3, Zinc, and Vitamin C as a prophylactic measure for everyone. She’s only in hospital for observation and as a precaution.
    She’ll probably come though fine, given her youth and fitness level overall but may find Oxygen helpful for a while. It’s awful not to be able to breathe well.


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  58. I’m gathering Tolkien quotes at the minute and this pops up:

    Tolkien, who created this marvellous vehicle, doesn’t go anywhere in it. He just sits where he is. What I mean by that is that he always seems to be looking backwards, to a greater and more golden past; and what’s more he doesn’t allow girls or women any important part in the story at all. Life is bigger and more interesting than The Lord of the Rings thinks it is.”
    ? Philip Pullman

    What a dipshit. Not only does it exhibit the well-worn idiocies of liberalism (dissatisfaction with the past and present, overweening concern with gender, and the like) but it is simply wrong on both counts, (i) looking backwards to a greater and more golden past and (ii) allow girls/women any important part in the story. Re (i), its not at all clear that the First or Second Age were more golden than the Third Age, given that Melkor, and later Sauron deal great ruin to both, respectively, while Sauron is finally defeated in the Third Age, which leads on to the peace of the Fourth Age, the Age of Men. And (ii), did he miss Galadriel, who is the mightiest of the Elves in the Third Age? And Éowyn who kills the Lord of the Nazgul? Honestly, these people are full of it.


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  59. Top Endersays:
    September 20, 2021 at 10:09 am

    Age photographer story in their own newspaper – was open access for me so hopefully for you too:
    https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/age-photographer-capsicum-sprayed-by-police-during-protest-20210919-p58sx7.html

    So, VicPol admit to being undisciplined, panic prone thugs, oh, and liars –

    “Police Association boss Wayne Gatt said journalists and photographers do “an essential job”, but said reporters being injured by police resulted from the volatile nature of the situation.

    “It’s really unfortunate when that happens, but it sometimes becomes an absolute unavoidable consequence …. just the sheer panic of the situation, the unpredictability in those scenes is sometimes really hard to control,” he said on Sunday morning.”

    Genuinely, rightly frightened average citizens managed to avoid trampling, attacking or hurting downed & alone police who lay between them & freedom, but Police just couldn’t resist attacking cleary alone & unthreatening little old ladies & journalists.

    Seems VicPol is deliberately trying to inspire the next lot of protestors to, ‘go the hack’ against Police and so ‘justify’ Police shooting The People.


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  60. Does Melbourne University Press have some sort of wealthy backer who can absorb massive losses, so it can pop out little woke pamphlets like this en masse for a few Goat Cheese Belters to put on their shelves and boast about?

    Yes, his name is George.


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  61. So the old lady forgives the 2 punks who knocked her down and then pepper sprayed her for about 10 seconds. FMD.

    Rowe and brown were the dumbest of Tom’s toons; this was the best:

    https://cdn.creators.com/1054/310581/310581_image.jpg

    The demorats are literally destroying the US to stay in power; and I like what he does with the old creep. The liars did it here in Australia, with the krudd/slapper hydra opening the flood gates for it believed, correctly, were future liar/filth voters.


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  62. another young police officer came to her aid who was helping her especially with her eyes

    If you’re a police officer and you have this instinct, get out while you can.


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  63. But bringing the flu cases to virtually zero? Seriously.

    Rick, I think the explanation lies more in lockdowns. People feeling sick who tested negative in the great testing round-ups just went home and self-cared without seeing a doc as they might once have done, with the docs forwarding them to path and notifying results. Those going to hospital with ‘flu are usually the elderly and comorbid and Covid caught them first, as I said above, with the ‘flu chiming in too. Interesting to see if ‘flu tests were right down. I think kids admitted with ‘flu would be an interesting number to follow – same sort of thing applies – not taken as seriously in Covid times. I know my two year old grandson who goes to child-care has been through almost weekly Covid tests, and the poor little mite is always slightly unwell with a cough, green snot and the miseries. Just normal, say the docs. My arse. But you can’t tell the parents or they take offense.


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  64. Gabsays:
    September 20, 2021 at 10:53 am

    Glad to hear Gab. She is much better than I am, I still feel my blood pressure rising each time I see that dog act she received.

    Dot serious question. So does that amendment to the act mean if requested the ADF could be called out for riot control? I would draw the line there and say that is unacceptable in peace time. IMO the closest the ADF should get to policing is being used for counter terrorism…


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  65. Gladys today.
    Absolutely chilling.

    “Pleasingly for 12-15-year-olds, we know that now 20 per cent of 12-15-year-olds have had their first dose of the vaccine,” Ms Berejiklian said.

    “Given that was only made available about a week ago that is an outstanding result and we are urging all parents to consider vaccinating their 12-15-year-olds.

    “We want to make sure that when school goes back we have not only great coverage in the adult place of vaccination but in the 12-15-year-old group which is so critical.”


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  66. Arkysays:
    September 20, 2021 at 10:51 am

    Hi Arky – I’ve responded on that thread. Sorry, I disagree with you. 😀

    I think I could produce ivermectin in my garden shed, with reasonably basic equipment and the right input materials. Most important being the Japanese soil bacterium and the culturing method.


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  67. I have a creeping suspicion that The Ague will see this not as the Victorian State Police (Vicstapo) dropping all pretenses of service

    Editrix Alcorn is already playing that game:

    No mention in the story of the old girl pushed down and pepper sprayed, even though she is present in the pics. Why? So Alcorn can play the game of being ‘concerned’ but not too critical.

    “We understand the police have a tough job at protests, but so do journalists and photographers who must be allowed to witness and report on major news events.”

    Margo Kingston’s half-sister, don’t forget.

    A proper editor would have put the attack on the Age snapper in the context of what anyone who has watched the clips knows for a moral certainty: out-of-control filth inflicting random violence on anyone, including old ladies, unlucky enough to be directly in front of them.

    Alcorn now awaits a po-faced response from VicPol, which she will humbly accept and continue with the business of not noticing the Andrews regime, which her paper mostly supports, is a nest of arrogant, authoritarian incompetents revelling in their presumed right to inflict State violence on their critics.

    There is a strong rumour in Melbourne’s inky circles that The Age will soon announce an end to M-F publication, or so Age hacks are being told when they ask why their contracts aren’t being renewed.

    If true, no great loss.


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  68. the peace of the Fourth Age, the Age of Men. And (ii), did he miss Galadriel, who is the mightiest of the Elves in the Third Age? And Éowyn who kills the Lord of the Nazgul? Honestly, these people are full of it.

    I loved Lord of the Rings. Read it when I was about twenty-seven. Totally immersed for days.
    No piece of woke nonsense is ever going to take the pleasure and joy of those few days away from me.


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  69. a moral certainty: out-of-control filth inflicting random violence on anyone, including old ladies, unlucky enough to be directly in front of them.

    NSW police not off the hook on that either. They haven’t quite reached the Vicfilth level though.


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  70. “Pleasingly for 12-15-year-olds, we know that now 20 per cent of 12-15-year-olds have had their first dose of the vaccine,” Ms Berejiklian said.

    Chilling all right. This is the study I linked about a week ago.

    Scientists: Boys Aged 12-15 Are Hospitalized Up To 23x More Due To COVID Vaccines Than Due To COVID (11 Sep)

    Underreporting “vaccine-related harms” to children

    On the 23rd of August, the Federal Drug Administration (FDA) reported the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine conferred “an excess risk” of myocarditis approaching 200 cases per million (1/5000) for boys aged 16 and 17 (Høeg et al., 2021). This is a rate 3 times higher than the rate of myocarditis claimed by the CDC.

    A new study (pre-print) suggests the health costs and cardiac adverse events (CAE) associated with vaccinating children far exceed the perceived health benefits of preventing COVID infection.

    Yep, lets sacrifice young boys for the cause so we can look like we saved all the Karens.


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  71. Matthew Guy now on 3AW saying policing is a tough job (blah, blah, blah), don’t go to demonstrations (blah, blah, blah), protest at the ballot box (blah, blah, blah).

    What a pathetic weasel.

    Whatever hope there is for Victoria, it doesn’t have anything to do with the SFLs.


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  72. rickwsays:
    September 20, 2021 at 10:33 am
    Photographer Luis Ascui was sprayed directly in the eyes while photographing the rally on Saturday afternoon despite identifying himself as a media representative.

    Avi has an interview with him, Luis seems to be a genuinely decent bloke. Doesn’t seem to have seen this sort of targeting in his professional career.

    He seems to have been right on the spot when the old lady was clobbered, and got his capsicum spray before she did (her left leg had still not hit the ground when he was sprayed).

    Deliberate action to prevent him recording her spray in the face?


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  73. Pleasingly for 12-15-year-olds, we know that now 20 per cent of 12-15-year-olds have had their first dose of the vaccine,” Ms Berejiklian said.

    That’s how the foul old thing is going to achieve her dubious percentage.

    Through the arms of children.


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  74. There is a strong rumour in Melbourne’s inky circles that The Age will soon announce an end to M-F publication

    The print edition?
    Will it still have an online edition, or will this just be a portal into the Nein News site?


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  75. I’m gathering Tolkien quotes at the minute and this pops up:
    Book that might be of interest …
    J R R TOLKIEN: The Making of a Legend .. Colin Duriez .. Lion Press .. 2012 (paperback)


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  76. Pleasingly for 12-15-year-olds, we know that now 20 per cent of 12-15-year-olds have had their first dose of the vaccine,” Ms Berejiklian said.

    Correction.

    Pleasingly, to save face politically, we know that now 20 percent of 12-15 year olds, who have been unable to give informed consent because they are minors, have had their first dose of a highly experimental substance,” Ms Mengeliklian said.


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  77. In Australia, the two most chilling things said over the past 18 months have come from Gladys.
    Today’s about giving 12-15 years shots.
    And the press conference from 2-3 weeks ago where she said she was excluding unvaccinated people from society.


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  78. “Pleasingly for 12-15-year-olds, we know that now 20 per cent of 12-15-year-olds have had their first dose of the vaccine,” Ms Berejiklian said.

    The chance of 12-15 year olds getting seriously sick let alone dying from the COOF is near ZERO. I’m expecting ambulance chasing lawyers on TV shortly:

    Have your loved ones had a bad reaction to the Vaccine? Have they died? Don’t wait … Call AMBOLAW666 and our medical law experts can get you the compensation you deserve!


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  79. Pleasingly, to save face politically, we know that now 20 percent of 12-15 year olds, who have been unable to give informed consent because they are minors, have had their first dose of a highly experimental substance,” Ms Mengeliklian said.

    Hang on, this was done without their parent’s knowledge?


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  80. Statistically, the odds of being alive at this time and living in the city that appears to be ground zero for the beta-test of the globalists “new COVID normal” are almost incalculable.
    But here we are.


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  81. Covid has been a real epidemic with many different signs, symptoms, viral profile and treatment requirements, which has hit the aged in particular. It is not the ‘flu although it has probably supplanted the ‘flu as a killer of the aged and comorbid. It gets them hard and quick, before ‘flu does, because there is a level of herd immunity to ‘flu. Some Covid cases have also been ‘flu cases, of that I have no doubt. However, ‘flu has also been curtailed dur Covid outbreaks as ‘flu vaxxes have gone through the roof, while the sanitation and isolation measures introduced for Covid have also affected the transfer of influenza.

    Lizzie,

    I am not an epidemiologist nor medically trained nor scientifically trained.

    But I am a trained practical Internal Auditor across swathes.

    Kindly check your above quoted statement for inconsistencies and get back to me.


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  82. Another factoid from the Covid = Flu files (in terms of age related risk, anyway)

    From the 2019 Influenza Season Summary:

    Deaths reported in notified cases to the NNDSS have largely been in older adults. The median age of
    deaths reported in notified cases was 86 years (range: 1 to 106 years), with 87% of deaths reported in
    people aged 65 years and older.



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  83. Couldn’t find it in my messenger timeline Señor.
    Thought I’d shared it with family.
    Herald Sun article was 20 August 2020 vid went up on socials a couple of days later.


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  84. rickwsays:
    September 20, 2021 at 10:33 am
    Photographer Luis Ascui was sprayed directly in the eyes while photographing the rally on Saturday afternoon despite identifying himself as a media representative.

    Avi has an interview with him, Luis seems to be a genuinely decent bloke. Doesn’t seem to have seen this sort of targeting in his professional career.

    Yep, and he mentioned that what’s happening here is WORSE than what he experienced in South American Thugocracies.


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  85. At work today, ABC on the TV.

    Wall to wall covid propaganda.

    Most of it presented by smarmy karens with that irritating vocal cadence that newsreaders seem to have adopted to impart gravitas.


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  86. How have been exposed? This is for Britain:
    “Based on antibody testing of blood donors, 97.7% of the adult population now have antibodies to COVID-19 from either infection or vaccination compared to 18.1% that have antibodies from infection alone.”
    So why is there a wave of infections?


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  87. It’s driving me crazy listening to the crap the ABC is pumping out.

    They are simply pushing the government propaganda.

    No critical analysis or alternative views.

    They’re reporting model projections as if they are hard facts.


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  88. Arky – Easy. Introduce a breeding pair of polar bears and some bees. All bears love honey, so they’ll farm the bees and penguins in colonies would be ‘way easier to catch than seals.

    I actually think sometime in the future an ecological terrorist will indeed do that: take polar bears to Antarctica. It seems inevitable, since their name would be in history books forever.


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  89. Dot serious question. So does that amendment to the act mean if requested the ADF could be called out for riot control?

    I’d say it would be so Scummo could bring in UN Peace Keepers (CCP troops) when the “civil disobedience” gets too bad.

    After all, he did say Australia will be a very different country by Christmas


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  90. So why is there a wave of infections?

    Because the vaccines have been loaded up with the live virus to the absolute maximum level and those vaccinated shed the virus.


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  91. he [Shane Patton] flagged the use of specialised riot police.

    The specially equipped police have lightweight armour, helmets, riot shields and weapons including rapid-fire guns that shoot non-lethal pellets or capsicum rounds; stinger grenades rolled along the ground that explode, releasing nine rubber projectiles, waist-high to five metres; and flash-bang grenades. Up to 300 police have been trained to use the weapons.

    I’m not aware of this type of kit being deployed against protesting civilians other than in the very shittiest shitholes.

    If I were an Anarchist, bent on destroying the joint, I would be salivating – wetting myself – at the prospect of leveraging a Chief Constable, acting as agent/enforcer for a flailing politician, into providing the video violence needed to ‘prove’ Australia is a failed State.

    The World is currently watching Australia in puzzled amazement. A spot of the old state-on-citizen ultraviolence would be remarked in all the right places.


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  92. Two good submarine decisions but we need to acquire nuclears now

    By Top Ender

    The Australian federal government has made two good decisions on our submarine future. Continuing the ridiculous contract with the French for 12 diesel-electric boats would have been on parallel with our foolishness in not ordering Spitfires for our defence in 1940. The Morrison government followed their brave moment with deciding on nuclear submarines as an alternative – an excellent idea. But that won’t get us out of our present predicament. What we need is a submarine weapons system right now – and that’s possible.

    We have had a flawed defence acquisition attitude for decades in this country. Government after government wants to build too many defence platforms here. We can do it, but only with minor weapons systems such as patrol boats. Inevitably major builds run late and over-budget. We also insist on fiddling with the design. This would be disastrous in the case of future nuclear submarines. We need to simply copy what is already in the water and successful.

    But even though we seem to be finally manning up to the hard questions, building our own boats to appear in 10 years is not good enough. We are facing a period of heightened threats and we need weapons systems now, not then. Buying the Virginia-class off the USA straight away would be the best decision, but that might not be possible as the USN is acquiring all so far produced. Fortunately there is another solution. The United States Navy has a number of other nuclear attack boats in storage. We should lease or buy six now.

    The Los Angeles nuclear fleet of the USN have been in service for many years, and several are laid up – in fact, some of the original ones are being scrapped. They use the preferred weapons systems of our Navy, the Tomahawk and Harpoon missiles, and Mark 48 torpedo. We’re probably going to build the more capable Virginia-class, their replacement. But the Los Angeles class are gradually being retired, and would provide both an excellent training platform for nuclear vessels, and more importantly, an immediate and effective deterrent to any would-be enemies.

    One obstacle any nay-sayers would immediately bring up is the fact that the Los Angeles are bigger than our present Collins and need a larger crew: 129 compared to 58. That can be remedied by advertising – with the relevant country’s permission – for submariners from the UK and the USA. The service could be continuous to transition into the boats the RAN would eventually acquire from the build here. In fact the naval personnel transitioning from these overseas navies would be also excellent trainers for our own personnel who would need to be brought up to speed on how to operate a nuclear power plant.

    We need nuclear submarines mainly for their range and endurance. In both these areas they are superior to diesel-electric boats. A nuclear can travel immense distances without surfacing, and once on station the submarine can stay there until its food runs out, again without surfacing. Diesel-electrics are driven to the surface regularly as their batteries become depleted, so they can run their diesel to recharge. This can be done by a snorkel, but anywhere near the surface makes the submarine more likely to be detected – and therefore attacked.

    If we want to deter an aggressor nation over the next few years we need this ability – to stay on station indefinitely – straightaway, not in a decade, or even in five years, which might incidentally be possible. (The Royal Navy’s HMS Dreadnought was launched in 1960, five years after the US Navy’s first nuclear, USS Nautilus – in other words from concept to reality in half a decade.)

    And putting such a formidable platform into the sea near any aggressor is a move designed to lessen war, not increase it. One of the best aspects of the submarine concept is that the enemy does not know where it is once it’s at sea – unless of course it’s detected – another reason why we should have the almost undetectable nuclears as opposed to frequently re-fuelling diesel-electrics.

    We could, and should, have several nuclear boats operating out of Perth within a year, not 10. A vessel leaving port starts a huge circle of probability going the moment it submerges. If you have a concept of the boat’s underwater speed you can calculate the size of that circle – somewhere within it is the submarine. As the hours go by the circle gets bigger, and soon it impacts where your own vessels are, perhaps on their way to attack Australia. Thus the mere presence of a submarine forces you to convey your more vulnerable freighters, tankers, and troopships, slowing your assault down. A submarine can launch covert swimmers and lay mines against your harbours too, while submerged, and thus you have to guard against those possibilities as well. If you can’t take these measures properly then your whole invasion process grinds to a halt until you can. Thus a submarine off your coast is an extremely effective deterrence – even though it hasn’t fired a shot.

    Deploying the Collins-boats to carry out effective deterrence operations off distant enemy coasts is hazardous and inefficient. Even though they are a good platform, and operated by extremely capable people, they must recharge their batteries near the surface. And once their diesel supply reaches the level where they only have enough to get home or to a tanker, then they must leave. It varies with the speeds used, but a diesel boat’s endurance is measured only in weeks. A nuclear boat’s is in years, and of course it has never surfaced in its entire patrol.

    There is another decision the government can make straight away. The names of the Collins-class should be carried on into our future nuclear boats. They are all named after heroes of the Navy from World War II. The only sailor – rather than an officer – of the six, Teddy Sheean, has just been awarded the Navy’s only Victoria Cross. These names should live forever. That’s one easy decision to make. Slightly harder but just as logical would be to arm our Navy with the best weapons they can get, and do it now – acquire working nuclear submarines from the USA immediately.

    -o-o-O-o-o-

    Top Ender served as a naval intelligence officer in the RAN. He is a military historian whose latest work is Teddy Sheean VC.


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  93. Because the vaccines have been loaded up with the live virus to the absolute maximum level and those vaccinated shed the virus.

    If that’s the case, then I should have had the thing. The Beloved was vaccinated in May, second shot in August. If he’s shedding live virus, that is. Being the most infectious virus evah!

    Maybe I have natural immunity! 😀


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  94. twostixsays:
    September 20, 2021 at 10:34 am
    […]
    This is the very core of the revolution that is happening: the public space, the area outside of your front gate is being declared by the government as its personal private property, a sort of neo-feudal crownland situation, and you, the public must have permission to enter its property
    […]
    They took that compliance as people accepting the new proposition that going out in public is a right we don’t want anymore, and are happy to accept it is a ‘privilege’.

    Everything that’s followed since has been to institute the system to monitor and administer this new ‘privilege’.[…]

    You remind me that what’s been taken from us is what I’m ‘homesick’ for.
    This Australia that I grew up in –

    Spectrum – I’ll Be Gone
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KB75exxkjDc

    When this came out I was a skinny little pre-teen, already out on my own from dawn to dusk on my horse, covering & loving this glorious country.

    Before I was out of my mid-teens I’d ridden, trained, hitch-hiked & worked across a great portion of Australia, SAFELY on my own.

    Now you can’t even ride over the Victorian Highlands except in the wet seasons because most of the water catchments are cyclone fenced off.


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  95. I wonder at the ammunition that is available to the police. I mean, what is a ‘plastic’ bullet, these days, how big are they, how plastic, and how many can be fired, and so on. And what is in the ‘pepper’ spray. Can’t be good for the environment.


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  96. More harassment of Aussie Cossack
    “Random” stop await reinforcements, random bretho, then “random” drug test.
    How he keeps his cool is beyond me

    We are, actually, paying plod to amuse themselves like this .. no wonder crime is always on the increase .. umpteen plod to stop a car for no reason except who it belongs too ……..!


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  97. Lizzie , the way you tried to justify that double jabbed swimmer catching covid was pathetic.
    Go and read what you actually wrote.
    The term clutching at straws comes to mind, as I know you are now getting tired.
    You are getting tired because the reality is not what you wanted to, or have been led to believe.

    You’ll go down with mental exhaustion trying to keep up the leaps of logic.
    I give you a lot more credit than I give people like notaclue, who through sheer stubbornness will call a pig a cow and make herself believe it to be true, rather than admit she was taken in.

    I wish all the best for you, and I do think that once you admit to yourself that you are interpreting what you want to be reality as reality, but as you know, (I know you well enough), it’s getting tiring for you in the face of overwhelming evidence.
    It may suprise you to know I think highly of people here enough to argue with them, as the one thing they cannot take, is our sanity. Our minds.
    The reality is depressing, that is true, but happiness can be found in knowing you are sane, you are living in evil, terrible times, and you know and communicate with other sane people.
    The facts are now pouring in.
    Hospitals are filling with the jabbed.
    All across the world.
    The unjabbed will also meet a terrible fate, probably in a covid concentration camp, and probably sooner than you’ll die from the little cold you catch that the genetic modifying death jab you took, turns it into a deadly strain of virus.
    So I’m not being smug by a long shot.
    I am sane, and a realist.
    Looking at the evidence, without fighting this, this is where we stand.
    The New Normal isn’t a place 7 billion will inhabit.
    3 or 4 million will probably be about the number the elites will need to keep them in the manner they have become accustomed.


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  98. 24. This Schedule inserts a new provision in the Act to give ADF members, other defence personnel and foreign armed forces immunity from civil and criminal suit in relation to actions done in good faith performance of their duties, where the duties are in relation to certain assistance provided in the context of a natural disaster or other emergency.

    Without definition of “other emergency” it could be anything…

    Garage nazis
    Old ladies in the street.
    Gingers.


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  99. calli says:
    September 20, 2021 at 11:40 am
    Pleasingly for 12-15-year-olds, we know that now 20 per cent of 12-15-year-olds have had their first dose of the vaccine,” Ms Berejiklian said.
    That’s how the foul old thing is going to achieve her dubious percentage.

    Through the arms of children.

    There is a reason why some women are childless and it has nothing to do with not being able to have children. These women should never be in a position to make decisions about anyone else’s children.


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  100. Covid has been a real epidemic with many different signs, symptoms, viral profile and treatment requirements, which has hit the aged in particular. It is not the ‘flu although it has probably supplanted the ‘flu as a killer of the aged and comorbid. It gets them hard and quick, before ‘flu does, because there is a level of herd immunity to ‘flu. Some Covid cases have also been ‘flu cases, of that I have no doubt. However, ‘flu has also been curtailed dur Covid outbreaks as ‘flu vaxxes have gone through the roof, while the sanitation and isolation measures introduced for Covid have also affected the transfer of influenza.

    Flying Pigs, Auditor General, asks me to check the above for ‘inconsistencies’.

    Don’t be ridiculous. All of the above statements may apply in given circumstances:

    1. Covid is a recognisable viral disease with many ‘flu like symptoms etc.
    2. It is highly contagious, rather like ‘flu.
    3. Exposed susceptible people get Covid more readily than the ‘flu likely due to no immunity.
    4. There is less ‘flu around in general due to Covid measures.
    5. Some people with Covid can also get the ‘flu.
    6. Some administrators may elide between ‘flu and Covid to get more funding.

    Put your thinking cap on, Auditor.

    I don’t expect to be popular here, but I call a spade a spade when it is a spade as I see it.


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  101. The specially equipped police have lightweight armour, helmets, riot shields and weapons including rapid-fire guns that shoot non-lethal pellets or capsicum rounds; stinger grenades rolled along the ground that explode, releasing nine rubber projectiles, waist-high to five metres; and flash-bang grenades. Up to 300 police have been trained to use the weapons.

    Liberty Victoria has called this a proportionate response .

    Their only concern is that such measures will become entrenched and be used against legitimate protestors in the future.

    Actually I made that up. But it’s almost for word for word what they’ve been saying about Vikpol’s actions against citizens in their press releases thus far.

    They’re quite happy for Andrews to set the police onto their political enemies. Makes you wonder what sort of “liberty” they espouse.


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  102. I have developed a love interest for Bikies.
    I was down at the Cathedral of St Dan when the Bois roared up on their Harleys, zoomed around for a while, parked wherever they chose and rolled into Dan’s. No mask, no flashy flashy at the spy code, just in there.
    Nobody said a word.
    They stuck their rum and whiskey in their jackets and roared off.
    Heroes. That is genuine ‘fuck you democracy’ right there.


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  103. John Setka out the front of the CFMEUE with his megaphone in hand.

    “Stop calling Dan my mate!
    I’ve never met the bloke.”

    The workers are not happy Dan.
    Look out. They might dare to struggle and dare to win.


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  104. Covid, by the way, is SARS-Cov 2. SARS is Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome. This is often a presenting aspect of Covid but the way in which Covid affects the body is not like ‘flu, it is like SARS, it entails the destruction of the Alveoli of the lungs due to blood clotting. With ‘flu, as I understand it, you drown in your own pneumonic fluids. The ‘flu virus also weakens you generally as all viruses can do. But additionally, infection with SARS-Cov 2 can cause clotting damage in many other body systems; hence it is fundamentally a contagious vascular disease, which is not the way ‘flu presents. To call it a ‘flu is something of a misnomer.

    This was quite apparent by the end of 2020 as case histories became studied.


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  105. My hope is that we NEVER get Covid transforming in some recombinant fashion with SARS or ME-SARS or in ways similar to them into the nightmare of mortality that these two prior diseases had.

    If I have to have regular Covid update jabs as well as ‘flu ones, then I will have them.
    I’d prefer a non mRNA vaxx to any of the present ones.

    I do wonder why it is not possible for Scomo to do a deal with Indonesia and swap some of our heaps of spare AZ for some Sinovax which they mostly have and offer that to people who would prefer a different vaxx on religious grounds. The protection level is below 50% but it would be better than nothing. Depending of whether the Sinovax mode of production meets religious requirements for non-fetal cell usage though. Same thing re the Russian vaxx. Both are simple attenuated-form of the virus vaxxes, so I believe.


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  106. Depending of whether the Sinovax mode of production meets religious requirements for non-fetal cell usage

    ..
    I don’t see the use in not using aborted tissue if you’re going to buy from a country run by a party who dissect people alive for organ transplants. But that would also put everything in Bunnings out of bounds.


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  107. Tom,
    Leak, Knight and Blower, today. The Bigger Fish and The Yellow Submarine are standouts. While Leak has the truth of it – can’t read/write/do sums, and we all know why.

    On the o/s ones, it’s surprising how often they appear lame – I realise that a cartoonist can’t produce a gem every day. But, having said that, Leak, Knight and Warren are all pretty good at doing so. Much of what the Brits and the Yanks do seem pedestrian to me. Though, usually I do like Ramirez (and that girl cartoonist from the US – can’t think of her name at the minute).


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  108. It’s a beautiful sight to see the rank and file turn on the compliant leadership.
    Nobody bothered to ask the wukkas if being pushed around by TaliDan was OK.


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  109. Indolent:

    He said police would look to charge some of Saturday’s arrested demonstrators with affray, which carries a maximum jail term of five years. They will also look at laying the charge of violent disorder under the Crimes Act. This offence occurs when six or more people riot causing injury and/or damage to property. The penalty is up to 10 years in jail.

    Andrews seems to be calling for a revolution.

    Andrews egomania won’t allow him to back down, and we won’t let him get away with it.


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  110. Twostix:

    Those AR-15’s beckon, they call to these small souled bugmen in their dreams, glistening black, oh god how badly they want to unleash them on the filth.

    If the PORT members show anything like the degree of restraint they showed over the weekend, then someone with a bag of Double Bungers is going to trigger a disaster.


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  111. Bar Beach Swimmersays:
    September 20, 2021 at 2:36 pm
    Boambee Johnsays:
    September 20, 2021 at 8:32 am

    BJ, I’ve put up a thumbs up, if you can’t see!

    Thank you!


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  112. Gladys today.
    Absolutely chilling.

    Fulfilling their elected role of representing their constituents and working for their welfare is not just out of date, it’s been completely abrogated. Quite simply, we are under attack by the governments we elected. Gladys would have fit right in to the Third Reich. She has that sort of mindset.


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  113. The evidence of fraud in the Trump election is now over the Moon:

    What’s Going On? Arizona Recently Processed 673,000 Voter Identities with the Social Security Administration – 58% Had NO MATCH FOUND

    As I’ve said though the problem is, is there any method of recalling or otherwise rectifying the fraudulent old bastard POTUS now dribbling and sniffing in the WH? A good essay on possible legal avenues to turf him out is here:

    https://scholarship.law.duke.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1576&context=dlj

    Basically a ruling, including an election result, can be overturned if the ruling/result was obtained by fraud. The issue is though the demorats will not accept any such decision even if a court was brave enough to decide it and with the rats controlling both houses, fraudulently, I can’t see anypeaceful way of obtaining justice.


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  114. Dot:
    “These items amend the delegation power in section 120A of the Act. New subsection 123AA(4) provides for the Secretary or the ADF to authorize a Commonwealth employee or member of a foreign armed force to provide relevant assistance under new subsection 123AA(1). This has the effect of these individuals becoming a ‘protected person’ for the purposes of subsection 123AA(1).”

    Holy shit.
    This cannot be serious.
    Can it?

    And I got shit on for merely suggesting this scenario needed investigating last year…


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  115. Christian Porter was being groomed as a future State Premier of Western Australia, but chose to make the move to Federal politics..

    He’s not the Messiah, he’s a very naughty boy. The ALPBC staff soviet wins again. Who needs a justice system if you have a publicly funded broadcaster?


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  116. rickw:

    These factors may have influenced the number of flu cases. But bringing the flu cases to virtually zero? Seriously.

    It may have for the first couple of months, people would have backslid after that.
    The excuse is plausible, but not very likely.


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  117. You could hardly be more of the “political class” than Christian Porter.
    Ambition in spades, but what does he believe in other than himself?

    Roger – nailed it. A big part of his problems. Hard not to have some sympathy for him though.


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  118. Never met or know of a good military lawyer.

    If you are a good lawyer the closest you come to the military is driving past the SAS barracks on the way to your place in Cottesloe.


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  119. Hairdressers are an exception so far; I wouldn’t have expected them to be a bastion of liberty but there it is. Good for them!

    Hairdressers are the quintessential small business. It is no surprise they have adopted this position. They would be no friend of Big Government/Big Business. Yep, good on ‘em.


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  120. Don’t confuse fitness with immune response. Professional athletes spend a lot of time running their bodies bloody hard.

    At her age the problem is far more likely to be the vaccine than the virus.


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