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Tip of the hat to Danger Dan. He played edits from this song in the clip above. I have not…
Bloggs Peter Cunningham • 9 hours ago Pay the rent? Just do it! BUT….. We pay rent on the land…
The UK is in financial trouble, joh. A bit like Victoria, local councils aren’t getting the funding to fix potholes…
Ha!
Excellent and cheering stuff. Those stinking mongrel fascist dogs sutton and andrews will never be able to show their stupid ugly mugs in public again, without copping a verbal and (hopefully) physical flogging.
Which is exactly how it should be.
Jupes, hold your fire. I have a post coming out today indicating the perfidy of NSW Health. It has a direct bearing on this latest report as well because the deception carries through here too.
Words fail me. Something about cattle trucks suggests itself.
What are the police going to do, except spring into action after someone is shot. And they will likely shoot someone else in the resulting crossfire.
Better to bring in someone from the much hated NRA to teach all people on the movie gun discipline. Their habits (such as checking the weapon as soon as you get it instead of assuming all is OK) would have saved Baldwin a world of hurt.
Oh, and saved a life.
Quite agree, I want others to tell me why my line of thought is wrong and I’ll consider it. Don’t respond if there is no explanation as to why. Of course I expect to be hit on the head with a wet fish or frozen duck if I say something patently stupid. Sometimes we hit post before rereading our “illiterations” (new word for Muddy’s Catictionary) but some here just double down on stupid.
I wonder if they just didn’t think the little girl was worth the expensive big gun antibiotics?
Rosie, can you explain why they couldn’t make a coronavirus vaccine for 60+ years, and now all of a sudden there are dozens of them?
My guess – it is a suddenly removed requirement for the long term testing. Free for all, and let’s see what happens. You can even say the long term testing is being conducted “live”.
And deliberately too.
Unashamed cherry-picking.
The Paywallian’s silly old Whitlamite fossil Paul Kelly just made me laugh out loud: he’s terrified of Albo getting wedged on nuclear power:
Because Morrison believes in nothing and is pedalling as fast as he can to adopt Labor policy before next year’s election, he’ll probably listen to ALP ideologues like Kelly, let Albo off the hook and give him a rails run to the Lodge.
Morrison fancies himself as a retail politician, but he has a blindspot even the normies can see: if you want a Labor government, you vote Labor, not a Liberal pretending to be Labor
On this day in 1599:
Wait, wait…..
And:
Charles crushed the last resistance to his rule, particularly in Finland, while Sigismund had already retreated to Poland.
And:
Bastard whitey.
Don’t feel like accepting ‘terrible’. Don’t feel like sending a signal that I am content with ruining the national economy for the sake of Da Planet under the Libs merely because it is two years later than Labor.
Palmer’s mob is looking to contesting 150 seats? Might worry the Libs that the people they consider don’t matter (precisely because ‘Labor is worse’ and therefore they have to vote Liberal or risk Labor) can go somewhere else and they suddenly do matter.
Suppose Palmer bags a dozen seats by taking them from the Libs. The Libs will have to court Palmer’s members. Let them be mavericks or lunatics. A little disruption would have to be a good thing.
Greens have infested Labor so it scarcely retains any of its working class roots. Perhaps conservatives can infiltrate the Libs.
Blockquote fail.
Clearly, the Internet has hatched a technology-based conspiracy plan just for me. What say you, Magic 8-Ball?
All signs point to Yes.
*gasps*
Coerced flight attendant who took forced injection under duress suing airline after being hospitalized with adverse effects and ongoing pain/health issues post-jab.
dover0beachsays:
November 10, 2021 at 9:00 am
pandemic of the vaccinated
The numbers for NSW are misleading and deceptive. Exceptionally so.
You spelled “deliberately” incorrectly.
Seven in 10 West Australians support Mark McGowan’s target of a 90 per cent double dose vaccination rate before reopening WA’s border to COVID-affected States.
Surely he needs nine in ten to support it?
Dr F
Snap!
Zipster:
Apparently there are two satellites, one Russian and the Chinese, that describe an exaggerated ellipse(?) whose low point is over Washington DC.
Speculation is that they are EMP weaponry – anyone else heard of these?
Maaates.
Nobody does official corruption like Australia.
just in case a crime might happen? baldwin is a moron, how about actors learn to double check their “safe” weapons instead of acting like prima donnas
Zipster:
There’s your problem right there.
‘Actors are generally stupid people.’
Anthony Hopkins. Having spent a professional life time among them he ought to know.
“Socially – aware. ” was supposed to be bolded.
“Ross Eastgate did a good job in the Speccie arguing that: “LNP is terrible but Labor is much worse”.”
Quite frankly, I’m fucking sick of this argument.
Patient Zero, responsible for the just-finished Darwin lockdown/lockout is unhappy (the NT News):
Extremely reliable sources indicate that she is one of the regular troupe of pole dancers traipsing around the country working poles^ for cash. To do this, they just lie on their border entry forms.
This one also happens to have planned, and engaged in the traditional practice of handing out post-show polishes to the local (pissweak) Hells Angels for ice. Attagirl.
*Failed local businessman who took the usual path of becoming Chief Minister. Labor, of course, which explains why he’s also hooked up with an ABC reporterette.
^PHRASING.
Always, always, believe the parents, said the senior surgeon to us when after a weekend of terrible run-around I had insisted we visit the children’s hospital for the third time with our collapsing daughter in our arms. Had I been a less experienced mother and left the child overnight as we had been instructed by a junior hsopital intern that afternoon, after a locum doctor had also done a house call and declared her merely suffering from a tummy bug, our darling girl aged 4 months would have died.
She had to have an immediate barium enema reduction of a telescoped bowel (Intussusception) with a full surgical team on standby in case that didn’t work. Thankfully, it did work.
If only these administrators in Western Australia polishing their nails behind the front desk in Emergency had listened to desperate parents of a little dying girl trying to make their voice heard.
John of Mel, I think you have posed one of the most important observations. You are right – immunologists and all their ilk have indeed been pursuing the Holy Grail for a vaccine for corona viruses for generations. With zilch results, and a lot of dead animals used for experimentation.
With the arrival of gene technology, not unexpectedly the efforts multiplied. To give them their due, I understand that they have been improving the “platform” for the development of gene vaccines over the years. I read an article (will try to retrieve) tracing this development.
However, developing a procedure is hardly the equivalent of developing a safe product. And this is where you are spot on. In the past longitudinal clinical trials have stretched over a decade to establish safety protocol. And trials that produce the sort of adverse reactions we are seeing now would have triggered an immediate cessation of the trials!
What really makes me incendiary is that all researchers, all medical bureaucrats, indeed – ALL GPs – KNOWS THIS!!!!
Early this year, when I attended a large birthday celebration (the last one before lockdown) a medical friend announced that he and his wife had just been “vaccinated”. He asked had my husband and I made a booking….I said “No, we won’t be getting one”. Perplexed, he inquired, “Why not???” “Well, I said, you know it takes at least 5-7 years, at a minimum, for full development & trials?” He just nodded, & his wife got to her feet, & changed tables. Says it all.
ALPBC News misreads its Charter. Mistakes it for the Australian Institute media agency agreement.
The Immunisation Handbook – it’s a handy guide to what to expect.
Guidance for administration of vaccines in accordance with the relevant legislation, best practice and the Handbook guidelines and recommendations.
They possibly ask you to sit down for 15 minutes because you appear unhealthy and unsteady on your feet. I get a flu jab every year and never been asked.
tatoo! tatoo! the vulnerables, the vulnerables, they’re getting away!
Heartless monster.
It’s not just Global Heating, there’s ‘fatal humidity’ forecast here.
Good article on scomo going green:
Has Queensland turned on ScoMo for going green?
Charles Pier
It’s in the Spec so the stingy folk who haven’t subscribed won’t be able to read it, although I’ll put it up later; but as usual I have put in a sensational comment, reproduced here for your edification:
I just don’t understand why scomo has gone this way. Possible explanations are the greens in his own party, of whom there are many, plus the influence from the deplorable Kean and Photios in NSW; also scomo is getting intense pressure from overseas climate goons like that joke of a human, Boris and that cadaver, Biden. And we know scomo has the heart of a pea and has deliberately disavowed culture wars of which the climate scam is the centre-piece.
But scomo must realise he won in 2019 ONLY because he supported coal and opposed the green idiocy of the labour liars. He must remember the Hunter by-election where the Nats only got back in because of coal and the walking ego, turnball and his protégé, lost for the same reason. This is beyond dispute.
Yet here we have scomo not only capitulating on coal and his prior climate position but also adopting the policies about EVs and other climate nonsense of the labour liars which he had ridiculed previously. Doesn’t he remember what happened to the WA idiots liberals who went greener then the labour liars and were reduced to one hand clapping in the toilet.
I think it is scomo’s pea-heart and the pressure from within his own party and the ratbags in England and the US doing this. And we, the Australian electors are going to suffer. We are left with PHON. LDP and Kelly’s new party. Choose carefully folks because if the labour liars get in you’ll need candles.
Spinach surges 400%: Vegetable prices skyrocket/Is it because of the outbreak or the coming war?
China Insights
Chatting about this with a GP friend.
Synopsis: They don’t teach this. It took me about 5-years to work out that, whatever the presentation, I should be worried when mum is worried.
John of Mel
Why is it up to me to explain this?
I’ll hazard a guess though, this time there’s a pandemic that apparently has taken five million lives and many people dont have time to wait ten years for a longitudinal study, medical technology has advanced enormously in the last sixty years and there are sufficient financial rewards to stimulate people doing the research right now.
Btw I link articles from various sources like the Guardian and the ABC etc for the purpose of robust discussion not because I ‘endorse them’.
None of us are infallible.
Apparently there are two satellites, one Russian and the Chinese, that describe an exaggerated ellipse(?) whose low point is over Washington DC.
Speculation is that they are EMP weaponry – anyone else heard of these?
I’ve heard of EMP weapons. Operation Starfish was where this became obvious.
Taking out Washington D.C. with one would probably be welcomed by most of the people in the US.
Unfortunately most of the really important government communications will be hardened against EMP.
To be really effective the satellite perigee should be lowered to ,oh,say, a kilometer or so 🙂
Another State govt that understands whom it is responsible to.
As well as:
– Parental written consent required before vaccinating minors
– Preserve the right of medical doctors to prescribe whatever they judge best for their patients
– No govt ordered mandatory vaccination and unemployment benefits for people fired from their jobs for not accepting vaccine
I remember a long time ago my children’s pedestrian said if mum’s worried, I’m worried and if grandma is also worried I’m really worried.
Always remember that ScoMo was Trumble’s second choice – his first choice being himself again. Trumble postponed the leadership vote so he could put up an infatuated nobody who would not repudiate the Trumble legacy and who would keep Dutton out.
Whatever you think about Dutton the amount of low hanging fruit for a real conservative somehow getting the top gig means it would take them a while for their foibles to even get a chance of asserting themselve.
For example, as a former police officer Dutton perhaps a little too predisposed to see ‘authority’ solutions. He has done well in portfolios where that is the natural element. That was probably why Trumble hated him. (Also probably because Dutton is not an elitist while Trumble really believes he is above the rest of us in every way that matters.)
A conservative getting in can spend the first few years ditching the AGW nonsense, the gender and race ‘wars’ (only one side is at war), removing activism from the public service, chastising the ABC with a chainsaw, and trying to bring spending back under control.
Me, late last night. And yes, Arky did delete that comment, so for Arky I have no right of reply to 4 dickless upticks who asked for deletion of something I had said upthread that they deemed ‘facetious’ but which was not (now 6 DI’s, so over you all go pronto to raise those stakes). The DI’s stand, my corrective response does not. I’ve added another, so let’s see.
If Arky had wanted his thread to be a simple listing he should have made far clearer terms of reference; ie. state sex, age, type of vaccine used, effects and duration, hospital visit or not, medical opinion on the effect sought or not, whether the vaxxed was personally known and were the effects verified to the commenter. I’ve no objection to data collection with no discussion if the terms are clear.
The trouble with Arky’s thread is that it is neither fish nor fowl. Some well off-topic comments stay, others are axed, many people, including me, respond discursively, and Arky flounders around being a school-teacher to adult people.
“Those are the findings of a survey conducted by Painted Dog Research in the days after the Premier confirmed WA’s border would stay shut until late January or early February.”
Painted Dog Research
Breaking in the Oz:
Crown prosecutors have won a High Court appeal to prevent NT cop Zachary Rolfe from using an immunity clause in police administration legislation that says people are not liable for acts done in good faith in the course of their duties.
The Northern Territory Supreme Court had previously ruled he can.
Lawyers for Constable Rolfe will no longer be able to claim he acted in “good faith” in his role as a police officer at his upcoming murder trial over the death of Kumanjayi Walker during a botched attempted arrest in the outback community of Yuendumu.
Despite finding in the prosecution’s favour, Constable Rolfe will still be able to use the defence of self-defence or of acting reasonably in his duties.
Lizzie, Arky was very clear in his requirement. I treated it like an exam question or a spec, repeating back to him to make sure I got the parameters right. He wanted vaxx side effects in as few words as possible, ie. a list.
Areff acknowledged slightly off-topic and put up a couple of excellent links exposing WHO perfidy.
It takes some quality finessing to do that though. Campbell Newman tried hard doing some of the above but fell on his sword in the end in Queensland.
The Zipster linked to this Tucker interview last night – I suggest that everybody watches it and understands<a href="November 9, 2021 at 9:48 pm
Candace Owens: We are not building back anything better under Biden
Tucker Carlson”> what Candace is saying.
We will have to differ on that, Calli.
His thread has turned into a dog’s breakfast of inc0mplete information and ‘things Arky likes’ left to stay. The tone of his dismissals has been disgraceful.
Safety catch on.
this time there’s a pandemic that apparently has taken five million lives
More likely about 5% of that number died OF the coof. The rest tested positive or may have been showing symptoms.
Operation Warp Speed may turn out to be Trump’s worst ever decision by a long, long way.
By holding out the promise of a vaccine soonest, it caused governments to go for lockdowns until it was available and distributed instead of simply protecting the vulnerable and letting the rest go about their lives. Hence the corner cutting. In engineering this inevitably comes back and bites you on the bum.
Governments always want to be seen to have 100% solutions which is almost never realistic. 80 -90% by use of HCQ, Ivermectin, an antibiotic and zinc would have been far better without wrecking economies and human freedom.
The human race is very bad at two things:
1. Correctly identifying the problem to be solved. In this case the governments said “eliminate the coof, it is the problem”. Not gunna happen and actually deciding how we live with it was the better answer.
2. Ignoring the results of experiments. Despite numerous cases of qualified medicos treated patients successfully with the drug regime, this was ignored deliberately once the tens of billions of dollars were on the table for Big Pharma.
Admittedly, I had had a hard day here myself, making me question why on earth I bother with Catallaxy, which may have coloured some of my critique.
That legacy is the globalist agenda.
Only globalists allowed.
Is it not obvious to all and sundry now as to what is going on?
It’s not a conspiracy theory when they tell you themselves, and then act on what they say they are going to do.
From Jacinda Adern, Greg Hunt, Boris Johnson, The French PM, the Dutch PM, the list goes on, are all graduates (Greg was Prize winning) of the WEF, who’s billionaires have planted in governments all around the western world.
Tony Abbott, useless though he was, was not a globalist traitor, so he had to go.
Malcolm , globalist at large, wouldn’t hand the PM’s chair over to Sutton because he wasn’t a globalist.
We were even told this would happen before it did.
By the Earle with the funny eye, Remember?
Quite simply, we have globalist traitors inserted into western governments with big money behind them and they are in the process of destroying Australia.
All good, Lizzie.
If someone wants a veggie patch, I won’t spend hours designing the Hanging Gardens of Babylon.
Mind you, it would be fun, but time is money! 😀
I’m still on extended antibiotics and anti-inflammatories and still have to miss my dance classes, all of which also makes me cranky. 🙂
Lord Monkton.
California’s COVID rate is now twice that of Florida
Florida, which is packed with elderly retirees from the northern states, has properly focused on the most vulnerable and left the rest of its citizens free to live their lives without let or hindrance. The results are notable.
California… not so much.
descended from a long line of sidewalks
I hate articles like the above, they pay these companies for a semi pre-ordained output. PDR knows exactly what they want, and it gets massive publicity for itself by producing it, everyone wins.
You’d think we’d learn.
Who died and made this your responsibility?
Your posting history would make you one of the least credible people here to take any kind of advice from.
I neither need nor want any help from you and your overflowing dustbin of self credentialed Google-Fu.
Zat iz ‘im!
C.S. Lewis Comes to the Big Screen Reluctantly
New film tells the story of ‘The Most Reluctant Convert.’
It’s because Science!(tm) and Pandemic!:
this seems to be pretty accurate
Noze iz izzent. Iz name iz Lord Monckton. He iz a lord*.
I think I shook his hand once when he was here in Ncl with Jo Nova. Famouz iz me!
He’s still sniping at the climate nutters:
As The Elite Posture And Gibber, The New Pause Shortens By A Month (today)
He’s using UAH which I know from comparison to the snow line data is also running a bit hotter than reality. Not as bad as the other temperature datasets though.
* Very long running trolling line that makes lefty heads explode lots.
Luckily these things don’t happen anymore. We’re civilised now:
List of NSW’s top earning public servant workers and wages
NSW public servant workers are raking in the big bucks, with some earning more than the PM. Now their wages, job titles and identities can be revealed.
h/t Craig Kelly
young tiffany is back
01:32 Chinese bus falls into river, 13 dead
02:48 Chinese village flooded, residents devastated
03:50 Taiwan: we won’t be forced to bow to China
05:35 China denounces Taiwan president’s speech
07:06 China accuses Australia over its Taiwan comments
08:25 China’s Xi misquotes revolutionary leader
09:51 India, China fail 13th round of border talks
10:49 Authorities harass family over forced relocation
13:26 China to bar private capital from media industry
15:05 China orders coal mines to boost output
15:44 CIA forming a mission center targeting China
17:28 HK university orders Tiananmen statue removed
19:44 Czech voters oust communists from parliament
20:33 Congo’s $6B China deal ‘unconscionable’: RPT
22:11 China restricts British beef imports
Anyone suggest where I can find a relatively safe investment for my youngest daughter? She’s 19 and works hard plus full time uni and has saved $20k, it’s sitting in a bank account with virtually 0% interest. No interest in playing stockmarket etc but I was thing index funds? Any suggestions for research will be gratefully received.
Craig Kelly MP
@CraigKellyMP
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While Aussie families & businesses have been doing it tough, top NSW public servants are enjoying massive taxpayer-funded salaries
No wonder they don’t rock the boat & are so eager to suck up to their political masters while our Human Rights are trashed
To read the whole dailytelegraph article click on Craig’s link in his tweet.
https://twitter.com/CraigKellyMP/status/1458220281311293443
Just checking, Jupes.
Not related to Arec Barrwin at all. Because…
If you are looking for meaningless 21C jobs with like minded individuals Painted Dog Research looks like a pretty good place to start. Think The Ponds Institute without the credibility or media coverage.
Why not simply ‘an attempted arrest.’
Oh. We know why.
It is the parasitic media’s role and right, as the moral and intellectual elite that anchor our society, to influence the legal process.
They always fuck over the poor and the powerless – and then they hide behind “severely stretched that night”, was the little girl a person of colour?
Why not help her buy a house, sfw?
Somewhere low-price where she can either live in it, and rent out a room to someone else, or where she can just rent it out wholesale. Or live in it. Better than paying rent.
Ah autocorrect, what did we do without you?
Despite the exhortations of their parents, most children are pedestrian.
Senator Rennick calls on Scott Morrison to halt Moderna now!
November 10, 2021
On the 20th October, there was a reported death of a 14-year-old girl to the TGA who had taken the Moderna vaccine.
I have written to the Prime Minister asking that the vaccine rollout for children stop immediately.
For the last 18 months Premiers have used the precautionary principle to destroy our country by shutting borders, imposing lockdowns and keeping our children out of schools.
If the precautionary principle can be used for COVID then why can’t it be applied in regards to vaccines, especially when it comes to our children.
The media of course have said nothing.
If you have had an adverse reaction please email Senator Rennick
[email protected]
sfw, although your daughter may not want to play the stock market, Russian Power companies are the go if she decides to try it.
With the the Northern winter predictions being severe, the reliance on Russian Coal, Oil and Gas, it could be a nice little earner. My son has invested in a couple of these companies.
Just a thought.
If you’ve built, say, an autonomous target selection and terminal guidance system
for a super carrier killing ballistic missile, it’s probably prudent to test it on a shootex.
Or it could be a cheap way of throwing certain super carrier owning busybodies
into an expensive panic over stuff you have hinted at, but don’t actually have.
Nice switch Lizzie.
Dover has every right to allow Arky to do what he does. Disagree sure! But you do not have the right to demand anything and debase the meaning of free speech just because you’re on the other end of ban hammer and not cheering when it happens to the people you don’t like.
I hope Johanna isn’t moderation giving you the opportunity to pick scabs for days and weeks after like you did many times at the old site.
My super is in Colonial First State index funds. I can switch the allocation between a bunch of different ones – including overseas shares, Aussie shares, property, bonds.
I dont have one for ‘subsidy-hoovering greeeen energy’ index though.
I regard CFS as a subsiduary of the Commbank and thus suspect; just had a presentation from a group that uses ‘Dimensional’ fund managers and gets over a point higher than CFS longer-term.
An index fund is playing the market.
Unless you mean day-trading, which is not a good idea for a novice.
Listed hybrid investments might be worth looking at.
Issued by major entities (eg big four banks) with a face value of $100, they trade on the ASX and are priced like a bond.
If buying on market at, say, $102/unit you have to factor in that this will fall to $100 on maturity.
Not completely risk free and carries more risk than a bank deposit.
Usually redeemable in 4-6 years they pay a premium over Bank Bill Swap Rate, usually paid quarterly and fully franked.
The degree of franking benefit will depend on her marginal tax rate.
(Not advice, merely a suggestion for further investigation).
I would say Bluetooth glasses but that idea was stollen last year.
How can you bear it?
Smuggling bear parts in Australia and New Zealand (9 Nov)
I wonder who is importing all these bear bits? It’s a mystery! Still, I suppose, it is one way of paying for all that iron ore.
whack it into the ASX200 ? (asx:vas)
sfw.
You said she is at uni.
Can she pay an advance off her HECS debt?
I don’t know the numbers on that but her only risk would be that she never reaches the repayment threshold or some future government wipes HECS debts.
(As if).
The dictionary contradicts me and says they are both the same thing i.e a place to store hay. I disagree.
To me at least, a “hay shed” is like a iron roof resting on four pillars to keep off the worst of the rain. It might have one (or maybe two) enclosed sides.
A barn on the other hand is fully enclosed on three sides, and has “barn doors”. Some European farmers will raise their cattle in a “barn” during the Winter snows.
I don’t fancy the chances of the Oxford Dictionary changing the definition on my say so. The fucking no nothing wankers.
Silver Ghosts are old and busted. New hotness is the Uranium Ghost!
Rolls-Royce launches nuclear reactor business (9 Nov)
Sounds excellent. The usual suspects are moaning though.
Volcanoes got standards, man…
Garage nasties building a Frankenbear army would be my first guess.
Depends on the manufacturer to a certain extent.
At a volunteer railway I drive at on weekends, two large, open hay shed-like structures (literally pitched roof, trusses and vertical bearers with no cladding) are referred to as ‘barns.’ They are effectively extend
sions off the loco and carriage sheds, using one wall of the structure as support.
Conversely, the tram guys behind us have a long covered shed in which all their trams are kept. This follows the traditional name of such structures as a ‘car barn.’
you stupid kevin
Gary Ballance accused of calling all people of colour ‘Kevin’ in new Azeem Rafiq report claim
Aussie Cossack trying to build one from parts? I’m sure he misses his trips to Siberia.
Rex, no one cares what the stupid “Choo Choo” people think.
We are talking about farms. Please stay focussed.
Crypto.
$20k invested in Bitcoin this time last year would be $84k today. Returns like that don’t come without risk but she is young.
Dictionaries have a woeful record when it comes to rural terminology.
In this case your dictionary is totally & completely wrong. You are correct.
Verbal laziness (one syllable instead of two & no hard work consonants) + the inappropriate application of invading north american words, may mean “barn” gets used where “shed” is 3,000% more accurate.
Haysheds are, as Rex says, a pitched trussed roof with 4 corner posts, & nothing else. Sometimes there will be one wall (of corrugated iron or something), sometimes up to 3 walls.
Barn is a two-level fully enclosed walled structure, with pens & stalls for livestock, and the hay/straw for those animals stored directly above them.
Never in my life have I heard the word “barn” used in Australia.
Likewise I’ve never seen a Barn in Australia – mainly because we do not have the inclement winter that barns are built to cope with.
Next thing you will be arguing that a “carport” is a “car barn”.
Armadillo says:
November 10, 2021 at 12:00 pm
I’ve never heard anyone call their haysheds or any other structure on the farm a barn?
The dictionary contradicts me and says they are both the same thing i.e a place to store hay. I disagree.
I’ve never heard of a barn being built or used to store hay on farms in Australia.
You could if you wanted to but that’s not the reason for a barn.
Barns were built to store bagged grain or chaff. Often tin fences were put around them to keep mice out as well as tin plates on the stumps.
We have three old barns on the farm. They’re full of odds and ends.
Clive Palmer always upping the ante-
Every hayshed I’ve been near is made from corrugated roofing iron.
Every barn I’ve been in has insulated walls, usually wooden – they’re designed to keep warm within.
France extends COVID-19 booster shots, requires them for health pass
Eyrie
To be really effective the satellite perigee should be lowered to ,oh,say, a kilometer or so ?
Many years ago (around the time of the Iran hostage crisis) an American friend commented that “You can solve a lot of problems with a 500 Kt airburst”.
Aaaah! The joys of cycling .. Gotta luv ’em .. LOL!
Just passing Yennora Railway Station and .. ZAP, ZOWIE & KAPOW! .. a flat tyre .. duuuh!
20kms dun and 20 kms left on my daily bike ride …! On the bright side it’s the cycle path route that is 20kms, the more, obvious, direct road route home is about 14 kms ..
Anyway, nuttin’ else to do but start walking/pushing (I don’t, usually, carry my phone or wear a watch, besides no one to call!) all going well until I cleared the retail sector of Fairfield and just into the residential when HUGHIE decided to say, “HI”. Sooo from Fairfield to Fairfield Heights .. DOWNPOUR! .. Nowhere to shelter and no point anyway .. could be in for hours or minutes .. Threw the raincoat on, which at least, covers the head if not much use otherwise!
Tho overcast the rain stopped by Fairfield Heights and the rest of the walk (6kms) was just sticky & humid .. Home just before 12 .. Normally, setting out at the time I did, without mishap, Id of been home around 10.45 so earlier than I expected ….
The enjoyable factor that comes out of it all is that even tho I turn 74 first week in January the 14kms walk was no hassle, didn’t raise a sweat or leave me panting/gasping or shattered just a, I’m guessing here, 2 hours stroll with a backpack & bike for company .. plus a change of scenery…. LOL!
The precautionary principle is all things to all people.
The precaution being taken here is an attempt to reduce the risk to the elderly, by reducing the spread of Covid in the community.
Belt and braces protection for the heavily vaccinated over-70’s cohort. Stiff shit for the bulk of the population of children who are exposed to vaccine risk, but no significant Covid risk.
It would be slightly less confronting if the inter generational exchange of risk was honestly and clearly explained.
Does it have overhead line?
Car barns kinda need overhead line, otherwise you waste a lot of effort and energy trying to skull-drag your tramcars in and out of it…
Don’t know if this has been put up if so sorry for that:
More here
The ‘Precautionary Principle’ is a erudite sounding bit of nonsense of dealing with the fact that these people are way outside the boundaries of their knowledge. It was a favourite of Warmies to justify their most ludicrous (and exorbitant) brain farts. They needed only peddle a scary scenario and declare we must guard against it, cost be damned.
No idea of risk as being an assessment of an events consequence and likelihood. The likelihood part:
> Made it less scary than the immediate image of untold horrors,
> Was too mathematical to work out,
> Would mean analysing the supposed consequence to do the calculation thus seeing if it is even a possibility, and
> Would mean weighing alternatives where more economic options might be recommend themselves.
The ridiculous principle would demand we divert money from hospitals to protecting ourselves from rogue asteroids that would wipe out all life on Earth. Or moving living in underground bunkers to avoid being killed by plane crashes.
Warmie scenarios were far fetched and improbable, so they just went with the scare, and then sagaciously uttered ‘Precautionary Principle’.
It is the soapbox of the deranged zealot.
Crypto.
Tulip bulbs.
Warren Buffet favours index funds for small investors . There are no expensive management fees for such investments.
Much of that attention was drawn to a section titled “The Bet.” In 2007 Buffett offered to bet $500,000 that any combination of hedge funds that a fund manager chose would not outperform an S&P SPX index fund over the subsequent 10 years.
Asset manager Ted Seides, of the money management firm Protégé Partners, took Buffett up on his bet. Seides selected a combination of five funds-of-hedge-funds to compete against the S&P 500 fund.
He won the bet.
Way back when I was in Grade 3 of Primary School, we were taught how to write news reports.
“… Kumanjayi Walker who died during a botched attempted arrest”, would have got an us an “F” for “Fail”.
Enough “F” for “Fail’s” and we would be held back to repeat the year.
It was those great old teachers who taught me well enough to be able to recognise propaganda when I saw it, and so I got branded a, “Conspiracy Theorist”, very long ago.
It’s also why I don’t trust any educated people who keep trying to smear anyone who points out the massive use of propaganda in the West.
I thank God for those great old teachers.
Good for you — Wish I were so inclined but I am here having a cuppa and a biscuit – can I claim a couple of those Ks — I need the exercise.?
Kelly is on a good tack attacking and exposing the Public Service. Always gets a sympathetic hearing among the wage slaves.
His problem is that there are so many public servants, quango staff, subsidised scammers and overpaid academics, the wage stiffs are outvoted.
The only matter our “leaders” didn’t exercise the “precautionary principle” on was the vaccines.
My daughter’s DA sat on the Environmental Officer’s desk for over two months because removal of four trees on part bushland acres.
I get bemused when I read this sort of thing .. I had half a dozen trees up to 6metres in the backyard and all I did was go out with a chainsaw, handsaw & axe and bring ’em down! Never occurred to me I needed anyone’s permission to deal with a few trees who’s only fault was annoying me by growing to, bloody, tall ..!
Then again, living in the ethnic utopia of Fairfield, NSW involving the Council in anything other than something too big/dangerous to do yourself isn’t standard practice .. lol!
UAP email.
it’s war I tells ya
Dibs living inside a fake volcano crater, You Only Live Twice-style.
Man needs a cave when he’s setting up his own space programme…
Post on Shenanigans at NSW Health now up.
Or a barn.
Doesn’t need to have a technical or tactical upside.
The Chinese are probably aware of the stupidity and gullibility of the Western press. They have released a story that will feed into their cramped and cluttered little minds from which they will sound sombre and nervous warnings about America’s peril and urge people (and politicians) to do nothing to antagonise them.
The Chinese are well aware of the propaganda power of the press and would have the measure of our miserable angsty prima donnas.
They can look to weaken their opponents resolve by less direct means that weapons.
And that is the character of our press, to be lurching from imperious overconfidence hectoring people to frightened pleading toddlers who want people to chase the monsters away, and lurching back again.
Weather front slap-fights. Glorious.
And I was out in it in Perth yesterday, shunting more acid than SRR and the one-man Struth-and-Reconciliation Committee can generate on this blog in a week.
At least my socks didn’t get wet this time. But the lightning strikes were a concern…
Just watched The Lotus Eaters summary of the Ritterhouse trial.
In a reasonable world he will probably dodge the murder charges, but he still has to deal with being a minor carrying an illegal weapon at a demonstration. To simple me, that reality largely undermines his position.
Plod caught a bloke filming the jurors. They forced him tol erase but did not take his details. Wondering, wondering.
A most excellent distraction for rugged Scotsmen with their autogyros, fast cars and relentless charm and sheer manliness… 🙂
And if it were fully automated inside, so much the better!
An auto-barn.
#SomebodySlapThatMan
Barn
In ostraya everything is a shed.
hay shed
cow shed
tractor shed
big shed
tool shed
little shed
etc
Never heard of barns outside of NH.
The Left will have its show-trial. And it will have its example to show the rest of us little people that breaking the ankles of the jackboots being stomped on our faces is unacceptable…
How about the rest of us in NSW and Victoria?
Migrate to New Caledonia.
Look Rex. You guys would be stuck playing with your little sticks without graders. Who generally are the most experienced and use the most technically challenging kit on site.
And all I did was disagree, Bespoke. Note last nite I said the site was Dover’s to do with as he wished. As usual, you are putting up straw men about me.
As for Johanna. Sinc placed her in moderation for her own good; nothing to do with me. She clearly has issues with fixation.
As for ‘harping on’ about her in the past. That’s utter nonsense. I am always glad to see the back of her and her fixation with me. You though have always done everything you possibly can to demean and dislike me. Your prerogative, but you are a duplicitous and rather nasty person. I have occasionally tried the hand of friendship with you over your expressed family problems, as I have with Johanna over her real estate woes, but you are like a crazy dog that then turns round to bite me. So I have no interest in your views now, nor any desire for converse with you.
I’ve seen grader operators around the Metronet trackbed sites at Canning Vale and Jandakot with some sort of antenna attached to one end of the blade.
Is this supposed to be some sort of GIS repeater/transponder to keep the operator on the programmed level? Or do they set up multiple lasers across the site and the antenna plots those to do the same job?
Dillo,
“I’ve never heard anyone call their haysheds or any other structure on the farm a barn?
The dictionary contradicts me and says they are both the same thing i.e a place to store hay. I disagree.”
Agree with you. All the years I have lived or worked on farms, properties, stations etc, we never called anything a barn. It was always the hay shed, the machine shed, the tractor shed, the chook shed, the cow shed, etc. Generally a common theme. The only change we made was for horses, who are obviously more special than other animals, their shed was always called “The Stable”.
Dogs had “the Dog yard”, with the requisite old water tank or broken old ute canopy.
The word Barn is only used by the wanna-be’s who live in the dinky 1-5 acre, just outside the suburbs, but we’re really farmers, lots. They build the Stratco “American Barn”, design red sheds where they end up storing all their old furniture and impulse buys.
bespoke shows the way.
The fixation Johanna was put into moderation about, btw, was over another person here on Catallaxy, not me that time, for she led this person a worrying merry dance re ‘outing’ for some years; just as she chased me re ‘outing’ with her intrusive but failed sleuthing. She is a nasty piece of work.
You get that on the internet.
Incoherent Rambler,
SNAP!!!
You are another one Rambler, by and large incoherent. A hater.
@EmeraldRobinson
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Pogria, if you are not new here please let us know.
If you are genuinely new here, don’t try to join in something you have no idea about.
Be there or be square!
sob.
weep.
Oyve been named.
No. You’ve been shamed. A hater from way back.
Go and join the Labor Party. They just love haters.
Emerald Robinson Exposes Institutional Rot in the Conservative Movement
[continued sob]
May I please join the righteous
fewone?Soooooo, BRADBURY launches himself into election mode with a pathetic whinge at STAIRMAN DAN & lockdowns .. all from a bloke who was in the position to do something whilst they were in place but preferred gallivanting O/S to showing some real leadership in OZ ..!
Too little, far too late! .. LET’S GO BRADBURY …….!
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/scott-morrison-blasts-daniel-andrews-melbourne-covid-lockdowns/ar-AAQw3Wi?li=AAgfYrC
A bit of dickless upticking going on.
Storm’s a comin’, maw.
Dr. John Campbell
Haters need to be repelled.
They are kryptonite to a blog.
Car barn.
Yes. Yes. A million times yes. It needs to be added into the lexicon.
‘Carn barn’ is the new normal.
linky
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufy2AweXRkc
I trust you appreciated that swift, little uptick I gave you KD>
Johanna sees though the shell game you’ve been playing and thank for not including me in that grotesque competitive sport you claim as empathy. Save it for the gullible.
CAD.ASX
Insh’allah my brothers.
Dickless. Because a touch screen was unavailable.
just like ivermectin. well well well. lookidat
I am proud of inventing that term, KD. It should go to the Catictionary.
Mindless upticking as a pile-on, kindred to groupthink.
Differs to normal upticking as it is done by the dickless brainless.
Storm’s already here on the Vaucluse peninsula, creeping over The Gap, KD.
Thunder and splattering rain. Three days of it to come apparently.
I’m aheadin’ to the hurricane shelter. Under the stairs probably. 🙂
True enough.
Arguably the PP has a useful place in questioning whether an innovation that could cause great harm should proceed at all.
Properly (yes, I know) applied to mass vaccination of children in the current circumstances, the PP would be formulated:
Proposition:
Test:
Answer:
Conclusion:
Going the On Balance Net Benefit route is not being precautionary. But, when you’re playing God, it sounds better to pretend it is.
Not any good underground Rex. So never used one.
I’ll just leave this here:
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Spam
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Monty Python – thank you!
renewables the gift that keeps on giving from the ABC
Johanna sees through her own twisted fixation.
Not even Specsavers can help there.
I’ve always found Johanna to be eminently readable and an astute observer of all things.
Not least of which, a Nimitz or Gerald R. Ford class supercarrier can motor almost indefinitely at 30+ knots. Even with a ballistic missile with a total flight time measured in minutes, terminal guidance for anything other than a nuclear warhead will be problematic.
Ditto the problems posed by the cloud of flak fire and interceptor missiles the carrier and her escorts will be putting up.
The Soviet Navy planned to try and overwhelm US Carrier groups with conventional and/or nuclear supersonic missiles lauched in 360-degree saturation attacks from Backfire and Blinder supersonic bombers. And even then, they had such little confidence that they would get more than one or two through the aerial (particularly once the F-14 appeared as a direct counter), broad-area and point defences and decoys*, that they made the missiles themselves massive enough to break a carrier’s back in one go.
* I say this as there is an apocryphal tale that the Oliver Hazard Perry frigate allegedly had a radar signature as massive as the carriers it was intended to escort. So like the line of guys who jump up to try and deflect the ball when a soccer player conducts a free kick close to the goal, a frigate getting obliterated by a missile big enough to break a carrier because it cannot tell the difference between the two may well save the entire battlegroup.
Hell of a design brief.
Arfur should stick to the canapés and rather agreeable fizz.
So true! In 2020 I followed (or attempted to!) the erudite and heated argument between Nassim Taleb (the “Black Swan” man) & distinguished mathematician & epidemiologist, Dr. John Ioannidis regarding the “precautionary principle” as applied to responses to COVID19.
Not surprisingly, Taleb favoured the “precautionary principle” in pulling out stops to guard against infection (ironic, given that he eventually contracted Covid), while, as I recall, Ioannidis insisted that the statistics did not warrant an exaggerated response.
I chose to follow Taleb throughout 2020, & often cited, in my ignorance, the precautionary principle, in justifying my concern (read “fear”) of the virus. But by March this year, I came to the realisation that the “precautionary principle” can lead you into an unexpected and dangerous place.
Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare says:
November 10, 2021 at 1:17 pm
Haters need to be repelled.
They are kryptonite to a blog.
Lizzie – give it a rest please – you’re not doing yourself any favours here and, if it’s bothering you this much, perhaps you should consider a little away-from-the-keyboard time or, as I suggested some time ago, give a hearty “Get fucked” and continue and ignore.
What a shame none of these stooges bothered to ask the Navy what they thought about the matter.
And more specifically, what the Submarine Service had to say…
Yes. When her fixation is in abeyance and sanity prevails. She is, as I’ve often said, an excellent commenter at times. And I have never wished for her to be moderated; Sinc did that off his own bat, and not for me, but for someone else.
It’s no secret JMH that you are a hater, you definitely want me gone, always have, and yet here I am still. I am no worse nor better than anyone else who comments here but I am a lightning rod for some. People who know me don’t go off like that though. 🙂
It is amazing that the idiot Liberals, after winning repeatedly elections where Labor has gone full Green about AGW and lost, draws the conclusion that people are all on board with the Climate Change agenda.
How out of touch are they? How can they stay so out of touch?
Next football match or cricket match that imbecile Morrison is ushered into – where he gets out of the comcar and totters to the boxes with that mentally deficient grin as if in a moronic rapture, eyes brimming with joyous tears, and looking hopefully around him for someone to share a moronic grinning ‘connection’ – if people do not start chanting “Let’s go, ScoMo” then I will start a petition to have all sport defunded as not serving the national interest.
Hi Dover.
I put up a reply to prior comments about China making fake carrier decks in the desert to test missiles on, but it has one too many hyperlinks on it.
Can you release it please?
Thankee. 🙂
Australia won’t buy nuclear submarines from US, UK: Arthur Sinodinos.
Well, that’s it then. We aren’t getting any nuke subs.
Lizzie, it has been well and truly blasting away for a good couple of hours up here in the NSW Central Tablelands.
No walk for me today…..ventured out of the house gate earlier but a good crack of thunder put paid to that!
So have since been reading Gigi Foster et al book “The Great Covid Panic” – really recommended, though I noted that Gerard Henderson didn’t seem to like it when he interviewed Foster.
Have put book down for a while to catch up with the New Cats & Jo Nova blog. Trouble is – power going off and on with frequent lightning strikes. But we needed the rain as pasture was starting to “go off”. Creek will rerun to full flow now……but I expect that our limestone driveway from the road to house will partly wash away as usual in really heavy downpours. Horrible prospect – as shovelling limestone to “top up” is damn heavy work.
Either both, or just a laser set blade controller.
Thanks for you concern, Tony, but with regard to some detracting people it is perfectly obvious to me and others I will never do myself any favours here. That said and thoroughly understood by me over the past eleven years, I will not let a heap of dickless wonders, some long-term and others new, who having nothing better to do pursue me here without giving them a little hint of free range aggro back. It’s only fair. 🙂
It’s lunchtime now and I have lots that is better to do so please do move on.
I would hate to interrupt more pressing matters.
FUCK SCOTT MORRISON!
He said no mandates, yet he sat by and watched us be medically raped and have our human rights tossed in the garbage.
FUCK HIM.
NSW court rejects exemption from vax mandate on religious grounds.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-11-10/paramedic-john-larter-has-covid-vaccine-case-dismissed/100608970
More evidence that the court system is completely useless in fighting the current insanity imposed on us.
Never heard of barns outside of NH.
Not true IC
We called them barns.
Tall with a steep pitch, on stumps and vermin proof.
Some were built with top quality wood on the floor so it could be waxed and used for local dances. We’ve got a barn like that.
We Need STRONG & INDEPENDENT Men! (becoming a better person) – Jordan Peterson Motivation
Getting them from the US (and to a lesser extent the UK) means they would be built without the endless compromises that would bedevil design, fabrication and delivery in Australia. In the US they already have the social permissions to build them and our undergraduate protestor class too far away – we could end up with submarines that were built primarily for defence.
Instead we will get sea-going curiosities embodying the worst muddled progressive nonsense requirements regarding gender, race, AGW, and God knows what else.
Hell, they have had no trouble with any other jobs being off-shored. Now suddenly they have to put their stompy little fee town?
Sadly, not for me either, and I really do need to get some gentle exercise right now.
It’s always nice to hear of your days, Vicki. I miss Helen’s accounts of her cattle station life that we used to regularly get, and some others who are here not at all or only rarely now. Always good when more people from diverse (horrible word) backgrounds come onto the Cat. I share my life because it is the only one I have, and I guess that’s what other people do too.
Arfur should stick to the canapés and rather agreeable fizz.
Arfur, demonstrating, once again, that deep brown-nosing beats ability any day of the week ..!
Never forget this is a bloke who got paid $350 thou a year to run NSW Water by Eddie and had no idea what his job entailed when asked about it at a Parliamentary enquiry into Water costs …….
To be honest, I expected long ago that someone would have created an account under the name of Upticker just for the laughs.
Maybe Douglas Upticker?
Farmer Gezsays:
November 10, 2021 at 2:00 pm
Farmer Gez’ useage of the noun “barn” is the closest & most accurate to the old English origin of the word.
The etymology of the word would (I’m presuming here) track directly from his district via early settlers, to the original use of the term.
What a dismissive piece of work she must be.
And what is this “objection to the virus” nonsense? Is it a typo by the illustrious ABC reportette, Melinda Hayter, or did the judge really say that? And do you notice a little omission from the judge’s “belief” shopping list?
I’m sure the judge knows exactly why Christians are objecting to these vaccines. But it wouldn’t do to advertise the fact, would it?
Someone wants a dicky ticker?
Haters – all over there in that corner, please – so I can throw stuff at ya!
Meanwhile, I’ll dicklessly uptick my own posts so can feelz utterly loved and relevant!
FFS
Am I to take it ‘dickless upticking’ is the comfort term used when the tide of opinion is going against someone?
I haven’t taken it too seriously since Arma called for me to be booted. And…sob…six,six agreed with him.
The Cat was unfair that day. And mean.
All I wanted were some formatting buttons for DashCat.
Riiiiiiight…not a single sympathy tick.
You animals!!!!!!!
Meh! got him and Arky to request the same within hours.
Test…
I’m a unifier I am.
In other news, the wood ducks have brought in their babies for my inspection. Five fluffballs have survived the predations of eels and owls and other things that go bump in the night.
I wondered why an adult bird was perched high on top of the flat-top pool fence looking intently at the ground. Now I know the answer.
Well Calli, I upticked you.
And I did not have a single picture, likeness or product of a certain Australian icon anywhere near me as I did so.
Does that make me a Dickless Upticker?
Whoops. A premature whinge.
Sorry.
LIAR. You were showing off. Spill the beans.
[insert spilt bean here]
H/T: Wood ducks don’t like slashers or mulchers.
I was with you until you mentioned the reason.
Formatting is the Devil’s typeface.
In my day we would engrave posts onto slabs of granite that we had gnawed the letters into with our own teeth. And to send it you would have to tie to the foot of a sparrow you had to have brought up yourself to have hypertrophied musculature. No buying sparrows from farms where they gave them steroids. We couldn’t. Because money in those days were made of lead ingots 50cm along each side! Just buying a loaf of bread for ‘three leaddies’ was difficult enough.
So you can forget about engaging my sympathy about ‘formatting’!
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There ya go, Arma. (A colon and capital P). Emergency use only.
I just gave bespoke a tick when no one was watching.
Really? Some fencing contractor you are.
I just used hardwood…
I’ll have nothing to do with your witchery.
Are you the last of the Moai?