Guest Post: Cassie of Sydney – The wokewashing of woman/ women/ girl/ female

We now live in a society in which a war is being waged against the female of the sexes.  Before I continue, let me state the following facts:  

  1. I use the word “sex” deliberately, I loathe the word “gender”.    
  2. There are only two sexes, male and female. There aren’t fifty-two sexes or genders nor are there seventy-two sexes or genders.    
  3. Whilst there is a condition called “intersex”, it is extremely rare.  Intersex people are born with any of several sex characteristics including chromosome patterns, gonads, or genitals that don’t fit typical notions of male or female bodies.  The number of babies born with ambiguous genitalia ranges from 0.02% to 0.05%.  
  4. We are a sexually dimorphic mammal.   
  5. It is impossible to change your birth sex.  
  6. Nobody is “born in the wrong body”.  
  7.  Transwomen are not women, they’re transsexuals.  
  8. Transmen are not men, they’re transsexuals.  
  9. There is no such thing as a “female penis” or a “male vagina”.   
  10. Transsexuals such as Laurel Hubbard should not be allowed to compete against women in sport.    

Good, so now that I’ve laid down some inconvenient facts, you might ask just who is conducting this war against the female of the species?  Well, it’s being waged by trans ideology and trans ideologues. Its aim is to erase the very concept of Woman/Women/Girl/Female.  And this sinister ideology is being aided and abetted by the progressive left.  It’s both perplexing and amusing to see the progressive left, who are usually always eager to show off their feminist credentials and condemn misogyny, give succour to such an ugly, offensive, ludicrous, false and misogynistic ideology.  A few months ago, at UK Labour’s annual conference, Keir Starmer, who is the current UK Labour opposition leader, was asked a question by the BBC’s Andrew Marr.  It’s a simple question with a simple answer….

Andrew Marr:  “Is it transphobic to say only women have a cervix?”

Keir Starmer: “It shouldn’t be said. It is not right.”

So, there we have it, the exchange is below for all to see.  Once upon a time such an exchange would have belonged in a Monty Python skit and we would all be on the floor laughing but this verbal sludge emanated from the mouth of a man who wants to be the UK’s next prime minister and what isn’t funny is that Mr Starmer was being deadly serious.  So, perhaps I can assist the very jelly back Mr Starmer. It not only needs to be said Mr Starmer, it also needs to be shouted Mr Starmer, it needs to be screamed about Mr Starmer because it is a FACT that only women have a cervix.  It is entirely right Mr Starmer, it is science Mr Starmer, it is biology Mr Starmer and it is the truth Mr Starmer.  

 The uber progressive Starmer, in his desire to be woke and pander to a sinister fringe, actively wokewashes the reality that is woman/women/girl/female. We shouldn’t be surprised by this, it’s all part of the progressive trans zeitgeist, to lecture us about “chest-feeders”, about “individuals who menstruate”, about “people who give birth” and other such nonsense.  Except the truth is that it isn’t “people”, it is women who breastfeed, it is women who menstruate, and it is women who give birth.   

The fact that the progressive left entertains this lunacy shows just how much they’ve lost the plot and how far down the rabbit hole they’ve burrowed to appease sinister queer gender ideology. The left say they care about violence against women but they lie, much of what constitutes trans activism is violent, trans activists routinely threaten biological women (and men) on social media with rape, murder, stabbing, stalking, intimidation, silencing and cancellation all because many rightly question gender lunacy and self-identification and that it isn’t wise to allow men into female only spaces, especially biological males exposing their erect penises in front of women and girls….as what happened recently at Wi Spa in Los Angeles (something the MSM didn’t want to touch…worth remembering that it took Andy Ngo to discover that the Wi Spa pervert was a serial sex offender).    

This sinister ideology lies, gaslights and fools many. We are being badgered into changing our language and to distort our sense of reality, all to appease a minority.  As an adult human female, I refuse to kowtow to transgender nonsense and it’s time we all stood up and said no to the lies propagated by activists and creepy autogynephiliac men who insist they’re women and who are given legitimacy by a disgraceful MSM, social media sewers and craven progressives like Starmer and others, including many here in Australia.   

Anyone who peddles this wokewashing is maligning, betraying and endangering girls and women.  It is the ultimate misogyny.  

I’ll finish with a comment tweeted by J K Rowling last week …. 

War is Peace.
Freedom is Slavery.
Ignorance is Strength.
The Penised Individual Who Raped You Is a Woman. 

I think Rowling has said it best.

 

117 thoughts on “Guest Post: Cassie of Sydney – The wokewashing of woman/ women/ girl/ female”

  1. Great to see you standing up so strongly, Cass, on your feet and no back foot about it! 🙂
    I totally agree of course, said something similar but in far less detail in a comment on Quadrant recently.
    Coming in here to offer you my public and very best moral support for your thread essays.


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  2. One of the things that pisses me off is that men are now allowed to compete in sports against women, basically only having to say that they are a women. Honestly, every female sports person who is put into the position of having to compete against a man should simply stay put at the starting line and let the man compete against himself. If this happened often enough, the message might start permeating into the soft brains of sports officials. What have women got to lose?

    The other thing that is worse, and I won’t even go there, are men in women’s/girl’s change rooms/toilets.

    Another Sodom and Gomorrah cleansing is needed.


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  3. Good stuff, Cassie. We’ve given up way to much ground to perverts already, simply by “tolerating” them.

    Now they not only want our approval, they want our children and grandchildren too. Like all sorts of disorders, it runs a course of ever diminishing returns so must be ramped up.

    Incidentally, these are the people now lauded by the “polite society” we hear so much about. I would rather be part of “impolite society” and have zero to do with them.


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  4. Well said Cassie. The Laurel Hubbard’s of the world are as far from humanitarian people as possible, they are women- hating, in fact self- hating dregs, and belong in mental institutions.


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  5. It’s your own fault women.
    You. wanted to be equal.
    You’re not.
    Women are not men. You don’t, for example, belong alongside infantry soldiers.
    The abolition of female sport is a minor side effect of feminism.
    The real effect will be the end of the West.
    Well done youse.
    Women should go back to being feminine and motherly.
    Not whatever the hell this abomination is.


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  6. Good post, Cassie- it’s always strong form to state basic facts.
    Our bunch of school friends are tackling the intellectual challenge at the mo, we were discussing this last night. When our generation were at school in the 90’s, anorexia was just coming to common consciousness. It could be described as a dangerous condition where a kid’s erroneous mental impression of their body- as being obese- does not match with the objective facts- of being normal- and then the mind makes dangerous changes to the body to try to reconcile the two, by ceasing food. The remedy is to firmly change the mind to respect the body.
    Why don’t we collectively do the same and treat “transgender” minds- and “transgenderism” can only ever be in the mind, as Cassie has stated for us- the same as “anorexic” minds? Inevitably, sustaining the “transgender” mind currently wrecks the body, and mounting evidence of depression, psychosis and suicide shows that it does not save the mind either.
    (There might be a third way, which is the traditional Transvestite second life- maybe more later)
    The western cultural response might be lagging behind the assault here- I think it will take a few brave souls to respectfully stand up to the transgender bulldozer, on the street and the schoolyard more than the forum, on the behalf of kids. Withdraw your girls from sport if there’s a boy playing. Withdraw your girls from school if there are boys in the toilets. Prime your kids to the simple sacredness of men and women, and ready them to stand up for the reality when it is assaulted at school, which is where the battlefront is, kids being seperate from their families and in the hands of revisionists. Don’t hush the chat (like we did last night) when your kids waltz by earshot.
    A friend- an ex-girlfriend actually, ex state swimmer and maybe an excessively testosteroney chick- told me quite bolshy the other day, poolside, that her ten-y-o boy had transitioned and was now living as a girl (or vice versa, I was a bit rattled I admit). She was taking him around the local state primary schools as an show-and-tell exhibit. She kinda fronted up to me and said words to the effect of “So, Wally, you’d have something to say about that wouldn’t you?”
    “How is your marriage?” I said.


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  7. And equally Arky, you men are not women. You are not your daughter’s mother, and she can never be your entire life. You have your own life, allow her to have hers also.


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  8. The people who believe all this gender bending should get out more, get out and observe the animal kingdom where there are males and females or vice versa, and any oddity is either stillborn or doesn’t last long and that’s why we don’t have any five legged cows or furless Siberian bandicoots. Nature knows best.
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  9. With respect to J.K. Rowling, Helen Demidenko said it pretty well as well, if not in a more brutal fashion. Something about men not being willing too suck the lady cock.


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  10. Cassie, nice work.
    Needs to said more often
    Needs to be said by women especially.

    Youse do know that for the most part, that its radicalised sheilas that are promoting this farce?


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  11. Superb article Cassie ???

    Sounds like you’re on the mend.

    For the life of me I simply don’t understand why more women (and men) aren’t speaking out (or shouting) about this insanity.

    Maybe it’s the cancelling of JK Rowling but if enough people with balls actually stood up and denounced this perversion then we might get our social commentary a bit more centered. But alas no.

    When we will this end ? I don’t know but I truly fear for our future in the next 20 years.


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  12. We now live in a society in which a war is being waged against the female of the sexes.

    At the same time the political left and its miserable feminist ladies auxiliary are waging war against men — the “white supremacists” who gave us Western civilisation.

    That means a war is being waged against both men AND Women — by people who self-evidently hate the entire human race.

    And there aren’t enough people like Cassie calling a spade a spade.

    We used to rely on journalists for that. But 90% of them have become feminised anti-civilisationists — partisan gas-lighters who see lying to the public as a noble aim.


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  13. WolfmanOz (just existing in Melb. now) says

    For the life of me I simply don’t understand why more women (and men) aren’t speaking out (or shouting) about this insanity.

    The reason is that the women in politics who should be speaking out, have willingly subjugated themselves to their masters.
    Look at the ladies in safe seats and tell me they don’t have a “higher” loyalty than their electorates.
    Tell me that they fought tooth and nails for their nominations.
    No, they sold out. And you can pick th e one who diodn’t sell out.
    They are either out, or getting out, or getting pushed out, especially in victoria.


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  14. The progressives have waged their war on men, now it’s the womens turn. It’s amazing how effortless these freaks wreak their destruction by using idiots like Stramer and the Karen class to do all their work for them.
    Wally Dali’s ex reminds me of a comment at the old cat that has always stuck with me. I think it was KD who said that a kid wanted a Playstation, not his dick cut off. It’s often all about mum being special.


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  15. Transgenderism and the belief in a multiplicity of genders is sympotmatic of the bigger issue, which is that the post-Christian West has unmoored itself and drifted away from the Judeo-Christian tradition.

    This is presently nowhere more apparent than in our anthropology in the philosophical* sense – what is the nature and destiny of humankind?

    In doing so many (most?) reject the notion that we live in a created & ordered cosmos in which our identity is given to us by our creator. Thus we are free – so these people believe -to create our own identities.

    This is nonsense of the highest order, but it is going to wreak a lot of havoc in Western societies as we continue our seemingly inevitable slide into neo-paganism.

    * Lest I be accused of getting too high falutin’, everybody has a philosophy, even if they don’t acknowledge it and can’t enunciate it. Most people, particularly in our misedcucated age, take up their philosophy from the zeitgeist.


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  16. When the Marxist battle against men was won what did you think would happen?

    ..
    Defeat the men to get at the women and children. An ancient and ignoble tradition.
    They did it to us without even having to risk war.
    In the olden days you had to send the legions into Carthage before you could enjoy the spoils, risk defeat and political death.
    Not now.
    Now you just send in the academics and the twitteratti.


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  17. Excellent article Cassie. Great comments from Elizabeth Beare, Bemused and Arky (and others). One comment on what Arky said; I never thought it right that women should try to do the same as men, for example, in the armed forces. I was in the British Army for a while (at a time when women who married or became pregnant were automatically retired). I never had any wish whatsoever to learn to fire any firearm nor did I ever had any wish to stumble around Salisbury Plain with a heavy backpack in the pouring rain, fog, snow, whatever. The men were welcome to it! My husband remembers sitting under sopping wet Christmas trees on exercise in Germany years ago; such fun.
    A friend of ours resigned from the ADF in protest at women being forced to carry full battlepacks; he was horrified at the back injuries they were suffering. Men and women are DIFFERENT from each other (hooray!) and their bodies have differing types of strengths.


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  18. “Equal but not interchangeable might be a better way to say it.”

    Just so.
    I also think Jordan Peterson nails it when he talks about “temperament” – about 10% of women have a male temperament, and 10% of men have a female temperament. That doesn’t mean they are “in the wrong body”, and it certainly isn’t a binary thing, it’s a range – every man has some feminine traits and every woman has some masculine traits. But even a (wo)man with a highly (masculine)feminine temperament is still a (wo)man.
    Most of my best XX mates would rather have a beer and a chat with the boys than have a chardy and a natter with the girls. But the majority of those are happily married with kids and none would dream of “transitioning”.


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  19. Honestly, every female sports person who is put into the position of having to compete against a man should simply stay put at the starting line and let the man compete against himself.

    A brilliant idea, bemused.
    The optics would be great, the MSM couldn’t ignore it, and it should shame the individual male competitors into exiting the stage.


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  20. Cassie,

    so very well said, being the 68 year old father of 3 adult sons and 1 adult daughter I am saddened that they are slowly coming under the spell of this complete and utter bullshit.

    Nothing that I say or do alters their woke ideology.

    Having read Gad Saad’s, “The Parasitic Mind. How Infectious Ideas Are Killing Common Sense”.
    I am even more determined to continue pushing the `envelope of hard truth with my children, also those with whom I associate (people 0f the 40 – 70 age group) as they too are falling head long into the trap.

    Gab Saad covers, and blows these issues along with many other woke-feminist falsehoods into oblivion.

    A damn good read and supports in positive ways how to shatter their illusions of grandeur.


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  21. I’ll finish with a comment tweeted by J K Rowling last week ….

    War is Peace.
    Freedom is Slavery.
    Ignorance is Strength.
    The Penised Individual Who Raped You Is a Woman.

    Brendan O’Neill:

    I see JK Rowling is shooting her mouth off again. The beloved author turned bête noire of the woke is once again scandalising Twitter and causing offence. What’s she done this time? She’s been mean about rapists. Is there no end to this woman’s callousness?

    That really is the story. Rowling tweeted some critical comments about Police Scotland’s genuinely insane policy of recording rapes as being committed by a woman if the bloke who carried out the rape says he’s a woman. Yes, cops north of the border will use the word woman to refer to an individual who used brute violence to force his penis into a woman. Her penis, sorry. It’s transphobic now to misgender men who rape women.

    Former Scottish justice secretary Kenny MacAskill asked Police Scotland how it would record sexual assaults once Scotland’s new gender-ID laws come into force. These laws will allow people to legally identify as any gender they wish, without requiring a medical diagnosis of gender dysphoria or proof that they have lived as their preferred gender for at least two years. Assistant chief constable Gary Ritchie replied that there will be many situations in which a rapist might be logged as a woman, including ‘where a person, born male but who identifies as a female and does not have a full gender-recognition certificate[,] then commits rape’.

    So there you have it. The actual police, the people responsible for recording crime, will acquiesce to a male rapist’s desire to be referred to as female. The consequences of this deranged, hyper-relativist policy will be dire. Crime stats will become a joke, with numerous rapes being falsely attributed to women. Female prisons could be swarmed by male rapists. And complainants in rape cases could face the prospect of having to use female pronouns in court when addressing the man who brutalised them. How long before judges start reprimanding complainants for incorrect pronoun use? ‘She forced her penis into you – please respect the pronouns, Miss.’

    Not surprisingly, Ms Rowling, being rational and not a misogynistic prick, finds the prospect of rapes committed by men being laid at the feet of womankind rather horrifying…….

    Boiled down, these Rowling haters seem to be saying: ‘Won’t somebody think of the rapists?!’ Those poor assaulters of women, having to face the horror of being referred to as ‘he’. How demeaning. This, incredibly, is what’s being suggested here…….

    https://www.spiked-online.com/2021/12/14/wont-somebody-think-of-the-rapists/


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  22. a sense of humour is being lost as well these days between all these fine distinctions some people insist on

    I do miss jokes .. like this

    An astronaut is back from space, where he had somehow visited another inhabited planet. It’s just the joke setup, don’t worry about details. He is being interviewed by a TV entertainer and is asked about the differences between us and them.
    The astronaut says “well, we’re basically the same as us except for one thing, the woman’s breasts are on their backs.”
    “wow” says the interviewer, “that is strange”
    “yes”, the astronaut says, “but the dancing is great”

    (Bob Newhart joke).


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  23. MatrixTransformsays:
    December 20, 2021 at 11:19 am
    Brilliant!
    this is up zerohedge today …

    Finding Strength Along A Post-COVID Fury Road

    thanks Matrix – interesting stuff..

    (regarding the MGTOW movement)

    We have a toxic femininity problem. Retreating into masculine safe spaces looks attractive, a kind of ‘Going Galt’ until women get less crazy. But it’s the wrong response. Because those same women who say the most hateful things about men, are really pleading for us to step up and be protectors..



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  24. I don’t understand why sports administrators don’t reclassify the sports as either XX (female) or XY (male). As chromosomal makeup is an immutable characteristic such a reclassification would go a long way towards eliminating the unfair competition which is now occurring in sports
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  25. Arky says:
    December 20, 2021 at 10:34 am

    Defeat the men to get at the women and children. An ancient and ignoble tradition.
    They did it to us without even having to risk war.
    In the olden days you had to send the legions into Carthage before you could enjoy the spoils, risk defeat and political death.
    Not now.
    Now you just send in the academics and the twitteratti.

    Only because good times have created stupid, corrupted minds and abject cowardice.
    To what? You may ask?

    To a group of evil, deluded, physical and intellectual weaklings, who would be easily crushed and vanquished.. if only there were real men among us (no, I don’t mean just the Cat).

    General cowardice and love of comfort will destroy the West, as it did to Rome.

    You can bank on it.


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  26. For those who did miss it, I posted this, below, from AdamD’s Cat, here on the old OT.

    It delivers short, sharp punches to the UN/Global Govt pushers of the child abusing obscenities.
    It’s well worth a read –

    “kaysee says:
    December 19, 2021 at 6:26 pm

    What I’ve Learned Rescuing My Daughter From Her Transgender Fantasy
    https://www.dailysignal.com/2021/12/13/what-ive-learned-rescuing-my-daughter-from-her-transgender-fantasy/

    My daughter’s story is no longer novel. Stories like it are occurring in your state, your town, and perhaps even on your street. Gender dysphoria—the incongruence between the mind and the body—moves stealthily and quickly to invade girls and boys alike.

    But this isn’t a cautionary tale. It’s a warning.


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  27. jupes says:
    December 20, 2021 at 11:51 am
    Excellent Cassie. Thank you.

    This topic needs much more exposure.

    Sadly, the topic has had decades of exposure.

    More often than not, sickos simply attack the posters with twisted ‘jokes’ about ‘pizza’ and other, organised mockeries designed & pushed to silence those who raise it.

    I’d long ago shared first hand knowledge of such groomers being well placed in schools, Universities and other places where vulnerable women & children are found, but of course it was never well received in open forums where ‘respected academics’ didn’t want to get on the wrong side of the UN/et al funded & supported groomers.

    Just this afternoon the subject came up when one of my get mentioned all the paedophile groomers in Gamer/Anime/Furry communities and how much power they were given.

    Yeah, no surprise, GamerGate was NOT about ‘women’ in the industry but rather, about getting the males with a healthy tendency towards natural ‘Dadism’ out of the way of the filthy groomers doing their twisting of children.


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  28. What I’ve Learned Rescuing My Daughter From Her Transgender Fantasy

    That’s one tough and loving mum right there.
    Reminds me of the meme/cartoon of the American Eagle “striding” along the beach with a baleful glint in its eye heading for errant kids.


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  29. “The fact that the progressive left entertains this lunacy shows just how much they’ve lost the plot and how far down the rabbit hole they’ve burrowed to appease sinister queer gender ideology.”

    No, this IS the plot – all part of the determination of the supporters of cultural marxism to destroy Western Society. They have already had a pretty good go at destroying the family, getting women to actually support the killing of babies and the old and infirm. Eugenics is back. Now the ultimate irony is the deleting of the very women who fought so hard for these policies.
    As they say, be careful what you wish for.


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  30. Roger’s dead right.

    The more lunatic the “woke performance” they can force upon you, the more you are degraded, the more you and society become unmoored from their foundations.


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  31. Exact in every particular.
    As an adult I can cope with, and, mostly, brush aside this putrid nonsense but I feel very angry about how our innocents are being abused with this nonsense.
    I’ve said before what a betrayal of trust it is to tell small children their eyes are lying and the birds and the bees are wrong.


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  32. Where did you all think gay marriage would end up?

    Did you think that would be the end?

    You deliberately allow evil perverts to prosper in your society then those same perverts are going to take it as far as they possible can.

    Gay marriage wasn’t about fags being able to stroll down the aisle and leave each other their stuff in their wills.

    It was about getting at your kids.


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  33. Adamsays:
    December 20, 2021 at 2:01 pm
    Where did you all think gay marriage would end up?

    It was about getting at your kids.

    I think it was more about destroying the concept of marriage altogether.

    (but maybe that’s your point… destroy marriage on the way to the ultimate goal).


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  34. Well, it is an opinion I have expressed many times before but, what the hey…

    When a ‘trans’ person says they feel or know that they are really a member of the opposite sex, I wonder how? What is it they are recognising?

    A guy knows what it is to feels like to be a guy. He grows up with other guys who have much in common with him. Same hormones, same anatomy, learning to ways to express impulses – through sports, exploring the boundaries of his domain, etc – being a guy ‘fits’ him.

    So, when a guy says he feels he is really a woman inside, what is it he is really seeing? Womanhood for him is something observed on women rather than experienced. An image he has formed from magazines, movies, maybe women he has met. He does not experience it as women do, and cannot be saying ‘I am a woman’ with the same meaning as women do.

    They cannot really be responding to an inner womanly nature they cannot know, but they can be running away from what they do know.

    I would expect that in most cases the problems are not about sex or gender at all, but if they throw their energy into a solution they can envisage rather than remain anxious about one they can’t, then so be it.

    It can’t be a mistake that it is only when the trans-fad took off that so manty people discovered that that was the source of their troubles. I think it was more fun when they thought they were alien abductees, or were witches.

    And they do seem to identify with ‘types’ of women. They want to be in dresses with make up. They should be content to experience a woman being a woman on her day off, baggy-tracky dacks, t-shirt, hair disheveled, skin breathing freely without applied pigments, watching a chick-flick and drinking wine at home by herself.

    As Cassie says there are conditions where sex is not as simple as a plug and a power point. But those cases are more than mere words.


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  35. Since Monty Python seems to come to mind to so many here, I recall in their Ethel the Frog skit a psychiatrist explains that ‘A murder is just an extrovert suicide’.

    Of course that does not sound far fetched any more either. We have heard people arguing that one nasty person or another kills out of self hatred.


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  36. “So, when a guy says he feels he is really a woman inside, what is it he is really seeing? Womanhood for him is something observed on women rather than experienced. An image he has formed from magazines, movies, maybe women he has met. He does not experience it as women do, and cannot be saying ‘I am a woman’ with the same meaning as women do.”

    Quite so ML. Helen Joyce, in her superb book “Trans, When Ideology Meets Reality” talks about this….as do others. My own experience of being a woman begins with being born with female genitalia….a vagina…..which made me female. I was not born with a penis. I, along with everyone, went through a tortuous puberty when one’s hormones come alive, breasts began to grow and I still clearly remember the day when I first menstruated, I was fourteen and we were on my father’s boat in the middle of the Swan River Perth. We had to turn back…needless to say my father was unimpressed.

    Many trans activists insist they know what it’s like to be a woman…because they feel like a woman. But they don’t know what it’s like to be a woman. They don’t know what female puberty is, what childbirth is, what menopause is….with its hot flushes and memory lapses. The trans activists feelings are based on societal fetishes which are highly misogynistic, they’re are highly stylised and you can see by the way they dress as “women” that their ideas come from very sexualised magazines, movies….and a lot of porn. It’s all based on sick and very twisted perversions and fetishes. All of this makes a mockery of women. It demeans women. It invalidates women. It cancels women.


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  37. I don’t think women should be blamed for perverted men any more than men blamed for perverted women. It’s too easy to blame what passes these days for “Feminism” for society’s ills.

    Equality before the law, as a human being, was the goal of the first feminists in much the same way as freedom for all was for abolitionists. The fact that feminism these days is creepy and perverse doesn’t mean it caused men to become weirdos. Degeneration and moral decay at all levels of the maelstrom of “woke” seems to be in lockstep, not some sort of cause and effect, one leading to another.


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  38. All the “trans” types I ever see look like drag queens. The fellas want long blonde tresses and stilettos, tight dresses and big boobs.

    They are a parody of womanhood, as counterfeit as a flea market LV handbag. And it shows. Oddly, while the outside is as fake as, the crackpots want you to believe that the inside is the genuine article, down to the missing reproductive organs themselves. If they still have their dingle dangles, they tuck them away and pretend they aren’t there.

    That’s enough to signal that they have extreme mental problems and need a good shrink.


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  39. “I’ve laid down some inconvenient facts,”

    No inconvenient facts in that list, just facts. To disagree one would have to be a science denier and we know how much denying science is frowned upon.


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  40. So, when a guy says he feels he is really a woman inside, what is it he is really seeing?

    as someone smarter than me has pointed out – by destroying womanhood, what is it exactly they feel like, or want to be ?

    (As calli says,) a female parody is all that is left.


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  41. Equality before the law, as a human being, was the goal of the first feminists…

    Many may have thought that was the goal but they were being unwittingly co-opted into a radical movement whose ultimate goal, as Betty Friedan admitted way back in 1963, was theological, i.e. to usurp the Father God of the Judeao-Christian tradition. As I wrote above, “gender” confusion is mere feature, albeit an extremely significant and revealing one, of that larger malaise in our culture. It is so significant because if the you the Genesis creation text you’ll see that unlike the other creatures, which are delineated into kinds, man is described as “male and female”. That reveals to us how crucial sex is to our human identity and why blurring the boundaries is a front on attack on the traditional viuew and the people who continue to ascribe to it.


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  42. I agree muchly with the women as I perceive them.
    I think back in the day my smart alec response was only ever going to be their perception of what a woman was, and being a man, bound to be 100% wrong. 🙂
    Going from bald, beer bellied bloke to Fletcher Jones skirts, pantyhose and pearls, priceless.


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  43. What you thought you were doing to improve women’s employment and legal rights and what one radical hag wanted to do are two different things, Roger.

    I understand perfectly where you are coming from, and I don’t want to risk derailing Cassie’s thread with a feminism discussion. I just find sheeting some men’s perverted proclivities back to the “women’s movement” such as it is a bit simplistic. There’s a bit too much blame the women stuff here at times.

    Creeps have to own their creepiness.


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  44. That was a comment on your earlier post, calli, not your second one, with which I agree.

    And I maintain that feminism was a theological – or perhaps anti-theological would be better – movement, no matter what its foot soldiers thought they signed up for. As I stated, male -female relations and their ordering are right there “in the beginning” and feminism was aimed at subverting that.


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  45. And yet the transgender forces only have power because feminists let them.
    The feminist movement has made massive inroads into what it calls the patriarchy – or 50% of the population – yet is being cancelled by 0.01%.
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  46. feminism was a theological – or perhaps anti-theological would be better – movement, no matter what its foot soldiers thought they signed up for

    The left have been brilliant at having a destructive motivation dressed up as a simple meme for the masses to follow.
    “Love is love”
    “It’s my body, my choice”
    “We only have one planet”
    “Get vaxxed to save Granny”
    all immediately spring to mind.


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  47. And yet the transgender forces only have power because feminists let them.

    Why?

    Are the men all sitting around with their hands in their pockets and whistling Dixie? And that goes for women who don’t subscribe to the latest “Feminist” diktats too.

    Trouble is we are all comfortable and supine. They only get away with it because we let them.


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  48. At the risk of angering Rex Anger, I have a slightly different perspective on this issue.

    I agree whole-heartedly with Cassie’s words and am rejoicing in the fact that such a powerful outburst must mean she’s feeling better.

    I suffered body dysmorphia for almost two decades. It is a horrible feeling, one where you feel the mind is constantly at war with the body. There is no harmony and definitely no peace.

    I expect that gender dysphoria feels similar. And this is where my deepest anger is directed. Not at the people suffering what is quite clearly mental anguish. But those who use the hurt and pain of others to advertise their own virtue, who see trans individuals and their so-called support of them as a way to gain status. There is not an ounce of compassion or kindness in such a view. It is using a very much hurting person as a means to an end.

    When this topic comes up at work, I put the following scenario before people:

    If I believed I was Marie Antoinette, demanded to be addressed as La Reine, spoken to only en francais (how does one do the little cedilla?) and fed only cake, would you indulge me or understand I was mentally ill and in need of help?


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  49. And it all leads to the Bleeding Obvious, but the Author of the following seems not to understand

    The Dangerous Rise Of Men Who Won’t Date “Woke” Women

    So it is fitting that white man of the moment, Laurence Fox – who appeared on the BBC’s Question Time programme and told a BAME audience member that Meghan Markle has not been on the receiving end of racism before subsequently appearing on the cover of The Sunday Times to tell the world that he does not “date woke women”

    Did you hear that at the back, ladies? Laurence Fox – who you perhaps only knew as Billie Piper’s ex-husband because you’ve never seen Lewis (what?) – does not date “woke” women who he believes are being taught that they are “victims”, irrespective of whether they are right or no.

    The reactionary influence of these ideas doesn’t stop at dating, though. As the campaign group Hope Not Hate reported last year, a hostility towards feminism is feeding directly into far-right movements online. They found that a third of young British people today believe that feminism is marginalising or demonising men and warned that these beliefs were a “slip road” to other far-right ideas.

    Make no mistake, the far right is already capitalising on Fox’s words, gassing him up and turning him into an icon. He has added to their backlash and given it oxygen. Every time he is invited onto a TV or radio show to talk about it, that oxygen will cause the backlash to burn hotter and faster, irrespective of whether we’re watching or not. It’s important not to trivialise this anti-woke, anti-women backlash. In the end, it’s only by paying attention to it that we can understand it and do something about it.


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  50. There’s no such thing as say, Andro-normative Studies or, Hetro-Jurisprudence

    There are such things a Degree in Arts majoring in Eco-Feminism … I know one.

    There are whole schools where feminist theory, queer theory, Intersectionality, post-post-modernity,post-colonial has intruded to the point that unless you subscribe to the gibber then you wont get yr qualification.

    Its up law, medicine, and politics with a capital-P

    You sheilas did this … own it


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  51. “Are the men all sitting around with their hands in their pockets and whistling Dixie?”
    Calli, so you want the men to, once again as we have throughout history, do your fighting for you? Not very 21st century, is it?
    And, don’t forget, it isn’t men’s changing rooms being invaded by women or male weightlifters being beaten by female weightlifters.
    Transgender extremists are cancelling women and other women are not, on the whole, defending those women. Far too many feminists are having a bet each way or just staying silent, to their everlasting shame.


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  52. Laurence Fox sounds like a sensible man. He doesn’t like a certain type of woman and won’t go out with her. How tewwibly out there and edgey. Fancy being discriminating in the people you might invest in emotionally.

    Meanwhile, we have women, many…many women, who won’t date a man who earns less than she does, or is a smidgen too short, or is a bit sparse on top. Forget what the poor buggers think. They’d rather have babies to a turkey baster.

    He’s now even more dishy in my eyes, even if he is a bit of a chinless wonder. Because smart.


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  53. The Dangerous Rise Of Men Who Won’t Date “Woke” Women

    The author must have a pretty low opinion of their audience (or their own argument) to have to pound their readers repeatedly with code words.

    These men are dangerous! If they don’t seem dangerous yet don’t worry, it is coming – it is a rising danger! Far-right! Reactionary! (Or, as Rik from The Young Ones would have it, ‘weactionawy’.)

    Fox said he did not date woke women. Well, wokedom is a set of beliefs. Fox disagrees with the victim mentality. It may be more that he disagrees with a weaponised victimhood.

    The reaction of the author is to label Fox, to attached him to some imagined weactionawy movement that threatens us all with a Fourth Reich.

    That is quality j’ism right there.


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  54. Just realised you were a new commenter, RogerW. I generally don’t challenge newbies but welcome them. So “welcome” it is.

    Men and women fight in their own ways. I reckon women should take on the dopey third wave feminists, at least in the vanguard. Trouble is these loudmouths get spots in the legislature and other key positions on the votes of both men and women, so there’s that.

    Another subversive way is to raise tough girls who don’t buy into the victim mentality and discerning boys who marry a non-feminist type of girl – that way it becomes generational (you have to be careful with daughters in law though and make sure they believe the ideas you put in their heads are their own).

    Having a father in the house who really is the head of the household is another way to model a well structured family. Which means that tough old bats like me have to defer to them (not easy).

    Took us a while to get here. Probably will take us the same to get out.


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  55. The left have been brilliant at having a destructive motivation dressed up as a simple meme for the masses to follow.
    “Love is love”
    “It’s my body, my choice”
    “We only have one planet”
    “Get vaxxed to save Granny”

    The same pro-abortion, “it’s my body, my choice” extremely hypocritical left which wants to enforce Covid vaccines on everyone, thereby violating its own mantra and principles.


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  56. Such simple truths reminds me of Currer Bell’s Preface to the second edition of Jane Eyre in 1847:

    Conventionality is not morality. Self-righteousness is not religion. To attack the first is not to assail the last. To pluck the mask from the face of the Pharisee, is not to lift an impious hand to the Crown of Thorns.
    These things and deeds are diametrically opposed: they are as distinct as is vice from virtue. Men too often confound them: they should not be confounded: appearance should not be mistaken for truth; narrow human doctrines, that only tend to elate and magnify a few, should not be substituted for the world-redeeming creed of Christ. There is—I repeat it—a difference; and it is a good, and not a bad action to mark broadly and clearly the line of separation between them.



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  57. Meanwhile, we have women, many…many women, who won’t date a man who e is a smidgen too short,

    Daughter-in-law helping at Ski Race – Son and Elder Daughter stopped by mid-race and after they left the guys said “oh were those 2 of your kids” … ehm no the left one was my husband

    PS – Elder Daughter also taller than her Dad, as will soon be his youngest daughter.


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  58. Great stuff Cassie, the day I see a male transgender give birth with my own eyes is the day I will change my vocabulary. I breast fed both my boys, not to mention 23hrs Labour with the firstborn. I am woman, I am a proponent of the live and let live, but they go too far


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  59. The underlying cause is Momism, the Cult of Motherhood.
    This only goes back 100 or so years, before that no man in his right mind would want to be a woman.
    Philip Wylie introduced the term in his [now forgotten] best seller
    Generation Of Vipers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_of_Vipers
    While it probably was Planned, like everything else that afflicts us today, the roots go back to the Wokeism of the Progressive Era.


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  60. Society is reaping what has been deeply sown.

    Women have been crowbarred into almost every male space imaginable, cheered on by malcontents and halfwits. So what’s the problem when malcontents and halfwits crowbar the deranged into female spaces?

    I have some joy at this outcome.
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  61. Great thread and congratulations Cassie.
    I feel women were treated poorly in much of the times gone by.
    I feel women are, in general, seen as an equal part of society to men more so this century then previous.

    This whole thread has provoked some quite deep thoughts, not only for me, but I am certain for many others.

    Gotta say though, conservative males are copping it as well. Please don’t take offence at that, it is after all, a fact.

    Will we, men and women of the right, win?
    Pat


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  62. Honestly, every female sports person who is put into the position of having to compete against a man should simply stay put at the starting line and let the man compete against himself.

    When a woman competes against a cock in a frock, she validates his perversion.
    End of story.
    Remain at the starting block and start a movement.
    (Watch the idiots who take a knee go ballistic about it.)


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  63. Mother Lode:

    He does not experience it as women do, and cannot be saying ‘I am a woman’ with the same meaning as women do.

    He can only observe women. He cannot innately know what a woman is.
    To him, it’s about the shoes and handbags, the makeup, the tampons.
    This is why they are ludicrous.


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  64. Lots to comment on, but will restrain myself: Trans whatever is another distraction squirrel; it’s working. Repeated small concessions over a period, accumulate & collectively become radical change.

    Luzu, thanks for sharing.
    Great to see Deadman back.


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  65. “Meanwhile, we have women, many…many women, who won’t date a man who earns less than she does, or is a smidgen too short, or is a bit sparse on top. Forget what the poor buggers think. They’d rather have babies to a turkey baster.”

    I don’t have a reference to hand, however there was a woman who was concerned about her brother not getting any dates etc, so she suggested to try a dating app. He did, said was no good. She insisted he was doing something wrong and “took over” his account for a while, certain that she could get some replies. Nope. Seems that, in general, guys answer lots of ads of all types, while women want the top 10% of guys – who get all the responses.

    Not saying this is cast in stone, but as a generality it is certainly true – unless you are a guy the girls all swoon over, you shouldn’t expect any responses in a dating app. If you are a women, then it is likely that unless you are in the bottom 10% of those that make the guys swoon, you’ll at least some replies.

    Not a complaint, just an observation.


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  66. Yeah but no one pushes the trans shit more than young women. The bulk of the trans community are young females. The ones actually pushing policy change and getting people cancelled are females.

    Literally the only men I have heard supporting trans stuff are trans wo(men) and some woke gay guys.

    And I really just can’t help but laugh at women seriously acknowledging 2 spirit whateverthefuckism.


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  67. @Arky:

    “Now you just send in the academics and the twitteratti.”

    And who is walking behind these vermin, endlessly reminding them:

    “Remember, thou art MORTAL”.


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  68. Cassie, the great Thomas Wictor nailed it when he said that it was about men proving that they’re better than women AT BEING WOMEN.

    He said it was the ultimate dismissal of women by men, a complete invalidation of the female of the species by the ultimate misogynists.

    I can’t fault his logic, or his assertion.


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  69. unless you are a guy the girls all swoon over, you shouldn’t expect any responses in a dating app.

    Which is fucking hilarious considering how fat most young women are these days.


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