Open Thread – Weekend 25 Sept 2021


Snow Storm: Hannibal and his Army Crossing the Alps, Joseph Mallord William Turner, 1812

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Makka
Makka
September 25, 2021 10:13 am

Bloomberg reported officials as saying that capital needed to me moved from housing to “productive” industry.

I suspect that Evergrande is only one of the residents at the cockroach hotel.

Cardimona
Cardimona
September 25, 2021 10:15 am

A couple of observations from the RSBN livestream of the Maricopa County forensic election audit.
The several different mechanisms of election fraud long discussed here* have been verified.
The fraud was more than required to change the election results.
Certain individuals will be referred to law enforcement authorities.
Arizona’s election laws will need to be reformed.
Arizona’s cyber-security will need to be upgraded

*includes previous and alternate Cats.

Dot
Dot
September 25, 2021 10:16 am

Australia can prevent a Chinese war of aggression by acquiring nuclear weapons.

We only need a handful of tens of W-88s.

It could devastate their largest cities, military and utility assets. Naval fleets wiped. Army Corps wiped.

At a very low cost, it could deter the most destructive war in human history – hopefully it never happens.

Joe Biden won’t save us.

“Peace is our mission”

Cardimona
Cardimona
September 25, 2021 10:18 am

On Telegram, DJT says

It is not even believable the dishonesty of the Fake News Media on the Arizona Audit results, which shows incomprehensible Fraud at an Election Changing level, many times more votes than is needed. The Fake News Media refuses to write the facts, thereby being complicit in the Crime of the Century. They are so dishonest, but Patriots know the truth! Arizona must immediately decertify their 2020 Presidential Election Results.

And…

Massive fraud was found in the Arizona Forensic Audit, sometimes referred to as “Fraudit.” The numbers are Election Changing!

And…

I will be discussing the winning results of the Arizona Forensic Audit, which will show 44,000 possibly illegal ballots cast, tomorrow at the Great State of Georgia rally, which will be packed!

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 25, 2021 10:19 am

Dover, an older but not forgotten case of police brutality.

https://twitter.com/K_for_rats/status/1441380783676030983?s=20

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
September 25, 2021 10:20 am

Australian State Police Are The Enemy Of The People.

apparently we are all citizens now.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 25, 2021 10:20 am

We only need a handful of tens of W-88s.

Would you like to know more?

Rabz
September 25, 2021 10:22 am

Whether to wear masks, get vaccinated, or travel to other places wherever they want are all deemed issues of “freedom” of choice

Indeed, you fat li’l communist f*ckwit. Because until 18 months ago we nominally existed in “liberal democracies” as opposed to totalitarian shitholes ruled by evil imbeciles like you. We had “freedom of choice”, because we didn’t exist in an ants nest in a pile of dung.

The COVID-19 pandemic has taught Western countries a good lesson. They should reflect thoroughly on the deep-rooted drawbacks of their social and national governance, as well as the need to learn from countries like China.

They have, you fat ugly li’l maggot. And like various other bloviating fascist imbeciles, it won’t end well for them.

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 25, 2021 10:22 am

A billion Ch!nks and crypto currencies. What could go wrong?

cohenite
September 25, 2021 10:22 am

Boy these new freds pop up quick. I’ll repeat this one from the last one:

Winston Smithsays:
September 25, 2021 at 5:03 am
Top Ender:

Heinlein has been gone many a year. I hesitatingly admit to doing an Honours dissertation on his later works about 30 years back. While there are some great SF ideas, there is lots of cringeworthy sex bits. His obsession with nubile females was the least of it.

He lost me with “The Door Into Summer”.
He went seriously weird there – and not in a pleasant way.

It does have Heinlein’s favourite sexual fantasy of using time travel to successfully realise an attraction to an underage girl. Other then that its full of Heinlein’s usual engineering potpourri. Heinlein was a natural story-teller and could make asinine plots totally convincing but his sense of his own mortality and interesting sexuality got the better of him in his later novels. But there is no doubt overall he is maybe the top S-F writer of all time.

Zipster
September 25, 2021 10:23 am

clearly china is preparing for war.

naval build up. nuclear missile build up. relentless technology theft. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist that to see once china considers itself capable of invading taiwan and the world not daring to counter attack due to mutual annihilation it will do so. the countdown is on.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
September 25, 2021 10:24 am

Real Rukshan at Northcote. How long before these scenes start alienating even supportive public pockets…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIvVz0lrzo0

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
September 25, 2021 10:26 am

clearly china is preparing for war

It’s all happening here.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
September 25, 2021 10:28 am

This week’s award for the most egregious lies uttered on the international stage is shared by China lackeys Indonesia & Malaysia, who opined that Australia’s nuclear propelled subs would provoke an arms race.

Translation: Japan is rattling the regional defence cage and unnerving us.

China is starting to shit itself over rising Japanese military assertiveness. Not because they are planning to invade Manchuria, but a Rising Sun Bomb on board a nuclear submarine would be an awkward turd in the China Sea soup bowl.

The droplets are splashing KL and Jakarta.

P
P
September 25, 2021 10:29 am

Presentation of the Maricopa County Election Audit
https://twitter.com/ElectionWiz/status/1441546086640807944

areff
areff
September 25, 2021 10:31 am

A commenter on Instapundit’s post in regard to Victoria taking the world lockdown record. Finally, there’s something to like about the Oils song:

Out where the river broke
The bloodwood and the desert oak
Holden wrecks and boiling diesels
Steam in 45 degrees

The time has come
To say fair’s fair
Our rights are ours
And they don’t care

The time has come
A fact’s a fact
They belong to us
Let’s take them back!

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
September 25, 2021 10:36 am

Rog, surprising the amount of distrust in places like Thailand outside big cities to the Japanese that lingers. I met an old lady about 10 years ago in a rural area who remembers the war as a girl though she did say they never saw many soldiers round there but everyone knows what they did. Mind you the Chinese have done themselves no favours as well recently.

Muddy
Muddy
September 25, 2021 10:37 am

Dot says:
September 25, 2021 at 9:58 am
Hi frens.

An Adam Calhoun reference, Dot? Next you’ll be laying down Tom MacDonald bars.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
September 25, 2021 10:38 am

Saw similar in the Indonesian Archipelago as well.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 25, 2021 10:43 am

And lions too!

Back then the problem was lion mouths, as Paul said.
Today the problem is lyin’ mouths. Lots of them.

johanna
johanna
September 25, 2021 10:45 am

Fair do’s, srr is – shall we say, not so tightly wound – but she does put up some good links.

I am currently listening to the one where Matt somebody (anyone know?) interviews Rukshan Fernando, intrepid and invaluable citizen video journalist, back in March.

Rukshan has a successful wedding video business, and he likes his job – he really enjoys going to weddings. But make no mistake, he is also very smart and perceptive about politics and the media. He is a pleasure to listen to, and this was recorded before his recent elevation to the top table with the likes of Avi and Topher – both of whom he gets on well with. Topher even held his camera for a while to give him a rest at the Shrine of Remembrance demo.

He is of Sri Lankan background, presumably came here young as his accent is very Australian. Really nice bloke.

BTW, this Matt person – I do hope someone knows his name – is an excellent interviewer. In fact, this is the best interview I have heard for years.

Linky.

Bar Beach Swimmer
September 25, 2021 10:46 am

It’s a tough one, in the sense that it requires courage on the part of bishops and church leaders to tell Caesar where to get off

It’s only 1945 if people let it be so.

And on the verse in Romans, on obeying rulers.

Especially in the earliest of times, in Rome, Christianity was a derided and outlawed religion. That’s why Christians met in secret and had secret ways of knowing each other. Essentially, what they were doing – meeting in the catacombs – they were disobeying the laws of Rome.

From Tacitus on the Great Fire in Nero’s reign (via wiki).

But all human efforts, all the lavish gifts of the emperor, and the propitiations of the gods, did not banish the sinister belief that the conflagration was the result of an order. Consequently, to get rid of the report, Nero fastened the guilt and inflicted the most exquisite tortures on a class hated for their abominations, called Christians by the populace. Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus, and a most mischievous superstition, thus checked for the moment, again broke out not only in Judæa, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome, where all things hideous and shameful from every part of the world find their centre and become popular. Accordingly, an arrest was first made of all who pleaded guilty; then, upon their information, an immense multitude was convicted, not so much of the crime of firing the city, as of hatred against mankind

(That was the crime Christians we’re charged with).

(Tacitus then describes the torture of Christians:)

Mockery of every sort was added to their deaths. Covered with the skins of beasts, they were torn by dogs and perished, or were nailed to crosses, or were doomed to the flames and burnt, to serve as a nightly illumination, when daylight had expired. Nero offered his gardens for the spectacle, and was exhibiting a show in the circus, while he mingled with the people in the dress of a charioteer or stood aloft on a car. Hence, even for criminals who deserved extreme and exemplary punishment, there arose a feeling of compassion; for it was not, as it seemed, for the public good, but to glut one man’s cruelty, that they were being destroyed

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tacitus_on_Christ

From the beginning, there is a fine tradition of Christians not obeying the state. The Galatians passage disallowing any difference between the believers would not have been accepted by the Roman authorities- not separating slave/free, male/female, Jew/Gentile would have been anathema to Roman law. But it didn’t stop Christians from refusing to discriminate one from another. So, too, there is no vaccinated/unvaccinated in Christ.

Crossie said up thread that the church is God’s house – not the state’s.

I would add: as communicant members, (all) are the Body of Christ.

Makka
Makka
September 25, 2021 10:46 am

Mind you the Chinese have done themselves no favours as well recently.

The Chinese spread across Asia and in particularly Indonesia have not been well liked for many decades because a) they are the merchant class ie moneyed and b) their religion ie not Izlarmists. They are tolerated but tend to know their place.

They adopt local names and spread the loot around to keep the peace.

Perfidious Albino
Perfidious Albino
September 25, 2021 10:48 am

Can you imagine the screeching and institutional self-flaying if it was vision of Australian soldiers bashing and brutalising civilians like VikPol are in Afghan or somewhere?

That’s possibly one of the more disgusting elements at play here for me. If we do ultimately find ourselves once again in broad sunlit uplands, we need to rub that in the faces of the now silent and/or propagandising every time they have the temerity to open their traps.

johanna
johanna
September 25, 2021 10:48 am

Oh, and BoN, I commented on a remarkable local Peewee over at Adam’s – you might be interested.

Megan
Megan
September 25, 2021 10:48 am

Crossiesays:
September 25, 2021 at 8:40 am
Woolfe says:
September 25, 2021 at 8:21 am
Who would Jesus turn away?

We should ask that question of Gladys whose Christian faith is “very deep” and “very private”. These are her words from the abortion legalisation furore.

If your Christian faith is that deep it has to hide behind a wall of “very private” then it is not true faith at all.

JC
JC
September 25, 2021 10:49 am

Bitcoin has had the shit kicked out of it .. I think, since China said it was banning foreign cyrptos.

It’s fallen 20% since early Sept. FMD.

Dot, and you think we could run a global economy on a “currency” that sways 20% in less than a month.

I still believe cryptos are worth zero. 🙂

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 25, 2021 10:49 am

Zipster

It’s a corrupt, micromanaged totalitarian shithole. This is the model that awaits us with social credit.

The old Soviet system, we will pretend to work, they will pretend to pay us.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 25, 2021 10:51 am

Mongyang.

Heh. Using it.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
September 25, 2021 10:53 am

I think Farnham sang it best.

We have the chance to turn the pages over
We can write what we want to write
We gotta make ends meet, before we get much older
We’re all someone’s daughter
We’re all someone’s son
How long can we look at each other
Down the barrel of a gun?
You’re the voice, try and understand it
Make a noise and make it clear
Oh, whoa
We’re not gonna sit in silence
We’re not gonna live with fear
Oh, whoa
This time, we know we all can stand together
With the power to be powerful
Believing we can make it better
Ooh, we’re all someone’s daughter
We’re all someone’s son
How long can we look at each other
Down the barrel of a gun?

Should be sung in the faces of VicPlod.
Their acts brutality is a direct result of their feelings shame.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 25, 2021 10:54 am

The DHHS in Victoria is dysfunctional and has been for decades.

I see on the FaceBooks that a bunch of Tier 2 exposure sites have popped up in Victoria’s southwest.
Maybe twenty locations in Hamilton, Terang, Camperdown and Warrnambool.
All from a week ago.

JC
JC
September 25, 2021 10:55 am

Perfidious Albino says:
September 25, 2021 at 10:48 am

Can you imagine the screeching and institutional self-flaying if it was vision of Australian soldiers bashing and brutalising civilians like VikPol are in Afghan or somewhere?

I don’t get why this is surprising.

The place began a penal colony and I wouldn’t think the “boss” during those times was that kind and decent.

The Eureka stockade was a good example of the elite’s disgust with the common man.

Now, I’ve always had this in my mind, how governments of all persuasions consider the average dude to be mere fodder.
The property you own is essentially the surface. The government owns the heavens to the core. Mineral rights belong to the state.

We never never had a war of independence. We’ve had dependence.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
September 25, 2021 10:56 am

One S too many there but you get the drift.

Muddy
Muddy
September 25, 2021 10:57 am

Farmer Gez says:
September 25, 2021 at 8:51 am
847 cases in Pyongyang today.

Danpyongyang?

Bar Beach Swimmer
September 25, 2021 10:57 am

FG,
Absolutely!!

Dot
Dot
September 25, 2021 10:58 am

The USD is more volatile than ceyptocurrencies and it is constantly depreciating.

The USD is a shit coin.

Pogria
Pogria
September 25, 2021 10:58 am

As for whether or not the Churches should allow all to worship inside, Father Damian DID NOT discriminate. He did this a hundred years before there was a cure.

JC
JC
September 25, 2021 10:59 am

Dot

You don’t get a 20% move in the greenback in less than a month across everything. Please!

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 25, 2021 11:00 am

If your Christian faith is that deep it has to hide behind a wall of “very private” then it is not true faith at all.

Having it off with a colleague who is an ICAC person-of-interest, and then with her own ICAC lawyer, without apparent church formalization (which used to be called “marriage” until the Left stole the word) is a bit of a tell too.

Muddy
Muddy
September 25, 2021 11:01 am

Perfidious Albino says:
September 25, 2021 at 10:48 am

Can you imagine the screeching and institutional self-flaying if it was vision of Australian soldiers bashing and brutalising civilians like VikPol are in Afghan or somewhere?

I recall the uproar after an allegation that a trooper had kicked a dead body in East Timor.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
September 25, 2021 11:04 am

“If there is a major covid outbreak (or any other serious infectious disease) in your community and there is a chance you have it, would you go out of your way to potentially expose vulnerable people, even if they have been vaccinated, because you also know that those vaccines are never 100% effective and their effectiveness wanes over time.”
*******
Well, since there’s zero difference between vaxxed and unvaxxed when it come to catching and transmitting the virus, that question has zero relevance to whether churches should obey a government edict to shut out the unvaxxed.

Bar Beach Swimmer
September 25, 2021 11:04 am

jupes, on Brand.

Thanks for putting that up. It is the cross pollination of political parties and the media and back again that I think has been the most destructive of the body politic (as well as ex-politicians ending up with influential jobs in academia). We’ve got full disclosure re donations we now need full disclosure of journalists’ affiliation. Maybe there should be no straight move from one to the other. How? I don’t know; better brains than mine need to work on it.

srr
srr
September 25, 2021 11:06 am

I just realised that there are so many sad, empty people who’ve become dependant on the fake lives & personalities they’ve invented for the web, that they’re burned by real people like vampires are burned by sunlight & Holy Water.

For instance, how’s this for an example of one who constantly claims fear of being ‘othered’ for their ethnicity, actually ‘othering’ someone for their ethnicity –

“….clearly you have an unhealthy obsession with Jews…because that’s probably hereditary.”

This is ACTUAL RACIAL VILIFIFATION to ‘justify’ vile lies.

First they lie about me, demand that I couldn’t possibly have Jewish grandchildren I love & worry about in this Jew hating climate, then they deny my heritage and then, bang, they change tack for their attack & go with, ‘it’s in my Ukrainian blood to hate Jews’.

Again, this is an actual, considered and decided upon act of racial vilification and worse still, I already know how many of you will come out to put your support fully behind them & not even letting it cross your mind to even kindly suggest that this time, out of so many vicious lies, they have literally gone too far.

Dot
Dot
September 25, 2021 11:08 am

The USD rising or falling around 15 – 20% per.month happened recently in 2002, 2003, 2007/8 and 2014.

It’s an unstable shit coin with no intrinsic value, no asset backing and without the utility of ceyptocurrencies.

struth
struth
September 25, 2021 11:08 am

To the hysterical.
If the vaccine works, no need to check on who’s entering the church.
If the vaccine doesn’t work, no need to check on who’s entering the church.
TRY TO STAY SANE.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 25, 2021 11:09 am

JC – China has now banned all crypto transactions.

China Declares All Virtual Currency Transactions “Illegal”, Sending Crypto Prices Tumbling

No t allowed to escape from the gulag Chinese people types. It’s Xi’s money, not yours.

(Btw nice Mr Xi also arrested another billionaire yesterday. This is getting to be a habit. I suggest the escape route through Burma billionaire Chinese guys.)

H B Bear
H B Bear
September 25, 2021 11:09 am

JC at 10:55 – unless you have experienced it (which I haven’t), most people have little concept of the relationship between Americans and freedom.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
September 25, 2021 11:10 am
rickw
rickw
September 25, 2021 11:11 am

Konstable!

In Australia this is spelt with a u.

Dot
Dot
September 25, 2021 11:11 am

Now, I’ve always had this in my mind, how governments of all persuasions consider the average dude to be mere fodder.
The property you own is essentially the surface. The government owns the heavens to the core. Mineral rights belong to the state.

We never never had a war of independence. We’ve had dependence.

Yes. Bootlicking by the barrel full as well.

ALLODIAL TITLE IS NON-NEGOTIABLE.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 25, 2021 11:12 am

TRY TO STAY SANE.

Struth – You might like to suggest that to Gladys. It’s her who’s doing this not us.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 25, 2021 11:12 am

Regarding eligibility for church attendance

The last time I went to Mass regularly, with the exceptions of weddings and funerals were in 1987, and that was mandatory anyway so I can’t be classified under any circumstances as a man of faith. In some ways, I’m envious of those who are because I don’t have that ‘fallback’ to rely on. I was going to say ‘safety net’, but I think that’s an even more inaccurate term.

Crossie is right in saying that once the government begins announcing who may or may not go to church, that it stops being God’s and starts being the government’s.

The concept of faith (for those who have that) has supported people through some of the worst times in history for millennia, albeit that faith – much like medical ‘science’ more recently – has also been used as a cloak for ruling classes to achieve their goals.

There’s also (I think) an element of synchronicity in congregations – that is, that the whole is greater than the sum of its parts. If one were to combine that with faith, and the concept that the church is a good thing and assists its adherents in getting through tough times, then it is difficult to see why any government worth its salt, and which is interested in as little dissent as possible would deny its citizens the opportunity to be part of it.

struth
struth
September 25, 2021 11:12 am

I was told I wasn’t allowed to sing “Freedom” By Farnham at the freedom protest because he did not want his song associated with the protestors.
He spat it when he found out they’d used it in a Melbourne protest apparently.

Figures
Figures
September 25, 2021 11:13 am

JC, what are the keys to a viable currency?

Portability. Fungibility. Scarcity.

Gold has the latter but runs into large problems with the first two. Fiat has the first two but is terrible at the latter.

Bitcoin has all three. In spades. And yes it’s true that there are lots of cryptos but that’s no different to saying there’s lots of types of precious metals but gold and silver have been the dominant two for all of history. Some of the other cryptos will have their place but they’ll be minor roles and most will be worth zero. Not because bitcoin is intrinsically better software but because the use of a currency is circular – in order for something to be widely accepted as currency it has to be widely accepted as currency (like why gold and silver have been widely used as currency but platinum never has). Bitcoin is practically there already so all the others will soon be ignored.

struth
struth
September 25, 2021 11:13 am

My comment was a dressed to the hysterical, Bruce.
Not you.

Dot
Dot
September 25, 2021 11:14 am

Winds of Change
I’ve Been Looking fur Freedom

Good alternatives.

Bar Beach Swimmer
September 25, 2021 11:15 am

JC:
The place began a penal colony

JC, it may have started as a penal colony but ultimately it was decided that there would be no difference between the emancipists and the free settlers and nor between the currency lads and lasses and their sterling cousins.

This is a country built on democracy.

rickw
rickw
September 25, 2021 11:16 am

Real Rukshan at Northcote. How long before these scenes start alienating even supportive public pockets…

Police beating the shit out of people in the CBD is a little abstract. (Who’s even been there in the last 12 months?!)

Police beating the shit out of people where you buy your groceries and sit down for a quiet cuppa gets people’s attention.

Great change in strategy. Bring ordinary people face to face with these fascists in their own backyard.

Great

Dot
Dot
September 25, 2021 11:16 am

It’s not the tokens that matter.

It is a new banking system emerging that matters.

Look on ICO Drops. So many people are inventing new payment systems.

Goodbye Woke Big 4, goodbye Woke Payment Processors.

No more gatekeeping or cancel culture.

*You get what you fucking deserve…*

rickw
rickw
September 25, 2021 11:17 am

A spare “Great” there if anyone wants to use it.

struth
struth
September 25, 2021 11:18 am

Dr Ayodele Ezekiel Ogunjobi 18/09/2021 12:17:29 PM

RACGP and Dr Price have become a political force of fascism in the name of “greater good” . Dr Price’ please send out to all RACGP members the evidence that support the so call vaccines and their effectiveness-there is none that meets rigorous criteria of RCT. By definition of vaccine, what we are pushing for does not meet criteria for a vaccine.The PCR test (Covid test) is a farce. Never in my over 30 years of medical career is a PCR test allowed on healthy individuals. It is to be used on sick patients with a tentative diagnosis. PCR raises unnecessary alarm and destruction of livelihood. Asymptomatic individuals posses no risk. If RACGP has any role no, it is to defend GPs, bring hope, advocate for ambulatory care of patients with medications with proven records of safety be allowed to be given to patients and open up our economy. Any medical intervention against the wish of the recipient is against our oath as doctors. Let is not be a fascist but be scientists.

Zipster
September 25, 2021 11:18 am
srr
srr
September 25, 2021 11:20 am

Topher Field
1 hr ·
I’ll be live on http://www.newsmaxtv.com at about 10:05am this morning, telling the world about the descending police state that we are experiencing here in Australia.

Join me there just after 10am today!
_____________________________

I hope someone caught it & that he can post it later because I can’t find how to go back an hour on the Live Site.

rickw
rickw
September 25, 2021 11:22 am

Mongyang.

Heh. Using it.

I like it to!

struth
struth
September 25, 2021 11:23 am

To the compliant.
Lose your job for your country.
Get a fine for your country.
Disobey, for your country.
Refuse the non working , useless …..except if it’s goal is to kill you, non vaccine jab.
Open the fucking door and be free.
Abuse the Karens, for your country.
Do not QR code, for your country.
Get arrested for your country.
And all of that sacrifice is nothing compared to what others have sacrificed, for your country.

Your mind is killing you and your country.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
September 25, 2021 11:25 am

Mein Kampf musical opens: Hitler’s manifesto dramatized for first time
Rob Hyde, Bremen

Saturday September 25 2021, 12.01am BST, The Times

A musical interpretation of Adolf Hitler’s autobiography with cheery pop numbers opened last night in Germany.

The Theater an der Rott in Eggenfelden near Munich, Bavaria, is the first in the country to make a musical out of Mein Kampf (My Struggle), which the Nazi leader wrote in prison in 1924, after his failed coup the year before.

It served as a manifesto for the Nazi party and set out Hitler’s plans for Germany, including the abolition of parliament, advocating the need to seek “living space” by expanding eastwards and that their “international poisoners be exterminated”.

Malte Lachmann, the director, said: “Everyone knows the title of Mein Kampf, but no one knows what’s in it. That’s not only because it wasn’t allowed to be reprinted until 2015, or because of the inhuman content — but also because it’s incredibly badly written.

“Adolf Hitler does not appear on stage as a character. There is merely a a type of narrator and a musician. That’s it. This isn’t about frumpy fräuleins in dirndls and people goose-stepping in SS uniforms. It is us having a serious look at what Hitler’s values were, how he expressed them, and what all this means for us today.

“Instead of just bombarding young Germans with all this historical information of Nazis and death and victims and suffering — information which they have received their whole life, and at school — it makes sense to try to reach out to them on their level.”

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
September 25, 2021 11:27 am

HBB, the Americans that I have worked with, lived their freedom and were all prepared to die for it.
The difference is that Ostrayans want to live it, but have no interest in fighting for it.

Bar Beach Swimmer
September 25, 2021 11:28 am

Danpyongyang

I prefer Muddy’s; with the other one it’s not clear enough who are the mongs. (Didn’t that idiot Sutton calk the demonstrators mongs?).

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 25, 2021 11:28 am

Bitcoin has all three. In spades.

Unfortunately the mining thing has turned out to be a fatal error in its design. So much electricity and hardware is being used for it that national grids are failing, and graphics cards are in short supply. Which is pretty amazing when you think about it.

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
September 25, 2021 11:29 am

Johnny Farnham
Age Of Reason
What about the world around us?
how can we fail to see?
now that our fathers are gone
and we’re left to carry on
what about the age of reason

struth
struth
September 25, 2021 11:31 am
feelthebern
feelthebern
September 25, 2021 11:31 am

An avocado a day keeps the doctor away.

johanna
johanna
September 25, 2021 11:31 am

That Tacitus chap certainly had a turn of phrase.

Many of us will be familiar with this one:

They make it a desert and call it peace.

One of the joys of studying Latin was that great writing can be discerned by even schoolkids like I was. Both Tacitus and Cicero wrote the Latin equivalent of Plain English, which is much harder to do than bogging down every sentence with adjectives and adverbs and imprecise meanings (see TheirABC online for numerous examples).

OTOH, towards the end I began to grasp how poets and satirists used the language as well. As the Romans had a Western mindset, their jokes and poems are still perfectly comprehensible – and the jokes are still funny.

Tacitus and Cicero’s critiques of politicians might have been written yesterday.

Cassie of Sydney
September 25, 2021 11:32 am

“feelthebernsays:
September 25, 2021 11:31 am at 11:31 am
An avocado a day keeps the doctor away.”

They’re cheap at the moment too Bern.

Cassie of Sydney
September 25, 2021 11:34 am

“Knuckle Draggersays:
September 25, 2021 at 11:12 am”

Excellent comment KD.

johanna
johanna
September 25, 2021 11:34 am

calli, I’m no theologian (to put it mildly) but my understanding is that the crux of the problem is defining what is legitimately Caesar’s and what it God’s.

If you can sort out that baseline issue, the rest might fall into place.

miltonf
miltonf
September 25, 2021 11:35 am

ussr is a bit nutty but I’d rather have her than the Qld creeps any day.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 25, 2021 11:37 am

The difference is that Ostrayans want to live it, but have no interest in fighting for it.

Inco – I disagree with that having read fairly recently the accounts of the 6th, 7th and 9th Divs in the Middle East in 1940-42.

The guys were very prepared to fight for freedom.

The difference is between fighting for freedom legally and fighting for freedom illegally.

The Left are prepared to do the latter. The Right are not, because of a strong Judaeo-Christian ethos and an adherence to justice and the rule of law.

You will find that if a Ft Sumter event occurs which enables Righties to fight righteously in the US that the Democrats will be obliterated. But the Dems have been extremely careful not to cause a casus belli.

Nelson_Kidd-Players
Nelson_Kidd-Players
September 25, 2021 11:38 am

Does Farnsey even own the song? He didn’t write it, just performed it. He may have part ownership through various arrangements, but when has that stopped spontaneous renditions by the public?

Muddy
Muddy
September 25, 2021 11:39 am

Zipster says:
September 25, 2021 at 10:37 am
Chaos and confusion as drone pilot ARRESTED at Brisbane freedom rally

Just over 11 minutes, but worth being patient and watching the whole thing.

srr
srr
September 25, 2021 11:39 am

Douglas Murray on Relations Between the Sexes
James Delingpole & Douglas Murray | Delingpod Clips

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4pA5EWwwrU

Sep 24, 2021
The James Delingpole Channel
In this video, Douglas explains differences between the sexes and how modern society thinks differently, as well as his feelings on cancel culture.

“Women, they’re great, but they’re also bloody evil.”

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 25, 2021 11:41 am

Avocado & truffle salt.
That’s the breakfast of champions.

Boambee John
Boambee John
September 25, 2021 11:41 am

Farmer Gezsays:
September 25, 2021 at 10:12 am
Fifty one days since TaliDan’s doughnut day and he’s over 800 cases.

Compare the total cases accumulated in NSW for the first fifty one days of Glad’s “out of control” Covid to the Dictator’s “hard & fast” method.

NSW – 2,352
Vic – 11,571

Is Perry the Verry Tedious One still rabbiting on over at Dash Cat about “Gladys, Keeper of the Pyrite Standard”, and making unfavourable comparisons to the brilliance of Dan of the Dead’s fast, hard, LockDan? Or has the evidence become so clear that even he has to acknowledge it?

Cassie of Sydney
September 25, 2021 11:42 am

“feelthebernsays:
September 25, 2021 at 11:41 am
Avocado & truffle salt.
That’s the breakfast of champions.”

On sourdough.

Twostix
Twostix
September 25, 2021 11:43 am

People must not go down the road of “well you let aids ridden junkies into your x, y and z”. Normal healthy people aren’t being accommodated in our own society.

Normal people are normal people. Healthy and regular, perfect equals to ‘vaccinated’ people and their strange biotech injections. We will not be run out of our society to make way for some envisaged bizarre dystopian society where everyone has mandated biotech injections.

Nelson_Kidd-Players
Nelson_Kidd-Players
September 25, 2021 11:43 am

I see where you’re coming from, Bruce, but the Australia of 1942 has been deliberately watered down through the successive waves of migration. The Italians of the They’re A Weird Mob mould made an effort to blend their culture with the Australian, but I’m less sure of the latter waves from the ME and central Africa. Does enough of it remain?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 25, 2021 11:43 am

Jesus wept. He’s gone all pumped up again.

To the compliant.
Lose your job for your country.

You first. Oh, wait. You have a job. Or jobs. Or, lose it and immediately get another, better one with twice the pay, like the story that was told once and then died an extremely quick death.

Get a fine for your country.

You first. From George Street.

Refuse the non working , useless …..except if it’s goal is to kill you, non vaccine jab.

Stop telling people what to do.

Abuse the Karens, for your country.
Do not QR code, for your country.

That’s a given. Doesn’t need to be suggested. Nobody I know QR codes anything. Preaching to the choir.

Get arrested for your country.
And all of that sacrifice is nothing compared to what others have sacrificed, for your country.

Take that fucking slouch hat off, and stop handing out white feathers* from the safety of your couch. You couldn’t bring yourself to ‘get arrested’ during your last episode ten years ago – in fact, you fanged off as quickly as you could from jacks with broomsticks.

When, and only when, you are leading the charge and breaking the VicJack Inc lines in Richmond, you will have credibility on this subject. Not from the security of regional Queensland, and especially not when you’re not doing in your own capital what you demand of others in theirs.

The protests are righteous, and their cause is just. I will assert they can do without peanuts being thrown at them from above.

*h/t Leigh Lowe, from another blog and another time.

Muddy
Muddy
September 25, 2021 11:46 am

Mongdanpyongyang?

That’s a killer word for Scrabble!

srr
srr
September 25, 2021 11:46 am

What We Are Doing to Old People?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXOX64-PY4Q

Sep 24, 2021
Discernable
Let’s talk about what we are doing to old people.
This is a segment from the Season 5 Finale of The People’s Project with Andrew Bogut:
https://youtu.be/bCg2vNti3ec

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 25, 2021 11:47 am

Real Rukshan at Northcote. How long before these scenes start alienating even supportive public pockets…

Well, yes.
A little grey-haired lady on the news last night:-
“Well, I think the reaction is excessive, really.”

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
September 25, 2021 11:49 am

Inco – I disagree

My great uncles were at Tobruk and El Alamein.
Tough critters.

Dot
Dot
September 25, 2021 11:49 am

Unfortunately the mining thing has turned out to be a fatal error in its design. So much electricity and hardware is being used for it that national grids are failing, and graphics cards are in short supply. Which is pretty amazing when you think about it.

I didn’t mean to upvote this silly green pap.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 25, 2021 11:49 am

Johanna – I’ve only read the English translations of Tacitus, but one of the fun things was to see the difference in tone between the first and the second book. The first was all bright-eyed Herodotus-ish history-is-fun stuff. The second was much more cynical and disgusted with the powers-that-be. Quite dark. He also really really didn’t like Tiberius, probably with good cause.

srr
srr
September 25, 2021 11:50 am

Season 5 Finale of The People’s Project: The Silence is Deafening with Andrew Bogut

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCg2vNti3ec&t=0s

Premiered Sep 10, 2021
Discernable
In Episode 9 (Season 5 Finale) of The People’s Project:

1. Bogut goes on a rant and starts a fire for the working class
2. The elite cement their privileged place in society
3. Influencers get paid to support government lockdowns
4. Reversing the onus of lockdowns – isolate the sick, free everyone else

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 25, 2021 11:50 am

Churches that enforce government policy written by the unelected are no longer churches.

They are an arm of bureaucracy.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 25, 2021 11:50 am

struthsays:

September 25, 2021 at 11:23 am

To the compliant.
Lose your job for your country.
Get a fine for your country.
Disobey, for your country.

After you, champ.

Dot
Dot
September 25, 2021 11:53 am

JC

It was lost overleaf but in 2002, 2003, 2007/8 and 2014 the USD was about as volatile as you are bemoaning BTC for being.

The new cryptocurrency payments platforms can end the wokist banks & credit card companies.

Which is bloody brilliant.

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
September 25, 2021 11:54 am

I see on the FaceBooks that a bunch of Tier 2 exposure sites have popped up in Victoria’s southwest.
Maybe twenty locations in Hamilton, Terang, Camperdown and Warrnambool.
All from a week ago.

It would not make me unhappy to see continued natural spread of Tier 2 locations all across the nation. Roll it out, let the chips fall where they may. Soon. Then we might have a closer to normal Christmas than we are headed for.

jupes
jupes
September 25, 2021 11:55 am

Inco – I disagree with that having read fairly recently the accounts of the 6th, 7th and 9th Divs in the Middle East in 1940-42.

The guys were very prepared to fight for freedom.

Different Australia back then. Different people.

Dot
Dot
September 25, 2021 11:55 am

We need the call and chat logs of the CGHOs, Premiers, Ministers, national cabinet, TGA, AHPRA, health execs, police commissioners, pro lockdown influencers, etc.

It will be glorious.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 25, 2021 11:55 am

To the compliant.
Lose your job for your country.
Get a fine for your country.
Disobey, for your country.

What country?
Why?
Where will you be?

Zipster
September 25, 2021 11:56 am

Avocado & truffle salt.
That’s the breakfast of champions.

I do salt and pepper never tried truffle salt, will have to give it a go

Dot
Dot
September 25, 2021 11:57 am

Bern, JC.

Check your email. I think we can make a Motza this Christmas.

The public want Tiger Rocks.

JMH
JMH
September 25, 2021 11:57 am

Luna Park today at 12 noon (allegedly!)

Twostix
Twostix
September 25, 2021 11:57 am

In Marxism a dictatorship of the proletariat is a necessary precondition for the final stage of communism, what does a dictatorship of the comfortable office dwelling middle-class bring?

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 25, 2021 11:58 am

It will be glorious.

That kind of talk gives me a mighty erection.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
September 25, 2021 11:58 am

Dot says: September 25, 2021 at 11:53 am

Dot Johnson is right.
Bitcoin is a winner. (at least for my offspring )

Muddy
Muddy
September 25, 2021 11:58 am

This might be repetitious, but again, it’s worth watching the whole 10+ minutes.

Interviews with Western Sydney shoppers.

Rebel News, Avi, Rukshan, Topher, etc. are doing an awesome job. I don’t want to call them ‘journalists’ though, because that’s now an insult.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 25, 2021 11:59 am

OMG Dot.
Just skimmed it.
We’ll be rich, rich I tells ya !

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
September 25, 2021 12:01 pm

The property you own is essentially the surface. The government owns the heavens to the core. Mineral rights belong to the state.

In Queensland apparently the first 6 ft is yours and not the minerals there. You apply to the government for a lease to mine said minerals and sell them but the Government collects royalties. Then regulates the bejesus out of you so the only solution is to feather the exploration reports till it attracts the attention of a bigger fish. Lot of it going on now with coal prices peaking.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 25, 2021 12:01 pm

I didn’t mean to upvote this silly green pap.

Not green pap Dot.

Collapsing electricity grids in places like Iran and China for the sake of mining a commodity which is designed to increase in price, but which has no actual practical use, is quite dangerous. People need electricity, especially cheap electricity.

If you are undermining real wealth creation you are doing it wrong.

The correct strategy would have been to establish exactly 100 Bitcoin by blockchain, or etc, then let things rip. No mining to increase the supply, however elegant the algorithm is.

Forcing up the price of electricity for production of a fiat currency is harmful to economic activity. Even you should recognize that Dot. Libertarians aren’t entirely clueless, I’ve observed.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 25, 2021 12:02 pm

One day I will retire to a farm to grow truffles & have an army of weimaraners searching for them.
When they’re not attacking the hordes of zombies that will soon inhabit these lands.
The current day will be referred to as “the before times”.

calli
calli
September 25, 2021 12:02 pm

Thanks again, everyone. I have collated all the replies. No names, natch.

It has been good to get replies from the mixed bag, too. Christians, atheists, lapsed and agnostics. What the people outside think of us is just as important as what those inside think. And, of course, for us the most important issue is what the Almighty thinks.

Obviously if I do send it on I may change a word here and there (without sacrificing meaning), or even a phrase, so that a search won’t lead too far down the rabbit hole. I will also type it up into a hard copy – why make doing such a thing easy?

Twostix
Twostix
September 25, 2021 12:03 pm

Actually I forget myself, many office workers are proles. Selling unskilled labour to survive just like factory workers.

calli
calli
September 25, 2021 12:03 pm

BC, Bern.

Before Covid.

Rabz
September 25, 2021 12:04 pm

what does a dictatorship of the comfortable office dwelling middle-class bring?

The preposterous hell we’ve been existing through the last 18 months.

Has there ever been a more laughable and ridiculous bunch of tyrants in human history?

Muddy
Muddy
September 25, 2021 12:05 pm

Knuckle Dragger says:
September 25, 2021 at 11:50 am
Churches […] are an arm of bureaucracy.

We’re gonna need a name for this super-octopus.

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 25, 2021 12:06 pm

Good one calli.
BC before COVID.
DC during COVID.
Nothing comes after that before if governments have their way, COVID will be with us forever.
Maybe we go from BC to FC, forever COVID.

Zipster
September 25, 2021 12:07 pm

In Marxism a dictatorship of the proletariat is a necessary precondition for the final stage of communism, what does a dictatorship of the comfortable office dwelling middle-class bring?

digital fascism 1.0

Makka
Makka
September 25, 2021 12:07 pm

This is a country built on democracy.

And look where it has got us.

A Constitution that isn’t worth the paper it’s written on.

A Federation that was a mirage , that now allows the states to run feral, tramping all over it’s citizens. With a Judiciary that supports the oppression with silence and the 3 monkeys strategies.

This country was built on vested interests, for vested interests. The political elite and their corporate collaborators nowadays fleece us of our hard earned at will. At a whim with no lawful consent these fkers are robbing us daily of our freedoms and imposing ever more stricter conditions and constraints on how we are allowed to go about our PRIVATE daily business. We are being constantly surveiled and monitored. All information reaching the public domain is censored, monitored and spun to suit the elite’s narrative. NO dissent or questioning is allowed unless you want to be lawfared into your grave.

This country ,BBS , has become a Soviet/Communist East European style shithole.

And as JC suggests, there’s only one cure for that , which we have not seen and doubtfully ever will- Revolution. We have never had to fight for this nation on our own soil. Australia was gifted to us and therefore never really appreciated except by those who unfortunately died in its defence and preservation. Outside that illustrious cohort and their families, Australia was never properly appreciated, save being a place from which to reap profit. Freedom is an abstract concept to most these days.

In essence we are fkd. There is nothing I can see anyway on the horizon that can turn the tide.

Makka
Makka
September 25, 2021 12:11 pm

Australia was gifted to us and therefore never really appreciated except by those who unfortunately FOUGHT and died in its defence and preservation.

Cassie of Sydney
September 25, 2021 12:12 pm

“callisays:
September 25, 2021 at 12:03 pm
BC, Bern.

Before Covid.”

I fear there won’t be an AC.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
September 25, 2021 12:13 pm

Tacitus and Cicero’s critiques of politicians might have been written yesterday.

“twas Cicero I think opined that ‘politicians are not born, they are excreted’.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
September 25, 2021 12:15 pm

Real Rukshans attracted the eye of Crikey. Author seems to sit on the fence mostly but with a couple of cheap shots and the comments are evenly divided. Below for those who can stand the bleach based treatment of the eyes of going there:

https://www.crikey.com.au/2021/09/24/real-rukshan-live-stream-melbourne-protest/

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
September 25, 2021 12:15 pm

One day I will retire to a farm to grow truffles & have an army of weimaraners searching for them.

Every real man’s ambition. Someone finally said it.

areff
areff
September 25, 2021 12:19 pm

How’s this: just noticed the three top stories on Quadrant’s homepage all feature thumbnails of animals. In descending order, a bat, a parrot and a swine.

Cassie of Sydney
September 25, 2021 12:20 pm

“Rockdoctorsays:
September 25, 2021 at 12:15 pm
Real Rukshans attracted the eye of Crikey. Author seems to sit on the fence mostly but with a couple of cheap shots and the comments are evenly divided. Below for those who can stand the bleach based treatment of the eyes of going there:”

I don’t have the stomach for it….but are there comments accusing Rukshan of being a far-right Nazi white supremacist?

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
September 25, 2021 12:22 pm

Sorry not thread bombing but this is a good link from Michael Smith News and seems to back up what KD is saying there’s a lot of division and mental stress leave among the thin blue line. One of the comments has an alleged letter from a Vic Pol Snr Const, if true is another example of the culture being fostered at the moment.

https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2021/09/covid-message-from-fmr-nsw-police-officer-alexander-cooney-to-police-in-australia.html#comments

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
September 25, 2021 12:25 pm

I laughed areff. Once. For a second.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 25, 2021 12:25 pm

BC before COVID.
DC during COVID.

“After covid” is better. That way you could have AC/BC, which is nearly as good as the original.

Jailbreak (1976)

All in the name of liberty!

feelthebern
feelthebern
September 25, 2021 12:26 pm

Pedro will have his dorper’s hunting for truffles if he can get them off the lounge room rug.

Zipster
September 25, 2021 12:28 pm

Actually I forget myself, many office workers are proles. Selling unskilled labour to survive just like factory workers.

Anything below the billionaire class are pretty much considered proles these days, bugmen think themselves a separate class but they are nothing but numbered sexless worker drones for their queens.

Bar Beach Swimmer
September 25, 2021 12:32 pm

“twas Cicero I think opined that ‘politicians are not born, they are excreted’

Tinta, he knew his stuff.

Dot
Dot
September 25, 2021 12:34 pm

Forcing up the price of electricity for production of a fiat currency is harmful to economic activity.

I agree.

End the Fed.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
September 25, 2021 12:36 pm

Rockdoctor
I haven’t heard or read anything similar from a vikboar or viksow.
The time for any good cops to take a stand has passed.

“It wazzen us, we’re just the camp cards who were only following orders.”
Come the revolution …

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 25, 2021 12:41 pm

I don’t have the stomach for it….but are there comments accusing Rukshan of being a far-right Nazi white supremacist?

Oh, no.
It’s far more damning that that.
Apparently he … (gasp) … doesn’t have a Degree in J’ism!

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 25, 2021 12:42 pm

End the Fed.

Haha, Dot, out of curiosity just now I put ‘fiat currency’ into DDG.
The first result was the present USD/Euro exchange rate. 😀
Although from the wiki Bitcoin seems actually to be fiduciary money.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
September 25, 2021 12:45 pm

Dot says:
September 25, 2021 at 10:58 am

The USD is more volatile than ceyptocurrencies and it is constantly depreciating.

The USD is a shit coin.

I’ll swap my bitcoin for your USD any day.

I told JC the chunks will wreck it.

They do not give a fk if evergreen goes splat,

as far as a communist cares… so what

the EU are the real shitheads

srr
srr
September 25, 2021 12:50 pm
incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
September 25, 2021 12:51 pm

Q. “Do you or have you ever worked for the Viktoristan government?”
A, “Glug glug glug. Gurgle gurgle.”

Q. “Vonce more I vill ask. Do you or have you ever worked for the Viktoristan government?”

It is a start to chapter one.

rosie
rosie
September 25, 2021 12:59 pm

I’m just going to point out that there is evidence that vaccinated are significantly less likely to catch and pass on covid.

coronavirus infections three times lower in double vaccinated from imperial college news in the UK.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
September 25, 2021 12:59 pm

China is not the enemy…

It is the EU….

full of sanctimonious arseholes.

No Australian Army will ever again protect EU arseholes.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
September 25, 2021 1:01 pm

and that includes England, Ireland and Scotland.

You can go and get fkd.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
September 25, 2021 1:03 pm

Don’t forget the Jesuit judiciary!

Makka
Makka
September 25, 2021 1:03 pm

China is not the enemy…

It is the EU….

Ridiculous. Your enemies are sitting in Canbra and the state capitals. These are the enemies that will thieve your wealth, your future and that of your family.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
September 25, 2021 1:05 pm

were three times less likely than unvaccinated people to test positive for the coronavirus

as usual the heading bears little relationship to the content.
no mention of sick people

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
September 25, 2021 1:05 pm

Rockdoctor says:
September 25, 2021 at 12:22 pm

Brilliant letter. Thank you.

rosie
rosie
September 25, 2021 1:06 pm

Oh my Señor Panzer.
That means #notajournslist is going to trend on twitter!

Winston Smith
September 25, 2021 1:06 pm

Calli:

My own view is that the Church* should not be asking itself who they’re prepared to let in the doors but who they’re prepared to turn away.
*and that means the entire edifice, from individuals within congregations right up to bishops and archbishops

…and that, Calli, is the question.
“Who are you going to turn away, Pope Francis?”

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
September 25, 2021 1:06 pm

Don’t forget the Jesuit judiciary!

your one of the despicable law firm????

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 25, 2021 1:07 pm

Abccess homepage news headline.

Police patrol inner Melbourne as doctors fear “very real” threat of Superspreader protests

Which when clicked on assumes a far more “sensible news’ tone of: Police patrol inner Melbourne ahead of potential anti-lockdown protests

ABCcess have been doing this quite a bit, full propaganda headlines on their news page with a more ‘you can trust us not to be sensationalist” headline at the actual news story.

a cynical person would call it deceptive or agenda pushing shit in place of news.

Evidence, schmevidence:
A larger rally on Tuesday included a number of anti-lockdown and anti-vaccination protesters as well as far-right agitators, who shut down the West Gate Bridge as they marched across the CBD for hours.

“This week has been a really difficult one for Melbourne. The violence is obviously horrible.

“And spitting at healthcare workers, being violent with police, is obviously a devastatingly damaging way to deal with your anger.”

Heres the first story on ‘spitting on a nurse”, and pretty well the only one apart from some people spitting or coughing on cops as they are harassed (2 cases)
A woman has been arrested for assaulting an emergency worker after she allegedly spat on an Adelaide nurse who was walking to work on Tuesday morning.

Police said the 42-year-old woman spat a drink over the nurse, who was wearing blue scrubs, as she walked along Hindley Street in Adelaide’s CBD about 7:30am.

Her alleged attacker, who is homeless, was arrested and charged with assaulting a prescribed emergency worker.

Obviously a far right neo nazi homeless madwoman then??

Why is the head of the AMA pretending there is an epidemic of covid related “spitting on nurses” events?

Slim Cognito
Slim Cognito
September 25, 2021 1:07 pm

graphics cards are in short supply

No one uses graphics cards for BTC mining these days. All ASIC.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
September 25, 2021 1:08 pm

For this latest round of the REACT study, 98,233 people swabbed themselves at home and their samples were analysed by PCR testing. 527 of these were positive, giving an overall prevalence of 0.63%. 254 of these were successfully analysed in the lab to determine their origins, 100% of which were the Delta variant. In the previous round, the figure was just under 80% for Delta with the remaining Alpha.

Swabbing themselves.
Rubbish in – rubbish out.

rosie
rosie
September 25, 2021 1:11 pm

You need to read the actual report to get that layer of detail IC

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
September 25, 2021 1:12 pm

Ridiculous. Your enemies are sitting in Canbra and the state capitals. These are the enemies that will thieve your wealth, your future and that of your family.

and who is propping up the EU???

A mate died recently.. covid they said… fattest Covid victim.

But he was a Dutch hi up in NATO.

fk off.

Makka
Makka
September 25, 2021 1:13 pm

FlyingPigssays:
September 25, 2021 at 1:12 pm

You’re an idiot. Fuck off yourself.

Old bloke
Old bloke
September 25, 2021 1:14 pm

incoherent rambler says:
September 25, 2021 at 12:36 pm

Rockdoctor
I haven’t heard or read anything similar from a vikboar or viksow.
The time for any good cops to take a stand has passed.

“It wazzen us, we’re just the camp cards who were only following orders.”

That could be a legitimate plea if the Vic government is actually using mercenaries to do the bashings which the plod doesn’t want to do.

I don’t know if this is just another conspiracy story, see Australia is using mercenaries in enforce their lockdown

From the Predator Security & Defence website (same symbol).

Muddy
Muddy
September 25, 2021 1:14 pm

From Rosie’s link above.

The study’s analyses of PCR test results also suggest that fully vaccinated people may be less likely than unvaccinated people to pass the virus on to others, due to having a smaller viral load on average and therefore likely shedding less virus.

I’m happy to be corrected, as I have no medical knowledge, but I was under the impression that the PCR tests were only the first stage in diagnosing someone with Covid-19? Even the WHO states that for a confirmed diagnosis, other tests (I forget which, sorry) need to be undertaken. So a PCR test would make a person a SUSPECTED case, which could then go on to become confirmed or negative. Is it just me, or is it somewhat disingenuous to use only suspected cases in statistics such as this?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
September 25, 2021 1:16 pm

No one uses graphics cards for BTC mining these days. All ASIC.

Maybe so.
After Ban, Chinese Bitcoin Miners Are Flooding the Market With GPUs (2 Jul)

vlad redux
vlad redux
September 25, 2021 1:16 pm

This put it pretty well, Calli.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/the-word-from-a-vaccinated-preacher-we-don-t-urge-law-breaking-but-we-cherish-religious-freedom-20210916-p58sfa.html

Jesus was open to outsiders – including women, tax collectors – he was attacked for dining with “sinners”. So, from His example, the whole idea of splitting society into the ins and out is contrary to Christian ethos.

I would incidentally note that a lot of parish churches are open at all sorts of hours; open to all and sundry and sometimes there’s even a priest in the confessional at such times. So the idea that you have them guarded 24/7 on the government’s orders is contrary to existing practice.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
September 25, 2021 1:16 pm

I’m glad to see Australian Government “Police” Forces keep you safe from The China Flu!

YOU ARE ALL GOING TO DIE AT SOME TIME AND SOME WHEN.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
September 25, 2021 1:19 pm

Old bloke September 25, 2021 at 1:14 pm

I saw that same link. It couldn’t be real. Could it? Shirley?

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
September 25, 2021 1:19 pm

Makka says:
September 25, 2021 at 1:13 pm

FlyingPigssays:
September 25, 2021 at 1:12 pm

You’re an idiot. Fuck off yourself.

ok wakka

tell me your problem

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
September 25, 2021 1:20 pm

is it somewhat disingenuous to use only suspected cases in statistics such as this?

YES.

Bushkid
Bushkid
September 25, 2021 1:23 pm

Calli, I’ve been on the road all morning working, just catching up while having a break under a shady tree on a country backroad.
My thoughts on access to worship – for anyone – must never be restricted by a constructed for the purpose “pass” to indicate compliance with a government edict.
I’m Anglican, not a regular church-goer, but definitely Christian in belief.
Denial by a government edict of spiritual comfort in one’s chosen faith is evil.

Muddy
Muddy
September 25, 2021 1:23 pm

Old bloke says:
September 25, 2021 at 1:14 pm

There appears to be a similarity between the symbols, Old Bloke, but that’s not much to go on.

Makka
Makka
September 25, 2021 1:25 pm

There appears to be a similarity between the symbols, Old Bloke, but that’s not much to go on.

Why the symbol at all on the cop armour?

Muddy
Muddy
September 25, 2021 1:27 pm

A comment from the Michael Smith thread that Rockdoctor linked to earlier:

Bad Boy Bubby said…
There have been two viruses. The first one is a medical based virus, we all know about it. The second one is a virus that destroys the fabric of our society. The effects will last for years. No person represents this virus better than the Police Commissioner of NSW. At a time in our history when we have needed compassion and empathy this man through the instrument of the NSW Police Force has systematically declared war on the innocent citizens of this state. You can ditto these comments for Victoria. I am truly at a loss to explain how people with the drive and intellect that it must take to rise to the position of leading major law enforcement organisations like the NSW & Victoria Police Forces can act in such a heartless and vindictive manner that goes to tearing up the community they swear to serve and protect. The most disturbing facet of the last 18 months has been to see how the organisation’s that we all thought would be there to protect us have in fact turned out to be the weapons used against us.

Old bloke
Old bloke
September 25, 2021 1:28 pm

incoherent rambler says:
September 25, 2021 at 1:19 pm

I saw that same link. It couldn’t be real. Could it? Shirley?

I really don’t know Rambler, can the Police Minister or Commissioner just deputise outsiders to take on policing roles?

Muddy
Muddy
September 25, 2021 1:29 pm

Sorry, that block quote was lengthier than I realised.

Zipster
September 25, 2021 1:31 pm

China is not the enemy…

what are you, another chinese stooge? they seem to be everywhere these days defending the homeland against bad words

Dot
Dot
September 25, 2021 1:32 pm

Has Asst Comm. Gravy Warboat said anything stupid lately?

Muddy
Muddy
September 25, 2021 1:34 pm

From Michael Smith again (h/t Rockdoctor), my extract from a letter by an alleged member of the Vic Police Service:

Additionally, I find that the belief that somehow, an individual’s own immunity to a disease, could possibly provide protection against that disease to another individual, when immunity does not prevent contracting or spreading that disease, to be completely devoid of basic logic, reasoning and common sense. This is akin to a belief that another person would benefit from my own personal diet and exercise routines, or a person using sunscreen to prevent someone else for getting sunburned. It’s nonsense. Immunity protects the individual person, no-one else.

Zipster
September 25, 2021 1:35 pm

I don’t know if this is just another conspiracy story, see Australia is using mercenaries in enforce their lockdown

looks fake

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
September 25, 2021 1:35 pm

Asst Comm. Gravy Warboat

Has anyone surveyed the use of the nickname “Tubby” in Ostrayan police forces?

Zipster
September 25, 2021 1:36 pm

it has to be put out there

china is the by far the biggest totalitarian shithole in human history

calli
calli
September 25, 2021 1:38 pm

A lot of activity around St Kilda Botanic Botanic Gardens. Any protest news?

Two helicopters with the tell-tale ball of string flight paths.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
September 25, 2021 1:41 pm

Makka says:
September 25, 2021 at 1:25 pm

There appears to be a similarity between the symbols, Old Bloke, but that’s not much to go on.

Why the symbol at all on the cop armour?

dunno wakka

wat u thinken

Makka
Makka
September 25, 2021 1:42 pm

Protesters are vowing to take to the streets of Melbourne again for a sixth day as authorities attempt to thwart their plans to descend upon the CBD.
It is understood protest organisers are encouraging people to converge at Luna Park, St Kilda, where they are planning to block roads and traffic in the area.
Police are already at the location prepared to deal with anyone not adhering to Public Health Orders.

Baba
Baba
September 25, 2021 1:42 pm

rosiesays:
September 25, 2021 at 12:59 pm
—-
coronavirus infections three times lower in double vaccinated from imperial college news in the UK.

Freedom at 80? 90? percent vaxxed is assuming a close to 100% efficacy.

‘Three times lower’ in double vaxxed is never going to cut the mustard.

But one can dream.

johanna
johanna
September 25, 2021 1:43 pm

I like the idea of using ‘You’re the Voice’ at freedom rallies, and tfb if Farnsie objects.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6m2m_9Uijso

Zipster
September 25, 2021 1:43 pm
Baba
Baba
September 25, 2021 1:44 pm

Dotsays:
September 25, 2021 at 1:32 pm
Has Asst Comm. Gravy Warboat said anything stupid lately?

Didn’t he have an, err, ethics problem a couple of years ago?

Makka
Makka
September 25, 2021 1:45 pm

YOU ARE ALL GOING TO DIE AT SOME TIME AND SOME WHEN.

We really do have a fkg Einstein among us .

Any more unique insights, Sherlock?

It’s Remarkable
It’s Remarkable
September 25, 2021 1:45 pm

From Rosie’s link to the UK data about risk of catching the virus with the headline of 3 times less risk of infection if vaccinated
https://www.imperial.ac.uk/news/227713/coronavirus-infections-three-times-lower-double/

Always worth looking at the actual data.
We see that in this study the risk of getting the virus in the unvaccinated was 1.21%, and among the double vaccinated was 0.4%.
Ok, so the relative risk reduction is by a factor of 3.
But the actual risk reduction is only about 0.8% (i.e 1.21% minus 0.4% = 0.81%).
When actual risk is already pretty low, the relative risk figures can be misleading for many.

vlad redux
vlad redux
September 25, 2021 1:46 pm

“Luna Park” is trending on Twitter.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
September 25, 2021 1:47 pm

Public Health Order Officer

Or PHOO

I think I know what the masterplan might be.

calli
calli
September 25, 2021 1:48 pm

Flightradar24 is a great tool for following the action. Yesterday I noticed the activity around Northcote. Same thing – 2 helis doing sweeps and circles.

vlad redux
vlad redux
September 25, 2021 1:48 pm

That’s Freedom was a cover version of a Tom Kimmel original.

So tell Farnsy to stick it up his jumper.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
September 25, 2021 1:52 pm

Zipster says:
September 25, 2021 at 1:31 pm

China is not the enemy…

what are you, another chinese stooge? they seem to be everywhere these days defending the homeland against bad words

you thickhead craphead

where is the global warming shit coming from???

where is the Great Reset shit coming from???

why is Poland and Hungary ostracized in the EU.

fk off you dimeiy/

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
September 25, 2021 1:54 pm

Belt and Road is keeping the EU elite in power.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
September 25, 2021 1:54 pm

Prove me wrong

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
September 25, 2021 1:56 pm

Old Bloke, I’d never heard or a morale patch but there you go, marketed to police/military or wannabes.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/193279204027?hash=item2d00569abb:g:vHwAAOSwLy1eCoSm

At the same time as I saw last night I had a little rank about the obvious lack of professional standards/culture in the force and if you have a FB/Twitter account probably something to embarrass the Vic Pol command about. MSM seem to be hellbent on finding nasties under the bed instead of asking questions about this.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
September 25, 2021 1:57 pm

FFS rant not rank.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
September 25, 2021 2:08 pm

Casting my mind back to last week… and it appears quite obvious why Vicpols links to their crowd control procedures went to “404 not found”.

In the unlikely event a court stenographer ever asked an actual valid question of one of the mongs in charge they might want to inquire if any of the actions being taken are legal if there is no procedure covering it.

If there is no procedure being followed is “anything goes” the new law?

Or are they acting illegally and unbound by procedure?

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
September 25, 2021 2:08 pm

42. ®ight wing supreme

Yep. It’s on the menu at the local chinese restaurant.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
September 25, 2021 2:09 pm

“I’m just going to point out that there is evidence that vaccinated are significantly less likely to catch and pass on covid.”
******
Looking at the paper I’m not sure they’ve done their work properly.

They’ve done a variety of analyses showing higher infection rates among various demographics usually regarded as deprived, and showing higher rates of infection among unvaccinated, but it doesn’t seem to show whether there’s any correlation between being unvaccinated and being in the deprived/high infection demographics. If there is such correlation, and they haven’t adjusted for it (and I can’t see any clear statement in the paper that they have) then the results don’t tell us much about the vaccine.

Note also that the blurb about the paper quote mines the most alarming figure, which in the paper itself the authors point out has been superseded. Not surprising – this comes from Imperial College where COVID alarmism is under the auspices of Neill “Pants Down” Ferguson, world’s leading hysterical wrongologist.
(I’m not accusing the paper’s authors of any wrongdoing – they seem to have set out what they did and what results they got very openly.)

  1. And, please, no one with the reflexive ‘Trump won’t be President, the Dems will cheat!’ That is just an attempt…

  2. It’s okay Baba, he probably punched himself. https://twitter.com/PatriciaHeaton/status/1789281219504390572?t=r4q-bDatIN1v33F4g7zSeg&s=19

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