Open Thread – Mon 4 Oct 2021


The Little Tower of Babel, Pieter Bruegel the Elder, 1563

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Cassie of Sydney
October 8, 2021 1:08 pm

“Coutts-Trotter = Bilal Skaf?

In exactly what universe would that be?

Let’s keep this stuff real, guys.”

Yep…I fail to see the comparison.

calli
calli
October 8, 2021 1:08 pm

Hmmmmm…scrolling back sees me mentioned in dispatches. No wonder my ears felt hot. 😀

areff
areff
October 8, 2021 1:09 pm

He should be fined.

He won’t be. VicPol.

Cassie of Sydney
October 8, 2021 1:11 pm

“callisays:
October 8, 2021 at 1:08 pm
Hmmmmm…scrolling back sees me mentioned in dispatches. No wonder my ears felt hot. ?”

That was me Calli…I’m going to follow your example.

miltonf
miltonf
October 8, 2021 1:11 pm

Not after Blairgowie.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 8, 2021 1:11 pm

He is not allowed in the US, because it’s a felony level conviction.
It’s been referred to in one of the redemption puff pieces that have been run on the guy over the past decade.
It’s stopped many a boxer from getting into the US.
Them’s the rules.

calli
calli
October 8, 2021 1:14 pm

Best not to degenerate into brawling…let the boys do that.

We can cut up the half-time oranges. I can get some excellent Pinterest pins on how to present them stylishly.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
October 8, 2021 1:14 pm

Ambos in Vic are calling for the troops to drive as they run out of staff due to ramping.

I suspect the feather bedded work conditions provided by TaliDan in return for the use of emergency vehicles as Labor billboards last election might have something to do with it.

There’s nothing Dan touches that doesn’t turn to shit. How did NSW emergency services cope?

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 8, 2021 1:15 pm

Arlington high school shooter, bailed & back on the street.
I could understand that in Austin, but not even in any of the bluer parts of Texas.
Unregistered hand gun too.
Wonder why he was treated so well.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 8, 2021 1:17 pm

To play devils advocate…

Skaf (pigs be upon him) didnt kill anyone, nor set out to kill anyone.
Coutts-trotter may have killed unintentionally through the misuse of a product he supplied. At the least he knew he was supplying a substance with a risk of misuse and death by his customers.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 8, 2021 1:19 pm

How does the gruinaid report Resident Brainworms 350 billion dollar spend??

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/oct/07/bidens-signature-bill-isnt-that-expensive-its-a-drop-in-the-bucket
The $350bn a year in increased spending represents just 1.5% of the US GDP.

calli
calli
October 8, 2021 1:20 pm

Skaf (pigs be upon him) didnt kill anyone, nor set out to kill anyone.

No. He’s a gang rapist.

You can kill the psyche without killing the body. Those young girls…they might recover. I hope they do.

He still ruined their lives.

shatterzzz
October 8, 2021 1:25 pm

“Coutts-Trotter = Bilal Skaf?
In exactly what universe would that be?
Let’s keep this stuff real, guys.”
Yep…I fail to see the comparison.

The comparison was in reply to someone suggesting the drug dealer’s offence(s) were long past so shouldn’t be relevant anymore ……..

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
October 8, 2021 1:27 pm

Not content with spreading fear and confusion by labelling multiple Covid strains with alphabetical names, Chant is now announcing a new version of the old Delta strain.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
October 8, 2021 1:27 pm

2. Electricity is expensive

Oh me oh my.

Why is this so?

miltonf
miltonf
October 8, 2021 1:31 pm

People seem to want to give CT some sort of pass as way of convincing themselves that Perrottet might actually work in the public interest.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 8, 2021 1:31 pm

Dover, what’s the order?

What are politicians officially exempt from ?

miltonf
miltonf
October 8, 2021 1:32 pm

Even without the dubious way he got employed in the first place, a lieboral premier has again appointed and promoted someone with ALP credentials.

shatterzzz
October 8, 2021 1:33 pm

But he’s had a turn up today with the Saudi sovereign wealth fund buying his beloved Newcastle FC.
Pity most women can’t ready past a primary school level in Saudi Arabia, but at least those oil dollars can buy another play thing.

AS someone born & raised a Geordie I’m over the moon at this result .. winning at soccer these days is ALL about the money and now Toon will have some .. LOL!
As to the education level of women in Saudi Arabia that’s a bit like comparing the cries for money over the never-ending famines in Africa to the never ending troughin’ in Canberra .. end result .. nuttin’ changes!

Roger
Roger
October 8, 2021 1:34 pm

No. He’s a gang rapist.

You can kill the psyche without killing the body.

Today the press were camped outside the family home and reported on a take away food delivery of pizz & garlic bread.

He’ll be getting off on the attention.

Maybe there is something to be said for an Ardern style unpersoning in such cases?

Cassie of Sydney
October 8, 2021 1:34 pm

“The comparison was in reply to someone suggesting the drug dealer’s offence(s) were long past so shouldn’t be relevant anymore ……..”

Do you believe in rehabilitation?

areff
areff
October 8, 2021 1:34 pm

A press release just lobbed. ‘Fluffy floaties’ indeed:

World Renown Yogi Shanti Gowans declares “People Must Be More Anal About Their Health!”

Celebrated Yogi, Shanti Gowans, of The Health Institute Australiasia located in Southport QLD wants the world to know a secret that Ayurvedic Medical Practitioners have known for over 5000 years.

That secret is that the gut can be the cause or the solution to so many of today’s health issues.

Shanti Gowans states that “If people only knew that their their bowel movements could Transform their lives in ways that they cannot image” they would be trying to create fluffy floaties every chance they get….”

calli
calli
October 8, 2021 1:34 pm

Chant is now announcing a new version of the old Delta strain.

Attention deprivation?

miltonf
miltonf
October 8, 2021 1:39 pm

Do you believe in rehabilitation?

Sure do- maybe starting as a counter clerk and working his way up from there or perhaps an apprentice fitting/machinist. That’s very labor isn’t it? Why straight to the top?

Arky
October 8, 2021 1:39 pm

Do you believe in rehabilitation?

..
Only on the steps of the gallows.

miltonf
miltonf
October 8, 2021 1:42 pm

After all, a criminal record can preclude employment in the NSW pubic service.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 8, 2021 1:44 pm

Shanti Gowans states that “If people only knew that their their bowel movements could Transform their lives in ways that they cannot image” they would be trying to create fluffy floaties every chance they get….”

Kellogg (yes that one) does it better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RblbZQth0KE

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 8, 2021 1:47 pm

They are now exempt of the requirements everyone else listed as an Authorized Worker must adhere to by Oct 15; to wit, having first jab by that date, and second jab my end of Nov. This exempt was also today given to court workers and Commonwealth employees.

“The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.”

Cassie of Sydney
October 8, 2021 1:48 pm

No surprises here…

“Trans sporting guidelines: calls to update or scrap Australian policy

Australia’s controversial transgender sporting guidelines should be scrapped in the wake of a landmark UK sporting review that found men have innate performance advantages over females.

Controversial trans­gender sporting guidelines should be scrapped, according to pro-female sport advocates, in the wake of a landmark UK sporting review that found trans women have innate performance advantages when competing with other women.

The 18-month review of sporting bodies in the UK found trans women retain strength, stamina and physique advantages when competing in ­female sports, even when they reduce their ­testosterone levels.

“This guidance concludes that for many sports, the inclusion of transgender people, fairness and safety cannot coexist in a single competitive model,” the UK Sports Council reported.

It suggested individual sports choose to focus on either “inclusion” or “fairness and safety where relevant”, perhaps creating an “open” division, separate from a women’s division, in an attempt to be fairer to women.

Sport Australia, previously the Australian Sports Commission, has come under fire over its 2019 transgender guidelines, with concerns around fairness and safety. Those guidelines were drafted with the Human Rights Commission, allowing athletes born male to self-identify as women and play against females.

Liberal Senator Claire Chandler said it was “staggering” that the Sport Australia’s guidelines are still in use.

“Sport Australia’s position that entry into women’s sport should be based on self-declared gender identity rather than sex is so nonsensical that it is staggering their discredited ­guidelines haven’t been withdrawn,” she said.

“Their UK counterparts have shown that when you use common sense and look at the evidence, the only logical conclusion is that single-sex women’s sport is necessary to ­ensure fairness for female athletes.”

In response, a Sport Australia spokesman said the guidelines would only require updating if the 1984 Federal Sex Discrimination Act was changed.

Calls to ‘rethink’ biological men in women’s sportCricket kids are being asked if they’re ‘gender fluid’

“The guidelines provide clarity to sports regarding existing law, specifically the Federal Sex Discrimination Act (1984) and how it applies to sport,” he said. “The guidelines would only require updating if the Act is changed.”

Senator Chandler said the agency should engage with the questions raised by the UK review and was “out of touch” with public expectations.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 8, 2021 1:55 pm

What next for Victoria ?
Seriously, right when you think it can’t get any worse for those poor people.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
October 8, 2021 1:56 pm

Cassie of Sydneysays:
October 8, 2021 at 8:12 am
As for Coutts-Trotter’s heroin conviction of more thirty-three years ago, I get the feeling that the commentariat aren’t so much angry at him for that but more for the fact that he’s happily married to Plibbers. That’s his real crime. I wonder if he’d face the same kind of opprobrium had he married a high profile conservative woman?

Can be forgiven heroin dealing ( I find users just as bad as dealers) but Blabbersack,,,,,never. Ha!

Roger
Roger
October 8, 2021 1:58 pm

Australia’s controversial transgender sporting guidelines should be scrapped in the wake of a landmark UK sporting review that found men have innate performance advantages over females.

They needed a review to determine that.

Further proof, if needed, that we live in the stupidest of times.

Cassie of Sydney
October 8, 2021 1:59 pm

“They needed a review to determine that.

Further proof, if needed, that we live in the stupidest of times.”

My thoughts too Roger.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 8, 2021 2:00 pm

Look at these disgusting reptiles.
“Oh no, why could kids be convinced they are about to burn for Gaia after we have shoveled climate porn down their necks 24/7 since they were born”?
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/oct/06/eco-anxiety-fear-of-environmental-doom-weighs-on-young-people
The climate crisis is taking a growing toll on the mental health of children and young people, experts have warned.

Increasing levels of “eco-anxiety” – the chronic fear of environmental doom – were likely to be underestimated and damaging to many in the long term, public health experts said.

Writing in the British Medical Journal, Mala Rao and Richard Powell, of Imperial College London’s Department of Primary Care and Public Health, said eco-anxiety “risks exacerbating health and social inequalities between those more or less vulnerable to these psychological impacts”.

Although not yet considered a diagnosable condition, recognition of eco-anxiety and its complex psychological effects was increasing, they said, as was its “disproportionate” impact on children and young people.

In their article, they pointed to a 2020 survey of child psychiatrists in England showing that more than half (57%) are seeing children and young people distressed about the climate crisis and the state of the environment.

..

And the focus workgroup is in.
The key to saving kids is encouraging moar!! climate collectivism, living in the pods, eating the bugs and owning nothing and being happy about it…

“The best chance of increasing optimism and hope in the eco-anxious young and old is to ensure they have access to the best and most reliable information on climate mitigation and adaptation,” they said. “Especially important is information on how they could connect more strongly with nature, contribute to greener choices at an individual level, and join forces with like-minded communities and groups.”

Separately, new research also published in the BMJ suggests changing unhealthy behaviour* could be key to achieving net zero greenhouse gas emissions by 2050.

Theresa Marteau, of the University of Cambridge, said technological innovation alone would be insufficient.

Adopting a largely plant-based diet and taking most journeys using a combination of walking, cycling and public transport would substantially reduce greenhouse gas emissions and improve health, she said.

* Unhealthy behavior, Ie: Living a normal western lifestyle.
We are fast degenerating back to a neo feudal sumptuary laws based society.

Cassie of Sydney
October 8, 2021 2:00 pm

“Can be forgiven heroin dealing ( I find users just as bad as dealers) but Blabbersack,,,,,never. Ha!”

LOL.

shatterzzz
October 8, 2021 2:05 pm

What are politicians officially exempt from ?

anything that requires intelligence as a starting point .. LOL!

Rabz
October 8, 2021 2:06 pm

Chant is now announcing a new version of the old Delta strain

So much for Pair ‘o’ Teats sidelining the monstrous ol’ slag.

Rabz
October 8, 2021 2:07 pm

a landmark UK sporting review that found trans women have innate performance advantages when competing with other women

And this observation of the bleedin’ obvious took them 18 months to comprehend?

Stupidest of times, indeed.

Fat Tony
Fat Tony
October 8, 2021 2:07 pm

feelthebern says:
October 8, 2021 at 1:55 pm
What next for Victoria ?
Seriously, right when you think it can’t get any worse for those poor people.

Dan XiMan is not going to stop until Victoria is completely ruined and ready for handover to the CCP.
If he does not stay in charge, his “dealings” might be exposed…..

It’ll be interesting how NSW will now fare – if it’s more of what Gladbags was dishing up, then NSW will follow Victoria.

If NSW & Vic have been sold to the CCP, then all Australia has.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 8, 2021 2:19 pm

Wow!
Just saw six Vatican Swiss Guards get out of a Humvee in Winchelsea.
It had “UN Big Reset Squad” on the door.
What is that about?

Rorschach
Rorschach
October 8, 2021 2:21 pm

Wally (1)

[Not trying to steal away from BoN] But: Solar radiation passes through the atmosphere and is absorbed by land / sea and released / re-radiated as infrared (IR) – I think most can understand this…

The below diagram is the standard representation of how “transparent” the atmospheric gasses are to the electromagnetic EM spectrum. Essentially where they are not transparent (and absorb the EM radiation) there is a shaded / lump.

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As you can see CO2 has a solid lump at about the 10-15um range where no other gasses have – and this means that the outgoing EM radiation in the IR range is absorbed by the CO2, and – rather than passing through the atmosphere and out to space. Once the CO2 molecule absorbs the IR energy it gets excited and becomes more kinetic and on collision with other molecules, passes the energy on or it eventually re-radiates the IR energy (in all directions including downward), essentially heating the land / sea again.

Have a look here…

http://www.ces.fau.edu/nasa/module-2/how-greenhouse-effect-works.php

Whilst this explains how the greenhouse works – it does not explain why we are all doomed…! Especially since CO2 is such small % of the atmosphere. And this is where water vapour comes in. The theory being that the additional downwelling IR radiation and warmer atmosphere must heat the oceans and these in turn release more water vapour.

AND THAT is the gas that does the damage as it absorbs IR at a much larger spectrum … and hence heats the atmosphere even faster.

If you want to understand the actual physics … start with Planck’s black body radiation and Stefan / Bolzman emission laws

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black-body_radiation

… /2

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 8, 2021 2:22 pm

If Kerry Chant has announced a new Double Secret Probation Delta that is entirely within her remit, such as it is. Perrottet can hardly stop her announcing medical stuff.

Whatever you might think, it looks to me like she is trying to raise the stakes. If she can get enough people clamouring for Perrottet to restore her to her previous position as Covsmeller Pursuivant.

Question is what is he going to do with the information. If he edges toward increasing restrictions or postponing opening up then he loses and any momentum he may have gained will be lost.

If he says, “Well, if you get the sniffles get a hot cup of tea and have a lie down” then there will be some hope.

Rorschach
Rorschach
October 8, 2021 2:22 pm

Wally (2)

It is very interesting then to see the applied physics in action. [Which is why I’m belabouring this as this demonstrates another flaw in the Greenhouse GW theory]

If we take a look at a CO2 laser in action … beam at the 15 um range (i.e. CO2 absorption/emission), then it will cut through metal with zero problems. Here is a vid of a 130W laser doing that (at 1.15).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNcapGmzIOg

If we then look at a CO2 laser … again with the beam at the 15um range warming water … then something different occurs. Only the surface layer is warmed / heated by this 200W laser. The laser does not penetrate [see for example 1.30 where the user tests the temp by fully immersing his finger in the cup]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=St42DnA_Swo&t=18s

Or same here in a much shorter vid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m74ylCraCVE

The argument is that water will not allow IR to pass … it will even stop focused / coordinated laser beams in the hundreds of watts!

…/3

Fat Tony
Fat Tony
October 8, 2021 2:22 pm

Sancho Panzer says:
October 8, 2021 at 2:19 pm
Wow!
Just saw six Vatican Swiss Guards get out of a Humvee in Winchelsea.
It had “UN Big Reset Squad” on the door.
What is that about?

It means you should stick your head between your legs and kiss your arse goodbye…….obviously.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
October 8, 2021 2:23 pm

areffsays:
October 8, 2021 at 12:17 pm
Tim, you write: AHPRA wrote to every doctor in Australia to discourage them from putting “covid vaccine” as a cause of death on death certificates.

Have a link? I just searched AHPRA’s website without any luck.

I actually saw it somewhere on this site.
I’ll try to recall where and see if I can track it down.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
October 8, 2021 2:26 pm

thefrollickingmolesays:
October 8, 2021 at 1:17 pm
To play devils advocate…

Skaf (pigs be upon him) didnt kill anyone, nor set out to kill anyone.
Coutts-trotter may have killed unintentionally through the misuse of a product he supplied. At the least he knew he was supplying a substance with a risk of misuse and death by his customers.

Does this make car manufacturers responsible for chicken truck drivers or anyone else that kills someone in a crash. Personally I don’t give a fat rats bum about druggies dying. I care about their loved ones.

P
P
October 8, 2021 2:26 pm
Judge Dredd
Judge Dredd
October 8, 2021 2:34 pm

If you need Ivermectin (Ziverdo kit from Indiamart). It is delivered in a nondescript box from this guy. The process is a little convoluted, but can confirm it works. Register, put in your interest and then conclude the deal over email.
https://www.indiamart.com/saenterprises-nagpur/search.html?ss=Covid+19

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 8, 2021 2:34 pm

Does this make car manufacturers responsible for chicken truck drivers or anyone else that kills someone in a crash

Both set out to do deplorable actions which may kill or derail a persons life, knowingly and with forethought.

One is now in the top public service position in a state.
The other slithered home to its family after 15 or so years in prison.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 8, 2021 2:53 pm

Chant is now announcing a new version of the old Delta strain.

Delta Tau Chi? Mandatory togas next.

rickw
rickw
October 8, 2021 2:55 pm

I also believe grades 3-6 will be made to wear masks when they return to school.

What a vile and disgusting state.

Indolent
Indolent
October 8, 2021 2:56 pm

The question is not whether he is competent or not; the real threat is he is a deep state operative (DSO) who espouses all the left wing lunacy about climate change and every other derangement from the ABC/Guardian. I have seen how DSOs appoint other DSOs to all the senior executive positions so that the bureaucracy becomes a totally left wing anti-conservative bulwark totally hostile to any attempt to provide sane government.

Wasn’t the one Gladys nominated a card carrying communist and incompetent to boot? How could he be worse?

Wally Dalí
Wally Dalí
October 8, 2021 2:56 pm

Rorsharchch- thanks heaps for your input. I had forgotten the radiation by spectrum chart, and the splits between atmospheric components.
It does keep me thinking that N2 and O2 do have a little bit of activity, although that is scotched by Bruce in Newcastle’s info for IR photons at least. But, considering that there is about five hundred times as much O2 in the atmosphere as CO2, and a magnitude more again for N2, there would not have to be much of a “greenhouse effect” from either to put CO2 in the shade.
I’ll try to find a link about comlumnar CO2 distribution. CH4 is meant to be very light and, considering it’s largely made of termite farts, high-minded.

Indolent
Indolent
October 8, 2021 2:59 pm

Impressive. Does Victoria (or anywhere else) put up the list of daily recoveries alongside case numbers?

Of course not. Why not?

Probably don’t know and definitely don’t care. How naive to think this actually has anything to do with health.

shatterzzz
October 8, 2021 3:03 pm

Life insurance & BAT FLU .. USA …
https://ibb.co/NN9VJ7t

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 8, 2021 3:03 pm

As you can see CO2 has a solid lump at about the 10-15um range where no other gasses have

Rorschach – Water vapour absorbs about 50% in that range and liquid water 100%. They never show liquid water on those charts for some weird reason. It’s a mystery.

Wiki

And as I said: liquid water is a sink for the energy since it gets locked up as latent heat until the resultant water vapour gets to the troposphere and rains out.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
October 8, 2021 3:05 pm

What a vile and disgusting state.

Viktoristan,

shatterzzz
October 8, 2021 3:18 pm

Going cheap sometimes doesn’t work .. duuuuuuh!
Update on last week’s purchase of plant-based mince on clearance (50cents-half kilo) and feeding magpies .. youngest daughter reports she ended up throwing it out after the maggies ignored the stuff 2 days in a row …!
The real worry is .. there folk out there that, actually, eat this stuff ……

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
October 8, 2021 3:25 pm

dover. I have cameras everywhere.

Indolent
Indolent
October 8, 2021 3:25 pm

A real estate agent tells me that Dan’s ‘roadmap’ includes banning the unvaxxed from inspecting properties in the future. Dan is psychotic enough to implement this.

Where are the legal challenges? Surely to goodness none of this can be legal, even under anti-discrimination laws, let alone privacy laws!

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 8, 2021 3:29 pm

Haven’t checked backthread, but Warren Mundine in the Oz, fabulous article, clearly expressed in ways people can really relate to, criticising lockdowns and the damage they have done and are still doing.

I can copy parts of it if it hasn’t already been mentioned. Featured comments running in the 500 likes and most of them totally in favour of his piece.

Mak Siccar
Mak Siccar
October 8, 2021 3:30 pm

For any Cats who may have followed Peter Ridd’s case, a message from him today.

Dear All, The High Court decision will be handed down on Wednesday 13th October at 10 am. I’ll send an update shortly after the decision is made available on Wednesday….

Rorschach
Rorschach
October 8, 2021 3:31 pm

Wally (3)

The interesting thing is that water itself cannot be warmed by downwelling IR! IR just can not penetrate past the surface layer.

This is a major flaw in the runaway greenhouse argument… a) if downwelling IR can’t warm the oceans … then how are they warming? [or are they really?] b) if the oceans can’t be warmed, then how are they supposed to expand and drown all the coasts?

https://sealevel.nasa.gov/understanding-sea-level/global-sea-level/thermal-expansion

This issue has been looked at many times – but no good explanation found.

Here is the Climate Science gang looking at it… They conclude that because they can prove that IR can warm the skin layer of the ocean (itself only micrometer or so thick), then this can warm many kilometres of water column below (hmm… micrometers warm kilometres? And heat sinks rather than rises?)

https://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2006/09/why-greenhouse-gases-heat-the-ocean/

And here are some physicists taking it apart on the legendary “science of doom” multi part thread on this.

https://scienceofdoom.com/2010/10/06/does-back-radiation-heat-the-ocean-part-one/

Indolent
Indolent
October 8, 2021 3:35 pm

What next for Victoria ?
Seriously, right when you think it can’t get any worse for those poor people.

How about revolution. Mass disobedience. When will they throw off their shackles and say “no more”?

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 8, 2021 3:37 pm

Here it is anyway:

These meandering Covid road maps lead to a dead end
NYUNGGAI WARREN MUNDINE

11:00PM OCTOBER 7, 2021
381 COMMENTS

There’s a saying: if all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

Some of us were shocked when Australian governments copied communist China imposing Covid-19 lockdowns. Some thought this was a too single-minded focus on health over the economy, jobs, education, social interaction, family relationships and civil rights.

People tolerated it for various reasons. I’m past the point of tolerating it any more. After 20 months, all I see are desperate, tired people with frayed emotions, hanging on because they think it’s nearly over. So it was incredibly disappointing during the past few months to see state governments renege on allowing citizens a full, normal life.

The so-called national plan signed off by all states and territories dangled rewards for 80 per cent of adults fully vaccinated. The rewards were illusory. Queensland and Western Australia threw the national plan out the window. And NSW and Victoria made their own, more restrictive, road maps.

Under NSW’s original road map, substantial restrictions remained even after NSW reached 80 per cent, including limitations on household visitors and other gatherings; masks indoors; businesses subject to density restrictions; stadiums restricted to 5000 people; schools not fully open until November 1; funerals, weddings and churches subject to density restrictions. If one thing epitomises the cruelty of lockdowns, it’s grieving via streaming.

These restrictions would not lift until December 1, with some density restrictions continuing indefinitely.

On Thursday, new NSW Premier Dominic Perrottet announced an earlier easing of some of these restrictions, including increased caps on visitors and other gatherings, scrapping masks in offices, partial opening of nightclubs and schools fully open by October 25. But restrictions will still continue until December 1.

Victoria remains under an iron fist. It will reach 80 per cent later and, after it does, will maintain even more restrictions than NSW’s original plan. Restrictions will continue until 80 per cent of people aged over 12 are vaccin­ated, likely Christmas Day. Then households can have 30 visitors.

Businesses in both states must deploy staff as bouncers to keep out unvaccinated customers (in NSW until December 1, in Victoria indefinitely). Health bureaucrats may think this will increase vaccine rates. But spare a thought for small businesses, which already have borne most of the pain and cost of lockdown, now also deputised as Covid police.

We’ve no idea when Australians will be allowed to travel freely within our country.

It’s only a matter of time before Covid gets into the non-Covid affected states, prompting cycles of endless lockdowns and false promises. Queensland Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk has threatened to keep borders shut until the federal government gives her state more money. This is the Premier who banned dancing and mingling at school formals while permitting 40,000 people, leaping and shouting, at the football.

Australians are like kids on a long car ride repeatedly asking when they’ll get there, with Mum fibbing it will be soon to tide them over until the next stop. I’m tired of being treated like a child; tired of rule by highly paid bureaucrats and their complex, contradictory and sometimes absurd edicts.

How many of them have run a business or created a job? They seem to have no idea how hard it is to operate with constraints on income while trying to pay wages, rent and the rest.

Health bureaucrats clearly don’t care about jobs or businesses or the economy, or reuniting families, or mourners being able to properly grieve, or children’s education, or civil liberties. They don’t even care about health.

They only care about one disease: Covid-19. Scroll through the NSW or Victorian health department’s social media accounts and see how many posts are about anything else. What are they doing about other public health priorities? What are they doing about the health problems created by their own lockdowns, such as the deterioration of youth mental health and the significant decline in cancer screenings?

Thursday’s announcement of earlier easing of restrictions in NSW was welcome. But it’s not enough. Why must NSW wait another five to six weeks after reaching 80 per cent for the return of freedoms and businesses operating near capacity? Why must density restrictions continue?

How will small businesses cope with staff forced into isolation if a Covid case walks through the door?

Mandatory isolation triggered by Britain’s contact-tracing app, dubbed the “pingdemic”, wreaked such havoc the UK largely abandoned isolation rules.

And who will rein in the lockdown-addicted bureaucrats so we don’t have to go through this again?

If Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews’ “go hard, go early” lockdown proved anything, it’s that lockdowns don’t work. Victoria’s latest outbreak soared higher and faster than NSW starting from the same point. Yet NSW’s chief health officer has refused to rule out lockdowns after reaching 80 per cent. Why is it up to her?

Lockdown is the hammer. Covid is the nail. And health bureaucrats see nothing else.

I think Perrottet understands this. Let’s hope he has the courage to lead the state out of this wilderness, not follow the bureaucrats deeper into the mire.

Nyunggai Warren Mundine is author of Speaking My Mind

Baba
Baba
October 8, 2021 3:38 pm

Stories about Covid vaxx side-effects are misinformation. But when they do occur they save you from cancer. How good is that?

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-08/covid-vaccination-leads-to-young-persons-early-cancer-diagnosis/100520976

Joanna
Joanna
October 8, 2021 3:41 pm

Some idiot called in to 3AW and argued that people would be fine with banning the unvaxxed if only we spoke about prerequisites rather than mandates.

Indolent, this is why. What an absolute hell-hole this state is.

MatrixTransform
October 8, 2021 3:45 pm

He should be fined gibbetted.

Delta A
Delta A
October 8, 2021 3:47 pm

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Bearesays:
October 8, 2021 at 3:37 pm
Here it is anyway:

An excellent article by Warren Mundine. Thanks for posting it.

Indolent
Indolent
October 8, 2021 3:51 pm

These meandering Covid road maps lead to a dead end
NYUNGGAI WARREN MUNDINE

Thank you for this. It’s like a breath of fresh air. I have long admired Warren Mundine.

shatterzzz
October 8, 2021 3:55 pm

I think Perrottet understands this. Let’s hope he has the courage to lead the state out of this wilderness, not follow the bureaucrats deeper into the mire.
He hasn’t! …….. period! .. that’s why he didn’t alter GLADYS time frame(s) by much frightened of party room & Photios reaction ……. against passports/lockdowns before .. not a peep out of him now he’s BOSS!

areff
areff
October 8, 2021 4:02 pm

Timothy: Thanks for that link. It’s an eye-opener.

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
October 8, 2021 4:04 pm

The SMH this morning ran the story of China having to use Australian coal again – tucked away at the bottom of page 31.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
October 8, 2021 4:04 pm

Warren Mundine mentions What are they doing about other public health priorities? What are they doing about the health problems created by their own lockdowns (Thanks Lizzie)

Lo and behold The Australian backs up his concerns with this article:

Lockdowns have resulted in delays to surgery for life-threatening ­cancers, with one in seven patients having to wait on average an extra five months.

A study published in the Lancet, involving 20,000 patients from 61 countries, found that high-income countries, including Australia, had experienced severe delays because of the pandemic. Surgeons reported that lockdowns had had collateral impacts on cancer patients, with life-threatening bowel cancers, breast cancer and gynaecological cancers including ovarian and uterine cancers commonly delayed.

Bastards.

Indolent
Indolent
October 8, 2021 4:04 pm

Clip from a 1995 speech

I don’t know if this is exactly what has transpired, but there have been several mentions of something called Lucerferin which apparently enables external physical contact with vaccinated people. I know this sounds incredible but so much of what is happening is. One doctor mentioned in a speech that a friend tried using a fake vax certificate to travel overseas and when she went through the security scan they picked up that she was not vaccinated. Perhaps that’s why all those metal bits which people keep finding in the vaccines under microscopes were put there.

Old bloke
Old bloke
October 8, 2021 4:07 pm

Dover, thank you for the artwork which accompanies many of the posts here, it’s worthwhile coming here just to appreciate the art.

cohenite
October 8, 2021 4:08 pm

The theory being that the additional downwelling IR radiation and warmer atmosphere must heat the oceans and these in turn release more water vapour.

IR cannot penetrate the ocean surface. CO2 radiation doesn’t heat water.

Isotropy, the mechanism you were describing in respect of the absorption and emission by CO2 of IR radiation, as an explanation for the greenhouse is confounded by at least 2 processes. Firstly saturation, where by the CO2 in the atmosphere cannot absorb any more radiation; see Hammer. This is a little less complicated. And this shows the saturation effect graphically. And this that the effect on temperature of increases in CO2 decreases.

The second contradiction is the window, or that part of the spectrum of outgoing radiation where CO2 has no effect. Kiehl and Trenberth in their infamous 1997 paper calculated this at 40w-m^2. This now appears to be far too low with some estimates now putting it at twice that. That’s a 40w-m^2 underestimation and since the greenhouse effect is supposed to create a warming effect of 3.7w-m^2 you can see how a 40w-m^2 error dwarves the so-called greenhouse warming effect.

shatterzzz
October 8, 2021 4:08 pm

Oh dear! .. BRADBURY‘s gotten all upset cos Tomato has gotten all upset! .. Blaming social media for all the nasty, negative stuff he & Tomato don’t like .. Thankfully, his thunderous disapproval will pull all the net blogs-sphere into line just like he does State premiers who overdo the BAT FLU fiasco .. then again!
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/social-media-a-cowards-palace-says-prime-minister-as-he-promises-more-action-to-hold-online-abusers-responsible/ar-AAPeb1x?li=AAgfYrC

MatrixTransform
October 8, 2021 4:09 pm

IR, how do you get into my house?

roundly … stuff absorbs EM radiation in broad spectra and then re-emits in narrow spectra.

ie. shit gets hot when sun shines

cohenite
October 8, 2021 4:11 pm

The theory being that the additional downwelling IR radiation and warmer atmosphere must heat the oceans and these in turn release more water vapour.

IR cannot penetrate the ocean surface. CO2 radiation doesn’t heat water.

Isotropy, the mechanism you were describing in respect of the absorption and emission by CO2 of IR radiation, as an explanation for the greenhouse is confounded by at least 2 processes. Firstly saturation, where by the CO2 in the atmosphere cannot absorb any more radiation; this means as CO2 increases the heating effect of that increase decreases.

The second contradiction is the window, or that part of the spectrum of outgoing radiation where CO2 has no effect. Kiehl and Trenberth in their infamous 1997 paper calculated this at 40w-m^2. This now appears to be far too low with some estimates now putting it at twice that. That’s a 40w-m^2 underestimation and since the greenhouse effect is supposed to create a warming effect of 3.7w-m^2 you can see how a 40w-m^2 error dwarves the so-called greenhouse warming effect.

MatrixTransform
October 8, 2021 4:12 pm

Tom Elliott thinks it’s a good idea

when does the Rhodes Scholar look in the mirror and go, “OMFG, what have I done?”

PS: dover, I don’t know why you punish yourself

miltonf
miltonf
October 8, 2021 4:13 pm

PS: dover, I don’t know why you punish yourself

Me neither but Mitchell is even worse.

Rorschach
Rorschach
October 8, 2021 4:14 pm

IR cannot penetrate the ocean surface. CO2 radiation doesn’t heat water.

Yes … that was my point. 🙂

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
October 8, 2021 4:21 pm

Dover, thank you for the artwork

Spot on Old Bloke.
My education was very limited I can see, so now I dive into the web for information about the art and artists Dover posts.

Indolent
Indolent
October 8, 2021 4:21 pm

After that last off the planet one I put up

Believe it or not

True or false, what is absolutely clear, and you don’t need to be a genius to work it out, is that everything that is happening supposed for our benefit and health is nothing but cover for evil intentions against us. From the (manufactured) virus itself, to the dubious “vaccines” to the lockdowns, to the forced masking, which is KNOWN to be of no benefit, to the withholding of effective therapeutics, NONE of this is actually for our good.

Perhaps Cory Bernardi said it best.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 8, 2021 4:22 pm

miltonf

Sure do- maybe starting as a counter clerk and working his way up from there or perhaps an apprentice fitting/machinist. That’s very labor isn’t it?

That’s just sooooo 20th Century. The Labor way these days is to “do” Arts/Law at uni, become a union “research officer”, then take either the “union secretary” course (in a line of actual work they wouldn’t touch with a barge pole), and end up with a safe spot on the Senate ticket, or become a staffer in a pollie’s office, then work up to a couple of tries at a marginal Reps seat, then get the prized safe seat.

miltonf
miltonf
October 8, 2021 4:26 pm
thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 8, 2021 4:37 pm

Can someone tell me what instrument she is playing?

https://youtu.be/tbxblyMCUSo

Makka
Makka
October 8, 2021 4:40 pm

Seriously, right when you think it can’t get any worse for those poor people.</blockquote

Indeed. That's why I chuckle when I saw commentary dissing Gladys. If only they really knew what it’s like living in Sicktoria.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
October 8, 2021 4:41 pm

This is not going to end well.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 8, 2021 4:45 pm

Did someone say China & coal?

China’s top coal region tells mines to boost output immediately

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/chinas-top-coal-region-tells-mines-boost-output-immediately-sources-2021-10-08/

Zipster
Zipster
October 8, 2021 4:47 pm

China in Focus – NTD
01:16 Floods cause damage in Northern China
03:31 Authorities forcibly demolish new house, beat owner
04:58 Xi Jinping cracks down on scammers
05:42 Document lists illegal activities by Chinese police
07:51 Huawei hires former BBC Exec. as editor-in-chief
08:58 U.S. blocks CGN from getting nuclear materials
10:53 U.S. navy head: China is a top threat
12:16 European firms consider moving staff from HK
13:33 Taiwan seeks support after Chinese incursions
15:44 New Zealand sails through South China Sea
16:37 Dems want new fees for federal land mining
19:31 French senators warn of Beijing’s influence
22:14 Chinese student charged w/ U.S. church arson

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 8, 2021 4:48 pm

Joe Rogan just doesn’t give a fuck.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPMwlAafca4

cohenite
October 8, 2021 4:48 pm

Yes … that was my point

And it was an excellent one.

Old bloke
Old bloke
October 8, 2021 4:54 pm

Has anyone debunked the claim that NSW Health are issuing Ivermectin to vaxxed Covid-19 sufferers but are refusing to give it to the unvaxxed sufferers?

Ivermectin scandal: Vaxxed COVID patients get tablets to recover but unvaxxed denied

If it’s true that the vaxxed are getting some treatment that’s good news, but the same treatments should be made available to the unvaxxed.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
October 8, 2021 4:56 pm

Can someone tell me what instrument she is playing?

Sounds like a piano.

caveman
caveman
October 8, 2021 5:01 pm

“Can someone tell me what instrument she is playing?”

A mouth organ?

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
October 8, 2021 5:01 pm

Can someone tell me what instrument she is playing?

Bogey’s

Roger
Roger
October 8, 2021 5:02 pm

China’s Global Times is having conniptions over Tony Abbott.

Warning of a “cataclysmic upheaval” between China & Australia.

He does know how to upset the right people.

Indidentally, I see the French ambassador has labelled Australia as “childish”.

Well, we’re not the ones throwing a giant tanty, Monsieur.

JC
JC
October 8, 2021 5:03 pm

Baba

Stories about Covid vaxx side-effects are misinformation.

Look, I have nothing to go on other that what the dude said. He’s a really decent doc and the reason I trust him is that he spent about 5 years learning the cardio trade under another Australian doc at Lennox Hill in NYC. The senior ran the cardio dept there. Really, I only trust American docs or docs taught at Melbourne or Sydney Universities. Everyone else are just nursing staff as far as I’m concerned. Anyways, I’m digressing.

My cardio dude said his practice is very busy with (almost all) young people suffering side effects from the Pfizer drug. They appear to be suffering very mild vascular related issues – typically heart related inflammation. A large number suffer some heart region pain and then panic because they’re young and have never really experienced pains of that nature before. More likely , mum and dad are panicking. All of it is eminently treatable, he said.

He said likes the AZ shot more because the foundation of the shot is based on the flu vaccine calling it a re-purposed drug. It’s not like the other two that are mRNA based and much newer. He also said that that the worry time is really about two months after the vax and past that the risk is infinitesimal.

P
P
October 8, 2021 5:03 pm
JC
JC
October 8, 2021 5:05 pm

feelthebern says:
October 8, 2021 at 4:45 pm

Did someone say China & coal?

China’s top coal region tells mines to boost output immediately

But, but what happens to the global warming and with hurricanes in the Gulf of Mexico in the closing months of summer? And the Paris accords?

rosie
rosie
October 8, 2021 5:07 pm

Old bloke we’ve discussed this.
It’s almost certainly a prescription for someone with a severe case of crusted scabies based on the prescription information (refer to the TGA website for details).
The person who put the picture on the internet actually says they don’t have covid plus the dosages for covid seems to always be 3 or 5 days continuous.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
October 8, 2021 5:07 pm

Coal is King.
Looks like the King is returning from exile and will resume the throne.

JC
JC
October 8, 2021 5:11 pm

incoherent rambler says:
October 8, 2021 at 5:07 pm

Coal is King.
Looks like the King is returning from exile and will resume the throne.

Naaa. It’s here for a time, but eventually much cheaper and much more abundant energy will come from fission and longer term, fusion. That’s where the world is headed.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 8, 2021 5:15 pm

Coal is King.
Looks like the King is returning from exile and will resume the throne.

The irony is only surpassed by the hypocrisy. Really is amazing how clueless these people are. Mortgaging their whole electricity grid to Putin for Russian gas and expecting something other than to be ripped off?

And the Chinese zeroing Australian coal imports in a fit of pique only to cause widespread blackouts and factory closures? Is that schadenfreude or what?

This century is insane, it really is. So much self-harm for absolutely no reason at all.

Dot
Dot
October 8, 2021 5:16 pm

I saw “Vaxed” caps for sale at a Druggist, what a dumb society we live in. The upside is I haven’t seen any chump wearing one – yet.

Roger
Roger
October 8, 2021 5:18 pm

But, but what happens to the global warming and with hurricanes in the Gulf of Mexico in the closing months of summer? And the Paris accords?

They’ll sort all that out at Glasgow.

rosie
rosie
October 8, 2021 5:23 pm

Has Andrews shifted the goal posts to 80 percent of over 12s?

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
October 8, 2021 5:25 pm

JC. (commercial use) Fusion is closer than the markets think.
According to two I know that are involved in fusion research.

see Bruce’s post.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
October 8, 2021 5:27 pm

Vaxxed, waxed and ready to climax. See last nights’s lame pics

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 8, 2021 5:31 pm

They’ll sort all that out at Glasgow.

Karachi with kilts? Intrepid COPers might want to avoid certain parts of the city, especially when imbibing fine amber fluids.

JC
JC
October 8, 2021 5:34 pm

JC. (commercial use) Fusion is closer than the markets think.
According to two I know that are involved in fusion research.

see Bruce’s post.

I know.

Roger
Roger
October 8, 2021 5:35 pm

Karachi with kilts? Intrepid COPers might want to avoid certain parts of the city, especially when imbibing fine amber fluids.

What’s a visit to Glasgow without a curry washed down with a few lagers?

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
October 8, 2021 5:35 pm

Psays:
October 8, 2021 at 5:03 pm
Thanks P
Great end-line by Abbott: “I won’t end urging you to stay safe. Rather something nobler and higher; stay free.”
What the hell went wrong when he was PM? I know he was handicapped by having a Coalition party room comprising as gutless a clown troupe of half-witted self-seeking incompetent repellent treacherous slapstick nonentities as has ever been assembled in one place in the history of (purportedly) sentient life, but it really looked like six months in he just gave up.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 8, 2021 5:37 pm

It’s here for a time, but eventually much cheaper and much more abundant energy will come from fission and longer term, fusion. That’s where the world is headed.

Agreed JC. I don’t know how the fusion stuff will turn out, but there’re some interesting byways that people are researching. Stuff like lithium and boron as fusion elements, rather than deuterium and tritium (which is a pain in the bum, as the Japs are finding right now).

Winston Smith
October 8, 2021 5:37 pm

Vlad Delux:

I think it was “The Menace From Earth”, but yes, that was one of his.

Correct.
I realised my mistake later.

JC
JC
October 8, 2021 5:38 pm

Yesterday, I witnessed why this “cuntry” is inundated with “dobbers”. Couldn’t find a park so I slotted into a loading zone and went to get my coffee and cig. There’s a park across the road with seats facing the street. I got back into the car with the goodies and noticed a bald idiot sitting on a park seat by himself nodding towards me. I took down the car window and I asked him if he was nodding at me. He said he was because I was parked in a loading zone. I nicely told him to mind his own fucking business and if he had nothing to do, he needed to get busy trying to figure out how he can grow some hair on his stupid bald head. I let my cig and drove off.

What fucking business is it for a ~ 40year old bald fuck sitting on a park bench scoffing down a croissant if some dude is parked in a loading zone?

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 8, 2021 5:38 pm

Dotsays:
October 8, 2021 at 5:16 pm
I saw “Vaxed” caps for sale at a Druggist, what a dumb society we live in. The upside is I haven’t seen any chump wearing one – yet.

Are there any “Leper” caps? With bells on them?

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 8, 2021 5:39 pm

it really looked like six months in he just gave up.

First few months was waiting, waiting, for sure he’s just organising to do great things, and then came the appointment of Natasha Scott-Whatever, and after that more and more inaction and great disappointments.

Makka
Makka
October 8, 2021 5:40 pm

The Brits usually do a good job of these. I hope they don’t fk it up;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naactPCbIgQ

OPERATION MINCEMEAT

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 8, 2021 5:51 pm

First few months was waiting, waiting, for sure he’s just organising to do great things, and then came the appointment of Natasha Scott-Whatever, and after that more and more inaction and great disappointments.

Almost as though he realized that there is a certain element in this country, who thinks that the election of a Liberal Government is somehow illegitimate.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
October 8, 2021 5:51 pm

“First few months was waiting, waiting, for sure he’s just organising to do great things, …”
****
He did get rid of the mining tax and the carbon tax and stopped the boats.
Bu then it was “into a nearby phone booth… It’s Credibility Self-Destruction Man!!!”

rickw
rickw
October 8, 2021 5:52 pm

No more unvaxxed discovered at work this week.

A number did however volunteer how much pressure they came under from management to get vaxed. Disgusting.

What’s that word for oneness of Government and Corporations?

rickw
rickw
October 8, 2021 5:55 pm

Little bloke (prep) was subject to English and Maths testing this week.

On the cusp of Grade 3 level for Maths. Grade 2 level for English.

How fucking shit are teachers?

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
October 8, 2021 5:56 pm

What’s that word for oneness of Government and Corporations?
***
“Crony capitalism” was one phrase.

CrazyOldRanga
CrazyOldRanga
October 8, 2021 5:57 pm

JC,

I have a bull bar on the front of my truck and I know how to use it. Stay out of loading zones. Please and thank you.

JC
JC
October 8, 2021 6:03 pm

Ranga

I do, very occasionally it can’t be helped. You’re deputized to ram people’s cars at will are you? You don’t require a commercial reg to park in loading zone any longer in Melbourne. How would you know if someone is parked there legit or not? Stick your bullbars up the rear.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 8, 2021 6:03 pm
Winston Smith
October 8, 2021 6:03 pm

Just a quick search – no picture of the ‘UN ambulance’ and the “Threatening Soldier.”
Any available?

Cassie of Sydney
October 8, 2021 6:06 pm

“but it really looked like six months in he just gave up.”

Yes, I believe he gave up after the 2014 budget…he capitulated to the hysteria. He didn’t have a good treasurer in Hockey. But the sad truth is that Abbott refused to fight back.

cohenite
October 8, 2021 6:06 pm

What fucking business is it for a ~ 40year old bald fuck sitting on a park bench scoffing down a croissant if some dude is parked in a loading zone?

Only if the dude is in a Bentley and wearing chinos, a cravat and smoking his fags in an ivory embellished fag holder.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 8, 2021 6:07 pm

he needed to get busy trying to figure out how he can grow some hair on his stupid bald head.

/golf clap…

I have a bull bar on the front of my truck and I know how to use it. Stay out of loading zones. Please and thank you.

JC can just claim he was a proud indigenous man staging a one man sit in protest at gerbil worming/ poxy blankets/ his boomerang didnt come back and you’d be up for a hate crime…

Cassie of Sydney
October 8, 2021 6:08 pm

“Bu then it was “into a nearby phone booth… It’s Credibility Self-Destruction Man!!!””

I’ve also come to the conclusion that Credlin didn’t help him.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 8, 2021 6:11 pm

All who get their third injection will be superior people allowed to do amazing stuff like going to restaurants. Doublers may visit Maccas drive through and the dirty unvaxxed will have to eat grass and dirt.

Australia to roll out third shots of vaccine for immunocompromised people (8 Oct)

Soon four will be the magic number to qualify as an elite woke Karen.

MatrixTransform
October 8, 2021 6:12 pm

What fucking business is it for a ~ 40year old bald fuck sitting on a park bench scoffing down a croissant if some dude is parked in a loading zone?

It’s not you JC, its BMW drivers in general

MatrixTransform
October 8, 2021 6:12 pm

do your blinkers even work?

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 8, 2021 6:14 pm

year and a half in, nearly zero cases, and a massive budget surplus, what does McClown do??

WA Health Minister Roger Cook says hospitals already under pressure due to COVID-19

The narrative on their ABCcess this afternon was “1200 exra patients (Australiawide) has broken the hospitals.
All the excess deaths coming down the track (from RESTRICTIONS!!) are because of covid…”

Its almost like they are all singing from the same rehearsed hymn sheet.

Morriswine showing a rare display of spinal matter.
Might last the weekend before he caves in.

Western Australia’s Health Minister Roger Cook has lashed out at the federal government, saying WA hospitals have experienced increased demand due to COVID-19 — despite the state not having had a major outbreak — and more funding is required.

“Delta is coming and I’m tired of the Commonwealth continuing to fail in its national leadership obligations to assist the country [to] come out of the [COVID-19] pandemic,” Mr Cook said.

“It’s time for the Prime Minister to be a Prime Minister of Australia, not just New South Wales.”

On Thursday, Mr Morrison said states had been able to prepare for COVID-19 surges in their health systems for the past 18 months, and the federal government had provided enough money to fund hospitals.

The sheer bloody gall…
WA Budget reveals $5.6 billion surplus

hzhousewife
October 8, 2021 6:15 pm

Has there been any forward thinking regarding what happens a couple of years down the track regarding the approx 20% of people who have not been able (medically advised) or unwilling to be jabbed? Some of these people will have better antibodies than jabbees, having had the covid and then refusing to be jabbed. Just curious…………………….

rickw
rickw
October 8, 2021 6:15 pm

I have sent several emails to my local member over the last 18 months. I never got a reply or response.

I sent a particularly blunt, crude and simple one today, got a response with 30 minutes.

I hope those fucking arseholes are shitting themselves, they should be.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 8, 2021 6:16 pm

Timothy Neilsonsays:
October 8, 2021 at 5:56 pm
What’s that word for oneness of Government and Corporations?
***
“Crony capitalism” was one phrase.

I think that rickw was groping for a single word, rather than a phrase. He spies with his little eye, something beginning with “f”.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 8, 2021 6:17 pm

rickwsays:
October 8, 2021 at 6:15 pm

Better hit rate than me.
Zero responses from any pollie or person in authority.

Zipster
Zipster
October 8, 2021 6:18 pm
Boambee John
Boambee John
October 8, 2021 6:19 pm

Winston Smithsays:
October 8, 2021 at 6:03 pm
Just a quick search – no picture of the ‘UN ambulance’ and the “Threatening Soldier.”
Any available?

Someone up-thread linked to Twatter, showing the UN vehicles on a transporter. Nothing more on Bendigo Bloke.

Winston Smith
October 8, 2021 6:21 pm

Feelthe Bern:

Idolent, that’s awesome, Fauci speaking at the Milken Institute.

Unfortunately, at 480p the speech is unintelligible and there are no subtitles.
One reason why I don’t listen to Rumble.
Have tried to discuss this with them, but it’s easier to piss on a fly in a public urinal.

Bar Beach Swimmer
October 8, 2021 6:23 pm

The only drums we beat are for justice and freedom – freedom for all people

From Tony Abbott’s speech in Taiwan.

Pity from what we’re seeing here those democratic attributes now are rare in Australia.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 8, 2021 6:23 pm

I warned you about 2021..
I warned you all….
Whos laughing now!!!

‘If there is a God, this is what he put us on Earth to do’: the unlikely return of Tears for Fears

Tears for Fears’ single The Tipping Point is out now. The album follows in February 2022.

MatrixTransform
October 8, 2021 6:29 pm

The Homebuyer Fund is a shared equity scheme in which the government makes a financial contribution to the purchase price, in exchange for a proportional interest, or share, in the property.

Victorian home-buyer fund announced

what could possibly go wrong?

Tom
Tom
October 8, 2021 6:29 pm

From my brother, whose partner runs a (very successful) restaurant in Grovedale, a Geelong suburb:

In the next few days, the Andrews regime will be demanding that all small businesses will be smashed with crippling fines if they try to employ anyone was hasn’t had at least one of the experimental Kung Flu vaccines. The fine for employees: $21,000 per employee. The fine for businesses: $54,000 per employer.

Big and small businesses are fleeing Victoria in a stampede to jurisdictioms that don’t hate them like the regime set up in Melbourne by a Marxist parasite who’s never had a real job.

dopey
dopey
October 8, 2021 6:31 pm

Immunocompromised….I knew they’d catch me one day.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
October 8, 2021 6:33 pm

Cassie of Sydneysays:
October 8, 2021 at 6:08 pm
“Bu then it was “into a nearby phone booth… It’s Credibility Self-Destruction Man!!!””

I’ve also come to the conclusion that Credlin didn’t help him.

I’ve never been quite sure whether she was a toxic destructive psychopath or whether she deserves an Order of Australia for keeping the slapstick clown troupe from being even more of a national catastrophe than they actually were.
Maybe both.

rickw
rickw
October 8, 2021 6:33 pm

I think that rickw was groping for a single word, rather than a phrase. He spies with his little eye, something beginning with “f”.

That’s the one!

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 8, 2021 6:35 pm

Lancet doesnt just jump the shark.
It pops on some Barry White, changes into something more comfortable and slips some roofies into its rum and coke.
The shark wakes up sticky and screaming later on with an explainable gap in its memory and a sore arse.

There is a ‘Lancet planetary health” in existence now.
Devoted to
Live in the Pod
Eat the bugs
Own nothing and be happy.

https://www.theguardian.com/food/2021/oct/08/cuts-uk-meat-consumption-doubled-health-researchers-food
Britons have cut their meat consumption by 17% over the past decade but will need to double these efforts if they are to meet targets for healthy diets and sustainable food production set out in the national food strategy earlier this year.

Meat production is a major contributor to global heating and land degradation, while eating lots of red and processed meat has been linked to a greater risk of developing cardiovascular disease, type 2 diabetes and certain types of cancer.

For these reasons, the government-commissioned national food strategy for England recently recommended that people try to cut their meat consumption by about 30% within the next decade.

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To understand how much meat people in the UK are currently eating, Cristina Stewart, a health behaviours researcher at the University of Oxford, and colleagues turned to dietary data recorded in the National Diet and Nutrition Survey. This annual exercise involves asking a nationally representative sample of the population to keep a food diary for four consecutive days.

The analysis, published in the journal Lancet Planetary Health, found that between 2008-9 and 2018-19 participants’ average meat consumption decreased from about 103g per person a day to 86g, a reduction of about 17g or 17%. This is equivalent to eating roughly two and a half fewer pork sausages each week.

JC
JC
October 8, 2021 6:35 pm

Just a quick search – no picture of the ‘UN ambulance’ and the “Threatening Soldier.”
Any available?

Not much different to your scenario, remember? I fucking do.

Nurse Betty, how about Chinese soldiers being flown into Tullamarine that you “scenarialized” some while ago on the old Cat? How that scenario going, you complete idiot. You turtle head.

You were told on the old Cat to stay away, after you laughingly threatened legal action either against Sinclair or myself for being mocked. Being mocked with you existing under an alias. Stay away and don’t try to run with posses like you did a couple of days ago with Faulty 2.

Also, don’t grovel. I have zero interest in anything you have to say and less than zero interacting with you because I don’t respect any opinion you post. Nothing. However, I will retaliate at my leisure when you try to pull a posse stunt like that. Just stop trying to interact with me and fuck right off, you ridiculous clown.

Don’t think for a second your attempts to join posses here won’t be met with a harsher reaction, you pathetic wimp.

JC
JC
October 8, 2021 6:40 pm

And Lastly… Ranga, you wouldn’t dare ram another car as a reaction to what I posted. You’d do what a disturbing number of Australians do. You dob .

calli
calli
October 8, 2021 6:41 pm

Tom, it looks like businesses, medium and small (and maybe even corporates), are being issued with a loyalty test.

This is how they discover previously unidentified class enemies.

The corporates have already folded of course. The tiddlers will be picked off and destroyed. What Vic will look like in the next few years might be like what I saw in St Petersburg – approved shopfronts, bright and shiny on the main street and a down at heel crumbling ruin on the blocks behind.

MatrixTransform
October 8, 2021 6:42 pm

Big and small businesses are fleeing Victoria in a stampede

Business is being given the choice to comply or die

sounds like people are finally waking up to this reality

MatrixTransform
October 8, 2021 6:42 pm

snap Calli

Roger
Roger
October 8, 2021 6:45 pm

…but it really looked like six months in he just gave up.

Demoralisation.

JC
JC
October 8, 2021 6:45 pm

You have to follow the “roadmap”, Calli. Only the “roadmap” supported by the “ring of steel” in a “short and fast lockdown”* where “we make no apology for keeping people safe” will get us out of the lockdown.

* one year old.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 8, 2021 6:45 pm

Police officer giving evidence to a murder trial that “he’s an appalling shot.” What’s he doing carrying a weapon, FFS?

Geraldton police shooting murder trial: Officer ‘tried to talk JC down’
Emily Moulton
The West Australian
Fri, 8 October 2021 2:27PM
Emily Moulton

A police officer who tried to disarm an Aboriginal woman who was fatally shot in a Geraldton street did not draw his weapons because he wanted to talk her down, a WA court has been told

Senior Constable Adrian Barker told the Supreme Court trial of one of his colleagues, who is accused of murdering Yamatji woman JC, that he felt communication was a better tactic to use rather than force.

“Guns or a firearm or even a Taser, pepper spray, for me, I feel they are barrier to communication,” he said when asked by Director of Public Prosecutions Amanda Forrester SC about why he did not draw a weapon.

“I was trying to get her (JC) to drop it (the knife). I was aware others officers were there to assist me… and I am an appalling shot.”

Snr Const. Barker was one of eight police officers who swarmed Petchell Street in Rangeway where JC was seen carrying a knife and scissors on September 17, 2019.

Makka
Makka
October 8, 2021 6:48 pm

The corporates have already folded of course.

The Corps are driving this. They have been pressing for a Govt mandate for months so they have the backup to enforce vaccinations AND record collection of employees.

shatterzzz
October 8, 2021 6:50 pm

Well here we go .. didn’t take long for the gummint to start shifting the goalposts on opening up! .. and there are folk that thought a new head might be different from the old one ………
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-08/nsw-today-no-daytrips-allowed-public-health-order-amended/100523138

calli
calli
October 8, 2021 6:52 pm

The resulting vacuum will allow “approved” businesses and their owners to cash in – services will still be required, those coffees and pastries will still be desired.

But, as is the way with the grey landscape of socialism, the coffee will be watered down and the pastries will be stale.

This is Dan’s Brave New World.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 8, 2021 6:54 pm

Mother Lode at 2.22, and apropos of the Kez-Wah:

Covsmeller Pursuivant

Cackle.

JC
JC
October 8, 2021 6:57 pm

What an excellent op-ed in the WSJ. Should be called, the Tyranny of the mob.

The Tyranny of the 21st-Century Crowd
Mobs that form from the bottom up may prove even harder to defeat than totalitarian regimes.
By Robert D. Kaplan

A Communist rally in Berlin, 1918.
Photo: Hulton-Deutsch Collection/Corbis via Getty Images

The mass ideologies of the 20th century, Nazism and communism, represented a profound abasement of reason. Yet those ideologies reveal more than we’d like to admit about our own political extremes.

Nazism and communism had multiple origins. The U.S. diplomat Robert Strausz-Hupé (1903-2002), a foreign-policy realist, believed it was symbolically no accident that Karl Marx and Frederick Engels published their “Communist Manifesto” in 1848, the year of Europe’s failed democratic revolutions and the last time that liberalism and nationalism “fought on the same side of the barricades.” Had that rupture not occurred—had the 1848 uprisings succeeded across the Continent—there might have been no World War I and consequently no Vladimir Lenin and no Adolf Hitler.
Opinion: Potomac Watch

But there was something even more fundamental than the close-run failure of 1848 that wrought the ideological horrors of the 20th century: technology. The tens of millions of the “dispossessed of the Industrial Revolution,” in Strausz-Hupé’s words, became mindless foot-soldiers to class and racial warfare, abetted by the new force of mass media. It’s impossible to imagine Hitler and Stalin except against the backdrop of industrialization, which wrought everything from tanks and railways to radio and newsreels. Propaganda, after all, has a distinct 20th-century resonance, integral to communications technology.

Technology has kept evolving, so that the roots of our present crisis lie in what went wrong in the 20th century. Nazism and communism shared two decisive elements: the safety of the crowd and the yearning for purity. In “Crowds and Power,” first published in German in 1960, Elias Canetti may have written the most intuitive book about the crisis of the West over the past 100 years. Oswald Spengler’s “The Decline of the West” argues that Western civilization, like all civilizations, is ultimately ephemeral, but Canetti’s book shows the actual mechanics.

The crowd, Canetti says, emerges from the need of the lonely individual to conform with others. Because he can’t exert dominance on his own, he exerts it through a crowd that speaks with one voice. The crowd’s urge is always to grow, consuming all hierarchies, even as it feels persecuted and demands retribution. The crowd sees itself as entirely pure, having attained the highest virtue.

Thus, one aim of the crowd is to hunt down the insufficiently virtuous. The tyranny of the crowd has many aspects, but Canetti says its most blatant form is that of the “questioner,” and the accuser. “When used as an intrusion of power,” the accusing crowd “is like a knife cutting into the flesh of the victim. The questioner knows what there is to find, but he wants actually to touch it and bring it to light.”

There are strong echoes of this in Aldous Huxley’s “Brave New World” and George Orwell’s “1984,” and particularly in Hannah Arendt’s “The Origins of Totalitarianism.” But Canetti isolates crowd psychology as an intellectual subject all its own. Crowds have existed since the dawn of time. But modern technology—first radio and newspapers, now Twitter and Facebook —has created untold vistas for the tyranny of the crowd. That tyranny, born of an assemblage of lonely people, has as its goal the destruction of the individual, whose existence proves his lack of virtue in the eyes of the crowd.

There is a difference, however, between the 20th and 21st centuries. The 20th century was an age of mass communications often controlled by big governments, so that ideology and its attendant intimidation was delivered from the top down. The 21st century has produced an inversion, whereby individuals work through digital networks to gather together from the bottom up.

But while the tyranny produced has a different style, it has a similar result: the intimidation of dissent through a professed monopoly on virtue. If you don’t agree with us, you are not only wrong but morally wanting, and as such should be not only denounced but destroyed. Remember, both Nazism and communism were utopian ideologies. In the minds of their believers they were systems of virtue, and precisely because of that they opened up new vistas for tyranny.

Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union were defeated by U.S. military and industrial power. Civilizations rest not only on intellectual and cultural foundations but also on coarser aspects of strength and power. The historic West, which is ultimately about the freedom of the individual to rise above the crowd, survived the 20th century thanks to American hard power, itself maintained by a system of individual excellence in the arts and sciences, in turn nurtured by an independent and diverse media. But that media is now becoming immersed in the crowd, where it demands virtue in its purest ideological form, so that much of the media too often plays the role of Canetti’s accuser.

The lust for purity combined with the tyranny of social-media technology in the hands of the young—who have little sense of the past and of tradition—threatens to create an era of the most fearsome mobs in history. The upshot of such crowd coercion is widespread self-censorship: the cornerstone of all forms of totalitarianism.

This ultimately leads toward a controlled society driven by the bland, the trivial and the mundane, wearing the lobotomized face of CNN weekday afternoon television. Outright evil can surely be dealt with, but a self-righteous conformity is harder to resist. Left unchecked, this is how the West slowly dies.

The brilliant 19th-century Russian intellectual Alexander Herzen, anticipating Spengler and writing in the wake of the failed 1848 democratic revolutions, delivered perhaps the most pessimistic of warnings:

“Modern Western thought will pass into history and be incorporated in it, will have its influence and its place, just as our body will pass into the composition of grass, of sheep, of cutlets, and of men. We do not like that kind of immortality, but what is to be done about it?”

That is what we are up against. As globalization naturally plunges the West into the crosscurrents of other civilizations, and extreme forms of identity politics trample the rights of the individual, historic liberalism has the task of infinitely postponing Herzen’s vision. Historic liberalism, as the champion of individual agency, delivers a rebuke to all ideologies and to the fate Herzen had in mind. The direction of history is unknowable, thus we have no choice but to fight on. After all, 1848 was not a foregone conclusion.

Mr. Kaplan holds a chair in geopolitics at the Foreign Policy Research Institute and is author, most recently, of “The Good American: The Epic Life of Bob Gersony, the U.S. Government’s Greatest Humanitarian.”

Canetti’s book sounds like an excellent read.

2dogs
October 8, 2021 6:58 pm

Legal question: Concerning this, could Zoom itself be found guilty of contempt of parliament as a result?

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 8, 2021 6:58 pm

Rumor has it that cop chap may be known to me.
Rumor also has it yes, he is an appalling shot with anything, and loathes and detests the paperwork involved in a tazer use.
Rumor also has it he was the one who dealt with he during a similar episode a couple of weeks before where she was locked up, successfully it might be added.
Rumor also has it hes a very good martial artist.

Allegedly*

*This may be complete fabrication

who swarmed
I wonder if the ABCcess would use such loaded language if 8 police attended their offices because someone with a knife was wandering in the foyer??

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 8, 2021 6:59 pm

Wow!
Just saw six Vatican Swiss Guards get out of a Humvee in Winchelsea.
It had “UN Big Reset Squad” on the door.
What is that about?

That’s nothing. I was on the way home from work and saw eight Starship Troopers rapelling from a USMC Osprey painted up to look like a 737.

The only giveaway was the Mortal Kombat sign on the tail.

The Starship guys were wearing camouflage gear*, and landed on top of a milk bar. ‘There’s trouble afoot’, I thought. ‘Probably something to do with popery.’

*Despite this, I could see them.

sfw
sfw
October 8, 2021 7:00 pm

“I saw “Vaxed” caps for sale at a Druggist”

Druggist? I’ve never heard that word used anywhere in Australia, where are you? It’s always been ‘Chemist’ or ‘Pharmacist’. Please tell me you live some tiny part of Adelaide that breeds serial killers and people who use expressions unknown anywhere else in this wide brown oppressed, crushed land. A place where everyone has hyphenated names and perversions.

Tom
Tom
October 8, 2021 7:02 pm

Calli, having lost the contest of ideas, the political left globally has retreated to the only thing it knows that works: divide and conquer.

Roger
Roger
October 8, 2021 7:02 pm

Big and small businesses are fleeing Victoria in a stampede to jurisdictioms that don’t hate them like the regime set up in Melbourne by a Marxist parasite who’s never had a real job.

Will the last productive person to leave Victoria please advise those who remain that it’s OK…the Commonwealth (i.e. the other states) will pick up the tab for Andrews’s incompetence in perpetuity.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 8, 2021 7:04 pm

Lancet doesnt just jump the shark.

The Lancet editor is an Extinction Rebellionista.
Which pretty much takes Gramsci to twilight zone level.

JC
JC
October 8, 2021 7:06 pm

Nazism and communism had multiple origins. The U.S. diplomat Robert Strausz-Hupé (1903-2002), a foreign-policy realist, believed it was symbolically no accident that Karl Marx and Frederick Engels published their “Communist Manifesto” in 1848, the year of Europe’s failed democratic revolutions and the last time that liberalism and nationalism “fought on the same side of the barricades.”

Does anyone know about these “failed democratic revolutions” in ~1848? Of course, Germany was one example, but who else?

Indolent
Indolent
October 8, 2021 7:09 pm

All who get their third injection will be superior people allowed to do amazing stuff like going to restaurants. Doublers may visit Maccas drive through and the dirty unvaxxed will have to eat grass and dirt.

Should surprise no one. We’ve had the Israeli example before us the whole time, after all. This is what people just don’t seem to grasp. There’s no end to it. Once this sort of system is in place, your “freedoms” can disappear in an instant pending compliance with some new commandment.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 8, 2021 7:10 pm

callisays:
October 8, 2021 at 6:52 pm
The resulting vacuum will…

….be filled by migrants with good credit ratings amazed at the gaping holes in the Australian market, and the weird availability of people who used to do just that job…

And in 10 years time the government will release a report saying how wonderfully entrepreneurial the “new Australians” are compared to the just coming out of bankruptcy/ruin stale old Aussies.

Indolent
Indolent
October 8, 2021 7:11 pm

I sent a particularly blunt, crude and simple one today, got a response with 30 minutes.

Please, do share what it takes to get them going.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 8, 2021 7:11 pm

could Zoom itself be found guilty of contempt of parliament as a result?

No.
Zoom is controlled by a country with 350 nukes and a really bad-ass attitude.

areff
areff
October 8, 2021 7:11 pm

France, you can still see the bullet marks in the wall at at Pere Lachase where the communards were stood up to get what was good for them.

Italy, where local insurrections flared and came to not much until Garibaldi arrived (a remarkable man for getting Italians to cooperate)

They were all over shop, 1848 revolutions, even in the Nordic countries.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
October 8, 2021 7:12 pm

Just a quick search – no picture of the ‘UN ambulance’ and the “Threatening Soldier.”
Any available?

LOL.

Gab referenced above they were Bushmasters heading for testing, no UN markings regrettably. Last Refuge has this up, so mystery solved remembering Narribri is on the Newell hwy:

https://twitter.com/ChaChaC87311797/status/1446049031214407683

As for soldiers in Bendigo. Relative I texted today was miffed. However he lives out towards Axedale.

calli
calli
October 8, 2021 7:13 pm

That’s possible too, Mole.

I was thinking of well connected types who couldn’t run a chook raffle suddenly gifted an overpriced under-delivering “approved” business underwritten by the State.

Dot
Dot
October 8, 2021 7:15 pm

Druggists, quacks and troopers.

I have lost all respect for these professions over the last two years.

rosie
rosie
October 8, 2021 7:18 pm

Tim Soutphommasane at smh i don’t think it’s paywalled.

left behind progressives need to catch up with Perrottet and stop being afraid of freedom

rickw
rickw
October 8, 2021 7:19 pm

Vaccine Mandates and Emergency Powers

Dear Robin,

You fucking arseholes need to stop.

You pricks won’t get near government for 100 years even if the Liberals continue to be useless.

Yours Sincerely,

Rickw

Call me, I would love to chat to you about this insanity.

Diogenes
Diogenes
October 8, 2021 7:20 pm

Does anyone know about these “failed democratic revolutions” in ~1848? Of course, Germany was one example, but who else?

More than a dozen for the full list here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolutions_of_1848

The most notable are France , Spain and the Austro-Hungarian empire. My family were directly affected by the reforms that included Hunagry taking over Transylvania, and therefore the family lost influence and the abolution of serfdom meant a hit to teh family finances.

cohenite
October 8, 2021 7:22 pm

Legal question: Concerning this, could Zoom itself be found guilty of contempt of parliament as a result?

Sounds like pollie incompetence which is contemptible but not actionable; in this case. Procedural rules however would mean the vote must be retaken.

cohenite
October 8, 2021 7:23 pm

My family were directly affected by the reforms that included Hungary taking over Transylvania,

So, you’re a vampire.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
October 8, 2021 7:29 pm

It’s not just businesses who are gunning for the unvaccinated.
My surf club has announced a re-opening from next Monday for the fully vaxxed only.
Proof of full vaccination status will be required, as well as the use of masks and QR coding.

It’s not often that a surf club asks to see your health status. And log it into their computer records. (NB the email system was hacked very recently). And gives other club members the right to check your health status. And bars entry depending on your vaccination status.

It is pure discrimination. At least Rosa Parks was allowed on the bus.

Bastards.

duncanm
duncanm
October 8, 2021 7:34 pm

rickwsays:
October 8, 2021 at 6:15 pm
I have sent several emails to my local member over the last 18 months. I never got a reply or response.

I sent a particularly blunt, crude and simple one today, got a response with 30 minute

yeh I sent a blunt one to my local members (state, fed) a month or so back. Got a personal response from one, and even an invite to a Scottie town hall.

Didn’t get to open my mouth on the call, though.

Cassie of Sydney
October 8, 2021 7:37 pm

“Tomsays:
October 8, 2021 at 7:02 pm
Calli, having lost the contest of ideas, the political left globally has retreated to the only thing it knows that works: divide and conquer.”

They’re succeeding Tom.

Bruce in WA
October 8, 2021 7:37 pm

Australia to roll out third shots of vaccine for immunocompromised people (8 Oct)

According to my cardiologist, it’s a lay-down misère that everyone will be required to have a booster shot in Oz, no matter what vaccine they’ve had.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 8, 2021 7:42 pm

Sounds like pollie incompetence

I doubt the Chinese much care about Welsh politics, but then they just might.

Vaccine Passports Passed in Welsh Parliament by One Vote After Tory Couldn’t Log in to Zoom Chat (6 Oct)

Anyone who doesn’t think Zoom is controlled by the CCP is naive.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
October 8, 2021 7:45 pm

Diogenessays:
October 8, 2021 at 7:20 pm

“… the abolution of serfdom meant a hit to teh family finances.”

Sort of like if the Shoppies union stopped selling their workers into poverty in return for employers forcing them to pay union fees out of their reduced wages.
Were your ancestors trade union officials?

Roger
Roger
October 8, 2021 7:48 pm

Druggists, quacks and troopers.

I have lost all respect for these professions over the last two years.

You never told us you’d migrated to New Jersey.

How’d you manage to escape?

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