Open Thread – Weekend 11 Dec 2021


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Baba
Baba
December 12, 2021 11:30 am

Get vaccinated and be protected.

Get vaccinated and protect those around you.

Yes, the vaccinated may, in rare instances, become infected, but they won’t become seriously ill and won’t transmit the disease.

The vaccinated can become infected and infectious but will experience a much reduced risk of serious illness and death.

A booster shot after six months further reduces the risk of infection, serious illness and death.

The vaccinated who become infected with Omicron and receive a booster shot will likely have more protection from severe disease.

Pfizer can develop a vaccine that Omicron by March 2022.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
December 12, 2021 11:32 am

An Ol’ West phrase for today.
Dead men catch no Covid.

lotocoti
lotocoti
December 12, 2021 11:33 am

Browsing Ladbrokes:
Brandon is 9/4 to leave office in 1st term via Impeachment, Resignation or 25th Amendment;
1/3 to serve full 1st term.
New dad Johnson 10/1 to get bumped this year; evens next year.
No Scummo market.

Baba
Baba
December 12, 2021 11:35 am

The South African Omicron outbreak in graphs.

https://mobile.twitter.com/pieterstreicher

Delta A
Delta A
December 12, 2021 11:36 am

Psays:
December 12, 2021 at 10:34 am

An excellent article. Thanks for posting it, P.

miltonf
miltonf
December 12, 2021 11:37 am

It’s hard to escape the conclusion that, by legalising shoplifting, tolerating squalid homeless encampments and declining to prosecute antfiltha activities, the US establishment wants social and economic collapse.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
December 12, 2021 11:43 am

Shyte memories amongst the peasants lets the health nasties get away with this shit.

HD
HD
December 12, 2021 11:44 am

One opinion out there is: Omicron is actually an old variant.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 12, 2021 11:46 am

Mr Ed

nominate Brandon, … and return to some sort of coherent Government.
No Brainer, really.

I think that you mean that you have no brains? Creepy Joe = “coherent government”. ROFLMAO!

JC
JC
December 12, 2021 11:47 am

dover0beach says:
December 12, 2021 at 11:31 am

Funny thing about the boosters is that, just like after the first and second jabs, you are worse off for about a month.

Oh yea, how is anyone worse off for about a month?

baba

That chart, if it can be believed (nothing should be taken at face value from social media such as a chart, ) then omni appears to be fairly contagious. Maybe there are so few deaths because it actually is a weaker variant and or the average age in South Africa is relatively youthful.

Tom
Tom
December 12, 2021 11:51 am

I hope anti-government protestors at today’s rally in Melbourne save some of their venom for the Andrews regime biggest supporters, journalists. Today’s headline at the Herald Sun website:

Protesters to cause weekend CBD chaos again
“Freedom” protesters have been urged to bring children to their latest rally, which is set to wreak chaos around Melbourne CBD.

Of course, there are no details of the “chaos” journalists hope to see. They just want to make the point that they loathe the people of Victoria as modern journalists just love governments that try to crush the common folk.

lotocoti
lotocoti
December 12, 2021 11:55 am

the US establishment wants social and economic collapse.

I prefer to believe human nature hasn’t been factored into their New Utopia modelling.
See Heavens Above (1963) for details.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
December 12, 2021 11:57 am

Just watched the sinking of the Turpitz on Timeline History. How many important battles and ultimately wars have been won by pure luck on on side due to incompetence on the other. To hear those old fellas both the English and German, it was like yesterday to them. The ones left, both English and German meet together having become friends over a shared moment albeit from a differing perspective.

miltonf
miltonf
December 12, 2021 11:58 am

They just want to make the point that they loathe the people of Victoria as modern journalists just love governments that try to crush the common folk.

As the Murdochs obviously do.

GreyRanga
GreyRanga
December 12, 2021 11:59 am

Boambee Johnsays:
December 12, 2021 at 11:46 am
Mr Ed

Now there was horse that knew something. This one not so much.

Diogenes
Diogenes
December 12, 2021 12:00 pm

herefore how are booster shot bullshit?

We have been gaslit and lied to since the beginning so I take claims from either side with a massive grain of salt. ?We basically knew everything we needed to know about COVID within 3 months (cf Diamond Princess).

?The FDA is claiming the reason they can’t release the Pfizer submissions because is it is nearly 500k pages- so they managed to actually review that amount of paperwork in 108 days(TGA & ATAGI in even fewer), puhlease, pull the other one it plays jingle bells.

My point is, if they had waited the 6 months , between 1st & second shot would we need boosters? And the decision to go early with the second shot could not possibly have been based on any ‘science’ because of the timeline from the introduction of the Fizzer and that decision being made. It was a political trade-off, nothing more, nothing less the result of a fearful population going “mummy Anna, daddy Dan, Uncle Scott – please saaaaaaave us”.

Given the greater proportion of deaths in Europe, why are vax numbers so poor that they actually have to make it compulsory* in light of even more restrictions on the unclean than we have?

And isn’t it amazing how the ‘science’ is different coming out of WHo, each country**, and even out of each state***, and between the Doherty Institute, the Carol Burnett Institute and whatever Professor can get their ugly face on the box?

*And I mean black letter L-A-W law, not anything like our ‘mandates’

**Aus recommends against AZ for people under 50 – UK – roll up one and all for your AZ .
Most of Scandinavia has banned the Fizzer & Moderna for people under 50 – Australia – bring out your 5 year olds !

Rest of world – “lets go cruising”(Singapore NOV 2020 ) , Australia – nah nah – no cruising until March 2022 at the very earliest(fuck you Greg Hunt- I am old enough and ugly enough to make my own risk assessment!)

*** I don’t want any Queenslander aged under 50 getting the AZ

Your turn, explain to me, why I should believe anything to do with COVID coming out of the mouth of any Australian politician or Doctatorship, or “experts”.

miltonf
miltonf
December 12, 2021 12:01 pm

I’m being to conclude that the whole purpose of leftism/environmentalism is to ensure ordinary people don’t live in nice houses, drive their own cars and don’t fly on planes. Bogans shouldn’t have nice things in other words. Explains why the saxe-coburg tampons are so into it.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 12, 2021 12:03 pm

The best thing about 12Cs was in the days before mobile phones handing them to a lawyer in meetings and watch them for a minute or so till they gave up and handed it back. Ah the good old days …

Diogenes
Diogenes
December 12, 2021 12:04 pm

Pricks should being dying from omicron now, unless it has a very different course from the othe strains.

You forget it has been detected in wastewater samples in Europe taken well before those identified infections.

Nelson_Kidd-Players
Nelson_Kidd-Players
December 12, 2021 12:04 pm

Welsh-born preacher has a message of encouragement for these times and delivers a swipe towards our leaders on the way through. Here.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
December 12, 2021 12:13 pm

Diogenessays:
December 12, 2021 at 12:00 pm

Wot Dodgy knees said.
AND everybody I know who has had the AZ jab spends a week in bed for each jab.
One of these jabees reckons if they were in anything but perfect health prior to the jab, it would have killed them.

But, of course, they are ALL rare and unusual cases.

Baba
Baba
December 12, 2021 12:14 pm

South African hospital Covid deaths by week. Includes patients admitted for other reasons (because Omicron is so widespread, infectious and relatively mild it is very common in RSA hospitals).

https://www.nicd.ac.za/diseases-a-z-index/disease-index-covid-19/surveillance-reports/daily-hospital-surveillance-datcov-report/

Scroll down past green block, past graphs, go to page 2.

Zipster
December 12, 2021 12:17 pm

Fauci / NIAID Signed Private And Confidential Vaccine Agreement Weeks Before We Even Knew About The Pandemic

so the reason they targeted the S1 spike protein is because they helped to put it there in the first place

interesting question, who was playing who here

Pedro the Loafer
Pedro the Loafer
December 12, 2021 12:19 pm

The crop is in the bin, the machinery has all been cleaned, serviced and put away in the sheds.

Just a couple of field bins to be returned and a few bits of fencing I managed to knock over to be repaired and it is all over pending the Boss’s cheque in the bank. Despite a late start due to unseasonal rain and a few days of total fire ban with no harvest machinery allowed to operate, it all went pretty well, and looking like a 15 year record yield.

Been a tiring few weeks with long hours, dusty and hot days and occasionally difficulty in staying awake and concentrating, but a lot of satisfaction in seeing the daily progress.

Our raw and amateur team did pretty well but only achieved about half the output that a professional team could do, but we cost half of what a contractor would charge.

I got a bit of a dirty look when I presented the tractor and bin log book to the Boss, apparently I ran too many hours and used too much fuel compared to his usual chasers. Oh well.

Gentle hangover this morning from a long and late night “end of harvest” BBQ and pissup and I am ashamed to admit that both the 17.y.o header driver and the young gel truckie outlasted me in the guzzling stakes.

Glad it all over for this year and hopefully Sneakers will open the borders to allow the usual gangs of ag workers and back packers to shoulder the load.

Back to my primary role in life; loafing.

Razey
Razey
December 12, 2021 12:21 pm

Tomsays:
December 12, 2021 at 11:51 am
I hope anti-government protestors at today’s rally in Melbourne save some of their venom for the Andrews regime biggest supporters, journalists. Today’s headline at the Herald Sun website:

Protesters to cause weekend CBD chaos again
“Freedom” protesters have been urged to bring children to their latest rally, which is set to wreak chaos around Melbourne CBD.

Of course, there are no details of the “chaos” journalists hope to see. They just want to make the point that they loathe the people of Victoria as modern journalists just love governments that try to crush the common folk.

The ‘media’ and ‘.gov’ are the enemies of the people.

Tom
Tom
December 12, 2021 12:22 pm

As the Murdochs obviously do.

Miltonf, the past two years have merely turned the clock back 60-70 years so that we’re now controlled again by big business and its lackeys in politics. That requires Big Media like News Corp to abandon their populist business model of responding to and campaigning for their readership’s concerns.

The new pro-government Australian tabloid press looks like something out of the 1950s where newspaper readers are treated like mushrooms – kept in the dark and fed on bullshit.

cohenite
December 12, 2021 12:24 pm
Roger
Roger
December 12, 2021 12:25 pm

I’m being to conclude that the whole purpose of leftism/environmentalism is to ensure ordinary people don’t live in nice houses, drive their own cars and don’t fly on planes. Bogans shouldn’t have nice things in other words. Explains why the saxe-coburg tampons are so into it.

I mentioned last night that Prince Will’s family Christmas card features a snap of the five of them on hols in sunny & exotic Jordan this year.

No doubt the emissions incurred were “offset” in the biggest scam since Brother Tetzel hawked indulgences to thanatophobic German peasants in the 16th C..

Most Brits won’t dare cross an internal border for fear of getting stuck in lockdown as Christmas approaches.

The apple doesn’t fall far from the rotten tree.

calli
calli
December 12, 2021 12:25 pm

For Pedro. Four hundred and ten years of harvests later.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
December 12, 2021 12:30 pm

In the style of Clint Eastwood:
“Well tell me punk are you a rare and unusual case?”
“Well are you feeling lucky? Are you punk?”

Tom
Tom
December 12, 2021 12:30 pm

Our raw and amateur team did pretty well but only achieved about half the output that a professional team could do, but we cost half of what a contractor would charge.

I got a bit of a dirty look when I presented the tractor and bin log book to the Boss, apparently I ran too many hours and used too much fuel compared to his usual chasers. Oh well.

Well done, Pedro! Boss Cocky obviously didn’t major in maths.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
December 12, 2021 12:30 pm

I got a bit of a dirty look when I presented the tractor and bin log book to the Boss, apparently I ran too many hours and used too much fuel compared to his usual chasers. Oh well.

Scottish bloodline?

Razey
Razey
December 12, 2021 12:34 pm
miltonf
miltonf
December 12, 2021 12:34 pm

Interesting take Tom- the HUN probably used to be the least bad paper for many years. Similarly with the Tele in Sydney.

Mak Siccar
Mak Siccar
December 12, 2021 12:35 pm

H B Bear says:
December 12, 2021 at 12:03 pm
The best thing about 12Cs was in the days before mobile phones handing them to a lawyer in meetings and watch them for a minute or so till they gave up and handed it back. Ah the good old days …

I still use my HP 11c extensively for all my engineering calculations which are numerous. I have an e version of such on my iPad. Wouldn’t be without it.

miltonf
miltonf
December 12, 2021 12:36 pm

Roger, I saw that picture that your we referring too. Grotesque.

The apple doesn’t fall far from the rotten tree.

That’s for sure. I’ve had enough of those people.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
December 12, 2021 12:37 pm

Did anyone turn up today to hurl abuse at the Hunchback?

rosie
rosie
December 12, 2021 12:39 pm

I don’t know anyone that noticed a massive deterioration.
And the stated reason for the ‘no effective dose’ is because it takes time for the body to create the antibodies against the virus.
That seems logical to me.

Top Ender
Top Ender
December 12, 2021 12:39 pm
P
P
December 12, 2021 12:48 pm

Neil Oliver Says Enough is Enough – The U.K. Elite Created COVID Propaganda and Fear While they Danced and Partied at Christmas
December 11, 2021 | Sundance

This Neil Oliver monologue hits on many key aspects to the propaganda around COVID. As Oliver notes, while the elites were selling fear as a tool for their control over the proles, those same elites were partying, dancing and gathering last Christmas.

Eyrie
Eyrie
December 12, 2021 12:49 pm

It’s fun handing an RPN calculator to those who haven’t heard of them.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 12, 2021 12:52 pm

I got a bit of a dirty look when I presented the tractor and bin log book to the Boss, apparently I ran too many hours and used too much fuel compared to his usual chasers. Oh well.

Anyone who can do better is welcome to try..

Eyrie
Eyrie
December 12, 2021 12:54 pm

baba, you forgot the sarc tag on your post.

Dragnet
Dragnet
December 12, 2021 12:59 pm

I’ve come into the Sydney CBD to join the protest. I have done a sweep of King St / Hyde Park can see no hide or hair of a march.

rosie
rosie
December 12, 2021 1:02 pm

More suspectible to what, getting covid?
I don’t see any evidence to support getting any of the current vaccinations available makes you more likely to catch covid in the next couple of weeks.
You would be in exactly the same state you were before you were vaccinated.
If what you say is correct then we should have seen an increase in people getting covid once the Victorian lockdowns ended, instead the reproduction rate remains steady at around 1.

sfw
sfw
December 12, 2021 1:07 pm

Yesterday I met a bloke who said he went to secondary school in Wangaratta with Andrews. Stated that Andrews was a narcissistic bully who did everything he could to get his own way and if he didn’t he would sulk and never forget it and try to get back at those who managed to beat him.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
December 12, 2021 1:10 pm

Farmer Gezsays:
December 12, 2021 at 11:32 am
An Ol’ West phrase for today.
Dead men catch no Covid.

Farmer Gez was thinking exactly that as I was prepping my pasta sauce this morning, and vaccinated dead men, don’t catch COVID so there’s a claim for the success of the vaccine.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 12, 2021 1:12 pm

Never stand between a pollie and a bucket of money.

Australian government to regulate crypto market (Sky News, 12 Dec)

Betcha it gets banned eventually, since in essence it is not controllable by government. Which was the whole idea.

Roger
Roger
December 12, 2021 1:20 pm

Yesterday I met a bloke who said he went to secondary school in Wangaratta with Andrews. Stated that Andrews was a narcissistic bully who did everything he could to get his own way and if he didn’t he would sulk and never forget it and try to get back at those who managed to beat him.

Fate marked him early for a successful political career.

calli
calli
December 12, 2021 1:21 pm

Neil Oliver’s argument is compelling.

Like him, I wondered if there was something our governments weren’t telling us, something that, while justifying the draconian rules and regulations surrounding Covid, was too hot to tell the wider community.

No. Not at all. As more is being revealed those who were in a position to know weren’t fearful, not even cautious, at all. Everything we saw was for the cameras, for public consumption…from masks, to double masks and hand sanitiser and tracing and distancing and business closures and lockdowns.

Like Oliver, for a moment, I was afraid. But you can’t be afraid forever unless you like being afraid or fear pays some other kind of dividend.

Will the penny finally drop? I think it will.

Crossie
Crossie
December 12, 2021 1:25 pm

incoherent rambler says:
December 12, 2021 at 10:36 am
Come and get us!
I would be happy with an US invasion and occupation.
US imposed martial law for a few years and then adopting the Texas constitution.

With the Biden admin we would not get to be Texas but either California or New York.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 12, 2021 1:26 pm

Just watched the sinking of the Tirpitz on Timeline History. How many important battles and ultimately wars have been won by pure luck on on side due to incompetence on the other.

Ranga – I was reading this last night, it was amusing:

on the 25th [Aug 1942], marine flyers from Henderson Field, found a transport group, escorted by a cruiser and four destroyers, approaching along the strait between Florida and Santa Isabel Island to the north-west of it. They damaged this group and turned it back also while Flying Fortresses, coming up later, sank a destroyer which was standing by a transport going down from the marine attack. (The [Japanese] destroyer’s captain was greatly disgusted. When he was picked up later from a raft he said, “I suppose even a B-17 has to hit something sometime, but why did it have to be me?”)

😀 Sometimes you can get lucky like a B-17, or unlucky like this guy and his ship.

Volume V – South–West Pacific Area – First Year: Kokoda to Wau (AWM, see ch 5 p 153)

Arky
December 12, 2021 1:26 pm

Will the penny finally drop? I think it will.

..
In time for the ramping up of the global warming hysteria.
They’ve effectively burnt at least three years worth of resistance to the measures they want to implement and taken us three years closer to the end of new ICEs.
They have also normalised the sort of behaviour they want to make normal, social controls, limits on travel and personal freedoms.

srr
srr
December 12, 2021 1:30 pm

Diogenes says:
December 12, 2021 at 12:00 pm

Your turn, explain to me, why I should believe anything to do with COVID coming out of the mouth of any Australian politician or Doctatorship, or “experts”.

That’s simple; he’s been happily, proudly, boastfully invested in the companies making the shit that Global Govts are forcing everyone (including pregnant women, 5 year old children & soon babies), to take ‘against’ Covid, every 6, 5, 3 months for forever … oh sorry, that’s why you shouldn’t believe a word he & other investors in those companies have to say about the evil concoctions.

Nelson_Kidd-Players
Nelson_Kidd-Players
December 12, 2021 1:31 pm

srr says:
December 11, 2021 at 10:54 pm

Where I grew up in Australia the corner Milkbar was called The Dairy as it was also the shop front of the dairy stables where the milk was delivered in bulk to be loaded onto the horse drawn milk carts.

It was a magical time for a horse loving kid.

The milk horses where my sister lived in Malvern also amazed me as their stables were up the street around the corner from where the carts were housed, so after being unharnessed they’d just take themselves home.

Well I was going to share a video of Melbourne’s cart horses but seems the PETA Mobsters have successfully purged the internet of such images that they can’t used for crying, ‘animal abuse!’; soulless cretins.

I’m just old enough to have lived through that time. Daily delivery of milk via autonomous self-driving vehicles. So primitive! 🙂 Had to beat the birds to the bottles as they had learnt of the glorious cream residing just below the tin-foil cap.

Razey
Razey
December 12, 2021 1:33 pm

Arkysays:
December 12, 2021 at 1:26 pm
Will the penny finally drop? I think it will.

..
In time for the ramping up of the global warming hysteria.
They’ve effectively burnt at least three years worth of resistance to the measures they want to implement and taken us three years closer to the end of new ICEs.
They have also normalised the sort of behaviour they want to make normal, social controls, limits on travel and personal freedoms.

Buy Lithium stocks. I have done well with GLN so far. I also think copper stocks as well. Just because I don’t believe in this climate nonsense, doesn’t mean I shouldn’t be making money off it.

Just imagine all the power cabling upgrades that will be needed in every suburb on the planet. Has to be a nice angle to cash in on that too.

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 12, 2021 1:33 pm

Paul Joseph Watson, Russell Brand and now Neil Oliver.
They all appear to be Gay Spooks selling a Narrative, to me.

Roger
Roger
December 12, 2021 1:34 pm

But you can’t be afraid forever unless you like being afraid or fear pays some other kind of dividend.

I wonder if the fear of covid, which is a fear of death – a sort of cultural thanatophobia which the politicians are exploiting – is a result of the loss of the fear (and love) of God.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
December 12, 2021 1:35 pm

sfw says:
December 12, 2021 at 1:07 pm
Yesterday I met a bloke who said he went to secondary school in Wangaratta with Andrews.

Talked to a bloke whose mate went to Mannix the same years as Andrews.
Never sited him and nobody in their get togethers a can really remember him being there.
He’s one weird prick.

calli
calli
December 12, 2021 1:36 pm

Thanks Cat farmers for all the news from the land. Pedro’s post reminded me of the days when the Harvest Festival was celebrated at my old church in Sydney.

My young eyes would feast on the haybales and stooks of grain and bags of produce in the apse, plus the vast pyramids of tinned and bottled goods collected to go off to the needy.

Our little voices would warble “Bringing in the Sheaves” and “All Things Bright and Beautiful”, while the choir would busy themselves with the more mature hymns and anthems.

Another season of the church calendar, with anticipation of the next.

Sadly, no pageant again here this Christmas. No camels, goats, ponies, donkeys and the odd sheep or two for the little ones to wonder at. No tinsel topped angels or real Baby “Jesus” (regardless of boy or girl – any newborn would do) sitting in Mum’s lap.

And no Wise Men.

Which could be a metaphor for our country.

Razey
Razey
December 12, 2021 1:36 pm

armer Gezsays:
December 12, 2021 at 1:35 pm
sfw says:
December 12, 2021 at 1:07 pm
Yesterday I met a bloke who said he went to secondary school in Wangaratta with Andrews.

Talked to a bloke whose mate went to Mannix the same years as Andrews.
Never sited him and nobody in their get togethers a can really remember him being there.
He’s one weird prick.

The hunchback is a deranged pedo.

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 12, 2021 1:38 pm

Just imagine all the power cabling upgrades that will be needed in every suburb on the planet. Has to be a nice angle to cash in on that too.

For sure.
SimsMetal website only shows $6.75/kilo for bright Copper, but I’ve heard of blokes getting $11.00.
It all goes thru Sims anyway, so someone wants Copper bad.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
December 12, 2021 1:39 pm

Sited – sighted.
My English she is broke.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
December 12, 2021 1:42 pm

Someone on the media should do a psychological analysis of Andrews.
It would drive him crazy because deep down he knows he’s not normal.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
December 12, 2021 1:43 pm

As 2021 draws to a conclusion, I would like to nominate rosie as the bestest vvaxx brochure reader, for 2021 !

Arky
December 12, 2021 1:43 pm

Hydrogen exploration?
Geologists opinions please.

After eight years of an experimental phase, Hydroma Inc., the precursor of natural hydrogen in Mali, is moving up a gear. The natural hydrogen wells operated by this company will now be used to produce clean electricity on a large scale to meet the energy needs of Mali and even other countries on the African continent.

The ingenious and innovative energy adventure that the people of Bourakébougou have been enjoying since 2012 will soon bring happiness to others across Mali and even the African continent. In this small village located about 60 kilometres north-west of the capital Bamako, natural hydrogen sources are being exploited for the production of electricity. This energy is then distributed free of charge to the local population by the Malian company Hydroma Inc.
..

And…

Let’s go targeting natural hydrogen
The quest for sustainable energy supply at low environmental and economical cost is a major driver in the current context of the energy transition toward a low carbon society. Hydrogen (H2) is a carbon-free fuel par excellence because its oxidation (i.e. combustion, fuel cells) emits only water. However, to this point, H2 has only been regarded as an energy vector and not as a credible large-scale alternative to hydrocarbons since most production methods (e.g. methane steam reforming) currently in use only postpone CO2 emissions. Its massive production through water hydrolysis using renewable energy is also very challenging, as it requires both pure water resources and local storage infrastructures.
The discoveries of hundreds of natural H2 seepages, generally connected with circulation of hydrothermal fluids through ultramafic rocks [1-3], both under the seafloors and on the continents, remove these obstacles but raise important questions regarding the energy potential that these sources can represent [4] (Fig. 1). In addition, recent observations of intra-cratonic seepages and accumulations with no obvious genetic link to ultramafic formations challenges current understanding of H2 production and fate in the crust [5-7]. The natural production of hydrogen is a recent area of scientific research, but little is known about H2 generation, migration, consumption and potential accumulation. To date, there is neither exploration strategy nor any resource assessment, as practical guidelines for hydrogen targeting are lacking. It now appears necessary to study how H2 migrates and becomes trapped in the Earth’s crust in order to reasonably assess the recovery potential of this primary natural production.
* Corresponding author: [email protected]
© The Authors, published by EDP Sciences. This is an open access article distributed under the terms of the Creative Common

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 12, 2021 1:45 pm

Never sited him and nobody in their get togethers a can really remember him being there.
He’s one weird prick.

Similar was said about Obama.
Yeah, they remembered him from H.S. in Hawaii, but he’s listed as having hadda glorious career at Columbia Law School after that.
Yet no one can remember ever seeing Obama at Columbia.

Simplest explanation?
Obama is a Spook from Spook School, so is Andrews.

Roger
Roger
December 12, 2021 1:47 pm

Someone on the media should do a psychological analysis of Andrews.

Not before removing the logs from their own eyes.

Brislurker
Brislurker
December 12, 2021 1:47 pm

Old Ozzie
So glad the newish treatment is working for you. Maybe living in the mountains has helped too ?

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
December 12, 2021 1:48 pm

Never sited him and nobody in their get togethers a can really remember him being there.

Of course.
That was before he became a zombie.

Arky
December 12, 2021 1:49 pm

Talked to a bloke whose mate went to Mannix the same years as Andrews.
Never sited him

..
Suggestions as to where to site Andrews invited.
I’ll start: Inside the backend of a hippopotamus.

Razey
Razey
December 12, 2021 1:51 pm

Ed Casesays:
December 12, 2021 at 1:38 pm
Just imagine all the power cabling upgrades that will be needed in every suburb on the planet. Has to be a nice angle to cash in on that too.

For sure.
SimsMetal website only shows $6.75/kilo for bright Copper, but I’ve heard of blokes getting $11.00.
It all goes thru Sims anyway, so someone wants Copper bad.

I have a piece of 22kV cable I took as a ‘souvenir’ on a project I worked on. Should go weight it!

Roger
Roger
December 12, 2021 1:51 pm

Andrews will pass.

But you’ll still have the media that failed to hold him to account.

That’s actually the bigger problem.

Baba
Baba
December 12, 2021 1:52 pm

If what you say is correct then we should have seen an increase in people getting covid once the Victorian lockdowns ended, instead the reproduction rate remains steady at around 1.

If the vaccination rate didn’t change much, why would R be expected to change?

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
December 12, 2021 1:53 pm

Roger Johnson is right!
With the aid of laxatives, Andrews will pass.

The media is unflushable.

calli
calli
December 12, 2021 1:55 pm

Morrison has left us in no doubt.

We are all “sheep” to be got through a gate, by hook or by crook.

Which makes sense – jabbed by a criminal.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 12, 2021 1:55 pm

Arky – Interesting stuff:

The discoveries of hundreds of natural H2 seepages, generally connected with circulation of hydrothermal fluids through ultramafic rocks

Ultramafic rocks are very reducing and host a lot of the nickel sulfide ores in WA. Nickel is also a good catalyst metal, with an affinity for hydrogen. So it sounds plausible that circulating hot groundwater through an ultramafic deposit, without ingress of oxygen, might see hydrogen gas produced. When I say plausible I haven’t encountered it before, so my comment isn’t to be relied upon without considerably more research.

On the other hand there’s plenty of methane floating around. All those methane hydrate deposits in the Gulf of Mexico for example are hydrogen for want of a little bit of steam reforming. So I can’t see the hydrogen price being too far beyond the gas price, and the gas price right now is artificially levitated by green politicking.

Razey
Razey
December 12, 2021 1:56 pm

Babasays:
December 12, 2021 at 1:52 pm
If what you say is correct then we should have seen an increase in people getting covid once the Victorian lockdowns ended, instead the reproduction rate remains steady at around 1.

If the vaccination rate didn’t change much, why would R be expected to change?

It is all a complete scam. The PCR test is complete BS and is purely being used to pad the numbers.

The only thing that should be measured is hospitalisations.

Blind Freddy can see the elites are going to full One World Tyranny.

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 12, 2021 1:59 pm

Andrews will pass.

How?
Clearly he never attended Mannix.
So, where was he and why did Monash University award him a Degree?

calli
calli
December 12, 2021 1:59 pm

Any news on Cassie? Has she surfaced yet?

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
December 12, 2021 2:01 pm

You can be certain that the young ladies never took much interest in Drooper Dan and not rich enough to be “cute”.

Dragnet
Dragnet
December 12, 2021 2:01 pm

My mishtake re the Sydney protest. I was at the wrong end of town !
I hot-footed it from Martin Pl to Prince Alfred Park to catch the gathering.
A lot were already leaving, there was a fire and brimstone proselytiser in full rant but he was followed by a recently “ex” NSW Police Sgt Steve Kelly who gave quite a reasonable and cogent summary of the last 2 years “debacle” (to put it charitably).
There were probably only 10,000 there at its peak/max but given the lack of publicity that’s not all bad.
Obviously MSM will try to say there were only hundreds there on their evening bulletins.

Razey
Razey
December 12, 2021 2:06 pm

Farmer Gezsays:
December 12, 2021 at 2:01 pm
You can be certain that the young ladies never took much interest in Drooper Dan and not rich enough to be “cute”.

He wasn’t interested in the girls. Why do you think his ears are shaped like that? The Hunchback enjoys receiving.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
December 12, 2021 2:08 pm

Paul Joseph Watson, Russell Brand and now Neil Oliver.
They all appear to be Gay Spooks selling a Narrative, to me.

You’ve been into the irradiated Gypsum again, haven’t you Grigory?

You’re glowing. And not in a healthy, radiant or particularly attractive way…

Fat Tony
Fat Tony
December 12, 2021 2:12 pm

incoherent rambler says:
December 12, 2021 at 1:43 pm
As 2021 draws to a conclusion, I would like to nominate rosie as the bestest vvaxx brochure reader, for 2021 !

incoherent rambler Johnson is right.

rosie-the-troll – can we please have your acceptance speech?

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
December 12, 2021 2:17 pm

Fat Tony Johnson

Please step forward to present the award.

Roger
Roger
December 12, 2021 2:18 pm

Clearly he never attended Mannix.

Clearly, eh?

calli
calli
December 12, 2021 2:20 pm

You should be grateful to rosie for giving all of you grist to grind out counter arguments on a daily basis.

Today she gave Dover the opportunity to link to a study/report/research on diminished protection immediately post vax.

Pooh-head and other affronteries just don’t cut it.

Fat Tony
Fat Tony
December 12, 2021 2:20 pm

incoherent rambler says:
December 12, 2021 at 2:17 pm
Fat Tony Johnson

Please step forward to present the award.

Which award? There are 2 – a pineapple & an angry looking echidna…

Razey
Razey
December 12, 2021 2:20 pm

Rogersays:
December 12, 2021 at 2:18 pm
Clearly he never attended Mannix.

Clearly, eh?

LOL. Anything can be photo shopped these days.

Tom
Tom
December 12, 2021 2:21 pm

Well spotted, Roger at 2.18pm.

calli
calli
December 12, 2021 2:23 pm

Lol, Roger.

A closer look reveals not just the smugging but something sinister…what did he do to poor Payvand Vahdat?

I’m thinking an attempted atomic wedgie.

Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
December 12, 2021 2:26 pm

CORONAVIRUS
Virgin students blame Covid pandemic for lack of sex
Emily Dugan, Social Affairs Correspondent
Sunday December 12 2021, 12.01am GMT, The Sunday Times

Many rites of passage were taken away by the pandemic: graduation ceremonies, freshers’ week and parties. But for some students, the biggest worry is what they haven’t lost: their virginity.

Counsellors say people in their late teens and twenties are coming to them anxious that Covid has kept them celibate.

Those aged 18-24 reported the biggest decline in sex in the first year of the pandemic, according to Professor Kirstin Mitchell, of Glasgow University. She is an investigator on the National Survey of Sexual Attitudes and Lifestyles Covid study and said: “We found that after one year of the pandemic, people reported fewer partners, fewer new partners and less frequent sex. This was especially the case for young people.”

The study’s findings have yet to be published but Mitchell said the trends were already clear. “In any given year, there are a cohort of young people who would have started having sex in that year,” she said.

“When you’re in midlife, one year can look much like the next. But when you’re a young person, each year brings key developmental experiences. And so there is that cohort of young people for whom that period of sexual development and gaining new sexual experiences is a lost year, and what effect that will have in the longer term we just don’t know.”

Message boards on the Student Room, an online forum, are peppered with people despairing at the pandemic’s role in their sex life. One 22-year-old man wrote: “There is no hope for me. This pandemic destroyed my social life and college experience. Covid has destroyed in-person socialisation permanently.”

Another wrote: “I have just graduated and am unemployed living at home.
I am 24 and still a virgin and haven’t started dating. I missed the opportunity whilst at university. Now I have graduated I am alone at home with not many connections to anyone and nobody wants to be social due to the pandemic. How do I meet women in this situation knowing I am already behind in life?”

Jo Coker, a psychosexual therapist with the College of Sexual and Relationship Therapists, said: “Covid has had, in many ways, a devastating influence for young people because for a good period of time, they were pretty much locked up. Some feel that they’ve lost out on social experiences that may have led them to the partner that they might have wanted to lose their virginity to. A lot of them feel robbed.”

Cate Campbell, a sex therapist, said that the stigma attached to delaying sex was causing some to panic about the impact of the pandemic. “I’ve had men in particular saying, ‘I’ve lost two years and by the time I’m on track, I’ll be in my twenties and it’s too late,’ and they feel a lot of shame about that,” she said.

Campbell said the anxiety around sexual experience was exacerbated by a lack of social contact. “Their social lives have been cut off at the knees. So there’s not been much opportunity to develop and you do need to keep your confidence going. You do need to be interacting socially with other people to feel it’s OK and to not feel like you’re a weirdo.”

Even before the pandemic, more young people were leaving sex until later than their parents’ generation. One in eight millennials had not had sex until the age of 26, compared with one in 20 in their parents’ generation, according to official data published in 2018.

The figures come from the Next Steps project, which tracked 16,000 young people born in 1989-90 from the age of 14 and is managed by University College London.

The trend has in part been attributed to a fear of intimacy as porn and social media proliferate unrealistic body images.

DrBeauGan
DrBeauGan
December 12, 2021 2:26 pm

Like him, I wondered if there was something our governments weren’t telling us, something that, while justifying the draconian rules and regulations surrounding Covid, was too hot to tell the wider community.

I conjectured that it was a dress rehearsal for a really deadly virus, maybe a bioweapon. That Western gummints had agreed to pretend that WuFlu was the new Black Death, so they could test their systems for coping with the real thing. Obviously, they couldn’t tell ppl it was a practice or nobody would have reacted properly, but there would be those in the know.

I gave up on this hypothesis after a few weeks. Too many things left unexplained. So I moved on to the theory that bureaucrats wanted to control us and were terrifying ppl to deliver us from evil at the price of our freedom.

This currently looks the most credible explanation for the behaviour of the political class.

calli
calli
December 12, 2021 2:27 pm

Or maybe just simple, close proximity. The boy on the other side looks perfectly happy.

Then again, he might have put something unmentionable in Dan’s locker and be doing a preliminary gloat.

Roger
Roger
December 12, 2021 2:27 pm

A closer look reveals not just the smugging but something sinister…what did he do to poor Payvand Vahdat?

LOL. You must be good at those “insert a caption” competitions, calli.

Timothy Neilson
Timothy Neilson
December 12, 2021 2:28 pm

Yeah, they remembered him from H.S. in Hawaii, but he’s listed as having hadda glorious career at Columbia Law School after that.

Really?
Actually Columbia for his first degree, where no-one remembers him either, then Harvard Law School after that, where he got onto the Harvard Law Review Board and was then made Editor, and was given a good class degree.

Roger
Roger
December 12, 2021 2:29 pm

Anything can be photo shopped these days.

The moon landing was faked.

Discuss.

Me…I’m off for a nap.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
December 12, 2021 2:32 pm

Arky was thinking as part of a gas deposit till Bruce mentioned mafics. All the reports I could find were in French, which I have studied since I was 14yo.

Nice, some reading for a Sunday arvo…

Fat Tony
Fat Tony
December 12, 2021 2:32 pm

DrBeauGan says:
December 12, 2021 at 2:26 pm
Like him, I wondered if there was something our governments weren’t telling us, something that, while justifying the draconian rules and regulations surrounding Covid, was too hot to tell the wider community.

I conjectured that it was a dress rehearsal for a really deadly virus, maybe a bioweapon.

What if the “vaccine” is the bio-weapon??
They are/will be insisting that everybody gets it – right down to 6 month old babies…

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
December 12, 2021 2:33 pm

Roger says:
December 12, 2021 at 2:27 pm
A closer look reveals not just the smugging but something sinister…what did he do to poor Payvand Vahdat?

A quick google search shows Payvand went a lawyering and did well.

Razey
Razey
December 12, 2021 2:38 pm

Rogersays:
December 12, 2021 at 2:29 pm
Anything can be photo shopped these days.

The moon landing was faked.

Discuss.

Me…I’m off for a nap.

LOL. Ok Boomer, what ever you say. Go get your booster, dummy.

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 12, 2021 2:39 pm

Actually Columbia for his first degree, where no-one remembers him either,

That’s right, no one who was actually there at the time Obama allegedly was could place him there.
Weird, eh?

then Harvard Law School after that, where he got onto the Harvard Law Review Board and was then made Editor, and was given a good class degree.

Could anyone recall him attending classes at Harvard?
Anyway, he got degrees from the most exclusive Law Schools in America and went to work as a “Community Organiser” in Chicago on Sixpence a week.
Whatta humanitarian, eh?

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
December 12, 2021 2:39 pm

CORONAVIRUS
Virgin students blame Covid pandemic for lack of sex
Emily Dugan, Social Affairs Correspondent
Sunday December 12 2021, 12.01am GMT, The Sunday Times

+++New Coronavirus Variant Detected+++

+++Category: [Incel]+++

+++Proposed Solution: More Lockdowns+++

The leftwits seed their own cultural destruction. Nobody can defeat the Nookie Monster.

No. One…

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
December 12, 2021 2:40 pm

Hey Grigory!

Fuck off!

It’s a lovely Sunday outside in most parts of Australia right now, so why not load up on the Dubbin and Leather Conditioner and take Mummy outside?

You can both get a tan…

Razey
Razey
December 12, 2021 2:41 pm

CORONAVIRUS
Virgin students blame Covid pandemic for lack of sex
Emily Dugan, Social Affairs Correspondent
Sunday December 12 2021, 12.01am GMT, The Sunday Times

+++New Coronavirus Variant Detected+++

+++Category: [Incel]+++

+++Proposed Solution: More Lockdowns+++

The leftwits seed their own cultural destruction. Nobody can defeat the Nookie Monster.

No. One…

Good. Last thing we need is leftwing fuckwits breeding.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
December 12, 2021 2:42 pm

Nobody can defeat the Nookie Monster.

No. One…

Not even those allegedly genocidal [Yet woefully incompetent if the actual numbers are anything to go by]debbil-debbil Globalists SRR is so scared of.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
December 12, 2021 2:43 pm

Good. Last thing we need is leftwing fuckwits breeding.

You’re Glowing again…

Razey
Razey
December 12, 2021 2:43 pm

Why don’t climate change Nazis do the world a favor and abort themselves. After all, it would be great for the planet.

Razey
Razey
December 12, 2021 2:45 pm

Rex Angersays:
December 12, 2021 at 2:43 pm
Good. Last thing we need is leftwing fuckwits breeding.

You’re Glowing again…

Outing yourself hey? LOL.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
December 12, 2021 2:46 pm

You’re Glowing again…

And that’s completely aside from the fact you missed my point, Razey.

People gonna procreate. And all the lockdowns and restrictions and puritanical rules and prohibitions of our new ‘masters’ and the sexual frustrations provoked tend to lead to explosive cultural backlashes…

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
December 12, 2021 2:46 pm

Outing yourself hey? LOL.

Silly glowie…

Razey
Razey
December 12, 2021 2:48 pm

Rex Angersays:
December 12, 2021 at 2:46 pm
You’re Glowing again…

And that’s completely aside from the fact you missed my point, Razey.

People gonna procreate. And all the lockdowns and restrictions and puritanical rules and prohibitions of our new ‘masters’ and the sexual frustrations provoked tend to lead to explosive cultural backlashes…

Yawn.

Time for my nap.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
December 12, 2021 2:50 pm

Yawn.

Time for my nap.

Try not to uptick your own posts, Glowie.

It stands out more than you do…

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 12, 2021 3:10 pm

Mike Nesmith of the Monkees died yesterday.
Only the guy with the sideburns is left now.

rickw
rickw
December 12, 2021 3:15 pm

With the Biden admin we would not get to be Texas but either California or New York.

So status quo plus guns, sounds good!

Dot
Dot
December 12, 2021 3:18 pm

The trend has in part been attributed to a fear of intimacy as porn and social media proliferate unrealistic body images.

Not how disgustingly obese women are now? Not the absurd consent laws we have now? Not anything to do with family courts destroying men?

No, it is a “fear of intimacy”.

This is how academics bullshit:

1. Wildly speculate in “discussion” section of research article.
2. Quote each other, accept speculation as an accepted and proven theory.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
December 12, 2021 3:18 pm

Mike Nesmith of the Monkees died yesterday.
Only the guy with the sideburns is left now.

They all had sideburns, you mong.

Try Micky Dolenz.

Carpe Jugulum
Carpe Jugulum
December 12, 2021 3:19 pm

Pedro’s post reminded me of the days when the Harvest Festival was celebrated at my old church in Sydney.

I remember a palm sunday at St Albans church in a small place called Muswellbrook in the hunter valley, all the young children would lay palm leaves on the path exiting the church. Even today it still seems profound.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
December 12, 2021 3:21 pm

accept speculation as an accepted and proven theory.

Adding in that said speculation incorporates whatever happens to flatter their egos and ideologies the most…

Dot
Dot
December 12, 2021 3:23 pm

Rex

What if Isha and the God Emperor of Mankind banged?

What if Nagash swore loyalty to Tzeench and went back in time, killed his brother, stole his wife took over in a (nearly) bloodless coup?

What if the Grand Theogonist realised Nurgle is good at best and a true chaotic neutral at worst?

Chris
Chris
December 12, 2021 3:23 pm

With the Biden admin we would not get to be Texas but either California or New York.

So status quo plus guns, sounds good!

Yeah, great. 10% of population in a protected criminal class, who can have guns freely. The rest of us get nothing except to pay the bill for politicians’ brain-farts.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
December 12, 2021 3:25 pm

Okey doc. Just had a comment memory holed, didn’t pass go was straight to sin bin. Wonder what triggered that. Only 2 links and geology based. Spaminator didn’t like something.

Oh well will get back to it later on. Enjoy Gaudete Sunday everyone.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
December 12, 2021 3:27 pm

Dotsays: December 12, 2021 at 3:18 pm

The aforementioned author has taken groundbreaking steps in establish the dot doctrine as unassailable fact.
Only ignorant fools educated in the last century would attempt to discredit Dot’s well proven assertions in this matter.
We eagerly await the release of dot’s text book and promotion by the ABC.

Chris
Chris
December 12, 2021 3:30 pm

I gave up on this hypothesis after a few weeks. Too many things left unexplained. So I moved on to the theory that ….

This currently looks the most credible explanation for the behaviour of the political class.

Nice work Beaugy. Look at the evidence and move on.
Most of our scientific, political and media class missed step 1, and just shouted ‘Science!!1!’

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
December 12, 2021 3:30 pm

Carpe, was bought up in a strict Catholic family. Remember same in Sydney in 1980’s.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
December 12, 2021 3:34 pm

Although a little 2 dimensional, in 2022 we may see 3 dots replace 4 corners.

Dot
Dot
December 12, 2021 3:36 pm

Might have said this before Rex.

The only truly evil god in Warhammer is actually Slaanesh. I am assuming Mal’al doesn’t actually exist.

The Horned Rat is more of a creation of chaos; Nagash became evil and became a god before Isha and Asuryan ran away to the next dimension to suffer grimdark…we know it’s true, he also did everything he did, he did it for her. He’s the Kevin Costner of Warhammer.

Khaine is khool. The Druchii are just like Trekkies. They take fandom too far.
Khorne has honour.
Nurgle is just your uncle making homebrew. He genuinely loves his devotees.
Tzeench doesn’t have an endpoint or plan, he is just the lord of fuckery. Is he unhappy about the Imperial College or Tower of Saphery?
The Lady of the Lake is actually Isha.

Slaanesh enjoys the suffering of others, particularly that which the strong or competent impose on the weak or vulnerable…and he is pro struggle snuggle.

Makka
Makka
December 12, 2021 3:43 pm

#Omicron – Is this the end of the pandemic?

No restrictions will be needed to protect hospitals in any way in any country.

Gauteng, South Africa has peaked with case levels similar to Delta, but with deaths expected to be 25 times lower.

https://twitter.com/pieterstreicher/status/1469743320092102659

Chris
Chris
December 12, 2021 3:44 pm

Hydrogen exploration?
Geologists opinions please.

Its not out of the question that hydrogen is being produced naturally in some locations.
It is not likely that its large scale or that reservoirs are there to be tapped. Hydrogen is just too slippery a customer to be trapped for geological scale periods.

Frank
Frank
December 12, 2021 3:44 pm

So I moved on to the theory that bureaucrats wanted to control us and were terrifying ppl to deliver us from evil at the price of our freedom.

I am tending towards the bureaucracy being frustrated drama queens that need to be engaged in something heroic to counter the crushing blandness of their usual activity; shuffling requisition forms. But safely mind, hence all the regulation ensures that the pain is felt by proxy.

Dot
Dot
December 12, 2021 3:51 pm

Omicron might be old, don’t forget too that COVID has been found in wastewater samples in Spain dated back to early 2019.

This could have been endemic globally for a year before anyone realised.

Which would make a he vaccines an absolute joke.

Ed Case
Ed Case
December 12, 2021 3:52 pm

I am tending towards the bureaucracy being frustrated drama queens that need to be engaged in something heroic to counter the crushing blandness of their usual activity;

Sorry, but that just doesn’t cut it.
As the Head of German Intelligence later said of 9/11:

Something like this was 20 years in the planning.

calli
calli
December 12, 2021 3:52 pm

Dot says:
December 12, 2021 at 3:36 pm

By Grabthar’s Hammer!

Whoops! Wrong movie.

rickw
rickw
December 12, 2021 3:53 pm

Quote of the protest by on lady WRT Dan:

“Where have all the assassins gone?!”

Indolent
Indolent
December 12, 2021 3:55 pm

ure, but some of the greatest names in science and politics right here at this very blog – thought leaders even- were critical of the vaccines because immunity apparently doesn’t last as long we’d hoped. If that’s the case then wouldn’t boosters be required sooner than what’s expected? Therefore how are booster shot bullshit?

Because the “vaccines” don’t work?

calli
calli
December 12, 2021 3:56 pm

Omicron might be old,

Saw that theory. Might explain the 20/80 infection rate if it’s been doing the rounds and great wodges of the population already have immunity.

rickw
rickw
December 12, 2021 3:57 pm

Omicron might be old, don’t forget too that COVID has been found in wastewater samples in Spain dated back to early 2019.

This could have been endemic globally for a year before anyone realised.

I reckon I might have had it on a business trip to Ireland in late 2019. Was pretty crook.

incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
December 12, 2021 4:01 pm

“Where have all the assassins gone?!”

Oh. Mike! Ron!

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
December 12, 2021 4:11 pm
Fat Tony
Fat Tony
December 12, 2021 4:20 pm

Security Legislation Amendment (Critical Infrastructure) Bill 2021

Apparently just passed – does anyone know what’s in it for us (or the CCP?Cabal government)?

MatrixTransform
December 12, 2021 4:22 pm

where to site Andrews

crash test dummy

cohenite
December 12, 2021 4:25 pm

Fat Tonysays:
December 12, 2021 at 4:20 pm
Security Legislation Amendment (Critical Infrastructure) Bill 2021

Apparently just passed – does anyone know what’s in it for us (or the CCP?Cabal government)?

There was a recent chunk cyber attack on some QLD coal power plants. This act addresses such issues. Timely, eh.

JC
JC
December 12, 2021 4:35 pm

dover0beach says:
December 12, 2021 at 12:27 pm

Oh yea, how is anyone worse off for about a month?

Same reason you are in the first month immediately after first jab; your immune system takes a massive hit before improving. That is why these agencies, etc. shift the recently jabbed into the unvaxxed category, to hide the initial deterioration.

I’m sorry, but I don’t find this credible. Present the evidence to back up the claim and I’m not talking about Chauncey Garderner who owns a website and is a rogue doc from some shithole . I would like to see a uniform opinion that this vax behaves so differently from other vaxes in the way you assert.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
December 12, 2021 4:35 pm

Arky, Malian H2 trap is real, gas trapped in more porous sedimentary strata with a dolerite cap over the top. The area does have Archean Mafics so would support Bruces post above as a possible source. I did have a link but it keeps getting cancelled by the spaminator. Am unsure of how accurate the resource estimate is but a lot of those companies working on the drilling and geology are decades old in oil/gas. They would likely be somewhat reliable. The resource estimate seems very large at face value but that isn’t unusual and usually done to attract investment or a take over bid. IMO here investment.

There is no large scale production wells that I can see and given the skewed nature of news on so called renewables I’d exercise a higher due diligence before taking the plunge. Mali also is very unstable, a land locked sub Saharan country, coup there last year. French Government prop the place up. That said obviously H2 is one area where UN & said subsidy mining firms are concentrating a lot of effort, just to find the right project.

John H.
John H.
December 12, 2021 4:40 pm

rosiesays:
December 12, 2021 at 1:02 pm
More suspectible to what, getting covid?
I don’t see any evidence to support getting any of the current vaccinations available makes you more likely to catch covid in the next couple of weeks.
You would be in exactly the same state you were before you were vaccinated.
If what you say is correct then we should have seen an increase in people getting covid once the Victorian lockdowns ended, instead the reproduction rate remains steady at around 1.

Rosie it has been known since 1981 that transient declines in some immune cells occurs after flue vaccination so the issue is not unique to this vaccine. What I don’t know is whether this fall represents a shift in immune resource allocation that also occurs when infection occurs, although I suspect it does if that infection involves the adaptive immune response. I’m not worried about this fall post vaccination. It has probably been happening to gazillions of people when they get vaccines. That is certainly true of the flu vaccine. A transient fall is neither here nor there. Even my yearly blood tests show changes in neutrophils and lymphocyte counts without clear evidence of infection. If the decline from the vaccine is that serious we should be seeing increases in all types of infections not just COVID.

PS. I checked. A number of infections have been found to reduce lymphocyte counts.

Nothing to see here. Move on. Have a nice day.

Bar Beach Swimmer
December 12, 2021 4:45 pm

cohenite,
The other day I went down to Trinity Point for a burger. I couldn’t find a takeaway there, just a couple of restaurants with no takeaway service.

In other news, I went to the Newcastle march today. The coppers estimated the crowd as 7000. A more lovely and respectful group of people you couldn’t hope to meet.

Bar Beach Swimmer
December 12, 2021 4:47 pm

Meant to say that one of the speakers reported that approx., 50 people per week are presenting with chest pains at Wyong Hospital.

srr
srr
December 12, 2021 4:56 pm

Nelson_Kidd-Players says:
December 12, 2021 at 1:31 pm
[…]
I’m just old enough to have lived through that time. Daily delivery of milk via autonomous self-driving vehicles. So primitive! ?

And unlike trying to programme electronic driving aides today, just a click or a whoa and the horse knew which houses to go past or wait as orders changed.

My old brumby was so good I could call him up at the paddock, get a bit of hay band around him for the ‘tying up’ at whichever destination I asked him to take me, by name, i.e. a friends place, the oval, the shops etc. and just kick back.

Give a kid a horse to play with & it’s amazing what they can teach them by accident when there isn’t an expert around to tell then it can’t be done 🙂

Arky
December 12, 2021 4:56 pm

Rockdoctor says:
December 12, 2021 at 4:35 pm
Arky, Malian H2 trap is real

..
Something to watch for, I think.
If you add exploring for the stuff to converting gas and using H2 as storage for excess wind and solar, plus the fact that you can run ICEs off H2, or use in fuel cells, plus maybe one day convert your classic V8 to run off it, well, it screws EVs, eh?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 12, 2021 4:56 pm

I would like to mention that SEN radio in Mongyang used to be a very passable sports network.

This afternoon for two hours or more it was two dickheads, of which one (I think) was marketed as some old bloke in a pub, singing 80s songs at each other in between checking the miniscule amounts of texts in.

I believe there may have been a racing flavour to it, as the most interesting bit was fifteen minutes discussing teaser ponies.

Dear SEN. You used to be cool. Now – just fuck off.

cohenite
December 12, 2021 4:57 pm

The other day I went down to Trinity Point for a burger. I couldn’t find a takeaway there, just a couple of restaurants with no takeaway service.

There’s only one restaurant; it’s a big one, great service and food. At the height of the chunk virus closedowns they were closed but were offering take-a-way. That’s now ended and its gone back to the usual restaurant service. Do yourself a favour, make a booking and enjoy a top meal. Reasonably priced too.

rosie
rosie
December 12, 2021 4:58 pm

Exactly Dover it’s been at least six weeks since lockdown in Victoria ended and the covid reproduction rate remains steady at around 1. Infection rates are very stable.
And there is zero reliable evidence that hospitals are being ‘overwhelmed by vax injuries’ .
Hospital wait time statistics are published regularly and available to the hoi polloi.
Seems to me some people are so desperate to be right about the decision they took, they are clutching at everything published, no matter how ludicrous, like claims about dangerously low white blood cell counts and microscopic razors.
And Duncanm pointed out the other day neonatal death rates in the UK have been stable throughout 2020 and 2021.
In the meantime the very real political issues around passports and mandates are being completely overshadowed because too many people on the freedom side are pursuing, in many cases, arrant nonsense.
There has been so much utter rubbish about the wicked evil vaxx I now discount about all of it. I don’t deny some people have had bad reactions and a number have died. Just sorry nothing like the effort put in to opposing vaccines has never been expended on opposing abortion or the contraceptive pill by all these wonderful doctors and Nobel prize winners.
And why despite their lack of public profile I much prefer ldp over the uap.
Not to mention with approaching 95% of the adult population being vaxxed going on about death jabs isn’t going to win friends and influence people to take your political side.

Arky
December 12, 2021 5:00 pm

Imagine how pissed off the likes of Greta would be if you could pump hydrogen out of the ground and let billions of people have the lifestyles these Marxist shits want to end for everyone but themselves.

Rabz
December 12, 2021 5:01 pm

The elder Hitchens, expounding – some excerpts:

“I would have done terrible things to my opponents, because oddly I thought I was right … ”

“Morality is what you do when you think nobody is looking.”

“Politicians can push people into doing things they don’t want to do …”

Why collectivists think they are better

Rabz
December 12, 2021 5:02 pm

let billions of people have the lifestyles these Marxist shits want to end for everyone but themselves

They really don’t try to hide it, do they?

rosie
rosie
December 12, 2021 5:07 pm

Is your short response John H there is no evidence to support any of the covid vaccines cause people to be extremely susceptible to infection for a two three weeks period afterwards?
This seems to be a variation on the vaccines kill your white blood cells.
Looks like as each anti vaxx argument is repudiated, a shiny new one pops up to take it’s place.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
December 12, 2021 5:08 pm

@ Dot-

I don’t know much about Nagash, the Ruinous powers or any of that stuff the pointy-ears get into.

So long as I have slab, a charged and fully functional lasgun and nobody has defaced my Uplifting Primer, I am a cheerful Anger… 😉

Rabz
December 12, 2021 5:12 pm

Philosophy time, peoples.

Everything I have self righteously whinged about for the last decade is inexcusable.

Being born in the most fortunate time in human history will do that to you.

The biggest problem at the moment is trying to find all those pairs of Gazelles for a photo which I’ll then send off to my friends while listening to Miss Ellie at top note – unashamed gloatage.

While trying to work out where my brand new pair of Cherry Reds are. 😕

John H.
John H.
December 12, 2021 5:13 pm

rosiesays:
December 12, 2021 at 5:07 pm
Is your short response John H there is no evidence to support any of the covid vaccines cause people to be extremely susceptible to infection for a two three weeks period afterwards?
This seems to be a variation on the vaccines kill your white blood cells.
Looks like as each anti vaxx argument is repudiated, a shiny new one pops up to take it’s place.

Rosie I was rightly criticized here for being too technical but this and other examples here demonstrate the exact opposite is more dangerous: being simple is dumb and dangerous. Too many people are not bothering to learn immunology but feel free to interpret findings from one of the most complex areas in biomedicine. So I’m done with most of the discussion but on this occasion the claims are so sophomoric I could not restrain myself.

cohenite
December 12, 2021 5:15 pm

Some fuckwit on 2HD arguing it’ll be good for the libs and the country to vote them out and vote the liars in because that will force the libs to get back to their roots instead of being liar lite. I find this argument moronic. No doubt there are liars and greens in the libs but you work to get those bastards out not throw the whole thing under a bus and let the liars and the filth in to wreck the joint. Just look at biden: in 11 months the creep has fucked the US and the world. That would happen in Australia if the liars got in. The power would be off and 50000 muzzies would be sailing from indonesia. I’ve had my say so can’t get back on so why don’t one of the smarties here get on and refute the drongo’s view. I suspect he’s a liar plant anyway.

cohenite
December 12, 2021 5:17 pm

Rosie I was rightly criticized here for being too technical

Ignore them; they’re jealous. Be as technical as you want.

Rabz
December 12, 2021 5:19 pm

So long as I have a slab

AKA Betty’s worry

Plasmamortar
Plasmamortar
December 12, 2021 5:22 pm

plus the fact that you can run ICEs off H2, or use in fuel cells, plus maybe one day convert your classic V8 to run off it, well, it screws EVs, eh?

I believe Hyundai already developed a hydrogen vehicle a few years ago?

Also, I heard about a prototype test done with a rotary engine for hydrogen.
Apparently the rotary converts quite easily to run on hydrogen.

calli
calli
December 12, 2021 5:23 pm

Now this is the sort of to-ing and fro-ing I like! More please.

Do I explode if I agree (partially) with everyone?

Plasmamortar
Plasmamortar
December 12, 2021 5:23 pm
rosie
rosie
December 12, 2021 5:25 pm

Magnetic! Graphine oxide! Razors! White blood cells! Cancer!
oh noes the vaccine kills your red blood cells too!

Rabz
December 12, 2021 5:25 pm

The true National Anthem, belted out in backyards on January 26 across the Nation:

I will squeeze the life out of you …

We may never meet again, so shed your skin and let’s get started

And you will … … 🙂

rosie
rosie
December 12, 2021 5:25 pm

Thank you John.
Please keep posting.

Winston Smith
December 12, 2021 5:26 pm

Woolfe:

Anyone else reading Pandemia by Alex Berenson?
Highly recommended

Give us the guts of it, Woolfie.

rosie
rosie
December 12, 2021 5:31 pm

No I’m not even remotely suspicious Dover.
I think ‘no effective dose’ is a perfectly logical explanation when apparently the vaccine is supposed to get your body to create antibodies that enhance your own capacity to fight this particular infection.
Otherwise we are looking at yet another massive worldwide conspiracy to hide the truth.

Rabz
December 12, 2021 5:31 pm

Mark Hunter explaining the inspiration for that mighty track above:

“I was desperately in love with this girl and I wrote whole albums of songs about her …”

As one does. 🙂

Bar Beach Swimmer
December 12, 2021 5:37 pm

cohenite:
No doubt there are liars and greens in the libs but you work to get those bastards out

cohenite, they keep preselecting more of them rather than getting rid of them. Hence why John Ruddick departed to the Lib-Dems.

What about you? Otherwise they ain’t getting my vote.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
December 12, 2021 5:38 pm

Sure beats that Darryl bloke and his horses, Rabz…

Indolent
Indolent
December 12, 2021 5:39 pm
Rabz
December 12, 2021 5:43 pm

Indeed, Rex

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
December 12, 2021 5:43 pm

So long as I have a slab

AKA Betty’s worry …

Not quite, Rabz. 🙂

I was making an in-universe joke for Dot.

This is what I mean by Slab.

A humble Guardsman’s lot… 😉

Woolfe
Woolfe
December 12, 2021 5:44 pm

From Canadian commenting on Eugyypius thread re lockdowns and over reach.

Every boomer I encounter is in love with all this. They’ve lived their lives coasting on the stolen valour from their parents’ participation in the war, and have unlimited faith in the government.

They squandered 70 years of peace and prosperity and now spend their retirement calling the cops on kids playing basketball.

rosie
rosie
December 12, 2021 5:45 pm

In better news only two sleeps til my girls arrive.
Have been discussing this with my 17 month old grandson who is very excited about little cousin x coming ‘in the sky’.

He has an amazing vocab and repeats everything you say.
eg ‘ship’.
🙂

Behind Enemy Lines
Behind Enemy Lines
December 12, 2021 5:45 pm

DrBeauGan says:
December 12, 2021 at 2:26 pm
. . . So I moved on to the theory that bureaucrats wanted to control us and were terrifying ppl to deliver us from evil at the price of our freedom. This currently looks the most credible explanation for the behaviour of the political class.

I’d say there’s an element of that, and more. However, I think the underlying explanation is that after the initial period of understandable ignorance and alarm, government realised (as did all sensible people) that it had badly overreacted to the fear of threat and at the same time failed in its basic public health responsibilities. This left them with two options. They could apologise, lose the following election and face the legal consequences. Or they could double down, pretend this really was Black Death II, lie / deny / counter-accuse, and blame it all on the unconvinced and the uncooperative.

Two years on, here we are.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
December 12, 2021 5:45 pm

Mind you Rabz, a parody edit of Throw Your Arms Around Me would be very easily done.

Imagine (Euuurrgh) a Grigs-analogue with the creepy eyes and a plastic butterknife…

#Cancel-Bait

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
December 12, 2021 5:48 pm

Maybe a variation on this, Rabz?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=G5VeLCMr1kE

Originally made as a Twilight parody of sorts, but the effect is lost a little bit with the replacement cartoon.

Rabz
December 12, 2021 5:49 pm

Rex – a slab is a slab is a slab.

Gurgle, gurgle, gurgle … 🙂

Fat Tony
Fat Tony
December 12, 2021 5:51 pm

cohenite says:
December 12, 2021 at 5:17 pm
Rosie I was rightly criticized here for being too technical

Ignore them; they’re jealous. Be as technical as you want.

Cohenite – I was the one who “criticised” John H – all he was doing at the time was cutting & pasting excerpts from medical journals – so unless one was prepared to spend a few years at Uni doing medical studies, it was rather pointless.

What I asked for was a simplified version in addition to the cut & paste.
I can do that for my engineering field & it is not difficult to someone who really knows their field.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
December 12, 2021 5:53 pm

government realised (as did all sensible people) that it had badly overreacted to the fear of threat and at the same time failed in its basic public health responsibilities. This left them with two options. They could apologise, lose the following election and face the legal consequences.

This cost Sweden’s government far less at the time than the subsequent ‘normal’ political shenaniganry and scandals has.

One would think that a spot of honesty would actually temporarily improve one’s poll-standings in the way that appearing to show strong leadership during a natural disaster (e.g. bushfire, flood, etc.) might.

Or they could double down, pretend this really was Black Death II, lie / deny / counter-accuse, and blame it all on the unconvinced and the uncooperative.

When you are contemptuous of the average plebe and they are equally contemptuous of you, this was probably inevitable.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
December 12, 2021 5:54 pm

Rex – a slab is a slab is a slab.

Gurgle, gurgle, gurgle … 🙂

If the in-universe descriptions are anything to go by, you’d need a remarkable constitution to be able to drink the stuff. 🙁

#OyVey

JC
JC
December 12, 2021 5:56 pm

Look at the figures from NSW Health in my Shenanigans post two months ago.

I do recall, but there are several possibilities why that occurred as correlation doesn’t always speak to causation.

Also, look at the link above, in my reply to Rosie, where health care workers in a Danish study have a 100% increase in their risk profile during the first two weeks before their immune response rapidly improves.

First off, it doesn’t sound plausible and there would be more evidence needed than just Denmark, especially when a decent swag of the West has been immunized. Like above there could be other valid reasons. Other centres would be showing the same pattern as what you believe is occurring. Where is it?

Aren’t you in the least suspicious that these reporting agencies dump the newly vaxxed into the unvaxxed side of ledger for the first three weeks post-first jab?

I’m suspicious of all data, so yea, color me suspicious if indeed that is what’s been happening. Do you have not one, but several data points showing this to be true? I’d like to see several bits of data from unique sources confirming this.

Then do the same to first jab cohort, post-second jab for the first two weeks. They are contaminating both of these cohorts through this sleight of hand.

Perhaps they are, or perhaps it’s just sloppy data capture like we’ve seen throughout this abortion.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
December 12, 2021 5:57 pm

Plasmamortar, rotaries are very maintenance intensive and don’t like city driving much. Used to be a shed load of the round Bendigo when I was at Uni there, along with V8’s. The little Mazda’s would if tuned right belt the pants off a V8 initially. Seen it happen a few times round Pall Mall on McRae st between lights.

The boys that drove them however loved them and were honest about what it took to keep the going. Computers would likely lessen the load but reckon there still would be a lot of visits to the garage.

Tom
Tom
December 12, 2021 5:57 pm

Sickening.

The Chinks don’t run horse-racing with the same fear of horse and jockey fatalities of the Australians. There’s the chance of both horse and jockey deaths in the $A4m Group 1 Hong Kong sprint just run at Sha Tin. Hoping for the best.

JC
JC
December 12, 2021 5:59 pm

Fats

Cohenite – I was the one who “criticised” John H – all he was doing at the time was cutting & pasting excerpts from medical journals – so unless one was prepared to spend a few years at Uni doing medical studies, it was rather pointless.

Fats, with due respect, but we have people here liking to Karl Denninger and something called Team Tucker Carlson as evidence for scientific claims, yet you’re berating John H for linking to medical journals? Dude, come on.

Rabz
December 12, 2021 5:59 pm

1978, mate.

XTC had it pegged. 😕

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