I am going to upvote our Razey as an insurance policy.

We need to get the other glowies spying on him!

Open up your mouths, unfog your glasses, button up your plaid, brush your beard and smile, consoomers:

The next dose is always the booster.

Then, go and bash some fascists. (Heh).

Unvaccinated people have to suffer today. but it’s a material suffering. Sick with worry about tomorrow about income and what we can do, our kids future. But our long term health is not on our minds.

Vaccinated people will have to worry more tomorrow. When an individual thinks “I’m sick of this, I’m not taking anymore of this shit”, they’ll not only have to worry about all of the above, but they’ll soon have the entire apparatus telling them: Wait! If you stop taking the drug now you risk many complications, and we won’t treat you for the complications!

Now it’s likely that they’ll be lying, like a drug dealer does to their addicts: “going cold turkey will kill you man, you need to wean yourself off, here have a free one…”, but maybe not.

That’s a worry we won’t have and I’m happy about that.

Shit Towns of Australia

Loitering menacingly on the outskirts of Melbourne, Dandenong is in many ways a forgotten suburb, cut off from the city by shit public transport connections. Despite this, most Melburnians would argue that it’s still too close and would be quite happy for all roads leading in and out of ‘the Nong’ to be ripped up and replaced with some sort of wall or moat. If you must visit, we suggest you pass through like a dodgy vindaloo.

rickwsays:
December 13, 2021 at 9:39 am
Just got terminated due to vaccination status by Mobil Oil Australia.

Sorry to read this, but people of principle have suffered from the actions of evil, craven, cowardly kunts throughout written history. You won’t be the last.

As an aside, I left my ex-employer in similarly acrimonious circumstances, but for different principles. A great opportunity… plenty to do and learn when one doesn’t have to lick the arse of the stinking corporate gargoyles.

Respect.

the inverter was curtailing itself on high volts . Cant remember what the limit is 253V or something like that. You can set it in most inverters and you could I suppose, set it really high but that might mess with yr telly’s power supply.

How useless is that?

Either runaway power production or Sweet Diddly Squat.

That is no way to run a home power supply, let alone a grid.

No wonder there is a grid connection- Overcharging even a large and resilient battery for 8 hours would quickly lead to pyrotechnics. The only escape is into the nearest substation.

Still, I can now see a nice entry-level technical job in the future employment mix- The Solar-wallah.

Literally, a fellow who winds and unwinds covers on solar panels to keep supply regulated and batteries from going Boom! during the day.

Much more reliable power delivery than the inverter’s automation can provide. 🙂

Razey:

We need the boomers to start dying off en-mass to get our country back.

I’m not dead yet!

I thought JC held his own last night.

Half of JC’s posts yesterday looked like you had hacked his account so I can see where this comes from.

I reply later this afternoon as I’m going to be busy.

Looking forward to it.

Some actual evidence, and answers to the questions you were actually asked, would be great – 18 hours late is better than never.

Bruce O’Newk:

That’s cute because he knows just as well as ATAGI that even six months is too long, which is why last week they reduced the recommended period to 5 months. I suspect that will come down to 4 months, consistent with the Israel data. So it’s clear Falsi is trying to soften up the US population for endless booster Russian roulette 3 times per year.

I wonder if the Machiavellian swine who infest our Brahmin Class have worked out yet that when they reduce the timeframe for boosters, it just drops more people into the ‘unvaccinated’ category, and they just may get a little cranky about this?

Still constant with a Sept 2019 lab leak and competitors at Wuhan Military games brining it back.

China is about to host the Winter Olympics.

Best not to imagine…anything. Think happy thoughts instead.

They are weeding out the non-compliant.

The only way out of this absolute insanity against a virus with a 99% recovery rate is if the majority of those who comply refuse to comply with booster shots.

Or via an Act of God.

The only way out of this absolute insanity against a virus with a 99% recovery rate is if the majority of those who comply refuse to comply with booster shots.

Or via an Act of God.

Something like the President’s brain turning to mulch because of the jab.
That might wake people up.

Indeed.

JC, look at it this way. There is a species of animal, where the issue is whether the males are bigger than the females. We measure a female as ninety cm long and a male as 110 cm long. The average is 100 cm, the female is 10cm below the average and the male is 10 longer than the average. The question is, is the 20 cm difference a lot, or hardly anything? This is the core issue. Your diversion about the small fraction involved and what happened to the rest is irrelevant. The question is, is that 20cm difference a lot or not much at all?

The only way to answer it is to find out how much variation there is between different animals. You could try to estimate this using only the two numbers you have, which simply tells you that a 20 cm difference has happened. You might conclude from this that variation of about 20 cm might
happen all the time.

Now suppose you had good reason to believe that the standard deviation for both males and females was in fact only a centimetre. Then this information is enough to be virtually certain that males are bigger than females.

I hope you know what a standard deviation is, it’s hard to estimate the extent of your ignorance. But if you do, then you should surely see that knowledge of the standard deviation can make all the difference.

Since the distribution of the combined data and the two separated cases are all binomial, we do have information about the standard deviation. For a Bin(N,p) distribution, it’s the square root of N p (1-p). Since p is small, this is pretty much the square root of the mean. Using your combined data, this is the square root of the average of the two counts, or roughly ?350 which is about 18.7. The difference between the separate counts is over 100. This is over 5 sigma. In other words a lot.

I suspect your response will show a complete failure to understand my argument. Surprise me.

You’re talking about Eraquell pellets, right?

speaking of which, 2nd shipment of ivergoodness has made it through unmolested

I wonder if they told the new bloke that his job requirements included signing the orders for the transfer of the unvaxxed to the detention camps. His predecessor, who very quickly walked away from the job, was probably aware of the fate of Adolf Eichmann.

The article in the CM publishing statements by the previous CHO demeaning the gentleman who passed on taking the job was nothing short of disgraceful, that said, for any thinking person it did more harm to the reputation of our new Qld Governor than to that of the man whose motivations she so carelessly impuned for base political reasons.

I dare not make any comment about the stats argument.

Any way I look at it, if I do I’m toast. 😀

TGA can’t do anything until someone else does the actual work.

Their guys in Pfizer, Roche and Merck’s aren’t telling them what to do either.

And no Liberal party backroom $$$ involved so no guidance from them.

Whatever will the mickey mouse backwater TGA do without their ‘stakeholders’ guidance!?

Additionally, on a specific and qualitative side (by paraphrasing Dover’s excerpt ) there is a strong indication that the 409
participants who tested positive were likely positive before the trial.

Alas, no.

Indeed, the original Pfizer trial demonstrated a statistically significant 40% increase in ‘suspected COVID’, with 409 cases in the vaccination arm in the first week of the trial, compared with 287 in the placebo arm.[2] Other publications have omitted mention of the period immediately after vaccination.[3] [4] There is substantial anecdotal evidence of people who had tested negative prior to vaccination, becoming infected shortly afterwards, invariably attributed to exposure just before vaccination.[5] Others have raised concerns about this.[6]”

The sentence is saying that someone “invariably attributed” those cases to pre-vaxx exposure. If it’s not the researchers who “invariably attributed” it, who was it? That is, the sentence is saying that those people were excluded (by the researchers) from the vaxx/infected group, not that they were included. Maybe excluding them was correct, but even that wouldn’t in any way detract from dover’s point.

Unless of course BG, there is something in the collection of the data that makes it biased.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4340084/

US academic psychologists, who were asked to self-report ten different questionable research practices, in which high percentages were reported for some practices (e.g., 58% decided to collect more data after ‘peeking’ at the preliminary results) but much less for serious offenses (e.g., 1.7% for falsifying data) [19]; a survey of NIH-funded scientists in which 33% of respondents said they had engaged in one or more of a list of ‘top 10’ questionable behaviors ranging from approximately 16% for ‘changing the design, methodology or results of a study in response to pressure from the funding source’

– 58% decided to collect more data after ‘peeking’ at the preliminary results

– 16% for ‘changing the design, methodology or results of a study in response to pressure from the funding source’

“But, the Science says so!! “

RickW…sorry to hear …..you too, being sat on your arse due to global socialism.
As of today, me as well…..again.

Think of all the time we now have to fight these bastards.

Qld not folding and this new prick won’t find his tough guy stance does him any good.
We have been organising and uniting.
Government’s own website claims 80% of Qlder’s jabbed, yet go down the page a bit more and you find under 3 million doses given.
That’s only under one and a half million double jabbed.
Their figures……..
Our local Reps have locked their doors such is the abuse they are getting.
Cracks are appearing.
I’m not having a go at other states, because most of them are up here now and apparently there’s roughly 40 000 waiting for the border to openj to take up homes they have bought online, sight unseen, basically.
Just in time for the tyranny to be ratcheted up here…………………………you can’t escape tyranny when the whole Island is a prison.
But big holdouts include the miners of coal……….men……..and they aren’t taking this lying down.
Rallies have been huge in regional areas and people are getting very angry.
All I’m hoping is that QLD is the last place they are attempting to get under control and the majority of white, anglo saxon Australians are found in Qld. Not being racist, but they are the people who understand what freedom is and who the Anzacs were. Their parents, brothers and grandpas etc.
Along with the pushback in the USA, which they certainly do not have, thanks to decentralised power, and Europe about to explode before us as they attempt to force the jab, it’s obviously, and as of the last few days, going to get violent.
We are westerners, we are not the Chinese.
There will be a fight.
Billions against thousands……………………………….
Hold the line

US academic psychologists, who were asked to self-report ten different questionable research practices,

My opinion of academic psychologists is even lower than Dick Feynman’s.

It’ll be a decade before we see the real data out of Pfizer clinical trials that all this is based on.

When we finally do it’ll be the same as always: they withheld the bad stuff, the agencies took their word for it…

When the so-called “swine flu” H1N1 influenza emerged in 2009, the UK and Australian governments commissioned a rapid update of an existing Cochrane review of the drugs.

As the review team began its work, it received an unexpected criticism and challenge by Keiji Hayashi, a Japanese pediatrician. Hayashi pointed out that the key piece of evidence underpinning the previous Cochrane review’s conclusion–that Tamiflu reduced the risk of secondary complications such as pneumonia–was based on a manufacturer-authored, pooled analysis of 10 manufacturer-funded trials, 8 of which were unpublished.

In 2009 The UK and Australia – the TGA, approved Tamiflu as the pandemic drug of choice for Swineflu based on the very best data available.

That was it : a “manufacturer-authored, pooled analysis of 10 manufacturer-funded trials, 8 of which were unpublished.”

The results of which, as it turned out five years of hard work later, were lies.

John Treanor, lead author of a pivotal Tamiflu treatment trial, told The BMJ: “I did not perform an independent analysis of the primary data, which was not required or requested by JAMA at the time of submission, and I do not have access to the primary data, which I also never requested

The TGA does not have access to the primary data for the Covid vaccines either.

The TGA does not have access to the primary data for the Covid vaccines either.

These big pharma vaccine companies have been given carte blanche in the TGA system while other pharma, vet etc companies have to go through the onerous 7+ year process of providing data and results from all clinical trial stages.

Many governments have indemnified themselves and these big pharma vax companies. Some other countries have not been so gracious which has resulted in Big Pharma not selling their vax snake oil in those countries. Quick everyone, get your booster shots.

Casey was excited to get her first dose of Pfizer. She has been in a wheelchair since…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UB_5pL74EoA

Exact same hospital found all over the world. Amazing. The same hospital is shown in news ”reports” from numerous countries including Australia. Must be a miracle. Share before it’s taken down

struthsays:
December 13, 2021 at 3:01 pm
RickW…sorry to hear …..you too, being sat on your arse due to global socialism.
As of today, me as well…..again.

Think of all the time we now have to fight these bastards.

Qld not folding and this new prick won’t find his tough guy stance does him any good.
We have been organising and uniting.
Government’s own website claims 80% of Qlder’s jabbed, yet go down the page a bit more and you find

Hey mate, also pretty sure they count using 2016 census population. So you can knock off another 5% easy.

Sound familiar?

In October 2009, the US National Institutes of Health infectious diseases chief, Anthony Fauci, appeared on YouTube to reassure Americans about the safety of the “swine flu” vaccine. “The track record for serious adverse events is very good. It’s very, very, very rare that you ever see anything that’s associated with the vaccine that’s a serious event,”1 he said.

Four months earlier, the World Health Organization had declared H1N1 influenza a pandemic, and by October 2009 the new vaccines were being rolled out across the world. A similar story was playing out in the UK, with prominent organisations, including the Department of Health, British Medical Association, and Royal Colleges of General Practitioners, working hard to convince a reluctant NHS workforce to get vaccinated.2 “We fully support the swine flu vaccination programme … The vaccine has been thoroughly tested,” they declared in a joint statement.3

Except, it hadn’t. Anticipating a severe influenza pandemic, governments around the world had made various logistical and legal arrangements to shorten the time between recognition of a pandemic virus and the production of a vaccine and administration of that vaccine in the population. In Europe, one element of those plans was an agreement to grant licences to pandemic vaccines based on data from pre-pandemic “mock-up” vaccines produced using a different virus (H5N1 influenza). Another element, adopted by countries such as Canada, the US, UK, France, and Germany, was to provide vaccine manufacturers indemnity from liability for wrongdoing, thereby reducing the risk of a lawsuit stemming from vaccine related injury.45

Fast forward four years:

Feb 27, 2013 (CIDRAP News) – Scientists have found the first evidence of a link between the 2009 pandemic flu vaccine Pandemrix and an increased risk of narcolepsy in English children, echoing previous findings in several other European countries.

Oops!

Um………………………….. The western world is under attack and we are at war.

Yes. And so far, we’re losing because ppl haven’t seen it’s a war because guns haven’t been going off.

dover0beachsays:
December 13, 2021 at 3:12 pm
On top of this Dover’s own excerpt says that there’s a strong belief the 409 had covid prior to the vax.

Except that that’s not what it says at all. See my comment at 2.55pm.

JC’s conspiracy theory is a very strange one.
Presumably he’s not suggesting that Pfizer’s researchers were deliberately understating the infections in the control group to make Pfizer’s drug look worse.
He does seem to be claiming (by a misreading of dover’ extract) that Pfizer’s researchers were overstating – or at least maximising the figures for – infections in the test group, thus making Pfizer’s drug look worse.
That seems unlikely, but the key point is that (subject to the possibility of some macro-stuffup of the type Arky refers to above*) unless he’s saying that the Pfizer researchers were treating the control group differently to the test group in a way that made the drug look worse (which would be real ABC fact-checker level fantasy), given the number of standard deviations of difference Arky and Dr B calculated, you’d have to work hard on your wrongology to see it making any material difference to the outcome.
* If the argument is that “I don’t like the conclusion so I’m going to assume that it was a stuffup even though dover produced another paper with even more stark results”, well, the World Self-Beclownment Hall of Fame is beckoning.

40,000 people waiting to get into QLD to buy homes they haven’t seen but saw online.

‘basically.’

Uh huh. Well, the borders opened this morning so this should pan out as prophecied, right? Aaaaaany day now.

‘the majority of white, anglo saxon Australians are found in Qld.’ Followed by the standard whitey Anzac borrowed schtick.

Tell you what St. Ruth, I’d rather listen to some Czechs, Hungarians and/or Poles who left their shit pits, emigrated and worked their rings off if I wanted to hear about what freedom actually is, rather than an entire tribe of Chinese-built truck driving pub singer tour guides who self-imported into what turned out to be the most oppressive State in the country.

White Anglo Saxon males. Jesus wept. Are wives required to be Anglo as well?

St. Ruth? St. Ruth?

Hello?

Nothing more.

Hmm, so not quite what I thought either. But still zero support for JC’s wrongology.

Alan Jones is launching a new streaming service tonight at 8pm via his new website, https://alanjones.com.au/, called Alan Jones Direct to the People.

Reviews welcome here.

Doctors say a common symptom reported by people who are infected by the Omicron variant is a “scratchy” throat.

People who test positive most commonly report cold-like symptoms like a headache, runny nose, sore throat and sneezing, according to the ZOE Covid system study app.

devastating, lockdown now!

wot bogey said.

I don’t see why we can’t have commies under the bed and stupid politicians.

Why does it have to be one or the other?

Vicki:

Made husband change station as I said I refuse to listen to someone who actually would like to see me dead. He is more sanguine about these things, but it enrages me.

You are right to be enraged, Vicki. “Othering ” is stage 5* on the ten stage trip to the Re-education Camps.
* I plucked that figure from my rectum because I’d forgotten the stages that someone put up here a week or so ago.

aaahh, couldn’t help myself.

particularly as by definition coups d’état are done and dusted in a day or so.

So all the evil weevils have to do is use salami tactics and you guarantee that you won’t notice.

You haven’t thought this through.

‘And many are being bought online by interstaters.’

40,000. Righto. We’ll see.

I’m not boo-hooing anything except empty rhetoric stolen and/or cut and pasted from SovCit sites and Bosi offcuts.

REPORT THIS AD.

I will ruminate on 40,000 boomers all moving to Queensland at once in the next fortnight whilst watching tasty pieces on their way to and from the beach.

In “The Tide is Turning News,”
Here.

A coup d’état (/?ku?de??t??/ ( listen); French for “blow of state”), usually shortened to coup, (also known as an overthrow) is a seizure and removal of a government and its powers. Typically, it is an illegal, unconstitutional seizure of power by a political faction, military, or a dictator.

KD it seems to upset you greatly that QLD held out the longest and tens of thousands of Victorians and Sydneysiders are clawing over each other to get here and move into their houses here that they paid insane amounts of money, sight unseen during the long dark winter because of that.

Now they may be wrong to do that, but it’s happening.

The formation of the “National Cabinet” last year, from which we have been governed by a secret cabal of the PM and state premiers making rules and agreements without us, was absolutely a coup.

Vile and contemptible. Again, the ratio is delightful.

Refuseniks is a Russian derogatory term for Jews.
Quite appropriate a POS like here would use such language.

The formation of the “National Cabinet” last year, from which we have been governed by a secret cabal of the PM and state premiers making rules and agreements without us, was absolutely a coup.

Yep. Preceded by and followed by what I might reasonably call microaggressions.

I can see why ppl find Struth irritating; I don’t, but his style gets up some noses. But on the central issue, how our country is being stolen before our eyes, he’s spot on.

I was pretty sure you would miss the point, JC. And you did. You are sloppy in your thinking and you don’t read carefully. I guess it’s who you are.

Neil…….. I before E except after C or in Neil

JCsays:
December 13, 2021 at 4:09 pm

That whole comment would have to be one of the stupidest things ever posted on the internet, but particularly: We’re not telling you the relative size of the remaining 42,955 people in the trial.

Are you really suggesting that the researchers didn’t follow up all the members of both groups, or that they’re hiding the data on those remaining 42,955? Do you really think that them saying that 409 and 287 were infected in the period in question doesn’t mean that they’re saying that they’d found the rest non-infected during that period?

Plan C for Omicron? They’re soon going to run out of letters from two whole alphabets at this rate.

we’ll have to start using Han glyphs

Knuckle Draggersays:
December 13, 2021 at 4:15 pm
I will ruminate on 40,000 boomers all moving to Queensland at once in the next fortnight whilst watching tasty pieces on their way to and from the beach.

I live in flesh city. It is delightful at this time of year. As for those 40,000 boomers moving here, they can FOAD.

Yes JC, but do you deny telling people to stop being little girls and to go and get the jab?

I tell people not to get the jab, but I can’t force them not to. But I have a duty to say out loud that I believe they are incredibly dangerous, in fact lethal…as they have proved to be.
You don’t let your mates drive home from the pub pissed and say, well, that’s his business.
I have a moral obligation to try to stop it happening.
That being said, the jab only kills those that take it and once my opposition to taking it has been registered, it then is completely up to those warned and I’d never stop them.
I believe in free choice, but moral responsibility.
That then brings into question how moral is submitting to tyranny, when doing so will empower the tyrants to discriminate against other people, and may have them imprisoned or killed.
I can’t take the jab while so many others are holding out because I help the tyrants hurt them.
These are the points…….quite simple….that I have been making for nearly two years.
I and twostix have said this is nothing to do with a virus and to do with bringing in a social credit scheme of digital tyranny the likes of which will be horrific.
Oh how they scoffed………
Submitting to this does have moral responsibility questions to ask yourself before complying.
How does your complying affect others?

Incoherent Rumbler:

That would require untampered, raw data. Verifiable.

A pipe dream, IR.
That is the one thing you aren’t allowed to have.
You just might figure out the truth.

I know your pain. My shins have a long memory. Probably longer than my nanna wriggler doomed brain.