Open Thread- Mon 1 Nov 2021


Still Life with Lemons, Oranges and a Rose, Zurbarán, 1633

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  1. Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure Avatar
    Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

    I see above that the blanket statement has been made that Oz me who visit/live in SE Asia are probably kidee fidlers.

    This is a shocking slur on our friend & (hopefully fondly remembered) former Catallaxian, Yobbo. I’m horrified & shocked by proxy on his behalf.

  2. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    Zipster.
    If you really want to know what triggered me to thinking about that topic (apart from the girl in WA), it originally crossed my mind a few weeks back when Sir Ron Brierley (although I think the “sir” might have been rescinded) got 14 months in jail for possession of thousands of child abuse images on his computer.
    Arrested on his way to Fiji.
    He is 84 years old.
    I’d hazard a guess that this is not a hobby he just took up in retirement.

  3. Zipster Avatar
    Zipster

    I think I raised it yesterday

    yep you did and today… again was there a specific story you wanted to get off your chest?

  4. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    I see above that the blanket statement has been made that Oz me who visit/live in SE Asia are probably kidee fidlers.

    Worth pursuing safeguards was what was said.
    Considerable more evidence to support it than the red shoe pizza theories advanced here with very little comment.

  5. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    See 10:38.

  6. Rabz Avatar
    Rabz

    St Ruth – FFS, we are all (except for those who don’t like you or me speaking for them) very unhappy about the fascist idiocy we have been gifted with over the last 21 months.

    Keep the powder dry, Squire. Do not don the red shoes. Do not slag off various commenters because you feel you can and it makes you feel good for a very short period of time.

    Expending your energy abusing those who feel the same way about big stupid government as you do, is counter productive, man. 🙂

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  7. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    FlyingPigssays:

    November 5, 2021 at 10:32 pm

    wow fkhead sancho panchez

    lucky

    Mmmyes.
    You rang?
    BTW, it’s ‘Panzer’ not ‘Panchez’.

  8. Zipster Avatar
    Zipster

    Zipster.
    If you really want to know what triggered me to thinking about that topic (apart from the girl in WA), it originally crossed my mind a few weeks back when Sir Ron Brierley (although I think the “sir” might have been rescinded) got 14 months in jail for possession of thousands of child abuse images on his computer.
    Arrested on his way to Fiji.
    He is 84 years old.
    I’d hazard a guess that this is not a hobby he just took up in retirement.

    you might have noticed that they knew to look in his laptop. have you ever been asked to have your laptop or phone looked at by border officers? I bet the answer is no.

    obviously they knew, so again there are systems in place to catch these people and they are pretty effective. so I don’t know why you are fixated on it.

  9. Miss Anthropist Avatar
    Miss Anthropist

    The dark side is strong in the vaxxies tonight.
    Their games it is that must be lifted.
    Divisive splitters.

  10. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    obviously they knew, so again there are systems in place to catch these people and they are pretty effective. so I don’t know why you are fixated on it.

    Pure luck.
    He got dobbed in.
    After how many years?

  11. Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure Avatar
    Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

    Sir Ron Brierley (although I think the “sir” might have been rescinded) got 14 months in jail for possession of thousands of child abuse images on his computer.
    Arrested on his way to Fiji.

    Definitely a tip-off.
    No way was his stop, & subsequent search of his USBs & hard drives a “random” stop.

    However, what am I missing here:
    He was charged with having almost 50,000 images of solo children (i.e. no pairs of children & no other people in the photo) on his various USB/drives.
    There were no images of children being abused, molested, or otherwise interfered with.
    One, and only one (1) of those images was of a child with no clothes on.

    So why’d he get so long in the calaboose & such a stern barking at from the judge?

  12. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    Anyway, I still think I will write to the minor parties about it.
    PHON seems red hot on child protection, and Bosi has his theories too.
    They can only bat it out of the park if they don’t want to touch it.

  13. Rabz Avatar
    Rabz

    Sir “very long dead” Brierley

    Is not worth wasting pixels on.

    Enough.

  14. Zipster Avatar
    Zipster

    Definitely a tip-off.

    no. google et al report on searches without warrants

  15. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha Avatar
    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    This is a shocking slur on our friend & (hopefully fondly remembered) former Catallaxian, Yobbo. I’m horrified & shocked by proxy on his behalf.

    There’s a blast from the past. What happened to him?

  16. Zipster Avatar
    Zipster

    apple, google and others report on illicit image content again without warrants

  17. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    Ah, where did you get that “harmless images” from Sal?
    His lawyer tried a lot of spinning on the steps of the court, but that wasn’t what was read into evidence.
    Do you think he got 14 months for possession of grade six school photos?

  18. Zipster Avatar
    Zipster

    apple now even reports on whats on your device without warrants, so does microsoft

  19. Rabz Avatar
    Rabz

    err, on the subject of the Bosi.

    He was a personage I presumed was a “mate” and was capable of low level incursions into big stupid braindead lamestream mass meeja shibboleths. To paraphrase, about the Croempverts: “I wouldn’t trust her to feed my dog”.

    I’ve seen the man hold an audience on a figurative string, among gliberals such as the Yabbott, Molan and Craigo Kelly. The room was spellbound when the Bosi was expounding. He was the only one who gauged the mood in the room.

    How he’s managed in the interim to fall off the flat edge of the earth, I have my hypotheses about. It may involve a certain loved one in his family. Which means we should stop squawking triumphantly and think about how happy we’d be if it happened to us.

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  20. srr Avatar
    srr

    Frank Furedi | ‘The Kids Aren’t Alright’

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7S0hIB6D29c&ab_channel=JohnAnderson

    Nov 5, 2021
    John Anderson

    John is joined by Frank Furedi, Emeritus Professor of Sociology at the University of Kent, for a fascinatingly broad Direct interview.

    Frank unpacks where he thinks society has gone wrong – blindly focusing on ‘safety’, setting our children up to fail in various ways, replacing traditional morality, unduly growing the role of the state and much more. From Big Tech to universities to Covid-19, no topics are off-limits.

    Frank Furedi is Emeritus Professor of Sociology at the University of Kent. He is the author of 25 books, including most recently ‘100 Years of Identity Crisis: Culture War Over Socialisation’. He regularly comments on radio and TV in the UK, and has been interviewed by the media in Australia, Canada, the United States, Poland, Holland, Belgium and Germany.

    A long-time friend of the program, Frank was one of John’s earliest
    Conversations guests, first appearing on the show in April 2018.
    ————————————————————————————————————–
    00:00 Intro
    00:26 Introducing Frank Furedi
    01:45 Moral engineering
    03:05 The state replacing parents
    06:34 Understanding gender dysphoria
    08:08 The identity problem
    11:04 Introduction to ‘Scientism’
    14:58 Sidelining morality
    21:30 The ‘morality’ of Big Tech
    25:44 Class divides through Covid
    28:40 The crusade against the past
    33:11 Preserving ancient wisdom
    36:44 Poor mental health among children
    39:57 The medicalisation of ordinary experiences
    43:30 Safety as a moral norm
    48:04 Politics and public health
    53:06 Legislating away problems?
    55:56 Solving the problems our youth face
    1:01:50 Conclusion

  21. Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure Avatar
    Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

    Ah, where did you get that “harmless images” from Sal?

    Stop the sophistry.
    Then consult an optician.
    I wrote “images of .. children” – This is not the same meaning as harmless images.

    Do you think he got 14 months for possession of grade six school photos?

    No. However I struggle with what it was about the images got him thrown into the Ironbar Motel + such a rebuke from Hizzoner.

    I am mindful that a great pile of the charges (or evidence) against Rolf Harris was “thousands of images of women, found on his computer”

    Turns out that’s exactly what they were, images of women. The charges were bullshit, withdrawn at the commencement of the trial, coz there was nothing suss about the images, & they were mentioned with ominous overtones & “possibly” of children, purely to taint the jurors minds.

    I acutely conscious of the depravity & evil of the legal profession, & the wanton indifference of the judicial fraternity.

  22. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha Avatar
    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    How he’s managed in the interim to fall off the flat edge of the earth, I have my hypotheses about. It may involve a certain loved one in his family.

    Well said, Squire.

  23. Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure Avatar
    Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

    There’s a blast from the past. What happened to him?

    Last heard of several years ago, living in Thailand.

  24. Zipster Avatar
    Zipster

    Ah, where did you get that “harmless images” from Sal?

    you’re still obsessing…. can we drop it already

  25. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    How he’s managed in the interim to fall off the flat edge of the earth, I have my hypotheses about. It may involve a certain loved one in his family. Which means we should stop squawking triumphantly and think about how happy we’d be if it happened to us.

    If he was Jack from accounts payable, maybe so.
    But when you aspire to high office you can expect scrutiny.
    And, of late, he has failed under that scrutiny.
    So, if he allows another batshit crazy monologue to fall from his lips, expect it to be pulled to bits.
    FFS, we have all had stresses in our lives without resorting to that SovCit lunacy.

  26. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha Avatar
    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Daily Mail.

    Man’s penis rots after being bitten by a COBRA while sitting on the toilet during a safari tour in South Africa

    Man from Netherlands bit in nether regions by a cobra while on an African safari
    Bite left man with rotting flesh in his penis, requiring reconstructive surgery
    Medics advise ‘always flushing’ before using toilet in venomous snake hotspots

  27. srr Avatar
    srr

    Martini, Ratzinger, Kasper, Bergoglio

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4zsEJGoomA

    Nov 5, 2021
    Church Militant

  28. FlyingPigs Avatar
    FlyingPigs

    but

    Sancho Panzer

    always root ratts

  29. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    Piggy!!!
    Still here.
    Taking the night shift again?

  30. Rabz Avatar
    Rabz

    Panzer – I’ve said my piece in his defence.

    The last time I saw him was at the Crown on a Friday night in Sydney in late 2019 – some cats present that night – jupes, tinta, cassie, dragnet, beery, lizzie. His lovely wife as well.

    It was a good night. 🙂

  31. FlyingPigs Avatar
    FlyingPigs

    Piggy!!!
    Still here.
    Taking the night shift again?

    I’me waiting how their law never protects us.

    What do you think commo???

  32. Rabz Avatar
    Rabz

    #madsydneecatz 🙂

  33. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    We’ve had too many elected to the Senate in recent years wearing a cloak of conservatism who have either been abject disappointments (Jacqui-Jackie) or deadweights (Bernardi).
    We can’t afford any more.

  34. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    Commo?
    How dare you!
    I demadn sitsidfiction.

  35. srr Avatar
    srr

    Can You Pass This 1895 8th-Grade Exam? Not with Your Modern Public School Indoctrination

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uO9V6R3_7E

    Nov 5, 2021
    Bill Whittle

    An 1895 8th-grade exam from Salina, Kansas, provides vivid illustration of how far our schools have descended from “the 3 Rs” of reading, writing and arithmetic, to three very different R-words. Bill Whittle explains the consequences of re-focusing schools on indoctrination, an investment of learning time which holds little to no value in the marketplace. He adds a fourth R.
    (You’ll find a link to the test at https://bit.ly/1895exam )

  36. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    Ooooh.
    Ive split my dirnk down my shirtt.

  37. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    Help.
    Ive falen and cant getup.

  38. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha Avatar
    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    We’ve had too many elected to the Senate in recent years wearing a cloak of conservatism who have either been abject disappointments (Jacqui-Jackie

    From memory, Jacquie Lambie was elected to the Senate as a member of Clive Palmer’s Traveling Circus.
    She resigned from that party, to sit as an independent. That’s when the by – election for her seat should have been called…

  39. FlyingPigs Avatar
    FlyingPigs

    and the itallians have admitted only 3+ dead from covid instead of 130 plus,

  40. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    She resigned from that party, to sit as an independent. That’s when the by – election for her seat should have been called…

    Not quite.
    No by-elections for the Senate.
    Parties get to appoint replacements when senators appointed under their banner die or retire.
    Going off reservation doesn’t count.

  41. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha Avatar
    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    No by-elections for the Senate.
    Parties get to appoint replacements when senators appointed under their banner die or retire.
    Going off reservation doesn’t count.

    I’m well aware of that, thank you. Isn’t it time that going “off reservation” meant that the likes of Jacquie faced her electorate?

  42. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare Avatar
    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    But what a burden you and family have with what certainly seems to be an inherited predisposition to inflammatory bowel conditions. I know what incredible discomfort they can cause & how difficult they are to get back under control. My very great sympathy.

    Thanks, Vicki. Thankfully, it’s not the dreaded Crohn’s Disease, nor any unspecified Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS) with me though, nor any parasitic hangover from travels or fruit trees (parasitology is what we used in the MPH to call the last resort of the diagnostically desperate, lol). It’s definitely a specific focal infection for each instance, can be palpated abdominally when at its peak, and is curable for a given attack with an antibiotic (different types can be trialled, including those that work against anaerobic bacteria). I could go for many years without an attack, then out of the blue another would happen. Without antibiotics is when it gets difficult, as the inflammatory response kicks in and generalises. It can also be masked by a recurring Urinary Tract Infection (UTI) such as I got in hospital this year thanks to incompetent catheter nursing. Getting antibiotics was usually no problem while my Big Sis was still practicing medicine, for I’d call her for a script and thus it was done and dusted. She’s retired now though and doesn’t keep up a Provider Number nor medical insurance.

    Without my sweet ‘well woman’ gynaecologist, who extended her whole person view beyond her remit to diferentially diagnose and treat me and who will ensure I get appropriately referred, I think I might have gone under this time. Youse all may have noted a few depressive comments, if so, sorry ’bout that. I said to Hairy tonight I thought a few times I was on my way out, and he replied you think I didn’t think that and had to do something.

  43. MatrixTransform Avatar
    MatrixTransform

    The Director’s rego number is no biggy.
    It is basically to stop shonky dickheads walking away from the wreckage leaving creditors and employees high and dry and setting up another company again in the same business under a tweaked variant of their name.
    Really not much different to a TFN or ABN/ACN.

    yeah?
    it’s just a vax
    it’s just a passport
    it’s just a director’s rego
    it’s just a gag
    it’s just a blindfold
    it’s just a firing squad
    it’s just to stop people saying things
    it’s just a tax
    it’s just compliance
    it’s just about principles
    it’s just probity
    it’s for your own good
    it’s for the greater good
    it’s just a centralised database
    it’s just a primary key
    it’s just a query

    Chesterton’s database
    …it’s just the way we do things now

  44. H B Bear Avatar
    H B Bear

    Going off reservation doesn’t count.

    It should. If you resign from the party you were a member of at the time of election, the seat should stay vacant till the next Senate or half Senate election. I don’t think you would see it happen too often, certainly not amongst people with fewer job prospects than Emma Alberscreechi.

  45. Rabz Avatar
    Rabz

    We’ve had too many elected to the Senate in recent years wearing a cloak of conservatism who have either been abject disappointments (Jacqui-Jackie) or deadweights (Bernardi).
    We can’t afford any more.

    A two headed personage* in Taxmania has eight times my vote in New South Corruptistan.

    *If they both manage to mark the ballot correctlee.

  46. Dot Avatar

    More sexual corruption in Australia than SE Asia you foul fuck.

    Okay, prove it.

    I am not saying you’re wrong. I want you to try and convince me.

  47. Dot Avatar

    It should. If you resign from the party you were a member of at the time of election, the seat should stay vacant till the next Senate or half Senate election.

    Nah dawg…can you imagine staying in the Liberals after COVID and bett zero?

  48. Sancho Panzer Avatar
    Sancho Panzer

    I’m well aware of that, thank you. Isn’t it time that going “off reservation” meant that the likes of Jacquie faced her electorate?

    She has.
    Twice since leaving PUP.
    That’s Tassie.

  49. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha Avatar
    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Youse all may have noted a few depressive comments, if so, sorry ’bout that. I said to Hairy tonight I thought a few times I was on my way out, and he replied you think I didn’t think that and had to do something.

    LizzieB, this is the Cat. No-one ever bleeds alone. All the best for a full recovery.

  50. Dot Avatar

    The Director’s rego number is no biggy.
    It is basically to stop shonky dickheads walking away from the wreckage leaving creditors and employees high and dry and setting up another company again in the same business under a tweaked variant of their name.
    Really not much different to a TFN or ABN/ACN.

    It is just yet more industry capture. All large corporations benefit. Competition is being killed off.

  51. Zipster Avatar
    Zipster

    The Director’s rego number is no biggy.

    neither is being microchipped

  52. Rabz Avatar
    Rabz

    an inherited predisposition to inflammatory bowel conditions

    To exist on this planet is to be blessed with “inflammatory bowel conditions” when contemplating those that think they have some right to rule over us.

    Enough. Get those tumbrils a’ rollin’, I tells ya! 🙂

  53. MatrixTransform Avatar
    MatrixTransform

    they want oneGov

    select * from directors where ideology==unsound
    insert probe

    I want my QR tattoo now dammit!!

  54. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare Avatar
    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    The pre-antibiotic days must have been hell on wheels. Various forms of gut inflammation took a lot of people out – armies were particularly prone to epidemic dysentries. Longshanks comes to mind as one of those felled by dysentry. Then obstructive gut infections and disorders, such as mine, or appendicitis.

    Then we move to the top half of the body – the liver, heart and lungs. Full of bugs thriving in conditions of poor human nutrition and sanitation. Even without zoonotic introduced epidemic diseases. The immune system struggling to keep up and so often not making it at least but making survivors stronger. Not to mention issues with the bones, circulatory system and specially the head. So much to go wrong.

    After that, you could of course just go mad.

    I’m glad to day we have modern medicine and dentistry. And quite a few competent doctors even though you might have to take trouble to seek them out.

  55. egg_ Avatar
    egg_

    “Sovereign” citizen?

    Victor Davis Hanson Diagnoses The Dying Citizen

    Hoover Institution

  56. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare Avatar
    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Forgot to mention bumping uglies, and all that medically pertains to that.
    On second thought, best not. 🙂

  57. MatrixTransform Avatar
    MatrixTransform

    New OT up.

    fascist

  58. Winston Smith Avatar

    Zipster:

    just goes to show that a bioweapon does not need to be particularly deadly to be extremely effective.

    IIRC, Bioweaponry is classified as a psychological weapon rather than a killing one.

  59. Winston Smith Avatar

    srr:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uO9V6R3_7E
    The most unused resource we have available in the modern world is the generation who have retired.
    They have skills, knowledge of what works and what doesn’t, and they are slowly dying, of loneliness and grief, as ignorant graduates of the Marxist systems of social deconstruction teach our children how to view the world through a distorted prism of politics.

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