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Indolent
Indolent
October 9, 2021 6:40 pm

Whatever could be causing this? It’s a mystery.

https://www.rintrah.nl/too-many-people-are-dying-and-its-starting-to-worry-the-demographers/

From the article –

So here’s the question to be asking ourselves: What’s causing the excess deaths? For this we can again turn to England. The excess deaths are found in the following categories: Ischemic heart disease, cerebrovascular disease, heart failure, other circulatory disorders and a small number of chronic respiratory disease cases. In other words, we’re seeing mainly cardiovascular problems. Almost all of the excess deaths can be attributed to this.

So what could be the cause? Well, the canary in the coalmine are unfortunately our own teenage boys. In the period when the COVID-19 vaccines began to be administered to teenage boys in England, deaths among teenage boys were up by 63%, compared to 16% in teenage girls.

This is what our governments are pushing here. On this data, this is intentional murder.

JC
JC
October 9, 2021 6:42 pm

Lol Miss A. I was just messing around earlier.

JC
JC
October 9, 2021 6:45 pm

For the 15 to 44 age group the excess mortality shown is MORE in ’21 than in ’20.

What does that stat have to do with this, which is contained in Faulty2’s link.

You can see for yourself the excess mortality for much of the EU here. Few people realize that in 2021 we have had as much excess mortality, as we did in 2020.

It’s wrong. But why bother with a tiny little inaccuracy like that, right? 🙂

Zipster
Zipster
October 9, 2021 6:47 pm
JC
JC
October 9, 2021 6:48 pm

Where’s Doc B?

Doc, does this qualify as abuse or high level debating … in your learned opinion. Try to pretend you’ve read this rather than being too busy on the phone to the gal in Havana.

Eyrie says:
October 9, 2021 at 6:19 pm

JC, I just posted a link with a question. Add in last weeks story of the 25% increase in heart attacks in west Scotland. The linked article says what it says. You are free to draw your own conclusions.
I’m sorry you can’t stand the thought that you took the vax because you were lied to. Your problem is that you are a Statist. You believe the government is looking after your best interests. They don’t care about you or if you live or die. Neither do I, nor I suspect, do a growing number of those who post here.

Thefrollickingmole
Thefrollickingmole
October 9, 2021 6:48 pm
Indolent
Indolent
October 9, 2021 6:51 pm

Ground Report – Unvaccinated Life in Lithuania Without a COVID Passport
October 8, 2021 | Sundance

This could be our future, if we let it.

Arky
October 9, 2021 6:53 pm

JCsays:
October 9, 2021 at 6:45 pm

..
It’s not my job to defend him.
I commented on the link.
You don’t think that in Europe in 2021, excess mortality for 15 to 44 isn’t just more than the baseline, but more than it was in 2020?
If true, it means something.

Arky
October 9, 2021 6:53 pm

if

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
October 9, 2021 6:55 pm

JCsays:
October 9, 2021 at 6:45 pm

You can see for yourself the excess mortality for much of the EU here. Few people realize that in 2021 we have had as much excess mortality, as we did in 2020.

It’s wrong. But why bother with a tiny little inaccuracy like that, right?
****
JC, how do you square that with your own Eurostat link?

See my 6.31 comment.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 9, 2021 6:56 pm

Thefrollickingmolesays:

October 9, 2021 at 5:54 pm

Hadn’t seen this mentioned.
A noodle armed pigeon chested jihadi got himself into strife. A familiar name.

Wasn’t Junaid Thorne the ABC’s go-to guy for a while?
That beautiful amalgam of victimology – aboriginal and moosley.

srr
srr
October 9, 2021 6:58 pm

John H.says:
October 9, 2021 at 2:40 pm

Nissan’s “intelligent factory” hardly has any human workers. The robots do the work, including welding and mounting. They do the paint jobs and inspect their own paint jobs.

One of my jobs in my youthful travels was as an inspector at a metal finishers.
My instructions were, “Send back anything you wouldn’t buy.”
I sent back a LOT!

At first my workmates were mightily pissed with me but as my workload was stalled waiting for their re-dos I went to help them with their jobs and they started doing a better job to avoid the re-dos.

Quality went up all round as well as production numbers, while work stress lowered to the point of being a somewhere people looked forward to going every day.

The Owners/Bosses where wonderful people.

When I had to return to my home State for family reasons, they begged me to come back.
I couldn’t, but if I was older & wiser at the time I would have moved mountains to get back there.

I’ve since learned that that sort of business & human integrity is so rare as to be genuinely precious & to be treasured.
Not because it will vanish one day but because it’s what seeds it’s return & flourishing.

Zipster
Zipster
October 9, 2021 7:00 pm

We’re Going to Have Another Great Depression.

I can’t remember if it was this video but on this channel the host made the claim that the level of money printing by governments now is unprecedented and very dangerous. Published one month ago.

there’s a lot catastropharians predicting doom and gloom. Watch the former phil fed president video I posted above. He doesn’t know how the fed is going to get out of the hole it has dug for itself. Add to that china trying to send in some heavy duty financial contagion. Who knows what is going to happen.

Thefrollickingmole
Thefrollickingmole
October 9, 2021 7:01 pm

Sancho

Encapsulated perfectly here.
https://www.sbs.com.au/guide/video/36956227646/Exclusive-Junaid-Thorne-speaks-to-NITV

Seen to recall he was on snow cone Tones show on the ABCcess as well

JC
JC
October 9, 2021 7:03 pm

Add in last weeks story of the 25% increase in heart attacks in west Scotland.

Even this is innumerate dangerously misleading crap posted by an absolutist loon .

This 25% increase was from blocked arteries type of heart attack. It’s nothing to do with the vax and all to do with smoking, eating badly and avoiding statins.

The increase was 60 additional people going from 240 to 300. That’s very likely a statistical cluster.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/mystery-rise-in-heart-attacks-from-blocked-arteries-m253drrnf

Everything this fruitcake posts is easy to debunk dishonest crap. He’s a terrible liar.

It’s now 0/5

JC
JC
October 9, 2021 7:05 pm

It’s not my job to defend him.
I commented on the link.
You don’t think that in Europe in 2021, excess mortality for 15 to 44 isn’t just more than the baseline, but more than it was in 2020?
If true, it means something.

Of course you are, otherwise you’d recognize the comment from his link that I’ve posted twice making the incorrect comment that 21 is higher than 20 without a single attribution to age bands.

Rabz
October 9, 2021 7:09 pm

Birdwatching is Racist, Imperialist, and Homophobic

Bluddee hell – do not watch this video, peoples … 🙂

Arky
October 9, 2021 7:09 pm

Of course you are,

..
Discuss his typo with him.
I’m not interested.

MatrixTransform
October 9, 2021 7:10 pm

(You need to scroll down about a third)

yep

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
October 9, 2021 7:10 pm

Where’s Doc B?

Doc, does this qualify as abuse or high level debating … in your learned opinion.

He’s just responding to you in your own style, JC.

rickw
rickw
October 9, 2021 7:13 pm

So the state can’t force vaxes on a huge segment of its own workforce but can on people not employed by them.

It’s completely disgusting.

rickw
rickw
October 9, 2021 7:17 pm

Memology, police resignation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0B_CYLPP_vE

JC
JC
October 9, 2021 7:17 pm

He’s just responding to you in your own style, JC.

LOl.. No mind-reading and dishonesty there, is there, Doc? You’d better get back to the phone call as you’re not making any sense.

John H.
John H.
October 9, 2021 7:20 pm

Another fight. That’s this forum done for today.

Rabz
October 9, 2021 7:21 pm

For poor ol’ Pol Dot, languishing as he is in the fastness of his Kampuchean jungle … 😕

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
October 9, 2021 7:21 pm

JCsays:
October 9, 2021 at 7:17 pm

The real issue is that you’ve beclowned yourself by totally misreading your own Eurostat link.

Arky
October 9, 2021 7:23 pm

Mary Tyler Moore Show:
All dead now-

Genre Sitcom
Created by James L. Brooks
Allan Burns
Starring Mary Tyler Moore
Edward Asner
Gavin MacLeod
Ted Knight
Valerie Harper
Cloris Leachman
Georgia Engel
Betty White

Arky
October 9, 2021 7:23 pm

Three of ’em carked it this year.
2021 Mary Tyler Moore reunion not a goer.

Rabz
October 9, 2021 7:24 pm

Bluddee hell – is poor ol’ JC being subjected to the cruel barbs of fate (or something) – it’s not right, peoples 😕

JC
JC
October 9, 2021 7:25 pm

They don’t care about you or if you live or die. Neither do I, nor I suspect, do a growing number of those who post here.

Faulty2 speaks for everyone else here too. Wow

Faulty2, when you end up getting covid and you will because everyone will end up getting it.. and you’re in the ICU in Brisbane see if my niece in law is looking when you’re choking on your own blood that you just vomited. She’s an ICU specialist there. Ask her to get my phone and and to give it to you as I’d share a laugh. You ill-intentioned dick.

Rabz
October 9, 2021 7:27 pm

err, Arks – are you (or have you ever been) a fan of the MTM Show?

MatrixTransform
October 9, 2021 7:29 pm

if you compare January

sorry nah, need to junk January.

the data itself is mis-represented in the graphs
three years running there were zero excess deaths in Jan
can’t get past that.

the only interesting thing is the 2020 rise from w10 to w20
but since data is already misrepresented, then I have reject it all as bullshit

for fun, use the sliders to watch the graphs get FUBAR

JC
JC
October 9, 2021 7:30 pm

The real issue is that you’ve beclowned yourself by totally misreading your own Eurostat link.

Neilson, you’re really bad at this stuff and ought to give it away.

Honestly, after the cake incident it’s not really worth having serious discussion with you. But please, don’t let me stop you persevering as one day you could fluke being right for once.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 9, 2021 7:31 pm

Finally.

I’ve been complaining for yonks about the lack of oligarchy here. Wiki:

A business leader can be considered an oligarch if the following conditions are satisfied:

1. uses monopolistic tactics to dominate an industry;
2. possesses sufficient political power to promote their own interests;
3. controls multiple businesses, which intensively coordinate their activities.

As a boy I yearned to be an oligarch. Was voted Most Likely Oligarch and everything.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 9, 2021 7:33 pm

Its like the curse of Dads Army all over again.

“A malevolent cicada”..

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
October 9, 2021 7:35 pm

JCsays:
October 9, 2021 at 7:30 pm
The real issue is that you’ve beclowned yourself by totally misreading your own Eurostat link.

Neilson, you’re really bad at this stuff and ought to give it away.

I’m perfectly happy for anyone to read my 6.31 comment then check your link and see for themselves.

srr
srr
October 9, 2021 7:36 pm

Hello Everybody!
Dr JC now does Dirty Dan & Co.’s Advertising For Them!

And if you believe for one second that he does it for free, let alone out of the goodness of his heart, God help you –

“JC says:
October 9, 2021 at 7:25 pm

‘They don’t care about you or if you live or die. Neither do I, nor I suspect, do a growing number of those who post here.’

Faulty2 speaks for everyone else here too. Wow

Faulty2, when you end up getting covid and you will because everyone will end up getting it.. and you’re in the ICU in Brisbane see if my niece in law is looking when you’re choking on your own blood that you just vomited. She’s an ICU specialist there. Ask her to get my phone and and to give it to you as I’d share a laugh. You ill-intentioned dick.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 9, 2021 7:37 pm

you’re choking on your own blood that you just vomited

Im going to have to correct you there.

Its general bodily fluids, largely phlegm and puss and muck, not blood you will drown in.
If you are unlucky it wont be your own.

Arky
October 9, 2021 7:37 pm

Rabzsays:
October 9, 2021 at 7:27 pm
err, Arks – are you (or have you ever been) a fan of the MTM Show?

..
I was five.

Rabz
October 9, 2021 7:40 pm

I was five

And watching it mouth agape, evidently.

Arky
October 9, 2021 7:41 pm
cohenite
October 9, 2021 7:41 pm

Mary Tyler Moore Show:
All dead now-

That’s nothing, Bessie Love is gone.

Winston Smith
October 9, 2021 7:41 pm

Dot:

Of the two, the Brig’s and above from the arms Corps were the most destructive. A certain high heels favouring infantryman was influential.

So how far down will the Purge of The Marshall’s need to go?
Brigadiers are toast – that’s an easy call.
Colonels & up?
Lt Colonels?
Majors? Some may be OK.

srr
srr
October 9, 2021 7:42 pm

Google –
“nurses in icu telling of covid patients begging for vaccine”

and see yet more reasons JC can’t be trusted as anything more than an invested Jab Pusher.

JC
JC
October 9, 2021 7:42 pm

Neilson

I’m perfectly happy for anyone to read my 6.31 comment then check your link and see for themselves.

I did and after reading this nonsense

Actually if you compare January – July 2020 to January-July 2021 in your Eurostat link, there probably have been more excess deaths in that period in 2021.

… is what I’d expect from a donkey.
It’s actually a version of the cake bullshit you were spinning about the cake and the icing. It’s Homer Paxton level. You look and the entire year of 2020 and average it out. You look at the entire year completed in 21 so far and average it out.

Seriously, it’s donkey analysis, which is why I avoided commenting as I didn’t want to hurt your feelings one more time.

cohenite
October 9, 2021 7:44 pm
Rabz
October 9, 2021 7:44 pm

That Goil … 😕

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
October 9, 2021 7:47 pm

You look and the entire year of 2020 and average it out. You look at the entire year completed in 21 so far and average it out.

Seriously, it’s donkey analysis, which is why I avoided commenting as I didn’t want to hurt your feelings one more time.

Why would you do that? Why not compare like with like? That’s the usual approach for people trying to get things right.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 9, 2021 7:48 pm

Its general bodily fluids, largely phlegm and puss and muck, not blood you will drown in.

Thanks mole.
It’s always good to have something to look forward to.

JC
JC
October 9, 2021 7:48 pm

cohenite says:
October 9, 2021 at 7:44 pm

WTF is going on:

Vaxxed population, more liberty and therefore more people catching Covid. Don’t ever look at a stat/chart like that without also demanding the mortality rate. I think 3 or 4 people died of covid in Sing so far in October.

Rabz
October 9, 2021 7:50 pm

The MTM theme sounds like a very poor rip off of this classic

Arky
October 9, 2021 7:51 pm

I think 3 or 4 people died of covid in Sing so far in October.

.
No.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/singapore/

cohenite
October 9, 2021 7:51 pm

Cossack released after being charging with exercising; bail conditions are onerous. This is fucking terrible.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOWISX0c7vo

JC
JC
October 9, 2021 7:52 pm

Why would you do that?

Because it’s more honest and accurate. January /February 2020 was when Covid began to make its entrance in the west.

Why not compare like with like?

Because you wouldn’t be.

That’s the usual approach for people trying to get things right.

Seasonality isn’t much of a thing when the virus was starting out in January – February 2020

It’s donkey analysis and you shouldn’t be doing anything with numbers. It’s not your strength.

Baba
Baba
October 9, 2021 7:53 pm

cohenitesays:
October 9, 2021 at 7:44 pm
WTF is going on:

https://twitter.com/DrEliDavid/status/1446570012966363146?s=20

And

Prime Minister Scott Morrison announces the international border will reopen next month for states that have reached 80 per cent vaccination rates

Uh, huh. Sure.

Miss Anthropist
Miss Anthropist
October 9, 2021 7:54 pm

Hmmmmm.
It seems everyone involved in the first smallpox inoculations is dead.
When will all this madness end?

Zipster
Zipster
October 9, 2021 7:54 pm
rickw
rickw
October 9, 2021 7:55 pm

Best pig shooting video you will ever see:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOqkxWmOW90

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
October 9, 2021 7:56 pm

Achieving world class self-beclownment isn’t just a matter of being wrong. That can happen to anyone.
You need the trifecta:
(a) burst onto the thread like Yosemite Sam into the saloon in a Bugs Bunny cartoon;
(b) double and treble down on the BIIIIIG statement;
(c ) then get proved wrong.

JC’s got it down to a fine art. Let’s re-roll the tape.
JCsays:
October 9, 2021 at 5:14 pm

Yep, (a) ticked off. Don’t check the link, that will spoil the fun.
For (b), pour yourself a single malt, light a cigar, pull up a chair and keep scrolling for things like this
JCsays:
October 9, 2021 at 5:30 pm
There’s no mystery because the excess deaths in 21 is lower than 20.

Now look at the link at JC’s 5.14 comment. The data goes only to July 2021. It’s crystal clear that there’s more excess mortality in Jan-July 201 than there was in Jan-July 2020.

Now that’s how you do self-beclownment.

(If I understand Matrix correctly he’s saying JC’s link is a load of shit. Well, if so, that doesn’t haul JC out of the mire of excrement he dropped himself into.)

srr
srr
October 9, 2021 7:57 pm

Timothy Neilson says:
October 9, 2021 at 7:35 pm

JC says:
October 9, 2021 at 7:30 pm
The real issue is that you’ve beclowned yourself by totally misreading your own Eurostat link.

Neilson, you’re really bad at this stuff and ought to give it away.

I’m perfectly happy for anyone to read my 6.31 comment then check your link and see for themselves.

JC & others rely on most people not scrolling back to see what details they’ve missed, so they, JC et al, simply keep piling blustering lie on top of blustering lie, hoping to crush the simple truth under a tonne of their very sloppy cow manure.

Arky
October 9, 2021 7:57 pm

Best pig shooting video you will ever see:

..
What sort of dumb bastard would teach a pig to shoot?

JC
JC
October 9, 2021 7:59 pm

Arky says:
October 9, 2021 at 7:51 pm

I think 3 or 4 people died of covid in Sing so far in October.

.
No.

Fair enough, I thought I read it was around 3 but it looks like 44 for the month so far.

I was hoping I would get a concession with the earlier comment from you, but that’s not to be and I’ll now reassess where you’re coming from. No biggie. We always get let down.

Arky
October 9, 2021 8:00 pm

I was hoping I would get a concession with the earlier comment from you,

..
It’s not MY comment you’re asking me about.
So, no.

MatrixTransform
October 9, 2021 8:01 pm

She’s an ICU specialist there

Can you ask the specialist what happened to 98% of people who tested positive but didn’t spew their lungs up?

JC
JC
October 9, 2021 8:03 pm

It is your comment. But as I said, no biggie.

Just keeping saying the same old useless crap that the vaxes are worth shit. That sure works a treat and keep your head down when contrary data comes along.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 9, 2021 8:04 pm

rickw:

Seven or eight minutes into that clip. Outstanding stuff.

Left handed bloke too.

JC
JC
October 9, 2021 8:05 pm

Can you ask the specialist what happened to 98% of people who tested positive but didn’t spew their lungs up?

Why would I do that Matrix. If she’s an ICU specialist what connection would she have with the 98% in her job as I don’t get it.

Zipster
Zipster
October 9, 2021 8:07 pm

I think 3 or 4 people died of covid in Sing so far in October.

The mortality rate is trending at 0.1% it is extremely low.

Not panic stations. We have been conditioned to panic by this bioweapon and indeed that is the weapon’s primary aim.

MatrixTransform
October 9, 2021 8:07 pm

he’s saying JC’s link is a load of shit

It’s just an opinion

Arky
October 9, 2021 8:07 pm

that the vaxes are worth shit.

..
They are.
It’s 70%+ vaxxed here, 90+% for old fucks and we’re all still locked down.

Rabz
October 9, 2021 8:09 pm

It’s Saturday Night, peoples – time for some Rock ‘n’ Roll, I tells ya! 🙂

Arky
October 9, 2021 8:12 pm

JC.
I don’t get why you’ve just spent an afternoon basically advocating for vaccines.
No no one stopped you getting vaxxed.
You’re taking it awfully personally considering it’s us who don’t want the fucking thing that are on the chopping block.
All this obsession with locking down until the vaxxes were roled out has done is destroy businesses and lives.
These leaky vaxxes have done fuck all.

JC
JC
October 9, 2021 8:12 pm

They are.

Nope, you’re wrong again.

They aren’t perfect and the new strains have caused a few problems. If the contraction rate has even fallen down to 50% .. 40% even, the vax is showing the symptoms are less serious than without the vax.

It’s 70%+ vaxxed here, 90+% for old fucks and we’re all still locked down.

Go complain to the state governments.

Rabz
October 9, 2021 8:13 pm
MatrixTransform
October 9, 2021 8:13 pm

If she’s an ICU specialist what connection would she have with the 98% in her job as I don’t get it.

If you get it you WILL die
We are all gonna get it therefore we will all DIE
But >99-ish percent of people who do get it, DON’T die

it’s all a bit Monty Pythonesque

MatrixTransform
October 9, 2021 8:14 pm

therefore, I’m a duck/witch

Rabz
October 9, 2021 8:14 pm

Let’s have some of the hardest working man in show business, I tells ya! 🙂

Zipster
Zipster
October 9, 2021 8:15 pm
Rabz
October 9, 2021 8:16 pm

The Golden State

MatrixTransform
October 9, 2021 8:17 pm

time for some Rock ‘n’ Roll, I tells ya!

I’m a cuntry boy … https://youtu.be/MBx9AqdOTaA

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 9, 2021 8:22 pm

The Cth seems wedded to the 80% vaxx figure – if only so it can stop Jobkeeper or whatever it is called now. Pretty hard to do that and keep the international border closed.

If you are the gambling type, start looking for your passport. Mine ran out 2 years ago – and joined my car and motorbike in the “Stuff I No Longer Need” pile.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
October 9, 2021 8:22 pm

Hello Cats.

I promised you all a Railway Story (and particularly Lysander, if you are out there). And I have run out of Eat-Sleep-Train-Repeat excuses for the week (phew!). So here we go…

Rex’s Rambles- Why ARE is the Western Australian Rail Network the Way It Is? Part One

Introduction
A common refrain heard in relation to any discussion of any historical or contemporary issue regarding WA’s rail network is “Why don’t more things go on rail in WA anymore?” Closely followed by “It’s all Charles Court’s / Those damned Liberals’ fault!” These two mutually-reinforcing shibboleths are very popular amongst surviving members of the old Westrail and casual enthusiasts alike, mainly out of old Party tribalism. Left- and Right-leaning folk who actually work within the industry and/or have a closer understanding of the history of the Western Australian Government Railways (WAGR) / Westrail and the privatised rail and train operator quickly learn that nothing penetrates this ideological meme-armour, and so just roll their eyes, call their signals and keep moving.

The story of West Australia’s railways is much more nuanced, and its current situation is some 150 years in the making. While I lack the scholarship in a few posts to make a thesis on the subject (and there are many better writers than I), I will attempt to cover the key historical points that brought the State here.

Beginnings
The first railway line built in Western Australia was the WA Timber Company’s Lockville-Yoganup railway near Busselton in 1871. This company eventually collapsed in 1888, and its formation and assets absorbed by another Timber company. It was eventually incorporated into a WAGR branch from Busselton to Nannup from in 1903. The locomotive Ballaraat still exists 150 years later, and is on public display in Busselton.

The first common-carrier railway lines in Western Australia were built by the WA Government in 1879 (Geraldton to Northampton), 1881 (Perth to Guildford) and 1891 (Perth to Bunbury). The privately-owned Great Southern Railway and Midland Railway Company of WA would appear on the scene in 1886 and 1890, building land grant-funded private railways from Beverley to Albany and Midland to Geraldton via Gingin and Walkaway. The former would be absorbed by the WAGR in 1896, in an almost broke condition, while the Midland Railway went on to become the largest privately owned common carrier in Australia until its sale to the WAGR and absorption in 1964.

These separate efforts to develop the essential infrastructure of a fledgling colony and then State amidst the initial austerity and then Gold Rush-mediated boom of the 1880s to 1901, set the scene for the Network today.

END PART ONE

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
October 9, 2021 8:22 pm

MatrixTransformsays:
October 9, 2021 at 8:17 pm
time for some Rock ‘n’ Roll, I tells ya!

I’m a cuntry boy … https://youtu.be/MBx9AqdOTaA

Maybe it’s the “cheerleader effect” but the chicks in that clip looked smoking hot.

Rabz
October 9, 2021 8:23 pm
JC
JC
October 9, 2021 8:24 pm

JC.
I don’t get why you’ve just spent an afternoon basically advocating for vaccines.

No I haven’t, which is you mind-reading again. You pal, Faulty2 put up a disgracefully dishonest comment about EU excess deaths. You then posted some baloney that the excess death rate had risen for an age band. That wasn’t what his link showed.

No no one stopped you getting vaxxed.

WTF has this go to do with Faulty2’s dishonest comment and you essentially covering for the prick? If you did less fucking mind-reading and stuck-on bias you wouldn’t be posting continuous crap that.. “the vaxes are shit” and then blame the vaxes for still keeping us in lockdown.

You’re taking it awfully personally considering it’s us who don’t want the fucking thing that are on the chopping block.

I’m not taking it personally. But how much more personal could this be?
Eyrie

They don’t care about you or if you live or die. Neither do I,

The other day he said he was hoping I’d die and he’d come piss on my grave.

Is that personal or not, Champ?

All this obsession with locking down until the vaxxes were roled out has done is destroy businesses and lives.

Gee, that’s something new to me, right? Like I support lockdowns, yea?

These leaky vaxxes have done fuck all.

You’re wrong .

cohenite
October 9, 2021 8:25 pm

Deaths from all causes in Australia, 2020 compared to 2021:

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/excess-mortality-p-scores-average-baseline?country=~AUS

Now will you dickheads STFU about this crap.

Zipster
Zipster
October 9, 2021 8:27 pm
Arky
October 9, 2021 8:28 pm

No I haven’t, which is you mind-reading again. You pal, Faulty2 put up a disgracefully dishonest comment about EU excess deaths. You then posted some baloney that the excess death rate had risen for an age band. That wasn’t what his link showed.

No no one stopped you getting vaxxed.

WTF has this go to do with Faulty2’s dishonest comment and you essentially covering for the prick? If you did less fucking mind-reading and stuck-on bias you wouldn’t be posting continuous crap that.. “the vaxes are shit” and then blame the vaxes for still keeping us in lockdown.

You’re taking it awfully personally considering it’s us who don’t want the fucking thing that are on the chopping block.

I’m not taking it personally. But how much more personal could this be?
Eyrie

They don’t care about you or if you live or die. Neither do I,

The other day he said he was hoping I’d die and he’d come piss on my grave.

Is that personal or not, Champ?

All this obsession with locking down until the vaxxes were roled out has done is destroy businesses and lives.

Gee, that’s something new to me, right? Like I support lockdowns, yea?

These leaky vaxxes have done fuck all.

You’re wrong

..
This is the nanowrigglers talking.
Release JC now, you vile bastards.

JC
JC
October 9, 2021 8:30 pm

Cronkite, keep up.

We’re not discussing Australia. Faulty2 brought up the EU.

He’s 0/5 so far this week alone.

MatrixTransform
October 9, 2021 8:30 pm

but the chicks in that clip looked smoking hot

Oh … I didn’t notice 😉

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 9, 2021 8:30 pm

Enough hyperlinks to keep everyone busy for a while.

Arky
October 9, 2021 8:30 pm

Gee, that’s something new to me, right? Like I support lockdowns, yea?

..
The lockdowns are a consequence of this stupid waiting for the vaccines to reach herd immunity.
Without that rationale they wouldn’t have been able to do it.

srr
srr
October 9, 2021 8:31 pm

History Rhyming wouldn’t be so bad if they laid off the Vogon Poetry –

Zipster says:
October 9, 2021 at 8:15 pm

Poland’s top court rules against primacy of EU law | DW News
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77yKT6fC76Y

“Poland’s constitutional court said on Thursday that Polish law can take precedence over EU law amid an ongoing dispute between the European bloc and the eastern European member state. The decision by the Constitutional Tribunal came after Polish Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki requested a review of a decision by the EU’s Court of Justice (ECJ) that gave the bloc’s law primacy. Two out of 14 judges on the panel dissented from the majority opinion. “The attempt by the European Court of Justice to involve itself with Polish legal mechanisms violates … the rules that give priority to the constitution and rules that respect sovereignty amid the process of European integration,” the ruling said.

Brussels considers the Constitutional Tribunal illegitimate due to the political influence imposed upon Poland’s judiciary by the ruling Law and Justice party (PiS).

Poland has come under repeated fire from the EU including over issues to do with LGBTQ rights and women’s rights and media freedom. The judiciary reforms by the PiS government have been seen as a threat to Poland’s membership within the 27-member bloc as well as to the stability of the EU as a whole. The court’s decision on Thursday came as little surprise. The presiding judge, Julia Przylebska, is a government loyalist who was appointed by the ruling party.” [says Deutsche Welle = German Wave]

Arky
October 9, 2021 8:32 pm

WTF has this go to do with Faulty2’s dishonest comment

..
For the 20th time today. I’m not responsible for anyone else’s comments on this blog.
End of.

Zipster
Zipster
October 9, 2021 8:35 pm
MatrixTransform
October 9, 2021 8:37 pm

Sierra Ferrell | “Bells of Every Chapel”

JC
JC
October 9, 2021 8:37 pm

For the 20th time today. I’m not responsible for anyone else’s comments on this blog.
End of.

You covered for him. You excused his deranged, dissonant bullshit by introducing a non-sequitur.

An EU based age band does not equal EU excess deaths. When egg was plastered over the filthy c..ts face, he then wished death on me. And you’re suggesting I was being personal. FMD.

Arky
October 9, 2021 8:40 pm

JC, if you can’t discuss a matter with me because of the individual who raised it pisses you off, we’re gonna be severely limited on here!

Rabz
October 9, 2021 8:40 pm

The schlockdowns are a consequence of this stupid waiting for the vaccines to reach herd immunity.

That would be this year’s schlockdowns, Arks.

Last year’s were all a figment of our imagination. This is what needs to be done:

– Lengthy public floggings
– Hanged from the neck until dead
– HOP Time

I’m sick of waiting for it. Time to implement it. Not like it’s massively overdue or anything.

Rabz
October 9, 2021 8:42 pm

501 thoughts

I can’t stop thinking about Miss Ellie in a tight pair of 501s. 🙂

Bruce in WA
October 9, 2021 8:46 pm

Best pig shooting video you will ever see:

I’ve watched a few of his videos, Rick.

Rifle is dinged and battered, blueing missing off the barrel, sweaty, rusty fingerprints on it, scope equally dented and scruffy — and it shoots like a bloody laser!

Good stuff for a Saturday evening … thanks

JC
JC
October 9, 2021 8:49 pm

JC, if you can’t discuss a matter with me because of the individual who raised it pisses you off, we’re gonna be severely limited on here!

Here we go again. Arky, as far as I know, you don’t own this blog. If that’s changed then perhaps let me know. If I’m limited or not, that’s not for you to say and really had nothing to do with you.

Repeating the same stupid line … The vaxes do shit .. is ridiculous and if it was my blog, I actually be telling to you “limit” this sort of nonsense.
Stick to your little space on the threads you post and I promise I won’t come near them as I never have seeing they don’t interest me, but don’t try and run some school marm crap on me.

You obviously rather take the low road and not admit a population band is not equal to the total. That’s fine. Leave it there and let’s not talk anymore. I think it’s better.

The Beer whisperer
The Beer whisperer
October 9, 2021 8:55 pm

Hey Beer Whisperer.
I hope things are on the up and up.
Cheers.

Getting better, thanks, Sancho.

P
P
October 9, 2021 8:56 pm

The artwork displayed on this Weekend thread ‘Battle of Lepanto, Gulf of Patras, Oct 7, 1571’ is of importance to many because “The greatest event witnessed by ages past, present and to come,” as the famous Spanish writer Cervantes who participated in the battle put it, saw the united Christian fleet triumph over the Ottoman empire!

cohenite
October 9, 2021 8:57 pm

Who gives a rat’s arse about Europe; it’s full of fucking eurotrash.

JC
JC
October 9, 2021 9:03 pm

Who gives a rat’s arse about Europe; it’s full of fucking eurotrash.

It is, but if the US is sinking in a quagmire, there’s not much left if you know what I mean. Europe , to some extent is resisting some of the extremist bullshit that’s being piped around in the US.

I’ve actually become quite optimistic for Europe’s economy and bought the Index there for their largest stocks. They’re going to do okay I think.

Dot
Dot
October 9, 2021 9:03 pm

Its okay rabz.

21 year old Kim Wilde serenades me each night.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 9, 2021 9:04 pm

The artwork displayed on this Weekend thread ‘Battle of Lepanto, Gulf of Patras, Oct 7, 1571’ is of importance to many because “The greatest event witnessed by ages past, present and to come,” as the famous Spanish writer Cervantes who participated in the battle put it, saw the united Christian fleet triumph over the Ottoman empire!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pFY8B6vgPI

Dot
Dot
October 9, 2021 9:04 pm

I’ve actually become quite optimistic for Europe’s economy

Because they’ve opened up?

Dot
Dot
October 9, 2021 9:05 pm

How is Europe a goer with this oil supply shock?

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
October 9, 2021 9:08 pm

One Typo in the title later…

Rex’s Rambles- Why IS the Western Australian Rail Network the Way It Is? Part Two

The WAGR Era
A keen student of the WAGR’s history between 1890 and 2003 very quickly learns that it ran on a shoestring budget for almost its entire existence. To examine each contributing factor in detail is something far beyond the scope of a Cat Post, so I will quickly look at the following:

1) Political Interference and Just Who Screwed The Railways?
2) Making Do
3) Upgrading Out of Necessity- 1945-1975
4) Deregulation and Privatisation

Political Interference and Just Who Screwed the Railways?
WA is a sparsely populated State, with very significant distances between major centres and smaller settlements alike. Rich agricultural land and mineral resources were constrained by lack of transportation. As such, anyone proposing and delivering on the extension of railway lines into WA’s rural areas was sure to get votes.

A classic WA policy of all Parties between 1901 and 1929 was to insist that all farming land be within 15 miles of a rail siding. This resulted in a large number of cross-country lines being extended between the main South-West, Great Southern and East Goldfields trunk lines to access grazing, cropping, dairying, timber, coal and produce country.

Unfortunately, at no point were these plans ever met with increased funding for the WAGR to operate them. In fact, the typical pattern went something like this:

* Politician proposes a series of rural branchlines for WAGR.
* WAGR declines, stating its budget difficulties and struggles to operate what it has.
* Construction work is given to the Public Works Department instead.
* PWD builds as much line as cheaply as it can- Minimal earthworks and engineering, half-round sleepers, the lightest possible rail that can be applied, minimal ballasting and infrastructure.
* PWD declares completion of the project, and hands over to WAGR
* WAGR immediately has to find resources to actually make the line traffickable.

Cats can visit and ride on a prominent survivor of such rail-building philosophy at Dwellingup, WA. The Hotham Valley Railway preserves a 32km portion of the line between Pinjarra and Boddington, built between 1910 and 1927. On the popular Dwellingup-Isandra section (run with steam power during May-October), tourists get to experience a continuous climb up the Darling Scarp at an uncompensated grade of 1 in 30- Some of the steepest adhesion-worked railway line in the Southern Hemisphere. At the other end, the line between Dwellingup and Etmilyn is even steeper and sharply curved, as it drops into and climbs out of Spencer’s Brook.

“This history is great and all, Rex, but what has it got to do with your claim about who screwed the Railways?” By looking at this list of WA Premiers between 1890 and 2021, the presence of Liberal Premiers is quite small, and WA has seen a long procession of Labor parliaments, more or less coinciding with the periods of greatest expansion and upheaval in the WA Railway scene between 1901 and 1939.

Liberal Sir Charles Court is the Blue Meanie chosen because his era of government saw massive changes in the WAGR, ranging from its rebranding to Westrail, the deregulation of its relatively exorbitant freight charges and the closure of the Fremantle Suburban Railway Line in 1979. Richard Court comes a close second due to his government’s closure of the Midland Railway Workshops in 1993. Most surviving activists and ex-Railwaymen of that era are still alive, and the cultural memory is still very strong.

END PART TWO

Rabz
October 9, 2021 9:08 pm

Beery? Feel free to give us a ring, Squire. 🙂

Who gives a rat’s arse about Europe

I do – it’s laden with some the hottest bits o’ that on the planet. Eastern Yerp in particular. My lineage is of the place, going back to the Venetians that handed those Ottoman Poufs* a mighty obliteration, as depicted in the picture theme of this thread.

*KD, you are a gentleman and a scholar.

Dot
Dot
October 9, 2021 9:10 pm

Blake Masters
@bgmasters

In America, you should be able to raise a family on one single income.
@RubinReport

I agree. This is something that worried me quite a lot as an economist.

It is simply unaffordable in the west to do this in many places.

We are simply taxed too much.

JC
JC
October 9, 2021 9:10 pm

Because they’ve opened up?

Yes and monetary policy is being run well without stress in the periphery.

The oil price is a problem, but it also depends what the Euro/US will do.

Rabz
October 9, 2021 9:10 pm

21 year old Kim Wilde serenades me each night.

Noice, Pol. You do have some semblance of taste, Squire.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 9, 2021 9:11 pm

Richard Court comes a close second due to his government’s closure of the Midland Railway Workshops in 1993.

Midland Railway workshops were an industrial museum.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
October 9, 2021 9:19 pm

Rex I have a book on the ZigZag line up to Kalamunda somewhere in a carton. Had a property in Gooseberry Hill. Loved walking up the old line.

Old bloke
Old bloke
October 9, 2021 9:25 pm

Two thousand medical staff to come to Australia, probably to replace the unvaxxed health service staff stood down.

Strike breaking with a difference, bet you won’t hear a murmur from the medical professional associations nor the nurse’s unions.

Thousands of overseas nurses and doctors to reinforce strained Australian health system

JC
JC
October 9, 2021 9:26 pm

Is that “ad” new to you Dover?

MatrixTransform
October 9, 2021 9:27 pm
DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
October 9, 2021 9:31 pm

Where is this ad from?

It didn’t have the intended effect on me.

P
P
October 9, 2021 9:32 pm

Two thousand medical staff to come to Australia, probably to replace the unvaxxed health service staff stood down.

In NSW due to the resignation of more than a thousand because of mandatory vaccination.

Dot
Dot
October 9, 2021 9:33 pm

As if poor people like that can buy cocaine.

If they are, they need to cut that out, read Dave Ramsey’s Baby Steps.

Beans & rice, rice & beans!

srr
srr
October 9, 2021 9:33 pm

Anyone else noticed how News isn’t anymore?

It’s not just the old “conspiracy theories” that ended up being facts, but all sorts of seriously reported old news that keeps being presented as ‘breaking’ news.

It obviously isn’t bring people up to date on things they missed because it isn’t presented that way and that good will simply doesn’t exist in MSM.

One consistent feature in old news presented as new is that it’s about Seriously Big Cheats in Politics & Big Business getting Exposed and still Getting Away With It.

Now while many chose to swallow the Black Pills this constant, ‘You Can’t Beat ‘Em.’, messaging is designed to deliver, I remember that it’s only the second death that’s permanent and that’s what The Enemy is trying to seduce us into choosing.

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
October 9, 2021 9:37 pm

Apologies if link doesn’t work. I’m a bit of a numpty when it comes to that. Just google discernable news . Ethical policing. 1 day old.

Indolent
Indolent
October 9, 2021 9:38 pm

This is an extract from a newsletter from George Christensen –

More help with ‘No Jab, No Job’ abuse
The political action group Reignite Democracy Australia has set up a very informative webpage for workers facing ‘No Jab, No Job’ abuse either directly from their employer or imposed upon their employer by government.
Reignite Democracy Australia have said:
… we are working on a campaign to help those of you being coerced into getting the vaccine. We’re still in the process of liaising with lawyers, but in the meantime have put together a page of resources for you. On the page, you will find actions you can take now, links to useful information, and lists of lawyers, unions and support groups on the front line fighting with you.

We are working hard behind the scenes to bring you more solutions, but please HOLD THE LINE and share these resources with anyone you know who may need some hope.

(On the webpage you can) … access the resources mentioned and also to sign up for more resources specific to your industry as they are finalised (if you haven’t already). We will correspond with you within a few days to a week.
You can access the webpage at
https://www.reignitedemocracyaustralia.com.au/hold-the-line/

JC
JC
October 9, 2021 9:41 pm

Thanks Shake, but I’m going to take a pass and ignore what she has to say.

Get a load of the highlighted:

A senior Victoria Police officer has quit the force over complaints about enforcing strict public health orders, claiming the organisation has lost independence from government.

Acting Senior Sergeant Krystle Mitchell, who has served for 16 years, told an internet program The Discernible Interviews that her colleagues within Victoria Police did not agree with enforcing the directions of the state’s Chief Health Officer.

“I’m here for a number of reasons but firstly I just want to talk about who I am and the career I’ve had with Victoria Police,’’ she said.

“There was a big thought process and battle of morals and integrity within me about what I wanted to do and how I see my organisation being used during this pandemic and it troubled me greatly.

“I’ve been in the police for 16 years and I currently work in gender equality and inclusion command. It’s the best job I’ve ever had. I love my job …’’

I’m not sure I believe her. There are some who don’t agree with the direction of Vicpol. Most of them like their jobs.. like she did.

Arky
October 9, 2021 9:42 pm

JCsays:
October 9, 2021 at 8:49 pm
JC, if you can’t discuss a matter with me because of the individual who raised it pisses you off, we’re gonna be severely limited on here!
..
Here we go again. Arky, as far as I know, you don’t own this blog. If that’s changed then perhaps let me know. If I’m limited or not, that’s not for you to say and really had nothing to do with you.

..
Mate, you’re not comprehending.

JC
JC
October 9, 2021 9:42 pm

This.. it didn’t highlight..
“I’ve been in the police for 16 years and I currently work in gender equality and inclusion command. It’s the best job I’ve ever had. I love my job …’’

Rabz
October 9, 2021 9:44 pm

Three and a half months in schlockdoon, peoples. 🙁

Time for some psychedelic relief … 😕

Diogenes
Diogenes
October 9, 2021 9:44 pm

I can’t remember if it was this video but on this channel the host made the claim that the level of money printing by governments now is unprecedented and very dangerous.

And coincidentally the Great War Channel discusses the origins of the German hyperinflation.
https://youtu.be/cZBDyrXji5Q

Zipster
Zipster
October 9, 2021 9:46 pm

China’s Nightmarish New Bio Weapon Targets Race and Ethnicity
China building Bio Weapon that can target people based on race. China has been amassing a disturbing amount of genetic data from the rest of the world, and it’s been doing it for something nightmarish.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
October 9, 2021 9:48 pm

Rex’s Rambles- Why IS the Western Australian Rail Network the Way It Is? Part Three

Making Do
This is what the WAGR Network of Main and Branch Lines looked like in 1935. This was peak rail era, and would not begin to contract (to the WAGR’s relief) until 1956.

What is not obvious to the poor reader is that outside of the East Goldfields (including the Perth Metropolitan area), South-West and Great Southern main lines, practically the entire network was confined to a Pioneer-railway axle loading of 9.5 tons. This meant that trains had to be slow, short and ALL rolling-stock for the entire network built to the lowest common denominator.

It also meant that the WAGR was forced to maintain 2 entire, separate locomotive fleets- One fleet of mainline engines for the 16 ton trunk lines, and preserve a lot of its early Federation-era motive power (like the G class seen here) for the cross-country lines. This politically-inspired engineering issue and its logistical headaches would persist through 2 World Wars and up to the present day.

In fact, it would not be until 1951 with the coming of the W Class, that the WAGR would actually have something powerful enough for the mainline freight task, while also being sufficiently versatile to take over the cross-country locomotive role too.

WAGR developed a necessary habit of rebuilding its coaching stock again and again over time- WA Cats who remember riding trains like the Westland, Midlander or Albany Progress in the 1960s and 70s would be fascinated to know that most of their rides were on frames originally built in the early 1900s, with more modern stock dating from around 1920 and the last new-build air-conditioned cars on the Westland dating from the early 1960s. While railmotors like the Governors, Wildflowers and ADG/H classes represented the State of the Art in passenger rail transportation at their time, they were only ever purchased in limited numbers and run as hard and as long as mechanically possible.

The WAGR freight fleet saw 1890s-vintage 30 foot bogie wagons (the traditional maximum length that could be fit into the average steamship’s cargo holds at the time) rubbing shoulders with postwar 45- and 60-foot underframe wagons right up to 1989. Many of these survivors found their way into preservation- The Bennett Brook Railway’s entire stock of large passenger carriages is based on these old WAGR bogie wagon frames. Federation-era 15-foot wheelbase 4-wheel rolling stock shared the lines with mildly larger interwar and 18-foot postwar wagons until 1983.

A final note on this theme of ‘Making Do’ with lightly-laid pioneer lines, is that they provoked the WAGR’s great struggles with dieselisation in the 1950s. A tiny axle-load, combined with the need to develop maximal tractive effort saw the WAGR adopt the Crossley-engined X Class in 1954. The X Class is emblematic of the WAGR and its funding starvation in many ways- To summarise its woes, the locomotive was a lemon when first introduced into service. The WAGR diagnosed and corrected some 600 separate design faults in the motor between 1954 and 1965. By comparison, British Railways scrapped their Crossley-powered locomotives after barely 10 years’ service, and the Irish State Railways repowered theirs with more reliable American GM motors. The WAGR only retired the last X in 1988.

END PART 3

Rabz
October 9, 2021 9:49 pm

What an anthem … 🙂

Rabz
October 9, 2021 9:53 pm

Won’t somebody get the goil a drink? 😕

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 9, 2021 9:54 pm

Rex’s Rambles- Why IS the Western Australian Rail Network the Way It Is? Part Three

Charles Yelverton O’Connor – of Goldfields Pipeline fame – was supposed to have been the only person ever to make West Australian railways run at a profit…

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
October 9, 2021 10:03 pm

Rex Anger says:
October 9, 2021 at 9:48 pm

Thank you for your snapshot history of Rail in WA… much appreciated.

where is rail stocks repaired now if Midlands is no longer used AND was the Midlands Yards where Stokes set up his original Caterpillar Dealership/Workshops???

cheers.

Rabz
October 9, 2021 10:04 pm

That yearning for some candy

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
October 9, 2021 10:07 pm

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha says:
October 9, 2021 at 9:54 pm

Charles Yelverton O’Connor – of Goldfields Pipeline fame – was supposed to have been the only person ever to make West Australian railways run at a profit…

O’Connor was an amazing person ZK2A.

Didn’t he also contribute to making Fremantle Ports???

Rabz
October 9, 2021 10:08 pm
Muddy
Muddy
October 9, 2021 10:09 pm

Us Against the World – Tom MacDonald. Approximately 4 minutes in length.

Try to look past the exterior. The dude knows his market.
There are lessons to be learned here.
(But first comes the acknowledgement that we aren’t winning).

rickw
rickw
October 9, 2021 10:12 pm

Vikpol fascists at it again:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ltldb-By51g

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 9, 2021 10:15 pm

where is rail stocks repaired now if Midlands is no longer used AND was the Midlands Yards where Stokes set up his original Caterpillar Dealership/Workshops???

There’s at least one company operating in Kewdale that builds and repairs rolling stock.

Zipster
Zipster
October 9, 2021 10:16 pm

China’s Nightmarish New Bio Weapon Targets Race and Ethnicity
China building Bio Weapon that can target people based on race. China has been amassing a disturbing amount of genetic data from the rest of the world, and it’s been doing it for something nightmarish.

Polish gene project moves to drop Chinese tech on data concerns

BGI prenatal gene test under scrutiny for Chinese military links

Rabz
October 9, 2021 10:17 pm
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 9, 2021 10:18 pm

Didn’t he also contribute to making Fremantle Ports???

Fremantle Harbor, before O’Connor rebuilt it, was of such appalling standard that it was proposed to make Albany the principal port of Western Australia. He was a most amazing man, hounded to suicide, by the little men, yapping at his heels.

Zipster
Zipster
October 9, 2021 10:22 pm

China already has hundreds of millions of surveillance cameras in place. Xi’s government hopes to soon achieve full video coverage of key public areas. Much of the footage collected by China’s cameras is parsed by algorithms for security threats of one kind or another. In the near future, every person who enters a public space could be identified, instantly, by AI matching them to an ocean of personal data, including their every text communication, and their body’s one-of-a-kind protein-construction schema. In time, algorithms will be able to string together data points from a broad range of sources—travel records, friends and associates, reading habits, purchases—to predict political resistance before it happens. China’s government could soon achieve an unprecedented political stranglehold on more than 1 billion people.
Early in the coronavirus outbreak, China’s citizens were subjected to a form of risk scoring. An algorithm assigned people a color code—green, yellow, or red—that determined their ability to take transit or enter buildings in China’s megacities. In a sophisticated digital system of social control, codes like these could be used to score a person’s perceived political pliancy as well.A crude version of such a system is already in operation in China’s northwestern territory of Xinjiang, where more than 1 million Muslim Uighurs have been imprisoned, the largest internment of an ethnic-religious minority since the fall of the Third Reich. Once Xi perfects this system in Xinjiang, no technological limitations will prevent him from extending AI surveillance across China. He could also export it beyond the country’s borders, entrenching the power of a whole generation of autocrats.

srr
srr
October 9, 2021 10:36 pm

“Zipster says:
October 9, 2021 at 9:46 pm

China’s Nightmarish New Bio Weapon Targets Race and Ethnicity
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biNxl7tiVSY
China building Bio Weapon that can target people based on race. China has been amassing a disturbing amount of genetic data from the rest of the world, and it’s been doing it for something nightmarish.”

I bet Cassie & Co. don’t call Zipster a vile, low life racist for posting this.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
October 9, 2021 10:36 pm

Rex’s Rambles- Why IS the Western Australian Rail Network the Way It Is? Part Four

Upgrading Out of Necessity- 1945-1975
By the end of World War Two, the WAGR was seriously run down, and its workforce restive. The 1950s and 60s saw an economic boom, crippling industrial action (including a Metal Trades strike at Midland Workshops in 1956 that did more to encourage private car use in Perth than any Liberal Premier ever did), at least 2 complete Royal Commissions into the WAGR, its Commissioners and management and some of its locomotives (the Australian Standard Garratt and X Class).

The WAGR was granted the funds to revitalise its rolling stock, infrastructure, signalling and general practice. This era saw the development of the Forrestfield and Kewdale mashalling yards, the general upgrading of its trunk lines, the absorption of the Midland Railway Company in 1964, and the coming of the Standard Gauge to Perth in 1966. While a transcontinental rail link had been desired by Australian governments since Federation, the connection only went as far as Kalgoorlie by 1917. A train journey from Sydney to Perth thus required over a week and at least 4 changes of train due to break-of-gauge.

The Standard Gauge network from Kwinana to Kalgoorlie saw the latest in rolling stock, locomotives and operating practices adopted from new. These would slowly trickle over the the majority of the WAGR’s Narrow Gauge system, but by 1990 the only visible difference on many parts of the Narrow Gauge network from this era of significant change was the colour of the locomotives.

From 1956, improvements in road transportation were finally acknowledged and the first of the pioneer lines began to close. Several were immediately reopened due to bumper harvests, and thus stayed open on a seasonal basis. Much of the passenger infrastructure began to decline, replaced by the WAGR’s own coach services and later private bus companies.

Deregulation and Privatisation
In 1975, the WAGR was rebranded as Westrail, and the fad du jour of cost accountability came to WA. Despite drives for efficiency, it remained a government organisation that was dependent on transport regulation to maintain its services and profitability.

WA’s laws on transport regulation were softened in the 1950s, but deregulation was only achieved between 1980 and 1994. A lot of bulk traffic (including timber in the South West) was quickly lost to road transport, but iron ore around Geraldton, mineral sands traffic and iron and nickel from Kalgoorlie to Kwinana and Esperance have proved steady traffic to this day.

The Narrow Gauge trunk lines were upgraded to 19 tonne axle loads in the 1970s and 80s. The last of the pioneer lines in the Wheatbelt saw upgrading to 16 tonnes, subject to the amount of grain shipped on them. Several saw only perfunctory upgrades to 11 tonne loadings.

In 2003, Westrail was split to form the Public Transit Authority (Metropolitan and Country Passenger Rail), the freight operation sold to Australian Rail Group (later to become Aurizon) and the country network leased for 49 years to Brookfield Rail (now Arc Infrastructure).

Brookfield sought to minimise its costs and liabilities by limiting its maintenance to the busiest sections of its network and charging as much for access as would be suffered. The branchlines were in the firing line for closure again. Between public outcry and government leaning-on (particularly at the insistence of grain handler CBH), Brookfield agreed to stratify the grain lines. The lowest value and lightest (11 tonne axle load) cross-country lines were listed as Tier 3, run down and eventually closed.

These actions by Brookfield/Arc have seen considerable back-and-forth between themselves, CBH, Government and operators over access charges and maintenance standards. And are a persistent election issue in the country areas.

Post-Script
In 2021, much of the WA regional rail network sees semi-regular, seasonal grain and some mineral and wood chip traffic. The surviving pioneer lines are the subject of can-kicking by those responsible for their maintenance, that would not seem out of place in the WAGR era. The main lines continue to see vast volumes of long-distance general freight, minerals, parcels and other traffic- The market and shrewd operators have determined what works well for rail over the last 20 years. The biggest challenge is presently foreign-crewed coastal shipping form West Coast to East.

And anyone who sings the praises of the Labor Party in general and Mark McGowan’s Metronet in particular as being signs of Labor’s historical and lasting interest in the Railway scene, is only looking at half the picture. There are still many more Transport Workers’ Union members and trucking industry lobbyists than Rail, Tram and Bus Union members in WA.

And lots of shiny new electric passenger trains in town does not mean all is well down the line…

ALL CHANGE PLEASE- THIS RAMBLE TERMINATES HERE…

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
October 9, 2021 10:36 pm

Cat workshops used to be in Redcliffe.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
October 9, 2021 10:39 pm

There’s at least one company operating in Kewdale that builds and repairs rolling stock.

Had to check the map for whereabouts of Kewdale.

I suppose it makes operational sense being closer to the port, Kwinana et al.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
October 9, 2021 10:40 pm

Cnr Great Eastern Hwy and Fauntleroy Ave.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
October 9, 2021 10:40 pm

There’s at least one company operating in Kewdale that builds and repairs rolling stock.

That’s GEMCO in Forrestfield.

Goninans (Now UGL) still has a major loco works in Bassendean, but haven’t built anything there since they did 60 out of Pacific National’s 121 NR class locos in the early 90s. They do heavy maintenance now.

Progress Rail (Caterpilar) took over the EMD brand from General Motors, and have some facilities in Malaga.

cohenite
October 9, 2021 10:44 pm

FMD Zipster, that’s some serious shit; but you can’t put anything past the chunks; after all anyone who eats armadillos is capable of any fucking thing.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
October 9, 2021 10:52 pm

Thank you to all WA folk.

Much appreciated by this little piggy.

I only spent 6 years in WA and found it all fascinating.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
October 9, 2021 10:55 pm

and thank you again Rex A.

good job.

duncanm
duncanm
October 9, 2021 10:56 pm

Rabzsays:
October 9, 2021 at 10:04 pm
That yearning for some candy …

careful.. she was either 15 or 16 when that song was released.

Rabz
October 9, 2021 10:58 pm

For poor ol’ Tails, in disgrace as he is … 🙂

Rabz
October 9, 2021 11:01 pm

Duncs – it’s just a great piece of pop. As for the minor stuff – “Officer, she looked a lot older than that, I tells ya!” 😕

Rabz
October 9, 2021 11:04 pm

Hey collectivists – I will not kneel! 🙂

duncanm
duncanm
October 9, 2021 11:05 pm

’tis good pop. I used to work for the guy who came up with the device that made all those hideous 80’s video effects.

vlad redux
vlad redux
October 9, 2021 11:05 pm

Dover, that ad is said – by one of the cast – to be the work of “Hugo Kohler films”.

https://www.bandt.com.au/get-the-fkn-jab-this-drug-infused-swear-monster-could-well-be-the-best-pro-vax-ad-yet/

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 9, 2021 11:09 pm

Goninans (Now UGL) still has a major loco works in Bassendean, but haven’t built anything there since they did 60 out of Pacific National’s 121 NR class locos in the early 90s. They do heavy maintenance now.

From memory, the last nail in the coffin of the creaking museum that was Midland Railway Workshops, was the discovery that they couldn’t compete with the private sector in producing, or maintaining the newer generation of rolling stock ?

Rabz
October 9, 2021 11:09 pm

I used to work for the guy who came up with the device that made all those hideous 80’s video effects

This needs to be inscribed on your headstone after you’ve departed this earth, squire. 🙂

Bruce in WA
October 9, 2021 11:09 pm

Fremantle Harbor, before O’Connor rebuilt it, was of such appalling standard that it was proposed to make Albany the principal port of Western Australia. He was a most amazing man, hounded to suicide, by the little men, yapping at his heels.

Anyone in WA who hasn’t yet been should go to the No. 1 Pumping Station museum at Mundaring Weir. Gives some great insight into CY O’Connor, including his suicide note and the vitriolic attacks against him. He’d be much better off being canonised … in my opinion.

cohenite
October 9, 2021 11:14 pm

Nice contrast in viewing: first a bit of 1960s whimsy in How to Steal a Million with Peter O’Toole when he was still arguably the best looking man on the planet and Audrey Hepburn, all eyes and gamin simpers. And then cutting between the series of Get Shorty and Yellowstone, both with nary a whimper of sentiment between them.

duncanm
duncanm
October 9, 2021 11:17 pm

This needs to be inscribed on your headstone after you’ve departed this earth, squire. ?

True. ‘This bloke once knew someone who did something which everyone has forgotten’

Rabz
October 9, 2021 11:19 pm
cohenite
October 9, 2021 11:23 pm

And to finish off, a series of Liz in bathing suits:

https://www.vintag.es/2015/10/37-beautiful-vintage-photos-of.html?m=1

Rabz
October 9, 2021 11:28 pm
Bruce in WA
October 9, 2021 11:34 pm

And to finish off, a series of Liz in bathing suits:

https://www.vintag.es/2015/10/37-beautiful-vintage-photos-of.html?m=1

Richard Burton complained that she was just “Too damn hairy”.

No “Waxed, Vaxed, Ready to climax” then?

Rabz
October 9, 2021 11:36 pm

Sacré bleu!

JC’s two favourite rock ‘n’ roll indivegetables – Goose Springsteen and Jonathon Cougar Melonhead … 🙂

Rabz
October 9, 2021 11:39 pm
Arky
October 9, 2021 11:41 pm

Stop polluting the OT with that dreck Rabies and go to the Vicki thread where I just body slammed you and gouged my thumb into your eyeball.

Arky
October 9, 2021 11:42 pm

Bruce Springsteen takes it up the arse.

Bruce in WA
October 9, 2021 11:42 pm

Just because it’s Saturday night doesn’t mean we should abandon all class!

Here’s one of the prettiest women I’ve seen and one of the most dynamic male singers:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQps9qY-3pQ

Ladies might appreciate this a bit more.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 9, 2021 11:46 pm

Rex – appreciated. Interesting stuff.

I now await the upcoming companion pieces, by another author, on this country’s trucking industry.

Bruce in WA
October 9, 2021 11:49 pm

Went to the local mall today and they had Chrissie decorations and trees for sale … so why not!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHioIlbnS_A

Bruce in WA
October 9, 2021 11:50 pm
FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
October 9, 2021 11:52 pm

Anyone in WA who hasn’t yet been should go to the No. 1 Pumping Station museum at Mundaring Weir. Gives some great insight into CY O’Connor, including his suicide note and the vitriolic attacks against him. He’d be much better off being canonised … in my opinion.

Totally agree Bruce of WA and it is at Mundaring Weir that I first read the full saga and followed up with my own private investigations.

I had known of him before that visit.

Bruce in WA
October 9, 2021 11:55 pm

The little dark-haired one in the pink top is mine … youse jokers can fight over the other two.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arZZw8NyPq8

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
October 9, 2021 11:59 pm

Knuckle Dragger says:
October 9, 2021 at 11:46 pm

Rex – appreciated. Interesting stuff.

I now await the upcoming companion pieces, by another author, on this country’s trucking industry.

KD

It is all transportation in our wide ‘brown’ land… without EV’s nor electricity!

Check these photos,
https://duckduckgo.com/?t=lm&q=Australia+wagon+loaded+with+wool&atb=v284-1&iax=images&ia=images

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
October 10, 2021 12:00 am

Can’t wait to see the ABC lemmings when the city lights go out.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 10, 2021 12:00 am

Those are some big-arse loads of wool.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 10, 2021 12:06 am

The little dark-haired one in the pink top is mine … youse jokers can fight over the other two.

Good to see you back….

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
October 10, 2021 12:07 am

Knuckle Dragger says:
October 10, 2021 at 12:00 am

Those are some big-arse loads of wool.

LOL

exactly

fk their EV’s and electricity.

I demand that we go net zero in 2022 you fkn wuss LNP.

Not 2050.

MatrixTransform
October 10, 2021 12:10 am

The little dark-haired one in the pink top is mine

How do you say, “please, don’t stop” in Spanish?

Thefrollickingmole
Thefrollickingmole
October 10, 2021 12:12 am

Aah but where does the steam roadster fit in.
Truck or steam train?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=skG-YYGwoFI

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
October 10, 2021 12:16 am

Net Fkg Zero.

Morrison… stop pulling your pud.

And if you had any balls whatsoever then you would deny re-entry into Australia to anyone that attends COP26.

Bruce in WA
October 10, 2021 12:19 am

An oldie but a goodie … quite hypnotic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d727nJUC5Tg

And that’s me done … goodnight.

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