Mater’s Musings #34: Bait and Switch


I was speaking to a Health Professional the other day (one who is very preoccupied with reading medical papers), and it evolved into a friendly discussion about the vaccines and the mandate. It’s rare that such discussions remain civil nowadays, but he clearly didn’t support mandating medical procedures, so it was fruitful and light-hearted. What did surprise me from the discussion was that he was initially under the impression that at least one of the vaccines was Fully Approved by the TGA.

In case you’re unaware, all of them are still but ‘Provisionally Approved’. If a medical professional is this ill-informed, is the government REALLY providing sufficient information to the general public? If the public were to know, would they appreciate what it means?

A judge in New Zealand recently ruled that Provisional and Fully Approved Therapeutics were equally valid when it came to vaccine mandates.

This brings us to the essential question of why the Provisional Approval pathway was introduced into the Therapeutic Goods Act in the first place. I think it is important to look at the understanding and intent of the lawmakers who ushered it into the statute books. Here is one of the speeches (by Senator POLLEY) accompanying the amendment:

Ref: Hansard

There are some brutal truths in this speech which does no favour for the situation we find ourselves in or the way in which the provision is being wielded.

The potential risks must, however, be weighed against the potential benefits. In many situations it is the patients themselves who must weigh up these risks and benefits, hopefully with the guidance of health professionals.

Senator Helen POLLEY

Unfortunately, the privilege of weighing up these risks and benefits has been removed from our purview. Health professionals no longer provide merely guidance.

Recognising that these medicines are based on early clinical data, it’s important that doctors, health professionals and, most importantly, patients fully understand and appreciate the risks involved.

Senator Helen POLLEY

Most people don’t (because the government would prefer it that way), but even if they do, does it matter when a mandate is in force?

With access to a medicine being given without the level of clinical data that would normally be provided, it is foreseeable that new information will show some of these medicines to be less effective than first thought, and there may be greater or new risks that weren’t known at the time.

Senator Helen POLLEY

Sounds like a great scenario in which to force the treatment on people, doesn’t it?

There will be strict conditions under which a medicine will be available through the provisional approval pathway. It will be for patients with unmet clinical needs for serious health conditions.

Senator Helen POLLEY

Strict conditions alright…YOU MUST HAVE IT! Do healthy people have “unmet clinical needs for serious health conditions”?

Let’s even forget, for a minute, that the standard criteria for the Provisional Pathway were bastardised and further abridged to cater specifically for the passage of these vaccines. If anyone seriously believes that this pathway was intended for, or is in any way an appropriate method to introduce mandate revolutionary, unproven vaccines, please, I beg you, send me a pound of whatever it is that you’re smoking or snorting. Frankly, I could do with the relief! Ignorance is bliss, even if it’s chemically induced.

No, this is an incredible abuse of legislative power.

Just as Health Order’s were really only envisaged to isolate small, infected pockets of our communities, for the good of public health, the ‘Provisional Approval’ pathway was clearly only intended to provide hope for dying and doomed ‘patients’ for whom no amount of risk was unacceptable. Both instruments have been abused beyond what could have been imagined…outside of the evilest of minds.

We must not forget the cavalier attitude that politicians of all persuasions have adopted towards our health, our choices, our freedoms.


20 responses to “Mater’s Musings #34: Bait and Switch”

  1. Mark M Avatar
    Mark M

    This is sort of wild.

    Per the Cook County Medical Examiner, the number of COVID- related deaths between 7/1/20-10/13/20 and 7/1/21 – 10/13/21 … is the same.

    Age distribution is different.

    via new catallaxy twitter feed:
    https://mobile.twitter.com/EWoodhouse7/status/1448338154696716288

    After jabs, you would think all deaths would fall.

  2. dover0beach Avatar

    Nothing, absolutely nothing about the rollout of these vaxxes passes the smell test.

  3. feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern

    Thanks mater, great post.
    Australians have no idea what Australia has become.
    When was this amendment passed ?
    Where could one find the voting record of who was for/against/abstain/absent.

  4. feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern

    Thanks.
    Australia is the beta test.

  5. Bruce of Newcastle Avatar
    Bruce of Newcastle

    It might be justifiable, might, if the vaccines actually worked and did no harm. But they clearly do not prevent transmission and lose their effectiveness after just two months. And I suspect due to their biochemistry that they produce a lot of subclinical effects in the body that will not be clear for years.

    Then we have seen the completely unjustified banning of ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine, which arguably are even more effective than the vaccines and which are very safe, being on the WHO Essential Medicines list.

    Why is all this happening? I just don’t know. It seems insane.

  6. feelthebern Avatar
    feelthebern

    I’m all for provisional approval.
    If usage is all about a person & their GP making the decision to use it.
    And they know the risks.

    But the provisional approval for vaccines that are then effectively mandatory for huge parts of the population.
    Covered by an indemnity against all adverse reactions?

    It’s fucking dystopian.

  7. rosie Avatar
    rosie

    Hydroxychloroquine was provisionally approved in March 2020 then removed in June 2020 because it was causing serious heart issues.
    didn’t work for Allen West btw

  8. Mater Avatar
    Mater

    I’m all for provisional approval.
    If usage is all about a person & their GP making the decision to use it.
    And they know the risks.

    Yes. I’ve said it in a previous post. I’ve had cancer, and I support the concept.
    It is being abused.

    It’s becoming clear that the drafting of our legislation has been rather loose because we made assumptions about the quality/humanity of our politicians and society. Clearly we must tighten it up significantly in the future and make it far more prescriptive, in order to avoid abuse.

    When considering any new legislation or law, a good rule would be to imagine it in the hands of the most evil person you know, and then imagine what he or she could do to you with it. If it sends a shiver down your spine, tighten it up, or discard it.

  9. 132andBush Avatar
    132andBush

    Just as Health Order’s were really only envisaged to isolate small, infected pockets of our communities, for the good of public health, the ‘Provisional Approval’ pathway was clearly only intended to provide hope for dying and doomed ‘patients’ for whom no amount of risk was unacceptable. Both instruments have been abused beyond what could have been imagined…outside of the evilest of minds.

    I think it’s a manifestation, in part, of the “god complex” a lot of these so called elites have.

  10. Mater Avatar
    Mater

    Hydroxychloroquine was provisionally approved in March 2020 then removed in June 2020 because it was causing serious heart issues.
    didn’t work for Allen West btw

    And?
    Was he forced to take it?

  11. 132andBush Avatar
    132andBush

    Hydroxychloroquine was provisionally approved in March 2020 then removed in June 2020 because it was causing serious heart issues.
    didn’t work for Allen West btw

    And?

  12. Mater Avatar
    Mater

    Hydroxychloroquine was provisionally approved in March 2020 then removed in June 2020 because it was causing serious heart issues.

    BTW, Rosie, are you sure?

    New restrictions on prescribing hydroxychloroquine for COVID-19 – 24 Mar 2020.

    It was an existing medication.

  13. Muddy Avatar
    Muddy

    Witchcraft is the new science.

  14. Eyrie Avatar
    Eyrie

    Nice unbiased article there, notaclue.
    Nobody ever claimed HCQ or IVM were 100% effective and they need to be used with other drugs. In this case, were they?
    The heart issues with HCQ is a furphy. They used it late in treatment of seriously ill patients in known toxic doses. The study was set up to fail deliberately.

  15. Boambee John Avatar
    Boambee John

    Mater

    When considering any new legislation or law, a good rule would be to imagine it in the hands of the most evil person you know, and then imagine what he or she could do to you with it. If it sends a shiver down your spine, tighten it up, or discard it.

    A variant on the old adage, “Never pass a law that you would not want your political opponents to administer”?

  16. John Brumble Avatar
    John Brumble

    Providing a Google search result in lieu of a structured argument, with that Google result not saying what the poster thinks it means.

    Now where have I seen that before?

  17. MatrixTransform Avatar
    MatrixTransform

    a family member is an infectious diseases specialist.

    at about day zero that person raided every pharmacy inside a 50km radius

    something about hydroxy-chloroform?

    then all of a sudden according to rosie, he was wrong

  18. Old bloke Avatar
    Old bloke

    I think it is important to look at the understanding and intent of the lawmakers who ushered it into the statute books.

    I think it’s important to look at the lawmakers who excepted themselves from their mandatory rulings made for us 3rd class citizens.

Leave a Reply

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *

  1. Angry NSW voters vow Labor exodus at next election over offshore wind farms The “Angry NSW voters” can just stfu,…

  2. Rosie Feb 26, 2024 7:22 AM The colonial enquiry was always intended to be a platform for ‘grieving relatives Colonial…

  3. NY & the End of the American Way of Life Once upon a time, in the United States, we, the…

  4. Haha, even Germans learn eventually. Mercedes-Benz Scraps Plans to Make Only Electric Vehicles Due to ‘Market Conditions’ (25 Feb) Mercedes-Benz…