Open Thread – Mon 13 Dec 2021


Sacred and Profane Love, Giovanni Baglione, 1602

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MatrixTransform
December 17, 2021 9:45 am

negative efficacy

exactly what was on my mind all week
now there’s nice chart that shows it.
sweet!

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 17, 2021 9:46 am

In a sane world this would be a big red alarm going “YOU ARE FUCKING UP” with lights & sirens thrown in.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-12-17/unions-react-myefo-economic-update-wage-growth-migration/100706990

In 2020-21, roughly 100,000 more people left Australia than moved here due to strict border policies.*

That trend is expected to continue this financial year, even as borders slowly open — with 41,000 more people to depart than arrive.

But in 2022-23, things will start to quickly turn around.

That year is expected to see 180,000 more people arrive than depart, followed by 213,000 the following year, and 235,000 in 2024-25.

To put that number in context, during the last “normal” year (2018-19), that number was 241,000.

And it has been much higher than that in the past — in 2008-09, it fell just short of 300,000.

TL/DR: The government is about to unleash the migration ponzi turned up to 11, the unions have noticed this tends to reduce wages pressures.

But in “Good news” the depreciation in buying power being currently caused by inflation will be over in 2022… according to the same mongs who caused it.

* Imagine misgoverning a continent so badly you have to import replacement populations because you are driving people out.

cohenite
December 17, 2021 9:49 am

Lot’s of macho skinny dipping last night with bush lawyer threats being flung around like lip-stick at Mardi Gras. Head prefect offered to Dot unlimited financial support, which is fine except for this:

What I offered Dot, who actually is a very decent person

That is incorrect head prefect. Dot is not decent because he has maligned Viking Steaks. As a man you must recognise this slur on masculinity. If you don’t next thing I suppose you’ll be wearing suspenders and crotch-less panties. It’s a slippery slope.

Roger
Roger
December 17, 2021 9:52 am

In a sane world this would be a big red alarm going “YOU ARE FUCKING UP” with lights & sirens thrown in.

I expectr Labor to make this a point of difference in the election campaign – their policies will be lower immigration and higher levels of skills & wages for locals.

Roger
Roger
December 17, 2021 10:01 am

Victor Davis Hanson making a lot of sense. “Democracy” for the left is getting their own way.

A report on Biden’s international “Democracy Summit” held last week:

Democracy, as Biden, Harris, and other speakers would have you believe, is more than just popular participation in a polity’s political process. It’s the continual expansion and exportation of abortion on demand, critical race theory, and loosely-defined racial equity; it is pervasive wokeness in private and public life. To these elites, democracy is both an intrinsic good, and also good only insofar as it achieves their radically autonomous ends.

RTWT

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
December 17, 2021 10:03 am

The decision to disallow the petroleum exploration lease off the NSW coast is monumental.

Dot, London to a brick most wouldn’t be locals. There are quite a few coal mines in the hinterland round the ‘gong.

I’d love to see Kean unseated by some green left indy… the guy represents all that is wrong with the Liberals.

Eyrie
Eyrie
December 17, 2021 10:11 am

No doubt immigration will increase GDP but what does it do for inflation adjusted per capita GDP?

Roger
Roger
December 17, 2021 10:12 am

The decision to disallow the petroleum exploration lease off the NSW coast is monumental.

Meanwhile, the QLD government has granted Origin Energy c. a dozen leases for fossil fuel exploration in the channel country. Still a couple of hoops to jump through but that’s the main one.

The usual suspects – “traditional owners”, environmentlaists & “Lock the Gate” are up in arms because they allegedly weren’t consulted, which is to say they weren’t granted a veto.

ABC aghast that “fracking” could be used.

will
will
December 17, 2021 10:23 am

does it do for inflation adjusted per capita GDP?

Nothing discernable, according to this

However that may be despite of, rather than because of.

It may have been far higher in the absence of this.

Another factor is that Australia’s immigration program has always had an emphasis on skills.

Woolfe
Woolfe
December 17, 2021 10:24 am

Here are some covid laughs If you need cheering up

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
December 17, 2021 10:25 am

Victor Davis Hanson making a lot of sense. “Democracy” for the left is getting their own way.

Same when they speak of bipartisanship.

“If you do what we want, then we will be working together.”

When in opposition it means throwing every obstacle in the way of the government while calling them blindly partisan. In government it means that the people have spoken and even in policies the public was never informed of beforehand the opposition must ‘hop on board’.

Our Liberal governments have a long history of bipartisanship, always finally coming around to Labor’s and the Green’s position.

lotocoti
lotocoti
December 17, 2021 10:26 am

Imagine the levels of retardation needed to look at Notre Dame, and thinking “This needs the front paving painted green and some cement shitting lions on Plinths to really jazz it up and give it some class.

That would be a change to modernists’ standard fare.

Roger
Roger
December 17, 2021 10:27 am

No doubt immigration will increase GDP…

To what extent? If minimal, what is the net benefit if other measures of quality of life are into account?

Across the board, what percentage of migrants pay more in tax than they receive in benefits, thus ensuring their presence is a net benefit to the host population?

How much do they send out of the country in remittances?

Has any economist probed the assumptions behind Treasury’s recent modelling that underpins the return to 160 000 per year?

So many questions…

MatrixTransform
December 17, 2021 10:31 am

* Imagine misgoverning a continent so badly you have to import replacement populations because you are driving people out.

this will be only feasable once the Soylent Green conveyors are commissioned.

Miltonf
Miltonf
December 17, 2021 10:36 am

Why does a canbra shiny bum outfit tasked with taking other people’s money and spending it determine our economic policy and priorities? Fuck ANU canbra Marxist parasites.

Miltonf
Miltonf
December 17, 2021 10:38 am

*fuck off canbra Marxist anu parasites

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
December 17, 2021 10:39 am

Dot, London to a brick most wouldn’t be locals. There are quite a few coal mines in the hinterland round the ‘gong.

Wasn’t that something that Abbott tried to change or actually change only for it to changed back by Trumble – to require people challenging proposed projects to demonstrate that they are in someway affected? People from Melbourne, for example, could not travel to QLD to complain about the Adani mine.

As it is you have morons live in a fantasy world where Gaia is alive and all living things (well, vertebrates and trees) rely upon their benign stewardship so even a tree frog in the Amazon is their urgent, even righteous, concern. And woe to any human who would interfere with a frog!

lotocoti
lotocoti
December 17, 2021 10:39 am

Looks like Norilsk could use some extra CO2.

Roger
Roger
December 17, 2021 10:45 am

Why does [Notre Dame] need to be brought up to date, wanker? It is an historic and holy building, not a kitchen.

It’s precisely because it’s a “historic and holy building” that it needs to be secularised.

The French Revolution is still playing out.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
December 17, 2021 10:47 am

Roger. Prize for the most clueless was a sticker I saw in a mine car park in Queensland. Protesting gas exploration in Channel Country. However this is the generation we deal with, quite a few of my collegues openly hold green left veiws that if I held I couldn’t reconcile with working in a coal mine.

P
P
December 17, 2021 10:48 am

Cardinal Pell Has One Question for Cardinal Becciu: ‘Will He Just Tell Us What the Money Was Sent for?’
National Catholic Register-Joan Frawley Desmond-December 16, 2021

The former prefect of the Vatican’s Secretariat for the Economy sat down for an interview on his three-volume ‘Prison Journal’ touching on his incarceration, Cardinal Becciu and Vatican finances.

I’m not confident of anything with the Vatican trial. I don’t know what’s going on. I’m not even entirely sure that it will go ahead. It might fail for legal reasons.

There’s no doubt that 2,300,000 [Australian dollars] was sent from the Vatican to Australia. Cardinal Becciu acknowledged that.

We just received the available recordings of the [Vatican] trial, and it looks as though Msgr. [Alberto] Perlasca, [the longtime investment manager for the Vatican], said under interrogation that the money was sent to the bishops’ conference in Australia for my legal defense. That’s certainly not true. We’ve asked the bishops’ conference, they received nothing. We certainly received nothing.

So I have one question for Cardinal Becciu: “Will he just tell us what the money was sent for?” And if it’s nothing to do with me or for entirely innocent purposes, good, I would be quite pleased, and we can get on with our lives.

Roger
Roger
December 17, 2021 10:49 am

The French Revolution is still playing out.

Note that the French government, not the Catholic Church, owns Notre Dame and the rest of France’s cathedrals. The fire has given them the excuse to further vandalise the building with the willing assistance, sadly, of a few leading Catholic iconoclasts in the mould of Vatican II.

Dot
Dot
December 17, 2021 10:50 am

As it is you have morons live in a fantasy world where Gaia is alive and all living things (well, vertebrates and trees) rely upon their benign stewardship so even a tree frog in the Amazon is their urgent, even righteous, concern. And woe to any human who would interfere with a frog!

Coming from concrete jungles, their embedded carbon footprint is massive.

All that matters is outcomes. Not feelings.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
December 17, 2021 10:50 am

ML. Yes, IMO didn’t go far enough but was a start. Was DOA as Turnbull knifed Abbott.

Roger
Roger
December 17, 2021 10:52 am

However this is the generation we deal with, quite a few of my collegues openly hold green left veiws that if I held I couldn’t reconcile with working in a coal mine.

But the pay is good.

Moral cowardice…a lot of it about these days.

Dot
Dot
December 17, 2021 10:52 am

How much do they send out of the country in remittances?

Are irrelevant. What matters is if you are on welfare.

Roger
Roger
December 17, 2021 10:57 am

Mask mandate effective in QLD from 1.00am tomorrow.

Round and round we go and when we stop nobody knows.

If my wife and I could be sure they won’t close the borders again or introduce some draconian restrictions on returnees we’d be cancelling our QLD beachside holiday and heading down to Sydney. Still may cancel anyway.

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
December 17, 2021 10:58 am

How much do they send out of the country in remittances?

Got mates married to Philo’s & Thai’s. If parents are farmers or retired remittances are the norm. That whole part of the world including the sub continent has a large part of their young population working overseas as mechanics or housekeeping staff.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 17, 2021 10:59 am

Looks like Norilsk could use some extra CO2.

They just lurve greens in Norilsk. A nickel and cobalt town. Nickel has been around US$20k per tonne and cobalt is a sweet $70k per tonne. All those batteries don’t make themselves.

Dot
Dot
December 17, 2021 11:05 am

Mask mandate effective in QLD from 1.00am tomorrow.

Science! (TM).

In NSW, you can only catch COVID on a plane…

Roger
Roger
December 17, 2021 11:08 am

If parents are farmers or retired remittances are the norm.

I understand that and nothing against it, Rockdoctor, but for some countries remittances can account for 5% or more of GDP! There are going to be pros and cons in that situation for the receiving country.

Pogria
Pogria
December 17, 2021 11:12 am

The filthy bush pig is milking the tragedy.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 17, 2021 11:13 am

I think Brett Finch is a golfer of some kind.

He is Joe Burns brother-in-law. Any other questions?

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 17, 2021 11:16 am

Pallashay on the new(ish) Qld mask mandate (the CM):

‘‘This is a small price to pay for your freedoms’, she said.’

Steely-eyed plain-talkers from Australia’s last holdout won’t stand for this.

lotocoti
lotocoti
December 17, 2021 11:17 am

Mask mandate effective in QLD from 1.00am tomorrow.
Science! (TM).

Not necessarily Science!(TM).
Anna, the Mother of All Queenssslanders, might have someone on the inside,
passing on Omicron’s dastardly plans.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 17, 2021 11:17 am

If my wife and I could be sure they won’t close the borders again or introduce some draconian restrictions on returnees we’d be cancelling our QLD beachside holiday and heading down to Sydney. Still may cancel anyway.

The problem for Queensssland tourism in a nutshell.
Uncertainty.
Pony Girl and her advisers still believe their “pilot light” and “snapback” rhetoric.
You don’t reckon our competing markets (Fiji, Bali, Hawaii) aren’t poisoning the wells about Queensssland being high risk.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
December 17, 2021 11:20 am

Totally unexpected. A bolt from the blue. Inconceivable.

Former Wallabies captain David Pocock will run as an independent Senate candidate in the ACT at next year’s federal election on a platform of “bold” climate change action, integrity and a constitutionally enshrined Indigenous voice to parliament.

The former rugby union player who says he currently has “zero dollars” in his campaign account said he would not rule out accepting donations from investor Simon Holmes a Court’s Climate 200 activist group.

Old School Conservative
Old School Conservative
December 17, 2021 11:24 am

The former rugby union player who says he currently has “zero dollars” in his campaign account

A bit sad for a bloke who until very recently was earning $750,000 p.a.

Roger
Roger
December 17, 2021 11:25 am

The problem for Queensssland tourism in a nutshell.

What’s left of it.

Cyclone Anna has wreaked more destruction than Yasi did.

Tom
Tom
December 17, 2021 11:30 am

‘‘This is a small price to pay for your freedoms’, she said.

PS: if the idiots will take this up the arse, imagine what else they’ll fall for.

In the shit between leftards’ ears, compliance (giving up your freedom) is freedom.

No wonder she’s barren. Getting her pregnant would be child abuse.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 17, 2021 11:34 am

No wonder she’s barren. Getting her pregnant would be child abuse.

George Megagenius was not up to the job (the first of many).

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 17, 2021 11:34 am

I’d call Anna a spanner, but she doesn’t make my nuts tighten.

Roger
Roger
December 17, 2021 11:34 am

The former rugby union player who says he currently has “zero dollars” in his campaign account

A bit sad for a bloke who until very recently was earning $750,000 p.a.

Or he’s just not willing to back himself with his own money.

dopey
dopey
December 17, 2021 11:42 am

“I think Brett Finch is a golfer of some kind.” No, that’s Brett Lee.

Lysander
Lysander
December 17, 2021 11:42 am

McGowan Cabinet reshuffle today… Health Minister getting the boot…

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 17, 2021 11:45 am

Eyriesays:
December 17, 2021 at 10:11 am
No doubt immigration will increase GDP but what does it do for inflation adjusted per capita GDP?

Nothing good.

Roger
Roger
December 17, 2021 11:46 am

‘‘This is a small price to pay for your freedoms’, she said.

Anna spins it more than the GOAT.

John of Mel
John of Mel
December 17, 2021 11:46 am

What if I don’t have a phone? Is the .gov going to give me one?

Phone? Who needs phones?

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 17, 2021 11:47 am

Will

Another factor is that Australia’s immigration program has always had an emphasis on skills.

As demonstrated by Fraser’s “Lebanese concession”?

Roger
Roger
December 17, 2021 11:53 am

Another factor is that Australia’s immigration program has always had an emphasis on skills.

Skilled migrants will make up less than 50% of the 2021-22 intake.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 17, 2021 11:54 am

Old School Conservativesays:
December 17, 2021 at 11:24 am
The former rugby union player who says he currently has “zero dollars” in his campaign account

A bit sad for a bloke who until very recently was earning $750,000 p.a.

Steady on! Surely you don’t think that he will be using his money?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 17, 2021 11:55 am

Mushroom news.

Deadly ‘black fungus’ disease spotted in Americans with COVID-19 (16 Dec)

Many cases were severe—four patients showed disease that had spread to the nose and mouth, with three of those patients also having the brain affected. In two cases, the illness attacked the lungs, and in one case the gastrointestinal system was affected, Gold’s team said.

None of the patients had been vaccinated against the new coronavirus.

There you go, the unclean will be colonized by fungus. OTOH given how the MSM so keenly keeps us in the dark and feeds us so much, er, fertilizer, these patients should do very well.

Roger
Roger
December 17, 2021 11:55 am

As demonstrated by Fraser’s “Lebanese concession”?

Well it was certainly a boon to the organised crime sector.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 17, 2021 11:56 am

Roger

Snap!

JC
JC
December 17, 2021 11:56 am

B John

Per capita in constant dollars is quite good. In fact it’s one of the highest in the world if not the highest after ignoring the Gulf states. It’s in US dollars which is the only real currency that counts

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/NYGDPPCAPKDAUS

Ironically, the trend line kept going higher as we reformed the economy.

So much for we make nafink.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 17, 2021 11:59 am

dopeysays:

December 17, 2021 at 11:42 am

“I think Brett Finch is a golfer of some kind.” No, that’s Brett Lee.

No.
Brett Lee has a chain of appliance stores.
Brett Finch is definitely a golfer with the yips and a collection of antique cars.
Red ones.

Roger
Roger
December 17, 2021 12:02 pm

‘‘This is a small price to pay for your freedoms’, she said.

Mask up or you’ll be locked out and locked down, warns the Ukrainian.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 17, 2021 12:03 pm

I read that Gillard has received an honorary doctorate in law from RMIT. Not bad for someone who ended their legal career as a junior partner in an exit interview explaining how she jeopardised a major client relationship after being in a relationship with one of their thug employees. Strange world.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 17, 2021 12:04 pm

So much for we make nafink.

We don’t make much nafink, but our nafink is top quality.
World class nafink.

JC
JC
December 17, 2021 12:05 pm

One also needs to kind of ignore or adjust for those smaller European countries which show outsized GDP , such as Switzerland and Luxembourg etc. The reason is that they have lots of foreign workers who live over the border and work in these countries during the day. It creates a problem accounting for GDP because those foreigners work in those places but don’t live there. Therefore GDP per capita is distorted by these fewer people who produce but aren’t counted .

For a place that makes nafink and has experienced very high levels of immigration we’ve done okay. Perhaps it needs to be lowered for social reasons but the economics doesn’t reflect this need as overwhelming.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 17, 2021 12:06 pm

Pony Girl, “Don’t make me have to do this.” I’m phoning White Ribbon and Andrew O’Keefe.

lotocoti
lotocoti
December 17, 2021 12:06 pm

An interesting view of the coronapanic from a UK perspective.
Did a little rummaging around and Ben Irvine isn’t just some random nutter.
Don’t be Shy, Tories looks interesting.

Those who believe in freedom and personal responsibility should take personal responsibility for defending freedom. In this long polemical essay, philosopher Ben Irvine calls on conservatives to be more confident in their views, and more active in promoting them. While recounting his own journey as a conservative intellectual, Irvine diagnoses what went wrong for conservatism in the UK, and offers a few tips on how to set things right.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 17, 2021 12:09 pm

Australia has a thriving backyard tabbouleh sector and Commodore rebirthing program.

JC
JC
December 17, 2021 12:09 pm

Whoops

Work but don’t live there.

cohenite
December 17, 2021 12:10 pm

I read that Gillard has received an honorary doctorate in law from RMIT. Not bad for someone who ended their legal career as a junior partner in an exit interview explaining how she jeopardised a major client relationship after being in a relationship with one of their thug employees. Strange world.

Read all about it here. The slapper is living proof there is no justice.

Roger
Roger
December 17, 2021 12:10 pm

I read that Gillard has received an honorary doctorate in law from RMIT. Not bad for someone who ended their legal career as a junior partner in an exit interview explaining how she jeopardised a major client relationship after being in a relationship with one of their thug employees. Strange world.

This is an institution that employs Rob Hulls to head up its ‘Centre for Innovative Justice’.

Innovative justice…I suppose that’s one term for what the Victorian courts dish out.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 17, 2021 12:11 pm

Does Claire Lehmann have any idea?

What an open ended question.

JC
JC
December 17, 2021 12:11 pm

Dover

It’s America, as you know you need an escape clause for people talking a slash in a halfway public toilet

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 17, 2021 12:15 pm

There you go, the unclean will be colonized by fungus. OTOH given how the MSM so keenly keeps us in the dark and feeds us so much, er, fertilizer, these patients should do very well.

Ive read this one, Id prefer not to go there.

Tintarella di Luna
Tintarella di Luna
December 17, 2021 12:15 pm

I read that Gillard has received an honorary doctorate in law from RMIT. Not bad for someone who ended their legal career as a junior partner in an exit interview explaining how she jeopardised a major client relationship after being in a relationship with one of their thug employees. Strange world.

And shortly thereafter handed in her practising certificate and has not been able to practice law since. Amazing eh?

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 17, 2021 12:26 pm

JC at 12:05.
Are you saying that my Swiss watch might have been made by a Frenchman and my Lindor balls might have been fondled by a German.
Mein Gott and Sacre Bleu!

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 17, 2021 12:29 pm

I read that Gillard has received an honorary doctorate in law from RMIT.

Goes with the lefty territory.

DC Bar Reinstates Ex-FBI Lawyer Who Admitted Altering Russia Probe Email (16 Dec)

Former FBI attorney Kevin Clinesmith, who altered an email during the Russia investigation that was used to justify the surveillance of former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page, has been reinstated as a member “in good standing” to the District of Columbia Bar Association, reports Real Clear Investigations.

Clinesmith pleaded guilty in August 2021 to falsifying the document during the early stages of the FBI’s probe into Russia interference in the 2016 presidential election and potential ties to the Trump campaign.

Only class-enemies lose their law licenses.

Roger
Roger
December 17, 2021 12:30 pm

And shortly thereafter handed in her practising certificate and has not been able to practice law since. Amazing eh?

What’s more amazing is that for c. 7 years she could make laws.

JC
JC
December 17, 2021 12:35 pm

Sancho Panzer says:
December 17, 2021 at 12:26 pm
JC at 12:05.
Are you saying that my Swiss watch might have been made by a Frenchman and my Lindor balls might have been fondled by a German.
Mein Gott and Sacre Bleu!

Yes, the Swiss are just money gnomes in
Zurich. They make nafink. It’s the Germans, frogs, Italians who make sumfink there. 🙂

Winston Smith
December 17, 2021 12:36 pm

Gab:

Of course they are going to protestanise Notre Dame Cathedral. Anything But Catholic for the modernists.

Bloody vandals.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 17, 2021 12:40 pm

Re the Cernovich tweet on the side bar, if the vaccines are safe and the adverse effects are rare, why does Pfizer, for instance, require as a matter of necessity for their mass distribution, an indemnity clause?

To be fair, Dover, J&J just had a court case upheld against them for squillions.

Supreme Court rejects J&J request to halt talcum powder suit (14 Dec)

That deadly deadly material known as baby powder. Worse than plutonium. If I was Pfizer I’d be writing iron-clad indemnity clauses too.

(All this stuff is complete rubbish. But I’m not the poor CEO making out the cheques to these gold diggers.)

Twostix
Twostix
December 17, 2021 12:51 pm

I said the new qld cho is a dangerous ideologue.

So first thing he does is gins up a mob:

“Mask wearing is not just about protecting yourself, it is also protect about protecting others,” he said.

“It works both ways, so it is a socially desirable thing to be wearing a mask and I think it’s somewhat anti-social to not be wearing a mask in crowded environments.”

But then:

The mandate won’t apply in venues where a vaccine mandate came into effect from 5am on Friday such as cafes, restaurants, nightclubs, stadiums and theme parks.

Dangerous man playing with fire.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 17, 2021 12:52 pm

Yes, the Swiss are just money gnomes in
Zurich. They make nafink. It’s the Germans, frogs, Italians who make sumfink there. 

So there is a fair chance my Swiss Army knife might have been assembled by … gasp! … Italians!
Inconceivable!

Twostix
Twostix
December 17, 2021 12:55 pm

So egghead QLD cho has declared masks mandatory in QLD retail until people get vaccinated to the correct number.

Remember when they lifted implemented the previous mask mandates and said at 80% they’d be lifted because 80‰ was the magical reward number?

Surprise!

Twostix
Twostix
December 17, 2021 12:59 pm

Qld nakedly attempting to ruin Christmas for everyone and linking it to vaccination numbers.

Hoping a mob will form against hold outs.

So obvious.

Top Ender
Top Ender
December 17, 2021 1:00 pm

Chairman Dan’s personality revealed:

Adem Somyurek leaks details of Daniel Andrews cabinet meetings

RACHEL BAXENDALE
VICTORIAN POLITICAL REPORTER

Former Labor powerbroker and Andrews government minister Adem Somyurek has leaked details of cabinet meetings in which he was involved, claiming the Premier begins every meeting by seeking praise for his social media strategy.

Mr Somyurek’s Twitter spray comes after an investigation into branch-stacking allegations against his former ALP faction was used by powerbrokers as a pretext for effectively ending the state political careers of five of his former allies, as well as two other factionally isolated MPs not implicated in the scandal.

“First item on the agenda every Cabinet meeting is the size of Dans (sic) online performance,” Mr Somyurek tweeted on Thursday.

“It is a ritual that bores all ministers and interferes with the business of government. But ministers shut up – lest they offend the mad king. Dans (sic) private office contains a social media unit.”

Mr Somyurek said the Premier would then call on a “senior female adviser” to report on his online performance.

“The adviser reports glowingly about Dans (sic) big reach, comparing the size of Dans (sic) reach with the size of the PMs and other premiers in what is a weekly reach measuring contest.

“As the adviser breaks down every tweet, every Facebook post and proclaims Dan popularity, Dan leans back in his chair with hands clasped behind his head scans the room with pride looking for acknowledgment and praise from ministers of his big reach.”

Mr Somyurek said the Premier would then invite feedback from ministers, with those aligned with his own Socialist Left faction “quick off the block” and “effusive in their praise of their ‘dear leaders’ ‘massive’ reach.”

“Out of fear of being purged Right ministers reluctantly follow. As the adviser returns to her seat, she is often seen rolling her eyes.”

Mr Andrews has more than a million followers on Facebook — more than 200,000 more than Prime Minister Scott Morrison — having spent almost $800,000 of taxpayers’ money in his first five years in power to promote his page on the social media platform.

He has a combined 1.7 million followers across Facebook, Twitter, Instagram and TikTok.

In September, his former social media strategist Eloise Young revealed community engagement on the Premier’s platforms soared up to 451 per cent as the pandemic hit Victoria during the state’s extended 2020 lockdown.

The Premier’s office declined to comment.

Herald-Sun

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

So egghead QLD cho has declared masks mandatory in QLD retail until people get vaccinated to the correct number.

How stupid is the Ukrainian?
Masks are not required for: bar staff, office staff, kitchen staff.

However, Bottleshop staff do have to wear a mask.
An outdoors job, non-stop exertion, heavy breathing never ends.

You couldn’t make up this level of stupidity.

P
P
December 17, 2021 1:07 pm

Perth cathedral to host vaccination clinics

The clinics at St Mary’s Cathedral will operate this weekend and again on January 8 and 9 (The eRecord/WA Government)

Perth Archbishop Timothy Costelloe SDB has approved two pop-up COVID-19 vaccination clinics to be held at St Mary’s Cathedral, echoing Pope Francis’ call for people to be vaccinated as “an act of love”. Source: The eRecord.

areff
areff
December 17, 2021 1:12 pm

Airport altercation. All this clip lacks is Jack Little and Domenic Denucci. Love the girl who tries to wield the stanchion.

https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1471531785917972486

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 17, 2021 1:16 pm

JC

Per capita in constant dollars is quite good. In fact it’s one of the highest in the world if not the highest after ignoring the Gulf states. It’s in US dollars which is the only real currency that counts

Correct me if I am wrong, but aren’t welfare payments counted towards GDP? If so, then Fraser’s “Lebanese concession” increased GDP? And bringing in unemployables, and putting them on welfare also does?

Winston Smith
December 17, 2021 1:21 pm

Bruce of Newcastle:

Stupid people. It’s hard enough to get nurses and GPs now. Once 31 Jan rolls around that will become much worse. And it will make approximately zero difference to Covid infections, plus add many more to the vax injury list.

You need to see this through the eyes of the sort of person who works in Health Administration, Bruce.
They will be looking at the budget bottom line and saying to themselves “How good will this look in my resume!”
This attitude is the same as the one that sacks senior staff with 20+ years of experience, replaces them with imported nurses with bugger all experience, then complains about the cost of the lawsuits after patients get crippled or die.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 17, 2021 1:24 pm

Love the girl who tries to wield the stanchion.

When you are travelling by plane and your regular armaments are unavailable, the the steel bollard in the airport terminal can be used with lethal effect.

Zipster
December 17, 2021 1:28 pm

Evolutionary Cul-de-Sac SPEEDING Western Decline
Black Pigeon Speaks

more and more are noticing the west is in terminal decline

Dot
Dot
December 17, 2021 1:36 pm

Correct me if I am wrong, but aren’t welfare payments counted towards GDP?

Transfer payments are not.

Dot
Dot
December 17, 2021 1:38 pm

In September, his former social media strategist Eloise Young revealed community engagement on the Premier’s platforms soared up to 451 per cent as the pandemic hit Victoria during the state’s extended 2020 lockdown.

LOL

Chinese click farms.

Dot
Dot
December 17, 2021 1:39 pm

Seriously, who actually bought Gladys Berejiklian all of those flowers?

Yep, beloved like Princess Diana.

Dot
Dot
December 17, 2021 1:41 pm

Perth Archbishop Timothy Costelloe SDB has approved two pop-up COVID-19 vaccination clinics to be held at St Mary’s Cathedral, echoing Pope Francis’ call for people to be vaccinated as “an act of love”. Source: The eRecord.

What is the based Orthodox church’s number?

Hello, based department?

hzhousewife
hzhousewife
December 17, 2021 1:42 pm

Seriously, who actually bought Gladys Berejiklian all of those flowers?

Yep, beloved like Princess Diana.

Golly gosh, for a moment there I wondered if she had dropped dead !!!!!!

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
December 17, 2021 1:45 pm

UKHSA Week 50 data is in and 18-29 have joined the older age groups – except 70 and above that are largely boosted now – in negative efficacy. In other words, the vaxxed are experiencing higher rates of infection than the unvaxxed.

The UKHSA data actually makes a strong case for vaccination in the 60+ age group – and most certainly for the 70+ cohort.

As Eugippius tells us, the apparent death rate for the 70+ unvaxxed is about 3x that of the vaxxed. For the 60+ unvaxxed it’s about 4x.

Although Eugippius doesn’t appear to have done the calculation, the raw death numbers also reflect this benefit: the unvaxxed make up only ~5% of the 70+ cohort – yet make up 14% of total deaths in that group.

Similarly for the 60 to 69 cohort: unvaxxed ~7%; unvaxxed as proportion of deaths 25%.

In terms of severe cases, Eugippius tells us that the unvaxxed make up “only” 48% of the reported patients in UK critical care. However he forgets to mention that the unvaxxed also only make up between ~5% and ~20% of the ‘at risk’ population (ie the over 50’s). So, there’s somewhere between a 2.5x to 10x+ over-representation of the unjabbed in the ICU.

Negative efficacy” seems to be a user-defined term.

JC
JC
December 17, 2021 1:45 pm

B John

Welfare, like all government transfers are counted once so its “production” is not double counting. It’s distributed and that’s how it would be picked up. Have a look at the GDP equation and just consider “ government” as part of production because government doesn’t produce anything. It just takes from the private sector to satisfy “unmet needs”.

JC
JC
December 17, 2021 1:46 pm

Dot

Welfare transfers are part of government in the GDP equation , no?

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
December 17, 2021 1:47 pm

Pallashay on the new(ish) Qld mask mandate (the CM):

‘‘This is a small price to pay for your freedoms’, she said.’

Or:

“Freedom is slavery!”

“He gazed up at the enormous bloated face. Forty years it had taken him to learn what kind of smile was hidden in the long dark parabolic shadow under the nose. O cruel, needless misunderstanding! O stubborn, self-willed exile from the loving breast! Two gin-scented tears trickled down to be dampen the top of his face mask. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Palaszczuk.”

Dot
Dot
December 17, 2021 1:49 pm

government transfers are counted

government transfers are NOT counted

Virgin market monetarism vs Chad Austrian school meme intensifies!

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 17, 2021 1:51 pm

Correct me if I am wrong, but aren’t welfare payments counted towards GDP?

Transfer payments are not.

I thought Id google for a simple yes/no….

Apparently the answer is NO!? definitely….not?

Lots of people spruiking an increase in welfare payments as a boost to GDP (via spending) though.

Dot
Dot
December 17, 2021 1:52 pm

Government services to administer transfer payments do count.

LOL

JC
JC
December 17, 2021 1:53 pm

Okay Dot.

Let’s be difficult. Where are welfare payments in the GDP. Is it government or left as part of production?

JC
JC
December 17, 2021 1:54 pm

Government services to administer transfer payments do count.

LOL

You’re kidding, right?

John H.
John H.
December 17, 2021 1:56 pm

Dr Faustussays:

In terms of severe cases, Eugippius tells us that the unvaxxed make up “only” 48% of the reported patients in UK critical care. However he forgets to mention that the unvaxxed also only make up between ~5% and ~20% of the ‘at risk’ population (ie the over 50’s). So, there’s somewhere between a 2.5x to 10x+ over-representation of the unjabbed in the ICU.

“Negative efficacy” seems to be a user-defined term.

You are too kind.
Eugippius didn’t forget, he deliberately forgot to mention that to support his narrative.
I’m not kind. He is a bullshit artist.

Eyrie
Eyrie
December 17, 2021 2:03 pm

You are too kind.
Eugippius didn’t forget, he deliberately forgot to mention that to support his narrative.
I’m not kind. He is a bullshit artist.

Can you please elucidate, John H.?

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

So far today we’ve turned away Three out of every Four people who’ve wanted to enter the pub.

#vaccinemandate
#itsforyourowngood
#welovePalaszczuk
#Annlovesme
#uncleanunvaxxedlepers

Jorge
Jorge
December 17, 2021 2:05 pm

First item on the agenda every Cabinet meeting is the size of Dans (sic) online performance,” Mr Somyurek tweeted on Thursday.

Sounds like Keef talking about Mick’s ‘tiny todger’.

Twostix
Twostix
December 17, 2021 2:07 pm

Qld CHO says its “antisocial” to not wear a mask in crowded settings.

Then excludes pubs, clubs, theme parks from mask wearing.

Because Science!(tm)

Oh come on
Oh come on
December 17, 2021 2:09 pm
incoherent rambler
incoherent rambler
December 17, 2021 2:10 pm

Because Science!(tm)

The laws of Queensland override the laws of science stuff.

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
December 17, 2021 2:12 pm

The ABC campaigning today for suppression of political dissent, in this case from a pro-life pregnancy support group
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-12-17/hcscc-investigates-birthline-over-unclear-termination-stance/100708014

And campaigning to loosen the restrictions on granny-killing in Victoria.

Roger
Roger
December 17, 2021 2:12 pm

Perth Archbishop Timothy Costelloe SDB has approved two pop-up COVID-19 vaccination clinics to be held at St Mary’s Cathedral, echoing Pope Francis’ call for people to be vaccinated as “an act of love”.

Does this mean not getting vaxxed is a sin of omission?

A selfish failure to “act in love” towards my neighbour?

Only if the vaccines actually worked to prevent transmission.

And so the house that Francis built turns out to be based on sand.

But, by all means, continue to curry favour with the authorities, Your Grace.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 17, 2021 2:14 pm

John H.says:
December 17, 2021 at 1:56 pm

Dont care, cant care.
2 years of government thuggery renders any other measurement or statistics irrelevant,.

In you critique of “a bullshit artist” did you manage to find how many people have been irreversibly damaged by the lockdowns and various restrictions?
Surely thats a burning issue since you care…so…much…

Heres a few places to start.

Child and youth mental health problems have doubled during COVID-19

MELBOURNE VACANCY RATES HIT 20-YEAR HIGH AS DEMAND HITS RECORD LOW

Then theres this mystery, wrapped in an enigma hidden inside a beagle
https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/health/causes-death/causes-death-australia/latest-release
In 2020:

There was a 23.9% decrease in the age-standardised death rate from respiratory diseases.
Influenza and pneumonia mortality had the highest proportional rate decrease of all respiratory diseases with a drop of 45.8% from 2019.
There were 55 people who died from influenza. This compares to 1,080 in 2019.
Pneumonia is also a common terminal cause of death, especially for older people who have long term chronic conditions. There was a decrease of more than 20% in influenza and pneumonia as an associated cause of death (where it was not the underlying cause of death).
The decrease in the respiratory disease death rate from 2019 is the largest recorded over the last ten years.

its almost like the coof being excluded from the usual cause of death for the elderly migth, just might be the reason for the decrease?

Naaah, lock everything down, 24/7 fear porn and lurch into the 3rd year of a state of emergency granting unlimited powers to the politicians.
Thats bound to make things better.

Causes of death Oz 2020..
COVID-19
Rank: 39th
Median Age: 86.9 years old.

Twostix
Twostix
December 17, 2021 2:15 pm

You know who doesn’t want their Christmas ruined? Palawhatever.

The optics of 500 cases a day on Dec 25 flowing over the vaccinated only berlin wall border would really ruin Christmas for her.

So you’ll have to wear masks just to be sure. Oh and look! Five unvaccinated people.

Dr Faustus
Dr Faustus
December 17, 2021 2:21 pm

Qld CHO says its “antisocial” to not wear a mask in crowded settings.

Then excludes pubs, clubs, theme parks from mask wearing.

It is PalacechookScience.

Ms D’Ath said masks would not be required in these venues.

“Masks will not be required in pubs and clubs. Why? Because all of those venues require fully vaccinated people to be on-site,” she said.

Very straightforward. But you do have to pay attention.

Jorge
Jorge
December 17, 2021 2:21 pm

The hugest change in Australia since I were a lad is the takeover of all economic activity by government.

Council in the bush town where I grew up used to do roads and that was it. Now they spend their time applying for handouts and keeping up with social programs like mental health for farmers, family violence, women’s sport, and geeing up the tourist trade with money from state and fed govt.

Seriously, there would hardly be a business or organisation in this country that doesn’t depend upon govt patronage, subsidy or approval. It’s the breath of life now, and we’re all effed because of it.

Dot
Dot
December 17, 2021 2:23 pm

You’re kidding, right?

No.

Keynesianism is like burying jars of coins as an employment programme.

Dot
Dot
December 17, 2021 2:24 pm

Pi is exactly three!

It’s okay. There is a bill before Parliament to confirm this fact.

Twostix
Twostix
December 17, 2021 2:26 pm

Seriously though naturally and obviously the QLD CHO’s mission is a 95% vaccination rate. That is his primary, perhaps sole mission and everything is to achieve that.

No doubt the previous CHO who spectacularly quit baulked at what he was told was going to be have to be done in the name of Science to achieve the mandated 95%.

calli
calli
December 17, 2021 2:28 pm

So when punters pick up OhMyGosh from a Qld pub or club, full of the unstabbenated, to whom do they turn for redress?

The monkey on the Science! bike can only peddle so fast.

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
December 17, 2021 2:29 pm

Pi is exactly three!

That’s irrational, Dot…

Twostix
Twostix
December 17, 2021 2:29 pm

So the story is that 100000 fully vaccinated people are flowing over the border bringing covid into QLD so everyone in qld has to wear masks except in places where there’s only fully vaccinated people with covid.

calli
calli
December 17, 2021 2:29 pm

That would be the enstabbenated.

I can’t even spell my made up words properly.

Eyrie
Eyrie
December 17, 2021 2:32 pm

Omicron is on the loose, most likely out of any control so in 2022 we’ll have everyone who is going to get the coof, get it.
People may start to wonder just what the last nearly two years has been about.

calli
calli
December 17, 2021 2:34 pm

Found out this morning that there’s OhMyGosh lurking everywhere at the Bay. Understandably, lots of frail elderly and immunosuppressed are not wanting to venture old, poor buggers. Some of my elderly friends are masking up if the place is crowded. Their call.

On the up-side a very large turn-out was reported for the Fly Point carols and crackers night – many…many families picnicking on the grassy slopes as well as the designated seating. People are just hungry to be normal again.

shatterzzz
December 17, 2021 2:34 pm

Bought a new portable air con (tube perished on the oldie & too old to get a replacement .. LOL!) .. 10 minute install took me 2 hours .. had to redo all the window stuff to fit the exhaust hose .. and how the bloody hell can anyone put a flexible plastic tube onto a thread fitting in a few minutes? .. gotta be a trick to it .. took me a good half hour!.. damn thing just kept unwinding itself .. duuuuuuh!

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 17, 2021 2:35 pm

thefrollickingmolesays:

December 17, 2021 at 1:51 pm

Correct me if I am wrong, but aren’t welfare payments counted towards GDP?

Transfer payments are not.

Bushfire and cyclone recovery are “GDP Boosters”.
So, if I burn my house down smoking in bed, and my insurer builds me a precise replica of the old house, that is a $400k GDP boost.
For no net gain.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
December 17, 2021 2:35 pm

That’s irrational, Dot…

It is rounded three depending if there is no dot – no decimal point.

I myself have always been an exponent of natural logarithms.

calli
calli
December 17, 2021 2:35 pm

venture old out

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

So when punters pick up OhMyGosh from a Qld pub or club, full of the unstabbenated, to whom do they turn for redress?

The punters will be mistaken, & have actually picked up the Wuflu from an unvaxxed leper out on the street or somewhere.

It won’t have been anywhere Princess Anastacia has declared to be “safe”

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 17, 2021 2:37 pm

Now they spend their time applying for handouts

The Feraldton council had (and almost certainly still has) 2 people on the payroll whos job it is to apply for government grants.

Id imagine every council in Australia over a certain size has the same.
Thats 2 tax eaters on high 5 figure incomes whos sole job is to write in the tortured dialect of the pubes and beg for money.

Dont believe me…

https://www.seek.com.au/grant-writing-jobs

Twostix
Twostix
December 17, 2021 2:38 pm

Another aspect to explore with QLD’s tame new CHO is that he was second pick.

Imagine “training all your life for this moment”…and only getting the job by default when the other guy refused it.

That’s going to play into his actions in weird and wonderful ways.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
December 17, 2021 2:40 pm

10 minute install took me 2 hours

In a few weeks, as the heat picks up offers no reprieve even at night, you will be telling yourself it was the second most important thing you have ever done.

Second only to being born.

Mother Lode
Mother Lode
December 17, 2021 2:42 pm

Bushfire and cyclone recovery are “GDP Boosters”.

The Broken Window principle means all those places in the US where they raid shops in gangs and smash things up will be among the wealthiest places in the US.

Sancho Panzer
Sancho Panzer
December 17, 2021 2:50 pm

The Broken Window principle means all those places in the US where they raid shops in gangs and smash things up will be among the wealthiest places in the US.

No, no.
The GDP has simply been relocated from the store to someone’s apartment.
It still exists.
And making all those replacement runners helps the GDP of Shitholistan where Nike have their sweatshops.

Twostix
Twostix
December 17, 2021 2:53 pm

Indians cleaning the shit off the street in Bombay is an unexplored GDP bonanza. Import that industry at once!

JC
JC
December 17, 2021 3:07 pm

Why would we do that, we have a bloke sitting in machine contraption on wheels doing it for us. Now that dude could be straight out of Bombay, but he’s not doing the sweeping- the machine is. He’s just driving it around. They’re neat, do you have any in queen’s land. Queen’s land, sounds a little on the gay side, but who am I to judge?

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 17, 2021 3:13 pm

So Chairman Dan is a social media size queen? Anyone surprised?

Rex Anger
Rex Anger
December 17, 2021 3:14 pm

Why would we do that, we have a bloke sitting in machine contraption on wheels doing it for us.

Nah. All tbose things collect is leaves, chip boxes and sparrow corpses…

John of Mel
John of Mel
December 17, 2021 3:15 pm

People are just hungry to be normal again.

Well, they need to show it more actively, not just going on a picnic when government allows them.
But they won’t. They will comply.

I talked to a South African guy yesterday, who is here on a working visa. He’s going back home soon, because he refuses to get stabbed (his company can’t extend his visa because of this). Are there many people with strong convictions like this? I doubt that.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 17, 2021 3:16 pm

The laws of Queensland override the laws of science stuff.

We already know Lord Waffleworth is not bound by the Laws of Physics.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 17, 2021 3:18 pm

Dotsays:
December 17, 2021 at 1:36 pm
Correct me if I am wrong, but aren’t welfare payments counted towards GDP?

Transfer payments are not.

But when the transfer payments are spent?

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 17, 2021 3:18 pm

Are there many people with strong convictions like this? I doubt that.

I expect there are more than the media would want you to believe.

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 17, 2021 3:20 pm

JC

Thanks.

John of Mel
John of Mel
December 17, 2021 3:22 pm

I expect there are more than the media would want you to believe.

I hope so, but the question is – are there enough of them to stop this madness?

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 17, 2021 3:26 pm

I hope so, but the question is – are there enough of them to stop this madness?

Not yet.

Winston Smith
December 17, 2021 3:29 pm

Well, that was fun.
Went shopping with one of my T shirts on, emblem displayed on left breast.
Refused service in 3 pubs.
Allowed into IGA.
Allowed into Chemist.
Allowed into Butchers.
(Didn’t particularly like doing it to the publicans, but the stand has to be made.)

Boambee John
Boambee John
December 17, 2021 3:31 pm

H B Bearsays:
December 17, 2021 at 3:16 pm
The laws of Queensland override the laws of science stuff.

We already know Lord Waffleworth is not bound by the Laws of Physics.

IIRC, it was the laws of mathematics in his case.

Gab
Gab
December 17, 2021 3:31 pm

What was the emblem, Winston?

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 17, 2021 3:31 pm

But when the transfer payments are spent?

Weimar currency.

An interesting experiment has just commenced. Barbados ditched QE2 as head of state as was widely reported. What hasn’t been widely reported is they’ve also gone full woke progressive socialist.

Barbados primed for huge shake-up of tax system after breaking from Royal Family (14 Dec)

A Barbados official has suggested that the universal basic income could materialise as a “citizen’s dividend”. Avinash Persaud, the Prime Minister of Barbados’s Special Envoy on Investment and Financial Services, took to Facebook to hint at these plans which will build on the country’s pre-existing social infrastructure. Barbados’s current reverse tax credit is the country’s “first foray” into a universal basic income, according to Mr Persaud.

The reverse tax credit kicks in to add funds to a person’s salary if it does not reach a certain threshold.

He detailed: “Despite all the pressure from international agencies to ‘target’ we hold the line on universality. That’s why we restored free tertiary education for all.

Yay! Sit down money for everyone. And free education in wokery! Barbados soon will be like a utopia only better.

Bluey
Bluey
December 17, 2021 3:32 pm

H B Bearsays:
December 17, 2021 at 3:13 pm
So Chairman Dan is a social media size queen? Anyone surprised?

Not at all. He’s someone who’s always struck me as Vox Day’s gamma in the sociosexual hierarchy. Seeing Adem Somuyrek’s posts about him only reinforced it. The clown is all about how he’s a great alpha dog leader type, without any of the qualities an alpha actually brings. Would not surprise me if his wife is actually very unhappy.
Alphas do play the game, but generally they don’t need to blackmail or threaten people into following them. Everything I’ve read about Danny’s history is he’s a vile little game player who badly needs to get punched in the face, but it never happened.
Sadly its a case study on letting someone who should never be near any sort of power landing in that position. It’s all about making his image into what he fantasizes, but he will never be that. The only way for him to realise it is for his world to be utterly shattered, but that’s never happened.
So all of victoria cops it. Damn it.

Gab
Gab
December 17, 2021 3:33 pm

Hey Cassie, is it you that likes Patrick Coffin? If so, here’s his latest.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TemZ_GhOl9E&t=392s

P
P
December 17, 2021 3:34 pm

Lysander says:
December 17, 2021 at 11:42 am

McGowan Cabinet reshuffle today… Health Minister getting the boot…

Amber-Jade Sanderson, who has served as Environment Minister since March, was announced as Mr Cook’s replacement.

Before the March election, Ms Sanderson received praise from the Premier for her role in delivering Western Australia’s Voluntary Assisted Dying laws.

ABC News

Nelson_Kidd-Players
December 17, 2021 3:36 pm

If only party members were as capable at standing up to Dan as certain stairs.

Winston Smith
December 17, 2021 3:37 pm

HBBear:

Are there many people with strong convictions like this? I doubt that.

I expect there are more than the media would want you to believe.

Damn straight, O Pantsless One.

Winston Smith
December 17, 2021 3:39 pm

Gab:

What was the emblem, Winston?

The one in my current Gravatar, Gab.

Old Lefty
Old Lefty
December 17, 2021 3:39 pm

Jacinda in NZ can, as we all know, be woke as. But when she set up a child abuse royal commission, it did its job properly and investigated government institutions as well as the churches

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/on-the-inside/457987/will-abuse-in-care-inquiry-s-interim-report-spur-reformation-of-political-culture

– which, as we also know, the Gillard-McClellan leftist political sham here deliberately failed to do.

Winston Smith
December 17, 2021 3:42 pm

Gab – the bit outside of the 6 point star is the same colour as the T shirt.
It stands out more.

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 17, 2021 3:43 pm

It’s all about the patronage.

rosie
rosie
December 17, 2021 3:47 pm

I’m taking the horror! stories about Notre Dame with a shovel of salt.
The cathedral barely survived the French revolution and as noted the side altars are dark and dull with 19th century stuff.
I made a commitment now to regular visits when it is reopened to the public in 2024. 🙂
I have photos of the exterior renovations I took when I was there in February 2020.
I’d forgotten about the fire and had wandered down there hoping to attend mass.

johanna
johanna
December 17, 2021 3:47 pm

Has anyone noticed how many ‘stories’ at Their ABC are couched in terms of: here is a piece of what should be good news for the vast majority. But, not everyone agrees . Or, but ‘experts’ say there may be unforseen consequences. Or, indigenous groups/environmentalists/LGBT alphabet groups etc claim that there has not been enough consultation.

It seems that the post-modernist version of balanced reporting is to dredge up everyone who disagrees with anything, especially if they are members of the Progressive Privilege hierarchy, and air their complaints uncritically, at length and in detail.

I was about to comment on a report where, despite “overwhelming” opposition, something greenies didn’t like got through. However, it seems there is one remaining person there who knows the meaning of “overwhelming” and the report was changed before I posted.

Poor sod.

Winston Smith
December 17, 2021 3:48 pm

This is what a woke judiciary delivers.
“We Are In Different Times:” As Crime Continues to Surge, California Residents Resort to Leaving Their Cars Parked With the Trunk Open In Desperate Attempt To Deter Looters From Smashing The Windows

rosie
rosie
December 17, 2021 3:50 pm

Seems like the vaccines are doing a pretty good job of keeping older people out of hospital in the UK.

Thefrollickingmole
Thefrollickingmole
December 17, 2021 3:54 pm

Their ABCess with Benny Law and his fag hag.
“My favourite meme for the year was the ship stuck in the Suez with the little excavator digging on the bow… the ship labelled “ structural racism” and the little digger as “ my employers anti discrimination policies”

Radio off…

Salvatore, Understaffed & Overworked Martyr to Border Closure

Winston Smithsays: December 17, 2021 at 3:29 pm

Well, that was fun.
Went shopping with one of my T shirts on, emblem displayed on left breast.
Refused service in 3 pubs.
Allowed into IGA.
Allowed into Chemist.
Allowed into Butchers.

Good work Winston.
Keep it up. Every day.

Thefrollickingmole
Thefrollickingmole
December 17, 2021 3:58 pm

Rosie.
That would be the virus strain which has had one person die “ with” it?

Just phoning in the talking points now

Roger
Roger
December 17, 2021 3:59 pm

Omicron is on the loose, most likely out of any control so in 2022 we’ll have everyone who is going to get the coof, get it. People may start to wonder just what the last nearly two years has been about.

And them people may start to demand a reckoning of the authorities.

Roger
Roger
December 17, 2021 4:04 pm

Or, indigenous groups/environmentalists/LGBT alphabet groups etc claim that there has not been enough consultation.

Heard that refrain this morning as the ABC reported that “traditional owners” & environmentalists objected to the granting of fossil fuel exploration leases in QLD’s channel country which might lead to the use of fracking.

Not enough “consultation” – translates as “we didn’t get a right to veto the proposal.”

Funny how any notion of the common good disappears from view whenever certain minorities are claiming special privileges over the rest of us.

Farmer Gez
Farmer Gez
December 17, 2021 4:04 pm

Never underestimate the utter stupidity of the chattering classes Roger.

Indolent
Indolent
December 17, 2021 4:06 pm

Katie Hopkins wins the internet…

Where there’s laughter, there’s still hope.

Bruce of Newcastle
Bruce of Newcastle
December 17, 2021 4:06 pm

As Crime Continues to Surge, California Residents Resort to Leaving Their Cars Parked With the Trunk Open

Winston – I was expecting that to be a link to the Bee.
Lately satire is reality that hasn’t quite arrived yet.

Roger
Roger
December 17, 2021 4:09 pm

Imagine “training all your life for this moment”…and only getting the job by default…

The Stuart MacGill of public health.

Roger
Roger
December 17, 2021 4:10 pm

Never underestimate the utter stupidity of the chattering classes Roger.

Was that in regard to Omicron or fracking, Gez…or perhaps both! [laughing face]

Woolfe
Woolfe
December 17, 2021 4:17 pm

Rosie,
Out of hospital but into the mortuary.

All good.

JC
JC
December 17, 2021 4:26 pm

Miss Anthropist says:
December 17, 2021 at 1:32 am

JC,
World of difference between being depressed and depression.
That sort of macho posturing has probably led to any number of people necking themselves.
I’ve had to deal with people with depression. Why people would think I would make a peer support counsel or I don’t know but it is an illness mor real than the omnicron.
Sometimes dealing with them makes me want to neck them myself. But then that would make me a bad person. There is no justice.

Miss, I just saw the comment and didn’t have time to comment earlier. I’ve been busy and caught up with “GDPing”.

20% of Americans are on some form of mind altering drug. I’d assume that same number or very similar applies here too. There just aren’t that many people suffering depression and anxiety to such an extreme.
Also, the “science” behind psychiatry is quackery.

I really don’t have much sympathy for people that take their own lives because they’re down and therefore I don’t care. These days, it maybe considered a callous attitude, but again I just don’t give a shit. In fact those that snuff themselves are a nice example to others as I also believe in hard consequences.

Armadillo
Armadillo
December 17, 2021 4:26 pm

For those interested in history, I have never heard of this bloke.

Holbein…..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWGvPjNPo1U

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 17, 2021 4:27 pm

Seems like the vaccines are doing a pretty good job of keeping older people out of hospital in the UK

“This anti-bear spray is doing a good job.”
“Yep. Haven’t seen one all day.”

H B Bear
H B Bear
December 17, 2021 4:28 pm

Of course, I do not condone the use of anti-bear spray.

calli
calli
December 17, 2021 4:31 pm

Go, Katie, go! Perfect.

😀

Knuckle Dragger
Knuckle Dragger
December 17, 2021 4:35 pm

‘The Stuart MacGill of public health.’

Yeah baby.

rugbyskier
rugbyskier
December 17, 2021 4:38 pm

The Stuart MacGill of public health.

Does that mean he’s going to be abducted, stripped naked and whacked with a cricket bat?

JC
JC
December 17, 2021 4:42 pm

I saw a electioneering poster for this “independent” in Tim Wilson’s seat today. I wondered if it was a person with the same name coming out of the same loon asylum. It wasn’t as it’s actually her.. the one and only Zoe Daniel.

Former ABC journalist Zoe Daniel to run as an independent against Liberal MP Tim Wilson in Victoria

Lord Almighty.

Oh come on
Oh come on
December 17, 2021 4:45 pm

Seems as though Roger Cook has been moved out of Health to protect him. The OMG variant is coming to WA, and soon – don’t see how it can be kept out for long if it is as infectious as it currently seems. Guess who now isn’t going to cop the blame?

twostix
twostix
December 17, 2021 4:46 pm

Former ABC journalist Zoe Daniel to run as an independent against Liberal MP Tim Wilson in Victoria

The ABC Party fields another candidate.

twostix
twostix
December 17, 2021 4:47 pm

Reasonably confronting to stroll down the road in the Brisbane CBD and see signs up telling me that I’m banned from nearly every shop.

Weird moment.

twostix
twostix
December 17, 2021 4:50 pm

Well looky what we have here.

The Commonwealth is paying “home care providers” to lean on their staff to get vaccinated and to dob on the ones who aren’t.

The purpose of the Home Care Packages Program COVID-19 Vaccination Support Grant (Grant) is to provide additional support to Home Care Package (HCP) providers to increase COVID-19 vaccinations in the home care workforce and provide accurate reports on the vaccination status of the workforce to the Australian Government.

To be eligible to apply you must:

– be a corporation;

– be an approved HCP provider under Part 7A Division 2 Aged Care Quality and Safety Commission Act 2018;

– have at least one care recipient in your care as at 5 November 2021;

– commit to reporting staff vaccination status weekly through the My Aged Care portal.

If a provider is not already reporting weekly on the vaccination status of all staff at all outlets, providers will have one month from receiving the grant to start reporting weekly.

commit to reporting staff vaccination status weekly through the My Aged Care portal.

Estimated Grant Value (AUD):

From $5,000.00 to $48,000.00

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 17, 2021 4:51 pm

Another day has passed since “they will get back to me” on Colesworth selling illegal products.
https://www.wa.gov.au/system/files/2021-09/Prohibition-on-the-use-of-Rapid-Antigen-Testing-No2.pdf

I would just like to say for the record i did not shoot myself in the back of the head twice while throwing myself into that shark tank. Tomorrow.

JC
JC
December 17, 2021 4:52 pm

Wow, just wow.

Mistrial after jurors refuse to convict Dayonte Resiles, who murdered a 59-year-old woman after breaking into her home, based on race.

‘I don’t want to send a young Black [sic] male to jail for the rest of their life or have him get the death sentence’

https://twitter.com/lporiginalg/status/1471534405088792578

Listen to the report. He stabbed a 59 year old woman 20 plus times.

One female juror was threatened.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 17, 2021 4:56 pm

Too.
Stupid.
To
Survive.

Faulty Chinese aluminium adds to Navy boat delays, costing extra $44 million

The Royal Australian Navy expects its new Evolved Cape Class patrol boats could now be delayed by up to nine months, while an extra $44 million will need to be spent keeping its old fleet in the water, after poor-quality aluminium was imported from China.

Lets put that through the old-timeynator….

The Royal Navy expects its new dreadnought Battleships could now be delayed by up to nine months, while an extra 4 million Pounds will need to be spent keeping its old fleet in the water, after poor-quality Steel was imported from Imperial Germany.

cohenite
December 17, 2021 4:58 pm

Pauline’s latest classroom video (2 minutes); excellent:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3Ct9dg-0cc

cohenite
December 17, 2021 5:03 pm

Wow, just wow.

Yep; but it’s not the blacks who are doing this (although they rank with the orientals for the title as the worst racist group on this rock), it’s the white lefties.

JC
JC
December 17, 2021 5:03 pm

Cronkers

Are these cartoons takes on old silent movies you are so fond of? If so, how do the silent characters communicate?

JC
JC
December 17, 2021 5:05 pm

it’s the white lefties.

Really, so they’re destroying criminal justice. Just unreal.

thefrollickingmole
thefrollickingmole
December 17, 2021 5:05 pm

Ruled by mongoloids.

Indigenous leaders, conservationists* to repatriate Safety Beach whale shark carcass on country

The decision was made to euthanise the animal yesterday morning on Safety Beach, north of Coffs Harbour, because of its ailing condition and after multiple, failed attempts to release it back into the ocean.

Garby knowledge holder*, Tony Dootson, said he was disappointed to hear the initial plan had been to repatriate the animal’s heart on country** and then bury most of the carcass at the local rubbish tip.

“Just to throw our animal, as beautiful it is, straight to the tip. That’s not an option,” he said.

“We have other options, and that should have been looked at prior to thinking, even once about throwing it in the tip.”

He said burying the carcass back on country is an important cultural practice.***

“Garby Elders are the land of the sea people,” Mr Dooston said.

* B- Ark residents
** I know how to scam some money out of these silly buggers…
*** With chips and gravy?
**** Leaving deposits “on country” after eating something is not “burying the carcass”

Rockdoctor
Rockdoctor
December 17, 2021 5:06 pm

Wow, Dr Doofy is with anna pileofit’s kiss of death is lurching from one stuff up to the next. Mate in Cairns visiting has cut his stay short. Back down the coast tomorrow. Says he aint risking it. Accom apparently understanding as well as those he was seeing.

Queensland beautiful one day, bankrupt the next…

cohenite
December 17, 2021 5:07 pm

If so, how do the silent characters communicate?

Hip thrusting, lip smacking and eye rolls.

JC
JC
December 17, 2021 5:08 pm

LOl.

Never again let it be said North Korea is a hermit state.

WA closes last door to rest of the world

As PM says there’s no going back to lockdowns, Western Australia closes its border to Tasmania, formally cutting the state off to quarantine-free travel from everywhere in the world.

  1. Why so few beat police in or around one of Sydney’s busiest shopping centres?Why isn’t there a police ‘beat’ station…

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