Open Thread – Mon 6 Dec 2021


Massacre of the Innocents, Jacopo Tintoretto, 1582-8


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Arky
December 7, 2021 10:18 pm

I seem to be one of those characters who has to learn everything the hard way.
This isn’t such a bad thing.
You sure do remember those lessons.
It’s like doing a night navigation. I’d be the bloke who’s foot found every bloody rabbit hole while others just walked through.
I’d struggle to think of a major life disaster I haven’t blundered into. Car crashes, picking the wrong mates, getting into fist fights, bad investments, wrong chicks.
One thing I’ve learnt is there is nothing to gain from angry and abusive online back and forth.
I’m not playing that game. I won’t do it. ANyonevwho wants to do it with me can play solo, I’m not participating in it. It’s stupid, and only the stupid do it.
If Dover is happy to give me a small corner of my own to play in, and a handful of thoughtful people show up, we’ll, that’s enough for me.

JC
JC
December 7, 2021 10:20 pm

Rex,

There’s a lot to stoush about. Farming and mining are “nofink” while sitting at a bench pulling a lever every couple of seconds is tops as far as work and it’s even better if the firm you’re working for (perhaps 70% of Chinese companies) barely breakeven.

Bu farming and mining are nofink.

jupes
jupes
December 7, 2021 10:20 pm

That’s assuming your Good2NotGo gets approved,

Haven’t even tried that yet. Apparently I have to apply for an exemption of some sort to enter my own state. McClown really is a turd.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
December 7, 2021 10:22 pm

Mate, you’ve really had enough to stoush. Honest. Would you like a glass of water? Please gamble responsibly. No-one is safe until we are all safe. Can I get you a taxi? We are all in this together. All enemies of the regime will be executed. Hail Hydra.

[In my best, carefully modulated, tone-neutral, smoother-than-the-Lindt-Chocolate-ads Shipping Report voice that makes the luuuuverly laaaaadies all terribly confused…]

Top Ender
Top Ender
December 7, 2021 10:23 pm

There’s damage control, and there’s people making bad decisions – not necessarily related.

Most modern navies these days train in “NBCD”, which means taking action against nuclear, biological, chemical, and damage threats. In WWII the damage section was mainly fire and flood. So your average sailor learns to fight fires in confined spaces, or for that matter anywhere in the ship. In flood control you want to stop a compartment filling up with seawater, so you use shoring, and plugs, and dams and so on.

From what I’ve read the Japanese were pretty good in these areas, and given their enthusiasm for getting things right I expect they were enthusiastic about it.

lotocoti
lotocoti
December 7, 2021 10:23 pm

You can hear the banjoes playing once you’ve crossed the Pine River bridge.

Kevni and Swanny grew up in the posh part of Nambour.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
December 7, 2021 10:25 pm

sitting at a bench pulling a lever every couple of seconds is tops as far as work

Strictly speaking, if you take away the incineration risk, dangerous goods, mental fatigue factors and the possibility of losing just about every conceivable appendage to crush or guillotine injury due to a moment’s inattention, that’s exactly what I do to earn a crust.

But I do get to wave to people. And they wave back. 🙂

#EverybodyLovesATrainDriver

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
December 7, 2021 10:27 pm

From what I’ve read the Japanese were pretty good in these areas, and given their enthusiasm for getting things right I expect they were enthusiastic about it.

The sole failing being, there just apparently weren’t enough of them…

JC
JC
December 7, 2021 10:28 pm

One thing I’ve learnt is there is nothing to gain from angry and abusive online back and forth.
I’m not playing that game. I won’t do it. ANyonevwho wants to do it with me can play solo, I’m not participating in it. It’s stupid, and only the stupid do it.

You almost broke the other blog, you delusional fuckwit and now you’re wearing a white robe? Don’t make us laugh. Anyone who is as delusional and a debbie downer like you, who pretends to claim ownership of someone’s property, is a laughable clown. Your comments about economics on the open forum will NEVER go unanswered, because you’re a clown. That’s not negotiable and NEVER will be. Now fuck off back to your own thread. Post a comment about economics that causes dry retching and there will be a response. You ridiculous clownshow.

That is more or less how you speak to other people on those depressive Debbie Downer threads of yours. Don’t like like. Suck dick.

JC
JC
December 7, 2021 10:37 pm

Now , just to get back to basics.. Mining and farming, but mining more so is the most highly capital intensive industrial sector going. Capital to labor ratio is extremely high which is why firms can afford to pay high wages in that sector.

I’d dare say most countries in the world have one of two sectors they excel in. Farming and mining are our two and they’re at the top in terms of efficiency.
It’s not Nofink!

We’re good despite the headwinds created by the organized labor.

Top Ender
Top Ender
December 7, 2021 10:38 pm

Yeah Rex, I reckon in the end the IJN was just overwhelmed.

In many ways of course.

They made a few bad decisions now and again, but then again wasn’t it Napoleon who said “give me lucky generals” – he meant ones who made their own luck.

I remain puzzled by their attitude towards submarine warfare in that they very often attacked warships. Given many types are specifically designed to sink you, and their people trained to do so, then why do that?

Dot
Dot
December 7, 2021 10:40 pm

Regret:

Look how “Lana Rhodes” started life as an aspiring model/actress (could have been yuuuge) under her real name of Amara Maple and ended up “getting injured” so badly she can’t do anal anymore.

That all happened in about 10 years.

My advice for young aspiring wahmen:

Think of Holly Valance or Kristy Hinze, who married very wealthy men.

Baba
Baba
December 7, 2021 10:41 pm

I have never been chipped by a blog owner. Who else can say the same?

Arky
December 7, 2021 10:42 pm

I have never been chipped by a blog owner

..
What do you mean chipped?

Dot
Dot
December 7, 2021 10:46 pm

Most likely your doctor is a coward!

Shawn Baker MD
156K subscribers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGNPWCfLino

JC
JC
December 7, 2021 10:46 pm

What do you mean chipped?

Had a blog closed down because he went complete nutball with Egg. That was you , right? In 15 years that old blog had never been closed down even as a consequence of bird attacks. Some achievement.

Arky
December 7, 2021 10:46 pm

Of course, all online abuse is ugly, but one might be tempted to forgive it if it has some wit, a turn of phrase or demonstrates a unique facility with the English language.
Otherwise: meh.

Baba
Baba
December 7, 2021 10:51 pm

JC, you been chipped?

JC
JC
December 7, 2021 10:55 pm

Of course, all online abuse is ugly, but one might be tempted to forgive it if it has some wit, a turn of phrase or demonstrates a unique facility with the English language.
Otherwise: meh.

Yea. we recall the egg stoush. A real interesting blast wit and the clever use of the english language was superb.

Also, comments of yours relating to economics. Truly, thought-leader stuff.

Frankly, you’re very lucky Dover is easy going. If you had ever claimed ownership of my blog or treated commenters the way you have, you would be metaphorically six feet under by now.

JC
JC
December 7, 2021 11:00 pm

JC, you been chipped?

Yea once. Actually it was on Driller’s blog. He posted a comment I thought was racist about Indians at the old cat and I then copied and pasted it at his unread blog. He removed the comment and put his blog on moderation after that.

Otherwise, I’ve be never been banned, never had a comment removed anywhere. I’m a good guy.

MatrixTransform
December 7, 2021 11:03 pm

for the vaxed only:

after you go to Myers and vax-in
and you’ve done your Chrissy shopping
when you got to leave
be sure to bother the shit outta the door bitch
insist on showing yr pox-port on exit
and when they protest
ask if they’re absolutely sure that you don’t need a pox-port to exit

as a parting shot be sure to tell them that the Germans were much better organised

JC
JC
December 7, 2021 11:06 pm

Matrix

Can we also ask for evidence of their covid shot? I argued with a door bitch (male) at Good Guys the other day. I showed him my vax info and I then demanded to see his as I wasn’t sure he was vaxed.

MatrixTransform
December 7, 2021 11:07 pm

optional: let them know they’re a piece of shit

JC
JC
December 7, 2021 11:10 pm

optional: let them know they’re a piece of shit

Tell them it’s the law they have to show you proof they’re vaxed if they ask for yours. They get really confused. The fucker at Good Guys showed me his vax dets. True. 🙂

MatrixTransform
December 7, 2021 11:12 pm

Can we also ask for evidence of their covid shot?

god forbid some pain in the arse asks me for a pox-port after we go to drag their sorry arses outta trouble.

I will be telling them that they are MY customers and that if they want climate control they better get busy collecting everybody’s pox-ports before we enter.

ever been in a 60 storey building when the condenser water system isn’t working?

be nice to me

MatrixTransform
December 7, 2021 11:16 pm

The fucker at Good Guys showed me his vax dets. True.

love a shake-down

when my boy was banging on about sea level rise I told him they’d move the Chelsea boat shed 3x this year.

really? he says

I go, well, the didn’t move ’em so much as jack them up and put more sand under ’em

🙂

JC
JC
December 7, 2021 11:16 pm

Egg
if you’re reading this and I hope you are, I owe you an apology.
That I ever allowed the opinion of another to colour my view of you, which it did, speaks of a huge weakness in my character.
Sorry.

I also owe an apology to the other dude, but I’ve forgotten his blog name

cohenite
December 7, 2021 11:17 pm

Otherwise, I’ve be never been banned, never had a comment removed anywhere. I’m a good guy.

You’re a fucking pansy. I’ve been banned from more places then you’ve had cigars.

JC
JC
December 7, 2021 11:23 pm

Cronkers

That comment of yours got me thinking . You suggested that it will be very hard to have the gerbilers retreat from their staked position.

Economics could very well take care of that. If you think nuclear is going to have a show then renewballs will be sitting ducks.

MatrixTransform
December 7, 2021 11:27 pm

Tom Connell

boy needs a beard and an a Akubra

rickw
rickw
December 7, 2021 11:30 pm

Crisp and clear cold, which is a pleasant change from the bastard misting windy cold in Mongyang this morning.

There’s few things more shit than Mongyang weather!

Arky
December 7, 2021 11:32 pm

I remember this lad I did my apprenticeship with, Christian bloke, softly spoken, friendly.
One day the parent company had a sale on for staff.
He asked me if I wanted to go with him to look.
We both went, and he bought a DTI and I bought a set of Tele gauges, which are still in my garage (which is another story, which I’m not sure I’m going to share or not at this point).
Anyway. Next day back at the factory, I am on the lathe trying to true something up in the 4 jaw chuck, and I remember my mate has a new DTI. So I ask if I can borrow it to true up this thing.
He says, quite reasonably, “Sorry Arky, it’s brand new and I just want to use it myself while it’s still in a good condition”.
“No worries” says I, perfectly happy with that, and thinking his explanation quite reasonable, and I thought no more about it. I go to the stores and get a old shitty one that’s been crashed many times and do the job.
But then, bugger me, that very afternoon, he rocks up and asked me if he can borrow my telegauges.
I feel really put out. How can I lend them to him? If I do it makes me the biggest walkover in the joint.
I say “I want to lend them to you, but you just refused to lend me your DTI, how can I lend you these straight after”?
Poor bastard burst into tears and never spoke tome again. Sometimes I’d approach him and he’d glare at me, really furious.
The lesson here is that the thing that gets people the most irate is when you point out some flaw, hypocrisy or other matter where they fucking well know they’re in the wrong.
People who are in the right don’t usually act like that.
I have another one.
After the joint was closed down and after my apprenticeship, I went to see my old foreman Doug, who was starting his own company.
He put me onto this night shift job saying “This bloke has about six weeks work for someone, wants me to do it, but I’m too busy to take it on”. And he recommended me for it.
It was making all these conveyors for a factory which made and packed bog rolls.
The manager was a bit crazy. As were almost everyone he’d hired there, and I realised why Doug had hand balled it off.
This manager would ask me into the office every few days, go into a long whiteboard presentation of his plans for these conveyors, which were to ensure that if one machine broke down all the little bog rolls could continue to around and around without holding up the other machines.
Eventually he had half the factory taken up with great big loops of these conveyors I was to make.
The pommy guy he had trying to machine the plastic tracks for the conveyor rollers had been at it for weeks with little progress. Until I and the bloke I was to work there with, Matt, pointed out he was running the mill bit backwards.
After a few weeks the manager put me on full time.
Every few days more meetings, whiteboard diagrams of bog rolls winding their way about miles of conveyors, and long explanations of his plans to improve efficiency.
Then, after many weeks, he called me into his office. No explanations, no whiteboard, no long discussions of conveyors.
Nope. He was furious. His face was white with rage. He gave me two weeks notice. He was so mad I didn’t even ask why.
I asked Matt. I asked the foreman. No one knew.
It bugged the hell out of me, because I could not work out what I’d done wrong. Everything I’d made was working fine. The project was almost finished. I hadn’t broken anything, fucked anyone or even put my foot in it like I often do. What the hell?
Then, two days before I was due to finish up there was a new guy in the factory. I asked Matt “Who is that”?
“That’s your replacement, he is the managers nephew”.
Ahhhhhhhh.
Most anger isn’t righteous.
It’s a cover for something.
People who have had really shit things happen to them don’t usually go into rages.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
December 7, 2021 11:35 pm

I remain puzzled by their attitude towards submarine warfare in that they very often attacked warships. Given many types are specifically designed to sink you, and their people trained to do so, then why do that?

Doctrine. To the very end, the IJN was all about The Decisive Battle.

It had worked for them as a concept since the Battle of Tsushima in 1904, after all.

Aircraft Carriers were originally a subordinate arm to the battlefleet, but quickly moved into the van or even an independent force. But the doctrinal concept was always to seek to bring the enemy’s fleet to a decisive point and break it.

Subs were (like the RN’s original thinking) for flank protection, scouting and opportunistic strikes in support of that main action. The 2 World Wars’ U-bootwaffen and the WW2 US and RN Submarine Services showed that they were (and remain) more effective as an independent weapon and free-ranging escort well in advance of larger task forces.

The battles around the Leyte Gulf and Samar are instances in which the Japanese Decisive Battle concept came to actually work. But what worked in 1900, 1910 and 1920 was utterly obsolescent by 1944, and the Battle of the Surigao Strait was dominated by superior US tactics, technology and training.

Just another example of a fatal flaw ultimately hamstringing an incredibly professional, forward-thinking and audacious service.

MatrixTransform
December 7, 2021 11:38 pm

Mongyang weather!

Was in Lilydale today … damn near snowing

JC
JC
December 7, 2021 11:42 pm

Threatening people on his stupid threads isn’t depression induced or done out of anger if they disagree with the crap posted. It’s righteous.

Making constant dumb attacks against libertarians and not even realising that the argument you’re using is libertarian isn’t dumb. It’s righteous.

Constantly making comments about economics that a plainly dumb isn’t stupid. It’s righteous.

Nothing wrong here at all.

JC
JC
December 7, 2021 11:46 pm

Lastly , pretending you own someone’s blog and blurting out orders to others suggestive that you have rights to someone’s property when you don’t isn’t delusional dishonesty. That’s righteous.

FMD.

JC
JC
December 7, 2021 11:52 pm

Oh yea, that’s who it is. Armadillo. I apologize to you too in the same vane as the apology given to the Eggster. I should never have doubted your points and why.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 8, 2021 12:06 am

It had worked for them as a concept since the Battle of Tsushima in 1904, after all.

The primary mission of the battle line, of the United States Navy, up until the outbreak of war, was to sally forth and fight the decisive battle in the Central Pacific, six months after the outbreak of war. After 1935, the relief of the American garrison of the Philippines was no longer their primary mission – a fact of which the Chief of Staff of the American Army was well aware. The Philippines would be left to their fate. My memory fails me – the Chief of Staff of the American Army at that time? What was his name again? Oh, yes, Douglas MacArthur. How could I have forgotten.

Miss Anthropist
Miss Anthropist
December 8, 2021 1:00 am

Anybody got a link to Monty Python’s Chinese song?

Miss Anthropist
Miss Anthropist
December 8, 2021 1:12 am

I think the Japanese kamikaze is the ants pants and we should copy it.
Not that I have anything but brotherly love for our RAAFies.

Top Ender
Top Ender
December 8, 2021 2:25 am

The world today seems absolutely crackers
With nuclear bombs to blow us all sky high
There’s fools and idiots sitting on the trigger
It’s depressing, and it’s senseless, and that’s why…

I like Chinese
I like Chinese
They only come up to your knees
Yet they’re always friendly and they’re ready to to please

I like Chinese
I like Chinese
There’s nine hundred million of them in the world today
You’d better learn to like them, that’s what I say

I like Chinese
I like Chinese
They come from a long way overseas
But they’re cute, and they’re cuddly, and they’re ready to please

I like Chinese food
The waiters never are rude
Think of the many things they’ve done to impress
There’s Maoism, Taoism, I Ching and chess

I like Chinese
I like Chinese
I like their tiny little trees
Their Zen, their ping-pong, their ying and yang-eze

I like Chinese thought
The wisdom that Confucius taught
If Darwin is anything to shout about
The Chinese will survive us all without any doubt

So, I like Chinese
I like Chinese
They only come up to your knees
Yet they’re wise, and they’re witty, and they’re ready to please

More at….https://genius.com/Monty-python-i-like-chinese-lyrics

HD
HD
December 8, 2021 3:08 am

In NZ, They really have women with balls in charge.

Tom
Tom
December 8, 2021 4:00 am
Tom
Tom
December 8, 2021 4:01 am
Tom
Tom
December 8, 2021 4:03 am
Tom
Tom
December 8, 2021 4:04 am
Tom
Tom
December 8, 2021 4:04 am
Tom
Tom
December 8, 2021 4:07 am
Tom
Tom
December 8, 2021 4:07 am
Tom
Tom
December 8, 2021 4:09 am
Tom
Tom
December 8, 2021 4:10 am
Tom
Tom
December 8, 2021 4:11 am
Tom
Tom
December 8, 2021 4:12 am
Tom
Tom
December 8, 2021 4:13 am
Tom
Tom
December 8, 2021 4:14 am
Tom
Tom
December 8, 2021 4:15 am
Tom
Tom
December 8, 2021 4:16 am
Tom
Tom
December 8, 2021 4:17 am
Tom
Tom
December 8, 2021 4:17 am
Winston Smith
December 8, 2021 4:31 am

Frank:

Is that the rods from god thing?

Yes, but someone did the calculations and worked out a 20 ton steel projectile with terminal boosters dropped from a large aircraft ?B52 at about 60,000 feet and accelerated to 90,000 feet would have a very similar yield to the one in orbit at about 10% of the cost.
It was in the US Naval Institute magazine, I think.

bespoke
bespoke
December 8, 2021 5:10 am

Iamarky thanks you Tom.

Mater
December 8, 2021 6:12 am

Went and got my shot.

Sitting in the cubicle waiting the obligatory 15 minutes (seething with anger), I see a youngish lady pass mine and enter the cubicle beside me. Tried not to eaves drop, but the acoustics are terrible in those places.

Nurse:
“You’re here for your second shot?”

Lady:
“Yes, had my first on XX/XX/21”

Nurse:
“How’d it go?”

Lady:
“Had serious heart palpitations and the like. Ended up having to have ECGs, etc, but they’ve cleared me for the second one, so here I am.”

Nurse:
“That’s great. I can’t help but notice you’re pregnant. First trimester I assume?”

Lady:
“Yeah.”

Nurse:
“Congratulations, that’s fantastic. You’re gonna love it. OK, you’ll feel a small prick…”

Honestly, me, of all people, sitting there listening to this shit. I seriously couldn’t make it up. After just listening to a nurse (and doctor) tell me how exceedingly rare heart issues are with this shot.

These people are insane. They advise against soft cheeses, cleaning out litter trays, drinking, smoking, etc, but they’ll inject pregnant women with shit that causes them heart disruptions? If it’s doing something to her heart, what’s it doing to the kid?

We live in a clown world. We’re just missing the red noses and big shoes.

Mater
December 8, 2021 6:26 am

In fact, the kid might even get to experience a booster before he enters this world.

rosie
rosie
December 8, 2021 6:46 am
Mater
December 8, 2021 6:56 am

Went and got my shot.

BTW, sick as a fucking dog.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 8, 2021 6:57 am

After just listening to a nurse (and doctor) tell me how exceedingly rare heart issues are with this shot.

Stress, Mater, its the problem. That’s what the Experts say. Nothing whatever to do with a known heart inflammation producing vaccine, nothing at all.

Doctors: UK Faces Up to 300,000 New Heart Condition Cases – Due to ‘Post-Pandemic Stress Disorder’ (7 Dec)

“Senior doctors in London say Britain faces a time-bomb of up to 300,000 new patients with heart conditions – which they attribute to “post-pandemic stress disorder”.

“I’ve seen a big increase in thrombotic-related vascular conditions in my practice. Far younger patients are being admitted and requiring surgical and medical intervention than prior to the pandemic,” said senior vascular surgeon Tahir Hussain, who works at Northwick Park Hospital, a major National Health Service (NHS) general hospital managed by the London North West University Healthcare NHS Trust.”

How odd. I remember when stress caused ulcers. They sold lots and lots of useless nostrums to not treat it for years and years, and pilloried Marshall for telling the truth.

will
will
December 8, 2021 7:00 am
will
will
December 8, 2021 7:00 am
will
will
December 8, 2021 7:01 am
Gabor
Gabor
December 8, 2021 7:07 am

Bruce of Newcastle says:
December 8, 2021 at 6:57 am

How odd. I remember when stress caused ulcers. They sold lots and lots of useless nostrums to not treat it for years and years, and pilloried Marshall for telling the truth.

Reminds one of global warming and compliance by ‘scientists’.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
December 8, 2021 7:15 am

Mater says:
December 8, 2021 at 6:56 am
Went and got my shot.
BTW, sick as a fucking dog.

Sorry to hear it Mater.
Lots of older people I know asking why they should get Pfizer as a booster when they were OK with the AZ shot.
They also wonder why they need it at all as their immunity is unknown and unchecked.
Seems that the perfect safety mantra isn’t resonating with the population anymore.

rosie
rosie
December 8, 2021 7:16 am
Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 8, 2021 7:19 am

Lots of older people I know asking why they should get Pfizer as a booster when they were OK with the AZ shot.

The virus vector approach can’t be used for boosters because, ironically, you become immune to the virus vector. But you must never risk getting a mild Covid infection and causing immunity to Covid.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 8, 2021 7:25 am

are teachers on strike in NSW?

Yep. They want moah money.

Nearly 400 schools closed due to mass teachers strike expected to return on Wednesday (Skynews. 7 Dec)

Bus drivers have gone on strike too. They also want moah money.

NSW Education and Transport Ministers hit out at unions over widespread industrial action (Skynews, 7 Dec)

Train drivers too, but not over moah money. I suspect the root cause for them is the removal of guards, and in cases like the new metro, drivers too.

Christmas in a fortnight and an election in the new year. Funny how this works.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
December 8, 2021 7:26 am

Madness in medicine.
A bloke told me yesterday that his wife, himself and their ten month old went into the GP for a check up.
All well with the QR but then told that the baby was unregistered and then had to fill out paperwork so the baby could enter the surgery with them.

Winston Smith
December 8, 2021 7:31 am

Mater:

These people are insane. They advise against soft cheeses, cleaning out litter trays, drinking, smoking, etc, but they’ll inject pregnant women with shit that causes them heart disruptions? If it’s doing something to her heart, what’s it doing to the kid?

You’re right – that’s insane.
Hopefully.
If they are insane then there’s a reason for their malevolence.
But I don’t think they are insane.
They’re in some crazy inverted world where bad is good, evil is kindness, and common sense fled the arena.
How do they sleep at night?

will
will
December 8, 2021 7:31 am
Mater
December 8, 2021 7:34 am

All well with the QR but then told that the baby was unregistered and then had to fill out paperwork so the baby could enter the surgery with them.

So it begs the question, when they mandate jabbing the 5-11 year olds, are we expected to buy them mobile phones, do we laminate their vaccine certificate and hang it around their necks, or do we create a patch to sew on their cute little jumpers?

I would have mentioned tattoos and microchips, but I don’t want to give them ideas.

calli
calli
December 8, 2021 7:35 am

How do they sleep at night?

By believing their actions are good and just. That they are on the side of righteousness. That whatever the blips may be, what they do is for the greater good.

When you find yourself in this headspace, any action can be justified, and no remorse can ever be felt.

Mater
December 8, 2021 7:41 am

By believing their actions are good and just. That they are on the side of righteousness. That whatever the blips may be, what they do is for the greater good.

When you find yourself in this headspace, any action can be justified, and no remorse can ever be felt.

This.
When I seriously questioned one of the senior nurses doing this, she told me that she was holding back “Armageddon”.

That is one serious God complex.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 8, 2021 7:42 am

They’re in some crazy inverted world where bad is good, evil is kindness, and common sense fled the arena.

Long history of heretics being burned at stake to “save” them. The Bible says nothing of that sort of thing. Passages like Titus 3:10 and Matthew 5:44 are quite clear on general principle. Yet the powers that be absolutely hate being defied and their natural reaction is always “if they won’t do what we tell them they must be forced to do it”. Massive hubris, massive ego, no conception that they may actually be the ones who are wrong.

calli
calli
December 8, 2021 7:46 am

I made that observation about pregnant women months ago, and I hope with all my heart that no harm comes to those little ones from the vax. I haven’t seen any research about the substances crossing the placental barrier, it’s probably something that researchers won’t touch with a barge pole at present.

There was some information about spontaneous abortion that Lizzie took issue with because she thought the information and extrapolation was flawed. One thing is certain – still births and birth defects can’t be hidden for long. If it is to happen, it will happen soon.

calli
calli
December 8, 2021 7:55 am

When the realisation hits, it’s like a freight train. You mention the Bible, Bruce, and I think of Pharaoh, King David and Saint Paul. All doing what they imagined was right, or exercising their right.

We’re all like that though, dressing up our flawed thinking with fancy clothes and attitudes. I can justify crackpot stuff as easily as those nurses.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
December 8, 2021 7:55 am

Adding on to my earlier story Calli, the young woman with the baby is pregnant again and according to her husband was told by the doctor that the coming baby possibly wouldn’t need a jab as the Covid vaccine was passed on by Mum.
The medical equivalent of cross your fingers and hope it goes well.

Dot
Dot
December 8, 2021 8:05 am

Hold the line Dom.

Teachers and bus drivers deserve nothing.

What extra work have they done in the last two years?

Less work is extra work? Who knew! It’s da Science.

duncanm
duncanm
December 8, 2021 8:07 am

rosiesays:
December 8, 2021 at 6:46 am
Australian bitcoin billionaire

so wait.. he defended having to give away $50B of bitcoins that he hasn’t yet proved he owns?

A Florida jury on Monday found that Wright did not owe half of 1.1m bitcoins to the family of David Kleiman. …

At the centre of the trial were 1.1m bitcoins, worth approximately $50bn based on Monday’s prices. These were among the first bitcoins to be created through mining and could only be owned by a person or entity involved with the digital currency from its beginning such as bitcoin’s creator, Satoshi Nakamoto.

Now the cryptocurrency community will be looking to see if Wright follows through on his promise to prove he is the owner of the bitcoins. Doing so would lend credence to Wright’s claim, first made in 2016, that he is Nakamoto.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 8, 2021 8:20 am

Top Ender

From what I’ve read the Japanese were pretty good in these areas, and given their enthusiasm for getting things right I expect they were enthusiastic about it.

Yet, compare the four Japanese carriers at Midway with Bunker Hill and Franklin at Okinawa. All six had raging fires, involving armed and fuelled aircraft. Two were saved, and after emergency repairs, sailed home under their own power. The other four were all lost.

Mater
December 8, 2021 8:20 am

It’s quite well known that volunteer firefighters are sometimes the arsonists who set the fire. It’s understood that they do so because they like the adulation and worship they get as the hero who helped save the day.

I sometimes wonder if some nurses don’t suffer a similar affliction. Whilst they don’t cause the issue, the hero worship and adulation doesn’t provide an incentive to assess or report the situation accurately, either.

Some (clearly not all) thrive on being mounted on a white horse and saving the day. The stories (usually with them as the central hero) constantly abound, and not just during Covid either. After years of it, I just roll my eyes. It’s like clockwork.

I see it as unhealthy when health workers should be rational, considered and unerringly honest. The banging of pots and pans for the NHS, the ‘flatten the curve’ to save the ‘essential’ healthcare sector, and the tik-tok videos, didn’t help this mental glitch.

That some of them don’t want the crisis to end, is no real surprise to me.

Indolent
Indolent
December 8, 2021 8:21 am
Dot
Dot
December 8, 2021 8:23 am

A Florida jury on Monday found that Wright did not owe half of 1.1m bitcoins to the family of David Kleiman. …

Good. Pathetic grifters.

Razey
Razey
December 8, 2021 8:24 am

Dotsays:
December 8, 2021 at 8:05 am
Hold the line Dom.

Teachers and bus drivers deserve nothing.

What extra work have they done in the last two years?

Less work is extra work? Who knew! It’s da Science.

They deserve nothing because they didnt protest the clot shot.

calli
calli
December 8, 2021 8:28 am

It might be a fake, Indolent.

The sentiment isn’t though. They’d do it if they thought they could get away with it.

Razey
Razey
December 8, 2021 8:42 am

Matersays:
December 8, 2021 at 6:12 am
Went and got my shot.

Sitting in the cubicle waiting the obligatory 15 minutes (seething with anger), I see a youngish lady pass mine and enter the cubicle beside me. Tried not to eaves drop, but the acoustics are terrible in those places.

You may be seething with anger, but the .Gov has broken you. There’s no going back, you will simply accept all their mandates, regardless of what they are.

Indolent
Indolent
December 8, 2021 8:44 am
P
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December 8, 2021 8:47 am

TheLastRefuge
@TheLastRefuge2
·
3h
Much like Anthony Fauci writing actual letters to Hillary Clinton professing his love for her, this too is representative of people who are not stable minded.

Stable people of professional constitution, do not do this stuff for public view.

Dr Francis Collins the outgoing director of the NIH and currently Dr Fauci’s boss.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBopklQUzPQ

Diogenes
Diogenes
December 8, 2021 8:48 am

From what I’ve read the Japanese were pretty good in these areas, and given their enthusiasm for getting things right I expect they were enthusiastic about it.

But they had a massive cultural blindspot which is why at PH they concentrated on the battleships and did not send in any torpedo planes in the second wave to damage dock infrastructure and get the support ships.It’s why fighter pilots let bombers through so that they could tangle with the fighter escorts, it’s why their subs didn’t go for supply ships, it’s why , it’s why damage control wasn’t a priority.

In the video I linked yesterday, Drach makes the point the US were anal about learning lessons from their failures. At Coral Sea a DC officer on the Yorktown saw what happened to Lexington, understood what happened, made a report and recommendation and within weeks equipment to purge fuel lines with inert gases was being installed and before Midway it was doctrine to purge fuel lines.

Prior to WW2 the US, and others, underestimated the skill and inventiveness of the Japanese. I hope we are not doing the same when it comes to China.

lotocoti
lotocoti
December 8, 2021 8:49 am

Got a problem with junkies and alcoholics?
Stop calling them junkies and alcoholics.
And why not?
Rebranding islamic terrorists as religiously motivated extremists
meant there were no more islamic terrorists.

JC
JC
December 8, 2021 8:52 am

You may be seething with anger, but the .Gov has broken you. There’s no going back, you will simply accept all their mandates, regardless of what they are.

Yes, libertarians have been warning about big government since forever. And this is where we are now.

rosie
rosie
December 8, 2021 8:56 am

Correct calli.
I notice the anonymous story from the anonymous midwife at an anonymous large UK hospital that newborns were dying in unprecedented numbers from pulmonary haemorrhages has just disappeared.
Another enormous cover-up involving a cast of thousands or more bs?
Because if it was happening in one hospital it should have been happening in all hospitals.

Pogria
Pogria
December 8, 2021 8:58 am

This is cool, I came across it at Ace of Spades.

Word of the Day: FACINORIOUS(adj)
extremely wicked

Ace asked if anybody else read this as “Faucinorious

Funny.

Tom
Tom
December 8, 2021 9:01 am

Hahaha.

RUSSELL, KS—Former Senator and presidential candidate Bob Dole has passed away at 98, marking his transition from a lifelong Republican to a reliable Democrat voter.

RTWT

Indolent
Indolent
December 8, 2021 9:07 am

I notice the anonymous story from the anonymous midwife at an anonymous large UK hospital that newborns were dying in unprecedented numbers from pulmonary haemorrhages has just disappeared.

Perhaps this is the reason.

Most likely your doctor is a coward!

JMH
JMH
December 8, 2021 9:09 am

Demo outside the Salvation Army in Melbourne right now. Rukshan is on the case.

https://www.facebook.com/watch/live/?ref=notif&v=408702224319244&notif_id=1638913500322753&notif_t=live_video_explicit

Indolent
Indolent
December 8, 2021 9:09 am

New Covid-19 Vaccine, Myocarditis Claims From Questionable Abstract In American Heart Association Journal

“Questionable” Is that like “rare”?. Well, at least they’re talking about it.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
December 8, 2021 9:11 am

apparently it is the antibodies the mother produces in response to getting vaccinated that pass through the placenta/are present in breast milk, not the vaccine itself.

Why do the antibodies endure in the baby but not in the mother.

Is this the first step in a new scheme to harvest babies antibodies?

END OF DAYS!

Or…someone making up a reason they are not jabbing kids under five? (At least not yet.)

rickw
rickw
December 8, 2021 9:11 am

Did McClown just launch his own brand of cereal?

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
December 8, 2021 9:13 am

Can we make the ‘Defenders of the Vax’ wear some sort of insignia?
If we are moving towards open warfare then easy identification is required.

Pogria
Pogria
December 8, 2021 9:20 am

aaaargh! I am too scared to look in the mirror right now because I believe I look like Beetroot Bananaby.

Just had a call from Solicitors’ office. Am at the end of a legal battle, just need final signature. HR wants to know, are you double vaxxed? No. Oh, you can’t come near us. mmmmmm, what to do? If you have a swab and it is negative in three days, that will work. No. Oh, how about we send you a document drop via mobile or laptop? No, do not have that kind of phone, do not have laptop. Oh, we’ll get back to you.

They will send someone over to drop it off, but I have to make sure I am nowhere near them when they do. sigh……….. This firm has been really good and I have praised them when asked about them. I should have expected this though. What really bugs me is this will cost extra, of course.

So near.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
December 8, 2021 9:21 am

OK, you’ll feel a small prick…

Deliberate or Freudian?

duncanm
duncanm
December 8, 2021 9:21 am

rosiesays:
December 8, 2021 at 8:56 am
Correct calli.
I notice the anonymous story from the anonymous midwife at an anonymous large UK hospital that newborns were dying in unprecedented numbers from pulmonary haemorrhages has just disappeared.

Go check the weekly mortality statistics. There is no uptick in deaths < 1yr in the UK in 2021 compared with previous years. Its running at its usual average of about 50/week.

jupes
jupes
December 8, 2021 9:22 am

Big Brother at work: I have to download a facial recognition app to be allowed to go home to Perth.

Fucking arseholes.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
December 8, 2021 9:22 am

When presented with chest/heart pain that does not map easily to cardiographs and/or angiograms, medicos first retreat diagnosis is pericarditis, then myocarditis then the ‘patient just imagined it’ then the ‘aww fsck, he’s dead’.
When in doubt, trust the machine!

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
December 8, 2021 9:24 am

I have to download a facial recognition app to be allowed to go home to Perth.

Can you substitute scummo’s picture? He has a free go anywhere travel ticket.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
December 8, 2021 9:25 am

Pogria,

Maybe ask them, merely out of curiosity, what the risks are if you go there and sign in person.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
December 8, 2021 9:26 am

I don’t suggest this as some strategy to put them on the spot. Just to see the thinking and see if they feel confident enough to commit to an answer.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
December 8, 2021 9:27 am

I wonder if the Australian bitcoin billionaire is happy with Frydenberg’s plans to set up a central digital currency, under ­reforms aimed at establishing a regulated onshore cryptocurrency industry (The Australian)
Not content with minimising our cash transactions, he now wants to legislate/control/intervene in the blockchain system that is said to be the most secure and untouchable financial transaction system ever.
Control and taxation are his goals, probably in league with the WEF. Remember, the difference between truth and conspiracy theories is 6 months. And getting shorter.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
December 8, 2021 9:28 am

Get well soon Mater.

Indolent
Indolent
December 8, 2021 9:29 am

It might be a fake, Indolent.

The person who originally posted it seemed to think it was genuine. Of course, that doesn’t make it so. Pretty close to the bone, either way.

Indolent
Indolent
December 8, 2021 9:29 am
rosie
rosie
December 8, 2021 9:32 am

Was there a claim in the article that the antibodies endured in babies but not their mothers?

Razey
Razey
December 8, 2021 9:34 am

duncanmsays:
December 8, 2021 at 9:21 am
rosiesays:
December 8, 2021 at 8:56 am
Correct calli.
I notice the anonymous story from the anonymous midwife at an anonymous large UK hospital that newborns were dying in unprecedented numbers from pulmonary haemorrhages has just disappeared.

Go check the weekly mortality statistics. There is no uptick in deaths < 1yr in the UK in 2021 compared with previous years. Its running at its usual average of about 50/week.

That statistic doesn’t capture miscarriages. That’s where the increase is.

The vax doesn’t work and is poisonous. People are fucking stupid and ignorant.

lotocoti
lotocoti
December 8, 2021 9:34 am

But they had a massive cultural blindspot …

Every submariner wants to put a couple of fish into a capital ship.
That’s not something unique to the Nipponese.

Wally Dali
Wally Dali
December 8, 2021 9:34 am

Downloading a facial recognition app? Is it DIY?
Get Groucho Marx glasses mo and nose, load it in as your face. Subvert the system whenever you can.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
December 8, 2021 9:34 am

Harvest in the Wimmera.
Just delivered a load of canola to a bunker site. It’s ten degrees with a cold wind blowing up your shorts.
A dew last night so the crops won’t harvest for hours yet, if it warms up.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
December 8, 2021 9:35 am

Was there a claim in the article that the antibodies endured in babies but not their mothers?

Hasn’t the issue long been that the vaccines lose efficacy in 12 months, needing boosters six months later? That would not be an issue if the antibodies remained since the vaccine is only supposed to dupe the body into creating antibodies. So the antibodies in the mother cannot be lasting.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 8, 2021 9:37 am

Child sex accused MP ensures two months of salary with brief late night appearance
By Hamish Hastie
Updated December 7, 2021 — 10.47pmfirst published at 2.55pm

The former Nationals upper house politician facing child sex abuse charges has made a brief late night appearance in parliament, ensuring he will continue to receive his salary and allowances until at least February.

South West MLC James Hayward was charged by WA Police on Thursday over allegations he sexually abused an eight-year-old girl.

He was suspended from the National party on Thursday after the allegations came to light and resigned from the party the next day, with WA Nationals leader Mia Davies then calling on him to resign from Parliament after describing his position as “untenable”.

As of Tuesday, West Australian Governor Kim Beazley, who must sign off on politician resignations, had not received any correspondence from Mr Hayward.

He has yet to make his intentions for his future as an MP public and has not entered any pleas regarding the five charges he is facing.

Mr Hayward faced being found guilty of contempt of parliament and would lose his position and entitlements if he did not appear in Parliament this week without an approved leave of absence after he missed all three sitting days last week.

However, after his brief appearance on Tuesday night before 8pm, he ensured he would not breach the six sitting day rule in the upper house’s standing orders.

With parliament set to break at the end of next week he will not be required to attend parliament until February, which will ensure he will receive his parliamentary salary and allowances over the Christmas and New Year period.

Mr Hayward is facing three counts of indecent dealings with a child under 13 years, one count of procuring a child under 13 to do an indecent act and one count of persistent sexual conduct with the allegations said to have taken place earlier in 2021.

Mater
December 8, 2021 9:37 am

You may be seething with anger, but the .Gov has broken you. There’s no going back, you will simply accept all their mandates, regardless of what they are.

Thanks for letting me know.

bespoke
bespoke
December 8, 2021 9:39 am

Matersays:
December 8, 2021 at 8:20 am
Some (clearly not all) thrive on being mounted on a white horse and saving the day. The stories (usually with them as the central hero) constantly abound, and not just during Covid either. After years of it, I just roll my eyes. It’s like clockwork.

This has been entrenched in the system for a long time. Can’t question authority because it may diminishing your own.

Cert worshiping.

mc
mc
December 8, 2021 9:45 am

This has been entrenched in the system for a long time. Can’t question authority because it may diminishing your own.

I have noticed this with “experts”. When someone considers them self an expert in one area, they seem to be more likely to accept and promote dictates from other experts. It is almost as if they are doing it so as they will be given the same deference when their turn comes. There is probably a good psychology study there.

In any case, rule by expert is proving to be quite over rated.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
December 8, 2021 9:46 am

My understanding is that jab providers are indemnified by scummo et al for when the jab maims or kills somebody.

Does the indemnification extend to death by PPE?

jupes
jupes
December 8, 2021 9:49 am

While I’m in whinging mode, check this out.

I didn’t take my Qantas flight home from the UK because I would have been required to self-isolate in a hotel room for two days, so I left early from continental Europe. For some stupid reason, I can’t cancel my UK flight via the internet and have to phone. I have to cancel it by tonight or I lose the credit (fare).

I was told wait times to talk to an operator was 30 min to 1 hour. 1 hour and 20 minutes later, the call got through and then immediately hung up! Now I am at the back of the queue and the wait time has increased to 1 – 2 hours (which probably means 3).

Fucking. Incompetent. Arseholes. Or are they doing it deliberately to rip me off?

rickw
rickw
December 8, 2021 9:50 am

Went and got my shot.
BTW, sick as a fucking dog.

Hope you get better quickly!

Slim Cognito
Slim Cognito
December 8, 2021 9:52 am

Airlines seem to be the only business who can take your money, not provide the service and then fail to refund you. How have we let them get away with this? Can you see any other business doing it?

Roger
Roger
December 8, 2021 9:54 am

While the Liberals are publicly divided on their religious freedom Bill Labor has made a pre-emptive strile for the Christian vote:

Staunch Catholic KKK “told FamilyVoice that the Labor leader, Anthony Albanese, had sought to reconnect with faith communities through a series of multi-faith roundtables discussing shared values including social services, aged care, care for the environment and reducing economic inequality.”

Labor reaches out to religious communities with faith and climate summit

Look for Bill Shorten to stage a photo op leaving church on Sunday morning.

Roger
Roger
December 8, 2021 9:56 am

Airlines seem to be the only business who can take your money, not provide the service and then fail to refund you. How have we let them get away with this? Can you see any other business doing it?

Governments at every level do so with impunity.

Aaron
Aaron
December 8, 2021 9:58 am
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 8, 2021 9:58 am

Oh gosh! Why we’re gripped by posh gossip
The writer of the BBC’s new period drama A Very British Scandal says aristos provide the best real life stories. Robbie Millen picks the juiciest
Robbie Millen
Tuesday December 07 2021, 12.01am GMT, The Times

We’ve all done it. Been to a country house weekend and, after lights out, wandered around the corridors looking for a loo. Then before you know it you’ve accidentally bonked your best friend’s wife or sucked a royal toe or played lay-the-draught-excluder with a helpful footman or a lusty maid. It just happens. It’s the easygoing aristocratic atmosphere of being in a stately home.

The latest person to recognise the British aristocracy’s reckless abandon in bedroom matters is Sarah Phelps, the screenwriter of A Very British Scandal, a new TV drama about Margaret Campbell, Duchess of Argyll. The duchess, who was inordinately fond of the company of “headless men”, scandalised the country in the Sixties. It’s quite right that her name lives again. Phelps said this of Britain’s posh classes to The Radio Times: “The basic problem is that they have way too much time on their hands and they are all about dynastic marriages and they get bored of each other and go to house parties where they always see the same people and they steadily work their way through each other’s husbands and wives, and they are bonkers and they make great copy.” She’s not wrong.

Friskiness is inevitable if you not only have time on your hands but the opportunity too. Think of all those rooms and gazebos which give you the privacy to toot the old hunting horn. Adrian Tinniswood in his entertaining book The Long Weekend reminds us that sex was the pastime of British country houses — “Bed-hopping was so common that servants took it for granted they could encounter guests in the middle of the night, padding along intent on some act of adultery or betrayal.”

Tinniswood tells the story of a cat burglar who in 1933 donned some pyjamas to break into Dalmeny House, the Earl of Rosebery’s mansion, during a house party. Unchallenged during his nocturnal prowling, he swiped a pearl necklace, a diamond brooch, two powder puff boxes and a couple of watches.

Pity poor old Clive Bell, the pug-faced art critic who knew a lot about oil paintings but could not be considered one. When he stayed at Garsington Manor — Ottoline Morrell’s Bloomsbury Set bonkpad in Oxfordshire — he used to make a point of getting up to go to the lavatory at night so other nocturnal strayers thought he was getting some action.

So in honour of Margaret, Duchess of Argyll, here are our favourite tales of posh bonking.

Most digusting sexual activities — Margaret Campbell, Duchess of Argyll
Some things are just so exotic, so inexplicable, so louche that they deserve a Continental sounding name — take bidet, duvet or fellatio. In the 1960s, Margaret Campbell introduced Britain to this strange, overseas practice. Polaroids of her being ever so friendly to a “headless man” (or was there more than one?) were the centrepiece of the Duke of Argyll’s divorce case. It was hard to argue with the evidence.

The photographs, said the judge who ruled in the duke’s favour, in their 1963 divorce case “not only establish that she was carrying on an adulterous association with those other men or man but revealed she was a highly sexed woman who had ceased to be satisfied with normal relations and had started to indulge in what I can only describe as disgusting sexual activities.” Quite right. But who was the headless man? Sigismund von Braun, German diplomat and brother of the V2 rocket inventor? Duncan Sandys, minister and son-in-law of Winston Churchill? Or Hollywood horndog Douglas Fairbanks Jr? Margaret for once kept her lips sealed, taking her secrets to the grave, maintaining the lustre of this scandal.

Most confusing sexual activities — the Bloomsbury set
As Dorothy Parker quipped, the Bloomsbury set “lived in squares, painted in circles and loved in triangles”. That’s not quite true: they loved in octagons. It is very confusing to remember who bonked who. Let’s give it a go . . .

Roger slept with Vanessa who married Clive who shared his wife with Duncan who slept with Bunny who had slept with Adrian, Vanessa and Virginia’s brother, who also slept with Duncan who had slept with Maynard who married a Russian ballerina. Bunny made advances on Vanessa, the mother of Angelica whom he married when she grew up, whose father was Clive (though she later found out it was Duncan who had slept with his cousin Lytton who had proposed to Virginia who slept with Vita who slept with Violet — or was it the other way around?). Dora adored Lytton who adored Ralph who adored Dora’s brother Noel but Ralph married Dora and then Frances — Bunny’s sister-in-law (from his first marriage) — and Burgo, son of Frances and Ralph, married Henrietta, daughter of Angelica and Bunny. Poor old Leonard had no fun at all. He published books and was married to Virginia who collected stones and wrote bitchy comments in her diaries.

Whatever. For sustained bedroom-hopping, the bearded poseurs of Bloomsbury win.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
December 8, 2021 10:01 am

Staunch Catholic KKK “told FamilyVoice that the Labor leader, Anthony Albanese, had sought to reconnect with faith communities through a series of multi-faith roundtables discussing shared values including social services, aged care, care for the environment and reducing economic inequality.”

Individual faiths do not see themselves as just one of many. They consider themselves the true one.

KKK, Albo, etc?

If anyone here is particularly close to God, could you point out KKK and Albo (and KRudd, and whoever else effects a faithful demeanour in politics) and remind God that people (and deities) are know by the company they keep.

Razey
Razey
December 8, 2021 10:01 am

Rogersays:
December 8, 2021 at 9:54 am
While the Liberals are publicly divided on their religious freedom Bill Labor has made a pre-emptive strile for the Christian vote:

Staunch Catholic KKK “told FamilyVoice that the Labor leader, Anthony Albanese, had sought to reconnect with faith communities through a series of multi-faith roundtables discussing shared values including social services, aged care, care for the environment and reducing economic inequality.”

Politicians really are scum aren’t they.

Roger
Roger
December 8, 2021 10:03 am

9News: ‘Parts of major Queensland cities could be under water within 80 years, modelling shows.’

Griffith University researcher Aysin Dedekorkut-Howes said “There are going to be places that are completely beyond unliveable.”

Clearly we need more funding for this crucial modelling.

Pogria
Pogria
December 8, 2021 10:03 am

Mother Lode,

I had thought of asking them about the risks, as per your suggestion. Even thought about suggesting they come out to the car park such as some of the scummier Doctors have been doing. Then thought, fuck it, let them deliver it. Instead of wasting an afternoon driving, sitting, waiting etc, I will casually stroll down to my front gate and collect said paperwork, sign it at my leisure sometime this evening, then tomorrow will casually stroll down to the front gate and leave said paperwork for collection.

Won’t have to brush hair, apply make up or dress neatly. May not even wear pants!

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 8, 2021 10:04 am

Mater says:
December 8, 2021 at 6:56 am
Went and got my shot.
BTW, sick as a fucking dog.

All the best, Mater.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 8, 2021 10:05 am

Small tip for Cats who use Tunnelbear VPN, which I do. The latest update 4.4.9 on Win 10 isn’t working properly – TB won’t start after the update is installed. Happened on both desktop yesterday and my laptop just now.

The workaround I’ve found is to login to your account on the TB website. When you do that you should see “Download” in the top right of the screen. Do that, then run the installer which you’ve just downloaded. That immediately does the 4.4.9.0 update again, but this time it works correctly.

Roger
Roger
December 8, 2021 10:09 am

…and remind God that people (and deities) are know by the company they keep.

Jesus discovered that.

So are Labor luminaries the unclean or the modern day Pharisees?

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 8, 2021 10:10 am

The last big posh political sex scandal — the Profumo affair
This scandal will never be beaten. An up-and-coming minister (and a member of the Bullingdon Club), a glorious estate (Lord Astor’s Cliveden), mews houses in the Swinging bits of west London, a Russian spy, sex with young women who worked in seedy clip joints, and, of course, galloping hypocrisy. It even has a catchphrase — “Well he would, wouldn’t he”, was Mandy Rice-Davies’s response in court when told that Lord Astor said he hadn’t had an affair with her. Rice-Davies was a brilliant phrase-maker, describing her three marriages as her “slow descent into respectability”. It would not have been such a stylish affair if Stephen Ward, “society osteopath” and procurer of young women for posh men, had been a podiatrist. “Society podiatrist”, hmmm?

The last posh political sex scandal — Alan Clark
Alan Clark is the last politician who has been threatened with a public horsewhipping by an angry husband. Clark, the libidinous Tory minister and walking swingometer, had had an affair with a family friend, Valerie Harkess, and also her two daughters — he referred to them as “the coven” in his diaries. When the women sold their story of rumpy-pumpy to the News of the World, Clark’s wife dismissed it with magnificent disdain — “Quite frankly, if you bed people that I call ‘below-stairs class’, they go to the papers, don’t they?”

It is a surprise that he wasn’t undone by sex. He wrote in his diaries in 1984: “Yesterday I travelled down by train, and a plump young lady came into my compartment at Waterloo . . . I gave her a huge grin, couldn’t help it. After a bit I moved over and sat beside her.” Later, he divulges more details about the knee-trembler. “Bonking on train? I honestly don’t think the public would mind. I don’t see how it could.”

twostix
twostix
December 8, 2021 10:11 am

How many babies died lived through their butchering and died on the table in Australian hospitals last year? What is the number? We know precisely how many ingrown toe-nails were removed in Australia.

How many aborted babies organs were sold to pharma companies to be used for research in the last six months?

You don’t know. Neither does anyone else except some compliance officer deep in the bowels of the state health depts where the official number is buried on page 46 of some barely related, euphemism ridden ‘report’. Because when the system doesn’t want to know it simply looks away. It’s had decades of practice at this. People trying to glean vaccine deaths from official stats are doing gods work, and will find bits and pieces like a jigsaw puzzle, but if people are looking for a smoking gun in one place – like a massive spike of dead babies on some official chart you’re going to have a hard time.

twostix
twostix
December 8, 2021 10:13 am

modelling shows

“soothsayer said”

“oracle foresaw”

“high priest divined”

“prophet prophesied”

Same energy.

lotocoti
lotocoti
December 8, 2021 10:16 am

Parts of major Queensland cities could be under water within 80 years, modelling shows.

Could is doing so much heavy lifting these days,
it probably deserves its own unique classification, parts of speech wise.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
December 8, 2021 10:19 am

Could is doing so much heavy lifting these days, …

scientists say
97% of scientists agree

Tom
Tom
December 8, 2021 10:21 am

9News: ‘Parts of major Queensland cities could be under water within 80 years, modelling shows.’

If you’re my vintage, you grew up trusting that journalists were hard-nosed, cynical arbiters of truth who thought politicians were wankers and could never ben trusted.

Nowadays, 90% of them are hysterical overgrown children who can’t wait to fall for the next passing fad.

Note: most journalists believe in nothing so of course they believe the “modelling”.

Delta A
Delta A
December 8, 2021 10:23 am

Mc Clown cereal:

Fruit loops?

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 8, 2021 10:23 am

First things first.
Kiddie fiddling is bad, mmm’kay.
Dont do it.
People who do do it should go to prison.

Gut this sort of thing gets up my goat*
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-12-08/olympic-swimmer-maddie-groves-says-she-was-sexually-abused/100669340
Groves said the abuse started when she was 13 and continued until she was 18.

She declined to identify the alleged perpetrator but said he still worked in swimming.

I haven’t made a complaint about this individual,” she told 7.30.

“I guess my experience from trying to make complaints about other people in sport was so discouraging, it really didn’t leave me feeling that making a complaint about this person would be any different to the others.

I don’t think I really want to report it to police. It’s obviously a huge process emotionally and it takes such a long time … and then it doesn’t necessarily end up working out that well.

So shes letting a known abuser of kids continue in a role where he has access/power over those kids.
The article is a prime example of mixing dogshit with ice-cream.
There is behavior which is 100% illegal, no-one will defend it in any way, then its expanded into “everything I dont like is the same”. Mysoggyknees is to blame.

*to quote an ex.

Barry
Barry
December 8, 2021 10:30 am

mc says:
December 8, 2021 at 9:45 am

This has been entrenched in the system for a long time. Can’t question authority because it may diminishing your own.

I have noticed this with “experts”. When someone considers them self an expert in one area, they seem to be more likely to accept and promote dictates from other experts.

Scientists, medicos etc. are definitely more credulous than the general population.

If they were to accept that others act with less than honourable intentions, then they would have to admit their own many deceptions.

Tom
Tom
December 8, 2021 10:32 am

Cummins wins the toss and decides to bat.

twostix
twostix
December 8, 2021 10:32 am

Phrenology was wide spread and had departments and universities and was used to lock people up in criminal trials.

Lasted a good while, smells the same:

The popularization of phrenology in the middle and working classes was due in part to the idea that scientific knowledge was important and an indication of sophistication and modernity.[31] Cheap and plentiful pamphlets, as well as the growing popularity of scientific lectures as entertainment, also helped spread phrenology to the masses. Combe created a system of philosophy of the human mind[32] that became popular with the masses because of its simplified principles and wide range of social applications that were in harmony with the liberal Victorian world view.[29] George Combe’s book On the Constitution of Man and its Relationship to External Objects sold over 200,000 copies through nine editions.[33] Combe also devoted a large portion of his book to reconciling religion and phrenology, which had long been a sticking point. Another reason for its popularity was that phrenology balanced between free will and determinism.[34] A person’s inherent faculties were clear, and no faculty was viewed as evil, though the abuse of a faculty was. Phrenology allowed for self-improvement and upward mobility, while providing fodder for attacks on aristocratic privilege.[34][35] Phrenology also had wide appeal because of its being a reformist philosophy not a radical one.[36] Phrenology was not limited to the common people, and both Queen Victoria and Prince Albert invited George Combe to read the heads of their children.[37]

It would seem this is the eternal struggle “Science!(tm)” vs religion.

Roger
Roger
December 8, 2021 10:33 am

Politicians really are scum aren’t they.

Absolutely mercenary in Labor’s case.

And because of that they’ve learned from Bill Shorten’s inept performance “in this space” in 2019, when surveys showed that in the course of the campaign he lost evangelical Christian voters who were primed to vote Labor.

But one wonders how many “roundtable” discussions Albo has had with coal miners…or are they to be sacrificed on the way to the sunlit uplands of 43% by 2030?

Tom
Tom
December 8, 2021 10:34 am

Woops. England wins the toss and decides to bat.

bespoke
bespoke
December 8, 2021 10:35 am

thefrollickingmolesays:
December 8, 2021 at 10:23 am

It’s a pattern. The MSN makes heroines out of the enablers of the likes of Epstein and Clinton.

P
P
December 8, 2021 10:35 am

Pearl Harbor at 80: How Courageous Chaplains Saved Lives
Poignant remembrances commemorate the somber anniversary.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 8, 2021 10:39 am

Groves said the abuse started when she was 13 and continued until she was 18.

She declined to identify the alleged perpetrator but said he still worked in swimming.

And:

I don’t think I really want to report it to police. It’s obviously a huge process emotionally and it takes such a long time

Oh geez. If only one could do this while one was having a coffee or a massage, and post it on one’s Insta story afterwards.

It’s all about you, Groves. Never mind the kiddies you’ve allowed to backstroke into a lifetime of trauma. As long as you’re not inconvenienced at any point.

Interviews with the ABC don’t count, right?

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 8, 2021 10:41 am

I have to download a facial recognition app to be allowed to go home to Perth.

That is just to check you are asleep.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 8, 2021 10:41 am

Phrenology lost one of its biggest supporters when Calvin Candie bit the dust.

Mater
December 8, 2021 10:41 am

You may be seething with anger, but the .Gov has broken you. There’s no going back, you will simply accept all their mandates, regardless of what they are.

Razey,
I don’t say this in anger or as payback for that comment, because you are, in fact, correct.

However, I’ll draw your attention to something that you may not have considered. When you talk about fleeing this shit-splattered toilet that is Victoria, you are actually talking about being similarly “broken”. The only people not broken are those that stay put, and ride through the vaccine economy restrictions.

The only difference between myself, and someone fleeing, is the response to being broken. That response is dictated by individual circumstances. Those circumstances can, and will, change between now and when any mandated booster is due.

Roger
Roger
December 8, 2021 10:42 am

England wins the toss and decides to bat.

In this weather I would have bowled.

The ghost of Nasser Hussein’s decision in 2002 still haunts them.

srr
srr
December 8, 2021 10:43 am

Winston Smith says:
December 8, 2021 at 7:31 am
Mater:

These people are insane. They advise against soft cheeses, cleaning out litter trays, drinking, smoking, etc, but they’ll inject pregnant women with shit that causes them heart disruptions? If it’s doing something to her heart, what’s it doing to the kid?

You’re right – that’s insane.
Hopefully.
If they are insane then there’s a reason for their malevolence.
But I don’t think they are insane.
They’re in some crazy inverted world where bad is good, evil is kindness, and common sense fled the arena.
How do they sleep at night?

Winston, you are far closer to the reality than any of us want to admit.

Remember this is brought to us by the same generationS (plural), and the same Medical, Political & Media Professionals that cheer & celebrate the “Right” to abortion up to full term birth & still fight for the “Right” to After Birth “abortion” and “Euthanasia” “for” their children.
Yet, even knowing this, people still choose not to believe the evidence of their works and delude themselves into believing that such people want to save lives.

I’m talking about people who were also here to hear this speech personally BEFORE still voting in Victoria’s most evil abortion laws –

One of the best Pro-life speeches EVER! Gianna Jessen abortion survivor Full video (15 minutes)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOWMmx6eBjU

As we were forewarned, people still choose to trust the word of such manifestly obvious servants of evil rather than put their trust in The Living Word –

Romans 1:
22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:

32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 8, 2021 10:45 am

Parts of major Queensland cities could be under water within 80 years, modelling shows.

Much of Holland is underwater, including the Schiphol airport in Amsterdam, but all those areas are weirdly dry. I wonder what their secret is?

Diogenes
Diogenes
December 8, 2021 10:46 am

Never mind the kiddies you’ve allowed to backstroke into a lifetime of trauma. As long as you’re not

If any of this happened in NSW then she should be charged with failing to report it.

lotocoti
lotocoti
December 8, 2021 10:50 am

Brisbane could become the next Gold Coast if a giant tsunami washes away Straddie.

Roger
Roger
December 8, 2021 10:51 am

Much of Holland is underwater, including the Schiphol airport in Amsterdam, but all those areas are weirdly dry. I wonder what their secret is?

They’ll need to commission a study to find out, including a personal trip by Anna to inspect the dykes.

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 8, 2021 10:54 am

When you talk about fleeing this shit-splattered toilet that is Victoria, you are actually talking about being similarly “broken”

Unbelievably, those people on the rant about ‘fuck youse all I’m going’ happen to be the very same people who were telling the boaties – when they were coming in their thousands – to piss off home and fix their own country.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
December 8, 2021 10:54 am

Just received another persons VVAXX cert in my email.
that makes 5

Razey
Razey
December 8, 2021 10:56 am

Matersays:
December 8, 2021 at 10:41 am
You may be seething with anger, but the .Gov has broken you. There’s no going back, you will simply accept all their mandates, regardless of what they are.

Razey,
I don’t say this in anger or as payback for that comment, because you are, in fact, correct.

However, I’ll draw your attention to something that you may not have considered. When you talk about fleeing this shit-splattered toilet that is Victoria, you are actually talking about being similarly “broken”. The only people not broken are those that stay put, and ride through the vaccine economy restrictions.

The only difference between myself, and someone fleeing, is the response to being broken. That response is dictated by individual circumstances. Those circumstances can, and will, change between now and when any mandated booster is due.

I agree that they would have broke me if I can flee the country, preferably unmolested.

At this stage it won’t be until they mandate the clot shot to attend school high schools.

I would take the clot shot ONLY to leave the country permanently. That would be a sort of pyrrhic victory for me.

RacerX
RacerX
December 8, 2021 10:57 am

“After just listening to a nurse (and doctor) tell me how exceedingly rare heart issues are with this shot.”

I looked on the Queensland health site yesterday (before my first shot) suggests heart issues in the males 50-59 age group run to 0.5 per 100,000. There must be around 1m Aussie men in that age group jabbed, which should mean we’ve had 5 cases. How then do I personally know two, both were hospitalised …

I am lost for words at the corruption and deceipt now facing our country, led by politicians, public servants and the media.

Yes, I surrendered & got my first jab yesterday, coerced so I can participate in society by a tyrannical fascist piece of shite government.

Mater
December 8, 2021 10:57 am

Just received another persons VVAXX cert in my email.
that makes 5

You can use one for every day of the working week.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 8, 2021 10:57 am

Scientists, medicos etc. are definitely more credulous than the general population.

As a scientist my instinctive response when somebody says something sciency is to go and check. And especially check the original data, sans corrections and the various stuff they do to it these days.

If the data says what they say, great. I’ll watch out for whatever it is, and maybe decide on a cost-benefit analysis on whatever they’re proposing (comparative NPVs are your friend).

If the data says the proposal is rubbish, then nothing they say is going to make it not-rubbish, at least not until more data comes in.

So far what I am seeing is that global warming is rubbish, socialism is rubbish, and most Covid actions are rubbish, especially lockdowns and masks. And the data on Covid vaccines is actually quite scary. But then so is riding a bicycle, which I did this morning, so there’s that.

Argument from authority (argumentum ab auctoritate) is still a classic fallacy. Anyone who is hiding data, or is twisting it into a pretzel, is not to be believed no matter how many letters they have after their name.

twostix
twostix
December 8, 2021 11:02 am

You don’t need to be vaccinated to leave Australia.

lotocoti
lotocoti
December 8, 2021 11:03 am

Just received another persons VVAXX cert in my email.
that makes 5

Could you *cough* market them as NFTs? *cough*
Asking for a thrusting entrepreneur in the new vaxx economy.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 8, 2021 11:04 am

Incidentally dumbing-down seems a deliberate policy of the Left these days. Which is another reason why the striking teachers in NSW don’t deserve a pay rise.

US Scientists Slam K12 De-emphasis on Mathematics (7 Dec)

We write to express our alarm over recent trends in K-12 mathematics education in the United States. All of us have first-hand experience of the role that clear mathematical thinking has played in advancing information technology and American economic competitiveness. We all also share the urgent concern that the benefits of a robust mathematical education …

If the public aren’t equipped to work out that the government is lying to them then they don’t have much choice but believe the party line.

jupes
jupes
December 8, 2021 11:05 am

Parts of major Queensland cities could be under water within 80 years, modelling shows.

Can’t understand why Channel 9 didn’t go to Tim Flannery for comment.

Mater
December 8, 2021 11:08 am

I looked on the Queensland health site yesterday (before my first shot) suggests heart issues in the males 50-59 age group run to 0.5 per 100,000. There must be around 1m Aussie men in that age group jabbed, which should mean we’ve had 5 cases. How then do I personally know two, both were hospitalised …

I’ve personally spoke to an Emergency Healthcare Professional* who said that in decades of experience, they’d never personally seen a case of Myocarditis. It’s now a constant stream, especially in the young.

Something is missing in this picture.

*Bonafides beyond question

Razey
Razey
December 8, 2021 11:10 am

twostixsays:
December 8, 2021 at 11:02 am
You don’t need to be vaccinated to leave Australia.

For now. But if Labor get in, they might close the loophole. Also, would need to check the carrier.

But as it stands, Japan is not too interested if your ‘vax’d’, simply because they know its not effective and just require a test 72 hours before + a small bit of quarantine.

Lysander
Lysander
December 8, 2021 11:19 am

England two down already! 3rd over?

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
December 8, 2021 11:20 am

BoN
The Barry Marshall story sounded interesting so I read up on him.
A fascinating and clever guy.
One interesting snippet from his musings – I realized that at least 50 percent of patients were undiagnosable.
Of course he hadn’t heard about PCR tests and the infallibility of Chief Health Officers when he said that!

rickw
rickw
December 8, 2021 11:26 am

Just received another persons VVAXX cert in my email.
that makes 5

Don’t be greedy, share!

cohenite
December 8, 2021 11:29 am

The latest person to recognise the British aristocracy’s reckless abandon in bedroom matters is Sarah Phelps, the screenwriter of A Very British Scandal, a new TV drama about Margaret Campbell, Duchess of Argyll. The duchess, who was inordinately fond of the company of “headless men”,

WTF are headless men?

lotocoti
lotocoti
December 8, 2021 11:29 am

Sweet baby cheeses.
They’ve now anthropomorphised sandstorms and droughts.

calli
calli
December 8, 2021 11:31 am

jupes says:
December 8, 2021 at 9:49 am

Jupes, phone their main number (131313) and request a call-back. DO NOT GO ON HOLD.

From someone the bastards kept kept on hold for over five hours.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 8, 2021 11:31 am

Haha, Starc bowled Burns with the first ball of the series.

Let’s see: a first ball duck is a golden, so a first ball of an innings duck would be platinum, a first ball of a whole Test would then be a diamond duck. So what would be a first ball duck of an Ashes Test series then? I’d guess a plutonium duck. Burns has been nuked.

Roger
Roger
December 8, 2021 11:32 am

Yep…should have bowled, Joe.

rickw
rickw
December 8, 2021 11:37 am

Something is missing in this picture.

Courage and Truth.

If you are watching them blithely preside over this disaster, impervious to reason, fact and morality, what’s next?

Fight now!

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 8, 2021 11:39 am

WTF are headless men?

Reading the article it appears when a man and a lady love each other very much she gets on her knees and kisses his willy.
When a 3rd person also loves both of them very much they take a picture of the lady kissing willie while chopping off the head/shoulders of the chap having organ played because hes focused at about waist height.

TL/DR: Porno shot with the chaps heads not in the pic.

Chris
Chris
December 8, 2021 11:39 am

Fight now!

I suppose we shall have to fight them with beer bottles, because that’s all we’ve bloody got.

rickw
rickw
December 8, 2021 11:40 am

Update:

Little bloke back at school.
Missus still crook.
Just went for my last isolation test.
Colchester 3000L recovered from turret sensor conniption. 🙂

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
December 8, 2021 11:41 am

twostix says:
December 8, 2021 at 11:02 am
You don’t need to be vaccinated to leave Australia.

You do if you are flying Qantas.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 8, 2021 11:42 am

WTF are headless men?

Margaret Campbell, Duchess of Argyle, was photographed preforming fellatio on a man whose head did not appear in the photograph. There was some speculation as to his identity, particularly (1) The photograph was taken by a Polaroid camera, if which there were two in all England. (2) The Duke of Argyle listed over eighty of his wife’s lovers, when he filed for divorce.

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