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JC
JC
October 26, 2021 12:47 am

Tesla

All time high and market cap almost a trillion dollars. FMD

Market cap $960 billion

$956 a share. Just wow.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

All time high and market cap almost a trillion dollars. FMD
Market cap $960 billion
$956 a share. Just wow.

How much of that has to be paid to Brandon under Granny Yellen’s proposal?

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
October 26, 2021 12:54 am

@sancho

When will Dan Andrews not be running Victoria????

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
October 26, 2021 12:59 am

Solar Panels are a theft of taxpayer money and rely upon the Nuclear Sun.

prove me wrong.

JC
JC
October 26, 2021 1:06 am

Driller fuck off . Stop quoting my stuff. Any association with you destroys comments.

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There exists a stock with stable earnings producing a steady 8% div per year.
British American Tobacco.
🙂

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

From reading upthread it seems JC is experiencing quite some humiliation at having told by about half the Cat that he’s as odious as Bird…
.. followed by being the subject of a full day of serious discussion about whether he should be banned from the Cat for being a wanker.

Not many have achieved that. Numbers, Bird, & now JC.

Quite some company the free market of the Cat has put him into.

JC
JC
October 26, 2021 1:27 am

Reading upthread it seems Driller needs to be interviewed by cops and the given a mental health assessment.

Says he 28 guns and threats posted on a blog against banking stuff.

Driller stop being parasite and go find your own stuff to post.

There are five or so people who deserve a ban and one of them is you. You’re poison to any blog you go near.

Moreover twice today you’ve quoted stuff I’ve posted . Stop it and don’t go near it as you’ll be warned off each time. You parasite.

JC
JC
October 26, 2021 1:38 am

Owns

C.L.
C.L.
October 26, 2021 1:43 am

Tesla

All time high and market cap almost a trillion dollars. FMD

Market cap $960 billion

$956 a share. Just wow.

JC, I thought immediately of something Greg Sheridan wrote last week:

Australian defence policy now resembles a speculative mining stock at the height of a minerals boom. Whatever you do, don’t drill, was the speculator’s mantra. As soon as you drill, you destroy share value.

Whatever you do, Telsa, don’t manufacture a product meant for the masses.

JC
JC
October 26, 2021 1:49 am

CL

LOL… look, I was shocked when I saw the price and the market cap as I hadn’t looked at it for a while and now it’s here.

The bet appears to be that the market believes the future will be electric and Tesla is in the drivers seat (pun alert)for the higher end range car. It has the best gross operating margin in the car business with decent and growing sales.

I’m confounded as anyone but there we are.

rosie
rosie
October 26, 2021 1:49 am

I’m really looking forward to the 1st of November now.
Something big is going to happen.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

One nickname solved: Driller = JC’s name for himself.
Handy to know. This will be remembered for .. oh… 3 seconds.

Rooster-erection is a far more apt name.

JC
JC
October 26, 2021 1:57 am

Driller, you’re drunk and depressed. Go to bed. We know you by now.

Seriously, this is all you fucking do on blogs. You stoush troll and quote stuff other people have posted and then comment on it. Stop stoush trolling and go find some material that will be interesting and works for others to read . Stop being a nasty parasitical slob with those stupid ticks and phony “fact check: true” bullshit. Better still just disappear completely.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

Wow, I’ve really got under your skin.
That was too easy.

JC
JC
October 26, 2021 2:02 am

No you haven’t. You annoy me and you’re so dishonest to the core.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

Sure, keep protesting.

You haven’t mummy-blogged in a while. Don’t let me stop you.
How about posting a quick update on the fashion choice in shoes of the dudes at the coffee shop?
Like, now that Melbourne is free & y’all can get back to admiring each other’s trousers & stuff like that.

FlyingPigs
FlyingPigs
October 26, 2021 2:28 am

Tesla, and there are others, would have to be the greatest taxpayer subsidised stock that has ever existed.

And to think that the East India Company didn’t get favorable treatment because of the stockholders is like saying that Black Africans didn’t round up other Black Africans to sell them into Slavery!

Tom
Tom
October 26, 2021 4:02 am
Tom
Tom
October 26, 2021 4:03 am
Tom
Tom
October 26, 2021 4:04 am
Tom
Tom
October 26, 2021 4:05 am
Tom
Tom
October 26, 2021 4:06 am
Tom
Tom
October 26, 2021 4:07 am
Tom
Tom
October 26, 2021 4:11 am
Tom
Tom
October 26, 2021 4:11 am
Tom
Tom
October 26, 2021 4:12 am
Tom
Tom
October 26, 2021 4:15 am
Tom
Tom
October 26, 2021 4:15 am
Tom
Tom
October 26, 2021 4:16 am
feelthebern
feelthebern
October 26, 2021 5:18 am

Mark Knight #1 awesome.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 26, 2021 5:19 am

Square Inc. said it purchased $170 million in Bitcoin, further committing to the cryptocurrency and raising its holdings to about 5% of the company’s cash and equivalents.

That’s it?
I thought it was a bill.
Ah well.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 26, 2021 5:21 am

Tesla joined the trillion dollar club.
Why do Australian tax payers have to subsidise their product to promote usage.

Mater
October 26, 2021 6:05 am

Had another specialist medical appointment yesterday.

Said specialist wanted to talk about the vaccines. Told me that I’m completely wrong about the fact that they’re all only ‘Provisionally Approval’.

Apparently a page advert in the weekend paper said they were all “fully approved”…so I’m wrong. FMD.

I told him that they’ve been saying that all year, from the Health Department to The Guardian, but that doesn’t make it true. I suggested he look it up on the TGA website, which he said he was going to do.

If this is the state of our medical fraternity who are advising and interacting with the public, we are in serious shit. He read it in the weekend papers? FMD#2

That’s three of my medical specialists that I’ve caught out. I’m gonna start running a book on how many I can get. Are they uninformed, misinformed or trying to slip one past me?

Winston Smith
October 26, 2021 6:14 am

‘Dillo!:

“You have no standing, you are at worst a traitor and at best an imbecile, the truth of which will be determined in due course,” Mr Bosi told the court.

Harsh but fair?

Look, I think Bosi may have a point – if not collectively of the profession, then at least in this particular case.

rosie
rosie
October 26, 2021 6:14 am
rosie
rosie
October 26, 2021 6:16 am

Why?
Because the magistrate is hearing a routine mask case ?
I guess we’ll find out in five days.

rosie
rosie
October 26, 2021 6:18 am

Bosi didn’t mention his conveyance.
Might be fatal to his otherwise extremely well put argument.

rosie
rosie
October 26, 2021 6:19 am
Dot
Dot
October 26, 2021 6:27 am

Whatever you do, don’t drill, was the speculator’s mantra. As soon as you drill, you destroy share value.

De Grey was completely opposite, so too, hopefully CAD.

rickw
rickw
October 26, 2021 6:30 am

First Beagles, now Monkeys:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ry8xVPkbESE

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 26, 2021 6:47 am

Has anyone seen Fauci & Michael Vick in the same room together?

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 26, 2021 6:51 am

Hertz buying 100,000 Tesla’s is meaningful.
But seriously, this is a religion now.

jupes
jupes
October 26, 2021 6:52 am

Exactly what does Fauci have to do to be sacked? How can someone so traitorous, deceitful, incompetent and dangerous not be in jail, let alone keep his job?

Winston Smith
October 26, 2021 6:54 am

rosie:

no magnesium for you

I was looking for the US Strategic Reserve of Minerals – but it can’t be found.
I vaguely remember there being a small stockpile <around 10,000 tons – in other words, bugger all.
There were squarkings from Europe when Germany shut down its last magnesium refinery in the early 2000's due to dumping, but nothing was done about it.
Australia appears to have lots of magnesium, but the issue is refining.
It seems to take lots of electricity and that particular issue is rapidly coming back to haunt us.
(I’m not 100% sure of the details.)
There’s a good map at the link above.

Cassie of Sydney
October 26, 2021 6:56 am

Mark Steyn on GB news overnight sums up comedy and the west….

Mark Steyn says Western civilisation is ‘sliding off a cliff’

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jU2zytBOL3M

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 26, 2021 6:59 am

Jupes – maybe you could ask Hunter Biden that question.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 26, 2021 7:01 am

Why is PETA running dead on Fauci.
Why is the ACLU selectively running dead on civil rights.
Bosi will tell us 5 days.
Is it Saturday the 30th or Sunday 31st ?

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 26, 2021 7:03 am

Exactly what does Fauci have to do to be sacked? How can someone so traitorous, deceitful, incompetent and dangerous not be in jail, let alone keep his job?

Tweet something mildly critical of Biden?

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 26, 2021 7:04 am

I’m not getting a hair cut until Monday so it looks like I’ll be looking unkept for the grand unveiling.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 26, 2021 7:10 am

Bosi’s news is that the Baby Shark song is actually Q speaking in code.
At 10bill views, the children of the world will know the truth.

Cassie of Sydney
October 26, 2021 7:18 am

“You have no standing, you are at worst a traitor and at best an imbecile, the truth of which will be determined in due course,” Mr Bosi told the court.

Magistrate Fahey told Mr Bosi “I’m fed up with this rubbish, I’m terminating this call”, before cutting his line.”

I’m sorry but you don’t win friends, followers and arguments through insults. The MSM are going to have a field day with Bosi and he’s now completely put the kibosh on any chance of ever appearing on any mainstream media such as Sky News.

Quite frankly I don’t blame the magistrate for putting the kibosh on Bosi’s ravings and rantings.

Cassie of Sydney
October 26, 2021 7:19 am

Today I get my haircut!

Amen.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 26, 2021 7:27 am

Magistrate Jack Fahey hung up on Riccardo Bosi, who appeared via phone from New South Wales on Monday.

By…. telephone. I had envisioned an address for the ages, one of those stirring courtroom (or parliamentary) dramatic events that stays with you for decades and is remembered by all forever.

He got about three lines in before the beak hung up on him, letting all the hydrogen out of that particular zeppelin. Didn’t even get to the revenge in six (five) days, secret oaths and no mercy bits.

I’m not saying magistrates shouldn’t pull their heads in, because they most certainly should.

However, this entire anticlimactic episode reminds me of people with no skin in the game who bark at other people from the other side of the country, who brand others traitors and that revenge will come from ‘We The People’.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 26, 2021 7:31 am

I’m visualising Bosi saying “You have no standing” in the same manner Gandalf yells “You shall not pass”.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 26, 2021 7:34 am

AZ.
Friday.
Booked.
Need vest.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
October 26, 2021 7:37 am

Re Bossi, a thing of beauty. A magisterial flounce. Whatever the rights and wrongs are, the judiciary in Australia in the majority are pathetic top to bottom.

Cassie of Sydney
October 26, 2021 7:37 am

I think I prefer Sir Thomas More’s address to the justice and bench from A Man for All Seasons…

“Not so. I am the king’s true subject, and I pray for him and all the realm.

I do none harm.

I say none harm.

I think none harm.

And if this be not enough to keep a man alive, then in good faith I long not to live.

Nevertheless, it is not for the Supremacy that you have sought my blood, but because I would not bend to the marriage!! “

I don’t think people will remember Bosi’s words in one hundred years….actually I don’t think people will dwell on his words in one year’s time.

Cassie of Sydney
October 26, 2021 7:39 am

” Whatever the rights and wrongs are, the judiciary in Australia in the majority are pathetic top to bottom.”

Actually, the judiciary did get something right on 7 April 2020.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
October 26, 2021 7:39 am

Have you got a nice coffin picked out and how much are you leaving on the bar Sancho.

JC
JC
October 26, 2021 7:41 am

Actually, the judiciary did get something right on 7 April 2020.

Cassie

Or more accurately they righted one their most egregious wrongs.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 26, 2021 7:42 am

When a magistrate sees someone disputing a mask fine, they’re going to have their back up already.
Zero chance he was going to get through his whole speech.
Poor old Bosi.
He leads with his chin.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 26, 2021 7:46 am

Wall Street is brutal.
Co head of Blackstone hedge funds is leaving.
A couple of quarters of non-top quartile performance & he’s gone.
I’m sure he’ll think over his next moves at his hamptons estate.

JC
JC
October 26, 2021 7:47 am

feelthebern says:
October 26, 2021 at 6:51 am
Hertz buying 100,000 Tesla’s is meaningful.
But seriously, this is a religion now.

All that and more Bern. The thing is though that if all these governments are signing onto zero emissions by 2050, the market by and large is possibly correct in ascribing that valuation for Tesla as they’re the leading brand tooled up for an electric future.

Cassie of Sydney
October 26, 2021 7:48 am

“Or more accurately they righted one their most egregious wrongs”

Yes.

Bar Beach Swimmer
October 26, 2021 7:48 am

Are they uninformed, misinformed or trying to slip one past me

Mater, I’ll take the last runner. There seems to be too much of the “government line” being run by the medical profession since the roll out began.

But by now many must have seen?/heard? about the numerous serious side effects, which should have warranted at the least a bit of private research, including taking a look at the source documents such as the TGA licensing arrangements. (I think JC referred to his cardiologist now seeing multiple cases of myocarditis/pericarditis in young men. If that’s not a warning light, what is?)

But nothing. Btw, someone from the AMA only said the other day that medical treatment of the unvaccinated should be refused. I know that statement drew pushback but the fact it was said should indicate more than being uninformed/misinformed.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 26, 2021 7:49 am

When a magistrate sees someone disputing a mask fine, they’re going to have their back up already.

Exactomundo.

They would have heard it all before by now, from Bunnings Karens and all sorts of strident SovCits claiming diplomatic immunity via the British Constitution Act of 1700, the 1619 Declaration and Carta Magna.

‘Geez, another one’, the beak would have thought.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
October 26, 2021 7:50 am

Must watch A Man For All Seasons again, in those days actors wanted to star with other stars in quality productions. Now its all about me.

JC
JC
October 26, 2021 7:52 am

Actually, I blame bosi for getting into this mess in the first place.

Pandemic lockdown or not, who the fuck would ever contemplate going to Adelaide unless it was to commence a serial killing spree? Obviously, that wasn’t on his mind so why there.

sfw
sfw
October 26, 2021 7:54 am

Listening to the ‘Gulag Archipelago’ for the second time, struck by how often Solzhenitsyn states that it was the USSR internal passport system that really allowed the state terror on a large scale, prior to its introduction the secret police could and did terrorise and murder but were limited by peoples movements, the internal passports gave them the tool they needed for complete oppression. The silence of our so called champions of human rights on the ‘vaccine passports’ is amazing, they can’t be ignorant of the implications and possibilities of abuse of these ‘passports’ yet they say nothing.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 26, 2021 7:55 am

JC, VW make more EV’s than Tesla.
Why isn’t VW worth more than a trill.
Keep in mind VW also owns Audi so should be worth more based on that alone.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
October 26, 2021 7:56 am

Trouble is KD the judicial system is all about feelz and not law. They’re more concerned of being dropped from dinner invites than attending to the matters presented.

JC
JC
October 26, 2021 7:56 am

You know, you really have to hand it to Musk. He’s an Asperger’s ridden space cadet, but fuck me he made an excellent call in predicting what governments would be pushing for.

A huge call like that makes you the richest person in the world.

Major Elvis Newton
Major Elvis Newton
October 26, 2021 8:00 am

There is nothing in Andrews’s new proposed legislative powers to stop him from imposing lockdowns for climate-related reasons: mandated blackouts, brownouts and food shortages, to ensure the population remain compliant and under control.

Think about that for a moment.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 26, 2021 8:00 am

Dean Jones, had a secret son.
Two things that kill estates.
Offspring coming out of the wood work.
And previously unknown reverse mortgages coming to light.
Heart breaking for widows.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 26, 2021 8:01 am

He got about three lines in before the beak hung up on him, letting all the hydrogen out of that particular zeppelin.

It does take the wind out of the sails of the Soaring Oratory when your final line is “Begone!” and the audience changed channel three minutes ago.

Cassie of Sydney
October 26, 2021 8:02 am

“Must watch A Man For All Seasons again,”

It’s a great film.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 26, 2021 8:04 am

GreyRangasays:

October 26, 2021 at 7:39 am

Have you got a nice coffin picked out and how much are you leaving on the bar Sancho.

Huh?

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
October 26, 2021 8:04 am

When a magistrate sees someone disputing a mask fine, they’re going to have their back up already.

Rosa Parks would still giving up her seat on the bus with our current crop of beaks.
Not upholding civil rights and freedoms is the judicial version of “taking the knee”for the cause.

lotocoti
lotocoti
October 26, 2021 8:05 am

An addendum to Tom’s toons:
America lowering its expectations forty years ago by Ron Cobb*.
*Every Cat has likely seen some of Ron Cobb’s work, but never known it.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
October 26, 2021 8:06 am

JC on the money there, or on the other hand could have been on the way out and when caught said was on the way in to give an alibi for the serial killings. Not everything is how it appears.

JC
JC
October 26, 2021 8:06 am

Bern

Margin I believe. I read a couple of research notes about a year ago and Tesla has the best operating margin in the business …. On a business which makes little money per unit, they were scratching out around 23% operating margin. That’s fucking enormous and almost resembles what a big pharma makes.

Also, all they do is assemble and I think almost everything is made by others except the battery. And the battery is the best in the business.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 26, 2021 8:07 am

rosie says:
October 26, 2021 at 6:19 am
no magnesium for you

Magnesium is another form of solid electricity. No rare and exotic mineralisation and not a particularly filthy process; it can be produced anywhere with access to seawater, or brine and cheap power.

Europe has grown almost entirely dependent on China for magnesium since Chinese dumping forced the closure of Europe’s remaining magnesium production plant in 2001.

“Between 2000 and 2021, China’s magnesium production increased from 12 per cent of the global supply to 87 per cent, creating an effective international monopoly on a 1.2 million tonnes per annum market demand,” European Aluminium’s report said.

Another basic industrial input deliberately offshored to reduce EU emissions.

There’s a message for COP26, right there. Something like “Love you long time”.

JC
JC
October 26, 2021 8:08 am

Ranga

About Adelaide…… hashhasha

Cassie of Sydney
October 26, 2021 8:09 am

“But nothing. Btw, someone from the AMA only said the other day that medical treatment of the unvaccinated should be refused. I know that statement drew pushback but the fact it was said should indicate more than being uninformed/misinformed.”

The AMA has now been officially hijacked by a coterie of progressive far-left doctors, many of these “doctors” would have been quite at home in Stalin’s Soviet Union, where “doctors” routinely signed medical certificates that sent political dissidents off to “psychiatric” hospitals for evaluation and treatment and where those dissidents, if they weren’t sent to a gulag, ended up with a bullet between their eyes.

These AMA doctors don’t give a rat’s arse about the individual or medicine for that matter, they only care about the politics. No wonder the AMA’s membership has plummeted.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 26, 2021 8:09 am

Trouble is KD the judicial system is all about feelz and not law.

Absolutely. It’s not a justice system, it’s a legal system with rare smatterings of justice thrown in, .

They’re more concerned of being dropped from dinner invites than attending to the matters presented.

Every day, nuffies of all flavours present themselves before courts demanding their day. People whose dogs are not all barking have issues with every law under the sun, not just the current crop of square-pegged-in-round-holed shit regulations invented by suddenly-important medical cube dwellers.

Magistrates (not judges, as they like to style themselves) hear about chemtrails and 5G towers and little magnets under the sink that block the visions and black helicopters and secret agents dressed like postmen and why can’t you fingerprint that brick on a daily basis.

It’s not a TV show. They’re not compelled to listen to all of it, all the time.

Gab
Gab
October 26, 2021 8:10 am

New move could gift Andrews unprecedented power.
Proposed laws may strip the chief health officer of the power to make special orders and give the government virtually unlimited powers during a pandemic.

Daniel Andrews would wield unprecedented power to declare pandemics and enforce emergency laws under legislation set to replace Victoria’s controversial state of emergency framework.

Under legislation to go before parliament as early as today the Premier would have the power to make a pandemic declaration following consultation with the chief health officer, and extend it in three-month blocks for as long as he considered it necessary.

The state’s chief health officer would be stripped of the ability to make special orders, with that power to be transferred to the health minister.

It would give the government virtually unlimited capacity to restrict movement, ban public gatherings, close businesses or order quarantine requirements as required.

The Herald Sun understands the power to declare a pandemic would exist even if there had been no cases of a specific disease in Victoria for a period of time.

Key crossbenchers were briefed on Monday about the proposed laws, which the government hopes to have in place by December when the current state of emergency provisions expire.

Victoria has been subject to emergency laws since March last year when a four-week State of Emergency was announced by Mr Andrews and former health minister Jenny Mikakos.

The extraordinary move gave the state government sweeping powers to restrict movement, shut down mass gatherings and require returned overseas travellers to self-isolate.

It also facilitated the implementation of the state’s hotel quarantine program and issuing orders for community lockdowns and mask wearing.

Under current legislation the health minister, on the advice of the chief health officer – currently Brett Sutton – can declare a state of emergency arising out of any circumstances deemed a serious risk to public health.

Tim Smith said new protections were needed to ensure transparency and accountability were at the centre of future pandemic responses.

The state opposition has flagged an alternative proposal that would stop governments from declaring pandemic emergencies for more than 30 days without first securing a special majority in both houses of Parliament.

Shadow Attorney General Tim Smith said new protections were needed to ensure transparency and accountability were at the centre of future pandemic responses.

“Our liberties and freedoms have been under assault from this Labor government for eighteen months. It must end,” he said.

“Our proposed changes will protect every Victorian family and business from excessive restrictions on their freedoms, businesses and way of life.”

Under a Private Members Bill to be put to Parliament, extensions to emergency or pandemic declarations would require a special 3/5ths majority of the Legislative Assembly and the Legislative Council to be passed.

The Bill would amend the Victorian Constitution to limit the ability of the state government to declare an emergency or pandemic for no more than 30 days.

It would also require the Premier to provide every non-government party leader and independent MPs with regular briefings justifying the use of state of emergency style powers.

Mr Smith said despite imposing the toughest restrictions in the nation and Melbourne suffering the longest lockdown in the world, Victoria had recorded more COVID-19, cases, deaths, job losses, mental health distress and school days missed than any other state.

“Daniel Andrews’ Covid response has failed. Why would we hand more power to the person who got us here in the first place?”

A government spokesman said: “We agree with the Leader of the Opposition when he says that public
health orders should be signed off by a Minister – that’s why we’re introducing pandemic specific legislation, just as we promised we’d do.

“After examining the powers in other jurisdictions, like NSW and New Zealand, and working through issues with an independent panel we’ll introduce a bill to Parliament tomorrow to manage pandemics into the future and keep Victorians safe.”

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
October 26, 2021 8:10 am

Aren’t you getting the kill shot on Friday? hehe.

JC
JC
October 26, 2021 8:10 am

Hey Ranga

If anyone ever announces they’re going to Adelaide for anything – business or “pleasure”-notify the cops immediately.

Twostix
Twostix
October 26, 2021 8:13 am

Bosi is running for the election. He’s now headlined on the ABC. A hundred thousand dollars of advertising right there.

Again we have victorian dumb and dumber here explaining to each other that they’re so smart. Holy shit! Abusing a judge isn’t going to get you off??? Someone tell that Bosi guy, he doesn’t know that! Literal cringe fest.

Their plan of action for the last 18 months to address any of this? Stay home! Mask up! Obey Dan, and now….Get the jab!

Bar Beach Swimmer
October 26, 2021 8:14 am

Cassie, Paul Schofield clearly explaining Moore’s position in the trial scene, I can’t see ever being repeated. Because first we’ll need a true martyr but one who has with the force of language of a Churchill.

But once Dictator Dan’s tyrannical powers pass the Victorian parliament, sooner or later there will be a stream of political prisoners coming before the Victorian bench.

With no frivolity and even less appetite for it, I say: come on down, Sir Thomas (Mark II).

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 26, 2021 8:14 am

stix, you’re better than that.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 26, 2021 8:14 am

a legal system with rare smatterings of justice thrown in,

Punctuation fail. I was going to say something about justice and Wayne Harmes, but the six-day window had already run out.

Twostix
Twostix
October 26, 2021 8:18 am

Bosi is obviously going to run the Trump campaign strategy. Any publicity abusing the establishment and getting into the media is good for him.

But he probably should just join UAP or One Nation, a fairly pointless exercise in splitting otherwise.

local oaf
October 26, 2021 8:19 am

The silence of our so called champions of human rights on the ‘vaccine passports’ is amazing, they can’t be ignorant of the implications and possibilities of abuse of these ‘passports’ yet they say nothing.

I suspect they can be ignorant – how many people in Australia have actually read even a word of Solzhenitsyn?
Of that tiny number, how many inhabit the modern world of the “rights” industry?

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
October 26, 2021 8:22 am

“keep Victorians safe.”

A declaration of war against free citizens.

Crossie
Crossie
October 26, 2021 8:24 am

feelthebern says:
October 26, 2021 at 7:03 am
Exactly what does Fauci have to do to be sacked? How can someone so traitorous, deceitful, incompetent and dangerous not be in jail, let alone keep his job?

Tweet something mildly critical of Biden?

Or tell the truth.

Crossie
Crossie
October 26, 2021 8:26 am

Cassie of Sydney says:
October 26, 2021 at 7:19 am
Today I get my haircut!

Amen.

#MeToo. I have even taken a day off in honour of the occasion.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 26, 2021 8:27 am

I was told overnight that I shouldn’t be criticising Bosi because we’ve got bigger fish to fry.
Really?
There are plenty here banging on about the “UniParty” and urging us to look at minor parties, one of which is Bosi’s Australia 1.
It is entirely relevant to question and criticise someone who aspires to hold the balance of power in the Senate.
Apparently this case was about masks (not that you would know that from the monologue).
Did he ask the prosecutor to produce the health advice on masks? No.
Did he question the validity of emergency legislation? No.
Instead of taking that opportunity he launches into a self aggrandising Shakespearean style soliloquy which says nothing and achieves less.
Oh, and another thing.
At a time when some of his former comrades are facing possible war crimes charges amid accusations that they see themselves as above the law, Bosi openly declares he is … above the law.
Thanks heaps, dickhead.

Dot
Dot
October 26, 2021 8:28 am

Be wary of itinerant workers from Mildura, JC. They have form.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 26, 2021 8:30 am

GreyRangasays:

October 26, 2021 at 8:10 am

Aren’t you getting the kill shot on Friday? hehe.

What makes you think that?

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
October 26, 2021 8:32 am

Test

Eyrie
Eyrie
October 26, 2021 8:35 am

Just offhand, anyone know the size of the Hertz rental car fleet in the USA?

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
October 26, 2021 8:35 am

Sancho Panzersays:
October 26, 2021 at 7:34 am
AZ.
Friday.
Booked.
Need vest.

Twostix
Twostix
October 26, 2021 8:36 am

Boy those vaccine passports sure are getting workout on this page. So much for ‘It’s just for my health! Stop judging me! I’ll never accept the passport!’.

What’s interesting is the drive to confess it here. Very interesting.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 26, 2021 8:38 am

Oh that.
No, that was about my new job in Arizona.

Twostix
Twostix
October 26, 2021 8:39 am

You know shortly we’ll be reading articles in the spectator entitled: The Unconventional Conservatism of Internal Health Passports, etc.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
October 26, 2021 8:39 am

Sorry, that explains the vest.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 26, 2021 8:39 am

GreyRangasays:

October 26, 2021 at 8:39 am

Sorry, that explains the vest.

Kevlar.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 26, 2021 8:40 am

Bosi is running for the election. He’s now headlined on the ABC. A hundred thousand dollars of advertising right there.

Right now, on the ABC site, this article is 30 down from the ‘headline’. It was out-headlined by a story about blueberry growers on the Coffs Coast. The top story is about liposuction.

Others may hold different views, but I believe any publicity is not necessarily good publicity.

If people want to hang their hats on Bosi telling (or intending to tell, as it turned out) a magistrate his unspecific thoughts on a pissweak matter disguised as a broadcast (despatch) by We The People, he should have done his fucking research because magistrates get yelled and sworn at by proper crooks every single day.

Bosi’s just publicly thrown himself on the nuffie pile. It’s bad enough his manifesto determined that the death sentence for treason would be carried out by ‘The People’ for things like ‘political warfare’, and ‘economic warfare’, which sound to me broad enough to encompass anyone who pisses off Bosi once he’s in charge of the country, but his great public stand (of three lines) has managed to alienate a lot of people who would have been interested.

To reiterate: Magistrates are told to get fucked all over the country every day. Bosi’s poorly-thought attempt at publicity is not, nor should it be, news.

Six days to repent. Fuck off.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 26, 2021 8:44 am

Their plan of action for the last 18 months to address any of this? Stay home! Mask up!

No.

But it’s not declaring yourself a ‘sovereign being’ in public either. The Uniparty is not a solution, and the Nationals certainly are not. But neither is tacking yourself onto a fringe lunatic whose podcasts concentrate on millennia-old conspiracies hatching right this minute in tunnels, though of by red-shoe-wearing pizza fans.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 26, 2021 8:44 am

For all those talking about seeing the new Dune –

The Critical Drinker gives his perspective.

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
October 26, 2021 8:47 am

I’m not getting a hair cut until Monday so it looks like I’ll be looking unkept for the grand unveiling.

Unkept and hats are in this season. My barber he no open til weekend. I’m leaving the city ASAP to visit me ma. She still has the scissors she used to cut our hair during school days. Undecided though as her hands whilst strong are a bit shakey. I May come out like a Sheep shawn by the roustabout missing half an ear.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 26, 2021 8:47 am

The Monobrow Monologues.

Dot
Dot
October 26, 2021 8:48 am

You know shortly we’ll be reading articles in the spectator entitled: The Unconventional Conservatism of Internal Health Passports, etc.

LOL

But look. Where’s the evidence Bosi is not just another patsy? Lt Col in the SAS loses his mind and becomes a Sov Citz?

It is just another trap to dilute the One Nation vote.

Call me nuts, but I was right about Bernardi being a honey trap too.

You don’t become an SAS Lt Col without:

1. Being liked and accepted by the military and political establishment.
2. Being sane.
3. Being very intelligent.
4. Having access to or working with counter intelligence.

I might hurt Riccardo’s feelings with this, but it quacks like a duck.

The Liberal Party has always done what it can to destroy the LDP and One Nation.

Ergo, I think they’re quite scared of Kelly and the UAP. They can’t use cheap tricks.

Fair Shake
Fair Shake
October 26, 2021 8:50 am

Andrews big power grab is underway in Victoria. SOE powers centralised with him to go before parliament within the next day or two. Secret legislation drawn up giving him all power previously given to CHO. Libs don’t have the numbers to stop it. He will promise the world to the greens and independents …whatever it takes and they will roll over for him. Dark days here in Vikdanistan.

rickw
rickw
October 26, 2021 8:51 am

Did he ask the prosecutor to produce the health advice on masks? No.
Did he question the validity of emergency legislation? No.

The law doesn’t mean shit these days. It doesn’t matter what the law says, they will never find in your favour if it doesn’t suit their agenda.

eg: Constitution, Federal Vaccination rules, Human Rights Charter etc. aren’t worth the paper they’re written on.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 26, 2021 8:51 am

Six days to repent. Fuck off.

It’s now 5.

Dot
Dot
October 26, 2021 8:52 am

I found a conspiracy dude the other night who knows his stuff about FDR running a tyrannical kleptocracy but also has some bizarre beliefs about British new men in the late 18th century being the true one world government.

Apparently, Lord Rosebery, Gordon, Balfour, Rhodes were all pederasts who wanted a OWG headed by Queen Victoria, but replace the CoE with theosophy.

A hint of anti sionism with Balfour included perhaps.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 26, 2021 8:52 am

Bernardi looks after one guy. Bernardi.

rickw
rickw
October 26, 2021 8:52 am

Dark days here in Vikdanistan.

Indeed.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 26, 2021 8:53 am

Nothing like a death for bringing out the family secrets. Always interesting provided you’re not involved.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 26, 2021 8:53 am

FDR & Wilson did so much damage.
And the punters loved FDR for it.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 26, 2021 8:54 am

1. Being liked and accepted by the military and political establishment.
2. Being sane.
3. Being very intelligent.
4. Having access to or working with counter intelligence.

5. Going rogue.

The plots of countless movies, all of which are no doubt getting a run in A1HQ with the end bits cut out. Broken Arrow, The Rock, Under Siege 1 and 2, Apocalypse Now, In the Line of Fire and so on.

srr
srr
October 26, 2021 8:54 am

Why NFTs Are Valuable – Explained By An Idiot!
https://rumble.com/embed/vljxif/?pub=5f67r
Awaken With JP
Published October 24, 2021
Rumble — Nonfungible tokens are taking the world by storm! People are getting rich super fast with crypto art. Understand how NFT’s work and why they are so valuable, all explained by an idiot in this video.

rickw
rickw
October 26, 2021 8:55 am

Ergo, I think they’re quite scared of Kelly and the UAP. They can’t use cheap tricks.

Agree, that’s why I’ll be voting for them.

Dot
Dot
October 26, 2021 8:55 am

I announce the Galactic Empire of Victoria !

custard
custard
October 26, 2021 8:57 am

Matt and Mercedes Schlapp have canceled themselves in the eyes of the warroom posse.

https://twitter.com/feisty_mick/status/1452663031800942594?s=21

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 26, 2021 8:58 am

Dark days here in Vikdanistan.

Whatever The Chairman does to the economy he has put Cain/Kirner in the shade. You would have to be thinking about pulling up stumps.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 26, 2021 8:59 am

rickwsays:

October 26, 2021 at 8:51 am

Did he ask the prosecutor to produce the health advice on masks? No.
Did he question the validity of emergency legislation? No.
…..

The law doesn’t mean shit these days

Yeah, he was never going to win tue case.
But it is obvious he intended to use it as a publicity stunt.
If so, make it about something that matters, not just five minutes of self aggrandising preening and faux historical intellectualism.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 26, 2021 9:03 am

Fair Shakesays:
October 26, 2021 at 8:50 am
Andrews big power grab is underway in Victoria. SOE powers centralised with him to go before parliament within the next day or two. Secret legislation drawn up giving him all power previously given to CHO.

Victoria’s Enabling Act.

custard
custard
October 26, 2021 9:04 am

The fracture of the political right in Australia just now is huge. It’s a shame it couldn’t be harnessed. But conservatives are unlikely to just follow like sheep as do the left.

Big personalities control the parties too. Clive, Pauline, Bosi, Culleton. In Clive’s case he has the money. In Pauline’s case the political capital. And you couldn’t blame Bosi or Culleton wanting control as they have stayed the course.

Boambee John
Boambee John
October 26, 2021 9:05 am

Dot

some bizarre beliefs about British new men in the late 18th century being the true one world government.

Apparently, Lord Rosebery, Gordon, Balfour, Rhodes

Try the late 19th Century?

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 26, 2021 9:10 am

Pick a US state that doesn’t ban private punters getting a generator.
Any politician that runs on that platform in the mid terms will have the perfect wedge issue.
I’m surprised the retard running for governor in Virginia for the GOP hasn’t made it an issue.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 26, 2021 9:11 am

The only logical reason for the state to ban private ownership of generators is because they want the power to ration energy.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 26, 2021 9:16 am

I don’t think people will remember Bosi’s words in one hundred years

There is a possibility patrons at a future Museum of Natural History will pause in bemusement in front of a formaldehyde filled jar containing the sticky entrails of an Adelaide magistrate that were forcefully expelled through his anus in the manner of a sea cucumber.

I read above of what Bosi said – what was going on beforehand? What prompted the outburst?

Winston Smith
October 26, 2021 9:21 am

Cassie of Sydney:

Today I get my haircut!

Did mine last night – back to my egg lookalike with a #1.

Bons
Bons
October 26, 2021 9:22 am

Cartoons about the Morrisson count’s treason are not acceptable.
There is not, and never will be anything funny about that fat asshole’s contempt for our nation.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 26, 2021 9:23 am

I read above of what Bosi said – what was going on beforehand? What prompted the outburst?

From what I can tell, there was no “beforehand”.
And it wasn’t an “outburst”.
It was a prepared statement.
In accordance with the Maritime Free Passage Act of 1478.

feelthebern
feelthebern
October 26, 2021 9:25 am

The modelling was always wrong.
Weird map of NSW jab rates.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/on-the-day-nsw-was-tipped-to-reach-70-per-cent-vaccinations-it-hit-85-20211025-p592vu.html

I saw weird because council areas next to each other having 25-30% variance in rates.

Winston Smith
October 26, 2021 9:27 am

Major Elvis Newton:

There is nothing in Andrews’s new proposed legislative powers to stop him from imposing lockdowns for climate-related reasons: mandated blackouts, brownouts and food shortages, to ensure the population remain compliant and under control.

Think about that for a moment.

Don’t you worry, Major.
This is the Cat and for some of us, this scenario is right near the top of the list.

Indolent
Indolent
October 26, 2021 9:29 am

PERMANENT State of Emergency Legislation for Dan Andrews

Dan is creating legislation to enshrine his dictatorship.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 26, 2021 9:30 am

Sancho Panzersays:
October 26, 2021 at 7:34 am

AZ.
Friday.
Booked.
Need vest.

God help me, but I never thought I would see such the day* with such a display of degeneracy on The Cat.

A vest?

What else are you going to wear? Sandals and long socks?

* Well, at least on a day when:
> Bird was busy at the side of a highway throatily denouncing Zionist conspiracies to passing traffic
> Septimus busy sashaying and pirouetting in front of a full length mirror in his new ‘mother’ skin suit
> Terry Ped basing an entire argument on the use of the indefinite article
> Numbers blocking the drive-thru at Maccas for half an hour telling the staff through the order microphone about how he cares about the minimum wage wukkaz and their harsh conditions, but they better skimp on the Sweet & Sour sauce, and
> Monty is playing with himself over a catalogue of new Krispy Kreme varieties.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
October 26, 2021 9:32 am

Daily Mail. Any Cats ever remember being invited to parties like this? No, me neither.

Former Playmate lifts the lid on Hugh Hefner’s infamous Halloween parties: Model recalls having her naked body painted for HOURS to attend over-the-top Playboy Mansion event where ‘people were having sex everywhere’

Jenna Bentley, 32, from Montana, was 18 when attended one of Hefner’s famous Halloween celebrations at the mansion
The model said when she met the Playboy founder, he asked her if she wanted to get naked and have her body painted as a butterfly to join in the festivities
She readily agreed and spent four hours having latex paint applied to her body
Jenna said ‘people were having sex everywhere’ on the property, including the grottos, pool, and the pumpkin patch
She spent the evening getting acquainted with the other Playboy Bunnies and knew she wanted to be one, too
Jenna, who is a now multimillionaire thanks to her successful OnlyFans page, also realized at the party that she was ‘attracted to women’ and was ‘pansexual’

Rabz
October 26, 2021 9:33 am

Boambee John – no I haven’t forgotten, will hopefully have that submission on the digital identity bill ready to go this afternoon. I’ve written most of it, but it needs a final comprehensive edit. It’s a synthesis of any relevant comments on that previous thread (with some editorialising of my own).

Will post it here once finished. The closing date for submissions is tomorrow.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 26, 2021 9:34 am

Better not skimp

A rant, ruined!

Winston Smith
October 26, 2021 9:35 am

Gab:

Under current legislation the health minister, on the advice of the chief health officer – currently Brett Sutton – can declare a state of emergency arising out of any circumstances deemed a serious risk to public health.

That’s old hat – remember that a couple of years ago, Andrews? declared a State of Emergency so they could get Federal funding for their election campaign?
They’ve had the power to do a lot of evil stuff for some time, it’s just now that they have all decided to work in concert.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 26, 2021 9:35 am

Mother Lodesays:

October 26, 2021 at 9:30 am

Sancho Panzersays:
October 26, 2021 at 7:34 am

AZ.
Friday.
Booked.
Need vest.
……….
God help me, but I never thought I would see such the day* with such a display of degeneracy on The Cat.

A vest?

Booked to fly out Friday for my new job in Arizona.
Fillem cameraman.
Kevlar vest.
What did you think I meant?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 26, 2021 9:36 am

I can’t get a Kevlar cardigan, so a vest will have to do.

Dot
Dot
October 26, 2021 9:37 am

Try the late 19th Century?

Calm down, Teary Pedosan.

Mea culpa, if you have a go at my typos you’ll be here all night.

srr
srr
October 26, 2021 9:38 am

So after these these close to two years of Human Rights being Suspended & Abused around the world, many conspiracy ‘theories’ (that have many decades long form), have ended up being shown to be actual conspiracies amongst & between academics, politicians, police, doctors, surgeons, media, arts, military, technocracies , Unions and on it goes.

What’s the response of the narrative controllers?

The same childish mockery they’ve used to shame people from even daring to look deeper into injustices.
A tactic that they’ve used to give Global Human Rights Abusers a clear path for generations.

Oh, but we aren’t supposed to notice that’s what they are are & what they are doing.

No, we’re just supposed to hand them back the power to keep badgering us into unresisting compliance.

It’s how we got a Daniel Andrews Dictatorship, so it obviously works.

HD
HD
October 26, 2021 9:38 am

I read above of what Bosi said – what was going on beforehand? What prompted the outburst?

This Lyons fellow’s case was in the list, same day, same magistrate. His argument being that these mask wearing and mandatory testing on arrival at airports measures aren’t law, not having been voted on by SA parliament though are rather directions from the Police commissioner.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-21/covid-19-accelerating-rise-of-conspiracy-movements-in-australia/100393666

JC
JC
October 26, 2021 9:40 am

I would have thought you’d be applying for the “armorist” position, Sanchez.

Dot
Dot
October 26, 2021 9:45 am

His argument being that these mask wearing and mandatory testing on arrival at airports measures aren’t law, not having been voted on by SA parliament though are rather directions from the Police commissioner.

If SA Parliament has not sit and so not been allowed to disallow delegated legislation, after so long, it should be considered an abuse of executive power and voided. Particularly when it was made by a delegate of a Minister.

Plainly these state constitutions even with plenary powers were not meant to be interpreted in this manner.

That won’t happen, the judiciary are cucks, you have to threaten their livelihoods or ease of work to get them to assert themselves.

Remember that the Palmer case may have implicitly repealed the law that was made in the Kable decisions.

Winston Smith
October 26, 2021 9:45 am

Fair shake:

I May come out like a Sheep shawn by the roustabout missing half an ear.

As long as the rouseabout is the one missing an ear, it’ll be OK.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 26, 2021 9:53 am

Dot, these are all useful arguments.
Sure, the battle might be lost, but it might contribute to winning the war.
As distinct from some grandiose puffery spouted down a disengaged phone line.
“Begone!” (Beeeeep, beeeeep, beeeeep … your call has been disconnected).

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
October 26, 2021 9:53 am

the Maritime Free Passage Act of 1478

Simpler times. Pre-chemtrails.

srr
srr
October 26, 2021 9:54 am

Drug Companies Don’t Fund The Media! Stop Asking!

https://rumble.com/vo3t11-drug-companies-dont-fund-the-media-stop-asking.html

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 26, 2021 9:55 am

JCsays:
October 26, 2021 at 9:40 am
I would have thought you’d be applying for the “armorist” position, Sanchez.

Sancho is no armorista.
Not that this appears to be a barrier to employment.

JC
JC
October 26, 2021 9:56 am

Dot

Explain that in non legalese.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 26, 2021 9:57 am

Quite frankly I don’t blame the magistrate for putting the kibosh on Bosi’s ravings and rantings.

One of the outcomes is that this will be used to tar all other right-leaning parties with the same lawless brush at a time when it is essential for a competent and pragmatic opposition to be mounted against the Morrison 2050 Diktat, which otherwise totally pervades the political spectrum.

Baba
Baba
October 26, 2021 9:57 am

Dark days here in Vikdanistan

Victorians. “Ha, ha. What about that Bosi idiot.”

JC
JC
October 26, 2021 9:58 am

Sancho is no armorista.
Not that this appears to be a barrier to employment.

One thing that came out of the sad event is that a lot of us learnt an new word

“Armorist”

Zipster
Zipster
October 26, 2021 10:00 am

“Between 2000 and 2021, China’s magnesium production increased from 12 per cent of the global supply to 87 per cent, creating an effective international monopoly on a 1.2 million tonnes per annum market demand,” European Aluminium’s report said.

Our politicians are so clever!

JC
JC
October 26, 2021 10:01 am

Whoops

Dot , explain this

Remember that the Palmer case may have implicitly repealed the law that was made in the Kable decisions.

Zipster
Zipster
October 26, 2021 10:02 am

I can’t get a Kevlar cardigan, so a vest will have to do.

Australia is the ultimate NANNY STATE

JC
JC
October 26, 2021 10:06 am

Zip

You should also keep this in mind.

If they are the major suppliers they’re also vulnerable to buyers going elsewhere and the Chinese lose their investment.

It’s not a monopoly if the barrier to entry isn’t gated up by the state .

People always make the mistake of thinking one supplier means monopoly but it doesn’t if the market is contestable and this appears to be.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

Had a corker flu last week.
Made appointment, presented at GP surgery.
Walked through occupied waiting room, past several QR code check-in stations.
Did not check in.
Nobody cared.

Presented to reception, was given the (now) usual covid symptoms questionnaire to fill in.
“Have you cough, fever, high temperature, sniffles, etc”
Ticked “Yes” to all.
Got told to “take a seat” (in a tone you’d use to discuss drying paint)

Sat down amongst the crowd, Got through half a chapter before called in.
Recited symptoms to nice lady GP.
Got a basic do-over, stethoscope, blood pressure, paddlepop stick applied poke out tongue & say “aah“, look in ears.
Discussion of symptoms.
She’s got no idea what ails me.

7/8 of the way through the consultation she has a stab at a possible cause;
How long since you had the jab?
I’m not yet jabbed
Ohhh...” she deflates, pop goes that idea for why I’m so crook.

That was the only mention of either Covid, or the jab.

Prescription for some broad spectrum antibiotic, & I’m outta there.
Come back next week if you don’t feel better” (In a tone you’d use to discuss drying paint)

My haircut, shirt, & book, got more attention than

lotocoti
lotocoti
October 26, 2021 10:07 am

But it is obvious he intended to use it as a publicity stunt.

A) Pulpit thumping doesn’t work over the phone.
B) Make sure your script is subbed by someone who couldn’t give two shits for the cause,
not sounding like the Thorazine has worn off matters.

Arky
October 26, 2021 10:07 am

What’s the response of the narrative controllers?

The same childish mockery they’ve used to shame people

..
Exactly.
I wouldn’t mind hearing the counter cases to some of the nuttier stuff.
I don’t mind a bit of humour or ridicule.
But when it’s a one track mindless stream of shit I turn it off.
Some on here need to do a hell of a lot fucking better, because both sides need to have justice done to their cases.
We’re in a constant propaganda war and it’s hard enough to untangle the data and sift out the really stupid stuff.
In fact, doing so would be a full time job.
Right now for example, I have not personally the stomach to read Dan’s emergency legislation or reports thereof. The idea sickens me.
But I would like to read on here some intelligent back and forth on it.
I’d ask some on here to curb some of their instincts for bloody battle in the middle and instead a bit more analysis of what’s coming at us potentially from the left in the next year or two.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 26, 2021 10:08 am

One thing that came out of the sad event is that a lot of us learnt an new word

“Armorist”

Guns?
I’m just here to trim the trees.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 26, 2021 10:10 am

From what I can tell, there was no “beforehand”.
And it wasn’t an “outburst”.
It was a prepared statement.

I was reading into from the register (for lack of knowledge of a more appropriate term).

The use of the word ‘traitor’, a word used around here to vent frustration and lend an air of histrionics, would seem to require a very precise context in a legal domain.

But then, as I said, I did not read the whole thing – just the excerpts people posted above, which would naturally not be typical of the whole, even when it summarises the whole.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 26, 2021 10:14 am

lol, Sancho.

Never give up on the lightening up at the Cat.

We need talented purveyors of lightening up more than ever now.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 26, 2021 10:15 am

If you don’t cite the Mana Carta are you even trying?

Dot
Dot
October 26, 2021 10:18 am

The more recent decision (this month?) JC. Not the earlier sillier (February?) one where they tried to patch up the absurd anti-literal reading of plain language s 92.

The High Court affirmed this stupid legislation. Yes his claim might be stupid, but read on. Maybe he’s entitled to something.

This post introduces a very strange story. It is about the Western Australian government’s legislative attempt to shut down Mr Clive Palmer’s arbitration claims to an estimated $30 billion, an amount that is about equal to the state’s annual budget.

https://auspublaw.org/2020/08/the-palmer-act/

This is perhaps the most offensive, repugnant piece of legislation that I have seen. It is offensive to the fundamental principles of our parliamentary democracy because of its delegation of legislation-making powers, its Henry VIII clauses, its interference in an ongoing legal dispute, its interference in and breakdown of the separation of powers and its trampling of someone’s rights to natural justice and procedural fairness. What also makes this legislation so bad and offensive is its undermining of the rule of the law (Aaron Stonehouse, Legislative Council debates, 13 August 2020, p 4944).

If they can limit your right to seek compensation in ongoing arbitration (with themselves), they can limit your right to appeal.

lotocoti
lotocoti
October 26, 2021 10:18 am

I think you mean Magnus Pike, HB.
H/T Arfur Daley

Dot
Dot
October 26, 2021 10:22 am

It really gets even sillier in the earlier case that Palmer lost.

https://lsj.com.au/articles/constitutional-algebra-palmer-v-western-australia-reunites-the-broken-parts-of-s-92/

The decision
The Court (Kiefel CJ and Keane J in joint reasons; Gageler, Gordon and Edelman JJ each delivering separate judgments) unanimously held that the EM Act complied with s 92. Following Wootton v Queensland (2012) 246 CLR 1, an Act may be challenged directly for non-compliance with the Constitution, whereas a subordinate instrument such as a regulation or direction may only be challenged indirectly, on the basis that, once its enabling Act is properly construed to be compliant with the Constitution, the subordinate instrument is not validly authorised by that enabling Act.

(Wait for it…I think they miswrote the above if the claim the below)

Since it was not pleaded that the Directions were not validly authorised by the EM Act, and once it was established that the EM Act complied with s 92, no question could arise as to whether the Directions were, indirectly, non-compliant with s 92. (This evidently caused some confusion in how the case was pleaded, as the Plaintiffs addressed their submissions to the alleged constitutional invalidity of the Directions as such.)

The bolded bit is insane, illogical and extremely low IQ – as well as poorly written.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 26, 2021 10:22 am

Wiki has info here on defining treason in various jurisdictions.

Dot
Dot
October 26, 2021 10:24 am

Wootton v Queensland (2012) 246 CLR 1

Bad law. As bad as Cole v Whitfield.

Just terrible.

Most people don’t even understand the terrible decisions and rules that flow from these living, breathing, monstrous legal abortions.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 26, 2021 10:24 am

What did you think I meant?

I misread it as a parody of someone dutifully getting the vaxx because they are convinced it is…their civic duty.

Gawd, I am having a rotten time reading today.

JC
JC
October 26, 2021 10:25 am

Thanks Dot

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
October 26, 2021 10:25 am

I saw the ones yesterday but did not know the original context.

Still don’t, actually.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 26, 2021 10:28 am

This wiki on treason is the one I meant to use – much more comprehensive.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
October 26, 2021 10:29 am

Mother Lodesays:

October 26, 2021 at 10:25 am

I saw the ones yesterday but did not know the original context.

Ah yes.
That was in reference to, I think, Baba posting “Paris. Christmas. Booked” and, when asked whether a trip to Paris would involve a vax passport, replied that he/she/ze could have been talking about anything, which was seen by a couple of people as a very clever “gotcha”.

Dot
Dot
October 26, 2021 10:30 am

JCsays:
October 26, 2021 at 10:25 am
Thanks Dot

You should be utterly enraged.

Remember this gem.

Hart v Commissioner of Taxation [2018] FCAFC 61 at 83.

Subsequently, in RCI, the Full Court made it abundantly clear that a taxpayer does not discharge its onus for the purposes of s 177C by demonstrating that the Commissioner’s counterfactual is not reasonable.

We’re quickly becoming a fascist state after decades of white anting.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
October 26, 2021 10:32 am

I announce the Galactic Empire of Victoria !

Too late. It’s already run by lizard people.
I’d’ve said snakes, but that would be an insult to snakes.

Dragnet
Dragnet
October 26, 2021 10:33 am

If Riccardo felt compelled to make his grandiloquent speech he could at least have waited until his actual day in the physical courtroom not piss it all away at the bloody Callover / Mention stage.

Dot
Dot
October 26, 2021 10:35 am

Minor parties like the LDP, PHON and UAP need to have law reform and constitutional reform policies.

Bad common law needs to be legislated away.

“No right of appeal, even if you can prove our probanda is nonsense, you have not demonstrated innocence, absolute liability, endless trials on indictment until we get the right decision, police and non judicial officers signing warrants, seizure by court order with no trial…”

We’re a fascist state. 2021 just sealed the deal.

Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
October 26, 2021 10:36 am

Another olde sounds-alike word that is not much understood outside Britain is Almoner.

Hint: not in general a purveyor of nuts.

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

Quite so Dragnet.
Rather poor planning to introduce a soaring oratory when it was so susceptible to simply being muted.

H B Bear
H B Bear
October 26, 2021 10:36 am

Never use your best stuff for interlocutors stuff. Save it for Broadway.

Arky
October 26, 2021 10:38 am

Dotsays:
October 26, 2021 at 10:35 am
Minor parties like the LDP, PHON and UAP need to have law reform and constitutional reform policies.

..
Minor parties like LDP, PHON and UAP need to come to an electoral agreement for the next bunch of elections to avoid head to head contests in electorates where they are best set to do well, and a common preference strategy.

Zipster
Zipster
October 26, 2021 10:38 am
H B Bear
H B Bear
October 26, 2021 10:39 am

*interlocutory

Fuck autocorrect. I reckon it now puts in twice as many errors as it ever finds.

lotocoti
lotocoti
October 26, 2021 10:39 am

Meanwhile, back at Clusterfuck Palace.

“I don’t recall ever being handed a weapon that was not cleared in front of me – meaning chamber open, barrel shown to me, light flashed inside the barrel to make sure that it’s cleared,” Wright said. “Clearly, that was a mismanaged set.”
Actor Ray Liotta agreed with Wright that the checks on firearms are usually extensive.
“They always – that I know of – they check it so you can see,” Liotta said. “They give it to the person you’re pointing the gun at, they do it to the producer, they show whoever is there that it doesn’t work.”

calli
calli
October 26, 2021 10:39 am

Riccardo got some publicity. I wonder who alerted the ABC?

EvilElvis
EvilElvis
October 26, 2021 10:41 am

Bosi is running for the election. He’s now headlined on the ABC. A hundred thousand dollars of advertising right there.

Again we have victorian dumb and dumber here explaining to each other that they’re so smart. Holy shit! Abusing a judge isn’t going to get you off??? Someone tell that Bosi guy, he doesn’t know that! Literal cringe fest.

Their plan of action for the last 18 months to address any of this? Stay home! Mask up! Obey Dan, and now….Get the jab!

Yep. The cat can be relied on like clockwork for people wanting change and whinging about the current state of affairs while also needing to hold the moral high ground and tut tut anyone who steps out of the pure as the driven snow, strong conservative column. Bosi is just 2021’s Pauline Hansen. Tut tut, tut tut…

You really wonder at what point they’ll actually get angry at the country’s circumstances and concede that holding the moral high ground may give you the warm and fuzzies but getting in the sewer and slinging shit is what’s really needed.

With the amount of circle work on the Cat from a few prolific posters over the last two years I really should have got into Dunlop stock.

Dot
Dot
October 26, 2021 10:41 am

Oh yes and indictable offences heard in local courts.

Consider what I have said above.

A police inspector, police prosecutor and an acting magistrate could actually send you away for decades or fine you massive amounts after they’ve stolen your funds for a legal defence, and try you as many times as they need to to get the conviction and sentence they want. You can’t prove your innocence and there are no common law defences. You have no right of appeal.

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