2,998 thoughts on “Open Thread – Mon 13 Dec 2021”

  1. Can we blame the kerfuffle on covid or lockdowns?

    You could 10 years for saying something like that, Doc.

    It’s a terrific question and we at Stanford medical school have been toying with that for most of the two years. We in the psychiatric dept think there is latent mental instability aggravated by covid lockdown.

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  2. I’m still keeping things you said and texted to me as personal conversations and to myself.

    Yep. Everyone does that. Totally sane behaviour.

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  3. Hey JC, if it helps keep the costs down, I could act as the QC’s assistant, pro boner.
    I’ve got a bow-tie, and I can brush up on my Latin legal phrases and Roman numerals.
    They wouldn’t pick me from the real thing.

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  4. It’s a terrific question and we at Stanford medical school have been toying with that for most of the two years. We in the psychiatric dept think there is latent mental instability aggravated by covid lockdown.

    Gravy Trains beat Trucks vs Trains. Hands down.

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  5. That’s not ratio decidendi!
    It’s obiter rectum!
    Suffer in yer jocks

    Good to see you back, Sancho!

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  6. I’m still keeping things you said and texted to me as personal conversations and to myself. As I would for anyone, friend or not.
    Were the same true of you you wouldn’t have thrown my depression about on here as a topic of conversation after I confided in you and you acted sympathetic.
    You shit.
    We’re done, get it through your head. I not interested in your opinion on anything.

    First off, you started it with the personal, so don’t go around bawling when the shit comes hurtling back at you twice as hard. Also, not that it matters one single bit, but you’ve complained about being depressed publicly here or at the other blog so it wasn’t as though this was new.

    I’m quite happy to post the entirety of the test conversations. Unfortunately, 90% of them were you texting me.

    I don’t care if you want or not want my opinion. If I see you acting aggressively against people who I like, if you post ridiculous clownshow crap against free market economics etc, I will respond. You shouldn’t be here. You’re just not good enough.

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  7. Far better to write my pieces, let them stand for themselves and people make up their own minds. Right or wrong, I own what I write here.
    Remember there might be three or four on here now at this hour, chipping away, but hundreds more will read this in the morning.
    And look at the quality of comments on one’s own threads, compared to the sewer they drag this open thread down to.
    Engage? Why?
    They’re a tiny and ridiculous minority.

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  8. Far better to write my pieces, let them stand for themselves and people make up their own minds. Right or wrong, I own what I write here.

    Your pieces are stupid and very boring. Frankly I wouldn’t fess to owning any of it and I’d also be very nice to commenters as they could show pity and pretend to like the crap you post. Nothing personal, just business.

    Remember there might be three or four on here now at this hour, chipping away, but hundreds more will read this in the morning.

    Yep. I hope so and I’m sure they’ll agree with me too.

    And look at the quality of comments on one’s own threads, compared to the sewer they drag this open thread down to.

    You hypocritical clownshow. All you’ve done is threaten and delete commenters on those dickie threads of yours. Now you’re calling them quality comments? Fuck off with the hypocrisy.

    As for the open forum sewer, who wrote this?

    Arky says:
    December 16, 2021 at 8:11 pm

    I have decided to hate everyone.
    Progressive idiots. Stinking green thieving frauds with their transparent rorts. Beagle arse pounding libertarian cock smokers. Conservative tightwad law and order dimwit thickies. Judgement dodging atheists. Smirking sunshine optimist Christians. Old school Laborites who only came to their senses when their Marxist mates came for them with an axe. Vaccinated old biddies offended at being called the idiots they undoubtedly are. Unvaccinated depopulation conspiracy idiots. Conniving rich cunts. Lazy poor cunts. The middle class polite hypocrites. Working class gen X bogan tradie pricks with their Mc Fricking Mansions and tightwad refusal to pass their skills onto the young blokes so that everything now costs a bomb. The young blokes with their effeminate wankery and clueless shitfulness. Fucking boomers- buy every bloody house why don’t you. Whoever’s still living from the silent generation- you know the boomers might not have been so annoying if you had have actually explained the odd thing or two to them. Doctors- didn’t you pricks turn out to be clueless totalitarian fruits. Coppers- ditto. Politicians- just die already you swine. Retailers. Publicans, nurses, teachers, bus drivers and singer song writers. Idiot soldiers who spend the best part of their lives chasing bloody arabs when the pricks to worry about were right here.
    Apologies to anyone I’ve missed.

    Engage? Why?
    They’re a tiny and ridiculous minority.

    Medic, someone’s hallucinating here.

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  9. Armadillo says:
    December 17, 2021 at 12:29 am

    I’m still keeping things you said and texted to me as personal conversations and to myself.

    Arky, I took a look I’m happy to publish all my texts. Let me know if you are too. I’ll redact a few names for privacy reasons.

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  10. Depression is shit. And it can make people manic.

    I think it’s make believe nosnense. You can get the blues, but you just dust yourself and off you go

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  11. JC,
    World of difference between being depressed and depression.
    That sort of macho posturing has probably led to any number of people necking themselves.
    I’ve had to deal with people with depression. Why people would think I would make a peer support counsel or I don’t know but it is an illness mor real than the omnicron.
    Sometimes dealing with them makes me want to neck them myself. But then that would make me a bad person. There is no justice.

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  12. You can get the blues, but you just dust yourself and off you go

    People with depression don’t get that. They think the world is “better off” without them. Selfish bastards generally.

    It’s a “self pity” thingy.

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  13. Sometimes dealing with them makes me want to neck them myself. But then that would make me a bad person. There is no justice.

    Exactly.

  14. You really want to slap the depressed bastards. Hard.

    No point talking to them. Woe is me.

    Best strategy is to ignore them completely, or to “take the piss” out of them.

    I’m looking at you, Arkmeister.

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  15. Armadillosays:
    December 17, 2021 at 1:40 am
    You can get the blues, but you just dust yourself and off you go

    People with depression don’t get that. They think the world is “better off” without them. Selfish bastards generally.

    It’s a “self pity” thingy.

    If you factor in the health care costs the world would be better off without them.
    Depression is not always self-pity and can have a biological and developmental basis. The studies make it clear that adverse early life events seriously increase the risk for depression and result in the shrinkage of the hippocampus blah blah I won’t explain.
    If you can explain to me how self pity can causes changes in brain structure I might take your ideas seriously but if all you have is some intuitive and common sense idea I’ve heard it all before so don’t bother. Big Pharma makes a motza out of depression. Probably their biggest money spinner.

    Contrariwise it is obvious that so much diagnosed depression these days is just people going through a rough patch that has locked the person into behavior patterns which create a vicious cycle which is why I love:

    As long as we live self-consciously we must always fail to cope with the world.

    Even the psychic invalid throws away his crutches, in such moments [large external threat]. For him the greatest joy is to realise that there is something more important than himself. All his life he has turned on the spit of his own roasted ego. He made the fire with his own hands.

    Miller, Sexus, pp. 337,9

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  16. Lockdowns/shutdowns give certain people a “woody”.

    With Politicians, it’s the power. With workers, it’s the flexibility. With the dole recipients, it’s the pay cheque.

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  17. If you can explain to me how self pity can causes changes in brain structure I might take your ideas seriously but if all you have is some intuitive and common sense idea I’ve heard it all before so don’t bother.

    Depression is caused by stress.

    Stress can be either self inflicted, or by outside influences.

    Address the issue directly. Put it “in a box”. Move on. Problem solved.

    People tend to “worry too much”. About nothing. Depression is a disease of the “worriers”. There is a guilt factor there in many cases, they just need to “own up” and stop pretending they are the victims.

    Pussys.

  18. Armadillosays:
    December 17, 2021 at 2:30 am
    If you can explain to me how self pity can causes changes in brain structure I might take your ideas seriously but if all you have is some intuitive and common sense idea I’ve heard it all before so don’t bother.

    Depression is caused by stress.

    Stress can be either self inflicted, or by outside influences.

    Address the issue directly. Put it “in a box”. Move on. Problem solved.

    People tend to “worry too much”. About nothing. Depression is a disease of the “worriers”. There is a guilt factor there in many cases, they just need to “own up” and stop pretending they are the victims.

    Pussys.

    So all the ruckus about mental health problems arising from the lockdowns is just bunkum from self-pitying fools? Makes sense.

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  19. Your business didn’t go broke for no reason, nor did your missus shag the bloke next door because he mowed the lawn.

    Personal responsibility.

    I do however feel sympathy for young Sheliahs whose parents absolutely “let them down” by being arsehats and not protecting them.

    The first duty of a parent is to protect their child. We can’t always do that after they “leave the nest”. Shouldn’t need to if you trained them correctly.

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  20. So all the ruckus about mental health problems arising from the lockdowns is just bunkum from self-pitying fools? Makes sense.

    Government grifters might be your first port of call.

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  21. There will be plenty of calls to “lock it down” again.

    Let’s see what happens when the money runs out. Which it will.

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  22. Tom’s cartoon round up is the only source of information on world affairs I can trust these days.

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  23. The Bugman cometh…

    Henri Loyrette, heritage curator and former head of the Louvre museum, said: “One cannot imagine a reconstruction of Notre-Dame without an aggiornamento. The question is not, ‘should there be contemporary art?’, but rather, ‘what is a church today?’.

    “A strictly identical renovation is a capitulation,” he told Le Monde, which said a fierce battle was underway in the French Catholic Church between “believers in modernity and ecumenism and the guardians of a nostalgic conservatism

    Why does it need to be brought up to date, wanker? It is an historic and holy building, not a kitchen.

    I think the Mona Lisa should be brought up to date – let’s paint over her!

    No, the question isn’t either of those – it is what art should we install that honours God and encourages and fortifies the worshipers.

    “Capitulation” to what? Good taste? The faithful? God Himself?

    Modernists and ecumaniacs have brought the church undone – apparently this bugman wants more to complete the task.

    “Nostalgic conservatism” is actually required of Christians- we are constantly told to remember and preserve.

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  24. Dotsays:

    December 17, 2021 at 6:56 am

    No church is complete without a laser show and interpretative signs, plus a mural by youth offenders.

    That’s actionable!

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  25. Queue headlines about the overloaded NSW health system.

    Vaccination mandates extended to all primary care and other private sector health care providers (16 Dec)

    The NSW government in association with NSW Health has announced an extension of the mandatory vaccination program for health care workers.

    As part of the changes mandatory vaccinations will be extended to all primary care and other private sector health service providers across the state.

    “The revised Public Health Order will retain the existing coverage of NSW Health staff and staff in public and private hospitals,” a statement from NSW Health read.

    “It will also extend vaccination requirements to health practitioners working in private and community settings, such as doctors, nurses and pharmacists, speech pathologists, dieticians and naturopaths. It will also cover support staff working in these practices.”

    The health care workers affected must be fully vaccinated by January 31 next year with NSW Health stating the changes are consistent with vaccine mandates in Victoria, Queensland and Western Australia.

    Stupid people. It’s hard enough to get nurses and GPs now. Once 31 Jan rolls around that will become much worse. And it will make approximately zero difference to Covid infections, plus add many more to the vax injury list.

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  26. FRANCE APPROVES NOTRE-DAME ‘WRECKOVATION’
    Panel votes to ‘Disneyfy’ world’s most iconic medieval Gothic cathedral

    Writing in the wake of the Notre-Dame conflagration, conservative Jewish author and talk show host Dennis Prager observed, “It is as if God Himself wanted to warn us in the most unmistakable way that Western Christianity is burning — and with it, Western civilization.”

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  27. Just scrolled back.

    “Caustic humour” is much underrated, but like other corrosives, must be used sparingly.

    Otherwise you get splashback.

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  28. speech pathologists, dieticians and naturopaths

    This is just about killing off alternative therapies (some of it is woo) and direct competition.

    Brad Hazzard though. That Nobel prize winner ranks along with VC and bar (Uganda) recipient, David Elliot.

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  29. Psays:
    December 17, 2021 at 7:14 am
    FRANCE APPROVES NOTRE-DAME ‘WRECKOVATION’
    Panel votes to ‘Disneyfy’ world’s most iconic medieval Gothic cathedral

    Writing in the wake of the Notre-Dame conflagration, conservative Jewish author and talk show host Dennis Prager observed, “It is as if God Himself wanted to warn us in the most unmistakable way that Western Christianity is burning — and with it, Western civilization.”

    LOL. Can just imagine a statue of Jesus with blinking LED lights around the crown of thorns.

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  30. The decision to disallow the petroleum exploration lease off the NSW coast is monumental.

    I am so sick of this “community” BS.

    If that was true, it would go to a plebiscite.

    I reckon most of the poorer parts of Western Sydney would vote for jobs.

    Rich kids selling drugs living on the beach in their parents investment property may not ( I used to walk past a house like this every day to go to the beach at Dee Why).

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  31. European Environmentalists Have New Plan For Cargo Ships Based on Paris Climate Agreement Compliance
    December 16, 2021 | Sundance

    Folks, this story is not from The Onion or any version of sarcastic media. This is very real.

    To meet the compliance standards of the Paris Climate Accords and the subsequent treaty that all EU nations agreed to, they must reduce carbon emissions in freight and transit systems. They have spent thousands of hours pouring over possible solutions and will begin the test phase next month.

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  32. Psays:
    December 17, 2021 at 7:34 am
    European Environmentalists Have New Plan For Cargo Ships Based on Paris Climate Agreement Compliance
    December 16, 2021 | Sundance

    Folks, this story is not from The Onion or any version of sarcastic media. This is very real.

    To meet the compliance standards of the Paris Climate Accords and the subsequent treaty that all EU nations agreed to, they must reduce carbon emissions in freight and transit systems. They have spent thousands of hours pouring over possible solutions and will begin the test phase next month.

    LOL. Only a Millennial could come up with something so ridiculous.

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  33. All jokes aside. If they were actually serious about removing ‘carbon’ then there is no reason these ships couldn’t be run on nuclear power. The tech is well established.

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  34. They’re Ben Roberts-Smith’s medals on Elliott’s page.

    Someone has been very subtle.

    Also, the Liberal hacks scanning the page are useless as usual. I bet if you stuck them onto Shorten’s page they’d be disappeared quick as lightning.

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  35. (AP) – US health advisers recommend Pfizer or Moderna COVID-19 vaccines over J&J shot because of rare but serious side effect.

    This is a breaking news update. AP’s earlier story follows:

    (AP) – A government advisory panel is meeting Thursday to determine if any restrictions are needed for the Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 vaccine because of rare but serious blood clots.

    A strange clotting problem prompted the U.S. to temporarily halt the single-dose J&J shots last April while scientists investigated. Eventually regulators decided the benefits of a one-and-done vaccine outweighed what was considered a very rare risk — as long as recipients were warned.
    RTWT

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  36. Bruce of Newcastle @7.02am – re new mandate extending to alternate health practitioners et al:

    What maggots they are in the medical bureaucracy advising NSW government! My daughter has an excellent alternate health practitioner who has steered her teenage daughter (my granddaughter) out of the depths of depression a couple of years ago. He has refused to have the vaccination as he argues that his immune system is in top condition. Very probably he also has private misgivings about the dangers of the vax that he doesn’t advertise for obvious reasons.

    Just when you think there is light at the end of the tunnel you are reminded that these bureaucrats are vicious and go out after the dissidents with a vengeance – literally.

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  37. Razey

    9/12/16: C. O. 23rd – Transferred to 6th Machine Gun Battalion – France – AQ12367

    The 6th MG Battalion would have been intended for the (never completely raised) 6th Division. When it became painfully clear that there would not be enough reinforcements to complete the division, it was broken up and the men re-distributed as individual reinforcements. (There were never enough reinforcements for five divisions, but that is another story.) That is probably how he ended up in a low numbered MG company.

    Original members of the MG companies could often be identified by their low (for 1916) numbers. As a reinforcement for the 23rd Battalion, he would have had a relatively high number. (Perhaps in the 3000s or 4000s?)

    Actually, look again record. Was it the 6th MG Company, which was the company belonging to the 6th Brigade, to which the 23rd Battalion belonged? It might be a clerical error, in which case my babbling about the 6th Division becomes irrelevant.

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  38. If they were actually serious about removing ‘carbon’ then there is no reason these ships couldn’t be run on nuclear power.

    The Taliban could flog off a few black hawk helicopters and get into the freight game.

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  39. Razeysays:
    December 16, 2021 at 11:00 pm
    Wow, what a great night, thanks to Boambee John.

    Turns out my GGF was in the 6th machine gun company, and there was a bloody BOOK written about them! In Good Company: An Account of the 6th Machine Gun Company, AIF in Search of Peace 1915-1919

    Just bought it! I know what I’ll be reading this Christmas.

    Caught up with this after posting my earlier comment. The 6th MG Company it was ! Happy reading, glad to help.

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  40. The behemoth jerks the strings.

    BlackRock adds diversity target for U.S. boardrooms

    On climate matters, BlackRock previously had pressed companies to report their emissions and other factors under the SASB standards of the Value Reporting Foundation. BlackRock said on Tuesday that companies may use other standards, noting the work of a new international board announced at the United Nations climate summit in Scotland last month. read more

    BlackRock also said it would encourage companies to show how their business plans would be resilient amid efforts to limit global warming, and noted the opportunities offered by new energy sources.

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  41. Is Omicron Another Lab Creation?

    As noted by Malone, the latest media hype actually began with reports of Africa having far lower case rates than the rest of the world, despite its comparatively low COVID jab rate. That was followed by reports in the local press that South Africa was asking Pfizer to halt its shipments of the shots, as they still had plenty and most adults were refusing to take it.

    The very next day, “we suddenly had this huge kerfuffle about this new virus strain, and the press was announcing it was coming out of South Africa,” Malone says. The U.K. almost immediately responded by shutting its borders to most of South Africa.

    There could be a serious discussion on whether or not Pfizer runs the world.

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  42. Only in the Territory:

    Best letter today in the NT News is from an “Eric John Roberts”. He tells the world, in rather stilted language, that he is wearing “two face masks” wherever he goes.

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  43. Bruce of Newcastlesays:
    December 17, 2021 at 7:02 am
    Queue headlines about the overloaded NSW health system.

    Vaccination mandates extended to all primary care and other private sector health care providers (16 Dec)

    The NSW government in association with NSW Health has announced an extension of the mandatory vaccination program for health care workers.

    Look back at Cassie’s tale of woe yesterday, and my comment bout bureaucrats bleating about overloaded hospitals. Extend that now to GP and specialist practices.

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  44. Wuhan Lab Leak “More Likely” Origin Of COVID-19, Says Researcher

    leak my arse, it was deliberate.

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  45. That’s some quick thinking.
    Totally worth $5 a gallon.

    ttps://twitter.com/MHurabiell/status/1471356501470154754
    h/t TheLastRefuge

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  46. Currently contracting on a small gold mine in WA with 180 employees.

    50 haven’t had their second clot shot that you need to return in 2022.

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  47. I don’t know who Brett Finch is, but not everyone likes being mentioned in the same sentence as him for some reason.
    Is he a nember of the Liberal Party?

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  48. Look back at Cassie’s tale of woe yesterday, and my comment bout bureaucrats bleating about overloaded hospitals. Extend that now to GP and specialist practices.

    I must be very naive. I thought that the reason doctors studied so long to become doctors was to be able to make medical decisions for themselves and their patients. Obviously, bureaucrats know better.

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  49. BlackRock adds diversity target for U.S. boardrooms

    When are they going to change their racist name?
    How about NoparticularcolorRock or WokeRock.
    That’s $400k consultancy fee, you’re welcome.

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  50. Local takeaways now serving the unmasked and uncoded without comment.
    Everyone is over this shit and it shows.

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  51. “A strictly identical renovation is a capitulation,” he told Le Monde, which said a fierce battle was underway in the French Catholic Church between “believers in modernity and ecumenism and the guardians of a nostalgic conservatism

    Imagine the levels of retardation needed to look at Notre Dame, and thinking “This needs the front paving painted green and some cement shitting lions on Plinths to really jazz it up and give it some class.

    For the video show perhaps they could go the full ‘come to daddy” experience?

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  52. Indolentsays:
    December 17, 2021 at 8:54 am
    Reuters

    Refugees lack COVID shots because drugmakers fear lawsuits – documents

    Prisoners in Australia as well.
    The people the government are 100% responsible for.
    Passing strange isnt it?

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  53. negative efficacy

    exactly what was on my mind all week
    now there’s nice chart that shows it.
    sweet!

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  54. In a sane world this would be a big red alarm going “YOU ARE FUCKING UP” with lights & sirens thrown in.
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-12-17/unions-react-myefo-economic-update-wage-growth-migration/100706990

    In 2020-21, roughly 100,000 more people left Australia than moved here due to strict border policies.*

    That trend is expected to continue this financial year, even as borders slowly open — with 41,000 more people to depart than arrive.

    But in 2022-23, things will start to quickly turn around.

    That year is expected to see 180,000 more people arrive than depart, followed by 213,000 the following year, and 235,000 in 2024-25.

    To put that number in context, during the last “normal” year (2018-19), that number was 241,000.

    And it has been much higher than that in the past — in 2008-09, it fell just short of 300,000.

    TL/DR: The government is about to unleash the migration ponzi turned up to 11, the unions have noticed this tends to reduce wages pressures.

    But in “Good news” the depreciation in buying power being currently caused by inflation will be over in 2022… according to the same mongs who caused it.

    * Imagine misgoverning a continent so badly you have to import replacement populations because you are driving people out.

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  55. Lot’s of macho skinny dipping last night with bush lawyer threats being flung around like lip-stick at Mardi Gras. Head prefect offered to Dot unlimited financial support, which is fine except for this:

    What I offered Dot, who actually is a very decent person

    That is incorrect head prefect. Dot is not decent because he has maligned Viking Steaks. As a man you must recognise this slur on masculinity. If you don’t next thing I suppose you’ll be wearing suspenders and crotch-less panties. It’s a slippery slope.

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  56. In a sane world this would be a big red alarm going “YOU ARE FUCKING UP” with lights & sirens thrown in.

    I expectr Labor to make this a point of difference in the election campaign – their policies will be lower immigration and higher levels of skills & wages for locals.

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  57. Victor Davis Hanson making a lot of sense. “Democracy” for the left is getting their own way.

    A report on Biden’s international “Democracy Summit” held last week:

    Democracy, as Biden, Harris, and other speakers would have you believe, is more than just popular participation in a polity’s political process. It’s the continual expansion and exportation of abortion on demand, critical race theory, and loosely-defined racial equity; it is pervasive wokeness in private and public life. To these elites, democracy is both an intrinsic good, and also good only insofar as it achieves their radically autonomous ends.

    RTWT

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  58. The decision to disallow the petroleum exploration lease off the NSW coast is monumental.

    Dot, London to a brick most wouldn’t be locals. There are quite a few coal mines in the hinterland round the ‘gong.

    I’d love to see Kean unseated by some green left indy… the guy represents all that is wrong with the Liberals.

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  59. The decision to disallow the petroleum exploration lease off the NSW coast is monumental.

    Meanwhile, the QLD government has granted Origin Energy c. a dozen leases for fossil fuel exploration in the channel country. Still a couple of hoops to jump through but that’s the main one.

    The usual suspects – “traditional owners”, environmentlaists & “Lock the Gate” are up in arms because they allegedly weren’t consulted, which is to say they weren’t granted a veto.

    ABC aghast that “fracking” could be used.

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  60. does it do for inflation adjusted per capita GDP?

    Nothing discernable, according to this

    However that may be despite of, rather than because of.

    It may have been far higher in the absence of this.

    Another factor is that Australia’s immigration program has always had an emphasis on skills.

  61. Victor Davis Hanson making a lot of sense. “Democracy” for the left is getting their own way.

    Same when they speak of bipartisanship.

    “If you do what we want, then we will be working together.”

    When in opposition it means throwing every obstacle in the way of the government while calling them blindly partisan. In government it means that the people have spoken and even in policies the public was never informed of beforehand the opposition must ‘hop on board’.

    Our Liberal governments have a long history of bipartisanship, always finally coming around to Labor’s and the Green’s position.

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  62. Imagine the levels of retardation needed to look at Notre Dame, and thinking “This needs the front paving painted green and some cement shitting lions on Plinths to really jazz it up and give it some class.

    That would be a change to modernists’ standard fare.

  63. No doubt immigration will increase GDP…

    To what extent? If minimal, what is the net benefit if other measures of quality of life are into account?

    Across the board, what percentage of migrants pay more in tax than they receive in benefits, thus ensuring their presence is a net benefit to the host population?

    How much do they send out of the country in remittances?

    Has any economist probed the assumptions behind Treasury’s recent modelling that underpins the return to 160 000 per year?

    So many questions…

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  64. * Imagine misgoverning a continent so badly you have to import replacement populations because you are driving people out.

    this will be only feasable once the Soylent Green conveyors are commissioned.

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  65. Why does a canbra shiny bum outfit tasked with taking other people’s money and spending it determine our economic policy and priorities? Fuck ANU canbra Marxist parasites.

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  66. Dot, London to a brick most wouldn’t be locals. There are quite a few coal mines in the hinterland round the ‘gong.

    Wasn’t that something that Abbott tried to change or actually change only for it to changed back by Trumble – to require people challenging proposed projects to demonstrate that they are in someway affected? People from Melbourne, for example, could not travel to QLD to complain about the Adani mine.

    As it is you have morons live in a fantasy world where Gaia is alive and all living things (well, vertebrates and trees) rely upon their benign stewardship so even a tree frog in the Amazon is their urgent, even righteous, concern. And woe to any human who would interfere with a frog!

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  67. Why does [Notre Dame] need to be brought up to date, wanker? It is an historic and holy building, not a kitchen.

    It’s precisely because it’s a “historic and holy building” that it needs to be secularised.

    The French Revolution is still playing out.

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  68. Roger. Prize for the most clueless was a sticker I saw in a mine car park in Queensland. Protesting gas exploration in Channel Country. However this is the generation we deal with, quite a few of my collegues openly hold green left veiws that if I held I couldn’t reconcile with working in a coal mine.

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  69. Cardinal Pell Has One Question for Cardinal Becciu: ‘Will He Just Tell Us What the Money Was Sent for?’
    National Catholic Register-Joan Frawley Desmond-December 16, 2021

    The former prefect of the Vatican’s Secretariat for the Economy sat down for an interview on his three-volume ‘Prison Journal’ touching on his incarceration, Cardinal Becciu and Vatican finances.

    I’m not confident of anything with the Vatican trial. I don’t know what’s going on. I’m not even entirely sure that it will go ahead. It might fail for legal reasons.

    There’s no doubt that 2,300,000 [Australian dollars] was sent from the Vatican to Australia. Cardinal Becciu acknowledged that.

    We just received the available recordings of the [Vatican] trial, and it looks as though Msgr. [Alberto] Perlasca, [the longtime investment manager for the Vatican], said under interrogation that the money was sent to the bishops’ conference in Australia for my legal defense. That’s certainly not true. We’ve asked the bishops’ conference, they received nothing. We certainly received nothing.

    So I have one question for Cardinal Becciu: “Will he just tell us what the money was sent for?” And if it’s nothing to do with me or for entirely innocent purposes, good, I would be quite pleased, and we can get on with our lives.

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  70. The French Revolution is still playing out.

    Note that the French government, not the Catholic Church, owns Notre Dame and the rest of France’s cathedrals. The fire has given them the excuse to further vandalise the building with the willing assistance, sadly, of a few leading Catholic iconoclasts in the mould of Vatican II.

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  71. As it is you have morons live in a fantasy world where Gaia is alive and all living things (well, vertebrates and trees) rely upon their benign stewardship so even a tree frog in the Amazon is their urgent, even righteous, concern. And woe to any human who would interfere with a frog!

    Coming from concrete jungles, their embedded carbon footprint is massive.

    All that matters is outcomes. Not feelings.

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  72. However this is the generation we deal with, quite a few of my collegues openly hold green left veiws that if I held I couldn’t reconcile with working in a coal mine.

    But the pay is good.

    Moral cowardice…a lot of it about these days.

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  73. Mask mandate effective in QLD from 1.00am tomorrow.

    Round and round we go and when we stop nobody knows.

    If my wife and I could be sure they won’t close the borders again or introduce some draconian restrictions on returnees we’d be cancelling our QLD beachside holiday and heading down to Sydney. Still may cancel anyway.

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  74. How much do they send out of the country in remittances?

    Got mates married to Philo’s & Thai’s. If parents are farmers or retired remittances are the norm. That whole part of the world including the sub continent has a large part of their young population working overseas as mechanics or housekeeping staff.

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  75. Looks like Norilsk could use some extra CO2.

    They just lurve greens in Norilsk. A nickel and cobalt town. Nickel has been around US$20k per tonne and cobalt is a sweet $70k per tonne. All those batteries don’t make themselves.

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  76. If parents are farmers or retired remittances are the norm.

    I understand that and nothing against it, Rockdoctor, but for some countries remittances can account for 5% or more of GDP! There are going to be pros and cons in that situation for the receiving country.

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  77. Pallashay on the new(ish) Qld mask mandate (the CM):

    ‘‘This is a small price to pay for your freedoms’, she said.’

    Steely-eyed plain-talkers from Australia’s last holdout won’t stand for this.

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  78. Mask mandate effective in QLD from 1.00am tomorrow.
    Science! (TM).

    Not necessarily Science!(TM).
    Anna, the Mother of All Queenssslanders, might have someone on the inside,
    passing on Omicron’s dastardly plans.

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  79. If my wife and I could be sure they won’t close the borders again or introduce some draconian restrictions on returnees we’d be cancelling our QLD beachside holiday and heading down to Sydney. Still may cancel anyway.

    The problem for Queensssland tourism in a nutshell.
    Uncertainty.
    Pony Girl and her advisers still believe their “pilot light” and “snapback” rhetoric.
    You don’t reckon our competing markets (Fiji, Bali, Hawaii) aren’t poisoning the wells about Queensssland being high risk.

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  80. Totally unexpected. A bolt from the blue. Inconceivable.

    Former Wallabies captain David Pocock will run as an independent Senate candidate in the ACT at next year’s federal election on a platform of “bold” climate change action, integrity and a constitutionally enshrined Indigenous voice to parliament.

    The former rugby union player who says he currently has “zero dollars” in his campaign account said he would not rule out accepting donations from investor Simon Holmes a Court’s Climate 200 activist group.

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  81. The former rugby union player who says he currently has “zero dollars” in his campaign account

    A bit sad for a bloke who until very recently was earning $750,000 p.a.

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  82. The problem for Queensssland tourism in a nutshell.

    What’s left of it.

    Cyclone Anna has wreaked more destruction than Yasi did.

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  83. ‘‘This is a small price to pay for your freedoms’, she said.

    PS: if the idiots will take this up the arse, imagine what else they’ll fall for.

    In the shit between leftards’ ears, compliance (giving up your freedom) is freedom.

    No wonder she’s barren. Getting her pregnant would be child abuse.

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  84. No wonder she’s barren. Getting her pregnant would be child abuse.

    George Megagenius was not up to the job (the first of many).

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  85. The former rugby union player who says he currently has “zero dollars” in his campaign account

    A bit sad for a bloke who until very recently was earning $750,000 p.a.

    Or he’s just not willing to back himself with his own money.

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  86. Eyriesays:
    December 17, 2021 at 10:11 am
    No doubt immigration will increase GDP but what does it do for inflation adjusted per capita GDP?

    Nothing good.

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  87. Will

    Another factor is that Australia’s immigration program has always had an emphasis on skills.

    As demonstrated by Fraser’s “Lebanese concession”?

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  88. Another factor is that Australia’s immigration program has always had an emphasis on skills.

    Skilled migrants will make up less than 50% of the 2021-22 intake.

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  89. Old School Conservativesays:
    December 17, 2021 at 11:24 am
    The former rugby union player who says he currently has “zero dollars” in his campaign account

    A bit sad for a bloke who until very recently was earning $750,000 p.a.

    Steady on! Surely you don’t think that he will be using his money?

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  90. Mushroom news.

    Deadly ‘black fungus’ disease spotted in Americans with COVID-19 (16 Dec)

    Many cases were severe—four patients showed disease that had spread to the nose and mouth, with three of those patients also having the brain affected. In two cases, the illness attacked the lungs, and in one case the gastrointestinal system was affected, Gold’s team said.

    None of the patients had been vaccinated against the new coronavirus.

    There you go, the unclean will be colonized by fungus. OTOH given how the MSM so keenly keeps us in the dark and feeds us so much, er, fertilizer, these patients should do very well.

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  91. As demonstrated by Fraser’s “Lebanese concession”?

    Well it was certainly a boon to the organised crime sector.

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  92. B John

    Per capita in constant dollars is quite good. In fact it’s one of the highest in the world if not the highest after ignoring the Gulf states. It’s in US dollars which is the only real currency that counts

    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/NYGDPPCAPKDAUS

    Ironically, the trend line kept going higher as we reformed the economy.

    So much for we make nafink.

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  93. dopeysays:

    December 17, 2021 at 11:42 am

    “I think Brett Finch is a golfer of some kind.” No, that’s Brett Lee.

    No.
    Brett Lee has a chain of appliance stores.
    Brett Finch is definitely a golfer with the yips and a collection of antique cars.
    Red ones.

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  94. ‘‘This is a small price to pay for your freedoms’, she said.

    Mask up or you’ll be locked out and locked down, warns the Ukrainian.

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  95. I read that Gillard has received an honorary doctorate in law from RMIT. Not bad for someone who ended their legal career as a junior partner in an exit interview explaining how she jeopardised a major client relationship after being in a relationship with one of their thug employees. Strange world.

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  96. So much for we make nafink.

    We don’t make much nafink, but our nafink is top quality.
    World class nafink.

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  97. One also needs to kind of ignore or adjust for those smaller European countries which show outsized GDP , such as Switzerland and Luxembourg etc. The reason is that they have lots of foreign workers who live over the border and work in these countries during the day. It creates a problem accounting for GDP because those foreigners work in those places but don’t live there. Therefore GDP per capita is distorted by these fewer people who produce but aren’t counted .

    For a place that makes nafink and has experienced very high levels of immigration we’ve done okay. Perhaps it needs to be lowered for social reasons but the economics doesn’t reflect this need as overwhelming.

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  98. Re the Cernovich tweet on the side bar, if the vaccines are safe and the adverse effects are rare, why does Pfizer, for instance, require as a matter of necessity for their mass distribution, an indemnity clause? Does Claire Lehmann have any idea?

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  99. An interesting view of the coronapanic from a UK perspective.
    Did a little rummaging around and Ben Irvine isn’t just some random nutter.
    Don’t be Shy, Tories looks interesting.

    Those who believe in freedom and personal responsibility should take personal responsibility for defending freedom. In this long polemical essay, philosopher Ben Irvine calls on conservatives to be more confident in their views, and more active in promoting them. While recounting his own journey as a conservative intellectual, Irvine diagnoses what went wrong for conservatism in the UK, and offers a few tips on how to set things right.

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  100. I read that Gillard has received an honorary doctorate in law from RMIT. Not bad for someone who ended their legal career as a junior partner in an exit interview explaining how she jeopardised a major client relationship after being in a relationship with one of their thug employees. Strange world.

    Read all about it here. The slapper is living proof there is no justice.

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  101. I read that Gillard has received an honorary doctorate in law from RMIT. Not bad for someone who ended their legal career as a junior partner in an exit interview explaining how she jeopardised a major client relationship after being in a relationship with one of their thug employees. Strange world.

    This is an institution that employs Rob Hulls to head up its ‘Centre for Innovative Justice’.

    Innovative justice…I suppose that’s one term for what the Victorian courts dish out.

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  102. Dover

    It’s America, as you know you need an escape clause for people talking a slash in a halfway public toilet

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  103. I read that Gillard has received an honorary doctorate in law from RMIT. Not bad for someone who ended their legal career as a junior partner in an exit interview explaining how she jeopardised a major client relationship after being in a relationship with one of their thug employees. Strange world.

    And shortly thereafter handed in her practising certificate and has not been able to practice law since. Amazing eh?

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  104. JC at 12:05.
    Are you saying that my Swiss watch might have been made by a Frenchman and my Lindor balls might have been fondled by a German.
    Mein Gott and Sacre Bleu!

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  105. I read that Gillard has received an honorary doctorate in law from RMIT.

    Goes with the lefty territory.

    DC Bar Reinstates Ex-FBI Lawyer Who Admitted Altering Russia Probe Email (16 Dec)

    Former FBI attorney Kevin Clinesmith, who altered an email during the Russia investigation that was used to justify the surveillance of former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page, has been reinstated as a member “in good standing” to the District of Columbia Bar Association, reports Real Clear Investigations.

    Clinesmith pleaded guilty in August 2021 to falsifying the document during the early stages of the FBI’s probe into Russia interference in the 2016 presidential election and potential ties to the Trump campaign.

    Only class-enemies lose their law licenses.

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  106. And shortly thereafter handed in her practising certificate and has not been able to practice law since. Amazing eh?

    What’s more amazing is that for c. 7 years she could make laws.

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  107. It’s America, as you know you need an escape clause for people talking a slash in a halfway public toilet

    Sure, but that applies to their fully licensed products too and as patients we can refuse them. The fact that they require an indemnity clause in order to distribute the vaxx is instructive.

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  108. Sancho Panzer says:
    December 17, 2021 at 12:26 pm
    JC at 12:05.
    Are you saying that my Swiss watch might have been made by a Frenchman and my Lindor balls might have been fondled by a German.
    Mein Gott and Sacre Bleu!

    Yes, the Swiss are just money gnomes in
    Zurich. They make nafink. It’s the Germans, frogs, Italians who make sumfink there. 🙂

  109. Re the Cernovich tweet on the side bar, if the vaccines are safe and the adverse effects are rare, why does Pfizer, for instance, require as a matter of necessity for their mass distribution, an indemnity clause?

    To be fair, Dover, J&J just had a court case upheld against them for squillions.

    Supreme Court rejects J&J request to halt talcum powder suit (14 Dec)

    That deadly deadly material known as baby powder. Worse than plutonium. If I was Pfizer I’d be writing iron-clad indemnity clauses too.

    (All this stuff is complete rubbish. But I’m not the poor CEO making out the cheques to these gold diggers.)

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  110. I said the new qld cho is a dangerous ideologue.

    So first thing he does is gins up a mob:

    “Mask wearing is not just about protecting yourself, it is also protect about protecting others,” he said.

    “It works both ways, so it is a socially desirable thing to be wearing a mask and I think it’s somewhat anti-social to not be wearing a mask in crowded environments.”

    But then:

    The mandate won’t apply in venues where a vaccine mandate came into effect from 5am on Friday such as cafes, restaurants, nightclubs, stadiums and theme parks.

    Dangerous man playing with fire.

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  111. Yes, the Swiss are just money gnomes in
    Zurich. They make nafink. It’s the Germans, frogs, Italians who make sumfink there. 

    So there is a fair chance my Swiss Army knife might have been assembled by … gasp! … Italians!
    Inconceivable!

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  112. So egghead QLD cho has declared masks mandatory in QLD retail until people get vaccinated to the correct number.

    Remember when they lifted implemented the previous mask mandates and said at 80% they’d be lifted because 80‰ was the magical reward number?

    Surprise!

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  113. Qld nakedly attempting to ruin Christmas for everyone and linking it to vaccination numbers.

    Hoping a mob will form against hold outs.

    So obvious.

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  114. Chairman Dan’s personality revealed:

    Adem Somyurek leaks details of Daniel Andrews cabinet meetings

    RACHEL BAXENDALE
    VICTORIAN POLITICAL REPORTER

    Former Labor powerbroker and Andrews government minister Adem Somyurek has leaked details of cabinet meetings in which he was involved, claiming the Premier begins every meeting by seeking praise for his social media strategy.

    Mr Somyurek’s Twitter spray comes after an investigation into branch-stacking allegations against his former ALP faction was used by powerbrokers as a pretext for effectively ending the state political careers of five of his former allies, as well as two other factionally isolated MPs not implicated in the scandal.

    “First item on the agenda every Cabinet meeting is the size of Dans (sic) online performance,” Mr Somyurek tweeted on Thursday.

    “It is a ritual that bores all ministers and interferes with the business of government. But ministers shut up – lest they offend the mad king. Dans (sic) private office contains a social media unit.”

    Mr Somyurek said the Premier would then call on a “senior female adviser” to report on his online performance.

    “The adviser reports glowingly about Dans (sic) big reach, comparing the size of Dans (sic) reach with the size of the PMs and other premiers in what is a weekly reach measuring contest.

    “As the adviser breaks down every tweet, every Facebook post and proclaims Dan popularity, Dan leans back in his chair with hands clasped behind his head scans the room with pride looking for acknowledgment and praise from ministers of his big reach.”

    Mr Somyurek said the Premier would then invite feedback from ministers, with those aligned with his own Socialist Left faction “quick off the block” and “effusive in their praise of their ‘dear leaders’ ‘massive’ reach.”

    “Out of fear of being purged Right ministers reluctantly follow. As the adviser returns to her seat, she is often seen rolling her eyes.”

    Mr Andrews has more than a million followers on Facebook — more than 200,000 more than Prime Minister Scott Morrison — having spent almost $800,000 of taxpayers’ money in his first five years in power to promote his page on the social media platform.

    He has a combined 1.7 million followers across Facebook, Twitter, Instagram and TikTok.

    In September, his former social media strategist Eloise Young revealed community engagement on the Premier’s platforms soared up to 451 per cent as the pandemic hit Victoria during the state’s extended 2020 lockdown.

    The Premier’s office declined to comment.

    Herald-Sun

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  115. So egghead QLD cho has declared masks mandatory in QLD retail until people get vaccinated to the correct number.

    How stupid is the Ukrainian?
    Masks are not required for: bar staff, office staff, kitchen staff.

    However, Bottleshop staff do have to wear a mask.
    An outdoors job, non-stop exertion, heavy breathing never ends.

    You couldn’t make up this level of stupidity.

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  116. Perth cathedral to host vaccination clinics

    The clinics at St Mary’s Cathedral will operate this weekend and again on January 8 and 9 (The eRecord/WA Government)

    Perth Archbishop Timothy Costelloe SDB has approved two pop-up COVID-19 vaccination clinics to be held at St Mary’s Cathedral, echoing Pope Francis’ call for people to be vaccinated as “an act of love”. Source: The eRecord.

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  117. JC

    Per capita in constant dollars is quite good. In fact it’s one of the highest in the world if not the highest after ignoring the Gulf states. It’s in US dollars which is the only real currency that counts

    Correct me if I am wrong, but aren’t welfare payments counted towards GDP? If so, then Fraser’s “Lebanese concession” increased GDP? And bringing in unemployables, and putting them on welfare also does?

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  118. Bruce of Newcastle:

    Stupid people. It’s hard enough to get nurses and GPs now. Once 31 Jan rolls around that will become much worse. And it will make approximately zero difference to Covid infections, plus add many more to the vax injury list.

    You need to see this through the eyes of the sort of person who works in Health Administration, Bruce.
    They will be looking at the budget bottom line and saying to themselves “How good will this look in my resume!”
    This attitude is the same as the one that sacks senior staff with 20+ years of experience, replaces them with imported nurses with bugger all experience, then complains about the cost of the lawsuits after patients get crippled or die.

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  119. In September, his former social media strategist Eloise Young revealed community engagement on the Premier’s platforms soared up to 451 per cent as the pandemic hit Victoria during the state’s extended 2020 lockdown.

    LOL

    Chinese click farms.

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  120. Perth Archbishop Timothy Costelloe SDB has approved two pop-up COVID-19 vaccination clinics to be held at St Mary’s Cathedral, echoing Pope Francis’ call for people to be vaccinated as “an act of love”. Source: The eRecord.

    What is the based Orthodox church’s number?

    Hello, based department?

  121. Seriously, who actually bought Gladys Berejiklian all of those flowers?

    Yep, beloved like Princess Diana.

    Golly gosh, for a moment there I wondered if she had dropped dead !!!!!!

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  122. UKHSA Week 50 data is in and 18-29 have joined the older age groups – except 70 and above that are largely boosted now – in negative efficacy. In other words, the vaxxed are experiencing higher rates of infection than the unvaxxed.

    The UKHSA data actually makes a strong case for vaccination in the 60+ age group – and most certainly for the 70+ cohort.

    As Eugippius tells us, the apparent death rate for the 70+ unvaxxed is about 3x that of the vaxxed. For the 60+ unvaxxed it’s about 4x.

    Although Eugippius doesn’t appear to have done the calculation, the raw death numbers also reflect this benefit: the unvaxxed make up only ~5% of the 70+ cohort – yet make up 14% of total deaths in that group.

    Similarly for the 60 to 69 cohort: unvaxxed ~7%; unvaxxed as proportion of deaths 25%.

    In terms of severe cases, Eugippius tells us that the unvaxxed make up “only” 48% of the reported patients in UK critical care. However he forgets to mention that the unvaxxed also only make up between ~5% and ~20% of the ‘at risk’ population (ie the over 50’s). So, there’s somewhere between a 2.5x to 10x+ over-representation of the unjabbed in the ICU.

    Negative efficacy” seems to be a user-defined term.

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  123. B John

    Welfare, like all government transfers are counted once so its “production” is not double counting. It’s distributed and that’s how it would be picked up. Have a look at the GDP equation and just consider “ government” as part of production because government doesn’t produce anything. It just takes from the private sector to satisfy “unmet needs”.

  124. Pallashay on the new(ish) Qld mask mandate (the CM):

    ‘‘This is a small price to pay for your freedoms’, she said.’

    Or:

    “Freedom is slavery!”

    “He gazed up at the enormous bloated face. Forty years it had taken him to learn what kind of smile was hidden in the long dark parabolic shadow under the nose. O cruel, needless misunderstanding! O stubborn, self-willed exile from the loving breast! Two gin-scented tears trickled down to be dampen the top of his face mask. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Palaszczuk.”

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  125. government transfers are counted

    government transfers are NOT counted

    Virgin market monetarism vs Chad Austrian school meme intensifies!

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  126. Correct me if I am wrong, but aren’t welfare payments counted towards GDP?

    Transfer payments are not.

    I thought Id google for a simple yes/no….

    Apparently the answer is NO!? definitely….not?

    Lots of people spruiking an increase in welfare payments as a boost to GDP (via spending) though.

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  127. Okay Dot.

    Let’s be difficult. Where are welfare payments in the GDP. Is it government or left as part of production?

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  128. Dr Faustussays:

    In terms of severe cases, Eugippius tells us that the unvaxxed make up “only” 48% of the reported patients in UK critical care. However he forgets to mention that the unvaxxed also only make up between ~5% and ~20% of the ‘at risk’ population (ie the over 50’s). So, there’s somewhere between a 2.5x to 10x+ over-representation of the unjabbed in the ICU.

    “Negative efficacy” seems to be a user-defined term.

    You are too kind.
    Eugippius didn’t forget, he deliberately forgot to mention that to support his narrative.
    I’m not kind. He is a bullshit artist.

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  129. You are too kind.
    Eugippius didn’t forget, he deliberately forgot to mention that to support his narrative.
    I’m not kind. He is a bullshit artist.

    Can you please elucidate, John H.?

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  130. So far today we’ve turned away Three out of every Four people who’ve wanted to enter the pub.

    #vaccinemandate
    #itsforyourowngood
    #welovePalaszczuk
    #Annlovesme
    #uncleanunvaxxedlepers

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  131. First item on the agenda every Cabinet meeting is the size of Dans (sic) online performance,” Mr Somyurek tweeted on Thursday.

    Sounds like Keef talking about Mick’s ‘tiny todger’.

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  132. Qld CHO says its “antisocial” to not wear a mask in crowded settings.

    Then excludes pubs, clubs, theme parks from mask wearing.

    Because Science!(tm)

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  133. Perth Archbishop Timothy Costelloe SDB has approved two pop-up COVID-19 vaccination clinics to be held at St Mary’s Cathedral, echoing Pope Francis’ call for people to be vaccinated as “an act of love”.

    Does this mean not getting vaxxed is a sin of omission?

    A selfish failure to “act in love” towards my neighbour?

    Only if the vaccines actually worked to prevent transmission.

    And so the house that Francis built turns out to be based on sand.

    But, by all means, continue to curry favour with the authorities, Your Grace.

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  134. John H.says:
    December 17, 2021 at 1:56 pm

    Dont care, cant care.
    2 years of government thuggery renders any other measurement or statistics irrelevant,.

    In you critique of “a bullshit artist” did you manage to find how many people have been irreversibly damaged by the lockdowns and various restrictions?
    Surely thats a burning issue since you care…so…much…

    Heres a few places to start.

    Child and youth mental health problems have doubled during COVID-19

    MELBOURNE VACANCY RATES HIT 20-YEAR HIGH AS DEMAND HITS RECORD LOW

    Then theres this mystery, wrapped in an enigma hidden inside a beagle
    https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/health/causes-death/causes-death-australia/latest-release
    In 2020:

    There was a 23.9% decrease in the age-standardised death rate from respiratory diseases.
    Influenza and pneumonia mortality had the highest proportional rate decrease of all respiratory diseases with a drop of 45.8% from 2019.
    There were 55 people who died from influenza. This compares to 1,080 in 2019.
    Pneumonia is also a common terminal cause of death, especially for older people who have long term chronic conditions. There was a decrease of more than 20% in influenza and pneumonia as an associated cause of death (where it was not the underlying cause of death).
    The decrease in the respiratory disease death rate from 2019 is the largest recorded over the last ten years.

    its almost like the coof being excluded from the usual cause of death for the elderly migth, just might be the reason for the decrease?

    Naaah, lock everything down, 24/7 fear porn and lurch into the 3rd year of a state of emergency granting unlimited powers to the politicians.
    Thats bound to make things better.

    Causes of death Oz 2020..
    COVID-19
    Rank: 39th
    Median Age: 86.9 years old.

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  135. You know who doesn’t want their Christmas ruined? Palawhatever.

    The optics of 500 cases a day on Dec 25 flowing over the vaccinated only berlin wall border would really ruin Christmas for her.

    So you’ll have to wear masks just to be sure. Oh and look! Five unvaccinated people.

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  136. Qld CHO says its “antisocial” to not wear a mask in crowded settings.

    Then excludes pubs, clubs, theme parks from mask wearing.

    It is PalacechookScience.

    Ms D’Ath said masks would not be required in these venues.

    “Masks will not be required in pubs and clubs. Why? Because all of those venues require fully vaccinated people to be on-site,” she said.

    Very straightforward. But you do have to pay attention.

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  137. The hugest change in Australia since I were a lad is the takeover of all economic activity by government.

    Council in the bush town where I grew up used to do roads and that was it. Now they spend their time applying for handouts and keeping up with social programs like mental health for farmers, family violence, women’s sport, and geeing up the tourist trade with money from state and fed govt.

    Seriously, there would hardly be a business or organisation in this country that doesn’t depend upon govt patronage, subsidy or approval. It’s the breath of life now, and we’re all effed because of it.

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  138. Seriously though naturally and obviously the QLD CHO’s mission is a 95% vaccination rate. That is his primary, perhaps sole mission and everything is to achieve that.

    No doubt the previous CHO who spectacularly quit baulked at what he was told was going to be have to be done in the name of Science to achieve the mandated 95%.

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  139. So when punters pick up OhMyGosh from a Qld pub or club, full of the unstabbenated, to whom do they turn for redress?

    The monkey on the Science! bike can only peddle so fast.

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  140. So the story is that 100000 fully vaccinated people are flowing over the border bringing covid into QLD so everyone in qld has to wear masks except in places where there’s only fully vaccinated people with covid.

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  141. Omicron is on the loose, most likely out of any control so in 2022 we’ll have everyone who is going to get the coof, get it.
    People may start to wonder just what the last nearly two years has been about.

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  142. Found out this morning that there’s OhMyGosh lurking everywhere at the Bay. Understandably, lots of frail elderly and immunosuppressed are not wanting to venture old, poor buggers. Some of my elderly friends are masking up if the place is crowded. Their call.

    On the up-side a very large turn-out was reported for the Fly Point carols and crackers night – many…many families picnicking on the grassy slopes as well as the designated seating. People are just hungry to be normal again.

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  143. Bought a new portable air con (tube perished on the oldie & too old to get a replacement .. LOL!) .. 10 minute install took me 2 hours .. had to redo all the window stuff to fit the exhaust hose .. and how the bloody hell can anyone put a flexible plastic tube onto a thread fitting in a few minutes? .. gotta be a trick to it .. took me a good half hour!.. damn thing just kept unwinding itself .. duuuuuuh!

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  144. thefrollickingmolesays:

    December 17, 2021 at 1:51 pm

    Correct me if I am wrong, but aren’t welfare payments counted towards GDP?

    Transfer payments are not.

    Bushfire and cyclone recovery are “GDP Boosters”.
    So, if I burn my house down smoking in bed, and my insurer builds me a precise replica of the old house, that is a $400k GDP boost.
    For no net gain.

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  145. That’s irrational, Dot…

    It is rounded three depending if there is no dot – no decimal point.

    I myself have always been an exponent of natural logarithms.

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  146. So when punters pick up OhMyGosh from a Qld pub or club, full of the unstabbenated, to whom do they turn for redress?

    The punters will be mistaken, & have actually picked up the Wuflu from an unvaxxed leper out on the street or somewhere.

    It won’t have been anywhere Princess Anastacia has declared to be “safe”

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  147. Now they spend their time applying for handouts

    The Feraldton council had (and almost certainly still has) 2 people on the payroll whos job it is to apply for government grants.

    Id imagine every council in Australia over a certain size has the same.
    Thats 2 tax eaters on high 5 figure incomes whos sole job is to write in the tortured dialect of the pubes and beg for money.

    Dont believe me…

    https://www.seek.com.au/grant-writing-jobs

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  148. Another aspect to explore with QLD’s tame new CHO is that he was second pick.

    Imagine “training all your life for this moment”…and only getting the job by default when the other guy refused it.

    That’s going to play into his actions in weird and wonderful ways.

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  149. 10 minute install took me 2 hours

    In a few weeks, as the heat picks up offers no reprieve even at night, you will be telling yourself it was the second most important thing you have ever done.

    Second only to being born.

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  150. Bushfire and cyclone recovery are “GDP Boosters”.

    The Broken Window principle means all those places in the US where they raid shops in gangs and smash things up will be among the wealthiest places in the US.

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  151. The Broken Window principle means all those places in the US where they raid shops in gangs and smash things up will be among the wealthiest places in the US.

    No, no.
    The GDP has simply been relocated from the store to someone’s apartment.
    It still exists.
    And making all those replacement runners helps the GDP of Shitholistan where Nike have their sweatshops.

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  152. Indians cleaning the shit off the street in Bombay is an unexplored GDP bonanza. Import that industry at once!

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  153. Why would we do that, we have a bloke sitting in machine contraption on wheels doing it for us. Now that dude could be straight out of Bombay, but he’s not doing the sweeping- the machine is. He’s just driving it around. They’re neat, do you have any in queen’s land. Queen’s land, sounds a little on the gay side, but who am I to judge?

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  154. Why would we do that, we have a bloke sitting in machine contraption on wheels doing it for us.

    Nah. All tbose things collect is leaves, chip boxes and sparrow corpses…

  155. People are just hungry to be normal again.

    Well, they need to show it more actively, not just going on a picnic when government allows them.
    But they won’t. They will comply.

    I talked to a South African guy yesterday, who is here on a working visa. He’s going back home soon, because he refuses to get stabbed (his company can’t extend his visa because of this). Are there many people with strong convictions like this? I doubt that.

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  156. The laws of Queensland override the laws of science stuff.

    We already know Lord Waffleworth is not bound by the Laws of Physics.

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  157. Dotsays:
    December 17, 2021 at 1:36 pm
    Correct me if I am wrong, but aren’t welfare payments counted towards GDP?

    Transfer payments are not.

    But when the transfer payments are spent?

  158. Are there many people with strong convictions like this? I doubt that.

    I expect there are more than the media would want you to believe.

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  159. I expect there are more than the media would want you to believe.

    I hope so, but the question is – are there enough of them to stop this madness?

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  160. Well, that was fun.
    Went shopping with one of my T shirts on, emblem displayed on left breast.
    Refused service in 3 pubs.
    Allowed into IGA.
    Allowed into Chemist.
    Allowed into Butchers.
    (Didn’t particularly like doing it to the publicans, but the stand has to be made.)

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