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Fat Tony
Fat Tony
October 16, 2021 12:07 am

Number 1

Fat Tony
Fat Tony
October 16, 2021 12:07 am

Number 2

Fat Tony
Fat Tony
October 16, 2021 12:12 am

Number 3

Fat Tony
Fat Tony
October 16, 2021 12:13 am

It’s been years since I had a full podium….

Yee Ha

Miss Anthropist
Miss Anthropist
October 16, 2021 12:14 am

Happy where I am.
I let him win

Fat Tony
Fat Tony
October 16, 2021 12:15 am

Pffttt – loser

Bruce in WA
October 16, 2021 12:18 am

I was gunna be first but didn’t want people to think I’m a social climber.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

feelthebernsays:
October 15, 2021 at 8:50 pm
<<<thousands of Indian students, skilled workers and>>>

457 visa holders have been admitted to Australia on dodgy travel and work documents.

If true, these businesses should should be booted from the 457 visa program & fined.

How is the sponsoring business at fault?

Bruce in WA
October 16, 2021 12:31 am

People are asking me if it’s too early for Christmas carols.

Hell, NO!

Especially not this one! (Volume w-a-y up)!

Just imagine being in the first few rows.

Bruce in WA
October 16, 2021 12:35 am

No you ungrateful passant peasants. You WILL stay isolated from the rest of Australia and the world until I, your Emperor, decree otherwise. Hear me and tremble!

Stiffski shitski … I rule WA, no-one else!

Western Australia’s hard border closure to NSW is likely to be extended as fully-vaccinated Australians are allowed to return to the latter state from overseas without quarantining.

Vaccinated Australian citizens, residents and their families, including overseas-based parents, will be allowed to freely enter NSW from November 1.

They will need to be tested before boarding a flight and will need to prove they have had two doses of a Covid-19 vaccine.

WA Premier Mark McGowan said on Friday he was concerned an influx of travellers could lead to more coronavirus cases, flagging the border could remain shut for longer.

“I understand why they would (open their international border), because you may well be just as safe overseas as you are in Sydney,” he told reporters.

“But it may mean there’s greater spread of the virus in NSW. So that would obviously mean that we would keep our current border arrangement which is at ‘extreme risk’ with NSW for as long as it’s necessary.”

Bruce in WA
October 16, 2021 12:36 am

passant = pissant

Bloody autocorrect

MatrixTransform
October 16, 2021 12:37 am

who else had Tony, Tony, Tony in the trifecta?

Fat Tony
Fat Tony
October 16, 2021 12:45 am

MT – it’s been bloody years since the last time I had the top 4 positions.

I’d like to thank my life coach, my friends and supporters and, of course, my parents for without their efforts in 1952, I would not be here.

Thank you, one and all.

Bruce in WA
October 16, 2021 12:46 am

1952? Pfft! Kid!

Bruce in WA
October 16, 2021 12:48 am

Shit’s getting serious.

A 69-year-old British MP in Prime Minister Boris Johnson’s Conservative Party has been stabbed several times while meeting his constituents at a church, witnesses and media said.

Sir David Amess, who represents Southend West in Essex, eastern England, was stabbed by a man who walked into his constituency meeting at a Methodist Church.

Sir David’s office confirmed he had been stabbed but gave no further details.

He was receiving treatment at the scene for his injuries. His condition was unclear.

Police said a man had been arrested after the stabbing.

MatrixTransform
October 16, 2021 12:49 am

Thank you linesmen, thank you gender-non-specific upvoters

Bruce in WA
October 16, 2021 12:50 am

“Bill Clinton did not infect himself”

You heard it first here.

Fat Tony
Fat Tony
October 16, 2021 12:50 am

Bruce in WA says:
October 16, 2021 at 12:46 am
1952? Pfft! Kid!

I’ll have none of that, you old fart.

Bruce in WA
October 16, 2021 12:53 am

McGowan can FOAD if he thinks I’m going to start wearing a mask again when/if the border reopens.

(NADT)

Fat Tony
Fat Tony
October 16, 2021 12:53 am

Bruce in WA says:
October 16, 2021 at 12:48 am
Shit’s getting serious.

I think we’re going to see a lot more of this – tyrannical governments, useless Courts – no legal redress so take it to those who are causing the pain.

Fat Tony
Fat Tony
October 16, 2021 12:55 am

MatrixTransform says:
October 16, 2021 at 12:49 am
Thank you linesmen, thank you gender-non-specific upvoters

Yeah – nice fancy words – but what about the dickless upvoters???

Wally Dali
Wally Dali
October 16, 2021 12:58 am

Spraying critters in the dark…. let’s see if i can’t crash the tractor and wreck the rig, livestreaming on Nu Cat

Wally Dali
Wally Dali
October 16, 2021 12:59 am

with non-suubscription audience of five

MatrixTransform
October 16, 2021 12:59 am

but what about the dickless upvoters

gotta laugh
she was railing against the mysogines by emasculating one upvoter at a time.
and then all of the upvoters at once.

feminist thought is a gateway drug

MatrixTransform
October 16, 2021 1:01 am

like the Animal Rights Party woman that lives a few doors up from me.

nothing screams animal rights louder than rabbits in a cage on your front lawn.

the world has gone mad

MatrixTransform
October 16, 2021 1:07 am

Hi Muddy,

Mysogine (n) – A member of the tribe of healthy males with an opinion on an internet forum

Bruce in WA
October 16, 2021 1:08 am

I think we’re going to see a lot more of this – tyrannical governments, useless Courts – no legal redress so take it to those who are causing the pain.

Sadly, I think so … while I pray not!

MatrixTransform
October 16, 2021 1:14 am

tyrannical governments, useless Courts – no legal redress so take it to those who are causing the pain

and then the Govs are gonna double-down

nothing good comes of this

Bruce in WA
October 16, 2021 1:54 am

Conservative politician Sir David Amess has died after being stabbed multiple times as he was meeting with constituents

Tom
Tom
October 16, 2021 4:05 am
Tom
Tom
October 16, 2021 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
October 16, 2021 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
October 16, 2021 4:08 am

David Rowe continues his Dom Perrottet bender.

Tom
Tom
October 16, 2021 4:09 am
Tom
Tom
October 16, 2021 4:10 am
Tom
Tom
October 16, 2021 4:11 am
Tom
Tom
October 16, 2021 4:12 am
Tom
Tom
October 16, 2021 4:14 am
Tom
Tom
October 16, 2021 4:15 am
Tom
Tom
October 16, 2021 4:16 am
Tom
Tom
October 16, 2021 4:17 am
Tom
Tom
October 16, 2021 4:18 am
Tom
Tom
October 16, 2021 4:23 am
Tom
Tom
October 16, 2021 4:23 am
Tom
Tom
October 16, 2021 5:04 am

Once again, the media has instantly sprung into action to cover up the details of the murder of British Tory MP Sir David Amess.

As the establishment media cuts straight to the formula of paying tributes to the victim, the Daily Mail is alone in providing clues about another crime caused by the mad Western idea of importing Muslims who hate their adopted country:

Counter terrorism officers are tonight leading the investigation into the murder Tory MP Sir David Amess, police have confirmed.

It comes after horrified onlookers screamed for help as they tried to save the Conservative MP after he was brutally stabbed to death in front of them at his Southend constituency surgery.

The popular politician – who won at the last general election with a margin of 14,000 votes – was knifed ‘multiple times’ by a 25-year-old killer.

His attacker sprinted into the church and stabbed him to death during his weekly surgery as constituents watched in horror.

The Tory MP for Southend West, 69, was meeting locals at the Belfairs Methodist Church, in Eastwood Road North, Leigh-on-Sea, when it happened just at 12.05pm.

Paramedics worked to save the politician on the floor of the Essex church for more than an hour but he could not be saved after the appalling attack.

win
win
October 16, 2021 5:53 am

Paramedics worked on the floor for an hour. How many deaths could have been prevented had paramedics spent that hour getting him to hospital operating theatre and surgeons? Princess Diana is on who springs to mind.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 16, 2021 6:07 am

Many years ago we were part of the 457 visa program.
From my experience, there is no way a 457 visa fraud could occur without the employer being in on it.

rickw
rickw
October 16, 2021 6:11 am

Would love to see the fucks at vikpol try and break up this protest:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydosbqQzLE0

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 16, 2021 6:12 am

Newscorp give Phoebe Burgess another run in one of their papers.
This time in the Oz.
This comes on top the multiple spreads the Terror has run.
Why hasn’t she reverted back to her pre marriage name?
You’d think that someone who hated her marriage so much she’d get rid of her former husbands name.
Just like that Bartel bird did @sarc.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 16, 2021 6:28 am

Overnight Alex Berenson has released a column on his substack regarding excess deaths in Europe.
He touches on an issue that is becoming more apparent as the data gets released every quarter.
Because of the response/restrictions governments imposed with their citizens, there are now a whole cohort of people dying from other causes that were reasonably avoidable/treatable.

Where has the lateral thought gone.
As bad as these excess deaths are it’s not a patch on the problems that destroying two years of education for kids will cause.

MatrixTransform
October 16, 2021 6:43 am

From my experience, there is no way a 457 visa fraud could occur without the employer being in on it.

https://australmigrate.com/mltssl/

MatrixTransform
October 16, 2021 6:46 am

452411 Footballer
ANZSCO Occupation Code: 452411
ANZSCO Occupation Name: Footballer
Skill Assessing Authority: VETASSESS
Medium and Long-term Strategic Skills List: Yes
Short-term Skilled Occupation List: No
494: Yes
PMSOL Occupation: No
Caveat Reference: 482/186 – 25 – salary $120K+
ANZSCO Occupation Description: 452411 FOOTBALLER

Plays football professionally in competitions. This occupation requires high levels of physical fitness, sporting ability and personal commitment as well as, or in place of, formal qualifications or experience. Registration or licensing is required.
Skill Level: 3
Specialisations:
Australian Rules Footballer
Rugby League Footballer
Rugby Union Footballer
Soccer Player

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 16, 2021 6:48 am

(Volume w-a-y up)!

That one went really well with coffee to get the blood flowing! I’m awake now.

srr
srr
October 16, 2021 7:02 am

With every post of yours you sound more & more like that lantern jawed ‘female’ copper from your home patch, who I had to school.

Besides always keening to be seen spitting & scratching at who the mean girls spit & scratch at, you’re so easily led into school yard comebacks. Like a silly, angry child, you can’t make up your mind as to whether to try to brand me a ‘she cat’ or a ‘bitch’, being blinded by enmity.

Knuckle Dragger says:
October 15, 2021 at 10:53 pm
srr, aka Tabby, at 8.20:

What could my butting into something being well handled do, besides make matters worse.

So you’re just happy to bark from the back of the ute. Got it. No standing, fighting and if necessary falling, let alone rattling spray cans for you.

But then, you do seem to like the ‘ladies’ who make men fight over them

Like I’d punch on over a chick. Pfft. If you could explain this unusual and weird comment, it would be greatly appreciated.

Tabby.

At least your very sparse, very selective ‘quotes’, with your story re-writes between, indicate just how right you know I was to simply be seen, quietly, happily, along side the family (that included a VERY Pregnant woman), keeping the calm & dignity on the very public side of we sane, free breathers.

Your sad,”Pfft”, also indicates just how much you (like a number of the other tin suited white knights), are seen as the simps you are, not ‘punching on with other men’ to ‘protect & defend’ your ‘ladies’ (from the pack attacks they start), but insisting on jumping in to attack a stand alone old woman for them, with your own brand of gratuitous cyber head kicking.

Ah but now you must excuse me, as I’m off to see a man about a dog.

calli
calli
October 16, 2021 7:05 am

We need more curators and dancers.

There aren’t nearly enough in Australia to satisfy demand.

MatrixTransform
October 16, 2021 7:19 am

There aren’t nearly enough in Australia to satisfy demand

calli,
the amazing thing is that the middle daughter performing arts degree with honours
can’t find a paid gig or a grant anywhere
currently training as a hair-dresser

lives in the Socialist Republic of Northcote
when she get her license I’ll buy her some electric and a few packets of textas

at least hair-dressers aren’t on the list

[downvoting myself for pronoun non-compliance]

MatrixTransform
October 16, 2021 7:19 am

*electric shears

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
October 16, 2021 7:21 am

What we really need are night cart drivers to take out the “political shit”.

calli
calli
October 16, 2021 7:26 am

Matrix, I imagine some of these categories are created to get one particular person a visa.

It would be interesting, and informative to track back and see who it was. And who they know.

calli
calli
October 16, 2021 7:28 am

That would take a curious person of an investigative bent with, possibly, access to a publication or broadcaster.

One of those.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 16, 2021 7:29 am

Categories are always changing.
For all visa classes.
In consultation with big business & industry groups.

Eyrie
Eyrie
October 16, 2021 7:31 am

Would love to see the fucks at vikpol try and break up this protest:

Somewhat reminiscent of Rourke’s Drift.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 16, 2021 7:34 am

Fat Tonysays:

October 16, 2021 at 12:07 am

Number 1

Fat Tonysays:

October 16, 2021 at 12:07 am

Number 2

Fat Tonysays:

October 16, 2021 at 12:12 am

Number 3

Please.
We’re in the midst of an existential crisis.
Is this sort of frivolity really a priority right now?

rosie
rosie
October 16, 2021 7:35 am

Srr seems to have been describing her son, daughter in law and grandson, that she mentioned several times here.
Family seems to run into a lot of racists.

rosie
rosie
October 16, 2021 7:37 am

And maybe KD thinks and operates independently.
Novel?

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 16, 2021 7:38 am

Some people think the 457 visa holder is for when a business try as they might to employ a local, they just can’t, so they just happen to come across someone on the other side of the planet who just happens to fit the 457 requirements at that time.
Then bingo, a match made in heaven.
This is wrong.

Biggest users of 457 are big business, usually via a ring fenced subsidiary.
Big business has a shit project coming up 3-6 months out & they need 10-15 staff to do work that they know locals won’t do or won’t do for the budget they have.
Big business goes to specialist agency to fill gap.
Agency then goes to agency in source country.
Agency in source country contacts all those suitable on their books.
Both agencies handle all the visa & travel requirements.
457 visa holders turn up in Australia & in most cases stay at accomodation put together by agency.
They do they work.

If there are classification or category problems, no problems, the government is very accomodating for big business.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 16, 2021 7:38 am

Somewhat reminiscent of Rourke’s Drift.

Can’t let that pass without a segue.

Michael Caine, 88, retires from acting after ‘spine problem’ (15 Oct)

Thanks for lots of fine movies Sir Michael.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 16, 2021 7:39 am

Fat Tony’s domination of the podium is…problematic.

rosie
rosie
October 16, 2021 7:41 am

Possible calli.

Trouble with people in the arts industry, some people simply aren’t selling anything people actually want to buy.
Reminds me of van baddie? Possibly others wanting subsidised accommodation for artists because special.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 16, 2021 7:44 am

It’s not just 457 visas.
All those high rollers from mainland China who punted at Crown who the ABC/Fairfax/Nine said were the devil.
There were almost 200 of them.
Most had special visas granted via the “express” route that Crown (& other big businesses) enjoyed.

calli
calli
October 16, 2021 7:45 am

I detect Avoirdupois Supremacy.

calli
calli
October 16, 2021 7:49 am

Australia has always been corrupt. Like most nations.

The new level is the lack of shame and the electorate’s impotence. It’s now flaunted in our faces and there isn’t a thing we can do about it.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 16, 2021 7:50 am

The post on the old threat about Australia having a caste system in place is so true.
It sickens me.
But the real problem is that there are people are fully aware of it & will do anything to get into the unaccountable political caste & then do anything to stay there.

Nicholas Reece comes to mind.
Maybe that’s what sickened me.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 16, 2021 7:51 am

feelthebernsays:

October 16, 2021 at 7:39 am

Fat Tony’s domination of the podium is…problematic.

I have concerns …

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 16, 2021 7:53 am

The footage overnight with Biden with another tranche of kids is really off putting.

MatrixTransform
October 16, 2021 7:54 am

to get one particular person a visa

You know in Vik we have the Bat Eared Mong’s favorite projects namely, rail crossing removal and tunnels. Their best most favorite builder evah is John Holland

John Holland welcomes job applications from people outside Australia to work on our domestic and international projects. Graduate & Internship Program Changing lives doesn’t just apply to our projects – it is why we are committed to giving graduates a foot in the door of this exciting industry, where every day is a chance to make our …

I’ll let you guess who owns John Holland.

One of our colleagues did some work in a factory where they just bend and weld reo for contrete forms.
Big joint. Big presses and benders, big elec. big welders
Massive Chinese workforce.
The whole floor is Chinese speaking.
Right down to their china style hard-hats

MatrixTransform
October 16, 2021 7:55 am

Fat Tony’s domination of the podium is…problematic

translation: We are gonna need a bigger podium

rosie
rosie
October 16, 2021 7:57 am

#letitripdom is trending on twitter
I’m not exactly sure what is going to cause the mass casualties.
Still he seems to have angrified all the right people
father bower speaks

Cassie of Sydney
October 16, 2021 7:58 am

Tomsays:
October 16, 2021 at 5:04 am”

Murdered whilst meeting constituents. Engaging directly with constituents is something all UK MPs do regularly….something we should have here. As for the murder, I’ve just read “Somalian” and it’s already being looked at as “terror related”. Remember when Jo Cox was murdered in June 2016? The murderer was a white man…and of course the MSM sprung into furious and immediate action, calling him “far-right” and then using Cox’s murder to smear Brexit voters as waaaaacist. I doubt we’ll see the same furious reaction after this, it won’t fit the narrative. Amess was a very popular local MP who’d made his constituency, once marginal, into a safe Tory one.

But watch the MSM keep tabs on the murder….particularly if the perpetrator is a Somalian….hmm wonder what his religion could be? I can give you a clue, Somalia doesn’t have any Christians, Jews, Hindus and Buddhists.

Further on the despicable media, Colin Brazier has taken over from Andrew Neill as head of GB News…which despite its early hiccups is now beginning to find its balance (it’s only four months old!) as an alternative to the BBC. Brazier spent over two decades at UK Sky News (completely different to Sky Oz) and this week he spoke to Peter Whittle who runs the excellent Youtube channel “The New Culture Forum” (Whittle is also a former Tory politician). Brazier spoke about how in 2015 he was covering the “migrant” (cough) surge into Europe for UK Sky. As he said, most of the “migrants” were young able bodied men, very few from Syria but from further afield. Brazier was covering the story on the border of Hungary and he described how the MSM deliberately covered up the fact that it was the young migrant men who were the aggressors and who were deliberately throwing rocks and incendiary devices at the Hungarian border guards. The MSM spruiked lies so as to smear Orban and the Hungarian government who rightly said no to the “refugees” (cough).

Anyway, RIP David Amess.

caveman
caveman
October 16, 2021 7:58 am

Podiums only create Podiumism, Ban Podiums.
Well done Fat Tony see what you’ve done :-j

calli
calli
October 16, 2021 7:58 am

For a man of God, Bower seems awfully leery of meeting his maker.

Mater
October 16, 2021 7:58 am

I have concerns …

Your concerns are valid, and I share them. But if we can park them for a moment…

rosie
rosie
October 16, 2021 7:59 am

Thats why those projects were always exempt from lockdown rules.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 16, 2021 8:02 am

‘bern.
457s were definitely rorted by large corporates, and often just based on convenience or individual relationships.
A couple of years ago I was working for a global company doing large projects and they used to shuffle people all over the place.
A lot of it was for legit subject matter experts but once we got tapped into 457 world, some dodgy stuff went on.
Managers/specialists bringing PAs and other admin staff with them under 457s for jobs which could easily have been filled by Aussies.
They were often useless, spoke unintelligible pidgin English and took advantage of their privileged sponsor child status.

calli
calli
October 16, 2021 8:02 am

Will you guys please desist from so much circling back?

We need to move forward.

Perhaps reach out to Dover for a dedicated podium placement thread?

rosie
rosie
October 16, 2021 8:02 am

I predict that Bower’s prediction won’t come to pass.
And Perrottet has delayed the regional reopening to let them catch up with the vaccines that are all going to kill everyone anyhow.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 16, 2021 8:04 am

It’s really breathtaking how awful the Biden Usurpation is. I didn’t realize why the jam in US ports has been occurring until now.

Buttigieg is literally why we cannot have nice things (15 Oct)

struth
struth
October 16, 2021 8:06 am

Has anyone else noticed the vaxxed (who only got vaxxed out of fear of the deadly sniffles), talking about which covid passport is recognised by which country?
Why?
Surely they are not intending to participate in this disgusting apartheid tyranny?
Surely they will not submit for their own selfish desires?

Cassie of Sydney
October 16, 2021 8:08 am

“feelthebernsays:
October 16, 2021 at 6:12 am
Newscorp give Phoebe Burgess another run in one of their papers.
This time in the Oz.
This comes on top the multiple spreads the Terror has run.
Why hasn’t she reverted back to her pre marriage name?
You’d think that someone who hated her marriage so much she’d get rid of her former husbands name.
Just like that Bartel bird did @sarc.”

I noticed that too….methinks she’s suffering from attention deprivation.

MatrixTransform
October 16, 2021 8:10 am

my issue with the 3 tier podium is that it reinforces the notion that the system is actually stacked against achieving equity outcomes.

Any prestige attached to podium placement promulgates poor people practices.

So Tony is clearly a podium-supremaciss bigot

calli
calli
October 16, 2021 8:11 am

Dunno about vaxx passports to other countries.

I would like to get into Queensland to visit rellies. I have an Australian Passport. Current.

Would that suffice?

Megan
Megan
October 16, 2021 8:12 am

The mystery stabber is a Somalian national apparently.

Well, that’s a complete surprise, no?

Eddystone
Eddystone
October 16, 2021 8:12 am

Working on a stabbing victim for an hour at the scene is just wrong.

Definitely a “load and go” scenario.

Penetrating trauma needs a surgeon, not a gaggle of baggy arsed ambos faffing about.

rosie
rosie
October 16, 2021 8:13 am

Are you talking about people perhaps intending to travel overseas st ruth?
You’re already told people to get blood clots and die, they only have a few months to live, are evil and made numerous other abusive remarks so why do you think they should stay home indefinitely to please you?

CrazyOldRanga
CrazyOldRanga
October 16, 2021 8:14 am

<blockquotehmm wonder what his religion could be? I can give you a clue, Somalia doesn’t have any Christians, Jews, Hindus and Buddhists.

Scientoligist maybe?

CrazyOldRanga
CrazyOldRanga
October 16, 2021 8:15 am

Block quote fail 🙁

It’s the nano wrigglers I tells ya.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 16, 2021 8:16 am

457 visas should be restricted to companies with limited purchasing power.
That is, small business.
It’s not perfect, but it would stop the industrialised rorting.

cuckoo
cuckoo
October 16, 2021 8:16 am

I love the way the ABC/SBS/Age, whenever they have to report on ALP branch stacking, open their statement by helpfully reminding us that ‘it’s not illegal!’ One online ABC article actually had this as a bolded standout headline. But only a week ago they were screaming about tax minimizers and the ‘Pandora papers’ as if they’d just found Adolf Hitler living in Argentina. And then buried down in the 23rd paragraph is the note that nothing these people were doing was illegal.

rosie
rosie
October 16, 2021 8:17 am

So would I calli, or get them here without having to endure two weeks quarantine if they were allowed to return, which currently afaik they are not.

calli
calli
October 16, 2021 8:17 am

I also have a holiday lined up early next year – SA > NT > QLD.

We’ve put it off twice now. Bet it’s third time unlucky too. I don’t want to be caught unable to get home in my own country.

Eyrie
Eyrie
October 16, 2021 8:19 am

I have an Australian Passport

Interesting Political relic. May be of interest to some historian one day.

cuckoo
cuckoo
October 16, 2021 8:20 am

Just as the ‘muslim convert’ who killed 5 mostly elderly people with a bow and arrow in Norway is now the pretext to remind everyone about Anders Bering Brevik, so every article I’ve seen about the Conservative MP murdered by a Somali turns into an article about the Labour MP who was stabbed five years ago.

Indolent
Indolent
October 16, 2021 8:21 am

Would that suffice?

Apparently not.

struth
struth
October 16, 2021 8:22 am

Are you talking about people perhaps intending to travel overseas st ruth?
You’re already told people to get blood clots and die, they only have a few months to live, are evil and made numerous other abusive remarks so why do you think they should stay home indefinitely to please you?

Try to keep the hysterical, emotional, illogical responses and lies out of it when you are talking to a male.

Eyrie
Eyrie
October 16, 2021 8:22 am

More on the port backlog in Commiefornia:

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/empty-christmas-stockings-dont-blame-covid-blame-california

As for Pete Buttigieg and “husband”. Barf. So he’s a catcher not a pitcher.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 16, 2021 8:23 am

callisays:

October 16, 2021 at 8:17 am

I also have a holiday lined up early next year – SA > NT > QLD.

Won’t that mean the inevitable use of a vax passport somewhere along the way?
Unless you are planning to travel and sleep in an MX5 with the windows sealed shut.

calli
calli
October 16, 2021 8:24 am
Cassie of Sydney
October 16, 2021 8:24 am

And further to Tom’s Daily Mail link….Boris the Clown has said…

“Prime Minister Boris Johnson, meanwhile, said all our hearts are filled with ‘shock‘ and ‘sadness‘, as he reacted to the loss of the stalwart Conservative MP.

Returning to Downing Street to address the shocking news after a Cabinet away-day in Bristol, the PM said: ‘All our hearts are full of shock and sadness. “

Where’s the ANGER Boris? Until people’s hearts are full of anger this will continue. Bit by bit this hideous death cult will chip away and destroy the west…how? With screams and screeches of racism every time you try and criticise their violent ideology, with knifings, with stabbings, with shooting bow and arrows at people in supermarkets, with bombs filled with nails to blow up little girls at a pop concert, with Jewish children murdered outside a school, with trucks being driven into crowds of people, with an elderly couple decapitated in their home and on and on it goes. I don’t know about others but I’m sick and tired of being “shocked” and “sad”…..we need anger, we need to stand up and say enough. But we won’t because we’ve lost the will to fight, we’ll just continue to be shocked and saddened and they’ll continue to laugh and plan more attacks.

Eyrie
Eyrie
October 16, 2021 8:25 am

Penetrating trauma needs a surgeon, not a gaggle of baggy arsed ambos faffing about.

Maybe they pumped him dry.

struth
struth
October 16, 2021 8:26 am

Anzac……I’ll go to war to defend my civilisation, I’m prepared to die.
2021……I’m not postponing my holidays!!!! Fuck Australia.

calli
calli
October 16, 2021 8:27 am

Won’t that mean the inevitable use of a vax passport somewhere along the way?

I have the terrible feeling that it might, Sancho.

They aren’t going to let this tragic charade go in a hurry. It will be no different than the restrictions of movement we saw in C20th europe.

We have home-grown tyrants now.

struth
struth
October 16, 2021 8:27 am

That’s ok son, they have bombs but we have flowers.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 16, 2021 8:29 am

Does Japan accept all vaccines?
What champagne is served by JAL in Business Class?
Is spring or autumn best in Japan?
So many questions.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 16, 2021 8:31 am

Uh.

With every post of yours you sound more & more like that lantern jawed ‘female’ copper from your home patch, who I had to school.

What?

Besides always keening to be seen spitting & scratching at who the mean girls spit & scratch at, you’re so easily led into school yard comebacks.

What? I’m on Team Mean Girls now?

But then, you do seem to like the ‘ladies’ who make men fight over them

What? Explain yourself, you gigantic nuffie.

just how right you know I was to simply be seen, quietly, happily, along side the family (that included a VERY Pregnant woman), keeping the calm & dignity on the very public side of we sane, free breathers.

Quietly, happily, while they were screamed at. By a… MAN. Allegedly. If this story had a breath of truth in it, speaking of free breathers. There are people here who would call that treasonous cowardice. I’m not one of them, but hey. As long as you’re still the simultaneous hero and victim, that would be fine.

Your sad,”Pfft”, also indicates just how much you (like a number of the other tin suited white knights), are seen as the simps you are, not ‘punching on with other men’ to ‘protect & defend’ your ‘ladies’

I don’t know what fantasy land you live in, you insane shut-in. I rarely punch on with anyone, and there’s even less chance I’d do it for random women I don’t know.

And they’re not ‘my ladies’. That sounded awfully like ‘women are property’. Stop smoking the pot pourri, you stupid alfoil-clad old woman. Get back to me when you’ve finished licking all the windows.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 16, 2021 8:31 am

I have the terrible feeling that it might, Sancho.

Gasp!!
So you are planning to submit to this Apartheid TyRaNny?
Just to see family?

Dot
Dot
October 16, 2021 8:31 am

Tim Pool sez:

Bare Shelf Biden, the macroeconomic COVID Grinch, has stolen Christmas.

*You’ve been naughty, citizens…five years ago you dared to not vote for our highly augmented, botox betty establishment replicon lizard bot, now you’ll pay…*

Starts off strong. “You’d have to be in a cult to think the US economy is doing well…

Yeezy energy.

https://youtu.be/07zZOur_-hU

struth
struth
October 16, 2021 8:34 am

Gasp!!
So you are planning to submit to this Apartheid TyRaNny?
Just to see family?

Said with total ignorance to what submitting to this tyranny will end up doing to your family.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 16, 2021 8:37 am

Your personal freedom isn’t worth anything unless it is exercised in precisely the way I prescribe.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 16, 2021 8:37 am

They aren’t going to let this tragic charade go in a hurry.

Yep.

“Expert” Calls For Denying Life-Saving Hospital Treatment To The Unvaccinated (15 Oct)

The inner fascists have been unleashed in a way I never would’ve thought possible. Literal mass insanity. It extends to the climate tragics too. Quite amazing.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 16, 2021 8:38 am

Try to keep the hysterical, emotional, illogical responses and lies out of it when you are talking to a male.

Still winning people over to the cause, I see.

struth
struth
October 16, 2021 8:39 am

Your personal freedom isn’t worth anything unless it is exercised in precisely the way I prescribe.

Attacking the messenger when the message, stated by thousands of people throughout the history of humanity, isn’t liked.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 16, 2021 8:39 am

Your personal freedom isn’t worth anything unless it is exercised in precisely the way I prescribe.

Preferably by vetted form letter.

A significant body of work is underway and under review in this space by that cohort.

calli
calli
October 16, 2021 8:40 am

I didn’t say that, Sancho.

I’ve already had one knock-down, drag-out about use of these hideous “passports” for holidaying in my own country. To the point where sir told me he’d go alone and leave me behind. Yikes.

So I’m contemplating being a double vaxxed Job and sitting on the dung heap, the mullet of shame growing ever longer, grinding my righteous teeth while he enjoys the bright lights of Darwin. Or, even worse, he stays home with said dog in the manger wife.

Miserable whichever way you put it. Thanks tyrants. Real champs.

lotocoti
lotocoti
October 16, 2021 8:41 am

turns into an article about the Labour MP who was stabbed five years ago.

By a right-wing terroristno less, according to the Daily Snail.
Left-wing terrorist won’t get a run,
but I’m confident lone wolf and mental health issues will.

Dot
Dot
October 16, 2021 8:41 am

Vaccines are my line.

Why?

If the States have these levels of unfettered power and the Commonwealth and courts abide, what else can they or will they do?

The Veritas stuff coming out now is very damning. Which is why the vaccines were pushed so hard. Pfizer had NO immune response in some test subjects, senior scientific management did not care.

Compare them to Novavax or Sputnik.

Ethically produced, ACTUALLY safe and effective.

Not approved yet or banned by omission.

It’s not just about “climate passports”.

It is about a total change to a totalitarian technocratic surveillance state.

No smokes, limited booze, limited sugar (still subsidised), control of the internet, rabid firearms control, conyrolled and approved speech, social credit…you betcha.

This is about asserting dominance and nothing else.

The left ought to go back to the somewhat ad libbed lines of Stephen Fry in V for Vendetta.

PS, K.D., why are the pretty ones always crazy?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 16, 2021 8:42 am

Said with total ignorance to what submitting to this tyranny will end up doing to your family.

The damage is already done. Are you seriously suggesting people never see their families again?

Weren’t you going to crash border control points in Kenworths to see your own family in South Australia? What happened to that? Surely it wasn’t all talk?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 16, 2021 8:42 am

So, Calli, once you are vaxed, you are not going to be sitting at home in the sackcloth and ashes as a gesture of solidarity?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 16, 2021 8:44 am

why are the pretty ones always crazy?

Sigh. I know right?

calli
calli
October 16, 2021 8:46 am

Sackcloth and ashes was the idea, Sancho. Not going until all can go.

Apparently my gestures of solidarity with the unvaxxed aren’t righteous enough. I look on my phone and here is the third reminder to register with NSW health after the first shot. Still reluctant to do it. Make ‘em wait.

Cassie of Sydney
October 16, 2021 8:47 am

Today I’m seeing my sister for the first time since mid June 2021. Tonight she’s having a family dinner….with sons, wives, girlfriends, puppy dogs all invited. She lives in the inner-west but you’d have thought she lived in Pyongyang. I now understand how families felt when, at the border between east and west Berlin, families were occasionally allowed to meet up.

struth
struth
October 16, 2021 8:47 am

Frank, you are a weak POS…….how’s that for winning people over to the cause?
Naughty spoiled insulated brats don’t like the truth or reality.
But adults know, you are doing the worst thing for your families by submitting to tyranny.

I want to see my interstate elderly parents too, it keeps me up at night, they are old and frail and need help, and there is no one about to help them.
But submitting is not an option and they will not submit either.
Go on your fucking holidays, flash your Nazi approved papers, but don’t get miffed when people point out what you are………seems you people want it all.
No responsibility taken, no civic duty displayed, while no criticism tolerated!
If it were war, you’d be shot in the back for surrendering when the rest of the army is still fighting.

Dot
Dot
October 16, 2021 8:48 am

Keep in mind the authoritarian moral busybodies across the left and right in the past 30 years have destroyed the judicial system set up by Gladstone, Dicey, the Glorious Revolution, Sir Edward Coke…and we have moved back to something more akin to Stuart and Tudor tyranny.

Indictable offences triable as summary offences.
Degradation of the jury system and the presumption of innocence.
Absurdly high fines.
Morally wrong and insane strict and absolute liability offences.
Civil penalties, which should be straight up banned constitutionally.

Let’s not forget bad and stupid watershed decisions like Cole v Whitfield and Palmer v WA, or Pape v Commonwealth.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 16, 2021 8:49 am

Apparently my gestures of solidarity with the unvaxxed aren’t righteous enough.

Here’s a tip.
They never will be.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 16, 2021 8:51 am

If it were war, you’d be shot in the back for surrendering when the rest of the army is still fighting.

That is interesting.
The Vax-Karens have a very similar line of patter directed at vax hold-outs.
Should I send you a postcard?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 16, 2021 8:53 am

Cassie of Sydneysays:

October 16, 2021 at 8:47 am

Today I’m seeing my sister for the first time since mid June 2021.

You bloody turncoat TyRaNny enabler!

Dot
Dot
October 16, 2021 8:54 am

Sancho: did you get Pfizer?

The PhD biologist dude who worked there said it doesn’t work.

Take some quercetin & vitamins C and D with you on your travels and travails. :smiley:

rosie
rosie
October 16, 2021 8:56 am

This is what happens when you directly quote actual comments made by lord high executioner struff over the last several months.
And strangely enough me and my family don’t care a hoot about your histrionics.

struth
struth
October 16, 2021 8:57 am

Are you seriously suggesting people never see their families again?

The question comes from a position that we’ve already surrendered and lost.

So, when you get told you can’t travel because you have eaten meat, or used up your carbon points, or any bullshit they come up in the future, (imagine what it will be like for our kids and grandkids, it’s great to know you flashed your papers to the Nazis for a holiday.
It’s hard not to see your relatives, but in your mind, as ol’ knuckles here shows, you are already defeated and surrendered, and in doing so, your family and your children will suffer so much more.
I wish there was an alternative, but there isn’t.
And the grown ups know it.

rosie
rosie
October 16, 2021 8:58 am

La la la

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 16, 2021 8:58 am

Just as the ‘muslim convert’ who killed 5 mostly elderly people with a bow and arrow in Norway

Predictably predictable:

Norway attacker to undergo psychiatric evaluation (16 Oct)

The Somali will get the same treatment, betcha.

struth
struth
October 16, 2021 8:58 am

That is interesting.
The Vax-Karens have a very similar line of patter directed at vax hold-outs.
Should I send you a postcard?

What does that tell you then, you thick bastard.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 16, 2021 8:59 am

I almost got my tiny violin out for that poor Phoebe Burgess woman. Those poor football WAGs.

rosie
rosie
October 16, 2021 9:00 am

You’re all idiots?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 16, 2021 9:00 am

Dotsays:

October 16, 2021 at 8:54 am

Sancho: did you get Pfizer?

Still debating whether to vax or which one (if I have a choice).
Have always been leaning towards getting vaxed, but not in any great hurry.

struth
struth
October 16, 2021 9:03 am

Frank , you’ll get the jab at the first sign of pressure.
You’ll be lifting your dress and bending over and they’ll say no, your arm will do fine.

rosie
rosie
October 16, 2021 9:03 am

I know a couple of people keen on novovax but the company is currently dragging its heels taking it to regulators.
Did well in trials too.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 16, 2021 9:03 am

Godwin alert!
Godwin alert!!

Indolent
Indolent
October 16, 2021 9:05 am

This is about asserting dominance and nothing else.

Don’t forget exploitation for profit. Otherwise, 100% correct.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 16, 2021 9:05 am

The Mo crew know who’s on their side.

rosie
rosie
October 16, 2021 9:06 am
Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 16, 2021 9:06 am

you’ll get the jab at the first sign of pressure

Been on record as saying I am leaning towards it for …
Wait!
Why am I talking to you about it.
My body. My choice.
Come on!
Wish that blood clot curse down upon me.
You know you want to.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 16, 2021 9:08 am

I want to see my interstate elderly parents too, it keeps me up at night, they are old and frail and need help, and there is no one about to help them.

You are a fucking disgrace.

My father died in August. I watched his funeral, such as it was, on a laptop screen. Nine people were at it. My equally elderly mother, who now lives alone in her (and my) country Victorian town is not doing that well at all, having lost her companion of over 52 years.

To remedy that – despite my very strong ideological and practical objections – and because everything’s not about me, I had my first jab on 22 September and the second on Wednesday.

Because I’m returning to the ancestral seat in December to spend a few weeks with the woman who raised me, and to visit my father’s grave (for the first and potentially last time), and they are the only reasons. Not to keep working in a cube, and not to see the Aurora Borealis from the deck of a cruise ship.

I am NOT having my sainted, recently-widowed mother dying alone in her house – and she will, whether next year, or ten years from now – without having seen her firstborn since 2019 because some busking bread van driver in Queensland said so.

So. I have a question for you, St.Ruth.

Who the FUCK do you think you are to tell me I can’t go and see my remaining parent? I have in no way endorsed TyRanhy. It’s not for personal gain. It’s to maintain and strengthen family bonds, not break them as these idiot governments are intent on doing. If that means having a jab that didn’t kill me (and won’t, because history has repeatedly demonstrated that I am unkillable) then so be it.

Situations like the one calli finds herself in take more courage than you can dream of. Now fuck off and write me a protest song. Preferably a poorly-made cover, so you don’t have to put too much thought into it.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 16, 2021 9:10 am

when the rest of the army is still fighting.

Presumably with some standing, and if necessary falling as well.

With that all-important caveat – ‘when we have a chance of winning’. Right?

Here’s another one. ‘Socialism has sat me on my arse.’ Rattle that spray can.

rosie
rosie
October 16, 2021 9:11 am

NSW are going to allow unvaxxed international arrivals, capped at 210 a week and must do hotel quarantine.
Some airlines must be willing to carry unvaxxed passengers.

Makka
Makka
October 16, 2021 9:11 am

It’s not perfect, but it would stop the industrialised rorting.

I see RIO are making their case for imported labour, reducing production guidance due to “manpower shortages”.

lotocoti
lotocoti
October 16, 2021 9:12 am

It’s been grimly amusing watching the language is violence crowd
scrambling around with the goalposts, following the murder of Sir David Amess.
The excrable John McDonnell’s pro forma drew some unpleasant reminders of his past form:

“I want to be in a situation where no Tory MP, no coalition minister, can travel anywhere in the country, or show their face anywhere in public, without being challenged, without direct action.”

Apparently a call for direct action from the man who wanted to lynch Maggie T and kneecap anyone who opposed Sinn Fein,
isn’t actually a call for that sort of direct action direct action,
in language-is-violence world.

Indolent
Indolent
October 16, 2021 9:13 am

Wait!
Why am I talking to you about it.
My body. My choice.

Why don’t you take that line to Morrison? That’s all we really want. Government out of our medical choices.

Rabz
October 16, 2021 9:13 am

he was brutally stabbed to death

Err, is there a non brutally way to stab a person to death?

And, no, I’m not making light of that regrettable incident.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
October 16, 2021 9:13 am

That version of Telegraph Road was superb BoN. It sounded like an old man in the the last moments making peace with his God. On the the other hand that version of Kashmir (one of my songs) was mediocre, lost its edge. Listen to the Knebworth version. Just wow.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
October 16, 2021 9:15 am

Sad to hear Sir Dragonet was put down.
It’s cruel to let an animal go on with a mobility injury.
Allowing Sir TaliDan to survive has only caused misery and hardship.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 16, 2021 9:17 am

By not crashing your bread van into the roadblock at the border, St. Ruth, (like you said you would) you’ve submitted to TyRannY. You’re right where they want you.

The warrior poet. Yap yap yap.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 16, 2021 9:17 am

Quite so, KD.
Truth is, many people find themselves in similar positions and have to make those choices.
The point is, rambling diatribes from ‘busking bread-van drivers’ (snort) are not in the top 50 factors in the decision process.
I honestly think that is where the anger comes from.
It is a rising feeling of impotence which can’t be expressed so must be dressed in a thin cloak of patriotism.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
October 16, 2021 9:18 am

During the last mining boom in my field, 457’s were responsible for a large influx of mainly Pom’s and Americans with some Chinese and Africans. A few consultancies specialised in headhunting them. The results were very hit and miss. Some were on an extended holiday and had 1 eye on break where they were partying next on the Queensland coast, some very good and were obviously looking at staying if they could. Problem was I knew of Australians trying to break in and spending months longer than necessary to land a job. Most places wanted 2 years experience, big business doesn’t want the bother of training people.

Towards the end of my last tenure in Queensland post 457 visas when the visa system morphed I noticed the influx of sub continental professionals, most were next to useless I’m afraid to say. My opinion of that hasn’t changed. We may be getting quantity but not quality.

As for that immigration site linked, proves what a joke the system is, sportsman… Really, anything due to the arts should be scrapped with prejudice. Also why not just drop the charade, there’s not a whole more vocations left to add. The Uniparty is going to continue the course despite overwhelming public opposition to the present immigration levels and refugee intake.

Indolent
Indolent
October 16, 2021 9:18 am

Because I’m returning to the ancestral seat in December to spend a few weeks with the woman who raised me, and to visit my father’s grave (for the first and potentially last time), and they are the only reasons. Not to keep working in a cube, and not to see the Aurora Borealis from the deck of a cruise ship.

I do so understand and they should be whipped up and down the street by everyone forced into such a decision.

However, you’re missing Struth’s point. If you submit it will only be the first of many such decisions, each one more onerous than the last. The only possible way out is to nip it in the bud by refusing to co-operate before they get the system bedded down, after which there’ll be no choice at all.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 16, 2021 9:19 am

Err, is there a non brutally way to stab a person to death?

Yes.
It’s called surgical malpractice.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 16, 2021 9:19 am

As if it needed to be said, I am fiercely against mandatory vaccinations.

I chose to get vaxxed. It would appear I got the one that doesn’t work, but that’s okay because it’s really hard to vaccinate against a cold.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 16, 2021 9:19 am

Their ABCcess news,
A mentally ill Danish citizen did the arrow murders….

This news brought to you by OzVichy news services…

Arky
October 16, 2021 9:19 am

So I’m contemplating being a double vaxxed Job and sitting on the dung heap, the mullet of shame growing ever longer, grinding my righteous teeth while he enjoys the bright lights of Darwin. Or, even worse, he stays home with said dog in the manger wife.

..
Divorce his sad arse.

Rabz
October 16, 2021 9:20 am

The warrior poet.

Inspired by the Vogons, he be.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
October 16, 2021 9:21 am

Makkasays:
October 16, 2021 at 9:11 am
It’s not perfect, but it would stop the industrialised rorting.

I see RIO are making their case for imported labour, reducing production guidance due to “manpower shortages”.

There are no manpower shortages in Aus, just lazy buggers being paid too much not to work.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 16, 2021 9:21 am

Ranga – I really shouldn’t do music vids on a Friday night because I have earworms for weeks afterwards.

Indolent
Indolent
October 16, 2021 9:21 am

NSW are going to allow unvaxxed international arrivals

Really? Big of them. How about allowing unvaxxed locals to live normal lives?

Mak Siccar
Mak Siccar
October 16, 2021 9:22 am
Diogenes
Diogenes
October 16, 2021 9:24 am

Some airlines must be willing to carry unvaxxed passengers.

Don’t know if it applies to flights to Oz, but I heard somewhere that Singapore Airlines offers vaxxed and unvaxxed flights.

rosie
rosie
October 16, 2021 9:25 am

Can’t Queenslanders currently travel to and from South Australia and vise versa without restrictions, other than the completion of a form? The South Australian government website didn’t say anything about vaccine restrictions, just zones.

Dot
Dot
October 16, 2021 9:27 am

Breadvan are my favourite NWOBHM and country pub folk music act.

Makka
Makka
October 16, 2021 9:27 am

However, you’re missing Struth’s point. If you submit it will only be the first of many such decisions, each one more onerous than the last. The only possible way out is to nip it in the bud by refusing to co-operate before they get the system bedded down, after which there’ll be no choice at all.

The fact is most people threw their lot in with the Man long ago. Credit cards, mortgages, the o/seas holidays, keeping up with the Joneses. Debt up to the eyeballs. To service it there can be no interruption whatsoever to income. Then there is the family ties spread across the wide brown land. That’s life as we know it and for it to continue the turds governing us know the vast majority will comply just to get on with it. The bud has blossomed and died long ago.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 16, 2021 9:27 am

Marvelous story:

When 2 Parents Tried To Make Their Young Daughter Practice What Greta Preaches…All Hell Broke Loose! (15 Oct)

I fervently hope they don’t get reported to the social services Karens.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
October 16, 2021 9:28 am

Mandatory mastectomies’ for the over 40s.
Mandatory lap band surgery for fat bastards.

Because using this judges ‘reasoning” if a government wants to do so, and does so to an entire population group then your bodily autonomy must be sacrificed for the common good.

And if they choose to make it voluntary by removing your rights to work, associate or travel then when you give in it was voluntary.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-15/judge-rules-out-challenges-to-nsw-covid-19-vaccination-orders/100543888
“So far as the right to bodily integrity is concerned, it is not violated as the impugned orders do not authorise the involuntary vaccination of anyone,” he said.

The orders imposed “blanket prohibitions” while offering exemption for the vaccinated, the State argued, meaning they incentivised vaccination but did not mandate it.
….
The judge found that if an order was made interfering with freedom of movement and differentiating on “arbitrary grounds” unrelated to public health risks, such as race or gender, it would be at “severe risk” of being found to be invalid.

So miners being made to have jabs, and the reasoning being touted is “because they are near Aboriginals” would be fine.

Diogenes
Diogenes
October 16, 2021 9:29 am

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-13/when-is-the-novavax-vaccine-coming-to-australia-/100532184

This is bad news. When asked I say I am waiting for Novavax as Novavax is the only one that remotely changes the risk side of my risk/reward calculation.

Dot
Dot
October 16, 2021 9:30 am

Makka Johnson is right…but also based, woke AF and very black pilled.

(insert dead wojak smiley)

Tom
Tom
October 16, 2021 9:30 am

Spot on, KD at 9.08am.

Alas, the tyrants who now run Australia have made us turn on each other — exactly as they intended.

Bons
October 16, 2021 9:30 am

Depressed/Frightened,
Just back from my semi-regular cultural briefing by the Sunrise Set – hairdressers:
So greatful to Anna for keeping us safe;
Our NSW people keep saying that they are coming to
visit, I don’t want them here;
Covid is frightening (unspoken response “it’s harmless
to people who are brain dead”)
Poor Prince Charles never given a fair go, at least now
people are taking notice of him;
In response to my poked bear low-level growling!
Well at least Harry was clever and got out. Did you
watch him and Megan on Netflix?
I ask myself why I keep putting myself through this every few weeks. Truth is it is the closest thing to a BDSM session that a frail old body can tolerate.

Zipster
Zipster
October 16, 2021 9:30 am

Sports sh**ting licence. Is this the best way to get a high powered item? Seems that primary production reasons for owning said item limits what you can own. Are there any valid reasons for semi-aut*matics?

Arky
October 16, 2021 9:31 am

Who the FUCK do you think you are to tell me I can’t go and see my remaining parent?

..
It’s not anyone on here doing that. No one on this blog can literally force you to do anything. At all.
It’s the government. The same government which makes it impossible for me to see my mother who has had a stroke, a fall and hip surgery this year.
I don’t begrudge you seeing yours, but keep in mind when you do all of us who can’t, and who it was that put us all in this position.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 16, 2021 9:33 am

From the “Australian.”

It’s the soldiers who make our special forces special HARRY MOFFITT

11:00PM October 15, 2021
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It was Trotsky who said: “You may not be interested in war, but war is interested in you.” Just ask those Australians and their families touched by the past 20 years of war. Despite the nostalgia and open wounds left by Australia’s longest war, now is the time for our defence force to be focused on the future and “re-org”. And, as we saw in the Afghan evacuation, our SAS has a critical role to play in preparing for the next threat.

Senator Jim Molan in a recent article stated: “Many ordinary Australians … are awakening to the sombre reality that war is not just possible in our region, but ­likely.” It is easy to pass off such commentary about the threats in our region as alarmism. However, our defence force is in the business of training and preparing for war – including having our most experienced war fighters being fully prepared and available.

Here is the problem. Many of our best are leaving.

I discharged from the Australian Defence Force in 2019, after 30 years in the military and the Special Air Service Regiment. In my final years, I grew increasingly concerned about the over-reliance on technology and equipment, ­including indoor video games for shooting practice and virtual reality for combat simulation.

The benefits of technology noted, the risk is the erosion of not only martial skills and capability, but the resilience and toughness required of frontline soldiers. For example, Australia used to be counted among the best jungle war fighters on the planet. Our SAS won renown as “Phantoms of the Jungle”. Of late, I have been contacted by lone voices, some from our most esteemed training facilities, who have concerns about major gaps in jungle warfare skills. And our region is full of jungles.

While excessive sums of money are spent on aircraft that don’t fly, submarines that don’t swim, and technology that mentally overloads our troops, my sense is that we are less than optimal in terms of closing with a foe who will give us no quarter.

The corporate knowledge and skills we have built up fighting war for the past 20 or 30 years is walking or being marched out the door. At least this seems to be the case in the SAS Regiment.

Of course, there is no wishing away the investigation into war crimes in Afghanistan. The allegations are of the gravest nature and must be investigated. Ultimately, the regiment serves our country to uphold sacred values within a democratic system. Each member, beholden to the primary unit value of integrity, must be prepared to stand accountable as stewards and beneficiaries of its name and reputation. The SAS Regiment above all others must be the most accountable, given the trust and confidence afforded it by the Aus­tralian public. So above any individual, the regiment holds ­absolute primacy.

I am confident that all those involved – alleged wrongdoers, ­presumed whistleblowers – will ­receive their opportunity to ­represent themselves justly. An ­independent justice system is what many in the profession of arms have fought and died for.

Unfortunately, the public trial has commenced. However, I’m talking about a different cohort of soldiers; those who are not under criminal investigation.

In the swirling public commentary around the regiment, there are factions marking their ground, some unwittingly distributing misinformation. However, my concern is that Defence appears to be using the investigation as an opportunity to take a fire hose to the SAS Regiment. Some of our finest future leaders in SAS and in Special Operations Command have been wrung through external and internal leaks and subsequently “encouraged” to step aside. Others for no more than having a beer on operations.

By these standards, generations who have fought in World War I to Vietnam would have much to ­answer for. The risk is the loss of hundreds of years of warfighting experience for mistakes that pale into insignificance when compared to the years of service given. It has taken decades to find and build these intelligent, mentally tough, physically hard warriors and leaders.

Defence must recognise how they helped carry our defence force through the Afghan campaign. Through more than a decade of exhausting, daily firefights across thousands of missions, against a remorseless enemy whose grotesque intent and potency were on full display at the gates of Kabul airport recently.

The investigation notwithstanding, we should be examining the experience and skills developed over the past 20 years, particularly when parts of our defence force retain little or no combat experience. Australian mothers and fathers want to know their sons and daughters who choose to serve their country have the chance to learn from those who want to give back.

Those being “encouraged” to leave rightly feel betrayed and are unlikely to come back to share the long and hard-earned lessons of frontline warfighting and command. Defence might rethink this.

Our military leaders have been disappointing. Not one has stepped forward to defend the regiment and the broader SAS community’s honour. Indeed, ­Defence has been silent, leaving room for rumour and speculation. We need strong leaders prepared to state their case, explain their ­actions and, most importantly, train and prepare our soldiers for future wars. A good start would be to prioritise spending on our humans over hardware.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 16, 2021 9:34 am
Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
October 16, 2021 9:35 am

Grey Ranga indeed but companies still want their cake and to eat it. Rio is another example. They also have the pull to make it happen, I did hear when I did contracts for BHP that the CEO had a direct line to the Premier. Probably overhyped union BS but the company due to it size and holding did and still does have some huge sway.

Megan
Megan
October 16, 2021 9:36 am

I believe Emirates and Qatar are taking unvaxxed passengers.

Good business practice – never turn your nose up at a paying passenger.

Rabz
October 16, 2021 9:36 am

Breadvan are my favourite NWOBHM and country pub folk music act.

They’re nowhere near as good as Chickentruck, Pol.

Dot
Dot
October 16, 2021 9:38 am

We should be kind, but at least polite to each other.

Who in the press or Parliament is our friend?

Now, shooting the messenger is one thing, but show trials even before a “revolution” is comically sad.

Imagine Tsar Nick in 1928: welp, those Bolsheviks and Mensheviks all executed each other, now Russia is a prosperous liberal, yet still paternalistic democracy, with high levels of civil rights and prosperity…

Now imagine what enemies of principled liberalism and conservatism can say in 2040…well, we got our police state – anyone opposed to this ending up fighting with each other and never had any cut through with the public…

Rabz
October 16, 2021 9:38 am

never turn your nose up at a paying passenger

Well done, Megs – that reminds me, need to go and try and get that long overdue hair cut.

Three and a half months under house arrest and I now look like a 70 year old derro.

Thanks, Hitlerists!

Arky
October 16, 2021 9:40 am

Knuckle Draggersays:
October 16, 2021 at 9:19 am
As if it needed to be said, I am fiercely against mandatory vaccinations.

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…and I’m against getting vigorously rooted up the back passage by giraffes.
The question isn’t where your opion lies, but when the time comes that giraffes are coming at you with their enormous todgers out what are you doing to prevent it?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 16, 2021 9:40 am

Arky:

No one on this blog can literally force you to do anything. At all.

Bang on. As mole’s link earlier said, it’s largely incentivisation. Doesn’t make it better, but I refuse to be lectured on the matter by lute-strumming tyre pumpers from across the country with no skin in the game. Couchill, not Churchill.

I don’t begrudge you seeing yours, but keep in mind when you do all of us who can’t, and who it was that put us all in this position.

Oh, I haven’t forgetten. And no. No, I will will not forget.

Megan
Megan
October 16, 2021 9:41 am

Same here, Diogenes @9.29am.

But that is an ABC report so chances of truthfulness is exceedingly low.

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